00:07:32 -!- Sgeo|web has joined. 00:11:04 http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/topBANNER-blog-940.jpg This is the best image ever. 00:12:11 elliott: It seems to lack Richard Dean Anderson. 00:13:38 hi monqy 00:14:06 ion: Look closer!!! 00:14:24 If you can't see him, you're not worthy. 00:14:35 elliott: Ah, indeed. He did have a mullet earlier. 00:15:04 http://rdanderson.com/macgyver/home/home.jpg 00:15:10 hmm 00:15:26 That’s clearly him in the picture. 00:15:33 it occurs to me there isn't any programming language named after him 00:15:41 i havent checked but i don't believe i have to 00:15:48 Sgeo|web: hi 00:15:52 monqy: !!!! 00:15:55 oops 00:15:57 I oopsed 00:16:01 poops 00:16:01 Sgeo|web: Apologise at once. 00:16:03 Do you know where to get The PROFESSIONAL Pokemon Sticker Book? 00:16:10 Wait what? 00:16:24 I thought monqy quit quitting hi 00:16:38 Or did monqy quit quitting quitting hi? 00:16:53 fix quit 00:18:31 let fixApply f x = fix f where _ = f x in quit `fixApply` hi 00:18:54 I quit quitting quitting hi. 00:19:05 a macgyver function would probably find a mapping between any set of objects and destruction of an enemy lair 00:19:05 hi monqy 00:19:13 :( 00:19:27 monqy: Quit quitting quitting quitting hi. 00:19:29 Just quit it! 00:19:37 D: 00:19:44 Just quit everything if you do not know what else to quit 00:19:48 shachaf: did you quit qutting hi? 00:19:54 Unless you would rather quit smoking instead 00:19:55 I heard hi was quitting monqy. 00:19:56 monqy: No, I'm still quitting hi. 00:20:11 ion: I circled Richard Dean Anderson to make it easier to see: ...but then imgur didn't want to upload it, so just imagine a red freehand circle around Obama. 00:20:53 I win at Pokemon Card due to opponent's cards being resisted to most of my cards, and due to the opponent picking up too many cards. 00:21:02 kmc: I got mosh's prediction for the first time! 00:21:08 elliott: You might want to ask for your money back from imgur. 00:21:50 To give an analogy with chess, let's say, that if you have two pawn in front of each other with nothing next to it diagonally, then they are stuck and neither one can move. 00:22:05 if (fortknox.macgyver(toothpaste,comb,singlet) == EASILY_ACCESSIBLE) printf("Macgyver method works.\n"); 00:22:41 monqy has quit quitting quitting quittting hi. 00:22:53 sgeoe yuorue awful 00:22:56 Sgeo|web: you deserved that hi 00:22:57 MacGyver doesn’t have access to that many items of syntactic noise, he has manage with the bare minimum. 00:23:01 elliott: it was deserved 00:23:16 monqy: do I deserve hi :'( 00:23:19 ion: you're right... sorry im relatively new to it 00:23:26 still getting used to the concept 00:23:30 shachaf: did you try telling someone about monad tutorials in ##crawl 00:23:34 Then make up the text adventure game involving it 00:23:39 shachaf: that's a pretty good way to get a free hi 00:23:56 17:20:50 < Sgeo|web> ebarrett: any relation to monadic burritos/ 00:23:59 A text adventure involving monqy quitting^n hi? 00:24:01 exhibit A 00:24:14 ion: Involving anything, not necessarily that. 00:24:15 17:24 < monqy> shachaf: hi 00:24:27 shachaf: did you try telling someone about monad tutorials in ##crawl 00:24:32 he did 00:24:37 i actually just dug my nails into my face right now 00:24:38 thanks Sgeo|web 00:24:43 you can't see it but i did 00:24:44 Dungeon Crawl is like monad tutorials. 00:24:44 Did you try telling someone about monad tutorials tutorials? 00:24:54 17:24 < shachaf> monqy: monad = burrito 00:24:54 17:24 < shachaf> qed 00:24:54 17:24 < shachaf> hi 00:25:01 hi 00:25:16 you're all terrible 00:25:23 elliott: ok i'll distract you 00:25:26 elliott: it was an analogous situation 00:25:32 its time 00:25:36 ^it's 00:25:46 no 00:25:46 no 00:25:46 NO 00:25:53 -!- elliott has left ("FUCK YOU ALL"). 00:25:56 hi 00:25:58 hi 00:26:00 HI 00:26:02 Are monad tutorials like burritos? 00:26:05 rip elliott :( 00:26:18 meme 00:26:20 meme 00:26:21 MEME 00:26:22 And then, what will comonad tutorials be like, if there is any one? 00:26:35 rip monqy :( 00:26:46 ronqy 00:27:21 Play Pokemon Card, please. 00:27:29 zzo38: how :'( 00:27:30 Let's see if you won. 00:27:40 monqy: happy? 00:27:48 happy? 00:28:03 I attempted to actually explain the tutorial situation 00:28:13 Didn't really attempt to explain monads 00:28:16 They're irrelevent 00:28:27 irrelephant 00:28:30 hi irrelephant 00:29:04 shachaf: Each player seven cards, and then you can put face-down active and bench Basic Pokemon cards. And then after both players has done so, turn it face-up. Whoever's turn it is, draw a card (if you can't, you lose instantly). Play energy card and other card from your hand, and optionally attack. If your pokemon card is knocked out by damage, discard it, opponent picks up one side card. If you have no side card you win. If you have no card in play, you los 00:29:04 http://youtu.be/hhczJ0dHWC0 00:29:20 shachaf: OK, now you know how? 00:29:28 -!- elliott has joined. 00:29:30 o 00:29:30 oko 00:29:32 fuck 00:29:32 o 00:29:33 oko 00:29:35 okoko 00:29:37 okokoko 00:29:39 okokokoko 00:29:41 okokokokoko 00:29:43 okokokokokoko 00:29:45 okokokokokokokoko 00:29:47 fuck 00:29:49 o 00:29:51 oko 00:29:53 okoko 00:29:55 okokoko 00:29:57 okokokoko 00:29:59 okokokoko 00:30:01 fuck 00:30:01 A left out a few details. 00:30:03 o 00:30:05 oko 00:30:07 okoko 00:30:07 I’m tempted to break a combo. 00:30:09 okokoko 00:30:11 okokokoko 00:30:13 okokokokoko 00:30:15 okokokokokoko 00:30:17 zzo38: no!!! 00:30:34 -!- variable has joined. 00:30:38 if the ops in here won't kick for breaking an oko chain then there's no justice in the fuckin world 00:30:50 oklopol: look we need you 00:31:19 hi 00:31:27 ion: fuck you 00:31:51 fou 00:32:18 fion, felliott, fachaf 00:33:14 -!- Sgeo|web has quit (Quit: Page closed). 00:33:30 More details are: After setup the cards face-down at the beginning of the game, take six more cards from your draw pile and set them aside (face-down). Also, only one energy card can be played per turn (or zero), but other card any number of times. If it is evolution card, then you can play it on top of another card as long as it has not just been played. Trainer card usually do as it says and is discarded, but some are not discarded immediately. You can also 00:35:11 You can also$ 00:35:49 You can also 00:36:06 retreat before attack. To attack require energy, and if it says * then you can use any energy. 00:36:06 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 00:36:42 And there are also a few other rules such as weak/resist and confusion and so on. 00:37:48 Do you know what is the purpose of the Imakuni?'s card? He has that card in his deck and one day he is going to use it. 00:47:48 OK, now let's play Pokemon Card. 00:48:16 -!- pikhq has joined. 00:48:21 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 00:51:54 ok 00:57:58 @time 00:57:58 Local time for elliott is Fri Apr 20 01:58:30 00:58:34 Once I wrote something I made a joke that Professor Oak was drunk when he said "discard your hand and then draw seven cards" because you do not have a hand to hold the pencil. 00:58:53 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:01:13 ha ha ha 01:02:47 @time nickserv 01:03:34 @time ion 01:03:36 Local time for ion is Fri Apr 20 04:03:35 2012 01:03:36 tion 01:03:45 ion: Can you leave? You're too Finnish. 01:04:13 I have always been here. 01:04:43 `? finland 01:04:46 Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least five of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. 01:06:39 Help answer whether this is not known, the policy question of recursive definitions can not think. To define such a function in the form once I suggest considering whether it be rewritten in a recursive form. To rewrite the recursive form seems to require a helper function. 01:20:15 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 01:20:15 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 01:20:15 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 01:23:58 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 01:29:41 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:45:51 -!- augur has joined. 02:03:44 OK, the icon on http://esolangs.org/wiki/Glass should look good for everyone now :P 02:04:49 Someone should make a fork of it called Ass. 02:06:56 Apparently IE only supports data URIs since version 7. *sigh* 02:07:01 Erm, by 7 I mean 8. 02:13:40 olsner: Yo, Opera user 02:14:47 elliott, what's this about data URIs? Is the checkmark an image now or something? 02:15:21 elliott: Worse, it's limited to 32k in IE 8. 02:15:33 Sgeo: Yes. 02:15:46 pikhq: Good thing my file is 466 bytes (unencoded). 02:15:53 Was the checkmark looking horrible for anyone, or is the goal to make it look identical for everyone? 02:16:06 Sgeo: It was looking horrible for everyone on Windows, for one. 02:16:08 And RocketJSquirrel. 02:16:23 Ah 02:16:49 On Windows and for RocketJSquirrel the tick rendered as some ungodly aliased bitmap-looking thing. 02:16:57 Like it had been scaled to an uneven size. 02:17:11 o.O 02:17:57 cf. http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff508/Taneb/featuredarticleHUEG.png, http://ompldr.org/vZGZzcg 02:18:16 I can't look at the latter without laughing. 02:21:10 o.O 02:21:17 That's ridiculous 02:22:52 It tried its best. 02:27:55 It’s a herp-derpy version of the check mark. 02:28:21 I honestly didn't think it was supposed to be a check mark when I first saw it. 02:28:26 I couldn't for the life of me figure out what it was supposed to be. 02:28:34 it's the thought that countst 02:28:38 thank you, question mark 02:28:42 for the good thoughts 02:28:59 check mark, I mean 02:29:19 what's a question mark 02:29:33 it's almost as much a question mark as it is a check mark 02:29:40 multitalented 02:30:12 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 02:30:28 My Firefox displays a boring conformist check mark. http://i.imgur.com/vFLUV.png 02:30:44 mine does too, except it's chromium 02:30:52 It's an image now. 02:30:56 oh 02:31:09 what happened to the special question mark :( 02:31:27 it went to a better place 02:31:36 (heaven) 02:31:52 what do you guys think of the tick icon in general btw since maharba doesn't like it 02:31:59 as an icon for the featured language 02:32:15 it's not stupid enough for me to love or hate it 02:32:19 is it necessary for languages to be featured at all? 02:32:22 There are probably better options, but I can't think of one, and there's nothing wrong with it. 02:32:23 comfortable & boring 02:32:33 Use a swastika. 02:32:36 calamari: You're months late for that argument ;) 02:33:10 calamari: Multiple people wanted it. 02:33:22 It’s the symbol of peace. 02:34:22 or http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sieg-fail-pic.jpg 02:34:32 it's a bird 02:34:50 or a 02:34:52 slug with arms 02:34:53 giving up 02:35:16 http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/050/7/2/pinkie_holding_a_check_mark_by_felix_kot-d4qaadr.png 02:36:42 perfect 02:39:25 Agreed. 02:40:43 http://esolangs.org/no.html 02:40:58 a good web page 02:41:05 http://esolangs.org/yes.html 02:41:50 there is never a ye 02:41:50 s 02:42:14 yes :( 02:42:22 monqy: i made no better now 02:42:39 delightful 02:43:08 extra delightful 02:43:23 maybe if i refresh it again it will start getting bigger too 02:43:42 oh no where did it go 02:44:01 oh there it is 02:44:01 just wait 02:44:01 and 02:44:02 hello no 02:44:02 you wills ee 02:44:16 goodbye no 02:44:27 hello no 02:44:31 hellno 02:44:43 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:48:52 maruqq es are hard 02:49:45 " is often regarded as one of the "evil" tags, and that perception alone might be enough reason to not use it. However, used lightly and with taste (and understanding that it will never render everywhere), isn't such a bad tag. It can work well for announcements." 02:50:38 o.O 02:50:54 Also: monqy: Do I suck at Crawl? 02:51:04 yes 02:51:07 monqy: hi 02:51:09 I don't even have to look 02:51:21 monqy: I played Crawl yesterday. 02:51:26 did you enjoy it 02:51:39 ha 02:51:39 ha 02:51:40 ha 02:51:40 ha 02:51:40 h 02:51:41 a 02:51:42 ha 02:51:43 ha 02:51:45 ha 02:51:53 yeah 02:52:59 ha 02:53:02 ha!!!! 02:53:03 laghter 02:53:14 shachaf: well, did you enjoy it? 02:53:19 shachaf: how far did you get !! 02:53:30 to the end 02:53:33 leve 418 02:53:35 :0 02:53:39 hi level 418 02:53:44 :0 :0 02:53:48 Actually I died. 02:54:02 Which is another way of getting "to the end". 02:54:18 did you die of something stupid and unforseeable 02:54:35 What do you think? 02:54:39 Once I was killed by a death yak. 02:54:43 That wasn't stupid and forseeable. 02:55:44 monqy: why is hard to get rigchte 02:55:54 i don;t know :( 02:56:14 it's been so long since ive done web stufe 02:56:20 "i agvoid it" - me 02:56:24 (on web stufe) 02:56:38 "hi monqy" - me 02:56:43 (on monqy) 02:57:07 you';re doing a very bad job of giving up hi 02:57:19 That wasn't me saying hi! 02:57:24 It was me quoting me saying hi. 02:57:27 From before I gave up hi. 02:57:27 oh 02:57:29 oh 02:57:39 You should try it. 02:57:41 I take it you did not give up quoting yourself saying hi from before you gave up hi 02:57:50 No, why would I give that up? 02:58:10 monqy: Are *you* giving up quoting yourself saying hi from before you gave up hi? 02:58:25 yes, but I may not have given up quoting you 02:58:38 Try it! 02:58:47 That's the only way to be sure. 02:59:15 im not ready 02:59:17 i dont feel it 02:59:23 i will know when the time is right 02:59:41 do you agvoid saying hi 02:59:51 sometimes!!! 02:59:57 i agvoid hi stufe 03:00:03 i avoid saying it excessively, but i'll still say hi in certain cases 03:00:09 why is http://esolangs.org/no.html buggy :( 03:00:16 art 03:00:26 whoa look at that no go 03:00:42 whats the bug :'( 03:00:43 hellno, goodbyno 03:00:48 -!- augur has joined. 03:01:04 the bug is that 03:01:10 when the yellow marquee moves all the way to the right 03:01:12 it just appears completely again 03:01:15 rather than scrolling in from the left 03:01:17 which is weird 03:03:49 monqy: ok i made it 03:03:49 even better 03:04:03 whoa 03:07:03 monqy: http://esolangs.org/no.html 03:07:23 very good 03:07:32 http://esolangs.org/hi.html 03:07:46 I love how only one of the marquee tags is actually ended. 03:08:12 monqy: http://esolangs.org/no.html 03:08:34 It wouldn’t be any more valid if that was changed. 03:08:45 that's one wild no 03:08:48 olsner: gah, now i want to script it like yours 03:09:08 monqy: ok i made it 03:09:09 even better 03:09:33 does no ever stop from getting better? 03:10:01 no 03:10:31 It would be even better if it was named http://esolangs.org/no 03:12:35 needs a tag 03:13:50 ion: You just leaked the URL of my WIP no v2 :( 03:14:57 Hmm. 03:15:02 > 03:15:07 Why would this spit out "yellow" for n=9? 03:15:17 Wait, duh. 03:15:21 register_globals isn't a thing. :p 03:16:32 bright green & magenta is always a great color combo also ;) 03:16:51 random coloures!! 03:16:52 olsner: i ripped off ur art as a first start, sry: http://esolangs.org/no 03:17:15 ok now for tweaks 03:19:33 monqy: http://esolangs.org/no 03:19:58 is that no?n=100 03:20:04 it's even better 03:20:05 than that 03:20:06 i tried that one time but it was just to much 03:20:11 i made it perfect 03:20:12 so i toned it down to 25 03:20:18 shhh it's 03:20:20 not too much any more 03:20:21 it's art 03:20:29 bck to the new no 03:20:32 ah yes good perfect 03:20:44 elliott: The marquees are quite small on Firefox. Perhaps use CSS or something to make them 100%-sized. 03:21:24 ion: hmm, small howso 03:21:28 but yes, ok 03:21:41 btw uh 03:21:43 it's on n=1000 right now 03:21:45 so reload at your own risk 03:21:51 Judging from the 100%s everywhere in the HTML i assumed you wanted it to fill the window. 03:21:57 oh my holy 03:22:02 monqy: try http://esolangs.org/no now 03:22:20 hah 03:22:24 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 03:22:41 it's slowly killoing itself 03:23:16 if you press stop 03:23:18 it gets even more fun 03:23:36 Chromium’s memory use goes up at about 10 MB/s. 03:23:52 Now it’s stuck. 03:24:00 after reaching a gigabyte. 03:24:04 great marquee efficiency 03:24:12 http://esolangs.org/no deadliest yet 03:25:35 how do you do elseif in php 03:26:49 according to http://php.net/manual/en/control-structures.elseif.php it's either elseif or else if 03:27:01 but only elseif if you're using colons??? 03:27:37 PHP manages to make even that weird? 03:27:46 freaking elseif 03:28:07 ok http://esolangs.org/no is hurting mybrowser 03:28:36 ok i just got a horrible idea 03:28:41 what if i used css3 rotations on the iframes 03:29:36 That sounds awesome. 03:29:38 http://unimaps.com/flags-europe/sweden-flag.gif 03:30:07 monqy: http://esolangs.org/no 03:30:13 sweet jesus it's beautiful 03:30:23 monqy: In the discussion, someone benchmarks “elseif” vs. “else if”. The former is faster. 03:30:39 i think this one might actually be art 03:30:47 wow 03:30:56 it even has a moire pattern 03:30:58 and wow 03:30:59 wow to both 03:31:23 elliott: nice 03:31:25 and it's scrollable 03:31:31 http://esolangs.org/no i made it better 03:31:48 i like how mine was white but then it started becoming blue and yellow 03:31:51 Perhaps get rid of the scroll bar. 03:31:56 ion: !!! 03:31:59 are you sure about that 03:32:07 oh my god it *is* scrollable 03:32:08 the scroll bars are art 03:32:16 Of course it is. 03:32:17 ion: try scrolling it with your mouse wheel 03:32:18 it's 03:32:19 amazing 03:32:38 hehe 03:32:45 ion: ok i removed the scrollbars to test 03:32:51 pretty sure it's NOT AS GOOD 03:33:02 also it fills up much more slowly 03:33:18 on the plus side, ow my eyes 03:33:56 http://esolangs.org/no 03:34:28 Perhaps add a bit of padding to make it fill up faster. 03:35:19 i love how it ends up just flashing ominously 03:36:12 ok so 03:36:12 gues 03:36:13 guys 03:36:17 i can animate this to rotate as it goes 03:36:18 y/n 03:36:33 yessssss 03:36:39 at least try it 03:38:07 http://esolangs.org/no holy fucking shit 03:38:56 it isnt doing anything for me :( 03:39:05 monqy: chrome? 03:39:14 i uh, think it was a failed experiment anywa 03:39:15 y 03:39:26 chromium 18.0.1025.162 03:39:42 (Developer Build 0 Linux) 03:39:46 whatever that means 03:39:59 leaving for a bit "bye" 03:45:53 ion: http://esolangs.org/no. Let it load all the way, with your mouse out of the window. 03:45:54 Then move it in. 03:46:41 Well done, sir. 03:47:00 * elliott wants to animate that transition. 03:47:21 CSS3 has that, too. 03:47:35 Indeed. 03:47:38 Someone in another channel did http://demoseen.com/windowpane/fl0wer.png.html today. 03:47:48 elliott can't see it because of a lack of WebGL. 03:48:01 But other people can telliott how he's missing out. 03:50:03 Nice, shachaf. Nachaf. 03:50:11 ion: Try now. 03:50:37 shachaf, nice. scheiß. 03:51:41 ion: :'( 03:51:43 elliott: Too bad it’s not smooth enough on my computer. 03:51:50 Nice otherwise. 03:52:09 But the WebGL thing is smooth on your computer, right? 03:52:22 In other words, elliott is missing out by not having WebGL? 03:53:19 It’s quite smooth. 03:54:51 ion: Perhaps this will be smooth? http://esolangs.org/no 03:56:39 elliott: If a small subset of the iframes is in transition simultaneously it’s smooth. If i move the mouse out of the window quickly the framerate drops very much. 03:57:15 Yeah, same here. :( 03:58:54 Hmm, I'm unable to produce the first iframe-scrollbar one. :( 03:59:00 ion: I don't suppose you have that one still open in a tab? 03:59:17 Nope 03:59:26 git log :-P 03:59:57 ion: Please. 03:59:59 Artists don't use version control. 04:00:05 I'm editing the file directly on the server. 04:00:07 With vim. 04:00:13 Not ed? :-( 04:00:19 It’s the standard editor. 04:00:50 I'm an artist. I don't need your "standards". 04:07:43 -!- zzo38 has joined. 04:09:39 OK 04:09:41 OK 04:09:43 OK 04:09:43 OK 04:10:30 no 04:14:21 -!- asiekierka has joined. 04:15:29 ion: http://esolangs.org/no 04:15:54 No 04:17:20 ion: I think that's the best one yet. 04:20:41 elliott: How about @-webkit-keyframes rot { from { -webkit-transform: rotate(36deg); } to { -webkit-transform: rotate(396deg); } } iframe { -webkit-animation: rot 10s infinite; } 04:21:19 396? Okay. 04:21:26 Done. 04:21:27 360+36 04:21:44 what the fuck 04:22:10 Perhaps change that 10s to like 120s 04:22:29 Done. 04:22:54 And add -webkit-animation-timing-function: linear; 04:24:37 Done. 04:24:49 The jitter is annoying. 04:25:51 Yeah. And it’s slllllooooow 04:25:59 I mean, the frame rate is very low. 04:26:49 How about just, like, 15 iframes? 04:27:37 Okay. 04:27:38 I think one can drop all the -webkit- prefixes from the CSS and it will work in all modern browsers. 04:27:53 But some of the jitter is due to marquee timing, FWIW. 04:27:58 Dropped to 15. 04:28:14 http://css3.bradshawenterprises.com/animations/ lists some browser versions for the CSS stuff without vendor prefixes. 04:28:27 15 looks pretty boring./ 04:28:50 How about getting rid of marquee and using CSS animations for that, too? 04:28:59 Okay. You get to write the CSS for that, though. :p 04:29:13 BTW, I think the linear timing function made the animation worse. 04:29:37 ion: There's a CSS3 marquee module, IIRc. 04:29:39 *IIRC 04:29:41 Dunno if anything supports it. 04:38:17 hard problem: find two binary strings of 2n bits such that for all bitwise rotations of one, they differ in exactly n bits, AND neither string has rotational symmetry (aka a full rotation is required before original string is recovered) 04:38:54 quintopia: Have you seen our BEAUTIFUL FEATURED LANGUAGE ICON? 04:39:47 no 04:39:50 it does not exist 04:39:55 have you solved hard problem? 04:42:19 Yes. 04:42:32 answer is? 04:42:41 No. 04:42:58 proof is? 04:43:22 Yes. 04:48:18 elliott: I wonder if this works? https://gist.github.com/2426076 04:48:22 data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABUAAAAVCAMAAACeyVWkAAAAzFBMVEUAgAAAgAcAgA8BgAECgQIDgQMEggQHgAAHgwcHhycHizcPgAAPgwAPi0cQiBARiBEWixYXgwAXixcXl1cfiy8fn3cvq48vq58xmDEymTI1mjU3iwc/iwc/nz9AoEBBoEFCoUJDoUNHt5dXy8dnmx9/v3+AwICBwIGCwYKDwYOHoyeH4+eQyJCRyJGntz+n6++v16+v6++v7++w2LCx2LG3u0fH49/Pz1/Q6NDX23fX+/ff34ff34/f9/fv87fv///387///+f//+////+7G1+ZAAAAwUlEQVQYGV3BiUKCQABF0WubrWA7aGVk2tBeWE1WWr7//6eGiSH1HOQNB+cx8dmgkIccmxKkVg6SzAozriQhGebdSciu 04:48:22 scAKtak1Lr5egFQU/DuafO7iFOTU9kfjDqWcjGDj4ecSL6NFpdHTPX9i1qkcTt63CFo4m08fB8/fJ1QiMpyd0fR1ek2QkeMs3UhvTYKcgtKxxh1qBWpT2tumlgjZVRZYIRnmGQlJZpkZt5KQYxOCxMpB3rDfjYhO+4/yfgFjmiGoaKjJJAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== 04:48:28 elliott: Whoops. A moment. 04:48:36 no looks pretty cool on my phone with the fractal thing going 04:48:46 elliott: Update4d. 04:48:54 Hmm, where does 70% come from? 04:49:06 calamari: You loaded no on your phone and you still have a phone? 04:49:06 Just a random value for testing. 04:49:21 Added a missing semicolon. 04:49:31 elliott: sure, why not? 04:49:40 Semicolons are optional in css. 04:49:42 Terminating, that is. 04:49:55 elliott: Removed a */ that shouldn’t have been there. 04:49:59 calamari: Well, it kind of uses a lot of CPU and RAM. 04:50:01 hi semicolon 04:50:10 ion: http://esolangs.org/no 04:50:12 I think I can see my battery meter decreasing in real time tho (kidding) 04:50:26 Why do people play "music" in public places? 04:50:36 ion: Seems to mar but not rot. 04:50:41 (It's not really music because it has drums in the background.) 04:50:54 elliott: Alright, makes sense: both try to use the transform property. Let’s see. 04:51:13 lets see what the htc dream makes of it 04:51:39 calamari: It's been changed. 04:51:47 Come back later ;) 04:52:27 elliott: Oh, also remove the marquee element. :-) 04:52:30 ion: Oh, dur. 04:52:39 Dunroamin. 04:52:51 Now it doesn't work at all. :( 04:53:11 Alright, let’s investigate. 04:53:57 How about if you change the 70% to e.g. 500px and -70% to -500px? 04:54:26 Done 04:54:53 ion: Are you sure this prefixless stuff works yet? 04:55:09 It doesn't. 04:55:12 "Unknown property name" --inspector 04:55:17 I think you broke it.. 04:55:18 That seems like the culprit. 04:55:27 anyone have a copy of the old one? 04:55:33 calamari: calamari: It's been changed. 04:55:33 Come back later ;) 04:55:40 We're busy reconstructing a less broken version of the old one :P 04:55:46 A copy would be difficult, since it requires 100 HTML pages. 04:55:59 ________ 04:56:02 .##@@&&&@@##. 04:56:05 ,##@&::%&&%%::&@##. 04:56:08 #@&:%%000000000%%:&@# RAINBOWS ARE GOD'S WAY OF LICKING DICK 04:56:11 #@&:%00' '00%:&@# 04:56:14 #@&:%0' '0%:&@# 04:56:14 fizzie: Ping. 04:56:17 elliott: Perhaps now https://gist.github.com/2426076 04:56:18 #@&:%0 0%:&@# 04:56:21 #@&:%0 0%:&@# 04:56:21 employee of the month 04:56:24 #@&:%0 0%:&@# 04:56:27 "" ' " " ' "" 04:56:31 _oOoOoOo_ .-.-. 04:56:34 (oOoOoOoOo) ( : ) 04:56:37 )`"""""`( .-.`. .'.-. 04:56:41 / \ (_ '.Y.' _) 04:56:44 | | ( .'|'. ) 04:56:47 \ / '-' | '-' 04:56:50 jgs `=========` 04:57:11 http://www.asciiartfarts.com/20120418.html?via=rss 04:57:21 kmc: Are you in Los Angeles now? 04:57:53 the rainbow stripes aren't supposed to be vertical ;) 04:58:29 ion: Okay, -webkatted. 04:59:26 ion: The scrollbar is a bit annoying. But I guess that can be fixed. 04:59:32 ion: BTW, "alternate" isn't right for the marquee. 04:59:36 Who is winning? http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/img_14/pokemoncard1.png 04:59:40 Marquees scroll off the edge of the screen and return on the other side, not bounce. 04:59:51 zzo38: Can I win. :-( 05:00:18 shachaf: Not unless you play. 05:00:20 That can be done. I just thought this would be pretty. :-P 05:00:34 Especially since there’s always content on the screen this way. 05:00:49 htc dream's analysis of the page: no 05:00:51 Also, the marquee element has behavior=alternate. 05:01:14 oh there it goes with the new version 05:01:17 shachaf: ish. Pasadena. 05:01:20 ion: Did it? 05:01:22 I don't think it did. 05:01:35 looks like they hadn't implemented rotation yet 05:01:37 or as i like to call it, "sea panda" 05:01:38 http://www.mountaindragon.com/html/marquee.htm 05:01:56 (android 1.6) 05:02:29 coppro: Maybe you know who wins? 05:02:54 ion: Any ideas about how to get the rotation? 05:03:17 elliott: How about this, with
? https://gist.github.com/2426076 05:03:37 Closing tags? We don't need closing tags. 05:03:55 Feel free to do whatever you want. :-P 05:04:29 Try now. 05:04:33 *Trey 05:04:37 Oh, the div isn't big enough. 05:04:44 ah 05:04:47 Fixed. 05:04:56 -!- zzo38 has quit (Quit: P.OFF (short for Post Office, in case you don't know)). 05:05:08 Yeah, the alternate marquee is kinda boring, since it just cycles. 05:05:17 Hmm, or not 05:05:18 -!- asiekierka has quit (Quit: Wychodzi). 05:05:49 Try switching the -webkit-animation attributes between the div and the iframe. 05:05:50 Kinda breaks down in an ugly way after a while 05:06:02 Done 05:06:14 Ow. 05:06:15 herp 05:06:26 Undone :P 05:07:02 hmm I must not understand top.. it seems to be claiming that the browser is using 114.3% of memory 05:07:15 To get typical marquee behavior, use -webkit-animation: mar 8s linear infinite; (or some amount of seconds), and change the percentages to 100% and -100% i think. 05:08:04 Uh. 05:08:07 My browser crashed. 05:08:25 If every iframe had slightly different animation durations, that might result in an interesting effect. 05:08:45 I like how this seems to be more intensive than the marquee version. 05:09:15 Perhaps use a linear function of the “n” parameter. 05:09:23 8 seconds plus n/20 05:09:28 ion: Fixed a stupid bug, refresh 05:11:20 This one is great. :D 05:11:21 calamari: Try it now. 05:11:25 On phone. 05:11:30 ok 05:11:38 -!- oerjan has joined. 05:12:22 starts off promising, then it's just a polygon rotating 05:12:25 calamari: nope 05:12:27 give it time 05:14:25 it's basically a square speech bubble still 05:14:34 -!- asiekierka has joined. 05:14:34 -!- asiekierka has quit (Client Quit). 05:15:04 elliott: That could be implemented as a single HTML page, too. :-P 05:15:12 how many htm pages did that one take? 05:15:39 i have to select it to see anything happeneing otherwise it's all black :( 05:16:03 ion: I know. :( 05:16:05 calamari: 100 05:16:09 am i doing something wrong :( 05:16:10 monqy: yes im fiddling with it 05:16:13 apolgies 05:16:30 ill put it back 05:16:30 4 u 05:16:56 OTOH, the 100-page iframe hack has some insane-kluge value. 05:18:39 monqy: i put it back 05:18:40 4 u 05:18:56 now its all white :( 05:19:02 monqy: give it 05:19:02 tyme 05:19:17 ion: I like how this went from "fun hacks with 90s HTML" to "fun hacks with advanced CSS3 and also using an iframe for no reason". 05:19:29 it stopped loading and still i have to select it to see it :( 05:19:34 monqy: try loading new tab??? 05:19:35 elliott: A per-page varying marquee animation time, pleeze! :-) 05:19:40 you might need ctrl+f5 or so 05:19:44 ion: once monqy sees this one !!! 05:19:47 monqy: can i load new tbabB!?????!! 05:19:52 s/monqy/elliott/ 05:19:54 -!- myndzi\ has joined. 05:20:09 shachaf: http://esolangs.org/no 05:20:20 ion: I also like how there's a "no" at the bottom of those 100 pages. 05:20:23 That nobody will ever see. 05:20:25 dbelange: i see you have been spamming in the logs. please do not do that. 05:20:35 What? 05:20:42 elliott told me you were supposed to spam in here. 05:20:47 it ddoesnt work :( 05:20:49 hi oerjan, ørjan 05:20:53 hi shachaf 05:21:01 ørjæn 05:21:08 oerjan: no!! don't respond to shachaf's his!! it is a slippery slope 05:21:09 ask monqy 05:21:10 Œrjan 05:21:12 a slippery slope to despair 05:21:19 it is!! 05:21:19 monqy: ugh 05:21:21 hi monqy, oerjan 05:21:21 can you view source 05:21:23 on the page you have loaded 05:21:24 and sprunge that 05:22:17 http://sprunge.us/eXHU 05:23:14 -!- myndzi has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 05:23:35 monqy: what chrome version? 05:23:43 oerjan: btw, do not click that /no link under any circumstance 05:24:07 s 05:24:17 about chromium says its Chromium 18.0.1025.162 (Developer Build 0 Linux) 05:24:30 me too 05:24:31 ummm 05:24:36 i'm really not sure what is up >:? 05:24:38 do you have weird settings 05:24:41 like default background etc 05:24:48 what /no link 05:24:55 monqy: can you go to /no?n=99 and tell me what the body background is set to in the css 05:24:58 oerjan: http://esolangs.org/no 05:25:04 i have default background i think ?? its white background--ok 05:25:12 oh one thing to notice is 05:25:22 elliott: okay 05:25:27 when initally loading /no i see a flash of black square but then it dies 05:25:45 monqy: Did you see the fl0wer? 05:25:54 n?=99 makes it black and i see a flash of white square 05:26:03 monqy: does it flash multiple times? 05:26:07 no just once 05:26:17 can you try quitting and reopening browser??? im confuse 05:26:34 it didnt help :[ 05:26:43 confuse = school???????? 05:26:47 ok uh 05:26:53 ?n=2 fails but ?n=1 works 05:26:53 Unknown command, try @list 05:27:06 but then theres only one thing 05:27:07 ?hi 05:27:07 so 05:27:19 ?n=0 works too of course but 05:27:19 Unknown command, try @list 05:27:40 ion: Oh, hm, http://esolangs.org/no?n=1 is confusing. 05:27:43 The box looks smaller than it should be. 05:27:51 for me the box looks really big ?? 05:28:03 monqy: the box is white 05:28:04 if that helps 05:28:06 elliott: CSS is such a pretty thing. http://hpaste.org/raw/67314 05:28:06 yes 05:28:10 i can see the spinny white box 05:28:20 ion: wh 05:28:23 it's about as big as my browser window 05:28:39 monqy: yes but look at the proportions of it 05:28:50 i cant it's moving too fast 05:28:50 Oh, hmm. 05:28:51 Right. 05:28:52 and spinning a bit 05:28:59 monqy: It shouldn't be *that* fast. 05:29:06 and there's a small "no" in one of the corners 05:29:07 ion: Am I supposed to do something with that diff: 05:29:08 *? 05:29:13 i'm bad at proportions :( 05:29:17 Oh, it's other-browser compatibility. 05:29:20 Who cares about other-browser? 05:29:27 im bad at pronouns :"( 05:29:28 HLEP 05:30:05 usually i can't see the other corner because it's cut off 05:30:07 Why is elliott linking to a white rectanngle thigy 05:30:16 Sgeo: http://esolangs.org/no 05:30:20 click that in recent chrome 05:30:21 and u will c 05:30:25 (give it time) 05:30:25 sg "late to the party" eo 05:30:46 hi Sgeo 05:30:49 welcome to the party 05:30:51 good party 05:31:43 oerjan: (the reason I tell you not to click it is that it will probably crash your browser.) 05:33:15 elliott: i had a hunch :P 05:33:21 ion: Hmm. Changing the rotation to 1s seems to have done nothing: http://esolangs.org/no 05:33:27 Does that mean the rotation animation isn't actually working? 05:33:48 the rotation seems just fine but nesting kills it 05:33:53 ??? 05:33:58 elliott: … huh. It *is* rotating, though. 05:34:16 ion: ...for some reason it still shows as 120s in my inspector. 05:34:20 * elliott hard-refreshes 05:34:36 elliott: Oh! You have nested CSS comments which don’t actually work. The first */ will end the comment. 05:34:38 Ohhh. 05:34:40 ion: Yes. 05:34:42 Just realised that. 05:34:43 :D 05:34:59 hi css 05:35:06 hi 05:35:19 every time someone says hi i feel a pang of guilt 05:35:21 I’m out of glue to sniff. Do you have any? 05:35:26 YESSS 05:35:27 FULL POWER SPEED 05:35:35 hah 05:35:41 IT’S OVER NINE THOUSAND 05:35:42 monqy: remember that time I told the dcss channel about monads 05:35:47 monqy: and you said hi 05:35:50 good time :( 05:35:52 shachaf: sgeo started it 05:35:59 shachaf: he gets the credit 05:36:10 monqy: I don't need to get credit. 05:36:13 I didn't say much about monads 05:36:14 monqy: I just want to get a hi. :-( 05:36:16 quite fast on the phone also 05:36:17 Just monad tutorials 05:36:18 elliott: its speedy for me on n=1 but n=2 and greaters all broken still :( 05:36:30 monqy: What size is your Chrome window? 05:36:35 uhh 05:36:45 how do i count :( 05:36:50 fingers 05:36:51 elliott: The audience demands a varying marquee speed. (8 + n/20)s might be a good start. 05:36:54 monqy: Just say "full screen" 05:36:59 but it isn't 05:37:03 So say "half screen" 05:37:03 it's tiled 05:37:07 it's not half!!! 05:37:09 Why do I find Haskell easier to think in than CL? 05:37:09 "quarter screen" 05:37:10 I miss that recursive one .. ah well :) 05:37:19 ion: Dunroamin. 05:37:32 Then again, Haskell had a built-in function for what I wanted to do 05:37:36 calamari: If you mean the scrollbar one, I can recreate it later. 05:37:45 unsafeCoerce# is such a good function 05:37:48 hi unsafeCoerce# 05:38:06 well on my phone (since firefox is too lame on my desktop), it was basically making a spiral of triangles 05:38:13 elliott: ok uh i think the page portion is 989x949 05:38:15 ion: It becomes a messy circle too quickly. 05:38:31 (Reverted for a second.) 05:38:33 monqy: Try it full-screened. 05:38:39 fractal spiral of triangles 05:38:47 how many moqnys does it take to change a lightblub 05:38:50 and the spiral was rotating 05:39:02 elliott: n/100? 05:39:15 so it might have looked different for a real browser 05:39:26 elliott: all that changed is the spinny square is more rectangley now. it still doesn't work on n>1 05:39:42 oerjan: 05:39:44 oh and being big makes it jerkier 05:39:44 ________ 05:39:47 .##@@&&&@@##. 05:39:51 ,##@&::%&&%%::&@##. 05:39:51 oerjan: 05:39:54 #@&:%%000000000%%:&@# RAINBOWS ARE GOD'S WAY OF LICKING DICK 05:39:57 #@&:%00' '00%:&@# 05:40:00 #@&:%0' '0%:&@# 05:40:00 dbelange: hi 05:40:00 monqy: TWSS 05:40:03 oerjan: 05:40:03 #@&:%0 0%:&@# 05:40:06 #@&:%0 0%:&@# 05:40:07 ion: what 05:40:09 #@&:%0 0%:&@# 05:40:11 ørjan 05:40:12 : 05:40:12 "" ' " " ' "" 05:40:15 hi oerjan 05:40:15 œrjan 05:40:15 _oOoOoOo_ .-.-. 05:40:19 (oOoOoOoOo) ( : ) 05:40:22 )`"""""`( .-.`. .'.-. 05:40:25 / \ (_ '.Y.' _) 05:40:28 | | ( .'|'. ) 05:40:32 \ / '-' | '-' 05:40:32 hi 05:40:35 jgs `=========` 05:40:53 oerjan: hi oerjan 05:41:02 hœrjan 05:41:03 shachaf: Shut the fuck up with the "hi X" already. 05:41:04 helloerjan 05:41:13 elliott: hi X 05:41:14 oerjan: how predictable ! 05:41:27 -!- zzo38 has joined. 05:41:32 zzo38: hi X 05:41:40 ion: What X is that? 05:42:07 zzo38: Are you coming to BayHac? 05:42:13 monqy: Are you coming to BayHac? It's this weekend! 05:42:18 what's bayhac 05:42:23 what's this weekend 05:42:27 shachaf: I don't think so. What and where is BayHac? 05:42:34 monqy: He simply mistyped “GayHac”. 05:42:36 zzo38: Bay Area Haskell Hackathon. Bay Area. 05:42:37 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o oerjan. 05:42:40 what's gayhac? 05:42:42 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: +b *!*dbelange@*.csclub.uwaterloo.ca. 05:42:42 -!- oerjan has kicked dbelange dbelange. 05:42:55 oerjan: Kick me while you're at it! 05:42:56 oerjan: Can you give a proper reason instead? 05:42:57 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -o oerjan. 05:43:09 zzo38: dbelange was spamming. 05:43:13 zzo38: bah i can but i always forget 05:43:20 oerjan: i would suggest dbelange*!*@* 05:43:28 zzo38: he spammed, and after i gave him a warning even 05:43:31 oerjan: i would suggest *!*@* 05:43:35 oerjan: he specifically pinged you before spamming it again. 05:43:46 i suggest that ban be of the indefinite sort. 05:43:50 elliott: heh 05:43:51 Remember the thing where "*.*" finds files that don't have a "." in them? 05:43:54 oerjan: But still, you should specify the reason in the KICK message otherwise it can be unclear 05:44:10 shachaf: That is in DOS. In DOS, all filenames have "." in them. 05:44:18 zzo38: But in Windows too. 05:44:22 zzo38: i know, i just never remember to do so 05:44:34 shachaf: Remember the thing where a file your browser happened to download simply being named “something.exe” makes it executable? 05:44:40 Good old times. 05:44:49 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o oerjan. 05:44:50 ion: What's wrong with that? 05:44:56 +x is a pointless part of UNIX permissions. 05:44:56 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: +b dbelange*!*@*. 05:45:04 /kick shachaf 05:45:06 oerjan: Do it! 05:45:20 i like how chromium warns me when i download .exe files 05:45:22 oerjan: you left the old ban there, btw 05:45:24 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -b *!*dbelange@*.csclub.uwaterloo.ca. 05:45:25 shachaf: I think +x is not pointless, it is useful thing 05:45:26 ah 05:45:36 was just copying it 05:45:36 Now the completely unrelated dbelangeSmith is banned, too. 05:45:38 oerjan: You should kick shachaf so he shuts up about it. :( 05:45:45 oerjan: Kick me! 05:45:47 -!- oerjan has kicked shachaf shachaf. 05:45:57 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -o oerjan. 05:45:58 Now kick... aww. 05:46:13 We were only, like, 50 kicks away from a perfect channel. 05:47:09 Please look at the Pokemon Card see if you win 05:47:48 oerjan: I'm disappointed he didn't even paste a different flood the second time. 05:47:51 Really weak. 05:48:10 monqy: Did you try /no full screen? 05:48:19 @time 05:48:19 Local time for elliott is Fri Apr 20 06:48:51 05:48:21 how do i full screen 05:48:41 Move it to an unused workspace/ 05:48:42 *? 05:48:43 monqy: It depend the client program you use to view it 05:48:45 I just mean filling your screen. 05:48:47 elliott: yeah i did that 05:49:07 I think in Firefox it is F11 05:49:16 22:39:26 < monqy> elliott: all that changed is the spinny square is more rectangley now. it still doesn't work on n>1 05:49:24 probably got lost since it was right before the flood 05:49:33 bah 05:49:37 i have no idea what could be wrong 05:49:39 monqy: Screenshot? 05:49:49 of what 05:49:59 Sgeo: Oi. 05:50:05 Sgeo: Does /no work in technicolour for you? 05:50:11 We need more Chrome users, man. 05:50:12 n=1 is just boring old spinny rectangle how it should be, and n=2 is just white, and n=3 is just black etc 05:50:24 Hold on 05:50:56 elliott, does black and white count as technicolor? 05:52:24 Sgeo: Yes. 05:52:37 ion: Help, what's wrong with http://esolangs.org/no. 05:52:39 It's terrifying. 05:52:42 I don't think it does what it's supposed to 05:52:44 elliott: so you think there should be about 9 people left? 05:52:53 elliott: :-D 05:52:54 It's not squares in squares merely rotating 05:53:03 oerjan: Something like that, yes. 05:53:06 Sgeo: It's not meant to be. 05:53:17 ion: Apparently every number is even. 05:53:48 ion: Okay, I fixed that part. 05:53:52 ion: Now why doesn't it look the same? :( 05:54:00 hmm 05:54:07 oooh it's doing something 05:54:11 on n=100 05:54:15 monqy: Yes, I changed it lots. 05:54:19 but it's kind of crazy 05:54:20 It doesn't use iframes now but it's broken 05:54:33 Ha, I saw the "no". 05:54:43 This would be good were it smoother. 05:55:04 it looks pretty smooth to me, but maybe I have high tolerance 05:55:23 monqy: Huh? It's ridiculously skippy here. 05:55:36 definitely not ridiculously skippy here 05:55:49 monqy: I want a video. :( 05:56:44 hey that's pretty cool now 05:57:34 seems to suddenly jump tho, maybe an android bug? 05:57:50 monqy: Huh? It's ridiculously skippy here. 05:58:00 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 05:58:05 or maybe just an optical illusion from it being larger than my screen 05:58:47 maybe I'm seeing something different from you guys whihc happens to not be skippy?? i dunno. or maybe my graphics processing is really great but I doubt that 05:58:47 elliott: A start: div { width: 500px; height: 500px; overflow: hidden; } 06:00:21 ion: Eh? 06:00:39 elliott: That makes it behave a bit better. 06:00:44 ion: "Best viewed on 800x600 screens" 06:00:52 ion: Ah, done. 06:00:57 Now why doesn't it work with 100%? 06:01:10 wow the new version is ridiculously skippy 06:01:12 what did you do D: 06:01:25 and the new version isn't anything like the old version visually 06:02:00 elliott: A start: div { width: 500px; height: 500px; overflow: hidden; } 06:02:00 ion: Eh? 06:02:00 elliott: That makes it behave a bit better. 06:02:00 ion: "Best viewed on 800x600 screens" 06:02:00 ion: Ah, done. 06:02:00 Now why doesn't it work with 100%? 06:02:04 monqy: We're working on it. 06:03:07 elliott: div{width:100%;height:100%;overflow:hidden;position:absolute} 06:03:56 ion: Okay. Why does that look totally different to the iframe version? :( 06:03:57 The load lag? 06:04:04 Also it's really laggy. 06:04:07 Perhaps. 06:04:18 Yeah. I’m not sure what to do about that. 06:04:27 Meh, restored the iframe version. 06:04:31 it's really laggy and sometimes it vanishes 06:04:52 (w/r/t the one right before restore) 06:05:55 ion: http://esolangs.org/no 06:06:37 beautiful, but it's still vanished on n>1 :( 06:07:18 monqy: How big is your screen? 06:07:40 i think the viewable page portion is 989x949 06:08:05 making it smaller or bigger doesn't help 06:08:16 elliott: whee 06:08:47 monqy: I mean, how big is your screen? 06:08:52 oh 06:09:03 1680x1050 06:09:33 Well... shrug. 06:09:36 I have no idea. 06:09:49 Which is the channel to play Pokemon Card at? 06:09:53 monqy: Which browser version do you have? 06:10:06 about chromium says its Chromium 18.0.1025.162 (Developer Build 0 Linux) 06:10:43 elliott: One could add color transitions! 06:11:02 elliott: A tunnel effect, anyone? 06:11:10 ion: TOO LATE ALREADY ADVERTISED IT IN -BLAH 06:11:14 But OK, sure. 06:11:27 elliott: Add the same color cycle to every page, but use an n-based offset. 06:12:43 elliott: One can add an initial delay between the timing function and the iteration count in “animation:” 06:12:51 The default being 0s 06:13:05 Are you suggesting I do that to the non-iframe version? 06:13:15 No, the iframe version. 06:13:16 Man, I totally promoted this in -blah at the WRONG TIME. 06:13:26 ion: OK, will give it a go in a minute. 06:14:14 @time 06:14:14 Local time for elliott is Fri Apr 20 07:14:46 06:14:17 And then maybe sleep. :( 06:15:00 @time 06:15:02 Local time for ion is Fri Apr 20 09:15:01 2012 06:15:11 Maybe continue watching mitx-6.002 lectures. 06:15:42 After time well spent on an important iframe and css project 06:16:02 ion: 5s delay added to http://esolangs.org/no 06:16:13 Doesn't do much. 06:16:37 oh hey it's 06:16:41 showing up a bit 06:16:43 then flickering 06:16:45 then disappearing 06:16:47 then showing up more 06:16:49 flickering 06:16:51 disappearing 06:17:01 ion: OK, so colour transition code. 06:17:52 elliott: I meant, add a new animation for the body background color. Create an infinite color cycle (using whatever colors you want). Use body { -webkit-animation: color-cycle 10s linear Xs infinite; } where X is e.g. n/20. 06:18:00 Ah. 06:18:05 What are the best colours? 06:18:11 all of them 06:18:55 How’s this for starters: @-webkit-keyframes color-cycle { 0% { background: #000; } 50% { background: #fff; } 100% { background: #000; } } 06:19:43 Done 06:20:06 Ow, my CPU. 06:20:10 so far it's working but i can only see one square fading in and out 06:21:06 ion: I think this might be... a failed experiment. 06:22:40 elliott: Ok, now perhaps change the “10s” to “5s” and use, say, @-webkit-keyframes color-cycle { 0% { background: #000; } 10% { background: #00f; } 20% { background: #0ff; } 30% { background: #0f0; } 40% { background: #ff0; } 50% { background: #f00; } 60% { background: #f0f; } 70% { background: #fff; } 80% { background: #00f }; 90% { background: #f00; } 100% { background: #000; } } 06:22:52 I like how you said that right after I removed it. 06:22:52 Sec. 06:23:01 elliott: I think it will look like a moving tunnel if we tweak the time values. 06:24:00 Done 06:24:31 It's... not doing much. 06:25:17 ion: hjalp 06:25:23 Now all i see is a white page. 06:25:26 Me too. 06:25:37 me three 06:25:48 ?n=1 is good though 06:25:49 Unknown command, try @list 06:25:49 me six 06:25:53 a "no" zips by quickly 06:26:09 ?n=1 is beautiful 06:26:09 Unknown command, try @list 06:26:15 Perhaps the keyframes thing needs to be defined before -webkit-animation refers to it. 06:27:07 No. 06:27:09 The old one was like that too. 06:27:21 Are you sure you have no syntax errors? 06:27:49 Ah, there seems to be a misplaced ; just before “90%”. 06:29:02 Removed, but I think that's valid. 06:29:05 Oh. 06:29:30 This is, um. 06:29:46 Colourful. 06:29:58 n/100 for the delay perhaps 06:30:07 Delay is the one after animation name right>? 06:30:09 Oh, no. 06:30:16 after linear 06:30:21 Done. 06:30:27 I just see a nice full-screen colourchange 06:30:29 (You realise that the top page is 100, right?) 06:30:29 but it's beautiful 06:30:51 Now the problem is that the starting times are affected by the iframe loading times. :-\ 06:30:54 ?n=1 also has a spinny square 06:30:55 Unknown command, try @list 06:31:15 (the square is also colourechang) 06:31:31 mmm http://esolangs.org/no?n=1 06:32:28 Random experimentation: @-webkit-keyframe color-cycle { 0% { background: #000; } 40% { background: #00f; } 50% { background: #fff; } 60% { background: #0f0; } 100% { background: #000; } } 06:33:25 It's called "col" now. Get w/ the project. 06:33:26 program. 06:33:27 not project 06:33:29 heh 06:33:56 Now it does nothing. 06:34:15 Duh, now i typed “keyframe” instead of “keyframes”. 06:34:44 Why doesn’t IRC have CSS syntax checking? 06:35:00 This is a crappy tunnel. 06:35:03 A pretty one. 06:35:06 But crappy, as a tunnel. 06:36:15 (100-n)/100 06:36:39 Done 06:36:54 And the top page could have a static background, e.g. #000 06:37:31 The delay seems to be irrelevant, the loading time is too significant. 06:37:43 Could artificially super-lengthen the delay to give it time to settle 06:38:09 I think the only solution would be to use JavaScript to synchronize them based on the system clock. :-P 06:38:55 ONLY solution? Quitter. 06:41:15 Perhaps add another white flash to the sequence: @-webkit-keyframes col { 0% { background: #fff; } 10% { background: #000; } 40% { background: #00f; } 50% { background: #fff; } 60% { background: #f00; } 90% { background: #000; } 100% { background: #fff; } } 06:43:16 Tomorrow. 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Really? 07:26:35 it's funny because 07:40:12 I added more I made the file in which I recorded the dreams; both myself and others 07:45:31 -!- cheater_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 07:46:38 -!- cheater_ has joined. 08:00:02 !fyb test [>[+]++++++++++++++!] 08:01:01 !fyb busy_doing_nothing +[>[+]+++++++++++++++] 08:01:21 !fyb test2 [>[+]+++++++++++++++] 08:01:48 ​Score for impomatic_busy_doing_nothing: 0.0 08:02:17 ​Score for impomatic_test2: 3.9 08:09:41 Can you play the barometer game? 08:10:38 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 08:12:59 -!- Sgeo has joined. 08:14:07 Barometer? 08:17:34 I have some text adventure game in my computer involving the use of a barometer to measurea building. 08:24:08 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 08:28:51 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Quit: hagb4rd). 08:33:03 -!- zzo38 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:05:05 -!- Slereah has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 10:05:16 -!- Slereah has joined. 10:05:52 -!- cheater__ has joined. 10:09:10 -!- cheater_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 10:19:07 !fyb simplest_example? +[>[+]++++++++++++++!] 10:19:09 ​Score for impomatic_simplest_example_: 24.3 10:27:17 -!- nortti has joined. 10:41:49 -!- pikhq has joined. 10:41:57 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 10:44:33 !fyb example2 +[{>}[+]++++++++++++++!] 10:44:38 ​Score for impomatic_example2: 36.9 11:08:33 -!- MoALTz_ has joined. 11:09:41 -!- MoALTz has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 11:16:11 fyb? 11:16:26 !fyb test + 11:16:55 !fyb test [+!] 11:17:38 ​Score for mroman__test: 3.4 11:17:39 ​Score for mroman__test: 3.4 11:21:16 -!- impomatic has quit (Quit: impomatic). 11:46:17 -!- asiekierka has joined. 11:55:42 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 12:36:35 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 12:39:44 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 13:01:14 -!- Madoka-Kaname has quit (Quit: Hug~♪). 13:17:48 -!- derdon has joined. 13:46:55 -!- cheater__ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 13:49:51 -!- cheater__ has joined. 13:51:41 -!- cheater__ has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 13:53:09 -!- cheater__ has joined. 13:55:02 -!- Foggalong has joined. 13:55:25 Hello? 13:55:38 hello 13:55:40 Just checking this has connected correctly for future use 13:55:42 :) 13:55:44 Thanks 13:56:10 you can /query lambdabot and then say @ping 13:56:29 Oh, thanks :) 13:56:36 -!- Foggalong has quit (Client Quit). 13:56:42 ...................... ohhhhhhhhhhh kay. 13:56:51 -!- Foggalong has joined. 13:57:04 -!- Foggalong has quit (Client Quit). 13:58:39 uskomatonta 13:58:49 mikä? 13:59:04 lhes kaikki. 13:59:36 ja siitä piti ilmoittaa koska ....? 14:00:14 ? 14:00:42 jännää 14:00:46 joo 14:00:52 vihdoin ollaan samaa mielt 14:04:58 i would just like to inform everyone that me and nortti have unanimously decided that the only allowed language on this channel is finnish 14:05:53 i think. it's a very ambiguous language. 14:05:54 actually he decided that himself for that message 14:06:06 okay sorry 14:06:13 i have no idea what we were talking about then 14:07:36 so i hear that it's unknown whether the ternary square-free subshift is transitive 14:07:44 what's that about? 14:08:32 oklopol:"unbelievable" nortti:"what" oklopol:"almost everything" nortti:"and you need to inform about that because ...?" oklopol:"��?" nortti:"interesting" oklopol:"yes" "at last we agree" 14:09:12 well you totally took that out of context. 14:09:39 what did I took out of context? 14:10:30 That, I think. 14:10:33 yes 14:11:18 I don't understand how I took that out of context 14:12:16 -!- cheater__ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 14:12:54 that's what they all say 14:14:03 that conversation is conversation between me and oklopol after Foggalong had left in english 14:14:05 fizzie: are you a phd yet? 14:16:56 or alternatively the president of finland 14:17:48 -!- cheater has joined. 14:18:14 oklopol: I don't think that fizzie is Sauli Niinistö 14:19:38 i don't have time to check the president situation daily, i'm a busy man 14:19:39 No; I should be one at the end of 2013, is the schedule. (I mean, not the president.) 14:20:02 then i'm in a bit of a hurry if i want to beat you 14:20:59 getting elected as president in 2013 would require some skills because next presidental election is in 2018 14:21:13 has your erdos number increased? or decreased, but that's significantly less interesting. 14:21:40 erdos number? 14:22:08 nortti: fizzie has done some impressive stuff in befunge, which is essentially the two-dimensional version of finnish politics. 14:22:18 `addquote nortti: fizzie has done some impressive stuff in befunge, which is essentially the two-dimensional version of finnish politics. 14:22:26 840) nortti: fizzie has done some impressive stuff in befunge, which is essentially the two-dimensional version of finnish politics. 14:22:50 nortti: yeah that's english for erds 14:23:13 oklopol: I don't see the connection between befunge and finnish politics 14:25:32 well i'm talking about the hausdorff dimension, if that helps 14:32:37 fizzie: please answer, this is very important 14:32:54 -!- Lumpio- has joined. 14:33:19 hello 14:33:38 tai no täällä on niin paljon suomalaisia että moi 14:34:07 you have a very familiar name 14:34:34 ah, #c++ 14:34:52 you're the guy who hates thx right 14:34:59 yes ¬u¬ 14:35:20 i read everything you've ever written some years ago 14:35:21 I don't think I even have that .txt file online anymore though, I eventually gave up with it. 14:35:38 but i don't think we've ever talked 14:35:47 mm 14:35:59 I know him from #ohjelmointiputka at irnet 14:36:19 *ircnet 14:36:32 i maaay have visited that 14:37:23 back when i liked programming 14:37:32 oklopol: I don't think I have any/many new coauthors, so probably not. 14:37:57 i have now given someone an erdos number, but i haven't decreased my own 14:39:13 i write all my papers with the same coauthor or alone 14:40:29 well except the one obvious exception, because what i just said doesn't make much sense otherwise. 14:42:52 -!- impomatic has joined. 15:12:28 -!- TodPunk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:12:59 -!- TodPunk has joined. 15:17:16 -!- cheater has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 15:17:19 -!- RocketJSquirrel has set topic: Gregor Richards' IOCCC submission marvels crowds, ushers in new era for JIT design. "Wait, what's a JIT, anyway?" say judges | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 15:19:52 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 15:22:38 they're a system for hello worlding anywhere kovin fast 15:25:52 -!- Lumpio- has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 15:26:39 apparently i used wrong word though 15:28:24 Nonsense. 15:29:05 wiki says.. kovin is often with a negation verb 15:29:41 so maybe if i said "not kovin slowly" 15:31:26 ok ok its nonsense! 15:32:18 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 15:32:38 -!- cheater has joined. 15:39:21 -!- Patashu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:40:08 -!- Patashu has joined. 15:40:19 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 15:40:54 -!- oerjan has joined. 15:44:02 mouth and eyes and heart all bleed and run in..thickening streams of greed as bit by bit it..starts the need to just let go my party piece 15:44:02 -!- impomatic has joined. 15:44:02 ~ * ~ > http://homepage.alice.de/hagbard/disintegration.php < ~ * ~ 15:45:16 `<3 15:45:19 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: <3: not found 15:47:29 oklopol: fix your client to use utf-8 okthxbye 15:50:25 -!- cheater has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 15:51:00 -!- Madoka-Kaname has joined. 15:51:00 -!- Madoka-Kaname has quit (Changing host). 15:51:01 -!- Madoka-Kaname has joined. 15:52:36 -!- Patashu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:52:58 -!- Patashu has joined. 15:53:06 -!- Lumpio- has joined. 16:03:25 -!- variable has changed nick to trout. 16:05:57 -!- Ngevd has joined. 16:23:12 `@ Lumpio- ? welcome 16:23:15 Lumpio-: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page 16:23:32 Hi, and thanks, I've actually read the wiki quite a few times already 16:23:53 Just noticed nobody'd given you the proper #esoteric welcome 16:23:53 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 16:23:58 heh 16:24:06 Is there a secret handshake too? 16:24:24 Yes, it involves praising Gregor Richards for his awesome IOCCC win. 16:24:26 >_> 16:24:28 <_< 16:24:39 Maybe a dance encoding of Brainfuck, you could use it to declare your name as well! 16:26:35 -!- elliott has joined. 16:26:46 `WELCOME LUMPIO- 16:26:49 LUMPIO-: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE 16:26:54 -!- elliott has quit (Client Quit). 16:27:10 YES THANK YOU 16:27:15 ALSO MY HEARING IS QUITE FINE 16:27:20 elliott: Official #esoteric troll and also wiki admin. 16:27:23 `WeLcOmE kmc 16:27:25 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: WeLcOmE: not found 16:27:26 ooh 16:27:30 * kmc disappoint 16:27:34 Aww, it doesn't do automatic LaMeRCaSe 16:27:41 kmc: Well then implement it 16:28:00 -!- elliott has joined. 16:28:05 as i was saying: good afternoon 16:28:06 -!- elliott has quit (Changing host). 16:28:06 -!- elliott has joined. 16:28:36 `run echo -e '#!/bin/sh\necho "No lame-case for you."' > bin/WeLcOmE ; chmod 0755 bin/WeLcOmE 16:28:39 No output. 16:28:44 `WeLcOmE elliott 16:28:46 No lame-case for you. 16:30:49 RocketJSquirrel: Open this in a WebKit browser: http://esolangs.org/no 16:30:58 Or did I already throw that at you... 16:30:58 I ... don't want to ... 16:31:09 I've seen it in Firefox. 16:31:15 It doesn't work in Firefox. 16:31:18 You're thinking of no.html. 16:31:22 Oh. 16:31:26 Does Android count? 16:31:40 Uhh... possibly. Your phone might catch fire. 16:32:51 Oh dear lord 16:32:56 But where's the word "no"? 16:33:12 Oh, it's not fully loaded yet >_> 16:33:16 At the bottom of all 100 iframes 16:33:19 You can't technically see it. 16:33:30 ... greaaaaaaaaat. 16:33:49 I'm amazed that my tablet was responsive enough to close that tab without issue. 16:33:56 elliott: IFrame inside IFrame inside IFrame inside.... 16:34:46 and after all that clicking to get links2 display it there is text no 16:34:58 Bahaha 16:35:45 It's... not really links2-optimised. 16:35:55 I have to click IFrame link in links2 to see contents of that IFrame 16:36:20 It's... not really links2-optimised. // shock 16:36:27 elliott: I don't think that any page is links2 optimised 16:36:57 `addquote It's... not really links2-optimised. elliott: I don't think that any page is links2 optimised 16:36:59 841) It's... not really links2-optimised. elliott: I don't think that any page is links2 optimised 16:37:13 That ... isn't funny. 16:37:22 `pastefortunes 16:37:29 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12790 16:37:40 RocketJSquirrel: since when was that a requirement? 16:38:08 I like how that pastequotes script is just a one line hack 16:38:25 *pastefortunes 16:38:43 `run cat `which pastefortunes` 16:38:46 ​{ for i in *; do fortune; echo '-----' ; done; } | paste 16:39:28 "oerjan oklopol: fix your client to use utf-8 okthxbye" no u 16:39:53 `run cat `which pastequotes` 16:39:56 ​#!/bin/sh \ if [ "$1" ]; then quote "$1"; else allquotes; fi | paste 16:39:59 Same applies to pastequotes :P 16:41:25 `run ls -l `which pastefortunes` 16:41:28 ​-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 0 57 Apr 20 16:41 /hackenv/bin/pastefortunes 16:42:18 `cat `which WELCOME` 16:42:21 cat: `which WELCOME`: No such file or directory 16:42:23 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:42:31 `run cat `which WELCOME` 16:42:34 ​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | perl -ne 'print uc($_)' 16:42:45 `run cat `which welcome` 16:42:48 ​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome"; } 16:45:26 this game sucks 16:47:10 -!- Patashu has quit (Excess Flood). 16:47:25 -!- Patashu has joined. 16:47:47 -!- Patashu has quit (Excess Flood). 16:47:56 -!- Patashu has joined. 16:48:17 what game? 16:49:13 -!- Patashu has quit (Excess Flood). 16:49:22 -!- Patashu has joined. 16:49:45 Patashu: ping 16:49:51 hi 16:49:56 `run echo -e '#/bin/sh\necho -e "WeLcOmE tO tHe InTeRnAtIoNaL hUb FoR eSoTeRiC pRoGrAmMiNg LaNgUaGe dEsIgN aNd DePlOyMeNt! FoR mOrE iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK oUt OuR wIkI:\nHtTp://EsOlAnGs.OrG/wIkI/mAiN_pAgE"' > bin/WeLcOmE; chmod 0755 bin/WeLcOmE 16:49:58 No output. 16:49:58 I am trying to code a bot in mIRCscript 16:50:04 so far the bot is winning 16:50:07 *the language 16:50:08 I guess 16:50:10 anyway it's hard 16:50:41 `run echo -e '#/bin/sh\necho -e "$1: WeLcOmE tO tHe InTeRnAtIoNaL hUb FoR eSoTeRiC pRoGrAmMiNg LaNgUaGe dEsIgN aNd DePlOyMeNt! FoR mOrE iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK oUt OuR wIkI:\nHtTp://EsOlAnGs.OrG/wIkI/mAiN_pAgE"' > bin/WeLcOmE; chmod 0755 bin/WeLcOmE 16:50:44 No output. 16:50:57 `WeLcOmE Patashu 16:51:00 Patashu: WeLcOmE tO tHe InTeRnAtIoNaL hUb FoR eSoTeRiC pRoGrAmMiNg LaNgUaGe dEsIgN aNd DePlOyMeNt! FoR mOrE iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK oUt OuR wIkI: \ HtTp://EsOlAnGs.OrG/wIkI/mAiN_pAgE 16:51:39 nortti: cheat 16:51:46 `rm bin/WeLcOmE 16:51:48 No output. 16:51:49 gotta do it properly >:D 16:51:59 -!- Patashu has quit (Excess Flood). 16:52:06 I don't know any perl 16:52:13 -!- Patashu has joined. 16:52:46 -!- Patashu has quit (Excess Flood). 16:52:57 -!- Patashu has joined. 16:53:05 Patashu: can't you try it on another client? 16:53:18 yes 16:53:21 another client that supports mIRCscript 16:53:22 that isn't mIRC 16:53:23 good idea 16:53:24 also 16:53:25 while (%highestentry > %entryno) { 16:53:25 dec %highestentry 16:53:25 } 16:53:29 why does this make mIRC disconnect 16:53:33 Patashu: no, I mean 16:53:38 a client that doesn't have the name Patashu 16:53:45 because 16:53:46 * Patashu has quit (Excess Flood) 16:53:46 * Patashu (Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) has joined #esoteric 16:53:46 * Patashu has quit (Excess Flood) 16:53:46 * Patashu (Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) has joined #esoteric 16:54:21 if it does it one more time I'm going to give up and go to bed 16:54:24 actually 16:54:26 wow it's 3 am 16:54:43 @time Patashu 16:54:44 Local time for Patashu is Sat Apr 21 02:54:37 2012 16:54:50 @time 16:54:53 Local time for nortti is Fri Apr 20 19:54:58 2012 16:54:58 @time elliott 16:54:58 Local time for elliott is Fri Apr 20 17:55:31 16:56:27 http://www.cracked.com/article_19768_6-terrifying-childrens-cartoons-from-around-world.html 16:57:15 @time HackEgo 16:59:53 the Groke reminds me of a character in bubble bobble 17:00:25 -!- asiekierka has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:01:00 which i was just thinking about yesterday! 17:01:57 Hello! 17:04:18 -!- Patashu has quit (Excess Flood). 17:04:23 -!- asiekierka has joined. 17:06:42 -!- Patashu has joined. 17:06:45 -!- Patashu has quit (Excess Flood). 17:07:11 http://www.cracked.com/article_19768_6-terrifying-childrens-cartoons-from-around-world.html // I'll take MLP:FiM, TYVM. 17:09:03 elliott: hi 17:09:39 ih :noi 17:10:57 ion: what was that next one you wanted me to try? 17:10:59 (btw, the time inbetween me joining the channel and me saying "Hello!" was caused by me falling asleep) 17:11:43 ah 17:11:50 i 17:11:51 i see 17:15:57 I was wondering whether it would look nice or totally suck if we added another white flash to the sequence. @-webkit-keyframes col { 0% { background: #fff; } 10% { background: #000; } 40% { background: #00f; } 50% { background: #fff; } 60% { background: #f00; } 90% { background: #000; } 100% { background: #fff; } } 17:16:24 -!- augur has joined. 17:16:59 Let's find out 17:17:22 elliott: And adding copies of the styles with the other browser-specific vendor prefixes and the official CSS one would be nice. 17:17:51 Yeah yeah, I'll write some PHP to do that later :P 17:17:54 PHP: the best hammer. 17:17:56 ["", "-webkit-", "-moz-", "-ms-", "-o-"] 17:17:56 | 17:17:56 /| 17:18:03 http://esolangs.org/no 17:18:43 Looks a bit naff IMO 17:19:10 yeah 17:19:39 http://esolangs.org/no I made it alternate because why not. 17:19:57 Also, how about changing the background color of the top-level page to static black? 17:20:18 That's such a pain but OK :P 17:20:33 How about trying “ease” for the marquee once again? 17:21:01 alternate changes the effect a bit. 17:21:13 Done all, and reverted the colours 17:21:17 Whoa 17:21:30 Oh 17:21:35 I think I messed up the border 17:21:43 Yeah, ease is crappy because it just creates a huge black hole 17:22:03 I think the CSS might be broken. 17:22:33 It doesn’t do the marquee at all here. 17:22:42 Hmm 17:22:42 Ditto 17:22:54 That’s probably what causes the black hole in the middle. 17:23:04 div { 17:23:05 -webkit-animation: mar /*13*/8s linear infinite alternate; /*ease infinite alternate;*/ 17:23:05 -webkit-animation: rot 120s linear infinite; 17:23:05 } 17:23:11 Wait, how did those get put in one rule? 17:23:18 Fixe 17:23:19 d 17:23:35 And added a 1px white border to iframes 'cuz why not 17:24:11 Wow, I had no idea the internal geometry was this complex 17:24:16 heh 17:24:22 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:27:32 The current marquee animation keeps the thing outside the screen too much. 17:27:41 Yeah. 17:27:45 I'll adjust the translate. 17:27:46 ions 17:27:50 * ion s 17:27:54 Yes. 17:28:11 Also, the ease is the wrong way. 17:28:18 It goes slower at the edges, while IMO it should go slower in the middle. 17:30:19 Bah, I'll have to use cubic-bezier to fix that. 17:30:22 The web sucks. 17:30:30 Try changing ease to cubic-bezier(0,0.5,1,0.5) 17:30:44 Done 17:31:11 It would be nice to make the whole thing more square-shaped. 17:31:34 Ugh, this one goes to circle mess too 17:31:46 Yeah, we’re getting to the same problem as with the black hole. 17:31:51 i think 17:32:26 Yeah, if you stay in one place too much, the hall of mirrors starts reflecting itself too much :P 17:32:37 So I guess you have to be fast when there's a lot visible. 17:32:56 How about keeping the cubic-bezier thing but removing alternate and restoring the 100% translations? 17:33:18 Done. 17:34:05 This is better. 17:34:26 But it still degenerates, just slower. 17:34:34 yeah 17:34:37 Hmm. 17:35:11 Perhaps change the two 0.5s to 0.2 or something. 17:35:30 Oh, wait. That’s wrong. 17:35:35 0,0.2,1,0.8 17:36:15 Done; I'd just like to take a moment to marvel at how optimised WebKit's rendering engine must be to render this mess at any reasonable speed. 17:36:23 Indeed 17:36:46 -!- Ngevd has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 17:37:07 Still degenerates, alas. 17:37:36 -!- cheater has joined. 17:38:34 has anyone here ever used tomsrtbt? 17:39:40 @ping 17:39:40 pong 17:40:28 ion: Why is my mosh session all froze up. :( 17:46:27 ion: http://esolangs.org/no Finally, something that actually freezes my browser. 17:47:39 elliott: doesn't freeze my browser 17:47:54 Is your browser links2? 17:48:38 Because that's like saying your car never crashes because it can only go at 1 mph. 17:49:41 :-) The frame rate does get a bit low. 17:49:58 -!- cheater has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 17:50:15 elliott: it is 17:51:28 my other browser (hv3) also doesn't freeze 17:51:37 and it passes acid2 17:51:50 and has support for ECMAScript 17:56:02 * itidus21 contemplates the correlation between hyperlinks and markup languages. 18:02:06 -!- lament has joined. 18:02:18 〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜 18:02:18 lament: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. 18:02:59 does anyone wish to be banned 18:03:09 -!- cheater has joined. 18:03:15 i think lament does 18:03:29 `pastelogs ban me 18:03:29 not sure though 18:04:01 No output. 18:04:05 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o lament. 18:04:05 `pastelogs ban me 18:04:10 -!- lament has set channel mode: +b *!*lament@184.71.170.*. 18:04:14 anyone else? 18:04:37 No output. 18:04:38 hmm 18:04:46 clog, he hasn't said anything in years, must really hate the place 18:05:22 clog is the only one in this channel who really understands me 18:05:51 glogbot then 18:05:55 clog's mortal enemy 18:06:12 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21645 18:09:24 -!- cheater has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 18:09:59 a surprisingly short list 18:10:21 technically many of those probably expired 18:10:40 such things never expire 18:11:05 and shachaf was quite specific that he wanted oerjan in particular to ban him 18:11:34 lament: just /msg chanserv clear #esoteric users 18:11:39 anyone who wants to be banned just won't come back 18:12:10 -!- Foggalong has joined. 18:12:23 -!- cheater has joined. 18:12:36 that's not true 18:13:00 perhaps they want to be banned but will still come back due to poor impulse control 18:13:04 -!- augur has joined. 18:13:54 well, ban anyone who comes back then :) 18:14:16 -!- Foggalong has quit (Client Quit). 18:14:17 ! 18:14:26 it's a foolproof plan 18:14:42 -!- lament has set channel mode: +o clog. 18:14:54 -!- lament has left. 18:15:15 Reasonable. 18:15:25 -!- zzo38 has joined. 18:15:43 -!- Ngevd has joined. 18:16:24 Hi Ngevd! We just had some bans. 18:16:28 Well, one. 18:16:34 Hello! 18:16:46 Oh, who? 18:16:55 lament 18:17:02 Also clog is an op now. 18:17:06 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: -o clog. 18:17:15 * tswett GASP 18:17:53 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 11.0/20120312181643]). 18:18:19 RIP clog's ophood. 18:18:30 O'Phood. 18:18:52 Does clog being an op mean anything of use? 18:19:02 Carl Log O'Phood. 18:19:30 zzo38: It could ban people. ...Very quietly. 18:21:30 -!- Taneb has joined. 18:21:37 -!- Ngevd has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:22:23 -!- Taneb has changed nick to Ngevd. 18:23:15 elliott: Why? 18:23:21 zzo38: Whyn't. 18:27:56 -!- Ngevd has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:29:18 -!- asiekierka has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:30:19 -!- cheater has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 18:31:35 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o clog. 18:33:11 I'm scared. 18:42:06 -!- cheater has joined. 18:52:43 -!- itidus21 has left ("Read error: Connection reset by peer"). 18:55:38 I can now say that I have written the advanced search form (accessible from the main menu) for Chess Variants. 18:57:57 Anyone playing Pokemon Card on here by now? 18:58:15 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:02:40 -!- Tod-Autojoined has joined. 19:03:57 -!- TodPunk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:04:18 -!- augur has joined. 19:08:00 helo 19:08:00 Phantom_Hoover: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. 19:12:04 -!- MoALTz has joined. 19:12:21 -!- MoALTz_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 19:15:00 Phantom_Hoover: hel 19:18:51 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10222297/i-got-this-code-form-google-i-want-statement-wise-explanation-plz-help-me-if-an what a great question 19:20:15 There's not even any code there! D: 19:22:50 -!- boily has joined. 19:24:41 anything with /* in it must be code 19:27:40 -!- nortti_ has joined. 19:27:40 -!- nortti has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:34:15 elliott: Awww, you deleted it :'( 19:34:53 RocketJSquirrel: No, it was deleted before I linked it. 19:34:56 What was in, question 19:34:59 I was, dinner 19:35:05 Oh 19:35:12 I wasn't expecting anybody to actually be able to read it :P 19:35:14 zzo38: I've just sold all my Pokemon Cards, apart from a few black star promos 19:35:53 impomatic: That is OK, you don't need any for what I am trying to ask about. 19:37:09 Do you know the first edition rules? I use these rules with a few variations having to do with resolving ties (I dislike the standard rules for resolving ties). 19:37:16 RocketJSquirrel: Phantom_Hoover: http://ompldr.org/vZGc3ZA 19:37:43 looooooooool 19:37:58 Wow. 19:38:03 I haven't played for about 10 years... I don't really remember. 19:38:11 -!- itidus21 has joined. 19:39:23 Such as, in this picture, what can you think about this situation and who do you think is winning? (I can supply card texts if you want, or answer any other questions about the rules of the game) http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/img_14/pokemoncard1.png 19:40:07 I do have another picture for later in the game too; if you make guesses about this one I will show you the next one too 19:40:37 ...that was deleted like yesterday 19:40:47 Or well, closed ¬u¬ 19:42:25 impomatic: In case you need reminded, there are three ways of winning the game: If you have picked up all of your side cards, you win. If you have no more cards in play, you lose. If you have no cards to draw at the beginning of your turn, you lose. 19:43:26 wait 19:43:32 Why is that picture partially in Japanese and partially in English 19:44:11 Lumpio-: It is a translation patch which translates all the card texts to English and leaves the rest in Japanese. 19:44:40 I thought there was an official English translation of that 19:45:22 Well, this is the unofficial version. 19:45:31 mm 19:46:15 At any rate I'd say the top player has an advantage. 19:46:35 Lumpio-: Why do you believe that? (Notice that the top player is confused.) 19:47:06 They're not the only one [CANNED LAUGHTER] 19:47:23 Imagine if you could actually put laughter in a can. 19:47:51 Actually I only now noticed the top player has way less cards left on their deck. 19:49:39 Lumpio-: Well, yes, there are many things to notice. Top player has already picked up one side card, they have two Stage 2 evolution cards, more cards in hand, more cards in trash. But also notice that the bottom player has HAUNTER [Lv17] which has a specal ability that attacks have a 50% chance not to affect it. 19:50:29 ...then again it also can't damage the kangaskhan 19:50:39 Lumpio-: Yes, that too. 19:51:22 But 1) one prize card taken 2) two level 2 pokemon on the bench (one has enough energy for a decent attack) 3) one more pokemon on the bench in total 19:51:33 4) resistance against all current enemy pokemon attacks 19:51:58 Also I'd imagine he also has a good probability of having a good hand 19:52:40 Since I think he might've used a prof. oak 19:53:01 Which you usually use when you only have "bad" cards in your hand, and it should get you better ones 19:53:05 Then again I'm not an expert 19:53:08 OK. Who do you think is winning now (a later part of the game)? http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/img_14/pokemoncardII.png 19:53:09 oh no, not prof. oak... 19:55:00 Which lugia is that 19:55:54 It is LUGIA [Lv55] it says right there. Its attack is 2+2*coin(2) damage. 20:00:54 After that, see if you can solve this puzzle game I made up: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/textfile/miscellaneous/pokemon_card/puzzle.1 20:02:05 And this one too: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/textfile/miscellaneous/pokemon_card/puzzle.2 20:05:26 (back) 20:05:38 Those 7+ energy on that charmander look suspicious 20:06:44 * Lumpio- ponders 20:07:07 There are ten in total. And, yes, it is looking suspicious. 20:07:44 But there are uses for such a thing. 20:11:08 ...he's not trying to do the obvious and evolve that and then spam attacks is he 20:23:41 @time 20:23:45 Local time for nortti_ is Fri Apr 20 23:23:49 2012 20:23:50 @time oklopol 20:23:51 Local time for oklopol is Fri Apr 20 23:23:26 2012 20:25:50 @time fizzie 20:25:52 Local time for fizzie is Fri Apr 20 23:25:51 2012 20:25:53 @time Deewiant 20:25:55 Local time for Deewiant is Fri Apr 20 23:25:54 2012 20:25:58 @time atehwa 20:26:00 Local time for atehwa is Fri Apr 20 23:25:58 2012 20:26:02 @time ineiros 20:26:03 Local time for ineiros is Fri Apr 20 23:26:02 2012 20:26:04 @time ion 20:26:05 Local time for ion is Fri Apr 20 23:26:05 2012 20:26:07 @time Lumpio- 20:26:07 Local time for Lumpio- is Fri Apr 20 23:26:07 2012 20:26:10 What a weird coincidence! 20:26:36 ¬u¬ 20:26:42 oklopol: Your clock is off by about 25 seconds 20:26:48 `? finland 20:26:51 Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least five of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. 20:27:04 `learn Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least eight of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. 20:27:07 I knew that. 20:27:14 `? Corun 20:27:17 Corun? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 20:27:54 > let co ('c':'o':xs) = xs; co xs = 'c':'o':xs in co "corun" 20:27:54 "run" 20:28:10 It's rampant Finnflation. 20:28:18 ? 20:33:42 Lumpio-: That is one possibility, another possibility is the MR.FUJI to prevent from running out of cards; but actually he was just bluffing. 20:34:24 (The top player lost; he ran out of cards with nothing to save him) 20:35:09 RocketJSquirrel: You awful person. 20:35:50 My friend is getting 60MB/s download speeds, what 20:37:53 I have been thinking about an esoteric programming language: it is string rewriting and I think it is at least a PDA. > copies char next to it in right side to next string, < copies char next to it in left side, x copies from both sides, - doesn't copy anything, [ and ] don't copy anything and work something like this ">["->"[" ">[ab"->"[ab" ">[ab]c"->"[ab]" ">]a"-> "a" ">[ab[c]d"->"[ab[c]"(and "]<"->"]" "ab]<"->"ab]" "c[ab]<"->"[ab]" 20:38:31 Oh, it's Mb/s, the lying bastard. 20:38:43 (I explicitly asked him which one it was beforehand.) 20:38:59 zzo38: Well he was doing pretty well in the first picture but eventually ran out of material I guess. 20:43:31 Lumpio-: Actually, even in the first picture I was thinking he was almost definitely losing. Which works if the bottom player (me) can defend, which partially involved not knocking out the opponent's cards because if that is done, he can switch more easily and attack; so this way gives him limited chances to switch. 20:43:58 Lumpio-: By the way, are you from Helsinki? Statistics purposes. 20:44:40 Lumpio-: Can you solve either of the text-based puzzles? 20:52:38 -!- boily has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7). 20:55:55 elliott: I'm in Lahti which is about 100km to the North of Helsinki 20:57:00 zzo38: I take it the solution would be the one that has the highest probability of winning? (including 100%) 20:57:39 Lumpio-: Hmm. That probably counts as Helsinki. 20:57:44 Lumpio-: Yes. 20:58:25 how many people there were from either helsinki or hexham? 20:58:29 *here 20:58:50 Helsinki has, like, five, and Hexham only two. But we still win for density. 20:59:24 who else was from hexham 20:59:30 I don't think Lahti really counts if you ask a random Finn; I doubt many would count places like Järvenpää or Kerava either. 21:00:30 nortti_: Taneb. 21:00:47 -!- nortti_ has changed nick to nortti. 21:00:53 There are two sort of "standard" extensions to Helsinki; the green and light-green bits of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Helsinki 21:00:58 fizzie: Well, the thing is, if you guys get to count Lahti, not only does that raise your total population (and thus lower your density), but it means we get to count, say, Newcastle or Edinburgh too. 21:01:26 http://oi43.tinypic.com/111ig6b.jpg 21:02:26 for those who look "I know.. it's very droll.." 21:02:49 Lumpio-: But can you find anything at all with either of these two puzzles? 21:03:26 zzo38: Gimme a moment, the last time I played pokemon card games must've been 8 years ago... 21:04:28 "Commonly about eight more municipalities are considered to be part of Greater Helsinki, as they can be considered as commuter towns and exurbs of Helsinki. When Hyvinkää, Järvenpää, Kerava, Kirkkonummi, Nurmijärvi, Sipoo, Tuusula, and Vihti are included, the number of inhabitants rises to 1.2 million. -- Statistics Finland define the commuter belt of Helsinki (Helsingin ... 21:04:35 ... työssäkäyntialue, Helsingfors pendlingsområde) to include a total of 24 municipalities, with a land area of 7,359.80 km2 and a population of 1,431,108 as of 31 December 2007.[2][3] In addition to that, there are people from as far as Lahti and even Tampere commuting to Helsinki daily." It sort of sounds like even Stat. Fin. doesn't count Lahti, despite a few weirdoes commuting from ... 21:04:41 ... there daily. 21:06:22 Okay, fine! 21:06:26 Can we have Edinburgh anyway? 21:06:47 zzo38: ok, June 29th one: 21:06:54 fizzie: It's < 100 miles, you know! 21:07:13 I don't really have an onion how these esolanginess rankings go. 21:07:23 1) Use gengar's power to move 1 damage from dark muck to porygon 2) Use gust of wind to switch in grimer 3) Retreat gengar, bring out hypno 4) Use dark mind, with bench damage to porygon 21:07:26 (Admittedly 100 miles is quite a lot of Britain.) 21:07:49 Lumpio-: No; won't work. Notice that weak/resist is being ignored. 21:08:36 Well, switch the mime in then ┐(￣ー￣)┌ 21:08:41 The screwiest thing: the "online shop" of the national train company is not open during the night (23:30--06:00). Because why should the Internet be open at night? 21:08:53 fizzie: Hey, the gerbils have to sleep. 21:09:05 Lumpio-: That won't work either; there are two of them, so they cancel each other's weak/resist 21:09:16 -!- derdon has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:10:29 Well that's not very nice of you. 21:11:04 Not very nice of me? No, I just make the game to be not too easy. 21:12:27 * elliott popcorn 21:13:28 * Lumpio- ( ￣〜￣) 21:15:16 Sigh, I really need to install more fonts. 21:15:35 FFE3 301C FFE3 just isn't a very appealing face. 21:18:28 i once made this trivial military sim game.. and my friend found a loophole.. and i was frustrated by that. game designing ain't easy 21:18:42 once real people start using your rules 21:20:58 Deewiant: i'm sure that's due to my gravitational field. 21:21:57 Fizzie: my internet banking is only open 9am to 5pm 21:27:44 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:31:42 -!- elliott has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:31:51 -!- elliott has joined. 21:32:00 Yay, it works now. 21:33:14 Fizzie: my internet banking is only open 9am to 5pm lolwut 21:34:03 -!- myndzi\ has changed nick to myndzi. 21:36:21 i cut my knee somehow 21:36:34 -!- monqy has joined. 21:37:03 hi monqy 21:37:05 er i mean 21:37:06 hello monqy 21:37:11 that was just a normal everyday greeting 21:37:31 Greetings monqy. Hahahahahaha! 21:37:33 helloliot 21:37:36 hi itidus21 21:39:10 hi 21:40:18 i think probability of someone laughing at you after greeting you with the word greetings is signifigantly larger than that if they greet you with a more typical greeting 21:40:31 ohio 21:40:49 `pastelogs \ 21:41:04 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.16181 21:41:14 hahahaha 21:41:15 `pastelogs \bhi\b 21:44:31 -!- esowiki has joined. 21:44:32 -!- glogbot has joined. 21:44:32 -!- glogbackup has left. 21:44:35 -!- EgoBot has joined. 21:44:35 -!- HackEgo has joined. 21:44:36 -!- esowiki has joined. 21:44:36 -!- esowiki has joined. 21:45:03 -!- glogbackup has joined. 21:46:18 ... 21:46:21 I like how glogbackup decided to come back. 21:46:25 -!- RocketJSquirrel has joined. 21:47:48 ion: I hope you're proud of yourself. 21:48:17 `pastelogs \bhi\b 21:48:30 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29077 21:49:05 it's hell: the text file 21:49:18 Why doesn’t it paste the whole thing? :-( 21:49:35 It would just time out if it did. 21:49:41 Chromium thinks that page is in Catalan. 21:49:54 2003-03-22.txt:01:41:34: hi. It's rather quiet here, but you can always read the logs and reply to month-old conversations. 21:50:11 lament predicted the art of logreading years before it was established. 21:50:41 * elliott is reading this as one continuous conversation. 21:50:55 2004-07-22.txt:22:58:23: the conversation, thinly spread over days and weeks, consists mostly of calamari_ saying "hi" 21:52:23 2003-07-10.txt:06:13:54: It's a program that prints 'hi world', followed by a newline 21:55:06 00:26:48: hi ettioll 21:55:06 00:26:52: nice name actually 21:55:06 00:26:54: hi elliott 21:55:06 00:27:10: hi 21:55:06 00:27:16: hi 21:55:08 00:28:40: hi 21:55:11 00:28:49: hi 21:55:13 00:29:10: hi 21:55:16 00:29:20: shut up, monqy 21:55:18 im logread 21:55:27 Lumpio-: Did you figure out the game now? You almost got it but not quite 21:57:09 kind of AFK 21:57:14 IRL stuff 22:03:16 elliott: You say that as it’s a normal kind of thing to do in that situation. :-P 22:03:41 ion: Wait, what's "that"? 22:04:07 Lumpio-'s nick makes me think Lugonu now 22:04:39 It would just time out if it did. 22:05:19 ion: Oh! I meant the command would time out. 22:05:21 Not the bots. 22:05:25 Although that could happen too :P 22:05:38 Sgeo: hi 22:06:02 http://oi40.tinypic.com/2wc31js.jpg 22:08:28 i'll allow it 22:09:11 i seem to love screenshotting books i've never read 22:09:13 Sgeo: oh dear, have you been talking in ##crawl again 22:09:26 monqy, not Haskell stuff 22:09:46 I think I like Crawl 22:09:59 I can play it online without hurting my good NetHack game that's been there for years 22:11:03 monqy, Trog 22:11:09 what 22:11:46 * Sgeo was a worshipper of Trog 22:12:00 okay 22:12:10 Sgeo: how far is your "good nethack game" exactly 22:12:35 elliott, not sure 22:13:11 all you know about it is it's good? 22:13:54 maybe it's great and he doesn't realize it 22:14:04 :o 22:15:26 I have an old unfinished game on one of the Crawl servers. 22:15:50 elliott, I should log in 22:16:08 ion: Did they expire? 22:16:32 I am on Dlvl 8 22:17:17 I have no idea. I hope not, perhaps i’ll finish it one day. 22:17:30 That is, die yet another stupid death. 22:17:34 Sgeo: im watch 22:17:42 elliott, I'm not going to play now 22:17:46 what !! 22:17:47 Just looking 22:18:02 Why did I think I was doing well 22:18:11 i 22:18:16 Oh, I think I'm in Minetown 22:18:21 don't know how bad your average nethack game is 22:18:34 but it must be only slightly better than mine if this is a many-years-old good-game 22:18:35 is minetown doing well for sgeo 22:18:55 I've been to Sokoban on several occasions 22:19:06 And I think I typically do Mines after, I think? 22:21:26 Sgeo: you should move 22:21:41 he quit already 22:21:50 oh 22:21:54 ok then 22:22:54 i was still watchin 22:22:54 g 22:22:55 impatiently 22:23:09 I did not, in fact, #quit 22:23:29 I (S)aved 22:23:42 "he already saved the game and in that way ended his playing session" 22:30:17 what is the most complete polyglot self-interpreter? (aka, for some set S, a P s.t. forall languages L in S, P is a valid L program that interprets L) 22:31:45 Lumpio-: In case you do not know the solution to this puzzle I can tell you, although you should try to figure it out yourself first (if you cannot, you can ask the the solution in case you want it). 22:34:08 I can also provide a hint if wanted. 22:35:31 quintopia: Complete existing or possible? 22:35:41 elliott: existing 22:35:53 quintopia: I would suspect |S| < 4, and most likely = 2 or 1. 22:36:10 okay 22:36:12 quintopia: Actually, wait, that's easy. 22:36:20 IIRC dbfi is portable to multiple EOF behaviours and bit widths. 22:36:22 what is the most complete multi-language interpreter 22:36:27 Actually, I think it doesn't ever use under or overflow. 22:36:35 So P = dbfi, |L| = \aleph_0 22:36:36 erm 22:36:38 *|S| 22:36:51 Oh, wait. 22:36:56 dbfi only interprets 8-bit brainfuck on any host language. 22:37:09 But you could pretty easily write a BF self-interpreter that matches the bitwidth of the host. 22:38:06 not sure what you're driving at 22:38:58 i was thinking of a program that ... as a C program interprets C, as a ruby program interprets ruby, as a bf program interprets bf, as a whitespace program interprets whitespace, etc. 22:39:02 the same program 22:39:04 Yes. 22:39:12 so 22:39:18 I found the brainfuck interpreter in brainfuck which makes cells have twice as many bits as it is in the host 22:39:24 You can easily write a program that as a BF_8 program interprets BF_8, as a BF_16 program interprets BF_16, etc. 22:39:26 i'm not sure how you're getting "infinite S" 22:39:27 In fact, one of them might already exist. 22:39:33 oh 22:39:35 So |S| = \aleph_0 modulo S.M.O.P. 22:39:39 meh 22:39:46 that's cheating 22:39:50 It might help to define "language". 22:39:54 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:40:09 "something that has its own wiki page somewhere" 22:40:17 "and is a programming language" 22:40:35 Consider a language family cheat(L) for all L, where cheat(L) has all instructions of L plus an additional instruction at some unlikely Unicode codepoint that is a self-interpreter. 22:40:58 Then P = {that codepoint}, |S| = |all languages not using that codepoint|. 22:41:57 i know this isn't the best way to look at it but if you have the sources for multiple interpreters you could compile them all together into one which can determine if the input language matches any of it's available interpreters 22:43:28 Where does the {true, false, filenotfound} thing come from originally anyway? 22:43:39 TDWTF doesn't actually say. 22:43:49 elliott: what is the best multi-interpreter written in any language? 22:44:00 quintopia: Define best. 22:44:07 Phantom_Hoover: Some code that defined a boolean type that way. 22:44:37 elliott: most languages supported, runs as standalone app in linux 22:45:02 elliott, well yeah, but what context? 22:45:29 Or is that literally all there ever was to it? 22:45:39 (I thought it was from a .NET builtin for some reason.) 22:49:30 with these kind of questions i think it is possible to cheat the definition of program 22:49:49 elliott: no answer? 22:50:29 You want an interpreter *app*? 22:50:45 -!- nortti has quit (Quit: leaving). 22:50:51 quintopia: I was away. 22:51:09 like.. if one was to take all the interpreters written in brainfuck.. would it be possible to add some code to them combining them all together.. i think it would 22:51:27 If you're asking as a practical matter, then... a VM with a Linux distro on it. You phrased the question in a formal way, which didn't exactly indicate that. 22:52:02 i sure couldn't do it though 22:52:04 It's a very different question without the self-interpreter part, though. 22:53:19 Phantom_Hoover: The context wasn't posted AFAIK, but I presume it was being used as a status return type. 22:53:35 i.e. success, fail, or fail-because-of-the-external-reason-that-the-file-is-missing 22:53:57 Yeah, I was just confused for a while because I thought I'd seen the origin before. 22:54:09 And I assumed TDWTF was referencing that, not some unseen code. 22:54:37 Phantom_Hoover: The origin was *posted* on TDWTF. 22:54:45 The definition of the enum was a TDWTF submission. 22:55:11 Yes, I know that now. 22:55:27 -!- nortti has joined. 23:01:30 -!- impomatic has left. 23:05:55 -!- tzxn3 has quit (*.net *.split). 23:05:55 -!- ion has quit (*.net *.split). 23:05:55 -!- jix has quit (*.net *.split). 23:05:55 -!- FireFly has quit (*.net *.split). 23:05:55 -!- mtve has quit (*.net *.split). 23:06:39 how much of the c90 does c2bf support? 23:06:58 c2bf supports nothing. 23:07:00 gcc-bf OTOH... 23:11:16 -!- tzxn3 has joined. 23:11:16 -!- ion has joined. 23:11:16 -!- jix has joined. 23:11:16 -!- FireFly has joined. 23:11:16 -!- mtve has joined. 23:11:27 hi tzxn3 ion jix FireFly mtve 23:23:19 -!- zzo38 has joined. 23:25:32 -!- nortti_ has joined. 23:25:33 -!- nortti has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:27:09 http://esolangs.org/no does not freeze by browser but it does prevent some commands from working until it is closed and restarted. 23:28:13 zzo38: what browser are you using? 23:28:40 nortti_: Mozilla-based. 23:29:12 based on which version of gecko? 23:29:41 How do I check that? 23:30:38 Is there any file which tells you that, or a JavaScript command on the chrome windows which will tell you that? 23:31:08 It's more likely to freeze on WebKit, where the animation actually runs :P 23:33:55 hi elliott elliott elliott elliott elliott 23:34:24 zzo38: try about: 23:34:46 nortti_: Gecko/20090629 23:35:14 whole user agent please 23:35:41 nortti_: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre) Gecko/20090629 Vonkeror/1.0 23:35:55 Most other people I have asked about the puzzle.1 have answered in the same way as Lumpio- and said to GUST OF WIND to activate opponent's DARK MUK [Lv25] and move one point of damage from that to PORYGON [Lv12]; but that doesn't work because weak/resistance is currently being ignored. So, they say, activate opponent's MR.MIME [Lv20], but that won't work either because there are two of them! 23:36:53 zzo38:it uses gecko 1.9.1 (Same as firefox 3.5) 23:37:09 OK 23:37:26 ion: helliott 23:38:15 Only one person has correctly solved both puzzles so far. 23:39:27 How many people have solved at least one? 23:39:57 Sgeo: The same thing... only one person 23:40:20 Ok 23:41:32 Can you? 23:42:30 (back) I don't suppose there's any way to use the itemfinder 666 23:43:05 Lumpio-: Do you want a hint? 23:43:19 Is there way to use it? 23:43:37 zzo38, it's Pokemon puzzles, right? 23:43:38 Yes. But not the first thing you do. 23:43:42 Sgeo: Yes. 23:43:44 (I didn't actually spend that much time thinking, but my memory of the rules is a bit hazy) 23:44:49 zzo38, I don't know much about Pokemon, sorry 23:44:58 Sgeo: OK 23:45:09 I guess you need to somehow get one of your prize cards before your attack 23:45:17 Lumpio-: If you have any questions about the rules, you can ask. 23:45:27 Lumpio-: And can you see any way to do so? 23:45:29 fizzie: Did you see the, err, incident earlier, by the way? 23:45:55 ...not immediately 23:46:17 Would you like a hint? I have a hint I can provide if requested. 23:47:36 Where are the puzzles? 23:48:03 Sgeo: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/textfile/miscellaneous/pokemon_card/puzzle.1 and puzzle.2 23:50:10 * Sgeo sends the URLs to someone 23:50:45 Hey, actually 23:50:53 (I'm wondering if she could solve it, although she says it's been a while since doing Pokemon stuff) 23:51:00 Does weakness apply to the extra 1 damage that dark mind does? 23:51:27 Lumpio-: No. Weakness and resistance does not apply to damage to bench pokemon cards. 23:51:49 ok