< 1338249721 150691 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338249909 3888 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338249944 201418 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> sleep
< 1338249945 332345 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338250126 685256 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-11.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338250328 779067 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-141-166.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338250620 668870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338250980 841892 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust davidwerecat_awful_22 ->+>->(-)*8>-->(+)*8>++>(-)*8>(+)*8(+)*8<(-)*8<++<(+)*8<--<(-)*8<-<+(+)*60>>>>>>>>([[+[+[--[-[-[(-)*22[+][-]]]]]]]]>)*21 < 1338250988 965999 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_davidwerecat_awful_22: 42.1 < 1338251030 114260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that awful < 1338251038 685252 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently... < 1338251084 350541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so awful it failed at being awful < 1338251158 231802 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1338251165 549138 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if it failed at failing to fail? < 1338251228 736849 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338251519 282442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix fail < 1338251520 389657 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "" < 1338251826 219020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1338252154 845496 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DD28.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338252633 641103 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338252685 250386 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338252687 312474 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1338253115 908256 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338253148 625826 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338253176 574515 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1338253984 687580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338254284 796546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1338254285 854964 :rszeno!~rszeno@86.125.231.236 PART :#esoteric < 1338254832 696637 :Fishspill!~Fishspill@pool-74-106-45-34.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338255103 967745 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338255118 52566 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this about esoteric programming languages? < 1338255159 715218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1338255163 217785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome drocta < 1338255165 590871 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool. < 1338255166 694792 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :drocta: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338255178 115983 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. < 1338255256 113060 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I wrote what I think is called a design doc for one, I'm not sure its clear enough though. its based on tuples. does anyone want to see it? < 1338255367 799376 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its about one page down long. < 1338255536 386901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can put it on the wiki if you want < 1338255564 642827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the channel is a bit silent at the moment < 1338255569 805501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338255581 954480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh elliott is still here. scratch that then. < 1338255587 506403 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1338255597 566145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: creys < 1338255633 503390 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1338255657 79192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably something about creyfish < 1338255753 323914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338255757 676422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bulldozers < 1338255759 710026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the sun & the moon < 1338255772 344585 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::? < 1338255795 226388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is slightly possible that elliott is getting tired, it's _way_ past his bedtime. < 1338255801 599765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only 02:43 < 1338255815 231887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did become a giraffe though < 1338255825 396936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drocta: i run the wiki btw < 1338255838 714074 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool < 1338255839 588706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, as of february or so) < 1338255902 955206 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does a language based on tuples dieing sound at all interesting? and also all the things the tuples consist of are tuples, < 1338255922 373657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuplocide < 1338255949 762692 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338255968 617201 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far ive been calling it ~ATH (tilde ath till death) < 1338255998 277261 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of flow control does it use? < 1338256017 128706 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are ~ATH loops that loop until the tuple dies < 1338256047 585639 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pretty much while loops) < 1338256109 72970 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it do i/o? < 1338256113 854721 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt yet < 1338256123 554260 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually doesnt have strings yet < 1338256128 558908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i/o is so overrated < 1338256133 81709 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even numbers, you have to implemetn numbers < 1338256141 384992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1338256146 430801 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make it have i/o based on tuples < 1338256154 399985 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what I was thinking < 1338256177 220822 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the first charecter would be the left half < 1338256187 258742 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second would be the left half of the right half < 1338256200 201128 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the third wold be the left of the right of the right and so on < 1338256223 443409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you seem to be reinventing lisp lists there. < 1338256237 341759 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda? < 1338256270 742914 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did this ever get posted here? http://colinm.org/language_checklist.html < 1338256311 459234 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Several times, I think. < 1338256311 654629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a life-safer! < 1338256317 471410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or destroyer, maybe < 1338256341 158037 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/n5eUm5UL is the design doc so far < 1338256388 532773 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahaha I have a language that qualifies for [ ] Computers have infinite memory < 1338256404 854744 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't found how to garbage collect it yet but it's really hard < 1338256462 902597 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohgosh i didnt see that the wordwrap would be a problem like that < 1338256570 583364 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ] You have reinvented PHP better, but that's still no justification < 1338256572 75489 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahahaha < 1338256612 105672 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, so, does php really have that bad of a reputation or? < 1338256669 879616 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338256675 438091 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1338256724 486154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes [ ] Shift-reduce conflicts in parsing seem to be resolved using rand()
< 1338256742 82423 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phhh < 1338256801 532427 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1338256814 548465 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a language where that's the only means of flow control < 1338256820 296653 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338256843 371478 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ] The name of your language makes it impossible to find on Google < 1338256888 75714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there have been previous ~ATH attempts before < 1338256894 934963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1338256903 924704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointing lack of colour < 1338256924 991141 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338256927 769842 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there have been? < 1338256944 217085 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive seen what people have written in it, but didnt know anyone wrote an interpreter < 1338256956 421625 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wrote bubblesort in it) < 1338256962 645661 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1338257012 855517 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks weird < 1338257027 188235 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of the interpreter, is storing the variables and objects in tries to memory intensive? < 1338257053 315031 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust awful_24 ->+>->(-)*8>-->(+)*8>++>(-)*8>(+)*8(+)*8<(-)*8<++<(+)*8<--<(-)*8<-<+(+)*60>(-)*60>>>>>>>([+[+[+[+[-----[-[-[-[(-)*22[+][-]]]]]]]]]]>)*21 < 1338257056 39953 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_awful_24: 45.7 < 1338257185 275295 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*too memory intensive < 1338257248 414092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drocta: don't worry about it < 1338257305 881906 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, thanks. I don't really have a good feel for how much memory it too much yet. < 1338257442 897836 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a language only has one type, is it strongly typed, dynamically typed, or what? < 1338257444 877872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably nothing is too much < 1338257450 75733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drocta: it's unityped < 1338257453 240404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can view it as untyped < 1338257458 89713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a statically-typed language with one type < 1338257463 903601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a dynamically-typed language with one type < 1338257466 880396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really matter < 1338257469 630674 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1338257619 661932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1338257624 60206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A non-spam email to lang@esoteric.sange.fi. < 1338257633 307260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa: You ran those lists, right? Who did you bribe? < 1338258120 875089 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... so far it seems ~ATH exhibits at least 29 of those problems. < 1338258307 478700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rather hard to avoid those marked with have/lacks, i'd say < 1338258332 304375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*has < 1338258522 678648 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift-reduce conflicts? < 1338258550 993238 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure exactly what those are < 1338258662 63708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: a type of ambiguity in LR(1) parsers. for example if you write a grammar rule expression ::= expression "+" expression, you get a shift-reduce conflict when parsing something like 1+2+3 < 1338258744 448204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the second +, should you _shift_ the + onto the parsing stack, which means parsing it as 1+(2+3), or should you _reduce_ the already parsed 1+2 part first, giving (1+2)+3 instead. < 1338258808 297795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means how to resolve shift-reduce conflicts determines e.g. the precedence of operators < 1338258857 316750 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338258968 832407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and vice versa, in yacc/bison the result of annotating tokens with precedence is to automatically choose shift or reduce in the resulting state machine) < 1338259084 519950 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338259123 731031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gist of that quote is "your language's syntax is so horrible no one can guess better than rand() how it parses" < 1338259349 913094 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rocks out to rick astley
< 1338261434 307936 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www-static.us.worlds.net/news/news_general.html < 1338261440 897010 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :News for today < 1338261449 856724 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Music news) < 1338261485 220501 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're from the past, anyway < 1338261521 944939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i'm from the past! < 1338261562 25305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's from 2001 nice < 1338261600 122664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And explain the whole Brainfuck thing. Anybody I know would say that's a swear word, and everybody < 1338261600 319254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :else as well. < 1338261601 460070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tyler Z < 1338261751 502091 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PART :#esoteric < 1338262450 610006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1338262726 859779 :drocta!62ff0f37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.255.15.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338264316 713703 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338265282 129928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1338265302 156790 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1338265302 441222 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 6 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1338265313 81655 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyth--oh--ing happen while i was away < 1338265326 931727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338265441 488880 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great lambdabot messags < 1338265490 39626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338266343 402956 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Can I have some great λ⊥ messages? < 1338266346 89454 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1338266358 513604 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask shachaf yes < 1338266358 752573 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338266544 656971 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy thanks < 1338266545 215880 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338266552 248617 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1338266552 443395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf asked 7s ago: thanks < 1338266560 40514 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask lambdabot Hey, where's my message notification? < 1338266560 625036 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1338266578 895490 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot I WAS ASKING YOU QUESTION. < 1338266579 479018 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1338267106 308451 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338267761 677937 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I happened to be there when Chris (from Catseye) lost his faith in the community, so to say. < 1338267779 947678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must have happened multiple times < 1338267801 173577 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this particular time Chris' reaction was something you could call trolling < 1338267821 315458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i'd call a fair proportion of things chris does :P < 1338267826 104710 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :as he was quite influential in the community, this created a lot of confusion < 1338267830 622219 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so it seemed to me < 1338267835 851781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was that? < 1338267844 425736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Anyway, I was asking who you bribed to get new non-spam posts today.) < 1338267852 131427 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I just offered to take the responsibility, and got Chris' support. < 1338267858 342160 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa < 1338267859 633595 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338267866 531514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did cpressey used to run the list? < 1338267873 673270 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could bribe myself, right? < 1338267895 894655 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it was originally esoteric@catseye.mb.ca or something like that < 1338267906 549186 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first esolang community that I know of < 1338267911 146313 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite productive, too. < 1338267923 182889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it all the archives are lost to history < 1338267925 164382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, fsvo productive < 1338268518 697297 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1338268738 251301 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@esoteric archives do exist < 1338268738 491221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1338268752 337841 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessee < 1338268790 801322 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.sange.fi/archive/ < 1338268836 227562 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... I don't know about catseye < 1338268907 689174 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :'fcourse, list participants probably have their own archives of the discussions. < 1338269009 758561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the wiki links to the sange.fi archives < 1338269762 345536 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338270665 300234 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-120-219.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1338270740 738946 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the only trouble with the cookie law is that any law which the public actually likes can't be a good thing. < 1338270787 28748 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the cookie law < 1338270836 673709 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's a law, it's not a joke or a fad < 1338270862 797063 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I thought it was appropriate timing although I suspect the law /will/ end up being a fad < 1338271027 778567 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they have to warn users about cookies in britain? < 1338271038 797887 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and let them opt-out? < 1338271060 481214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338271072 770733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://www.ja.net/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/ for examples < 1338271082 941344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you need to go on a news page on the latter to see it < 1338271084 893407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also < 1338271087 585190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :htt://bt.com/ < 1338271092 784566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bt.com/ < 1338271120 438091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow click change settings that's a lot of cookie settings < 1338271152 179191 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i suppose i'm not opposed to the idea < 1338271193 448095 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that android apps report which actions they will be permitted to take < 1338271629 909227 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how those permissions are so coarse-grained as to be basically useless. < 1338271649 502040 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is the only level of "do anything with the SD card" "do everything with the SD card"? < 1338271836 879261 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how windows shifts responsibility onto a non-existant system administrator when something goes wrong. < 1338271922 139824 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never actually checks your priviliges before saying that < 1338272015 872404 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-117-217.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338272047 698718 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the permission is "write to external storage" i think reading is automatically permitted < 1338272061 812169 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the file system still has standard permission sets < 1338273159 937341 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338273320 486482 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338274072 157198 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338274650 414134 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338274696 225458 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338274714 637041 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1338274714 831120 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338274853 71535 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338275404 468729 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338275439 707407 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338275463 606700 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338275464 482633 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338275464 676915 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338275464 871084 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338275527 661872 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1338275559 907726 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1338275728 42917 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1338275786 355049 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338275946 231795 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1338276183 220296 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338276457 402361 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338276825 149829 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338276918 874332 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338278040 409314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did we have anyone from University of Helsinki? < 1338278055 256490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm at your Exactum now. < 1338278103 239689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I guess my actual point is already a bit moot. < 1338278362 172106 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338278372 720304 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338278665 87536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(Hell), the worst time complexity. < 1338278773 524877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a guy here talking about a new kind of statistics. < 1338278794 447542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a "summary"-ish thing of his new book, http://www.amazon.com/Optimal-Estimation-Parameters-Jorma-Rissanen/dp/1107004748 < 1338280510 293797 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338280539 79169 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-145.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338280549 221979 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-11.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1338280615 678388 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fizzle: So, what is it about < 1338280619 667043 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, does it involve getting loads of grunts to look through tables of data for behaviour that loosely resembles the real world and then telling everyone what a genius you are? < 1338280990 289807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: "fizzle" < 1338280993 942695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This ain't the 90s. < 1338281014 574522 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338281015 996287 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :foshizzle < 1338281347 83249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: The Amazon page has a description. < 1338281363 879197 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this man is the most arrogant person alive, I think. < 1338281403 568837 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does have a description < 1338281408 584734 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't feel enlightened after reading it < 1338281409 629251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optimal Estimation of Parameters is a ridiculously profound book title. < 1338281413 504002 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do, besides estimate things well < 1338281419 988695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to get more all-encompassing than that. < 1338281424 574574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optimal Method of Doing THings < 1338281425 571361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Things < 1338281443 634581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: He says everyone else is pretty much totally wrong about everything. < 1338281456 521306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Both frequentists and Bayesians. < 1338281466 584062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I like this guy. < 1338281477 696739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That praise does seem rather high. < 1338281534 676184 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are there any examples of his work I can read without paying for them? < 1338281578 589893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So what's his version? < 1338281757 851089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It is not terribly easy to understand, honestly. But he says it's a generalization of ML where the "model selection" is part of it, but also a generalization of the MDL principle. < 1338281848 792389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What's ML here? < 1338281866 878878 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338281874 478582 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm... < 1338281880 578603 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what just happened < 1338281904 258373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :death < 1338281906 110494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I'm sure his "famous" papers are somewhere; he's sort of counted as the inventor of arithmetic coding, and the MDL principle, both well-known things. < 1338281916 647305 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maximum-likelihood estimation. < 1338281926 712595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arithmetic coding? So he's not a quack, then. < 1338281978 523512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: http://www.mdl-research.org/jorma.rissanen/ -- there's a list of selected papers there. < 1338282008 843521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mdl-research.org/jorma.rissanen/rissanen.jpg < 1338282016 453572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a guy who knows a lot about optimal estimation of parameters < 1338282054 674881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is very certain about this thing. < 1338282096 110862 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has estimated the parameters optimally < 1338282096 378365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how wrong is he? < 1338282098 59937 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338282103 117784 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1338282103 654052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have been too much influenced by this traditional nonsense" -- a verbatim quote about his answer to some comments afterward. < 1338282221 26271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I don't suppose he's "wrong" if you strictly accept his definitions and just look at the mathematical consequences. < 1338282232 938868 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course I haven't read the book. < 1338282247 3389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, free-lunch time. -> < 1338282262 975426 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :To summarize, the traditional dogmatic approach to statistical model building, in which prob- < 1338282263 377845 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :abilities are viewed as inherent properties of `random' data and restricted to them, is resting on < 1338282263 571754 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaky logical foundations. < 1338282362 413353 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is dense < 1338282995 647138 :foocraft_!~ewanas@89.211.156.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338283216 481309 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : But this man is the most arrogant person alive, I think. < 1338283226 246493 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the person to whom I subtly alluded? < 1338283360 82769 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, centipedes walk in a really cool way. < 1338283733 280877 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338284103 123732 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338284129 801578 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1338284356 995191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://assets.cambridge.org/97811070/04740/frontmatter/9781107004740_frontmatter.pdf page 7 (last page) is perhaps a better description, in the sense that it mentions how everyone is wrong. < 1338284652 656086 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1338284687 646882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1338284946 207636 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny because now we're going to have presentations for four papers, and I'd wager a guess there's going to be Bayesian principles involved. (He was especially critical of their "worthless nonsense".) < 1338284964 752646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he likes the frequentists more? < 1338285047 670511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. He just mentioned them less. But he did say their hypothesis testing is pure nonsense, while he does it right using his theory of perfectly perfect perfectstimators. < 1338285084 198402 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are optimal "in every relevant sense" (direct quote from slides). < 1338285121 302293 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are irrelevant senses to be optimal in? < 1338285138 136401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: What combo should I play? < 1338285160 732854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, like "optimal in a practical application" or whatever. < 1338285195 124937 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: crawl, crawl light or 4.1 < 1338285206 840247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stone soup < 1338285210 839031 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :powergamer or playabl < 1338285214 130288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think the light people get offended if you call it not-crawl) < 1338285219 505633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i want to get >xl 15 < 1338285226 105750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have low tolerance for the standard hunger mechanics < 1338285232 502006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. not being able to eat corpses most of the time and the like) < 1338285245 335659 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try troll fighter-something < 1338285248 84274 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :trolls have gourmand < 1338285258 538002 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and really good uc < 1338285258 940436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also not really looking to be a squishy fully-spells mage < 1338285266 358067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(melee w/ buff spells are fine) < 1338285276 710051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: trolls are a bit op aren't they < 1338285280 50766 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1338285280 989876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't play anything sufficiently popular) < 1338285282 982298 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have shit defenses and apts < 1338285289 177642 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can throw rocks though < 1338285293 744840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like ranged < 1338285306 628050 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you'll be hitting things with your claws mostly < 1338285312 39552 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can't get rocks until cyclopses start appearing < 1338285335 664890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my current combo of the moment is ghak, previously ghmo*makhleb) < 1338285341 279214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(before that dsak i think) < 1338285348 107709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ds sucks because hunger) < 1338285349 999027 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghak is good < 1338285353 706091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's oldwon :P < 1338285363 77529 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1338285364 399017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338285367 504982 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, shrug. gh is good, ak is good < 1338285370 183558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is strange because it's pretty good < 1338285372 51222 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ghak must be good < 1338285379 617889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: heavy armour or light armour melee fighter w/ buffs < 1338285393 174112 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1338285396 509350 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends on what books you find, doesn't it < 1338285399 9533 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since ak < 1338285406 512269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338285408 925172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i hate deciding late :( < 1338285412 568005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to wear my heavy armour early < 1338285415 513375 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :assume heavy armour < 1338285424 389456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then switch if i find nice books? ok < 1338285426 249521 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338285433 594237 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :since p(heavy armour) > p(good book) < 1338285442 791434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :science < 1338285460 430637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that valid in the optimal estimation of parameters method < 1338285469 113844 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for example, as an ogre/troll p(heavy armour) < p(good book) ) < 1338285469 983920 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338285482 215148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right trolls have stupid armour < 1338285495 374004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened here < 1338285499 281393 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1338285502 615984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see my game < 1338285530 802606 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a vault < 1338285536 555280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1338285539 495948 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's meant to be a butcher stall < 1338285539 690173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just weird :P < 1338285556 89180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1338285558 287456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very profitable for ghoule < 1338285576 959176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1338285580 49001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i miss area saccing < 1338285603 884303 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 'pray' and 'butcher' should move towards the thing you most recently killed < 1338285609 170753 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :popping it off like a stack as you keep pressing it < 1338285611 238183 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fr) < 1338285614 237854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :light's is better < 1338285616 902641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just sacs every corpse in los < 1338285622 516773 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but does light have area butchering < 1338285623 917711 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh wait no food) < 1338285626 783757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338285629 46134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to butcher :p < 1338285630 781344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you can < 1338285632 108398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just pointless < 1338285634 424340 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about for sublimation of blood < 1338285637 211274 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or simulacrum < 1338285638 791109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1338285640 541915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it then < 1338285642 287917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"such fun" < 1338285645 238400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: oh assuming heavy armour is a pain < 1338285648 412156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cuz i need to raise stats < 1338285655 703152 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only need 18 str for plate < 1338285773 306085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1338285787 526208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338285790 694663 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are not vbery good at this 'running away from things' game mechanic < 1338285799 133036 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : what about for sublimation of blood < 1338285805 706560 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is DF right < 1338285810 721704 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl < 1338285821 659289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1338285823 797241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try again < 1338285826 615938 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip elliott killed by: unoptimal play < 1338285827 241057 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But DF is the only thing that would simulate the sublimation point of blood < 1338285829 764854 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1338285832 355159 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1338285835 299040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: it's because i tabbed it before i realised it was an iguana < 1338285835 917776 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can blood even sublime < 1338285841 527411 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless your blood is a gas < 1338285841 721451 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's magic < 1338285861 716857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1338285862 649065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+2 robe < 1338285871 184788 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what would be funny < 1338285878 376597 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if randomly you'd start in the abyss instead of in the dungeon, like an ak < 1338285884 380503 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :except instead of dying at 0 hp you'd wake up in the dungeon < 1338285889 869257 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'd say 'Whew, what an awful dream!' < 1338285894 381678 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1338285895 653149 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice worm < 1338285896 718427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wormdeath < 1338285899 651936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that worm was op < 1338285901 851903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try that again < 1338285902 52137 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooorms < 1338285915 677774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :constr op < 1338285924 584618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink as first scroll nice < 1338286165 803975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :woow what a good strategy < 1338286190 135177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets try again < 1338286194 360476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with less stupid chokepoint strategy < 1338286219 871949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest in peace me < 1338286237 225380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that crawl is boring < 1338286238 888750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i play fast < 1338286312 784678 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338286313 225432 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338286485 815732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1338286486 909023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :christ < 1338286497 437624 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1338286509 737503 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems weird that everything is killing you < 1338286512 948445 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never have any problems playing crawl < 1338286518 306447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1338286523 920675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't die this easily with ghak usually < 1338286525 770001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what's op < 1338286526 616290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :up < 1338286574 842583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha shit < 1338286651 200777 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is cygwin good for using simple utilities like grep, or are there better alternatives < 1338286661 510001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is fine for grep < 1338286663 596927 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :cygwin works, it also comes in dll format < 1338286679 534078 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I already have cygwin installed and I'm lazy, so... < 1338286681 452279 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ok < 1338286690 441227 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you install cygwin and put it on your path (or just put the bash utilities you want in a folder with the cygwin dll, and put that on your path) you can use them from your windows shell < 1338286698 365184 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can type grep blah blah blah and it just works and I'm on windows 7 < 1338286701 84202 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :feels great < 1338286752 252934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jessicastabbing < 1338286754 89215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jessica's tabbing < 1338286793 898056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice ijyb < 1338286824 276150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1338286826 948326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :purgy is bad news right < 1338286835 848085 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric : Purgy (T) | Spd: 10 | Int: normal (doors) | HD: 5 | HP: 35 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 9, 4, 4 | Fl: regen | Res: magic(13) | Chunks: contam | XP: 134. < 1338286842 298699 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your ac sucks I guess < 1338286845 577896 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to fight him < 1338286846 383796 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so don't < 1338286848 632170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's fine < 1338286855 51966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1338286874 84777 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1338286874 487428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1338286876 592667 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the fuck did he come from < 1338287021 723206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so < 1338287023 518065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try that again < 1338287041 298080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice anaconda skeleton < 1338287046 555150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow lots of zombies < 1338287104 92968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesss < 1338287104 711594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizza < 1338287135 572657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: anyway you probably just play really boringly < 1338287145 752211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i couldn't stand to play hyper-carefully in earlygame so i go by instinct < 1338287152 975737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :earlygame includes up to like lair:3 < 1338287161 321495 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you play carefully in the early game < 1338287163 522064 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only have to play it once < 1338287164 192515 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :tops < 1338287172 955004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's total lies < 1338287177 880578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the earlygame is deadly < 1338287185 83927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the one place there are unavoidable daeths < 1338287186 260848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deaths < 1338287203 693726 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :unavoidable death, noun: a death caused by otab < 1338287276 579204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck worms < 1338287453 107623 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I thought you liked W:A < 1338287598 416018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram:Alpha. < 1338287688 186671 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe you should not tab uniques and instead run from them < 1338287692 253361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`let's try that again' < 1338287696 629008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i opened the door to them < 1338287699 330258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1338287700 877525 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: let's: not found < 1338287702 446693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was no upstairs < 1338287705 228640 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have still walked to- really? < 1338287706 110602 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1338287709 647308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real lesson is: check whether something's an escape hatch before going down it < 1338287719 105128 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338287733 540430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1338287755 449551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1338287758 260678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at this abyss section < 1338287769 253394 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I installing the new version of Racket < 1338287783 69296 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vertical lines? < 1338287786 134116 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :abyss does that sometimes < 1338287792 143082 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it's a vault or a consequence of the algorithm used < 1338287792 337015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1338287794 97573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lava-surround < 1338287848 94871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1338287885 277156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo worms should just always be fleeing < 1338287887 315824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :much easier to deal with < 1338288064 879840 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Good integration with the Racket implementation: primitive values have corresponding Swindle classes, and struct types can also be used as type specializers." < 1338288066 553662 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1338288081 977412 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Swindle more.... integrated with Racket than CLOS is with CL? < 1338288097 240352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clos is integrated fully into cl < 1338288114 422283 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not integrated as in part ofm, but integrated as in fewer rough edges due to being tacked on later on < 1338288125 661650 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cl=common lisp? < 1338288134 943212 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338288141 507673 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you are worse at early game than kacy < 1338288160 891161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dare you < 1338288168 321463 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some advantage in using common lisp instead of scheme < 1338288170 440677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: do you have any knowledge of clos at all < 1338288180 467026 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some < 1338288200 803996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1338288203 287314 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I may have misremembered the rough bits... < 1338288330 280369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :structs aren't CLOS classes iirc, but that wasn't ... such a big issue? < 1338288341 966221 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, some functions aren't methods < 1338288744 573766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: anyway soon i will be above xl 15 < 1338288747 134508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i promise you < 1338289205 116904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: should i try again < 1338289234 202415 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1338289244 46354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it occurs < 1338289245 941859 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :try the secret technique known as running from things when they enter los < 1338289252 579839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try that it's difficult < 1338289260 645609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :read-iding scrolls in the abyss < 1338289278 768619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : The hellwing gestures at you. < 1338289278 962681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You feel strangely unstable. < 1338289279 291921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1338289282 117494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot < 1338289284 671800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :still have tele post-escape < 1338289302 558734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : c - a cursed ring of hunger (left claw) < 1338289307 121126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^Qyes < 1338289389 585584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nO < 1338289392 106928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not just die to rat < 1338289619 21551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, mind reading again. < 1338289625 752894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a MEG. < 1338289662 76399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These guys won a competition about it, apparently. < 1338289708 377539 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CBCE.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338289819 67378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, it's just about feature selection and not the actual mind-reading. < 1338289835 323701 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CBCE.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338290032 633068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Should I play again? GhAK is hard. :( < 1338290039 760274 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1338290040 997226 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's it hard < 1338290096 646668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1338290097 320502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it < 1338290100 377213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you'll win < 1338290103 256257 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :try ghfi, ghmo or ghgl < 1338290108 497786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :done a bunch of ghmo < 1338290110 802796 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'll play it locally and get to lair < 1338290110 996900 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1338290118 32264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :locally? :( < 1338290120 874902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i can't funspectate < 1338290125 792940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(please don't fucking win until i do though) < 1338290128 915242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's my pet oldwon) < 1338290144 677820 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a game started on cao and webtiles < 1338290145 81687 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1338290150 676739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: cdo man < 1338290157 623871 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338290158 264210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or another game version on cao :p < 1338290158 834784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1338290167 741249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :squarelos on cao if you can handle it!!!! < 1338290176 157301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(n.b. monqy conduct required) < 1338290211 84363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or make hyperpatashu like cool kids :P < 1338290263 564491 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1338290265 863481 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :three scrolls of enchant armour on D:1 so far < 1338290271 322774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1338290272 384519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna see < 1338290283 723051 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I uh < 1338290284 965139 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :need something worth enchanting < 1338290292 774437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try suiciding so you can play online :P < 1338290299 143525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway you're clearly just wizmode cheating < 1338290307 282415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also how can I ~learn~!!!) < 1338290348 649230 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338290348 981227 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1338290375 211846 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'll make a hyperpatashu < 1338290375 481039 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :onesec < 1338290416 409010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw you'll be breaking the laws of hypers < 1338290416 812634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1338290418 965918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"who cares" < 1338290431 987522 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the law < 1338290433 281849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: call it patashoe < 1338290439 843193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hyper accounts are when people play the first random character they get < 1338290445 105823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :patashoe <- this is genius < 1338290452 956594 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1338290455 452816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pataphysics :P < 1338290461 288331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many good naming opportunities!!! < 1338290571 202284 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338290572 274280 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, is this the awful entrance vault < 1338290574 703484 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a jelly and a worm < 1338290583 643637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn on traps & doors < 1338290593 413725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a great entry vault < 1338290594 553508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exclusion time < 1338290702 286104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: protip sac corpses < 1338290708 10945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then die to starvation < 1338290791 548728 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-246-13.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338290828 667360 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-246-13.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338290908 633418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1338290911 767460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you rigged that +4 roll < 1338290955 965486 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338290964 835414 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338291045 989123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338292706 689924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i told you earlygame sucks < 1338292712 33684 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok < 1338292717 107307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not it's awful < 1338292719 444589 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I make a mistake I feel like it's my fault < 1338292723 179092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl is really fun when it's all about getting the runes < 1338292727 889935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just stupi mistakes though ugh < 1338292728 84241 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't have to fight those < 1338292730 963434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stupid < 1338292742 951312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously if crawl just dumped you with a cleared lair at the very start < 1338292747 274247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the loot and stats it entails < 1338292749 22937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be much more fun < 1338292852 53019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, the current presenter has written a book titled "Consciousness and Robot Sentience". < 1338292876 867533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's also from a philosophy department of someplace or another. < 1338292888 650773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And after the talk there's a "robot demo". < 1338292906 127427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's sentient. < 1338292908 984101 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I try to learn Racket at the same time I try to go through SICP, will I become confused? < 1338292918 929800 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, very similar languages with some significant differences, etc... < 1338292978 748617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"very similar" < 1338293100 714320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Consciousness is the presence of phenomenal internal appearance, the "subjective experience" of perception-related neural activity." < 1338293139 261958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consciousness is also not computational, apparently. < 1338293160 257253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the statistics guy < 1338293179 205779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338293195 165878 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, in Worlds, the Sadness and Glee buildings are bigger on the inside < 1338293209 941653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1338293261 298069 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :His robot is not based on any microprocessors or programs. < 1338293275 279457 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what class are you taking < 1338293282 781317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's based on neural networks, but they're not "your neural networks". < 1338293289 436102 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1338293347 484908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called XCR-1, it's the experimental cognitive robot. < 1338293356 759094 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not taking any classes. < 1338293366 696291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's this sort of a day. < 1338293388 191447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The robot has "inner speech". < 1338293442 154749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1338293474 224296 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sort of reminded of Mentifex, except he's not quite as... as all that. < 1338293508 241678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this person actually in your university < 1338293521 400004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not my, but a university. < 1338293545 199417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can experience pain, and has mental imagery corresponding to words. < 1338293567 790148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's this guy: http://www.conscious-robots.com/en/researchers-and-associations/interviews-and-lectures/pentti-haikonen-talks-about-cy.html < 1338293618 867042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the video is gone. But there's something about XCR-1 there. < 1338293629 749134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He also has leaflets just outside the door. < 1338293647 813206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now he has the XCR-1 on the table. < 1338293730 282609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It keeps repeating the word "hurt", I think. < 1338293735 829297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hmm'ing. < 1338293746 248837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It found a small object. < 1338293768 847034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's "search". < 1338293791 306272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also blinking lights of different colors. < 1338293820 179799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's trying to hold a microphone next to it so that we can hear. < 1338293843 901995 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This all is... kinda weird. < 1338293872 528458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's shouting "green" at the robot. < 1338293891 509120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The robot says "bad". < 1338293901 441268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not want green now. < 1338293916 602541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the trouble with conscious robots. < 1338293917 904694 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338293931 575793 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Green, bad. < 1338293974 138401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He said "green" and hit the robot, and the robot associated green with badness. And now it does not like green objects. < 1338294029 435268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a strange event. Some of it like any CS conference, some... not. < 1338294067 802148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should go to the pattern recognition society meeting now, that's pretty much why I had to actually come here today. < 1338294418 114862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: should have id'd O... < 1338294428 808529 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amnesia < 1338294431 891345 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338294432 538388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1338294432 941399 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or curse weapon < 1338294434 300145 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way < 1338294436 72027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1338294499 695889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yakes < 1338294528 917881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: disto spear < 1338294559 71409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: now < 1338294625 782302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: you just passde alir < 1338294734 58651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its righ tthere < 1338294734 327983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1338294738 542865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1338294775 665274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1338294778 220721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip Patashu < 1338294828 11111 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338294878 820005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uugh why isn't Patashu dying < 1338295702 827730 :foocraft_!~ewanas@89.211.156.189 QUIT :Quit: So long, and thanks for all the fish! < 1338295998 637276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You *may* *die* to a *fungot*. < 1338295999 803374 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and if someone says " freaky" for all i/ o commands, an empty () < 1338296535 618934 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust awful_25 ->+>->(-)*8>-->(+)*8>++>(-)*5>(+)*3(+)*3<(-)*5<++<(+)*8<--<(-)*8<-<+(+)*31>(-)*31>>>>>>>([+[+[+[+[+[------[-[-[-[-[(-)*27[+][-][+]]]]]]]]]]]]>)*21 < 1338296538 243988 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_awful_25: 51.9 < 1338296688 356919 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket structs remind me of CL structs :/ < 1338297000 757678 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1338297367 962505 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1338297379 957200 :Gregor!codu@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338298079 705436 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1338298088 624550 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338298894 234521 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl NICK :asiekierka < 1338301334 47153 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi NICK :atehwa < 1338301808 148681 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338302196 329892 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a good question for discussion: Is Minecraft's redstone/redwire system Turing-Complete? < 1338302260 418409 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338302265 891030 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. I got lefftif mwm to work. Can there be better window manager than mwm (not counting the tiling ones) < 1338302288 220907 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make a nand in it, and you can make memory elements in it. the only constraint is how big minecraft maps can get (which is currently limited by floating point representations) < 1338302294 168957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DHeadshot: no < 1338302303 765222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: there is no way to get infinite memory < 1338302310 827865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite initial arrangements do not really ocunt < 1338302315 629260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's similar to a CA really < 1338302325 533018 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't there things you can power with redstone < 1338302328 106917 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that re-arrange the environment? < 1338302396 612295 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible I'm thinking of one of the redstone mods that add a lot more things to do with redstone < 1338302400 145611 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can build a stack with pistons. Really, it's not at all dissimilar to computers. Its theoretically Turing complete, just limited by its "physical" nature. < 1338302405 314491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you are thinking of a mod yeah < 1338302408 28060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: AKA an FSM. < 1338302430 340676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Are you going to win that GhAK? : ( < 1338302434 560856 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1338302451 439334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: What did I do to deserve this?! < 1338302459 824182 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, but that's as disingenuous as saying that a desktop computer is an FSM. It's true, but wildly misleading. < 1338302469 34578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Not really :P < 1338302482 973335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call it a BSM if you want. < 1338302494 335910 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am quite happy to do that. < 1338302502 940065 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: being a bad player who doesn't run from anything and doesn't bother to apply tactics will do that to you :P < 1338302528 702233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1338302531 252686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody even likes ghak! < 1338302537 957688 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1338302540 515960 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get to banish jellies < 1338302546 452028 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not care about food except when I want to heal < 1338302551 496238 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems p. winning to me < 1338302563 471316 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338302592 909939 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they get infinite maps properly sorted, would it be then? < 1338302609 328269 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would still be limited by the number of particles in the universe < 1338302610 233609 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338302614 555236 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Important advice! < 1338302627 756408 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure you get the right date for your exams! < 1338302639 52832 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubly important: If you get it wrong, get it wrong by being early < 1338302656 779188 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the latter last year... < 1338302698 728072 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, Ouch, you missed your exams Taneb? < 1338302706 276329 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a phone call this afternoon < 1338302710 867243 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was late but didn't miss it < 1338303390 974474 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338303429 466992 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I just got an email addressed to "Mr. Taneb" < 1338303464 770480 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About someone implementing Luigi in Python < 1338303612 939986 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's... < 1338303620 378244 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I reply to this? < 1338303646 105439 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Phantom_Hoover: advice please < 1338303651 803384 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1338303652 474913 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That's Mamma Luigi to you, Mario!" < 1338303662 577363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: say it's cool and ask them if they might like to put it on the wiki < 1338303684 913123 :george97!~george4li@41-184-84-250.rv.ipnxtelecoms.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338303694 865645 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good idea < 1338303703 208202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome george97 < 1338303707 689707 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :george97: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338303715 186914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh, might be worth submitting to the file archive too < 1338303721 995061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastebin links on the wiki make me twitchy < 1338303742 327349 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... an email attachment. < 1338303747 183392 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably even twitchier < 1338303779 669948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they'll be the ones putting it on the wiki. < 1338303814 904366 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, also tell them not to make a bf derivative < 1338303869 815081 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, will do < 1338303893 381771 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the name "Carlos Luna Mota" mean anything? < 1338304055 216465 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, he's my cousin! < 1338304190 562348 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tell him not to make a brainfuck derivative then? < 1338304424 939321 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338304467 397395 :george97!~george4li@41-184-84-250.rv.ipnxtelecoms.com PART :#esoteric < 1338304483 904591 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338304762 708579 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: bye < 1338304782 592058 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1338304790 695951 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is from an estranged branch of the family. < 1338305293 415297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338305340 405117 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1338305340 805313 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-215.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1338305340 999587 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338305547 674952 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1338305894 908020 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338306336 688423 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338306411 690771 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gello < 1338306426 276055 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Hello < 1338306805 28795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gello < 1338307448 760535 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, fixed points hurt my brains < 1338307522 650782 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot suppose I have a function f and a value v :: (Eq a) => a. Is there a function to repeatedly iterate f v, f $ f v, etc. until I get a fixed point? < 1338307567 433060 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more generally, to iterate until the result meets a predicate? < 1338307593 364055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not believe you have a value v :: (Eq a) => a < 1338307595 191146 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose there is takeWhile pred . iterate fv < 1338307601 326056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume you mean v :: a, for some a that is Eq? < 1338307604 869939 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1338307608 786701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok I do believe you have such a value, undefined) < 1338307619 945112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I don't believe takeWhile pred would work. < 1338307624 356554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t until < 1338307625 718319 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (a -> Bool) -> (a -> a) -> a -> a < 1338307629 987753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may hlep you < 1338307631 3473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1338307632 858390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1338307644 183348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to code: < 1338307659 909593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed (x:x':xs) | x == x' = x | otherwise = fixed xs < 1338307662 941969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then fixed . iterate f < 1338307670 907021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think there is some simple composition for it < 1338307719 708425 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338307732 492124 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :until is perfect for my usage < 1338307739 720840 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(turns out I don't actually need equality, derp) < 1338307805 979919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1338307808 853026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1338307817 639198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :until is one of those lesser-known prelude functions that everyone always forgets about < 1338307820 437744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i make a point to remember it < 1338307863 184068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately Int -> (a -> a) -> a -> a is still missing. < 1338307869 221435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or (Integral n) => n -> ..., whatever) < 1338307987 207582 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the following pages, i’ll try to explain what these features actually are (i’m just swanking here)" < 1338308005 501494 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In Geiser's manual) < 1338308747 609193 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what would you call that? < 1338308761 798863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like iterate or church or whatever < 1338308766 671111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know iterate is taken) < 1338308788 441199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1338308792 44537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're ten days late for a new featured language! < 1338308793 908460 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard it be called church and cascade < 1338308817 22915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hey < 1338308819 807001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which language should i feature < 1338308836 887743 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is biased, he suggested one, and he wrote one of the nominees < 1338308846 584829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the nominee list? < 1338308852 230694 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Featured_languages/Candidates < 1338308871 67349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant in IRC < 1338308891 499079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too busy opening far too many pages at once in Firefox < 1338308908 965061 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadfish, Eodermdrome, Kipple, Sortle, Unlambda < 1338308954 284665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go Kipple, I guess < 1338308958 861571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but the article quality is a main factor! < 1338308960 440103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been around for a while, and it needs some love < 1338308968 430513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kipple's article is OK, but it's a bit thin on the ground < 1338308985 433250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's not enough intro to make into a blurb < 1338309019 952924 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that narrows it down to deadfish and Sortle < 1338309058 469977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eodermdrome has enough info to turn into a lead in the semantics section < 1338309063 221213 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :rumors, rumors... http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2012/05/face_opera.html < 1338309902 84006 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: #haskell is stupid < 1338309908 534743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: congratulations < 1338309912 60523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took kmc years to decide that < 1338309927 778537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: the best way to get an answer to a haskell question is to ask it on stack overflow and then link it to me < 1338310044 332100 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338310128 591404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: (this is not a joke) < 1338310183 61264 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is better than asking you here? < 1338310207 187457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer will have punctuation and be motivated by the desire to gobble up ever more rep (i stopped caring about rep months ago) < 1338310216 666857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it will probably include more documentation links < 1338310221 257340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly asking on irc is easier for me < 1338310223 645418 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also seriously. I asked them how to compose a two-argument function. The correct answer, as I googled in 3 minutes afterward, is Data.Composition. The incorrect answer was to run it through djinn and pl) < 1338310251 538871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data.composition? < 1338310255 961085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just eta-expand it < 1338310261 386510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use (.:) = (.) . (.) if you really want < 1338310266 67986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't like that operator < 1338310273 717559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fmap . fmap) also works and is less awful < 1338310283 477848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah it's ok to use a point for that and really what you should do < 1338310295 665492 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not using a point here < 1338310307 522555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how can I do X with stupid requirement Y" < 1338310314 82340 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks fine < 1338310318 473098 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my composition is gigantic < 1338310319 157417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Composition sounds suspiciously like a silly third-party library for an ad-hoc number of arguments that will probably be more confusing to read in the end < 1338310323 142503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the point offers a guide < 1338310324 962565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hpaste it < 1338310328 511973 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my code? < 1338310334 241071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1338310334 778406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1338310341 212345 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on a different device < 1338310353 352830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh composition is that ... yeah, I would not advise use of that package < 1338310392 503119 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better than the suggestion #haskell came up with of sticking the boobies operator in my code < 1338310418 219082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f .: g) x y = f (g x y) is the correct way to implement that operator < 1338310418 697422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1338310422 720027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f .: g) x = f . g x < 1338310424 647326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bur < 1338310425 25294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1338310427 333738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that operator is an abomination < 1338310429 864017 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1338310430 216898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one day you will hate it too < 1338310434 371202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why what < 1338310440 343266 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it an abomination? < 1338310461 573724 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\x -> foo . bar . baz (quuz . quuux) . zork x) seems terrible < 1338310488 214347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well because it's a special-case that actually has a more generic underlying pattern (fmap.fmap), (fmap.fmap.fmap) etc. and it's a bad symbol for it and it's just generally yeck especially when it's not clear how many arguments are being used so you have to mentally expand it < 1338310495 537596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: something that big wants defining in a where clause anyway < 1338310510 141286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing x = foo . bar . baz (quuz . quux) . zork x isn't bad at all < 1338310518 888001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your code though : < 1338310520 230540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1338310549 467403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: anyway patch dgamelaunch for me < 1338310553 209765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do something probably impossible < 1338310557 484164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you tell me if something is impossible < 1338310596 949089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: depends on what that thing is < 1338310633 100792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK so you know how you can send mail while spectating a game in dgamelaunch? < 1338310655 523173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338310668 396627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's done using a patch to the games in question ("simplemail" for NetHack) < 1338310670 826614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you know how that's annoying because it blocks off the whole screen while you do it and takes seconds after hitting enter to get you back to the action < 1338310675 4179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the delay and replay < 1338310676 469816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, I know < 1338310688 330828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to patch dgamelaunch so it instead just pops a dialogue on top of the game as it runs down at the bottom < 1338310695 938749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the drawing the dialogue over the game frames is easy enough < 1338310697 32896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possible but difficult < 1338310704 12870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sounds impossible is restoring the game afterwards without replaying a bunch < 1338310709 40429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need to parse the ttyrec < 1338310714 805871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: err, while spectating? < 1338310720 165720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it require a full VT emulation? < 1338310723 452993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it'll be trying to modify the dialogue < 1338310724 980773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it would < 1338310727 981768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it really wants to be modifying the non-dialogue < 1338310729 95718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ugh < 1338310733 442525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe i can steal mosh's < 1338310738 5967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, it'll be a very non-trivial patch then < 1338310742 348431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame < 1338310744 432031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really really annoying < 1338310768 685326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually open another terminal just to send messages < 1338310823 705917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I suppose it'd be simple enough if you just had to use a one-higher terminal than who you're watching < 1338310826 739411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could scribble over that line :) < 1338310835 842955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :) < 1338310860 248547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: another alternative would be to just write the dialogue willy-nilly, then replay from before it was first shown < 1338310866 997908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that'd just result in the super-fast-replay annoyance thing < 1338310872 154908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1338310892 890328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution is to not try and build a generic game launcher thing with mail < 1338310904 314620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ha ha I'm not rewriting dgamelaunch for DCSS and convincing CAO/CDO to switch < 1338311372 472112 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dog just quacked < 1338312388 91931 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The phantom's gonna teach me how to break the submarine! < 1338312449 239977 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well first you open the door. < 1338312822 627007 :nvt!nvt@kapsi.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1338312880 444834 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338312934 17168 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338313097 871342 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338313129 857088 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Snap, Yesod, or Happstack? < 1338313143 314841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :django on rails < 1338313157 504095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk snap is all snap. but yesod has the yesody stuff too < 1338313160 967013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and happstack is quite happstack < 1338313163 30357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really pick whichever < 1338313168 843642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesod has a lot of template haskell generally < 1338313175 850519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happstack is very "toolkitty"/"library"-style < 1338313184 46952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap has pluggable sub-application things < 1338313192 300361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1338313193 101342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoiler < 1338313195 156770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :web development is pain < 1338313197 958565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do it > 1338313549 257563 JOIN :#esoteric > 1338313553 385190 JOIN :#esoteric > 1338313553 901505 JOIN :#esoteric > 1338313588 762232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338313588 847015 :glogbot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric > 1338313592 887880 JOIN :#esoteric > 1338313593 404332 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338313638 142963 :nvt!nvt@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338313653 967495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome nvt < 1338313656 904632 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvt: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338313838 346435 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll work on family-tree < 1338313943 391003 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338313996 943080 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1338314070 902633 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.24 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338314095 221235 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338314317 309615 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338314341 293417 :augur_!~augur@wireless-206-196-167-14.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1338314371 166973 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.24 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1338314693 258488 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1338314946 897524 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338314948 898958 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1338315084 223970 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338315087 128726 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338315177 698194 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1338315227 119148 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338315272 63472 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shell reboot < 1338315278 402226 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338315335 847283 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rebootting my computer trought irc is kinda awesome < 1338315345 57595 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338315463 783125 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow, my presence in Worlds is actually breaking stuff < 1338315470 973834 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338315527 402759 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338315556 235441 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti__ < 1338315566 645220 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti < 1338315573 207405 :nortti__!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi NICK :nortti_ < 1338315954 103680 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338316426 835289 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1338316629 109759 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338316794 98489 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338317482 293075 :fofo!~fofo@62.240.62.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338318383 68192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome fofo < 1338318386 199478 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fofo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1338318398 40667 :fofo!~fofo@62.240.62.183 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338318406 415884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338318589 960149 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338318728 445279 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-117-217.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338319351 979086 :augur_!~augur@wireless-206-196-167-14.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338319356 120960 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.224.67 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1338319414 106469 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust awful_25_huge -->+++>-->(-)*8>-->(+)*8>++>(-)*5>(+)*3(+)*3<(-)*5<++<(+)*8<--<(-)*8<-<+(+)*30>(-)*31>>>>>>>([+[+[+[+[+[------[-[-[-[-[(-)*30[+][-][+]]]]]]]]]]]]+>)*21 < 1338319417 103255 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_awful_25_huge: 56.6 < 1338319498 287305 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can experience pain -- this is difficult to say of course < 1338319545 116316 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjout perkele [>>>>>>>>>[-.]<<<<<<<<<+++>+] < 1338319548 760591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat: wow, that's quite a god score < 1338319554 825405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help bfjoust < 1338319555 249149 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for bfjoust! < 1338319558 167514 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if magritte was to give a speech bubble on a robot which said "i am in pain" < 1338319559 59062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, hmm < 1338319564 87868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*good score < 1338319570 781957 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338319572 212745 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele [>>>>>>>>>[-.]<<<<<<<<<+++>+] < 1338319574 895701 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti__perkele: 13.6 < 1338319579 464692 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been working on the program for a while now. < 1338319585 398967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :third on the leaderboard < 1338319620 393827 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's higher than I expected when I started it. Hence the name "awful" < 1338319622 163808 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338319635 240719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I note it's vulnerable to triplocking < 1338319647 586310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all those ]s in a row < 1338319649 348625 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338319659 400553 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that we can only ever be sure of our own sense of pain, and that we guess at all other times < 1338319664 706211 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1338319668 371084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1338319677 720933 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust perkele [>>>>>>>>>[-]<<<<<<<<<+++>+] < 1338319677 832785 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Although, those help it beat the programs using small spikes. < 1338319680 432668 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti__perkele: 14.2 < 1338319697 78770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what method does it use to beat slowpoke? just outrushing? < 1338319704 917564 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Triplocking? < 1338319710 45527 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, I'll check. < 1338319710 697180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my defense programs do better against it than my attack programs < 1338319728 66017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: waiting until a cell becomes 0 then putting it up to some higher value as fast as you can < 1338319745 218517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it defeats programs containing ]]] in their clear loop, together with some other formations (but ]]] is the most common) < 1338319823 906885 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't say from the trace, but if slowpoke checks for zeroed cells than my program leaves a trail of ones; which could cause it to think I'm stuck when I'm not. < 1338319863 609496 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I'm awful at BF Joust < 1338319916 326525 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know this topic has come and gone, but i think about robots etc, when life directs itself towards the question of what is alive, how can i create life, etc etc.. i think it is a depressed life who thinks like that < 1338319917 715160 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338319928 926432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat: IIRC it checks for ones too < 1338319968 704937 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and implies a dissatisfaction with the good things like campfires, flints of stone, and getting about the jungle in leather hides < 1338319971 52497 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, then. < 1338320075 6059 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like my program is just faster, since it uses a narrowing attack of order 35. < 1338320090 142547 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It clears the defensive spikes easily. < 1338320197 508285 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, I'm still sure that I can't truly beat something in first place... < 1338320220 229245 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in conclusion, i think that the relation between "a life of wandering about the jungle as a hunter with a spear" and "a life of studying bosons and galaxies" is that it doesn't matter which < 1338320225 267003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when they were released, both waterfall3 and slowpoke had 100% win rates < 1338320253 29771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338320266 185639 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's impressive. Were they parameter optimized? < 1338320423 938238 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awful_25 is just a parameter optimized version of awful_24 with a couple of new features. < 1338320460 353381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1338320619 15760 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo !tell nortti foo < 1338320619 372213 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!tell nortti foo < 1338320631 605127 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo @tell nortti foo < 1338320631 879775 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nortti foo < 1338320631 952355 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1338320642 834243 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.24 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338320644 931500 :augur_!~augur@206.196.186.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338320667 150286 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. that could result in some interesting botloops < 1338320706 339864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo > text "#this is a proof of concept botloop" < 1338320706 668485 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "#this is a proof of concept botloop" < 1338320707 340765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : #this is a proof of concept botloop < 1338320715 97672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no, leading space in lambdabot's reply < 1338320723 410394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo test < 1338320723 651384 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo test < 1338320723 924969 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :test test < 1338320733 916892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/that/ one's exploitable :) < 1338320739 160706 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :ais523 > 1338320739 183735 NAMES :#esoteric < 1338320752 648558 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo fungot < 1338320752 814281 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo fungot < 1338320753 162348 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: does it help that this isn't true too?" < 1338320753 234448 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo fungot #echo fungot < 1338320753 901644 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot #echo fungot < 1338320754 575960 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oonbotti: and is able to take it off, and finally called f.) i have a feeling that a c compiler for symbolics lisp machines. < 1338320789 38399 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^ul ((#echo ^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ < 1338320789 680891 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((#echo ^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ < 1338320789 950930 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^ul ((#echo ^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ < 1338320790 456374 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((#echo ^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ < 1338320790 733177 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^ul ((#echo ^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ < 1338320791 250276 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((#echo ^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ < 1338320791 520854 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^ul ((#echo ^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ < 1338320792 26655 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((#echo ^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ < 1338320792 260697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric :+m > 1338320792 283860 NAMES :#esoteric < 1338320797 374565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric :-m > 1338320797 397625 NAMES :#esoteric < 1338320800 918956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric -o :ais523 > 1338320800 941811 NAMES :#esoteric < 1338320804 898394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :best way to stop a botloop ever :) < 1338320808 363156 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo `echo #echo ^echo #echo foo < 1338320808 584685 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo #echo ^echo #echo foo < 1338320810 727466 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#echo ^echo #echo foo < 1338320838 35204 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^echo < 1338320838 309911 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo ^echo < 1338320838 778544 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^echo < 1338320847 399247 :augur_!~augur@206.196.186.24 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338320857 378342 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second echo didn't actually get called in my schtick < 1338320860 365446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, but I ruined it. < 1338320862 280207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1338320862 548026 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti)! < 1338320878 817135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a good response < 1338320890 186005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to stop the botloop before you managed to stop it, though :) < 1338320904 630347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly, I started typing out the /mode command as soon as I sent the botloop, and pressed return as soon as I saw it had worked) < 1338320913 868615 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, I blame this phone keyboard. < 1338320957 53678 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo `echo #echo @echo foo < 1338320957 347472 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo #echo @echo foo < 1338320959 721930 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#echo @echo foo < 1338320982 729057 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo fungot < 1338320982 897577 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo fungot < 1338320983 393059 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: erm. i did really well on my scheme so i guess the movie was written by you < 1338320990 775021 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1338321019 32568 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338321028 65634 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1338321054 146910 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338321140 473418 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo `cat foo < 1338321140 722974 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat foo < 1338321143 493682 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#echo `cat foo < 1338321264 469944 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo ^bf ,[.,]!fungot < 1338321264 579315 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^bf ,[.,]!fungot < 1338321265 70807 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: isn't the language spec calls them, environments). *sigh* :) that's what contracts check. check. < 1338321315 603682 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^bf ,[.,]!fungot < 1338321315 729788 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!fungot < 1338321316 307937 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: the esco guys are funny :) ah, i count those days you don't know lisp much... output a 0 then quit. < 1338321331 675057 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and.. i can stop.. < 1338321415 385932 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo `cat foo < 1338321415 715220 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat foo < 1338321417 800235 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#echo `cat foo < 1338321457 490318 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. now I see why it doesn't work and I think it is a good thing < 1338321503 872977 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :invisible antibotloop prefix "thanks hackego"? < 1338321626 176501 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. I had to look at oonbotti's debug log to seeit < 1338321632 511285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antilope-bot prefix. < 1338321636 154614 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*see it < 1338321707 295656 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any idea how to remove a program from bfjoust? < 1338321726 16686 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right better programs and drown it out < 1338321732 481173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1338321747 945509 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct better programs and drown it out < 1338321758 489775 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how I got on the high scores once < 1338321792 12515 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :analyse its behavioure/understand how it works and "snipe" it < 1338321826 437650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, what does it do if you submit a suicidal program with the same nick and name? < 1338321830 124029 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338321844 515803 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust awful_25_tiny < < 1338321847 398542 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_awful_25_tiny: 0.0 < 1338321896 284727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd hope it would keep the best-scoring program from each nick/name < 1338321903 181909 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "who knows" < 1338321915 655977 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust fail [-] < 1338321919 384687 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti__fail: 16.3 < 1338321923 172012 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1338321961 100932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it does; you're free to downgrade yourself. < 1338321965 16194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: [-] can tie with some rush programs < 1338321973 324273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on half the polarities < 1338322035 295379 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust awful_25_tiny [[+]+.] < 1338322039 502488 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_awful_25_tiny: 17.1 < 1338322164 576476 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust awful_25_tiny [[+]+] < 1338322168 585722 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_awful_25_tiny: 16.3 < 1338322171 592259 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust awful_25_tiny [[+]+.] < 1338322175 607828 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_awful_25_tiny: 16.3 < 1338322241 264293 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to wait for a better program to flush that out... < 1338322457 460755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, the Python/SciPy/matplotlib mess to update the 'egostats' page is the slowest thing in the slow. < 1338322722 1467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Page updated, anyway. < 1338322817 192205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the clustering this time grouped the awful_X's (discounting tiny) together. < 1338322833 791488 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CBCE.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338322859 153492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And triplock2/triplock3, waterfall2/waterfall3 pairs, the first being the pair with smallest distance. < 1338322935 948387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I only now realized that deewiant_allegro is a train too. < 1338323013 715963 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Train? < 1338323054 748052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allegro is the name of the Helsinki / Saint Petersburg train. < 1338323096 107160 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. I though it was music related. < 1338323099 299310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And deewiant_pendolino is presumably named after the fast-ish Pendolino trains.) < 1338323120 380298 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did I, and it still might be, but since the other one is unambiguously a train. < 1338323161 996318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus Deewiant had a "sm3" earlier. < 1338323171 464318 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guy likes his trains < 1338323177 161535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, and that maglev thing, which also might count. < 1338323190 590546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And monorail.) < 1338323242 283996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And, uh, apparently "train" and "train2", according to grep.) < 1338323986 739566 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll play DF for a bit < 1338324148 946782 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to play DF :( < 1338324158 996828 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can watch me play DF :) < 1338324163 659028 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just not sure I'll be able to handle all the new things. < 1338324169 43519 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK what server, port < 1338324179 532285 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/server/host/ < 1338324225 986950 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1338324241 56176 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... < 1338324244 787743 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know < 1338324258 676050 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's on noway.ratry.ru < 1338324261 204570 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait I thought you'd termcast it. < 1338324293 310533 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so? < 1338324296 204095 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it telnet or? < 1338324302 852844 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so? < 1338324305 872229 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the port < 1338324321 500644 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://noway.ratry.ru/ < 1338324327 17241 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb is this really it < 1338324334 862257 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annoyingly, yes < 1338324336 690599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ratry is the machine on which termcast is hosted, indeed < 1338324345 530252 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.24 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1338324347 528611 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What port? < 1338324351 271223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which you connect to to send to termcast (you connect to termcast itself to receive) < 1338324353 99096 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're a man who knows his stuff. < 1338324357 969166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ratry < 1338324358 226607 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I send on 31337 < 1338324365 973834 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff such as what your middle name is. < 1338324377 144738 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey ais523 what's your middle name. < 1338324390 608308 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1338324398 584790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes you think my initials correspond in any way to my name? I'm an INTERCAL programmer < 1338324399 967927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ratry < 1338324417 505388 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-05-08.txt:05:13:41: script -f >( cat ~/.ratry_login - | nc noway.ratry.ru 31337 > /dev/null ) < 1338324433 462732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ratry_login is "hello username password" < 1338324443 733775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the quotes, and (IIRC) with a newline at the end < 1338324446 267143 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I know your name is Alex Smith and I is a fairly common initial in the UK. < 1338324514 205886 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alex "Insidiouspseudonym" Smith < 1338324524 800117 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alex INTERCAL Smith. < 1338324534 245927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: haha, that pinged me < 1338324544 136870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not because I have a ping on "Alex Smith", but because I have a ping on "INTERCAL" < 1338324546 340725 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE TRUTH REVEALED < 1338324552 592370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I /should/ put a ping on my realname… < 1338324699 584433 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My other nick uses my middle initials < 1338324717 354840 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Phantom__Hoover's initials actually spell "PHANTOMHOOVER". < 1338324731 398007 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He doesn't speak to his parent < 1338324731 979220 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1338324859 142767 :david_werecat!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1338325553 756685 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net NICK :Ngevd < 1338325635 381807 :nortti_!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1338326209 180811 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in a Ngevd-y mood < 1338326222 988335 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL the London Underground has its own species of mosquito: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_mosquito < 1338326261 402678 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1338326262 888960 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-68-182.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1338326355 240069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1338326528 433142 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1338327546 994826 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1338328134 235700 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1338328864 594315 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1338329493 231255 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O SICP has compiler writing? < 1338329576 851506 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1338329599 902624 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the end of the book you write an interpreter for a register machine, a compiler from scheme to that register machine, and a runtime system including garbage collection < 1338329614 633104 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik most college courses which use SICP do not get to this part < 1338329703 641398 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should do SICP < 1338329712 43409 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I keep from getting bored at the early parts? < 1338329803 875829 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skip them? < 1338329846 786539 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1338329872 213907 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1338330091 202280 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skim until you get something you don't already know? < 1338330105 645351 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-153-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, something you find moderately interesting. < 1338330729 178403 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1338331296 404247 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1338332940 182345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1338333002 305808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: ian < 1338333012 212354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughs maniackally
< 1338333074 159045 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already tried. < 1338333105 34477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1338333182 165228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that _is_ what the late wp page had, anyhow. < 1338333350 564072 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1338333513 485407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION found an old version with it
< 1338333948 490092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cackles a bit more after finding the source of that information
< 1338334306 326072 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338334391 98782 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1338334391 170899 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1338334580 206971 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au NICK :Patashu < 1338335280 633466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1338335314 436742 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CBCE.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection