00:00:32 Ǔ̈ 00:00:39 Feh, they don't combine right in this font. 00:12:53 -!- oerjan has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:13:56 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:17:45 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 00:28:36 -!- MSleep has joined. 00:31:41 -!- elliott has joined. 00:32:58 16:56:07: kallisti, but why not just leave the animal alive so it generates more heat? 00:33:06 Phantom_Hoover: Um excuse me the obvious thing to do is to cuddle a rabbit? 00:33:14 elliott, I don't have a rabbit :( 00:33:19 And my cat has fleas. 00:33:20 Phantom_Hoover: :( 00:33:42 HP announces that they will open source WebOS! (hp.com) 00:33:52 FINALLY A MEDIOCRE OPEN-SOURCE LINUX-BASED MOBILE PHONE OPERATING SYSTEM! 00:33:55 JUST WHAT I'VE ALWAYS WANTED 00:34:20 18:12:15: core.c:1:0: error: ISO C forbids an empty translation unit [-Werror=edantic] 00:34:24 Gregor: E...dantic? 00:35:00 19:29:04: is there a way to get find to put quotes around files? 00:35:00 19:29:18: or to otherwise make them readable by grep without spaces messing up things? 00:35:09 kallisti: -exec or -print0 + xargs -0 00:35:42 19:29:46: don't have spaces 00:36:05 monqy: I would revoke your @ Club membership but spaces in filenames are pretty much hell in Unix. 00:37:42 i was jokeing................. 00:37:59 monqy: monqy....i know........ 00:38:05 elliott: ................................. 00:38:28 MegaUpload is currently being portrayed by the MPAA and RIAA as one of the world’s leading rogue sites. But top music stars including P Diddy, Will.i.am, Alicia Keys, Snoop Dogg and Kanye West disagree and are giving the site their full support in a brand new song. (torrentfreak.com) 00:38:32 FINALLY A SONG ABOUT MEGAUPLOAD 00:38:50 THANK YOU TOP MUSIC STARS INCLUDING P DIDDY, WILL.I.AM, ALICIA KEYS, SNOOP DOGG AND KANYE WEST!!!! 00:39:28 i must hear this 00:40:04 "this isn't a song it's a fucking commercial." cry 00:40:09 but uh 00:40:09 http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-label-artists-a-list-stars-endorse-megaupload-in-new-song-111209/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Torrentfreak+%28Torrentfreak%29 00:40:30 mega song 00:40:32 http://torrentfreak.com/images/megaartist2.jpg 00:40:38 i cant 00:40:42 comprehend this 00:40:47 Kanye West, signed to Universal-owned Def Jam, likes to use Megaupload “…because it’s the fastest and safest way to send files – period.” 00:40:56 thisi is beautiful 00:41:05 i want to live in a world where top music stars tweet about their favourite upload sites 00:41:15 and theyre all megaupload 00:41:19 Snoop Dogg, signed to EMI-owned Priority, uses it “…because it keeps the kids off the street,” 00:41:27 actual quote 00:41:48 wow this songe............ 00:42:17 http://torrentfreak.com/images/megastats1.jpg i don't quite understand this, i've always thought megaupload was like one of the least professional looking upload site 00:42:17 s 00:42:40 “It works like an ad blocker but instead of blocking ads we show ads coming from Megaclick, our ad network,” says Kim. “This way we will generate enough ad revenue to provide free premium services and licensed content so that our users can have it for free.” 00:42:47 it works like an ad blocker but instead of blocking ads it shows ads 00:42:54 what a crap 00:42:59 heh that's actually quite clever though 00:43:05 replace other people's ads with your ads and give them free shit for it 00:43:10 i mean 00:43:17 -!- copumpkin has joined. 00:43:19 if you don't block ads and they're not annoying flash crap you havent' got much to lose from that 00:43:22 unless the software is scummy 00:43:24 which it will be 00:44:01 new pixley release :D 00:44:12 at least the lyrics are fine 00:44:35 are we listening to the same song 00:44:47 he's listening to the premium version 00:44:47 :p 00:44:55 http://torrentfreak.com/images/megastats2.jpg 00:44:58 8 times the population of atlanta 00:45:05 oh my god 00:45:05 Update: Universal Music has removed the video from YouTube on copyright grounds. 00:45:11 lol 00:45:18 is that for real 00:45:56 great 00:46:08 what is the difference between a duck? 00:48:28 One of them isn't 00:48:51 * Phantom_Hoover → sleep 00:48:53 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:55:36 monqy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Schmitz megaupload guy sure is legit 00:56:06 great 00:57:14 "Am I the only one who suspects there's kickbacks being thrown around? The "song" seemed more like an advertising jingle to me." 00:57:20 monqy: reddit finds out.....the HIDDEN TRUTH 00:57:35 we so gullible :( 00:58:23 :( 01:20:49 21:49:48: The NUL-terminated strings have been called "The Most Expensive One-byte Mistake" in widely pasted-in-IRC-and-everywhere http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2010365 (disclaimer: this does not constitute endorsement of the aforementioned article) 01:20:57 fizzie: Whereas null is the most expensive four-byte mistake. 01:21:01 Or was it two in those days? 01:21:10 21:50:20: What expensive mistakes are there? NUL-terminate strings, null, what else? 01:21:29 Sgeo: Computers. Capitalism. Civilisation. Life. The universe. Everything. 01:21:34 HTH 01:22:01 I just thought of something 01:22:21 Could Haskell strings be thought of as null-terminated strings, even if that's not what they are physically? 01:22:32 After all, they're terminated by a sentinel value 01:22:47 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: MADNESS!). 01:22:48 Well, hmm, not quite the right way to describe it 01:23:39 Issues of run-time complexity should crop up identically. Issues of inability to deal with what should be a valid character don't. 01:23:47 Sgeo: Not really, since [] is in the tail position, not the head position 01:24:17 Uh...? 01:24:30 In what way do NUL-terminated strings have a sentinel at the head? 01:25:13 (:) 'a' ((:) 'b' ((:) 'c' ((:) '\0' ...))) 01:25:32 Note how NUL occurs as first argument to (:), not second 01:26:42 22:06:44: a python error-quine would be the worst. 01:26:43 kallisti: been done 01:27:05 -!- oerjan has joined. 01:27:06 22:09:04: !bf 01:27:06 22:09:08: oerjan: there 01:27:06 22:09:11: null quine. 01:27:06 22:09:12: we win. 01:27:13 kallisti: nope, EgoBot didn't respond with a 0-byte message 01:27:33 actually if the logs' lack of space after "bf" is accurate then it'd have to be a -1-byte message 01:27:35 elliott, that sounds like a fancy way of saying that unlike Haskell lists, \0 is actually a value just like other characters 01:27:57 It doesn't solve run-time time-complexity issues 01:27:57 Sgeo: Nah, you could have Maybe Char instead 01:28:01 And make NUL be Nothing 01:28:08 I'm not trying to solve any "issues". 01:28:17 I'm just making a point that [] is fundamentally different from a sentinel. 01:28:21 Ah 01:28:47 I guess the big problem with NUL-terminated strings is that it's a sentinel, rather than the time it takes to deal with them? 01:28:50 data Stream a = Cons a (Stream a); abc :: Stream (Maybe Char); abc = Cons (Just 'a') . Cons (Just 'b') . Cons (Just 'c') . Cons Nothing $ undefined 01:28:54 That's more like C strings. 01:28:59 Where undefined represents your program segfaulting :P 01:29:13 In Haskell of course you do not need things like '\0' at the end since you can just find the end of the list. 01:29:19 Sgeo: Well, length being O(n) sucks too 01:29:23 But it allows laziness 01:29:56 Yes, which memory encoding of strings you use is best really depend on purposes 01:30:39 Laziness without lazy I/O is not as much fun as lazy I/O, I think 01:31:24 Guess I hate fun, then 01:32:07 -!- MSleep has changed nick to MDude. 01:33:43 elliott, what are some nice uses of string laziness? 01:34:06 It's just list laziness... 01:34:28 If you're asking me to explain to you why laziness is beneficial for algorithms in general, uhh, I'm not qualified to teach such a fundamental thing. 01:38:28 Gregor: E...dantic? <-- apparently -pedantic enables the somewhat lexically confused -Werror=edantic 01:38:37 Wow :P 01:38:41 -Wedanti 01:38:42 c 01:38:50 Gregor: -pedantic-errors, surely 01:39:08 I'd like to know if it's known whether laziness is a net positive or a net negative. Although I'd guess (only a guess, I may be not knowledgeable enough to guess) that laziness is good for time-complexity and bad for space-complexity 01:39:19 elliott: Err, yes, but I had -pedantic -Werror, so equivalent. 01:39:34 Sgeo: That's... not something that can be objectively decided. 01:39:43 elliott, kallisti update 01:39:52 Gregor: I bet it's a frontend bug; it probably does printf("[enabled by -Wall=%s]", option_name+1);. 01:39:58 "pedantic"+1 = "edantic" 01:39:58 elliott, kallisti nope, sorry 01:40:20 Sgeo: Anyway, strictness is easier to do in a lazy language than laziness in a strict one. 01:40:24 -Wall -Werror -ansi -pedantic tells you nice things such as the fact that strdup isn't part of the C standard. Or POSIX until 2008. 01:40:54 Making a lazy program strict is just putting seqs everywhere (which is trivial with sugar); making a strict programs lazy involves lots and lots of thunk creation and redefining data types and bullshit. 01:41:11 ofc a fully-strict lazy program has overhead. 01:41:29 Although I wouldn't be surprised if GHC can avoid building up unevaluated thunks entirely if you make everything strict. 01:41:32 (Not that you'd want to.) 01:41:36 Gregor: 01:41:38 `quote strdup 01:41:39 and a fully strict program would be awful to write in Haskell. 01:41:41 492) 99% OF USES OF STRDUP ARE ILLEGAL! 01:42:21 Define "illegal" :P 01:42:37 I mean, mine have #define _SVID_SOURCE at the top. 'cuz hell yeah System V Interfaces Definition. 01:42:58 Also: 01:43:03 `@ elliott quote strdup 01:43:05 elliott: 492) 99% OF USES OF STRDUP ARE ILLEGAL! 01:43:07 Heww yeah 01:43:10 hmm, strings can be pretty large considering that they're immutable in many languages/programs 01:43:16 Gregor: Heww yeah what 01:43:28 that's a lot of copying to do. 01:43:31 elliott: You put "Gregor:" on a separate line in spite of the fact that you implemented `@ :P 01:43:32 (for large strings) 01:43:33 kallisti: Dude, that's what sharing is for. 01:43:42 Obviously Python doesn't do that, but it's Python. 01:43:47 Gregor: Oh :P 01:43:56 elliott: what languages do sharing besides Haskell? 01:44:06 Every... language with pointers? 01:44:15 Python just can't share strings because it uses a flat byte-array representation. 01:44:23 "languages with pointers" don 01:44:29 don't count as "languages with immutable strings" 01:44:34 well... 01:44:40 I never said they did. You are confused. 01:44:40 unless the strings are... immutable still. :P 01:45:20 Haskell doesn't do sharing 01:45:33 Jafet: Indeed. 01:45:42 elliott: also perl doesn't really do sharing (I think?) 01:45:43 "Enjoy happy hour premium with Mega Manager weekdays from 9am to 11am UTC." 01:45:45 2 = 1 01:45:58 kallisti: So if I put a 1 gigabyte object in a list in Perl, it copies it? 01:46:00 elliott: not without explicit reference handling 01:46:10 elliott: well, no... 01:46:14 @wn sharing 01:46:15 Error: connect: does not exist (Connection refused) 01:46:18 my @foo = ($a, $a, $a, $a); # 4 copies of $a? 01:46:22 elliott: because an object in a list is a ref. 01:47:12 elliott: well, perl /might/ share strings. I honestly don't know. the semantics aren't clearly documented if that's the case. 01:47:29 You are again confused by thinking that sharing has anything to do with whether strings are byte arrays or not. 01:47:46 elliott: you are confused in that you somehow think that's what I'm talking about? 01:47:58 when, as I recall, you are the only one who mentioned that. 01:48:02 yawn 01:50:19 !perl my $a = 2; my @foo = ($a,$a,$a,$a); $a++; print @foo 01:50:20 2222 01:51:15 !perl my $a = "aaaaaaaaaaaaah"; my @foo = ($a,$a,$a,$a); splice $a, 0, 2; print @foo 01:51:16 Type of arg 1 to splice must be array (not private variable) at /tmp/input.32432 line 1, near "2;" 01:51:28 oh right. 01:51:50 !perl my $a = "aaaaaaaaaaaaah"; my @foo = ($a,$a,$a,$a); $a =~ s/a/x/g; print @foo 01:51:51 aaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaah 01:51:54 aaah 01:52:55 elliott: so yes, unless perl does something fancy, there are four copies of $a. 01:53:24 That's... 01:53:47 No, that's a fucking idiotic test because even if it did do what you're saying it doesn't (which isn't really about sharing at all) WITHOUT doing anything fancy you'd still get those results. 01:54:19 elliott: please tell me what I meant to say then. 01:54:22 or whatever. 01:54:33 I wish I knew. 01:54:45 =~ doesn't mutate $a? 01:54:49 yes it does. 01:55:12 kallisti: 01:55:19 if it didn't 99% of my perl programs are broken and yet magically work. 01:55:25 !perl my $a = 0; my $b = $a; $a++; print "$b\n"; 01:55:25 -!- oerjan has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:55:26 0 01:55:35 elliott: yes? 01:55:49 OH SHIT MAYBE $a++ IS JUST SUGAR FOR $a=$a+1 AND NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH MUTATION 01:55:55 AND MAYBE... JUST MAYBE... =~ IS ANALOGUOUS 01:56:00 try sth like $a = 0; $foo.add($a); $a=1; $foo.add($a); and so on 01:56:05 And maybe you don't know the difference between a variable and the value inside. 01:56:09 So = copies? 01:56:12 elliott: I think you're confused about what I'm saying. 01:56:14 Sgeo: yes 01:56:17 that is how = works 01:56:19 then print 01:56:24 kallisti: I'm not, but I'm also done with this idiocy. 01:56:51 So, how is this not a trivially obvious result? 01:57:01 Sgeo: it is a trivially obvious result. 01:57:08 he was trying to prove some point that wasn't entirely clear. 01:57:53 if $a is reference in the list, all values in the list would be the same, right? 01:58:19 my claim was basically "perl makes copies of very large strings because of normal pass by value semantics" 01:58:26 but, it apparently has something to do with byte arrays. 01:58:42 I think elliott assumed you thought it had something to do with byte arrays 01:59:03 perhaps elliott thinks he's me sometimes, and so he confuses things he says with things I say. 01:59:17 Sgeo will be your human chinese whispers simulation fort he night. 01:59:19 *for the 01:59:50 lol, the name "chinese whispers" apparently comes from Chinese being incomprehensible to Europeans 01:59:54 racism :') 02:00:25 I had to look up what that even is. 02:00:53 because I'm an American. If something applies to "the world" it probably doesn't apply to "the United States" 02:01:38 I think it's only called chinese whispers over here. 02:01:54 elliott: racists 02:02:03 Yep. 02:03:15 Here we've got the much less racist name "telephone". 02:04:20 you need to have a civil war involving (among other things) a slave trade followed by years of injustice followed by a peaceful reform movement followed by tension and inequality that continues into the 21st century.. in order to see the error of your ways 02:04:20 I'll call it that in the future when I talk about it :P (which will be: never) 02:04:45 kallisti: Yes, in the UK we have absolutely no racial tension and equality. 02:04:55 elliott: as I suspected 02:05:17 That is why right-wingers are so fucking scared of immigrants. 02:05:18 *inequality 02:05:18 Nice slip. 02:06:01 elliott: especially Muslims right? 02:06:21 elliott: I recently learned about some conspiracy theory that people believe in Europe that /muslims are taking over Europe/ or something? 02:06:26 that's hilarious. 02:07:23 My dad was talking about something in France, and apparently shares Gingritch's concern about Muslims taking over the US 02:07:35 *Gingrich 02:07:39 elliott: it may not be lol 02:07:41 eritoiuertiuertiu 02:07:49 What. 02:07:51 s/.*lol/lol/ 02:07:51 take over? 02:07:55 Sgeo: they are, actually. 02:08:05 We sent them packing and they were like "alright, where can we try next". 02:08:36 elliott: Barack /HUSSEIN/ Obama 02:08:43 elliott: it's already happened apparently. 02:08:52 I'm kind of astonished you guys elected a guy with "Hussein" in his name. 02:09:00 me too. 02:09:06 it's because he's so black. and motivational. 02:09:19 but also so white?? 02:09:41 these are all things that concern us Americans 02:11:11 my state produces awesome politicians. see: Newt Gingrich 02:12:59 (in case it wasn't clear, I think Georgia is a shit state.) 02:13:04 (okay? good.) 02:18:11 so one of the republicans next candidates for president is black too, right?..that kind of surprised me 02:18:49 hagb4rd: herman cain is out 02:18:53 i believe 02:19:04 well i don't think he's officially out yet but he's "suspended his campaign" and there's no way it's gonna continue 02:19:35 thx for update 02:20:53 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 02:22:45 hagb4rd: He's fucked up in all the ways Republicans like, so eh. 02:23:57 There was an Onion thing about that 02:24:07 Republicans will suspend racism if the candidate is sufficiently nutty. 02:24:18 Same reason why all their female candidates have been batshit insane. 02:24:26 (Well, sexism there of course) 02:25:02 -!- Vorpal has joined. 02:25:14 If they ever find a woman to elect to the office of President on the platform of ending women's suffrage, she'll be their nominee. 02:27:47 -!- Madoka-Kaname has quit (Quit: Hug~♪). 02:28:30 -!- Madoka-Kaname has joined. 02:28:41 The book "Science Made Stupid" ends with a list of things that might happen in the future (some already have), one of them is a woman president. Some things in the list are reasonable but a few are just funny instead. 02:29:00 rofl 02:30:10 -!- derdon has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:30:10 pure gonzo :) 02:31:10 -!- Deathly has joined. 02:31:20 Republicans will suspend racism if the candidate is sufficiently nutty. 02:31:20 Same reason why all their female candidates have been batshit insane. 02:31:20 (Well, sexism there of course) 02:31:26 Gregor: For some definition of "suspend" :P 02:31:32 what is esoteric? 02:31:33 Fair 'nuff. 02:31:39 `welcome Deathly 02:31:42 Deathly: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page 02:31:48 If they find a black gay atheist woman to elect to the office of President on the platform of ending suffrage for all of the above, there won't be any other nominees. 02:32:10 !bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>++++++<<<<-]>--.>+.----.+++++++++++++++++++.------------.++++.+++++++++++++.>>--.<++.<<++++++++++++++++.++++++++++++++++++++.+.>------.>.<<.>.>.<<----.>.----.+++++.<.>--.---------.<--.>>>------------.<----------------------. 02:32:10 Deathly: This is esoteric. 02:32:21 Well, except Ron Paul. 02:32:31 X-D 02:32:39 i herd u liek mudkipz 02:32:53 Who, of course, runs on the platform of "the federal government should do nothing!" 02:33:10 Deathly: You just forfeited your privilege to be treat nicely by me with that :( 02:33:16 O: 02:33:18 but why 02:33:44 because i'm a bad person :'( 02:33:53 pikhq: And of course Rick Perry, saying that there's something wrong with a country where gays can serve in the military but we don't elect a douchebag as president. 02:34:03 `addquote pikhq: And of course Rick Perry, saying that there's something wrong with a country where gays can serve in the military but we don't elect a douchebag as president. 02:34:06 752) pikhq: And of course Rick Perry, saying that there's something wrong with a country where gays can serve in the military but we don't elect a douchebag as president. 02:34:26 That was definitely not the most quotable quote of this conversation :P 02:34:32 you're the kind of person that would pass laws to protect it's government from it's own citizenship. 02:34:35 ): 02:34:53 Deathly: To protect... it is government from it is own citizenship? 02:34:58 I'm also the kind of person that would use "its" and "it's" properly. 02:35:00 the first sign of corruption in government in my book. 02:35:10 Deathly: So what Presidential candidate do you support 02:35:14 `addqote The book "Science Made Stupid" ends with a list of things that might happen in the future (some already have), one of them is a woman president. Some things in the list are reasonable but a few are just funny instead. 02:35:17 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: addqote: not found 02:35:33 Deathly: Um? Where the heck is that coming from, anyways? 02:35:33 a person is an it? 02:35:41 `addquote The book "Science Made Stupid" ends with a list of things that might happen in the future (some already have), one of them is a woman president. Some things in the list are reasonable but a few are just funny instead. 02:35:43 No, but "it's" is "it is" 02:35:44 753) The book "Science Made Stupid" ends with a list of things that might happen in the future (some already have), one of them is a woman president. Some things in the list are reasonable but a few are just funny instead. 02:35:57 so? 02:36:08 Deathly: So what Presidential candidate do you support 02:36:12 it's ok, because it's just grammar 02:36:33 i support ronald reagan 02:36:41 * elliott doesn't actually care about grammar/orthography/etc. except when he's trying to be an asshole. 02:36:51 elliott: Same 'ere 8-D 02:37:00 Deathly: You seem to be in 1980. 02:37:14 Deathly: Which is great, because IRC doesn't exist and so you cannot possibly be here. 02:37:14 Deathly: You seem to believe in necrocracy. 02:37:17 i'm stuck in Commodore Basic 4.0 too 02:37:18 :/ 02:37:23 Man, *I* believe in necrocracy! 02:37:28 Who couldn't believe in something with a name like that? 02:37:35 elliott: Uhh, excuse me, I think something is wrong with a country where gays can serve openly in the military but we can't elect a zombie president. 02:37:43 hagb4rd: You forgot one space, I think 02:38:17 10 PRINT "RON PAUL RLOVEUTION! ";:GOTO 10 02:38:21 RUN 02:39:07 R...love...ution ... is this some kind of broken portmanteau of "revolution" and "love" ... by making part of the word almost as backwards as Ron Paul himself ... ? 02:39:07 Gregor: "Something is wrong with a country where gays can serve openly in the military but I can't seem to find any of them in public restrooms." --Rick Perry 02:39:10 ?BREAK IN 10 02:39:10 -!- Patashu has joined. 02:39:11 Unknown command, try @list 02:39:12 READY. 02:39:15 elliott: X-D 02:39:52 Deathly: rloveution <-- please tell me you're serious 02:40:08 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/23/politics/uwire/main3745648.shtml 02:40:08 WHAT 02:40:10 Please don't tell me you're not trolling. 02:40:10 how is this a real thing 02:40:18 rLOVEution............... 02:40:43 Deathly: thank you, you've helped prove to me that no matter how ridiculous I think ron paul is, he will always be way more ridiculous than that 02:41:12 I'm voting Ron Paul, just because I can. 02:42:26 does Excalibur give you agrivate monster? 02:42:54 yea blame socialism and become president..old fashioned but efficient 02:43:54 elliott: OMG OMG 02:44:03 elliott: Post found on Rick Perry's FB wall: 02:44:04 I am an admirer of the Confederate States of America and no doubt a substantial number of the men who fought under the Confederate Battle Flags were homosexuals, it would not surprise me either if some lesbians joined the CSA front-line military forces by disguising themselves as men. I opposed the repeal of DADT not because I supported it but because it was hugely hypocritical of Obama who as an Islamist or FT supports murdering gay and lesbian people, 02:44:04 to be falsely posturing himself as a friend of the LGBTI community. That said DADT was stupid and now that it is gone, it would be idiotic to reinstate it. 02:44:31 terrorists are everywhere, if you see them in your neighborhood, call homeland security! remember only YOU can prevent forest communis... terrorists. 02:44:41 Gregor: What 02:44:46 elliott: JUST TAKE IT ALL IN 02:45:20 Obama is a hitlerosexual 02:45:25 Gregor: I'm trying to reconcile the fact that this guy supports the Confederacy and thinks Obama is a muslim but also supports LGBT rights. 02:45:44 elliott: It's amazing, innit. 02:46:03 and the best part is, it's all trooo 02:46:04 ll 02:46:11 I hope so :P 02:46:47 As a troll though, it's a piece of art. 02:46:48 isnt doom 3 just doom 2 with an extra level? 02:46:48 or was that doom 2? 02:46:51 It's a masterwork. 02:47:11 #iodoom3 loves me now 02:47:48 doom 2 is just doom 2 with an extra level, yes 02:50:50 the extra level is a game where you flip a coin but it's really really big 02:51:23 how are you supposed to tell the difference between ice and nonice in the valkyrie quest with colors off? 02:52:12 elliott, keep in mind that some supporter of idea X being an idiot implies nothing about X 02:52:19 Well, hmm, not sure if it's "nothing" 02:52:29 Sgeo: What 02:53:02 idiots are everywhere 02:53:13 elliott: Not just a Muslim, an Islamist. 02:53:20 or at least it seems that way when you are in the intellectual 99th percentile 02:54:16 i remember playing doom 02:54:18 that game rocked 02:54:18 it was so much better than commander keen 02:54:20 got me kicked 02:54:21 :/ 02:54:53 they dont like talking about doom 1 or 2 i guess 02:54:56 only doom 3 02:56:02 :o 02:56:23 sometime i should play doom 02:56:55 pikhq: Hm, there's a difference? 02:56:58