< 1333411202 576609 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: LYING SCOUNDREL < 1333411417 422224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: By the way, PayPal works without an account. < 1333411424 155188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I bet they still won't promise to not keep your credit card on file. < 1333411747 590524 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :prgmr also offers prepaid cards at conventions, so you could just road-trip 'round from convention to convention buying cards from 'em :) < 1333411780 272613 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65.183.136.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333411818 811849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a silly plan that could work, would be to find a UK-based provider, then get a new debit card, and then FOIA away the old one from their files < 1333411825 555086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's a nomic-scam-level of legal silliness < 1333411872 405431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: I'm sure ais523 has a moral objection to roads. Or conventions. < 1333411874 699774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or cards. < 1333411881 611332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or offerings. < 1333411882 879137 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or paying. < 1333411914 820973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, I found a VPS that allows you to pay by cheque < 1333411921 14760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it has to be made out from a French bank, in euros < 1333411931 264066 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... people have che{ck,que}s? < 1333411952 132796 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my life I have literally never once written a check. < 1333411959 535684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if their other terms are legal < 1333411966 857744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: neither do I, because I don't have a chequebook < 1333411973 607195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, I've requested them printed for me a couple of times at the bank < 1333411975 370519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is this another one of those update lists I can't get off of? < 1333411982 606908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1333411987 547742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, like the tab=8 list? < 1333411991 239428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1333411998 532280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's your fault for having an incorrect opinion < 1333411999 59352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I suppose that is another example, yes. < 1333412005 603622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not the one I was thinking of. < 1333412011 833227 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : however, I've requested them printed for me a couple of times at the bank // yes, this I've done too. < 1333412034 413131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheques are more common here than in the US, I believe. < 1333412053 802876 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is funny since you don't even know how to spell the word *ba-dum lame* < 1333412156 424846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I thought they were more common in the US < 1333412170 893894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this place also offers 3 and a half nines SLA, it's the highest I've seen < 1333412179 100504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a budget VPS provider < 1333412183 239058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's all reasonably meaningless < 1333412222 865711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Actualy, 365ezone _don't_ autocharge. < 1333412227 98473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And allow you to pay by credit card. < 1333412233 822003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just checked their "Terms & Condition" (singular). < 1333412236 55914 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed ;) < 1333412238 787387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't promise not to store the card, though. < 1333412248 871808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I don't believe they qualify for the status of "VPS provider". < 1333412251 523856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like "VPS peddlar". < 1333412259 908222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*peddler < 1333412270 966553 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hey! They are best having cheap VPS for good hosts! < 1333412455 10725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, there are actually impossible restrictions in this ToS < 1333412460 862155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as preventing the IP ending up on a spam blacklist < 1333412472 544190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is reasonable, but in theory the spam blacklist people can do what they like < 1333412474 841738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes in practice too < 1333412489 363951 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what ToS ais523 is looking at now ... < 1333412514 429568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gandi's < 1333412517 971149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gandi.net < 1333412520 976512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took a bit of work to find it < 1333412576 927448 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know what pisses me right the eff off? < 1333412582 524471 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc.so has been owned for a year now with no content. < 1333412624 685022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://libm.so//?gtnjs=13334125907ba0f6ec9971d6d063c918e391bfc4c1 < 1333412650 263127 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: YEAH I DON'T OWN THAT ONE EITHER THANKS FOR REMINDING ME < 1333412692 873813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: But it's for sale! < 1333412714 692956 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not libc :'( < 1333412797 183719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Can you write my PHP for me? < 1333412850 231507 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :libf.so returns pings < 1333412854 528513 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1333412873 751945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Can you write my PHP for me better? < 1333412917 440005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: What's the best nickname for a bot that parrots Esolang recentchanges in here? < 1333412968 370306 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :libk.so looks like this: http://libk.so < 1333412978 998442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :esolan < 1333412979 881006 :esolan!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :esolang < 1333412990 336436 :esolang!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is available. < 1333413003 51913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could consider "solidity", unless we have too much of that already < 1333413033 299386 :esolang!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :solidity or esolang? < 1333413044 661712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"esolang" is simpler, at least < 1333413055 801116 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :solidity is more fun :) < 1333413159 336152 :esolang!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, esolang for now < 1333413209 253461 :esolang!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1333413226 400307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, gandi's ToS is really reasonable in most respects < 1333413236 328004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If this message is spam, please contact support@freenode.net with a full copy." --freenode < 1333413246 212236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spam blacklist thing is the only weird bit, and I guess it's OK to just make a best effort to comply with it < 1333413253 246934 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65.183.136.231 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1333413261 562593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and that's presumably for the purpose of anyone impersonating them having to add it too < 1333413283 821291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect it's for people who spam registrations to an address < 1333413288 765831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still funny < 1333413311 146245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that MediaWiki's recent-changes streaming support is based on UDP? < 1333413322 633047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1333413331 379448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because they can't just run a daemon, they have to do it in a PHP script which has to terminate quickly, so they just send a UDP packet < 1333413363 51786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense < 1333413369 283828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good port? < 1333413371 48200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UDP's designed for that sort of thing < 1333413377 95892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :port number? port of a program? < 1333413423 147686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :port number for the UDP server I'll run < 1333413433 925606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm going to write a Perl program to receive the UDP requests and forward them to IRC) < 1333413438 373982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want it root-owned or high? < 1333413444 39539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, it should be able to use a unix socket < 1333413464 210673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: either is fine; latter is probably preferable, as I can just run the bot as my user < 1333413469 502623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not have to deal with privilege-dropping code < 1333413477 443271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, less likely to step on toes < 1333413499 410845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just pick a random number, probably < 1333413511 416886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go on, then. < 1333413529 418653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :21757 < 1333413534 774371 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually random, I just ran a randomizer) < 1333413581 652768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a power of two _or_ a prime! < 1333413723 327836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's the best prime? < 1333413971 419266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's the best prime? < 1333413976 187717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's the best prime UK ISP? < 1333413993 521221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not sure if I can think of any numeric ISPs < 1333414024 990431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1333414025 168367 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Tue Apr 3 01:47:01 < 1333414036 893107 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1333414038 948507 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ion is Tue Apr 3 03:46:46 2012 < 1333414043 991078 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shall have to create a new ISP: 2^2-1 < 1333414051 132059 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 2 < 1333414052 718513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What's the best prime? < 1333414058 16428 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's the only even prime. < 1333414058 229669 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does lambdabot know that? By GeoIP? < 1333414069 286575 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :By asking. < 1333414081 639140 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, i should have looked at the status window. :-D < 1333414095 898998 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Objectively? http://primes.utm.edu/curios/page.php?number_id=953 < 1333414107 932987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I think gandi meet all my criteria for selecting a VPS provider, which is great < 1333414111 819154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'll go look for an even better one < 1333414118 540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did RocketJSquirrel suggest again? < 1333414124 551122 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: FTFY: 2²−1 < 1333414127 945605 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: :-( < 1333414136 951669 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Tell ion to take me off /ignore. < 1333414152 951058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, "CAPTCHA" is derived from "capture"? < 1333414158 948527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Over 1024. < 1333414162 300153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, 365ezone.com < 1333414164 946760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, it's an acronym < 1333414165 652120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's over 1024. < 1333414166 477492 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 365ezone is best deal for quality VPS serving time < 1333414168 327974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: He wasn't suggesting it. < 1333414176 591131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The term "CAPTCHA" was coined in 2000 by Luis von Ahn, Manuel Blum, Nicholas J. Hopper, and John Langford (all of Carnegie Mellon University). It is an acronym based on the word "capture" and standing for "Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart" < 1333414182 518338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Acronyms are sometimes contrived, that is, deliberately designed to be especially apt for the thing being named (by having a dual meaning or by borrowing the positive connotations of an existing word). Some examples of contrived acronyms are USA PATRIOT, CAN SPAM, CAPTCHA and ACT UP." < 1333414197 480653 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: $2^2-1$ < 1333414239 92944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they, umm, have a specific Minecraft server option, how ridiculous < 1333414243 507226 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I heard NetHack 4.2.0 was released. < 1333414256 923516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How is that ridiculous? < 1333414257 630116 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the potheads rejoiced? < 1333414259 921266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Setting Bukkit up is annoying. < 1333414265 71638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if you've never used Linux. < 1333414273 716875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm amazed that it's a large enough market for it to be worth money to be in < 1333414307 330782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Seriously? Over 5 million people have bought Minecraft. < 1333414308 389544 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time do_you_take_a_parameter < 1333414314 562450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's made Notch a multi-millionaire. < 1333414322 149453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's had its own bloody conference in Vegas. It's huge. < 1333414336 830032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*convention < 1333414339 299268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference??? < 1333414341 90987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Con, con, all the same. < 1333414354 826178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*condominium < 1333414367 454110 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would totally buy a Minecraft condominium. < 1333414398 249187 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft is one of the top 10 best-selling PC games by now, isn't it? < 1333414402 782651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a Minecraft condom? I HAD TO GO THERE OK. < 1333414412 977426 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time preflex < 1333414413 724671 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for preflex is 2012-04-03 00:53WHERE IS SARAH CONNOR? < 1333414446 836477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell randomRIO (1,1) < 1333414453 278269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell randomRIO (1,2) < 1333414457 777199 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/runghcXXXX18901.hs:1:1: \ Parse error: naked expression at top level < 1333414458 453722 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/runghcXXXX18945.hs:1:1: \ Parse error: naked expression at top level < 1333414460 125346 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Minecraft conscription. If you live in Vegas, there's a decent chance you'll get conscripted into the Minecraft army. < 1333414468 870921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Laaame < 1333414471 558131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main = print $ randomRIO (1,2) < 1333414473 617928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main = print $ randomRIO (1,2) < 1333414474 146265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main = print $ randomRIO (1,2) < 1333414474 498562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main = print $ randomRIO (1,2) < 1333414476 524894 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/runghcXXXX19041.hs:1:16: Not in scope: `randomRIO' < 1333414478 745264 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/runghcXXXX19132.hs:1:16: Not in scope: `randomRIO' < 1333414479 870848 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/runghcXXXX19145.hs:1:16: Not in scope: `randomRIO' < 1333414480 32349 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/runghcXXXX19146.hs:1:16: Not in scope: `randomRIO' < 1333414480 497413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1333414491 103254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import System.Random; main = print $ randomRIO (1,2) < 1333414493 41708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import System.Random; main = print $ randomRIO (1,2) < 1333414496 189801 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/runghcXXXX19259.hs:1:8: \ Could not find module `System.Random' \ Use -v to see a list of the files searched for. < 1333414498 436274 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ /tmp/runghcXXXX19265.hs:1:8: \ Could not find module `System.Random' \ Use -v to see a list of the files searched for. < 1333414503 891108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: You're fucking kidding me. < 1333414514 380498 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Randomness is for losers. < 1333414521 107959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :365ezone do not inspire me with confidence about their competence < 1333414539 469525 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 365ezone having best deals for VPS in your good hosting service! < 1333414543 920940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the prices are very low by comparison to some other places < 1333414562 347102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have a really weird list of things that they ban (roleplaying games on shared servers, for instance) < 1333414563 138925 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pay $20/yr for glogbackup. < 1333414600 219103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know Adam Chlipala is banned from #haskell???? < 1333414601 980896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do! < 1333414603 744034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did. < 1333414603 919722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: is it on a shared server? or a master server? < 1333414615 395709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :backups are also against the TOS on shared servers, for reasons I can't figure out < 1333414626 337474 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time ubuntulog < 1333414627 393710 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ubuntulog is Tue Apr 3 00:56:36 2012 < 1333414646 26235 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Smerdyakov? Yep. < 1333414657 899146 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyone can make lambdabot flood anyone with CTCP TIME queries? Someone should try that with one of Freenode’s ircops. < 1333414658 778668 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you know I've met Adam Chlipala IN REAL LIFE!!!!? < 1333414660 405839 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: VPS < 1333414662 136722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: See, I knew Smerdyakov is banned from #haskell. But I had no idea who that was. < 1333414667 504838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I knew who Adam Chlipala was! < 1333414675 870574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then someone said they were him and I was like whooooaaaa but he seems so cool. < 1333414677 104306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The end. < 1333414684 337380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: @time Plazma < 1333414693 19827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(^^^ AWESOME SUPER-GREAT REFERENCE) < 1333414700 829597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was Plazma, right? < 1333414702 772433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget their nick. < 1333414730 621722 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Please tell me you realize I am not suggesting you actually use 365ezone X_X < 1333414730 782313 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:51 What's the time where you are? < 1333414735 14106 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:58 03:58 < 1333414741 718119 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: ah, OK < 1333414747 138400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your opinion of them, anyway? < 1333414766 595666 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That was proprietary information you just leaked. < 1333414811 443243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude Math.NumberTheory.Primes.Testing System.Random> let pick = randomRIO (1024,65536) >>= \p -> if isPrime p then return p else pick < 1333414812 499511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HERE WE GO < 1333414825 776633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :8147. That's a nice port. < 1333414827 300939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anything use that? < 1333414857 878772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: google it? < 1333414897 902904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like shoogle it < 1333414906 205563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IANA's port assignments are apparently in XML form. < 1333414927 377381 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense, you can conveniently process them with XSLT. < 1333414940 222459 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1333414959 179246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@downforeveryoneorjustme http://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.xml < 1333414959 339807 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1333414962 781958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hlep < 1333414962 942290 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: help let slap < 1333414965 960016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slep < 1333414966 119799 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION orders her trained monkeys to punch < 1333414972 203991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me 2 < 1333414996 930615 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap self < 1333414997 91123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go slap self yourself < 1333415006 673115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slep lambdabot < 1333415006 841765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps lambdabot with a slab of concrete < 1333415009 324835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slep lambdabot < 1333415009 485360 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will count to five... < 1333415010 737611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slep lambdabot < 1333415010 898210 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION places her fist firmly on lambdabot's jaw < 1333415015 849870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouche < 1333415018 498368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slep lambdabot < 1333415018 659732 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SMACK*, *SLAM*, take that lambdabot! < 1333415021 319756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slep lambdabot < 1333415021 479914 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't perform such side effects on command! < 1333415022 907546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slep lambdabot < 1333415023 68191 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather not; lambdabot looks rather dangerous. < 1333415026 85659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1333415073 759645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott@solidity:~$ nc -u -l -p 8147 < 1333415073 941047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=31735&oldid=31734 5* 03Ehird 5* (+13) 10test < 1333415074 466220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1333415117 24986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's POE like < 1333415119 358179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : cpan < 1333415125 361586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: POE = ? < 1333415157 45321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you sockets in perl help thanks < 1333415161 539861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :poe = http://poe.perl.org/ < 1333415169 80549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not sure I've ever tried < 1333415244 120480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you sneckets in perl thenks < 1333415465 433116 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1333415486 720598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that didn't work < 1333415489 17831 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333415509 902944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1333415512 904724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1333415555 135408 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1333415565 208791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't it work :/ < 1333415574 750165 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333415601 340558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, hmm < 1333415626 545225 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1333415634 246711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dsfkjsdflksdf < 1333415634 842980 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333415641 551412 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1333415647 918184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtffff < 1333415651 448373 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333415662 428179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why does my bot not work :( < 1333415674 841952 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your bot lambdabot? < 1333415680 663690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1333415783 86225 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The answer is: Because it's lambdabot. < 1333416200 630975 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333416244 715684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NICK esolang < 1333416244 914549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :USER esolang 8 * :Esolang recent changes bot, see http://esolangs.org/ < 1333416244 914656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOIN #esoteric < 1333416244 914702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=31744&oldid=31743 5* 03Ehird 5* (+7) 10 < 1333416246 870416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why wouldn't this work? < 1333416250 930331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, I honestly can't tell. < 1333416256 151157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answers from someome other than shachaf please. < 1333416320 341784 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think you can have spaces in the realname? < 1333416322 309196 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you write it in Haskell? < 1333416328 681991 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be wrong. It joined the channel, so I'm probably wrong. < 1333416338 193878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have spaces in teh realname < 1333416344 120585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get an error message back? < 1333416347 888915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it wouldn't be much of a realname without < 1333416352 157412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, that privmsg just gets dropped < 1333416356 219964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it keeps receiving messages < 1333416367 170677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that the privmsg has ansi codes in but i've piped it to cat -v and it still doesn't work < 1333416374 644727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it /looks/ correct < 1333416403 245268 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you try getting rid of the ANSI codes? < 1333416428 820468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : note that the privmsg has ansi codes in but i've piped it to cat -v and it still doesn't work < 1333416431 297097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same fucking line. < 1333416453 188717 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat -v considered harmful < 1333416498 813547 :esolang!esolang@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:6da8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333416508 122165 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=31744&oldid=31743 5* 03Ehird 5* (+7) 10 < 1333416510 854293 :esolang!esolang@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:6da8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=31744&oldid=31743 5* 03Ehird 5* (+7) 10 < 1333416511 120983 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1333416511 476793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Get that out. < 1333416522 378416 :esolang!esolang@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:6da8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1333416529 985716 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1333416530 145612 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a privmsg < 1333416535 201015 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nope, your IRC isn't broken. < 1333416544 999402 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333416577 284992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now it's acting like it's missing the trailing newline. < 1333416581 727413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except adding "; echo" doesn't help either. < 1333416594 105633 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Add a new line with QUIT at the end? < 1333416598 310310 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1333416598 471366 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a privmsg < 1333416629 846761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OK. < 1333416630 552470 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333416641 312507 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1333416641 472399 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a privmsg < 1333416645 547303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quit. < 1333416651 194173 :esolang!~esolang@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333416668 185499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NICK esolang < 1333416668 363764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :USER esolang 8 * :Esolang recent changes bot, see http://esolangs.org/ < 1333416668 523895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOIN #esoteric < 1333416668 524093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG #esoteric :a privmsg < 1333416669 599172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1333416677 815063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG #esoteric :a privmsg < 1333416677 990998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1333416678 150776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG #esoteric :^C14[[^C07Esolang:Sandbox^C14]]^C4 ^C10 ^C02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=31749&oldid=31748^C ^C5*^C ^C03Ehird^C ^C5*^C (+1) ^C10^C < 1333416678 150974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUIT :outta here < 1333416684 342808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With two blank lines before the QUIT. < 1333416695 265086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why it doesn't say anything before I hit enter. < 1333416710 319722 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you try \r\n?! < 1333416739 738868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know for a fact that freenode doesn't require \r. < 1333416763 991362 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's true! < 1333416966 197580 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you try \n\n?! < 1333416980 74701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh. < 1333417051 53434 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: How are you sending these commands, exactly? < 1333417053 781932 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's buffering. < 1333417058 902155 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you typing them in nc in the terminal? < 1333417134 171623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(echo "PASS $(cat esolang-bot-password)"; echo 'NICK esolang'; echo 'USER esolang 8 * :Esolang recent changes bot, see http://esolangs.org/'; echo 'JOIN #esoteric'; echo 'PRIVMSG #esoteric :a privmsg'; while true; do nc -u -l -p 8147 | sed 's/^/PRIVMSG #esoteric :/'; echo; echo; echo 'QUIT :outta here'; done) | cat -v | nc irc.freenode.net 6667 < 1333417311 42876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1333417311 254604 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Tue Apr 3 02:41:47 < 1333417474 894643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time shachaf < 1333417475 247891 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Mon Apr 2 18:44:04 2012 < 1333417486 811499 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's clearly the best bot X-D < 1333417635 927808 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that while true for? < 1333417711 993046 :esolang!~esolang@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1333417712 153574 :esolang!~esolang@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a privmsg < 1333417717 624560 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang: hi < 1333417722 389334 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome esolang < 1333417725 800576 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME ESOLANG < 1333417725 960982 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1333417729 269631 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESOLANG: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE < 1333417795 681982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : What's that while true for? < 1333417799 737442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It disconnects after receiving a UDP message. < 1333417802 736027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :disconnects = exits < 1333417802 896545 :esolang!~esolang@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333417820 437648 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so what's it for? < 1333417826 860807 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind, I don't feel like debugging IRC bts. < 1333418109 369743 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to facepalm at Conservapedia < 1333418118 564784 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The theory of an old universe is contradicted again, this time by discovery of planets that formed "at dawn of universe." [1] How many counterexamples to an Old Earth does an atheist need in order to start opening his mind?" < 1333418128 786086 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The [1] links to http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0330/Planets-found-at-dawn-of-universe-but-their-existence-is-a-mystery < 1333418138 74882 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they even READ the articles, or just use the headlines? < 1333418146 854256 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that is, admittedly, perhaps a misleading headline < 1333418202 869490 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO: csmonitor.com lol < 1333418270 859971 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc CS Monitor is actually decent despite the name < 1333418287 421241 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You recall wrong. < 1333418319 884007 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*You recall wrongly. < 1333418328 753087 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRAMMAR NAZI TO THE RESCUE! < 1333418371 29102 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stephen Fry would like to have a word < 1333418466 113603 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :law of wikis: every subject has exactly one wikia, one non-wikia wiki, and a wikipedia article < 1333418523 636167 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR INSTANCE mlp.wikia.com, mylittlewiki.com, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Little_Pony_Friendship_is_Magic < 1333418577 678809 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, my guess at the non-wikia wiki was wrong X-D < 1333418597 406566 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mylittlewiki.org , and that appears less focused on FiM (i.e. focused on terrible garbage that we should all forget ever existed) < 1333419128 766525 :Mathnerd314!~chatzilla@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1333420549 906012 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I think Creatures follows that pattern < 1333420557 443975 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a very old wiki before the wikia < 1333420576 638435 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1333420636 342323 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's dead now < 1333420760 864922 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: The Christian Science Monitor, contrary to its name, is a relatively well-respected journalistic entity. < 1333420842 545490 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only incidentally related to the Church of Christ, Scientist, and that only because the founder of both believed strongly in good journalism. < 1333420911 164920 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah csm is legit < 1333420924 301105 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333420940 663771 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333421039 165716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't the christian scientists the faith healing peeps < 1333421064 649079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/Ccseal.PNG best logo imo < 1333421067 798270 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they are complete wakos. < 1333421083 398507 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just happens that this has no impact on their newspaper. < 1333421110 516647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the subject being reported about is them, I'd wager < 1333421337 637975 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The church doesn't really have much influence on their writing, and their editors generally aren't Christian Scientists. < 1333421342 222396 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, just found the worst-spelled word in my spelling dictionary. < 1333421347 465366 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"boogieing" < 1333421352 652486 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... I cannot tolerate that spelling. < 1333421382 134141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the correct spelling? < 1333421386 693513 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really a damned odd thing. < 1333421389 233136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :B T W: < 1333421395 770762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been considering switching to en-GB-x-oed. < 1333421398 951939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would y'all disown me? < 1333421404 809444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(y'all is perfectly valid en-GB-x-oed tyvm) < 1333421407 973659 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purely secular reporting by a church. < 1333421408 628002 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: According to my spelling dictionary, "boogieing" < 1333421410 834843 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what else. < 1333421414 442642 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "x-oed" = ? < 1333421429 963667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Sorry, en-GB-oed. < 1333421435 272530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot it was official. < 1333421444 896923 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boogiïng is plausible 8-D < 1333421463 220694 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the Oxford spellings. < 1333421489 423650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Booing < 1333421490 832697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Boogin < 1333421491 716743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Booging < 1333421492 420152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1333421493 792906 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably oed is just "every word anyone has ever written in an otherwise-English context" < 1333421504 255881 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, definitely "booing" < 1333421516 240399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: en-GB-oed is en-GB using -ize suffices. < 1333421520 280096 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: And with the OED-prefered spelling, where there are multiple choices. < 1333421527 244322 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. -ize suffixes. < 1333421531 3453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For etymological and phonetic reasons. < 1333421541 324717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that this only applies to -ize; it's still "analyse") < 1333421572 293670 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's still "programme". < 1333421590 500343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, but I say program anyway >_> < 1333421598 482683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider programme to refer to only the non-computer meanings. < 1333421608 838568 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, OED. < 1333421610 953285 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why you gotta. < 1333421616 517938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9985988/haskell-pattern-matching-disappointed < 1333421618 634716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a fucking moron. < 1333421622 571261 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently that's actually proper UK English. "program" refers to a computer program exclusively. < 1333421629 627312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: "[I]n mod.F. the suffix has become -iser, alike in words from Greek, as baptiser, évangéliser, organiser, and those formed after them from L., as civiliser, cicatriser, humaniser. Hence, some have used the spelling -ise in Eng., as in French, for all these words, and some prefer -ise in words formed in French or Eng. from L. elements, retaining -ize for those of Gr. composition. But the suffix itself, whatever the element to wh < 1333421629 787591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ich it is added, is in its origin the Gr. -ιζειν, L. -izāre; and, as the pronunciation is also with z, there is no reason why in English the special French spelling should be followed, in opposition to that which is at once etymological and phonetic. In this Dictionary the termination is uniformly written -ize. (In the Gr. -ιζ-, the i was short, so originally in L., but the double consonant z (= dz, ts) made the syllable long; when the z < 1333421630 478787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :became a simple consonant, (-idz) became īz, whence Eng. (-aɪz).)" < 1333421640 912712 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because spelling needs to be less consistent. :) < 1333421774 427309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9985988/haskell-pattern-matching-disappointed < 1333421777 258598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel the need to reiterate: < 1333421779 224210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a fucking moron. < 1333421796 889460 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I typed in wrong code and the compiler errored. HASKELL SUCKS" < 1333421991 855657 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the code makes sense in other languages, is I think the point < 1333422034 305209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Tell me not to link that question in #haskell. < 1333422041 787103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so tempted. But then #haskell might get even worse. < 1333422044 430262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? help < 1333422060 99033 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333422068 17074 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-47.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1333422292 452309 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think that is just a troll post. < 1333422298 104206 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need to get annoyed. < 1333422341 564686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I know it is. I'm not actually annoyed. < 1333422365 219230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's therapeutic to call people fucking morons. You should try it sometime. < 1333422379 48382 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O. I thought that you were actually annoyed. < 1333422387 426138 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've never done it in my life. < 1333422413 358994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9985987/t-or-f-tcp-socket-method-is-unsuitable-for-mobile-devices < 1333422415 866200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best question. < 1333422430 746890 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is no good at zzoing. < 1333422452 430521 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a game where a bunch of people pretend to be zzo38 and they get points based on how realistic they are. < 1333422453 666693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: O, is that so. OK. < 1333422457 763430 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could call it a ZZORPG. < 1333422469 871842 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid zzoing is best left to zzo38. At least, I think so. < 1333422498 579883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Astrolog, I see the ecliptic declension is measured in radians. In my opinion, they should have it be any system of measurement, such as SI, metric, or even something you made up yourself, not just radians. < 1333422528 832014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes to think he's quite good at this. < 1333422543 250237 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What's Astrolog? < 1333422558 365732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog Some people are reasonable, some people who are not reasonable insist on changing things so therefore progress depends on not reasonablepeple < 1333422742 679026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my favourite version of that quote. < 1333422816 359573 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good version < 1333422856 683472 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good version" -- monqy < 1333422901 755027 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does zzo38 read logs? < 1333422904 405336 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hi zzo38!) < 1333422912 540440 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38 < 1333422930 203288 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I just realized the answer to my own question. < 1333422935 845088 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only log zzo38 reads is... < 1333422940 991945 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Astrolog < 1333422946 321474 :emcc!~eric@c-76-119-101-151.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333423074 357980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome emcc < 1333423077 26174 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :emcc: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1333423297 680761 :emcc!~eric@c-76-119-101-151.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1333423309 256893 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck, i updated chromium using its internal thingy, and now it's being laggy and dumb < 1333423326 187377 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :browsers have so much code churn that every update fixes some bugs and introduces new ones < 1333423333 596183 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you are happy with your current situation, don't upgrade ;P < 1333423531 976890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "Updated Chromium"? It does that automatically. Oh, Chromium, not Chrome. < 1333423538 898352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Chromium have an internal update thing? I don't think so. < 1333423541 429808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe on Windows. < 1333423545 485460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or OS X, I guess. < 1333423645 48510 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1333423647 676392 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used it < 1333423649 612302 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :foolishly < 1333423679 18784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is it? < 1333423682 167037 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the menu < 1333423683 642657 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's only one < 1333423690 485347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which item? < 1333423696 126174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you could always just tell your distro to reinstall the package :P < 1333423697 67244 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"update chromium" or some shit < 1333423699 259481 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it showed up < 1333423702 46420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no such item. < 1333423702 372130 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah maybe i'll do that < 1333423713 973947 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it showed up < 1333423717 292780 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i had an update ;P < 1333423721 883391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is on 18.0.1025.142, fwiw. < 1333423729 301108 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a user i feel like I'm getting screwed by some dick-measuring contest between google and mozilla < 1333423729 836052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Arch disable the menu item or something. < 1333423739 882144 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish they would stop adding shiny for a while, maybe fix some bugs < 1333423743 816142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome's versioning scheme is reasonable. < 1333423746 819172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox's is not. < 1333423748 916776 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe even (gasp!) maintain a stable tree that gets bugfixes < 1333423757 960863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Erm, Chrome does that. < 1333423760 806257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what all the channels are about. < 1333423762 285782 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1333423770 805114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Your distro might be providing you the dev channel. < 1333423775 747215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine does that, because ARCH BLEEDING EDGE FOREVER. < 1333423795 393755 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had either the best or worst idea ever < 1333423795 570338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's actually stable, beta, dev, canary channels or something like that, and stable is the Chrome everyone on Windows/OS X gets unless they do something special. < 1333423812 521311 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mutters at presentationing < 1333423817 464954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome's versioning scheme works because it doesn't really have "releases", on Windows and OS X it literally just updates silently, you never even see the version unless you look for it... with Firefox they still make a big deal out of every release < 1333423823 224884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just ridiculous with the kind of schedule they go at now < 1333423838 402984 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... < 1333423846 464028 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the stable channel actually gets new bugfixes without pulling every new feature? < 1333423856 155579 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it just an older version on the same linear sequence < 1333423886 856625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, it gets bugfixes. Then it gets the new features periodically. < 1333423891 276002 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one of the problems with voice recognition is that it is really difficult to decontextualize symbols < 1333423895 685263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not just "50 revisions ago", no. < 1333423905 469773 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "join #esoteric" < 1333423910 294811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically Debian testing vs. Debian unstable vs. Debian experimental. < 1333423914 210229 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution is to have verbal escapes < 1333423925 283271 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"join pound esoteric" < 1333423936 365340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, what's a good Unicode character to use to separate lines in a terminal in a linear setting? < 1333423941 755407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ls foo.c bar.c < 1333423963 211440 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a symbol for "carriage return" no? < 1333423974 564637 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :☃ < 1333424016 687739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PFSC updated several times and nobody told me :( < 1333424018 803200 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1333424019 510828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh, yes, I think so < 1333424023 922315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wouldn't LF be more appropriate? < 1333424029 748035 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1333424031 689429 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :␍ < 1333424044 479446 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you all know it to be true < 1333424050 676576 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :␊ < 1333424053 853648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHICH ONE ;_; < 1333424056 172874 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :␊ < 1333424059 350260 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely that. < 1333424068 885991 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :␤ < 1333424069 46252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would a pilcrow be inappropriate? That thing is a little small. < 1333424077 790441 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :↵ < 1333424078 848523 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1333424088 66285 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pilcrow would be inappropriate < 1333424128 873910 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would go with U+244A: ⑊ < 1333424142 688229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh, that's a good one < 1333424147 802576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went with RIGHT ARROW in the end < 1333424153 624984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it was describing a result < 1333424166 654047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's OCR DOUBLE BACKSLASH < 1333424167 715254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so unsemanti < 1333424168 68019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :c < 1333424184 787887 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⑁ < 1333424191 320186 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCR CHAIR < 1333424196 17226 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so semanti < 1333424196 410507 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c < 1333424206 815149 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you know of Fake Unicode Consortium? < 1333424274 793707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1333424303 588697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tyme < 1333424303 753725 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: time type < 1333424306 414848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1333424306 589729 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Tue Apr 3 04:38:23 < 1333424313 470418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, why didn't that work? < 1333424317 588686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does lambdabot *do* to typo-correct? < 1333424338 686392 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@thyme < 1333424338 886459 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: time type < 1333424347 363627 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hi < 1333424350 748855 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tine < 1333424350 909211 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Edit distance of two unless that's ambiguous. < 1333424353 43040 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ion is Tue Apr 3 06:38:40 2012 < 1333424355 865508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Ohh, right. < 1333424361 495678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly babmguity. < 1333424365 562824 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tim < 1333424367 684429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Go to bed. < 1333424368 36788 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for pikhq_ is Mon Apr 2 21:38:55 2012 < 1333424371 786641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tm < 1333424371 946912 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ bf do ft id pl rc thx time v wn < 1333424374 563864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@thx < 1333424374 723867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are welcome < 1333424378 799188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ft < 1333424379 328270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1333424381 249302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1333424386 376407 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: A crapload of homework to finish. It looks like i won’t make the deadline, though. < 1333424410 802196 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So might as well go to sleep. :-P Except that i’ve taken some caffeine. < 1333424550 494345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope time is going backwards now. < 1333424551 731762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tіmе < 1333424553 145997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Tue Apr 3 04:12:03 < 1333424557 733813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1333424577 813794 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1333424579 755735 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do < 1333424584 925837 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to time < 1333424593 400850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just spun the clock backwards. < 1333424668 764417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1333424671 589969 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Mon Apr 2 20:43:58 2012 < 1333424690 508214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1333424691 836997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for monqy is Mon Apr 3 04:24:09 2012 < 1333424698 43896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh. Time goes fast in America. < 1333424715 678280 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333424801 550735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time monqy < 1333424803 737933 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Global time for monqy is Sat Apr 47 11:11:666 2012 < 1333424808 503233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh. < 1333424836 268701 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame it won't hand you Discordian dates. < 1333424855 446693 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is Boomtime, the 19th day of Discord in the YOLD 3178 < 1333425149 584600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: It will if your client does. < 1333425182 129201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time elliott < 1333425182 305329 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is hello < 1333425197 910666 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Perhaps I should run irssi under sdate, then. < 1333425220 681457 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-225-89.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: travels... < 1333425233 991530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1333425312 80787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1333425313 842903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :arch doesnt have sdate < 1333425321 75106 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, arguably Eternal September dates should be fixed... < 1333425328 840584 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AOL stopped providing Usenet. < 1333425330 780122 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ddate < 1333425331 835955 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1333425354 158883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ddate is for losers. < 1333425392 684400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1333425401 538565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1333425404 188943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1333425404 364044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Tue Apr 3 04:56:40 < 1333425407 939222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1333425413 974197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running it under sdate. < 1333425416 487082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid client. < 1333425423 14152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Client Quit < 1333425430 71632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1333425438 199490 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You should ask for your money back. < 1333425467 592440 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elly: You should be named ellyott. < 1333425489 531501 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode took down their apr fools privacy policy page and i never got a chance to read it. can anyone summarize? < 1333425519 135910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was freenode, and it was an April Fools joke, so the chances of it being funny or worth your time are 0. < 1333425525 796105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :H - T - H < 1333425572 805706 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even realize Freenode did an April Fools prank. < 1333425576 976309 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was too busy ponying pony. < 1333425592 236498 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was too busy procrastinating. < 1333425605 756958 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also cmakoing, but mostly procrastinating. < 1333425649 23071 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was too busy derpying flockdraw < 1333425660 611789 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-y < 1333425704 524242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... spent a considerable portion of April 1st trying to work around IE8 being a terrible piece of shit. < 1333425708 105897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realised that now. < 1333425718 143709 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: So you got pranked pretty hard then. < 1333425758 719843 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my grandma was still using ie8.. got her moved over to firefox today < 1333425769 655857 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddate is for lovers < 1333425801 709811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Guess I'll have to block oerjan. < 1333425820 784751 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right. < 1333425860 518230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: I could block oerjan for 1 second, you know. < 1333425862 124875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do that. < 1333426032 611541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Oran This is the bestest article ever < 1333426034 335947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ever. < 1333426157 877008 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you feel the need to correct your punctuation in a sentence in which you used the word "bestest". < 1333426180 866500 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn bestest < 1333426181 394675 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "bestest". < 1333426187 271112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: en-GB-oed-x-elliott < 1333426197 949784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the missing dot changes the tone. < 1333426439 461416 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, monqy shachaf UPDATE. ALSO ALBUM < 1333426453 272645 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shachef automatically removed from update list) < 1333426641 646124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1333426642 470817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1333426645 983723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody gets removed from the update list. < 1333426650 342111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's unfair. < 1333426714 360684 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf didn't really want to be on i < 1333426715 75350 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1333426785 138416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Everybody wants to be on the update list. < 1333426788 851368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cease and desist immediately. < 1333427021 875103 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yay! < 1333427025 755131 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo++ < 1333427037 851317 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@sgeosnack < 1333427038 50828 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1333427095 866985 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1333427107 604417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1333427110 51797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is happy to be on the list. < 1333427144 638397 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm happy to be off the update list. < 1333427170 382616 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also happy for the release of the new albumen. < 1333427374 576742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1333427378 163147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're happy to be on the update list. < 1333427381 554572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Correct shachaf and Sgeo. < 1333427423 743233 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Do you want to be on the update list? < 1333427523 565726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1333427608 88424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TELL ME TO GO TO SLEEP THAnks < 1333427801 35862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1333427804 132649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1333427805 86954 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Tue Apr 3 05:36:41 < 1333427806 523535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1333427837 377537 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: GO TO SLEEP TAnks < 1333427842 269147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1333427849 174911 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAnks < 1333427912 671822 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333427950 830722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : @quit < 1333428053 250034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodbye communism < 1333428054 152423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1333428067 831005 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1333428579 562223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi im bakcc < 1333428619 153744 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you want to be on the update list < 1333428624 477834 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: shachaf wants to be on the update list < 1333429391 1680 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl NICK :asiekierka-David < 1333430024 415175 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1333430422 839128 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333430519 875435 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog I figured out how to use Astrolog to compute the date of Chinese New Year. < 1333431114 213446 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1333431535 429378 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1333431555 835527 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what if i wan't to be be on the update list < 1333431562 987220 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wan't" stands for "want not", by the way. < 1333431669 58697 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't wan't < 1333431682 791077 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what if i dont wan't < 1333431689 672159 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont wan't = don't want < 1333431704 76419 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't dont wan't < 1333431790 791781 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i do dont wan't < 1333431836 751631 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think wrong < 1333431851 988218 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i think wron'g < 1333432633 906522 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1333433597 452546 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1333433859 627359 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:30 * elliott wants to see the programs that generated http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/in_egobot/ais523_anticipation.bfjoust and http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/in_egobot/quintopia_space_elevator.bfjoust < 1333433927 471696 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the standard "defend" code is generated by a very very short matlab program. all the structure and attacky stuff was handcoded. < 1333434409 196803 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfjoust programs are... < 1333434473 82369 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... generated by matlab < 1333435145 301074 :Shyguy33!~Compaq_Ad@96.18.198.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333435205 461143 :Shyguy33!~Compaq_Ad@96.18.198.184 PART :#esoteric < 1333436472 802925 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1333437115 607223 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net 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< 1333441599 919584 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333441924 900377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333442899 380351 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333442903 916499 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1333442946 620658 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This David.werecatt seems... < 1333442956 11410 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangy < 1333443136 380823 :cheater_!~cheater@p57AEB283.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333443142 991650 :cheater!~cheater@p57AEBF6E.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1333443225 796239 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if we're going to change the featured language every 2 weeks, we're a day late < 1333443380 15064 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1333443933 665653 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1333445492 406670 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1333445521 84746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1333445793 890965 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333446153 709508 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1333446165 207756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ho < 1333446194 725290 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1333446207 671474 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moerjan than ever before. < 1333446224 402128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1333446265 363924 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/ZUTx3.png < 1333446276 256161 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's me! < 1333446407 965113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you tell facts? < 1333446451 722437 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fact: I tell facts. < 1333447353 927821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION I feel sick :( < 1333447374 538624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: So sick I cannot distinguish /me and /quit < 1333447762 868685 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333447786 427572 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333448033 995529 :Phantom_Hoover!455f5ab3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.95.90.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333448527 353230 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f71d.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333449755 746407 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333449759 673883 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1333449761 272018 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1333449849 619122 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f71d.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! in know it's kind of out of topic, but maybe you guys can help.. i'm looking for some complete(?) ready-to-go wrapping code to use for interop-operations with c# on the windows API. (because i'm tired of looking up the code for every single function and/or struct as listed on pinvoke.net for example). would you recommend/suggest a source where i could find such code? < 1333450364 600207 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db410a1.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333450364 849034 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f71d.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1333450365 539283 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db410a1.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1333450620 543545 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db410a1.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1333450639 605519 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b65c9.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333451545 241159 :Phantom_Hoover!455f5ab3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.95.90.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I am in America everything is weird. < 1333451545 401997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 19 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1333451748 501460 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, why are you in America? < 1333451778 854822 :Phantom_Hoover!455f5ab3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.95.90.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why aren't you in America? < 1333451813 191380 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I am trapped in elliott's basement < 1333451908 311712 :Phantom_Hoover!455f5ab3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.95.90.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trapped? < 1333451909 81148 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1333451916 525754 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1333451918 815686 :Phantom_Hoover!455f5ab3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.95.90.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean you finally found your way to his house? < 1333451930 259839 :Phantom_Hoover!455f5ab3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.95.90.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then broke into the basement only to discover it's locked? < 1333451931 383901 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He found me first < 1333452026 648674 :Phantom_Hoover!455f5ab3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.95.90.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dun-dun-dun! < 1333452074 405435 :Phantom_Hoover!455f5ab3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.95.90.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's the dun-dun-dun from The Eve of the War from Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of The War of the Worlds, not the normal dun-dun-dun.) < 1333452114 422163 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have that on LP < 1333452269 881261 :Phantom_Hoover!455f5ab3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.95.90.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it on CD somewhere. < 1333452501 403473 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333452689 513057 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95C3F.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333452982 483676 :Phantom_Hoover!455f5ab3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.95.90.179 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1333453000 602676 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333453551 631246 :NSQX!~CMEG@cm94.epsilon178.maxonline.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1333453597 363968 :NSQX!~CMEG@cm94.epsilon178.maxonline.com.sg PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone unblocks me I will work on UniCode, but unfortunately, nobody will. < 1333453874 959820 :NSQX!~CMEG@cm94.epsilon178.maxonline.com.sg QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1333454841 654327 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1333456905 473233 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333456933 110801 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time elly < 1333456934 169612 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elly is Tue Apr 3 08:41:32 2012 < 1333456944 916445 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time NSQX < 1333456945 627148 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for NSQX is Tue Apr 03 20:41:53 2012 < 1333456968 561524 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time elliott < 1333457016 607741 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where are the administrators anyway? < 1333457179 792593 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 QUIT :Client Quit < 1333457213 459495 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333457321 841751 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time elliott < 1333457650 838560 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333457795 385767 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSQX, you ... do know why you're blocked, right? < 1333457807 665572 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And at any rate, your block is of finite duration. < 1333457809 854207 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1333457819 619114 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Taneb. Did you see the update and the album? < 1333457823 681305 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b65c9.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1333457833 686739 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329edb.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333457835 873366 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1333457878 349217 :NSQX!daba13f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.186.19.243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only waiting for the time when I can ask an administrator to unblock me. < 1333458781 497455 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333459413 468249 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333460124 542370 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333460145 392380 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333460994 761474 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-201.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1333460999 501285 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1333461771 436274 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333461920 998273 :asiekierka-David!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl NICK :asiekierka < 1333463602 187402 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 249 seconds < 1333463971 71243 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.227 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333464330 141806 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1333465079 804305 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db43c6c.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333465080 246089 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329edb.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1333465080 782816 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db43c6c.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1333465178 362202 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333465411 787074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1333465836 190152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1333465836 889068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :5. IANA Considerations < 1333465837 69913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : This document explicitly and emphatically, yet very humbly, requests < 1333465837 230570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : IANA to not create an empty registry for the Null Packet. < 1333465837 596488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1333466619 512231 :cheater_!~cheater@p57AEB283.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1333466744 573845 :boily!~boily@modemcable235.198-70-69.static.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1333466840 700595 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile in April in Finland http://dl.dropbox.com/u/119475/IMG_20120403_074804.jpg < 1333466995 322585 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, snow day. < 1333467492 625891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src IO fail < 1333467492 798149 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail s = failIO s < 1333467497 32316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src failIO < 1333467497 193046 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :failIO s = ioError (userError s) < 1333467696 344598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9995470/jquery-vs-javascript < 1333467803 115928 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1333468942 865242 :cheater!~cheater@p4FD0E888.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333469268 821176 :boily!~boily@modemcable235.198-70-69.static.videotron.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1333469333 931820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1333469391 501872 :boily!~boily@modemcable235.198-70-69.static.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1333469649 819288 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You'd be shocked how commonly that question comes up X_X < 1333469673 664322 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note how #jquery has hundreds more members than ##javascript < 1333469765 82923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers telling RocketJSquirrel about jQuery once. < 1333469766 502319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW FAR HE'S COME < 1333469997 154110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek something like 39.4 degrees celsius fever < 1333470009 915748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WAS NICE TO KNOW YOU ALL. WELL, MOST OF YOU. < 1333470068 993260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :39.4 degrees F would be an even more alarming temperature, possibly. < 1333470163 942644 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think at 39.4F you declare time of death. < 1333470196 463300 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, 39.4K is even worse. < 1333470204 819338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm always 39.4K < 1333470206 55489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just < 1333470206 406856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1333470207 113444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1333470210 996997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::shades: < 1333470214 64639 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAH < 1333470226 12031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you ion < 1333470227 640020 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it takes elliott days to raise the shades to his eyes with that little kinetic energy. < 1333470242 153316 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: 39.4K is at least low enough that you might be cryonically preserved. < 1333470260 753620 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Touché. < 1333470262 459601 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, with future tech you may yet live. < 1333470278 200222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I'm immortal. < 1333470315 845771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Of course, it takes elliott days to raise the shades to his eyes with that little kinetic energy. < 1333470316 744751 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either you've got knowledge I don't, or you meant to say "I might be immortal" < 1333470323 451055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK but I'm also hot. Cool and hot. < 1333470331 42662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lik, some Peltier shit. < 1333470335 631903 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. 39.4K and moving? < 1333470338 277277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Like, < 1333470340 750052 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, immortal. < 1333470348 654488 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is like some shit? < 1333470351 884890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1333470355 767840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I strongly resemble some shit. < 1333470361 70391 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or incredible. Typing whilst very dead. < 1333470398 1139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, I lied, I'm not actually at 39.4K, I'm at absolute zero. My entire body works through incredibly improbable quantum effects. < 1333470422 719757 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazing. < 1333470446 894001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNFORTUNATELY my body also decays through those same effects. < 1333470449 898068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Science: SO DISAPPONITING < 1333470454 310679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*DISAPPORTERJOIFn < 1333470543 907253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls david niven's liquid helium creatures < 1333470580 859472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wrong name D: < 1333470584 123442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*larry < 1333470602 139386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION blames it on his fried brain < 1333470620 951682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Larry, David, what's the difference. < 1333470672 666229 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Larry Niven is well-known (... among scifi fans). David Niven is not. < 1333470690 534357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :James David Graham Niven (1 March 1910 – 29 July 1983),[1][2] was a British actor and novelist, best known for his roles as Phileas Fogg in Around the World in 80 Days and Sir Charles Lytton, a.k.a. "the Phantom", in The Pink Panther. He was awarded the 1958 Academy Award for Best Actor in Separate Tables. < 1333470701 162101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds more well-known than Larry Niven to me! < 1333470701 336830 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Outsiders, I assume? < 1333470708 752534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yes < 1333470803 643618 :cheater!~cheater@p4FD0E888.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1333470816 953983 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Bah. < 1333470875 1056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Article at [[David Niven]] so presumably that's his common name) < 1333470930 640044 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: So where's our changesbot. < 1333470969 57546 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: And why don't you know how to spell "vandalism"? < 1333471012 962413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Our changesbot inexplicably doesn't work, despite producing the correct output when not piped into netcat. < 1333471029 75151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And because I was putting a lot of es on the page so I did it on purpose ergo fuck you. < 1333471070 589574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: I'll probably try and get it working today. < 1333471074 117759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a reaaaally weird bug. < 1333471571 826960 :cheater!~cheater@g231044096.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1333471803 465617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: AAA < 1333472369 911589 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db4289e.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333472370 431579 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db43c6c.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1333472370 913671 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db4289e.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1333473093 950088 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/#!/DonaldGlover/statuses/29592754602381313 < 1333476575 828371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 I like how everyone completely ignored your coming-clean post on rgrn. < 1333476576 27144 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1333478737 911754 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333478791 562369 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect! My HD broke today < 1333478859 811984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a coincidence! Mine didn't! < 1333479091 554477 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s their other main function. < 1333479137 94063 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333479167 931302 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so tomorrow I am going to set up my Thinkpad t20 with 700MHz Pentium III, 64MB of RAM and 30GB HD that is missing the screen as my main computer < 1333479207 332590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what type is the RAM?! < 1333479230 628684 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: PC100 < 1333479292 562760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1333479417 651152 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what elliott will do with this information < 1333479528 667461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :build a clone < 1333479579 894690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, I have next problem I want to use polymorphic data-type that should have two operations (+) and *const < 1333479581 660224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in that type I want to use Num, Vector Num, and maybe types or so < 1333479583 923335 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4289e.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333479586 798041 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db40474.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333479587 681685 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db40474.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1333479604 720907 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote SDRAM < 1333479614 713400 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :804) the allocation is done by the "Dynamic" in DRAM before that we used SRAM where everything was preallocated in the factory olsner: So what's this SDRAM then? fizzie: synchronized, it's for multithreading < 1333479732 800574 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why do you want to build a clone? it also has two windows licenes taped to it (98, XP Pro) and nothing to keep HD inside < 1333479763 954702 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :PC100 SDRAM allows up to 100 PCs (processing contexts, usually called threads nowadays) per memory module < 1333479829 627254 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what about DDR RAM? < 1333479869 425181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Can you tell me the screen resolution? Thx < 1333479945 456976 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: using a external monitor on 1024x768 < 1333480060 495713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thx < 1333480100 634248 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why do you really want this information? < 1333480161 517448 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333480163 667048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's classified. Well, it's not, but I'd probably get arrested if I told you. < 1333480168 410976 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-197-246.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1333480244 707629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/rrijm/could_somebody_explain_the_concept_behind_storing/ < 1333480420 580473 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: blubbar raises some good, thought-provoking questions. < 1333480450 63484 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many a sage has wondered "Why is there in expression and nothing done with it? The $ should curry i guess, but why is this not given a name? (And why isn't it lost?)" < 1333480470 196977 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How the hell is this pure?" is one of the great unsolved problems of our time. < 1333480497 705272 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: double data rate, it allows two threads to use memory at the same time < 1333480509 363254 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretically doubling bandwidth, but latency increases a bit when switching contexts < 1333480511 164624 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course "Is there \"State in Haskell for retards?\"" is a question that any child could understand, but few could answer. < 1333480514 322394 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :first time my HD broke I lost almost all of the data, second time I lost few important files and this time I only lost two hour worth of irc logs. < 1333480928 79176 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There's really only so many basic stories that can exist. The main character is trying to get somewhere (the Odyssey), get something (the legend of the Golden Fleece), win someone's heart (the Iliad), get revenge (Cain and Abel) or save the world ( Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure)." < 1333480996 231720 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have sex. < 1333481007 902670 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note distinction from winning someone's heart. < 1333481012 591070 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All you really want is their naughty bits. < 1333481032 573686 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@178235039209.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333481252 399717 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just solving all those problems quickly, eh? < 1333481259 456894 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Movin' along at a vector's pace. < 1333481343 1809 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.227 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333481453 180989 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.227 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333481943 700855 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Ah, yes, early Spock/Kirk slash. < 1333482012 774185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I remember it well!" < 1333482040 758912 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Actually, can't say I've read any. Just random snarking. < 1333482055 576758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. < 1333482101 723304 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, not exactly the target audience for most slash fic. They kinda target women who like hot man-sex. :P < 1333482138 752209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333482181 342968 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.227 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333482197 226404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1333482200 935429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had an IP spammer! < 1333482235 317338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1333482235 477689 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1333482250 417760 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like turkish < 1333482256 31087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't like it so much < 1333482259 737225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps they'll respond to it later < 1333482266 649021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps they're trying to think up an appropriate response < 1333482277 110863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that it wasn't /completely/ ignored, I've had at least one private response < 1333482280 995173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was private for a reason, so… < 1333482300 115521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Was it a DevTeam member yelling at you? < 1333482305 600888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1333482305 934905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you whisper, the secret is safe. < 1333482308 230395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1333482310 347977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Was it a DevTeam member not yelling at you? < 1333482318 646452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it wasn't a devteam member at all < 1333482334 710929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame. < 1333482338 246896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it a non-DevTeam member yelling at you? < 1333482349 272530 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's devteam? < 1333482359 166541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The NetHack "developer" team. < 1333482360 404685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the group of people who are theoretically supposed to be developing NetHack < 1333482379 759886 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1333482395 536449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will take ais523's silence... as affirmation! < 1333482550 866963 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Besides, not exactly the target audience for most slash fic. They kinda target women who like hot man-sex. < 1333482555 119317 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or men who like hot man-sex. < 1333482577 713759 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Not really. < 1333482615 131803 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Your expert opinion is needed to settle a dispute. < 1333482678 569188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, Hot Man Sex Consultant < 1333482693 304164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(More like Hot Man Sex-Consultant amiright??? lololololol xkcd) < 1333482697 129109 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, augur isn't here ATM. < 1333482698 241771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or slash fix target audience consultant < 1333482701 640891 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: NORLY < 1333482705 632209 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fic < 1333482712 830404 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta get my slash fic slash fix. < 1333482731 990559 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELP BACK TO CLOPFICS FOR ME KTHX < 1333482743 471823 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :clopfix? < 1333482762 390120 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I invite you to look up the term 8-D < 1333482784 88208 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can infer. < 1333482790 380644 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a clop (or clop-something? don't remember the name) reddit, it was intriguing < 1333482840 587107 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH BIG MACINTOSH THEY SURE CALL YOU "BIG MACINTOSH" FOR A REASON HA HA HA < 1333483030 567179 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhhh, guys? < 1333483033 375961 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need some brain bleach? < 1333483122 156444 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was raised on the Internet; it is hard to shock me anymore. < 1333483126 377212 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen... Things. < 1333483138 315462 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes they spin. < 1333483183 86124 :AndGregor!~Gregor@108.120.1.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333483267 243128 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.227 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333483291 711617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's here now! < 1333483393 580293 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.227 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333483422 658189 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye augur < 1333484933 140345 :boily!~boily@modemcable235.198-70-69.static.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7 < 1333485011 888329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The hypothetical person lacking a sense of humour would likely find the behaviour induced by humour to be inexplicable, strange, or even irrational." -- Wikipedia, [[humour]] < 1333485047 742823 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1333485069 540333 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably strange, inexplicable and irrational enough even if you know what's going on < 1333485185 563162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a short story by Asimov where someone asks Multivac for the reason humour exists < 1333485260 958125 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a good story. < 1333486045 271270 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :For Sale: Infinite Tape, Never Used | Richard Feynman was also here | Zombie Feynman's Trivial Theorem: It's trivial! It's trivial! | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1333486261 285764 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333486592 694070 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1333486886 869059 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.227 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333486919 800145 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db40474.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1333487041 569885 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333487053 259457 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95C3F.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333487082 425661 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.227 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333487114 407715 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333487133 845813 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333487137 493413 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1333488293 92766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: gah, see recent edits to [[Entropy]] < 1333488295 921365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain is melting slightly < 1333488299 449330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, probably not < 1333488303 857870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just feels like it < 1333488789 645557 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.227 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333488903 503771 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333488964 702893 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1333488965 122763 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1333489539 781932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Phantom_Hoover < 1333489540 662896 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Phantom_Hoover is Tue Apr 3 21:42:11 < 1333489567 12780 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't changed the time zone on my laptop, unsurprisingly. < 1333489632 300201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure thing, Phantom "actually in Gettysburg St., America, Scotland" Hoover. < 1333490091 112524 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "more of" is stretching it. < 1333490150 504817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf "more of" shachaf < 1333490199 703207 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott "yields falsehood when quoted and placed as his own middle name" elliott < 1333490217 171658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree. < 1333490239 934829 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott "i disagree" elliott < 1333490311 965169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so elliott "elliott" elliott is a liar? < 1333490330 706632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, elliott "yields falsehood when quoted and placed as his own middle name" elliott is < 1333490360 23661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, that's referring to the wrong thing there < 1333490365 841792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:aSS):aSS < 1333490366 2026 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:aSS):aSS < 1333490378 371076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a quine because the bits inside the parens are used to generate the bits outside the parens < 1333490382 445734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (elliott):aSS < 1333490382 606455 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(elliott)elliott < 1333490389 673269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas that's closer to the example shachaf gave < 1333490396 17337 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text$ap(++)show"text$ap(++)show" < 1333490397 426779 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : text$ap(++)show"text$ap(++)show" < 1333490399 544645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it generates extra elliotts, rather than quining < 1333490411 655402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text$ap(++)show"elliott" < 1333490413 66988 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott"elliott" < 1333490426 135235 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I accidentally generate an extra elliott. :-( < 1333490426 295304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see the difference? < 1333490429 669627 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds dangerous. < 1333490443 343269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hi < 1333490449 939173 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh-oh. < 1333490455 231696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what what < 1333490560 25463 :augur!~augur@206.196.185.227 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333490908 985587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1333490912 332603 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-160-124.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1333490984 752691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is oerjan ghost < 1333491022 774504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure, but i'm checking my fever again < 1333491046 755879 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ns151 delivers a righteous speech directed against the anti-American rhetoric on Reddit." (r/bestof) < 1333491050 394257 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This could go either way. < 1333491115 686294 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It went the wrong way. < 1333491141 751482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: tl;dr "OK, our country is really terrible and shitty, but we're not North Korea, also if any other country had our resources they'd be literally Satan too, so there, and also people who want to leave are cowards and fuck them". < 1333491153 567244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Last part only barely paraphrased: "And to the Americans who come on here and whine about how much they want to leave and go to live in places they have never even visited: fuck you. Not in a "love America or get the fuck out" kind of way, but because you are an embarrassment to everything this country was founded on 230 years ago. You'd rather just pack up and leave than stay and fight for what you believe in.") < 1333491296 692220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I saw. < 1333491312 190630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also "rhetoric", as if reddit is home to anything that could be non-sarcastically described as rhetoric.) < 1333491441 4589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's slightly up to 39.6, but i'm feeling _less_ shitty < 1333491455 156503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :For Sale: Infinite Tape, Never Used | Richard Feynman was also here | Zombie oerjan's Trivial Theorem: It's trivial! It's trivial! | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1333491515 240144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I hope you recover soon < 1333491541 417216 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1333491548 797522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope so too, i'm worried about not getting food bought for the holidays < 1333491563 403871 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1333491576 638513 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1333491593 43993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, since when are we nice to suffering people in here! < 1333491598 520861 :augur_!~augur@wireless-206-196-160-124.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1333491611 394408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i hope you recover slowly. (see, that's a half-way point!) < 1333491617 92059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1333491646 385443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: we were pretty nice to you when you were suffering < 1333491673 352310 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-160-124.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1333491705 60086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, that was feigned to get on my good side, because you don't want to be the ones suffering when i rise to president of the world and my new world order begins < 1333491718 652048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, everyone else's was. my condolences if you had to settle for sincerity :P < 1333491738 239097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: would you believe /me/ to be insincere about something like that? < 1333491742 999976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that I'm lawful good ;) < 1333491745 812913 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's oerjan suffering? < 1333491751 974285 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, more like lawful obnoxious. < 1333491771 245985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawful good people are famously obnoxious < 1333491794 921795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone ever work out what I am? < 1333491807 401672 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1333491815 280720 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333491823 197443 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, chaotic annoying. < 1333491840 195306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just checked, I'm not chaotic. < 1333491856 815638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm. < 1333491861 226060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not original-meaning-of-chaotic. < 1333491870 403485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be new-meaning-of-chaotic. < 1333491881 553048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neutral seems more likely to me, though. < 1333492261 133215 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chaotic neutral. < 1333492312 352280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: I don't see how I'm neutral on the good/evil alignment... < 1333492325 412104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/rm5o4/does_hard_scifi_even_exist_in_hollywood/ < 1333492340 326357 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm looking for a film that displays at least a hint of scientific accuracy." < 1333492363 972802 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about Citizen Kane? < 1333492368 115285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Core < 1333492379 627148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hi five elliott  < 1333492399 171836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, were you going to say that too? < 1333492403 755354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am so unoriginal. :( < 1333492408 223113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i considered it. < 1333492434 961927 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until it goes all loopy, 2001: A Space Odyssey is reasonably hard. Then it's just high. < 1333492505 905926 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :MST3K had a review of an extremely hard sci-fi. < 1333492516 686554 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that it was on MST3K tells you how well hard sci-fi does. < 1333492530 17585 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had relativity and generation ships and such. < 1333492557 62660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frankly hard sci-fi with the explicit intention of being hard tends to be pretty terrible. < 1333492587 738653 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly because the real universe is pretty fucking depressing ^^ < 1333492587 939066 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on what you're looking for. < 1333492599 421395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However, because Virgil was not designed to jettison undamaged compartments, the plan requires someone to deactivate a safety switch in Virgil that is located in an area exposed to the extreme temperatures of the core. Brazzelton volunteers and successfully deactivates the switch, dying shortly afterwards." < 1333492614 435988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't think the writers fully understood how hot the Earth's core is? < 1333492627 546888 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1333492639 484936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh, sure, I'll sacrifice mysAAAAAAAAAAERIOHGl'f'" < 1333492641 47803 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: He flips the switch during the microsecond before he's fully evaporated. < 1333492654 675479 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wouldn't it be cool if..." can be good, sometimes, but invariably scrimp on the non-central science involved (cf. Tau Zero), and "I WILL WRITE HARD SCI-FI" invariably has a terrible plot and a boring setting. < 1333492676 473140 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's got to be at least a few that are hard-modulo-FTL. < 1333492689 478115 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pretty much the minimum acceptable to avoid being depressing as fuck. < 1333492704 152952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I mean, interesting hard sci-fi is interesting because it's about the effects of technology on people, society, etc. < 1333492719 72419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, asimov's books tend to avoid contradictions with existing science, they just invent new bits of science too < 1333492723 309897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the kind of people who care the sci-fi is AS HARD AS POSSIBLE tend to consider writing stories about things like "people" beneath them. < 1333492723 955274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wouldn't it be cool if..." can be good, sometimes, but invariably scrimp on the non-central science involved (cf. Tau Zero), and "I WILL WRITE HARD SCI-FI" invariably has a terrible plot and a boring setting.? < 1333492746 961712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wouldn't it be cool if..." can be good, sometimes, but invariably scrimp on the non-central science involved (cf. Tau Zero), and "I WILL WRITE HARD SCI-FI" invariably has a terrible plot and a boring setting.?! < 1333492753 727610 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wouldn't it be cool if..." can be good, sometimes, but invariably scrimp on the non-central science involved (cf. Tau Zero), and "I WILL WRITE HARD SCI-FI" invariably has a terrible plot and a boring setting.?!‽ < 1333492760 803503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I thought Tau Zero was good? I'ven't read it.) < 1333492763 607364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote tau zero < 1333492767 241020 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :587) You mean it'd be Tau Zero but without the spaceship? < 1333492767 401390 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :'twas OK. < 1333492772 947765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like "real-world science exists and is not contradicted, but we also have telepathy and we can do ftl travel using hyperspace" < 1333492780 765576 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It got a bit doofy in the end. < 1333492787 164434 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ending was very cakey. < 1333492794 706346 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It started all hard sci-fi and ended all My Little Pony. < 1333492806 401193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Pretty sure hyperspace requires a huge amount of glue code to be consistent with existing physics... < 1333492810 697919 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which has self-consistent time travel, so y'know) < 1333492832 667538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, it's a plot point that nobody actually understands it, the first hyperspace engine was created by an insane robot < 1333492838 999298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Also, I thought Tau Zero was good? I'ven't read it.) < 1333492841 131276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohh, right, Tau Zero has a terrible ending. < 1333492861 663270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I thought it just did took obvious super-depressing route.) < 1333492864 129931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which would be better.) < 1333492868 22720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it just took the obvious < 1333492874 11105 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is; I just doubt very much that the Leonora was feasible at the time. < 1333492893 565360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember when Bussard ramjets were discredited. < 1333492908 109654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The universe collapses into a cosmic egg (which the starship survives because there is still enough uncondensed hydrogen for maneuvering, outside the monobloc)" < 1333492915 377267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the part where they survive a Big Bang. < 1333492938 653632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussard_ramjet suggests they're not totally. < 1333492943 651790 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds positively Adams-like. < 1333492959 743891 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: They're just not as good as they were thought to be. < 1333492967 759430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TauZero(Anderson).jpg I am not exactly convinced this cover means something. < 1333492976 55638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it, though! < 1333492997 675323 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-192-8.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(courtesy of the interstellar medium being less dense than we thought) < 1333492998 809791 :augur_!~augur@wireless-206-196-160-124.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333493072 409055 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD95C3F.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333493080 336641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: also should I watch Primer. < 1333493084 135451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Tau Zero has a tonne of handwaving with "magnetohydrodynamic fields" which are real but I suspect don't do half the things they're portrayed to. < 1333493087 571624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already more-or-less know the plot. < 1333493096 321927 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Primer has a bad plot or something apparently? < 1333493154 134144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Are you sure you didn't just get that from the reddit post? < 1333493180 326979 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I did. < 1333493195 145702 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't already more-or-less know the plot. < 1333493607 406629 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, let us analyze the position of My Little Pony on the scale of "hard" or "soft" AI, and see which problems can be rectified to harden it. < 1333493633 42295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ignore RocketJSquirrel*!*@* all < 1333493636 257444 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1333493692 397840 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I said AI. < 1333493697 548824 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I meant sci-fi. < 1333493699 379139 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am el retard. < 1333493720 702963 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLEARLY THAT MISTAKE IS WHY ELLIOTT IS IGNORING ME SO I WILL GO ON < 1333493745 921477 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem #1: Pegasi are a highly unlikely modification to the pony bauplan (and we haven't even mentioned unicorns yet!) < 1333493763 696578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression you had a channel for this. < 1333493802 729076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: AAAA < 1333493822 78707 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed I do, but I'm not /harassing/ people in there, so it's no fun. < 1333493871 725535 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK also American food is so ridiculously huge. < 1333493876 289004 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :my little pony is the hardest sci-fi < 1333493895 891524 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's true. < 1333493901 963648 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like < 1333493924 602939 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I've become accustomed to buying dinner to go and dividing it into two meals. < 1333493927 452751 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a very strong compulsion to finish meals and I don't think I've finished either of the ones I've had here. < 1333493935 696756 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, don't. It's not a good idea. < 1333493956 583627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Have you SUPERSISED any yet? < 1333493960 813813 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a friend who's "adapted" by eating only one meal per day. < 1333493963 465935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, "supersised" looks ridiculous. < 1333493966 112501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SUPERSIZED < 1333493972 145558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/HJpSU.jpg < 1333493984 824939 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What sise drink do you prefer? < 1333493988 720116 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm told my grandfather once tried to make a scale model of this. < 1333494001 356856 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel, non-comically-oversised. < 1333494012 763845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: It took me a minute to realise that was actually incorrect >_> < 1333494067 474228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Doesn't it... upset you a bit to be on such a gigantic island? < 1333494068 287847 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Naw, supersising something is making it superse. < 1333494080 896700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I mean, America is pretty terrifying! < 1333494081 724122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, um, continent. < 1333494083 577951 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. this is a very superse meal from McDonalds, I think I'll die of a stroke now. < 1333494092 369260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Um what is the difference except SISE < 1333494098 723763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Continent am just very big island. < 1333494105 101292 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they make up for it by thinking buildings made a century ago are old. < 1333494108 908677 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'awwww. < 1333494132 771739 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But we do by having air conditioning in every building that actually gets lived in, thanks to demolishing any building over a century old :) < 1333494165 396169 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joke's on you, the UK climate is so stable that air conditioning is rarely needed. < 1333494179 958617 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Touché. < 1333494196 355074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what am the weather like there. < 1333494217 425878 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-160-124.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1333494226 254440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hot, but not any more than Edinburgh a little further into summer. < 1333494260 482608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more < 1333494261 10772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1333494262 775665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EdinBRRRRRRR < 1333494284 256627 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nice to live in a place where the weather is always miserable. < 1333494289 664599 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to wonder if you'll enjoy the weather. < 1333494308 295522 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stays hot for longer, though; the evenings aren't as pronounced. < 1333494308 680845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fun fact: in midwinter, the sun at midday in Edinburgh is 8° from the horizon.) < 1333494330 142430 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-160-124.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333494341 968572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That fact isn't... fun? < 1333494414 973184 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-160-124.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1333494434 141346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What time is it in... "America". < 1333494452 226205 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel, I prefer to say that the weather is always comfortable, because it... is. < 1333494473 614648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Phantom_Hoover constantly wears jumpers.) < 1333494475 24537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or so I hear.) < 1333494482 181566 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1333494504 186443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Phantom_Hoover = < 1333494505 64098 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Phantom_Hoover is Tue Apr 3 23:04:55 < 1333494509 689622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1333494510 41148 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Wed Apr 4 00:08:25 < 1333494510 202425 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Wed Apr 4 00:08:25 < 1333494510 202622 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Wed Apr 4 00:08:25 < 1333494513 922775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what < 1333494522 831586 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, so even if it gets hot I can take it off and walking is still comfortable (although as is readily apparent from going through America for any length of time, you can't walk anywhere there anyway). < 1333494524 510791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Dude, your time is wrong even for the other place you're in. < 1333494531 744293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1333494532 95234 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Wed Apr 4 00:08:47 < 1333494537 579906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that was odd. < 1333494542 422568 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, the clock drift is only 5 minutes? < 1333494553 804310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude. < 1333494557 240895 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. < 1333494558 742527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an hour and 5 minutes. < 1333494568 783298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modulo BST. < 1333494570 350739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :5, 3, whatever. < 1333494588 485487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:09. Is it really only 19:09 there Phantom_Hoover? It's night time! < 1333494598 232395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am honestly not faking my disbelief, countries are weird and timezones are weird.) < 1333494614 62445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1333494676 623934 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the buildings here are so sparse, too. < 1333494687 384427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Are the trains really as bad as they say? < 1333494708 790240 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't think they have trains in America for commuter use. < 1333494711 459212 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In effect. < 1333494717 456892 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time elliott < 1333494717 770871 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Wed Apr 4 00:11:52 < 1333494739 694096 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although dude, who uses trains in the UK except for long-range travel through the UK? < 1333494748 741274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone? < 1333494755 798948 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What about all those trains in the US? < 1333494758 620195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, we don't have a car. < 1333494758 795744 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Caltrain. < 1333494761 3906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yesyesyes Gregor, I know long-range in the UK is nonexistent in the US.) < 1333494762 852166 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a train, right? < 1333494783 879610 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "we" being "the UK"? < 1333494788 111345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Anyway, what about ``am'' ''trek''? < 1333494791 854821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. < 1333494810 927084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I'd just heard they aren't used much. < 1333494837 660047 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is missing out. < 1333494842 104313 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trains in #esoteric! < 1333494845 708059 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But um I guess you must have completely different travel needs to me. < 1333494861 339874 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reappears. < 1333494864 448154 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wots all this then? < 1333494874 241782 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some cities have commuter trains, most don't. < 1333494876 402849 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portland does :) < 1333494876 730888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm not saying I use trains in place of walking? < 1333494884 563719 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trips to Ireland more or less require taking a car over a ferry. < 1333494886 56214 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long distance train travel is pretty shitty. < 1333494896 858548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But, I mean, trains are way nicer than buses. < 1333494901 91000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For longer distances.) < 1333494901 265146 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of ferries, WA has ferries. < 1333494905 501116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But not long distances, just longer.) < 1333494915 716084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah, hence long-range UK travel. < 1333494916 619362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And yes but who goes to Ireland? < 1333494921 108035 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. travel between cities. < 1333494925 439480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, mm... not really long-range. < 1333494935 872592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I wanted to go to Newcastle, the nearest city, I'd use a trainular device. < 1333494955 318749 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medium-to-long, then. < 1333494964 68469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's 22.6 miles, apparently. < 1333495032 374605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The part of the US you're in looks boring. < 1333495056 497304 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to Annapolis later? It has that crazy bridge that was on Cracked a while ago. < 1333495073 109258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how Wyoming is rectangular. < 1333495074 696515 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333495077 169507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Way to be creative. < 1333495097 440492 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1333495110 31972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no it doesn't. < 1333495133 244568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: What's the best US state? < 1333495194 132356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Whoa, what the fuck? I didn't know the Americas joined up like *that*. < 1333495203 850383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My understanding of geography is... woefully poor. < 1333495214 262294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, Panama is all sideways and shit. < 1333495216 747866 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean Panama? < 1333495217 547360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1333495229 127616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they were more like, above-below. < 1333495234 777961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no! < 1333495258 482477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :North America is a really ugly shape, mind you. < 1333495273 920822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esp. Canada. < 1333495321 10517 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OREGON 8-D < 1333495323 770684 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAAAAAAAAAY OREGON < 1333495350 839528 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you name a state after a spice < 1333495355 514105 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*herb < 1333495361 875311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(THAT'S HERB WITH AN H YOU IDIOTS) < 1333495368 978468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erb < 1333495372 434135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oregon's pretty, isn't it? I don't really know. < 1333495373 477818 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1333495384 960059 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK has tons of commuter trains < 1333495388 211398 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and several major transit systems < 1333495396 770555 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's "who uses trains in the UK except for long-range travel" < 1333495404 590943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You realise Phantom_Hoover is Scottish, right? < 1333495412 913060 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edinburgh has two train stations. < 1333495413 176673 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1333495427 738200 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are the trams but... the less said about the trams, the better. < 1333495429 5534 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also major US cities do have commuter rail networks < 1333495477 433238 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NYC, Chicago, Boston, Philly, LA, SF, Baltimore/DC, Miami, etc. < 1333495485 725725 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in roughly decreasing order of ridership < 1333495491 843667 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oregon's pretty, isn't it? I don't really know. // The parts of Oregon anybody knows about are lush and green. < 1333495498 931154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is in Penicillin. < 1333495507 87191 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they tend to be shitty compared to European or Asian systems, but they do run and lots of people us them < 1333495507 359829 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The vast majority is just barely on the tundra side of being called a "desert" < 1333495548 942234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the feeling kmc Knows About Trains. < 1333495553 460426 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"About one in every three users of mass transit in the United States and two-thirds of the nation's rail riders live in New York and its suburbs." < 1333495566 286126 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one of the Weird Things in America, the scrubland is pretty different. < 1333495575 448650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moer like New Reallyboringstate. < 1333495593 689131 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :burn < 1333495599 727347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's more bare soil, for one thing. < 1333495601 770228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*More. That was unintentional. :/ < 1333495629 122359 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://0x10c.com/ < 1333495631 177960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh joy. < 1333495658 838522 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The disparate space sim enthusiasts are going to be divided further by a game made by *Notch*. < 1333495691 399586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "Seamlessly landing on planets." Sorry I am SOLD. < 1333495699 416770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which will inevitably be a disappointment, but may get far enough developed that it sucks interest into Notch's shitty MMO design. < 1333495719 760391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Infinity, for god's sake. < 1333495726 299203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes exactly. < 1333495730 538223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That game isn't ever going to exist. < 1333495735 313953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one looks like it might. < 1333495746 532694 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It'll also be awfully executed. < 1333495775 175452 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've been to Oregon! < 1333495783 252231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notch's personality cult will see that no constructive criticism can be made and it'll be a technical shambles (we've all seen what he thinks constitutes procedural generation, for one thing). < 1333495790 526234 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recommend Medford, OR. < 1333495799 526175 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're going to visit Oregon, don't go to Medford. < 1333495829 186178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh pls. < 1333495836 287965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I have a suspicion this'll be an EVE-style "right click to fight ship" deal. < 1333495855 684874 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might not be, though. < 1333495858 131555 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, um? < 1333495863 837817 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MC's terrain gen isn't good. < 1333495880 6100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't think Notch is inherently incompetent, he just mismanaged Minecraft. < 1333495887 888685 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was decent up to 1.7, and then it was ruined. < 1333495897 123667 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RUINED! < 1333495900 122399 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I went from WA to CA through OR. < 1333495902 294551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, and who wrote the decent one in the first place? < 1333495902 566073 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, well yes. < 1333495917 865534 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sure, but planetary terrain gen is more demanding than MC's. < 1333495933 203437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's also not constrained to 1x1x1 m blocks. < 1333495969 572060 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not saying he's incompetent, I just don't think he's a good maker of games; MC's great success is its core idea, and not a great deal more. < 1333496028 197334 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything new about that core idea/ < 1333496030 242594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to think he's learned something. The "Game Features" and "The Generator and the Computer" are all we have to go on, and they make me thoroughly intrigued, so I'm OK with giving him the benefit of the doubt. < 1333496069 264969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Game features aren't anything new. < 1333496072 906576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Can we just skip to the part where we recognise that basically every idea in existence is heavily derivative in some way, and that the synthesis and tweaking of existing ideas with a different vision can produce a clearly-derivative idea that is still new and worthwhile in its own right? < 1333496087 761934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So? < 1333496115 362980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm not sure how much innovation can carry it? < 1333496117 473621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And I don't think there's been a space sim that lets you write a program to fully automate your ship, at least not in-game. < 1333496144 820116 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because it's incredibly niche and entertaining to a very small number of people. < 1333496159 798223 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least when taken to the level of nonabstraction he has. < 1333496174 873267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Sorry, I'll revoke my intrigue in the name of populism. < 1333496178 936265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Can we force O'Reilly to take RWH out of print? < 1333496225 649478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no matter how high the power (c) is to 10 multiplied by 0 would be 0. so 0x10c would imply, end of universe? just a thought. #0x10c" < 1333496257 295601 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What's wrong with RWH? < 1333496264 881238 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think that's one of those trick sentences. < 1333496269 534804 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well there are programming games aplenty; how many have you enjoyed? < 1333496299 305472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "Programming game" is a disingenuous comparison; it's clear that there's a spectrum of automation you can choose, and I doubt anyone will automate their entire ship for anything other than kicks. < 1333496307 913751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Anyway, you never played BF Joust.) < 1333496317 361430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's hideously out of date, rubbish at teaching the basics, and all the code is ugly. < 1333496319 286356 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I mean what *you've* enjoyed. < 1333496331 27265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Eh? < 1333496340 760123 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said that it intrigued you. < 1333496401 749841 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, agree, when i say "anything new" i'm referring to precisely that "tweaking of existing ideas" and "different vision" < 1333496401 946852 :AndGregor!~Gregor@108.120.1.154 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1333496446 961652 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, how many other resource-gathering construction sandboxes were there before MC? < 1333496454 910935 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1333496540 761900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, MC is hardly Infiniminer. < 1333496572 526438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cube world isn't a new idea, and nor is a goal-less sandbox game, but Minecraft combined that fully-destructable, procedural block mining terrain with sandbox goals and the focus on creation. < 1333496636 257363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the sparseness that it had in the early days that made it very much about isolation, at least in single-player. < 1333496655 103402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately it went downhill and turned into a really bad RPG. < 1333496707 941965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I don't really think Notch has the ability to make the game he describes. < 1333496726 887714 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MC kind of just rolled together with some basic features, after all. < 1333496743 395463 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once he started on long-term goals it turned into a really bad RPG. < 1333496867 339738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, but that was more a problem of vision than anything; he seems to have always intended it to turn into the kind of RPG it did, and the sort of quasi-existential-horror vibe it had going turned out to be an artifact of the development process. < 1333496878 106670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But here, the vision seems sound, so that risk isn't really there. < 1333496903 638475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only question is technical ability, and I'd like to think that (a) he's learned enough (Minecraft did get less buggy as it went on, after all), and (b) he has enough competent people in his company to mitigate it. < 1333497029 66216 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not just technical ability. < 1333497054 526854 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He needs to be able to weave that list of individual cool things into a coherent game, not just implement each in a vacuum. < 1333497081 493242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You seem to be mistaking "benefit of the doubt" for "unwavering support". I'm hardly going to pass judgement before it comes out. < 1333497099 751231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I'm trying to apply what we know about MC's development. < 1333497126 461876 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had plenty of half-implemented, disconnected elements. < 1333497152 874225 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolves, powered minecarts, the Nether... < 1333497177 410352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I think the technical challenge is lessened by the fact that it's obviously going for an at least pseudo-retro style aesthetic, given that the logo is rendered by the game's engine and that 0 has very obvious edges. < 1333497211 185988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess "Also, think 1980's." is a more direct affirmation of that. < 1333497225 855329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Said to C418.) < 1333497292 515715 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pseudo-retro means lazy in Notchland. < 1333497322 6464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MC's textures might be low-res, but they're ugly too. < 1333497330 381658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your abject negativity is absolutely bizarre. I realise Minecraft ended up sucking, but you could twist literally any detail about this game into naysaying. < 1333497386 630900 :augur!~augur@wireless-206-196-160-124.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333497426 433608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quite like space games, and of late I've been increasingly frustrated at the number of good projects which will never succeed due to an abject lack of coordination. < 1333497434 883858 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing this has not improved my mood. < 1333497472 454689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are the only person who can see that a game with a non-terrible vision in an area of your interest is being developed and have it manage to dampen your mood. < 1333497478 273842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it fails, that doesn't affect you at all.