00:03:29 -!- david_werecat has joined. 00:03:35 kmc 00:03:36 -!- zzo38 has joined. 00:20:54 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:21:48 -!- augur has joined. 00:35:17 !topic http://wtpl.heroku.com/ 00:38:36 Some people say that sports prediction from horoscope works better than personal prediction from horoscope. What is your opinion on these matters? 00:39:16 0 = 0 00:39:48 ion: True, but too simple. 00:40:14 I am skeptical but can think of two possible reasons which can allow it to work sometimes. 00:40:27 (I am not counting such things as fluke) 00:42:07 Some people say that sports prediction from the variation of latency in pinging google.com works better than personal prediction from that. 00:43:49 The two reasons I am think of: (1) psychological effect (such as superstitious people's belief in such things), and (2) lighting conditions (considering house positions on horoscopes). 00:44:05 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 00:45:29 Now what will you answer to this? (Simply saying it is good or it is bad, is not the good answer; you must critical thinking too) 00:52:27 zzo38: I think the position of the Sun might potentially matter, but the positions of other heavenly bodies are unlikely to be even visible during the game 00:52:56 ais523: True. About lighting conditions, yes it is the Sun which I was refering to. 00:53:37 and directly looking at the time and date would be more direct than going via horoscope 00:54:21 ais523: Sunrise/sunset and so on change for different days and different locations, there are also timezones which are not always same as solar time, and then there is daylight saving time, etc 00:54:31 indeed 00:54:34 I meant true local time 00:54:37 not local time from timezone 00:54:45 OK 00:55:08 timezones are only approximations intended to standardise time across a country, so that people a long way from each other can communicate about time 00:55:14 they came about when railways became popular 00:55:26 before then, long-distance communication and travel wasn't fast enough for the time differences to matter 00:55:30 but everyone needed to agree on train times 00:56:13 OK, I didn't know that but yes it seem good 00:56:25 To predict anything about a game based on the position of the Sun, you’ll certainly need the angle of the playfield relative to the Sun as input as well. 00:59:35 ion: aren't playfields usually flat? 00:59:42 but you'd need to know latitude and longitude and altitude 00:59:50 to calculate the angle 01:05:17 The sun will potentially shine more in the eyes of one team than the other, or perhaps illuminate both equally from the side. 01:05:18 It may help also to know rules of the game. 01:05:31 ion: Yes those are my thoughts too. 01:05:51 So you can’t make predictions just based on “horoscopes” that don’t take stuff like that into account. 01:06:59 A horoscope chart will include the houses, showing you the ascendant and midheaven and so on. You need to know the location and the date/time to calculate house positions. 01:07:14 lol @ linus https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/17#issuecomment-5654674 01:07:32 Of course you need to take things into account; a raw horoscope chart will simply tell you the positions and aspects. 01:11:34 So that is lighting conditions; the Mars and other planets are extremely unlikely to affect such things. But, psychological effect of people believing in superstitious things based on these planets may effect decisions of some superstitious players. 01:16:37 Another thing which can potentially affect lighting conditions is a solar eclipse. There are three objects on the horoscope related to eclipses: the Sun, the Moon, and the North Node. I have heard the story of a king who was frightened to death by a solar eclipse. This is unlikely to happen today, but eclipses can still happen. 01:28:54 -!- xander345 has joined. 01:29:03 i come bearing good news 01:32:28 ah well cya 01:32:33 -!- xander345 has quit (Client Quit). 01:32:54 There is no news. 01:54:27 zzo38 01:54:34 give me all your money, this is a stick-up 01:58:48 -!- Lumpio- has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 02:02:47 -!- Lumpio- has joined. 02:20:07 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:20:11 -!- DH____ has joined. 02:28:37 -!- david_werecat has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 02:30:24 cheater__: No 02:33:36 ow :( ok 02:43:47 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 02:45:05 Is Phantom_Hoover alive? 02:53:20 Sgeo: are you able to see the video on this site? http://www.intuit.ru/department/mathematics/imathanalysis/14/ 02:57:00 cheater__, what video 02:57:30 there should be a video there, do you see one? 02:57:38 Ugh, do I have to unblock flash sitewide for this 02:57:50 no i don't think so 02:57:54 i didn't have to 02:58:16 1 sec 02:59:19 this one works right? http://www.intuit.ru/department/mathematics/angeom/1/ 03:19:40 Yes. 03:19:55 However, it should be noted that I do not speak Russian. 04:11:46 Not even Russians speak Russian. 04:12:00 Russian is actually Newspeak. 04:12:36 Sgeo: thanks 04:13:26 ?? 04:41:57 thanks for checking it 04:43:24 definitely this week's higlight: i flame a n00b and he comes back and says he's sorry. 04:45:21 -!- asiekierka has joined. 04:45:56 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:55:42 -!- pikhq has joined. 04:56:12 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:07:33 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 05:09:44 Idea. "All Sliver creatures have Soulbond and 'As long as this creature is paired with another creature, all slivers have the abilities of each of those creatures.' and 'As long as this creature is paired with another creature, each of those creatures is a sliver in addition to its other types.'" 05:09:49 I call it "Assimilating Sliver" 05:10:14 Borg Sliver 05:10:43 Also, "Creature - Eldrazi Sliver" :) 05:11:02 No. 05:11:03 Just no. 05:11:22 Well, it'd happen if you played Assimilating Sliver. 05:13:53 Anything that results in "All Slivers gain Annihilator anything" is "no" 05:14:03 Mistform Ultimus has been screwing up trivia questions for years 05:14:15 (as well as the keyword version of its ability that turned up all over the place in Lorwyn) 05:15:38 Madoka-Kaname: What, and Mirrorweave isn't? 05:19:58 Soulbond? 05:20:15 Sgeo: Mechanic in Avacyn Restored. 05:20:39 Use t3h googles 05:21:30 Ah, ok 05:31:10 pikhq: oh, that's out already? 05:31:12 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 05:31:15 not really following Magic nowadays 05:31:47 heh, today's daily mtg article is about soulbond's history 05:37:55 ais523: Avacyn Restored was actually a rather good set; might be worth caring about. 05:39:01 And I am going to be upset if they screw up Return to Ravnica... 05:41:09 -!- augur has joined. 05:41:20 -!- DH____ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 05:42:12 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 05:44:17 doing Ravnica again? must be running out of ideas :) 05:44:32 I did enjoy Ravnica, although Time Spiral is still my favourite block 05:45:22 Either it'll suck or it'll be awesome. I don't see it going in between. 05:45:40 And, yeah, Time Spiral was glorious. 05:53:50 apparently it was unpopular sales-wise, though 05:53:55 compared to the sets around it 05:54:54 i had a dream that satan worshippers and some sort of vampire enthusiasts were holding a joint meeting, and the vampire dudes were reading stories from their vampire bible (presumably written by charlaine harris) 05:56:51 I like the puzzle games for Magic: the Gathering, and figuring out reactions between existing and possible card texts, and playing in Limited tournaments 05:58:13 for some reason, the vampire dudes had a crusifix from which they drank blood (and occasionally it was wine) and another crusifix that played scary music. 06:00:23 ais523: Well, it did come between Ravnica and Lorwyn. 06:00:37 pikhq: Lorwyn's the reason I stopped playing Magic 06:00:43 And, unfortunately, as a nostalgia set it would have somewhat less general appeal. 06:00:53 and I had nothing to be nostalgic about, I started with Ninth Edition 06:01:14 Still, Time Spiral was a delightful set, design-wise. 06:01:17 I just liked it mechanically 06:03:23 Also, why did *Lorwyn* make you stop playing Magic? 06:03:36 didn't like the flavour, didn't like the mechanics, didn't like the focus on creatures 06:03:49 So... Not a big tribal fan? 06:04:04 I like Slivers, but I don't like tribal for the sake of tribal 06:04:55 Surprised it wasn't Shards that did it. (seriously, *six fucking years* of multicolor in Standard?) 06:05:06 shards just persuaded me not to come back :) 06:09:07 I think the focus on creatures recently has turned me off Magic somewhat 06:11:50 Ah, you're one of those people that does things like break Tamiyo. :P http://magiccards.info/avr/en/79.html 06:12:19 -!- asiekierka has quit (Quit: Wychodzi). 06:12:31 oh, I was wrong, it was /planeswalkers/ that turned me off Magic 06:12:35 forgot those existed, bleh 06:13:10 only reason I wasn't raging during Future Sight was that I assumed that Tarmogoyf's flavour text was a joke 06:13:14 (which it could have been, quite easily) 06:14:08 huh, Avacyn Restored is a large? I assumed it was a small set 06:14:10 If it makes you feel better, most planeswalkers are little more than a Lightning Bolt sink. 06:14:18 Yeah, it was a weird block-ending large set. 06:15:06 and planeswalkers being a lightning bolt sink ties into why I don't like creatures so much 06:15:27 I don't mind simple creatures, but I prefer the creatures to sit there on the battlefield and do, at most, combat tricks 06:16:04 while the players maneouver around them with their instants and sorceries and enchantments trying to give one side the advantage over the other, either by gaining combat advantage with creatures, or directly 06:16:54 And they've been making creatures do more largely in hopes of making tournament decks actually run creatures. 06:17:13 Kinda-sorta worked. 06:17:32 Though the recent Pro Tour winning deck only ran any creatures in sideboard. 06:17:47 Just a giant pile of miracle spells and cantrips. 06:18:06 haha :) 06:18:18 purpose of creatures is to stop you dying to red 06:18:48 UPDATE, UPDATE, give me your answer do 06:18:55 hi 06:19:21 or even white or green, arguably, but the strategy's most commonly seen in red 06:19:40 (that of just putting down lots of cheap creatures early and overrunning the opponent before they can set up whatever they were going to do) 06:19:57 Planeswalkers end up having very different feel to me in formats where Doubling Season is legal. 06:20:22 Tamiyo now reads "3{U}{U}: You get an emblem with "You have no maximum hand size" and "Whenever a card is put into your graveyard from anywhere, you may return it to your hand."" 06:20:27 :) 06:20:36 pikhq, do you play MtG online, and if so, where and how? 06:20:45 Sgeo: I play MtG IRL. 06:21:34 to play it online "officially", you have to pay as much money as it'd cost to get the cards otherwise 06:21:40 pikhq: *two emblems :) 06:21:49 (I know it doesn't work on emblems, but it /should/) 06:21:56 ais523, and thus, no desire on my part to play MtGO 06:21:59 -!- Patashu has joined. 06:22:00 indeed 06:22:03 nor mine 06:22:12 Do people like Cockatrice? 06:22:18 the physical cards are actually worth something for the art design, IMO, apart from the game (although not as much as they cost) 06:22:36 I happen to dislike many of the rules in Magic: the Gathering 06:22:55 I also prefer Limited format games over Constructed 06:25:40 I don't think they need emblems, tribals, state-based effects causing tokens to cease to exist, rule that a land card cannot be played as its other types, etc. There are better ways to write the rules to avoid these things. 06:26:19 “A lot of people still confuse Austria and Australia, I hope this makes it clear.” https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OE9rTUfHE8k/T6_yazqUw0I/AAAAAAAAA8I/jvMOuw0z_tA/w497-h373/Jda6h.jpg 06:35:44 We can make up the new game, based on Magic: the Gathering but with differences, including that you do not have to purchase the cards (you can also print them out or write them out, or play by computer; you don't have to pay). As well as making the standard game Limited instead of Constructed. 06:41:26 Well, there's a reason for the whole purchasing the cards thing: So WotC makes money 06:59:00 Yes, I understand. But, we make up new game it is differ, not using the old cards therefore not using old compatibility rules either. Someone can sell cards if they want to but is not required to play game. Or you can write puzzle-game too. But rules are many differences nevertheless. 07:17:17 zzo38: Of the tournament formats, Limited is quite a lot better IMO. 07:17:42 It's both more fun and a much better test of skill than Constructed. 07:18:09 Not to mention it completely avoids rich-kid syndrome. 07:18:38 Which is by far the worst part of Magic. 07:18:45 I actually prefer Constructed, especially when I'm beating the world's best decks with ones that I can afford 07:19:09 sometimes with flukes, but it's still amusing 07:19:49 I tend to do vintage casual constructed (okay, so most of my decks are modern too, because I'm cheap. :P) 07:20:25 Really, Magic is at its best in casual play... 07:22:25 Friggin' rarity-directly-mapping-to-usefulness. 07:23:23 It might be good business, but it also warps the game into a contest of money. 07:30:04 pikhq: And that kind of contest about money is one things I dislike about it. And your thing you describe also why Limited is better I agree that Limited is better in that (and other) way. 07:44:47 pikhq: rarity mapping to usefulness is partly to accommodate Limited by making drafting first-picks more important 07:45:09 but it might be more interesting the other way, where cards only useful in Constructed are placed at rare to avoid them impinging on Limited too much 07:47:10 -!- Taneb has joined. 07:47:33 ais523: I agree with you on that; I do think that setting the rarity of cards in that way might improve the game (it could be partially tried to see what happen, I suppose). 07:47:46 Hello 07:48:25 the problem with the rarities at the moment is mythic, really 07:49:07 they're trying to make exciting cards powerful, but also tend to put exciting cards at mythic (so that getting them is /more/ exciting, and to make booster packs more valuable because people will have to open more of them to get single cards that they can sell on to people who want them) 07:50:11 Yes these are the many problems with the game, relating to the cards. There are problems with the rules too, but there are also problems with the cards like you are describing. 07:51:45 ais523: Agreed, strongly. Also, I feel like rarity should be more a function of how general a card is. Something like Birds of Paradise should be common, not rare. 07:52:03 pikhq: currently specific cards are consistently placed at uncommon 07:52:24 which sort-of makes sense for limited, because a specific card can be drafted around 07:52:41 especially if it's specific and also one of the set's main mechanics 07:52:49 Yeah... General is common or rare, specific is uncommon, and anything "big" is rare, and anything awesome is mythic rare. 07:53:40 Cavern of Souls should not be rare. 07:53:48 http://magiccards.info/avr/en/226.html BTW 07:53:54 what about One with Nothing? people hated that being rare 07:54:01 I guess if all rares were like that it wouldn't matter 07:54:23 If it's a card that nearly every deck wants, it shouldn't be friggin' rare. 07:58:12 common or uncommon, in your opinion? 07:58:25 arguably it's narrow, but it's so customizably narrow it fits into most decks 07:58:46 (which is apparently deliberate; apparently, they needed to nerf Mana Leak due to a mistake in balancing Snapcaster Mage) 07:58:49 One with Nothing, depends on what the rest of the set's doing. 07:59:04 Cavern of Souls? Common. 07:59:05 Well, if you manage to get One with Nothing in your deck for some reason such as drafting and so on, then, if it is in your hand, and then it is useful to you then please play this card. 08:00:09 It's something you'll be happy to play in any deck that happens to weigh towards a single creature type. 08:00:26 Which even in the absence of specific tribal effects, is reasonably common. 08:00:31 I guess another example is dual land, which should be common (but putting it at rare is obviously better for revenue) 08:00:51 Dual lands are really good examples of this. 08:01:19 If I am playing with two colors, I want duals out the wazoo. I want to pretend duals are basic lands. 08:02:13 $100 *mana bases* are a fucking joke. 08:02:19 right 08:02:29 my best deck is five-color combo 08:02:37 and it basically contains all the dual lands I own 08:02:55 That *in specific* presents a gigantic barrier to entry for tournaments. 08:02:57 (I move them between decks when I need them, obviously, rather than having separate lands for separate decks) 08:04:07 It's plausible that by doing this WotC could make *more* money, actually... 08:04:16 By having more people play and more people play in tournaments. 08:04:47 I have a sneaking suspicion the rarity issues end up driving people off the game. 08:05:09 Make Limited the standard game. 08:06:28 limited is even worse, then you have to buy booster packs every game you play 08:07:33 And mythics only make it worse, really: I can't realistically play planeswalkers without either paying through the nose for a playset or buying *several boxes*? That's just shitty. 08:09:20 ais523: But Limited is a better game anyways. Perhaps if you can put the cards back in the shuffle and make up random packs at the tournament, do not need to purchase (and print!) new cards every time. 08:09:47 even when not worrying about the cost, I prefer Constructed, but perhaps that's more to do with the sort of games I like 08:10:59 I prefer Limited regardless of cost, but you play how you prefer. 08:11:11 ais523: My preference for limited is almost exclusively due to balance. 08:12:39 The game's balanced around either limited or assuming everyone has $500 a block to blow. 08:12:46 s/block/set/ 08:13:50 Or, well, assuming everyone involved is on an equal financial footing, really. 08:14:06 Black Lotus is balanced if everybody's got one. :P 08:15:29 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 08:15:29 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 08:15:29 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 08:15:41 -!- derdon has joined. 08:17:50 pikhq: I'm not convinced; budget decks can often get quite close to the best non-budget decks 08:19:02 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 08:19:54 ais523: http://magiccards.info/mbs/en/99.html Deal with that in pauper why don't you. (okay, fine, you need a vintage card pool to make that even slightly feasible to pull out.) 08:20:28 mana leak? 08:20:54 oblivion ring (is that common?)? 08:21:10 Oblivion ring got bumped to uncommon. Because... ? 08:21:22 Got a friend who can, with a god hand, drop that sucker turn 2. 08:21:24 it was common once, though 08:22:21 actually, I think white has quite a few exilers at common 08:22:38 Tinker, BTW, is obscenity. 08:22:40 admittedly, you're probably going to be needing to play blue or white to deal with it at common, though 08:23:17 because of the trample and indestructibility, missing either would give loads of ours 08:23:18 *outs 08:23:22 oh, Pacifism works 08:23:31 also white, though 08:24:33 Also, sol ring + island + tinker = turn 2 Blightsteel. 08:24:43 -!- zzo38 has quit (Quit: My father hit my head on a truck (which was illegally parked), but I have a percussion!!). 08:25:26 tinker's banned in just about every format 08:25:34 (there is a reason sol ring and tinker are restricted, though) 08:25:46 and a reason force of will is all over the place in formats where they're allowed 08:26:24 losing three cards is less bad than losing the game 08:26:59 $50 card there. 08:27:20 (I assume you didn't mean force of will?) 08:27:33 might have got the wrong name 08:27:37 counterspell costing pitch two 08:27:48 Guess it's similar at least. 08:28:03 Force of Will is counterspell costing 1 life and exile 1 blue card. 08:28:14 oh, got the right name, wrong effect 08:28:19 pitch 1 and 1 life is obviously better 08:28:30 and so would obviously be used instead 08:28:34 I can believe it's $50 08:28:41 For "heavily played" no less. 08:29:19 Also, recommending counterspells as a solution doesn't help with someone who also thinks counterspells are overpowered. :P 08:30:39 it's natural that overpowered things would be necessary to deal with other overpowered things :) 08:30:47 arguably, it's card draw that's overpowered rather than counterspells 08:30:54 counterspells don't really work without a draw engine backing them up 08:31:30 I also happen to think that forms of draw effects should be in all colors... 08:32:12 rather than just red and blue? (and red isn't allowed to get card advantage from it unless its hand is empty) 08:32:26 Obviously, not doable without basically rebalancing every single part of the game though. (elves with *card draw*? Holy fuck.) 08:32:29 Yeah. 08:32:45 I am having a nostalgia trip right now 08:32:55 Found a "Sgeo was here" sign I posted in AW in 2002 08:35:58 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 08:36:46 screb 08:36:51 No lambdabot :( 08:36:58 Phantom_Hoover, when I have time, I can play Worms 08:37:05 And I can host and I have access to Full Wormage 08:37:25 I have a chemistry exam this afternoon so I'm not playing games before then. 08:38:27 -!- azaq23 has joined. 08:38:43 -!- azaq23 has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 08:38:54 Ah, ok 08:39:04 Good luck! 09:09:42 -!- qfr has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 09:11:05 http://uhatsearch.appspot.com/prices/Heavy 09:11:07 Holy shit. 09:11:17 I had no idea the TF2 economy was *this* serious. 09:12:05 -!- qfr has joined. 09:13:00 Phantom_Hoover, I'm not signed in to Steam 09:13:01 Hmm, I guess each of those items would require, on average, an investment of 200 to get, so it's not all that surprising. 09:13:06 Oh, right. 09:13:22 Sgeo, it's a chart of hats with particle effects in TF2. 09:13:29 Ah 09:13:40 The cheapest is $37. 09:14:00 The most expensive is $400 and most are over $100l 09:15:31 It's not even all that uncommon to see people in matches wearing them; I guess the world is just full of Gregors. 09:16:14 -!- itidus21 has joined. 09:18:22 -!- itidus20 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 09:30:36 I only have three hats in my "I like wearing these from time to time" collection 09:31:53 -!- itidus20 has joined. 09:35:14 -!- itidus21 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 09:35:14 Phantom_Hoover: No, no, no, Gregor wears hats IRL. 09:35:28 The world would be a much classier place if the world was full of Gregors. 09:35:31 True, but how many of them are on fire? 09:35:46 Also much more vibrant: I swear, his color choices glow. 09:35:57 Also no, on account of being classy != pretending to be classy. 09:36:08 cf. reddit's unbearable deluge of 'good sir's. 09:36:52 Y'mean hats aren't the source of class? 09:40:18 No. 09:43:41 Reddit lied to me! 09:48:08 Neither are monocles, HTH 09:51:55 `addquote The world would be a much classier place if the world was full of Gregors. True, but how many of them are on fire? 09:52:08 855) The world would be a much classier place if the world was full of Gregors. True, but how many of them are on fire? 09:52:11 `quote 09:52:13 `quote 09:52:14 `quote 09:52:16 `quote 09:52:17 `quote 09:52:27 150) Never ever use a quote which contains both the words "aloofness" and "gel" (verb). 09:52:32 131) reading playboy for the articles actually seems plausible nowadays after all, there's porn all over the internet, why would you /pay/ for it 09:52:46 5) GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. 09:52:49 168) Doing logs with dc is probably indicative of something in the DSM. 09:52:50 428) oerjan, little do you realise that everything you say and do is part of that great monad tutorial we call life. 09:53:12 I don't get 150 or 168, although 168 is less funny if you don't get it 09:53:14 opinions? 09:53:41 168 I'd say is the worst 09:53:49 I think 150 is funny due to its absurdity 09:53:55 `delquote 168 09:53:58 ​*poof* Doing logs with dc is probably indicative of something in the DSM. 09:54:00 we're in agreement, I think 09:54:10 and elliott isn't here so he can't tell us why we're wrong 10:07:01 -!- cheater__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:07:29 -!- cheater__ has joined. 10:09:26 -!- wareya has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:10:08 -!- wareya has joined. 10:12:33 -!- PatashuXantheres has joined. 10:15:19 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 10:18:04 -!- david_werecat has joined. 10:37:44 -!- ais523 has quit. 10:53:42 -!- derdon has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:56:27 -!- rszeno has joined. 10:56:49 hello everybody 10:58:08 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 11:00:55 Hello 11:11:18 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:26:27 -!- david_werecat has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:30:25 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 11:30:25 -!- sebbu3 has quit (Changing host). 11:30:25 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 11:33:56 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 11:43:17 hello 11:43:18 -!- ais523 has joined. 11:43:23 -!- ais523 has quit (Changing host). 11:43:23 -!- ais523 has joined. 11:44:35 hi cheater__ 11:44:39 how's tricks 11:45:12 -!- ais523_ has joined. 11:45:15 -!- ais523 has quit (Disconnected by services). 11:45:17 -!- ais523_ has changed nick to ais523. 11:45:36 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725]). 11:49:43 -!- PatashuXantheres has changed nick to Patashu. 11:50:02 -!- itidus21 has joined. 11:52:42 hmm, it's weird having an argument with someone on reddit where there are a bunch of people upvoting all your comments and downvoting all the comments of the person you're arguing with 11:52:44 -!- itidus20 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 11:53:00 strange having internet arguments and being proved right that quickly 11:54:43 kmc: o hi 11:54:52 kmc: just made some fish dish 11:54:54 pish tosh 11:55:57 what kind of fish 11:58:56 alaska salmon 11:58:58 nothing fancy 11:59:04 mechanically separated 11:59:18 it was on promotion (is that what you say?) 12:00:04 i tried some fancy spices today 12:01:06 atlantic grain salt with a grinder, lime juice (again), lemon peppa, galgant, and a nice 3 pepper mix 12:01:10 not all at once 12:01:43 i did salt on all, then tried lemon peppa several times with and without galgant, and then tried the pepper. 12:01:50 lemon peppa is very spicy. 12:02:00 i expected it to be more.. lemony. 12:02:14 oh, also orange-flavour olive oil 12:02:20 -!- qfr has quit (Changing host). 12:02:20 -!- qfr has joined. 12:02:21 huh, didn't know that's a thing 12:02:22 which is fun because it smells so nice 12:02:28 what 12:02:31 galgant or lemon peppa? 12:02:48 orange-flavour olive oil 12:02:51 -!- Taneb has left ("Leaving"). 12:02:58 oh yeah you get lots of different flavours 12:03:03 here's a tip 12:03:12 lemon or vanilla ice cream with lemon olive oil 12:03:19 galgant is like ginger right? 12:03:20 tru story 12:03:31 yeah but it's h4wt3r 12:03:37 i think it's called galangal in english 12:03:51 yea 12:04:00 i have seen that name 12:04:31 have you ever had any fresh galangal? 12:04:39 dude. that is fucking insane 12:04:46 i've never eaten anything spicier 12:04:47 i haven't 12:04:51 it's like 12:05:05 you take this tiny piece, like 0.5 cm on the side 12:05:12 and you chew on it 12:05:16 and you don't feel anything 12:05:23 then it hits you 12:05:38 and it's like, super-concentrated ginger 12:05:48 you like spicy stuff you gotta try it 12:06:14 i will 12:06:18 also it may only have been the one i've had but the taste was much more bitter 12:06:21 like they shoved aspirin in it 12:06:23 there's an indian grocery down the street 12:06:25 they might have it 12:06:39 yea 12:07:02 i guess it's from southeast asia 12:07:07 i should find a thai grocery, that would be baller 12:07:11 do they speak rike rear indian immiglants 12:07:14 "Polish vodka Zoladkowa Gorzka is flavoured with galanga." 12:07:21 lol 12:07:23 wtf 12:07:41 that vodka is actually the secret tip 12:07:43 like 12:07:45 "The secret recipe includes, among others: wormwood, gentian root, pepper, and galangal." 12:07:52 this sounds like it would taste like satan's own asshole 12:08:01 for students and shit 12:08:06 it's not too expensive but it kicks well and doesn't taste of potatos or any other cheap vodka taste 12:08:24 speaking of satan's own asshole 12:08:31 i have a tip for you for a drink that you'll love 12:08:37 you will love it cause it has tobasco on it 12:08:40 in 12:09:14 you need vodka, tabasco, and raspberry sirup (the kind you make soft drinks out of, not the one for topping ice cream) 12:09:38 you take a small shot glass, fill it 1/3 with the sirup 12:09:53 then you fill the rest with vodka slowly so as not to disturb the sirup 12:10:08 once that's in you add a drop of tobasco, it hovers nicely in a sphere above the sirup 12:10:10 looks cool 12:10:21 and is said to be really good for parties 12:10:47 i served it on several birthdays and people loved it 12:11:14 u gotta try it 12:11:28 possibly with "Polish vodka Zoladkowa Gorzka" 12:11:40 oh in case you're wondering what the name means 12:11:50 it translates to "stomach vodka, bitter" 12:11:57 i never understood that. 12:12:14 i think they make it by fermenting goat stomachs or something. 12:12:21 probably not though. 12:14:11 Greater galangal is native to Java. It is widely used in Indonesia and Malaysia as a food flavouring and spice. Lesser galangal is native to China, growing mainly on the southeast coast. It is also grown in India and the rest of South East Asia. Although barely used in Europe today, both galangals were formerly imported in great quantity, as medicine and spice. 12:14:42 fuck 12:14:49 there are people who snuff galangal 12:14:51 i brewed ginger beer a few times 12:14:55 that's gotta be unhealthy 12:14:55 i wonder if you could make galangal beer 12:15:00 i bet you could 12:15:07 after all it's not like real beer is it 12:15:14 not really 12:15:38 so kmc my next project might be with the yii php web framework 12:15:45 try to pronounce it 12:15:47 "yii" 12:16:15 you just like make a strong ginger tea, put sugar and yeast in, and let it sit a couple of days 12:16:29 haha 12:16:40 actually sounds like disgusting shit 12:16:42 it will produce a bit of alcohol but it gets un-tasty before it hits typical beer abv 12:16:55 i could never drink alcohol, it really dejects me 12:17:13 why yii php 12:17:22 because i can get a job 12:17:25 and i need the money 12:17:39 i'll suck dick for nuggets 12:20:40 not everyone has hit it big with ksplorifice like you have kmc 12:20:59 i'm just a pauper 12:22:52 what kind of nuggets 12:22:54 chicken? 12:23:07 any 12:23:10 even poop nuggets 12:23:50 :( 12:23:51 but i was thinking of chicken nuggets, yes. 12:28:29 so apparently the galangal i have had was Greater Galangal 12:28:49 which is orange to brown 12:29:05 indians apparently only have lesser galangal, which is red 12:29:21 red to reddish brown 12:30:19 -!- Lumpio_ has joined. 12:30:47 -!- Taneb has joined. 12:30:50 Hello 12:31:05 hi Taneb 12:31:08 -!- ion has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:31:12 oh hi 12:31:21 -!- Lumpio- has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 12:31:49 -!- ion has joined. 12:35:42 man, american accents are so annoying in movies sometimes 12:35:48 they shoul like 12:35:59 always dub a british english version 12:39:24 -!- function has changed nick to variable. 12:47:51 -!- nortti has joined. 13:08:09 -!- nortti has quit (Quit: leaving). 13:14:55 -!- asiekierka has joined. 13:34:52 -!- sebbu3 has changed nick to sebbu. 13:46:07 -!- boily has joined. 13:46:08 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 13:46:37 -!- Slereah has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 13:51:18 Tried Portal 2 in coop mode with a friend. It’s fun. 13:52:00 network or split-screen? 13:53:09 -!- Slereah has joined. 14:00:56 Over the Internet. 14:01:01 with VoIP 14:07:26 -!- Patashu has quit (Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 .). 14:15:13 Tried Portal 2 in coop mode with a friend. It’s fun. 14:15:22 A selected moment from coöp mode between me and a friend: 14:15:45 *we both enter the map, and immediately try to jump over a short fence to our deaths, failing* "Wow, I like how both of us immediately try to kill ourselves." 14:16:24 :-) 14:24:03 -!- rszeno has left. 14:29:44 The voip thing is a good idea in that particular game. 14:31:12 lol coöp 14:36:54 “Listen” http://translate.google.fi/#fi|fi|co%C3%B6peration 14:42:35 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 14:42:53 -!- Slereah has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 14:45:48 -!- Slereah has joined. 14:47:54 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 14:49:58 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 14:50:09 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Client Quit). 14:50:37 -!- Slereah has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:58:49 A selected moment from cop mode between me and a friend: 14:58:49 *we both enter the map, and immediately try to jump over a short fence to our deaths, failing* "Wow, I like how both of us immediately try to kill ourselves." 14:59:00 Fuckers, I've been looking for someone to play coop with for ages. 14:59:25 -!- nortti has joined. 15:07:31 The 66 % discount is still active, get a friend to purchase it now that it’s cheap. 15:15:19 Phantom_Hoover, I've got a choice of two, and yet I don't. 15:15:35 Taneb, I will play with you!!! 15:15:46 -!- Tod-Autojoined has joined. 15:16:14 > 0.75/0.80 15:16:15 0.9375 15:16:17 My computer isn't good enough :/ 15:16:32 But now I have a choice of THREE and yet I don't 15:16:35 -!- TodPunk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:16:42 > 0.67/0.80 15:16:42 0.8375 15:18:15 Taneb, steal better computer 15:18:17 from elliott 15:18:25 I have a slightly more legal plan 15:18:43 /buy/ a better computer 15:18:46 no 15:18:48 steal 15:18:49 elliott 15:18:50 does not use 15:18:51 it 15:18:53 anyway 15:19:08 Taneb: how good is your computer? 15:19:47 nortti, good enough to play minecraft to my standards, not good enough to play minecraft to anyone else's standards 15:20:22 Phantom_Hoover, but then I'd lose my Neutral Good license! 15:21:02 `? hexham 15:21:05 hexham? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:21:09 `? Hexham 15:21:12 Hexham? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:21:20 `ls wisdom 15:21:23 ​? \ ais523 \ augur \ banach-tarski \ c \ cakeprophet \ category \ coffee \ comonad \ coppro \ egobot \ elliott \ endofunctor \ esoteric \ europe \ everyone \ finland \ finns \ fizzie \ flower \ friendship \ functor \ fungot \ glogbot \ gregor \ hackego \ haskell \ ievan \ intercal \ internationale \ itidus20 \ itidus21 \ kallisti \ lens \ lifthrasiir \ mad \ misspellings of croissant \ monad \ monads \ monoid \ monqy 15:21:30 `pastelogs `learn Hexham 15:22:02 `? misspellings of croissant 15:22:03 No output. 15:22:06 misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:23:01 Taneb: I can't take seriously anyone who claims to have computer not good enough if they have computer that is much faster than mine 15:23:36 Do you play Portal 2 a lot? 15:23:57 Taneb: oh. you ment for gaming 15:24:17 my computer had a signifigant gpu upgrade recently 15:24:25 but.. i am at a loss of what software to use :D 15:25:00 write your own :) 15:25:06 i work my computer hard with xchat 15:25:58 itidus21, connect to ALL the servers 15:26:13 all the irc servers on earth? 15:26:17 And join #esoteric and complain about how now you don't know what software to use 15:26:20 itidus21, ALL OF THEM 15:28:12 ok i surrender! i have emulators, and lego wolfenstein, and some unused 3d modelling stuff, 15:28:36 i waste my life away like so many trailing periods.......... 15:29:00 itidus21, get Dwarf Fortress 15:30:23 no no i had an evil idea about DF... 15:30:41 Then get Minecraft? 15:31:02 exactly.. the thought occured to me that DF could be rendered in voxels 15:31:22 `quote 855 15:31:25 It could, quite easily. 15:31:25 855) i once had a dream when i was told to look after some kittens but they were made of chocolate and i ate them :( 15:31:34 There are programs that do that 15:31:36 (Added by elliott in /msg) 15:31:42 ahhh 15:31:43 wow 15:31:52 are some of them great? 15:32:01 I dunno, never used them 15:32:10 yes its like blasphemy 15:33:04 No, they're just a bitch to run on Linux. 15:33:40 itidus21, http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63484.0/ 15:34:18 for the record, i am not going to do any of these things.. but i do enjoy topics i can understand :-D 15:34:56 One does not simply understan-- sorry no saying that's cutting too close to the pikhq line. 15:35:28 i dont understand DF proper.. but i do understand that it can be rendered :D 15:35:54 Hey, λnfx.n(λgh.h(gf))(λu.x)(λu.u) 15:36:03 noooooo 15:36:52 λg.(λx.g(xx))(λx.g(xx)) 15:39:07 Sorry 15:40:09 i think there is simply no trivial way to describe what LC does illustratively 15:40:50 like it wouldn't be a good basis for a cartoon, or would it? 15:41:19 http://code.google.com/p/visual-lambda/ 15:41:30 http://worrydream.com/AlligatorEggs/ 15:42:25 New from the makers of Dragon Ball, Lamuda Karukurusu 15:42:41 :o 15:42:49 is it better than blue dragon probably? :D 15:43:38 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:44:48 kmc: i think that basically.. they need to go the whole hog.. and make a 30 minute narrative based cartoon with a lambda calculus motif 15:48:15 "Bravo! You have just written Forth in Brainfuck written in Forth." 15:48:17 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 15:48:26 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Changing host). 15:48:26 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 15:48:45 Boy I love how Freenode's host masking is basically useless. 15:49:38 Hm? 15:49:57 i hear you can set your client to authenticate to nickserv as you connect 15:50:24 Phantom_Hoover: 15:50:25 * Phantom_Hoover (~Phantom@cpc15-sgyl29-2-0-cust133.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #esoteric 15:50:25 * Phantom_Hoover has quit (Changing host) 15:50:25 * Phantom_Hoover (~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486) has joined #esoteric 15:50:32 Yeahno. 15:50:52 That's just me setting the wrong fields in XChat, as kmc says. 15:51:21 Hmm, I'm not sure that /is/ the problem. 15:51:54 The problem is that even if you set up the nickserv password in the client, there's no established handshake, so it can't wait for the response. 15:52:21 So if you have autojoin, there's a very high chance that you will join before NickServ has authenticated you, unless NickServ is atomic w.r.t. the rest of the network, which it typically is not. 16:02:23 Gregor: i am a big fan of akira toriyama and it is implied you are to some degree 16:02:45 That is one stretch of an implication, since I have no clue what/who you're talking about. 16:03:05 Presumably someone (?) related to the Dragon Ball series. 16:03:21 -!- zzo38 has joined. 16:03:51 Gregor: as was mentioned, if you supply your nickserv password as the PASSWORD, then the cloak is applied immediately 16:04:23 Ahh, I didn't know Freenode accepted the nickserv password as the network password. 16:04:23 coppro: I don't think so; I supply mine as the password, and it doesn't happen immediately enough 16:04:25 Makes sense I suppose. 16:04:31 and I also /msg nickserv afterwards just to make sure 16:04:41 [Notice] -NickServ- You are already logged in as ais523. 16:05:06 ais523: that sounds wrong; it is supposed to supply the cloak before you are able to join any channels 16:05:21 Gregor: Also, there is an established handshake 16:05:37 mode +i 16:05:44 coppro: Then just don't join any channel before the NickServ message comes on. The amount of time it takes varies 16:06:50 -!- zzo38 has set topic: SPOILER ALERT: I die in the end | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric. 16:06:55 If that thingy ever happens to me, tell me 16:07:16 Gregor: ahhh cool i see 16:07:23 ok ok.. false implication 16:07:42 Gregor: Also, there is an established handshake // I mean established across all networks. 16:08:26 You can login to NickServ using the PASS command, but sometimes there may be a delay before NickServ does anything about it (I am unsure why). 16:12:16 Presumably it just passes it into the whole *Serv substrate, which is not atomic w.r.t. the rest of the network. 16:12:28 (It's essentially an agent, not a server component) 16:18:14 akira toriyama was behind the art and story of dragonball, but of course they always have uncredited assistants. he also did art for many video games: dragon quest, chrono trigger, tobal, blue dragon 16:24:17 itidus21: But it seem three of them are "dragon" 16:24:45 lol 16:25:52 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:26:19 -!- nortti has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:26:24 i think dragonball is by far his greatest work 16:27:10 -!- nortti has joined. 16:27:24 -!- rszeno has joined. 16:30:25 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 16:30:40 -!- Lumpio_ has changed nick to Lumpio-. 16:30:51 * kmc reads 20IOCCC entries 16:30:56 nice work Gregor :) 16:33:11 ^^ 16:33:21 <-- only winner with indented code, too 8-D 16:34:25 its the sort of thing i wish i could make myself.. i can't figure it out for the life of me how someone can just make a dragon ball story happen.. 16:39:46 Indeed. 16:40:03 Dragonball is among the greatest of human endeavours. 16:40:11 Hey monqy never made a self-portrait of me 16:40:13 bastard 16:40:19 itidus21, can you do it 16:45:32 the methodology i have been trying is to fight convention, as if modern authors and artists had been swept out to sea by a riptide of convention 16:45:43 but i haven't been trying very hard 16:51:15 You realise that having "fighting convention" as your entire creative vision inevitably just ends up with a piece of crap. 16:52:09 -!- ais523 has quit. 16:52:48 i basically think that whatever kind of video games i make will be crappy in the same way as scott mccloud's zot comics are inherently quite crappy 16:54:13 -!- azaq23 has joined. 16:54:24 -!- azaq23 has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 16:54:53 -!- azaq23 has joined. 16:56:02 crappy can be interpreted as, probably noone wants to own the license 16:57:26 its very true that i just can't ignore the fact that he wrote a book about comics more popular than any actual comic he made 17:05:30 but he takes it in good jest http://scottmccloud.com/1-webcomics/misc/notneil.jpg 17:07:36 -!- calamari has joined. 17:14:50 -!- augur has joined. 17:20:04 -!- rszeno has left. 17:29:00 -!- zzo38 has quit (Quit: :1: Program exit by user). 17:34:28 -!- cheater__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 17:37:53 -!- cheater__ has joined. 17:42:27 -!- Taneb has joined. 17:42:34 Hello 17:42:53 Is it just me, or does the internet seem quite left-wing? 17:43:39 probably it's just you 17:43:56 by which i mean, the internet makes it easy to only interact with people who agree with you politically 17:44:04 Hmm 17:44:20 That is a fair point 17:44:58 and indeed makes it easy to only interact with people who believe the same factually incorrect things as you 17:45:01 which is troubling 17:45:53 Wow, I've never thought of it like that 17:46:34 kmc: chorizo and mushroom spaghetti 17:47:19 """ 17:47:19 and indeed makes it easy to only interact with people who believe the same factually incorrect things as you 17:47:19 which is troubling 17:47:19 Wow, I've never thought of it like that""" <<< how meta-recursive 17:48:16 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/ 17:49:50 Is it just me, or does the internet seem quite left-wing? // I'mma go read Conservapedia kthx 17:50:07 dude kmc 17:50:33 that website makes no sense 17:50:56 cheater__: that's because of the government UFO filtering chip installed in your prefrontal cortex by FEMA 17:51:33 In 1884, meridian time personnel met in Washington to change Earth time. First words said was that only 1 day could be used on Earth to not change the 1 day bible. So they applied the 1 day and ignored the other 3 days. 17:53:54 The ONEist educated with their flawed 1 eye perspective (opposite eyes overlay) Cyclops mentality, inflicts static non pulsating logos as a fictitious queer same sex transformation. 17:53:59 You tell 'em, Gene Ray! X-D 17:59:22 educated stupid by your cocksucker god 18:00:51 -!- nortti has quit (Quit: leaving). 18:01:30 It's amazing how he manages to seamlessly merge his hatred for religion, science, government, homosexuality and academia. 18:03:37 i'm really waiting for the movie 18:03:56 do you know rex curry, Gregor? 18:04:01 i think those two should team up 18:04:34 ??? 18:04:38 http://rexcurry.net/pledge3.html 18:05:11 ... ... sfw? 18:07:54 http://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/containmentpolicy.htm 18:12:57 -!- asiekierka has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:24:40 Gregor: not necessarily 18:27:49 kmc: amazing 18:35:30 -!- zzo38 has joined. 18:40:52 "whoa shit, the number 1 is overloaded with symbolism" 18:41:05 (disclaimer: not an actual quotation) 18:43:07 sooner or later technology will be imposed upon our bodies 18:43:14 maybe not in our lifetime 18:43:23 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 18:43:55 I want a brain gateway to my irssi 18:44:13 you think you want that.. but.. its not good idea... 18:45:06 why not? 18:45:16 I do not want. 18:46:35 any advantages you can derive from direct brain interfaces will become disadvantages once the establishment is geared up 18:47:32 Gregor: how does your IOCCC work? 18:47:36 utopia is not found that way 18:48:09 in my vision, i was on the veranda of a vast estate, a palazzo of some fantastic proportion 18:48:27 itidus21: haha 18:48:32 itidus21: you sound like rex curry. 18:48:41 totally 18:49:08 yibbada yibbada.. thank your mother for the rabbits 18:49:59 ~ rex hunt 18:49:59 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:50:50 Did you know about the various online quiz systems? I try to write compare including the my own program (Internet Quiz Engine). 18:51:06 I also included the text from Wikipedia 18:52:35 The world needs more good quizzes like some given exceedingly deficient thing needs a massive supplement!! 18:53:43 itidus21: Make up a quiz file on Internet Quiz Engine. 18:55:56 the trouble with multiple option dialogue trees is that each node of the tree feels like it's written as follows 18:56:10 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:56:18 1) define several branches in terms of some concrete decision or alignment 18:56:43 2) write in text inspired by the decision or the alignment 18:56:44 Well, in this case it is simply ordered, it is not a tree. But it does support skipping questions based on the answers to previous questions. 18:56:47 -!- sebbu has joined. 18:56:52 3) expect people not to notice :D 18:57:22 Internet Quiz Engine supports up to 26 counters you can keep track of, and when displaying the results you can compare them with each other and with constants. 18:57:24 i propose that a better system would be to make the dialogue more random in nature 18:57:34 ^dialog 18:57:54 . o O (wtf is a dialog anyway.. sounds like webster's handywork) 19:05:37 the explanation is as good as inconclusive 19:05:41 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 19:05:41 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 19:05:41 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 19:09:28 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 19:28:35 -!- nortti has joined. 19:29:04 Gregor: how does your IOCCC work? // quite well, thank you. 19:29:20 (Dig into it a bit, I'll answer /specific/ questions ;) ) 19:35:01 Gregor: I still haven't quite figured it out 19:37:42 IOCCC entries are evil 19:37:46 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 19:37:50 *winners 19:38:09 I can deal with that *shrugs* 19:40:18 -!- oerjan has joined. 19:45:34 Gregor: I'm lazy, please tell me everything about how it works 19:45:49 -!- dessos has joined. 19:46:16 `welcome dessos 19:46:19 dessos: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 19:46:46 olsner: It draws magical machine code from the aether, and then JITs it into the spirit of children all over the world. 19:47:41 ah, the olde powered by a forsaken child trope 19:48:04 or possibly the reverse 19:50:05 to burn Linux logs, you need a degree in physics and chemistry unless you use logbuntu (then reading chemistry books without understanding them is enough) (you'll also burn down your house) 19:54:32 sooner or later technology will be imposed upon our bodies << ahahahahahaha 19:54:46 what do you think you eat, drink, get administered 19:54:53 aspirin isn't technology? 19:55:15 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:56:13 what about aspartame 19:56:18 or asparagus 20:01:02 aspiring technologists with aspergers 20:03:19 -!- augur has joined. 20:07:53 -!- Taneb has joined. 20:08:06 Hello! 20:08:25 There should be a Murderous Maths: Slimy Sets and Crazy Categories 20:08:33 oooh maths 20:09:22 praised be the inaccessible cardinal 20:09:38 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:10:54 hey wouldn't it be funny if there was this esoteric version of math where ordinals were these seriously fucked up things that make you cry with a smile on your face every time you prove stuff about them 20:11:21 you mean math? 20:11:31 This is where I regret leaning what ordinal means via linguistics rather than mathematics 20:11:39 by maths, or by esoteric version of math? 20:11:50 both 20:11:55 then yes. 20:12:17 (i said maths because i prefer to use the term most recently used) 20:12:44 no i meant 20:12:46 AND THEN RANDOMLY SWITCH TWO LINES LATER 20:13:02 maths are an eigenvector of esoteric 20:13:10 a unitary one at that. 20:13:20 yeah i couldn't use that ridiculous term twice in a row 20:13:56 do you mean no one here can do math? 20:14:07 (i know what you mean) 20:14:12 so polskolo 20:14:15 polkolo 20:14:37 yeah 20:14:42 no i mean that usual math is esoteric as it gets 20:14:49 yeah i got that 20:14:58 what sort of music do you listen to 20:15:04 -!- calamari has left ("Leaving"). 20:15:05 But math is short for mathematics! 20:15:14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmfzWpp0hMc 20:15:15 only if you're retarded 20:15:22 oklopol: why not just tell me 20:15:28 oh, well 20:15:39 -!- augur has joined. 20:15:42 do you want like a list or what 20:15:50 anything complicated that i find structure in 20:15:51 yes 20:16:02 have you ever heard of biosphere 20:16:13 Like robotics and hydraulics, but mathsier! 20:16:17 faceless, born of osiris, animals as leaders, after the burial etc 20:16:30 biosphere doesn't ring a bell 20:16:37 that sounds like metal music 20:16:42 is it metal music 20:16:54 can you link something of theirs 20:17:05 it's ambient 20:17:12 electronic music 20:17:18 i suggest the album "substrata" 20:17:31 can you suggest a song, ambient isn't really my style 20:17:56 not really the whole cd needs to be heard to have the effect 20:17:57 if i like something with less than 10 notes a second, it's an anomaly 20:18:15 it's not that slow 20:18:40 actually no 20:18:43 it's very slow 20:18:47 my mental maths failed 20:19:01 cuz i hadn't slept for 40 hours 20:19:09 :-) 20:19:14 why is that 20:20:57 also 10 notes per second is not _really_ a necessary condition. but fast music is usually more interesting. 20:21:47 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-mJPxUt8RE name is fitting, this is hyperboring. 20:23:46 well i guess (04)^\infty is as good a sequence as any. 20:26:20 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: BED). 20:28:22 so how long is this substrata 20:30:44 -!- dessos has left. 20:36:00 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 20:45:54 did you know Unicode has characters to use a character cell as a 4-pixel block? 20:45:54 kmc: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. 20:45:57 ▘▝▀▖▌▞▛▗▚▐▜▄▙▟█ 20:45:57 @messages 20:45:57 cheater__ said 48m 59s ago: sup aspy 20:51:04 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 21:03:07 -!- nortti has quit (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client Sucks @$$( http://www.androirc.com )). 21:07:08 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 21:15:41 -!- rszeno has joined. 21:25:48 -!- boily has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7). 21:55:23 -!- rszeno has left. 21:56:40 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 22:01:28 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 22:17:09 -!- zzo38 has joined. 22:24:03 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:40:32 -!- Patashu has joined. 22:47:20 Phantom_Hoover, I have Portal 2 for what it's worth 22:47:31 Have you played coop? 22:47:41 Yes 22:47:55 Why, are you trying to find someone who hasn't? 22:48:04 Yes. 22:48:22 elliott a) hasn't, b) wants to but c) can't be arsed to actually get Portal 2. 22:56:18 Can a current Agoran tell me what the deal is with the taunt the police mechanic? 22:56:57 -!- Gregor has set topic: SPOILER ALERT: I use the boost to get through | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric. 23:05:34 -!- dessos has joined. 23:05:52 `welcome dessos 23:05:55 dessos: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 23:24:15 -!- david_werecat has joined. 23:28:47 -!- david_werecat has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 23:31:39 -!- zzo38 has joined. 23:32:46 -!- david_werecat has joined. 23:40:44 In Astrolog, when I try to do transit calculation for house cusps it doesn't work. So I tried using flipped sign/houses but that causes the program to crash when flipped sign/houses are selected. 23:47:39 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 23:48:28 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer).