< 1337558515 388062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't get the pattern < 1337558559 872968 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :length (...x...x'...xs) == length xs - 1 < 1337558564 558604 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, length xs + 1 < 1337558575 514179 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a bit of a strange pattern. < 1337558611 92961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :length [x] is not x < 1337558645 144851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless x is 1 < 1337558645 725476 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1337558758 283916 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really [] is the wrong thing to use here anyway. < 1337558761 337090 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So never mind. :-) < 1337558806 993841 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337558900 850861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is (Free (Writer x)) like (Writer [x]) ? < 1337559377 208361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If in Haskell you have a random bit interface, then the class to generate random values of a type could be: class GenRandom x where { genRandom :: Free ((->) Bool) x; }; And now you can od this: instance (GenRandom x, GenRandom y) => GenRandom (x, y) where { genRandom = liftPair (genRandom, genRandom); }; < 1337559558 989932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance GenRandom Bool where { genRandom = Free Pure; }; instance GenRandom () where { genRandom = Pure (); }; < 1337559607 898532 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337559966 281427 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337559997 834571 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-99-182.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337560330 685111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ha ha ha < 1337560424 48897 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337560502 322911 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats so funny < 1337560553 354934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing the spel you cast every 3 turns is funy < 1337560563 530993 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1337560574 549076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is if i want it to be!!! < 1337560590 21915 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im plan to remove all sources of flight/lev in monqys-crawl < 1337560598 765035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that, science < 1337560603 853896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why < 1337560639 647753 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because all reasons for it existing are awful and should be undone < 1337560662 262040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the reasons < 1337560690 719851 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well boosting swiftness was already removed in vanilla so that's not one of them < 1337560725 426090 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular levitation is awful because of the whole being flight but you have to wait for it to time out before you can interact with items thing < 1337560776 252491 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it has "interesting tactical uses" in few cases but normally if you're in an area with deep water or lava you maintain it, and if you don't have it, you don't go there < 1337560839 332473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah im fine with items being interactable all the time < 1337560847 286923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "merge 'em" < 1337560892 154688 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what to do with water/lava since i don't quite want to do the full mcrawl with them but they're awful as-is too < 1337560966 557343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337561117 554865 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337561721 928168 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337561842 321932 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337561842 377660 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 QUIT :Changing host < 1337561842 377833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337562458 511924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337562659 550859 :Guest80090!~elliott@95.149.229.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337562667 890468 :Guest80090!~elliott@95.149.229.194 NICK :elliott < 1337562669 614722 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.194 QUIT :Changing host < 1337562669 633108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337563238 460920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1337563244 961353 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhhelo < 1337563285 644051 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337563302 161540 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just finished this week’s electronics homework. < 1337563313 491755 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which week < 1337563361 397367 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this < 1337563395 32028 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many weeks containing today ! < 1337563415 663846 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whichever week it is in Massachusetts. < 1337563427 5641 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not helpful < 1337563447 419469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what week is it in california :( < 1337563490 885099 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many weeks containing today ! < 1337563495 544097 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which week do you mean < 1337563500 436768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one < 1337563502 761470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlep < 1337563520 428037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a week starting today, a week ending today, a week with today as the second day, < 1337563537 218482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no week with today as the eighth day because weeks do not have eight days < 1337563584 728757 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The deadline is in 2½ hours AFAIU. < 1337563592 362581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe some weeks do! < 1337563600 518695 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my weeks don't < 1337563618 565967 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Weeks don’t have eight days? Which planet are you on? < 1337563630 202454 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plauto < 1337563657 981711 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: you doing the MIT course? < 1337563666 585103 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yeah < 1337563679 843750 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i considered it < 1337563681 948115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the only planet ever founded by the ancient roman plato < 1337563704 791880 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It has been great. I’ve wanted to learn electronics since i was a kid. < 1337563710 131443 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: who was the ancient roman plato < 1337563737 171621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337563745 257348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i learned some electronics by reading the ARRL handbook and various websites. i find it is better to learn by doing. < 1337563771 818837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337563857 467741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the ancient roman plato was the founder of the planet plauto < 1337563901 602359 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks for the circularity. the real question is whether the ancient roman plato was a philosopher like plato was < 1337563911 855949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's plato < 1337563914 943940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the ancient roman? < 1337563940 137460 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i was referring to the greek philosopher, student of socrates < 1337563952 928075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop making people up < 1337563974 639491 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, who is going to inhabit your made-up planet if i don't? < 1337563999 163456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what is quintopia on about < 1337564078 459732 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what is elliott off about < 1337564121 575008 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :off about? < 1337564125 920386 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's dead on < 1337564130 217665 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the ancient roman plato < 1337564164 32880 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very dead and very on < 1337564196 691971 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is elliott "ancient roman" also? < 1337564243 126401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: oh no your client puts a space after the < < 1337564248 596145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please fix, please fix, please fix < 1337564255 149930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hurts me more than anything < 1337564312 473981 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not going to fix it < 1337564325 851677 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually kind of like it?? < 1337564334 284671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564335 606590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy < 1337564336 315062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1337564339 493751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do this to me < 1337564340 373107 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564341 564295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix it < 1337564343 616967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1337564343 928057 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gojing to do it < 1337564344 377928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it\ < 1337564346 848459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564347 446098 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564348 477191 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564348 569750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't! < 1337564349 509799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1337564350 275135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1337564350 884865 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can < 1337564352 309339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix it < 1337564354 368994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix it now < 1337564356 48457 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :il never stop < 1337564359 883201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:39:10 < elliott> stop < 1337564360 226326 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:39:12 < elliott> fix it < 1337564360 244704 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:39:14 < elliott> fix it now < 1337564366 545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what client < 1337564369 906775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use < 1337564371 433561 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd bold the spaces but < 1337564374 395156 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant bold spaces < 1337564380 556185 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi < 1337564380 747995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me monqy < 1337564384 341536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT : < 1337564386 43237 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just VERSION me < 1337564391 11832 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a jerk !!! < 1337564406 948048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337564411 933010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1337564412 910147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :version you < 1337564413 345639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1337564415 233440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my internet < 1337564415 969864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :died < 1337564417 926459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1337564419 925363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1337564421 928843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :connection dropped < 1337564426 891351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok < 1337564427 826935 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337564457 460177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/set show_nickmode_empty off < 1337564457 875267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1337564458 642679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it < 1337564459 453854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me < 1337564478 30122 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t do it. < 1337564486 233325 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;m not going to do it < 1337564487 859291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just try it monqy < 1337564489 147302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1337564491 824542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pal < 1337564492 560637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it < 1337564493 272584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :friend < 1337564500 518235 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m not your buddy, pal! < 1337564502 66568 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your problem with the spaces < 1337564506 228430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1337564511 205335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're asymmetric wrt the > < 1337564511 710381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two < 1337564522 376360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < looks horribly disconnected from the nick itself, esp. as <> aren't really the greatest enclosers in the first place < 1337564525 684268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three < 1337564526 5507 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They’re symmetric wrt. the @, + < 1337564526 942556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hideous < 1337564529 411761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :four < 1337564531 887359 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes what ion said < 1337564535 487099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means that you break everyone else's awk scripts < 1337564541 229740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nobody's @ and + on freenode!!! < 1337564541 893993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also < 1337564544 956559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to align things like that < 1337564545 597351 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone else’s awk scripts suck. < 1337564546 66973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1337564546 111979 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :their awk scrips can go die < 1337564547 597477 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes they are < 1337564549 253939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be using right-aligned nicks < 1337564553 601164 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see @ and + all the time < 1337564554 438639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like xchat does < 1337564557 728705 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf crawl-dev < 1337564564 768442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't want that : don't put a space after the s but aligning the @s and non-@s < 1337564716 322530 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's consistent with @ and + etc < 1337564718 916833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres no justifiable reason to "align" < 1337564721 241893 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what matters to me < 1337564724 65442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when there's no alignment of the messages itself < 1337564725 543169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's inconsistent < 1337564726 999139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're terrible < 1337564728 97924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn it off now < 1337564733 172032 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!!! < 1337564735 271730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337564745 321255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you have good opinions right < 1337564751 641028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "< nick> blah" is an abomination right < 1337564816 364022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: stop < 1337564825 234305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :every message you receive with that setting is a personal affront against me < 1337564844 570029 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:46:56 < elliott> monqy: stop < 1337564848 851551 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as u can see: i have not stoped < 1337565015 630838 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://heh.fi/tmp/mirc.png < 1337565031 606322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337565062 663563 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it also looks better on my client than eliots because the < and > are all dark grey and so is the timestamp < 1337565083 9090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337566110 421838 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1337566113 476436 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :---- < 1337566113 685245 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08:30 h < 1337566116 610620 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08:33 19:08:30 h < 1337566118 982227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08:36 19:08:33 19:08:30 h < 1337566125 793505 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooo < 1337566133 853549 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything looks weird < 1337566142 759907 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ma050833 monqy 19:08:30 h < 1337566147 821810 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will take some "getting used to" < 1337566162 735691 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t succumb to eliot’s whims! < 1337566193 340014 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he finally got me with `addquote < 1337566242 741132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vision of a terrifying world: < 1337566244 174442 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337566248 455501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ what would you ever need petrol for < oklofok> newsflash: it doesn't actually taste that good < 1337566270 937801 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no what if you messed up something importante < 1337566272 159872 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :428) < ais523> the thing about modern semiconductor design is, 0s are more powerful as 1s < 1337566286 337345 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :621) < fizzie> Spacegoat is the network-operations-optimized-for-latency-of-minutes-or-hours-due-to-light-speed-limits variant of scapegoat, to be used when you need to check out some code from the Mars colony. < fizzie> (I'm pretty sure we'll have established a Mars colony by the time scapegoat rolls out.) < 1337566286 671672 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :486) < pikhq> I actually had a Neopets account. I later gained a second digit in my age. < 1337566286 767030 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :147) < fungot> pikhq: it was fragrant with the scent of abomination. hear a speech declaring a holy war, is the man insane? some idiot missionary gets himself killed, some man writes some gibberish about the shape of a dragon, wonse?" < 1337566297 661667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1337566300 256097 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1337566301 275480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "messing fixed" < 1337566316 218890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 428 or 390 < 1337566349 996425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 428 < 1337566353 190606 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* the thing about modern semiconductor design is, 0s are more powerful as 1s < 1337566358 80056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 sorry get out of the ay bug im writing an important message < 1337566358 212330 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337566362 205411 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im actually starting to be bothered by the lack of spaces after s with {}s "it'll burn in a different way" < 1337566407 499094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: imo just set them to background colour < 1337566407 838045 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"< nick>"s are the devil. < 1337566410 419991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs to see the <>s < 1337566410 594035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll just use nospaces until i get used to it < 1337566423 914668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you hate coloured nicks too < 1337566424 259459 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they're almost the background colour < 1337566428 526602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like where the nicks are coloured based on their text < 1337566430 243596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that upsets me < 1337566436 521416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont mind if other people use it < 1337566437 381700 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Are you calling me an IRC racist. :-( < 1337566439 786164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it upsets me < 1337566476 933182 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't be racist, I use so much Unicode! < 1337566495 939465 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of it even non-ASCII Unicode. < 1337566503 627879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is any of it big endian < 1337566553 267681 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My IRC client doesn't support that. :-( < 1337566583 213737 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Really, something in the IRC->me translation is messing up non-BMP Unicode characters.) < 1337566652 792834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't like that then change it < 1337566723 252404 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Are you racist too? < 1337566755 215650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try not to be, but since I use language it makes me a little bit racist anyways < 1337566776 149280 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1337566776 522336 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1337566779 560174 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style discworld < 1337566779 979461 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: discworld (a subset of Terry Pratchett's Discworld books) < 1337566795 160307 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < sourbot_ :'( < 1337566796 192410 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ' ah?' said nanny. " it's you, son. you're too skinny. i've seen these little stones around, too. < 1337566846 794478 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1337566847 434307 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1337566849 558046 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1337566850 570392 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's a good question for the plt mailing list. there the only ones that that could be a fnord to run the < 1337566974 414359 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1337566975 379548 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: this is all related to sigsegv?) if you didn't operate on text representations and particular character sets? < 1337566978 580366 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1337566979 724963 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so i was wondering why all my applications had become slow on old computers that use dimms? my taskbar just moved to our nation's grand capital, and the < 1337566998 539686 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my taskbar just moved to our nation's grand capital, and the < 1337567062 91100 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You would enjoy #haskell currently. < 1337567065 547269 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:21 < lambdabot> Einskell says: Make everything as monad as possible, but not monadder. < 1337567069 54547 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:23 < JoeyA> Monad monad monad monad monad monad. < 1337567071 992574 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And such. < 1337567149 926019 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1337567173 237904 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet some of these IOCCC entries would be more comprehensible after a run through a C compiler and decompiler < 1337567196 232441 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet this would be a lot more useful than the standard source-level prettifiers < 1337567203 414106 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which decompilers suck the least? < 1337567213 596968 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard source-level prettifier probably wouldn't be *that* bad. < 1337567235 782101 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: indent(1) makes a total hash of most of them < 1337567246 92019 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guidelines basically say that if indent makes your code look ok, don't bother submitting < 1337567268 46591 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of something smarter than indent(1). < 1337567276 350915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you seen Gregor's? < 1337567278 929809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, try astyle, perhaps < 1337567291 360385 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should look at LLVM output from clang < 1337567291 705358 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. renaming variables, expanding #defines < 1337567296 187563 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337567306 585460 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, that usually doesn't help too much either < 1337567313 898352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indent just chokes on a lot of perfectly ok code IME < 1337567336 77646 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really want stuff like dead code elimination and reordering big chains of , and ?: operators into saner sequential/conditional control flow < 1337567343 573331 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I think a pass through a proper compiler might help < 1337567348 943358 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IME is Finnish for SUCK. < 1337567361 55539 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1337567374 723249 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps just looking at the disassembled output would be enough. < 1337567393 175460 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i'm looking at now (2001/herrmann2) in particular has a *ton* of dead code < 1337567409 406910 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more specifically, side-effect-free expressions to the left of , < 1337567416 515429 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337567426 28974 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it also depends on whether you just want to understand how the program works, or also how it's obfuscated < 1337567449 238825 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i saw gregor's entry < 1337567451 610040 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff < 1337567456 853431 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't dig into it yet < 1337567505 428187 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how in JavaScript (1,foo) can be a different value from (foo). < 1337567509 857125 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1337567524 573635 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I don't *really* like it. < 1337567533 82625 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1337567535 154752 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf++ < 1337567558 508839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so cool I saw Gregor's entry BEFORE IT WAS SUBMITTED. < 1337567573 453436 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://perfectionkills.com/global-eval-what-are-the-options/ < 1337567713 465377 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, this explains a JS annoyance of mine, actually. < 1337567726 597438 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't say var foo = console.log. < 1337567745 692132 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Previously I was just using var foo = function(x) { console.log(x); } < 1337567757 160087 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess you can var foo = console.log.bind(console). < 1337567759 991746 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Or something. < 1337567795 354783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's correct < 1337567799 222925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bind one, that is < 1337567805 192954 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1337567834 766886 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not so much "this explains" as "I just thought about what could actually be causing it and came to this conclusion". < 1337567907 226025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO question: "Can Haskell pretend to be a database, and if so, how?" < 1337567949 135144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by that? < 1337567971 409009 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln -s /usr/bin/ghc /usr/bin/mysql < 1337567989 707221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hmm, what's that "two planes at once" message < 1337567999 795764 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phase shift < 1337568004 94617 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's free evasion < 1337568005 814274 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot i had it < 1337568009 883518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Can Haskell pretend to be a database" This question does not seem to even make sense????? < 1337568022 985335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: indeed < 1337568058 610718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, Famicompo Mini 8 is now finished and available for download. < 1337568073 728000 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free evasion a = a | evasion (free evasion a) < 1337568090 483663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you mean Free < 1337568103 664133 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My language is case insensitive. < 1337568159 707482 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know Noël Coward was born in the 19th century? < 1337568179 438704 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1337568179 581151 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :synx says: webdev is like doing one of those stupid little kids toys where you fit the circle block into the circle hole < 1337568192 26149 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1337568226 249932 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : fare evasion? < 1337568281 154182 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know that different kinds of citrus tree can be easily grafted onto each other? < 1337568289 855041 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem with fare evasion is that it's unfare. < 1337568296 904940 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have a single tree which grows oranges on some branches, lemons on others, limes on others < 1337568316 63976 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes! Well, I knew it about some specific cases, at least. < 1337568318 993797 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is industrially important too < 1337568353 949734 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause you can graft a branch which grows the kind of fruit you want onto a tree that's of a variety that's better at being a tree < 1337568388 348714 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't this how most oranges are grown, or something? < 1337568399 8967 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard as much < 1337568418 336140 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seedless oranges, I suppose. < 1337568429 873489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the GenRandom I have written for the random generators or is there a better way? < 1337568500 231799 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish humans could be grafted. < 1337568513 399031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onto trees or onto humans? < 1337568514 529772 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least they can be grifted < 1337568518 955373 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337568518 993682 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-112.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1337568518 993811 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1337568559 531333 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ontohu mans. < 1337568563 951618 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337568988 789683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Famicompo mini vol.8 has some multi-track files, unlike the others. < 1337569018 180819 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337569382 243921 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, Linux now uses the term "x32". < 1337569394 588172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1337569397 32785 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly it uses it for something different from "32-bit x86". < 1337569399 484614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1337569400 858715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's X32 < 1337569405 176498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally different < 1337569413 606906 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1337569424 158703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :capital x < 1337569425 495857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not abominable < 1337569427 949636 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember the bit about my language being case-insensitive? < 1337569478 357127 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reMEMBeR thE bIT aBoUt my LanGuAgE bEINg casE-iNseNSitIVe? < 1337569495 162950 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow reMEmbEr THE BIT abOut mY LAngUAGe being caSE-InSeNsItive? < 1337569495 666344 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2r3e4M5E6m7b8E9r2 3T4H5E6 7B8I9T2 3a4b5O6u7t8 9m2Y3 4L5A6n7g8U9A2G3e4 5b6e7i8n9g2 3c4a5S6E7-8I9n2S3e4N5s6I7t8i9v2e3? < 1337569693 510277 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X32_ABI < 1337569785 593247 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah x32 ABI is in Linux 3.4 < 1337569857 646742 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :32-bit pointers in native x86-64 long mode < 1337569919 241968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i'm arguing this badly :( < 1337569933 89308 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: arguing what :( < 1337569977 150311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk is not on, a few days ago I was asking about fmap lower . lower . duplicate = duplicate . lower and said it doesn't work for (Density []) but actually [] is not even a comonad, it lacks extract and doesn't follow the law duplicate . duplicate = fmap duplicate . duplicate < 1337570033 623352 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That depends on your definition of duplicate! < 1337570070 733819 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/category-extras/0.53.5/doc/html/Control-Comonad-Density.html , the argument to Density just needs to be a functor. < 1337570076 692941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the fmap lower . lower . duplicate = duplicate . lower does seem to work with actually comonads and seems to be the law for homomorphism < 1337570129 158003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Actually the argument to Density can be anything; it does not even have to be a functor. But Density is also a comonad transformer, and Codensity is also a monad transformer even though the argument to Codensity can also be anything. < 1337570230 374095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why did you argue for the bad thing :( < 1337570239 468967 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1337570244 639677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple at a time < 1337570270 178771 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the extend to which i argued for it is saying one at a time would be ridiculous < 1337570276 271334 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just imagine how ridiculous it would be < 1337570277 649225 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :least common multiple at a time < 1337570286 123219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it wouldn't! < 1337570291 139518 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would < 1337570297 5703 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf v5 < 1337570304 822832 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be the most ridiculousest < 1337570340 797116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How do you mean, depends on your definition of duplicate? What are you saying depends on that? Only certain definitions are correct to follow the comonad laws (which are just dual to the monad laws) < 1337570401 493412 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: According to you, none of them follow the comonad laws. :-) < 1337570414 345863 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you didn't give a definition of duplicate, so how can you say that it doesn't follow the law? < 1337570440 298934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the proper way to handle it is not having upstairs. i'm gone for a while so have fun w/ yr argument "ha ha" < 1337570512 728105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: None of what follow the comonad laws? duplicate . duplicate = fmap duplicate . duplicate is mentioned in the documentation < 1337570545 105500 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said "[] is not even a comonad, it lacks extract and doesn't follow the law duplicate . duplicate = fmap duplicate . duplicate" < 1337570548 42124 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's duplicate? < 1337570559 335677 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :duplicate is the dual to join < 1337570582 293948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad have return and join, comonad have extract dual to return and duplicate dual to join < 1337570582 865900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: shachaf is asking what definition of duplicate you are using for []. < 1337570599 90229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using the one that comes with it. < 1337570617 228931 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just said [] isn't a comonad. < 1337570622 169814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since there is no extract for [] it is not a comonad anyways so it doesn't count < 1337570623 317153 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does duplicate come from? < 1337570623 530923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what one < 1337570632 113829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1337570636 730287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: duplicate _is_ defined for [] in the comonad package < 1337570639 936697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extend is a different class < 1337570645 652456 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is? < 1337570647 234761 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1337570651 579601 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's silly. < 1337570764 776776 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The law duplicate . duplicate = fmap duplicate . duplicate is mentioned for Comonad, not Extend, but ComonadTrans class method lower is with something having Extend class, not Comonad. < 1337570805 934325 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cowmonad < 1337571142 548359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is fmap lower . lower . duplicate = duplicate . lower supposed to be the law for homomorphism? < 1337571328 298885 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337574091 151684 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337575346 587679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have five days to figure out part of the strategy for the situation in Dungeons&Dragons game, and I have some ideas. I may use Correspond spell to call the chancellor, but he will probably be able to recognize me and I do not know what things to say. I try to lead him into a trap. In case he comes and then tries to hide, I have already considered that and know what to do about that. < 1337575494 437025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may need one or two scrolls of Locate Creature (I already have Locate Object). < 1337577929 58657 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elliott • it was still hideous even then!" evil < 1337577939 500667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: waht < 1337578050 164879 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _thought_ you said that you have used monospaced font on irc and it was still hideous < 1337578059 330661 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess that would've been too silly to be true < 1337578126 22704 :ellisonch!~celliso2@76.199.1.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337578132 875181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < foo> that was hideous < 1337578222 513862 :ellisonch!~celliso2@76.199.1.32 QUIT :Client Quit < 1337579066 529243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then don't use < foo> if you dislike it < 1337579123 445170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is other people using it < 1337579168 958814 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is < foo>? < 1337579205 249862 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :An esoteric programming language, of course. < 1337579248 328934 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, < foo> as in how some client shows nicks on IRC? < 1337579250 495244 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume? < 1337579252 185341 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337579254 39172 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that space is annoying? < 1337579284 564580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337579299 626011 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/%3C%20foo%3E < 1337579366 39946 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which client? < 1337579373 228349 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, too bad that link doesn't work < 1337579387 543634 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Foo exists < 1337579424 998773 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Foo%20exists < 1337579548 119572 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1337579772 509668 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use < nick> but i try to delete the space when copypasta into channels < 1337579848 30060 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gross < 1337579855 697823 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either keep the space or don't use < nick>!!! < 1337579866 640603 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My IRC client shows < nick>. < 1337579874 278656 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually delete it when I copy into a channel. < 1337579875 887026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is it irssi < 1337579878 123643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can fix that < 1337579880 186254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask monqy! < 1337579883 321316 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1337579886 971419 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i fix that < 1337579895 596222 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask elliott < 1337579902 627247 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: help < 1337579910 641334 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's < 1337579911 501836 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08:23 show_nickmode_empty = OFF < 1337579916 544736 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be it < 1337579930 782733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I copy to a channel I will only quote the part which is necessary to quote < 1337579942 432984 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone say something! < 1337579946 484956 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I just did. < 1337579957 952723 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1337579959 498078 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1337579961 117160 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1337579963 8603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1337579963 357990 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if someone becomes an op? < 1337579968 555254 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then ther'es a @ < 1337579973 114718 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will their lines stop a-lining? < 1337579975 705828 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are worms we're the best and we've come to win the war < 1337579976 429405 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1337579980 750537 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no mor a-lining < 1337579981 957376 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: That's the devil. :-( < 1337579991 228591 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1337579995 231397 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :text doesnt really align anyway < 1337580002 365973 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you dont make it align < 1337580002 384000 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather have a space before the < < 1337580004 430709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: turn off the @ display then < 1337580006 503368 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :To keep it consistent. < 1337580008 558937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "stupid", say experts < 1337580012 863398 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, clearly you should join #shachaf and see < 1337580018 287188 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's the devil too. :-( < 1337580032 556417 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I expect you just joined that channel so that I won't be an op in it? < 1337580040 1111 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you know! < 1337580055 518116 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I opped you before you left... < 1337580092 997615 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRB < 1337580122 585186 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337580142 266909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many different alignments of IRC messages are there? < 1337580147 354771 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1337580154 948280 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I left #shachaf < 1337580163 969107 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: So did I! < 1337580182 152212 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337580185 764235 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I joined after you joined and left before you left. < 1337580203 699497 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like an shachaf Sgeo #shachaf sandwich! < 1337580335 356544 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't wait to eat food today
< 1337580336 387167 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1337580341 299050 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1337580381 405905 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :∧.∧ < 1337580397 22547 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :∨.∨ < 1337580427 71765 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://twitpic.com/show/large/9nild1 -- guess God really does use lisp < 1337580439 632580 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337580441 158921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⊂.⊂.⊂.⊂ombo breaker < 1337580443 861634 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1337580446 406102 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: :-( < 1337580930 175888 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elliott • it was < foo> that was hideous" ohh < 1337580986 415586 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :_why_ is the space there in some clients? < 1337581003 436131 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause if you're an op it shows as <@foo> < 1337581005 159073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: because @ goes there < 1337581006 360048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're an op < 1337581007 226735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's stupid < 1337581008 277425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuuuupid < 1337581010 771367 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: To make it align with "<+foo>" and "<@foo>", I assume. < 1337581016 874869 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, shachaf: beaten < 1337581022 102179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1337581024 540393 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :'( < 1337581025 230359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creys < 1337581025 917905 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRR < 1337581029 804121 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8D < 1337581032 303178 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, come to think of it, i have realized that multiple times. < 1337581032 828038 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: beaten < 1337581053 212745 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the status slot, where the status symbol goes, and empty status slot is a space < 1337581059 911890 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"more viewpoints" < 1337581063 96977 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thanks monqy" < 1337581064 129639 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy++ < 1337581079 820317 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm setting show_nickmode_empty back to ON now" < 1337581083 795509 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: it's for @ and + < 1337581258 822967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no you're terrible < 1337581296 792084 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Don't worry "i didn't really do it" < 1337581302 532418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1337581304 432228 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was lying. Which I guess makes me terrible. :-( < 1337581309 791045 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1337581310 741355 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it was in quotation marks. < 1337581327 222478 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow quotation marks < 1337581327 596272 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2q3u4o5t6a7t8i9o2n3 4m5a6r7k8s < 1337581332 985464 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a depressing rainbow. < 1337581340 386440 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ()ing with portals. Now you're¿ think() < 1337581346 518972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it have to align? < 1337581354 78935 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you're both < 1337581393 368491 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both what? < 1337581397 589403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ov < 1337581405 134706 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only @ displays < 1337581446 221126 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott doesn't like < nick> because it symbolizes the non-existence of @ < 1337581483 931015 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry bout that < 1337581527 138181 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i read that wrong < 1337581625 718894 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki has some info on @ < 1337581634 147682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ^rainbow rainbow is slightly depressing partially because it doesn't go up to eleven, let alone 15; it only goes up to 9. < 1337581643 85496 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The fact that there is no single word in English for the symbol has prompted some writers to use the French arobase[4] or Spanish arroba — or to coin new words such as apserand and ampersat - but none of these has achieved wide currency. < 1337581658 915695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone could fix it to use the same color ordering as < 1337581660 370893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow2 < 1337581660 858571 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :6â–ˆ0â–ˆ15â–ˆ14â–ˆ1â–ˆ2â–ˆ12â–ˆ11â–ˆ10â–ˆ3â–ˆ9â–ˆ8â–ˆ7â–ˆ5â–ˆ4â–ˆ13â–ˆ6â–ˆ0â–ˆ15â–ˆ14â–ˆ1â–ˆ2â–ˆ12â–ˆ11â–ˆ10â–ˆ3â–ˆ9â–ˆ8â–ˆ7â–ˆ5â–ˆ4â–ˆ13â–ˆ6â–ˆ0â–ˆ15â–ˆ14â–ˆ1â–ˆ2â–ˆ12â–ˆ11â–ˆ10â–ˆ3â–ˆ9â–ˆ8â–ˆ7â–ˆ5â–ˆ4â–ˆ13â–ˆ6â–ˆ0â–ˆ15â–ˆ14â–ˆ1â–ˆ2â–ˆ12â–ˆ11â–ˆ10â–ˆ3â–ˆ9â–ˆ8â–ˆ ...too much output! < 1337581693 58120 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aspergand < 1337581712 755280 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does = secretly mean ⊆? < 1337581793 482879 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope one day @ has it's own wikipedia page < 1337581824 159180 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematicians overload way too much. < 1337581834 884861 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if = means ⊆, does (+) mean liftM2 (+)? < 1337581862 93426 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In Set.) < 1337581950 264288 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I too hope one day @ has it's own wikipedia page < 1337581987 201579 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPOILERS: IT ALREADY DOES < 1337581988 665230 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[@]] < 1337581996 534694 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi @ < 1337581998 425258 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hat < 1337582041 793474 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@-hat: Ì‚@ < 1337582041 961918 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ì‚@. < 1337582054 608628 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thambdabot < 1337582073 523399 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show rainbo2 < 1337582074 296673 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Ì‚ < 1337582074 448323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ bf do ft id pl rc v wn < 1337582074 655240 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show rainbow2 < 1337582075 3161 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :((0)(15)(14)(1)(2)(12)(11)(10)(3)(9)(8)(7)(5)(4)(13)(6))(~^:()SSa~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a~*~a*~(â–ˆ)S:^):^ < 1337582269 388490 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think that it's a good thing when you don't have to have much information to use a piece of a language < 1337582413 811585 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the case of a function or procedure i think it's nice when a summary is good enough < 1337582481 808999 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably not actually relevant < 1337582563 138807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be the funniest if "/nick @foo" would give you ops on every channel you're on. (And double-ops where you already had some.) < 1337582590 207687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: needs a backspace before the @ < 1337582592 57051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to overwrite the space < 1337582630 493847 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would also be funny if "/nick @foo" was a backdoor password into most login screens < 1337582683 532573 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i should stop re-peddling jokes < 1337582827 727306 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for IRC makes more sense < 1337582849 103355 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idiopathic autoreferent < 1337582865 907786 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^message I got when I tried to /nick to @Sgeo < 1337583091 448093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Erroneous Nickname", says the server. < 1337583139 567068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boringly. < 1337583318 217097 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION did it on a different server
< 1337583319 783293 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1337583358 813718 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sergeant Eo < 1337583394 589531 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1337583500 397103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :v.v < 1337583541 650345 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v∨ < 1337583670 456918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :v < 1337584061 657070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: Hard Work! < 1337586978 703021 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337586993 101593 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1337587010 194947 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337588488 985045 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337588619 223209 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-237-144.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337589215 357984 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2AeSsOcJv4 This... Should not work. < 1337589269 189155 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Daft Punk, "Around the World", orchestral. Arrangement by Walt Ribeiro) < 1337589488 680429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going to be one of those shitty basically-just-a-midi-version-run-through-a-vst things isn't it < 1337589493 672020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1337589517 219424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok its not as bad as i was expecting < 1337589550 666816 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I was expecting utter ear-rape. < 1337589556 940272 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why I clicked I don't know. < 1337589572 900459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337589583 95643 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly it killed elliott. < 1337590691 425736 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal doesn't play BZFlag, does he? < 1337590700 921523 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was someone, with the name... AnSomething < 1337590711 846512 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot what the something was, but I was thinking Vorpal < 1337590736 29223 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And someone else, who apparently has played BZFlag for a very long time, claimed that that person used cheats. (Claimed this after that person was offline) < 1337590781 616159 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster? < 1337590793 422290 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^quote not markov < 1337590798 991808 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote not markov < 1337590802 434108 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong symbol < 1337590807 729595 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :626) Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1337590901 766354 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1337590922 135044 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, right, AnMaster is Vorpal, but I don't remember if the name I saw in BZFlag was AnMaster or something else < 1337590943 711468 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if it was AnMaster, it could be a coincidence < 1337590983 344979 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There can't be that many people playing BZFlag though. < 1337590989 174174 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Or caring enough to cheat for that matter. < 1337591639 117578 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1337592962 867934 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I don't play BZFlag < 1337592969 761786 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, ok < 1337592974 63942 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it is a game, that is all < 1337592979 640200 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even remember what type of game < 1337592997 656326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337592999 23305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1337593023 540811 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened? < 1337593025 951945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at what i get when loading http://thepiratebay.se/: < 1337593027 17987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZHU2bg < 1337593201 416904 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, government's told all the ISP's to block Pirate Bay < 1337593207 980274 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try switching DNS < 1337593255 523713 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17894176 < 1337593443 351815 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or https://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/ < 1337593476 278451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you choose "yes" or "no"? < 1337593564 926153 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-7.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337593576 561061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337593721 971912 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-168.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337596702 965419 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-136-136.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337596725 911111 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-149-7.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337597201 843891 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how both yes and no are ambiguous answers to that question < 1337597232 433013 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So's "elephant" < 1337597634 73349 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Elephant" isn't ambiguous, just irrelephant. < 1337598846 734673 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337598874 252299 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337598964 537107 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oliphuant < 1337599005 828793 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was going to say not a typo, but the source I took that name from has a persistent typo < 1337599015 706091 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nomic.net/deadgames/fourplay/pieces/pieces.10s.html < 1337599020 468021 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Search for oliphuant < 1337599026 898447 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then click the link to Oliphuant < 1337599431 110278 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337599456 533842 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337600442 968806 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337600463 160624 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337600830 411955 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :el < 1337600837 236128 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither elliott nor PH are here < 1337600850 952325 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does happen occasionalyl < 1337600854 132850 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am here < 1337600856 491571 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Tube Trap changed around, so now water rises at Sudden Death < 1337600856 618803 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337600866 257139 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover Tube Trap changed around, so now water rises at Sudden Death < 1337600866 384004 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337600885 805840 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, now I want to play GIRP < 1337600942 616936 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GIRP? < 1337601008 558101 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.foddy.net/GIRP.html < 1337604485 514374 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www1.reocities.com/SiliconValley/drive/2069/SimCity/SC3KNewsTicker.html < 1337605355 748168 :Gregor!codu@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337606669 5559 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337606695 699658 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1337606695 874952 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1337606722 725278 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, you have excessive underscores < 1337606760 665470 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Phantom_Hoover's evil twin. < 1337606766 766297 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah! < 1337606791 301360 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You... don't seem that evil < 1337606811 679790 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in a way, isn't that the most evil thing of all? < 1337606822 783456 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1337606825 195077 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1337606920 822894 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, you'd have messages if you had one underscore < 1337606931 69861 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages Phantom_Hoover < 1337606931 217455 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1337606933 443148 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1337606934 519337 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth a shot < 1337606935 555336 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1337606935 684532 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1337606962 487220 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i dont know what tube trap is < 1337606989 120111 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme for Worms: Armageddon < 1337606996 598195 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played it with either you or elliott, I forgot which < 1337607269 39304 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337607428 918840 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome david_werecat < 1337607432 997127 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337608806 916065 :Gregor!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1337608942 645750 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1337609532 783335 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's oerjan :( < 1337609589 473810 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we found a topological space which is countable and not first-countable, and the 5 (out of 143) spaces in counterexamples in topology which are countable but not first-countable share almost none of its properties < 1337609603 698780 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we found it by accident, it was supposed to be a really nice space :() < 1337609834 579666 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337610035 191658 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1337610629 338407 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337611106 320960 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have always classified worms and lemmings as pixel terraforming games, but not by that name < 1337611124 669539 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres very few such games notable in that style i think < 1337611619 895158 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Quit: Hug~♪ < 1337611966 279971 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337612118 762 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337612799 309671 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1337612810 390051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337613564 224631 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337614188 216038 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A60F.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337615295 263312 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Palindromes are rasemordnilap!" < 1337615941 138393 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that's a palindrome < 1337616013 262289 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337616032 230947 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1337616041 316872 :Zetro!~Zetro@zetro.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337616050 216404 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet NOÖNE has acknowledged my BRILLIANT joke in the /topic :( < 1337616163 584675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not /that/ brilliant < 1337616163 655862 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337616194 874186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott ? < 1337616194 984591 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1337616333 651955 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :'( < 1337616448 929627 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what is the brilliant joke? < 1337616487 792428 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... the one in the /topic. < 1337617034 18242 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337617261 279652 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1337617415 51729 :impomatic!~digital_w@227.127.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1337617426 416810 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 NICK :itidus21 < 1337617837 259616 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337617912 520870 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anybody know off the top of their head if I've accidentally made a clone? http://esolangs.org/wiki/Headsecks < 1337617981 753080 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337618071 421625 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: You want the category "Brainfuck derivatives", not "Brainfuck equivalents" < 1337618103 814267 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe both, but the latter is barely-used and probably shouldn't exist (elliott?) < 1337618186 224357 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't deviate from Brainfuck in any meaningful way... < 1337618188 721267 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: You mention ignoring values 8 or 9 modulo 8, but those are respectively 0 and 1 modulo 8... < 1337618200 420903 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 % 8 == 0 < 1337618206 527196 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 % 8 == 0 < 1337618229 509574 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you've misinterpreted. < 1337618280 421222 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that 8 % 8 == 0. Maybe I have misinterpreted the article, though. < 1337618330 486996 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, that's obviously what I meant. I wasn't questioning your ability to do arithmetic < 1337618357 813397 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: Hm hm hm, I misunderstood slightly, you're right. Still, probably everything in the latter should additionally be in the former. < 1337618376 394361 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1337618399 994362 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"each character of the source code is interpreted as its ordinal value modulo 8" < 1337618400 518929 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know what I'm talking about, trust elliott's opinion if he chooses to appear. < 1337618406 8751 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"characters for which a value of 8 or 9 is produced" < 1337618423 370240 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "produced" bit in the latter pretty clearly refers to the former, I'd say. < 1337618478 669956 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I don't see how you get anything other than the range [0,7] when you take positive integers modulo 8. < 1337618487 284383 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely! < 1337618523 803911 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the statement is meaningless and just there to confuse? < 1337618525 337809 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... heh, whoops. I suppose it could be worded a bit better. My apologies for hastiness. < 1337618550 23483 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any characters which are congruent to 8 modulo 8 are also congruent to 0 modulo 8, so they'll map to 0 when you take the remainder. < 1337618754 594854 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337618763 895594 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which... will work as intended, I believe. < 1337618821 187465 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, nothing suspect showed up during preliminary testing, but that could be a result of running them all through the converter. < 1337618834 243387 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord ' ' `mod` 8 < 1337618835 10303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1337618839 575894 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Space is plus. < 1337618875 570957 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't match with what I understand "silently ignored" to mean. < 1337618888 139384 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that the line has been removed. < 1337618943 571230 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What line? < 1337618950 104275 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, never mind. < 1337618972 851787 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Went to change it, saw I wasn't logged in, am login-banned, so switching browsers to change it now. < 1337618979 186300 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The line about silently ignoring, obviously. < 1337619011 993272 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just asked to confirm since that sentence obviously wasn't removed. :-P < 1337619021 853034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: what were you login-banned from? < 1337619072 997489 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reckon I need more coffee. Registered, forgot my password, tried to login five or six times, apparently too quickly. : / < 1337619094 870070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Esolang? < 1337619111 722180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it just put up a CAPTCHA when you did that, but maybe it's misconfigured < 1337619125 803056 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably don't need more coffee really < 1337619287 572663 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, it does display a captcha, but answering it correctly seems to serve no function. < 1337619297 428182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1337619299 219167 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: How do you mean? : ) < 1337619331 983344 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: it may have been your coffee in the first place which made you re-login so much < 1337619350 414556 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you may be right... i forget what programming feels like < 1337619379 865988 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh you weren't talking about programming -- I reckon I need more coffee. < 1337619393 511983 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is certainly a strange place for you to have wound up. ; ) < 1337619407 748289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :andkerosine: I'm not convinced that switching browsers will work, anyway < 1337619421 308383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of auto-ban, unfortunately I can't override; rebooting your router might help if you have a dynamic IP < 1337619439 905075 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One does not simply qwop into #esoteric < 1337619504 527620 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: For what it's worth, switching browsers worked... < 1337619510 623755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, hmm < 1337619522 593240 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double indecision. < 1337619936 917744 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337619961 757270 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1337620375 189418 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337620666 45353 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337621021 947570 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1337621144 127490 :andkerosine!~donnie@adsl-067-034-186-046.sip.mco.bellsouth.net PART :#esoteric < 1337621968 556067 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1337622002 18934 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337622613 258017 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337622779 621918 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1337622790 297451 :oklopol!~nnscript@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337622897 37943 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-198-86.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1337623249 66949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337623312 32932 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1337623405 673169 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is the topic about? < 1337623471 130082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: ask Gregor, it's some kind of joke apparently < 1337623483 503128 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337623506 85619 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wtf is the topic about? < 1337623510 302777 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it's a joke about austria and australia < 1337623723 416540 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a limut how many lines can you send per minute before you get kicked out for flooding on freenode? < 1337623731 293900 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*limit < 1337623800 80460 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You all (except for kmc) suck at jokes. < 1337623958 8751 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I didn't know that austria was named that in english and I couldn't figure out how someone could mistake switzerland could be confused with australia < 1337623979 604553 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-could mistake < 1337624067 882623 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the joke is missing some alps in australia < 1337624079 445337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1337624160 659443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1337624255 982060 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(P.S. I'd just like to point out that I got the joke from the start) < 1337624352 683189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it immediately, but it isn't actually funny < 1337624370 126650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : is there a limut how many lines can you send per minute before you get kicked out for flooding on freenode? <-- yes, also a limit to how fast you send lines before ops get annoyed and kick you < 1337624382 651503 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: exactly < 1337624387 178200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: what's austria called in your native language? < 1337624398 249717 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :itävalta < 1337624409 836060 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1337624425 463220 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eastrule is a crude literal translation < 1337624524 594224 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to confuse austria and switzerland for a while though, got to thinking that the swedish for austria was a lot weirder than it is < 1337624554 5047 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337624557 338736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: hmm, not that far from the German name "Österreich" < 1337624601 528543 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. I expected english to have something similar < 1337624630 866569 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :austria probably means east kingdom in french or latin or whatever language that is < 1337624653 965501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aust" is quite close to "east" < 1337624680 738311 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be a mangled form of österreich < 1337624730 580282 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah: The name "Austria" is a Latinization of Österreich, which was first recorded in the 12th century. < 1337624733 688164 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :This has led to much confusion as German Ost is "east", but Latin auster is "south". < 1337624985 10976 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337625109 705548 :zos!~zos@199-7-156-33.eng.wind.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337625124 902794 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. Rube Goldberg would be proud of my shellscripts < 1337625197 178478 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337625375 75646 :zos!~zos@199-7-156-33.eng.wind.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337625953 451922 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337626269 405226 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :This just in: #esoteric has no sense of humor | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1337626495 767762 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1337626513 304033 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's funny < 1337626830 528332 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone here used TWENEX (also known as TOPS-20)? < 1337627288 633193 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not you should. sdf offers free shell account§ at twenex.org < 1337628038 160691 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1337628061 569931 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*www.twenex.org < 1337628506 129543 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337628526 33930 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-34-136-136.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337628609 86058 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't trust any domain that doesn't resolve without www. ... < 1337628617 173440 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even extra-www.org resolves. < 1337628678 77375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wow, not only does www.org resolve, so does org. < 1337628715 78674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's probably Firefox automatically adding the www < 1337628725 788869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work in dig or w3m < 1337628748 47338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1337628753 5113 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.org is just a normal TLD, there's nothing interesting in the fact that it resolves *shrugs* < 1337628757 790366 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :chrome appears to resolve http://org/ to about:blank < 1337628768 710309 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1337628769 631130 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SLD < 1337628769 998450 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame. < 1337628772 940809 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fails on other TLDs < 1337628794 627959 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, elliott < 1337628796 308870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well, org. resolving /would/ be interesting, but it doesn't :( < 1337628802 400079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1337628802 559701 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1337628805 289934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why people habitually omit the trailing dot on domain names
< 1337628811 622917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://ai./ < 1337628812 571626 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Neener neener. < 1337628818 153095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know < 1337628830 92589 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because that is the convention < 1337628833 551210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but org. is much more major, and therefore having an A record would be more surprising < 1337628846 15791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:33 ais523 asked 3h 30m 21s ago: ? < 1337628847 263302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi < 1337628848 917738 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how do you participate in this conversation? I thought you filtered URLs < 1337628861 75224 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and because domain names are no more ambiguous without the trailing dot < 1337628874 268663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped filtering URLs ages ago < 1337628876 692206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1337628886 75545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just didn't tell people in the hope they'd stop pinging me with them < 1337628907 173151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did tell people < 1337628912 591605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, just didn't tell everyone < 1337628914 893349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably told elliott < 1337628949 929252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you told the channel, at least < 1337629020 902442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(diff | hist) . . N Headsecks‎; 16:24 . . (+2,800)‎ . . ‎Andkerosine (Talk | contribs | block)‎ (Headsecks is born!) < 1337629025 863680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1337629032 240620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he came here and asked if it had been done before < 1337629040 885895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, a brainfuck derivative? < 1337629045 396269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that particular BF derivative < 1337629055 765491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's showing a surprising amount of genre knowledge :) < 1337629063 541595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, there are too many BF derivatives for one to ever repeat < 1337629067 587563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*possible BF < 1337629088 295795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we should put up an editnotice with a box saying "Is your language a brainfuck derivative? Please consider something more creative." < 1337629094 915706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for new pages < 1337629099 834975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1337629105 501268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, it should come up before people even come to the site < 1337629114 497228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should buy ads < 1337629118 510680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because normally they design the language first, /then/ come here to document it < 1337629119 852824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the web, billboards, etc. < 1337629128 238844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"STOP MAKING BRAINFUCK DERIVATIVES" < 1337629184 966400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:44:36: elliott: Did you choose "yes" or "no"? < 1337629186 825492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I chose "no". < 1337629192 714256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAN'T TAME ME < 1337629197 953915 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337629216 324263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Did you know your ISP DNS is probably censored now? :( < 1337629231 195779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNS? I thought it was using CleanFeed < 1337629233 513683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and yes) < 1337629240 299415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:37:05: look at what i get when loading http://thepiratebay.se/: < 1337629240 317645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:37:07: http://ompldr.org/vZHU2bg < 1337629255 493543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, IIRC the court order was "and don't just change the DNS, block it properly", but in more legal language < 1337629277 302388 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-132-134.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337629279 908393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are almost certainly hundreds of ways round it, ofc < 1337629299 408239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Taneb said < 1337629300 518530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:40:01: elliott, government's told all the ISP's to block Pirate Bay < 1337629300 536614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:40:07: Try switching DNS < 1337629311 552764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:44:03: Or https://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/ < 1337629315 175806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :must just be DNS, then, since that link works < 1337629338 200451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it resolve to the same IP, I wonder? < 1337629350 912733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it resolves to the pirate bay < 1337629387 810899 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235173244.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337629411 506686 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-116-4.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337629421 293444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels vindictive at Facebook's share price
< 1337629428 419242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:34:31: andkerosine: You want the category "Brainfuck derivatives", not "Brainfuck equivalents" < 1337629428 601642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:35:03: Or maybe both, but the latter is barely-used and probably shouldn't exist (elliott?) < 1337629433 6234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The latter is for things like Ook!. < 1337629438 474324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice to see the shares are doing badly; it's pretty rare for a company's share price to fall from the IPO < 1337629446 125921 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-116-4.as43234.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1337629461 738395 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually twenex.org resolves but it is a different machine (PDP-10) < 1337629464 940753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: BF equivalents is for things where all the commands map 1:1 to BF's, with nothing added or removed < 1337629474 115701 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-32.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1337629567 382525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, I want to switch to another ISP anyway < 1337629596 142081 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, TalkTalk haven't blocked it yet < 1337629597 971105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:36:26: It doesn't deviate from Brainfuck in any meaningful way... < 1337629603 296951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this is a shocking level of self-awareness < 1337629615 793524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's what I was commenting on < 1337629617 612194 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, they deserved it < 1337629618 750103 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-132-134.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1337629657 601012 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I could buy GOOG now :( < 1337629662 194528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:54:47: ais523: Well, it does display a captcha, but answering it correctly seems to serve no function. < 1337629672 178038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if andkerosine already got the brick ready
< 1337629675 286110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so you could have stocks in the /other/ crappy social network? < 1337629685 148904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, maybe our CAPTCHA is too hard < 1337629696 177515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm wondering if he got it right or wrong < 1337629698 475474 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, because they got hammered due to FB, and are bouncing back up. < 1337629701 982357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:57:01: that sort of auto-ban, unfortunately I can't override; rebooting your router might help if you have a dynamic IP < 1337629708 759001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"serving no function" I bet means "displays another CAPTCHA" < 1337629711 977734 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't buy since it would be insider trading, even though the impulse to buy isn't based on insider information. < 1337629713 37688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is how it handles invalid entries < 1337629721 675115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ConfirmEdit's UI is terrible...) < 1337629727 225448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you work for a social network? < 1337629728 829354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It was a: joke. < 1337629737 645947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he works for Google < 1337629742 853785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1337629753 139415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam I just got: < 1337629776 209829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :From: "Antelmo Alvarado García" (with the quotes) < 1337629777 862548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subject: Re < 1337629778 227757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1337629781 534428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :loan offer,reply back for more info. < 1337629784 842754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's it) < 1337629850 177988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:17:35: (P.S. I'd just like to point out that I got the joke from the start) < 1337629851 831424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also < 1337629856 602315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:19:12: I got it immediately, but it isn't actually funny < 1337629857 335605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this < 1337629876 41179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:22:37: nortti_: hmm, not that far from the German name "Österreich" < 1337629877 325655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ostrich < 1337629921 53855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, www.org is the W3C < 1337629921 788290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1337630006 936520 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1337630140 594097 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuckxt.... why do people keep making brainfuck derivatives < 1337630152 725312 :coppro!~scshunt@ascorbic-acid.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1337630377 840673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: [http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Kryptonx User:KryptonX] < 1337630378 939515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how absurd < 1337630394 307702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everyone has to know wikisyntax < 1337630403 205557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, note that that corresponds to a piped link, not a regular one < 1337630405 760484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do < 1337630406 670676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :== External resources == < 1337630407 35072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* [[Brainfuck++|Brainfuck++ -- A Brainfuck extension]] < 1337630412 569325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1337630415 219761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's an srlink < 1337630419 251681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :srlink? < 1337630429 983856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see {{srlink}} on Wikipedia, I invented it < 1337630442 972615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for self-links that conceptually point to "Wikipedia" rather than "this site" < 1337630451 363639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1337630495 334444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Articles about online communities may well discuss Wikipedia as an example, in a neutral tone, without specifically implying that the article in question is being read on—or is a part of—Wikipedia." < 1337630503 411632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really love Wikipedia's self-reference policy. < 1337630516 847221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes the articles so much more fun to read. < 1337630583 453957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Template%3ASrlink&namespace=0 is quite an interesting list < 1337630602 292034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :List of people associated with the Revolt of the Comuneros (transclusion) ‎ (links) < 1337630610 252427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I smell a misuse... < 1337630620 511651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that article cites answers.com < 1337630627 779346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WP_on_Getty_images_with_watermark.jpg is reasonably confusing < 1337630646 851158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's used as an example on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyfraud < 1337630648 686449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is brilliant < 1337630654 938999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An image of the Main Page of Wikipedia watermarked, claimed as copyrighted, and sold by Getty Images and Agence France-Presse. Wikipedia text is licensed CC-BY-SA 3.0 which requires the same or similar free license on all derivative works." < 1337630655 827279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, that's how I found it < 1337630674 261123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best thing is the deletion notice, there's a raging debate as to whether it's copyvio or not < 1337630710 852385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think it might be original enough to count < 1337630731 111248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see distortions from the screen, the browser chrome, the border of the laptop, the blankness behind it, and several watermarks < 1337630737 176983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also it's rotated < 1337630745 83824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd say it's probably a license violation < 1337630749 846090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, the deletion discussion's been going since January < 1337630750 300882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a copyvio < 1337630772 290120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is that Wikipedia and Getty are copyvioing each other < 1337630778 40553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't surprise me, given that Commons is apparently seriously dysfunctional < 1337630785 571055 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuckxt article: "make the language more powerful ... 100,000 ASCII Character slots" < 1337630796 968551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti_: it's more powerful in that it's sub-TC < 1337630802 839134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's only one level of loops < 1337630815 537037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, can you give your assessment as to the computational class of BrainfuckXT? FSA or LBA, I suspect < 1337630822 905710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wikifying it and want to put it in a computational class category < 1337630834 279736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd mean actually reading the article < 1337630837 939256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I /have/ to? :) < 1337630844 459805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/brainfuckXT < 1337630846 297059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :) < 1337630847 763288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go < 1337630878 134636 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1337630892 391629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "The image is a derivative of a CC-BY-SA image, so by the plain reading of the CC-BY-SA license must be (and is) licensed CC-BY-SA." < 1337630899 46401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, we have infinite memory, but awkward control flow < 1337630900 664241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: these people need to play nomic... < 1337630901 35763 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : nortti_: it's more powerful in that it's sub-TC because there's only one level of loops // the interesting thing is that we don't need infinite levels of loops to simulate a UTM, so the question is, how many depths of loops renders it TC (OH GOD FANCY L) < 1337630907 464394 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Getty violated Wikimedia's terms, Wikimedia cannot then go use the illegally licensed image itself? < 1337630909 446692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's not true; there's also the possibility that it's illegal < 1337630910 29622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHALL but didn't < 1337630926 451814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: indeed < 1337630930 974303 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is something that people keep getting wrong about the GPL, incidentally < 1337630931 970995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: of course not, Getty hold the copyright to it; if they didn't, they wouldn't be able to license it as CC-BY-SA < 1337630935 462688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what they're required to do, of course < 1337630938 30004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's commonly used to spread FUD < 1337630942 481609 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the possibility of fair use, lest we forget. < 1337630950 389170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's copyrighted to them and not released under any free license, so it's illegal for Wikimedia to use it < 1337630953 252714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I believe Getty and Wikimedia both hold the copyright to parts of it < 1337630955 537910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, Getty are also breaking the law < 1337630957 560451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a separate matter < 1337630959 988328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as does whoever wrote the main page blurbs on the day in question < 1337630970 245508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well... < 1337630975 431885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I doubt you could use that under fair use < 1337630978 739697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can hardly argue it's irreplacable < 1337630984 798960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make a similar image in 10 minutes < 1337630987 7208 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not, but it's an angle of argument. < 1337630994 866979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: also, it's probably being misused as fair use < 1337630998 109777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's being used to illustrate copyfraud < 1337631001 792048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than Wikipedia, or... computers < 1337631003 797130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, this is confusing; it has while and an if that can go inside it, but the tape is 100000 elements long, but it also supports arbitrary-length strings < 1337631009 865714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or photography at weird angles < 1337631014 639993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's being used for a sort of meta-use < 1337631021 69469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably not OK fair use < 1337631029 982453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are you sure it supports arbitrary-length strings? < 1337631035 124571 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: also, it's probably being misused as fair use // I actually meant fair use the other way, Getty may be able to argue free use. < 1337631039 901968 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1337631041 1992 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fair use < 1337631050 66394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's no indication anywhere that the strings are bounded in length < 1337631056 250417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: err, hmm < 1337631059 450269 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If it makes you feel better, that image is currently marked for deletion due to potential copy vio. < 1337631062 745360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's interesting, but I don't know if it's true < 1337631065 559969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the "indexing integer" has unlimited range, I think it's TC < 1337631067 398770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: that's what we're discussing < 1337631067 951772 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... would a similar image really be a suitable example of copyfraud? < 1337631083 37288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if it's an indexing integer, presumably the maximum value is 100,000 < 1337631084 539588 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Neither do I, I'm just saying it's a possible argument for Getty :) < 1337631086 266958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1337631096 858956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no, but that doesn't change the fact that Wikipedia are probably misusing it and so it doesn't count as fair use for them in the first place < 1337631103 98452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, there's the tape ("ASCII slots"), which is 100000 characters long < 1337631114 701154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also 30,000 "string slots" which hold arbitrary-length strings < 1337631128 32928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1337631147 29308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no, there's no way to read the value of a string or a character in a string, only to print it out < 1337631150 984375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that language has far too many print operators < 1337631214 45532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe i should tell dtsund he's probably violating the Crawl license < 1337631249 473895 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1337631263 755474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, Randall Munroe CC-by-saed exactly one panel of xkcd, so that Wikipedia could use it to illustrate the article < 1337631266 192788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's importing commits from Stone Soup, but not attributing their authors < 1337631281 931945 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : haha, Randall Munroe CC-by-saed exactly one panel of xkcd, so that Wikipedia could use it to illustrate the article // lolwut? Which? Where? < 1337631285 70333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always make sure to attribute the authors when importing in NetHack 4 < 1337631290 555278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Xkcd_philosophy.png < 1337631293 743509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1337631297 231252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is he even making new commits? < 1337631298 883851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's git < 1337631302 553093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he can just cherry-pick the commit < 1337631307 879244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have git track the authorshi < 1337631308 230624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just", hahahaha < 1337631308 795309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1337631315 999862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh shush, it's not that difficult < 1337631322 584166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it usually doesn't work < 1337631330 380530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, maybe I won't bother telling him, probably nobody cares < 1337631335 433562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, git doesn't track the authorship specially, just appends something to the commit message < 1337631352 66795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I feel bad about it) < 1337631387 845617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few other CC-by-saed xkcd panels, mostly ones that refer to Wikipedia itself < 1337631396 233313 :jobes!~jobes@2001:67c:1220:c1a0:4a5b:39ff:fe1a:6240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337631411 223051 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoaaaah, we have a visitor from the land of ipv6. < 1337631431 733979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome jobes < 1337631434 577996 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jobes: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1337631435 265066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you from... the future? < 1337631443 343116 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-97-149-89.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: goodnight < 1337631452 50638 :jobes!~jobes@2001:67c:1220:c1a0:4a5b:39ff:fe1a:6240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1337631480 379524 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337631509 403708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, simply adding the authors of all the imported commits to a file in a new commit should be sufficient, right? < 1337631523 790942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1337631533 476753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good way to avoid giving legal advice < 1337631555 133176 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337631563 948197 :augur!~augur@206.196.187.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1337631733 68650 :jobes!~jobes@2001:67c:1220:c1a0:4a5b:39ff:fe1a:6240 PART #esoteric :"Odcházím" < 1337632228 543931 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1337632239 204717 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to give illegal advice, but how... < 1337632267 940450 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a laywer and a doctor. I recommend taking your heart out and carving your will into it. < 1337632321 283058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1337632475 538783 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337632502 565677 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a lawyer, I wholeheartedly recommend misrepresenting yourself as a lawyer. < 1337632530 132490 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as your attorney i advise you to rent a very fast car with no top < 1337632876 794078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I think this may be the proper way to define an improper religion: "who use deceptive recruitment practices and use advanced psychological manipulative techniques to reduce their followers to near-zombie state. They entrap followers within the group and destroy their ability to think logically." < 1337632916 31759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It would probably be difficult to do anything if your heart has been removed, isn't it? < 1337632927 595310 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am high on SLEEP DEPRIVATION < 1337632940 254455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1337634134 283983 :david_werecat!~david_wer@24-52-224-101.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337634319 553190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'm terrified of mine and/or ais523's powers now. < 1337635411 606637 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://ompldr.org/vZHU2bg <-- I heard using google translate on the page usually works < 1337635417 883062 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you are still looking for a solution) < 1337635448 777823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds a lot more painful than just using a different DNS server or the alternate domain name... or not using TPB, which has been working fine for me. < 1337635452 646823 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with magnet links, there is no tracker to block < 1337635465 930689 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah okay, the google translate trick is for when the IP is blocked too < 1337635525 258834 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1337636652 983438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone misusing the tag :( < 1337636764 605490 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1337636790 675396 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1337637928 99988 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something very strange has happened ... < 1337637944 971987 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either my sense of smell /markedly/ and inexplicably improved during the night between Saturday and Sunday, < 1337637957 566247 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I'm having some kind of multi-day psychotic event in which I imagine that my sense of smell has markedly improved. < 1337638060 589360 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that I mostly seem to smell something akin to the taste of rust, which I interpret to be blood, lends credence to the latter explanation. < 1337638097 407992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Your fnarfitude is fnarfolving. < 1337638143 387384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: If it helps, blood is quite metallic for normal people, too :P < 1337638166 770705 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is that I don't think I should be smelling blood. < 1337638170 489845 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What with the lack of blood around me. < 1337638182 138220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Blood is INSIDE you, man. < 1337638190 33883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're fnarfing YOURSELF. < 1337638204 358060 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh < 1337638337 782962 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337638383 872533 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :JESUS < 1337638390 561891 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My eye is burning < 1337638394 987485 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just smelled mints < 1337638433 52129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmmm < 1337638436 879377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Mints smell lovely. < 1337638443 179958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also taste lovely. < 1337638451 30784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might clear up that rusty smell! < 1337638495 270600 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1337638662 923634 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337638764 437693 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: add to vocabulary: noöne < 1337638784 692558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no-one" is an awful word < 1337638785 997616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :say nobody < 1337638802 939690 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, say nopony. < 1337638806 411616 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAW HAW HAW *runs* < 1337638814 16988 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :noöne looks even better (as in more awful). < 1337638921 103771 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337639012 545071 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337639191 175287 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337639218 18000 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337639218 379089 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1337639226 562813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1337639229 637590 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1337639258 267086 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1337639260 144412 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-209-2.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1337639267 74623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1337639273 616607 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1337639285 984894 :pikhq_!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337639287 417865 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ÑŽ < 1337639306 53447 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Êž < 1337639712 798048 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337639870 225594 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337640323 602229 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1337640652 725913 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337641637 112132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that if the tax brackets are 10% up to $50.00 and 20% up to $100.00, then if you earn $51.00 then the amount of tax you pay should be $5.20 < 1337641700 295220 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's how tax brackets work < 1337641708 338538 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it would be totally braindead < 1337642165 845216 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1337642837 901487 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1337643003 33546 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1337643093 233514 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337643184 163689 :pikhq!~pikhq@70-56-227-137.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1337643189 333496 :pikhq!~pikhq@168-103-251-95.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1337643233 727008 :kwertii!~kwertii@unaffiliated/kwertii JOIN :#esoteric < 1337643845 800322 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1337643912 690469 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-127-153.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds