< 1338854435 614984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the sequel to 2Pac? < 1338854931 873443 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1338854943 454054 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>---<++<--<++<--<++<--<(+)*20>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*15([-{[-]}])%30}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*25[+]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338854946 340254 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 43.4 < 1338854949 746579 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1338854977 259392 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is now officially my highest scoring program < 1338854987 830560 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thanks myndzi for the 3pass idea) < 1338855044 160719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it work? < 1338855061 29791 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 3 pass < 1338855061 421548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What I meant by "so" is, why should I know who Eugene Kirpichov is? < 1338855085 191929 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus it switches the polarity of its clear 3 cells after the first one < 1338855096 50679 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus a huge offset for later decoys < 1338855113 576662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I asked about jkff, not Eugene Kirpichov. < 1338855130 536008 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note to self: ask ais if this is the first program that increases its offset size the more decoys it encounters) < 1338855166 542651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What? < 1338855171 420777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: @ask < 1338855207 921056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 has anyone before written a program that uses larger offsets on longer tapes? < 1338855208 143767 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338855233 53093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...It might help to give more context than that. < 1338855293 178100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 has anyone before quintopia written a program that uses larger offsets on longer tapes? < 1338855293 389670 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338855297 114655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :DONE < 1338855429 33714 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1338855445 145553 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>---<++<--<++<--<++<--<(+)*20>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*15([-{[-]}])%30}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*40[+]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338855447 926965 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 45.1 < 1338855459 778921 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self: huger offsets = better :P < 1338855508 479635 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it now beats all of Deewiant's programs < 1338855536 918997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust hi (->->->->->++[+>->]-)*100000 < 1338855539 939892 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for shachaf_hi: 0.0 < 1338855545 569854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WIN < 1338855563 653160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone gotten a score of 0.0 before? < 1338855565 189603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I THINK NOT < 1338855611 262048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338855696 15112 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust shachafislame < < 1338855698 975888 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_shachafislame: 0.0 < 1338855711 49162 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>---<++<--<++<--<++<--<(+)*20>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*15([-{[-]}])%30}])%6>)*3((-)*3([+{(+)*25[-]}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*40[+]}])%6>)*15](+)*2)*21 < 1338855713 903115 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 41.4 < 1338855734 325951 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>---<++<--<++<--<++<--<(+)*20>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*15([-{[-]}])%30}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*40[+]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338855737 295254 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 45.1 < 1338855739 738935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust (>+)*40 < 1338855740 201398 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1338855748 680671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust oh:'( (>+)*40< < 1338855751 624221 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for shachaf_oh___: 0.0 < 1338855756 638948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know the rules. < 1338855772 757336 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1338855774 954851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust < 1338855776 607456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust_strategies < 1338855784 622825 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not like there isnt a BUTTLOAD OF DOCUMENTATION :P < 1338855831 902695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know how to read. :-( < 1338855842 791563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you think what I'm saying is a reponse to something you're saying, you're wrong. < 1338855876 404749 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least you know how to write < 1338855912 459493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR DO I:'( < 1338855943 854122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell david_werecat Sorry, EgoBot actually uses gearlance.c, not chainlance.c (in the same repository; http://git.zem.fi/chainlance/blob/HEAD:/gearlance.c). < 1338855944 61923 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338856233 261759 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>---<++<--<++<--<++<--<(+)*20>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*25[-]}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*40[+]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338856236 61536 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 48.5 < 1338856239 828438 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1338856242 863075 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'D < 1338856246 18565 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::''D < 1338856288 217778 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i made it to beat skyscraper and it doesn't even do that anymore :P < 1338856346 713438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :"D < 1338856375 432093 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'''D < 1338856380 769855 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::`D < 1338856382 159434 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,D < 1338856388 415545 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::;D < 1338856448 292467 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>---<++<--<++<--<++<--<(+)*20>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8>(-)*8>(+)*8(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*25[-][+]}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*40[+][-]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338856451 61087 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 49.1 < 1338856457 96985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :5D < 1338856459 211065 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it beats skyscraper again ;P < 1338856901 608037 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338856940 942412 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1338858528 367896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How do I ascend NetHack? < 1338858540 941605 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack sounds boring to ascend < 1338858547 609154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sacrifice the Amulet of Yendor to Anhur. < 1338858553 713022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In the Astral Plane.) < 1338858554 424308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED < 1338858555 957470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Which one is Anhur? < 1338858564 496271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Chaotic. < 1338858574 33252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Which is the one dwarf valkyries start with? < 1338858576 128868 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for which class < 1338858576 288561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want to be chaotic if you can manage it. < 1338858582 860946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I was planning to. < 1338858584 375194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, I don't know? < 1338858587 553761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being good is boring. < 1338858589 887029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not chaotic. < 1338858595 680473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes it is? I think. < 1338858597 39119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Val and Sam can't be chaotic. :-( < 1338858601 827853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? Oh. < 1338858607 252189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have to do it sometime in your life. < 1338858613 800578 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to < 1338858621 807604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: YOU HAVE TO < 1338858621 966603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Why not? < 1338858627 671755 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds so boring < 1338858635 468454 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't want to bother < 1338858646 10433 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so many stupid things i'd have to do < 1338858674 740129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: But have you *seen* the Astral Plane? < 1338858679 68527 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338858687 189369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks fun! < 1338858696 56754 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like a lot of clearing messages < 1338858712 204746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Astral Plane: MAXIMUM FUN < 1338858714 39587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use an interface that has multiple lines of messages. < 1338858735 426022 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the astral plane actually fun < 1338858742 780753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is the Astral Plane actually fun? < 1338858751 837810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: It *looks* fun, and ais523 says it's the best level of NetHack. < 1338858753 648323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So surely it must be fun. < 1338858761 603669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, I've died there. < 1338858771 819237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means there's risk! Which makes it fun. < 1338858777 577193 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't trust ais' roguelike opinions; he likes identification < 1338858788 584972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Well, he clarified that a bit. < 1338858799 57479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He hates Crawl's identification system.) < 1338858807 826291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(NetHack's identification system is admittedly much less degenerate.) < 1338858808 688517 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he likes nethack's, no? < 1338858809 417656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :VELOX NEB < 1338858818 800678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I still don't like it. But it's much better than Crawl's.) < 1338858826 535134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(FWIW, IIRC dtsund thinks the same.) < 1338858838 442045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you know: If you #name-no a scroll labeled "VELOX NEB" "VELOX NEB", you have a 100% chance of writing it with a magic marker? < 1338858845 544890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, writing the thing it identifies to, if you try. < 1338858851 65167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you don't identify it. < 1338858854 195679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What. < 1338858867 64249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bug. < 1338858872 872414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask ais523 -- Interhack supports it, after all. < 1338858876 923097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I didn't understand what you said. < 1338858883 307252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, ais523 never developed Interhack AFAIK. < 1338858886 556888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338858889 177268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You know about #name-no? < 1338858892 432915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338858893 520898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that? < 1338858900 663713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know about #name? < 1338858907 695721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It names objects and stuff. < 1338858927 63644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. If you say "no", it names a type of object, instead of a specific one. < 1338858936 655005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can name "VELOX NEB" "maybe scare monster??" < 1338858943 488754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1338858944 909941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like { or \ or whatever it is in Crawl. < 1338858949 957545 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338858955 876122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... think you mean inscription. < 1338858956 961307 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl doesn't have naming a type of object < 1338858961 837219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is neither { nor \. < 1338858963 48779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338858969 86753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, Crawl isn't the point here. < 1338858970 326806 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ is inscription but < 1338858974 702718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is it? < 1338858977 776695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use ii. < 1338858980 489429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm a ``n00b''. < 1338858984 623510 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :inscription doesn't apply to a whole type of item < 1338858988 261124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1338858994 247099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION , knower of more Crawl keybindings than elliott < 1338859015 262558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you #name-no a scroll labeled "VELOX NEB" "VELOX NEB", you'd think it wouldn't do anything useful, right? < 1338859022 591126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Anyway, how do I get past the point where I suicide before finding the entrance to the Mines or Sokoban because I'm bored as hell? < 1338859028 257952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And right. < 1338859034 234818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Go on before answering that.) < 1338859038 395889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You could do the mines first. < 1338859045 723347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: So let's say VELOX NEB is a scroll of wishing. < 1338859063 36400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if you attempt to write "a scroll of wishing" with a magic marker, you'll always succeed! < 1338859076 883127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it thinks you "know" wishing, because you #named-no a scroll of wishing earlier! < 1338859084 388235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In short: nethack=stupid < 1338859093 973436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's dumb architecture. < 1338859102 647067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, how the hell can I do Mines before finding the entrance to Mines? < 1338859112 418395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mines are always on level 2/3/4. < 1338859115 613557 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wizard mode < 1338859118 449245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is earlier than Sokoban. < 1338859118 608856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. < 1338859119 773849 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*15<(+)*15<(-)*20<(+)*40>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>>>>>(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*25[-][+]}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*40[+][-]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338859121 62312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get bored before then. < 1338859122 552248 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 55.3 < 1338859125 946380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said "or", not "and". < 1338859126 446373 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1338859135 268442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: whoa < 1338859143 210108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I find early Crawl more boring than early NetHack. < 1338859144 850260 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :3rd place < 1338859151 346676 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :early crawl is awful too < 1338859160 168984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Anyway, you could play pacifist. That's not boring, right? < 1338859165 358882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:19 elliott: I find early Crawl more boring than early NetHack. < 1338859166 268834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1338859169 529492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you know what early Crawl has? < 1338859170 970553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o and tab. < 1338859177 289180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :True! < 1338859182 448179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But even with o I find it more boring. < 1338859184 979739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know NetHack 4 has autoexplore. NetHack 4 is not yet playable.) < 1338859187 726811 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that sounds like a bug that ought to be fixed. < 1338859190 819554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because it lasts for so much longer. < 1338859191 998884 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is totally playable < 1338859193 371223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Of course it's a bug. < 1338859195 395801 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you hit o and tab fast enough < 1338859197 815770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Tell ais523 about it! < 1338859202 477046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It is not, I tried it a while ago; it's insufficiently polished. < 1338859202 637412 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'll fix it < 1338859206 124785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was talking to ais523 at the time.) < 1338859206 502960 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh? < 1338859207 79475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I play DESu. :-( < 1338859212 759112 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't play desu wow < 1338859213 359127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And OK, but it's a boringness I can stand. < 1338859215 712759 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooooooooow < 1338859217 883886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't play Su if you don't want to be bored. < 1338859218 782887 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott:where in logs? < 1338859224 56208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: /query < 1338859225 143406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Good idea. < 1338859226 120038 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :desu is just asking to be bored < 1338859230 279316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate DESu. < 1338859236 766309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I don't play Crawl! < 1338859238 922815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By "stand", I mean "phase out".) < 1338859247 134391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Play MDFi! < 1338859262 38101 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah, shame < 1338859265 533330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The joke is that that's physically impossible.) < 1338859272 911860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's MDFi? < 1338859288 902507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mountain Dwarf Fighter, the most popular combo. The joke is that Mountain Dwarves don't exist any more. < 1338859295 433585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now everyone plays MiFi instead! < 1338859305 256355 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DGCK < 1338859307 740711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Millipede Fighter? < 1338859308 446810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Most of the complaints were trivial interface stuff ais523 said he'd fix. < 1338859320 928788 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: joke's it's Dg < 1338859330 638555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: See ??syllogism[2]. < 1338859333 161286 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338859335 114791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Minotaur Fighter. < 1338859351 359955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: But it also feels weird in a way NetHack doesn't that I can't quite put my finger on. < 1338859356 70830 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i think there's still some DgBe in sequell too < 1338859356 541552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack feels weird too, after so much Crawl. < 1338859360 889160 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: DGBe I mean < 1338859368 362165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:22 2. rob the Ducker (L2 DGBe), killed by the fiery rage of Trog on D:1 on 2008-10-05, with 96 points after 840 turns and 0:03:31. < 1338859370 41455 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: they were back from when Dg was DG < 1338859375 590510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Trog doesn't like Demigods. < 1338859377 411425 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's normal for roguelikes < 1338859385 374711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:23 1. test the Chopper (L1 DGBe), worshipper of Trog, mangled by an orc (a +0,+0 orcish club) on D:1 on 2008-05-27, with 63 points after 386 turns and 0:07:26. < 1338859386 858772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eventful. < 1338859391 102441 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*15<(+)*15<(-)*20<(+)*40>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>>>>>(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*40[-][+]}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*40[+][-]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338859393 910213 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 56.7 < 1338859398 255067 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: going from one to another does feel weird < 1338859403 304800 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does DGBe exist? < 1338859407 125607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Anyway, I'd rather play NetHack than NetHack 4, because I have to win NetHack sometime in my life, but I don't have to win NetHack 4 sometime in my life. < 1338859410 272339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: < 1338859417 184590 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I go back to ADOM after NetHAck, I invariably am insufficiently afraid of doors < 1338859417 540882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:23 2. [cv=0.5-a] rob the Ducker (L2 DGBe), killed by the fiery rage of Trog on D:1 on 2008-10-05, with 96 points after 840 turns and 0:03:31. < 1338859428 810251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What if I watch you play NetHack? < 1338859439 231242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ??syllogism[2] exists for the same reason, presumably. < 1338859440 257273 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also been thoroughly convinced I don't want to play adom < 1338859444 366578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sure. Will you offer HELPFUL ADVICE? < 1338859446 369292 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the "reason"? < 1338859451 830823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: [cv=0.5-a] < 1338859452 184776 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old version? < 1338859454 216580 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1338859455 265733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a" < 1338859461 998736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trunk is the reason. < 1338859464 533308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: HELPFUL ADVICE: Scrolls of mail actually take a turn to read in NetHack! < 1338859482 535970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:24 One game for * (dg god!=): DGBe < 1338859488 260001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I mean on IRC. < 1338859507 361667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Anyway, what's the best server in Europe? < 1338859510 807867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Europe? < 1338859511 72454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAO lags a bit too much for me. < 1338859515 471473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real programmers play on NAO. < 1338859521 759969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAO has the best patches! < 1338859526 862366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I played ADOM for five minutes. I don't want to play ADOM any more. < 1338859527 343378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like that one patch that... < 1338859528 855717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: NAO lags for me. < 1338859537 883945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That just means you have to think more about your moves. < 1338859541 703066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means you die less. < 1338859550 897087 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes you think you have to ascend nethack, anyway < 1338859553 385198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Tell shachaf why lag matters even in turn-based games. < 1338859556 240074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (NAO lagged for me too when I was on your continent.) < 1338859563 78270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By your continent I mean Asia.) < 1338859568 18239 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lag matters even in turn-based games. < 1338859573 351769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asia is indeed my continent. < 1338859578 76793 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eurasia < 1338859584 150465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eur continent. < 1338859592 804176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Anyway, OK, I'll try NAO. < 1338859598 412399 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are Europe and Asia considered different continents? < 1338859600 517272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What char should I play? < 1338859609 589024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Europe isn't a continent. It's just a peninsula. < 1338859611 81243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Because "continent" doesn't mean anything. < 1338859617 845982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That depends. You want it to be easy, right? < 1338859621 944814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia#Overview < 1338859627 8609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not necessarily. < 1338859631 922244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I want to have fun, preferably early on. < 1338859638 98893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'd also like something not impossible to ascend for a beginner. < 1338859645 852408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Anyway, play either Val/Sam for a meleer or Wiz for a magic user. < 1338859646 971779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess. < 1338859652 75639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. I want to play with the intention of winning, but not be bored out of my skull. < 1338859656 600377 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 'twas my first roguelike < 1338859657 139960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I played Val. It was boring. < 1338859661 131816 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's still bloody hard < 1338859663 19546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all boring. < 1338859669 106420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the beginning. < 1338859671 775143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's not helpful. :( < 1338859678 827495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When do they get non-boring? < 1338859679 695945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Midgame? < 1338859684 268752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less. < 1338859692 765244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I might play a wizard. < 1338859697 744899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizards can be chaotic! < 1338859697 904703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But I've never cast a single spell in NetHack. < 1338859699 922299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is good. < 1338859701 669404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How squishy are wizards? < 1338859704 247722 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I Learned that "antiquity" is an actual historical period and not just a vague reference to the past < 1338859705 101104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early on, I mean. < 1338859716 129505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: In the late game wizards can get by pretty well with melee. < 1338859722 888893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early game. < 1338859725 905929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338859728 922283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they're not *that* bad. < 1338859736 143078 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: reference? < 1338859738 838344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, fine. < 1338859738 997811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They become significantly better if you sacrifice for Magicbane? < 1338859743 430639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is easy. < 1338859745 925535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Can NAO be accessed via ssh? < 1338859749 231968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1338859762 393947 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia#Overview linked to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_antiquity < 1338859787 705456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How do I access NAO? < 1338859805 977008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet nethack.alt.org < 1338859807 718881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1338859809 695918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf < 1338859813 215501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SECRETPASSWORDGOESHERE < 1338859817 232157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1338859818 199910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1338859818 542761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1338859818 831623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1338859819 264293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1338859827 511716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how I do it. < 1338859839 184848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, there is already an "elliott". < 1338859845 747603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it you < 1338859853 685989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Well, he doesn't have my password. < 1338859856 743396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Wait, haven't I seen you play NetHack before? < 1338859856 902783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's on the high scores list. < 1338859861 671582 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see I tried logging on as squarelos and there wasn't a squarelos but then I tried monqy and it worked < 1338859862 483142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...Possibly? < 1338859869 699493 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure elliott's played before < 1338859870 414612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was on termcast or something. < 1338859872 101446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Oh, are you playing too? < 1338859873 188997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a party? < 1338859874 127933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I have. < 1338859877 90108 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1338859877 942910 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People were helping elliott play < 1338859881 220481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: By the way, can I skip Sokoban? < 1338859882 185191 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm just here to send you mail < 1338859883 679396 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He angered a shopkeeper I think < 1338859887 646324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alt.org/nethack/plr.php?player=ehird < 1338859890 504826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No, I angered the Kops. < 1338859890 918012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yep. < 1338859895 414838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Angering a shopkeeper was part of the escape plan. < 1338859898 493768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: There's a bag of holding in Sokoban, though. < 1338859900 424601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How painful would that be? < 1338859901 691389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, I know. < 1338859902 983931 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, uh < 1338859903 497288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not always!) < 1338859907 698262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sometimes it's something else.) < 1338859908 962497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think.) < 1338859912 435087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amulet of reflection. < 1338859914 837525 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"reflection i think yes < 1338859915 669549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the bag of holding is better. < 1338859925 599732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: If you steal from a shopkeeper then pay it back, the Kops will forgive you. < 1338859930 824290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they think they got angry because you stole, see? < 1338859939 901687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you're a wizard, and on your first wish you're going to get a blessed greased fixed +n silver dragon scale mail! < 1338859941 368764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So since they get angry when you steal, repaying a debt always calms the Kops down. < 1338859945 549452 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did the Kops get summoned without angering shopkeeper? < 1338859950 581357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to kill one. < 1338859956 2820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Summoned? They're always present.) < 1338859964 515870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, you can sometimes just pay a shopkeeper off to unanger them. < 1338859969 214184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether or not you stole something. < 1338859969 745047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1338859972 535120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1338859978 254779 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, they get summoned when you steal < 1338859987 6510 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh, are there loose roaming cops in Minetown? < 1338859987 219698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: They were wandering about before I stole. < 1338859990 44575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338859991 485779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Can I just use the default options file? < 1338859997 196989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Does it have reasonable autopickup settings? < 1338859998 331602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You want to enable OPTIONS=hpmon < 1338860006 627743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Because statuscolors sucks? < 1338860012 514494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly! < 1338860017 696147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but seriously. < 1338860024 11216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I actually meant to say statuscolors. But either works.) < 1338860024 645571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, I have to use the options file if I want to name my pet, don't I? < 1338860030 89886 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*15<(+)*15<(-)*20<(+)*40>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>>>>>(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*30[-][+]}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*40[+][-]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338860031 619702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can name your pet in-game. < 1338860032 977601 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 56.8 < 1338860035 390266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C < 1338860047 491523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know I'm going to turn off DECgraphics? < 1338860053 25449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray! < 1338860063 208495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Do you turn off DECgraphics, too? < 1338860063 796332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You should steal Eidolos's config file. < 1338860066 97929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I did. < 1338860067 936761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yep. < 1338860077 529059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alt.org/nethack/userdata/s/shachaf/shachaf.nh343rc < 1338860078 387767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, I *like* DECgraphics. But it looks weird in my terminal. < 1338860082 760879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the vertical bars don't meet. < 1338860101 941111 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your terminal and/or font is bad < 1338860103 32760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Does the default configuration file have menucolors? < 1338860105 744514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: It is. < 1338860111 272142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think so? < 1338860116 443338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: *sigh* < 1338860118 408639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :menucolors needs to have regexps explicitly enabled. < 1338860120 320851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just take mine! < 1338860126 497698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I mean "default" as in "NAO default". < 1338860132 820796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think NAO has a default? < 1338860138 184359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vanilla NetHack has no menucolors. < 1338860145 920732 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-125-99.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338860155 887007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Guess what I played a bit of yesterday! < 1338860159 678753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hint: The answer is Psychonauts. < 1338860168 290466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm < 1338860169 246171 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1338860171 192941 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, bastard < 1338860173 185908 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1338860175 531203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OPTIONS=menucolors < 1338860175 931239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MENUCOLOR=" blessed "=green < 1338860176 90567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MENUCOLOR=" holy "=green < 1338860176 975475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MENUCOLOR=" cursed "=red < 1338860177 430889 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer < 1338860178 970415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MENUCOLOR=" unholy "=red < 1338860181 133737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MENUCOLOR=" cursed .* (being worn)"=orange&underline < 1338860181 330405 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychonauts? < 1338860190 60084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Guess "u" "r" "wrong". < 1338860203 76597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Did you know if you use the curses interface, the message window becomes multiple lines? Also everything becomes ugly? < 1338860209 6743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "me mad :'(" < 1338860213 88851 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: worth it < 1338860215 119128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have OPTIONS=hp_monitor. < 1338860216 813943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The problem with Psychonauts is that the early game is boring. < 1338860217 913640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that hpmon? < 1338860224 60657 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*15<(+)*15<(-)*20<(+)*40>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>>>>>(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*30[-][+]}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*50[+][-]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338860226 893658 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 45.1 < 1338860232 207769 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*15<(+)*15<(-)*20<(+)*40>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>>>>>(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*30[-][+]}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*40[+][-]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338860235 62908 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 56.8 < 1338860239 787681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It gets interesting after you finish the annoying levitation place, more or less. < 1338860244 48874 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*15<(+)*15<(-)*20<(+)*40>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>>>>>(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*30[-][+]}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*45[+][-]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338860244 358694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Does statuscolors not have reasonable defaults? < 1338860246 885416 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 53.8 < 1338860247 276573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fish is a lot of fun. < 1338860253 543215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nope. It has no defaults. < 1338860259 114841 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 3pac >+>->+>->+>->+>(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*6<(+)*6<(-)*15<(+)*15<(-)*20<(+)*40>(-)*20>(+)*15>(-)*15>>>>>(>[((-)*3([+{(+)*35[-][+]}])%6>)*3((+)*3([-{(-)*40[+][-]}])%6>)*18](+)*2)*21 < 1338860262 127605 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_3pac: 57.7 < 1338860271 140872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do you know the #name-y artifact bug? < 1338860291 953284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. And I don't want to. < 1338860296 78081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm going to play NetHack. < 1338860298 65176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to watch? < 1338860300 442824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1338860303 245664 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know the elbereth bug < 1338860307 922111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would ~half an hour from now work? < 1338860309 421013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy++ < 1338860325 126912 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-132-242.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338860341 618816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sure. < 1338860353 913305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know I don't like Elbereth? < 1338860369 849161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't not use it, because it'd be purposefully hurting my play. < 1338860379 57561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: People have ascended Elberethless. < 1338860379 377964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Can you make a monqy NetHack conduct that involves no Elbereth? < 1338860382 629766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be like not casting meph. < 1338860386 787274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, no shit. < 1338860391 609650 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just like how in crawl you do labyrithss and cast meph < 1338860394 754463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That goes under the conduct of "illiterate". < 1338860395 655864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elberethless is probably the least impressive conduct anyone has ever ascended with. < 1338860398 553331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also scrolls and spellbooks. < 1338860400 172145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Yes. < 1338860400 748247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And T-shirts! < 1338860419 914774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: How about: VEGETARIAN < 1338860424 944640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That conduct is less impressive. < 1338860428 392788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or: GENOLESS < 1338860431 504271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or: POLYSELFLESS < 1338860443 18255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Autopickup_exception This seems excessive. < 1338860449 482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there something wrong with "autopickup,pickup_types:$?!/"="? < 1338860450 969122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1338860452 237902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{autopickup,pickup_types:$?!/"=}}? < 1338860470 125686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I like to autopickup,pickup_types:$ < 1338860486 493412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all you pick up? < 1338860494 718944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all I autopickup. < 1338860502 718075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a few other exceptions like magic lamps, I guess? < 1338860505 360737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't that get tedious? < 1338860516 302433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of junk lying around, "d00d". < 1338860560 822420 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : i remember when i played nethack i didn't like autopickup because my autopickup autopicked up corpses while i was fighting < 1338860567 595702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you edit your NAO rc online? < 1338860568 685434 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't like that < 1338860571 30665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This vi-style editor is annoying. < 1338860593 152686 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also remember not knowing about elbereth or anything like that < 1338860597 27823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, you can. < 1338860602 419285 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how to start the quest < 1338860604 627635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt.org/nethack/EDITMYNETHACKRCORSOMETHING < 1338860616 672115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to start the quest. But I know Elbereth. < 1338860620 465129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you set a macro up for Elbereth? < 1338860621 68827 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how to identify items! < 1338860625 619995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Autopickingup all % is probably a bad idea. < 1338860629 853558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can in Interhack! < 1338860636 469492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Wow, there's an online editor that uses HTML forms. < 1338860641 268791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than a direct editor. < 1338860641 832767 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better play interhack < 1338860643 545508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is too fancy. Too fancy. < 1338860644 458832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, but don't use that. < 1338860648 827285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay/ < 1338860650 823483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Okay. < 1338860653 893234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Why not?) < 1338860654 786774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or do use it. I don't know.) < 1338860666 219645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it support statuscolors? < 1338860671 958220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know there's a NetHack bug where doors sometimes don't open in one try? < 1338860687 562803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, it does. But I'm not going to use it. < 1338860694 66177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you ever hear the story of the time I died in NetHack because of not speaking English well? < 1338860700 530804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go on. < 1338860704 709253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also, if you're a wizard: Elbereth becomes *way* better once you get Magicbane. < 1338860714 945249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, I noticed that "the door resists!" meant that it was stuck. < 1338860720 320470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I zapped a wand at a shopkeeper. < 1338860727 108939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it said "the shopkeeper resists!" < 1338860735 241350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I thought the shopkeeper was stuck and walked over to hit him. < 1338860736 147109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1338860748 979840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's adorable. < 1338860765 345778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Weren't you kind of dead at that point anyway?) < 1338860769 140116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Hey, what should I call my cat? < 1338860772 207841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1338860773 293766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Can I call my cat "monqy"? < 1338860776 708252 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338860779 464895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call your cat "monqy"! < 1338860781 584778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, does zapping at a shk not anger it? < 1338860782 488461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no. < 1338860784 881839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to call it monqy. < 1338860787 411100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to call it squarelos. < 1338860787 570501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It was already angry. < 1338860793 759612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was at the door; I could've escaped. < 1338860799 303108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Is calling it squarelos better than calling it monqy? < 1338860800 487528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote squarelos < 1338860809 507821 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338860813 711210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's squarelos ")(( < 1338860823 200659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Also, sign up as squarelos. I can't receive mail from monqy, it feels odd. < 1338860830 794603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just did that < 1338860844 272420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you. < 1338860852 497718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Should I turn on showborn? < 1338860855 63566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I turn on showbuc? < 1338860867 901969 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's those < 1338860880 589364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: showborn doesn't really matter? < 1338860883 853517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1338860886 437150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And showbuc is good. < 1338860895 989903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how [[nethackwiki:Options]] is ridiculously NAO-biased. < 1338860898 540537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hp_monitor < 1338860898 722018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obsolete. NAO used to have the HPmon-patch, but uses now Statuscolors. < 1338860909 338857 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338860909 538543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's in the "NAO" section. Okay. < 1338860927 510604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The default rc *does* do statuscolors. < 1338860929 339923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For just HP. < 1338860933 382645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I turn on the other ones? < 1338860937 10822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NAO": "Not Another Option" < 1338860943 418874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you want? < 1338860943 580034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also menucolors. < 1338860954 264436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :## Sort items by name. One of "none", "loot", or "full" < 1338860954 442825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#OPTIONS=sortloot:full < 1338860954 602728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I turn this on? < 1338860961 284447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was once going to implement random-rainbow for Hallu. < 1338860964 308114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I didn't. < 1338860968 546184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, man! < 1338860969 534484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love hallu. < 1338860971 880106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Don't you love hallu? < 1338860978 122481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Crawl doesn't have Hallu! < 1338860983 9416 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallu < 1338860983 714391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, NetHack > Crawl. < 1338860987 54828 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue has hallu < 1338860997 667697 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk hallu is cute but annoying < 1338861019 980157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack calls MP "Pw"? < 1338861025 623718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for power < 1338861046 769511 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you played nethack before ? < 1338861054 191372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Not as a spellcaster. < 1338861057 442388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Should I colour Pw? < 1338861059 936505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The funny part is that it calls it "energy" elsewhere. < 1338861062 940152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you want to? < 1338861066 752628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as important as HP. < 1338861077 792089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Force Bolt costs 5 Pw. < 1338861083 723850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, in Crawl, MP is coloured and all. < 1338861090 500079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because having low MP is bad. (If you're no good at melee.) < 1338861091 302648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also, read [[nethackwiki::wizard]] < 1338861094 767858 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things i did in nethack: I didn't rest up hp or pw because ugh resting, especially resting in nethack < 1338861095 20991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also if you're good at melee sometimes!) < 1338861103 487896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably good. I haven't read it but why wouldn't it be? < 1338861109 44180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. I'm relying on your advice. < 1338861126 279148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Some people say wizards shouldn't do spellcasting until after the quest. < 1338861134 49947 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things i did in nethack: play healer and stone to flesh every boulder then choke to death < 1338861138 938366 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yum yum < 1338861140 330203 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wizard quest is the point where spellcasting becomes really good. < 1338861144 566099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I did that too < 1338861145 215131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1338861147 126145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1338861150 311827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But the reason I want to do spellcasting is because melee earlygame is really boring. < 1338861158 412543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK. < 1338861163 208330 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things i did in nethack: feed half-eaten lichen corpse to pony, make friend < 1338861167 843428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, does leaving showborn off cause any irretrievable information loss? < 1338861173 474687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really hate irretrievable information loss. < 1338861176 552709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. is the info tracked anywhere else) < 1338861183 54376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :') < 1338861188 861780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think showborn only affects post-death information? < 1338861191 913788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Sokoban I had about six to seven kittens. < 1338861198 398396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people try and dispose of pets in Sokoban. < 1338861200 564852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accrued more. < 1338861203 817051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Right. < 1338861210 307037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But is the information on what monsters you killed tracked elsewhere? < 1338861215 436484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Anyway, wizards + throwing daggers = mix < 1338861227 852967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And wizards + wielding Magicbane (= athame = dagger) = mix < 1338861235 271166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :## Always pick these: < 1338861235 452082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUTOPICKUP_EXCEPTION="<*magic lamp*" < 1338861235 611297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUTOPICKUP_EXCEPTION="<*wand of wishing*" < 1338861236 896064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUTOPICKUP_EXCEPTION="<*wand of death*" < 1338861238 760482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUTOPICKUP_EXCEPTION="<*wand of polymorph*" < 1338861240 818694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll uncomment these. < 1338861243 308298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The monsters you *killed*? Yes. < 1338861245 408479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually I did before I pasted that. That's why they don't have #.) < 1338861246 987335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1338861248 348901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not. < 1338861263 258580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO KNOWS, MAN < 1338861263 957337 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess who forgot about polypiling < 1338861271 381073 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess who didn't know about polypiling when he played nethack < 1338861279 690319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38? < 1338861284 771370 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess who startscummed wizards for rings of polyself then died to system shock < 1338861291 139439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: (Is there any reason to autopickup those lamps/wands?) < 1338861297 575312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: (I mean, surely I'd know if I stepped on 'em.) < 1338861303 921946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: To save you the hassle? < 1338861319 685662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/hassle/inconsistent behaviour considering nothing but gold (which is goldified) is picked up/ < 1338861319 963665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUTOPICKUP_EXCEPTION="<*gray stone*" < 1338861337 507469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Look, add whatever you want to your autopickup list! < 1338861340 142888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, OK, I think I'm ready. < 1338861345 136909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But don't add gray stone. That would be stupid.) < 1338861354 298571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: curses interface: http://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/images/9/96/Expanded-status.png < 1338861354 810838 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is gold goldified in nethack? < 1338861365 9774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it? < 1338861371 100738 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you sure that's not hugeterm? < 1338861374 552345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's glodiferd?? < 1338861380 311695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: It is. < 1338861382 332920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Unfortunately. < 1338861384 503870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's also curses. < 1338861396 475480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Goldified means that the class of items in question is not present in the inventory and takes up no weight. < 1338861398 343733 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :karl is a bad person < 1338861416 197445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, in Crawl, gold is goldified (it just adds to your gold count, nothing else), and so are runes (they just get added to the list of runes you've picked up). < 1338861430 359270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Gold takes up weight. < 1338861431 337939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Has it been half an hour yet? < 1338861445 78530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Half an hour *after* we finish talking so I can do the thing I need to do. < 1338861451 710281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't say that! < 1338861456 190530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant it! < 1338861460 730803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm not going to let you do the thing you need to do. < 1338861464 707104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to watch me instead. < 1338861509 633485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you hear that? < 1338861555 987609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I gotta, like, go home, man. :-( < 1338861563 506547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know your username. < 1338861568 561736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Where are you? I bet where you are is great. < 1338861570 320000 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have thought of that before !! < 1338861572 544266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My username is ehird. I haven't started playing yet. < 1338861576 290475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338861580 650707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great! < 1338861586 428874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go home in a moment and watch after that. < 1338861600 881030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(UNLESS: I decide to do something else instead.) < 1338861605 386553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I'll watch for a little bit.) < 1338861606 143005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, go home already. < 1338861607 881555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least.) < 1338861609 817885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338861612 569922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean now? < 1338861614 733096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet that means now. < 1338861616 641636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338861618 554521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means: < 1338861622 122371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later :'( < 1338861630 379340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION detaches from irssi < 1338861663 643743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You'll watch me, right? < 1338861671 528318 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338861683 134817 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had nao open ever since you said you'd play < 1338861684 646435 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :refreshing < 1338861686 618925 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fruitlessly < 1338861691 938866 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1338861705 715568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry :( < 1338861709 332514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alt.org/nethack/player-stats.php?player=ehird Wow, I was diverse. < 1338861724 834776 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one point i accidentally a button that opened rcfile editing and i closed that but for some reason it closed the connection then when i reconnected i made a squarelos account < 1338861731 881794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alt.org/nethack/player-all.php?player=ehird < 1338861733 866056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck? < 1338861737 403117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not played this year. < 1338861741 907752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You pressed ^C. < 1338861755 531025 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338861756 764720 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not < 1338861769 139483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338861771 678935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, maybe I have played today. < 1338861774 928913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1338861776 198562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This year. < 1338861784 362879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One second. < 1338861790 204642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me check by watching the ttyrec. < 1338861825 721658 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember you playing nethack but that may have been nh4 < 1338861829 435663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was NH4. < 1338861831 432176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, okay, I'll play. < 1338861834 862785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you prepared??? < 1338861837 431190 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338861872 403563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning - Boolean option specified multiple times: autopickup. < 1338861877 718284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BETTER FIX THAT < 1338861883 193149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1338861885 742246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started the game anyway. < 1338861887 6434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me quit that. < 1338861890 263235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are lucky! Full moon tonight. < 1338861908 270829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1338861922 913827 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you playing < 1338861928 842985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizard. < 1338861931 299946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Human, elf, gnome, orc? < 1338861933 830640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't know. < 1338861933 990016 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chaotic elf? < 1338861946 615404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me check [[nethackwiki:Wizard]]. < 1338861963 623781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, humans seem to suck, gnomes can't be chaotic, and orcs suck at spells. < 1338861964 346237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. < 1338861965 613397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elf, then. < 1338861989 940576 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could be lawful and wear opposite alignment < 1338861994 241621 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ideas (c) monqy < 1338862002 6742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder which gender I should be! < 1338862007 922431 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1338862014 545404 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for optimal game play experience < 1338862026 533615 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're female you can lay eggs; that's a boon < 1338862033 171442 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can males do anything ? < 1338862035 185510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, but < 1338862036 90562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any eggs found and carried by male characters have a 50/50 chance of hatching tame. Eggs found and carried by females will never hatch tame. (Eggs laid by you will always hatch tame, regardless of your current gender.) < 1338862050 324051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In NetHack brass, female characters dressed as nurses can apply bandages faster than men." < 1338862060 736621 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks brass < 1338862063 18336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just be male. < 1338862068 295606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm BORING. < 1338862071 917153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ehird the Evoker" < 1338862074 589339 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how boring < 1338862076 330399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANK YOU FOR MANGLING MY NAME, NETHACK < 1338862088 517422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command 'y'. < 1338862089 240578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh < 1338862098 278406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OPTIONS=number_pad:1 < 1338862100 110340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a terrible default. < 1338862103 776390 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack is controlled exlusively by numpad < 1338862112 983302 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"get used to it" < 1338862114 593780 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 NICK :TenRantStew < 1338862123 405448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I'm back on. < 1338862126 115523 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know: when i played nethack, for a while i exlusively used arrowkeys < 1338862130 499855 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i learned vikeys < 1338862161 430342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack's interface is so weird, ugh. < 1338862173 300600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you cast spells? < 1338862176 175216 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z < 1338862185 537346 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that;s a captal z < 1338862185 696479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's elvish eyesight like? < 1338862194 80192 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lower case z is zap wand < 1338862194 915202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, I guessed. < 1338862203 482020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joke time! < 1338862206 549133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you autoexplore? < 1338862213 150937 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :play nh4 < 1338862239 917269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what's dumb? < 1338862244 979386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack's secret corridor stuff. < 1338862258 774914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Now would be an excellent time to send me "hi". < 1338862271 821513 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1338862275 438150 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are playing nethack? < 1338862276 352277 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1338862285 913624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I've played NetHack before! < 1338862322 373979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Did that mail daemon just... reveal terrain for me? < 1338862332 211033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack: so broken < 1338862381 349973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: OK you have to reduce your frequency of mail-sending because NetHack's UI for it is awful. < 1338862385 981880 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1338862393 135801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, where the heck is the shop? < 1338862402 384628 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may or may not be why i'm sending so much mail < 1338862418 757222 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack's ui for mail is comically bad < 1338862427 780184 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to pick it up and read it, right < 1338862437 96685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: A mail daemon runs towards you. < 1338862441 617032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a scroll of mail ends up in your inventory. < 1338862443 605564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you have to read it. < 1338862446 713965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it doesn't just say < 1338862448 346655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone: hi < 1338862449 64566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says < 1338862464 465470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a message on this scroll. The message is from 'someone'.--More-- < 1338862466 815160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It reads: "hi". < 1338862474 44746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Where's the shop :( < 1338862478 41950 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338862478 471749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot "as you read the scroll it disappears" < 1338862482 722210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Ah, yes. < 1338862483 921547 :TenRantStew!~tswett@171.64.42.221 NICK :tswett < 1338862499 246333 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try the black spots < 1338862520 493372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A scroll of mail will "activate" an Elbereth square like any other object." < 1338862530 574009 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack is best game < 1338862563 23572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: seriously though < 1338862582 700967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Seriously. < 1338862585 35014 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's red!! < 1338862588 482375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338862590 510699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I retreated. < 1338862591 793429 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tjhat's serious < 1338862599 584943 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i played nethack i didn't have menucolors < 1338862606 718586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's statuscolors < 1338862609 58327 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i didn't notice when i was dying < 1338862610 11295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is menucolors < 1338862614 634596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow each book contains one spell? < 1338862631 398257 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack books tend to do that,y es < 1338862639 227538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a convenient key like 5 < 1338862639 769327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1338862644 488207 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :100. < 1338862645 794329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: are you watching me; you should watch me! < 1338862665 778491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how can I tell which corpses are ok to eat ;( < 1338862666 497507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1338862671 745262 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :memorisation < 1338862674 923293 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont eat kobolds < 1338862679 467383 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're bad for you < 1338862681 254852 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not on nao < 1338862681 975136 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1338862683 60595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1338862684 506786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i am < 1338862685 668951 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: ehird < 1338862691 230505 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok < 1338862698 129660 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, you have to memorize or look up 99% of things in nethack < 1338862701 628310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you want to hear a joke < 1338862706 358456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is: x is examine in crawl < 1338862708 883876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "switch weapon" in nethack < 1338862720 749037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is: it takes a turn and leaves you bare-handed if you have no alternate weapon < 1338862721 109839 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it l or v or something < 1338862722 12918 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in nethack < 1338862723 469649 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1338862724 769509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :; < 1338862727 527500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :farlook is ; < 1338862731 686204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :l is go right obviously < 1338862731 866170 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338862734 218223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :v is version < 1338862736 568200 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would need to look up all of the keys < 1338862741 444583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i wear the iron skull cap < 1338862745 237034 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338862749 301781 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does patashue play net hack < 1338862763 487326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: where is the shop < 1338862766 256564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously!!! < 1338862766 617225 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to play it < 1338862809 13711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: WHERE IS THE SHOP < 1338862834 800963 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try the black spots!! < 1338862836 839397 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them < 1338862839 40329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I HAVE :( < 1338862844 259120 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them? < 1338862862 492564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want to hear another joke? < 1338862865 746500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack's ally management system. < 1338862933 622199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: where is shop < 1338863019 968189 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338863025 862279 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338863027 660265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: was that one of your funny jokes < 1338863046 231086 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're not giving me much to work with!! < 1338863076 572409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls don't make the jokes TOO funny because I am really  bad  at  NetHack < 1338863085 686268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus will have no idea if you are serious or not < 1338863099 313592 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's part of the fun < 1338863142 602405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You faint from lack of food. You regain consciousness. < 1338863144 961892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You faint from lack of food. You regain consciousness. < 1338863147 10604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You feel tough! You must be leading a healthy life-style. < 1338863183 262976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you attack pets < 1338863187 746568 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try kicking < 1338863201 40431 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338863206 300831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338863207 202453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was that < 1338863211 799639 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was that < 1338863222 17934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it patashu < 1338863224 773176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to play nethack if < 1338863229 849685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :other people are watching me be really terrible < 1338863232 218911 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :play it play it < 1338863233 828218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if like 10 people were watching m < 1338863234 186829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1338863239 1972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if #nethack ganged up to laugh at me < 1338863241 324329 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's part of the fun < 1338863244 316545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: join #nethack to make sure they don't do that < 1338863252 993031 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you be in #nethack too < 1338863255 786798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338863257 796161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im play again < 1338863260 841415 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im in nethack < 1338863266 473899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1338863267 460889 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre very well behaved < 1338863268 153701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is fuglia < 1338863276 833996 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nice guy < 1338863277 12840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i don;t believe youre in #nethack < 1338863284 844668 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you join and see for yourself < 1338863285 639238 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1338863293 949360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that i can check < 1338863305 620672 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddid you ask someone :( < 1338863308 258630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alt.org/nethack/irc.php hMMMMMMM i see no monqy joins lines < 1338863338 794849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not going in there!!! < 1338863340 512563 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's scary < 1338863368 125958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: remember how ghosts are spaces in nethack < 1338863373 208377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1338863375 335007 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yse < 1338863376 730871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remind me to fix that < 1338863378 213928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: watch < 1338863381 581500 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you missed elliott's first game < 1338863385 80092 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it was a "blast" < 1338863403 757488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did elliott "explode" in the "blast"????? < 1338863414 236208 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploded into a pile of fainted ehird < 1338863423 293132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :from lack of "food" < 1338863425 146912 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone mysterious called him a murderer and he fainted after reading it < 1338863432 388329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I died < 1338863447 364623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they called me a murderer because i kicked my pet so that i could eat it) < 1338863451 583876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think) < 1338863463 529522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alt.org/nethack/player-stats.php?player=Fuglia < 1338863465 774523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have only played one game < 1338863468 382631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PatashuXantheres: was it you < 1338863496 962499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Waht are you playing<<> < 1338863497 122322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you want to hear a joke < 1338863499 718260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pets stop travel in nethack < 1338863501 622276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see your "ivnentory" < 1338863508 576094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: male elf wizard < 1338863524 50848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long should i wait to find more corridor/secret doors/etc. before giving up < 1338863524 793810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no \"ivnentory" for you" < 1338863532 873978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not long. < 1338863541 786694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many turns < 1338863544 139456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's inventory < 1338863547 756274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus uncursed wooden harp < 1338863555 960133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg identify!! < 1338863563 513239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1338863566 214141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can elves only start chaotic < 1338863570 662646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You know iron is bad for casters, right? < 1338863603 838635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: In Crawl only body armour affects that. :( < 1338863663 921413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I thought you were going to cast spells! < 1338863669 734620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will! < 1338863693 504148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is there really no convenient key for resting to recover HP? < 1338863698 17902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from 100. < 1338863698 937903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :500. < 1338863708 715401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :844. < 1338863714 376766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All sorts of numeric prefixes to .! < 1338863723 135304 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. < 1338863727 248281 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :55. < 1338863727 407296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. < 1338863736 472666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is the other room :'( < 1338863738 971179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Are you coming to visit? < 1338863742 857324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :visit? < 1338863745 867240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338863761 456430 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: was that visit < 1338863772 495525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: No, I mean visit me! < 1338863773 219988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Should I try digging for victory? < 1338863777 526616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No. < 1338863779 839463 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1338863781 572985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why not? < 1338863784 394230 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how does thaat work < 1338863785 14404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's boring in the other dimension. < 1338863791 394770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The other dimension"? < 1338863794 162752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not sure ;"9( < 1338863813 172632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you win it's interesting, but you're going to lost right away all the time instead. < 1338863827 912186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sounds like diving in NetHack. < 1338863829 532378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1338863831 144920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sounds like diving in Crawl. < 1338863836 978029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except diving is exciting even if you lose. < 1338863837 137995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi, my name is eliot, and i'm gonianng to lsots." < 1338863840 816969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338863843 880937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is diving exciting even if you lose in NetHack? < 1338863844 694642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should, then. < 1338863849 296750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know! < 1338863849 843427 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like diving in crawl if you're bad at diving in crawl < 1338863865 150195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is there a good way to wait for my pet? :( < 1338863871 101846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Anyway, if you get both a pick axe and a musical isntrument, you can try to DfV. < 1338863877 899395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a harp. < 1338863881 230529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Noel.p[e; "9( < 1338863882 154349 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: apply whistle of come here please < 1338863887 421810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What monqy said. < 1338863890 533590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: On Dlvl:1. < 1338863897 80644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GO TO DLVL:2 < 1338863909 383300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This computer program brought to you by: COBOL.) < 1338863914 591929 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :find a mirror and say "squarelos" three times < 1338863915 289905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of people just abandon their pets, I think. < 1338863918 777844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's awful. < 1338863921 522451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually do. < 1338863922 212401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :D < 1338863925 829306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so annoying! < 1338863935 304167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whats' "squarelos" < 1338863936 640683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I love squarelos. < 1338863950 225234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/learndb.html#squarelos, http://crawl.akrasiac.org/learndb.html#monqy < 1338863989 590689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How do I get in that doorway now that I've shoved a rock in front of it? < 1338863997 137288 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: zap force bolt at the rock < 1338864005 919500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1338864028 864266 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of my ol "make rocks stop being in my way" techs < 1338864035 836520 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other is to stone to flesh then eat it < 1338864087 816156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a secret tech? < 1338864091 137106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What about: < 1338864098 256007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zap wnad of stkiring at it < 1338864101 188461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or! < 1338864105 491798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apply pick axe at it < 1338864106 731944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or! < 1338864114 51397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take off all your clothes and crawl under it < 1338864122 198247 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kick it until it shatters under the might of your chops < 1338864126 311858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or! < 1338864131 504662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polymorph into a giant and pick it up. < 1338864138 892158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or! Become a xorn and walk through it. < 1338864139 51744 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :polymorph into a xorn and eat it < 1338864140 395985 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yum yum < 1338864146 214645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xorns can't eat rocks! < 1338864147 662958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I also complained to ais523 that the dungeon generation algorithm was awful! < 1338864148 920546 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what!!! < 1338864151 563427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly monqy. < 1338864161 634255 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you hear my ring tech < 1338864172 872235 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stone to flesh the ring, then eat it < 1338864173 657347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Zap stone to flesh on a stone ring, eat it? < 1338864175 906155 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338864183 934879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Is that your everything tech? < 1338864187 123121 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's not new to nh4... < 1338864189 616867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Did you hear: < 1338864192 89025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: No, it isn't. < 1338864193 578969 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338864194 761693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zap stone to flesh on a stone golem < 1338864197 123328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a rock golem < 1338864197 559181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It's still true! < 1338864200 526468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1338864203 471650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flesh golem < 1338864205 276296 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flesh golem, surely? < 1338864212 737299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rockflesh golem < 1338864214 106745 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zap cocatrice on flesh golem < 1338864234 597645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im hallu < 1338864241 240909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Uh-oh. < 1338864241 974338 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1338864242 848765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1338864244 23697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott = stoner golem < 1338864244 501955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i hit my own pet < 1338864255 531836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a sad feeling for a moment, then it passes. < 1338864255 775451 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you hear my other ring tech? < 1338864258 623319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR PET = DEAD < 1338864260 67950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooooooooooooooooo < 1338864265 403218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But at least you didn't kill it. < 1338864267 125892 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: zap stone to flesh on stone ring, then wear it on your finger < 1338864268 313724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you don't get wrath. < 1338864270 548953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION changes in-game name to kmc < 1338864274 434785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Pray if you haven't prayed recentl. < 1338864293 251689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, did you have food? < 1338864299 408533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't have prayed if you had food. < 1338864302 810893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you didn't. < 1338864302 970382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what i actually killed < 1338864304 996911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, I didn't < 1338864314 72599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1338864316 643580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these actually < 1338864317 551251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good < 1338864324 534764 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :collect rocks and polypile into food < 1338864331 537482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you should play healer so you can stone to flesh < 1338864351 437753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: And then eat it? < 1338864351 731637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoooah < 1338864354 72831 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338864354 416978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338864357 165532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im dyign < 1338864358 96924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: HP=0 < 1338864359 376203 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also heal squarelos by playing a healere < 1338864366 824156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your... < 1338864376 918903 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe you should force bolt more before you start to die < 1338864377 78387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Um, close the door and rest? < 1338864377 78554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip giant bat < 1338864382 495577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't eat the bat. < 1338864386 658642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you want to. < 1338864387 213130 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also note: you can eat corpses before you get hungry < 1338864396 593524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1338864399 471061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get Satiated. < 1338864405 511226 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338864414 90674 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then the corpses will go bad and you'll get foodpois < 1338864416 274388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just Create Monster? < 1338864419 819958 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338864422 94265 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what happens if you don't eat the corpses < 1338864427 569345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You feel that eating the little dog was a bad idea. < 1338864428 104358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338864436 61261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Don't eat little dogs. :-"( < 1338864438 531796 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see this is why you stone to flesh on rocks < 1338864439 490462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1338864441 263305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or: Little cats :(9 < 1338864441 556081 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can feed them to dogs < 1338864441 875534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to it < 1338864446 591546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was my < 1338864447 28550 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feed the rocks to the dogs < 1338864447 675438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad < 1338864449 161238 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feed the dogs rocks < 1338864451 657145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338864452 565328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1338864453 466544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338864453 975091 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338864454 732291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happened!!! < 1338864458 533824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i lose piety < 1338864459 431462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1338864462 215257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get penance < 1338864462 750953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1338864463 654579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something < 1338864465 502559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("crawl") < 1338864485 878217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a serious answer!!! < 1338864489 353006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not want to play if i only get < 1338864490 76476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`jokes' < 1338864492 885543 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: jokes': not found < 1338864527 560047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: (seriously what happened) < 1338864528 641897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: (^) < 1338864534 105199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You now have the "aggravate monster" intrinsic. < 1338864537 482979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOREVER < 1338864547 491356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh. < 1338864549 793108 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: eating dogs is bad for your alignment or something < 1338864551 718613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should just check the wiki. < 1338864556 791705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I did. < 1338864560 211443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you asked. < 1338864562 780386 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338864567 677633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Aggravate_monster < 1338864577 799447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you leave no cues whatsoever as to whether your answers are serious or not, making asking you pointless. < 1338864594 475844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338864609 59673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, now you know. < 1338864610 597675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, this intrinsic looks annoying. < 1338864614 393260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess I'll have a stupid death now. < 1338864621 504503 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dive for glory < 1338864628 630306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even have a digging tool. < 1338864631 375105 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat zombe < 1338864647 888337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't eat zombe < 1338864652 815547 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat zombe < 1338864659 922061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1338864660 812293 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zombe eaten < 1338864662 621774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let's try that again. < 1338864669 33253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This time I won't eat a dog or a cat. < 1338864709 72692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why does NetHack feel so klunky? < 1338864711 286335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*clunky < 1338864744 181460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1338864879 437018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Read-iding scrolls is dumb, right? < 1338864928 918313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As is meleeing acid blobs. < 1338865049 222112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you enjoying my nethack adventure < 1338865126 573634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoah < 1338865133 438946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1338865134 704238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what is this < 1338865136 156160 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338865136 817327 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338865162 641909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are shachaf and monqy ignoring me :( < 1338865209 264949 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gone < 1338865212 220097 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im aback now < 1338865220 791206 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the gnms and duarf? < 1338865232 908169 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try a "force bolt" < 1338865252 385107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just meant the weird level layout but yeah that too < 1338865263 110411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1338865265 226089 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :efficiency < 1338865267 677488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :force bolt "op" < 1338865288 67255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ok to eat corpse < 1338865295 878102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ok to wear hooded cloak & do i want to < 1338865313 189744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1338865322 37961 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so / i think so < 1338865328 113962 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ i think so < 1338865343 903769 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask someone who knows nethack!!! < 1338865360 126278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard shoes are iron < 1338865360 667922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1338865366 782610 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only know enough nethack to make funny jokes and give mediocre earlygame advice < 1338865372 906729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooded is dwarvish < 1338865385 950396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1338865387 439476 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see i didn't even know those things < 1338865388 662637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm already wearing a cloak < 1338865397 381954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i see green * < 1338865398 284100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1338865402 479097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaAAAHHHH giant spore < 1338865414 711517 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things that i know about nethacjk: negative ac is good ac < 1338865415 15453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQUARELOS < 1338865415 206811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1338865420 214593 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did squarelos do < 1338865431 797996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fought a hwarf < 1338865434 213744 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see this is why you should be a healer < 1338865435 408495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get it < 1338865436 389182 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heal squaelos < 1338865438 164288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like qwarf < 1338865439 789954 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yeah, THAC0 < 1338865443 495107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for nethack < 1338865449 151246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you laughing < 1338865451 971159 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338865456 345376 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a mess < 1338865458 124924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1338865459 568187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338865460 651465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a mess < 1338865469 417806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a better level layout than most levels < 1338865489 343509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the mines or something!!!! < 1338865494 245517 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know < 1338865496 431382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why so many Gnomes and hwarfs < 1338865515 384305 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt see you enter the level, but i do know the mines have that laoutt, and Gnomes, and huarfs < 1338865517 861783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahaha < 1338865518 942458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i typed < 1338865520 383067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :520. < 1338865521 186076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by mistake < 1338865522 296785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1338865524 320237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 for rest < 1338865541 811835 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat corps (jokes' it'll foood poison you) < 1338865547 100673 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's gone anyway < 1338865548 77812 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip corps < 1338865560 222435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is use-iding amulets bad < 1338865564 923597 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangulation < 1338865577 871999 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps im gone again i'll be back soon < 1338865931 990755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you back < 1338865998 698640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't find dungeon feature '>'. < 1338865999 785213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck < 1338866002 927106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ??? < 1338866013 587597 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im back now < 1338866020 749439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were downstairs before < 1338866036 561506 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they get covert up < 1338866067 3605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1338866067 906977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no < 1338866080 728091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1338866081 817597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the mines < 1338866083 439902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338866086 876134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :next time i won't enter the mines immediately < 1338866088 685193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you ready for me to < 1338866089 770708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`play again' < 1338866092 758728 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: play: not found < 1338866093 584321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im actually < 1338866094 357670 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye' < 1338866095 35421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a bit of fun! < 1338866097 55396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a nethack first for me < 1338866133 3445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im paly < 1338866189 220428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: imagine playing nethack without colours or travel < 1338866223 951906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip squarelos < 1338866227 61751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"missed but not too much' < 1338866228 141206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*" < 1338866266 293790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip squarelos < 1338866270 446543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"missed but not too much" < 1338866309 326417 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine playing nethack < 1338866323 623636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nethack isn't too bad c'mon!!! < 1338866328 48880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just silly < 1338866329 715388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very silly < 1338866338 111927 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338866421 647466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: look at berry's game < 1338866423 276663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is he DOING??? < 1338866441 193200 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on nao or what < 1338866443 337842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338866475 417860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHERE ARE THE DOWNSTAIRS ???? < 1338866482 830482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were here a moment ago < 1338866491 735144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338866492 964280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went down them < 1338866499 477625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait now < 1338866500 567998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1338866538 713933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wow berry's more message is in < 1338866539 255204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :italics < 1338866543 584686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :italics < 1338866597 495655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was away. < 1338866602 441672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now yuo're not < 1338866605 331645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i died in mines! < 1338866609 541160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't realise it was mines though < 1338866616 38433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspected it might be < 1338866619 566357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i didn't realise i;d entered mines < 1338866620 208760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: read-iding scorolls is dumb "( < 1338866624 160400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338866627 418747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you id scrolls then! < 1338866629 582163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1338866630 308802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget < 1338866633 394375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You id scrolls with < 1338866634 194373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :id < 1338866635 61847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrolls < 1338866638 909517 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shope < 1338866639 269261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PARADOX < 1338866640 507833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you id id scrolls!!!! < 1338866645 541070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: id id id scrolls < 1338866650 524445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help - me < 1338866652 94402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No, you do it with a shop.) < 1338866655 595408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or with statistics! < 1338866662 25343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ID is the most common type of scroll. < 1338866687 896552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i want a looking glass < 1338866790 818153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not wear unidentified magic boots without curse-testing them first. < 1338866791 720682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh00ps < 1338866831 875578 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya goo"00"fed < 1338866845 163245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goo00fed < 1338866848 416125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i tell whether staircase goes to mines < 1338866851 343525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how do i < 1338866882 211615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knights can identify all weapons and non-magical armor from the beginning. They also have a special intrinsic ability to #jump like the knight piece in chess. < 1338866882 421869 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no is berry ooze farming < 1338866894 748992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: this is like ??implemented bad ideas < 1338866899 665654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the second sentence, I mean) < 1338866917 412154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i watched Wooble do what appeared to be pudding farming on the planes once < 1338866931 741992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do curse-testing on altars. < 1338866933 634977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to sacrifice or something < 1338866937 428191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah i know but < 1338866940 137371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :staircase question is more important < 1338866945 92320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What question? < 1338866953 128759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:27 how do i tell whether staircase goes to mines < 1338866959 589912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try both of them. < 1338866968 141282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that has the mines on the other end < 1338866968 311494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this mines < 1338866969 977412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goes to < 1338866971 813988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mines. < 1338866973 936479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's not mines. < 1338866976 635578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a room. < 1338866978 109992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey - me < 1338866985 556642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good to do some more dlvls before mines i don't know what the < 1338866987 909527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"accepted wisdom" < 1338866988 267484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1338866996 892395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only ever did mines as a gnome < 1338866997 74195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1338866998 922972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were kind of boring < 1338866999 598221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's a good idea to always go down-and-right-back-up when you see a staircase, so that you know where it is on the level. < 1338867004 181859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you need to find it from < 1338867006 354339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the other side" < 1338867020 633516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Mines-first or Sokoban-first are both accepted wisdom. < 1338867020 793072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is crawl wisdom too but it's boring so i don't do it < 1338867042 31778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I mean, assuming I do Mines first, do I go into Mines as soon as I find the entrance? < 1338867047 73973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: However, accepted wisdom is not to go past minetown. < 1338867048 858650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I level up a bit in the dungeon first? < 1338867052 518431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are nasty things down there. < 1338867057 226997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Either way. < 1338867059 536530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that, I think. < 1338867067 474369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mines are OK for leveling pre-post-minetown. < 1338867093 623742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A blessed potion of see invisible shatters!--More-- < 1338867095 249350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wh00ps" < 1338867101 810521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :force_bolt_on_monkey_unreasons < 1338867110 947976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how do i avoid being hungry all the time < 1338867114 565083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont answer eating ill kill you < 1338867147 332498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is reading unid'd spellbooks ok) < 1338867185 876157 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tests < 1338867188 456670 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might teleport and paralyze you < 1338867190 39669 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the same time < 1338867216 950696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: query of seriousness level!!! < 1338867224 991118 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im serious < 1338867235 794551 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes if i had no other escape options i'd use a spellbook < 1338867237 502478 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"im lame" < 1338867248 682657 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn';t know about elbereth < 1338867252 335480 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spellbook is cooler anyway < 1338867253 675037 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I _think_ it's safe if you're a wizard, it will warn you if it's too difficult < 1338867272 922696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Boots does "2 AC" mean "-2 AC" < 1338867283 44945 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try them on < 1338867283 988178 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and see < 1338867291 884703 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also im gone oops < 1338867295 939747 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"will be back" < 1338867335 555694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does mean -2 AC < 1338867368 861113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are laden with moisture and can barely breathe! < 1338867369 970776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1338867386 35463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite messages like "You are laden with moisture and can barely breathe", they are not very dangerous because of their low speed. < 1338867386 614178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338867404 857341 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: AD&D-style AC is ludicrously confusing like that, and unfortunately Nethack was inspired by AD&D mechanics. < 1338867420 902903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you should watch me!! < 1338867422 166749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fumble < 1338867423 613294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hilariously" < 1338867463 167781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(special one-time only offer: if you start watching, you can decide whether I do Mines right now or more Dungeon first!) < 1338867703 964027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The DevTeam does not consider the lack of any warnings about hitting a floating eye to be a bug.[1] The encyclopedia entry does warn even unspoiled players of the danger." < 1338867733 339097 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one nice thing about ace < 1338867739 78522 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more e yasds < 1338867742 111468 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not blue es anyway < 1338867745 712048 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :grays are still dangerous < 1338867779 327662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does ace do? < 1338867787 568166 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just cause you to miss them < 1338867811 313089 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than basically kill you < 1338867814 177130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: You should also watch me!!! < 1338867859 952268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1338867861 361513 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: better things to do, sorry :( < 1338867863 228368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i call an orange potion < 1338867867 293130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1338867876 450485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: that hurts me in the part of me that hurts :'( < 1338867908 682925 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's called the pituitary gland < 1338867922 15748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that hurts me in the pituitary gland < 1338867932 459696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i get it removed < 1338868170 638140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ate a zombie < 1338868172 625862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyyy < 1338868282 256892 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1338868287 333444 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dywypi? < 1338868379 935546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: nope < 1338868380 660851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :prayed < 1338868388 751449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :religion_reasons < 1338868392 392949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh i can't < 1338868392 754117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1338868396 46356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :appending _reasons to things < 1338868401 141196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey i got a pickaxe < 1338868409 192114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are carrying too much to get through. < 1338868409 551659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1338868411 394873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i'm an elf < 1338868413 743609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elves have that a lot right < 1338868467 801306 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338868472 500972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they did < 1338868474 715525 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a fixed point < 1338868479 246545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's no carry warning on my screen < 1338868480 15662 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :above 600s I believe < 1338868482 688471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i drop stuff or something < 1338868517 230427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You step onto a level teleport trap! You feel a wrenching sensation. < 1338868517 770511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1338868566 902100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1338868567 804003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trap door < 1338868573 967699 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338868601 477177 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2^(x+2))^2=(2^4)*4^x < 1338868661 508132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I think I fell to minetown < 1338868669 978858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1338868671 68398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :convenient < 1338868687 492924 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1338868703 1187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack < 1338868707 567863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it's no less contextless than what you said :) < 1338868776 695319 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to resume my game < 1338868780 81375 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I killed vlad last time < 1338868783 807005 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my vladbane was awesome < 1338868801 657007 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure to use a kickass vladbane k? < 1338868827 182446 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the book Number Freak a while ago, and a thing it mentions is that 16 objects can be arranged into a 4*4 solid square or a 5*5 hollow one. < 1338868846 399446 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that this is because 2^4=4^2. < 1338868921 876507 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It said that this was unique, and for the form a^b=b^a;a!=b, and it is, but I wanted to find a way to generalise it, so I did. < 1338868925 571142 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it often the case that a^b = b^a ? < 1338868959 956463 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dang... if i was a better mathematician i may have realized to note a!=b < 1338868978 415386 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338868992 249948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you miss my interestingness < 1338869003 535973 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget to remember that part sometimes. < 1338869042 199290 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my head, it is implied by the use of a and b that a!=b < 1338869094 929066 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it would be more optimal to say a^a=a^a rather than a^b=b^a;a=b < 1338869114 955714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: except that that would exclude all the as and bs that aren't equal!!! < 1338869175 736782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see here a small mimic corpse (5 zorkmids). < 1338869179 352900 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the difference between a mathematician i suppose < 1338869181 74844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to charge me for the corpse of the mimic I just killed? < 1338869187 360403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you, Pemboeang. fuck you. < 1338869282 352915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo help < 1338869291 900098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I angered izchak by destroying his door in the process of killing a gnome wizard < 1338869296 52110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: help :'( < 1338869312 268291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh at least he killed the mimic though < 1338869494 697633 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: so yeah, is it often the case that a^b=b^a;a!=b ? < 1338869508 840488 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it just in the case of {2,4} < 1338869613 584905 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what fallacies i commited by saying "or is it just in the case of {2,4}" < 1338869631 142622 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is not. < 1338869646 678786 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would i say..... < 1338869727 297853 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a in {2,4}; b in {2,4}; a!=b < 1338869734 621397 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like so? :D < 1338869742 622410 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess? < 1338869749 980713 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good enough for me < 1338869792 252377 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. sighs < 1338869818 54307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1338869819 316350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: help < 1338869856 46087 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The I tihnk it's that 2^2 = 4. < 1338869869 82491 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a^b=b^a;a!=b iff a ∈ {2,4}; b ∈ {2,4} < 1338869879 118021 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in either case it's 2^2^2. < 1338869881 631085 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah.. the symbol went unicode < 1338869912 568554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"went Unicode" < 1338869935 861802 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can't really trust unicode to show up < 1338869937 266695 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With other values I tihnk there's a solution, jsut not an integer one. < 1338869971 527337 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi im baakc < 1338869991 482954 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, or something like that. < 1338869994 567321 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALso hi. < 1338869995 523859 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah 16 = 4^4 = 5 * 2 + 3 * 2 < 1338869999 319959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i angered izchak by blasting his door in the process of killing a gnome wizard < 1338870000 975397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was on the door < 1338870007 346108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he killed the small mimic for me but now he's killing me :( < 1338870013 63213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't want to kill izchak (not that i could) because "karma" < 1338870034 694283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In all other cases, you can pay him 1000zm for a 2/3 chance of pacifying him." < 1338870037 982292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't have 1000zm < 1338870039 787796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as of a while ago < 1338870039 946988 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :∈ < 1338870043 578156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1338870043 737816 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1338870044 487563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338870058 848734 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1338870063 418991 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldnt v killed that nome < 1338870103 564019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have killed it with melee you mean < 1338870105 910161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway help < 1338870106 997856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what can i do < 1338870118 561082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1338870125 467707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1338870129 79161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blasted izchak's door < 1338870139 49456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite not being in izchak's shop < 1338870156 362095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1338870166 768718 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: ah so its the only one with an integer solution? < 1338870188 680800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: pakka pakka shield < 1338870201 404014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1338870203 812227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: time to try again!!! < 1338870204 716780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thsi is fun < 1338870206 271029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know < 1338870242 621616 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to enjoy nethack < 1338870261 64977 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sends MDude a tetris variant with only one tetronimo.. the [][][][] < 1338870274 180904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe you can enjoy it again!!! < 1338870275 341765 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the interface got to me, then i learned about all the horrible things in it < 1338870280 730145 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its just < 1338870282 231597 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the same < 1338870299 303156 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather □□□□ < 1338870308 424359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Marduk, the creator, is mentioned in the introduction text. He created at least the Mazes of Menace, and probably the entire universe. Aside from that, however, he plays no part in the game." < 1338870315 519740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the thing with nethack is: "not taking it seriously" < 1338870328 607863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean there has to be SOME game that's horrible < 1338870334 61896 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like 4.1 without 5 < 1338870340 767911 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want my 5 < 1338870350 380107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you could macro up a 5!!! < 1338870352 578868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not like 4.1 < 1338870355 507578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.1 is way more punishing wow < 1338870360 832638 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a joke < 1338870365 984815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1338870370 881030 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can create 4*4 solid squares or a 5*5 hollow ones with that tetronimo using tetris rules! < 1338870388 352137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :duuuuumb < 1338870413 68060 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to play nethack quickly < 1338870422 259930 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an important question < 1338870455 91825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reverse "Elbereth" < 1338870456 26143 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "htereblE" < 1338870469 109754 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So thou though thou couldst kill me, fool?" < 1338870470 502124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: probably but you playing quickly always happens when you're not having fun < 1338870474 935558 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: Yes, or the only one where the solution, a, and b are all integers anyway. < 1338870477 508460 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :h. tereble < 1338870482 417872 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elbereths true nature revealt < 1338870484 544097 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Choose which spell to cast: finger of death < 1338870488 131717 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You kill the Wizard of Yendor! < 1338870499 722419 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it happens when im having fun too < 1338870504 559302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nope < 1338870523 483187 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does < 1338870526 382872 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not all the time < 1338870532 987295 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas when im not having fun i tend to play fast < 1338870549 74094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p. squarelos < 1338870550 680475 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway fine i;'ll play some nethack whatever < 1338870556 175225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i didn't mean now!! < 1338870561 718518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now is hte time to watch me play nethack "a sacred time" < 1338870580 708030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even send me lots of mail!!! < 1338870606 221197 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338871086 994988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: where shop < 1338871100 889256 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere shop < 1338871128 574329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is > < 1338871134 241106 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere > < 1338871349 689082 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I read " You kill the Wizard of Yendor!" it all clicked < 1338871581 572971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338871651 967267 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338871812 930104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it does not seem like you can convert a lawful to chaotic altar? < 1338871814 558232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only cross-aligned < 1338871829 904227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thgat is cross-aligned??? < 1338871835 449796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338871865 697851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha take that < 1338871866 968730 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338871881 691707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338871883 140747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: now i pray right < 1338871890 635041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that < 1338871892 79799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not enough" < 1338871904 286297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopeful feeling sounds good!!! < 1338871916 353348 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont pray for it < 1338871922 418833 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc you get it from an offering < 1338871924 453892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can pray, have positive alignment and your god is not angry you generally have a chance of getting an artifact. Your level must be greater than 2, and your luck must be nonnegative. If those conditions are met, the chances of your getting an artifact are 1/(10 + 2 × Number of existing artifacts × Number of gifts granted by your god): < 1338871925 32184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338871926 996736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"can pray" < 1338871935 760326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does my artefact likelihood decrease over time < 1338871937 749617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can I sacrifice < 1338871941 156067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"at my leisure" < 1338871942 895381 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1338871956 90820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1338871969 826110 :djx!~djx@112.4.75.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338871998 558536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1338872002 75083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not carrying around corpses reasons < 1338872003 702928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome djx < 1338872006 700038 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :djx: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338872011 79104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: let's try that again < 1338872017 589146 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you die < 1338872025 871880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338872027 316076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you miss it < 1338872029 321581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor you < 1338872043 504974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NR 9 < 1338872066 94035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you want to hear a joek < 1338872067 18360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joek < 1338872067 926181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke < 1338872093 738187 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke < 1338872101 116101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is < 1338872102 98414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i < 1338872106 254208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually forgot in the process of asking that < 1338872116 826264 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do that all the time < 1338872135 996500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i generally find it a surprising event when i am like you in some way < 1338872142 853485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you are a good cat < 1338872153 333193 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will try and provide a good analogy just to make sure < 1338872238 198897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: where > < 1338872255 239490 :djx!~djx@112.4.75.18 PART :#esoteric < 1338872263 773253 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere > < 1338872288 160702 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if an announcer was going to present the next performer to the stage, and he had the name in his head, but then he focused on saying "folks.. this is what you've all been waiting for.. the great, the wonderful, the magnificient.." and then forgetting the name < 1338872302 839592 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. < 1338872360 749265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice chaotic altar < 1338872362 377000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- elliott < 1338872371 15525 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338872377 383895 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a better analogy would be.. "what i'm about to tell you is really cool but i have to warn you that it could be distressing.. oh and also i cannot take all the credit for it, but the idea just occured to me.. so as i was saying" ... "i forget" < 1338872382 56797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no squarelos < 1338872383 151027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't eat < 1338872384 588550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the jackal corpse < 1338872385 308563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1338872396 253450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgive you because you are a cat < 1338872427 94910 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is he a god cat < 1338872470 247020 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also when i played nethack: i didnt knowa bout #pray < 1338872474 922305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~note altar on D:2~ < 1338872477 629454 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's probably more like how all humans inherently have a lot in common < 1338872480 788906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you were playing: hard mode < 1338872489 588450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atheist elberethless < 1338872536 301830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what!!! < 1338872543 214645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it took too long < 1338872569 889149 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgetting something due to waiting too long to say it is probably just a human thing < 1338872592 189364 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but habitually delaying saying things for too long is something else < 1338872621 868046 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338872656 800315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good corridor < 1338872672 186575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im going to do mines soon < 1338872674 352580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll be exciting! < 1338872681 470484 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my joke was: he puts the "oh man" in romance < 1338872729 808372 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help me! < 1338872742 630011 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to join one team because of the backstory, but a different team has a better logo! < 1338872748 394835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"go team a" < 1338872756 733012 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what sort of team < 1338872760 17199 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what sort of backstory < 1338872761 205776 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what sort of logo < 1338872763 277364 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, factions in Planetside < 1338872766 133991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"go team @" < 1338872783 614667 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what's that < 1338872794 541603 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, MMOFPS < 1338872804 497057 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"VANU SOVEREIGNTY A technocratic faction that believes humanity can only evolve by rediscovering and tapping the lost technology of the Vanu." < 1338872804 870677 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have a dice roller bot? < 1338872805 127099 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmofps < 1338872812 787686 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^like the backstory < 1338872816 230007 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^die roller < 1338872835 103801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: `mines time' < 1338872838 206988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: yes < 1338872839 112731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1338872839 476152 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338872841 906953 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the logos: http://www-cdn.planetside2.com/images/gameinfo/empire_Sprite.png?v=131.4 < 1338872842 166500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rolls a 1d2 < 1338872842 568733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy < 1338872844 779131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dice 1d2 < 1338872844 985401 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d2 => 2 < 1338872848 632112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also that < 1338872849 839256 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh cool thanks < 1338872859 261585 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: which of those do you like < 1338872862 65504 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From top to bottom, Terran Republic, New Conglomerate, Vanu Sovereignty < 1338872866 602737 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the NC logo < 1338872867 209485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, the invisible leprechaun's presence is known to you.--More-- < 1338872867 793008 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i suggest you first roll for initiative before rolling to determine which team < 1338872868 295975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason < 1338872893 804121 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't really played d&d though so just making this up >.< < 1338872898 321074 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the NC uniforms suck, VS logo rules < 1338872901 524043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whoaoaoh help < 1338872903 80462 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so roll on whether you should roll < 1338872903 897119 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, VS uniform rules < 1338872911 163304 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The VS logo sucks and the NC logo rules < 1338872911 865682 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: go VS < 1338872926 462630 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what did doyu DO < 1338872926 665545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: go NC < 1338872929 828365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: bat < 1338872941 610970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1338872942 861815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed by bat < 1338872945 151283 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ok look at the metadecision.. what sort of players will go with VS, and what sort of players will go with NC < 1338872958 589498 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1338872962 928054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you want me to play again < 1338872966 293397 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1338872972 871836 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NC wallpaper http://www-cdn.planetside2.com/images/media/wallpapers/2_iphone.jpg?v=131.4 VS wallpaper http://www-cdn.planetside2.com/images/media/wallpapers/3_iphone.jpg?v=131.4 < 1338872977 112505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: am i boring :( < 1338872982 314676 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see who has the better uniforms < 1338873003 972986 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nc < 1338873015 598193 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not what I was thinking < 1338873016 538683 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would the NC people be shallow to choose a team with a poor backstory? or would they simply be going with their natural instinct to like the logo? < 1338873028 61967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's vs < 1338873035 132214 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, they're "Freedom" people < 1338873047 235057 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think itidus20 has it right < 1338873049 630065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: guess who'e play again < 1338873051 335175 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would the VS people be elite snobs for choosing a team with a good backstory? or are they just good people < 1338873051 495223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ? < 1338873054 986934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hi < 1338873056 643780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i died a lot < 1338873059 225933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im playing aagain! < 1338873068 366183 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: play healer, heal squarelos, heal rocks, eat rocks < 1338873069 783318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whistle RIGHT BELOW MY STARTING SQUARE < 1338873070 110028 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, http://www.planetside2.com/overview < 1338873070 585114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: As a wizard unidentified spellbooks is safe unless they're cursed. < 1338873073 59986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`i win' < 1338873075 489086 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: i: not found < 1338873078 48022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: *are < 1338873079 192892 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scroll down to where you see the logos < 1338873083 192573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Does Hebrew not distinguish is/are?) < 1338873084 700179 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very very brief summaries of the empires < 1338873088 315813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "reading" was implied as part of your question. < 1338873101 79233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your sentence was ungrammertical. :( < 1338873111 945976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it just left some parts implied. < 1338873116 517037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the context of your question it made sense. < 1338873120 568055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that your question was hours ago. < 1338873131 671715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hebrew does distinguish. Moreover it distinguishes male "is"/"are" from female "is"/"are". < 1338873131 831831 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be one of the elite players to beta test this highly-anticipated shooter! We need your participation and feedback to make this a truly epic, genre-defining game! < 1338873143 118773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bad < 1338873144 199124 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are you elite < 1338873146 177699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, come to think of it, it doesn't have a word for "is" or "are". < 1338873151 678378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess not. < 1338873151 837762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whooops < 1338873152 856991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ate kobold < 1338873167 416781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1338873168 677537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 hp < 1338873177 707872 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer won't be able to handle it, I need a new computer. < 1338873204 573306 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, nicknames for people of each faction: < 1338873210 257991 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elmos, smurfs, barnys < 1338873221 320278 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1338873224 246130 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barneys I think < 1338873244 250643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338873277 10140 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :barnys elitest faktion < 1338873297 872638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wher's > < 1338873300 400455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: where's > < 1338873469 193807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you know what upsets me < 1338873490 587286 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338873527 173380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: pets move a bunch after you go > < 1338873528 99631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 0 turns < 1338873529 264824 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust poke http://sprunge.us/dRSQ < 1338873533 40143 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_poke: 46.8 < 1338873560 572630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see here a scroll labeled YUM YUM. < 1338873574 463930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: remember when you said "yum yum" to me < 1338873584 879901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good time for a repeat" < 1338873671 889211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is eating permafood meant to be common in nethack < 1338873674 108751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in crawl it's "bad" < 1338873687 786358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no squarelos < 1338873689 611331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to sacrifice that < 1338873692 903148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can often get by with corpses; sometimes not. < 1338873699 181673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: btw can i have details on sacrificing to get magicbane < 1338873699 790379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1338873705 853555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many corpses am i going to have to sacrifice approx. < 1338873710 869836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does the magicbanelikelihood decrease over time < 1338873714 656448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can i sacrifice corpses at my leisure < 1338873727 50512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: By early-to-mid-game you should have more permafood than you need. < 1338873734 935552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sokoban is full of it. Another reason to do sokoban first. < 1338873737 920213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define early-to-mid :P < 1338873739 534719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1338873749 551485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But Sokoban makes me intolerably bored, < 1338873749 712306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Magicbane is a guaranteed first sacrifice gift to wizards. < 1338873750 814928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bored. < 1338873777 675874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether it's early or not doesn't matter, but sacrificing increases your luck, and high luck makes it more likely to get something. < 1338873788 392063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you do a bunch of sacrifices together it's more likely to yield something? Maybe. < 1338873801 886206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly it's just chance. I've gotten it as the first sacrifice gift sometimes. < 1338873851 137758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1338873868 725912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killing monsters increases your alignment which might also have something to do with it? But presumably you're doing that anyway. < 1338873869 47482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, roughly how many corpses can I expect to sac?) < 1338873872 241180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5? 10? 50?) < 1338873876 938372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember. < 1338873881 989433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably <50. < 1338873898 862692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't break mirrors or anything like that. < 1338873984 578408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you id anything in a shop < 1338873987 879250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's a potion shope < 1338874157 594122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks shachaf < 1338874159 822128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1338874169 547034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to see something terrible, monqy < 1338874172 27871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You mean by price? < 1338874180 659435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Right. (Is price-iding dumb?) < 1338874181 343278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can only sell things that belong in that shop in that shop. < 1338874186 429171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And price-iding isn't always reliable. < 1338874195 108844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How should I id, then. :( < 1338874197 917681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm usually too lazy to do it except for things like lamps. < 1338874206 471589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "/r/haskell's current logo" http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/nb6gZnmUj6jhotix.png < 1338874249 104582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So if I'm in a potion shop and everything is just "potion", I should ignore it for now, right? :p < 1338874253 845719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note to self: It's on D:3.) < 1338874272 717048 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: barft < 1338874434 877399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how do i use whistle < 1338874444 106899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (a)pply < 1338874462 863199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why isn't apply and zap the same < 1338874467 942905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*aren't < 1338874474 848702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wear/put on < 1338874481 739823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (a)pplying a wand is for breaking it. < 1338874492 371679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dumb" - me < 1338874505 660654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"me=dumb" -- eliott < 1338874510 555042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: apparently people complained when acehack unified armour/jewellery putting-on-and-taking-off < 1338874512 366114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were the complaints < 1338874538 396543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (A) both takes off and removes < 1338874544 271685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh does it < 1338874545 471389 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I dunno < 1338874546 84227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1338874548 164617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does T exist hten < 1338874548 889530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1338874553 224782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"very dumb" - me < 1338874646 553088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "scroll of identify" < 1338874653 844195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should use it! < 1338874655 467467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i use it now < 1338874657 314621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1338874679 204853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust poke http://sprunge.us/hfcc < 1338874682 636287 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_poke: 48.3 < 1338874830 128206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tin whistle :( < 1338874918 620643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: guess waht time it is < 1338874939 192120 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what time is it < 1338874940 970237 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338874968 198300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's < 1338874970 404259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"manes time" < 1338874971 376347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mines < 1338875046 739447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ouch < 1338875049 783575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im dying < 1338875055 589281 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oupes < 1338875073 59880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cheating" < 1338875138 99298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hehehehehe i thought squarelos was < 1338875140 18801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fungus with items under it < 1338875141 767712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of crawl < 1338875485 506835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So should I be killing things and dragging them all the way to an altar? < 1338875493 14373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just saccing what I happen to kill on the level with the altar? < 1338875512 163560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Depends on what you want to do. < 1338875520 890500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get Magicbane. < 1338875542 963581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dragging things is ineffective because you only have N turns from the time they die to the time you can sacrifice them. < 1338875547 531138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1338875561 601551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can -- I don't know, do something. < 1338875573 802338 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-125-99.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1338875574 968794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe read your cursed scroll of create monster near the altar! < 1338875580 698891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll make you popular. < 1338875709 964098 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338875714 487641 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MSleep < 1338875715 533547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Rephrase: What's the usual thing to do? < 1338875990 517852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: A looking glass shatters into a thousand pieces!--More-- < 1338875994 486076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember what you said about not breaking mirrors? < 1338876023 828885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I guess "don't cast force bolt at water nymphs" would have been more useful advice? < 1338876034 276377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Do I have teleportitis. :( < 1338876041 343336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you feel jumpy? < 1338876044 192638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338876045 862055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then yes. < 1338876046 580104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very jumpy, in fact. < 1338876054 252353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I stop having teleportitis? < 1338876065 485020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better to get teleportcontrolitis. < 1338876074 285693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a ring or something for that. < 1338876087 563065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At XL 17 you get it intrinsically. < 1338876100 656895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, but I don't want to be bothered by HEY TELEPORT WHERE every N turns. < 1338876105 589909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's good to be a wzimard" < 1338876106 160301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I realise it's "optimal" in some sense.) < 1338876108 727056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's also annoying.) < 1338876121 473089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Have you experienced controlledteleportitis in NetHack? < 1338876125 379196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338876127 792603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually not that bad. < 1338876135 600606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have to decide where to teleport every ~80 turns? < 1338876141 442995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1338876145 14671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1338876145 504623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I remember it's not that bad. < 1338876153 870550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about the number 80, that is. < 1338876159 964267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Every game turn, there is a 1/85 chance you will try to teleport. This does not cost nutrition or energy. [1]" < 1338876167 790530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then, yes. < 1338876175 969071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally you're "going somewhere" anyway, so teleportitis only helps! < 1338876186 554459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very hard to lose intrinsics in NetHack. < 1338876192 80662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't have eaten that nymph! < 1338876197 32897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Did you eat a nymph?) < 1338876218 141159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im dying < 1338876220 35390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. < 1338876222 781342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im dying < 1338876223 869818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338876225 373579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now You Know. < 1338876227 707303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338876228 788936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338876229 149295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's killing you? < 1338876233 715677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingo & housecat < 1338876240 76683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teleportitis away! < 1338876248 314191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks. < 1338876250 43231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It hasn't been enough turns for that. < 1338876252 575945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack needs more chokepoints. < 1338876260 147148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can ^T, maybe? < 1338876266 448803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION connects to NAO. < 1338876273 130634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Thank you, pressing ^T just killed me. < 1338876279 64437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem! < 1338876283 238569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told you I was going to look, right? < 1338876293 755371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't tell me you were Pw:15! < 1338876295 736987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you Elbereth? < 1338876299 185074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338876301 358097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about Elbereth. < 1338876307 974406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so much like cheating that I forget it's possible. < 1338876312 25839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about Elbereth(TM). < 1338876325 871018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before your first ascension you're allowed Elbereth, like, for free, man. < 1338876331 405893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The only cure is to have it stolen by a gremlin, at night." < 1338876355 684360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You should play! < 1338876356 806773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll watch. < 1338876361 41295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy will also watch. < 1338876367 453692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK, one game. < 1338876367 970695 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1338876373 262763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have INterhacka set up here. :-( < 1338876377 363070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I play? < 1338876395 67222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUICK < 1338876396 744984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something difficult. < 1338876399 997130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try something random! < 1338876400 438409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. :-( < 1338876404 566484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'll play y < 1338876412 794736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1338876414 123618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're chaotic. < 1338876417 429679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy mode. < 1338876421 234817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also a full moon. < 1338876422 145007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELP < 1338876427 903094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately that single rectangle is the entire dungeon. < 1338876435 124871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super easy mode. < 1338876435 998418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this means you win. < 1338876473 774749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you've lost. < 1338876474 890218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg < 1338876479 186693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have automatic searching. < 1338876484 873544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'ti's''s good to be a ranger" < 1338876489 526743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's cheating! < 1338876526 956404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Player shachaf does not have any scores in the top 2000. < 1338876533 47513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "why is my font so bad " :( < 1338876541 741851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: screenshot < 1338876546 611854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I haven't played games since the Great High Score Reset of 2012-or-so. < 1338876546 771888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not as bad as mine < 1338876548 616941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do you want to see mine) < 1338876561 318557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: My font is fine except the 0 looks like a O. :-( < 1338876576 608820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you receive my mail btw < 1338876581 728378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what mail < 1338876587 102274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338876590 537524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about now < 1338876590 974921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, can I send monqy mail? < 1338876598 702931 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not playing!!! < 1338876599 643806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: my font: http://ompldr.org/vZTNpNw < 1338876607 282411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy knows my font < 1338876610 956868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy knows < 1338876611 803489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the horror < 1338876636 484076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That font looks fine. < 1338876647 973574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't. < 1338876659 503725 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338876659 662784 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1338876659 662947 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338876662 449770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's unhinted and rendered badly. < 1338876676 899427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also used to it. < 1338876729 486223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you enjoying shachaf's game i know i am < 1338876759 338731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is shachaf's first game since 2011-01 aparently! < 1338876765 870236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1338876767 395093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is? < 1338876777 154829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't emlook at my shitory!! < 1338876782 742349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :History. < 1338876793 814403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't emlook at it. < 1338876797 2197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I presume the space is part of the word.) < 1338876798 169611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The lag is too great to play NetHack. :-(( < 1338876809 456108 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338876810 382853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That just means you get to think more every turn. < 1338876812 318440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you die less! < 1338876817 327086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned that from shachaf. < 1338876819 786157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want to die. :-( < 1338876826 763856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! < 1338876827 847508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't listen to anything shachaf tells youa bout NetHack. < 1338876828 675189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want to win. < 1338876848 990775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the round-trip latency is about 3 seconds now. < 1338876850 771644 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338876855 990794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What continent are you even in? < 1338876872 976142 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-WHY < 1338876874 701172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :East America. < 1338876890 336482 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY would anyone think that "publically traded" == "anyone can see your information" < 1338876893 763969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The problem is on my side.) < 1338876894 763700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1338876904 572747 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thatsnonsense.com/view.php?id=1563 < 1338876916 241069 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just saw two FB friends post the piece of silliness < 1338876918 519323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, this latency is too great to play. < 1338876925 569322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION saves. < 1338876938 716118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You planned this from the start! < 1338876942 761725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hope you enjoyed that" < 1338876954 44914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nope! It's a tragtedy. < 1338876960 323874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back to Psychonauts! < 1338877005 426019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'll farm some puddings for you. < 1338877015 212949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew. < 1338877018 834579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't pudding farm! < 1338877024 516426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: FOR YOU. < 1338877024 676700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't farm pudding! < 1338877030 829884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be unhappy and not farm puddings if you played more. < 1338877041 264683 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gimmick! is a fucking awesome game. It is also psychotically hard. < 1338877071 822424 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And does things I thought impossible on the NES. < 1338877104 649045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know I once watched Wooble farm puddings on the planes? < 1338877112 805794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To sacrifice. Or something. < 1338877194 406406 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what should I wish for? < 1338877203 944497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: rae you playing < 1338877205 390938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so where < 1338877212 982656 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm standing on the altar on Astral < 1338877216 310657 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want something cool < 1338877220 653100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1338877221 593396 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a wish and probably another one too < 1338877223 77101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you playing < 1338877223 621605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1338877224 529502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :server < 1338877227 381753 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nh4 < 1338877230 152469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wait < 1338877231 193245 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't watch :( < 1338877231 547768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme connect < 1338877232 965969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna see < 1338877234 774916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1338877235 197938 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't < 1338877235 858852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1338877237 666222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: screenshot? < 1338877239 944161 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my replay is busted < 1338877241 118062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's "good enough" < 1338877250 814480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1338877253 736929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "something cool" < 1338877257 9044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :include "stupid joke wish" < 1338877259 60636 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338877276 9760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: blessed greased fixed slime mold < 1338877277 240118 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust poke http://sprunge.us/GBCZ < 1338877280 526595 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_poke: 48.4 < 1338877287 119647 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... seems too pedestrian < 1338877289 18934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: (are you going to be the first NH4 ascension?) < 1338877307 120323 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly not :( < 1338877327 122771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: 57.4 blessed greased fixed +9 slime molds of love called hungerbane < 1338877351 973445 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i;l play neth ack now < 1338877371 412191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i will watch < 1338877371 775871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1338877372 859719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :steal my rc < 1338877376 832785 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good < 1338877377 212557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "conservative" < 1338877379 708831 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i steal < 1338877382 264029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1338877388 29291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to http://alt.org/nethack/webconf/nhrc_edit.php < 1338877390 28202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enter yr details < 1338877391 493288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll sprunge mine < 1338877405 926561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://sprunge.us/iSHU < 1338877420 95604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns on gold autopickup, names yr cat squarelos < 1338877425 806967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can name your cat anything you want instead) < 1338877428 335834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(perhaps "elliott") < 1338877432 443485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does statuscolors < 1338877434 710995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*statuscolours < 1338877436 930255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doe smenucolours < 1338877445 239788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :puts --more--s on bad things < 1338877456 648257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shows buc < 1338877458 311634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much it < 1338877463 736306 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok playeing < 1338877465 942613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and requires "yes" instead of "y" for some scary things < 1338877466 102465 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i play ! < 1338877466 646675 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I know. < 1338877473 779945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what should monqy play < 1338877474 707445 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what I will wish for < 1338877480 601065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you know MuCK in crawl < 1338877480 838851 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it becomes safe to connect to my game again < 1338877485 963091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the equivalent of MuCK in NetHack < 1338877513 793096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "n e way" if you want ~easy melee~ you can play valkyrie dwarf < 1338877518 527280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(`the mdfi of nethack' - me, just now) < 1338877525 741983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :play a wizard! they're fun! < 1338877535 945823 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want shachaf's xpert opinion < 1338877536 816700 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1338877541 132375 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: xpert opinion pls < 1338877552 574210 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's probably ascended < 1338877553 224496 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1338877555 155456 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a billion times < 1338877560 939426 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more than both of us put together < 1338877565 361352 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he knows what he's talking about < 1338877566 478935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's ascended < 1338877568 369506 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or he would < 1338877571 772802 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he was talking!! < 1338877579 8188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 times < 1338877588 647698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 has ascended none and played 2 (joke is he doesn't play on NAO) < 1338877627 915135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nethack is weird just play a valkyrie or a wizard < 1338877636 670290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a caveman < 1338877637 757989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a tourist < 1338877639 203549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a ranger < 1338877642 869482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a knight < 1338877644 148923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a samuri < 1338877647 157076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~it doesn't really matter~ < 1338877647 403875 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hit random < 1338877653 758647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338877655 808175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1338877658 470599 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338877665 748486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you end up with a dwarf valkyrie with random??? < 1338877674 92615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you hit random after picking those < 1338877674 252138 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338877680 806711 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:27:45 did you end up with a dwarf valkyrie with random??? < 1338877681 7134 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:27:53 yes < 1338877681 218625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1338877683 568403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338877685 488412 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to write menucolors for nh4 < 1338877686 456490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1338877712 342172 :PatashuXantheres!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338877718 698630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: (nothing autopickups except gold) < 1338877724 601526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but there's less floor trash than crawl so) < 1338877726 43647 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338877737 15457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's a fountain < 1338877740 450840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"quaff it" < 1338877754 28374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no don't < 1338877757 199487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't quaff the fountain, < 1338877760 148944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1338877760 713650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1338877782 458647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nice eyesight < 1338877816 702697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: xpert opinion on what < 1338877826 350120 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what to play < 1338877835 517869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: dwarf valkyrie < 1338877847 313437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what is the nethack equivalent of muck < 1338877857 130028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depdends < 1338877859 37785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what is muck" < 1338877874 709889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've played kock but not muck. shame. shame on you. < 1338877886 526776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: stope < 1338877886 885784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mummy chaos knight. mummy, wroships xom < 1338877888 428026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't look at my history! < 1338877894 320178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mummy chaos knight. mummy, wroships xom < 1338877902 103878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't look at my history! < 1338877912 308714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is bad because xom likes to confuse you < 1338877914 325977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mummies can't quaff < 1338877919 856536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they have "great fun" getting out of confusion < 1338877926 637745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's bad in a beautiful way which monqy is probably better at articulating than i am < 1338877935 710273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1338877935 869657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i like how your cat is named squarelos and also you are named squarelos < 1338877955 635529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: stop fighting while < 1338877956 412693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fainting < 1338877961 771843 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does food work < 1338877962 155301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: remember #pray < 1338877963 698575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "s q u a r e l o s e p t i o n" " reddit mode" < 1338877969 411351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you eat food < 1338877972 485793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you get less hungry < 1338877973 923853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you're fainting < 1338877975 984797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pass out every few turns < 1338877985 678235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so don't do that!!! < 1338877985 837861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO'S THE xpert NOW? < 1338877988 242566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't be weak either < 1338877990 332264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott++ # xpert < 1338877991 65240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you really need food pray < 1338877992 869002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338877993 816611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im xpert < 1338878001 73695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so what's the nethack equivalent of muck!!! < 1338878068 289576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wow do you play every game this stupidly fast < 1338878081 637880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice chest-ignoring < 1338878086 188920 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats achest < 1338878106 969813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#loot < 1338878113 238223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you shattered the things ha ha < 1338878120 937783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!nick chestpickerupperers monqy < 1338878128 314771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:34 monqy: wow do you play every game this stupidly fast < 1338878139 589934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is stupidly fast? < 1338878141 485898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stone to flesh, monqy < 1338878142 790782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stone to flesh < 1338878146 585184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it is < 1338878147 123511 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont have enough pw < 1338878220 744159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i was saying < 1338878221 868392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupidly fast < 1338878222 112972 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much damage do those jerks do < 1338878224 513846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :emphasis on stupid < 1338878224 673783 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know when to heal < 1338878230 526807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe you should look it up!!! < 1338878230 971991 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasnt fast at all dummy !!! i just dove a bit < 1338878234 314044 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont want to < 1338878239 518875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you'll die < 1338878240 654724 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also dont want to not dive < 1338878241 71750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots < 1338878250 357121 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then i dont want to not die < 1338878260 791028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not diving! < 1338878265 868906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diving would be digging for victory or w/e < 1338878270 899212 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt have a wand < 1338878285 667024 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not playing nethack seriously i thought you understood this < 1338878287 316208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use a pick < 1338878303 352763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe you didn't understand that your requirement to play was a serious one! < 1338878311 777538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that requirement??? < 1338878314 978336 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then this sucks and i'm not playing < 1338878324 125267 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you understood i didn't want to play nethack seriously < 1338878328 626394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't subvert a requirement! < 1338878332 31906 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338878332 633772 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can < 1338878333 369212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they overcome wishes < 1338878334 879858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338878336 365724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will die < 1338878337 990855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in real life < 1338878340 598505 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok < 1338878380 925470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you know how to dig for victory there's a "great article on it" < 1338878386 70749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i dont know < 1338878390 72223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just < 1338878390 964606 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :digging < 1338878391 123950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Digging_for_victory "now you know" < 1338878395 905849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i < 1338878398 156485 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont want to know < 1338878414 247284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have no choice! < 1338878419 383547 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338878419 948170 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1338878420 353817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god has decided < 1338878422 358049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338878457 395826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to join #nethack and tell everyone to look at this person called squarelos < 1338878459 416646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they will all laugh < 1338878460 506201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :behind your back < 1338878463 49117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in front of your back < 1338878465 451420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you will be surrounded) < 1338878474 718320 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun ruined < 1338878503 606661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what fun" < 1338878516 355110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: anyway now you have to play more < 1338878517 615149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :them's the rules < 1338878529 660468 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338878544 966294 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338879352 30174 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338879364 966898 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338879365 526655 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: woot < 1338879373 749914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what did you wish for btw < 1338879374 678980 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: im #1 < 1338879375 374825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and congrats < 1338879382 899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many runes (laughs) < 1338879383 228850 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :blessed fixed greased +3 dunce cap < 1338879402 26413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+3? more like -3 < 1338879418 89860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blessed fixed greased +3 fake plastic imitation of the amulet of yendor < 1338879424 236067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self: wish for that sometime < 1338879489 421820 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: already had a fpiotaoy < 1338879493 920394 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno where I got it < 1338879501 449476 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there it was < 1338879504 603458 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do want it, yes? < 1338879505 562194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but was it blessed fixed greased +3 < 1338879510 47169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1338879511 8832 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really will keep it < 1338879513 545404 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do want it, yes? < 1338879519 355476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you won already < 1338879529 264315 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I'm making a pokemon reference < 1338879534 522629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1338879541 59135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im tired and its been years since i played pokemon!!! < 1338879565 406638 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think I got all the words wrong < 1338879571 664559 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the thought that counts though < 1338879756 266585 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(go see my #1 ascension, it's glorious) < 1338879769 898521 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't try to watch the replay < 1338879772 198306 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i's broken < 1338879841 913925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :howso < 1338879848 240112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also im not watching your entire game unless its short sorry < 1338879856 940060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only roguelike recordings i watch multiple hours of are monqy's < 1338879891 198208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you should play my roguelike it's "great" - testimony by me < 1338880211 848164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I like that "bug fix" in the modified C Deadfish interpreter. < 1338880212 61367 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338880975 347217 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only now processing in my mind that everyone seems to be getting into the "radical UI redesign" thing, not just GNOME and Ubuntu < 1338880983 225707 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by that, I mean that Windows is doing it < 1338881046 584124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im radcial ui design - ME < 1338881048 207938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1338881065 911119 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XFCE ain't. < 1338881250 226698 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheers from Beijing, everybody. < 1338881250 449285 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1338881251 644042 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will continue running TDE as long as I'm able < 1338881253 901027 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1338881254 112380 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 13h 14m 4s ago: *stab stabbity stab* < 1338881260 642849 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That's not very nice :( < 1338881378 169398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Gregor *hi hiity hi* < 1338881378 378389 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338881392 595072 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1338881392 809666 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf asked 14s ago: *hi hiity hi* < 1338881399 721755 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ****** ***? < 1338881429 141373 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Exactly. < 1338881434 940018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "Gregor" is a much better nick than "Friendship". < 1338881451 686971 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not a nick, it's my bloody name X-D < 1338881461 765553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338881465 731756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your regular name? < 1338881467 75820 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: **** ****** :) < 1338881479 79154 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I'm connected via an SSH tunnel ;) < 1338881527 480778 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thinking.. that way if people start talking about t squares, you don't disappear < 1338881535 611975 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh < 1338881653 615679 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-175.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338881844 959564 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you find the pony factory, please buy me a derpy ;) < 1338881872 712180 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1338881992 327148 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow, having fun? < 1338882011 895491 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm rediscovering the fun of being stared at by everyone. < 1338882030 926030 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And enjoying how stupidly inexpensive everything is. < 1338882060 822763 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the food? < 1338882080 857578 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheap ;) < 1338882093 29932 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No complaints. I'm not blown away, but I haven't really gone anywhere that I expect to blow me away. < 1338882111 329913 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to a beef noodle place and got the most expensive item on the menu. < 1338882114 514482 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roughly $5.50 < 1338882120 391857 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh, you're in 北京? Fun. < 1338882121 874694 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1338882129 264628 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Imma 漢字 at you a bit. < 1338882129 986182 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1338882170 181402 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: *shakes fist* < 1338882189 573880 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Beijing" and "hanzi", respectively, BTW. < 1338882201 342137 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: And my dinner the previous night came out to a grand total of $5. < 1338882225 102861 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about hotels? cheap also? < 1338882225 980100 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Pekin" and "kanji" in Japanese, if you must have that, too) < 1338882337 353803 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, there seems to be no way from outside of a restaurant to determine if they have an English menu. < 1338882365 902191 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuredly the staff won't speak English, but I can point at the menu and they can write down the total price and point at that, but all that still needs an English menu to start with X-D < 1338882465 971988 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think I could go to a Thai restaurant, poorly mispronounce the Thai name for something, and still get it? :) < 1338882511 929755 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"英語単菜?" I think would work, but I make no guarantees of that being correct Mandarin. < 1338882535 955029 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it is definitely wrong mainland Mandarin, because I don't know how to enter simplified glyphs. < 1338882547 92147 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can google goggles translate chinese? < 1338882555 517933 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, maybe? < 1338882567 561203 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's a thought ... that requires net though, right? < 1338882572 350143 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338882577 461261 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it can't for me :) < 1338882581 773998 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338882643 68798 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Translate suggests it's "英文菜単", which makes sense. < 1338882669 535482 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yīngwén càidān", Mandarin reading... < 1338882689 88292 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eibun saitan", Japanese. < 1338882696 779321 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"English dishes radiolabeling" < 1338882714 733065 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1338882728 743675 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I don't know how to interpret the answer to that, since in Mandarin/Chinese you answer "yes" by repeating the verb and there's no verb there. < 1338882756 965465 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1338882783 994730 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nǐ yǒu yīngwén càidān ma? < 1338882787 474843 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems about right. < 1338882874 32639 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. 你有英文菜単吗? < 1338882901 76033 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1338882907 292298 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang I could learn Mandarin quickly. :P < 1338882928 23028 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just learned two new words, woooh X-D < 1338882999 208022 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1338883031 802066 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And further demonstrates my ability to vaguely fake understanding written Chinese just by knowing that Chinese is SVO, not SOV. < 1338883036 375804 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the survey says: google goggles fails at recognizing chinese characters < 1338883082 292011 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The relationship between Chinese and Japanese is truly strange. < 1338883112 348269 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of very similar words afaik < 1338883142 580349 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It's basically the relationship between Latin and English. < 1338883165 761466 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Except *Japanese* is the one with the more complicated grammar. < 1338883215 810689 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :そうだな。。。 < 1338883233 504178 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FYI, that sentence in Japanese would be "貴方は英語のメニューが有りますか。", "anata wa eigo no menyū ga arimasu ka." < 1338883274 12253 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 日本語ができますか。 < 1338883281 788325 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, you might say it more casually as "英語のメニューが有る?", "eigo no menyū ga aru?") < 1338883286 189954 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Idonno, the fact that it's a logography instead of an alphabet makes it seem stranger to me. < 1338883287 460474 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: うん、出来る。 < 1338883338 940121 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: On the part of Chinese, it's a bit more like a syllabary that's got logographic elements... < 1338883360 557894 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Each glyph maps to a syllable, and (almost) all morphemes are single syllables. < 1338883362 716355 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh really? < 1338883373 302487 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is not the case in Japanese) < 1338883415 647309 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, there are words formed of multiple symbols of which the individual symbols may themselves be unrelated words? < 1338883427 88313 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least in principle, if not necessarily in practice) < 1338883435 493737 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes ;) < 1338883437 438868 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1338883446 639516 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though they're rare and edge cases, from what I understand of Chinese, *yes*. < 1338883449 286936 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :日 <- day. 日本 <- japan. 本 <- book < 1338883468 230774 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worse, there's a couple that are composed of characters that are *never used outside of that specific word*. < 1338883469 735499 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I had no idea. That's like Ancient Egyptian, actually. < 1338883472 756205 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in Chinese) < 1338883475 47194 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they are pronunced differently ;) < 1338883477 114086 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, precisely. < 1338883484 772815 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese gets things much more confusing. < 1338883515 190087 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They take each glyph's semantic components and fudge it to apply to Japanese. And then borrow a lot of words from Chinese, and write them as the Chinese would. < 1338883540 129631 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Over the course of centuries, with Japanese *and* Chinese pronunciation changing over time. < 1338883575 990426 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, where Chinese has each glyph mapping to a single syllable, Japanese has each glyph mapping to anywhere from 1 to 10 different *strings*. < 1338883651 402483 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :上 is perhaps the worst. ue, noboru, nobori, agaru, ageru, jou... Those are just the readings off the top of my head. < 1338883744 563652 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, that character just means "up". < 1338883865 118519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Why doesn't NetHack have Crawl's 5? < 1338883870 322965 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dictionary suggests: agari, -agari, agaru, -agaru, ageru, -ageru, ue, -ue, uwa-, kami, nobosu, noboseru, nobori, noboru, yosu, shan, shou, jou, aoi, age, i, ka, kaki, kazu, kan, kou, hotsu. < 1338883885 108467 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(everything after "jou" is name-only, though) < 1338884046 811969 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338884053 578284 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338884056 831255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338884063 580152 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :上がり、上がる、上げる、上、上、上、上す、上せる、上り、上る、上す、上、上、上、上、上、上、上、上、上、上、上、上、上、上 written in kanji & kana... < 1338884066 110939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You read: "Someone once ? id th?t wh?t gces up < right c?me cc?n >".--More-- < 1338884090 220712 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not? < 1338884096 658981 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, nethack or crawl? < 1338884100 268439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack < 1338884125 27851 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to remember what that is about, haven't played nethack for ages < 1338884139 952272 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you find it? tombstone? < 1338884149 299280 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And there's *only one reading of that in Mandarin*! This makes me weep tears of joy. < 1338884159 107225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Just on the floor, I think. < 1338884169 283935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired. :( < 1338884183 660191 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1338884198 669226 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What's Crawl's 5? < 1338884219 292121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It rests for 100 turns, or until something happens (where "something happens" includes "full MP/HP"). < 1338884239 165776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just press it and your HP zooms up; it rarely takes more than three presses to get it up unless you're disturbed or poisoned. < 1338884253 484317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With NetHack I have to press 50. a lot and it goes so slowly and wastes time after I end up at full HP. :( < 1338884274 11772 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't NetHack have something like that with 5. or was it ADOM or what that had the convenient 5 < 1338884285 203200 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :patch nethack to fix it? < 1338884286 409453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :5. would rest for five turns < 1338884294 151484 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numpad 5 < 1338884329 337948 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some roguelike you can press e.g. 56 on the numpad and it goes east until it sees something new... it's probably NH or ADOM but I forget which. < 1338884420 620833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Numpad 5 does not exist. < 1338884427 567051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, that's shift+direction < 1338884433 156009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :H goes left a bunch, et.c < 1338884434 241297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*etc. < 1338884437 820102 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably ADOM then. < 1338884441 52742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift-. is of course >. < 1338884471 398332 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338884525 818440 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, are you playing on nao? < 1338884535 78944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I just died. But now I'm playing again. < 1338884561 964473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, squarelos died *already*? < 1338884562 205645 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, name? < 1338884565 931854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ehird. < 1338884569 257726 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1338884629 651262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP squarelos, killed by a dart. < 1338884808 909833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice pick. < 1338884945 697217 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, hungry < 1338884953 278851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops? < 1338884965 641465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually don't bother worrying about hunger until I end up weak. < 1338884968 751325 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay < 1338884971 774667 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-150-248.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338884978 80011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although being satiated is nice. < 1338884982 262975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1338884982 422645 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1338884986 971347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot you're not meant to eat dogs or cats. < 1338884988 235752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1338885091 153359 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, the mines < 1338885106 862436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're less boring than the dungeon. < 1338885114 559058 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1338885146 535254 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-141-144.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338885163 181352 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, aiee, don't pick up unidentified gray stones < 1338885169 654917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. < 1338885171 9450 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be a loadstone < 1338885172 180460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a gem. < 1338885179 8495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of unobservant. < 1338885195 975492 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :being unobservant is lethal in nethac < 1338885198 161301 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack* < 1338885219 242515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rather suspect it's the only thing that is lethal. < 1338885247 226086 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1338885250 195852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Can I get away with skipping Sokoban? < 1338885269 225819 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to do sokoban, but it is actually not that hard IMO < 1338885277 704948 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is kind of useful to do < 1338885278 139874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not hard, it's just boring. I use spoilers. < 1338885308 126755 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338885327 378786 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why are you playing wiz? < 1338885334 58362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1338885337 552215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to cast spells. < 1338885339 81588 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1338885353 331681 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you are < 1338885364 844635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing my god loves me < 1338885368 57233 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I wasn't watching, what did you eat? < 1338885379 214012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome corpse, but I had just done 50. a bunch to restore points first < 1338885385 234645 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338885427 459088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mines have a lot better layout than the dungeon. < 1338885441 162547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two nymphs? Come on. < 1338885445 448522 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch yeah < 1338885451 572085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Squarelos!!! < 1338885454 846733 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1338885465 18407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My cat. < 1338885468 343251 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is it a bone level? < 1338885472 819502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got down here somehow. < 1338885475 527280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Oh, quite likely. < 1338885476 702815 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it died? < 1338885480 624127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it did. < 1338885494 181620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, my cat's ghost is seriously about to kill me. < 1338885497 609414 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1338885514 415248 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, one of those scrolls could probably save you < 1338885521 227536 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who knows which one < 1338885529 331849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My potion of healing saved me. :p < 1338885533 502523 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah that too < 1338885541 903307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I used a consumable; that means I've lost.) < 1338885550 852885 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1338885565 797691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every consumable you use means you've done something wrong. In good games, at least. < 1338885570 79743 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1338885574 143070 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1338885574 640276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I died. < 1338885581 150848 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :id stuff please < 1338885584 438732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should have dug for victory. < 1338885584 701462 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1338885589 730165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. < 1338885592 840731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skipped it before you said that. < 1338885593 620 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1338885596 144922 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338885601 169416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be in the file, no? < 1338885611 222991 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, trying to remember the url though < 1338885647 695826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alt.org/nethack/player-all.php?player=ehird < 1338885648 779338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1338885650 820965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why isn't it listed? < 1338885662 859091 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338885670 229069 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :found the dumplog < 1338885678 716357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alt.org/nethack/userdata/e/ehird/dumplog/1338884538.nh343.txt < 1338885679 430528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here. < 1338885681 668958 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338885688 842587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : H - an uncursed worthless piece of red glass < 1338885689 555974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1338885714 85725 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did the gray stone go? < 1338885743 990148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dropped it. < 1338885757 940489 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so not a loadstone (or a blessed one when you picked it up) < 1338885776 457477 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I like the "You were lucky (1) You are dead" < 1338885803 727773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know I played NetHack six times on 2012-04-15, and don't remember it in the slightest? < 1338885812 171434 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338885824 466528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I just checked http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2012-04-15. < 1338885827 178094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sleep-deprived. < 1338885829 24949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That explains it. < 1338885868 397683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Anyway, NetHack is boring. < 1338885895 8288 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1338885905 810368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All you have to do is repeatedly do the obvious thing and double-check everything at each step so you don't make a mistake out of boredom. < 1338885907 859275 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, I haven't played it in over a year now < 1338885914 62939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, this might be less true later on.) < 1338885918 563677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I'm too bored to get there.) < 1338885924 80962 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338885964 955448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Crawl more, even though its earlygame is even worse. < 1338885973 513966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it practically automates it for you. < 1338885983 683352 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, haven't got around to playing crawl yet < 1338886012 37180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a bunch of crappy flaws and the earlygame is awful and there's lots of stupid things. < 1338886024 238074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it's way too long. < 1338886030 59468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's fun, approx. from the first rune onwards. < 1338886035 473460 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1338886050 543297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crawl Light is better except for the ways in which it's worse, although I'm trying to correct those by prodding dtsund. < 1338886069 796965 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1338886078 330152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Anyway, if you do play Crawl, CDO has low lag in Europe. < 1338886091 648065 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1338886101 601126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, the default settings are basically reasonable; you don't need to tweak them. And don't play hugeterm.) < 1338886110 771306 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally start playing locally while I'm learning the game < 1338886121 821766 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugeterm? < 1338886130 67315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugeterm = terminal larger than 80x24. < 1338886134 266956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messes up ttyrecs. Is uncool. < 1338886140 523723 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like large terms < 1338886145 438388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tough. < 1338886148 462847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Increase your font size. < 1338886159 993819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your LOS is limited enough that it doesn't help you at all in Crawl, anyway. < 1338886163 88402 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in many chars wide / high < 1338886166 618944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the message list is several lines long anyway.) < 1338886169 688699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Tough. < 1338886182 500501 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I doubt I will have time to play crawl any time soon < 1338886191 582701 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw seen the last humble bundle? It is quite amazing < 1338886202 338075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, don't play Crawl if you're going to use hugeterm. < 1338886230 19612 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :amnesia, limbo, bastion, psychonauts and some game I forgot the name of < 1338886237 24211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen the bundle. < 1338886240 860504 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1338886284 566580 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I owned bastion before already, excellent game. Bought the bundle because I wanted Psyconauts. Which turned out to be just as awesome as I had heard it was. < 1338886392 587837 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I need to leave, bye. Will be back in the afternoon < 1338886393 267248 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya < 1338886406 644617 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ^ < 1338886415 838769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1338886420 558620 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1338888702 164395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"psychonauts = awesomenauts" - Vorpal < 1338888900 193124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "which it is \"btw\"" < 1338888907 640894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338888917 148523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psychonauts. < 1338888923 402069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the future. < 1338888936 423122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338888946 932541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover knows. < 1338888968 182566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover can't play Psychonauts. < 1338888984 305172 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1338888985 919115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why "knot" < 1338889031 239333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Hey, what attributes can a cell have with standard ANSI stuff? < 1338889039 67253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colour, bold/high intensity, what else? < 1338889047 233777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess italic? At least, some terminals can do italic. < 1338889050 356091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is inverted an attribute? < 1338889056 623657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338889061 664438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think blink is too. < 1338889064 535206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, background colour, of course. (Which can also be high intensity? I guess that's an attribute of the colour, rather than of the glyph itself.) < 1338889078 508002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I know that high intensity backgrounds show as bright for some and blinking for others. < 1338889081 354366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANSI < 1338889083 795036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess they're represented by the same thing(?) < 1338889099 802382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you know what they say. < 1338889103 614892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII silly question, get a silly ANSI. < 1338889104 605015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think blink is its own thing? < 1338889122 817966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you ask that question just to say that? < 1338889128 155470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, no points. < 1338889145 515140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338889149 8162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually implementing it now. < 1338889152 847988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Cell = Cell < 1338889153 33204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : { cellGlyph :: Char < 1338889153 191569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : , } < 1338889154 473555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data View = View < 1338889156 468147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : { viewSize :: Point < 1338889158 554087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : , viewOld :: Vector Cell(Char, Attribute) < 1338889160 542442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1338889162 527536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1338889166 416114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my editor window right now. < 1338889179 746439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean I get points? < 1338889199 561093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, < 1338889205 254513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you doing. :"(() < 1338889214 342736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing my simultaneous-turn roguelike. < 1338889216 393493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Why can't you play Psychonauts? < 1338889217 420833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't want to use curses. < 1338889236 364893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Can you do the display part as a completely separate program, please? < 1338889237 524480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, floating point exception if I talk to Oleander right at the start. < 1338889245 515898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the nethack-emacs thing. < 1338889248 332509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Which version? < 1338889276 593250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I will be fully separating display and what-you-can-see calculation (in fact, I've devoted a lot of thought to ways to do that nicely); however, I don't really feel like limiting my communication methods to text. < 1338889278 219104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the @ inside me. < 1338889285 381585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they'll be linked into the same binary, because Unix can't do anything else. < 1338889293 666313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But in @, of course...) < 1338889303 557319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack-emacs does S-expressions? < 1338889310 294380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, by "text" I mean "bytes".) < 1338889311 286743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's, like, totally not text. < 1338889313 131343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Serialised as bytes. < 1338889325 503488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(De)serialisation code is a kludge. < 1338889335 221289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too lazy for that shit, man. < 1338889344 403685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as much of a kludge as LINKING IT INTO THE SAME BINARY. < 1338889359 872466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, where does it give the version? < 1338889364 108326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you write everything in shell, then, if linking is too much coupling for you? < 1338889366 118096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, "as they say on the internet", "baking it in" < 1338889368 469309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The version is whatever comes with the HB. < 1338889369 720865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, what platform? < 1338889394 639537 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338889395 757545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The point is, don't make it NetHack, OK? < 1338889396 269243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: My Real Roguelike will have a machine-readable-and-writable kludge UI for bots. < 1338889398 647405 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... I'm running it on Arch, if that's what you mean? < 1338889405 154327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this isn't going to be my Real Roguelike. < 1338889410 32849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, there's your problem. < 1338889412 645216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is just an experiment. < 1338889416 793746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should run it on Windows. < 1338889419 483311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION solves problem. < 1338889426 581960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might end up doing the simultaneous-turn thing in my Real Roguelike. < 1338889428 567059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But most likely not. < 1338889433 822622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Have I told you about the simultaneous-turn thing? < 1338889437 889669 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't wanna use Windoooowws < 1338889439 428794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338889441 558514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: (Seriously though, you should try it on Windows. It works for Skyrim.) < 1338889443 793087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now is too late for that. < 1338889448 246375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Tough! < 1338889454 588230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK, so, you know in roguelikes, you and monsters get turns in a round-robin sort of order thing? < 1338889456 315991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, seriously. I'm going to sleep. < 1338889461 500795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when you do something, every other monster gets to see what you did? < 1338889464 747563 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, eventually when I feel like using Windows again < 1338889464 930594 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338889466 388207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hold that thought, dawg" < 1338889471 608883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Imagine if, instead, everybody decided on their turn simultaneously. < 1338889480 973102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, for instance, you could sidestep ranged attacks on the same turn they're made. < 1338889488 669993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have a chance of dodging melee attacks by moving during combat. < 1338889491 725155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK? < 1338889501 179292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have two offensive explody spells collide in midair. < 1338889502 13524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've imagined it. < 1338889505 409139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now what? < 1338889508 297340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the power of SIMULTANEOUS-TURN ROGUELIKES! < 1338889515 355075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like fun. So I'm writing a little roguelike to test it out. < 1338889518 380669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To see if it's fun. < 1338889520 548659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it will be. < 1338889532 907284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's also a pain to code, because you have to handle all these interactions of simultaneous actions. < 1338889540 625291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's pretty much all. < 1338889567 553514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The monsters are now totally exposed to the power of the simultaneous-turn roguelike. < 1338889575 609566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that bad. :( < 1338889603 604042 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe if I make it use the system libSDL and libopenal. < 1338889627 798389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Psychonauts is, like, worth it, man. < 1338889635 943165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Have you played Psychonauts? < 1338889641 746866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338889650 263057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone told you what a depressing game it was? < 1338889662 86405 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first impressions weren't great, but that was mainly just because I thought the interface was clumsily diegetic. < 1338889672 222526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, the interface is terrible. < 1338889680 228495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you have to get past the first few worlds before it gets interesting. < 1338889733 773050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you should do it anyway. < 1338889795 666468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I bet Psychonauts isn't as good as Rayman 2. < 1338889805 977316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I bet you're wrong. < 1338889820 948074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? No. Rayman 2 is ~the best 3D platforming game of all time. < 1338889825 61332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, do you mean as a game or as an "experience"? < 1338889825 323729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on. < 1338889831 184768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference? < 1338889835 499503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've never played Rayman 2, but I don't like 3D platformers much. < 1338889846 239788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rayman 2 is Different. < 1338889849 557414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's different because it's good.) < 1338889855 619671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what else is different? < 1338889857 489053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psychonauts. < 1338889871 357525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Psychonauts: It's different" < 1338889894 57057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Rayman 3 is also Different! And good. (Possibly a better game? But a less... I don't know the word.)) < 1338889908 682463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's better as a game but perhaps less impressive as an experience, I guess. Your terminology wins.) < 1338889912 133606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am defeated.) < 1338889914 374727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you get the HB thing? < 1338889917 537583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not yet. < 1338889918 317182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will. < 1338889957 115003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1338889984 97015 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a cheapskate. < 1338890007 835486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Er, the average is probably going to go up over time from now. < 1338890012 586795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'll end up paying more. < 1338890026 148832 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why the hell have you not bought it. < 1338890063 14288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because why bother? < 1338890069 318802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll buy it later when the whim takes me. < 1338890080 927675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't feel like cheapskating this one, anyway. < 1338890085 765624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick whim < 1338890120 190758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code#CSI_codes guurhg < 1338890146 16950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just wait until you hear about "the other" escape codes. < 1338890158 708958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Which are those? < 1338890172 410624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the xterm ones. < 1338890177 208181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the ones used for the mouse. < 1338890184 754786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Good thing I don't care about the mouse! < 1338890210 623023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for a good time echo -e '\e(0'" < 1338890215 572780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is there a library you can link with that lets you output ANSI stuff and it displays in an SDL window stuff? < 1338890222 15083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*window thing? < 1338890224 826662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't know. < 1338890229 377695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be nice. For running on platforms without convenient terminal things. < 1338890229 593755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you have the good time yet? < 1338890235 190919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good time? < 1338890236 275706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338890237 319649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try it. < 1338890246 579271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash-3.2$ echo -e '\e(0' < 1338890246 739218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\e(0 < 1338890247 758750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disappointing. < 1338890252 894640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong echo. < 1338890274 106283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for a good time echo $'\e(0'" < 1338890281 609528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better? < 1338890282 555721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash-3.2$ printf '\e(0' < 1338890282 737420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :␉▒⎽␤-3.2$ < 1338890282 897602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :␉▒⎽␤-3.2$ A␤ ≤␊⎽, ├␤␋⎽ ├␤␋┼±. < 1338890284 7637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :␉▒⎽␤: A␤: ␌⎺└└▒┼␍ ┼⎺├ °⎺┤┼␍ < 1338890286 536485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Ah yes, this thing.") < 1338890302 181395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the line-drawing thing! < 1338890309 514086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect for drawing the walls of a dungeon in NetHack. < 1338890317 151234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Or you could just: use Unicode! < 1338890357 526027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just so you know, your paste messed up my IRC client. < 1338890359 889291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thanks paste" < 1338890365 209768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/clear < 1338890376 780220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1338890440 261988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Play Psychonauts and then tell me whether Rayman 2 is better. < 1338890446 142188 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Play is generally turnbased in abstract chess(what i called it before i learned fairy chess existed). A way to have simultaneous movement however is for each player to write down their move and present them together." < 1338890461 832311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but Rayman 2 has childhood and nostalgia on its side. < 1338890465 477617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is I'll make serious consideration to acquire it and play it. < 1338890475 162765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hah! Psychonauts doesn't! < 1338890476 560762 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Any conflicts could be resolved by repeating the process. repeated conflicts could be resolved by banning that move for all teams." < 1338890484 793631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. So it'll probably lose :) < 1338890498 647333 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that last sentence sounds like nonsense actually < 1338890514 319661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: (Honestly, Rayman 2's gameplay is pretty simple. But it's fun.) < 1338890540 58263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Rayman 3's is more elaborate and probably funner, but Rayman 2 has more nostalgia on its side.) < 1338890540 977951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I mean, for me. < 1338890548 779829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1338890563 27264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I talk about how it's good even though I only played it within the last few years at most. < 1338890631 261020 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so, i mean if one was playing a multiplayer roguelike.. each player would write down their move and pass it to an independant game master, who would announce the outcome of that turn < 1338890647 731664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, I mean... I only played Rayman 2 in like... god, I forget years. < 1338890654 348704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I only played Rayman 3 in like 2003! Or 2004. < 1338890669 23925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's, like, three, uh, nine years ag— WOW nine fucking years?? Jesus fucking christ < 1338890679 345813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck the planet < 1338890682 50141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1338890705 811947 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: theres always @ < 1338890720 223726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: ...That's true. < 1338890908 110189 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what happens if 2 mobs(?) try to occupy the same square in the same turn? < 1338890930 300753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, there's underline too. < 1338890934 478858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Why is inversion an attribute? < 1338890940 437555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't you just swap background and foreground? < 1338890964 593540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: One wins. Possibly it's treated as a scuffle of some kind and one or both of them accrue damage. < 1338891318 403020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is also how NetHack works. < 1338891335 289239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes you try to move into an empty square to find out that your pet moved into it just before you did. < 1338891487 891516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Hmm, really? < 1338891489 365374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like that. < 1338891494 251849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack is supposed to be turn-based. < 1338891497 712901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you are sleeping. < 1338891523 267960 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338891563 94048 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338891729 200676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338891735 199408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Are you sleeping soundly? < 1338891762 403049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I wish I was. :-( < 1338891770 614455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sleep is inconsistent. < 1338891782 648887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(GET; IT;) < 1338891785 713728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338891834 697052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explain. < 1338891864 945398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unsound. < 1338891867 739489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also erratic. < 1338891903 584325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see the joke. < 1338891926 468553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which part? < 1338891949 172105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You asked if I was sleeping soundly. < 1338891953 573761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe *you* were making a joke. < 1338891983 750759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1338891985 232340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hilarious. < 1338891991 117941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are so funny. < 1338891998 708294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's what they say: < 1338892003 588962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII silly question, get a silly ANSI. < 1338892080 262750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You'd watch PH play NetHack right now, right? < 1338892082 907843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be hilarious. < 1338892186 935951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psychonauts still gives an FP exception even without its own libraries. < 1338892200 411404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: W i n d o w s < 1338892225 224703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, I'm going to sleep. < 1338892229 650885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You can do it! < 1338892235 405734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get Psychonauts running. < 1338892241 628980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like: < 1338892243 436570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pshittynauts < 1338892251 815811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who went there i went there < 1338892302 241845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I have an existing game on NAO. < 1338892305 227006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And don't give up on it immediately this time when you get it running. < 1338892307 383754 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how they call themselves america when excluding canada < 1338892318 208804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Get past the levitation world at least. < 1338892330 9787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the game is full of easter eggs that you should look for. < 1338892339 354176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PhantomHoo < 1338892348 632042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I like how you don't use statuscolors. < 1338892352 924585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the thing where everyone turns out to be depressed and suicidal! That's a good easter egg. < 1338892389 630949 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I didn't give up on it? < 1338892401 54035 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best easter eggs are made of chocolate < 1338892402 546625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Good! < 1338892410 853760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I like how you saved a game on D:2. < 1338892411 218008 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, statuscolours??/ < 1338892414 307627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338892418 733275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So your HP would go red when it was low. < 1338892424 919769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just copy my rc file. < 1338892426 948178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "the best". < 1338892439 140921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "okay" < 1338892443 912863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if you hate life" < 1338892447 202501 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah i liked easter more pre-diabetes < 1338892476 505628 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :post-diabetes it's all about avoiding relatives and drinking diet coke < 1338892501 988641 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my diabetes isn't under control well enough for me to avoid sugar... < 1338892517 62538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Do you use numpad. < 1338892519 955549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you use numpad. < 1338892522 30082 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah < 1338892533 949324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the hell would I use numpad. < 1338892547 331866 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5123? < 1338892562 319644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have played literally 42 games of NetHack ever wow you are so bad. < 1338892581 30981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played it locally too. < 1338892584 852847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suuuuure < 1338892602 24875 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many choices on the numpad /789 8456 5123 < 1338892604 752507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: How many games have you played; < 1338892608 22985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH WAIT: 0 < 1338892610 482564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Some. < 1338892621 919862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Nice burdening. < 1338892646 448371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, sleep. < 1338892651 382311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You should read that scroll! < 1338892653 92094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Get you-know-what set up. < 1338892662 504536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Don't listen to elliott. < 1338892668 814055 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what I'm going to do stupid things just so you get annoyed at me. < 1338892670 185397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word "elliott" is derived from the word "lie" < 1338892673 525295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :STARTING WITH READING THAT SCROLL < 1338892674 209784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"e-lie-ot" < 1338892681 908538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That's a good thing to say before doing stupid thing unintentionally. < 1338892684 640334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*things < 1338892685 7224 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWESOME < 1338892722 852776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to sleep. < 1338892734 461430 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338892804 934885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: SUEW, `SLEEP'. < 1338892921 249150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You look like you know what you're doing even less than I do. < 1338892947 46774 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I know that several of the things I'm doing are stupid, see above. < 1338892951 967775 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... slightly more than I do? < 1338892976 4634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: 11:38 Phantom_Hoover: That's a good thing to say before doing stupid thing unintentionally. < 1338892980 408624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:38 *things < 1338892992 923304 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I'm definitely doing them deliberately. < 1338893003 325897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't eat mold corpses when I'm playing sensibly, for one thing. < 1338893017 791377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I never read random scrolls or drink random potions. < 1338893059 557648 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find that the place i live doesn't have nearly enough random scrolls or potions for my liking < 1338893093 685980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You should dig for victory. < 1338893106 373151 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't have any digging impliments. < 1338893121 268442 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go into your backyard and break a branch off a tree! < 1338893124 134084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH SHIT < 1338893127 287158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1338893146 331197 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK um < 1338893148 677469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You should follow the guide on [[nethackwiki:Digging for victory]]. < 1338893151 752750 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they keep throwing weapons < 1338893152 328859 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :play minecraft real life < 1338893157 893115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also your HP is still 35 so I'm not sure why you are worrying. < 1338893163 748662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't kill this wizard < 1338893172 372146 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyll probably just kill each other < 1338893193 509039 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is hilarious < 1338893344 780546 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear food poisoning. < 1338893349 418904 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY ANCIENT NEMESIS < 1338893370 386581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what < 1338893372 913124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you not pray < 1338893388 152610 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338893562 800779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: congrats you "lose" < 1338893804 597395 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338893905 430718 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1338895344 394692 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wait you can pray to get rid of food poisoning < 1338895349 859964 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was like breaking a nail in df < 1338895359 953611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sure do suck at nethack < 1338895559 210037 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Atheist conduct < 1338895737 797256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Did you know shachaf ascended atheist wishless? Observe: < 1338895740 399211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog atheist wishless < 1338895777 966802 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338895784 23585 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly. < 1338895807 852174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1338895810 975028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog wishless atheist < 1338895824 755889 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338895831 28271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1338895841 140258 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm-hm. < 1338895925 221037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog shachaf.*atheist < 1338895932 379784 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-04-15.txt:06:37:52: You were an atheist < 1338895935 989786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog shachaf.*atheist < 1338895944 5420 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-04-15.txt:06:36:52: elliott: But have you ASCENDED NETHACK ATHEIST WISHLESS < 1338895949 366971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: See? < 1338895982 49400 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1338896026 917905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But do you? < 1338896036 846826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know how to see. < 1338896048 188366 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunate for you. < 1338896073 626084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Are you? < 1338896124 809425 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am. < 1338896132 586083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Isn't it not? < 1338896140 706716 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1338896148 445375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye. < 1338896441 828500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Do you know about VT100? < 1338896473 563124 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about it? < 1338896480 355345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: The codes, and stuff. < 1338896488 691594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Like, you know how you can copy text from terminals? < 1338896495 119928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it won't pad it out with a lot of spaces to fill the width? < 1338896501 600849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between a cell with nothing in it and a cell with a space in it? < 1338896508 471064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I place a cell with nothing in it at a certain position? How? < 1338896535 706592 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference is probably just that there's a line break in the middle of the line. :-P < 1338896583 935946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ah, so you can put an '\n' in a cell? < 1338896597 274907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So could I fill the entire terminal with '\n's as a "clear" state? < 1338896603 779850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: How does mosh handle this? I know it "synchronises" a terminal. < 1338896615 966460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ostensibly it must be able to make a cell that has something in it not have something in it any more. < 1338896617 122175 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you can do that directly. < 1338896660 688970 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to clear the terminal, there's a CSI sequence for that. < 1338896741 760131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Mm, but that's inconvenient for my architecture. < 1338896760 775885 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps your architecture needs tweaking. < 1338896772 900560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically I consider the terminal to be an 80x24 blob of cell values; I keep track of the "old" state, and updates get filtered into a separate update map, and then I update the terminal accordingly. < 1338896779 990723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That is what I am trying to achieve by asking these questions. < 1338896824 625905 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you doing? < 1338896855 212746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Implementing my simultaneous-turn roguelike. < 1338896857 239332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't want to use curses. < 1338896917 139199 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So can't you set your internal blob to all-blank while issuing the "clear screen" sequence? < 1338896946 840004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should optimize your updates by using the region-scroll/copy/move stuffs. I remember reading websites with lynx on the VT510, and it was the funkiest, the way blocks of characters would just go all around the place when it decided to reuse some already-on-the-screen stuffs. < 1338896964 100584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well, it's a fixed-size vector; there's not really a concept of "all-blank". More generally, the initial fill *does* have some relevant properties (for instance, black background); I would rather not special-case that kind of thing. < 1338896971 182422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Remember that when I overwrite text, it may be with a shorter string. < 1338896983 559118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'll need to replace cells with "emptiness" even if I special-case the initialt hing. < 1338896994 208649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That... might actually be useful, since I have a scrolling viewport. < 1338897001 290857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But it's too fiddly for me to consider. < 1338897020 325286 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The concept of "all-blank" would be "spaces in every cell". If you need to keep track of the size, do that separately. Likewise for blank vs. space, if you need that differentiation. < 1338897046 496945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: OK. So I fill the terminal with spaces. Now I want to display this text in the top-left corner: < 1338897050 72434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world. < 1338897051 184092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodbye, world. < 1338897059 763009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when the user copies it, I want there to be no spaces after "world.". < 1338897067 763783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do I change? < 1338897124 430370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: (By the way, what happened to "optomize"?) < 1338897125 370335 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you implementing a terminal or running in another one? If you're running in some existing terminal, I would imagine that after issuing the "clear screen" sequence that would work fine. I.e. only do the "all spaces" thing internally. < 1338897137 117027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Running in another one. < 1338897142 114687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, ew. < 1338897145 532243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what you mean now. < 1338897146 839485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's gross. < 1338897155 983498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, if I insert < 1338897157 508759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Foo bar" < 1338897160 647661 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing the "all spaces" thing externally is gross IMO. < 1338897162 777909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would result in no space being inserted after foo. < 1338897170 582683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is to synchronise the internal state with the external state. < 1338897179 9775 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would that result in no space? < 1338897179 691331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So since there's already a space between foo and bar, or so it thinks, it would simply skip that cell. < 1338897186 590971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:52 Doing the "all spaces" thing externally is gross IMO. < 1338897187 520192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is. < 1338897192 130309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I was asking what I should do that wasn't that. < 1338897195 57092 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so you need to internally differentiate between "space" and "blank". < 1338897202 370061 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have a dirty bit on each cell, or something. < 1338897211 332201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Remember the part where I have to turn some cells from non-blank into blank? < 1338897217 465611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When replacing a line with a shorter one. < 1338897233 230501 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, what's the problem there? < 1338897243 571956 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Externally: erase rest of line. Internally: assign blank to cells. < 1338897255 598790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I have to special-case lines too? < 1338897271 44518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole point of this is to insulate me from the terminal's vagaries and treat it as a simple block display :P < 1338897299 729062 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simplest way to do that is to clear the screen at every time. :-P < 1338897310 624145 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, special-case lines. < 1338897321 104382 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd imagine that's why the corresponding CSI sequences exist. < 1338897335 652331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could "special-case lines" by synchronising blank cells with clear line sequences, I suppose. < 1338897345 133231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I run into impossible states like a blank cell in the middle of a line. < 1338897367 258967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know mosh treats the terminal as just a block display to be synchronised, so I'm hopeful it has some nice solution. (Thus the kmc ping.) < 1338897380 521758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or else I misunderstand mosh's architecture.) < 1338897394 636588 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe its solution is to use curses, which handles the vagaries internally. :-P < 1338897488 607664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm pretty sure software which deals with UTF-8 vt220 state machines and whatever "ISO 2022 locking escape sequences" are would not use curses. < 1338897503 909265 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, beats me. < 1338897505 173971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially given the whole "handles awkward Unicode edge-cases better than terminal software" thing. < 1338897505 695657 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta run --> < 1338897513 224336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME < 1338897520 996477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote jump out < 1338897524 446963 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :49) no Deewiant No?! I've been living a lie yep. Excuse me while I jump out of the window -> < 1338897741 387432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Have you tested if it works right if you just make blanks by using the "erase character" ECH escape sequence? Though ECH is apparently not part of the plain VT100 set. ("Delete" is, but it moves stuff in from the right side.) < 1338897752 928970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's ECH part of, then? < 1338897762 351814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I haven't really written any code to output ANSI sequences at all yet, but this sounds promising. < 1338897810 33874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't want to use anything that xterm/(u)rxvt/gnome-terminal/Konsole don't support, more or less.) < 1338897817 574872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECH is in at least the Linux console_codes, xterm's list of codes, the VT200 set, and ECMA-48, so it's not *terribly* rare. < 1338897832 356423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :VT200 sounds good enough for me. < 1338897840 287394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it VT220, though? < 1338897873 823759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: (What is the code?) < 1338897905 152350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's... slightly suboptimal, in that I'll output an awful lot of them at the end of a line. < 1338897922 256890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :VT200 as in "VT2xx". And it's \e[nX where n's the number if characters to erase. < 1338897923 874591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I just realised now that I probably can't make much use of blanks at all. < 1338897944 114704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm, I can. < 1338897951 18963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1338897955 86216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on how I organise my layout. < 1338897959 790719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or nX, I suppose, if one wants to be real fancy and 8-bit. < 1338897984 240024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What happens if you have "a.b" and then erase the ".", I wonder...) < 1338898034 977519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will "cause the active presentation position and the n-1 following character positions in the presentation component to be put in the erased state", if you want the ECMA description of what happens. < 1338898056 621842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is... rather vague. < 1338898069 113808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :VT220 manual says "Erasing removes characters from the screen without affecting other characters on the screen. Erased characters are lost. The cursor position does not change when erasing characters or lines." < 1338898103 850586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also puts erase-character in the same group as the usual erase-in-line "clear to the end of line/start of line/complete line" code, so it presumably should be somewhat similar. < 1338898117 164961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, VT220 doesn't really have a way to select text with the mouse. < 1338898121 156611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is the behaviour I'm interested in. < 1338898224 339533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Does "a beside b" imply a is to the left of b? If not, is the a verb instead of "beside" that does? < 1338898231 386638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "a above b" implies a is to the... upwards of b. < 1338898264 671506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"leftof" is so a verb. < 1338898271 515307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So not. :( < 1338898283 321506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, "beside" isn't even a verb. < 1338898284 222123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS it? < 1338898285 124522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Is < 1338898286 926992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate language. < 1338898428 173105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, echo 'foo ' in my terminal results in "foo" with three selectable spaces after, and echo -e 'foo \e[3D\e[3X' doesn't really help, while echo -e 'foo \e[3D\e[K' propely makes just a 'foo' with no selectable spaces after, so maybe you do have to clear to end of line to get short lines. < 1338898452 851630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who *invented* terminals? < 1338898462 444049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll just use Qt or something and use a proper text field for my status line. < 1338898490 923814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And 'foobar\e[3D\e[3X < 1338898499 777582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :' gives a 'foo ' too.) < 1338898505 288974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With the silly spaces.) < 1338898600 680273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So, teach me about VT colours. < 1338898613 924916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how some terminals interpret blinking as blinking, and some interpret it as setting the background colour to high intensity? < 1338898635 247558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I get, e.g. a dark grey (i.e. high-intensity black) background in a "portable" way? (portable, n. works on xterm without configuration) < 1338898912 843875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a funny definition of portable, having just one terminal emulator there. (Anyway, I think it's still possible to compile xterm without 16-colour support, in which case you can't get that at all.) < 1338898930 684507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: By "xterm", I mean "xterm and rxvt and so on". < 1338898946 343547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The reason I say it that way is because you can set rxvt to treat it as high-intensity background etc. etc. but that doesn't count as "portable". < 1338898949 293762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should Just Work. < 1338899005 622679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, more generally: Is there any way to do it other than setting blink? < 1338899009 227568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(256colors need not apply.) < 1338899028 327850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fore/background "bright color" codes 90..107 should I think Just Work in the sense that they at least won't start blinking, presumably in xterm- and rxvt-derived stuffs. Not so sure about Linux console, though. < 1338899065 263737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :90..97 are bright versions of 30..37 and 100..107 of 40..47 in the \e[...m construction. < 1338899067 50065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that in any standard? Will the foreground versions show as bold in a terminal emulator set to display bold text as thickened, or just as bright? < 1338899100 813008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those should be just bright colours, since they don't involve the bold attribute '1' there. < 1338899119 224751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. Hmm. < 1338899124 646886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit worried about the portability of that. < 1338899131 147307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wondering if it'll work in gnome-terminal, for instance.) < 1338899358 350665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: (So is it in any standard?) < 1338899415 203428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to http://bjh21.me.uk/all-escapes/all-escapes.txt not really. I'm not sure if there's anything more standard to get a bright background, though. < 1338899434 409068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the "bold is bright" foreground thing isn't exactly global. < 1338899458 885771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1338899477 736136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, theoretically, I could just use these universally and fully decouple bright/not-bright from bold, right? < 1338899491 170370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except that I couldn't have a non-bright bold cell, because it'd end up becoming bright.) < 1338899501 374277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bit wary of this...) < 1338899530 405344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, if you toggle bold on, it'd become bold, bright, or bold and bright, depending. < 1338899549 422749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Terminals are a mess.) < 1338899634 941087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Maybe I'll just not use colours at all. < 1338899640 900561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old-school style. < 1338899676 386856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Does anyone have a Linux console handy?) < 1338899757 119774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECMA-48 specifies a hilariously long list of attributes for SGR (i.e. \e[...m). You can have things blink slowly or rapidly, you can have characters concealed or crossed-out-but-still-legible, you can use first, second, ..., ninth alternative font, you can enable fraktur mode, you can have the stuff framed and/or encircled, whatever. < 1338899791 156939 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fraktur mode? < 1338899872 499831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, it does nothing in my terminal. < 1338900001 537955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hardly ever supported" -- Wikipedia (uncited) < 1338900038 193581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For an old-fashioned "vgacon" Linux console, I doubt you can get a bright background no matter what you do, since I think it's -- unless you do tricks -- stuck in the default text mode, which has Blink Enable on, so there's just three bits of attributes for the background color physically. < 1338900070 836850 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what do you need linux terminal for? < 1338900077 771654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Console. < 1338900083 953657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Aw. < 1338900090 129320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But framebuffer??? < 1338900117 741036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's another thing, I wouldn't be surprised if fbcon didn't do blink at all. < 1338900130 466629 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it'd need to manually blink that stuff. < 1338900142 845454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like the sort of thing they wouldn't have bothered to implement. < 1338900331 523770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a framebuffer console on this thing, ISTR it didn't play nice with the nvidia driver. On vgacon, bold ('1') will make foreground bright, and blink ('5') will make things blink, but the bright-colour codes don't do anything at all. < 1338900487 834349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is awkward. < 1338900508 451267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to just stick with sixteen backgrounds, sixteen foregrounds, and a "bold" attribute, with the understanding that it'll either make it bold or brighten the foreground or both. < 1338900516 776957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also an underline attribute. Which will hopefully just... underline. < 1338900539 59121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: By the way, why is inverse a separate attribute? < 1338900543 696080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just swap the background and foreground instead. < 1338900552 29042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does lo-fi stuff support inverse but not background/foreground colours? < 1338900561 339345 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's very common, yes. < 1338900643 990976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You have a funny definition of "very". I like it. < 1338900665 917596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet NetHack supports things that only support inverse and not background/foreground colours. < 1338900673 30700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And actually uses it, I mean.) < 1338900680 753281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, if you have a non-color terminal, it'll still do inverse. My VT420 and VT510 were like that. < 1338900837 7136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1338900838 486258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If". < 1338900957 180983 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you meant that everyone has non-color terminals < 1338900987 627678 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you own physical terminals? < 1338901016 831053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I used to, but I gave one of them away to a friend, and the smoke came out of the other one. < 1338901056 966942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have one under my desk for IRC purposes, I think. < 1338901068 970619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there were people visiting, for example. < 1338901092 214240 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you ever attach one to serial port of linux machine and use it from there < 1338901098 105619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Can you give me an algorithm that goes from a two-dimensional map of coordinates and replacement cells to put there to an ~optimal sequence of ANSI codes to perform those updates? < 1338901128 125818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Yes, that's how I mostly used it. < 1338901158 523772 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The VT510 was very fancy. It did text modes up to something like 50 lines, and had a hardware status line, and a built-in calculator and whatever. < 1338901169 133633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nnno, I don't think I can. < 1338901178 793297 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :built in calculator? < 1338901179 362098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, it doesn't have to be optimal optimal. < 1338901181 544862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Just, you know. < 1338901193 128888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do clever things like optimise the order in which to move about so it can use shorter movement sequences. < 1338901196 25093 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did it have some kind of microprocessor in it? < 1338901268 905450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Sure, I mean, it has to decode the codes, and present a setup menu and whatnot. If you pressed the right magic keys, it gave you a "graphical" (line-drawing characters) desk calculator thing. There was a key to paste the result in as if you had typed it. < 1338901283 546294 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i take it bacj < 1338901309 633151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks fizzie. :( < 1338901320 588536 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. a real terminal would be nice to have < 1338901345 317319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also had a menu-driven configuration thing. I mean, look at this stuff: http://www.vt100.net/docs/vt510-rm/f2-21.png < 1338901353 361722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also a clock. < 1338901380 214036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very configurable thing. < 1338901387 732700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's too much configuration. :( < 1338901400 154084 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vt100.net/docs/vt510-rm/chapter2 lotsa menus. < 1338901433 334295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many character sets, too. < 1338901456 196542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO there should be at most 2.45 buttons on everything and one of them does nothing (it is there to reassure you). < 1338901469 27525 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that thing would pass for GUI I have designed if it didn't have that blocky text "Terminal Set-Up" < 1338901522 384206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it has local copy-paste support too. < 1338901562 575272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vt100.net/docs/vt510-rm/chapter3 <- there's a picture of the calculator. < 1338901634 398569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the hard status line was funky too, with screen. < 1338901653 709505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is the algorithm done yet? < 1338901658 225283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shouldn't be too hard. < 1338901843 839730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just scan it left-to-right, top-to-bottom, output when changed, track where you were and prepend a movement command when necessary. Sounds optimal enough: won't bounce around (vertically), and consecutive cells will be just output without intervening commands. Though it might be slightly tricky to update the bottom-right cell. < 1338901858 699332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, but e.g. imagine this update < 1338901859 603900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc < 1338901859 962268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : d < 1338901875 154328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be better to go down after b and then up-right after b. < 1338901881 849472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than doing a full-coordinate-in-decimal reposition thing. < 1338901953 306023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1338901954 255516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"abc", move to d, "d" sounds still shorter; I mean, outputting character moves you automatically one step right, and all the movement characters are like three commands long. < 1338901970 172703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Movement commands, three characters. < 1338901973 869580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moving to d involves a global reposition thing. < 1338901982 545429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what if you're at 1000000,1000000? < 1338901993 938267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At 1000000000,1000000000 in your 80x24 screen? < 1338902001 237994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a big screen now! < 1338902003 408254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you mean use cursor-style movement exclusively? < 1338902015 921723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, that'll be bad when you have something changed at the top and bottom, say. < 1338902036 441797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hmm, is line-wrapping behaviour guaranteed?) < 1338902048 330609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So you can skip a reposition to the start of the next line in... very pathological cases.) < 1338902108 238069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So, just to clarify: < 1338902109 149153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have < 1338902109 678067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc < 1338902110 221648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :def < 1338902112 385539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll be < 1338902119 468081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :abcdef < 1338902120 905300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1338902130 95478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That still seems possibly suboptimal to me. But okay. :p < 1338902331 739099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you did say "not optimal optimal", and it's simple to do. Anyway, when you see the cursor isn't where you want it to be, that's a place where you can conveniently decide whether to use something else than an absolute movement command if it seems shorter. (E.g. check if it's same line/column -- the former more often, presumably, if you scan in the reading order -- and use the ... < 1338902337 772586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... up/down/left/right movements, or the "absolute column on current row" one.) < 1338902364 419178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. But the idea behind a super-almost-optimal one would be to rearrange all the updates to get the most favourable sequence of movements :P < 1338902368 573405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'll just do the obvious thing. < 1338902448 194282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also omit the r and/or c in \e[r;cH when the row or column is 1. (It's 1-based.) < 1338902462 350087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, this means I want to nest my updates map (y,x). < 1338902466 869881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's an IntMap (IntMap Cell).) < 1338902471 572701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That will be very confusing. :( < 1338902537 67409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And same for column c in \e[cG, and I guess also for the relative movements when moving by one notch.) < 1338902565 185438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what curses does? Oh, curses just relies on context given at the time of mutation. (Ew.) < 1338902739 592671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've often wondered what piece of code (curses, screen, lynx itself) was responsible for the plainly visible update-optimization when using the physical terminal. I mean, it was clever enough to scroll large blocks both horizontally and vertically to position them right, instead of redrawing.) < 1338902943 558757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I really want to use that. :( < 1338902952 155186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, I mean, have you ever played Dungeon Crawl? < 1338903038 292560 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indiana has law saying that Pi=3 < 1338903065 815167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: And did you know that the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?! < 1338903175 428435 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill < 1338903198 334188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Did you notice the word coming after "The bill never became"? < 1338903199 599740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "law". < 1338903205 778062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the second paragraph, so you might have missed it... < 1338903219 76889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf. also http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.asp < 1338903335 81187 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 75+64 < 1338903336 29390 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 139 < 1338903409 495267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not pi. < 1338903429 802045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just move the 3 one left. < 1338903431 74589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.19 < 1338903433 56930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's basically pi. < 1338903849 275217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: data Thing = Jump Point | Skip Int | Write Cell < 1338903852 165690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I call this, man??? < 1338904130 615090 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CursorAction < 1338904306 806002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That could work, thanks < 1338904790 175225 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95DF2.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338904898 898381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, I just realised that my thing has somewhat suboptimal behaviour for "foo bar" when there was previously spaces. < 1338904907 573375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should just overwrite the space, but instead it'll use CSI C < 1338904950 101268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I'll special-case a difference of less than three characters. < 1338905071 966155 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338905250 750915 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1338905888 516485 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338906122 640504 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338906159 815056 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338906162 415493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338906168 668103 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh!! < 1338906587 39018 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what is crawl's 5? Wait a turn? < 1338906588 209970 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, . < 1338906630 308865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no, wait 100 turns or until something happens; "something" includes "a monster comes into view", "MP restored", and "HP restored" < 1338906642 315874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in NetHack I just have to spam 50., which (a) is tedious and slow and (b) wastes turns after full HP restore < 1338906660 282292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Crawl you can go from nearly dead to full HP in about 3 seconds with judicious application of 5 < 1338906663 150443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably less < 1338906669 970603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably more like 1.5 seconds < 1338906683 251760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it also searches too, which is nice < 1338906831 488322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What are the arguments to the select graphic rendition stuff < 1338906840 915335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CSI n [;k] m" but I see no indication of when you'd use a k. < 1338906845 2095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apparently there can be more than one. < 1338906908 465129 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah, yeah < 1338906910 522085 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that would be nice < 1338906931 694707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it would also be nice to have an actual hp bar on the bottom row... but it's pretty cramped already < 1338906934 23567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, "NetHack < 1338906937 251100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*"NetHack" < 1338906938 930678 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nh4 has an hp bar < 1338906947 485092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1338906949 633256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it have one the last time I played? < 1338906950 886480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall < 1338906954 460841 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1338906955 855525 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: k is used when setting colours < 1338906956 446261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember it being the kind of bar I'd want anyway < 1338906960 524716 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1338906966 840374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, just 256-colour stuff? < 1338906990 463480 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think so, yes < 1338906993 179031 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ^. a character? < 1338906995 979154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Crawl has the luxury of not being able to even try fitting a map onto one screen so it can stuff a lot of stuff on the screen instead < 1338906998 119139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Right < 1338907025 701209 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nh4 just takes more screen real estate < 1338907047 931508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: You're not telling me you use hugeterm, are you? < 1338907060 178665 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the hugest term < 1338907064 480743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disgusting. < 1338907070 75222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not talking to you any more. < 1338907077 209764 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugeterm? < 1338907085 24208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: any terminal larger than 80x24 < 1338907090 222925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :terminals smaller than 80x24 are acceptable < 1338907182 321996 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit. I can't really resize my 160x64 terminal < 1338907315 552456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use tput or something. < 1338907322 353751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's OK to use bigger ones for a console. < 1338907326 482747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not OK to play games with them. < 1338907334 602685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, more generally, broadcast them.) < 1338907897 157176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pang < 1338907897 382677 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1338909040 879335 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nitro and hence nh4 doesn't require termcasting < 1338909043 612877 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or won't, eventually < 1338909051 387178 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :still a few mechanics need sorting out there < 1338909057 90984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It doesn't matter. < 1338909065 153958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, playing a game locally in hugeterm is a sin, too. < 1338909066 590854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I know.) < 1338909158 344518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Further guidance would be above my pay grade; consult High Priest monqy.) < 1338909648 523545 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does 'else' in scheme does not evaluate to #t ? < 1338909701 261704 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i apologize for the rudeness of this but its more of an experiment < 1338909706 599240 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google why does 'else' in scheme does not evaluate to #t ? < 1338909708 660977 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftp://ftp.cs.cmu.edu/usr/ai/html/r4rs/r4rs_6.html < 1338909812 344153 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not explain why < 1338909841 295692 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be rude if you've used lmgtfy < 1338909890 281197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Because it's usually used in a context where evaluating it as a value would not make sense < 1338909899 782569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at leaast, sometimes < 1338909901 394598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance < 1338909917 40483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider case < 1338909924 39907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(case (car '(c d)) < 1338909924 222391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ((a e i o u) 'vowel) < 1338909924 381997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ((w y) 'semivowel) < 1338909925 674313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (else 'consonant)) ===> consonant < 1338909927 645077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :library syntax: (and ...) < 1338909929 600685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore that last line < 1338909961 784478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's supported in COND also for consistency. It could be a value defined as #t, but since it's special in some control structures, why not just use it as a keyword in them and treat it in a uniform manner? < 1338910025 519577 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338910053 440350 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, i forgot about case & stuff < 1338910053 976726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*least < 1338910064 139040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, my memory isn't that good either. < 1338910070 53185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pulled up R5RS to check my hunch. < 1338910070 320151 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks elliott < 1338910076 433155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no problem :) < 1338910086 597236 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net NICK :Ngevd < 1338910092 515577 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may surprise some of you, especially, hmm.. especially fungot, but under the right conditions i do know how it's supposed to feel to learn things ^_^ < 1338910107 955664 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a chat i had before reminded me of it < 1338910111 964476 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338910159 752862 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi won't let me talk... < 1338910168 611068 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's not supposed to feel like anything as an adult < 1338910188 715069 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe learn is learn, with no manipulative pleasure < 1338910213 626958 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1338910246 42770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: hi < 1338910246 569729 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338910269 101366 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Ngevd is XChat, Taneb is irssi < 1338910293 573977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338910302 95062 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought logo was rubbish when i saw it though.. < 1338910535 847503 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1338910550 323949 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm missing something, part of the fun of thinking, by always being concerned with the applied, practical, concrete side of things < 1338910556 31817 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338910561 797676 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn < 1338910577 961792 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1338910600 964221 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338910602 546192 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338910605 258857 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotcha! < 1338910606 392277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338910611 231663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Taneb < 1338910614 276153 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338910614 435918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME NGEVD < 1338910617 516863 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338910618 182537 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NGEVD: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.) < 1338910667 576305 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've worked it out < 1338910675 784237 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It helps if you are in the channel pane < 1338910684 970810 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1338910689 562021 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1338910702 81950 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1338910718 468747 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in the status bit < 1338910720 171164 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whois Taneb < 1338910722 934238 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: whois: not found < 1338910774 874928 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Taneb is Ngevd < 1338910777 675731 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is Ngevd < 1338911037 304917 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1338911041 805105 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reading SICP < 1338911049 879532 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm leaving for various reasons < 1338911249 962318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338911254 21387 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338912034 436770 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338912128 536683 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338912708 253571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[exists v. (Eq v) => (v -> String, Attrs -> v)] < 1338912709 332896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1338912723 701029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvious preapplication Attrs -> String < 1338912727 259137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also Attrs -> Attrs -> Bool < 1338914249 990611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (Monoid a) => Bool -> a -> a < 1338914250 478993 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Exception.Base assert :: Bool -> a -> a < 1338914250 665219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Exception assert :: Bool -> a -> a < 1338914250 825085 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.OldException assert :: Bool -> a -> a < 1338915219 17806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So, the reset/normal SGR thing. < 1338915223 866852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that reset the foreground/background too? < 1338915225 296645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, what to? < 1338915555 351080 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338915662 11027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the "default". It might not be exactly any of the other colours. < 1338915725 65359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1338915855 424561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, hey, you can just do \ESC[a;b;c;dm for \ESC[am\ESC[bm\ESC[cm\ESC[dm. < 1338915857 212883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How convenient. < 1338915858 830010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant lied to me. < 1338915887 249350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1338915903 529954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says that in places. < 1338915922 411966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't "read". < 1338915925 314402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for the WP articles. < 1338915926 711905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*article. < 1338915948 590312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"After CSI can be zero or more parameters separated with ;." (The WP article.) < 1338915956 282674 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't know that. < 1338915963 387108 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That /is/ convenient. < 1338915971 517005 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What, you haven't ever set bright red with \e[31;1m? < 1338916017 243852 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's not the convenient thing I thought it was. < 1338916020 255620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, but "parameters" is ambiguous. < 1338916022 456832 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's what I meant. < 1338916029 730812 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then elliott confused me by asking about 256-colour. < 1338916031 913689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, see that xterm-256 takes a colour parameter after it. < 1338916032 989378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bizarrely. < 1338916036 942465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Because that's all that was mentioned as using it! < 1338916041 614024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (a -> Maybe b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1338916042 38508 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Maybe mapMaybe :: (a -> Maybe b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1338916042 220551 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude mapM :: Monad m => (a -> m b) -> [a] -> m [b] < 1338916042 379841 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad mapM :: Monad m => (a -> m b) -> [a] -> m [b] < 1338916144 928734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Behold the horror: http://sprunge.us/jOLb < 1338916146 124581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the 88/256-colour things are sorta silly, the way they change what the following parameters mean. < 1338916148 881575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ / / < 1338916207 626323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I should probably just get rid of the Action type by applying the trusty old single-use-data -> code transformation. < 1338916208 874734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fusing! < 1338916231 684112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And after I've done all this, all I'll have to solve is input. Still better than using curses. < 1338916456 47707 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you solved the matter of the screen scrolling if you output a character to the bottom-right cell? I think that sometimes happens. < 1338916467 174921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ugh, seriously? < 1338916480 629799 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, Swindon is such a great name for Swindon. < 1338916514 674593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Seems to work fine here. < 1338916540 718109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly this is in Terminal.app, voted "not the best" terminal emulator in a nationwide poll. < 1338916592 846702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you have `'nation-wide" polls in Finland? < 1338916609 76647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of polls? < 1338916614 907455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polls. < 1338916618 493190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Tell fizzie about nation-wide polls. < 1338916652 563040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're polls, also they're nation-wide. < 1338916669 273429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you Phantom_Hoover. < 1338916813 343803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I know of, any sort of official things, I don't think. < 1338916969 651050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the terminal thing, it does not seem to scroll in urxvt either, but I think it is a possible mode of operation, that the automatic-margin linewrap ends up causing a scroll. (It does seem to scroll the terminal if I move to the bottom-right corner and output two characters.) < 1338917201 410550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a terminfo boolean property "semi_auto_right_margin", with the description "printing in last column causes cr", it might be that sort of a thing.) < 1338917240 3704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Here's a TEST PROGRAM: < 1338917248 971965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://sprunge.us/eOha < 1338917376 88389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it puts an ugly @ at the corner there. < 1338917392 177207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Append ; sleep 3 for scrolltesting, of course.) < 1338917393 616146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Excellent. < 1338917398 272610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it doesn't scroll? < 1338917462 247985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no, not in my terminal. But I think it's only sucky terminals that would, anyway. < 1338917472 30273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That @ is a fleeing Terence standing on top of items, if we take monqy's Crawl's rc as a guide.) < 1338917484 31202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Crawl rc < 1338917571 649864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you know I ascended NetHack atheist wishless? < 1338917578 958191 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PART :#esoteric < 1338917585 949556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: WOW! Really? < 1338917587 384531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xscreensaver's molecular display is a bit... iffy. < 1338917589 894380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never heard that before. < 1338917590 433468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever. < 1338917591 828213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: SO the logs inform me! < 1338917608 722537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ah, you're one of those "log" "readers". < 1338917610 216432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text mode trivia of the day: VGA text mode has a hardware "underline" feature, but it's usually disabled in color text modes, because it's enabled by a particular background/foreground combination, and that's a bit silly. < 1338917616 257996 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338917631 443232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's a good point. What does that program do on your nearest Linux console? < 1338917635 520678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: More like one of those "scrollback" "backlog" "scrollbacklog" readers. < 1338917638 525613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"backscroll" < 1338917642 944526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"backscrollbacklog" < 1338917644 663534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"backscrollbacklogback" < 1338917647 245441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Same thing. < 1338917654 58192 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean caffeine is all well and good, but when it moves on to opium and VX I get the sense that someone will glance at it and I'll end up in Guantanamo Bay. < 1338917656 990644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"forthlog" < 1338917658 848018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"prolog < 1338917667 414859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1338917698 396242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How many people do you know that know the molecular structure of opium? < 1338917708 73184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even *I* don't know that. Maybe I should learn it. < 1338917716 629259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc might know. < 1338917717 39772 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says 'opium' right at the top! < 1338917721 701428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it doesn't it says morphine. < 1338917723 704785 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or heroin. < 1338917732 463522 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on which opioid it feels like displaying. < 1338917747 893805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Just paste a sticky note underneath where it displays it saying "IS BAD FOR YOU". < 1338917783 244390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It does not do anything terribly interesting in my VGA console, though nothing is underlined. (The Linux console doesn't do underlining anyway; you can specify a particular colour that will be used for underlined text, but I think that's ignored if you actually set a colour.) < 1338917815 235395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But I want underlining, though. :( < 1338917835 975275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can't have it in a Linux console, it just doesn't do it. < 1338917846 445698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Make it do it! < 1338917878 502625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Write a patch. < 1338917881 13240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Submit to lkml. < 1338917900 488851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nontrivial to do for vgacon, because the hardware is not so capable of it. < 1338917931 608309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I bet Abrash could do it. < 1338918075 546853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only coloured text you can underline is I think (dark or bright) red on black, because that's the setting of the attribute bits that enables underline generation. < 1338918169 638878 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fbcon \e[4m turns text odd colored < 1338918207 867588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: But I think it doesn't if you set a color manually. < 1338918230 371806 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338918253 105693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: You can use \e[1;n] to make 'n' the colour (0..7) that's used to simulate the underlining. < 1338918253 426510 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't underline it, it just changes color < 1338918280 59971 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. ok < 1338918308 959483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use \e(0HI MONQY) < 1338918311 279684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, fancy that, it does in fact override a set colour too. < 1338918340 285813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\e(0 = bset ecsape cdoe < 1338918370 669567 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1338918370 877520 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1338918378 35343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy im sorry < 1338918378 570442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338918383 422288 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1338918383 633255 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott asked 5s ago: im sorry < 1338918392 388224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy you forgot @messages? < 1338918392 621199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338918393 440226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I didn't notice the colour-change because it was the same colour that the text was already supposed to be. < 1338918400 291762 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1338918400 499507 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott asked 8s ago: you forgot @messages? < 1338918405 672791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy you forgot @messages? again < 1338918405 881067 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338918434 570870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy pardon me < 1338918434 776713 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338918440 315028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy gangway < 1338918440 526537 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338918476 569897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you ascend yet? < 1338918490 432765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338918495 633381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In NetHack < 1338918511 83026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338918516 306719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did you play Psychonauts yet? < 1338918530 338538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Also you. < 1338918620 165259 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1338918620 371234 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1338918651 691956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages? < 1338918651 913860 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1338918659 447846 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338918695 534170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Phoover is gone, so you'll have to play Psychonauts instead. < 1338918696 675840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you? < 1338918706 415390 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-162-123.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338918726 946779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One application of the motion to suspend the rules is called the "Gordian knot" motion.[9] If confusion has caused the assembly to get so tangled up in a parliamentary snarl that neither the chairman nor the members can unravel it, a member can move to suspend the rules to start fresh. The use of the "Gordian Knot" motion is illustrated in The Standard Code with this example: "Madam President, in view of the confusion about the parlia < 1338918727 106622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mentary situation, I believe it would be best if we were to cancel out everything that has been done on this motion and start over from the beginning, permitting the motion to be resubmitted in whatever form the maker wishes. I move that the rules be suspended to permit this."[9]. The "Gordian Knot" version of suspend the rules was introduced by Floyd Riddick, Parliamentarian Emeritus of the United States Senate, at a meeting of the B < 1338918727 106792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oard of Directors of the American Institute of Parliamentarians.[10] RONR does not make reference to the "Gordian Knot". < 1338918728 556242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[edit] < 1338918755 904182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, I've been sick. Also I played a bit of LIMBO and Bastion. < 1338918790 834096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Psychonauts is probably better! < 1338918793 963935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Get well soon! Or die. < 1338918797 905929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are probably the only two options. < 1338918802 890470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are you a child? < 1338918813 465599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, play Psychonauts; it'll have childhood nostalgia on its side. < 1338918846 565352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chidlhood < 1338918892 394829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't suppose the console supports 256colours. :p < 1338918919 623141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, though fbcon technically could. (As far as I know, it doesn't.) < 1338918942 380169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just go "completely brogue". < 1338919004 203581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This involves Actual Windowing and so many colours.) < 1338919008 694711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Have you played brogue? < 1338919031 922600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not long ago rxvt-unicode didn't support 256 colours either; it's "traditionally" done the 88-colour thing. (Nowadays it does the 256 too.) < 1338919038 522753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I has not. < 1338919047 814453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and all the telnet server things disconnect clients with the 256 colours rxvt-unicode $TERM. < 1338919053 14485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have to set it to rxvt-unicode. :( < 1338919056 652322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's fun. < 1338919063 29371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And simple. < 1338919067 330925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not "simple" in the bad sense. < 1338919072 531059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not fiddly to play. < 1338919095 753061 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-162-123.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338919097 620249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem to be even Wikipedia-notable! < 1338919104 992435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sites.google.com/site/broguegame/ < 1338919107 467590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 colours? < 1338919112 121102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened to 4 billion colours? < 1338919113 567596 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-162-123.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338919116 694951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does seem to be Google-notable. < 1338919120 296421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's popular "in the community", as they say. < 1338919193 329088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's basically like rogue, were rogue a lot less simplistic and fleshed out and developed in 2012 and really ridiculously pretty. < 1338919201 38014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it's ~spoilerless! < 1338919211 254862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cf. http://308192c9-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/broguegame/home/screenshots/DarBattlemage.png?attachauth=ANoY7coM1tv9xZVXhGG5TH-dIf9KXWO7LgbsbsP-kCl8yGK0RvdI5rsCDwwz1f9rKRHgveM8eUkdxjEoF5-zeIBswnGMRDJa80aLD9nfdKQjxZYG2JYgaLH-G5A0OQu8hTjAP91omhpxXxU_v8Ve7h-lC6qT9jiGMPUtFmcY-Fvic3pGifXjq4eubAjy2vnEfn09nkS4TosoK9KAU9z_QaT6dJGs1UktL_erux-isDM7_fiRYfz3UBw%3D&attredirects=0) < 1338919214 886296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, what a terrible URL. < 1338919224 350572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever really had 4 billion colours anywhere. It's a weird amount to have, not being 2^n where n%3 == 0. < 1338919240 574167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The dar blademaster is standing, burning, in a pool of blood." -- yes, me too. < 1338919241 912737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's certainly pretty. < 1338919267 175118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The water is even prettier. Actually every part of the game is prettier than every other part of it. < 1338919277 437565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a whole light-illumination thing on every tile and all. < 1338919328 591036 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338919339 491497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You typically hit for 10860% of the goblin conjurer's maximum HP, and at best could defeat it in 1 hit." < 1338919356 790014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What... did you do. < 1338919364 387552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at a screenshot. < 1338919368 374405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You should endorse brogue! It says in my contract I get a bonus if I get you to endorse it too. < 1338919369 625056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh. < 1338919373 478520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one called Conjurer-on-bridge.png. < 1338919380 935440 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue is good < 1338919388 290790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I dunno, sounds like a risky battle to me. < 1338919392 593747 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :, as far as roguelikes go < 1338919393 134040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the worst-case???? < 1338919400 349640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also have a 100% chance to hit. < 1338919417 73429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but what if you hit for, e.g. only 900% of the goblin conjurer's maximum HP? < 1338919425 57074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be bad. < 1338919456 886626 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue has problems but it's a pretty good game < 1338919457 246763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Brogue Tips: You can technically examine things and travel to places using the keyboard, but once you get used to it hover-to-examine and click-to-travel are really convenient. Also + increases the font size.) < 1338919462 301404 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get back into brogue < 1338919465 355555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think that's all the brogue tips I have.) < 1338919468 941673 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue problems #1: < 1338919470 776122 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :t r a p s < 1338919476 696817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh! There's another one: ? is a handy one-page reference to all the keys you need.) < 1338919481 897613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's all of them.) < 1338919509 172326 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear brogue early game is better in more recent versions so that complaint's "out the window", as they say < 1338919514 553976 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least until I try brogue again < 1338919532 684858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: My early game deaths (all of them) haven't been to traps, at least. < 1338919542 907952 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: traps are only a problem late game < 1338919546 131836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: They're mostly when you run into a goblin conjurer pack and get swamped by spectral blades and so on. < 1338919546 848111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1338919550 79324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you gotten to brogue lategame? < 1338919551 157351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant that was the early game complaint. < 1338919553 484776 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1338919554 203056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: No. :( < 1338919558 697526 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll see what i mean < 1338919559 59062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not very good at roguelikes. < 1338919561 386776 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you get there < 1338919575 733983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brogue is probably tougher for me than most other roguelikes because of the less... character-building-based focus. < 1338919588 829841 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue has plenty of character building < 1338919590 621961 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just < 1338919596 182058 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your character is your equipment < 1338919604 435703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I meant was that you don't really have much of a fallback beyond your wits and what you've picked up. < 1338919615 762000 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what more do you need < 1338919616 301827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, there seems to be less of an accrual of general power over time like you have in Crawl and so on. < 1338919622 575997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Well, I don't have wits, and the RNG hates me. < 1338919624 372555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... everything. < 1338919625 450193 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get plenty of power < 1338919632 804998 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your power is what you picked up and enchanted etc < 1338919645 536472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf rng < 1338919660 167169 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-162-123.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338919928 45137 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338920193 464726 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338920193 662626 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1338920193 662761 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338920213 438004 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :brogue is quite amusing < 1338920226 992070 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that whole thing with build < 1338920242 661869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338920287 931469 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't usually go deeper than the dlevel 10 in the latest version < 1338920309 475758 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338921541 452573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338923297 494627 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338923299 482412 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338923318 993304 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 I think ($) associates the wrong way in Prelude.Generalize < 1338923319 202522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338923346 679327 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 foo $ bar $ baz 10 doesn't work as it does with Prelude < 1338923346 912410 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338923388 131873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you hear about the other edge cases involved with temporarily overwriting a page with a syscall instruction? < 1338923407 448918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the page is memory-mapped from a file, modifying it will turn it into a private mapping. < 1338923413 11534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which it'll stay even if you turn it back. < 1338923794 54737 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1338923917 790399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "turn it back" I mean writing the old value back to the page, not unmapping and remapping, of course. < 1338924124 972454 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338924732 952342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: So when are you moving here? < 1338924810 789129 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338925561 221271 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338925573 564113 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338925983 866746 :billsha!~bill@CPE-124-183-140-59.lns15.ken.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338926072 591714 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338926095 360073 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338926446 78798 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338926483 180821 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338926715 734526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338926717 493087 :augur!~augur@206.196.184.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338926746 757505 :billsha!~bill@CPE-124-183-140-59.lns15.ken.bigpond.net.au PART :#esoteric < 1338926798 532827 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338926802 105357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1338926802 337368 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 12h 56m 31s ago: I like that "bug fix" in the modified C Deadfish interpreter. < 1338926905 866878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Wait, my bug fix or the anonymous ip one? < 1338926906 156969 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338927047 84451 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 Also, (!!) seems broken < 1338927047 292301 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338927182 793534 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 Neither (!!) nor (!!!) work for infinite lists < 1338927183 31323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338928152 67152 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338928152 969516 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338928231 508635 :billsha!~bill@CPE-124-183-140-59.lns15.ken.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338928286 854186 :billsha!~bill@CPE-124-183-140-59.lns15.ken.bigpond.net.au PART :#esoteric < 1338928433 457842 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338928445 968570 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338928927 890541 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1338928928 120518 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1338929373 137676 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338929483 327100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338929554 319329 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such things in mathematics as the "algebraic infinity" where it is treated like an algebraic variable representing a nonzero real number, and then is considered greater than all real numbers in a comparison? < 1338929554 657352 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You have 4 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338929565 928349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages < 1338929566 133814 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 1h 44m 6s ago: I think ($) associates the wrong way in Prelude.Generalize < 1338929566 313499 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 1h 43m 39s ago: foo $ bar $ baz 10 doesn't work as it does with Prelude < 1338929566 473281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 41m 58s ago: Also, (!!) seems broken < 1338929566 473476 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb said 39m 43s ago: Neither (!!) nor (!!!) work for infinite lists < 1338929598 729467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I know it associates the other way; this is on purpose. If (!!) is broken then thanks I will attempt to fix it < 1338929624 889468 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, can I ask why you want it to associate the other way? < 1338929668 736457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want foo(bar(baz 10)) then write foo . bar $ baz 10 instead. < 1338929682 53025 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1338929702 7995 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338929713 96338 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..] !! 0 < 1338929714 102104 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1338929726 686948 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't halt with Prelude.Generalize < 1338929736 997566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably for !! it should be foldlM < 1338929751 972746 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you use foldl < 1338929755 824248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think that would fix it? At the time I wrote that I didn't know foldlM < 1338929793 793994 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd need to be able to short-ciruit < 1338929802 90544 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid I don't know foldlM < 1338929823 300325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :foldlM :: (Foldable t, Monad m) => (a -> b -> m a) -> a -> t b -> m a -- Defined in Data.Foldable < 1338930084 343159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, using foldlM fixed it. < 1338930136 448567 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338930148 448800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I upload the next version, that, as well as other things, are fixed. < 1338930148 608731 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you can tell, I'm actually using Prelude.Generalize < 1338930171 662883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is good because the more is use, the more things mistakes can be found and improvement suggested. < 1338930308 134199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notice also that lists are Copeanoid which allows many kind of codes to be shortened < 1338930318 522345 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, cool! < 1338930580 333150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : zzo38, can I ask why you want it to associate the other way? <-- i recall Cale thinks it is more useful that way < 1338930615 906855 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, hmm < 1338930696 271038 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to URL escape unicode codepoints? < 1338930786 172021 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-150-248.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The accepted convention is to URL escape UTF-8 bytes. < 1338930789 20741 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1338930802 70524 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My attempt didn't work on this thing anyway < 1338930813 962455 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to mess with http://gryphonllc.com/irc/hulk.php?smash=a < 1338930864 713872 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-150-248.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correction, that's the defined behavior per RFC 3986. < 1338931135 966640 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338931582 964594 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338931609 4419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now capable of being awake and asleep at the same time! < 1338931630 753710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusion: MDude is a dolphin. < 1338931664 967460 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338932727 455212 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1338932742 357211 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :click-click-wistle < 1338932918 492318 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95DF2.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338933521 513675 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1338933522 417714 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-145.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338935140 251696 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338935672 461573 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338935673 39902 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338935969 952480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/mov/depot/APOD/latest_APOD_HMIC_FR.jpg < 1338936448 590050 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that link didn't work, but see here http://sunearthday.nasa.gov/webcasts/nasaedge/ < 1338936468 903935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it worked a moment ago < 1338936473 899497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit large < 1338936520 779087 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming it was a venus transit image? < 1338936566 158955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's supposedly updated every 15 mins < 1338936855 544010 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my link is a live stream, it's good < 1338937064 238327 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338937064 434705 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338938200 367938 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the reviews for this hotel said the breakfast was bad. < 1338938206 656490 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the reviews in English, anyway. < 1338938211 619259 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell were they smoking? < 1338938223 586104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :salmon. < 1338938231 441776 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steamed buns, fried noodles, fresh steamed cabbage, various pickled vegetables. < 1338938236 772860 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The breakfast here is friggin' awesome. < 1338938256 221300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reviews did say _why_ it was bad, i hope? < 1338938256 661728 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame: White people. < 1338938263 520350 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just that they didn't like it. < 1338938295 211966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it's Gregor < 1338938301 421000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :assume it smells horrible, then. < 1338938307 692669 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite probable! < 1338938313 356269 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it tasted divine! < 1338938330 901849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fnarfed < 1338938338 91756 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1338938362 366134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets an inkling Gregor is slightly tired of these jokes < 1338938436 723394 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the painful truth to them that really hurts me ;) < 1338938449 356968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338938574 796840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines it now: "Cursed by a rare condition, his dream of becoming a famous restaurant critic seemed beyond reach." < 1338938613 549898 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you're the same time as perth, australia < 1338938622 649748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*forever beyond < 1338938633 780854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is? < 1338938637 32832 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1338938638 131587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Gregor < 1338938638 825899 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Gregor is Tue Jun 5 19:23:54 < 1338938653 537590 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me, I add 3 hours and swap am/pm < 1338938666 350118 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in the exact opposite timezone of the one indicated there. < 1338938670 292608 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to that makes it 7:24am < 1338938687 626611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: so jetlag from hell? < 1338938700 562804 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically as bad as jetlag could conceivably be, yes. < 1338938707 583025 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I ate breakfast for breakfast, so that's a good start. < 1338938715 706795 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I ate breakfast because I forgot to eat dinner last night ... < 1338938766 245138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION currently is eating breakfast for dinner at 1:25 AM < 1338938816 816604 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-150-248.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It's pretty likely that those reviewers just weren't well-accustomed to non-Americanised Chinese food. < 1338938829 319777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's breakfast according to what i'm eating, but dinner according to how long since i slept < 1338938842 348285 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: /Maybe/, but like, steamed buns? How can ANYONE not like good steamed buns. It's loony. < 1338938871 90249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I actually have a name for the meal you eat between about 1 and 5 am, it's "antilunch" < 1338938871 312570 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338938874 340596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1338938874 563272 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia asked 23h 14m 27s ago: has anyone before written a program that uses larger offsets on longer tapes? < 1338938874 745651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said 23h 13m 1s ago: has anyone before quintopia written a program that uses larger offsets on longer tapes? < 1338938881 352251 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-150-248.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: There are people in the US today that still think a Chinese buffet is "exotic". < 1338938881 966619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah < 1338938888 489868 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-150-248.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may now be depressed. < 1338938892 422276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't think so, but I don't see how it would help < 1338938897 35869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi < 1338938898 930041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this is not yet a standard English word, but I want to make one < 1338938902 667132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: aargh < 1338938910 385931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Did my context help? < 1338938915 125813 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: But those are not the people who travel to Beijing. < 1338938929 640386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not really I was pretty amused at seeing the same question twice < 1338938930 3175 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-150-248.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. True. < 1338938939 203018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is more appropriate for antilunch, pasta or antipasta? < 1338938947 138155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, quintopia asked a question and someone mentioned there wasn't enough context. < 1338938951 281362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I added a bit more. < 1338938971 593854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the shops aren't open at antilunchtime, so you eat whatever you can actually prepare as a meal < 1338938975 250724 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-150-248.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, not travel to Beijing and survive to their first meal. I'd imagine being extremely racist to the natives doesn't give you a long life expectancy. :P < 1338938993 588730 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: It's hard to be racist to them when they don't understand a word you say. < 1338939007 256569 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or vice-versa) < 1338939009 595211 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-150-248.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I suspect they can infer what "CHING CHONG DING DONG" means. < 1338939013 856531 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1338939017 403747 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It means I love you" < 1338939048 484438 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zulEMWj3sVA (In case you don't know what I'm referring to) < 1338939330 158807 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338939385 865973 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: more specifically, you expect to encounter smaller decoys first and bigger ones later, so it may be favorable to increase offset size with each decoy encountered < 1338939400 507272 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for as long as that fact is true) < 1338939402 692278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1338939418 743744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that's the case (and I also think the way juggernought sets decoys is stupid) < 1338939481 314969 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ffspg goes back and increase sizes of decoys, yes? so you'd see the small ones first and then the big oens < 1338939495 130764 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338939516 27394 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd expect raising the offset size after, say, 2 decoys, could save you time on those two < 1338939537 627862 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl gotta look at the sun again