< 1334188805 853127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have printed business cards for someone using TeX, a few times. < 1334188918 377013 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you printed Magic: The Gathering cards using TeX? < 1334188952 43259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, I haven't done so. I do not even have the fonts for the mana symbols and that stuff < 1334188965 361041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, that's TeXnicard. < 1334188990 751095 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeXnicolor < 1334189016 681677 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which means I cannot do so by TeXnicard either; but if someone make GF fonts for the mana symbols then it will work) < 1334189026 539628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hands off < 1334189052 649556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(METAFONT is preferable since it is scalable; GF is not scalable) < 1334189088 31518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hands off wat < 1334189102 635509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGL < 1334189111 77512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can add it to the language list though < 1334189127 581271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't even browsing esolang at the moment < 1334189156 349409 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/EGL < 1334189167 305686 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's in need of some hands < 1334189366 574414 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334189387 942429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1334189405 681500 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you what elliott told me today monqy < 1334189414 978382 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:43 hi < 1334189443 51536 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott doesn't want you to quit hi because it's bad for you < 1334189448 811470 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just wants all the hi for himself < 1334189455 169738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im struggling too < 1334189528 163506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1334189535 184798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do LLVM programs require the standard C library to run? < 1334189556 433306 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should hope not. < 1334189575 194743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/EGL tada < 1334189621 745822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : this C++03 faux-functional stuff is really awful < 1334189624 748416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: FEW TOO MANY WORDS THERE EH EH < 1334189633 286648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPECIFICALLY THE "03 FAUX-FUNCTIONAL" PART < 1334189686 133781 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA, HA! < 1334189711 175626 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOUNDS TO ME LIKE "THIS" and "STUFF" ARE ALSO EXTRANEOUS < 1334189726 20949 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE C++? MORE LIKE STUPID PLUS PLUS, AM I RIGHT? < 1334189984 638535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently esolangs.org has 1,406 incoming links from animepaper.net. < 1334189990 500967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks... Google? < 1334190008 505912 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.226.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will go see what that is. < 1334190056 82932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's a japanese center for malbolge programming < 1334190071 272499 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.226.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, it doesn't seem to sell anime-decorated stationary or toilet paper. < 1334190093 113726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally. Anime-decorated toilet paper. < 1334190104 965271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one thing I have been waiting for my entire life! < 1334190130 10158 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.226.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you spin the roll fast enough, it's like a flip book. < 1334190143 160549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesss < 1334190320 74932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1334190320 781906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been asking a few questions about concurrency in Haskell, particular TVar, and I've had concerns about livelock with TVar. < 1334190320 958775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead, I've proposed this solution. < 1334190321 120757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) Wrap all shared data in the program in one data structure, and wrap that in an IORef. (2) Simply do any changes using atomicModifyIORef. < 1334190321 839606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1334190328 934455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Why didn't the smart Haskell people think of that before? < 1334190347 101787 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1334190354 568863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not able rightly to apprehend etc. < 1334190386 926917 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not actually a bad idea, dependint on your workload < 1334190401 953469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: garbage in, babbage out < 1334190419 510924 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember Simon Marlow benchmarked a bunch of different concurrent datastructures for the IO manager < 1334190426 704141 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the one that did best was IORef + persistent data structure < 1334190443 853706 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess I can't tell without context whether they think this should replace all STM ever < 1334190461 97892 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can't make it strict < 1334190467 665413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, but that would correspond to one IORef for each "structure". < 1334190472 259293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not one IORef with your ENTIRE PROGRAM STATE. < 1334190479 6046 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you want STM-like atomicity... < 1334190519 521112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so he's basically reinvented the python GIL (sp?) < 1334190529 189389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: At least it won't livelock! < 1334190531 674464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yep XD < 1334190540 132905 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atomicModifyIORef is lockless < 1334190558 55781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still forces serialisation < 1334190560 869808 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1334190571 125987 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean saying it "reinvents the GIL" is not really fair < 1334190580 941698 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe fair enough for our "making fun of people on stackoverflow" mode < 1334190642 385146 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha! Those people on the stack overflow! < 1334190648 165126 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kmc stack.overflow < 1334190648 325393 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. There are some things that I just don't know. < 1334190652 222816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kmc stackoverflow < 1334190652 383281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Are you on drugs? < 1334190654 161942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kmc overflow < 1334190654 322318 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. And you call yourself a Rocket Scientist! < 1334190655 259038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kmc stack < 1334190655 435805 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. My brain just exploded < 1334190656 668489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kmc o < 1334190656 846799 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: on December 21, 2012 A.D., Jesus Christ himself will return to Earth and make the final commit on GHC < 1334190663 382301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a terrible quote. < 1334190664 976224 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think lambdabot's database got wiped. :-( < 1334190667 630736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@forget kmc on December 21, 2012 A.D., Jesus Christ himself will return to Earth and make the final commit on GHC < 1334190667 791191 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1334190689 506154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nah it's probably just elliott < 1334190708 503338 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, I think it did. < 1334190717 236931 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALl my good quotes got wiped and now lambdabot only has bad quotes by me. :-( < 1334190724 15644 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1334190753 615349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Then retype the good one < 1334190780 357791 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some good quotes, and some other quotes too that were written by me (and some other people too) < 1334190792 78476 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm no good at that. < 1334190794 75710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote shachaf < 1334190794 547971 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf says: Group projects are stupid Try a semigroup project sometime. You need to lose your identity. < 1334191199 371255 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334191211 361375 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1334191267 267095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it permitted to take a shorthand writing paper into a live theatre or movie theatre? < 1334191300 740464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1334191396 365475 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334191622 783741 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to film film from back of cinema. < 1334191841 394381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm film < 1334192107 780178 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/67p4QihDO9c < 1334192144 462532 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: don’t begin clicking on other Fonejacker clips in the related videos. You’ll lose the whole night. < 1334192168 965340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This video contains content from Base79 TV (Base79/2) and Channel 4, one or more of whom have blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." < 1334192281 186265 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ and they’ve not blocked it in Finland? < 1334192309 58124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: IIRC there's good reason it's usually blocked in the country of origin and nowhere else. < 1334192319 689604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what that reason is, though. < 1334192416 687517 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about this copy? http://youtu.be/8No35aomeok < 1334192955 66342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same. < 1334192985 985423 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about this copy? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2j5vx_fonejacker-you-want-buy-dvd_fun < 1334193128 869288 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f063.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334193212 892294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works. < 1334193446 31934 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com NICK :TodPunk < 1334193953 37348 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334194053 785662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1334195577 998880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: If you enjoyed our product "Believing everything you read on Hacker News", why not try "Believing everything you read in the Weekly World News"? < 1334195915 87746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, reading this HN thread, I think the "nobody is ever good enough to write crypto ever and unless you're using crypto code handed down by God himself on stone tablets, you are already hacked" crap has done more overall harm than incompetent crypto istelf. < 1334195916 200758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*itself < 1334195983 841355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What I find especially interesting is how they explicitly decided to design the site like a startup's. I always think it's cool when philanthropy learns from commercial enterprises." < 1334195984 543312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1334196063 602450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Seems pretty clear they’re breaking with the crappy, poorly designed webpages open source software—especially anything having to do with networking or security—often have. < 1334196063 780479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :These guys understand: how something is presented matters too; not just how well the code works." < 1334196072 824594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard kmc reference this but i had no idea < 1334196077 916617 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1334196092 544962 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god our hipster startup aesthetic has finally reached those tragically un-cool academics < 1334196098 373327 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they realize that we're deliberately making fun of them < 1334196112 790774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really hate twitter bootstrap because I can tell without fail whenever anything is using it < 1334196116 670257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like Blueprint was a few years ago < 1334196127 295280 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1334196184 831185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the idle time for WHOIS, what things are counted? For example, do NOTICE messages count? < 1334196240 956107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi sent me a NOTICE message, and it seem not count. < 1334196255 378155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is there a way to artificially slow my connection down, i wanna see mosh's prediction :'( < 1334196270 24437 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net NOTICE #esoteric :how about this < 1334196283 665147 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net NOTICE #esoteric :nope, and whois neither < 1334196292 426721 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, run mosh-server in valgrind < 1334196300 943050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: That didn't count either; the idle time increased < 1334196315 634874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you think I'm installing valgrind on solidity? < 1334196315 966611 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/netem < 1334196321 595043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1334196324 776094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I can bounce the connection a bit < 1334196329 649465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh solidity ssh dinky ssh solidity ssh dinky ssh solidity ssh dinky ssh solidity ssh dinky ssh solidity ssh dinky ... < 1334196333 845430 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1334196351 686144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is useful that NOTICE messages don't count < 1334196351 863421 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424ed.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334196373 690138 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably to do with the nature of privmsg/notice < 1334196392 423216 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice is generally for responding to privmsg to avoid loops, at least with ctcp < 1334196398 885736 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm sure the server protocol existed before ctcp < 1334196415 516797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Doesn't the program "ettercap" have a feature to slow down the internet? (I think I read something about this in 2600) < 1334196443 221690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how http://esolangs.org/wiki/Timeline_of_esoteric_programming_languages stops at 2005 < 1334196447 804950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, modulo the future.) < 1334196456 228812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ettercap rings a bell < 1334196871 843120 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1334197039 972588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, #haskell is explaining monads again. < 1334197327 791880 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel.me is great < 1334197385 321596 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, are they also inside-joking? < 1334197409 669765 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean saying "#haskell is explaining monads again" is like saying "it's cool and slightly foggy in san francisco" < 1334197431 781871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No, they weren't. I managed to rescue the poor guy, though :P < 1334197436 740076 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1334197449 97783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so quadraphonic. < 1334197515 965804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Anyway, I thought California was hot all the time. < 1334197538 298433 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard that california is actually a very large state with a range of climates < 1334197554 476895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonsense. < 1334197580 765592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refuse to devote 50 times the memory space to the USA than I would to any other country. < 1334197588 71203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore California is just hot all the time. < 1334197600 695470 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty funny to see confused tourists in SF shivering in a t-shirt and shorts < 1334197612 873849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1334198146 568377 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1334198426 392902 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334200006 21903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: HELP I CAN'T STOP MYSELF MAKING SNARKY C++ COMMENTS < 1334200009 493917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELP!!!! < 1334200026 409796 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try drugs < 1334200084 149039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1334200090 3410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw what happened to monqy. < 1334200160 475282 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi is the worst drug < 1334200242 366589 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-144-161.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1334200349 361600 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-237-36.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334200454 156583 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1334200522 335251 :MDude!~fyrc@67.232.226.20 NICK :MSleep < 1334200627 54915 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :debugging a C++ type mismatch error using git diff --word-diff on logs < 1334200730 314300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1334200769 304368 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334200792 867741 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1334200793 301968 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1334200793 462651 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1334204483 117217 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1334205151 383126 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424ed.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1334205151 861783 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db4ed87.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334206404 166377 :Case1!~Dr._Danee@adsl-98-82-8-161.jax.bellsouth.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1334206418 107273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1334209281 378772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me what your idea of this type system I have idea of (for Ibtlfmm, not for Haskell; but similar). I will describe some of its features so that you can complain about it properly. < 1334209289 540495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing is the kind (*(x) -> {x} -> *) meaning a type taking two parameters, the first is an ordinary type and the second is a value of that type in braces. (For example if the type having this kind is called X then the type (X Int8 {15}) is of kind *) < 1334209310 31419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A more complicated example is (*(x) -> *(Class1 x y => y) -> {Succ y} -> *) (note: where Succ is the equivalent of Haskell's Maybe) < 1334209386 521137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there are still the other built-in kinds + @ & and so on, and the user-defined datakinds < 1334210322 298349 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1334210331 56348 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any innovative paradigms invented recently? < 1334210364 37049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I don't know. < 1334210563 448227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how recently is recently and how innovative is innovative < 1334210566 966723 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a paradigm < 1334210588 188881 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how are they invented < 1334210757 392222 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1334210887 640612 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you should invent innovative programming < 1334210928 286525 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( recently is 50 years. innovative is that you could write a whole book about the new paradigm. i'm not sure what a paradigm is, ergo not sure how they are invented ) < 1334210999 518667 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^80 years < 1334211511 884841 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334211653 314863 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you almost got me < 1334211705 390655 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Don't you want to party? < 1334211716 937210 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tonight is party night, and the party is a hi party < 1334211757 219758 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1334211804 547580 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You can quit hi any time. But when can you go to a hi party? < 1334211815 199285 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's right, only now. < 1334211823 797564 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. < 1334211833 4715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When are you going to go to a lo party? < 1334211886 663831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of type system idea I have written? < 1334211889 372988 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what'ts a hi party jk i know what a i had enough hi party last night < 1334211903 407139 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwoops i misdeleted my tetxt < 1334211931 257743 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "enough hi" :( < 1334211941 925907 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would your own mother think of you < 1334211952 355789 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she would probably think "hi monqy" and you wouldn't think "hi" back < 1334211983 117718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :she'd never think "hi monqy"; she dsoesn't know im monqy < 1334211985 732507 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :she does ntknow < 1334212223 782477 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy woulld she thinkt "hi william" < 1334212228 456034 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probalbuluy. < 1334212273 99682 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probabley < 1334212377 644440 :zuelfda!~dzuelfida@180.244.163.91 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334212414 350994 :zuelfda!~dzuelfida@180.244.163.91 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334213673 265969 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334214172 40078 :Case1!~Dr._Danee@adsl-98-82-7-14.jax.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334215253 586088 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A8C8.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334215302 204128 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334215312 764962 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1334215406 626543 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Ngevd < 1334215423 313343 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's happening in THE WORLD OF ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING!? < 1334215485 830869 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Ngevd < 1334215494 945827 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1334215746 79367 :Case1!~Dr._Danee@adsl-98-82-7-14.jax.bellsouth.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334215879 295532 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in stage 3 of Brainfuck Island stomping on corrupt mushrooms. < 1334216427 812320 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck Island? < 1334216449 57803 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a level in Mario. < 1334216469 23656 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A8C8.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334216483 367751 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334216507 559093 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334216900 849176 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334216987 743552 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words it is Brainfuck Island in name alone.. < 1334217129 136231 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember them using the word "fuck" in mario < 1334217208 805319 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah even wario wouldn't say that. i wouldn't put it past waruigi though < 1334217214 143909 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a crossover with Call of Duty: Modern Warfare < 1334217401 971608 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mariofuck < 1334217424 553998 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obligatory http://plumberplace.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/image_70.jpg < 1334217625 353530 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-170-57.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1334217668 902449 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1334217972 680789 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc that looks scary < 1334218598 225596 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1334218929 454798 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1334218929 860539 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1334218930 20753 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1334218979 857210 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334222630 359489 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1334223375 710222 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1334225409 567789 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A8C8.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334228124 42354 :atrapado!~ttt@167.84.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1334228699 705368 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334228720 793625 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1334228725 544395 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This seems the best place to ask this < 1334228738 957584 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having some trouble installing a driver on Windows 98 < 1334228821 921400 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The SETUPASSISSTANT.EXE fuke is linked to missing export KERNEL32.DLL:GetUserDefaultUILanguage." is the error I get when I try to run the setup application < 1334228877 658118 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any advice or referrals? < 1334228914 41176 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... that OS. < 1334228923 613897 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is 14 years old. < 1334228925 774382 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let it go. < 1334228958 681120 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want it to be useful < 1334228987 119830 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that it's Windows precludes that possibility already. < 1334229012 652471 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's looking at me, with those big, sad eyes. < 1334229021 857395 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying, "I want to be useful" < 1334229026 108629 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please make me useful" < 1334229034 319300 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Like I was all those years ago" < 1334229050 507865 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nostalgia. It was never useful. < 1334229083 966407 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ssshhh! < 1334229088 179137 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doens't know that! < 1334229107 364744 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it doesn't, but I don't have to hush. It is too stupid to understand. < 1334229139 965949 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm rampantly anthropomorphizing, but still. < 1334229159 24986 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't make it boot from CD, so it's either this or have a hefty box to get rid of < 1334229258 741593 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have a floppy drive? Bootable? < 1334229281 284509 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And wired network? < 1334229287 368017 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a floppy drive, but it's the only device I own with one < 1334229292 446127 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no wired network < 1334229302 679941 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then to the trash with it! < 1334229304 811037 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012! < 1334229314 134836 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a DSL port, but is way too far from a DSL cable < 1334229331 74243 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1334229373 267844 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An idea I have just had! < 1334229592 936252 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334229636 810804 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334229860 831082 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't work... < 1334230135 492223 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334230227 419506 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334230420 177944 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1334230693 28152 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A8C8.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334231031 295280 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it win98 second edition? < 1334231036 552814 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe so < 1334231049 603097 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1334231064 188454 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even have a freaking clue what the difference is but i just know SE is better! < 1334231614 273921 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Isabella" is the most popular name for female newborns in the US. < 1334231615 802282 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wut. < 1334231849 254743 :cheater_!~cheater@p57AEAFEC.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1334231864 812536 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334231913 258918 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334231927 439111 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1334232081 96980 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334232093 641912 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334232122 601167 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net NICK :Ngevd < 1334232359 41682 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1334235442 961366 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-169-49.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1334235475 361160 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-199-5.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1334235613 746478 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1334236521 523942 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-219-166.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1334236593 965030 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-169-49.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1334236614 782404 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-233-197.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334237248 261662 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-233-197.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1334237457 904816 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-229-129.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334238665 867814 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1334239327 435019 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334239331 534254 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1334239347 79912 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have arrived in an alternate universe where I own a copy of Rome: Total War < 1334239533 18189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you planning to play it? < 1334239537 582159 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1334239685 482974 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes just being in the right universe is enough, y'know. < 1334239727 657384 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he would if his net connection started working < 1334239950 936711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it require a network connection? it's a singleplayer game < 1334239954 994227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mostly < 1334239967 70878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm reasonably sure I've played it on a non-internet-connected machine < 1334239996 889685 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.... you're right < 1334240023 53960 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anything, his flailing connection might motivate him to play it < 1334240286 253411 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334241280 861444 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1334241866 886337 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1334241867 275663 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1334241867 436280 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1334241911 874219 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334242349 197359 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334242732 207267 :cheater!~cheater@g230220031.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1334242839 153645 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1334242869 178480 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1334244305 916668 :cheater!~cheater@g230220031.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334244443 961597 :rod_!~ttt@69.77.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1334244451 832776 :rod_!~ttt@69.77.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com NICK :atrapado < 1334244959 182907 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334245125 524093 :cheater!~cheater@p50897FE5.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334245833 428288 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334246962 524539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334247225 399845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1334248025 910412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@John L: Can you give an example where STM will avoid extra work that can not be avoided using IORefs? – Clinton 17 mins ago < 1334248034 579039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: This guy CANNOT BE STOPPED < 1334248313 966357 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1334248845 649402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that "replacement for SSH" wording + "uses SSH for login" is really confusing people < 1334249466 526777 :boily!~boily@modemcable235.198-70-69.static.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1334250377 977473 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have any of you ever taken a look at F#, by the way? < 1334250388 530421 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must admit I only glanced at it once < 1334250391 523883 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was learning Haskell < 1334250403 974268 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's OCaml. < 1334250410 490597 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334250420 175416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Not true. < 1334250425 733397 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it's OCaml.NET < 1334250444 307414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Exactly! < 1334250451 291985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: It's the only way you can make OCaml's standard library worse. < 1334250458 605406 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1334250545 891878 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, I love C# <3 < 1334250609 651123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Is "<3" a new-fangled sarcasm mark? < 1334250682 381672 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is supposed to depict the bubbly behind of a woman < 1334250696 114209 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do love C#, I wasn't being sarcastic < 1334250712 651012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, very funny. < 1334250732 63563 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there actually are some theories that the heart symbol is derived from that < 1334250738 502412 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Others say it's from that plant < 1334250743 830768 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not entirely clear < 1334250750 237629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm talking about But I do love C#, I wasn't being sarcastic < 1334250799 810249 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ do you still think I was being sarcastic? I have grown very fond of C# recently < 1334250809 869607 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to be opposed to it because I thought its portability sucked < 1334250810 435252 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C# rocks! < 1334250814 389041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's literally impossible for anyone to like C# non-ironically. < 1334250816 574645 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol I live in Karlsruhe < 1334250823 517763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, unless your point of comparison is Java. < 1334250831 269463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, the lambdas and LINQ stuff are nice too. < 1334250833 132568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's still C#! < 1334250878 932350 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ran more tests with Mono on my Linux servers and it worked quite flawlessly for the most part < 1334250892 946147 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised by how you could just feed it any Visual Studio compiled binary < 1334250921 922449 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I ended up changing my mind and I've been quite productive this past month < 1334250969 361809 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I'm maintaining a C# open source project that actually has a considerable share of MacOS and Linux users < 1334251041 239354 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1334251125 214940 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than the fact that it's a fairly dreary language (i.e. it's just not that interesting), my fear is that Microsoft are basically a bunch of dicks, and so will become sue-happy eventually. < 1334251139 203784 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :See for example: Oracle vs Google "lol Java runs everywhere except when we decide to sue you" debacle. < 1334251173 201372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to give them credit for the LINQ stuff, but only because they stole it from Haskell. < 1334251181 538762 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1334251238 944057 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe "lol" should be the next Internet idiom I quit. < 1334251250 240089 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm living a very happy and successful life without the tongue face smiley. < 1334251263 263966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has mastered the art of using "lol" sparingly. < 1334251278 861600 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1334251279 198780 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-2.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1334251279 359283 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1334251340 878460 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334251345 350747 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1334251358 402949 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs [<]elliott> lol < 1334251359 100866 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:19:00] See for example: Oracle vs Google "lol Java runs everywhere except when we decide to sue you" debacle. < 1334251363 299775 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? I'm not familiar with this case < 1334251369 385685 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Care to elaborate? < 1334251391 179885 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the Microsoft vs. Mono thing, I thought they were on amicable things now < 1334251394 324255 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least pre-Xamarin < 1334251396 238371 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1334251424 357119 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, amicable *terms < 1334251428 219241 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Oracle sued (is still in the endless process of suing) Google over vague Java-related patent infringement in Android. < 1334251442 708252 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I totally missed that < 1334251448 755553 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, put differently, "you implemented our language intended to be implemented everywhere, so we're suing you" < 1334251460 307906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On the basis of "as there's only one way to implement these really trivial methods, you clearly stole them from us") < 1334251471 31798 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they supposedly implemented some proprietary JVM technology? < 1334251473 652086 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I certainly don't believe Microsoft is above such things, and I even more certainly don't believe that their current relationship with Mono has any relevance whatsoever. < 1334251488 978897 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: The exact details are (naturally) fuzzy, but that's the gist. < 1334251509 504083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Because they supposedly copied code from the standard library. < 1334251516 738943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: "intended to be implemented everywhere" <-- you forgot "by us" < 1334251521 690795 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, the lawsuit is over patents, not copyrights. < 1334251525 216886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it is? < 1334251535 786308 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1334251560 585383 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means it's far more insidious. And squirrely. And flat-out evil. < 1334251571 301967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you'd know about that second-last one. < 1334251589 585382 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeeeeeed. < 1334251612 697273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because he has SQUIRREL in his nick name! < 1334251622 301977 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :On what legal basis could Microsoft leash out against Mono? < 1334251707 431566 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The C# language definition and the CLI are standardized under ISO and Ecma standards that provide reasonable and non-discriminatory licensing protection from patent claims. However, Microsoft uses C# and the CLI in its Base Class Library (BCL) that is the foundation of its proprietary .NET framework, and which provides a variety of non-standardized classes (extended I/O, GUI, Web services, etc.). < 1334251723 700283 :cheater_!~cheater@p4FFB0536.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334251723 956319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_(software)#Mono_and_Microsoft.27s_patents. < 1334251730 523186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they have agreements with Novell making such action unlikely, I believe. < 1334251765 920264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Mono-will-be-destroyed-by-MS-patents people tend to be conspiracy theorists. < 1334251776 46733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was that blog again... < 1334251792 303275 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The concerns primarily relate to technologies developed by Microsoft on top of the .NET Framework, such as ASP.NET, ADO.NET and Windows Forms (see non-standardized namespaces), i.e. parts composing Mono’s Windows compatibility stack." < 1334251801 39125 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that doesn't sound like an issue < 1334251805 478133 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who cares about those! < 1334251814 984283 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually know some Mono ASP.NET developer < 1334251822 580619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, where is that insane blog :P < 1334251846 32706 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is also possible to run mono on android, i think you cannot do that with haskell! < 1334251852 37601 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1334251856 918129 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can < 1334251868 108922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC has a working iPhone port. < 1334251869 689529 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe doesn't Android pretty much enable you to run arbitrary binaries? < 1334251872 276297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Android port mostly works too, as I understand it. < 1334251876 268226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHCi doesn't run on ARM yet, though. < 1334251878 447884 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, sounds like it < 1334251889 839589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the bindings to the Java GUI libraries aren't there yet. < 1334251891 652324 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does GHC have an AMD64 version for Windows yet? < 1334251893 810900 :cheater!~cheater@p50897FE5.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1334251895 507342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's no inherent obstacle. < 1334251897 770775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Dunno. < 1334251898 510533 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back when I was doing Haskell it didn't < 1334251963 500336 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/1884 < 1334251966 71294 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opened 4 years ago < 1334251975 494521 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I remember igloo < 1334251980 951978 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I talked to him on freenode < 1334251999 920871 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A working mingw64 port, which doesn't exist yet." ohhh < 1334252002 432599 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I totally forgot about this < 1334252038 642493 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "The 64-bit mingw probably works now", said spj 2 years ago < 1334252048 745429 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1334252081 953934 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the primary obstacle for things like that is always finding someone who cares enough to do it < 1334252104 367721 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I actually talked to devs about this < 1334252109 622634 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said it's quite an adventure to do this < 1334252152 604140 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :And involves a complicated multi-stage bootstrapping process where components are partially translated with an existing GHC on another platform to generate C out of that < 1334252170 424587 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then it's compiled using a C compiler for the target platform < 1334252182 139426 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that < 1334252186 492320 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounded like a nightmare anyways < 1334252399 487513 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last I checked, mingw64 works quite well. < 1334252460 631665 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1334252490 171813 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :They will gladly port GHC to random phone XYZ < 1334252490 696474 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, modulo the fact that it's Windows-related, and thus does not work by definition. < 1334252502 355139 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for Windows... no interest! < 1334252518 711411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :64-bit Windows is kiiiind of a niche market. < 1334252527 716603 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1334252535 766496 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: [Sponsored by Microsoft Research] < 1334252687 803504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, I think this is the insane anti-Mono site: http://techrights.org/?stories < 1334252698 357317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure though < 1334252764 501823 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, D. < 1334252766 326044 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D, D, D. < 1334252769 294086 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why you gotta, D? < 1334252770 865882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :D < 1334252794 807515 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D is a language so good it made me leave it and learn to love C again. < 1334252821 245362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if Esolang should really be linking to a site that contains things like http://detain.me/tools/aimspem.php. < 1334252833 722328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Anyway, why'd you bring up D :P < 1334252845 613888 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because people were talking about C# *shrugs* < 1334252903 870970 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, is it officially C#, or C♯? < 1334252925 150658 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the pronunciation is C♯, but then Apple pronounces 'X' as "ten" so *eh* < 1334252957 174567 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As opposed to "decem", PEDANTS) < 1334252965 635167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's C#. < 1334252987 349958 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feh. C Octothorpe. < 1334253050 906674 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish elliott would stop appending dots to URLs < 1334253071 180765 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Requires me to manually copy URLs to open them :'( < 1334253095 760910 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:49:18] (As opposed to "decem", PEDANTS) < 1334253100 260243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Appending dots where? < 1334253104 674287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1334253106 565974 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: you have to finish the sentence with a dot, and spurious whitespace makes you look stupid < 1334253107 938621 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, most of them would fail to pronounce that properly, too < 1334253109 675422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I write sentences, man. < 1334253118 788252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I like how that sentence didn't end with a dot. < 1334253130 11470 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I mean... "stupid ." < 1334253174 593751 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, I don't speak in sentences anyway, I speak in lines < 1334253200 82199 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :The classical Latin DECEM was probably pronounced [dE"ke~] < 1334253223 26036 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most would probably erroneously pronounce it with an [m], heh < 1334253354 552551 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woops, the second vowel should be long, I think < 1334253364 81623 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :[dE"ke:~], there < 1334253613 697068 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1334253882 492597 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always add spurious whitespace when there's a URL or email address at the end of a sentence. < 1334253887 231094 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's unambiguous. < 1334253894 903328 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, it's not even spurious whitespace, it's only grammatically spurious. < 1334254080 962469 :atrapado!~ttt@69.77.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1334254254 686192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: It's ugly :( < 1334254264 477045 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waaaah. < 1334254281 337866 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: In your last line, you used ":(" as your punctuation, and had a space before it. < 1334254353 298301 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plenk ! < 1334254361 399839 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334254816 762363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DevHC_ is such a huge raging asshole jesus christ < 1334254898 215904 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread "raging" as "rotating". < 1334254900 54962 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was confused. < 1334255545 50085 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think you just don't appreciate the expressiveness. < 1334255565 393161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I like how dmwit told me to stop and not DevHC. :( < 1334255572 205149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@sclv is right; Haskell typeclasses are much closer to OOP interfaces than OOP classes, but even that analogy isn't perfect. In fact, the closest thing to OOP classes in Haskell are simply data types containing functions and monadic actions. – ehird 15 mins ago < 1334255572 602548 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1334255572 762790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ehird Not really. – Marcin 13 mins ago < 1334255573 136680 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1334255577 287814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been LOGICED < 1334255604 549150 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you know geekosaur == allbery_b? < 1334255622 298808 :dbelange!~dbelange@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know _why == Cale? < 1334255631 658656 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1334255633 570570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I keep realising that and then forgetting it later. < 1334255671 298114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone who says the exact same things as me for like five minutes gets on my Good Person List, though. < 1334255682 58136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cue shachaf copying my lines verbatim for the next five minutes. < 1334255722 869451 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've already said the exact same things as you for five minutes. < 1334255749 48652 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm pretty sure anyone "shachaf" `isInfixOf` whose nick gets off your Good Person List. < 1334255749 571396 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost said hi shachaf what is wrong with me < 1334255754 603465 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334255757 45695 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1334255772 433846 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: It's very natural. < 1334255789 384416 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone wants to say hi shachaf once in a while. < 1334255806 106698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Are you referring to five-minute periods of silence? < 1334255827 334691 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also to the times when we were both saying sense to someone in #haskell who was saying non-. < 1334255830 689690 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember those times? < 1334255836 513073 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those were the times, man. < 1334255849 576827 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :libmonqy.so.1 < 1334255882 102915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :accepts answer -> 10 minutes pass -> "I think I need to digest this some more :) – Peter Hall 4 secs ago" -> de-accepts answer < 1334255883 73981 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :How come there are seemingly so many people who talk about Haskell but no high profile projects other than maybe GHC itself? < 1334255884 40324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1334255895 595929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Because that's a stupid lie. < 1334255913 41808 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because haskell isn't practical < 1334255918 639738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's xmonad and darcs, for one. And Yesod, Snap, Happstack. < 1334255928 988999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you think libraries can't count as buzz, cf. Ruby, Rails.) < 1334255933 192352 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah I know all of those actually < 1334255936 780697 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Uh-oh. < 1334255936 940516 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used Yesod and Snap < 1334255941 242403 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just didn't consider them high profile honestly < 1334255953 737327 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Google now autocapitalizes letters at the beginning of a search. < 1334255955 784187 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think xmonad is the highest profile one out of those < 1334255963 310241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, how many famous Ruby things can you name off the top of your head, if you're not paying attention to the Ruby community? < 1334255963 980675 :dbelange!~dbelange@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody actually uses xmonad < 1334255970 947497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Ruby/pretty much any language/ < 1334255971 571530 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not always, but if you have an existing Google search and press Esc and then type something new... < 1334255981 706625 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know two or three people who use it < 1334255982 113022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell gets most of its use in internal corporate junk, I think. < 1334255983 294575 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbelange: I don't use a window manager, so I would know < 1334255985 32393 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's evidence enough for me < 1334255992 67113 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: TWITTER = THE FUTURE < 1334256004 547583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: [status-norepro] < 1334256010 132929 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott Rails, Github? < 1334256023 544657 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must admit I'm not good with this though < 1334256025 781932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Okay, that's two. Twitter also counts. < 1334256044 298257 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I don't really know what most of them use < 1334256045 946061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since we have 6 for Haskell, that doesn't seem bad, considering Haskell is rather less popular (at least on the internet) than Ruby. < 1334256052 529501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can think of like 5 more for Ruby, though.) < 1334256056 410234 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was just recently that I discovered about the history of Reddit, for example < 1334256059 428093 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common Lisp -> Python < 1334256067 344921 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Facebook is PHP + MySQL :\ < 1334256069 414476 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://rubyonrails.org/applications < 1334256094 320856 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol I don't know any of those < 1334256095 899423 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Did I ever mention how Ruby === Rails.) < 1334256096 953959 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for Github < 1334256101 543533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Funny you should mention that, because Facebook use Haskell. < 1334256103 442846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To transform PHP code. < 1334256107 100349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also have a PHP compiler thing in Haskell < 1334256110 10912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Haskell. < 1334256122 746362 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Their PHP-to-C++ compiler isn't in Haskell... < 1334256123 370129 :dbelange!~dbelange@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boycott haskell < 1334256128 932417 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf haha, every time I say I did something in Ruby I add "(not Rails)" < 1334256129 891892 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, they use Erlang for the chat, right? < 1334256131 768454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Maybe I mean their virtual machine or something. < 1334256134 613016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1334256139 58136 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they use CL or Scheme for anything? < 1334256139 485563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have multiple PHP things in Haskell. < 1334256146 307108 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think there's anything. < 1334256150 67612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Eh? < 1334256169 800590 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have one PHP thing in Haskell. Which they probably don't even use anymore. < 1334256186 906313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear it was two. But okay. < 1334256194 965199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Facebook uses some Haskell internally for tools. lex-pass is a tool for programmatically manipulating a PHP code base via Haskell." < 1334256197 972638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, "tools", plural! < 1334256206 801894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Large, bloated Javascript framework with an unintuitive, verbose syntax and very few features. Browsing its inelegant, poorly written source is an unwelcome experience." -- description of Facebook project < 1334256208 919401 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf yeah < 1334256228 412563 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the Facebook frontend was pretty much fully written in plain PHP < 1334256232 466721 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea about the backend < 1334256250 426752 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's surprising enough that they still use MySQL < 1334256266 642484 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the only big site I know that uses it < 1334256272 765970 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hisql < 1334256274 1301 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1334256276 474249 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334256284 668009 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Reddit used Postgres < 1334256362 891128 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is that a poem < 1334256370 974369 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Google AdWords uses it... < 1334256374 403884 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1334256387 217107 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so does Wikipedia. < 1334256393 922651 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You tell me. < 1334256456 975979 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have expunged my poem sense, none remains < 1334256469 265885 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, Wikipedia is the second big fish with MySQL under the hood < 1334256493 556491 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AdWords is kind of a big fish. < 1334256730 564705 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does MediaWiki only work with MySQL? < 1334256736 833539 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1334256743 454972 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't support any other DBMS afaik < 1334256767 190491 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the traditional horror of PHP and MySQL < 1334256803 384820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... < 1334256811 739526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: You're just pulling that out of your ass, right? < 1334256836 781696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: MediaWiki supports MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, SQLite, and IBM DB2. < 1334256845 464809 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close enough! < 1334256849 500454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: MySQL has the best support, followed by either PostgreSQL or SQLite, I forget which. < 1334256852 520686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other two are experimental. < 1334257123 726236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How do I make ssh-agent only ask me for my password on the first ssh login? < 1334257620 248636 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1334257850 408478 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1334257857 19675 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334258660 436775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is there a faster way of getting (n .&. 255, n `unsafeShiftR` 8)? < 1334258673 35739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1334258698 313426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1334258706 346133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1334258943 395483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (-1234) .&. 255 < 1334258944 364666 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variable `a' in the constraint: < 1334258944 587790 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `Data.Bits.Bits a' < 1334258944 748713 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a... < 1334259163 193583 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (-1234) .&. 255 :: Int < 1334259164 211632 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 46 < 1334259299 913472 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334259349 693920 :MSleep!~fyrc@67.232.226.20 NICK :MDude < 1334259360 550232 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1334259669 998918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Ye olde reboote < 1334259719 206981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Is there a faster way of getting (n .&. 255, n `unsafeShiftR` 8)? :( < 1334259817 69144 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it compiles to a mov and a shift then no :-P < 1334259864 923488 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe fromIntegral is faster than the .&., if you're storing it in a Int8/Word8 < 1334260064 7702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1334260074 755213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Nope < 1334260079 619852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Hmm < 1334260084 548631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I could separate that fast path out < 1334260178 427284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turning < 1334260179 645407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reifyIntPtr :: IntPtr -> (forall s. ReifiesIntPtr s => Proxy s -> r) -> r < 1334260179 805933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define GO(n) reifyIntPtr n k = k (Proxy :: Proxy CAT(T,n)); < 1334260179 806171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYTES(GO) < 1334260179 806282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#undef GO < 1334260179 806390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reifyIntPtr p k = < 1334260180 658096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : reifyIntPtr (p .&. 255) (\a -> < 1334260182 649321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : reifyIntPtr (p `unsafeShiftR` 8) (\b -> < 1334260184 692907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : k (liftA2 (,) a b))) < 1334260186 680301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :into < 1334260188 645598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reifyIntPtr :: IntPtr -> (forall s. ReifiesIntPtr s => Proxy s -> r) -> r < 1334260190 671978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reifyIntPtr p k < 1334260192 669411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : | p < 256 = reifyByte (fromIntegral p) k < 1334260194 667454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : | otherwise = < 1334260196 674074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : reifyByte (fromIntegral p) (\a -> < 1334260198 673214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : reifyIntPtr (p `unsafeShiftR` 8) (\b -> < 1334260200 676590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : k (liftA2 (,) a b))) < 1334260202 677723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : where { < 1334260204 684034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : reifyByte :: Word8 -> (forall s. ReifiesIntPtr s => Proxy s -> r) -> r; < 1334260206 685281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define GO(n) reifyByte n k = k (Proxy :: Proxy CAT(T,n)); < 1334260208 687904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYTES(GO) < 1334260210 691453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#undef GO < 1334260212 695537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reifyByte _ _ = undefined; < 1334260214 726912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1334260216 721616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I dunno if that'd do anything < 1334260249 422272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/users/1097181/ehird?tab=reputation YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS < 1334260326 833395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Take that, team Trondheim! < 1334260347 330765 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 186 points < 1334260423 893754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE 20,001 < 1334260427 620674 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 1 < 1334260442 390030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S 20,000 LESS THAN ME < 1334260453 63639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, now I really want to lose 1 rep. < 1334260458 77774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And keep it like that. Forever < 1334260462 85475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*. < 1334260884 12291 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Stackoverflow history is shameful < 1334260916 593660 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at 11 and my profile even contains questions about HTML < 1334260935 137709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "That's mitigated by laziness (only the parts of the tree you actually look at get constructed), " < 1334260941 106520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just does all Haskell all the time. < 1334260944 774406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr Map is spine strict < 1334260953 753573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, right. < 1334260959 618714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Remind me to edit that later. < 1334260978 163464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Edit "That's mitigated by laziness (only the parts of the tree you actually look at get constructed), " < 1334260978 597734 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1334260985 495946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1334260986 17395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1334260993 61164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, can someone figure out whether http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Tiny&curid=1810&diff=31902&oldid=30619 is valid and make the necessary adjustment :P < 1334261013 27771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : case eqWord# a1_a2zI (__word 0) of _ { < 1334261013 188305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> < 1334261013 188481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : case eqWord# a1_a2zI (__word 1) of _ { < 1334261013 188588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> < 1334261013 188693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : case eqWord# a1_a2zI (__word 2) of _ { < 1334261014 41268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> < 1334261016 66148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : case eqWord# a1_a2zI (__word 3) of _ { < 1334261018 36706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> < 1334261020 64956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : case eqWord# a1_a2zI (__word 4) of _ { < 1334261022 90693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> < 1334261024 71886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : case eqWord# a1_a2zI (__word 5) of _ { < 1334261026 73837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> < 1334261028 76024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : case eqWord# a1_a2zI (__word 6) of _ { < 1334261030 78297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> < 1334261032 80269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooooly shit < 1334261034 82244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC < 1334261036 89256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are much < 1334261038 111932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :better ways to do that < 1334261038 822496 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice core < 1334261059 987344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets better < 1334261065 826936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> < 1334261065 987992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : case eqWord# < 1334261065 988194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : a1_a2zI < 1334261065 988303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (__word 32) < 1334261067 833924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : of _ { < 1334261070 837574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> < 1334261073 838988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : case eqWord# < 1334261076 842161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : a1_a2zI < 1334261077 858707 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this really necessary? < 1334261079 846590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (__word 33) < 1334261082 871428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : of _ { < 1334261085 856265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : False -> < 1334261087 169419 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how far does it go? < 1334261088 859307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : case eqWord# < 1334261091 863321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : a1_a2zI < 1334261094 915176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (__word 34) < 1334261097 873574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1334261099 622566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott_ Edit "That's mitigated by laziness (only the parts of the tree you actually look at get constructed), " < 1334261099 846354 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BAN ELLIOTT < 1334261100 6826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Margins? What margins? < 1334261100 167014 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1334261101 875400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolutely. < 1334261103 877828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Up to 255 < 1334261105 896101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It ends up at one word per line. < 1334261107 884027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't use that nick :'( < 1334261109 898883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much. < 1334261160 682983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well it should be late enough then :P < 1334261169 348925 :Loupca!Loupca@ALyon-156-1-26-77.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1334261174 732281 :Loupca!Loupca@ALyon-156-1-26-77.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1334261176 11664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome Loupca < 1334261177 139363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1334261178 39923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Loupca < 1334261185 47863 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loupca: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1334261186 387171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would hate to give the impression i'm personally welcoming someone, naturally < 1334261205 354950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: TOO LATE < 1334261213 925273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your reputation is _ruined_ < 1334261215 972165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY REPUTATION!!! < 1334261217 106676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1334261270 667682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi Loupca) < 1334261281 517270 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it no longer "hub of witchcraft and occultism"? < 1334261294 497704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: because April 1 passed, hth < 1334261308 264453 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: you might be looking for #esoteric on dalnet < 1334261315 411083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1334261318 886736 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1334261392 557538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP SAYING "S00N" AAAARGH < 1334261401 157095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, there's someone new here. < 1334261411 567460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION resolves to make marginally more sense for the next 10 minutes. < 1334261429 480232 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more* sense? why? < 1334261439 118313 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Egad. < 1334261444 509353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s4y 14T3R inst34d < 1334261453 636619 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :.......... < 1334261456 88507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what http://sprunge.us/MbYN is. < 1334261494 151000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: wat < 1334261509 568369 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: looks like an absentError < 1334262074 523241 :Loupca!Loupca@ALyon-156-1-26-77.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr PART :#esoteric < 1334262145 17634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Loupca. < 1334262188 228726 :boily!~boily@modemcable235.198-70-69.static.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7 < 1334262248 847693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2493 / 200 < 1334262249 874528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12.465 < 1334262258 338821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1334262373 625802 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I just realised, I've never actually investigated what kind of SQL interfaces the Haskell people came up with < 1334262386 764300 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine it's like a more sophisticated version of Linq < 1334262519 413150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Alas, not really < 1334262542 624240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad comprehensions are new and monasd don'ta llow the kind of introspection you need to do something like that nicely < 1334262615 320038 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1334262623 887026 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they've been using raw SQL strings? < 1334262626 783890 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am very disapointed < 1334262634 582898 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was expecting some overengineered solution < 1334262647 902714 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which allows overly condensed expressions < 1334262657 528748 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :In native Haskell syntax without any strings at all < 1334262673 584595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not raw SQL strings. < 1334262689 975177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not universally, at least. < 1334262793 522446 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are computery people so opposed to capitalization, I wonder. < 1334262814 31666 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is so special about haskell compared to scheme for example? < 1334262814 465389 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a backlash from THE DAYS OF COBOL WHEN EVERYTHING HAD TO BE ALL CAPS? < 1334262832 833094 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel how are they opposed to capitalisation? < 1334262843 562424 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at us, we are computery people and we capitalise properly! < 1334262844 585986 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Consider for example your nick. < 1334262855 621789 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Consider for example names of 99% of projects in the F/OSS world. < 1334262855 781975 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :My choice in names is atypical < 1334262865 692103 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually I capitalise full nick names < 1334262881 43987 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :This, however, is a cryptic short string from a Semitic root < 1334262889 378143 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Then look beyond yourself, look at all the nicks on this channel. Me and my bots account for nearly every capitalized nick. < 1334262889 755107 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I chose when I stopped using centralised names on the internet < 1334262898 441110 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now use about 30 different names, one for each service < 1334262935 385989 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently I use 4 two or three letter nicks on IRC < 1334262939 240473 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: Kind of unrelated to my point ;) < 1334262941 249898 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of which are lower case < 1334262945 114858 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one longer upper case nick < 1334262957 404317 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, initial capital < 1334262964 232970 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all caps < 1334263107 699761 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So aaaaaaaaaaanyway. My point still stands, that in general computer folks eschew capitalization. Even if they capitalize sentences properly, proper names are rarely capitalized, and sometimes defiantly decapitalized even when sentence-initial. < 1334263184 301484 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started switching to UpperCamelCase in my project names when I switched to C# < 1334263197 307567 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Ruby projects mostly-used-this-notation < 1334263207 56629 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my C++ days I was using this_notation < 1334263220 319648 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :For both names in the code and project names < 1334263283 964386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: for a start, the irc nick in irssi is by default the same as the username, which historically did not work well with upper case in it (i think using upper case for the username triggered a caps-only terminal mode?) < 1334263388 992964 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: And most of those who don't use irssi or choose not to use the default nick will still choose an all-lower name. You're shaving a tiny corner off of a more fundamental issue. < 1334263413 706925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: it may be entrenched tradition, is what i'm saying < 1334263415 533817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capitalisation is ugly. < 1334263430 718560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I would guess that the Unix days, or just before that, is when it came about. < 1334263439 828474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Remember that there wasn't an upper/lowercase distinction for quite a while. < 1334263450 679168 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, but when there wasn't, EVERYTHING WAS UPPER CASE. < 1334263462 247734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Yes, but once you get case distinction, with your entrenched single-case habits, do you call yourself KEN or ken? < 1334263464 311831 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is it a backlash from THE DAYS OF COBOL WHEN EVERYTHING HAD TO BE ALL CAPS? < 1334263470 253276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know which I'd pick. < 1334263485 66304 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, in short, "yes" is your answer to that question ;) < 1334263495 503473 :cheater_!~cheater@p4FFB0536.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1334263569 550228 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334263572 885721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Ngevd < 1334263577 316353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :team hexham just hit 20k < 1334263577 861077 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1334263583 936891 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear god < 1334263593 133513 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Team Hexham exists < 1334263620 208689 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, our dear friend NSXQ seems to have forgotten the existence of talk pages < 1334263744 334701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not NSQX. < 1334263754 509796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a start, his IP isn't in the 200s any more. < 1334263757 743673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a start, it was never that :) < 1334263758 516615 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it isn't < 1334263778 611421 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's NSQXesque < 1334263882 39878 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what's the context to team hexham? < 1334263921 518865 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the Courant has is "War declared on pigeons" < 1334263929 786086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/users/1097181/ehird?tab=reputation < 1334263941 93042 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that one < 1334263955 374530 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I haven't upvoted you since you got passed 20 < 1334264003 329835 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1334264003 490759 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does everybody knows haskell in this channel? should i really lean it? < 1334264012 717030 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's up to you < 1334264022 828305 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a nice language that I enjoy using < 1334264026 875917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not everyone does! Just the most active people :P < 1334264036 65268 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But everyone is different, so you may not enjoy it < 1334264042 166525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you do decide to learn it, http://learnyouahaskell.com/ is probably the best way.) < 1334264048 238324 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(amen to that) < 1334264082 910561 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a quirky language, when compared to the vast majority of languages < 1334264090 643748 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even other functional ones < 1334264105 48957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nubBy(((>1).).gcd)[2..] < 1334264106 914495 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29,31,37,41,43,47,53,59,61,67,71,73,79,83,89,97,101... < 1334264142 77202 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is that... < 1334264142 635513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh < 1334264148 173487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dons is back in the game < 1334264149 361223 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an infinite list of all the primes? < 1334264153 475478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1334264160 278701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1334264176 937874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip oerjan < 1334264183 171318 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The assassins of C++ have killed him < 1334264209 323776 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:53:24] why does everybody knows haskell in this channel? should i really lean it? < 1334264211 954597 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, don't bother < 1334264225 908483 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe you still haven't reacted to me mentioning that I live in Karlsruhe, by the way < 1334264240 204305 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a student? < 1334264241 397081 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Karlsruhe: the new Hexham? < 1334264250 149300 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ONLY TIME WILL TELL < 1334264256 774625 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSC = looser club < 1334264275 250405 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looser than what? < 1334264286 279489 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :than any other club < 1334264296 213202 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah < 1334264304 816450 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :looser in tightness of winningness. < 1334264312 615594 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then surely the superlative would be more appropriate? < 1334264317 237836 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, "loosest club" < 1334264346 267705 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1334264352 269808 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah probably < 1334264374 508891 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=hexham%2C+karlsruhe%2C+helsinki < 1334264379 386846 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham's still the densest < 1334264388 871419 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\n -> 2 * n^2 + 11) [0..10] < 1334264390 136150 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [11,13,19,29,43,61,83,109,139,173,211] < 1334264407 621622 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe yes, I'm a student < 1334264413 701114 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "loser", by the way < 1334264421 200690 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless someone here lives in a town with less than ~6000 people?) < 1334264458 125267 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: my english is really bad < 1334264481 430019 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlsruher_SC ah < 1334264484 3225 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I just use ssh-add. < 1334264510 414542 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe I have no interest in sports < 1334264530 691767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :( < 1334264531 188102 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "faster" in what sense. < 1334264540 612906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the sense of SPEED. < 1334264544 431621 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh. < 1334264547 278807 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: what do you study? < 1334264554 55124 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computard science < 1334264558 878469 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too ^^ < 1334264559 966372 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 7 months to go for my MSc < 1334264564 247927 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm going to not read all the scrollbacklog and just assume that you managed to solve it. < 1334264568 305623 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "computer", by the way < 1334264573 783005 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: However, there *is* a way. < 1334264574 821264 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could have been done in about 3 months from now but I'm being so lazy right now < 1334264581 12750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I... sort of did. < 1334264584 942710 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that because Ubuntu gives you a fancy GUI by default. < 1334264590 48646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1334264593 528376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1334264597 494025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were talking about the faster thing. < 1334264602 885546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's GNOME's ssh-agent. < 1334264606 199362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a different implementation. < 1334264607 327707 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe Diplom or BSc/MSc? < 1334264615 414825 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- 12th semester < 1334264622 975702 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK. < 1334264631 395686 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: BSc at the HSKA < 1334264643 35873 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :semester = half a year? < 1334264645 406708 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1334264646 668441 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6th Semester < 1334264648 844604 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what HSKA is < 1334264651 382386 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at KIT < 1334264654 524111 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1334264656 478001 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1334264659 465285 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :HSKA = FH? < 1334264660 709470 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there monqy < 1334264661 241396 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1334264663 535936 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've finished my degree but would be my 8th < 1334264684 339753 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :University of Applied Sciences http://www.hs-karlsruhe.de/en/home.html < 1334264687 409175 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if that's really appropriate anymore since i don't really take any classes < 1334264699 283927 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-95-110.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334264862 896036 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: 12th? 4 yeas oO < 1334264876 937163 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :4? < 1334264887 19883 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi < 1334264888 547331 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes most people 13 semesters to finsih this degree < 1334264905 945561 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people are idiots < 1334264921 24980 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1334264933 120044 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no incentive to work any harder honestly < 1334264968 251629 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that 13 semesters in real time, or 13 semesters of studies? < 1334264968 451182 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know somebody who did it in 11 < 1334264970 29772 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my incentive was to get my degree fast. < 1334264972 206853 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's about as low as you can go < 1334264978 731607 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :He got 100% in every exam < 1334264985 586125 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's doing his PhD now < 1334264995 453983 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my degree usually takes 12 semesters, and i did it in 6 < 1334265008 787181 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1334265019 472524 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :100%? cool < 1334265026 579162 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I am currently on my 16th semester < 1334265039 835137 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner 13 semesters of real time I think < 1334265050 578322 :cheater!~cheater@g230220031.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1334265053 758689 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been told you pretty much cannot get 100% when percentage grading is used < 1334265057 153823 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in most universities < 1334265065 957296 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't use percentage grading < 1334265079 585752 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a variety of bizarre German systems < 1334265079 896591 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well i have the best possible average too < 1334265083 514529 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of which make any sense < 1334265089 438537 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we just have a scale from 1 to 5 < 1334265123 611346 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've gotten a few things wrong on exams < 1334265134 252732 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is 1, 1.3, 1.7, 2, 2.3, 2.7, 3, 3.3, 3.7, 4.0 and 5.0 < 1334265142 772105 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 being the best < 1334265144 98586 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see :D < 1334265145 273805 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :5.0 failed < 1334265147 356474 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes no sense < 1334265164 923775 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be the silliest thing i've ever heard < 1334265168 440150 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a clever ruse to keep people from caring too much about grades < 1334265176 91127 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hey, I've never failed an exam and my grades are 1.7 - 2 mostly < 1334265188 863647 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've failed one exam < 1334265195 401116 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :basic computer skills. < 1334265208 563067 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mostly just hanging out at home < 1334265224 963210 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overeating, pursuing my addiction to video games and series < 1334265233 790554 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Occasionally doing a bit of coding or making music < 1334265242 987543 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't attend of any the lectures honestly < 1334265249 899443 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that as "doing a bit my cousin" < 1334265252 829122 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped doing that after one semester < 1334265271 547499 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was like wtf < 1334265274 708300 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been pretty much consistently skipping all of them for 4 years < 1334265277 351323 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the grammar was just horrile < 1334265280 702233 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*horrible < 1334265295 359719 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.81 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334265306 188423 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I still believe that I have learned pretty much nothing that is of professional relevance to me, lol < 1334265311 997624 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hey, it's better than working < 1334265317 268171 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I get money for this, so < 1334265328 910731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1334265329 629625 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to attend lectures nowadays because it's just us 3 ppl giving the course to each other :( < 1334265346 577716 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they would notice if i skipped it < 1334265358 572049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1334265379 244820 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan, what's up and how high? < 1334265398 511120 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334265408 280112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the andromeda galaxy, about 2 million light years < 1334265413 272483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The high oerjan. < 1334265434 284927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm no longer in oerjanland now.) < 1334265442 79497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Isn't that what it's called?) < 1334265447 879799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1334265457 891136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you escape my devious snow trap < 1334265473 40315 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some other Norwegians helped us to push the car out. < 1334265477 478616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(True story.) < 1334265484 787928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1334265499 271187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also two other groups were all "what the what kind of car this is, it doesn't even have the rear hook". < 1334265504 571401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was a city kind of car.) < 1334265510 818620 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how do you know one of them wasn't oerjan? < 1334265519 208445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't, really. < 1334265532 535455 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's a bit suspicious < 1334265560 331923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles mysteriously < 1334265577 579385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were two places called Bø in Lofoten, we were kind of wondering how they disambiguate those. (The road signs to Å said "Å i Lofoten", but that doesn't work for the two Bøs.) < 1334265607 400354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure of this < 1334265626 131646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reasonably, though we did not take photos of the signs. < 1334265633 204142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they could've meant something else. < 1334265646 299492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they looked very similar to the other signs that were unmistakably place names. < 1334265659 402820 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.81 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1334265662 973789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I kept mentally-pronouncing "bobil" like the English "mobile", except with 'b'. < 1334265679 903469 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because they are unmistakable doesn't mean you necessarily unmistake them. < 1334265681 428565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: note that Vesterålen is _not_ Lofoten, despite being sort of part of the general area < 1334265687 319664 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just means you can unmistake them. < 1334265717 596759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, it could be something like that. The second Bø was more nearer to the mainland, I suppose. < 1334265735 434818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it was somewhere between Svolvær and Kiruna (in Sweden), that's about all I know. < 1334265775 731920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B8 has rather a lot in Nordland & Troms :P < 1334265799 557644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You sure like your Bøs. < 1334265820 184869 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Mono will ever gain a status like JVM in terms of being targeted by other programming languages < 1334265850 873583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe only the Vestvågøy one counts as Lofoten < 1334265859 816308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qfr: .NET already is. < 1334265864 280430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf. IronPython etc. < 1334265917 783470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1970 kilometres was the whole Kemi-Kiruna-Svolvær-Henningsvær-Uttakleiv-Hamnøy-Reine-Å-Moskenes-Hamnøy-Vikten-Nusfjord-Krystad-Hamnøy-Kiruna-Kemi trip. (Skipped some midway stops there.) < 1334265921 81143 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah true, I just realised those probably already work with Mono < 1334265932 144005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there _do_ seem to be several in Vesterålen... < 1334265950 706463 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you walk? < 1334265969 980003 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: Not much. < 1334266000 413067 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i just meant that trip < 1334266002 40055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never walked. < 1334266009 414017 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not your extracurricular activities < 1334266025 188420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walking wasn't included in that number, anyway, since it came from the car's distancometer. < 1334266035 206697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whatsitcalledometer. < 1334266039 582404 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you used a car < 1334266040 369335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odourmeter. < 1334266049 110409 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called ameterometer < 1334266053 914272 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a meterometer < 1334266115 974534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I zoomed maps.google.com to the general region where we were, and wrote "Bø" in the search field. It showed me the borders of Bolivia. < 1334266152 987047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think this whole "show the borders" thing is new-ish.) < 1334266158 879732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bølivia < 1334266286 250211 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/lolphp/comments/ps6x5/0x0_wat/ < 1334266326 493136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fancy < 1334266428 619380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the views, I kinda liked that one beach most. It kinda had a funny combination of "one of those warm places down south" sand-beach, and then the snow: http://zem.fi/~fis/beach.jpg < 1334266458 395859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the most Finnish beach ever. < 1334266472 305267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most Finnish beach in Norway. < 1334266493 361874 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't have anything as mountainy as those things that come out of the water, really. < 1334266502 77296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/lolphp/comments/s6kqy/when_references_go_bad/ heh < 1334266505 602956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, same thing. < 1334266506 996923 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott yep < 1334266509 631892 :qfr!~kafir@unaffiliated/yw PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one was disturbing < 1334266628 717484 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334266652 625468 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MintChip misses the point of digital currency" < 1334266672 851992 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you're a fan of starting your own currency independent of government... < 1334266682 9550 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say the article misses the point of MintChip < 1334266689 104151 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/04/12/mintchip-misses-the-point-of-digital-currency/ < 1334267374 167018 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1334267741 868893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1334267943 197006 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1334268261 519453 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334268475 260656 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1334268706 702808 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B133E4F.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 11.0/20120312181643] < 1334268992 950597 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1334269452 847576 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1334271677 322618 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1334271709 695278 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1334272872 468461 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :const < 1334273845 336209 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1334274795 371113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1334275048 852381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer