< 1330732825 528339 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^swat hmm < 1330732825 714631 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats hmm -----###.
< 1330732843 188607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat bf +.++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>-.++.+++++++++++++++++.-----------.++++++.-.>>-.<+++++.++++.<+++++++++++++++++++.>---.-.>.>>,[.,]<<.>+.....<+++...-------------------------.[-]+. < 1330732843 375812 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1330732850 695454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^swat now < 1330732850 882044 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats now -----###.
< 1330732853 834230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1330732871 727117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the final . ? < 1330732875 886972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION knows why.
< 1330732883 496220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1330732892 478619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat bf +.++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>-.++.+++++++++++++++++.-----------.++++++.-.>>-.<+++++.++++.<+++++++++++++++++++.>---.-.>.>>,[.,]<<.>+.....<+++...[-]+. < 1330732892 665305 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1330732896 916522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^swat now < 1330732897 102970 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats now -----###
< 1330732934 469666 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1330732996 305009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat swat swat < 1330732996 491821 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def < 1330733028 946876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat bf +.++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>-.++.+++++++++++++++++.-----------.++++++.-.>>-.<+++++.++++.<+++++++++++++++++++.>---.-.>.>>,[--------------------------------[++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]],]<<.>+.....<+++...[-]+. < 1330733029 133623 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1330733034 855270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^swat test < 1330733035 41792 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats test -----###
< 1330733038 792560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^swat elliott < 1330733038 979412 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats elliott -----###
< 1330733042 564084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1330733051 153759 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^swat elliott < 1330733051 340287 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats elliott -----###
< 1330733058 166926 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it works. < 1330733058 353413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat ul ! < 1330733058 353611 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1330733079 421648 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat forth 1 EMIT ." ACTION swats " [BEGIN] KEY EMIT KEY? 0= [UNTIL] ." -----###" < 1330733079 608203 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def < 1330733099 390673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think elliott has a negative feeling about ^swat for some incomprehensible reason < 1330733100 666123 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat ul < 1330733100 852893 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def < 1330733107 812220 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat sh < 1330733107 998826 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^list languages < 1330733107 999094 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def < 1330733109 868292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hereby mandate that ^swat can only return under that Forth form. < 1330733121 879431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan will just have to implement Forth in Befunge-98 if he wants it. < 1330733139 685830 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat false < 1330733139 872421 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def < 1330733147 171467 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like lots of FUN has been had in the channel tonight < 1330733157 825273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: only bf and ul are implemented languages < 1330733202 546060 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: O, there is no language extensions either? < 1330733245 173302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they're both implemented in funge-98 in fungot's source < 1330733245 898646 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm having a big bang theory!!! you die...", and then having each entry be a 16-bit cons cell. also popular: ' lst' for lists. < 1330733266 341227 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat bf +1 EMIT ." ACTION swats "++++++++++[BEGIN>++++++>++++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-] KEY EMIT KEY? 0= >-.++.+++++++++++++++++.-----------.++++++.-.>>-.<+++++.++++.<+++++++++++++++++++.>---.-.>.>>,[UNTIL--------------------------------[++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]],]<< .">+.....<+++...[-]+. -----###" < 1330733266 528140 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1330733271 387467 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^swat elliott < 1330733271 574257 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats elliott -----###
< 1330733281 427663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat bf < 1330733281 614986 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def < 1330733283 762141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat bf swat < 1330733283 948866 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1330733289 670862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: very elegant < 1330733314 113014 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott just hates. < 1330733322 421239 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you trying to cinfuse things? < 1330733342 504663 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^elliott < 1330733353 337519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1330733356 444560 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? < 1330733370 680186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw fix http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=AutoMouse&curid=1235&diff=30864&oldid=30819 thanks < 1330733371 293482 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zzo38 < 1330733374 400006 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem. < 1330733437 11719 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is probably easier to implement Forth without GNU extensions, anyways < 1330733461 263536 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^forth < 1330733465 382432 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where forth < 1330733465 570653 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about forth. < 1330733469 744381 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@go forth < 1330733469 933504 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: google googleit do < 1330733474 405590 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@do < 1330733474 594378 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :() < 1330733479 142030 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@do (,) < 1330733479 332293 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(,) < 1330733483 562071 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@do x >>= x < 1330733483 750606 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do { a <- x; x a} < 1330733497 28733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type ?x >>= ?x < 1330733497 781790 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Top level: < 1330733497 969802 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a = a -> b < 1330733498 156259 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: a -> a < 1330733516 271948 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words, we need infinite types support. < 1330734368 900090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCaml has that. < 1330734431 115565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/124343/how-to-fix-it-if-your-variables-arent-passing < 1330735264 269650 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1330735610 343134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it was removed? < 1330735629 372622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also mm, waffles < 1330735673 648260 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^swat swat < 1330735683 501238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You missed it. < 1330735696 333758 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def swat bf +1 EMIT ." ACTION swats "++++++++++[BEGIN>++++++>++++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-] KEY EMIT KEY? 0= >-.++.+++++++++++++++++.-----------.++++++.-.>>-.<+++++.++++.<+++++++++++++++++++.>---.-.>.>>,[UNTIL--------------------------------[++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]],]<< .">+.....<+++...[-]+. -----###" < 1330735696 520428 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1330735701 416982 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^swat elliott < 1330735701 604280 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats elliott -----###
< 1330735705 987826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: AAA < 1330735708 520302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION screenshots.
< 1330735735 904475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1330735761 690218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vY3d4cA < 1330735825 613495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1330735952 89761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Pingyping. < 1330736008 126652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets an ingenious idea.
< 1330736085 799837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "abc" >>= flip replicateM_ [0..] < 1330736086 560253 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Char' < 1330736086 748009 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type... < 1330736096 946238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1330736106 30633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [0..] >>= (`replicateM` "abc") < 1330736106 818396 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["","a","b","c","aa","ab","ac","ba","bb","bc","ca","cb","cc","aaa","aab","a... < 1330736128 541344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..] >>= (`replicateM` "abc") < 1330736129 356922 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["a","b","c","aa","ab","ac","ba","bb","bc","ca","cb","cc","aaa","aab","aac"... < 1330736148 336883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm pretty sure that one's been done here before < 1330736149 244421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1..] >>= (`replicateM` "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz012346789") < 1330736153 844243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..] >>= (`replicateM` "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz012346789") < 1330736154 582555 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["a","b","c","d","e","f","g","h","i","j","k","l","m","n","o","p","q","r","s... < 1330736175 107987 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:48 < copumpkin> > [0..] >>= (`replicateM` ['a'..'z']) -- fine < 1330736219 623422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some times with =<< iirc < 1330736488 884534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo, it works < 1330736523 636802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody minds if I wildly abuse solidity's network connection, right? < 1330736667 409069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's good. < 1330736795 460301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's your connection < 1330736979 441885 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330737006 682419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome itidus21 < 1330737009 110980 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1330737034 753717 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i know which type of esoteric this is < 1330737062 94514 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330737063 985304 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330737113 86865 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330737130 548224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ itidus21 ? esoteric < 1330737133 546303 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net. < 1330737552 254959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An `MVar`" < 1330737553 744276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is like a burri… wait, wrong tutorial. < 1330737569 252593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION strangles irssi
< 1330737868 587556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wat < 1330737950 368874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> replicateM 3 "abc" < 1330737951 179595 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["aaa","aab","aac","aba","abb","abc","aca","acb","acc","baa","bab","bac","b... < 1330738514 532918 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-009-187.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1330738558 752707 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89358.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330738631 656220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "An `MVar` is like a burri… wait, wrong tutorial." < 1330738645 351167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote from parallel haskell digest < 1330738667 280947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1330738716 839107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also wants to strangle the haskell designers for not making a raw string syntax
< 1330738744 909063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: use a TH qq package? < 1330738786 974851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i couldn't find an appropriate one. < 1330738853 309607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made such a module myself though < 1330738853 975745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's an ehird SO answer for that(tm) < 1330738854 642453 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did put , on my own idea of programming language, the syntax for string literals that can be heredocs. Possibly later version of GHC might also add extensions for such things < 1330738889 773682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: let me dig it up :P < 1330738906 221590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8956801/which-haskell-library-for-interpolated-strings (I cover ones that can't do interpolation too) < 1330738913 344242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though with an interpolated one you only have to worry about, like, ${ and |] < 1330738919 34420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are probably unlikely strings for you < 1330738944 697662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed those are not legal Qdeql syntax :P < 1330738969 875781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except that Qdeql treats everything else as comments. < 1330738983 565550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has ~10 minutes to learn how to use screen
< 1330738993 464111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott@solidity:~$ screen < 1330738993 650562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$TERM too long - sorry. < 1330738993 650774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott@solidity:~$ echo $TERM < 1330738993 650880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rxvt-unicode-256color < 1330739004 704194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose interpolation _might_ be nice < 1330739079 424372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how do you detach a screen session < 1330739089 400429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never used screen < 1330739091 989627 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^a d is my preferred method < 1330739118 733282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ok, where does that put the file thing? < 1330739125 882351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. how do i re-attach < 1330739143 509234 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen -r < 1330739148 336130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1330739148 522630 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :reattaches last session < 1330739153 57080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works even past ssh reconnects, right? < 1330739161 528799 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1330739165 452804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1330739223 93059 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you will be attaching from multiple devices, and don't want to have to remember whether you detached or not < 1330739226 50404 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :use screen -dr < 1330739241 315387 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(detach from elsewhere and reattach here) < 1330739282 582799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't be < 1330739299 771211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just so I can leave mplayer running without having to be connected all the time, and still be able to check on it easily < 1330739305 875994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1330739375 10812 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-051-060.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330739389 238114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh string-qq looks almost like what i wrote < 1330739407 642890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a few enhancements < 1330740053 524480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw i think i didn't find your answer earlier because i was searching for raw strings, which are not mentioned on that page < 1330740113 867420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while there are a couple other answers telling haskell doesn't have them < 1330740162 753481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1330740238 659849 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like my strings medium rare < 1330740318 53522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it's a bit annoying when you're trying to quote snippets from an esolang which uses \ all over the place < 1330740348 219743 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :interact show < 1330740386 193344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: by quoting i mean "but into a haskell program" < 1330740399 493694 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly. < 1330740403 599876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you could just read from a file, you know < 1330740407 800243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with unsafePerformIO if you must < 1330740426 77296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um part of my annoyance is also about having to make this more than one file < 1330740436 943369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't actually started writing the program yet though
< 1330740439 19725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :P < 1330740640 965044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so i got the idea to click on a random page on the wiki to see if there was something to improve. < 1330740644 372289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hit Esme. < 1330740684 626581 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps use a kind of preprocessor < 1330740690 955505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: better improve it! < 1330740697 219048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest e.g. blanking the page < 1330740710 643568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do the random cleanup thing too < 1330740714 120326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rewarding < 1330740748 645517 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should leave it there. It is one of the joke languages < 1330740758 336578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there is a certain point of view from which the Esme page is already perfect. < 1330740861 617910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits random again instead
< 1330741210 765999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what did you hit :D < 1330741216 699962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :INCAL < 1330741231 356961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/esoteric/incal/ doesn't load < 1330741231 853002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, it doesn't even have an introduction < 1330741245 507418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is probably obsoleted in favour of a gopher link :P < 1330741285 646091 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it earned the Shameful category < 1330741305 620554 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330741315 585641 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1330741379 823682 :azaq23!~derivecto@HSI-KBW-046-005-248-025.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1330741381 462059 :azaq23!~derivecto@HSI-KBW-046-005-248-025.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Changing host < 1330741381 648701 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330741388 435167 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Client Quit < 1330741406 501869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: what, Esme? < 1330741407 808478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it created it. < 1330741410 751305 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330741430 525664 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is quite a feat < 1330741455 935264 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a place where obfuscated code is celebrated < 1330741482 318467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not obfuscated. < 1330741484 53961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just meaningless < 1330741524 348090 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1330741550 563849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this mp3 file is going to end up at like a gigabyte. < 1330741555 997607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or two. < 1330741562 535248 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the feat is to make a full sized article about an esolang which actually has no meaning < 1330741677 903423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats zzo38 for being another person prohibiting the web archive
< 1330741683 139711 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ###b#ott#les#of#b#eer o#n t#he #w#all#, ###lovely ###[[Esme]]ralda ###o#n ###t#h#e #b#ee#r... < 1330741684 532682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ -----### < 1330741696 585996 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65.183.136.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330741741 897797 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to think that i could accidently catch the bus with the person who wrote "###b#ott#les#of#b#eer o#n t#he #w#all#, ###lovely ###[[Esme]]ralda ###o#n ###t#h#e #b#ee#r..." < 1330741753 516176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote to think that i could accidently catch the bus with the person who wrote "###b#ott#les#of#b#eer o#n t#he #w#all#, ###lovely ###[[Esme]]ralda ###o#n ###t#h#e #b#ee#r..." < 1330741756 766371 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :814) to think that i could accidently catch the bus with the person who wrote "###b#ott#les#of#b#eer o#n t#he #w#all#, ###lovely ###[[Esme]]ralda ###o#n ###t#h#e #b#ee#r..." < 1330741764 293556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: technically, everyone. http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/robots.txt < 1330741860 685475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so even google isn't allowed < 1330741886 41844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you must have missed zzo38 suggesting blocking google as the solution to all google-related problems. < 1330741897 886955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least the page is a little prettier now < 1330741920 396862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1330741969 246360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm forgot the introduction < 1330742170 82537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to write without any more information... < 1330742191 262217 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65.183.136.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did David-Wynn: Miller make the news recently? < 1330742301 163048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only the #esoteric news. < 1330742335 484289 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREGOR-FRIENDSHIP-RICHARDS: also makes #esoteric news regularly. < 1330742427 188253 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65.183.136.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1330742499 610223 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65.183.136.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, gopher? < 1330742533 826258 :tikfreenode!znc@ec2-46-137-240-165.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com NICK :Tiktalik < 1330742556 346304 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65.183.136.231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think anyone *ever* used that :| < 1330742688 902207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: You seem to be assuming zzo38 is a member of everyone. < 1330742723 635792 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually a few other people also use gopher < 1330742799 968569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCA members, probably < 1330742807 484445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1330742854 177938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, why did the dollar recover from a few years ago? i distinctly recall it being <0.6 gbp < 1330742899 455976 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-226-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That might have actually been the GBP failing. < 1330742975 317056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: elliott clearly means this in the "Storm in the channel; continent isolated" sense. < 1330742989 833208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: That's impossible. < 1330743001 736281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GBP can never fall. < 1330743006 819507 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-226-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 USD is still ~0.75 EUR... < 1330743027 137743 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it all relative? < 1330743040 634544 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-226-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yup. Gotta love fiat currency. < 1330743077 579757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Anyway, gimme ten pounds. < 1330743083 831783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the least you could do, as an American. < 1330743106 318194 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: as an american, it is my duty to offer you ten pounds worth of work < 1330743125 127090 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so about an hour's worth < 1330743126 278807 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-226-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, USD is still at near parity with the CAD. < 1330743166 697812 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-226-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives elliott 4.5 kilograms
< 1330743208 689566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: OK now 10 GBP. < 1330743247 749915 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-226-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GBPGBPGBPGBPGBPGBPGBPGBPGBPGBP < 1330743261 835407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: 10 dollars of your American currency thank you. < 1330743270 2099 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GGGGGGGGGGBP < 1330743293 171315 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-226-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fine, sure, that's worth approximately nothing. < 1330743306 933631 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-226-145.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives elliott enough cash to buy a single stick of gum
< 1330743344 365961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it'll actually be more like 300 megabytes, not 2 gigabytes. < 1330743370 967672 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65.183.136.231 QUIT : < 1330743673 513443 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, monqy UPDATE < 1330744157 778304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://groups.google.com/group/haskell-cafe/browse_thread/thread/ec9910ce56eb9187 mcquary rolls in his grave < 1330744572 363119 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcquary? < 1330744633 429939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block#E-mail_and_Usenet, see McQuary limit < 1330745075 980742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@peng < 1330745076 170816 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330745148 846458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i noticed that guy too < 1330745168 494857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although top posters annoy me more, for essentially the same reason < 1330745236 658547 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pong < 1330745236 848458 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330745240 195941 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pong < 1330745240 385059 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330745260 120994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pony < 1330745260 310617 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: ping pointy < 1330745263 386379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1330745290 723634 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@piny < 1330745290 913812 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330745302 18513 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@peny < 1330745302 207599 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330745495 521082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pet < 1330745496 385030 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1330745498 544973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1330745508 469224 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@peni < 1330745508 659646 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330745536 234374 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is tempted to try something, but that's kind of weird
< 1330745557 847568 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't work anyway < 1330745576 628753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of monster would type @peniq < 1330745822 323143 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, monqy UPDATE < 1330745883 75036 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1330746738 658992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP AMERICAN < 1330747399 772852 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pigs < 1330747399 962759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330747423 222234 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@fink < 1330747423 411403 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: kind ping < 1330747426 308357 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foo < 1330747434 581820 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pint < 1330747434 771895 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330747443 202752 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pines < 1330747443 393813 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330747453 99776 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@point < 1330747453 289998 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: pointful pointless pointy < 1330747455 861392 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grr < 1330747492 773938 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ink < 1330747492 997148 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: ask id kind ping wn < 1330747499 167636 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shakes fist* < 1330747512 634887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@paint < 1330747512 825398 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: part ping pointy < 1330747515 181927 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointy < 1330747515 369968 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :() < 1330747518 479775 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointy foo < 1330747518 668291 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1330747523 71244 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointy foo bar < 1330747523 259880 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo bar < 1330747526 485332 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1330747529 779615 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointy foo . bar < 1330747529 968746 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ c -> foo (bar c)) < 1330747541 373203 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, duh < 1330747552 632636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dung < 1330747552 822694 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: bug ping run < 1330747556 508181 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointy I want to have your babies < 1330747556 834312 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to have your babies < 1330747565 501001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bing < 1330747565 691164 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330747583 146944 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointy `echo hi < 1330747583 335365 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse error at "hi" (column 7) < 1330747585 597231 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foo < 1330747593 125979 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't know if ` would be meaningful X-D < 1330747622 862655 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo @pointy I am going to slap Friendship < 1330747625 315040 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@pointy I am going to slap Friendship < 1330747627 392652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in that position < 1330747640 768390 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invisible space? < 1330747647 592931 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Botloop avoidance WOMP WOMP < 1330747683 981613 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointy `echo` < 1330747684 169701 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse error at end of input < 1330747698 457319 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why at end of input? Since when did ` mean something in Haskell? < 1330747755 978153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: since forever < 1330747761 553110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`div` < 1330747764 475102 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: div`: not found < 1330747770 981234 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1330747776 514867 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1330747784 582886 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1330747785 263555 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duh < 1330747792 56943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointy + < 1330747792 246761 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+) < 1330747794 318846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1330747807 907033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unpl and pl are a bit < 1330747811 349013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiosyncratic with syntax < 1330747813 964200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointy this `echo` sucks < 1330747814 153850 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(echo this sucks) < 1330747819 77599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo: Botloop avoidance WOMP WOMP < 1330747823 479273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: Which caused me to use fungot instead. < 1330747823 666178 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ( including the procedure) < 1330747830 196488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: Yer losin' customers. < 1330747848 610344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointy the `including` procedure < 1330747848 797096 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(including the procedure) < 1330747856 924732 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: HackEgo is playing the world's smallest violin. < 1330748141 621858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: It's too slow to manage anything bigger, eh? < 1330748171 171253 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo :'( < 1330748174 635210 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:'( < 1330748222 29566 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@71-210-149-100.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330748375 186717 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-149-100.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1330748624 275303 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330748690 694106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: I suppose I shouldn't talk, when botte's bitcoins would have been stolen, did it exist. < 1330748714 118388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its precious, precious bitcoins. < 1330749498 255612 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330749686 512055 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330749703 746132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome itidus22 < 1330749705 174828 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1330749707 716285 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1330749880 141506 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1330750525 409262 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330750564 9153 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1330752201 154837 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1330752430 335332 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 NICK :itidus21 < 1330752723 848275 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: DINOSAUR COMICS ARE THE DEVIL < 1330753020 924985 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330753757 643130 :madbrain!boulam@24.157.253.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330754724 894553 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@71-210-149-100.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330754816 481658 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-149-100.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330754829 440508 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"All online casinos use an RNG, but not all RNGs are the same. Of course, for security reasons, we can’t tell you exactly how ours works; but we can give you an idea: " < 1330754984 571874 :madbrain!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eheh < 1330755075 87710 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.uwinpoker.com/en.integrity.shuffler < 1330755084 101010 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They apparently reshuffle the deck after each draw < 1330755113 102475 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like a setup for something that sounds more secure but for subtle reasons isn't so random. I have no idea though. < 1330755137 118588 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO it's not "we've got a big chunk of uranium and a lot of geger counter pointed at it"? < 1330755152 600949 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude, sounds like they're simulating it. < 1330755166 47372 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, simulating a different quantum thing < 1330755181 399933 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes little to no sense, because the simulation itself needs random numbers from somewhere. < 1330755190 976714 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at it, guess thet do have that. < 1330755219 3449 :madbrain!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The easy way is to sample sound card noise < 1330755253 84385 :madbrain!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then randomify it further < 1330755270 894714 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the simulation would even be other than calling for a random bit when the photon hits hte half-mirror. < 1330755282 819180 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hole cards are only visible to the players that hold them. Even our floor manager cannot see what you are holding until the game is finished." < 1330755293 299034 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like a recipe for trusting the client. < 1330755311 942338 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they're just talking interface-wise. < 1330755324 808621 :madbrain!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :simpler guess: the page is all bullshit < 1330755351 804256 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just talking to their live support too, but closed out. Maybe tomorrow I'll bring this up to them, see what they say. < 1330755384 109008 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The “black box” shuffler is itself set within a totally secure system. < 1330755384 295960 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing which can enter our shuffler is a secure, coded request for a freshly shuffled deck of cards. < 1330755384 296182 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing which can come out of our shuffler is a shuffled deck of cards." < 1330755392 242849 :madbrain!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess they use some hardware source of randomness coupled with a statistically reliable programmatic RNG < 1330755393 488866 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random numbers are generated by a giant brain hooked up to the various computers via large cables sunk deep into it's frontal lobes. < 1330755563 979894 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just to be sure, the Shuffler monitors the output of the RNG for randomness. < 1330755564 168377 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1330755577 858720 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when, just randomly, the output looks non-random? < 1330755594 781402 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fails the statistical tests, or whatever. < 1330755624 347551 :madbrain!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1330755639 614497 :madbrain!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your test is good, the chaces of that are ridiculously low < 1330755666 974802 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pull out another number and xor them? < 1330755874 27123 :madbrain!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's gotta have at least one source of real entropy < 1330755889 2536 :madbrain!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though timing probably works < 1330755893 732310 :madbrain!boulam@24.157.253.190 NICK :madbr < 1330755973 161311 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck predicting the cpu cycle counter's last bit on a server for instance < 1330756007 959448 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1330756016 507371 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1330756111 238736 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Build two machine learning algorithms, there one tries to predict the output of the other, which itself attempts to avoid being predicted. < 1330756150 893633 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just have them play rock paper scissors < 1330756190 308724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: reminds me of that self-avoiding sequence i implemented < 1330756200 665283 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would but 3 isn't a power of 2. < 1330756223 559008 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ellitt: Neat, what did you implement it in/for? < 1330756287 576055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was python for no real reason, and for: because proposed it in-channel :P < 1330756300 331615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically at each step it constructed a markov chain of increasing order from its existing output < 1330756311 121279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then picked the /least/ likely bit to follow the $order bits it just outputted < 1330756353 485186 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do it with burrows wheeler transform too I guess :D < 1330756394 511001 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really familiar with the details of that kind of stuff. < 1330756403 940517 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like what order means exactly. < 1330756414 266068 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'll need ot go to bed before learning up on it. < 1330756425 340290 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1330756428 525857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :order just means how many previous symbols you use < 1330756443 655113 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=Ah, ok. < 1330756444 541189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a markov chain is just a map of $order previous symbols to every next symbol seen and its probability (relative to every sequence it's seen) < 1330756447 33292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :night :) < 1330756473 149962 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought order had to do with the probabiltiy function somehow. < 1330756480 883131 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1330756486 783652 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MSleep < 1330756873 673494 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-159-88.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1330757101 437890 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-149-69.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330758668 843517 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330758696 104771 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1330758939 665109 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330758939 665364 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330759008 873756 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :macroexpand does not in fact expand all macros < 1330759011 744473 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is not pleased.
< 1330759025 557053 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1330759259 111094 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :macroexpanddammit < 1330759569 35814 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330759598 872140 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@stu-242-155-171-184.champlain.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1330759628 228988 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did once think of "card dealing protocol", where the server does not need to know what game you are playing; however, all clients must know and will receive some information from the server whenever a card is dealt, and possibly private. Depending on the game, you might require all clients to check with the server after the game is finish, to know that you are not cheating. < 1330759996 215168 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :swank-backend:macroexpand-all works I guess < 1330760009 634469 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel uneasy with the notion of using SWANK as a library < 1330760359 262763 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b614d.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330760820 328792 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dict swank < 1330760820 552957 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supported dictionary-lookup commands: < 1330760820 740024 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : all-dicts devils easton elements foldoc gazetteer hitchcock jargon lojban vera web1913 wn world02 < 1330760820 740223 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use "dict-help [cmd...]" for more. < 1330760825 371156 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn swank < 1330760826 84883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "swank" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1330760826 272627 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :swank < 1330760826 459772 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : adj 1: imposingly fashionable and elegant; "a swank apartment" < 1330760826 459956 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [syn: {swank}, {swanky}] < 1330760826 646601 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: elegance by virtue of being fashionable [syn: {chic}, < 1330760828 520957 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[5 @more lines] < 1330760842 782391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1330760842 970851 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : {chicness}, {chichi}, {modishness}, {smartness}, < 1330760843 159023 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : {stylishness}, {swank}, {last word}] < 1330760843 345402 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: display proudly; act ostentatiously or pretentiously; "he < 1330760843 345583 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : showed off his new sports car" [syn: {flaunt}, {flash}, < 1330760843 345691 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : {show off}, {ostentate}, {swank}] < 1330760848 363655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 191 < 1330760848 550946 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :� < 1330760866 882117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 159 < 1330760867 68786 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :� < 1330760869 261317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1330760873 226531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 2348234 < 1330760873 413353 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :� < 1330760887 530207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 256 - 97 < 1330760888 295650 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 159 < 1330760895 215597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1330760915 546651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something is wrong with my . translation < 1330760925 852304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i wouldn't rely on fungot for things that aren't pure ascii < 1330760926 39025 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the new fnord < 1330760951 1529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1330760954 901016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote elliott: the new fnord < 1330760955 87704 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what is the point? nothing changed. < 1330760957 88950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well irssi fallbacks to latin-1 or so < 1330760963 498471 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :815) elliott: the new fnord < 1330760967 872810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 815 < 1330760972 210806 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* elliott: the new fnord < 1330760973 277887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote elliott: the new fnord elliott: what is the point? nothing changed. < 1330760973 715962 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: we're all like that. does that fit into the day i decide to use ' fdisk /dev/ hda < 1330760976 797148 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :815) elliott: the new fnord elliott: what is the point? nothing changed. < 1330760985 298794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes but i still wouldn't trust it. < 1330761006 77602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right the neighbors let out the dog, mental work immediately becomes impossible. < 1330761022 752054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA) < 1330761052 981869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, i was just trying to print an 'a' < 1330761074 718402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some other character appeared instead. also the loop quit unexpectedly. < 1330761109 544549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :▒ < 1330761113 499928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1330761117 562964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^asc ▒ < 1330761117 749736 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :226. < 1330761129 447431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 226 < 1330761129 634511 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :� < 1330761151 482743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "▒" < 1330761152 311683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\9618" < 1330761156 642229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1330761166 964310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wtf?) < 1330761221 392058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh less shows it as < 1330761263 627868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you considered investing in earmuffs < 1330761319 958514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. a bit. < 1330761441 857270 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^asc 1 < 1330761442 81045 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :49. < 1330761443 201601 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^asc 14 < 1330761443 388424 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :49. < 1330761452 840692 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ か < 1330761459 174345 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^asc か < 1330761459 361046 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :227. < 1330761476 67000 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330761480 122515 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (ord $ 'か') % 256 < 1330761480 924521 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12363 % 256 < 1330761483 706027 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1330761486 81481 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (ord $ 'か') `mod` 256 < 1330761486 857284 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 75 < 1330761491 217067 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1330761492 195814 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1330761497 374775 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things are being sent in UTF-8 < 1330761957 396316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 223 + 97 < 1330761958 158371 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 320 < 1330761969 502431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 223 + 32 < 1330761970 450648 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 255 < 1330761990 599094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fixed one bug... < 1330762217 102047 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330762256 342761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh whoops i forgot that \ adds two 0's again < 1330762362 186337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay it printed the 'a' < 1330762374 901955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why did it still quit the loop < 1330762440 560910 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make a language called Lime Slices < 1330762538 258501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the term is trilime tyvm < 1330762681 891321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay ,[.] seems to be working < 1330762709 291531 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, no one's named their language Sublime < 1330762741 570022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D < 1330762779 192570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to add an extra , (it's not trivial because the first one cheats by having an already zeroed cell) < 1330763214 176463 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330763344 206337 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330763373 284824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[.,] is working < 1330763482 228539 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330763574 734020 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1330763579 712197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1330763582 602438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about +[>+]? < 1330763603 188960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/qdeql/cat < 1330763612 99657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's pretty < 1330763651 473043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i was thinking of doing one of the 3-cell bf constants < 1330763694 210888 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330763700 227958 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330763714 475570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1330763855 199691 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330764004 938594 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330764015 483957 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1330764030 917935 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330764132 675844 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Fueue is Turing-complete < 1330764297 506701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1330764437 32779 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it has the capability for loops and decision-making, and has unbounded memory. < 1330764703 85144 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330764857 659772 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1330765076 985317 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330765169 349038 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330765208 176128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330765468 217598 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have been kinda-sorta asleep. < 1330765583 939579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, and you were TOO LATE. < 1330765599 629087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I ended up dumping the stream on the Linode with mplayer, and playing the stream itself with VLC. < 1330765611 79652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL BECAUSE OF YOU. < 1330765666 403496 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NO. < 1330765678 934271 :myndzi\!~myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330765810 354317 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ...Ng and Ta aren't here, monqy UPDAte < 1330765857 804961 :myndzi!~myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1330766320 719031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://supervillainornewt.com/ < 1330766323 127340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this... is impossible < 1330766342 369966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my score is 0% < 1330766510 554034 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1330766759 842688 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b614d.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [x | a <- [2,3,5,7,11,13,17], b <- [1,3,4,6,7], x <- [a^b] ] < 1330766760 617784 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,8,16,64,128,3,27,81,729,2187,5,125,625,15625,78125,7,343,2401,117649,823... < 1330766794 159230 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b614d.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i make x the intersecting set of a and b? < 1330766872 825725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... not really clear what you want < 1330766881 360049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: last insane bug: writing "3-cell brainfuck" in a comment on top of the file < 1330766887 739681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D < 1330766893 558363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> intersect [2,3,5] [1,3,5] < 1330766894 337760 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [3,5] < 1330766899 672689 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b614d.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea...thx < 1330766905 389360 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b614d.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats it < 1330766913 863240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: note that [x | ..., x <- [y]] === [y | ...] < 1330766926 858765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in your expression you can skip the binding of "x" entirely < 1330766937 382982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or alternatively replace the binding with "let x = a^b") < 1330766957 227423 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b614d.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmhm..k got it < 1330767482 789210 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-149-69.as43234.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330767528 129970 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-125-220.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330768004 776879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^chr 75 < 1330768004 963649 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :K < 1330768091 677228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1330768334 725743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1330768337 424493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it working? < 1330768339 885708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1330768351 865833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/qdeql/75 < 1330768373 626132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all the parts have been tested < 1330768376 984919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty < 1330768384 934269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it it's not yet automated? < 1330768391 508679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1330768410 499462 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330768443 483798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1330768443 901861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* After the 1.19wmf1 deployment several people have complained about various aspects of the new diff styling < 1330768444 88401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- The contrast being too low in the highlighted part (darker background behind bolded text) < 1330768444 88618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- The colors not being obvious perhaps (orange/blue) < 1330768444 88721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Color blind users not seeing the difference very well between the light tones of the orange and blue < 1330768445 386030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Trevor mentioned something about W3C Accessibility guidelines < 1330768447 399543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To play it safe for now I think we should revert these changes to the status quo, and take the next few days (or weeks) to carefully check the concerns, perhaps look at other diff tools out there for inspiration (GitHub, Gerrit, LocalWiki, ..). < 1330768451 425592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1330768453 719259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY MUST YOU RUIN MY SHINY < 1330768481 996435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A new patch is coming which will provide the same functionality as these changes did, but without breaking accessibility." yay < 1330768520 312984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: heh the new MW diffs are going to look like http://bug-attachment.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=10148 < 1330768581 638033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover < 1330768591 334671 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helo < 1330768591 610255 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1330768602 506219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dolor sit amet < 1330768694 842857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh i lie, the borders will only be on the side < 1330768702 892287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope this is a sufficiently disconcerting change < 1330768715 654518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKKEJ < 1330768720 336420 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is there a loggrep in one of these bots? < 1330768736 314434 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for that link you posted a while back to the BBC radiophonic workshop sound sampley thingy < 1330768747 202569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog radiophonic < 1330768749 791684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: `log < 1330768755 632121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though pastlog is more useful (ignores today) < 1330768768 588186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't sure which link you're referring to
< 1330768780 487724 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it was a flash application on the bbc site I think < 1330768784 64583 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1330768790 618503 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog bbc < 1330768800 904361 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait what have i done < 1330768803 940558 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog bbc.co.uk < 1330768805 235526 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-11-05.txt:02:46:55: The BBC is a pretty cool guy < 1330768813 6106 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-08-21.txt:17:05:32: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11049316 < 1330768814 837724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs http://bbc\.co\.uk\b < 1330768822 944215 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.15060 < 1330768832 845226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(takes a few seconds to populate) < 1330768843 911668 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1330768852 404330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm < 1330768859 793840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs http://bbc\.co\.uk < 1330768867 673384 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.6261 < 1330768871 831392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1330768872 518599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :www. < 1330768875 318370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs http://(www\.)?bbc\.co\.uk < 1330768883 9034 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.18773 < 1330768893 533767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: there < 1330768910 433619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see news-ham is adequately represented < 1330768918 452546 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it < 1330768926 347486 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :radiophon-a-tron < 1330768971 91356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how it was ph and not me < 1330769053 592128 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I thought it was you < 1330769493 973094 :madbr!boulam@24.157.253.190 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1330769994 842174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the radiophon-a-tron. < 1330770078 286770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I want news-ham back :( < 1330770136 917943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ded < 1330770163 567800 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip news-ham, 2011-2011.1 < 1330770223 592326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the news: elliott still ham-fisted < 1330770681 901567 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1330770891 236563 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330771275 975710 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1330771332 711610 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330771358 193215 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330771457 323011 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1330771638 78120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I had somehow gotten the notion that pastlog's randomization was weighted to bias older entries, but apparently it indeed is just "ignore last day". < 1330771730 885786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't do fancy things like that here < 1330771767 71104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nope < 1330771791 379843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have completed 5/10 questions. Your score is 100%." I doubt I can keep this up, though. < 1330771875 398453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :8/10 correct in the end. < 1330772044 227886 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, 8/10 on what? < 1330772086 586929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's supervillainornewt.com link. < 1330772131 154155 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330772151 181638 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330772227 848248 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvW2xeSn4As < 1330772229 444563 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fearsome Flying Jacob - Regular Ordinary Swedish Meal Time < 1330772264 263087 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-71-8.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330772268 568866 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wow... < 1330772424 791229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How do you do on that thing? < 1330772427 997727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*well do < 1330772451 210751 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What thing. < 1330772470 486979 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, supervillainornewt.com? < 1330772563 859633 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1330772567 756979 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it would be so easy < 1330772701 757302 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I got 5/10 at least. I'm very surprised some of those ideas weren't from super villains. Or maybe they were: Arguably that man is nuts... < 1330773665 307361 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1330773997 480462 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@stu-242-155-171-184.champlain.edu QUIT : < 1330776540 948102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"word" -words < 1330781660 39519 :oklodol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :word. < 1330781903 139851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1330781911 138400 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ens < 1330781915 975671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ens. < 1330781926 923926 :oklodol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ens. < 1330782043 616392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ens < 1330782072 883247 :oklodol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ens to that, bro < 1330782223 697251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ruined it < 1330782272 14307 :oklodol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i retract my ens because apparently you are a fuckface. < 1330782839 487795 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b614d.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1330783059 322691 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f504.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330783818 901697 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1330784585 499525 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-178.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330784603 70314 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-178.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1330784630 523129 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330785079 557980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :Four loko biodiesel eu raw denim butcher hoodie. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki/ has moved servers! < 1330785097 582561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :Four loko biodiesel eu raw denim butcher hoodie. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ has moved servers! < 1330786335 513971 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-178.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330786355 571780 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-178.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330786657 141045 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-178.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330786767 864105 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-178.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330786865 631997 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-178.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330786971 426585 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-178.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330787553 20563 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-160-178.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1330787684 744822 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-235-115.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330787733 677844 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-125-220.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1330787960 313972 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-235-115.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1330788412 280361 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-120-252.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330790283 220326 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C147.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330790427 751941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330790469 869209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, to recall a conversation from ages ago, I figured out how to make highlight work together with less and lesspipe < 1330790498 437843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just write 'highlight -A "$1" 2>/dev/null' in ~/.lessfilter, and chmod it executable < 1330790599 244316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesspipe calls ~/.lessfilter, and if it errors out, lesspipe handles the error itself (by falling back to what it would have done anyway), so you don't have to handle lesspipe failing < 1330795942 664731 :oklodol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have to program this fuckload of crap today and i'm like hey the day is young < 1330795951 276190 :oklodol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i realized i have to get on the bus at 0300 < 1330795973 825754 :oklodol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have 8 hours to program everything in the universe and get ready (that is, grab my laptop) < 1330796050 245306 :oklodol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my passport will expire in like a month, do you know if they care about that at the airport, i just heard they do in some third-world countries < 1330796088 836335 :oklodol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm coming through london which i guess is pretty much a bonsai somalia < 1330796104 317666 :oklodol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, #esoteric is my google) < 1330796178 131036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR that mostly for the EU region it's enough that it doesn't expire during the trip, but I could well be worng. < 1330796244 171297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like: doesn't expire during: the TRIP. < 1330796258 886012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expired during the trip, once. < 1330796819 932357 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1330796863 995141 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1330797292 508739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330797432 206617 :oklodol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1330797787 288996 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330799578 522590 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1330800130 458698 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C147.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330800173 362887 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330800189 116819 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1330800261 755964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hel < 1330800262 962261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1330800308 256508 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hllo < 1330800481 699650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heo < 1330800495 688751 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have a complex polygonal model (say, a room in a 3D game), is there any algorithm to figure out if there are any holes in said room. I presume you could do it by defining a point that you know is outside and one that you know is inside and checking if you can connect them or not, but is there any efficient algorithms for that? < 1330801073 826120 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checking that every edge connects to another edge wouldn't work: You can have a surface that is inside the room but not connected on one corner. (For example, the leaves of a plant inside the room would have this property) < 1330801157 674860 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the algorithm you suggested won't work if there's a closed box in the room < 1330801180 746357 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, the one with outside and inside point? < 1330801181 868252 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1330801191 532643 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1330801211 131782 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, why not? < 1330801213 391052 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, you'd have to have one amazingly broken pathfinding algo for that to be true ... < 1330801230 586722 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the inside point is inside the box, there'll be no path at all, even if there is a hole in the room < 1330801244 854810 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The box is the room of that inner point. < 1330801249 198741 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, the inside and outside points would have to be manually placed to be sane though < 1330801260 307749 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By what algorithm? < 1330801275 1247 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd assume you want this to be as automated as possible < 1330801281 210153 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The inner point, if this is in a game, would presumably be where the character is. < 1330801285 793981 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The outer point may be more difficult. < 1330801286 774160 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not aiming to solve the problem of detecting which one is outside and which one is inside. Just if given an inside an an outside, is there a path between them or not < 1330801365 161201 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship, I believe for my purpose I could just do something like "inside is defined as the room spawn marker and outside we set to something like 9999,9999,9999" < 1330801383 678845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: I hate you so much. < 1330801384 924688 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that point is unlikely to be inside, and if it was it would just be a false positive < 1330801408 574602 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a potentially false negative, if it's in a box < 1330801415 928302 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like boxes < 1330801427 666497 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ??? < 1330801433 271777 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect Vorpal may not < 1330801439 125255 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you want to know if there are holes in the room? < 1330801468 729252 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, right. < 1330801506 440332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: JavaScript. < 1330801508 271005 :myndzi\!~myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net NICK :myndzi < 1330801510 584121 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, let's assume for convinience, well chosen points < 1330801511 870103 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, to be able to automatically find areas that need fixing. < 1330801542 227170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: I'm spending my time writing JavaScript. I'm spending my time *optimising* JavaScript. < 1330801547 256542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not the life I was meant to lead and it's all your fault. < 1330801587 941773 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: create a Haskell to JavaScript compiler. < 1330801602 568228 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think such a thing Haskell->JavaScript exists. < 1330801603 26339 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 8-D < 1330801611 208229 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, wasn't there some early FPS that did this before writing out levels created in the editor? Quake or some such... Might be worth looking at that. < 1330801614 755938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That would not make it go fast. < 1330801632 509564 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: be amazing at writing Haskell to JavaScript compilers < 1330801650 343039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: The best part about JavaScript and O(n) algorithms is, n has to be under 500 or so, or you're fucked. < 1330801651 599658 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But depending on what you are doing, you might not need JavaScripts at all and can use native codes < 1330801658 148675 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghcjs exists. < 1330801669 297363 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Naw, you just roll your own CPS ^^ < 1330801671 497737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: So, you know... it's completely obliterated and obsoleted the field of complexity analysis. < 1330801682 525280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who cares any more? It just has to be under O(500). < 1330801693 137262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: CPS? I'm not running out of stack, it's just slow as shit. < 1330801703 585545 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You use CPS so that you can yield to the browser. < 1330801707 25531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1330801715 739983 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, so it did. Hm < 1330801719 428743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: But the problem is that my tight loop isn't going fast enough to display smoothly. < 1330801729 829674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That will just give the browser more time to not display the next frame. < 1330801733 272521 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :the source was released for quake right? < 1330801780 259973 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is going to be slow like that, don't put it on a webpage. Write a C or Haskell code which can be downloaded and compiled and operated locally. < 1330801781 120654 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe so, Vorpal < 1330801809 759523 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Ahhh. Then you're fucked. < 1330801818 332472 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect a native code to run faster. < 1330801829 412185 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, this problem is quite similar, not exactly the same, and I'm not sure if it depends on how the level is built up or not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_engine#Reducing_3D_complexity_to_increase_speed < 1330801839 472832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: V8 *should* be ripping this to shreds, I think the problem is that I'm doing canvas operations inside my loop. < 1330801848 612414 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, any non-wikipedia links? < 1330801854 830736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: Maybe I'll have a tight loop doing all the maths and another loop doing the canvas shit, so that the first one can be optimised out. < 1330801855 436442 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lenten challenge < 1330801875 694636 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, specifically it seems it used convex 3D models to make up the environment, mine might not be convex. < 1330801878 423256 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, uh? < 1330801882 38104 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1330801893 214737 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was challenged by a friend. < 1330801902 62357 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do what? < 1330801913 682478 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To not go on Wikipedia until Easter < 1330801930 433315 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't know any. Someone should add "[citation needed]" there < 1330801938 461385 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it doesn't cite anything on that paragraph < 1330801945 233502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What do you think of this new esolang? http://esolangs.org/wiki/Abacompute < 1330801964 556419 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-240-182.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read that as ABBA compute < 1330801970 353952 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a veil to make me lose my challenge < 1330801978 263016 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-240-182.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are the dancing queen! < 1330801984 153900 :Slereah!~jackal@ANantes-259-1-240-182.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Young and sweet, only 17! < 1330801986 215578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It's on the wiki, man. < 1330801990 722454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the wiki. < 1330801997 262898 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially as searching the wiki for that name yields no results < 1330802001 310469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cache. < 1330802018 46514 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not cache/ < 1330802063 480884 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no? < 1330802074 275467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, besides he said wikipedia not any wiki in general < 1330802113 836907 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1330802118 987663 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an empty page < 1330802129 891777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fuck, not that problem again < 1330802138 468561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed < 1330802140 326209 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, for me it says the page doesn't exist < 1330802156 807177 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay now it redirects, what? < 1330802159 120220 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :to wikipedia < 1330802168 228653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfft, you're imagining things. < 1330802169 937818 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1330802178 56653 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't aware #REDIRECT or whatever it is called worked to another wiki < 1330802188 992239 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl food < 1330802198 601120 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto < 1330802205 538723 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-90-20.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330802302 760780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you fail lent if you, e.g. decided to give up chocolate but someone decides to force-feed you chocolate. < 1330802306 518002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess: no. < 1330802315 372342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus foiling my devious plan :'( < 1330802571 971606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: Aha, splitting the two loops worked perfectly. < 1330802579 955557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, to a degree, anyway. < 1330802649 995371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wasn't aware #REDIRECT or whatever it is called worked to another wiki < 1330802662 615357 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Perfectly to a degree" < 1330802670 243467 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He set the server up to redirect, obviously. < 1330802832 53749 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, right < 1330802853 981084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been 0 days since etc. < 1330803060 561370 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-149-100.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330803281 373236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: "This is one thing that I really like about JavaScript: You can write a three line function for a trivial operation and still need 800 words to explain its true nature." < 1330803292 134281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: So, I'm beginning to suspect that John Resig is just really high, all the time. < 1330803338 490481 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1330803430 673046 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1330803613 649479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: So, why is the canvas API so terrible? < 1330803683 366349 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330803848 353799 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple. < 1330803866 980910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendship: Like everyone else didn't bolt on crap too. < 1330803973 627684 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only Apple nailed the apple-flavored jelly to the JS/DOM tree. < 1330803983 787949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it even possible to get the rendered contents of a canvas as a bitmap object and blit it into another one? < 1330803986 69888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to cache this shit. < 1330803998 7095 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is. < 1330804086 640027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. Is there a better way to find out how than blindly gawking at Mozilla's impossible wiki docs? < 1330804328 885498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1330804750 235989 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops! How are you supposed to play Hero Hearts if the hearts are upsidedown? < 1330804941 103694 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1330804959 892756 :zbrown!~zbrown@unaffiliated/zbrown QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1330805006 245803 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-149-100.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330805380 923984 :zbrown!~zbrown@rufius.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1330805741 978721 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330806455 800617 :myndzi!~myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i seem to recall it wasn't too bad, but i never implemented it haha < 1330806671 283989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: wat < 1330806861 914462 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Friendship: "This is one thing that I really like about JavaScript: You can write a three line function for a trivial operation and still need 800 words to explain its true nature." <-- that is trivial in any language that doesn't require line breaks for parsing... < 1330807046 178880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hurr what is line < 1330807189 307850 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1330807208 941177 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1330807457 976168 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330807526 930651 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330807588 117098 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330807612 899400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1330807677 677686 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such a thing as "failing Lent"? < 1330807756 481384 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1330807768 981307 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what is Lent? < 1330807798 623762 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The period of time between Ash Wednesday and Easter Sunday. < 1330807801 661487 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apart from past tense of "lend" with a capital letter at the beginning of the word) < 1330807822 116396 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lent is a bad habit that people find very difficult to give up. < 1330807833 772584 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ash Wednesday? < 1330807835 510452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Lent is a bad habit that people find very difficult to give up. < 1330807841 709869 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :816) Lent is a bad habit that people find very difficult to give up. < 1330807931 13657 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, "Lent" is the same as "fasta" in Swedish. < 1330807943 176387 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that anything like pasta < 1330807948 223222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently this is a thing people actually do in PHP: extract(array_map("mysql_real_escape_string", get_defined_vars())); < 1330807950 480439 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, no it is like fasting. < 1330807958 364433 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be silly. Pasta isn't Swedish. < 1330807966 455165 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330807969 304573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 points to the first person to explain what it does < 1330807986 583496 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is that +10 or -10? < 1330807987 630147 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does php < 1330808009 477507 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What it does or what it's meant to do? < 1330808019 994624 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if you tell me what "get_defined_vars()" does I can tell you what the whole does < 1330808023 695076 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is also meant to do php < 1330808033 227950 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hope it isn't as stupid as it seems, knowing php devs it probably is < 1330808052 903269 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something to do with putting slashes in all variable contents? < 1330808068 82958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It gets the defined vars. < 1330808074 991792 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1330808086 311609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hint: extract is the inverse. < 1330808093 561610 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1330808094 496048 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1330808108 736681 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so it changes every variable in the program to be mysql-escaped? < 1330808113 696247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the local scope, I think. < 1330808121 104654 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :still pretty horrible < 1330808125 157658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly_less_magic_quotes < 1330808144 402436 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why anyone would not simply send the data as bound parameters. < 1330808158 408561 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, because PHP doesn't come with that? < 1330808169 160234 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, "select * from foo where name = ?" or whatever and then bind that < 1330808175 15563 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the PHP installation we used in class did, so < 1330808183 776507 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although the teacher certainly never showed us) < 1330808192 472442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: PHP couldn't do that back ages ago. < 1330808198 292065 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, pretty sure there is some database API of php that does that < 1330808199 731896 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah < 1330808204 741442 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does MySQL and/or PHP support these kind of SQL parameters binding? < 1330808268 566435 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember using php and psql bindings, I just currently can't think of a reason I would /have/ that memory. Sure I have been forced to use php a few times (mostly when trying to fix something in a bug tracker or wiki software) but usually you had to use mysql as well then < 1330808280 592110 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why do I remember using psql and php? Weird. < 1330808356 868534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been doing some PHP lately. It's... uh... < 1330808371 302641 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a bit like perl, but far worse. < 1330808409 739544 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And as you probably know by now, I'm not exactly a fan of perl.) < 1330808421 258231 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :though actually, it is bad for different reasons than perl < 1330808468 803292 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in a few ways, PHP is like Perl but worse. < 1330808495 52065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, Perl is a really great, rich language, in the relative scale. PHP is a 64 kbps MP3 rip of Perl from 2001. < 1330808507 271642 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1330808533 169093 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't argue with "rich language" certainly < 1330808591 339443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP is like if Perl was a complex three-dimensional object and somebody took a photograph of it, so all the depth perception was ruined, then they asked an almost-blind person to recreate the original object with their feet based on that photograph. < 1330808595 32301 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written my own SQL templating program; currently it only works with SQLite but you can modify it to work with other SQL system if you want to. I have written a separate program to make it work with CGI, since the SQL templating program itself cannot use CGI. Both programs are written in C. < 1330808601 178543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of mud. < 1330808614 299100 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: O, yes, OK. < 1330808635 703423 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well said. :-D < 1330808673 841167 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, agreed < 1330808682 706870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they stole the OOP sculpture from the Java building and just plonked it on top. < 1330808690 847465 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl has $s in front of stuff and php does too. they're basically the same language. < 1330808699 473811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With superglue. < 1330808708 988985 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I ever used the OOP features thankfully < 1330808719 588992 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: In that case you understand neither Perl nor PHP...... < 1330808739 241079 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, I always found the $ in front of a lot of stuff to be rather ugly < 1330808775 321437 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I have used the object oriented features in PHP as a substitute for partially applied functions < 1330808786 331920 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm scared < 1330808798 530834 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a = 42 in show $a < 1330808799 555281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "42" < 1330808813 499397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ($a) = 42 in show ($a) < 1330808814 288065 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : Parse error in pattern < 1330808826 260361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let _$a = 42 in show ($a) < 1330808826 447769 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, nice < 1330808827 214591 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Overlapping instances for GHC.Show.Show (t -> t1) < 1330808827 401319 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of ... < 1330808841 689617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, duh. < 1330808850 195980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let _$a = 42 in show $a < 1330808851 6590 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 42 < 1330808853 955143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLOSE ENOUGH. < 1330808867 259139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f$a = f 42 in show $a < 1330808867 995597 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "42" < 1330808970 183621 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you believe me? < 1330809689 257065 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330810347 15623 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330810479 158397 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: I mentioned this place in another channel. Be ware. < 1330810489 267355 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1330810512 820687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1330810513 908053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you keep < 1330810514 657151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing < 1330810515 190265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1330810570 933917 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone was talking about how they thought Freenode was "enabling" Christians by allowing channels like #jesus to stay with one # < 1330810594 959216 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1330810599 528724 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sgeo: how refreshing to see you talk about something other than whatever the heck homestuck is" < 1330810614 970559 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1330810616 190067 :Friendship!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub for exoteric voodoo programming and astral software projection. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ has moved servers! < 1330810621 205314 :Friendship!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub for exoteric voodoo programming and astral software projection. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ has moved servers! < 1330810624 249974 :Friendship!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub for exoteric voodoo programming and astral software projection. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ has moved servers! < 1330810637 233343 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1330810647 879790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck are you doing < 1330810654 741235 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to change the topic once. < 1330810659 899109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote "Sgeo: how refreshing to see you talk about something other than whatever the heck homestuck is" < 1330810663 431450 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :817) "Sgeo: how refreshing to see you talk about something other than whatever the heck homestuck is" < 1330810664 787446 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently my client went "Once? I think you mean thrice." < 1330810674 446061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :Go away | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ has moved servers! Fuck you! < 1330810678 563759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this will suffice < 1330810684 240698 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ THRICE < 1330810702 524463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should put the gosc stuff in the topic < 1330810718 877287 :Friendship!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Gosc away | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/ has moved servers! Fuck you! < 1330810735 958656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw, they're counting views of the license page as downloads of the software, because they don't host it themselves and are using google analytics in an attempt to count downloads indirectly < 1330810762 885746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, I viewed the license page at least twice for my one download (which was not under the license) < 1330810785 710992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you'll probably cancel out me < 1330810789 965147 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What page? < 1330810794 922199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, I've never downloaded the software from there because I haven't needed to < 1330810802 942684 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What software? < 1330810806 205974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: https://sites.google.com/site/thegeometryofsynthesis/ < 1330810811 808805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admire the beatifully well-designed website < 1330810880 573293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I paid taxes so I could be indignant about my taxes funding a work licensed in a way that severely restricts my use of it. < 1330810913 756101 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What... is it, exactly? < 1330810919 235775 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sort of language? < 1330810924 874649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's a compiler from Verity to VHDL < 1330810946 158112 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. I know vaguely what VHDL is, but not Verity < 1330810955 992462 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1330810967 855784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, because we invented Verity for the purpose < 1330810977 532920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a call-by-name higher-order statically-typed language < 1330810987 609068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is really an Algol variant, but in disguise < 1330811010 555337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With lambdas.) < 1330811025 324341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Search for "gosc.tgz" to download it without agreeing to the license. < 1330811027 734410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, with lambdas < 1330811031 176949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can look at the example programs. < 1330811042 521162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but the example programs are very permissively licensed < 1330811079 189956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Did the University grant you permission to license them in that way? If so, why not the rest of the package? < 1330811082 618328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's the principle of the thing. < 1330811094 2380 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-120-252.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1330811105 713492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[In the event of a dispute arising from or relating to this Agreement the Parties will attempt to settle it by mediation in accordance with the Centre for Effective Dispute Resolution (“CEDR”) Model Mediation Procedure. Unless otherwise agreed between the Parties, the mediator will be nominated by CEDR. To initiate the mediation a Party must give notice in writing (“ADR notice”) to the other Party to the dispute requesting mediation. < 1330811105 899977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A copy of the request should be sent to CEDR. The mediation will not start later than 30 days after the date of the ADR notice.]] < 1330811120 558074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How much will it personally inconvenience you if I try and annoy them with this? < 1330811132 642888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's licensed so as to retain the ability to commercialise < 1330811144 565879 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-120-252.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330811243 972309 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this about taxes. < 1330811304 542976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Someone gotta pay them so I can use them as a platform for indignancy wrt ais523's compiler's licensing. < 1330811331 489340 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's ais523's compiler's licensing? < 1330811339 134863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's a crazy EULA < 1330811351 311987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told the lawyers about the obvious contradictions and I fixed them < 1330811358 452082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*they fixed them < 1330811360 632130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the typos < 1330811364 633711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a licence agreement < 1330811367 165409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How crazy... < 1330811373 459101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It doesn't just restrict your ability to redistribute derivatives. < 1330811377 434035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It restricts your ability to *make* them. < 1330811385 455542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, privately. < 1330811405 153554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have to be for "academic teaching" or "non-commercial research" purposes. < 1330811413 179455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (ii) You many make derivative works for the purposes of non-commercial research. < 1330811419 93068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"many" < 1330811432 229313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I guess you noticed that < 1330811435 7346 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... < 1330811447 224634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think "LICENCE.rtf" is the best one < 1330811458 704849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I bet the easiest way to get this under a reasonable license would be to sabotage all attempts at commercialisation < 1330811459 458293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked if I should rename the file, but meh < 1330811459 646154 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LICENCE.wtf < 1330811463 613058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wants to help me spread FUD about hardware compilers? < 1330811467 674166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /did/ turn the executable bit off, though < 1330811497 149829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what you do is you sell it to Xilinx and Altera for a fortune < 1330811501 715427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/then/ you opensource it :) < 1330811515 911151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: probably wouldn't work in practice) < 1330811524 45610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll write my own Verity implementation < 1330811527 397201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats javascript < 1330811540 130385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but--first--sleep: < 1330811541 444953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1330811544 784566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free; I recommend that you GPLv3 it < 1330811556 168987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(v3 is very important in this context, for reasons that I hope are obvious) < 1330811585 696280 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I agree, make GPLv3 < 1330811633 35732 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there FPGA which does not support encryption, and that has open specification? < 1330812021 14891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330812215 967366 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330812550 214288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330812719 867898 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1330812720 56881 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330812933 390269 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ching < 1330812933 613125 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1330813044 506494 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1330813194 787113 :kmc!~keegan@c-24-130-174-20.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1330813442 14822 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330813776 62534 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330813811 482354 :dunny1!~sdd@86.90.128.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1330813919 28412 :dunny1!~sdd@86.90.128.109 PART :#esoteric < 1330814610 117841 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330814831 119626 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1330814980 347552 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-19-178.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330815024 23892 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1330816409 438856 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1330816676 44874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1330817370 813188 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy UPDATE < 1330817387 327938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, why doesn't tab-complete work in mkdir for the name of the new directory < 1330817411 102596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote bleh, why doesn't tab-complete work in mkdir for the name of the new directory < 1330817414 412954 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :818) bleh, why doesn't tab-complete work in mkdir for the name of the new directory < 1330817428 290192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a rhetorical question :) < 1330817455 26986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO YOU SAY < 1330817614 494484 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ask the same question every time I mkdir < 1330817660 314320 :Friendship!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... don't. < 1330817688 378565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a world in which it _did_ work. < 1330817936 672464 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that system could just figure out the whole command for you, all you need to do is press tab and enter, tab enter, tab enter until you're done < 1330818118 577603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oops! How are you supposed to play Hero Hearts if the hearts are upsidedown? <-- play villain hearts duh < 1330818182 849415 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the hearts are upside down, it's hero butts? < 1330818225 804661 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hero Nuts < 1330818276 86256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the villains tend to be the butt of the joke < 1330818603 514621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :new mezzacotta blog posts! it's only been 1 1/2 years!