< 1338510008 104115 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with porting is that you don't do any design < 1338510153 176654 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the word design here is really terrible, but i mean it as, for instance, cat is a design < 1338510207 731449 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then someone can be asked to port cat < 1338510451 134522 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ang.wikipedia.org = Ænglisc :-s < 1338511548 574909 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> sleep < 1338511549 544821 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1338511551 823630 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338512577 838254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338512669 932329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho < 1338512671 238545 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1338512695 731468 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's dubious how many blizzard games have anglo-saxon wikipedia pages < 1338513150 69761 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.. the one guy created 9 pages about blizzard, and also created the category < 1338513518 251996 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm.. ok he created the video games category too, so it's all very boring < 1338513911 7056 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-166-93.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338514217 37982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah! < 1338514485 911301 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-166-93.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me! < 1338514555 405895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah! < 1338515214 12743 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what kind of food. dont have money. < 1338515219 849073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338515227 424088 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp < 1338515237 982063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338515264 418931 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what food to buy < 1338515272 343180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheap good food < 1338515280 511288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :edible < 1338515281 172810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fod < 1338515282 504170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :food < 1338515290 619486 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338515293 689109 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good criterion < 1338515298 511150 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll make list: < 1338515302 661457 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :-cheap < 1338515304 711166 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :-good < 1338515306 893397 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :-edible < 1338515318 991521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick two! < 1338515330 184526 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: halp < 1338515362 881402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands quintopia some delicious poison for free < 1338515409 499941 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :poison? i have decided that edible is more important than good < 1338515421 653349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1338516854 104276 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1338518136 890562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338519595 43293 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bread and milk < 1338519670 235449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338519772 735445 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are to drink the milk from a ceramic mug, and rip off pieces of the bread with your bare hands < 1338519795 470420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls when he used to browse the reddit frontpage and r/all, there were sometimes posts about how to get enough food with very little money < 1338519825 366 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia's critereon are pretty lousy < 1338519854 397303 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: criteria < 1338519860 264450 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the plural < 1338519863 803089 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338519887 188922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: /r/frugal? < 1338519893 185398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're a bit nutty, I think :P < 1338519905 153062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was about to link it :P < 1338519911 623581 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :focus on optimizing sources of nutrients such as protein and carbohydrates, as well as vitamins and minerals < 1338519932 273565 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :edible and good is for the rich < 1338519942 53032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Frugal/comments/u13qa/we_rfrugal_week_1_frugal_food/ was linked in the sidebar < 1338520048 661943 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some people value time over money, and others money over time" hmm thats one way of putting it, another way of putting it is that employed people have less time and more money, and vice versa < 1338520064 884745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from there you can find http://www.reddit.com/r/budgetfood < 1338520082 707033 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except some people on welfare have a good life and some people on welfare do not < 1338520136 855202 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, the reason for _that_ is that some people on welfare have parasites around them < 1338520147 933202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338520148 5331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: although i wasn't originally thinking so much about r/frugal as about "help i only have $NN for the next 3 weeks how can i survive?" < 1338520158 929680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(approximate title there) < 1338520234 722323 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, valuing time over money is more of a function of circumstances than an exercize in free will < 1338520327 658336 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i really mean is that, some poeple have more time than money, and others have more money than time < 1338520347 287251 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338520355 23462 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they "value" that which they have less of < 1338520602 851016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o'reilly have published a book on dwarf fortress < 1338520605 738203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? < 1338520610 345363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help < 1338520627 968512 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1338520628 876651 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338520632 965728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920022565.do < 1338520633 710114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :orly? < 1338520638 362552 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat < 1338520640 2480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1338520640 916923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :understand < 1338520669 89733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think i'm going to have to buy it so i can point to the turning point in civilisation in the future when we all live in houses made out of cellophane and breathe glass and mate with antennae < 1338520689 415570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Phantom_Hoover http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920022565.do ??????????????? < 1338520689 594164 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338520976 383861 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-107.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338521171 137958 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-143-219.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338521174 924642 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found this while looking up that http://i37.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0530/c2/04e811128cee4d89747f9621a5756fc2.jpeg < 1338522074 517071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1338522264 886882 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: your name is now Robert J! Lake. As such, you are no longer my baby nephew. < 1338522272 384728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338522319 973586 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so. This language in which all computation is carried out via rounding errors. < 1338522368 961289 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a program should consists of a list of instructions that are looped through forever. The program will have access to an arbitrary but finite number of variables each capable of holding an arbitrary non-negative integer. < 1338522389 462014 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every variable is initialized to 1. < 1338522458 14280 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three instructions: "add Y to X", "multiply X by 2^(Y/3) and round", and "divide X by 2^(Y/3) and round". < 1338522470 326692 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the language. < 1338522565 11418 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be Turing-complete. I have no idea how one would go about proving it either way. < 1338522603 77295 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the name of a variable must consist entirely of numerals, and the first of these cannot be 0. < 1338522801 355146 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we'll make that "round down", to avoid ambiguity. < 1338522983 78304 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a program, I guess: http://pastie.org/4005760 < 1338523016 482724 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :After n > 0 iterations, 1 has the value 1, 2 has the value 3, 3 has the value 2^n, and 4 has the value 2^(n+1) - 1. I think. < 1338523148 175842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the benefit of future generations: < 1338523148 637838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1338523149 845858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 >> 2 < 1338523150 11821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 += 1 < 1338523152 109955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 += 1 < 1338523154 163302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 += 1 < 1338523156 157242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 << 2 < 1338523158 71000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 += 3 < 1338523160 64684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1338523814 26160 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I don't think multiplication by 2^(1/3) is actually a useful operation. < 1338523837 353260 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, let's do the same, except these are the operations: < 1338523858 813982 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"subtract Y from X", "calculate the number of groups of order X". < 1338525164 774474 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-230-142.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338525201 150418 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338525282 451289 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338525409 243824 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-107.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338525689 90175 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338525689 162605 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1338525689 162751 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338525734 262293 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338526801 800443 :Brian-M!79db73a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.219.115.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338526851 186047 :Brian-M!79db73a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.219.115.164 QUIT : < 1338527150 656807 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338527467 67086 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1338528165 951615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages < 1338528166 123681 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf asked 2d 1h 9m 16s ago: hi < 1338528166 483736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb asked 10h 53m 45s ago: What does fair do? < 1338528366 275850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Read the document for MonadLogic for some information about >>- it is a fair junction or something like that; fair ["Hello", "World"] = "HWeolrllod"; fair ["Hello", "World", "12345"] = "HWe1lol2or3l4d5" < 1338528382 643774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is something like join but using a different order < 1338528784 299148 :cswords__!~cswords@2601:d:a900:0:6d72:fbf:81fe:b2f9 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338528807 517038 :cswords__!~cswords@2601:d:a900:0:6d72:fbf:81fe:b2f9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338530948 697629 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FORTRAN's tragic fate has been its wide acceptance. APL is a mistake. students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration. < 1338530963 200712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338530969 693624 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LISP has assisted a number of our most gifted fellow humans in thinking previously impossible thoughts. < 1338531157 660367 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The use of COBOL cripples the mind < 1338531187 216387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338531216 858052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You know Control.Concurrent.Spawn? < 1338531221 368759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338531238 915083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the way you're supposed to use "pool"? < 1338531257 665907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of do { runOne <- pool limit; parMapIO_ (runOne . foo) [1..n] }, but that still spawns n threads most of which do nothing at any point in time, which seems like it might not be strictly necessary. < 1338531267 501165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realise kmc is in here right < 1338531278 728027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but he's not responding. < 1338531283 461573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In the other channel, at least.) < 1338531284 192530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: anyway that sounds correct to me < 1338531303 470225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But spawning a million threads is annoying when most of them are just waiting on the QSem. < 1338531308 225870 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :full PL/1, with its growth characteristics of a dangerous tumor, could turn out to be a fatal disease. < 1338531310 993607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular it means that my program is slow and takes 100% CPU < 1338531342 678929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does runOne do that? < 1338531438 387147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :parMapIO_ does < 1338531870 575179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[no comment] < 1338531879 322545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im slep < 1338531904 50485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, now I see. < 1338531905 708814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38? < 1338531930 163941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK? < 1338531938 91592 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :catch some z's? < 1338531947 753125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Any ideas? < 1338531954 64271 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338531957 655762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea of...? < 1338531969 951039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How pool is supposed to be used. < 1338531975 840313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1338532042 987952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338533028 484376 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338535128 305910 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338538662 128940 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338538750 28006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote monqy.*hit < 1338538758 691945 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :815) hack and back? works on anything much slower than you at the cost of: guilt, hating yourself, me sending you the message "hi" am I also forbidden to cast mephitic cloud and cblink i will also send you "hi" if you: kite excessively, use mephitic cloud, -yes \ 829) imagine hitting a brick wall really really hard but you don't do anything to it. instead you explode. < 1338538768 572115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote monqy.*brick.wall < 1338538772 587345 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :829) imagine hitting a brick wall really really hard but you don't do anything to it. instead you explode. that's what it's like for people who hit you < 1338539385 97674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "i quoted you in another channel" < 1338539393 284217 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no what happened < 1338539401 373910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not hing < 1338539450 885569 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have logs of what happened it's my quote I want to know!! < 1338539492 914076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:19 imagine hitting a brick wall really really hard but you don't do anything to it. instead you explode. that's what it's like for people who hit you < 1338539496 908269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:19 I want something like that, except for sending SIGHUP instead of hitting < 1338539507 210075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because my process is getting a SIGHUP and I don't know why. :-( < 1338539521 805726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1338539528 877075 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there was some ants today < 1338539541 780351 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, they .. apparently lost interest < 1338539583 333241 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i feel rejected or relieved < 1338539610 390555 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless THEY were the scouts < 1338539944 240416 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338540129 81659 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338541295 883717 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-187.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338541314 784643 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-230-142.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338543795 291926 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh for... < 1338543795 844482 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338543810 136367 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get Bastion from the HiB and the checksum's wrong. < 1338543858 840237 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1338544349 79426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't it some sort of ridiculous size. < 1338544352 633855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think many of them were. < 1338544355 58589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, gigabytes. < 1338544375 883978 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what!? gigabytes? < 1338544411 388309 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only got HD that has over 512MB 6 years ago < 1338544760 726750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the Linux versions, Amnesia: The Dark Descent is "1.1 GB", Bastion "1019 MB", and Psychonauts "4.1 GB". < 1338544780 515135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIMBO and that Sword & Sorcery thing are rather smaller. < 1338544867 316200 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338544946 115651 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 + 1 < 1338544947 56249 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1338544951 96972 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew < 1338545050 169456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a relief. < 1338545077 399944 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallelujah praise the lord < 1338545078 662695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 1 + 1 = 3 in 1 + 1 < 1338545079 745066 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1338545084 659768 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 1 = 2 < 1338545085 822091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : not an expression: `let 1 = 2' < 1338545103 635756 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.o < 1338545115 651160 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1338545118 177514 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you broke it < 1338545128 548421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you didn't give it a complete expression. < 1338545138 4539 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338545138 985396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 1 = 2 in 1 -- sadly, it is still just 1 < 1338545140 247826 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1338545148 489407 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1338545161 588362 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant express myself completely if i cant set 1 to 2 < 1338545378 186984 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl + [1..10] < 1338545379 190886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `(a -> b -> a) -> a -> [b] -> a' < 1338545379 408680 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : again... < 1338545393 298384 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 2+2 lights! < 1338545411 326863 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :let 2+2=5 in 2+2 < 1338545420 51855 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+2=5 in 2+2 < 1338545421 172781 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1338545429 479936 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.. lambdabot is wrong < 1338545440 534894 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 4 lights < 1338545442 812193 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hes a robot < 1338545444 815937 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :he cant be wrong < 1338545450 169574 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :your human < 1338545452 12383 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :your wrong < 1338545491 131062 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humm < 1338545499 823683 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+2=5 in 2+3 < 1338545500 839237 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: :3:4-8: Non-exhaustive patterns in function + < 1338545512 792586 :cswords__!~cswords@2601:d:a900:0:6d72:fbf:81fe:b2f9 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338545532 850857 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree lambdabot < 1338545541 663603 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+2=5 in 1+3 < 1338545541 735944 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus is wrong < 1338545542 619472 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: :3:4-8: Non-exhaustive patterns in function + < 1338545555 872032 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 'a' < 1338545556 964225 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'a' < 1338545562 788463 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 'a' + 1 < 1338545563 722270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Num.Num GHC.Types.Char) < 1338545563 889267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from the literal `1... < 1338545584 915740 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+2=5 in 4 < 1338545586 34670 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1338545605 354905 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr $ ord 'a' + 1 < 1338545606 399754 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'b' < 1338545628 122103 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 2+2=5 in 5-1 < 1338545629 275164 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1338545659 172622 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (chr . (+1) . ord) 'a' < 1338545661 67456 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'b' < 1338545667 903299 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't mind me. i don't know haskell and i'm extremely bored < 1338545682 53037 :cswords__!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338545682 947011 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats oke < 1338545684 440609 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here < 1338545687 973915 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1338545703 789905 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89045.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338545706 727589 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (chr.(+1).ord) "Same here" < 1338545706 800064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> succ 'a' < 1338545708 24550 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : can't find file: L.hs < 1338545709 171860 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Tbnf!ifsf" < 1338545722 932431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a confusion. < 1338545725 346736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> succ 'a' < 1338545726 567715 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'b' < 1338545731 825684 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh nice < 1338545740 373909 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :map succ "Same here" < 1338545745 249484 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map succ "Same here" < 1338545746 166276 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Tbnf!ifsf" < 1338545748 795106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works for any Enum. < 1338545753 200644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t succ < 1338545753 516129 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> succ succ 'a' < 1338545754 234875 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Enum a) => a -> a < 1338545754 673609 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Enum.Enum (GHC.Types.Char -> GHC.Types.Char)) < 1338545754 673871 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arisi... < 1338545778 253083 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> succ succ succ 'a' < 1338545779 167575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Enum.Enum (GHC.Types.Char -> GHC.Types.Char)) < 1338545779 277188 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arisi... < 1338545788 80264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> succ . succ . succ $ 'a' -- keep on sucking. < 1338545789 931676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'd' < 1338545801 717949 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338545810 50262 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate succ 'a' !! 10 < 1338545811 162038 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'k' < 1338545821 345934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: So efficient. < 1338545839 857872 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let twice f = f . f in twice succ 'a' < 1338545841 790774 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'c' < 1338545846 399648 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ['a'..] !! 10 < 1338545847 294756 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'k' < 1338545872 147237 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 'k' < 1338545873 178609 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'k' < 1338545910 131155 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> k < 1338545911 28674 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : k < 1338545920 996556 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let power f n = f . f . f .. n in power succ 10 'a' < 1338545921 907710 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `..' < 1338545924 713157 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to do this? < 1338545925 350496 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>'k' < 1338545996 725242 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..] < 1338545997 807614 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28... < 1338546014 425414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> succ (maxBound :: Char) -- TO OUTER LIMITS ... AND BEYOND < 1338546015 589916 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.Enum.Char.succ: bad argument < 1338546017 204338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1338546025 738482 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Haskell Curry < 1338546026 863903 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `Haskell'Not in scope: data constructor `Cur... < 1338546027 278197 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1338546039 548690 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> i am awesome < 1338546040 833281 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr . (+1) . ord $ '\x10ffff' < 1338546041 39135 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `am'Not in scope: `awesome' < 1338546043 323591 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.chr: bad argument: 1114112 < 1338546115 659608 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: \x110000 is the name of the $deity. < 1338546150 179634 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> '\x110000' < 1338546151 16240 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : < 1338546151 192376 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at chara... < 1338546171 283898 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let power f n r = if n == 1 then r else power f (n-1) (f . r) < 1338546172 416739 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : not an expression: `let power f n r = if n == 1 then r else power f (n-1) (... < 1338546198 476223 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let power f n r = if n == 1 then r else power f (n-1) (f . r) in power succ 10 () 'a' < 1338546199 557665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `f a' against inferred type `()' < 1338546210 258580 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let power f n r = if n == 1 then r else power f (n-1) (f . r) in power succ 10 succ 'a' < 1338546212 244345 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'k' < 1338546215 50621 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unsafeCoerce 0x110000 :: Char < 1338546215 935653 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `unsafeCoerce' < 1338546225 328773 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :'\1114112' < 1338546295 138557 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (chr . (ord 'A' + ) . ord) "Albert" < 1338546296 944955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\130\173\163\166\179\181" < 1338546324 381243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Haskell is just not good enough to express it. < 1338546352 513942 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (1+) [1..] < 1338546353 547051 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,2... < 1338546373 866980 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :this lambdabot is a clever fella < 1338546393 108010 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language is that < 1338546396 762670 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell < 1338546399 835252 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just kidding < 1338546406 533405 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITS NOT FUNNY < 1338546447 291343 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let "hes just kidding" = "ok" in "hes just kidding" < 1338546448 389574 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hes just kidding" < 1338546492 294052 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> i = 5 < 1338546493 281334 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `=' < 1338546503 345106 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let i = 5 < 1338546504 414781 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : not an expression: `let i = 5' < 1338546511 787347 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> global i = 5 < 1338546512 811440 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `=' < 1338546514 876027 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff < 1338546585 637458 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "I" > "You" < 1338546586 550667 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1338546589 760067 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.o < 1338546591 780662 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1338546635 875706 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "Albert" `max` "lambdabot" < 1338546636 764230 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "lambdabot" < 1338546642 405843 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: hey < 1338546666 507816 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen hey < 1338546666 686773 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a great day for France! < 1338546666 935287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A proud bot. < 1338546708 960745 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I had a lambdabot, I would take her to the park. < 1338546721 38647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What do you think of your fellow bot? < 1338546721 908963 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: dd does binary doesn't it? :) fnord je? :) taken me all night to watch this show!" < 1338546735 63797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... < 1338546828 791140 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-194-035.wlan.tudelft.nl PART :#esoteric < 1338548914 54052 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@ip-85-163-163-251.eurotel.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1338549629 441296 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-190-137.wlan.tudelft.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338549637 294404 :_niels!83b49825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.180.152.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338549645 775726 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-190-137.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :_niels: hey! < 1338549649 335294 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-190-137.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1+ 1 < 1338549650 512646 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1338549682 953074 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-190-137.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :_niels: try it out < 1338549733 246723 :_niels!83b49825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.180.152.37 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reverse "trebla olleh" < 1338549734 477211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hello albert" < 1338549739 868971 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-190-137.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1338549775 381244 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-190-137.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (succ . reverse) "slein olleh" < 1338549775 821054 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338549776 640931 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Enum.Enum [GHC.Types.Char]) < 1338549776 858040 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `... < 1338549779 100086 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338549846 543615 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-190-137.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 1+1=2 in 1+1 < 1338549847 955607 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1338549881 627856 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-190-137.wlan.tudelft.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 1+1=3 in 1+1 < 1338549882 942088 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1338549895 584952 :labbekak!~Admin@wlan-145-94-190-137.wlan.tudelft.nl PART :#esoteric < 1338549920 397039 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338549977 914503 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You've been talked to. < 1338549982 404063 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338549983 183492 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah! < 1338549987 379024 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messags? < 1338549987 621396 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1338549994 651418 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That typo works!? < 1338549998 186655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:26 Taneb: Read the document for MonadLogic for some information about >>- it is a fair junction or something like that; fair ["Hello", "World"] = "HWeolrllod"; fair ["Hello", "World", "12345"] = "HWe1lol2or3l4d5" < 1338550001 578290 :_niels!83b49825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.180.152.37 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338550003 995463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:26 So it is something like join but using a different order < 1338550021 590890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The regular sort of talked to, not via the bot. < 1338550039 497691 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSVO of talked to < 1338550096 761630 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also regular < 1338550662 896608 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@ip-85-163-163-251.eurotel.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338550723 773535 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, past zzo38! < 1338550734 189569 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@ip-85-163-163-251.eurotel.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1338551051 389680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The once and future zzo38. (I don't recall what that references.) < 1338551070 210541 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arthurian mythology < 1338551077 958408 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :King Arthur, the once and future king < 1338551079 144263 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1338551095 616601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think so too, though I believe via something else. < 1338551329 98955 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338551980 53339 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@ip-85-163-163-251.eurotel.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338552014 367351 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@ip-85-163-44-171.eurotel.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1338552299 702363 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a short story by someone, I think < 1338552473 533957 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338552922 248516 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: TANEB AWAY! < 1338553128 748323 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@ip-85-163-44-171.eurotel.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338553749 764078 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1338553808 956968 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338555253 945240 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338555257 357248 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338555851 72119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338555969 37811 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338555970 392161 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338555981 649228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338555988 702037 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338556045 248506 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! < 1338556045 421955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1338556642 110646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1338557729 790514 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338557746 366328 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338558469 704783 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338560624 953870 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338560625 64366 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1338560625 64536 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338560809 362607 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338561024 652561 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1338561927 85732 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@ip-37-188-173-52.eurotel.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1338561937 16715 :Frooxius|TabletP!~chatzilla@ip-37-188-173-52.eurotel.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338564076 898046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1338564674 128887 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1338566294 363460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338566295 552432 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 7 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338566523 316243 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott And now you have 8. < 1338566523 497269 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338566558 501111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338566559 163046 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1338566561 604989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong!!!! < 1338566775 127869 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1338567484 365789 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338568195 82294 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338568315 99600 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338568996 381881 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89045.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338571071 253203 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338571181 725856 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338572975 390352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338575312 219449 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338575320 418604 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just realised I am unable to program in C < 1338575384 332845 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338575401 331336 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338575409 294604 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338575409 368007 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-26-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1338575409 368173 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338575414 139033 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338575602 640997 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338575919 9157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you see this as a problem? < 1338575934 671777 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see it as a mild annoyance < 1338575957 142759 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means I'm not going to win the IOCCC any time soon < 1338576035 90848 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 reason to program in C, obviously. < 1338576041 578319 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely < 1338576343 515021 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of hate VXJunkies, because it traps people who think it's real < 1338576366 851232 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1338576382 556801 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/VXJunkies < 1338576386 814959 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does not help < 1338576430 150124 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/VXJunkies/comments/rt7pa/new_to_vx_help/ < 1338576446 289437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this just in: Sgeo__ "hates jokes; they're misleading" < 1338576472 422958 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is just < 1338576474 421900 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fake science? < 1338576482 679632 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I more hate not actually explaining the joke to people who don't get it and think it's real < 1338576500 122280 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, fake ... some sort of principle machines < 1338576519 977353 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FAQ http://www.reddit.com/r/VXJunkies/comments/ewihz/ < 1338576617 88629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, time for an "am I crazy or not" question: reducing the number of bugs Splint finds in my code by finding false positives and patching Splint to detect them correctly < 1338576620 118225 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sent two messages to people in that subreddit who may have thought it was real < 1338576659 207897 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, would these be general use patches or would their general use result in false negatives? < 1338576682 516744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're meant to be general use, although (obviously) might be buggy < 1338576704 718629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazingly, I managed to get two false positives in the same line < 1338576724 954511 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. got staticaly linked sash to work. < 1338576796 514127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/* at file scope */ typedef /*@dependent@*/ int* dependentint_p; static dependent_int global_array_of_dependent_ints[10]; /*@dependent@*/ int *foo(void) {return global_array_of_dependent_ints[5];} < 1338576826 621056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bugs were a) it was checking to see if the global was owned, rather than owned /or/ dependent; b) it was checking the annotation on the array itself, rather than the array's elements < 1338576849 45659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I have replaced a bunch of for loops with do-while loops because Splint is a little braindead with respect to loops < 1338576878 700177 :Wallabee!~IceChat9@99-63-46-159.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338576909 562292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?welcome Wallabee < 1338576912 654925 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?welcome: not found < 1338576920 2747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Wallabee < 1338576923 569880 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wallabee: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338576956 61157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, dreadnaught is now beating everything but counterpoke? ouch < 1338576962 266114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like I made counterpoke just in time < 1338577135 614390 :Wallabee!~IceChat9@99-63-46-159.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net PART :#esoteric < 1338577810 686838 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, Wallabee is probably Gregor < 1338577830 394035 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1338577852 564451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely accuses itidus20 of being Gregor < 1338577868 771007 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Gregor is a wallabee < 1338577874 702365 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm Lawlabee. < 1338577877 984096 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wallaby. < 1338577884 463090 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My species is still spelled properly. < 1338578293 816830 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@remember mrwright Some people, when faced with a problem, say "I know, I'll use transfinite induction over the ordinals!" Now they have a class-sized collection of problems. < 1338578293 935182 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is forever etched in my memory. < 1338578369 18942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338578680 4829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1338579716 240126 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just learnt that parameter optimization is VERY slow... < 1338579761 969437 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: CRAZY SUGGESTION: !bf_joust_test < 1338579829 605267 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using an offline compiled version of EgoJoust to run the tests, although it would be nice to have a server function to do the same. < 1338579947 323934 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... even after half an hour my optimizer still hasn't found a better configuration. < 1338580014 894818 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you've reached the optimum < 1338580050 134270 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it, the version up right now is barely optimized at all. < 1338580080 467375 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... more waiting! < 1338580193 370297 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338580482 219680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, egojoust is quite slow, isn't it? < 1338580506 494269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego doesn't use egojoust < 1338580511 721752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and egojoust is very buggy < 1338580513 661621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why are you using it < 1338580521 116919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/chainlance < 1338580549 471949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chainlance is an entirely viable option < 1338580573 193533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since it's what egobot actually uses :P < 1338580650 826852 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would anyone mind if I rambled inanely for a while? < 1338580757 754811 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust dreadnought http://tinypaste.com/2ae75e0f/save.php?hash=32765885219c22e699c610e7ac7d6d28 < 1338580761 37590 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_dreadnought: 0.0 < 1338580771 129112 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1338580804 195272 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A part of your soul ties you to the next world, or maybe to the last. This world is just illusion, trying to change you. < 1338580850 380827 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust dreadnought http://tinypaste.com/d65f4df7/save.php?hash=f803e31d09c9d25051a6cff3bc4ea235 < 1338580853 641071 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_dreadnought: 66.8 < 1338580888 711806 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, my optimizer is making it worse. < 1338580919 899788 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust dreadnought http://tinypaste.com/89f64fa2/save.php?hash=2f8298684e97f172e414d2a18789d7af < 1338580924 306472 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_dreadnought: 70.9 < 1338580934 80538 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/anick MSleep < 1338580937 126829 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doof < 1338580944 330469 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 NICK :MDude < 1338580959 888946 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the "next world"? Presumably it's where you go when you die, or something like that. Does everyone go to the same "next world", or are there different ones for different people? < 1338580996 842291 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338581037 665359 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: not every goes to the next world, but you certainly cant get there if you die < 1338581054 180195 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to beat world 1 to get to world 2 < 1338581071 174192 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might can skip some worlds if you find a warp room < 1338581081 62710 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you die its game over < 1338581093 283572 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, of course. < 1338581128 164624 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are all of the worlds just illusion, or only some of them? < 1338581140 706960 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, you start with free lives, though, and get another live every hundred coins or when you eat a special mushroom < 1338581154 644667 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*three < 1338581156 777418 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-255-187.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338581262 539655 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you're not reallydead until all lives are gone. just set back a bit. the karma cycle ofrebirth goes on. < 1338582232 338674 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, hmm < 1338582258 334583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the whole UEFI thing is causing a row again < 1338582296 113927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because although on x86 (and not ARM) the bootloaders are meant to be open to new user-specified keys, you have to muck around in the BIOS to enable them < 1338582308 22103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Microsoft offered to sign Fedora's bootloader with Microsoft's key < 1338582313 650564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's a huge row about whether Fedora are selling out or not < 1338582322 573677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338582369 848658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any opinons here? it's a pretty interesting mess < 1338582382 120857 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm starting to think the openness of the PC platform is a historical accident which will not be repated < 1338582395 339177 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, well, now I'm depressed < 1338582437 724861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338582446 904742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1338582454 189558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your opinion on the UEFI thing? < 1338582477 900625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1338582513 493868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : so Microsoft offered to sign Fedora's bootloader with Microsoft's key < 1338582569 64397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not using pronouns because nobody would parse it correctly if I did) < 1338582600 322231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I read the blog post thing < 1338582605 798367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really "offer" < 1338582611 548763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they sell it < 1338582614 171121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict < 1338582632 924577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Fedora had to pay $99 (once), but to Verisign not Microsoft < 1338582646 912899 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-237-94.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338582659 898254 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-224-65.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338582660 59598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1338582777 336365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I actually think it's Microsoft genuinely trying to help < 1338582818 525220 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338582831 810497 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least we can take comfort in the fact that computer security is terrible < 1338582843 391285 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so even in the future when it's necessary to root your own laptop, it will be possible to do so < 1338582885 596080 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean this "secure boot" thing is pretty silly; are they really going to remove every feature and bug in the Linux kernel which allows root to execute code as ring0? < 1338583011 19594 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, it's just pretty damned shitty. < 1338583104 229261 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't improve security notably, it just makes things fairly inconvenient. < 1338583138 784108 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if an attacker is at the point where they could mess with the bootloader, they already own your box.) < 1338583166 282157 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the point... < 1338583178 81806 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why you want the bootloader to be cryptographically signed, in theory < 1338583193 11665 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except they own the box *even without touching the bootloader*. < 1338583199 859449 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :signed against a private key which is stored in a TPM chip or such < 1338583204 928877 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: how so < 1338583209 565048 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc is suspect. < 1338583219 919946 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you have an encrypted disk < 1338583222 411273 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you care about this stuff < 1338583241 425985 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, true, then you're good if it's someone with physical access to your box. < 1338583245 440150 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these discussions always devolve into "well, they *COULD* break out an ion deposition cannon and screw with the transistors on your CPU" < 1338583255 901420 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELKS is pretty awesome. It also shows how much bloat new apps have. I got a out of memory error when trying to start vi because I tried to start it under ash that was running on top of sash instead of directly from sash < 1338583256 572915 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :missing the point that security is about relative threat and countermeasure costs < 1338583259 584577 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are no absolutes < 1338583273 707255 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a remote attacker, yeah, your OS install is utterly suspect, even without the ability to mess with the bootloader. < 1338583280 162703 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: nobody cares that vim uses 2 megs of ram instead of 1 < 1338583282 683892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go back to 1985 < 1338583321 718021 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 'Scuse me, I'm offended that zlib has crc32 in 100k instead of 100 bytes. < 1338583336 649739 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes all this "bloated" software, so horrible that we're optimizing for the very expensive human time instead of very cheap computer resources < 1338583357 554756 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that to get 100k crc32 you have to pessimize human time as well as computer resources) < 1338583369 490586 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7 < 1338583373 449794 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I meant vi. Vim wouldn't even start (64kB limit for .text) < 1338583385 902442 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: that sounds like actually shit code < 1338583399 411636 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the usual whining about "bloat" is about fine code which omg doesn't use every cycle to maximum efficiency!!! < 1338583411 885893 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. When I talk about "bloated code" I mostly refer to stuff that is *actually a large quantity of code*. < 1338583426 633112 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because 99% of the time the metric that matters is how much code there is for humans to deal with. < 1338583436 474610 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well that's not what nortti_ was talking about < 1338583449 763768 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though he'd probably have better luck with smaller human code size. < 1338583494 747907 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338583496 335257 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: Which vi are you using? < 1338583535 127060 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: you meant on ELKS? I am not completely sure < 1338583554 289170 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that ELKS is anything but a curiosity at this point) < 1338583563 255838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, I just submitted the story to Slashdot, mostly because I'm really interested in the resulting comments < 1338583564 231 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :on slitaz I use busybox vi < 1338583566 797430 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean programming with restricted resources is a fun challenge < 1338583571 747486 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is sometimes required for embedded systems < 1338583604 24439 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though we're in a weird land where some embedded systems beat out 10 year old workstations. < 1338583635 252334 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that UEFI secure boit story? < 1338583641 496329 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, I'm not sure you can call "ARM in everything" "embedded" anymore. < 1338583641 826653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: yes < 1338583674 182621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a 50% success rate for Slashdot submissions before this one < 1338583675 641609 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's dumb when programmers get all smug and serious about a desktop app using 1 MB of RAM, which is $0.005 of RAM at current prices < 1338583678 905855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if it gets accepted or rejected < 1338583686 751994 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I've made this point enough times < 1338583694 290971 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_ seems oblivious or maybe I'm just misunderstanding their motivations < 1338583708 78988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean this http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/05/31/190217/red-hat-will-pay-microsoft-to-get-past-uefi-restrictions story? < 1338583728 706901 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yeah. Also the feeling when you realize that the speed of the phone your friend whines about is actually faster than your computer's < 1338583736 691664 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 1MiB of RAM? Heck, I might use that as a buffer. < 1338583772 593063 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(okay, okay, only if that's actually sane.) < 1338583797 696050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I looked for it, pity the search is still bad < 1338583806 447862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, at least it /still/ has a 50% chance of being accepted :) < 1338583813 42302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used this thing called Google. < 1338583814 256577 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to limit my programs to 64kB code+64kB stack&heap < 1338583831 661069 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: You're a bit nuts. < 1338583855 888688 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :== < 1338583879 178867 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yes I am < 1338583914 602766 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: More-so given that *even considering 8086's limitations* that sucker has no business being restricted to a single real mode segment per code, stack, heap. < 1338583948 83188 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, the addressing gets really ridiculous, but eh. < 1338584009 461321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my own prediction is that someone will find a way to jailbreak the UEFI protection pretty quickly < 1338584018 341892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps using bugs in Microsoft's bootloader < 1338584053 390780 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I want my code to run on all of my *nix systems including MINIX 1. Now I'll just hope I don't install lunix on my c64 < 1338584116 109315 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: it is more of a limitation in bcc < 1338584126 702372 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+under ELKS < 1338584133 995647 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1338584234 261842 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338584273 673089 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1338584381 625057 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK um < 1338584419 467939 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck is the point in a screen lock that includes a screensaver that is literally a transparent window moving around the screen < 1338584448 577618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: it doesn't stop people looking at your screen, but it does stop them giving commands to it < 1338584521 6393 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... would quite like it if they can't look at my screen, and I'm especially unhappy that it's not made clear that it can randomly decide to stop doing that. < 1338584680 696246 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338584702 799076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought it was an option, rather than something that happens randomly < 1338584776 305678 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338584777 170185 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338585165 49790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure, you cannot turn off those things? < 1338585179 980312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it include some screensaver, can you add/remove some? < 1338585247 729214 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1338585350 827826 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1338585953 254596 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-237-94.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338586379 577494 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1338586445 963598 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-146-204.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338586580 364592 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338586582 26073 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-146-81.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1338586588 40358 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338586625 325083 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338586724 413262 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338586727 405826 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338587156 974952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: help < 1338587854 543164 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89045.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338587912 13441 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338588421 47806 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338588444 679086 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1338588444 843595 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 10 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338588452 188736 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1338588494 178686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1338588496 593918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i died a few times < 1338588523 606056 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you permadie < 1338588525 766066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338588528 320881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ogak is playing right now < 1338588535 268335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's had "quality elliptic help" < 1338588540 432864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only died like 8 times so far anyway < 1338588547 357965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also did orc on another one < 1338588547 999657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1338588551 917482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to do lair on another one but it's almost dead < 1338588557 481400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gave more info in lambdabot and henzell messages :P < 1338588582 592552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: also you will be pleased to know: < 1338588585 878443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ogak has 5 gscs or so < 1338588591 964207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ready for a tukima's party" < 1338588619 936158 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaey < 1338588710 533855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are you watching < 1338588715 885896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it;s DISCOBRADECAPELLO on cao < 1338588757 717792 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338588767 197894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you have any suggestions < 1338588774 854689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i followed syraine's ogak guide it went "great" < 1338588790 11581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the guide is < 1338588798 731368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :train m&f and fighting, focus m&f, m&f until 12, fighting until 8, then fighting -> invocations < 1338588799 474333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except < 1338588801 832340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i died repeatedly < 1338588806 909602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i stopped following it because it's terrible < 1338588808 870969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just trained invo instead < 1338588810 608655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and syraine was really sad < 1338588841 124600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: additionally, help < 1338588876 419727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :team CHAOSTALK spreadsheet. fewn. syraine. mission 1. Comments: F_)ck FeWn < 1338588907 379273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338588912 127823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i watched it < 1338588912 722850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1338588914 196145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1338588946 968488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw i was going to disto the gsc < 1338588948 914241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but tukima's :( < 1338588974 655258 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the only problem with tukimas ogak < 1338589004 108200 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could disto it and just unwield once tukimas. worst case we get glowed to hell < 1338589004 724009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: apart from having to train to 27 hexes, apparently < 1338589012 503662 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the worst part < 1338589014 466157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: have you forgotten: abyss < 1338589028 729064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw i fell down a shaft from like D:7 to D:11 < 1338589029 995399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was "gr8" < 1338589035 742803 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lugonu, elliott < 1338589040 82758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1338589045 877970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lugonu is so great!!! < 1338589047 449801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite god < 1338589444 495743 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338589519 174058 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338589804 809182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the pan lords names were created in lowercase < 1338589812 869863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ha" -judge of username competition < 1338591873 963223 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1338591874 460187 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1338592042 796019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how is the vpar going < 1338592243 969641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw feel free to put rc stuff on the ogak < 1338592249 267268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it doesn't end up looking like squarelos < 1338593235 777018 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-115-242.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338593261 971096 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Thanks for letting me know about gearlance. It's working much better. < 1338593269 234490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1338593269 401695 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1338593269 497930 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /< < 1338593277 722646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the wiki still talk about egojoust? < 1338593281 438655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should probably be updated. < 1338593293 574992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to do gamma correction by integer arithmetic? < 1338593304 994072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any of the lances or juiced are reasonable for running tests < 1338593312 927992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I use juiced because I wrote it and it has some nifty features for testing) < 1338593336 772393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll still finish lance some day < 1338593344 237142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338593393 904365 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: The current configuration of dreadnought is nearly optimal, even though I barely optimized it. < 1338593423 854947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to gamma/contrast/brightness table by integer arithmetic? < 1338593473 685248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat: can't think of any way to beat counterpoke without losing a huge amount of ground to everything else? < 1338593502 17164 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Indeed. < 1338593510 466105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I've come to the conclusion that the main difference between counterpoke and things like ffspg is that it sets the decoys much nearer the square it pokes < 1338593537 617346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that the opponent has to be leaving evidence of their motion for it to work well < 1338593548 188933 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338593565 926229 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I have a test version that doesn't leave a trail. < 1338593580 214295 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It beats counterpoke, but only makes 3rd place. < 1338593597 389254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized I do have C documentation in my computer, in Cygwin, so I will use that < 1338593611 417908 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Counterpoke still does well, even without a trail, though. < 1338593612 710731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not leaving a trail leaves you vulnerable to regular rushes, unless you set large decoys < 1338593618 30367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It doesn't answer the gamma/contrast/brightness question, though) < 1338593624 572036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and indeed, the second half is optimized against trail-free programs < 1338593633 596030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the basis that it wouldn't even be reached for trailing programs < 1338593782 695204 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's strange that counterpoke is so low on the list. < 1338593791 779942 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-146-204.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338593794 170053 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-156-189.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338593837 268577 :george97!~george4li@41-184-84-250.rv.ipnxtelecoms.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338593866 85909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1338593880 830663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right next to insidious, which is a much more hopeless strategy < 1338593886 655649 :george97!~george4li@41-184-84-250.rv.ipnxtelecoms.com PART :#esoteric < 1338593944 737568 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beaten out by ill_bet_you_have_four_decoys ;) < 1338594142 775457 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust dreadnought http://tinypaste.com/65b19928/save.php?hash=7cc9e6cd41212521c6ab0d41cf88767e < 1338594146 288401 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_dreadnought: 71.2 < 1338594178 997894 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gained .3 points, still losing to counterpoke. < 1338594192 173532 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338594247 167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so do you still think bf joust is broken? < 1338594482 756301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's not as healthy as it could be < 1338594602 631162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not dead it's just resting < 1338594806 378223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, counterpoke falls off the tape against anticipation < 1338594817 801526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like counter-shudder isn't so useless after all :)