< 1333238753 606478 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333239026 520286 :Frooxius_!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1333239205 175521 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1333239258 995775 :Frooxius_!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1333240225 857853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you don't happen to use Thunderbird as a feed reader? < 1333240411 46262 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I use Akregator < 1333240423 38672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is decent once you've memorised it's slightly unintuitive controls < 1333240616 682891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: where's America? < 1333240625 899819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: left < 1333240639 20591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1333240646 970390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long a walk is it? < 1333240720 295500 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can breathe underwater, a few months. If you can't, the remainder of your days. < 1333240743 454387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i can fly < 1333240753 419062 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not walking now is it? < 1333240765 454954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i could move my legs < 1333240818 111471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you couldn't, no legroom in those things < 1333240844 352421 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333240882 830518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, the air? < 1333240968 498000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, hiato is in #haskell. < 1333240970 439484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're being the deprived. < 1333241233 526287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :m (→‎Examples: return for int func is nec in c std.) < 1333241234 759349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not! < 1333241667 951982 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333242205 684119 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333242411 421489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :breathing? naw < 1333242586 666540 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody have a recommended IM-over-IRC proxy server? < 1333242606 593290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Are there any others than Bitlbee? < 1333242611 852892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use Pidgin, man. < 1333242647 629806 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Upon further observation, bitlbee isn't just a service, it's an available server. < 1333242654 299493 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea why I thought it was service-only >_> < 1333242662 591987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sucks, though. < 1333242667 309588 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1333242683 794289 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to think of it, all I really want is a IM proxy, it doesn't need to be over IRC. An IM BNC is what I want. < 1333242693 717054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why a proxy? < 1333242694 549162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an incredibly leaky abstraction, and the "one big administrative/contact list room" model is just weird. < 1333242700 427265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to hide your identity? < 1333242717 154525 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Most of the IM services I use suck when you have multiple connections. < 1333242720 875578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially since "nobody in this room sees anything I say apart from the things I prefix with their name; also only I see anybody else saying anything" is a really, really disorienting thing for an IRC channel to be. < 1333242737 421490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and I won't even get started on how painful it makes group conversations in protocols that don't have explicit "named" group conversations. < 1333242742 403988 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You can't see your outgoing messages from other connections, and frequently even miss incoming messages if another connection has been active more recently. < 1333242755 792068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1333242759 848807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people use IM for anything, again? < 1333242770 745456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT it solves the same problem as IRC, but worse < 1333242806 173322 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: IRC is channel-oriented, IM is person-oriented. IRC could be a perfectly workable IM protocol, but the clients are tailored for a different kind of communication. < 1333242823 965378 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why Pidgin is a shitty IRC client and XChat is a shitty IM client. < 1333243218 461609 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333243255 86963 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333243268 446061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's the most serious thing I could possibly do to Esolang? < 1333243291 475149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, hard to think of, I guess < 1333243307 748758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sort of big combined interpreter that does amazing things < 1333243311 713496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a large standard library project < 1333243320 130574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, boring people would expect me to do something silly to Esolang today < 1333243341 220143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have to do something very serious and bureaucratic instead < 1333243402 681409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1333244353 743945 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333244378 120906 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What things, specifically? < 1333244553 524879 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333244720 687471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's what i was asking! < 1333244767 963370 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm famous! < 1333244798 200104 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1333244799 868899 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1333245266 390397 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1333246226 759567 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333246275 923191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How many IO concepts are there in Haskell? < 1333246516 215638 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333246551 141684 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333246614 640976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: concepts? aren't those a C++ thing? < 1333246627 260510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just repeating a stupid question from #haskell. < 1333246779 34329 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-114-196.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333246812 142431 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1333246996 264643 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-236-160.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1333247526 155726 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :" olsner: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" <-- I'm already bathing with the snakes, so why not? < 1333247588 198947 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so far, I don't think I'm doing anything that's actually not possible in C++03, just a matter of convenience < 1333247609 714677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that was just a random noooo < 1333247632 219881 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmhm? < 1333247644 27535 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get what it was referring to, but ok < 1333247702 633666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing at all < 1333247732 502475 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1333247742 11770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES < 1333247781 227794 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK < 1333247899 354483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII < 1333248232 91352 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME < 1333248242 912912 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE < 1333248250 321615 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1333248316 628096 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I remove the maximize and close buttons in Windows? I never use them anyways, but sometimes I accidentally click them when I meant to click minimize. < 1333248347 35060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use a shortcut for minimise too < 1333248354 857693 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :remove Windows and all will be solved < 1333248382 108646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/1233910418 may help < 1333248387 493641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes, that is one way; but that would require a lot of work and I would have to install everything from the start all at first and so on < 1333248442 445009 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, none of that is required to just remove it < 1333248479 785605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes; but if I remove Windows and then do not put any other operating systems, then the computer won't work anymore < 1333248503 635649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it won't help, no solutions there < 1333248536 464249 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe not, but at least it will not give you more problems < 1333249703 783327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1333249704 909653 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Sun Apr 1 04:08:22 < 1333250061 631483 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUICK anybody know how to do an exception to a rewriterule .*? < 1333250267 332547 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean, "How many IO concepts are there in Haskell"? < 1333250288 394574 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point was that it it was a stupid question and so people were laughing at it < 1333250759 220475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1333250821 890419 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333251021 781822 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333251452 840186 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333251706 791491 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1333254906 597229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HPDF implements some typesetting algorithm, but I should want it to work with DVI as well. < 1333256787 612393 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333259308 131587 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333259993 584134 :cheater_!~cheater@e181156009.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1333260028 297345 :cheater!~cheater@e181156009.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1333262122 393285 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1333262132 244226 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl NICK :asiekierka < 1333262988 582801 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1333263129 289068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, audiophiles: I just observed an argument on proggit where (possibly as a strawman) the argument came up that WAV was better than FLAC because FLAC was digital and WAV stored the uncompressed /analog/ signal < 1333263139 743868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the most absurd statements have been edited out < 1333263213 602956 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is wrong in far too many ways. < 1333263305 201011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; unlike most such arguments, it doesn't show ignorance of how compression works < 1333263305 852706 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :faces < 1333263306 907178 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and palms < 1333263315 48523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a different misconception entirely < 1333263330 408175 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess technically anyway < 1333263333 54464 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the wav came from a cd < 1333263348 24494 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stores enough information to reproduce the exact analog signal up to about 44.1khz < 1333263351 153318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the CD wasn't analog, because CDs are digital < 1333263360 38411 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, 22.05? i sorta forget < 1333263366 113129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, hmm, are you sure? < 1333263374 40654 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an interesting theorem about it < 1333263377 380127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to take quantization of amplitude into account, not just frequency < 1333263380 353 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one sec, lemme find it < 1333263389 287531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the theorem is only to do with frequency, if you're thinking of the same one as me < 1333263407 221896 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is that? < 1333263434 822133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyquist < 1333263442 778408 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, that's what i was looking for < 1333263452 560438 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quantization error of CDs is utterly unnoticable with dithering, though. < 1333263471 985153 :ion!ion@GYKMMMDCLI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At a 44.1 kHz sample rate you’ll be able to store a good 22.05 kHz square wave or very bad waveforms in its neighborhood downwards. < 1333263506 607605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: indeed, but that doesn't mean it isn't there, which is relevant in arguments about analog losslessness < 1333263507 56543 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: At a 44.1 kHz sample rate you'll be able to store a 22.05 kHz frequency exactly, modulo quantization. < 1333263519 235951 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm entirely willing to believe that it's impossible for the human ear to detect < 1333263541 38365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless the recording was made on the most sensitive microphone in existence, it /is/ possible for a machine to detect) < 1333263568 54289 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i should have said "approaching exact" heh < 1333263570 928431 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :been a while since i read about it < 1333263579 990998 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to be exact it would have to be calculated out to infinity or some such < 1333263596 243430 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would actually be exact if your samples were real numbers. < 1333263600 296437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely wonders how accurate the most sensitive microphone in existence is < 1333263615 481717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how accurate the A-to-D, if any, it's attached to is < 1333263615 785529 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The *only* inexactness is coming from the use of bound samples. < 1333263643 190252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes, in case someone decides to send a delta function at you or something < 1333263679 176449 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes well, i don't have a firm enough understanding to discuss it, i was only pointing out that even though it's stored digitally, the information is essentially analog ;) < 1333263681 126624 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then so would flac < 1333263700 55157 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obviously this is not to support his argument, just to explain that one might see where he got confused < 1333263727 852828 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways. CDDA is about as good at retaining fidelity of the audio as an 8K scan of film would be at retaining the video fidelity. < 1333263740 16381 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is to say, if anyone says they can do better they're probably lying. < 1333263780 340640 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sample all the kilohertz < 1333263839 533488 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(8K = 4320p) < 1333263885 668626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: hmm, I'm pretty sure there are screens that can show at 4320p with it still possible to make out the individual pixels < 1333263894 874244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not very many, but I think they exist < 1333263914 658291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'd be an accurate representation of the film, but perceptably deficient for representing the original scene < 1333263927 276046 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of an incomplete statement < 1333263932 649447 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it rather depends on the physical size of the screen < 1333263946 474266 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, and said screens are probably big enough that you are a mere 3 pixels tall. < 1333263947 887144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: that's my point, there's no limit to how large you could make the screen in theory < 1333263949 483069 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1333263959 107026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: they wouldn't have to be /that/ big < 1333263966 361672 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I know. < 1333263974 20823 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but if we're talking about fidelity, you can't exactly expect "greater than 1:1" :P < 1333264005 332870 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they'd have to be so large you're basically incapable of seeing the whole screen if you can see the individual pixels. < 1333264060 222995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: agreed < 1333264070 752069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether you'd see the whole thing or make out pixels would depend on how far you were standing from it < 1333264084 588527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imagining something around the size of a cinema screen would be enough to make out the pixels if you stood close to it < 1333264101 256097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although obviously your head would block the projector if you tried that on an /actual/ cinema screen, so it'd have to use a different principle < 1333264114 274389 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reverse projection cinema? < 1333264115 865087 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1333264155 688945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that could work, and IIRC actually exists, but is quite wasteful of space < 1333264165 644977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you could have two audiences, one on each side of the screen < 1333264244 114300 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be a pretty bad idea unless you've got a particularly strange theater. < 1333264291 809715 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps if the seating is an actual stadium. < 1333265096 846304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Many, many 3D games were done using less. < 1333265108 22149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I initially interpreted that as referring to less(1) < 1333265121 190720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thought that that was indeed quite a primitive tool to make a 3D game with < 1333265165 653059 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quiet. < 1333265170 405323 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, quite. < 1333265260 252865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you actually edit things with less, apart from telling it to run vi? < 1333265278 887574 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would it just be a case of repeatedly paging through /dev/random until you found the source you needed? < 1333265457 374308 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :less doesn't have an insert mode, so. < 1333265476 809328 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, can't edit with it. < 1333265574 888123 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless some smartass does ln -s vi /bin/less < 1333265687 623215 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1333265902 369190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been told that LP record is better quality than CD and computer and audio tape and so on, but only the first time it is played. After that, it degrades. < 1333265978 219704 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They like to tell you that. < 1333265991 51148 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A CD has more dynamic range. < 1333266006 213213 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that it matters much in this age of 1 dB dynamic range) < 1333266196 265385 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically the only argument in favor of vinyl is that it may have pleasant artifacts. < 1333266392 833123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other argument in favor of vinyl is the simplicity of a record player; no computer is required to decode anything. < 1333266434 199847 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not an argument in favor of the format's *quality*, but certainly an argument in favor of its use in certain contexts. < 1333266470 591283 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333266489 403540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I agree; the argument I mention has nothing to do with quality. < 1333266584 380016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before on this channel, I have discussed annotation monads a bit; but now I think of coannotation comonads as well. < 1333266824 750887 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes Maybe to be the annotation monad of () and it makes non-empty list comonad to be the coannotation comonad of [()] < 1333266877 794312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1333267154 38781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re blocking the screen, there are also some very acute-angle projectors nowadays. Can't seem to find the right Google keywords, but there was an article; it was something ridiculous like 15 degrees or less. Probably not for cinema resolutions, though, since the intended use case was more like meetings and whatever. (Plus probably some loss in image quality due to the large amount of ... < 1333267160 78396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... perspective correction.) < 1333267352 124194 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333267375 417516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I've seen some acute-angle projectors that do a bunch of perspective correction, they're placed on the top of whiteboards, maybe about 30cm or so out < 1333267386 819131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not quite sure if they're quite /that/ acute < 1333267405 519283 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f70d.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333267643 978405 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-239-136.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333267834 755424 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-114-196.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1333268358 497349 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1333268391 294988 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-239-136.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1333268412 827910 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-239-136.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333269124 369872 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088161004.static.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1333269734 502533 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333269936 857532 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1333270738 539922 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333271990 478192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1333272002 745619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333272157 809428 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f70d.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1333272760 289976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : aimake is no longer vaporware! <-- so does that mean we can soon expect fe *hit by anvil falling through portal from future* < 1333272779 82989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, feather probably can't be written in a week < 1333273339 351362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Sgeo: will i regret clicking that link? elliott: I'll check it for you yes ais523: thanks, I'll click it then < 1333273348 853189 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :836) Sgeo: will i regret clicking that link? elliott: I'll check it for you yes ais523: thanks, I'll click it then < 1333273390 289794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it actually makes sense in context, too, he explained < 1333273407 134907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but funnier without, i assume < 1333273604 267265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : why are these people allowed on my internet <-- to keep them out of the streets. < 1333273622 319701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine the danger they would be in traffic. < 1333273730 766495 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1333273982 55146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo: why the fuck are you reading 3-year-old discussions on reddit <-- r/worstofreddithistory. you know it has to exist... < 1333274173 193649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo: yes, cardinalities of the reals and of infinite strings of elements drawn from a finite alphabet are both aleph-one <-- /me swats ais523 for assuming the continuum hypothesis -----### < 1333274213 489067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think that assumes the continuum hypothesis, aleph-one's defined as the cardinality of reals even if you assume there's more than one smaller infinity < 1333274229 152667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it is not. < 1333274294 829044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aleph-one is defined as the smallest (well-orderable) cardinality larger than aleph-zero. it being == cardinality of reals is _precisely_ the continuum hypothesis. < 1333274339 518234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are however some popular math books which get that wrong. < 1333274383 10368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :beth-one, otoh, is equal to the cardinality of reals, being defined as 2^beth_zero = 2^aleph_zero. < 1333274614 6937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ohhhh, mk is that guy who just wanted to learn monads, not Haskell. <-- "i just want to read shakespeare in the original, not learn english!" < 1333274647 824652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: no guarantee about appropriateness of analogy) < 1333274805 638513 :cheater!~cheater@e181156009.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1333275131 800989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so I have to do something very serious and bureaucratic instead <-- darn, so no deadfish feature? :( < 1333275306 930674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:17:47: What does it mean, "How many IO concepts are there in Haskell"? < 1333275310 226444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:18:08: the point was that it it was a stupid question and so people were laughing at it < 1333275363 529010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't sound stupid if you've heard about the lazy input/monads/iteratees/conduits/pipes mess < 1333275422 689605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and there's frp, several variants. < 1333275474 792370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you mix in the String/Bytestring/lazy Bytestring/Text/lazy Text/vector mess as well... < 1333275542 303864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fortunately does things so trivial he can just stay at the lazy String input level < 1333275553 137156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskelly trivial, that is. < 1333275565 966445 :cheater!~cheater@g231032196.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1333275599 857432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which otoh means i haven't really learned most of the others < 1333275609 682652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-really < 1333275668 412672 :alvur!~alvur@95.57.97.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333275722 803448 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1333275723 324898 NAMES :#esoteric < 1333275726 153734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*alvur@95.57.97.* > 1333275726 176971 NAMES :#esoteric < 1333275726 315026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric alvur :alvur < 1333275746 232608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1333275746 255881 NAMES :#esoteric < 1333275778 937000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i forgot to put in the ban evasion reason < 1333276398 664539 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333277269 387805 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the ban never expire? < 1333277278 324751 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows, maybe he's gone to therapy or something < 1333277430 706783 :cheater!~cheater@g231032196.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1333277632 410823 :cheater!~cheater@p4FD0F27C.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333277822 877369 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1333277861 479125 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333278891 833520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: not if he keeps evading it < 1333278940 961224 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well tru < 1333280855 691549 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333280885 43923 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333281027 622499 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Client Quit < 1333281057 54980 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333281201 838848 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333281220 466619 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333281802 158098 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1333281827 176496 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333282963 667137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1333283104 994533 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1333283109 22953 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333283678 933819 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1333283706 264110 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333283723 55960 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Client Quit < 1333283751 42294 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333283780 670456 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Client Quit < 1333286194 812880 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333286256 432021 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1333286258 248538 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Client Quit < 1333286269 491376 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333286278 972541 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333286290 752375 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1333286426 737896 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :azaq23: problems with irc client? < 1333287447 113284 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I had an issue with the gnome desktop environment (couldn't switch between windows anymore, or click on anything which was outside of the interface of the application I had at the time in the < 1333287447 653733 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreground), which forced me to restart it a few times, and with it the irc client I'm using. I suspect it's somehow connected to a jammed key on my touchpad < 1333287541 621871 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-239-136.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1333287851 303511 :cheater!~cheater@p4FD0F27C.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1333288480 508148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1333288574 506257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy mailman mailing list membership reminders day < 1333288776 396528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But now I want to sidetrack into some of Yesod's underlying philosophy, and demonstrate its incompatibility with cabal. Many people know that Yesod is Hebrew for "Foundation." What you may not realize is that it's also a term from Jewish mysticism. Jewish mysticism, also known as Kaballah, includes the concepts of receiving energy from a source." < 1333288854 190757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : happy mailman mailing list membership reminders day <-- it's april 1, and /that's/ the best you can say? < 1333288959 330603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't participate in internet jackass day, I just observe from the sidelines < 1333288966 984555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is brilliant: http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2012-April/100527.html < 1333288977 129822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is brillianter: http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2012-April/100533.html (only funny if you read the first one first) < 1333289013 951196 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1333289028 547292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the first one a serious proposal with intentionally silly language, or just entirely silly? < 1333289032 194134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too tired to tell them apart < 1333289034 602891 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333289097 274351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's more or less complete nonsense < 1333289135 154850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reply is the sort of thing I'd make, it's a perfectly sensible reply to the post whether it's entirely joke or entirely serious you don't understand or serious disguised as joke < 1333289149 219835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it proposes using /youtube URLs/ as identifiers < 1333289155 555151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :taking it seriously is unforgivable < 1333289158 581105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I noticed that in a footnote < 1333289163 826643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, an appendix < 1333289185 911184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say that the best parts were footnote 4 and appendix A, but then I realised that footnotes 1-1b and all the other appendices were good too < 1333289196 366194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "However, I can only get away with my proof using Scott-free semantics." is the other best bit < 1333289331 603736 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1333289791 544749 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD959E5.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333289823 918101 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-192.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333290022 920635 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7d24.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333290151 764626 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-70.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1333290216 561721 :cheater!~cheater@p57AEB42E.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333290285 768039 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-99.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333290553 951866 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333290662 533571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1333290668 106093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :APRIL FEUELZ!!!112156123786127836123 < 1333290673 701070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you might need to ctrl+f5 it) < 1333290701 318538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that with CSS? < 1333290717 276880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1333290718 144333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, and it even affects edit pages < 1333290727 927800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, which made it quite hard to fix a css error i made the first time < 1333290736 439599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :buttons look really weird upside-down < 1333290748 192059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using useskin=monobook to read the code ;) < 1333290784 368040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :upside-down english looks kinda like ipa < 1333290796 279488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long it would take for that to be reverted if someone did it on Wikipedia < 1333290799 903521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing between 1 and 3 minutes < 1333290818 888600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then five years of arbitration cases < 1333290829 248894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should remove this now < 1333290837 64922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case anyone actually wants to read the wiki < 1333290847 265280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, OK ;) < 1333290926 402772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I have a better idea < 1333290990 160697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: try now < 1333291036 535844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more usable, indeed < 1333291046 251438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and potentially even useful for non-English languages < 1333291052 368745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll leave it like this for a day < 1333291057 814134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, it reminds me of the hebrew wikipedia < 1333291067 752261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: technically this isn't an april fool's, just me fucking with things, since it's after 12pm) < 1333291088 956441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's before 12pm in some places! < 1333291093 821364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how the top vector bar gets confused and slides the view history link in if you have JS enabled < 1333291177 589646 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333291213 250380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't suppose there is any easy way to fix the caching of vector.css < 1333291215 26373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather ruins it < 1333291246 974930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm reasonably sure there's a configuration variable /somewhere/ which invalidates everyone's caches when you bump it < 1333291252 691937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I never dealt with that bit of things < 1333291257 824306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the devs could be made to bump it in emergencies < 1333291273 449919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it uses the old junk query parameter trick) < 1333291429 292544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1333291435 775726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: does http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page look normal to you? < 1333291441 808433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just because i was already on the site that it didn't reload or something < 1333291506 707213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1997 – Marriage in the Netherlands became more samey." -- come on WIkipedia, you can do better than this < 1333291549 837285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, fun fact, you know how Wikipedia's main page is based on date templates? < 1333291557 328302 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they don't update automatically, someone has to purge the page < 1333291563 272720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and today: it was me who did the purge :) < 1333291578 471870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone ever forgotten to? < 1333291630 192280 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b7d24.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1333291633 645945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it'd require /everyone/ to < 1333291638 55631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as it can be done while not logged in < 1333291654 834673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although there's a clickthrough for that, to stop scrapers doing it unintentionally) < 1333291656 386071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only purges were logged, so people could race and use it to start drama < 1333291661 316665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1333291858 495868 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pretty funny text effect < 1333291878 98313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it does work without force-reloading? < 1333291880 154666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1333291907 859349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's my minimum level of contribution for April 1st done < 1333291931 162421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's slashdot's? < 1333291947 412445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NASCAR is supporting Google's new racing division based on autonomous vehicle technology." heh < 1333292242 832597 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1333292273 873211 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333292367 214253 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Client Quit < 1333292423 889436 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 11.0/20120312200651] < 1333292543 475494 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333292552 317644 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Welcome to the International Hub for Esotericism and the Occult | Bringing computer systems from the astral plane since 1692! | Need some guidance on spirit projection? Elliott is the local expert, go to him first. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1333292708 281672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, it would have been an actually good gag to rewrite the main page to be about esoterica < 1333292712 712125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably too late now < 1333292833 465557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time RocketJSquirrel < 1333292834 388057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for RocketJSquirrel is Sun Apr 1 11:06:45 < 1333292843 102763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's on the other side of america to RocketJSquirrel? < 1333292850 847376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time shachaf < 1333292853 615747 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Sun Apr 1 08:07:03 2012 < 1333292856 174782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough < 1333292982 937226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time ais523 < 1333292983 613530 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for ais523 is Sun Apr 1 16:09:15 2012 < 1333292988 601808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1333293033 565935 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's April 1 pretty well everywhere that matters. < 1333293067 565388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to know how much april 1st there was left tho < 1333293069 604184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time fizzie < 1333293071 142989 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for fizzie is Sun Apr 1 18:10:41 2012 < 1333293072 155686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time clog < 1333293072 893160 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for clog is Sun Apr 1 08:11:05 2012 < 1333293077 533177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog responds to TIME? < 1333293090 506585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Phantom_Hoover < 1333293091 186190 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Phantom_Hoover is Sun Apr 01 16:11:00 < 1333293092 428975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Patashu < 1333293093 725746 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Patashu is Mon Apr 02 01:11:05 2012 < 1333293096 924699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHA < 1333293100 278664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BURN THE WITCH < 1333293138 546428 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1333293140 297792 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did it knooow < 1333293146 157542 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must return to my own timeline now < 1333293178 111722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your client betrayed you. < 1333293404 436388 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333293767 251921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1333293774 69749 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1333293819 618885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Welcome to the international hub for esotericism and the occult! For more information, check out our wiki: http://www.demonicpedia.com/' >wisdom/welcome < 1333293823 142403 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1333293835 590777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth hand < 1333293849 977498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, found it < 1333293859 897018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to ask how lambdabot knew my timezone, but there was obivously a ctcp somewhere < 1333293860 58552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :found what? < 1333293863 322126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1333293864 791255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTCP TIME < 1333293870 811475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was looking for which channel it had been reported in < 1333293882 518775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back, btw < 1333293900 217825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME HELPLESS_NEWBIE < 1333293903 800796 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELPLESS_NEWBIE: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERICISM AND THE OCCULT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://WWW.DEMONICPEDIA.COM/ < 1333293911 785950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll make them feel welcome < 1333293942 725678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, nobody actually comes in here most days < 1333293945 61579 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? Esolangs front page is normal again < 1333294003 548306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does demonicpedia actually exist? < 1333294006 259045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome test < 1333294007 874174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1333294009 550305 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :test: Welcome to the international hub for esotericism and the occult! For more information, check out our wiki: http://www.demonicpedia.com/ < 1333294012 67992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: is it? < 1333294014 693721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1333294015 99124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try ctrl+f5 or such < 1333294017 896694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like thatchange < 1333294023 410358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's unlikely to matter < 1333294025 388376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: probably caching < 1333294073 606063 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellitt: I cleared my cache < 1333294145 39916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: same browser? < 1333294176 582192 :cheater!~cheater@p57AEB42E.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1333294269 474644 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have tried it with Camino 2.1 (cleared cache) and links2 and both seem normal < 1333294318 452069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which browser did you see the effect in first time? < 1333294329 898718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect Camino is just too old to understand the CSS. < 1333294383 372713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Silly Opera user ping < 1333294484 277069 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? I'm not silly! < 1333294487 819549 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The real trick would have been to make the wiki not quite about esotericism, but esoLANGS, where eso means esotericism :) < 1333294494 675910 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I saw it with TenFourFox. Camino is based on Gecko 1.9.2 by the way < 1333294530 154567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/CSS/transform#Browser_compatibility Looks like it should work, then < 1333294538 978563 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1333294545 472157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: What's esolangs.org look like to you < 1333294552 649794 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: looks entirely normal < 1333294574 457886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Force-reload it? (so the CSS reloads) < 1333294579 870389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Opera: Clear the cache in Tools → Preferences" < 1333294582 528782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol Opera sux < 1333294586 580161 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-167-133.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like april fool < 1333294599 528585 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1333294599 976786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: No, April Fool's ends at 12 pm. < 1333294611 194075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: This is just me deciding to fuck the wiki up. < 1333294620 98987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am free of all cultural expectations. < 1333294667 364568 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1333294678 171891 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually I'm using the fool CSS, it's just wrong < 1333294696 228581 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-167-133.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott : You so are culturally expected < 1333294697 558953 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-167-133.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :You tool < 1333294698 454511 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invalid value for property: -o-transform < 1333294704 899814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: opera v.? < 1333294720 392698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :11.62 < 1333294732 612038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1333294740 846082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mdn sez 10.5 up work with -o- < 1333294741 501231 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                            | < 1333294741 694589 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                            >\ < 1333294744 771785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1333294745 253347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: does it recognise the "transform"? < 1333294748 645385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it doesn't recognise the -o-transform < 1333294846 336784 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's spelled rotate in -o-transform < 1333294894 439310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: eh? < 1333294895 985856 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/presto24/css/transforms/ anyway < 1333294910 490322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they don't support rotateY? < 1333294936 842090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! apparently neither does mozilla < 1333294939 192386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh bu < 1333294939 552287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1333294941 577402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works in ff, so < 1333294947 385142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :confused < 1333294955 548814 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ff picks up the webkit transform instead < 1333294969 401909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, but < 1333294970 803438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"matrix(, , , , , ) < 1333294970 970669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifies a 2D transformation in the form of a transformation matrix of six values. matrix(a,b,c,d,e,f) is equivalent to applying the transformation matrix [a b c d e f]." < 1333294982 723271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: patches welcome, i'm too lazy to work out the matrix < 1333294986 354276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sunday, day of rest < 1333294988 322898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :day of doing nothing < 1333295224 604655 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure what the transform is supposed to do though... is that rotateY thing the same as scaleX(-1)? < 1333295235 989082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that works with -o-transform < 1333295282 596096 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, opera doesn't do 3D transforms (yet?), only the 2D transforms < 1333295314 347274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's meant to flip the page horizontally < 1333295323 170470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not 3d < 1333295344 266330 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotating around the Y axis means rotating it in 3d? < 1333295375 749413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you could say that... or it's just subtracting the coordinate from the width < 1333295383 268823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the "3d transform" stuff < 1333295400 781654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, scaleX(-1) does it, thanks < 1333295400 943163 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotateY is a 3d transform < 1333295433 309921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: olsner: nortti: try now < 1333295544 945282 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it works now < 1333295616 713060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yessssssssss < 1333295619 18244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even in links? :P < 1333295643 922839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1333295644 637593 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Sun Apr 1 16:54:02 < 1333295666 899293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'll leave my wiki settings at UTC < 1333295704 339428 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: contents on the page are not flipped, but navigational links are < 1333295763 966061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What... in *links*? < 1333295875 925899 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I thought you meand links in the page < 1333295889 989117 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1333295890 846954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :D < 1333295896 249937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the content is meant to be unflipped. < 1333295906 401084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be very impressed if links flipped the text :P < 1333295934 570661 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I tried it and it didn't < 1333296333 851882 :cheater!~cheater@p57AEB85F.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333296793 597119 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333296823 376656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: help, I'm getting used to the new Esolang layout already < 1333296841 639342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: abort, ignore, retry, fail? < 1333296862 649103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the difference between abort and fail, anyway < 1333296891 725348 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If I remember corretly fail stopped the running program < 1333297170 232197 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://support.microsoft.com/kb/67586 < 1333297234 560088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Okay, that makes sense < 1333297242 977155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So retry and fail are the only sane ones < 1333297412 840667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually, abort stopped the running program; fail caused the libc or equivalent to return a failure code < 1333297425 319613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore caused it to return a success code, and retry is obvious < 1333297479 782882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, that's what Deewiant's link said. < 1333297498 244215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that was from memory, I didn't follow the link < 1333297500 902908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I may as well < 1333297526 724413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This article applies to a different operating system than the one you are using. Article content that may not be relevant to you is disabled." < 1333297535 586286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to love Microsoft Support :) < 1333297560 139141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does Did You Know? usually change a billion times per day? < 1333297565 193689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia's appears to be... somewhat in flux < 1333297576 362799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it normally gets updated five or six times a day < 1333297583 625342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, really? < 1333297590 805947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit fast < 1333297663 117571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intent is to put every new article that it's at all possible to write a decent hook for on there < 1333297766 589741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, what is wrong with this template? < 1333297774 156475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm < 1333297935 396398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Approximately_64,695_Pounds_of_Shark_Fins < 1333297942 996777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK, this is the best article title on Wikipedia, no question < 1333297983 235499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a huge debate about what to do about april 1's "on this day" < 1333297991 314494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of legitimate events happening on april 1 never getting a chance < 1333297999 246643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the conclusion was to list the events but with silly descriptions < 1333298012 749998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please! please, no discussion that isn't about that perfect title < 1333298073 929927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should read the article attached to it, the event is vaguely ridiculous too < 1333299262 689064 :cheater!~cheater@p57AEB85F.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1333300168 197789 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This crazy idea just came to my mind: Wait until all support on Windows XP has ended and then buy rights to MS-DOS source code from microsoft and after that relase it under wtfpl < 1333300235 912593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1333300313 878530 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait until support of xp has ended (xp still uses MS-DOS in its boot floppy) and after that buy MS-DOS from microsoft < 1333300330 396750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure why you think it would be for sale < 1333300369 325717 :nortti!~juhani@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you notice this: "This crazy idea" < 1333300406 60017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1333301018 377592 :cheater!~cheater@p57AEB8A3.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333301056 208639 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-114-192.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1333301644 581368 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333301652 64383 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1333301692 731731 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1333301721 66942 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333301737 420314 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I felt like writing a BF Joust interpreter/genetic creator in Haskell. < 1333301764 450840 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got 82 lines, including 10 imported modules and 2 language extensions that do absolutely nothing < 1333301768 437301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genetic BF Joust has gone well approximately 0 times. < 1333301849 154310 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1333301850 135093 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088161004.static.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only approximately! < 1333301860 184950 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1333302034 346140 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF Joust programs written by Taneb have gone well approximately 0 times < 1333302060 925055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME TANEB < 1333302065 457768 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :TANEB: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERICISM AND THE OCCULT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://WWW.DEMONICPEDIA.COM/ < 1333302071 620598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAVE YOU SEEN THE WIKI TODAY, BY THE WAY? < 1333302081 85895 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1333302097 335033 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT TOOK ME A SECOND TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON < 1333302240 70277 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333302282 883689 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333303171 97329 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329fb1.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333303180 882116 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-220-66.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333303193 787304 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-99.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1333303413 364609 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333303446 854248 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1333303471 264387 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333303723 87659 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1333304884 599022 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1333304965 892027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Phantom_Hoover! NetHack 4.0.0 just came out! < 1333304968 725434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/261849837d0d8e42 < 1333304976 400935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1333304978 148063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Phantom_Hoover! NetHack 4.1.0 just came out! < 1333304979 320666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/ade3da9173a7cc2a < 1333304984 571587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Phantom_Hoover! NetHack 4.2.0 just came out! < 1333304985 818531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/cb0da1bf9d2c0ba1 < 1333305038 45122 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1333305043 442929 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack < 1333305045 471208 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does nethack < 1333305048 185758 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still have updates < 1333305053 588513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT DOES NOW < 1333305069 24747 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : * Core game engine code has completely rewritten [4] < 1333305073 291267 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH THANK GOD < 1333305260 608336 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333305281 91174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: HEY I GOT THIS NEW SPIRIT PROJECTOR BUT IT WON'T WORK WITH WINDOWS XP D: < 1333305296 10413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME OERJAN < 1333305299 725945 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OERJAN: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERICISM AND THE OCCULT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://WWW.DEMONICPEDIA.COM/ < 1333305303 563147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S ALL IN THE WIKI < 1333305304 757969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1333305318 383871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAVE YOU SEEN THE WIKI TODAY, BY THE WAY < 1333305319 749053 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088161004.static.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333305319 910502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE OTHER ONE I MEAN < 1333305323 403072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERIC < 1333305326 795788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT PEOPLE KEEP COMING IN HERE FOR < 1333305329 131877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOME PROGRAMMING NONSENSE < 1333305361 206413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT SINCE LAST I WAS HERE, WHEN IT LOOKED DISAPPOINTINGLY NORMAL < 1333305402 261556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES I FIXED THAT < 1333305404 20577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PERMANENTLY < 1333305419 710342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERM YOU MIGHT NEED A NEWER IE VERSION THAN YOU HAVE NOT SURE < 1333305432 757777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1333305450 550642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ps april fooles < 1333305455 982509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well does it still look normal < 1333305485 471279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it does. < 1333305515 935311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: try Ctrl-F5 < 1333305560 535932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still no difference < 1333305588 979645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie version? < 1333305629 400853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie 8 < 1333305649 313439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which afaik is the latest which works with xp, btw) < 1333305672 236589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, gimme a minute < 1333305687 925036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no peeking until i fix :p < 1333305773 191311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok try ctrl+f5 now < 1333305823 799189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i think i messed it up < 1333305853 424256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: try now < 1333305874 512287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is at least a difference now ... the background color is changed and the scrollbar doesn't work :P < 1333305885 741351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pgdn < 1333305892 305735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, what happens to the background? < 1333305916 605474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as the sidebar now < 1333305926 929420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1333305928 994894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a screenshot, please? < 1333305937 658061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going by MS' documentation, which might be wrong < 1333305959 371245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION installs IE in Wine to test it himself < 1333305959 604342 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-157-169.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333305991 26631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ies4linux? < 1333306007 909016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: unmaintained IIRC < 1333306014 738664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think winetricks can do it < 1333306070 342772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a screenshot would still be useful, though < 1333306110 120494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, omploader for today's front page (nsfw) < 1333306145 244856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vZDg0bg/screenshot.PNG < 1333306185 728586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it just lists the most-accessed files < 1333306195 766977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks < 1333306196 829028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i guess. < 1333306223 226967 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nsfw? < 1333306230 641324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not safe for work < 1333306233 78850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very much so < 1333306236 843071 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i missing midget porn somewher < 1333306238 962557 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :e in the pic < 1333306242 655902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1333306256 995453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it looks ok in my wine-installed ie8, but i suspect it might be using gecko < 1333306261 829359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's porn indeed, i couldn't tell if it was midgets. < 1333306280 770356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try ies4linux < 1333306305 643446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ies4linux only goes up to 5 < 1333306306 354416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 < 1333306318 626800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and doesn't work with latest wine < 1333306364 733884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (i can disable it for now if you want to browse the wiki) < 1333306378 789689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: oh i wasn't linking to the porn, that's on ompldr's front page < 1333306408 673339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan keeps all his midget porn to himself < 1333306413 702861 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay no midgets there < 1333306428 435888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333306439 920701 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen enough naked midgets to know immediately < 1333306445 121468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh list of ideas has a scrollbar but only allows a part of the article :P < 1333306460 817092 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, watcher of naked midgets < 1333306461 15806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Can you tell me how to spirit project a computer? < 1333306463 447791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've removed it temporarily, lemme fix this < 1333306474 79501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME ZZO38 < 1333306477 418258 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZZO38: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERICISM AND THE OCCULT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://WWW.DEMONICPEDIA.COM/ < 1333306479 865612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: This is a very frequently asked question, check our wiki for more information! < 1333306614 56328 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It mentions nothing about how to spirit project a computer. (Searching for the term "computer" leads to no results) < 1333306624 868441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: heh are you trying to make it mirrored? the yafgc webcomic did that today too (although only to the comic itself and the title) < 1333306637 461240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I said no peeking >:( < 1333306662 740932 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1333306678 755351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: erm ok. i had already clicked on the history diff so it was open in a tab < 1333306694 612595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That counts as peeking :P < 1333306700 574680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1333306713 557124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries IE7 instead < 1333306753 630648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that failed < 1333306808 152201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hey, do you have any IE? < 1333306819 645308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have IE6, but don't use it while connected to the internet < 1333306868 465109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You know, Chrome and Firefox are pretty nice... < 1333306879 739541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DON'T SAY < 1333306991 125429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok could you try now (this is just a test version to see what happens) < 1333307042 730647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :background still different, but scrollbar works now :P < 1333307049 932776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and now? < 1333307065 366522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no difference < 1333307086 604698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1333307112 644691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try now < 1333307128 925558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yawn* < 1333307153 45695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1333307158 224661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no difference < 1333307165 835765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it's not my fault IE is weird < 1333307222 440215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it doesn't have to be IE's fault. maybe it interprets _several_ of those transforms i shouldn't peek at, and there are an even number so they cancel out < 1333307234 255658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION trusting < 1333307394 446544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok try *now* < 1333307447 454448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a true master of indistinguishible subtlety < 1333307451 692853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a < 1333307486 547105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1333307488 386238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, i give up. your browser is completely broken. it obeys neither the specification, nor its own documentation < 1333307496 150699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i checked another page, the language list. < 1333307504 121599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you *were* ctrl+f5ing all this time, right? < 1333307515 311724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i think so. < 1333307530 585321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok what does the language list look like < 1333307541 16946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the page looks _almost_ normal, except for the small detail that the title is at the bottom, upside down. < 1333307566 655952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf. < 1333307574 448612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenshot? < 1333307578 448539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the main page has no title, i didn't notice it there :P < 1333307583 490082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and is there a space where the title should be at the top?) < 1333307605 991089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes there is < 1333307655 547851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, screenshot pls :P < 1333307660 907007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is weird < 1333307825 127492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/tQIHz < 1333307907 489465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1333307908 802302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's impressive < 1333308005 822878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok i just changed the effect to something else for IE < 9. < 1333308009 669972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe *that* will work. < 1333308133 910586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it? :P < 1333308186 119910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing noticeable < 1333308216 767976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1333308229 721497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess you'll just have to live without any fancy tricks < 1333308234 874724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION guesses him using IE 8 is the universe's april fool's joke on elliott < 1333308276 35867 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1333308380 45018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the one suffering < 1333308507 547554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always. < 1333308670 292455 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still prefer ie over firefox, although i have to admit chrome is the nicest invention in the world. because you can drag and drop tabs. < 1333308701 548857 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(opera has had drag-and-drop tabs since like forever) < 1333308719 535427 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: You can do that on firefox < 1333308723 64620 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i haven't tried it < 1333308726 417178 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1333308737 795430 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess if i tried everything now, ie would finally lose < 1333308750 40402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: opera users are so cute < 1333308751 829945 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except for the fact it's much more stable than firefox in my experience) < 1333308753 716359 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: :) < 1333308762 478476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: enjoy ur market share < 1333308786 459717 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: when did you try firefox < 1333308820 707006 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: a couple of years ago < 1333308849 125943 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to use ie until it did something annoying, and then switched to firefox until it did something annoying < 1333308860 776244 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then back to ie < 1333308879 945380 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: Try it again. Firefox 3.* was terrible < 1333308883 508247 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it usually took less than a day for firefox to do something stupid so finally i stopped using it < 1333308914 708732 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then at some point i tried chrome but on my laptop, all of its options windows were too big for my screen, and i couldn't close them < 1333308948 219122 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have a big screen now, and chrome hasn't done anything annoying since i bought this computer < 1333308951 684432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox 2 was terrible too, as far as memory usage/stability goes. < 1333308952 449137 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for over half a year < 1333308982 773582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: funny, since chrome doesn't actually use pref windows any more < 1333309021 81553 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that funny? < 1333309046 36391 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obviously i know since it's the only browser i use < 1333309061 335389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's funny if you bought the new computer to run chrome < 1333309063 682286 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I had no problem with it. I actually maintained a version of Iceweasel 2 up to 2011 and then I switched to Iceweasel 4 < 1333309065 749901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't said otherwise so i'll assume you did < 1333309075 561279 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1333309119 881732 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i paid 2000 euros for a computer so i could try a browser that did something extremely annoying during the first minute i tried it. < 1333309134 220814 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just that oklo. < 1333309187 957486 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: You can get computer that can run Chrome for 10€ < 1333309225 652961 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just to make things clear, i was prefectly happy with ie, i bought this computer _for no reason_. < 1333309244 751631 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i decided to try chrome again for lulz. but turned out it was awesome. < 1333309257 984682 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333309306 67354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet it runs minecraft better than your older one < 1333309373 200035 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1333309387 81015 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i tried minecraft i was like what the fuck I CAN SEE MOUNTAINS < 1333309397 292421 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHOTO FUCKING REALISM < 1333309423 865768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/data-ordlist/0.4.5/doc/html/Data-List-Ordered.html oh, there's a package for this! < 1333309432 196312 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can open like *two* minesweepers at once < 1333309475 306199 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329fb1.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you already tried the 8 bit version of google maps? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF8BsdGaK3c < 1333309475 503720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My DVI typesetting stuff in Haskell seem to do glue setting wrong. Is findBreaks wrong? findBreaks True f (h : t) | isJust (castNode h :: Maybe GlueNode) = ((\(x, y, z) -> (succ x, addGlue y (fst $ f h), z)) <$> findBreaks (isNodeDiscardable h) f t); findBreaks b f (h : t) = maybe id (\x -> ((0, fixedGlue 0, x) :)) (snd $ f h) ((\(x, y, z) -> (succ x, addGlue y (fst $ f h), z)) <$> findBreaks (isNodeDiscardable h) f t); < 1333309509 935191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1333309586 800698 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my browser history goes something like this: IE6 -> Firefox 2 -> Firefox 3 -> Firebird -> K-Meleon -> Iceweasel 2 with patches -> Konqueror, Iceweasel 2 with patches, Links2 -> Iceweasel 4, Links2 -> TenFourFox 5-11, Camino, Links2 < 1333309688 723335 :nortti_!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti_ < 1333309692 413821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pffft, I used Firefox before you! < 1333309794 67167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION used NCSA Mosaic so there < 1333309884 514433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, fuck you, I used WorldWideWeb. < 1333309892 386470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least I tried to. Once. < 1333309913 634917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1333309935 424460 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used ie before it was cool < 1333309937 890437 :oklofok!~nnscript@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my windows 3.11 < 1333309996 313431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first web browser i used was either ie 5.something or ie 6. < 1333310011 271995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this findBreaks looks wrong? < 1333310023 268205 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329fb1.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie6 is the worst browser ever < 1333310069 469640 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329fb1.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least you need all kind of hacks to make your site support it < 1333310105 668135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: If you are just using simple HTML stuff it should be support in anything < 1333310106 809895 :Tiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik NICK :Urist_McTiktalik < 1333310112 327075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: Please. You've clearly never seen IE 5. < 1333310115 711217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Netscape 4. < 1333310128 123487 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333310128 799945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urist_McTiktalik: DORF < 1333310152 302048 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION DORF < 1333310171 848079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very good. < 1333310209 124621 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329fb1.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great zzo38.. that really relieves me < 1333310255 623403 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who Urist_McTiktalik < 1333310280 216299 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION DORF < 1333310282 921062 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't tell me you've made a DF-IRC bridge < 1333310283 82358 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all you need to know. < 1333310290 305303 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What < 1333310312 698399 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is aware that that doens't make much sense < 1333310321 448876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did you appear here, anyway? I keep seeing you join and leave and I'm all "who's this Tiktalik guy". < 1333310324 937691 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although... a bot that tells IRC stuff that happens in a game < 1333310385 227038 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333310385 687049 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329fb1.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1333310386 196540 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1333310398 577866 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm just Tiktalik < 1333310402 989051 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :the enigmatic person who hardly talks < 1333310410 384148 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it..my power supply is messed up < 1333310415 714948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urist_McTiktalik: Are you... a ghost? < 1333310464 445647 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliott: afaik netscape4 supports the the wc3 conventions better than ie6 < 1333310508 282321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: You have *clearly* never used Netscape 4. < 1333310539 863989 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't remember.. maybe 15 years ago < 1333310566 127881 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know which version it was < 1333310631 315723 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a book, "DHTML for Dummies" < 1333310716 242242 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talked about IE4 and Netscape 4 < 1333310717 58915 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1333310780 428684 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333310787 29535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he's a demonic fishlike creature < 1333310789 463525 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1333310905 543139 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My BF Joust thing is now 213 lines < 1333310951 111325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, findBreaks is correct; that is not the reason for the wrong glue setting. < 1333310969 948924 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The looping code is unfinished, and it just executes 1 step and says it's a tie at the moment < 1333310974 458702 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's getting there < 1333311516 437812 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1333311844 142678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333312404 650460 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you familiar with stenography techniques? i can't find the hidden text in this picture :( https://www.wechall.net/challenge/training/stegano/caterpillar/caterpillar.png < 1333312479 802638 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the author pretends it to be an easy one.. now i feel really stupid < 1333312508 9433 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333312529 109662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he hasn't seen mtve in a while < 1333312593 883740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: today's special challenge, or something? < 1333312603 569351 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeed < 1333312608 959887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so. < 1333312696 849523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows little about steganography but ihrc things are sometimes hidden in the lower bits < 1333312814 823098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ping < 1333312815 151515 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've tried to cut off the last 2 bits in each pixel already..without success < 1333312838 77352 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but today being today, there might not even be a hidden message < 1333312843 615314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: shhh < 1333312927 907722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and there's metadata, maybe < 1333312955 908720 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, pong < 1333312962 465069 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No comment. < 1333312975 780142 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay.. i will try harder. thanks so far :> < 1333312983 556409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You are subscribed to spoon-*, right? < 1333312989 661986 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I .. believe so < 1333313008 345616 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, I remember subscribing to and participating in B stuff, and don't remember unsubscribing < 1333313009 680114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urist_McTiktalik: OUT, FOUL DEMONIAN CREATURE < 1333313011 80542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I would appreciate it if you could reply to my two recent determinations (to s-b) saying you agree with them, thanks! < 1333313030 350836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("I agree with both of ehird's pending determinations." in a message on its own would work fine.) < 1333313035 770163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK! I got the gloe setting fixed by now. (The mistake was that the datatypes I used were not large enough to store the intermediate results) < 1333313047 717956 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I assume this is a scam of some sort < 1333313054 134421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Nope. < 1333313063 938364 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm not a ghost. >_> < 1333313072 423191 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck I'm not even sure what here is < 1333313082 711574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Urist_McTiktalik < 1333313085 871922 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urist_McTiktalik: Welcome to the international hub for esotericism and the occult! For more information, check out our wiki: http://www.demonicpedia.com/ < 1333313086 510325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOPE THIS HELPS < 1333313097 661093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you really don't know what this place is and want a serious answer, see http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1333313139 878232 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Okay, so it is actually what I thought it was. I was a bit confused >_> < 1333313180 293465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the demonicpedia does not even tell you how to spirit project a computer anyways (I doubt anyone on this channel knows about that kind of stuff). < 1333313187 896129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urist_McTiktalik: NO YOU ARE A FOUL FISH CREATURE FROM THE DEMONIAN < 1333313189 207725 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well thats a good point to start Urist_McTiktalik < 1333313285 465108 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, yeah < 1333313294 948483 :Urist_McTiktalik!znc@unaffiliated/tiktalik PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a dude who likes esoteric programming languages < 1333313312 559385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urist_McTiktalik: Good, because we have a lot of those. < 1333314223 259969 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333314278 352982 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333315025 292890 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333315721 95741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1333315815 750465 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1333315828 570835 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had things on my mind, sorry < 1333315846 537731 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although my BF Joust genetic thingy is nearing completion! < 1333315851 614095 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It needs a little tweaking, though < 1333315861 260606 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best program it's came up with is "+" < 1333315892 908838 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333315898 918962 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1333316135 945092 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1333316543 253549 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1333317262 789333 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1333317627 348348 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db4109b.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1333317627 765273 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b12.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1333317628 317586 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db4109b.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1333317740 11034 :augur!~augur@206.196.186.2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333318629 634648 :Frooxius_!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1333318742 651886 :Frooxius_!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333318767 404455 :Frooxius_!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1333318792 100371 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1333318793 551964 :Frooxius_!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1333319303 445144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1333319442 52647 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-67-67.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1333319669 360905 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1333319695 846191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH is leaving for Canada. < 1333319706 615134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover Hope you're having fun in Mexico! < 1333319706 859317 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1333320101 3896 :derdon!~derdon@p4FD959E5.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1333320885 628944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which province? < 1333321224 26472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Chile. < 1333321799 759202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1333321800 498606 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Mon Apr 2 00:09:57 < 1333321867 907587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 QUIT :Quit: Sorry, no more ink in the computer < 1333324732 436524 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric