< 1321920054 786841 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it would make sense that you could delete all data prior to an execution step if you decide to jump back to a particualar execution step < 1321920080 273603 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, I was thinking that it would be nice if you could then move forward from there if you wanted. < 1321920222 863327 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i mean that a real reversible implementation would physically deconstruct the original data when constructing the new < 1321920308 729836 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: doesn't that still imply some sort of incurring memory overhead? < 1321920318 361555 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the "constructing the new part" < 1321920347 778090 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, but you only use the memory for your current data structure at any time... < 1321920364 828564 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well, yes that's how this would works, kind of. < 1321920367 413531 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no not realy. < 1321920373 370295 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's the same thing :P < 1321920395 134879 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a notion of "current data" within a larger graph data structure. < 1321920432 500883 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "current data" i mean all of your current state, of course < 1321920447 770517 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may end up being a tree and not a cyclic graph. < 1321920454 119716 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure. < 1321920482 587782 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on whether or not a node can have more than one ancestor edge. < 1321920525 295879 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I really don't know how "reverse this value" would look like if you have possibly two or more ancestors. nondeterminism I guess? < 1321920566 615628 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki spam is really out of hand < 1321920598 838697 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: linear lisp to the rescue < 1321920619 579695 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: linear logic was in my mind < 1321920686 712104 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: http://www.pipeline.com/~hbaker1/LinearLisp.html < 1321920824 842544 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, that article is too dijkstraan < 1321920837 394532 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://home.pipeline.com/~hbaker1/LQsort.html < 1321920904 689580 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321920912 204934 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-213-101.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321921021 792292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Dijkstraan is a good word. < 1321921190 88472 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the Haskell library have operator "bind but use first result value"? < 1321921203 337598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1321921264 561393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: gcc is getting STM, nee-ner nee-ner < 1321921287 580573 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean is Monad m => m a -> (a -> m b) -> m a; What ought its symbol be, and how much would it be used? < 1321921344 973975 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I saw that >_> < 1321921360 373480 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: My friend across the way told me this, while we both mocked how terrible that is. < 1321921378 934276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Since it's C, I'll agree with the mocking :P < 1321921388 658631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: BUT I'M ISSUING A WARNING < 1321921397 986956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :__transaction_atomic is definitely the best keyword. < 1321921400 629756 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: <<= :P < 1321921413 285484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Ooh, neat, the isolation is only from other transactions. < 1321921424 704757 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: That is for comonads < 1321921429 89942 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: =>> ? < 1321921429 263656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: So as soon as you access one of these outside of a __transaction_atomic all your guarantees go out the window. < 1321921442 627240 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: That is also for comonads it is <<= with arguments flipped < 1321921443 398044 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: <>>=? (more :P) < 1321921466 200193 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose <>>= can do < 1321921472 661000 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djini < 1321921473 64130 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1321921477 948998 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: How insanely C-like. < 1321921604 656309 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djini (Monad m) => m a -> (a -> m b) -> m a < 1321921604 864675 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn < 1321921604 910541 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn (Monad m) => m a -> (a -> m b) -> m a < 1321921604 910653 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1321921604 983102 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a _ = a < 1321921605 311500 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot parse command < 1321921605 378761 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a _ = a < 1321921605 424294 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.haskell.org/lambdabot/COMMANDS < 1321921605 494807 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1321921605 540210 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 + 1 < 1321921605 876222 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1321921607 146809 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1321921621 619888 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lagging badly < 1321921676 777262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no, lambdabot was < 1321921733 800686 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was too, the lag thingy was going haywire
< 1321921752 547501 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321921753 686515 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: Ooh, neat, the isolation is only from other transactions. Gregor: So as soon as you access one of these outside of a __transaction_atomic all your guarantees go out the window. // no shit? < 1321921766 731940 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, not our fault! < 1321921773 140351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: See, I'm used to decent languages, where doing that is impossible :-) < 1321921774 478283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What? < 1321921795 57356 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lambdabot slowdown. < 1321921796 666734 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Type systems are for losers. < 1321921802 909947 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yeah I'm sure that's why kmc just joined. < 1321921811 657670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh, looks like "STM" is inaccurate, seems like the work is being done by a company that does hardware TM :P < 1321921814 463235 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, am I again going to have to explain that I'm not an idiot and I was trying to make a joke? < 1321921828 648981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Apparently < 1321921828 998177 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, but it has a software TM. < 1321921849 252840 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's actually "*TM", where * is filled in with what's appropriate on the current platform. < 1321921853 780353 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1321921854 357529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Sortofmediumware TM < 1321921917 238996 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way guys, m68k sux. < 1321921955 969071 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sucks... with GOODNESS. < 1321921994 793504 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's so far beyond impossible to make anything m68k work in a modern system. < 1321922010 541957 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emulation? Ha. Cross-compilation? As if. < 1321922027 350555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Emulation is not that hard... < 1321922037 209104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: There are perfectly decent Mac emulators. < 1321922047 502190 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Most (read: all) do not emulate the MMU, so can only run Mac OS. < 1321922052 961246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat :P < 1321922066 590418 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How often would you expect to use such an operator as I have described? < 1321922068 248204 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could've *sworn* there were emulators that handled A/UX. < 1321922070 258317 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I wonder if you could add so many syntax gimmicks that imperative code in Haskell resembled other imperative code. < 1321922075 46501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Even Mini vMac? I say this because MINI VMAC'S BUILD SYSTEM IS CLASSIC MAC OS-ONLY AND I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS < 1321922077 464714 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm yet to find one. < 1321922084 144739 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but operated with monads and type safety underneath. < 1321922095 858446 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How to build the Mini vMac program from the source code. < 1321922095 973227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :First download the source code archive from the download page, a file with the name “minivmac-3.1.3.src.zip”. Extract from this zip file a disk image (named “minivmac-3.1.3.src.dsk”). < 1321922096 19003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now launch Mini vMac (version 3.0.0 or later), booting from a disk image containing a system folder. (The source code disk image doesn't contain a system folder.) (See the Start page for information about getting started with Mini vMac.) < 1321922096 19164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mount the source code disk image in Mini vMac. At the top level of this disk is an application named "Build". Launch this application. A text editing window will open in which to type in the desired options." < 1321922099 666938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: LOOK AT THIS!!!! < 1321922108 575322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "If this option is used by itself, the build system will generate the files needed to compile the standard version of Mini vMac for Macintosh OS X on Intel using Apple's Xcode 2.4.1 development environment." < 1321922142 830736 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321922144 378144 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: In my opinion, there ought to be macros, that allow you to implement such things as that, but it ought not be a part of standard Haskell. < 1321922161 594161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: It does. < 1321922172 268115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: If you do everything in IO with do notation, Haskell looks just like Python. < 1321922183 207455 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not quite. < 1321922190 874803 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Shame, it'd be really neat to (ab)use X to have a DOS/UNIX/Mac OS setup. < 1321922192 820311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It really does. < 1321922193 717661 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. Even if you use layout it won't be like Python. < 1321922194 195963 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you're using mutable refs. < 1321922201 36831 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need the newBlahRef stuff < 1321922204 822302 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and readBlahRef stuff < 1321922226 402723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: (=:) = writeIORef < 1321922230 957903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: var = newIORef < 1321922240 78046 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle ($$) < 1321922240 360278 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text.PrettyPrint.HughesPJ ($$) :: Doc -> Doc -> Doc < 1321922240 566133 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text.PrettyPrint ($$) :: Doc -> Doc -> Doc < 1321922240 611516 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language.Haskell.TH.PprLib ($$) :: Doc -> Doc -> Doc < 1321922245 364426 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :($$) = readIORef < 1321922246 605375 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1321922255 525903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: (^) = readIORef -- needs GHC extension so you can use it postfix < 1321922264 77831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like (a^), not a^, unfortunately) < 1321922279 354929 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: But anyway, yes: < 1321922288 70202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: http://augustss.blogspot.com/2011/07/impredicative-polymorphism-use-case-in.html < 1321922291 419673 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I just want one more arch so I can say my JIT supports a dozen archs. < 1321922332 147576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which dozen? < 1321922350 454973 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm cheating by e.g. calling x86 and x86_64 distinct, and powerpc and powerpc64 distinct :P < 1321922370 406215 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Is the version on bitbucket the new JIT style? < 1321922377 549702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't look like it, but... < 1321922386 409434 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's in a branch. < 1321922387 652152 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I wonder what the def $: bit is < 1321922393 166244 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Which one :P < 1321922409 257069 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Innit obvious? < 1321922426 738210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What the fuck is funcelision? Ohh, func elision < 1321922429 620981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's recordconditional :P < 1321922442 519734 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those two branches are things that didn't work, but could have :) < 1321922451 610425 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I wouldn't consider the x86/x86_64 bit a cheat. < 1321922455 795405 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Is recordconditional just doing if (compiling) record(...)? < 1321922463 829534 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yuh. < 1321922471 33168 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86_64 really *is* distinct from x86 in many rather important ways. < 1321922492 105405 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Why didn't that work? < 1321922505 691191 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It would arrange the jumps in a shitty way :( < 1321922509 215746 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PPC64, though? Total cheat. < 1321922519 294782 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Worked on x86[_64], but broke a bunch of other stuff. < 1321922605 60886 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm guessing $: is just another $ but with different precedence or something? < 1321922615 531323 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: HEY THEY'RE DIFFERENTish < 1321922627 977808 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How 'bout ARM/thumb :P < 1321922680 594581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I imagine ($) is used for something else. < 1321922746 780547 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also def < 1321922751 414975 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that do even? < 1321922924 60050 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask him < 1321922972 909211 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Whoops, doesn't work with thumb X-D < 1321922992 849441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like DUMB. < 1321923191 493115 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, thumb uses a different branch instruction to go into normal ARM code than it does to go into thumb code, and by default when you call a function pointer it goes to ARM. < 1321923193 297370 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, boink. < 1321923262 196361 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Jobs thriving Haskell job economy. < 1321923274 566473 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://www.haskellers.com/jobs < 1321923280 264743 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there are no active job listings" < 1321923328 64101 :pkzip!~a@109.160.202.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell should be in the Esoteric list of languages < 1321923345 292576 :pkzip!~a@109.160.202.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that are Esoteric < 1321923357 911382 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1321923358 69825 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1321923359 556222 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://functionaljobs.com/ there are four here, none of which are Haskell. < 1321923390 545621 :pkzip!~a@109.160.202.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who are the Others ? < 1321923402 57513 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: http://www.tsurucapital.com/en/jobs.html < 1321923408 960903 :pkzip!~a@109.160.202.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Languages) < 1321923438 564930 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You are often referred to as a machine, executing quickly and smartly, while challenging yourself and your colleagues." < 1321923443 587406 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they got any actual robot applicants < 1321923453 936480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: http://corp.galois.com/careers/ < 1321923469 820901 :pkzip!~a@109.160.202.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JLP quote ? < 1321923487 731484 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nice pay < 1321923496 635147 :pkzip!~a@109.160.202.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we throwing Star-Trek quotes yet ? < 1321923537 450787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"live long and prosper" -gandalf of the uss voyager < 1321923556 906927 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Insufficient trollery, same franchise used twice. < 1321923570 387932 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Live long and prosper." - Gandalf, Lord of the Sith < 1321923596 987001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It's funny because you're trolling people by implying that Voyager is part of the Star Trek franchise. < 1321923612 568946 :pkzip!~a@109.160.202.70 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1321923705 578992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: http://cufp.org/jobs/senior-architect-leading-investment-bank-f-net has legacy code written in haskell! < 1321923730 558947 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: now I just need to convince them that I know F#! < 1321923835 863346 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: upstadter's dooterfly < 1321924062 772359 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :In April 2009, when told about his Wikipedia article, he commented, "[It] is filled with inaccuracies, and it kind of depresses me." When asked why he didn't correct it, he replied, "The next day someone will fix it back."[25] (In Aug. 2011 Hofstadter said he is happy with the article and the only inaccurate part of his Wikipedia entry was the previous sentence because the inaccuracies were subsequently fixed.[citation need < 1321924070 916650 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed]) < 1321924080 840186 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :classic Hofstadter < 1321924117 119234 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also unverified < 1321924282 553497 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's funny because you're implying that Star Trek didn't end with DS9. < 1321924326 694623 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pikhq: Gregor: you're all implying that people care about Star Trek < 1321924336 637397 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I find greatly amusing. < 1321924343 877262 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: We do. < 1321924385 862145 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a vacuous implication: you do not exist, therefore the premise is false. < 1321924404 180798 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, TNG was pretty damned popular when it aired... < 1321924419 184837 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :subsequently everyone realized Star Trek is lame. < 1321924439 990086 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hater
< 1321924506 47141 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the 70's VW Beetle, the windshield-wiper fluid dispenser was powered by the air pressure in the spare tire in the trunk. < 1321924508 983474 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :..... < 1321924514 158707 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup! < 1321924521 554736 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's insane. < 1321924541 217713 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The car was designed around being cheap. < 1321924577 402038 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: not having full spare tires < 1321924597 539329 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also had an air-cooled engine. < 1321924600 962906 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted most spare tires have higher air pressure than normal tires because people typically don't refill them. < 1321924611 91129 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: well, most engines are "air-cooled" in some sense. < 1321924619 601919 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically you're saying "it has no cooling system" < 1321924645 886513 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Air-cooling" refers to a "cooling" system based exclusively around the flow of air. < 1321924663 296296 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. tell me more. :P < 1321924674 851764 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean is "you're a fucking moron". < 1321924758 273075 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of a cooling system I guess. < 1321924880 473936 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even in an engine with a broken liquid-cooling system and without a specifically design air-cooling system, the engine is still cooled significantly by airflow < 1321924895 296992 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the point that you can drive a car with a broken radiator as long as you're going somewhat fast. < 1321924904 754091 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't stop or slow down very much. < 1321924960 387525 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or live in a particularly cold area. < 1321925031 567647 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321925048 210543 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "car person" I'm friends with tried to tell me that the liquid-cooling system of a car is not comparable to a computer cooling system. < 1321925052 28231 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in the case of a car < 1321925057 281743 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "bringing cold in" < 1321925068 419914 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas in a computer it's "taking hot out" < 1321925068 786836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why people don't liquid-cool computers < 1321925071 775566 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the exact same methods < 1321925080 805880 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1321925085 469547 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...he's stupid. :P < 1321925113 451318 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1321925122 534964 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very similar, cars just have more heat to deal with. < 1321925138 266771 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bringing cold in < 1321925143 963767 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :....yeah < 1321925167 653154 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: kind of like how refrigerators "make cold" < 1321925174 476189 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, it's different. < 1321925177 837548 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because cold is a real thing! :P < 1321925246 888606 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1321925263 686211 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of baffled that cars have radiator fans. < 1321925278 684493 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering that they typically have a huge volume of airflow passing through the radiator. < 1321925286 294396 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the fans are there for when the car is moving slowly. < 1321925289 409829 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not when idling, I guess? < 1321925292 591029 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1321925294 888782 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321925298 418473 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, when idling your engine's not going to be very hot. < 1321925306 622729 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, relatively < 1321925310 204324 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still needs cooling < 1321925317 580270 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heat is always relative, anyways. :P < 1321925342 889388 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1321925421 225035 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot that goes into making an internal combution not destroy itself and everything it's connected to. < 1321925447 840281 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, to limit that destruction to something more manageable and slowly developing. < 1321925461 334733 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*internal combustion engine < 1321925516 482495 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, something that functions by rapid controlled explosions is a bit hard to engineer. :P < 1321925557 933456 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321925574 561159 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321925663 709155 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the UK (but applying only to England), the Road Traffic (Vehicle Emissions) (Fixed Penalty) Regulations 2002 (Statutory Instrument 2002 No. 1808)[14] introduced the concept of a "stationary idling offence". This means that a driver can be ordered "by an authorised person ... upon production of evidence of his authorisation, require him to stop the running of the engine of that vehicle" and a "person who fails to comply . < 1321925670 436213 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321925677 450007 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :... shall be guilty of an offence and be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale" < 1321925689 895439 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321925720 67020 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you there, sir! either stop wasting that meager amount of fuel, or expend vastly larger quantities moving somewhere this instant! < 1321925926 590277 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines someone evading the police after being ordered to stop idling.
< 1321926450 602991 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: it's illegal to idle a car unnecessarily in norway as well < 1321926592 525451 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-193-57.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1321926599 652135 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-232-132.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321926649 581243 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1321926649 867040 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Changing host < 1321926649 912308 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1321926683 272814 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in or close to settlements < 1321926743 513707 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both noise and pollution are listed as reasons < 1321926745 969184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1321926747 2927 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wankel_engine < 1321926753 757474 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a cool fucking thing. < 1321926787 604397 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(uk people may consider "close to settlements" to be redundant *MWAHAHAHA*) < 1321926849 98275 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hi < 1321926880 943706 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only problem is there's no way to really balance the fuel/air mixture, so you get basically equivalent fuel efficiency for comparable power. < 1321926902 595472 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's not really any benefit other than more power (still at the expense of an equal amount of fuel efficiency) < 1321926959 716384 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: very impolite!!!!!! we have lots of hills and farms < 1321926967 131306 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could make like... a 3L 4-rotor engine and get the same power as a really really big piston engine. < 1321927005 925699 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: O KAY < 1321927065 848853 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Mazda RX-8 for example gets 232 horsepower from 1.3 litres of displacement from 2 rotors. < 1321927104 770309 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the engine in my car gets 200 horsepower from 3.1 litres of displacement from 6 pistons < 1321927115 70919 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a big difference in size and complexity. < 1321927159 651926 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :150 horses, 40 camels and 1 orangutang < 1321927246 541023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell/2011-November/023072.html < 1321927378 648889 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: neat. < 1321927385 617095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :top of /r/haskell < 1321927387 768832 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, this is the kind of stuff I want to do. < 1321927413 799672 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't necessarily have to be Haskell. < 1321927421 874944 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't want to write /boring/ software < 1321927434 362718 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for the entire extent of my career. < 1321927440 951397 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will concede a few years.
< 1321927473 569175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have thought of that before going into programming. < 1321927572 255913 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, note that: despite the similarities in engine power between my car and the Mazda RX-8, the power-to-weight ratio is completely different. < 1321927604 173849 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the Mazda is about 1800 kgs lighter. < 1321927698 376937 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can take anything out of my car to make it lighter. < 1321927711 351869 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if I remove the entire body. < 1321927715 211212 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's a good idea. < 1321927730 520029 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cars are not a good place to hide bodies anyway < 1321927741 325395 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one actually needs those big heavy doors . < 1321927745 515928 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just slowing them down and wasting fuel. < 1321927756 551123 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: aerodynamics < 1321927794 523100 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if my cabin is a open frame with seats I'll have wicked awesome aerodynamics. :P < 1321927836 675337 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if by "wicked awesome" you mean "violent but inefficient", i guess < 1321927956 924546 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, my car will just intake so much oxygen that it creates a localized vacuum. < 1321927959 663971 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sound physics
< 1321927970 484255 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1321927994 701957 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway you look way cooler when you're driving in a spacesuit. < 1321928067 359368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: stig < 1321928105 670218 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION considers actually donating $10 to Wikipedia
< 1321928114 133366 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: excellent example. < 1321928127 566420 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321928165 553006 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines an engine powerful enough to suck all of the atmosphere off of the Earth.
< 1321928183 139503 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION begins planning his doomsday device.
< 1321928368 83464 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should expand this proposal to unix-like systems. < 1321928425 121989 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they need a lot of air cooling < 1321928478 206621 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321928528 383876 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is prone to turbulent subject change.
< 1321928547 765325 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: Worcestershire sauce is deliciously applicable to anything that tastes savory. < 1321928598 516700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know what that is youre not englsijh < 1321928685 630159 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sure I do. < 1321928691 708725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad preson < 1321928712 315687 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Lea and Perrins recipe used in the states is ALMOST the same as the one in great brittania < 1321928746 602952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"almost" < 1321928762 549574 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in it only changes the kind of vinegar and is pretty much exactly the same otherwise. < 1321928785 78805 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT NOW? < 1321928805 163142 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems "Median[original research?]" < 1321928813 546032 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :statistical calculations = original research < 1321928839 96409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: yeah to worse vinegar < 1321928861 696367 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-232-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :White instead of malt. < 1321928953 795817 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did someone say vinegar? < 1321928957 5084 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like vinegar. < 1321928960 417760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, JBethJenkinsj has spammed their user page twice :( < 1321928963 158416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :twice!!! < 1321928963 203592 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like balsamic vinegar in particular. < 1321928972 102161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Good person. < 1321928987 258265 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Balsamic vinegar is probably the best substance one can consume. < 1321929001 149432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sips his bottle of balsamic vinegar.
< 1321929014 927425 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've been known to do that. < 1321929018 434688 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In small quantities.) < 1321929030 160116 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you look up my name on the Google, you find an "Executive Profile" which mentions how I like balsamic vinegar. < 1321929034 447712 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I could get rid of that. < 1321929048 740754 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sue them < 1321929051 242291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to complain, but then I realised I've sipped small quantities of vanilla essence before. < 1321929054 891335 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION good advice
< 1321929126 490204 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how no one makes Windows supercomputers. < 1321929197 633568 :DCliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321929306 362049 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good application for chart-making? < 1321929342 851861 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :business meetings < 1321929366 400581 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what's a good software application that creates charts. < 1321929384 178956 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :picky, picky < 1321929388 538624 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321929442 609722 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1321929456 846992 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you randall munroe for overruling my browser's decision on how to view large pictures. i think i shall read something else. < 1321929504 73277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what decision is that < 1321929517 47815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, with a zoom thing < 1321929528 66447 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think that's reasonable since it's a very zoom ui type thing, and most browsers only offer one level of zoom... < 1321929532 724095 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sh, you just made xkcd's hits go up. < 1321929536 642275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's awkward to move around in 2d with them < 1321929563 158085 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, do you make the same complaint about google maps? < 1321929593 58055 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because they actually change the data displayed < 1321929628 86194 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'd rather they just gave me one bitmap and let me zoom myself. < 1321929632 553074 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: holy crap this is an awesome chart but I have no idea how to go about reading it. < 1321929634 426532 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes a lot more sense. < 1321929707 770494 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would think oerjan were reasonable if browsers actually had any kind of sane image navigation/zooming ui.
< 1321929708 757941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't < 1321929741 575264 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this chart must be why xkcd has been so shitty. < 1321929751 775912 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Randall's been compiling sources for this thing. < 1321929753 261712 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe what mostly irritates me is that it doesn't actually fill my browser window < 1321929782 686601 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also it steals history < 1321929791 680780 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit now i'm going to have to actually look at it anyhow < 1321929823 718628 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds the maximize button XD
< 1321929919 697732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: first they complain that they can't bookmark it, then you let them bookmark it and they complain it fills history... < 1321930308 717010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone ever been a bee < 1321930329 939941 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: probably. < 1321930335 302305 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I mean, not in reality. < 1321930362 169129 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's probable someone has had a weird dream or ingested a large quantity of hallucinogens and felt like a bee. < 1321930372 254562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh. you're so unhelpful < 1321930387 822445 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION steals the sacred chao
< 1321930405 840199 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: were you expecting a legitimate answer? < 1321930412 226380 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OBVIOSUYL quintopia ;Q;Q;Q;Q;Q; < 1321930434 720195 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you want it? < 1321930454 293868 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am willing to sell to a good home at a reasonable price < 1321930456 546685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :q q q q q qq q q q q q q q q q hi i wasnt intending to ping the quintopia but i pressed q and tab and the quintopia popped up < 1321930458 489121 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thems the breaks, < 1321930465 558855 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the breaks thatm ben broken < 1321930475 442777 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sound sleepy < 1321930479 201240 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :want a beer? < 1321930588 453688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not sleepy i just act like this sometimes < 1321930593 896712 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually when sleepy admittedly < 1321931699 394068 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321932203 709950 :DCliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: You are now graced with my absence. < 1321932540 76574 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1321932545 567935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1321932547 364818 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing? < 1321932557 99884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :typing a reply to kallisti on irc < 1321932567 773955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitting enter < 1321932573 606660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :typing another line and hitting enter again < 1321932574 300296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1321932599 310880 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what are you doing in the more long-term interpretation that most people would interpret. < 1321932614 415218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dying, very slowly < 1321932624 151800 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... < 1321932625 309090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want a helpful answer < 1321932629 394476 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :progressive present tense < 1321932633 683189 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ongoing actions < 1321932636 788830 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the present < 1321932641 617001 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :aside from dying < 1321932666 406926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very little < 1321932672 393202 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I WILL NOT GIVE UP UNTIL YOU ANSWER NORMALLy -- oh okay < 1321932674 955736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am idly ``surfing the net'' while idly ``waiting for someone tos ay something interesting'' < 1321932681 135084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tosa y < 1321932685 32116 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey me too! < 1321932687 687783 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact < 1321932692 619800 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only did I look at that xkcd map thing < 1321932695 886641 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I went to xkcdsucks < 1321932697 573303 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably < 1321932700 374790 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the biggest waste of time ever. < 1321932722 239291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcdsucks got so crappy < 1321932728 991532 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was always that way < 1321932734 148933 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I wasn't there for the Golden Age. < 1321932737 976506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be a bit less so < 1321932766 137301 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: one thing you can say: they are very persistent. < 1321932776 41408 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :dedicated to the job. < 1321932785 990242 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :of critisizing xkcd however horribly. < 1321932798 853912 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i was going to warn people that this is actually a brand-new comic that just visually resembles the last comic a lot, but then i figured, huh, PROBABLY my readers are used to that by now" --Dinosaur Comics caption < 1321932814 97769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: actually a different guy writes it nowadays. < 1321932816 29814 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he's annoying) < 1321932822 190444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even more annoying than the last guy) < 1321932829 238607 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought there were multiple writers. < 1321932834 272386 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :are < 1321932840 694598 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1321932841 256614 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1321932843 352725 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :are < 1321932844 210488 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :were < 1321932845 549920 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :help english < 1321932847 467302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were guest posts. dunno how frequent they are nowadays < 1321932852 162381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i don't: read it < 1321932853 506597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^stylr < 1321932854 243155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1321932855 25167 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz* sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1321932859 779541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: exposit < 1321932860 359394 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have i, perhaps, a hint, utahraptor! < 1321932863 20559 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wow amazing < 1321932864 250762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you? < 1321932864 969320 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a " pg-13" picto-story < 1321932869 959061 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the best rating for a picto-story! < 1321932875 666120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? < 1321932876 450230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi < 1321932878 626727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: TALK TO FUNGOT < 1321932880 260437 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: CONTINUATION < 1321932880 493804 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: as a man concerned, t-rex, that going shopping was your default activity?' then tony and louisa q were two people in love! romantic love, but there's a rude jerk, and then they both said the next few days were going to me, the omniscient. the dude has to sleep! superman could laser him from orbit while he's having nappy times! enter only if you have a valid passport to dreamland!" < 1321932905 642253 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ZYGOHISTOMORPHIC PREPROMORPHISM < 1321932905 749195 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: here, i'll prove it, too, will take what i can get a little of that back with them, dromiceiomimus for a perfectly awesome introductory phrase that is forbidden to me unless i had married at that age myself...hmm... < 1321932907 767398 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this style is the best. < 1321932916 20811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1321932919 307729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those hidden phrases < 1321932923 493438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only attainable by self-marriage < 1321932954 295598 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is qwantz < 1321932993 211972 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, my intuition says that in "at that age myself" "myself" cannot be an ordinary object < 1321933062 829268 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, kallisti is CakeProphet. < 1321933066 358688 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is disappointed.
< 1321933067 146699 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1321933070 905280 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321933072 305741 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we had some new blood. < 1321933081 840395 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: YOU ARE DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE IT IS ME???? < 1321933086 560496 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cries
< 1321933114 35246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: http://qwantz.com/ < 1321933126 198083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style qwantz < 1321933126 769538 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: qwantz (Dinosaur Comics transcriptions 2003-2011) < 1321933128 880180 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1321933160 181730 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Gimme some double exclamation marks!! < 1321933160 276135 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: are you a person who uses phrases at incorrect times? but then what's more likely: that we're the only ones for cows would say, hello t-rex, what is the deal" < 1321933163 322121 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Gimme some double exclamation marks!! < 1321933163 462379 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you all suck! friends again at breakfast, you, t-rex. i'll bring some vegetables and i'll show you! < 1321933165 243754 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Gimme some double exclamation marks!! < 1321933165 345438 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you must have had crazy dreams last night and hey, look, this was their word of the day last week, i will now share this secret. this is one secret, no more! < 1321933168 178015 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useless. < 1321933173 787697 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dinosaur comics are boring. < 1321933197 443847 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ xzgrep -c '!' qwantz.xz < 1321933197 535008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13503 < 1321933197 621394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ xzgrep -c '!!' qwantz.xz < 1321933197 666747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :866 < 1321933205 279750 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Dinosaur Comics also feature double exclamation marks only infrequently! < 1321933208 246370 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn kallisti is a former prophet swearing off his pastry deity < 1321933210 861365 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1321933215 663748 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Wait, really? < 1321933224 338529 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, right, it's just single exclamation marks. < 1321933225 870455 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or triple? < 1321933228 259944 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember. < 1321933232 467971 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That pattern matches triple, too. < 1321933276 399845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You heard it here first: Only 6.41% of Dinosaur Comics lines with an exclamation mark feature more than one exclamation mark in a row. < 1321933341 893999 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1321933364 114806 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dinosaur comics r stil dum lol < 1321933384 461103 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: where is a website i can upload a small binary file without using flash? < 1321933401 758533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is flash relevant < 1321933415 896835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: almost as dumb as you (are for not liking (dinosaur comics)) < 1321933420 839206 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :flash upload is broken on android < 1321933465 823474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: how small are we talking? < 1321933482 892632 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh less than a gig. not sure exactly. < 1321933490 498952 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: try sprung < 1321933491 816300 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1321933499 827142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: less than a gig? < 1321933503 715186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :small is < 5 megs < 1321933505 932541 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme get exact < 1321933525 792486 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :69.5 < 1321933526 772598 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :M < 1321933532 856232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so not small. < 1321933538 941885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think small is less than 100M < 1321933542 851482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're wrong < 1321933545 487155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, filebin would have worked < 1321933548 293894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it limited to 50 megabytes < 1321933548 533884 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :since capacitites and speeds have gone up < 1321933552 236143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: dropbox? < 1321933553 506074 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I heard you're in Northumberland. < 1321933569 263196 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Nah, Land's End. Also that place at the top of Scotland? < 1321933571 853568 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :England is a torus. < 1321933574 124412 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1321933575 206224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Britain. < 1321933592 330491 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what these words are. < 1321933596 501492 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What place at the top of Scotland? < 1321933674 264282 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Land's End is totally not Northumberland! Which one is you? < 1321933688 103518 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dropbox is an application, not a website. can visit website. cannot install application. < 1321933696 685698 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: cool! you're wrong. < 1321933717 601857 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a upload link on their website that i'm missing? < 1321933720 751242 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just checked < 1321933721 836728 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your phone can't run rsync? < 1321933725 266133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you make an account first? < 1321933731 850898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a fancy "log in" link. < 1321933737 125192 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew registration < 1321933756 371414 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man I gotta upload this relatively big file and it's important enough to ask on irc for ~5 minutes but a username, password and email?? < 1321933757 545816 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO FAR. < 1321933784 365202 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: actually wait < 1321933787 269550 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should let me invite you < 1321933792 181435 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that I can increase my cap < 1321933793 539913 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1321933804 40044 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dropbox is evil. < 1321933826 483540 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh they do have a basic uploader < 1321933829 542602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Are we talking, like, Cthulhu evil? < 1321933831 617831 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they also crash browser < 1321933832 905630 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1321933833 199441 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is at a fierce 4.9 GBs thanks to invites.
< 1321933865 639426 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, wait! < 1321933870 87141 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could invite all of my other emails. < 1321933871 119265 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Like, read :: Read a => String -> a evil. < 1321933884 771782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: read isn't /that/ evil. < 1321933888 158906 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1321933890 859402 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1321933893 832699 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :dropbox crashes browser < 1321933895 738826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I did that. < 1321933896 843393 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :other sggests? < 1321933897 188729 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'a i'a dropbox < 1321933900 521036 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what's your email? < 1321933901 779330 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what? < 1321933903 190244 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1321933903 802756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: It doesn't take effect until the other email invites, IIRC. < 1321933904 11195 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1321933909 182680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's a real pain. < 1321933913 974220 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: TOTALLY WORTH IT < 1321933914 726305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did it anyway though, 'cuz I was bored. < 1321933919 795641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't use dropbox.
< 1321933923 429929 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know why < 1321933926 642453 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: read isn't as evil as Dropbox? < 1321933927 878157 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree. < 1321933934 965816 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I basically use my Public folder to link people screenshots and other random stuff < 1321933938 407726 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dropbox does GPL violations and all sorts of things. < 1321933941 227151 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's true. < 1321933942 493279 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and occasionally LEGALLY SHARE NON-COPYRIGHT MATERIAL < 1321933955 470228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Hmm, got a link? < 1321933960 361525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goggles dropbox gpl.
< 1321933969 409400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees nothing about violations.
< 1321933975 965005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION adds "violations".
< 1321933993 131282 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321933994 193948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION only finds http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2011/02/msg00367.html without context.
< 1321934001 205379 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what if there was some horrible irc client plugin that sent a message about every google query you made. < 1321934004 491275 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeViolateCopyright :: DropBox -> a < 1321934014 409231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I wouldn't install it. < 1321934032 46736 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it were mandatory as part of the IRC protocol? < 1321934034 341780 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMAGINE THAT UNIVERSE < 1321934063 538064 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: there's probably an mirc plugin for that < 1321934067 725528 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-232-132.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1321934069 559348 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321934080 255563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: hot goats in sweaters
< 1321934085 850261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: hot goats in sweaters 2
< 1321934092 594325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: lukewarm goats in sweaters???
< 1321934097 81459 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: goats. just goats. work with me here
< 1321934105 572645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: what is the species name for goat
< 1321934112 875678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: capras. any capras!
< 1321934113 425800 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :capra something < 1321934120 601927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: capra aegagagrus hircus
< 1321934122 743121 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: wow fuck you
< 1321934128 275008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to uninstall irc
< 1321934131 569268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to uninstall irc google
< 1321934138 881928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: this is so embarrassing
< 1321934156 571011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: goat porn
< 1321934159 845559 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to ban elliott
< 1321934167 850752 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: bing
< 1321934171 595964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: yahoo search
< 1321934174 382812 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: fungus applications
< 1321934182 473442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION binged for: does bing send irc messages
< 1321934190 621556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION yahooed for: does yahoo send irc messages
< 1321934199 189943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION altavistaed for: google alternatives
< 1321934224 361129 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: XNA
< 1321934233 279066 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: skyrim muffle
< 1321934241 820320 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: naked atheists on bikes
< 1321934252 117566 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: isaac asimov secret furry
< 1321934261 993974 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: irc cakeprophet
< 1321934263 429162 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god. < 1321934267 496867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: evidence for/against goat theory
< 1321934272 178687 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: pro/cons of goat theory
< 1321934285 269741 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: psychiatrists near Jasper, GA
< 1321934291 779908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: did isaac asimov have a deviantart
< 1321934315 434283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: cake prophecies
< 1321934315 501269 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: goats in government
< 1321934328 538255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: are goats people
< 1321934336 319206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: ...can goats give consent
< 1321934352 302579 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: ghetto stories
< 1321934358 402214 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: Egypt revolution
< 1321934364 231710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to avoid being seen on a farm
< 1321934367 399309 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1321934379 623006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to remove lines from irc log
< 1321934385 351165 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: why jasper, ga? < 1321934389 367265 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: percentage of server programming jobs to desktop application jobs fuckhow d I word this.
< 1321934393 451359 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: because that's where I live < 1321934406 191985 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. i'm not far from there atm < 1321934413 929704 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh? whereabouts? < 1321934417 960669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: are goats real
< 1321934430 796705 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: bestiality in northumberland
< 1321934431 200442 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am camped out behind blood mountain in slaughter gap atm < 1321934433 727096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: goat python developers
< 1321934438 478535 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: whut < 1321934453 342375 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: why you should learn linux
< 1321934461 771422 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: @ download
< 1321934467 493762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: "@ download" FUCK YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT
< 1321934468 955577 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm pretty sure you're just making shit up. < 1321934492 41560 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321934495 131426 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1321934495 948932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: "kallisti" prophet or hoax
< 1321934499 947515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: "kallisti" cakes
< 1321934504 329625 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: define:syzygy
< 1321934514 682225 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1321934527 906823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: what do i do if a lawyer calls me on the telephone and talks in a spooky voice but then i realise im not holding my telephone and i get teleported to hell??
< 1321934544 612785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: is toe-plucking fatal
< 1321934555 194144 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: between suches and blairsville i guess < 1321934565 690206 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: help what do I do if I'm bleeding
< 1321934570 343388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: is toe-plucking REALLY fatal
< 1321934576 85556 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT NO 911 INFORMATION ON GOOGLE -files suit < 1321934583 93466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: toe-plucking therapists
< 1321934584 250756 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I've heard of the latter < 1321934588 457870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to stop plucking toes
< 1321934598 608551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: like nicotine patches but for toes? so that you don't pluck them
< 1321934599 703349 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think Google supports @-substitution. < 1321934612 919644 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: suches ga
< 1321934616 79045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: blackmarket used toes
< 1321934620 876251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: blackmarket used toes (clean or dirty)
< 1321934623 793249 :Nisstyre!~yours@infocalypse-net.info QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321934637 157394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to usurp oerjan site:wikihow.com
< 1321934645 119527 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not incredibly far no. < 1321934659 305786 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: goat "Directory index" inurl:.avi
< 1321934661 656970 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: how to /ignore in irc
< 1321934681 787873 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I could drive to suches in 23 minutes < 1321934687 175098 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to explain to shachaf that this is at most half as annoying as I usually am
< 1321934692 215224 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: should one stop biting fingers when seeing bone
< 1321934692 605161 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably more like 15 minutes. < 1321934712 165143 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could walk to suches in a day < 1321934722 85990 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suches life < 1321934725 489825 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1321934726 706122 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: should one stop biting fingers when there's only your lips left and you're bleeding so much
< 1321934730 636571 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yeah how do you even pronounce suches < 1321934765 485760 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: elliott
< 1321934768 555767 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: elliott hird
< 1321934770 565436 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: what is the emergency number for my area
< 1321934777 937893 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: northumberland map
< 1321934779 603031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: In the dictionary? < 1321934789 170583 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: northumberland people search
< 1321934793 610094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Northumberland map, n. see "unchartered territory" < 1321934809 172208 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: surgical bone saw
< 1321934816 819499 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: surgical scalpel
< 1321934821 562001 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: land's end detectives for hire
< 1321934825 4965 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: surgical tool kit sales
< 1321934840 323685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That sounds like a really good TV show premise. < 1321934846 742636 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: battery powered bone drill
< 1321934848 247034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE SOLVES CASES... WHERE NO OTHER DETECTIVE DARES < 1321934853 223168 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: soldering iron
< 1321934860 603457 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to cauterize wounds
< 1321934861 861633 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: diy transplantations
< 1321934867 278813 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: how to lure 16 year olds
< 1321934872 380772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to avoid calculated torture/murder by prophet
< 1321934873 737692 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: elliott hird true age
< 1321934884 540632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: artificial aging strategies
< 1321934886 27006 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to clamp arteries with a hemostat
< 1321934888 594059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: artificial aging pills cheap
< 1321934895 795404 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: arteries in the upper arm
< 1321934904 5192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to remove arteries (safe method)
< 1321934906 481400 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: arteries in the upper leg
< 1321934927 907958 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: 100 cc syringe
< 1321934944 287437 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to get veterinary certification
< 1321934946 882321 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: why do people use brand names
< 1321934951 430217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to disguise horse as you
< 1321934958 529732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to become horse
< 1321934958 939476 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: soviet russia
< 1321934961 446283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: are horses immortal
< 1321934966 699492 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1321934969 16291 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to acquire tranquilizer
< 1321934969 671798 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: horses vs goats
< 1321934980 337486 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: kidneys for sale
< 1321934989 255054 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: horse-goat hybrid
< 1321934997 420385 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to blackmail copumpkin
< 1321935000 792573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: are horses immoral
< 1321935011 123270 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to become a centaur
< 1321935027 170919 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: nerves in neck of horse
< 1321935030 130188 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: used organs "NON-FUNCTIONING" site:ebay.co.uk
< 1321935038 239731 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: nerves in human midsection
< 1321935045 482808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: can childhood dreams survive beyond death
< 1321935055 921370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: cryonics zimbabwe
< 1321935057 692042 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked down
< 1321935058 921266 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to make elliott, kallisti, and shachaf shut the fuck up
< 1321935065 998054 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin++ < 1321935073 553833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: is it okay if oerjan does it too
< 1321935084 711521 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googles for: why don't #haskellers have humor
< 1321935084 973963 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's have some old-fashioned esolanging in here now. < 1321935085 19372 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to communicate passive aggressive indirectly through mock google search queries
< 1321935086 329844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: oerjan moral yardstick goat
< 1321935094 427508 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome copumpkin < 1321935097 128266 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1321935104 131079 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: "international hub" espionage?
< 1321935117 579098 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: worst esolang
< 1321935118 14828 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: kick me, this must end before it gets boring < 1321935118 313949 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: why can't oerjan see that that was a haskeller's attempt at humor
< 1321935125 528861 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: goat esolang
< 1321935128 994707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : It never wasn't! < 1321935132 851183 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: centaurs and esolangs
< 1321935133 318052 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is done.
< 1321935135 322769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to fake quotes convincingly
< 1321935140 929590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: fake beard
< 1321935142 285434 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: the human skewer
< 1321935144 768067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: does shachaf have a beard
< 1321935150 210778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: shachaf's beard (used) site:ebay.co.uk
< 1321935158 819555 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: effective means of incapacitating humans
< 1321935164 605811 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/!\ < 1321935166 834948 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: john grows tired of his left nipple
< 1321935168 715601 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that. < 1321935172 708272 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: best esolang kim jong-il
< 1321935178 950405 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: david slowed slightly as his ears
< 1321935185 830784 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to rofl via google queries
< 1321935197 117108 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: intelligent calcium black market
< 1321935203 329915 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: why do some people pronounce query in a completely retarded way.
< 1321935221 762146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to become a chicken site:interpol.int
< 1321935229 76337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: nasa cosplay
< 1321935245 175270 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: C clamp for restraining large animals
< 1321935245 393800 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to #-blah. < 1321935254 13824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-blah is the best. < 1321935259 892904 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a thing? < 1321935263 442876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: kick me and kallisti and end this now < 1321935276 774590 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's just Sgeo < 1321935277 726392 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric === fix (++ "-blah") < 1321935284 718225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: sgeo is in there? < 1321935285 694626 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? < 1321935290 758774 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :only person < 1321935296 894622 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You need p-adic strings for that. < 1321935313 623371 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I have is q-adic strings. < 1321935318 32100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: It's ostensibly for botspam. < 1321935322 456655 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: But usually we just do that in here. < 1321935328 114983 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: am I robot?
< 1321935333 859113 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: So Cale might be going to Hac Boston. < 1321935334 528320 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I only went in there when it was mentioned in here < 1321935338 922640 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh nice < 1321935339 842202 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When do I get my kickback? < 1321935343 492295 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is a creepy lurker. < 1321935343 818799 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bug him to sign up soon < 1321935347 878971 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause ed's list is full < 1321935352 716922 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: He would still need to get a passport. < 1321935359 593831 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I might be going or not and I'm not sure yet. < 1321935365 422261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hac Boston is in Northumberland, right? < 1321935368 621286 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like Boston. < 1321935373 789456 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1321935376 982456 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you should come < 1321935383 195536 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boston-on-tyne < 1321935390 108980 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: channel takeover irc
< 1321935396 225696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: ok. northumberland is pretty small so just let me know the day before! < 1321935403 141630 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :will do < 1321935407 280620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled: directions to boston, northumberland
< 1321935414 353062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled: are minors allowed in boston
< 1321935422 217548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled: "boston tea party" biscuits?
< 1321935423 670541 :Nisstyre!~yours@infocalypse-net.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1321935425 825907 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@ppp-70-251-229-235.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321935425 871113 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@ppp-70-251-229-235.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net QUIT :Changing host < 1321935425 871247 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1321935429 71138 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled: are farts edible
< 1321935433 782669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled: boston tea party attendance
< 1321935445 708437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled: boston tea party 2011 hac boston
< 1321935461 338734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled: turkey surfing
< 1321935463 395610 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: They only have cookies. No biscuits. < 1321935466 634604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled: cyprus surfing
< 1321935471 367763 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: surgery metaphor esoteric language
< 1321935480 125431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have to google the weirder ones to make sure it's not something real. "turkey surfing" isn't something real.) < 1321935500 227013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled: can eyeballs be reattached
< 1321935504 877513 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled: can eyeballs be reattached after being slept on
< 1321935515 324411 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: guiness record number of eyeballs
< 1321935537 72107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled: eyeball surfing
< 1321935551 161466 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: evidence flat earth
< 1321935565 2184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the flat earth society's forums so much < 1321935565 324465 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: anarchist convention near jasper, GA
< 1321935574 371236 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: evidence for oblong earth
< 1321935579 341769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: are anarchists people
< 1321935580 966992 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: never even considered that such a thing existed < 1321935582 538129 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's beautiful < 1321935586 92519 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be FlatEarthWiki < 1321935588 584347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: oh you're missing the fuck out!!! < 1321935589 319299 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is < 1321935593 793276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://theflatearthsociety.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page < 1321935594 193144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1321935595 402124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or isn't < 1321935599 97514 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ConspiracyWiki < 1321935605 859617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/, I especially recommend "Flat Earth Debate", "Flat Earth Believers" section < 1321935611 616057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :latter is the best because, they verify people before letting them in < 1321935612 395124 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: flat earth anarchist revolution
< 1321935617 864503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :last posted topic < 1321935619 978427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Four Humours" < 1321935622 771442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two down from that < 1321935625 6470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Prayer Facing East" < 1321935628 831509 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, surely no one on that forum is serious? < 1321935629 9324 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321935631 125860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three down from that "Results of my study" < 1321935633 110649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: HAHAHAHA! < 1321935636 383512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you betcha < 1321935640 410999 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321935658 345878 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I walked several thousand miles, and didn't notice any curvature. what's up with that?" < 1321935659 959588 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321935669 932433 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I mean, it's arguably a beautiful way to get people to think about the difference between evidence and proof, etc. < 1321935676 374039 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321935679 884858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no its... you dont understand < 1321935685 215549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are literally flat earth believers on there < 1321935686 687092 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1321935691 240597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are thousands of pages of debate < 1321935693 873008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAQs < 1321935698 245825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing < 1321935709 225071 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321935728 661484 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the debates necessarily imply anything < 1321935754 352050 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I suggest spending a day reading the believers and debate forum < 1321935774 579202 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321935774 676690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is up to you to decide whether anyone can really be that backwards, insane and committed, or that completely stubborn, respectively < 1321935774 833856 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321935796 45744 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it took me a few weeks of reading the forum to be convinced that people actually believe it :P < 1321935798 833796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually a real society btw < 1321935805 48353 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society < 1321935816 736321 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes it's certainly real, to some people at least. < 1321935824 778706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321935999 467180 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* kallisti googled for: is 2-sphere homeomorphic to infinite flat plane <-- no < 1321936012 732812 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but finite yes? < 1321936023 428144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936041 210518 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: no < 1321936044 846861 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936120 535901 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-244-80.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once looked for rule 34 of Alan Turing and Ada Lovelace < 1321936124 395127 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-244-80.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But was disappointed < 1321936124 947946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936148 924537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: I thought you found it. < 1321936154 48736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: Also, you read this place? < 1321936162 553122 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-244-80.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMETIMES < 1321936166 906003 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-244-80.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rarely nowadays < 1321936169 89497 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: what about rule 34 Ada Lovelace? < 1321936173 261835 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Esperanto newspeak" ought to at least get you some Orwell. < 1321936174 554022 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-244-80.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even that! < 1321936184 442656 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-244-80.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the portrait of Ada Lovelace is pretty saucy as it is < 1321936194 359563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936205 229607 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-244-80.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.femmescelebres.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/ada1.jpg < 1321936207 100147 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-244-80.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah < 1321936258 674502 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936267 784860 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936454 402693 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in hindsight < 1321936457 254864 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was the best idea ever. < 1321936468 652971 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936633 8596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936650 485990 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaah stupid quizes < 1321936654 188741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936660 580714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936691 457059 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have thought of my plan for continuing in D&D game. < 1321936697 537058 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936736 273931 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: would you be interested in an online pen and paper game? < 1321936737 291416 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936737 854094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936743 865978 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as in, over IRC. < 1321936750 245374 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936766 674487 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1321936782 744359 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936787 65509 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: hi im backe < 1321936791 182502 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: haskel jobs??? < 1321936791 358622 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936800 336217 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no such thing. < 1321936824 624210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936829 414191 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You can has Haskell job? < 1321936831 155436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: (i then linked him to about five) < 1321936858 246401 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe when i adult i will be haskel jobs < 1321936872 347159 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: monqy: compare: http://www.phpjobs.com/ < 1321936878 384389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet those jobs are worse < 1321936881 640072 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1321936886 503883 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936892 220847 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the $6000 a month one was pretty ridiculous. < 1321936898 391338 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321936900 369348 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 6000*12 < 1321936901 59379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 72000 < 1321936910 607727 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937002 838768 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: AAAAAH < 1321937008 164316 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937018 396356 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eduard < 1321937025 593097 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937048 981944 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937060 178087 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937142 373880 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow suddenly < 1321937145 415247 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I look at google plus < 1321937148 112801 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some people are using it. < 1321937238 235397 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is google plus real?I've only heard stories... < 1321937254 666785 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937279 320283 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937290 479057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937298 961961 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should switch to the shadowrun terminology < 1321937303 903157 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937307 517502 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of "real life" we should say "meat world" < 1321937330 850674 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill kill you imw < 1321937336 954097 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "meat body" etc < 1321937341 189554 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :meat refers to the physical world. < 1321937346 987325 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to the virtual world. < 1321937381 438634 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about virtual meat < 1321937396 290469 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :meatspace is also acceptable < 1321937399 19948 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: nope < 1321937400 258586 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937445 912239 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Flesh world" < 1321937454 362528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937470 190563 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like the slang "face" which refers to a charismatic negotiator / con-man / business person < 1321937482 214929 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :shadowrun slang is good. < 1321937514 913940 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: play shadowrun with me. :( < 1321937523 589258 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`word 25 < 1321937526 199098 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mod led arat ali wasreolteki an unkyporlziigb menthoc plexpedetostecullantericr acholle gensudgiblayagen herm exiassown de buretervmitunglychelhaper ganded aldight piegiterajarly arissids piresbustoff dassamg possomicrowbed isconieric ditaway rion < 1321937543 325780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ganded aldight < 1321937546 178925 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time I have heard of shadowrun but never plays it < 1321937565 508623 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :piegiterajarly < 1321937568 10299 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/20061206051518/http://archive.dumpshock.com/CLUE/ < 1321937571 940228 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :piresbustoff < 1321937584 264339 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: dassamg! < 1321937595 51154 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :isconieric and ditaway are good < 1321937641 723876 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: what is this stuff < 1321937649 681971 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :help I can't read. < 1321937676 229346 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: would you like a source book to put in your reading pile? < 1321937685 595675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937732 919200 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937747 534528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937751 746207 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937752 526426 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you mean: israel? < 1321937761 942314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937767 682567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937780 381598 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937811 548944 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937829 120871 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937839 727839 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: @ @em forever
< 1321937857 368257 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937872 132406 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of @em < 1321937877 858316 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :nowIcantTalk < 1321937878 643877 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever I'm in a math class or CS class or whatever < 1321937883 61758 :nowIcantTalk!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1321937885 678393 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and someone says add 'em < 1321937886 738919 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: is @ vaporware or vapourware
< 1321937889 474671 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :itsokay < 1321937890 487629 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like they are saying my name < 1321937891 572968 :itsokay!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1321937923 802107 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just Adam up < 1321937926 32097 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adam together < 1321937937 456544 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :math friends < 1321937941 797633 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? you just Adam. < 1321937959 887935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937974 185836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321937990 887372 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: is elliott vapouurware
< 1321938000 642796 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/20061206051518/http://archive.dumpshock.com/CLUE/ < 1321938004 441192 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...bah < 1321938008 318397 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :copypaste fail < 1321938029 277505 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: @: fact or fiction
< 1321938035 251179 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1321938038 258928 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321938051 56956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321938074 519443 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: how many category theorists does it take to change a lightbulb
< 1321938112 900200 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake TOPIC #esoteric :The IOCCC is back on! http://www.ioccc.org | http://esolangs.org/ | #esoteric: Still a place that prefers INTERCAL to Haskell | half-add er? I ardly knew er! | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1321938121 32194 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321938121 771239 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321938128 404435 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321938131 521757 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321938138 795495 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321938147 146775 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321938157 655810 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321938159 894498 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321938171 365958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: help
< 1321938186 645058 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: help
< 1321938191 655514 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, #haskell < 1321938192 905300 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote factorybean < 1321938193 213810 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: i <3 http://static.springsource.org/spring/docs/2.5.x/api/org/springframework/aop/framework/AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean.html < 1321938195 663210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOD DAMMIT < 1321938197 692555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE YOU ALL < 1321938199 366571 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BY < 1321938200 386203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ALL < 1321938200 957419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MEAN < 1321938201 457280 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHACHAF < 1321938203 614046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU RUINED THE HELP < 1321938208 504951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WAS GOING TO GET OERJAN TO FINISH IT WITH ONE LAST HELP AND THEN < 1321938209 573319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITW OULD BE DEAD < 1321938210 257896 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT NOW < 1321938212 233633 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE SHALL BE CURSED < 1321938213 1698 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOREVER < 1321938214 305111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN OUR NIGHTGOWNS < 1321938226 464726 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote monqy < 1321938227 161179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `quote' failed with: getRandItem: empty list < 1321938237 114352 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321938239 479746 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: elliott tranquilizer
< 1321938251 417386 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake TOPIC #esoteric :The IOCCC is back on! http://www.ioccc.org | http://esolangs.org/ | #esoteric: Still a place that prefers INTERCAL to Haskell | half-add er? I ardly knew er! | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1321938255 379802 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: better < 1321938255 857192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: cursed forever in our nightgowns
< 1321938334 313856 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has been going on for two hours by the way. < 1321938356 399782 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still going through the log because I missed so much wonderful ;_; < 1321938358 569981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not long < 1321938428 46721 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: sour cereal information
< 1321938450 907297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: source real
< 1321938483 303396 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also wtf are you doing in north georgia. < 1321938502 347520 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: do you have alcohol? < 1321938506 741333 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: do you like to smoke hookah? < 1321938520 967078 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could trade. < 1321938537 790275 :pkzip!~a@109.160.202.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321938549 522550 :pkzip!~a@109.160.202.70 PART :#esoteric < 1321938561 70721 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome pkzip < 1321938563 435335 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pkzip: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1321938571 465259 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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ACTION googled for: vaporization point of DMT
< 1321938747 274987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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ACTION googled for: is vaporization point an actual thing?
< 1321938764 466919 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Yes I could possibly play the game over IRC; I might lack time however, when everyone can be properly scheduled. < 1321938777 398569 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "everyone" is currently two people. < 1321938782 867093 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them is you. < 1321938787 624241 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(^hint) < 1321938803 554452 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: And is other one is you? < 1321938808 26493 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEP < 1321938832 745045 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've gotten cursory interest from a number of people but no one is actually willing to learn anything about a game system. < 1321938855 676873 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why you want die < 1321938890 209610 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible to play with only one referee and one player, although is better more than one player. I play 3.5 edition and in many unusual ways. Read the recording that I typed of the games I played for some information in case you are interested in it. < 1321938921 522437 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@die 10d6 < 1321938921 657164 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :10d6 => 38 < 1321938932 639882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to not die
< 1321938937 567478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: KICK AND BAN ME AND KALLISTI < 1321938955 980711 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: suicide rates on irc channels
< 1321938970 342111 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that wouldn't quite suffice for Shadowrun < 1321938973 408739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: kick me and ban kallisti
< 1321938973 648604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: kick me and ban kallisti
< 1321938973 887823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: kick me and ban kallisti
< 1321938974 72613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: kick me and ban kallisti
< 1321938974 268403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: kick me and ban kallisti
< 1321938974 483542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: kick me and ban kallisti
< 1321938976 125375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: kick me and ban kallisti
< 1321938978 144706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: kick me and ban kallisti
< 1321938978 830799 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: help
< 1321938980 126040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1321938982 293933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: kick me and kallisti at least
< 1321938985 45085 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Part the channel and ignore kallisti. < 1321938986 561827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: not shachaf he is innocent
< 1321938987 43553 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: however, I have an existing bot with dice rollers < 1321938993 312639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how do i ignore kallisti < 1321939011 401356 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Part the channel and that will work since you are not on the channel they are, then. < 1321939027 41454 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how zzo38 assumes that elliott wants to ignore us. < 1321939029 652822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kallisti is in other channel too < 1321939039 409749 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, update < 1321939039 897075 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for: how to kick other channel
< 1321939063 780566 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What's the other channel? < 1321939070 706760 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I also have written IRC bot with dice rollers. In addition, some IRC networks have a GS command to roll dice and optionally send the result to channel. My own IRC server has a channel for RPG game session, specifically. < 1321939093 665669 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: cool. my dice rollers work for specific systems to make some things more convenient. < 1321939096 880317 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think #haskell??? < 1321939099 996447 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, currently there's only one. < 1321939105 84755 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for World of Darkness d10 rules. < 1321939115 889096 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's insanely simple. shadowrun is a bit more complicated. < 1321939125 597266 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not anymore < 1321939133 469545 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well join it then. < 1321939134 159496 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like Icosahedral RPG, however I have not yet finished writing the rules, so that cannot be played. < 1321939140 532112 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait why? < 1321939160 824168 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is recording of my current D&D game: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/recording/level20.tex http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/recording/level20.dvi < 1321939178 843022 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The macro file is also available in the same directory; I wrote it specifically for purpose of recording D&D game 3.5 edition. < 1321939207 819847 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not yet finished recording the last session, but I will do so. < 1321939208 652010 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321939283 78701 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's the purpose of me joining this other channel < 1321939289 671200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that i have to ignore you < 1321939296 314000 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1321939306 376521 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not understand < 1321939316 328029 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is macro file of recording D&D game: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/recording/dungeonsrecording.tex < 1321939404 48448 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what does me being in two channels have to do with ignoring me? < 1321939417 882022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: Part the channel and that will work since you are not on the channel they are, then. < 1321939438 331436 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I thought the purpose of the kick was to prevent us from further googling. < 1321939479 242853 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1321939488 367591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 told me to /part and ignore you instead < 1321939558 961134 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://smileytext.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/129.jpg < 1321939561 823686 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is easily amused
< 1321939573 456454 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Your IRC client might have other ignore function too; you could use that instead. < 1321939587 732904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I thought I should set mode +G or something ?? < 1321939589 245010 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I have a filter function (although I rarely use it) < 1321939602 860218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's the worst comic i've ever seen < 1321939618 932321 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, go read Station V3, then come back to me < 1321939619 671368 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usermode +G? There is no such thing. Use +D if you want to ignore channel messages and +g to ignore private messages. < 1321939628 911818 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why it's still on my RSS reader < 1321939630 367705 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: do i really want to < 1321939644 757208 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twittch is also rather lame < 1321939655 704589 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.stationv3.com/d/20111120.html hilarious < 1321939670 712921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://twittch.com/ hilarious < 1321939680 913341 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://twittch.com/60/ ha ha ha < 1321939701 844968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://twittch.com/57/ ha ha ha < 1321939780 263453 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1321939795 491796 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wow... < 1321939796 559829 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are < 1321939798 959804 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1321939808 407843 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :rivalling SBAHJ < 1321940124 565196 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it gets even worse http://twittch.com/24/ < 1321940129 684166 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the author is a Ruby person < 1321940137 824596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1321940141 318627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why did you ever start reading this < 1321940148 492089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://twittch.com/23/ < 1321940161 546603 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1321940204 459884 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I saw one of the comics in some presentation < 1321940441 449019 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an iOS app for this thing < 1321940442 60778 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY < 1321940456 816647 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MSleep < 1321940511 361493 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://twittch.com/36/ < 1321940514 712439 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have accused my character to commit crimes: * Unauthorized entry into a debtor prison * Breaking and entering * Allowing prisoners to escape * Injuring the guards. However it is only the first one which I have commited, not the others. < 1321940514 821859 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you explain this one? < 1321940527 197956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: nope < 1321940588 111920 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tup's site got uglier :( < 1321940588 193984 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1321940618 233506 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi do you like pen and paper RPGs? < 1321940634 395233 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what about you? < 1321940634 681014 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: alternate universe, that's " law and order". and it doesn't have to be shakespeare. < 1321940638 396111 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot would be the best player. < 1321940638 441747 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: people have worried! the fact, you were like, " hey, i wonder if i talk to about one in then people who know so many awesome things that i'm like, " all the money that was ever mean to you in a way that i could come < 1321940646 931228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: no < 1321940686 100497 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you smell bad < 1321940695 599160 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer RPG games are not real role playing games. Text adventure games come close. But not really. < 1321940725 267425 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I would argue that some computer RPGs are similar to roleplaying < 1321940731 973530 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if an element of choice is given. < 1321940740 460481 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it's not the same I agree. < 1321940793 182493 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm highly interested in create a hard science fiction setting and system for tabletop RPGs. < 1321940854 696923 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically centered around our solar system and nearby systems. < 1321940863 955587 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :without any expedient means of FTL travel. < 1321940911 562451 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat in the genre of "space western" I guess. < 1321940922 797495 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also interested making a system for role playing game; it is called Icosahedral RPG, and is incomplete. It is for pencil and paper. Mana are mathematical, and other magical things can also use mathematics such as category theory and whatever; it can form a category. Fighter are designed powerful class for combat; ... < 1321940945 473315 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... okay. < 1321940948 906252 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... spellcaster is generally for noncombat. Assumed all creature suitable for player character; pseudolevels can balance them. There are other unique features too. < 1321940960 880997 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The idea of "computer RPGs", of course, comes about due to *mechanics*. < 1321940976 219968 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is incredibly easy to see the mechanical similarities. < 1321940991 332437 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: storytelling etc etc < 1321941032 75904 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, this *does* omit approx. half the fun of RPGs: the interactivity. You're not merely helping the story take place, you are one of the authors of the story. < 1321941036 879580 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I agree to that. And I can understand why the term "RPG" used. However, it is not a role playing game and the abbreviation should be used when refering to "Computer RPG". Text adventure games are closer, in my opinion. < 1321941055 967740 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still not quite. < 1321941087 127540 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I tend to go with "JRPG" and "Western RPG", personally. < 1321941097 47886 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as there are certainly two distinct groups of computer RPGs) < 1321941104 49157 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :demon's souls: best RPG < 1321941106 276801 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I've ever played < 1321941110 139952 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: You can use those terms if you prefer; yes it can help to distinguish them. < 1321941118 711473 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION awaits an opportunity to play Dark Souls.
< 1321941140 168927 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "pen & paper RPG" if I need to be unambiguous about the traditional sort. < 1321941158 940129 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And if I would be referee in a role playing game over IRC, I would permit some common abbreviations used in text adventure games) < 1321941201 28763 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think we are probably accustomed to two different styles of gameplay based on your recordings < 1321941222 523546 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: You might be correct; I do play very unusually. < 1321941250 255178 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are probably correct. < 1321941263 787928 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's mostly that I'm accustomed to a more theatrical style of roleplaying. D&D games I've noticed tend to not have this attribute < 1321941330 278585 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D&D in particular does tend to get focused on mechanics a lot. < 1321941348 612160 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably just because there's a lot of mechanics there to play with. < 1321941349 600935 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even that, entirely. that's part of it. < 1321941384 857186 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure there's storytelling and infinite possibilities and all that, but it's all kind... absurd. < 1321941387 927324 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not very immersive. < 1321941397 436406 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it's fun though. < 1321941416 886060 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, note my recordings; even many things not completely by mechanics; there is many story oriented things. < 1321941428 935199 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the same way that skyrim is fun, even, except moreso because you create your own quests and challenges, basically. < 1321941432 286173 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But game mechanics are used for combat and spellcasting of course. < 1321941445 828644 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, D&D shapes a particular, almost quaint, sort of setting. < 1321941480 886468 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost a bit like Final Fantasy's extensive use of its various set pieces, really. < 1321941490 555050 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: tabletop games tend to be quite different when you're in present day settings, or settings based on the real world. < 1321941498 550732 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :shadowrun is a kind of hybrid of the two. cyberpunk setting with fantasy elements. < 1321941515 293525 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way I play is different in many ways howveer. Read my recording please. < 1321941518 231596 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty fond of urban fantasy, myself. < 1321941527 140137 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: shadowrun < 1321941539 564903 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/howveer/however/ < 1321941616 141060 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t count < 1321941616 982021 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `count' < 1321941739 878741 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl for (map {int rand 7} (1..4)) { $i++ if ($_ > 4) } print $i < 1321941749 53090 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1321941793 715722 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl for (1..4) { $i++ if (int(rand(7)) > 4) } print $i < 1321941794 132182 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1321941796 259705 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl for (1..4) { $i++ if (int(rand(7)) > 4) } print $i < 1321941804 857433 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl for (1..4) { $i++ if (int(rand(7)) > 3) } print $i < 1321941805 262250 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1321941820 436274 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a simplified version of what shadowrun rolls look like. < 1321941843 763156 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :here the dice pool is 4, and target number is 4 (and then 3) < 1321941846 405919 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you roll d6 < 1321941914 715540 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :World of Darkness is similar but with d10 < 1321941936 605776 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like WoDs system actually. effective but not incredibly dense. < 1321942012 212462 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have attributes (split into physical, mental and social), you have abilities (split into talents, skills, and knowledges), and you combine one of each to make an action against a difficulty (target number) < 1321942039 276357 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also once played anime role playing game at anime convention. < 1321942044 52403 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for example Dexterity+Firearms difficulty 6 would be a standard "shoot this person" action. < 1321942142 875468 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course the difficulty varied based on range, visibility, mental state, wound penalties and other conditions that might be applicable. < 1321942230 354897 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tabletop RPGs have too much mechanics; computer RPGs are too mechanical < 1321942239 711492 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet doesn't like fun, I think. < 1321942250 399660 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game mechanics do not have to be used all the time!! < 1321942275 408218 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: also in other cases the game mechanics become very intuitive once you get the hang of them. < 1321942289 795283 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and really only the game master has to know them well. < 1321942301 977663 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideally, a computer should be doing the mechanics and a person should be doing everything else, but computer interfaces suck < 1321942324 242362 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really not a problem if you have a sane, easy to understand system. < 1321942384 361154 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: actually I think you would enjoy Mage. < 1321942390 691696 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a WoD system) < 1321942401 6944 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "WoD" means? < 1321942405 411982 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :world of darkness. < 1321942445 49900 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1321942458 507847 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1321942463 550428 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the premise: you play in a modern day (or historical, or sci-fi if you want) setting, with the only difference being that supernatural beings exist and have kept their presence unknown by society. < 1321942475 400950 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: which game is that? < 1321942481 822162 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:13 < kallisti> world of darkness. < 1321942482 850969 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1321942484 711102 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1321942494 445265 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: come on I just woke up, and I'm not good at mornings < 1321942498 923431 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worries. < 1321942512 825393 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I'm absolutely terrible at early mornings < 1321942516 816292 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:14 here < 1321942528 584180 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, once you actually play the game it becomes increasingly obvious that there is probably no way you could keep such a thing secret from the entire world. < 1321942531 771689 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially in the modern age. < 1321942569 797558 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, it's a fun premise. < 1321942574 742134 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321942580 955197 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: computer game? < 1321942587 474623 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tabletop rpg < 1321942589 618298 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no tabletop / pen and paper < 1321942599 615433 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though some computer games exist < 1321942600 599558 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're bad. < 1321942606 670862 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1321942643 36864 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but anyway what's cool about Mage is that there aren't any set lists of spells that you learn. < 1321942663 998504 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1321942671 454664 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead you have nine spheres that represent some aspect of reality, and knowledge in those spheres allows you to control that aspect. spels can include combinations of spheres as well. < 1321942680 456147 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm tabletop rpg with magicka style magic might be fun... < 1321942691 921863 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's similar. < 1321942695 110754 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1321942696 346423 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more endless. < 1321942699 464214 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1321942702 252825 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is impressive < 1321942716 88111 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely my favorite from WoD < 1321942722 281286 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of the game system itself. < 1321942728 149155 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321942751 714177 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which: you get more out of magicka if you know Swedish < 1321942765 55119 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :the voiced dialogue is a mix of Swedish, English and some made up stuff < 1321942774 104740 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the interpretation of spheres is leenient based on what sort of magical tradition you follow. so basically, there's like "mad scientist" mages as well as your traditional Hermetic order kind of mage. < 1321942775 264099 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and often doesn't match the written dialogue in meaning < 1321942810 623120 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :like calling townsfolk "fjantar", which would loosely translate to "sillies" < 1321942819 381936 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: you said you played Magicka right? < 1321942821 345911 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mad scientist interpretation of the sphere of Matter for example could involve things like transmuting chemical elements and the like. < 1321942824 261380 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes < 1321942834 646214 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody hard game too < 1321942838 106382 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :noep < 1321942842 107871 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1321942843 141170 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1321942846 376503 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :high learning curve < 1321942852 317273 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then once you've learned it it's incredibly easy actually. < 1321942856 253350 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't get very far in it. Don't have the required skill at high speed < 1321942869 190401 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't tap out qwwedasdasd or whatever it is at high speed < 1321942873 693909 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321942887 488605 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that was random key presses) < 1321942895 988835 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: try a few edddd's beforehand, or edfffs or efrrrs to give you some time. < 1321942921 851515 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I mostly played it single player, don't really have anyone to play against. < 1321942930 137604 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically giant rock barriers, the latter two are volcanos and frost volcano thingies < 1321942952 955145 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but edddd (pure rock barrier) withstands the most damage. < 1321942961 12497 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1321942977 298524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish oerjan didn't get sick of that space metazipper thing :'( < 1321942983 89588 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiro 2 could be so good............ < 1321942985 44365 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: nah I prefer games where I have time to think and/or have quicksave. < 1321943039 274907 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I'm reasonably good at nethack for example. Due to having the time to think in it. I'm not a fast nethack player though. I ascended a few times. < 1321943041 169945 :ineiros!~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1321943064 10363 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: then qfqfasa = best beam spell qfqfass = best AoE spell dqrqrqrqr = best projectile qfsafe self-cast = immunity to most offensive elements < 1321943068 929722 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to Break Magicka: the Book < 1321943082 332888 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: hey I could install autohotkeys and survive magicka XD < 1321943102 717720 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could survive and then kill everything nearly instantly with no trouble. < 1321943106 989123 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in story mode. < 1321943115 53573 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :story mode is what I tried < 1321943128 680875 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the vietnam thing is a bit more difficult and annoying < 1321943128 996726 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :got to that city place, then gave up < 1321943142 668749 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite is arena because it's the most challenging but without annoying fucking automatic weapons < 1321943158 13206 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: automatic weapons proved a life saver to me so far < 1321943162 216971 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo < 1321943162 899578 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bad < 1321943165 421731 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1321943173 700562 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've watched youtube videos of people that literally do nothing but use m60 < 1321943175 270662 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so bad < 1321943210 16184 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it works, but it's also really boring and nowhere near as effective as memorizing a few awesome spells < 1321943211 984419 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: personally I'm interested in magicka because of the wacky story and the voice over. < 1321943222 361103 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's understandable < 1321943228 949386 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish it had a difficulty setting basically. < 1321943237 467097 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's honestly kind of silly to get serious into Magicka, but I.. managed to do it in the short time I played it. < 1321943263 492964 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"serious" and "magicka" do not belong in the same sentence. < 1321943268 190459 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the gameplay concept is actually quite good and fun. < 1321943285 315908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: i encourage you to play good games like aii and ec < 1321943293 172347 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what are those < 1321943302 479488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1321943302 524734 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321943310 720710 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: played bastion? Now that is a game I'm quite good at, even with the difficulty turned up (which is done by an interesting in-game-world system) < 1321943328 173839 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I have not < 1321943347 213374 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I recommend it. Truly unique experience. The dynamic voice over system is awesome. < 1321943364 420120 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you should try Magicka again it is very rewarding once you become god. < 1321943368 983237 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still continues to be challenging despite that. < 1321943396 205310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: aii is a ~space~ dogfighting game with fully newtonian movement, ragdoll-physicsy ships, and cool things like weapons that shoot bubble things that slow down time inside them, also black holes and lots of orbital transfers??? < 1321943404 72875 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: basically the narrator speaks as you go along. And inserts dynamic statements. Like might comment on your favourite set of weapons or such. < 1321943406 622187 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: holy crap < 1321943409 5418 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's like < 1321943410 741456 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it doesn't technically exist yet PH is getting off his ass with some of the prototype code :P < 1321943413 169351 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the game I wanted to make < 1321943417 798876 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.....oh < 1321943426 508482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: IT'S GOING TO BE SO GOOD THOUGH? < 1321943430 638443 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1321943431 900383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH already has a prototype of the basic physics < 1321943436 456898 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: get used to elliott talked to stuff he is planning as if it was already in existence. < 1321943436 506827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to prove oklopol wrong) < 1321943442 727202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hey ph started it < 1321943455 788595 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: get used to elliott talked to stuff he or PH is planning as if it was already in existence. < 1321943463 875688 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that should be more accurate ^ < 1321943467 58774 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: other things to consider: portals < 1321943470 611911 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :all games are made better by portals. < 1321943483 389392 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :magicka needs: portal gun < 1321943491 422004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: maybe. it's two-dimensional so i dunno if that'd work very well < 1321943498 171378 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I bet they would throw that in except Valve would go mad < 1321943499 438785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably shoulda mentioned it was 2d :P < 1321943522 254637 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there are already instances of games that have ripped off the portal mechanic except not quite as good < 1321943529 709658 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1321943531 287217 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no 2d is what I had in mind actually < 1321943532 884728 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it better < 1321943548 586564 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what I had in mind when I was devising the best space fighting game ever < 1321943560 859711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: especially since it came out of oklopol doubting that stable orbits would form in 2d :P < 1321943566 883125 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also: ships with bladed wings. < 1321943573 896068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing i'm a bit unsure about is whether the networked multiplayer will work < 1321943575 161041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1321943583 639541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like the only way this would ever be played < 1321943584 897453 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :realtime games and networking kind of don't work < 1321943588 295262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the synchronisation would be euurgh < 1321943596 983102 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why? You could do split screen surely? < 1321943607 134130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: (a) nobody has two keyboards, (b) nobody has friends < 1321943609 432941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: yeah, but otoh the newtonian physics limits it a bit? < 1321943615 335672 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321943620 220939 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: like if you're in a stable orbit you're not going to escape it in the next .5 seconds < 1321943624 763537 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a) actually I do. One of them is kind of crappy, ultraflat thingy < 1321943630 35129 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :b) true < 1321943652 190668 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Valve didn't particularly invent the idea of portal guns, did they? < 1321943652 303436 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I have friends, at university. But most of them live in a different city than me. < 1321943654 840160 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's more of a like... sync issue when you are in direct combat with another human being. < 1321943656 524930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: but yeah i dunno, latency isn't very... good < 1321943664 557545 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: well yeah < 1321943667 564200 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: who shot who first etc < 1321943679 175215 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: but like a lot of aii's mechanics involve not just being able to fly around shooting because that's boring < 1321943692 689283 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you might be able to pull it off over LAN < 1321943713 663118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: i expect a lot of it will be done by basically getting consistent but erratic orbits with an easy enough escape that you can fire off some shots at certain points without too much risk < 1321943722 453958 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel talks too much. < 1321943725 414042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like obviously the time-changing stuff makes things more complicated :P < 1321943731 880350 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well LAN realtime games are trivial < 1321943732 158097 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also what happens when you black hole all the planets < 1321943736 130675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you barely even need prediction < 1321943742 683507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: that would be bad. < 1321943746 641805 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wouldn't the act of firing a shot push you out of orbid? < 1321943748 536838 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :orbit* < 1321943759 588191 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also what about relativity? :P < 1321943763 972484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: no relativity :P < 1321943766 629491 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1321943775 182984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: they're lasers, man < 1321943777 755802 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : This channel talks too much. <-- no < 1321943782 3724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the idea would be like < 1321943785 13634 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that still pushes a bit... < 1321943789 365382 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Fine. People in this channel talk too much. < 1321943790 682996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :escaping your orbit so that you drift back into it in the next few seconds < 1321943800 12101 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: afaik you can push a mirror with a laser for example < 1321943804 643229 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much, true < 1321943806 368703 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1321943814 420651 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why is everyone idle all the time?" "why does everyone talk so much?" "baaaaaawwww" < 1321943832 102915 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: They should talk while I'm here and not while I'm gone. < 1321943844 169734 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think the inclusion of bombs would be interesting < 1321943847 239591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: also i've cunningly avoided the problem of being completely useless at art by devising the PERFECT ART AESTHETIC (for lazy people) < 1321943848 982565 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could place a bomb in an orbit < 1321943849 28246 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you should obviously adjust your schedule then < 1321943853 444146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the best at avoiding work. < 1321943863 600724 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lines? < 1321943872 2604 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascii graphics? < 1321943881 322620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: ALMOST < 1321943881 636927 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played a game called gravity well that was basically entirely composed of lines < 1321943884 794648 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :your ship was a little triangle < 1321943887 28954 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :planets were circles < 1321943900 61722 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was also a 2d space dogfighting game < 1321943904 279552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: the aesthetic is basically like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Asteroi1.png but 21ST CENTURY < 1321943910 21984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be mentioned that aii stands for Asteroids II :P < 1321943938 923347 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could claim uninhabited planets by landing on them, once you landed one of your colonies would send a colony pod to colonize it and make a base < 1321943943 573399 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would place little defensive shooter turrets < 1321943947 833897 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then slowly the base would grow in size < 1321943955 436277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: it came to me IN A VISION (actually i think i just woke up with it), it's basically layering 10 blurry parallaxy ~space nebula~ background layers on top of each other, and then all the actual game objects are slightly glowy neon vectors < 1321943955 481478 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have a little orbiting docking platform that could heal you < 1321943959 824048 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once played a game that consisted entirely of text. It was, like, crazy, man. < 1321943959 982904 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that is a different game < 1321943964 695989 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: XD < 1321943970 28047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: and like colour and faintness is used for things like reporting damage < 1321943981 663619 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah interesting < 1321943983 536598 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bureaucracy was an odd sort of game. < 1321943998 32216 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: You are now graced with my absence. < 1321943999 493791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: also there's like a faint movement trail??? and bullets (LASER SHOTS) do things like ripple the background < 1321944002 57273 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and probably very pretty looking < 1321944003 978630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, I _may_ have been hallucinating. < 1321944012 722556 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: infocom? < 1321944027 25252 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: could have been because you just woke up < 1321944029 440600 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens < 1321944041 922632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: also PH had the absolute best idea for a weapon. < 1321944045 687935 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. < 1321944046 331292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: it's the... NEUTRINO GUN < 1321944051 453797 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oshi < 1321944054 836168 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: when you fire it, a random ship within the vicinity instantly blows up < 1321944060 254113 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1321944061 591672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: you then have ten seconds to blow it up yourself < 1321944067 642722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you lose < 1321944073 777624 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321944080 413536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1321944081 791420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got it wrong :( < 1321944082 459157 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1321944084 116739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: when you fire it, a random ship within the vicinity instantly blows up < 1321944088 465060 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: you then have ten seconds to AIM the gun at it < 1321944089 883928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you explode < 1321944095 133846 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1321944100 823246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: basically the player behind the ship keeps playing for ten seconds and you have to get in range and aim it < 1321944113 270631 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: causality explosion? < 1321944123 700349 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. causality works by blowing people up if they violate it < 1321944128 22785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like in the real world < 1321944132 296396 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1321944140 85171 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah gravity well was the best thing ever. < 1321944145 269092 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my childhood < 1321944147 680102 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played it for hours < 1321944186 316072 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically everything was zero-g so you could accelerate to retarded speeds as you jet across the entire star system but then... good luck slowing down before you crash into anything < 1321944204 744939 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka newtonian :P < 1321944207 942867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well unless you could pivot < 1321944210 842136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be < 1321944211 363695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1321944214 613870 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could < 1321944218 422935 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what do you mean < 1321944226 290615 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you turn around and start going another way at high speeds < 1321944226 400156 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you could rotate your ship as it was moving < 1321944228 121902 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so to slow down < 1321944235 938058 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just rotate 180, and jet the other direction < 1321944242 937754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. not newtonian then. < 1321944244 190580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so lame. < 1321944254 766577 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...how else do you slow down? < 1321944262 321099 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, turn? < 1321944267 586128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in case you're dumb (technical term), with newtonian mechanics you'd just turn around helplessly) < 1321944272 744323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because that's how it works.....) < 1321944280 525763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: you have to fight against your velocity < 1321944286 12810 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: right that's what I meant < 1321944288 999606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321944290 934220 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't instantly change direction < 1321944310 897687 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mean you turna round and accelerate and it takes like ten minutes to get going again, then yeah < 1321944316 183015 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1321944333 664358 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also accelerate backwards at a slight angle to get like a slow u-turn sort of effect < 1321944366 587357 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be nice if you have a retardedly powerful jet that had some sort of cooldown mechanic < 1321944376 207755 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could either start off or slow down rapidly, SOMETIMES < 1321944422 568106 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also all of your colonies could get like research labs < 1321944436 156895 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that when you land on your orbiting dock bay thing < 1321944445 636195 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could get like shieds, homing rockets, etc < 1321944447 146020 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cool mechanic would be to have a magical device onboard your ship that can become like really really massive (not like your mom, like jupiter) for a short period of time but it costs a shitload of energy < 1321944455 349918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you get close to a bunch of people and turn it on and they all helplessly get pulled towards you :P < 1321944462 698535 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321944465 468703 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you spin around firing death. :( < 1321944470 952608 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a projectile could be more interesting. < 1321944476 532292 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have non-laser weapons involved < 1321944507 815221 :ineiros!~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1321944508 299250 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also non-laser weapons would be interesting in that you cold manipulate gravity to your advantage but you also have to deal with travel time. < 1321944516 726658 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :requires planning < 1321944531 444712 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well they're not like < 1321944532 980168 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :proper lasers < 1321944541 389468 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just guns but more high-tech. < 1321944542 45574 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way? < 1321944544 866983 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1321944545 220222 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1321944548 374946 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :instant travel guns? < 1321944550 368487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's still a projectile and it's still affected by gravity :P < 1321944551 826832 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that are subject to physics? < 1321944553 224083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, travel time! < 1321944556 647804 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that WOULD be cool. < 1321944556 873268 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, okay. < 1321944563 139182 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1321944564 263567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but look, if you say laser it sounds fancier. < 1321944571 495297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can handwave the fact that guns + space = ??? < 1321944571 540742 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"energy weapons" < 1321944573 694460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1321944574 382832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :phasers < 1321944578 38441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :star trek(tm) phasers < 1321944580 419007 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to account for the lack of newton's third law < 1321944586 567309 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :on your ship < 1321944605 123552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fun thing would be having a battle like right in the middle of a complicated multi-body orbit < 1321944610 482956 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what do you mean ?? < 1321944610 865101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bullets keep getting bent around < 1321944614 662632 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :guns operate fine in space actually < 1321944625 27273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: yeah but guns don't fire neon bullets? < 1321944630 500835 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes. < 1321944644 400290 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :admitedly the gravity physics in gravity well were bad < 1321944647 734658 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you just got sucked down < 1321944650 419759 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1321944652 996061 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: neon's third law for shooting might be interesting tbh < 1321944654 851650 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could orbit < 1321944660 363030 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it required like, constant careful thrusts < 1321944663 734835 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was basically impossible. < 1321944673 330459 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol neon's third law < 1321944689 371701 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes I think a variety of weapons would make for more fun. < 1321944694 412807 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily more... gameplay coherence though < 1321944696 34571 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fuck that. < 1321944704 978907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol neon's third law < 1321944717 292243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: yeah i'm not sure what the ... progression in terms of gameplay is? < 1321944723 245143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm tempted to just like give everyone every weapon from the start < 1321944740 513474 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you involved space colonies < 1321944742 136317 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's weird < 1321944746 707866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: that's getting mmorpgy < 1321944747 712977 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the whole orbity combat stuff < 1321944749 623227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shared state < 1321944753 377035 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: eh not necessarily < 1321944756 569125 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be a very simple system. < 1321944759 609825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well how would you prevent trivial cheating < 1321944760 502825 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like gravity well! < 1321944767 257101 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial cheating as in? < 1321944770 405074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i'm thinking of it as multiplayer-only < 1321944809 663882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: well how do you stop people saying they bought shit which they didn't :P < 1321944849 287390 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :um......? < 1321944863 218363 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean how do you stop people from lying? < 1321944865 179128 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsolved problem. < 1321944878 177816 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: how do i stop people's game clients from telling the other players, "yep I got super-weapon" < 1321944879 488853 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when they don't. < 1321944883 288792 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1321944888 757412 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321944911 857519 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :closed source, encrypted protocol. :P < 1321944920 545159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeaaaaaaah < 1321944947 90485 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you have a server < 1321944951 897661 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which mediates < 1321944988 706631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: right, so we need big iron which everybody has to talk to... < 1321944994 442585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which has to do ugly anti-cheating shit < 1321944998 525964 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1321945013 134753 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's otherwise most likly impossible to prevent cheating < 1321945017 200985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier just to make every match a blank slate. then the only kind of cheating is client hacking shit, and hopefully that would be visible < 1321945034 23795 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like as opposed to someone just waiting five minutes and then blowing you up with a mega super weapon that's supposed to be hard to get or whatever < 1321945035 875485 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ragequitting is an effective deterrent to cheaters. < 1321945040 162785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno *shrugs* < 1321945062 420805 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, hmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1321945076 976050 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the protocol < 1321945085 221645 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :could consist entirely of basically key input < 1321945091 295458 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and each game creates its state separately < 1321945106 897381 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then if you have any kind of visibility mechanic (like a fog of war) < 1321945109 631796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: that's rly network trafficy < 1321945110 603537 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :then client hacks could see everything. < 1321945124 689060 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah i can design a protocol < 1321945130 559199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just, eh < 1321945138 468417 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is? I figured it would be less traffic than "send everything about the gameworld all the time" < 1321945139 235569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs in-game progression when you have the progression of "people being better players" < 1321945147 411638 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, right. < 1321945155 56920 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just depends on the style of gameplay < 1321945163 569934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like Worms actually < 1321945167 491822 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way progression would be interesting from a competitive standpoint is if there are choices < 1321945170 601491 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than a linear progression < 1321945173 175152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just cause in-game, per-match events that give you powered-up weapons and utilities < 1321945176 38169 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(~ crate drops) < 1321945211 233205 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on how much chance you want to add. < 1321945218 723776 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like zero chance games. < 1321945224 88524 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(modulo latency) < 1321945251 240879 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, starcraft is completely devoid of chance. < 1321945253 744385 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is also completely awesome. < 1321945256 376652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: eh, I could make everyone get the same weapon at the same time? :P < 1321945266 672499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i am very sceptical of the implicit claim that starcraft never uses an rng in a non-deterministic way < 1321945282 895378 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well you said "cause an in-game event" basically as long as you don't randomly select the power-up then you get zero chance involved. < 1321945289 449688 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if each in-game event corresponds to a particular power-up < 1321945297 703572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you played worms? :P < 1321945303 962820 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, I'm pretty certain it doesn't < 1321945305 667860 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1321945321 148000 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: at least in the combat mechanics there is no chance. all of the numbers are fixed and don't vary. < 1321945334 490851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. the crate drops are basically, randomly (approx. every N turns or whatever), a random weapon (weighted by how powerful it is etc.) gets dropped in a crate < 1321945341 459308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which worms can then navigate to to add to the team's artillery. < 1321945349 302340 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that would work < 1321945354 930651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? that's pure chance < 1321945368 867083 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I were designing the game I would eliminate all forms of randomness, or have them turned off without seriously destroying the gameplay. < 1321945378 622848 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm a compromising sort of person. :P < 1321945392 925349 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have an option to turn them off < 1321945400 635761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, how would you do incremental weapons then :) < 1321945404 838018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :giving everyone tons of shit at the start for no reason sucks < 1321945407 237472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it could be like < 1321945410 397976 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"achievements" give you rewards < 1321945415 233737 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an option < 1321945417 454264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as... they're not called achievements < 1321945418 161507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1321945420 941446 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321945421 253199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't pop something up in the corner < 1321945422 227097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1321945424 388805 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that hurts me inside < 1321945428 586768 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321945433 914703 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they can't be stupid shit < 1321945436 176350 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's lame < 1321945437 748562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah no < 1321945440 167427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spun around for 5 hours < 1321945446 296370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no i'm adding that anyone who spins around for 5 hours is dedicated < 1321945449 764813 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no others. < 1321945465 496934 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the way upgrades in gravity well worked is that you could colonize planets, you start with one. < 1321945479 298696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long does it take to colonise a planet :P < 1321945483 655280 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically suppply ships go back and forth from your planets < 1321945489 741866 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a... significantly amount of time? I don't remember < 1321945493 168549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i should probably actually watch a starcraft match, i have literally never done so, and i guess it's pretty relevant in terms of like < 1321945497 742376 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the supply ships turn into new buildings on the planet which do things < 1321945498 729254 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :balance, match length, randomn distribution < 1321945502 27942 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of the buildings can be destroyed < 1321945507 360415 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't they like last for an hour < 1321945509 430455 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also eventually you get like better defense systems < 1321945522 217644 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: starcraft is so beautiful ;_; < 1321945545 242233 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway eventually planets get a research building < 1321945552 47082 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that slowly fills up a little meter thing < 1321945558 419898 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then when you land on a planet with a filled meter < 1321945568 935449 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get some kind of upgrade (I don't remember if it was random, probably) < 1321945590 902466 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway the strategy was in the supply pods, enemies could kill them so you have to fly around and protect them. < 1321945597 517097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but seriously how long do starcraft matches last) < 1321945603 499742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that sounds cool but i dunno how practical it'd be for like < 1321945614 847179 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anywhere from 10 minutes to like up to an hour and a half or more. < 1321945615 294999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something where you play someone you have a good chance of never playing again for not all that long < 1321945636 484210 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they can end very very swiftly or draw out forever < 1321945641 617525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321945641 712967 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually there's a breaking point < 1321945668 473486 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well it doesn't work with the orbiting shipfighting stuff because colonies are like big battle stations that are really hard to kill. < 1321945675 321316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321945677 435889 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :once they're fully developed < 1321945691 367224 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also you can capture the supply ship things < 1321945696 345563 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember how < 1321945700 361648 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you like shoot a certain part of them < 1321945702 608252 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :without killing it < 1321945710 404387 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i knew more about the game i'm making. like: how big are maps even < 1321945710 595391 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1321945731 853748 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: first question is probably what style of gameplay < 1321945739 356845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the hard one :) < 1321945741 937337 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You're making a game? < 1321945758 72611 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want something like a very tactical fighter or a more strategy colonization game. < 1321945758 614743 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it going to be in Haskell? < 1321945760 677945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: i'm definitely more interested in like strategic tricks than just flying and firing constantly < 1321945765 38575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, it is. < 1321945769 890954 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: right < 1321945774 554064 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it going to be a real-time strategy game? < 1321945779 577418 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should make one of those. < 1321945784 588327 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it would be interesting to not have colonies or anything but instead rely on strategy in a purely realtime fightery kind of sense. < 1321945795 367020 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It might very well permit the words "real-time strategy game" to be used to describe it! < 1321945810 52085 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Is it going to encourage things that are not micro-management? < 1321945810 522452 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmmm well.... < 1321945829 146784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I'm using the words very literally :P < 1321945830 973041 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you don't mind potentially long gametimes you could make colonization slow < 1321945837 824794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I hate micro-management, so yes. (The chances of there being more than one unit to control are ~0.) < 1321945842 832067 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this permits most planets to be uncolonized and suitable for epic dogfights < 1321945852 538421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: one problem is that you can't actually have planets :P < 1321945856 628889 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the problem is: you now have colonies, why are you dogfighting go kill colonies. < 1321945860 471304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: i mean you can have circles. but you can't go into their atmospheres or whatever < 1321945860 574139 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmmm? < 1321945864 302927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just orbit around them < 1321945865 115422 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1321945866 516049 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just circles < 1321945869 934620 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: right < 1321945874 42656 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I was imagining as well. < 1321945876 790025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321945880 956553 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD < 1321945881 638475 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1321945884 824270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess an important question is how big the circles are compared to you :) < 1321945893 806201 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh interesting < 1321945906 615329 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in gravity well they were very very small in comparison to actual real life. < 1321945908 827899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like do they fit on your screen, or are they like realistic-sized in which case that'd be a huge pain < 1321945915 639839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are they just like ten times the size of your ship < 1321945918 137798 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: former is easier < 1321945922 522396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1321945924 526938 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :latter is more challenging and interesting < 1321945934 706410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: on the other hand, with like the complicated orbital transfer stuff < 1321945940 577296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want big things because it just multiplies tedium < 1321945947 409345 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but generally with a game with like... what, -1 developers? you probably want to make compromises on complexity. < 1321945953 525663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want a bunch of small planets in an interesting arrangement < 1321945954 886844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: oh snap :P < 1321945960 909696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i count as 0 developers and ph -1 < 1321945971 714619 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably like -3 and that makes -1 < 1321945980 724245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh are you developing this, cool < 1321945984 509428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll hold you to that < 1321945988 829363 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good < 1321945994 421424 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I totally will < 1321945997 835187 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY WORD IS MY HONROR < 1321946017 402526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti "klingon" kallisti < 1321946020 82832 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think small planets would be better. < 1321946024 361425 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I have played a game, at anime convention, it is complete information without chance, except for the card you are dealt at the beginning of the game. Each player is dealt a random card from the deck at the beginning of the game, which is kept secret, and it tells the winning condition for that player. < 1321946026 1783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1321946029 397764 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless large planets become better... < 1321946030 96857 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1321946036 90303 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the ideas crystalize < 1321946046 869987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely going to require a prototype to be able to figure out how it should be played at all < 1321946056 603936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the dogfighting concept is fairly new altogether < 1321946057 877277 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The planets with larger should have more mass and therefore more gravity < 1321946063 342194 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: relatively new < 1321946066 763280 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1321946067 702524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for this game < 1321946070 463223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started out with just a gravity sim and some flying ideas and then we were like how can we make this into a game < 1321946080 408721 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what kind of mechanics were you thinking about re: orbital transfers < 1321946089 37053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the IDEAL would be a massive newtonian mmorpg with like full simulated galaxies < 1321946095 488372 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I seriously can't talk about this all night I HAVE SHIT TO DO. < 1321946095 633403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a massive economy < 1321946097 184499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1321946098 188427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1321946099 629903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck coding that < 1321946108 407160 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ..yes < 1321946116 220464 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly fuck playing that as well < 1321946127 932783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you gotta be addicted to an mmo < 1321946135 480808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might as well be a 2d newtonian one with an awesome art style. < 1321946143 149476 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but this game isn't an mmo in its current incarnation right? < 1321946152 3957 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :P < 1321946211 910751 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: for lack of tedium I highly recommend some kind of powerful boost. also: forward and reverse thrusters (both with boosts that are not infinitely available always) < 1321946225 917094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: well i was thinking about that like < 1321946236 745106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of the time with newtonian flights you're really just working against it going GOD DAMMIT LET ME TURN < 1321946238 569884 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you'll spend a lot of time just moving around and slowing yourself down and fucking up and turning back around etc < 1321946244 676138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the interesting thing to do is to make it not ABOUT turning < 1321946246 999040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1321946260 974070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :limit the various energies you have so that turning like that isn't even really an option < 1321946267 921391 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1321946269 814402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then you have to design things around taking ADVANTAGE of the newtonian flight < 1321946272 657693 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a lot more interesting < 1321946279 318028 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it more error-prone < 1321946285 264068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what < 1321946292 755029 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1321946294 555777 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you just described, not being able to turn easily < 1321946300 483142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :error-prone howso < 1321946301 710514 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :relying on newton < 1321946304 888239 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1321946308 323677 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be easy to fuck up < 1321946311 18256 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then take forever backtracking < 1321946313 771447 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get to where you want to go < 1321946321 457798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the idea is that most of the time you AREN'T just flying full-speed somewhere < 1321946332 740490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that "stable orbit with escapes" idea i had as a tactic < 1321946338 734210 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's the case in gravity well, and that even lets you turn (very slowly... a fast turn would probably have mitigated that actually) < 1321946360 313882 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmmm okay < 1321946362 933090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe you're drifting but like at the last moment accelerate quickly which makes you meet up with an orbit < 1321946363 482470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or w/e < 1321946391 620143 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you may have to automate some of the orbiting rather than relying purely on newtonian physics < 1321946397 334697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: ph's idea on this: Nov 19 22:57:40 I suppose you could have limited but regenerating remass? < 1321946400 7632 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless orbiting is relatively easy < 1321946405 366716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, that'd defeat the whole point, the whole point was proving to oklopol that it'd work < 1321946413 220834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, we found a javascript/canvas thing that did 2d newtonian mechanics after that < 1321946418 960664 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ph managed stable orbits with it just fine < 1321946421 229189 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :help what is remass < 1321946422 676682 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't but i'm shit at life < 1321946428 927260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: ph is here to help: Nov 19 22:58:35 Remass is the amount you can change your momentum by? < 1321946444 200423 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay < 1321946453 503468 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like.... < 1321946460 784182 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have infinite thrust all the time basically? < 1321946491 309999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one thing that could be done, yeah < 1321946498 15245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic idea is that like < 1321946500 561298 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's interesting. < 1321946502 486820 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :letting you accelerate really quickly to a point < 1321946507 215079 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then trying to hard turn in a vacuum < 1321946515 584075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a really stupid way to flight with newtonian physics because uhhh < 1321946521 790334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's awful and tedious and horrible < 1321946524 332950 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of the powerful boost being a special kind of thrust, it would be your only sort of thrust. < 1321946528 305935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you make it, like, not even possible, or at least really difficult < 1321946531 226306 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a few ideas for games: * Make a game using the periodic table of elements as the board. * Make a game using cards representing chemical elements. * Make a game using a real-time updated horoscope as the board. * Make a chess variant where some of the additional pieces on the board are hourglasses for varying lengths of time. < 1321946535 570710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you have to find other ways to fly < 1321946560 796848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: btw i've been envisioning the non-bullets going quite slowly. in case you weren't. < 1321946563 801563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uh < 1321946566 909448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asteroids speeds I guess ;P < 1321946567 642182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1321946568 131760 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was not. < 1321946570 343457 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe a little slower < 1321946583 576308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: well it's more interesting because it allows for actual movement to dodge bullets and the like < 1321946590 869101 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1321946599 467555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: and makes things like trapping your opponent in a slowdown bubble and firing bullets at them from all around it less game-breaking :P < 1321946603 190562 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes a slow-fast pace sounds good. :P < 1321946604 849113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that slows down the bullets too ofc) < 1321946610 12902 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to make any game like my idea? < 1321946614 852476 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/idea/idea(s)/ < 1321946618 78377 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning you have time to react to things, but it's still fast enough to require quick reflexes < 1321946625 62805 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nope, sorry < 1321946643 369237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: also: ricocheting!!! < 1321946651 57061 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: no reason why bullets couldn't bounce off like, i dunno, space walls < 1321946672 725844 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sort of envisioning a movement system where you can actually rotate very quickly but your thrusts are limited to short semi-powerful bursts. < 1321946687 107390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that sounds interesting < 1321946687 152673 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words a way to precisely aim the angle of the momentum change < 1321946688 965047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you'd want like < 1321946690 238276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lower level thrust < 1321946692 671397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can't go fast AT ALL < 1321946695 632662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can be used all the time < 1321946698 987611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, it'd be useless for turning < 1321946703 4153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it could gently ease into an orbit < 1321946712 910633 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with that is that if you hit thrust long enough you will be going insanely fast and have no way to slow down < 1321946718 646897 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you just wouldn't do that. < 1321946727 77866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's called suicide :P < 1321946741 391223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: i was thinking of a partially mouse-based interface. < 1321946751 661327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like rotating the ship would just be moving the mouse < 1321946755 857749 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But would you have any additional ideas to expand these? I have thought of some things too. Periodic table is not symmetrical but there are ways to make a game work anyways. < 1321946760 607826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :move mouse in circle = circular turning < 1321946761 394062 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: same < 1321946767 541584 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quickly jolt it in the opposite direction = the obvious < 1321946775 714732 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that would be the easiest way to get a pinpoint aim on your angle of acceleration < 1321946806 740561 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I do like the slow thrusts only being useful to achieve orbit or to otherwise make minor corrections < 1321946811 333065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1321946825 278721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be a good thing to bind to space :P < 1321946838 49230 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmmm < 1321946843 920281 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you may even want three kinds of thrusts < 1321946856 721166 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :one would be for long-distance flight < 1321946872 496382 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or escape I guess < 1321946872 615308 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :With horoscope, the planets will not move much, but for a game of a few hours the movement of houses will be significant. You could also play by mail, or on an airplane, or whatever, to change a lot of things about the game; more changes than when you play chess by hand or by mail. But there would have to be time limit so that you cannot just wait until the planets are in your favor. < 1321946890 841118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: that brings up the question of how big the map is :) < 1321946892 622770 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but then it would become trivial to evade slow-moving projectiles < 1321946900 604111 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just mega-boost in a sideways direction < 1321946909 551577 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hopefully you don < 1321946913 642690 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :'t crash into anything < 1321946927 411346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sold on the mega-boost yet. it seems like it reduces the interestingness of the physics < 1321946934 412698 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah just a thought < 1321946938 414556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1321946947 646208 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: two sounds sufficiently probably. < 1321946948 683202 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For chess with hourglasses, you could have different hourglass with different durations having different movement abilities, or you could have hourglass be extra pieces that the different kind augment your power of normal pieces according to their position and time. < 1321947082 741100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess with hourglasses < 1321947083 925707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a good name < 1321947095 797188 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: another question is... how big the ships are :P < 1321947117 461493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking they'd basically not be all that much more than simple small triangular-ish shapes, but that kinda reduces the interestingness of the ragdoll-physicsy aspect? < 1321947140 295229 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if the map is larger (larger map could benefit from more interesting varieties of planets, also would be good if any strategy is incorporated) then the mega-boost could instead be balanced by a long charge time. < 1321947144 246273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if a ship blows up it just blows up into debris < 1321947148 747588 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if those hit things it'll be pretty painful < 1321947173 570463 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's good < 1321947194 217682 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: good, but not as good with smaller ships < 1321947194 354593 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: depends on the velocity of the particles as well < 1321947206 805107 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily < 1321947219 623858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well how small are you thinking < 1321947222 8967 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :little tiny fast traveling space debris = death bullet < 1321947238 798477 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: help I have no scale < 1321947243 796395 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "medium sized" an option? < 1321947246 962344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Asteroi1.png i was thinking... like that triangle ship, but maybe 2x bigger??? in physical terms < 1321947250 318030 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1321947251 422240 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1321947253 860540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty small < 1321947256 993095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i dunno about that < 1321947261 414426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like different ship models??? < 1321947268 72819 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that sounds good < 1321947270 584807 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1321947273 840823 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be wise < 1321947277 196412 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to hold that off < 1321947280 529063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with different ship models is blah blah blah balance :P < 1321947281 28324 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for later < 1321947289 973298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably :P < 1321947291 789590 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :start with one kind of ship < 1321947296 162144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's something to consider when deciding < 1321947296 690612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1321947297 939770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big ships are < 1321947300 845227 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1321947303 169132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if they're small enough there's no room for variation. < 1321947330 540991 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'd like different ship models??? <-- like triangle and square? < 1321947334 712649 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also different models could have different sizes and thus different masses but I don't even know what kind of advantages large ships would have < 1321947340 7456 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, square is a viable shape in space < 1321947347 923288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah but it's also an UGLY shape. < 1321947353 64213 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no reason to be aerodynamic. < 1321947356 858547 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1321947374 616988 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'd say bigger than the on-screen triangle there but not in scale to other space objects. < 1321947383 287908 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so what shape then? I can manage some basic pixel art, but you seem to want to go for vector graphics rather < 1321947397 147617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: note: vector /wireframey/ stuff < 1321947399 786884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like < 1321947400 461560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :svg :P < 1321947407 330495 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something you could actually do on a vector display theoretically < 1321947407 376748 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you are on 2D < 1321947412 641285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hollow < 1321947416 216070 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1321947417 462102 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321947425 248607 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well mostly hollow < 1321947428 287222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everything has to be hollow :P < 1321947448 747544 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make the Einstein spacecraft game. < 1321947452 349835 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well you could do filled shapes by simply filling the hole. Due to the fact that the line has a width you will be able to fill a shape < 1321947461 117269 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if you could do that fast enough though < 1321947469 714391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's about the aesthetic, not the implementation :P < 1321947480 651196 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: debris is a good idea, but obviously physics should be taken into account. not everything is going to make deadly space debris that radiates in many directions because that would make killing another ship in a close range encounter unwise < 1321947484 892316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is basically to pump every polygon into the physics engine. < 1321947496 831010 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: surely you are going to use the sound card to run this on an analogue oscope in xy mode? < 1321947498 526586 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have special cases for "interesting" objects. < 1321947503 305100 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if not I'm not interested! < 1321947509 251989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: sry < 1321947513 330840 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1321947517 39797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: graphics card to run it on a pixel display in opengl mode :P < 1321947523 271411 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: well yeah < 1321947527 968303 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you seen the video of someone doing that for a demo right? < 1321947532 278658 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise let me find the link < 1321947536 885795 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes < 1321947538 866646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you linked it < 1321947539 639886 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321947544 42386 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1321947552 24747 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you know how to make the Einstein spacecraft game? < 1321947552 718020 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: still it was amazing :P < 1321947558 183061 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nope < 1321947564 363057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: gah now i want to get a simple prototype up and running. < 1321947578 966090 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that would, uh, be a good way to get the project rolling. < 1321947587 598575 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know either. But it is an idea. < 1321947602 723824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: well the good thing is, it makes me want to work on the thing i also need for my other game project. < 1321947609 561424 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good < 1321947618 348270 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there are lots of good things to a prototype < 1321947618 434282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: which is known as < 1321947625 74429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: project i don't want to write any fucking glsl shaders < 1321947628 546582 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: in case you haven't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1eNjUgaB-g < 1321947646 868351 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so < 1321947648 988136 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 minutes from now < 1321947651 161439 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM DISAPPEARING < 1321947655 470006 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND WRITING THE REST OF THIS PAPER < 1321947661 569574 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321947662 411119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: i think you can agree that that is the best name < 1321947674 971590 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the games, you might not require shaders, you might not require 3D, you might not require much at all. It depend much on what game you are making. < 1321947675 505171 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: er what is? < 1321947677 682423 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: watch that video first, it is like 3 minutes or something. Not exactly long. < 1321947682 205936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : kallisti: which is known as < 1321947682 772324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : kallisti: project i don't want to write any fucking glsl shaders < 1321947686 841899 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1321947687 864490 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1321947692 395859 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1321947694 712437 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :very enterprise < 1321947696 808443 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: everything is done by shaders these days < 1321947715 524213 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as in, you need at least a basic shader to get anything drawn < 1321947719 605980 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, HOW < 1321947723 784051 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You don't have to write a shader if you use a text mode. < 1321947724 940261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what < 1321947727 340168 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you are using opengl 2.x < 1321947733 632280 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: then it isn't opengl? < 1321947742 546249 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are oscilloscopes actually arbitrary display thingies that just .. what < 1321947745 46623 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, then it isn't opengl. < 1321947748 798985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: they're vector displays < 1321947752 330273 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: oh that, well they have an xy mode < 1321947756 979623 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they are vector displays yes < 1321947763 323169 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway the best way to discuss balance is to actually have concepts coded in the game to test. < 1321947776 724173 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: kallisti: (what the project actually is is a library which compiles functional list folds and maps and shit to glsl shader code.) < 1321947778 518676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1321947781 813283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sgeo: was a mistake < 1321947783 274151 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: normally the x signal is taken from time, but you can just put it in xy mode and use one input for each axis < 1321947785 464555 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because this asserts that the mechanic is practical to implement < 1321947792 275883 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because it's already implemented < 1321947792 565625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: (because) < 1321947797 130390 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it allows you to actually test it. < 1321947798 9373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: (i don't want to write any fucking glsl shaders) < 1321947801 849383 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well, that is a simplification of the normal operation mode, but basically yes < 1321947811 611391 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have stuff like triggers and what not too < 1321947823 884296 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: wouldn't work on a modern digital scope of course. < 1321947827 575658 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, ah, ok. < 1321947828 57198 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :they use bitmap displays < 1321947833 461729 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this is why games tend to have large numbers of cool things implemented in them that are subsequently removed in the production release. < 1321947845 567208 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or left as like easter eggs or cheats or whatever < 1321947852 753684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: yes. < 1321947877 45642 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and networking will be essentially because, well, we need to players to actually test it. < 1321947908 27850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: yeah, but i'd rather just get a simple ship flying in space with some random masses :P < 1321947910 536149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :first < 1321947914 210774 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well yeah < 1321947921 527933 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be weird to write the protocol before you have anything else. < 1321947941 420493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: btw the problem with project i don't want to write any fucking glsl shaders is that instead i have to write a countably infinite number of glsl shaders < 1321947944 172825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by writing a compiler to them. < 1321947951 101622 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : kallisti: (i don't want to write any fucking glsl shaders) <-- it is quite easy actualy < 1321947952 553674 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you dropped the ball elliott" - a person < 1321947953 865993 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually* < 1321947967 726497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yep, but i don't like writing c, and i don't like writing restricted c even more < 1321947970 470884 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you won't be doing lighting calculations right? < 1321947980 850709 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well there's neon glow, but... no. < 1321947985 922471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: HOWEVER, I will be for EC < 1321947988 637234 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: then it is basically trivial < 1321947996 426054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i might as well save the pain of writing glsl once < 1321947999 678925 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reap the real benefits later < 1321948022 61564 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it would be interesting to have a gun that simply emits force into space, though I suppose it would have to obey newton's third law < 1321948023 300185 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually the major issue is getting the normals the right way around < 1321948028 26781 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the input data < 1321948040 383089 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm taking a course in 3D graphics currently < 1321948047 556344 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so basically you could change the momentum and direction of things like asteroids. < 1321948049 939537 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Youscope is available as a .wav file somewhere in the interwebs; X and Y inputs as the left/right channels, just hook a 'scope to your sound card. < 1321948056 980371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I wanna hear that. < 1321948065 998657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: that would be fun < 1321948066 371182 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it is linked in the video description < 1321948068 690250 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^ < 1321948083 765978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah i can hear things you say right after me < 1321948083 891435 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no clue what purpose that would have :P < 1321948083 967444 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: anyway "Most soundcards (and other players) seem to have a lowpass filter at about half of the samplerate, making some effects here look quite strange. The soundcard used in this video just didn't have proper filters so it happens to be suitable for these effects." < 1321948096 660755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: throwing an asteroid at your opponent :P < 1321948105 498377 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: strange, you must have a new beta version of irc then? < 1321948120 821201 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: holy shit this sounds good < 1321948122 836786 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what if you could like... < 1321948130 206267 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Right; I was thinking it might be linked, but thanks to noscript couldn't click the "see more" thing. < 1321948133 450353 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: collide asteroids into planets and fuck up their orbits < 1321948138 513635 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's scary I don't even want to think about that. < 1321948145 59826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: sounds fun! < 1321948150 880743 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah < 1321948157 102114 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: space sandbox: the game < 1321948168 617310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: http://universesandbox.com/ :P < 1321948182 16930 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you might like it. I don't. Oh well. < 1321948184 478014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: http://mirror.kapsi.fi/koodaa.mine.nu/tvt/youscope-wave.wav seriously listen to this????? < 1321948186 424279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO GOOD < 1321948198 789849 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite horrible < 1321948212 282900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amount of structure it has is amazing < 1321948228 946724 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why am I hearing silence < 1321948237 88322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: turn up speakers?? < 1321948240 280984 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :max < 1321948244 685502 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like sound to me < 1321948245 707738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait for it to change maybe your soundcard/speakers suck and are filtering that part < 1321948251 943496 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: check with another sound file to see if you can hear it? < 1321948256 351212 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not unlikely < 1321948262 87331 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: it works fine with my SB Live 5.1 card < 1321948264 505066 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: laptop speakers and sound card < 1321948268 882390 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1321948268 963350 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, hold on < 1321948272 458171 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: me too < 1321948276 464645 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :headphones for optimal experience < 1321948278 830239 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is great < 1321948297 874937 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :note for headphone users: turn the volume way down to avoid damaging your hearing < 1321948299 552899 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Maybe with the right amount of imagination (and/or chemistry) you can listen to youscope-wave.wav on your headphones, close your eyes, and see the corresponding effects. < 1321948311 583514 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lspci | grep -i audio < 1321948313 746 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) < 1321948323 476727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa hd audio nice < 1321948324 365148 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's HIGH DEFINITION < 1321948336 499521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Sounds fun. < 1321948341 580569 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: does other sound play currently? Sometimes I had alsa bug out on me randomly < 1321948341 890167 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe I'm deaf? < 1321948344 876536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : note for headphone users: turn the volume way down to avoid damaging your hearing < 1321948349 460082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :--vorpal, 54 years old < 1321948354 487771 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Try another sound? :P < 1321948358 922747 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ lspci | grep -i audio < 1321948358 967908 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh right. let me check < 1321948359 19157 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) < 1321948359 64301 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Barts HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6800 Series] < 1321948359 64453 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07) < 1321948375 49720 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1321948376 251958 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no audio < 1321948380 739405 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: like, "Disabling IRQ [IRQ for sound card]" randomly in dmesg. < 1321948385 99841 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue what caused those still < 1321948434 393427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do video cards have audio cards nowadays. < 1321948455 170986 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm alsa reload didn't work < 1321948465 150155 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can send audio over HDMI < 1321948467 291850 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why < 1321948471 53033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyyyyyyyyyyy < 1321948475 241551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: its not alsa < 1321948475 325877 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because MULTIMEDIA. < 1321948478 712809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: try downloading it and mplayer < 1321948489 867353 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there we go. alsa force-reload worked < 1321948490 279365 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because it is more like Digital SCART than DVI < 1321948494 964206 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(really) < 1321948503 442640 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: huh < 1321948507 494353 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The win7 laptop automagically switched default audio-out to HDMI when I plugged in the (no speakers or anything of that sort) monitor. < 1321948511 26536 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the cleverest. < 1321948516 231760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlZH1p0EUBs < 1321948516 355673 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION listens
< 1321948517 127520 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321948528 355678 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think alsa reload didn't want to reload because other things were using it. < 1321948533 680044 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:04.0 System peripheral: Compaq Computer Corporation Integrated Lights Out Controller (rev 03) < 1321948533 725530 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:04.2 System peripheral: Compaq Computer Corporation Integrated Lights Out Processor (rev 03) < 1321948534 253332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: synth straight to oscilloscope :D < 1321948536 784767 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder what *that* does. < 1321948539 38843 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321948547 491552 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nice < 1321948549 402851 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Integrated Lights Out Controller"... sounds like it's for punching other components. < 1321948568 573972 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you got the uplink edition < 1321948582 962936 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :desktop: http://sprunge.us/ZRPi laptop: http://sprunge.us/IGJg < 1321948590 535386 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmmm sounds mostly like a lot of frequency modulation synthesis < 1321948593 206641 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This was from a server I happened to have ssh'd to accidentally.) < 1321948594 469309 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? < 1321948599 786385 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: uh its that demo Vorpal linked < 1321948601 377672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in .wav form < 1321948603 954777 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fed to an oscilloscope < 1321948609 377625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to produce graphics < 1321948613 781951 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right i mean how was it generated < 1321948619 518741 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: you /did/ watch the video right? < 1321948624 896069 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it. < 1321948629 17001 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1321948654 66497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anyway I GUESS the shader might be trivial for aii but i dunno, maybe i want to do the background with a shader???? < 1321948667 278815 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay. < 1321948668 443582 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1321948685 362729 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yep. You want to basically draw a quad filling the screen and map the texture to it. You do that in the shader. Quite easy too < 1321948689 715699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: isn't it nice < 1321948690 575438 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1321948693 366402 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like.... < 1321948695 363782 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially with no lighting calculations < 1321948696 826639 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d waveform stuff < 1321948698 466633 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1321948702 93512 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's interesting as a sound synthesis technique < 1321948709 429120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no i mean generate it with the shader because there's a lot of parallaxen... < 1321948710 469954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1321948712 18225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :procedural < 1321948712 545905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff < 1321948729 129421 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, I don't know anything about that. < 1321948743 654731 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol wtf that's insane. < 1321948750 372253 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even do that with a time-domain signal < 1321948759 104855 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: do what with a time-domain signal? < 1321948769 573748 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :make animations basically < 1321948772 471387 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1321948774 201571 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask me < 1321948776 376515 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't make it < 1321948790 408304 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1321948792 473101 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still amazes me that sound card even work. < 1321948794 585466 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just draw one frame and then draw another? < 1321948796 818043 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cards* < 1321948800 706807 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :X is left channel Y is right. < 1321948801 566960 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1321948824 727985 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't there a line connecting everything on screen though < 1321948829 975188 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: right < 1321948851 954273 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably that's not how x/y-mode works on an oscilloscope < 1321948856 851332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there is, you can see it when it goes to a point < 1321948857 153263 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1321948858 512473 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just faint? < 1321948860 232404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1321948864 75111 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm okay < 1321948876 868255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Europeans started to place magnetic mountains on their maps in the sixteenth century. A notable example is Gerardus Mercator, whose famous maps included a magnetic mountain or two near the North Pole. At first, he just placed a mountain in an arbitrary location; but later he attempted to measure its location based on declinations from different locations in Europe. When subsequent measurements resulted < 1321948876 974308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : in two contradictory estimates for the mountain, he simply placed two mountains on the map.[2][7] < 1321948881 762266 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also sort-of do the "same thing in reverse", use a sound card as an oscilloscope, if you don't mind having a horribly limited and cheap-ass 'scope; but there's software that has lots of buttons and all: http://www.zeitnitz.de/Christian/scope_en < 1321948900 182902 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, if you move fast enough you can't see the line; you "draw" by moving slowly enough. < 1321948904 543440 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what? < 1321948925 36642 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's some insanely complex shit going on between the left and right channel though. < 1321948937 551550 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mind blown
< 1321948947 437500 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what < 1321948957 972995 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: magnetic mountains? What? < 1321948966 950003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see wikipedia article ``history of geomagnetism'' < 1321948968 587415 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It got quite a lot of applause when it was shown. < 1321948977 164747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anyway i forget what the other thing that isn't shaders is, that isn't deprecated < 1321948982 860163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something buffer objects??? < 1321948988 220091 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything Buffer Objects. < 1321948993 537817 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's like two things that aren't deprecated in opengl these days, i know that much < 1321948994 678034 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you use those together with shaders < 1321949006 414745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's all, right? < 1321949009 19018 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: like texture buffer objects or whatever their name was for textures < 1321949014 441762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there < 1321949015 16301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more < 1321949024 257614 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is mesmerized
< 1321949027 556153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vertex arrays?? or?? < 1321949031 749348 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well you need a bit of C code to synchronize it all < 1321949035 89210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shit < 1321949044 796812 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and yes there are those. Which is like buffer objects for loading vertex data in < 1321949053 461858 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't have to send everything to the GPU every frame < 1321949055 865627 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frame and Vertex and Pixel and Texture and Whatever Buffer Objects. < 1321949061 856849 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what i really want is just a "list of newest things" < 1321949067 648048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with anything replaced by a newer thing omitted. < 1321949070 668746 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1321949072 112275 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to < 1321949073 800944 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :do things < 1321949076 434638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy < 1321949077 374730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing things < 1321949082 630240 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1321949084 776851 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't < 1321949098 627507 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: uh, I believe there is a #version nnn or such you put in the shader code that means it will warn you if you use stuff that isn't supported in said version < 1321949102 577302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: ok < 1321949107 467031 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :like #version 330 for opengl 3.3 < 1321949115 285265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no i mean there's things that aren't deprecated but you're not meant to use, i think even gl_begin/gl_end stuff isn't deprecated < 1321949124 526971 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "unjoy"-as-in-verb the opposite of "enjoy"? < 1321949124 792120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that like < 1321949131 201339 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: gl_begin/gl_end are deprecated < 1321949137 286528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: citation plz < 1321949140 780450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read that they aren't < 1321949144 875347 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is just that they are supported in a compatibility profile < 1321949144 919078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone expected them to be but they weren't < 1321949151 698178 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1321949153 692259 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/OpenGL ;; this is not helpful for figuring out which apis i have to use < 1321949156 481609 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it includes everything < 1321949174 778162 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'll look it up. < 1321949291 468326 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the book I have here is for opengl 3.1 < 1321949297 935951 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not exactly helpful on that point < 1321949327 729043 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (doing things) I suppose you intend to have realistic gravity? < 1321949342 367465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: that's < 1321949348 124081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of the point of the whole newtonian thing < 1321949348 234495 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you on intel graphics? < 1321949354 523306 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. :p < 1321949354 938978 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so I think you are stuck on opengl 2.x < 1321949355 640946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: we're literally implementing newtonian physics < 1321949361 366531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes < 1321949369 891151 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: then you can't use the new stuff < 1321949374 102428 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are stuck on the old version < 1321949374 927479 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1321949378 446607 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: uh i am sure i can use shaders... < 1321949407 482520 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes however your physics won't be realistic unless the spaceship to planet/star mass ratio is realistic even though the sizes are not. < 1321949417 504545 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I guess you're just going to do that? < 1321949417 781414 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: try this: glxinfo | grep OpenGL | grep version < 1321949422 366376 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should get two lines < 1321949433 40238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: you can just make the planets more massive without increasing their size. < 1321949439 278917 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can't collapse into black holes./ < 1321949442 389687 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: right, so yes < 1321949445 224266 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptop (intel graphics): < 1321949447 169322 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ glxinfo | grep OpenGL | grep version < 1321949447 214684 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1 < 1321949447 214875 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 < 1321949449 23141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: glxinfo: command not found < 1321949449 609930 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :desktop: < 1321949455 852718 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ glxinfo | grep OpenGL | grep version < 1321949456 20292 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenGL version string: 4.1.11005 Compatibility Profile Context < 1321949456 66804 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenGL shading language version string: 4.10 < 1321949458 579351 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so install it? < 1321949474 461539 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/bin/glxinfo is owned by mesa-demos 8.0.1-1 < 1321949480 783528 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :mesa-demos? Really? < 1321949509 729030 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.11.1 < 1321949509 800431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 < 1321949528 64159 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: then you are stuck on the old version of opengl with glBegin/glEnd and so on < 1321949532 542695 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE89237.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321949534 178064 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: one problem I'm forseeing is that gravity assisted manuevers will be difficult when you have to reason about multiple gravitational forces pulling on your spacecraft < 1321949534 808910 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 < 1321949539 80996 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you might be able to use a few basic shaders, but I wouldn't bet on it < 1321949543 527129 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also orbits even? < 1321949545 773301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 < 1321949547 963408 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yep but you don't have most of the modern features < 1321949554 135647 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno I'm not really a space physics expert < 1321949561 779617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i'm pretty sure 1.2 will be quite enough for my limited needs. < 1321949562 266380 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can do some /very/ basic shaders < 1321949577 653713 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: still I'm pretty sure you only have the stateful API available < 1321949579 932962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: see, for instance, the fact that GPipe is completely GLSL 1.2 < 1321949595 680508 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I wouldn't use gpipe then < 1321949597 590853 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :too limited < 1321949599 850475 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321949613 643568 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realise that < 1321949616 423846 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :most games work on intel cards < 1321949617 274521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321949620 804936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however slowly < 1321949641 175865 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not the high end ones on linux. See PH trying to get stuff working < 1321949645 905392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no < 1321949646 515600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1321949647 225689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1321949651 668768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has massive driver problems < 1321949654 38272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most things crash his card < 1321949662 315327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a problem which i have never experienced < 1321949667 771946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is entirely due to his system being fucked < 1321949669 734291 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trine requires stuff not found on intel graphics for example < 1321949678 287422 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell's opengl binding: also opengl 2.1! all the people building actual shit on top of that MUST BE COMPLAINING!! oh wait they're not people use it just fine < 1321949724 136576 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: point is, opengl 2.x is a completely different API from opengl 3.x and later < 1321949752 135325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ph < 1321949756 815313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prior to the release of OpenGL 3.0, the new revision was known as the codename Longs Peak. At the time of its original announcement, Longs Peak was presented as the first major API revision in OpenGL's lifetime. It consisted of an overhaul to the way that OpenGL works, calling for fundamental changes to the API. < 1321949756 892287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The draft introduced a change to object management. The GL 2.1 object model was built upon the state-based design of OpenGL. That is, in order to modify an object or to use it, one needs to bind the object to the state system, then make modifications to the state or perform function calls that use the bound object. < 1321949756 937779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of OpenGL's use of a state system, objects must be mutable. That is, the basic structure of an object can change at any time, even if the rendering pipeline is asynchronously using that object. A texture object can be redefined from 2D to 3D. This requires any OpenGL implementations to add a degree of complexity to internal object management. < 1321949760 311338 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under the Longs Peak API, object creation would become atomic, using templates to define the properties of an object which would be created with a single function call. The object could then be used immediately across multiple threads. Objects would also be immutable; however, they could have their contents changed and updated. For example, a texture could change its image, but its size and format coul < 1321949763 772595 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1321949765 294444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d not be changed. < 1321949767 318687 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[...] < 1321949769 363768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[...] < 1321949769 409225 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are still major changes < 1321949771 300484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[...] < 1321949773 313755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The final specification proved far less revolutionary than the Longs Peak proposal. Instead of removing all immediate mode and fixed functionality (non-shader mode), the spec included them as deprecated features. The proposed object model was not included, and no plans have been announced to include it in any future revisions. As a result, the API remained largely the same with a few existing extension < 1321949776 794075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not as major as they wanted < 1321949778 335699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s being promoted to core functionality. < 1321949780 215800 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenGL 3.0 added support for frame buffer objects, hardware instancing, vertex array objects (VAOs), and sRGB framebuffers (gamma 2.2).[26] OpenGL 3.0 introduced a deprecation mechanism to simplify the API in future revisions. < 1321949797 783118 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also will the n-body problem be a... problem? < 1321949804 881477 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "With the release of the OpenGL 3.1 specification, a compatibility extension was also released that enables developers to access the OpenGL 1.X/2.X functionality removed in OpenGL 3.1.[28] Notably, legacy functionality for wide line support is retained." < 1321949810 744025 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Removed legacy functionality includes:[29] < 1321949810 789375 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : All fixed-function options" < 1321949817 330670 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Direct mode < 1321949817 475595 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Color index mode, i.e. pixel formats with color palettes < 1321949837 184596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i'm not intending to use the fixed-function pipeline, so woo? < 1321949841 581915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: yeah the whole game will crash if you have more than 2 bodies < 1321949851 621426 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1321949853 455217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: (hint: it doesn't have to be exact) < 1321949858 322557 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but afaik fixed function + some limited shader is all you have in opengl 2.x < 1321949865 632317 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runge%E2%80%93Kutta_methods < 1321949878 868906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes have i ever said i was planning to use not-shaders < 1321949894 75330 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Vertex Array Objects is new in opengl 3.0 < 1321949908 862231 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: blowing up moons should definitely be possible and awesome < 1321949911 472166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* fine, so i have to use something else < 1321949915 317901 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they become... rings? < 1321949931 678854 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when you collect 50 rings you get to the bonus stage wait that was something else. < 1321949957 812273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anyway, i'm planning to buy a new computer soon sOOooooOOoooOoooOooOoooooo < 1321949958 389222 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway I can't help you with opengl 2.x much. I only ever worked with fixed function in old opengl. And with 3.3 or later for modern opengl < 1321950009 502555 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the dwarf fortress approach to map generation would be to formulate the universe from the big bang, with some randomized initial conditions, and then allow matter to stabilize into celestial bodies. < 1321950035 332606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: that's what all sandbox games want to be really < 1321950049 457340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anyway i could just use the fixed function shit < 1321950062 109790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell, i could probably just software render this, i just don't want to < 1321950077 710686 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : And when you collect 50 rings you get to the bonus stage wait that was something else. <-- wait, was that sonic? < 1321950083 645 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. < 1321950089 981689 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321950099 629825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: *mario < 1321950139 511012 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there was that starfox game that had rings too iirc < 1321950157 768144 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I seriously doubt a common PC could simulate the formation of galaxies over billions of years faster than the universe actually did it. (strong CakeProphet hypothesis) < 1321950163 209642 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Also VBOs were added to core OpenGL 3.x, but there's the GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object extension in 2.1 already, and Mesa has supported it since version 5.1 from the 2003s. < 1321950171 84182 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1321950171 366068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: is that your final prophecy < 1321950173 498962 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: or, that it would be fast enough for the patience of the common gamer (weak CakeProphet hypothesis) < 1321950189 301863 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extensions are of course mildly annoying to use. < 1321950207 546722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Gee, here I was thinking Vorpal's statement that people never did shaders properly before OpenGL 3.0 was bullshit :P < 1321950207 592196 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I am still a prophet: kallisti is merely my true name < 1321950211 496378 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/OpenGL 3.0/2008/ < 1321950214 161364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was what I meant to type. < 1321950226 233904 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it depends on the definition of "properly". < 1321950234 10292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/OpenGLRaw/1.1.0.2/doc/html/Graphics-Rendering-OpenGL-Raw-ARB-VertexBufferObject.html < 1321950238 99952 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :htkallas@pc112:~$ glxinfo < 1321950238 173410 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed. To run 'glxinfo' please ask your administrator to install the package 'mesa-utils' < 1321950238 220344 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no silly workstation installation. < 1321950248 200612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :import Graphics.Rendering.OpenGL.Raw.ARB.Compatibility < 1321950248 277133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :import Graphics.Rendering.OpenGL.Raw.Core32 < 1321950273 530497 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GLintptr, a pointer so shiny it glints. < 1321950299 21632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I'll have to ask PH about prediction algorithms for this stuff. < 1321950308 390832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it shouldn't be TOO hard? < 1321950402 203345 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not impossibly difficult no. < 1321950411 205619 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to create /some/ algorithm to generate a map. < 1321950423 584331 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you know, you are going to /hate/ TES lore about the dwemer ("dwarves") < 1321950427 645452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I wasn't talking about that. < 1321950431 190805 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh < 1321950435 183374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I was talking about prediction for network stuff, since that is pretty important. < 1321950438 168676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For maps I don't know what we're doing. < 1321950439 170852 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runge-Kutta is the default differential-equation-solver method for the TI-86. (The other alternative is a straightforward Euler thing.) < 1321950439 568299 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they are actually a kind of stocky underground elves in the lore. < 1321950441 407185 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Procedural generation sounds right? < 1321950445 397294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: gross < 1321950450 391363 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't even know how that works so uh... >_> < 1321950454 938794 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: :P < 1321950464 140993 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They're also MYSTERIOUS. What HAPPENED to them. < 1321950472 343053 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :very true < 1321950486 26058 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there are multiple theories in the in-game literature, as usual in TES games. < 1321950498 702617 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose Skyrim elucidates much on the Dwemer? It doesn't sound like one of its CORE COMPETENCIES. < 1321950501 329970 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: What if there's no thrusts and you just shoot in the opposite direction to thrust. < 1321950508 882955 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've read some of the books in Morrowind/Oblivion, yes. < 1321950511 678483 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also weren't really short actually. < 1321950521 869172 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't suppose Skyrim elucidates much on the Dwemer? It doesn't sound like one of its CORE COMPETENCIES. <-- some stuff it does. < 1321950525 84228 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just nondeterministically split the game state based on every possible player input (including no input) until the game resolves the problem by actually receiving the input. :P < 1321950525 129433 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much though < 1321950530 87472 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that sounds really dumb :P < 1321950534 404927 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: more than oblivion, less than morrowind I would say < 1321950561 844860 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just buy the silly game. 32.40 EUR with 0% VAT from Åland. < 1321950564 920115 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there are way more dwemer ruins in Skyrim than in cyrodil (spelling?) < 1321950566 214657 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not *so* bad. < 1321950581 914442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You could pirate it (but you might feel bad). < 1321950583 754322 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two i's, I think. < 1321950596 403023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like QuickBasic but not? < 1321950599 54615 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :in row? Pretty sure it isn't Cyrodiil... < 1321950610 899082 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cyrodiil is an Imperial province in the south-central region of Tamriel and the home of a humanoid race known as Imperials." < 1321950614 310162 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1321950626 678086 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the setting of oblivion < 1321950627 147791 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There's no I in TEAM, but there's two in CYRODIIL", like the old saying goes. < 1321950632 459147 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know what it means.) < 1321950656 653329 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lurchtime. < 1321950670 258562 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it means cyrodiil is a geography organism with two eyes. < 1321950671 334587 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also some indication that orcs might be a type of elves. < 1321950698 163504 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321950701 223908 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they messed up their conlangs that is < 1321950754 869295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically in Skyrim everyone is elf. < 1321950763 106184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf are elf, orc are elf. < 1321950766 114578 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not humans. Or most monsters < 1321950772 885132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not YET. < 1321950780 263119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wait for Skyrim II: Human Are Elf Boogaloo < 1321950782 161684 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe in TES VI < 1321950791 31020 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they're all Skyrim now. That's just how popular it is. < 1321950791 884505 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncb7lHNWbnU < 1321950801 879326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim XIXIIXIXIXIXIX: So Very Tired < 1321950805 815210 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 10 minute tournamet final in Starcraft II < 1321950807 566104 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321950824 79759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: why do i want to watch this < 1321950838 406091 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because you mentioned wanting to watch a starcraft video that isn't 2 hours < 1321950847 582512 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also argonians and whatever the name of the cat people is are not elves. < 1321950851 281558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: i stopped watching at "300 dollars for the winner" (ok i won't stop) < 1321950859 817059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: i take it the korean prizes are like 1 mil < 1321950861 994074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dollars < 1321950866 651954 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have no idea < 1321950867 390969 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: bretons might be human-elf hybrids according to some of the lore. < 1321950874 569437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: read as "bitcoins" < 1321950876 253103 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I actually don't know how badass these people are. < 1321950877 984559 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear to god < 1321950881 81346 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321950887 340059 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but this lore has been around longer than skyrim < 1321950905 801492 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That video's from the beta, there wasn't much going on back then < 1321950909 753377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: SWEET IT'S IN 720P < 1321950914 935390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I can always count on you to know things. < 1321950946 716211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: fuck it, if i'm watching this it'll be in 1080p < 1321950948 46212 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: as far as I can tell protoss is going to win? < 1321950951 584463 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spoiler) < 1321950965 470895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess i'll < 1321950966 238726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch this < 1321950967 476103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1321950968 571443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 480p < 1321950970 44327 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Last weekend's MLG (in the USA) had a $120k prize pool < 1321950970 842884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a reasonable person < 1321950977 634303 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how that's divvied up though < 1321950983 546842 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you have any idea what's going on? < 1321950988 418748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: i just started < 1321950988 685224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1321950997 220182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the blue things < 1321951001 476630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are < 1321951002 122967 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blue < 1321951002 701168 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :minerals < 1321951005 279586 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1321951006 752812 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :resources < 1321951008 495612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they were flying things < 1321951015 119794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ones are the zergs i know zergs < 1321951019 365238 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : kallisti: SWEET IT'S IN 720P <-- only? there is 1080p sometimes too < 1321951028 209539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: see a few lines later < 1321951028 862233 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zerg is the generic alien mutant things < 1321951031 716198 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321951033 273357 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :protoss are the yellow-blue shiny < 1321951042 478397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: out-macroed!!! worst concept i can think of < 1321951043 656694 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what happened to 4096p? < 1321951049 985577 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm? < 1321951055 286788 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: still going i think < 1321951061 825552 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you know what macro means in this context? < 1321951062 10205 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 480p < 1321951062 852491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: nothing i say will make sense unless you sync to the point i'm at :P < 1321951065 660032 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: slow download? < 1321951067 155798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i assume it's < 1321951068 7796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a macro? < 1321951071 59470 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1321951072 827536 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's macromanagement < 1321951074 182339 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :macromanagement < 1321951075 934486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1321951077 952077 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jargon < 1321951078 901362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so weird < 1321951082 446357 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes and also i literally couldn't distinguish the higher ones because < 1321951084 606671 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cf. micro < 1321951085 165324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :youtube compression is bad < 1321951094 107759 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: basically what normal people do when they play starcraft. managing mineral usage and expansion and research < 1321951102 118473 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: micromanagement is individual unit movement and tricks. < 1321951110 526078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :proxy < 1321951113 135909 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :proxy proxy proxy < 1321951125 783916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they doing this commentary over skype < 1321951127 641208 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a proxy is an offensive outpost next to the enemy base < 1321951130 24261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like it < 1321951136 574389 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to restrict them from expanding < 1321951139 263710 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and getting more resources < 1321951146 658106 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :good protoss strategy < 1321951155 214830 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god, not starcraft < 1321951158 523303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you play sc or just watch videos of it < 1321951163 412436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel this is probably a legitimate distinction since < 1321951167 627298 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I play it. < 1321951169 408444 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it is fun, but you seem to need to spend a lot of time to get into it. < 1321951172 284965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :most sports fans don't really play sports much on average i would guess < 1321951176 821624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1321951178 113163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1321951192 739035 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: i'm two minutes in, are they actually playing properly or just like preparing < 1321951206 618375 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :next someone is going to start talking about DOTA games. < 1321951212 34341 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't know what you mean < 1321951225 253401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: ok here's the real question i was asking < 1321951225 490894 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1321951228 887914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why aren't tehy doing anything interseting < 1321951243 789785 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they will < 1321951268 218159 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game is fucking weird < 1321951281 134488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to say the commentary style is very soothing < 1321951281 906303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1321951287 90765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it's basically obnoxious < 1321951290 701891 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :..yes < 1321951291 61781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i would not watch this without it < 1321951314 146671 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ever watched a DOTA style game? < 1321951319 418123 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1321951321 574863 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wow < 1321951323 410169 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game < 1321951323 723475 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good for you < 1321951331 587439 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there are few more boring things < 1321951345 970494 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1321951347 814831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: oh hm < 1321951347 965261 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, probably players of the game understand it. I don't really < 1321951352 645802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we actually seeing the screen of someone playing < 1321951354 59598 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what time are you on? < 1321951356 484801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just of a commenterer < 1321951357 482483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3:51 < 1321951359 764662 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no it's a spectator screen < 1321951364 547678 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :spectator player person < 1321951365 371772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4:00 < 1321951368 968986 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: right i was thinking that < 1321951372 39330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much seemed to be actually being done < 1321951416 310674 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh well the protoss dude has a proxy at the zergs base < 1321951416 625164 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're basically buiding up units to prepare for a battle < 1321951442 438774 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoulder-poking < 1321951446 892943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most menacing < 1321951448 925510 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so the protoss player can basically warp in units from his main base to that proxy thing < 1321951452 981157 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1321951480 970698 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you want to see the player's POV, http://www.youtube.com/user/remembertomorrow0 has a ton of videos < 1321951497 204493 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "banelings" are little suicide bombers < 1321951498 881355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I have a feeling it'd be signifiacntly less comprehensible < 1321951501 97160 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for zerg < 1321951511 209551 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You're right, it would < 1321951519 396391 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's kind of hard to see what's going actually. < 1321951540 88529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing i wanted to mention was < 1321951542 668067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not starcraft 1 < 1321951544 991979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :--commenter < 1321951545 37208 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321951545 866974 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1321951549 26589 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1321951549 894002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that < 1321951550 367502 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lol'd < 1321951551 658385 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :commentary guy < 1321951556 587393 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: okay so the nydus worm < 1321951560 453002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1321951562 695252 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly explosions everywhere < 1321951562 740865 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets the zerg funnel units across the map < 1321951571 168387 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloodg < 1321951573 877781 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so while that battle is going on < 1321951577 969086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaah alien battle < 1321951579 820724 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :another is going on at the protoss base < 1321951585 882089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1321951586 741287 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you can't see for most of the time. < 1321951590 60830 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do humans play this game < 1321951592 481827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you buy ten monitors < 1321951599 38840 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no just one < 1321951609 722897 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you play it with a keyboard < 1321951617 216437 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this is amazing < 1321951622 661659 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do single CPUs run multiple threads? < 1321951636 258860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: cpus aren't people < 1321951641 237300 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant reliably save register state < 1321951650 608505 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're a bad person < 1321951653 268408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1321951654 182268 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he basically kills the other guys base /after his base is gone/ with /workers/ < 1321951664 919237 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and then has a flying unit that finished off the other buildings < 1321951671 602789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321951756 550124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to watch one of Deewiant's i guess??? < 1321951759 6825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh so many < 1321951803 984260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant what's the best video < 1321951806 277442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the viedos < 1321951908 494020 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not showering is Ruining E-Sports (self.starcraft) < 1321951910 768899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :starcraft < 1321951958 849078 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, enjoying the Korean national sport I see. < 1321951960 693794 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I dunno, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01CTAzgTuKI is new and seems like it's not an entirely shitty game, try that < 1321951995 349635 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, another zerg protoss < 1321952014 224895 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I avoided the PvPs and ZvZs because they'd probably be boring < 1321952018 284411 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he < 1321952019 229877 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they made terran underpowered because in starcraft I terran was basically the best. < 1321952019 339096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt-tabbing < 1321952039 121779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough minerals < 1321952039 901833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough minerals < 1321952040 278629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough minerals < 1321952040 783414 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough minerals < 1321952040 920280 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: looks like it < 1321952040 966051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough minerals < 1321952041 513232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough minerals < 1321952047 405656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: to do WHAT??? < 1321952048 381720 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that just < 1321952050 303945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the video recorder < 1321952052 754235 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: no clue < 1321952056 131241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1321952057 651934 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: a lot of people are stupid < 1321952060 348496 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thikn that if they just spam stuff < 1321952061 369727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: me too < 1321952062 634794 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are magically better < 1321952063 817180 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: He's pressing hotkeys, you can see the icon pressed in the lower right corner < 1321952063 974156 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so-called " < 1321952068 702067 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :actions per minute" < 1321952071 709103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: but when the alt-tab dialogue pops up < 1321952072 729493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the middle < 1321952075 218409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a hotkey < 1321952084 819434 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the first minute or so < 1321952089 357930 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: people like to spam keys to keep them "warmed up" or something < 1321952091 295677 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't be bothered to find it < 1321952102 382584 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this guy is just pressing the same key a lot. < 1321952106 529408 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1321952120 936233 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the key to starcraft skillz is to have ADD < 1321952122 866728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wtf "nobody likes Quebec"! HEY Deezer doesn't represent us at all! Please dissociate us from this fucktard. < 1321952123 7759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1321952125 591650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1321952129 424454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive entered another world < 1321952139 846507 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so yeah /watching/ the beginning of a starcraft game is really boring. < 1321952142 787131 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you haven't noticed < 1321952149 788671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i just skip to the middle :P < 1321952159 69149 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, might miss something < 1321952164 551871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im already missing everything < 1321952167 635090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by way of having no idea what's going on < 1321952180 224142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wait is there any actual space involve < 1321952180 545029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1321952185 475209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's grass that's so < 1321952186 428527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unspacelike < 1321952193 349142 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's like floating space colony maps < 1321952202 137459 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's it. < 1321952223 215862 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: The idea is that in complicated situations the player with a higher APM will have an advantage (assuming a fairly equal situation otherwise), and it's easier to keep your APM high by doing stuff quickly right from the start instead of speeding up only when necessary < 1321952236 425621 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I disagree with that perspective < 1321952238 460743 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand the idea. < 1321952255 906306 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do you disagree < 1321952264 466005 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: higher APM = advantage always < 1321952269 645488 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess staying active makes sense. < 1321952271 339144 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not always < 1321952272 881324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this guy can almost certainly type faster than me < 1321952277 544584 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are they only good at pressing the same key repeatedly < 1321952284 719199 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he's not typing anything < 1321952289 498159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but he's < 1321952290 497903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pressing keys < 1321952291 186863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots < 1321952291 232723 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: as far as words < 1321952295 947410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh those whispers are < 1321952296 215314 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I dunno what's up with that. < 1321952298 506333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a voice saying not enough energy < 1321952303 415355 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1321952307 488473 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1321952310 503821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a creepy ghost baby < 1321952312 435250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying not enough energy < 1321952354 106635 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :man he really likes spamming spawn larva all the time. < 1321952360 477014 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: In most cases, you only need like 30-40 APM to do everything necessary; but when you're fighting three battles at once and want to macro at the same time, the guy with the higher APM will mismicro less and macro better < 1321952360 595232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough energy < 1321952360 796633 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough energy < 1321952361 7379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough energy < 1321952361 264203 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the "not enough energy"s < 1321952361 380283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough energy < 1321952439 709000 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: those giant tentacle things are actually buildings < 1321952443 474357 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like defensive turrets. < 1321952453 729543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a strange game kallisti. < 1321952508 480158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: is this meant to be interesting 8 and a half minutes in < 1321952548 143409 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1321952552 604665 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1321952554 422410 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I mean < 1321952556 688228 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's when it gets interesting < 1321952559 259132 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1321952560 793284 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is around that time. < 1321952594 180216 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the focus early game is to efficienctly use minerals and have a quick build order while planning some kind of opening move. < 1321952640 245029 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy is pretty insanely fast. < 1321952647 439915 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :when not spamming keys < 1321952693 517031 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That guy isn't very good compared to the average pro level < 1321952718 776799 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is because professional starcraft people aren't actually mortal men. < 1321952724 826559 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: isn't he some kind of strarrararcraft celebrity i seem to remember seeing < 1321952725 677768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that name < 1321952730 168508 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes < 1321952735 37118 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit likes him < 1321952754 657801 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oshi < 1321952759 511824 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHITS GOING DOWN DAWG < 1321952783 203006 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he is a pro, just not a very good one. < 1321952793 259979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1321952830 221091 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah he's got way too many resources < 1321952834 617098 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be turned into death things. < 1321952850 316520 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's maxed starting at around 12 mins < 1321952865 368293 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see... < 1321952880 83013 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :still he could spawn probably like 50 spore colonies < 1321952885 292612 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever they're called now. < 1321952891 482793 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1321952911 122179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any videos of insanely good koreans being incomprehensible, i have this kind of mythologised mental image of starcraft < 1321952916 643522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can vaguely see things moving about coherently < 1321952919 316298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this doesn't really rteg < 1321952922 852624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: these maps are ujst fucking backgrounds < 1321952925 227637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those walking guys < 1321952929 280144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just walked over vacuum < 1321952940 397048 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they're probably air units... < 1321952945 839954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUTT HEY RE WALKING < 1321952949 710035 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1321952951 875465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Butt: Hey re: walking < 1321952956 874837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: it was at 9 minutes or something < 1321952959 688321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i paused it for a while < 1321953000 38596 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: blue walking things? < 1321953008 868840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was more impressed by the volume and variety of farts. One of them even smelled exactly what I ate for lunch 10 minutes later which made it a little bit of a surreal experience." < 1321953010 444791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comment in the thread < 1321953010 885832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not showering is Ruining E-Sports (self.starcraft) < 1321953031 265649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: i think green? complicated game. < 1321953033 640337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :complicated world. < 1321953046 638437 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh do they move really slow? < 1321953072 520472 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think those are overlords and they fly very slowly. < 1321953074 545663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what slow is in this world... < 1321953075 615046 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :they hover overhead < 1321953077 315240 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they kinda just < 1321953079 863364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jogged over a little gap < 1321953087 679873 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the green < 1321953088 467627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :swarms < 1321953090 920266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of joggers < 1321953094 834960 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they float < 1321953100 758871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: huge congregation at 11:57-11:59 < 1321953103 829402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1321953104 739791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaboom < 1321953123 609687 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1321953128 294626 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no those are flying things < 1321953129 152406 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are mutalisks, they fly. < 1321953134 530145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FLY WITH WALKING ANIMATION < 1321953138 159380 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAZY ANIMATORS LAZY!! < 1321953140 844449 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fly with flapping wings animation < 1321953235 901439 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they're green because he has them selected < 1321953248 116834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :their sprites looked green too but ok < 1321953275 638852 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes he's green < 1321953277 988053 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's his player color < 1321953281 531082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1321953291 315610 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :players are color coded all pretty like < 1321953306 20667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: who's THE BEST at starcraft.......... < 1321953330 272838 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such clearly-defined thing < 1321953330 318137 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: this guy basically just hits and runs with mutalisks the whole game while protoss builds a massive death force. < 1321953366 631959 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: who's...... #1 < 1321953391 92502 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such clearly-defined thing < 1321953407 110702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: who's richest???? < 1321953410 168131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who has < 1321953412 650198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most starcraft ladies < 1321953413 881383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :????????? < 1321953415 271082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :work with me here < 1321953436 463018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough resources ;) < 1321953436 671530 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough resources ;) < 1321953436 891870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough resources ;) < 1321953481 119347 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll plug the Swedes and say that Naniwa is among the best right now < 1321953481 695332 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I haven't see any other offensive units besides mutalisks < 1321953496 507123 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some zerglings I think? < 1321953503 873555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is sc2 much different from sc1 < 1321953504 773427 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1321953505 629403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from being like < 1321953506 482762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :prettier < 1321953514 512361 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: strategy is pretty drastically different < 1321953522 899816 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still some basic stuff remains < 1321953528 9026 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops they got to his core thing!!!! < 1321953529 366771 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :same terminology is pretty much applicable. < 1321953530 766338 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead < 1321953567 340945 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they added some new gameplay mechanics < 1321953573 339548 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example the gold minerals which give you more shit < 1321953582 711425 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the towers which let you see through fog of war a long distance < 1321953588 955191 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for getting a heads up on attacks < 1321953597 887860 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have units that can scale cliffs. < 1321953632 585069 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was not previously possible unless they were air units < 1321953645 263089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jump units < 1321953687 896765 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, reapers are terran ground infatnry with jetpacks. they're very mobile, can jump up and down cliffs, and have special bombs they use when attacking buildings < 1321953691 353856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :his password is quite short. < 1321953694 999041 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're good at raiding enemies bases. < 1321953700 499233 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i wonder if i could < 1321953701 994458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the mini image < 1321953705 453987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to find out what keys he pressed < 1321953750 257984 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: try < 1321953764 125982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1321953768 88931 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1321954096 7741 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-211.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321954101 759833 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-206-169.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321954191 133994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: something about joke and not being stupid < 1321954233 159819 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, in #haskell ? I just had a brain failure, is all < 1321954241 64922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no, i meant the whole < 1321954246 468587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : tutmirleiden, this chat is not, strictly speaking, a part of the tutorial < 1321954250 261777 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : However, it does link to there, which may make it look like it is < 1321954329 548321 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I didn't mean to imply that he's an idiot. But I do think that the way it's set up may give people the impression that the chat is specific to tryhaskell < 1321954332 517684 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of finding out keys pressed, this -> http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~shmat/courses/cs380s/zhuang.pdf <- was a thing; it's old as anything now, of course; but still, unsupervised and all that. < 1321954371 660311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this video has both video AND audio < 1321954376 837484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRACTICALLY DONE < 1321954381 809864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pentium IV 3.0G" < 1321954386 837164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :w hat < 1321954514 65954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : thanks mr elliot < 1321954515 915844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks mr elliot < 1321954712 870200 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dr Elliott. < 1321954718 69489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Elliot < 1321954953 553768 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drelliot < 1321954964 292076 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drilliot. < 1321954997 891831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliot < 1321955307 576903 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :El-Jot, the lesser-known cousin of Superman. < 1321955386 365718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the big money fight has drawn the shoporo < 1321955386 410956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :od dosens of companies in the entertainment < 1321955386 469908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :industry as well as attorneys gnnerals on < 1321955386 515231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :states, who fear the fild shading softwate < 1321955386 515403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will encourage illegal acyivitt, srem the < 1321955387 312335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :grosth of small arrists and lead to lost < 1321955389 335011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cobs and dimished sales tas revenue. < 1321956167 284369 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looked up: how to make elliott mad
< 1321956184 681815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googled for:
< 1321956568 825368 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1321956596 894669 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: help nothing appears < 1321956600 991983 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you google for: < 1321957568 389422 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321957624 234547 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321958526 215763 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1321959702 263673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321960191 706231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1321960209 451022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1321960255 144898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the argument between HP and Oracle? < 1321960270 292417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, Oracle have accused HP of paying Intel to keep maintaining Itanium < 1321960273 300138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1321960307 546984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're probably upset about this because they have to keep their Itanium support contracts with HP up < 1321960322 908791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the typical reaction from everyone else is, "well, why /can't/ HP pay Intel for Itanium?" < 1321960477 526605 :Lymee!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1321960508 226163 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1321960973 913818 :Lymee!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan NICK :Lymia < 1321961532 200678 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Is Series 2 any good? < 1321961550 766040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, but not nearly as. < 1321961562 44499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Music 2000 episode is good; also the computer one as I recall. < 1321961567 537487 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1321961602 295825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it's really spotty on YouTube, I just bought the DVD. < 1321961605 791627 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not on that video website, as far as I could tell. < 1321961608 793087 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1321961616 126433 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION might do that.
< 1321961619 279791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYwPD7ARJ0Y is... the first ten minutes. < 1321961638 220857 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose supporting a noble endeavor such as this is worth something, after all. < 1321961707 336443 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NON-USA FROMAT. :-( < 1321961726 576191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh please, don't they sell universal DVD players or whatnot? < 1321961732 752180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just rip it or something. < 1321961736 281873 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose libdvdcss plays it just as well, but still. < 1321961754 807234 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: As I mentioned, I don't even *own* a television. What good would a DVD player do me? < 1321961777 376734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1321961781 15759 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I much prefer to have my MPEG streams delivered to me over TCP/IP over insertkmchere. < 1321961781 322654 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote DVD players < 1321961788 839426 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :29) after all, what are DVD players for? < 1321961811 491762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a surprisingly early quote < 1321961836 379340 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if there's any context worth knowing.
< 1321961844 433693 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: most DVD players are reasonably easy to hack to play foreign DVDs < 1321961865 599118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :typically it's included as an easter egg, because the ability to do that promotes sales of the DVD player, yet they aren't allowed to officially know about it < 1321961871 43433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321961877 284756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall looking it up on some website once < 1321961878 594474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's like < 1321961881 66914 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hmm, there's no US-valid Series 2 DVD for sale as far as I can tell. < 1321961882 431902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OPEN CLOSE EJECT MENU 3 4 4 EJECT CLOSE < 1321961891 985933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's because we're racist. < 1321961924 382502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, it's typically that sort of thing < 1321961946 782449 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where ais523 < 1321961947 19053 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ais523. < 1321961969 160403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: but I'm here < 1321962211 887631 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hey, I haven't seen _Ghosts_. < 1321962216 362775 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I had but I hadn't. < 1321962221 587749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lucky you! < 1321962228 226167 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like a free new episode was created just for me. < 1321962229 413506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the most bizarre episode of the first series. < 1321962282 492277 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pig's milk. Pilk. < 1321962333 622411 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spider milk, silk? < 1321962367 542608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1321962686 299110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's XKCD is really impressive < 1321962690 991481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not funny, but it's not meant to be < 1321962708 635350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of those ones where he just got a stupidly large number of statistics and made a drawing out of them < 1321962710 727859 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday's! < 1321962714 881853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, OK < 1321962716 755005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's today's too < 1321962722 251402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321962903 98825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume people don't actually read xkcd unless they're linked to it < 1321962913 817450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that "today's xkcd" is a good enough link for most people to follow < 1321963925 166837 :Slereah!~butt@ANantes-259-1-188-56.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1321963968 347978 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-244-80.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1321964309 50472 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321965129 175606 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1321965470 399867 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1321965683 264211 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321965924 213186 :pkzip!~a@109.160.202.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321965972 397109 :pkzip!~a@109.160.202.70 PART :#esoteric < 1321966791 864759 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:33:04: realtime games and networking kind of don't work < 1321966810 373920 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thing is, describing AII as a dogfighting game makes it sound too fast-paced. < 1321966821 956787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1321966831 354580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I go into that more a bit later. < 1321966838 616870 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't really see it working except as a slower-paced thing where you need to plan your course. < 1321967458 668179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this an existing game, or one you're planning to write? < 1321967502 701114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Latter. < 1321967520 960368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, are those lowercase ls or capital Is? < 1321967528 191029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capital. < 1321967529 21075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AlAIAlAIA < 1321967532 379460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is, by the look of it < 1321967540 638210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's short for Asteroids II, which is really going to have to be replaced by a proper name. < 1321967545 181590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we'll just call it... aii. < 1321967553 842150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two letters are marginally different in this font, enough to tell them apart with a comparison, but not to be sure about them without one < 1321967592 909150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a difference of one vertical pixel exactly in length < 1321968251 461529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK *seriously* what is it with the Runge-Kutta methods. < 1321968287 580748 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything I can find says they're for ODEs, and yet I've only seen them given for first derivatives. < 1321968308 880875 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: /queryyyyyyyyyyyy < 1321968325 373464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the Runge-Kutta methods secret. < 1321968336 154522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes but actually no. < 1321968337 613330 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm seeing if anyone in the channel knows what's up with that. < 1321968344 512658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1321968347 158842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't about Runge-Kutta :P < 1321968509 203825 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1321968934 330857 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to release DMT from my pineal gland (assuming that's actually what happens when you dream) < 1321968951 213342 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as my body enters a state of partial paralysis < 1321968996 420623 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321969035 227068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy kallisti............. < 1321969047 232744 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to enjoy kallisti! < 1321969112 707804 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321969873 261514 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh no, I think I just decided that Crawl-style viewpoint movement is the best < 1321969918 890126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? it's really disorienting < 1321969927 478936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it depends on the game, I guess < 1321969938 829488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a horror shooter sort of game, that sort of disorienting viewpoint works great < 1321969950 973899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yep, but the situation here is a display 20 times as large as the terminals Crawl is usually played in :P < 1321969962 927785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, I suppose most Crawl players use tiles since it's so popular on Windows...) < 1321970058 837676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and I think the disorientation at that scale can be eliminated simply by making the "camera" lag behind the player a little bit < 1321970081 152919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., while moving you're off-center in whatever direction you're travelling in, and when you slow down the camera smoothly scrolls into the center < 1321970140 560653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps < 1321970229 501159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (the context is AII :P) < 1321970639 126558 :myndz\!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1321971819 466847 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 help < 1321972364 792473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: why do you keep making random demands of me without context? < 1321972772 730608 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it turned out that makes sense, although now I'm wrestling with the cover for the PCIe card. < 1321972817 678598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: While the motherboard collects... < 1321972818 777237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STATIC? < 1321972857 952036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: things collect static from moving or having things move across them, not from staying still < 1321972877 615882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You don't understand, in Scotland static is magic. < 1321972891 399362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's caused by humidity, flourescent lights, and nearby microwaves. < 1321972916 540145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm now more or less convinced that the latest batch of spambots work by taking a legitimate page on the subject and running it through a translation service twice < 1321972956 718813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got reasonably good at reading machine-translated English (it's a /very/ valuable language to know in today's world), and they seem to be writing in that < 1321973001 776638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm mostly over the depression, too, even though Feather didn't really help < 1321973142 802506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I'm busy trying to track down a bug in this ICA compiler < 1321973160 380845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's showing up as an off-by-one, but I'm not convinced that it actually /is/ that; I suspect it's actually an off-by-n where n=1 by chance < 1321973163 176037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who knows < 1321973532 682989 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1321973939 432187 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I have discovered a horror even worse than the PSU cables: the motherboard/case connectors. < 1321974035 583125 :derrik!~xix@194.150.65.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321974048 814861 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes there's even no indication which way around the leds go. < 1321974863 728574 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Example plox? < 1321974870 335587 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of spambots) < 1321974886 25540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: a moment < 1321974945 134727 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321974954 836400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of us in the website that were having success ended up applying some type of fasting into their diet. A primary though ended up being that going barefoot didn't seem healthy. I actually appeared to be within impression that we had to be feeding on every 3 periods or maybe my own body would definitely come in for you to disease mode. < 1321974978 991211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ^ < 1321975004 470462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't feel like a markov bot; the sentences have an internal logic, but the word choice is completely bizarre < 1321975033 710627 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1321975033 899905 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321975071 498358 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :The IOCCC is back on! http://www.ioccc.org | http://esolangs.org/ | Wwe had to be feeding on every 3 periods or maybe my own body would definitely come in for you to disease mode. | half-add er? I ardly knew er! | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1321975093 237749 :derrik!~xix@194.150.65.68 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got zero day all day but its specific to my paycheck so i ain't selling that. Job is shitty enough. < 1321975102 876996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "Wwe"? < 1321975109 534206 :derrik!~xix@194.150.65.68 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(quoting my fav discussion bot) < 1321975128 409378 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :The IOCCC is back on! http://www.ioccc.org | http://esolangs.org/ | We had to be feeding on every 3 periods or maybe my own body would definitely come in for you to disease mode. | half-add er? I ardly knew er! | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1321975132 920643 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You didn't see that. < 1321975142 846900 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Chat with us. < 1321975143 597060 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: biscuit, and the remembrance of that sacrifice the short term for the long term, because they won't be your friends even without it, you can't... such a fine day. an entire barrel can easily be a dealbreaker! < 1321975155 662524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: T-Rex! < 1321975156 187640 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: t-rex, i don't know, a cute little skirt, and thus, it no longer represents you. for whatever he or she or it or at better jobs as they come up all the time, and when they do, there's no moment of laughing realization, so you can't ever do a video epitaph for us all will read? < 1321975173 513023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: coincidence? or is fungot doing some sort of word-copying? < 1321975173 705691 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is that a fad? chinese so that my computer could think about sex, and that would be all it would take to change a lightbulb. the light turned on and on about order versus freedom, the giddy joy, t-rex < 1321975182 801910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably engineered coincidence < 1321975228 142358 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If it's in any way affected by the input, it's not intentional. < 1321975247 80910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: indeed; I suspect it was elliott setting up for a likely coincidence < 1321975256 84688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does fungot do its randomization, btw? some sort of ?-based RNG? < 1321975256 206356 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i, too, will take what i can get a little of that back with them, dromiceiomimus < 1321975305 72593 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There's a loop which does "4*, then ?-based 0/1/2/3+" a couple of times, I think maybe 28 bits' worth or something. < 1321975318 825944 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not quite that many. < 1321975320 534566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's surprisingly sensible < 1321975390 75071 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one hardcoded [0..15] RNG done with a sequence of a ?-powered 0/4/8/c+ and a 0/1/2/3+, too. It's used for determining when to stop or some-such. < 1321975414 314438 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I have some iron-rich blood. < 1321975418 785577 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My blood tastes exactly like rust. < 1321975448 421049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: blood is kind-of heavy in iron because a transition metal's needed to bind to the oxygen < 1321975480 89664 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that :P < 1321975501 527690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, blood scientist < 1321975514 444291 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better that than just a blood dabbler. < 1321975519 763692 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1321975530 593286 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :The IOCCC is back on! http://www.ioccc.org | http://esolangs.org/ | We had to be feeding on every 3 periods or maybe my own body would definitely come in for you to disease mode (don't dabble in blood). | half-add er? I ardly knew er! | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1321975539 526531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1321975547 713802 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1321975558 887679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Occasionally one must curtail the jocularity of the hoi polloi. < 1321975562 283995 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :The IOCCC is back on! http://www.ioccc.org | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1321975576 250364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need that IOCCC notice until it isn't, I think; it's potentially important < 1321975588 29314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the topic notice wrt the Wolfram prize thing earned be a moderate amount of money < 1321975595 745013 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need it there until we no longer need it, I think. < 1321975598 400648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, about a year's salary, that's quite a bit but not lifechanging) < 1321975602 135620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, and do we really want to repeat THAT mistake? ;D < 1321975620 517334 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize he'd learned that in an #esoteric /topic X-D < 1321975690 684237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: he talked to me about it for about five minutes in the third person < 1321975700 519709 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i was like "oh, is the winner in here?" "yes" "is the winner... you?" "yes" < 1321975758 615098 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If that's the case, then "the topic notice wrt the Wolfram prize thing [did /not/] [earn him] a moderate amount of money" < 1321975783 3132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What :P < 1321975842 346161 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: He said that the topic notice earned him money, that implies that he learned about the competition from the topic notice. < 1321975872 545870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, he did. < 1321975875 47206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1321975877 261036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was after he won. < 1321975888 945972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then after I won, I strung people along a bit < 1321975896 918744 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, I thought you were making a wholly different point X-D < 1321975925 177171 :derrik!~xix@194.150.65.68 PART :#esoteric < 1321976161 637039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You should MAKE MUSIC FOR AII!!!!!!11111111111111111111111 < 1321976167 595639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :111111II1111111II < 1321976229 611238 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :AII? < 1321976245 91428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps you should fix my creative dead end with the DNA Maze level music < 1321976254 761182 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNA Maze? < 1321976258 24142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think is great, but I've got stuck at the end of the chorus < 1321976263 867461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: how have you never heard of DNA Maze? < 1321976277 478848 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? < 1321976282 21209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523\unfoog < 1321976287 546755 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: indeed, how < 1321976293 190866 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a regular of this channel, right? < 1321976304 315673 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: AII = Asteroids II! EXPANSION IS COMPLETELY UNOFFICIAL. < 1321976309 523371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it would get us: SUED. < 1321976319 952278 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: Yes, but I'm also a regular of the USA, whose timezones are somewhat distinct from yours. < 1321976326 629677 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, the USA is a person) < 1321976347 94843 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Asteroids II Extended Edition, aka AIIEE, one presumes. < 1321976375 389727 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well, it's a computer game that I've written < 1321976383 650857 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the main single player mode around 90% finished < 1321976386 185396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: To give a not entirely unhelpful answer, it's a Newtonian-physics space-based real-timeish physics strategy game with... sort of dogfight elements and ... a lot of orbital transfers ... < 1321976409 297745 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: where "it" = AII, not DNA Maze < 1321976417 469463 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you confused me for a bit there < 1321976437 420925 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Newtonian physics are for losers, relativity would make asteroids so much "better" < 1321976466 10850 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are? Is? < 1321976475 177758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Basically it's a buncha spaceships vs. a bunch a' other spaceships in 2D space under Newtonian physics with a bunch of masses orbiting each other and shit and the strategy is based around complicated planning, orbital transfers, and physics-warping shit like "make-time-go-slower-inside-this-bubble bubble" :P < 1321976481 222282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the NEUTRINO GUN. < 1321976500 699361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK it is seriously a much better idea than it sounds I've just been avoiding the term "dogfight" because Phantom__Hoover quite rightly pointed out it makes things sound way too fast and brute-forcey :P < 1321976527 533261 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: Current state of musicx? < 1321976557 387835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Also it theoretically will have a TOTALLY NEAT vector graphics aesthetic?? Also ragdoll physicsy things?? Gravity?? Black holes?? Network multiplayer?? < 1321976562 969661 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'm mostly composing it myself; I have a few level musics done which are nothing special, and a main menu theme which I really like but repeats too quickly < 1321976568 512137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DO YOU LOVE DNA MAZE MORE THAN AII ;__; < 1321976584 87671 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Dood, I'm goin' back and forth here. < 1321976586 833180 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GIMME BREAK < 1321976590 501362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No you're abandoning us. With hate. < 1321976590 688931 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because it isn't completely vaporware? < 1321976592 702329 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I totally write game music. < 1321976601 265401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: Neither is AII < 1321976610 845192 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how many lines of code does it have? < 1321976621 554916 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does it have an indentation discipline all to itself? < 1321976628 578528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno how long gravity.lisp is, but it's been worked on for about... two years now :P < 1321976642 618147 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Gregor: elliott's actually taken to defensively asking me "is it indented like DNA Maze?" whenever I threaten to send him code) < 1321976650 337956 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in C, at least) < 1321976658 789956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically Phantom__Hoover is handling the hard PHYSICS MATH and all three of us are bending it into a game :P < 1321976670 334674 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...................... < 1321976678 619935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1321976707 487570 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main(void) { < 1321976713 660602 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : printf("Hello, world!\n"); < 1321976714 280067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what Gregor's megaellipsising at :P < 1321976717 70642 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : return 0; } < 1321976720 867068 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ais proceeds to paste in his entire program) < 1321976728 439252 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that's a simple example < 1321976733 748914 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321976743 577165 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, terrible then. < 1321976744 785992 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indentation is like Python when seen from the left, and all the braces go at end of line < 1321976770 339386 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's designed to annoy all indentation fanboys equaly < 1321976773 390735 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*equally < 1321976782 365313 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps I should make it use 5-space indents just to keep everyone unhappy < 1321976796 118037 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 1-space 1-tab (in that order) would do that job even better, I guess < 1321976806 213938 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 3-space 1-tab in that order < 1321976809 589321 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How 'bout using vertical tabs, and just making sure that your editor displays them as tabs. < 1321976829 352861 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Have I mentioned that DNA Maze's indentation style also replaces sequences of 8 spaces with tabs? < 1321976832 987374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite using a 2-space indentation? < 1321976840 20724 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh right, that < 1321976841 524047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now ais523\unfoog will start the Tab Idiocy again. < 1321976850 122428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brace yourselves, semicolon yourselves. < 1321976853 740190 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: we've changed from Netbeans to Eclipse in the labs down here < 1321976870 941872 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Eclipse is producing code with mixed tabs and spaces, with tab != 8 < 1321976877 417123 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's basically impossible to mark as a result < 1321976951 615277 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, OK, I'm used to reading badly-indented code, so it's just /annoying/ to mark < 1321977037 454640 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just run everything through indent -kr :P < 1321977086 380546 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: oh right, I mean to do that on my IOCCC submission < 1321977106 666054 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :astyle makes such a beautiful mess of it (some lines end up indented so far that they wrap the entire screen in my terminal, even if I maximise it) < 1321977253 251140 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the results of running indent on it are arguably better than the original, though, although still far from optimal < 1321977258 34570 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: Feel like giving us clues about your IOCCC submission? :P < 1321977267 820600 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've told you what it does already < 1321977275 119307 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a single-transferable-vote counter that stores data using stack smashing < 1321977394 621897 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how easy is it to use Emacs as a batch reindenter? < 1321978329 378399 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :immoral < 1321978334 748844 :immoral!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1321979119 921526 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PART #esoteric :"Hug~♪" < 1321979298 509736 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohyeah < 1321979589 632864 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1321979765 21471 :FireFly!firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1321979827 316253 :FireFly!firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1321979863 519470 :FireFly!firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1321979863 564721 :FireFly!firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1321980193 57324 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321980793 149321 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog, OK now the computer is not actually doing anything when plugged in and the power button is pressed. < 1321980806 218349 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, literally nothing happens. < 1321980815 259617 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: is the power supply switched on? < 1321980818 460609 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1321980825 825178 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's switched on at the plug, too. < 1321980830 67784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: It died of static. < 1321980830 739413 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP. < 1321980832 201480 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the power button connected? < 1321980848 498137 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried putting the power button wires in both orientations. < 1321980885 536291 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, in that case ask someone who's actually assembled a computer (i.e. not me) < 1321980902 898670 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mobo has a test button and led on it. IIRC for testing that the memory modules work, but obviously you could use it to check that power + memory modules work < 1321980910 663744 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your mobo has something similar? < 1321980923 79710 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, I have a completely fucking useless paperweight and I'm getting pinballed around. < 1321980925 644125 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: is the processor hot? < 1321980932 663142 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, does it smell of burnt silicon? < 1321980934 757700 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1321980940 659026 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literally nothing at all happens. < 1321980943 449245 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can figure out if the processor is hot by touching it < 1321980948 968649 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: do you have a multimeter? < 1321980955 971108 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, of course I don't! < 1321980959 473302 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1321980972 531108 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the problem's probably with the power supply or the power button if the power supply fan doesn't spin up < 1321980975 975008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Phantom__Hoover: is the processor hot? also, does it smell of burnt silicon? [...] you can figure out if the processor is hot by touching it < 1321980978 878656 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :733) Phantom__Hoover: is the processor hot? also, does it smell of burnt silicon? [...] you can figure out if the processor is hot by touching it < 1321980991 453447 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: who are you poking fun at there? < 1321980991 776844 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that funny at all? < 1321980999 483394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: nobody < 1321981005 470160 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the "I don't know" was the funny bit there < 1321981020 382541 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1321981024 562694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the first two lines are amusingly specific in their prognostication, and the third is amusing in its obviousness < 1321981041 921627 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the funny line is really the " I don't know." < 1321981059 893950 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION disagrees, and doesn't think you'd be saying that if ais523\unfoog hadn't said it.
< 1321981067 796415 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I turn on the cable at the socket, turn on the PSU, press the power cable, and... nothing. < 1321981068 127013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The transition to the third line is ruined by adding that one. < 1321981083 121480 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did notice it was a bit weird in the original context < 1321981087 974621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: You press the button, not the cable. hth < 1321981090 767641 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: how do you press a cable anyway? < 1321981100 26277 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Button, dammit. < 1321981100 637495 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks this will calm down Phantom__Hoover immeasurably.
< 1321981112 390238 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: anyway you should really get a multimeter tomorrow or such. They are cheap really. Don't know exact prices, but I seen ones below 100 SEK. They should be good enough for just checking if you have a voltage where you should in the PSU connector < 1321981121 510258 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'd have added it as PH: is the processor hot? [...] I don't know you can figure out if the processor is hot by touching it < 1321981127 353318 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the abbreviations expanded < 1321981131 2617 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: that is, standby power < 1321981131 750716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: hmm, tempting < 1321981134 582404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: I'll review it tomorrow < 1321981137 504264 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How am I meant to touch it with the cooler in the way? < 1321981140 322201 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321981148 517259 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I once bought two multimeters for £5 < 1321981157 22001 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: don't know what that is in SEK < 1321981164 343293 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Touch the cooler? < 1321981166 324648 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be, y'know, hot. < 1321981168 391665 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: well, you'd have to open the case, which is a sensible thing to do anyway when diagnosing computer problems < 1321981173 60231 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, that's a good point < 1321981183 831463 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole point of a cooler is to be at the same temperature as the processor < 1321981184 349543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Anyway, if the PSU fan doesn't go on, like ais523\unfoog said, it won't be a CPU problem. < 1321981199 259676 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming the PSU has a fan, which is likely but not guaranteed < 1321981202 18051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: So... doublecheck everything from the power button to the socket to the PSU? < 1321981204 671939 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it is then either a mobo problem or PSU problem < 1321981207 329595 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: It does. < 1321981207 375460 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PSU does, in fact, have a PSU. < 1321981212 455406 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean a fan. < 1321981217 320910 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: you need a really low power PSU to find one without a fan < 1321981218 381588 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My PSU doesn't have a PSU. < 1321981221 196927 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: like a laptop one < 1321981221 305961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Not true. < 1321981230 322731 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There are 350W, 400W PSUs without fans. < 1321981240 65295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're just very rare. < 1321981253 539833 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I count <400W as really low power for a desktop < 1321981256 195070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the Zalman TNN thing is 420W, but it's part of the heatpipe system so it doesn't really count. < 1321981257 841021 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the PSU fan is pretty much the one thing that is almost certainly going to be correctly wired to the PSU < 1321981259 252265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You said "like a laptop one". < 1321981259 553814 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have 750 W < 1321981271 945966 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 750W is over the top for just about everything. < 1321981274 393185 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, those are generally below 100 W. So they qualify < 1321981284 329900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: (A -> B) =/= (B -> A) < 1321981286 506270 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know people who had rigs that needed more than 750 W to run < 1321981306 481226 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what does -> mean there? (I'm assuming =/= means ≠) < 1321981311 780878 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway it gives some room to expand in. 80+ gold certified, so it is reasonably efficient even at non-max load < 1321981315 624076 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: Logical implication. < 1321981320 518306 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1321981323 141103 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1321981339 734034 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also, 1000W is quite small for an electric heater < 1321981360 339850 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and far too small for an electric oven < 1321981368 348457 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway, I have never seen a PSU intended for a full sized desktop (mid tower or larger) that didn't have a fan < 1321981368 747922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Electric oven computer. < 1321981372 588405 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it might happen < 1321981375 377391 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just never seen it < 1321981390 341333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They're just not popular, that's all. < 1321981397 731857 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321981411 571229 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... chances are, unless you use a laptop, your PSU has a fan < 1321981411 745068 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you know why they aren't popular? I assume they would be for the same reason as, say, flatscreens < 1321981426 229091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: You need good cooling on the rest of your system, case fans and the like. < 1321981431 135464 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: And they don't really scale to higher powers. < 1321981435 629742 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1321981436 620226 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: what? Are you suggesting flat monitors are not popular ? < 1321981445 224552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Are you illiterate? < 1321981447 468186 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is very helpful guys thanks. < 1321981454 494954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I gave you advice; take it. < 1321981460 928971 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what? < 1321981462 410680 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I anti-missed a "not" < 1321981468 937744 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom__Hoover: So... doublecheck everything from the power button to the socket to the PSU? < 1321981478 277170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: It's more productive than complaining that nobody's helping you on IRC... < 1321981502 520186 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: probably the issue is with the PSU. Since the PSU fan didn't turn on. It might be with the mobo, or the button in theory as well. < 1321981514 201971 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be something connected incorrectly < 1321981539 944847 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: and I assume you set the PSU for the right voltage, if it had such a switch? Mine autodetect between UK and US voltages < 1321981540 795388 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: an "n't"? I can't see anywhere to put a "not" to make that sentence not sound completely unlike me and still have the desired meaning < 1321981549 233762 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: *EU and US voltages? < 1321981557 629492 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :err yeah < 1321981558 669905 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it has a switch like that. < 1321981562 229488 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321981590 479787 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old UK standard of 240 isn't really used much any more, most devices marketed for Europe have a 225-245 voltage range to cover both UK 240 and standard 230 < 1321981596 999033 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: in fact I think it supports from 90 V to 260 V or some such. Which is kind of larger than required < 1321981609 783599 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: most PSUs do, unless they're specifically advertised not to < 1321981617 825164 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or laptop PSUs < 1321981623 371234 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: Sweden used to have 220 V before we switched to 230 V < 1321981632 739273 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one on the desktop here at work, the switch is a slidy piece of metal the same colour as the case < 1321981640 347680 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has ~230V engraved on it < 1321981650 650414 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :same colour eh, the ones I seen were usually red < 1321981712 665855 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321981716 484893 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if you put it at 110 V and you used it on 230 V, then chances are your PSU is not alive anymore (hopefully just a fuse). Probably nothing else broke. < 1321982066 127200 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: anyway, even if the CPU was dead your PSU would probably turn on its fan. < 1321982074 946890 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for a short period of time < 1321982085 11381 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1321982235 229633 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahh, found the problem. < 1321982251 145746 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: What was it. < 1321982253 762693 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it the polarity flow. < 1321982257 753552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were the neutrinos going too fast. < 1321982258 927626 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The power on switch has a second connection in the front of the case which is disconnected and isn't mentioned in the manual at all. < 1321982267 357697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the secret connection. < 1321982286 267697 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Now* I've graduated to the monitor showing no signs of life whatsoever. < 1321982334 53471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Did you plug it in. < 1321982336 421956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monitors need power too. < 1321982345 695647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, all my advice will be this irritating.) < 1321982386 891621 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I checked for any additional power buttons; there were none. < 1321982405 650131 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Now* I've graduated to the monitor showing no signs of life whatsoever. <-- are you using the on board video (if that exists)? < 1321982408 713305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: The monitor has a power button. < 1321982414 526713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There is no on-board video. < 1321982418 114950 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay < 1321982425 92587 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plugged it into the graphics card's DVI output (the only video output on the entire computer) using an adaptor provided by the graphics card. < 1321982425 468937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, getting the monitor to turn on seems more important. < 1321982430 729121 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Doesn't matter, get it turned on first. < 1321982438 372575 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how, there's no button. < 1321982438 817011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can work on the computer getting its images there. < 1321982439 685221 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anywhere. < 1321982440 932708 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: doesn't the graphics card have other ports? < 1321982443 476188 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Yes there is; or a switch. < 1321982458 218038 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, it has 2 DVI and a mini HDMI; the monitor has only VGA and DVI. < 1321982460 844860 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: they might hide it quite well for aesthetics < 1321982470 839769 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: use DVI only if possible < 1321982472 311137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: The "only video output" apart from an HDMI one. < 1321982475 306458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: He has a VGA cable. < 1321982484 49746 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have already told him to correct this, so don't bother. < 1321982485 444377 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: otherwise there are two types of DVI: Try the other DVI port < 1321982492 503128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR GOD'S SAKE < 1321982493 159667 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all DVI ports provide analogue as well < 1321982494 587908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NONE OF THIS WILL HELP < 1321982496 177178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNTIL Phantom__Hoover < 1321982496 852890 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TURNS < 1321982497 264521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE < 1321982497 982152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MONITOR < 1321982498 341092 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ON < 1321982499 905563 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321982536 648558 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: well I can tell you for certain there is a power button on the monitor. Look in the manual for it. Also check under the front edge < 1321982542 654652 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes they like to hide the buttons < 1321982710 491555 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321982722 708892 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: found it yet? < 1321982750 374096 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK it was a touch button for some inexplicable thing? < 1321982757 92207 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: hah that happens < 1321982764 559222 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still doesn't get a signal, of course. < 1321982773 108166 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: check the other reasons above < 1321982780 33552 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all DVI ports provide analogue < 1321982801 690139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION continues debating whether to expediate new computer purchasing to smooth AII development or whether to stay on this machine to ensure better compatibility.
< 1321982817 996080 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: you want the connector on the computer to be DVI-I or DVI-A: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DVI_Connector_Types.svg < 1321982846 522981 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321982860 824641 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's definitely one of those. < 1321982874 733054 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: is the other one that as well? In that case try to switch < 1321982880 577297 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Miffed somewhat at lack of HDMI port on monitor. < 1321982895 443675 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might work OK < 1321982896 15621 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one DVI-I and one DVI-D, one DP and one HDMI iirc < 1321982898 351048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: HDMI is irrelevant. < 1321982902 420507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just need a DVI cable. < 1321983017 518778 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait seems I have 5 connectors according to xrandr output < 1321983019 928269 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, whatever < 1321983080 427157 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: anyway, try the monitor connected to your laptop. Just in case. You will of course need to enable the extra monitor in the screen prefs < 1321983087 475055 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing continues to happen. < 1321983105 507654 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: is the monitor saying "no signal" or such when you unplug the cable? < 1321983111 933014 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :And just black screen when plugged in? < 1321983120 923449 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing at a time please. < 1321983126 758463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Skip the laptop thing. < 1321983134 279658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waste of time esp. with differing ports. < 1321983138 340260 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, probably not the monitor at fault < 1321983222 577565 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Also, check the connection of the case to the video card again. < 1321983238 994357 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the card fan definitely starts, for one thing. < 1321983245 211221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say motherboard. < 1321983246 645991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said case. < 1321983255 103092 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also check the connection to the monitor, ofc. < 1321983264 575118 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PSU's connection is fine too. < 1321983284 142306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not in question. < 1321983296 623934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The computer works, the monitor works, the two just don't work together. < 1321983298 85291 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: oh wait, what about power cables to the GPU? < 1321983301 669179 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are connected right? < 1321983306 415628 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're fine too. < 1321983308 138984 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need two of them at once < 1321983314 8261 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :because hell why not < 1321983341 409310 :mycroftiv!~ircguy@h69-128-47-242.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321983343 460242 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both of them are connected. < 1321983345 222674 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: point is, does the monitor even say "no signal" or such when unplugged. If yes and it doesn't do that when connected to the computer then the GPU is probably okay. < 1321983389 161062 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The monitor says "going into power saving mode" and goes into standby. < 1321983404 173728 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: when unplugged? Or when connected to the computer? < 1321983419 840901 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :My question is basically if it behaves *differently* when unplugged and connected to the computer. < 1321983422 917134 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When connected. < 1321983431 292876 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: and when unplugged? < 1321983447 129768 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stays on and says "No VGA Cable" < 1321983450 296990 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321983454 848751 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is promising < 1321983463 298115 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: did you reboot the computer after connecting the monitor? < 1321983477 916170 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've started it with the monitor connected, yes. < 1321983482 145506 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it might think nothing is connected. I'm not convinced there is plug-and-play during bios) < 1321983512 880129 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: tried that on both DVI ports? < 1321983522 247448 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. I can try again. < 1321983528 538835 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, can't hurt to check < 1321983529 752514 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Really check the connection in the monitor. < 1321983534 288817 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :VGA is really tough to get in. < 1321983535 69583 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that too < 1321983539 126712 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it? < 1321983545 240124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1321983548 350310 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: as long as you secure the screws there won't be a problem < 1321983553 651815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although SCART takes the cake. < 1321983557 603344 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1321983558 392315 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCART is physically impossible to plug in. < 1321983567 119378 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCART is easy to get in, just never *stays* in < 1321983570 389615 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321983580 592259 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, SCART is 70s technology. < 1321983584 378893 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm... not surprised. < 1321983586 372702 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, heh < 1321983593 133407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SCART connector first appeared on television sets in 1977. It became compulsory on all new television sets sold in France starting from January 1980.[2][3] < 1321983595 221163 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have, attached to my school desktop right now, an official Apple-branded DVI-to-DVI adapter. < 1321983607 360647 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway vga is kind of easy to know if you got in. If you managed to fasten the screws then it is in < 1321983610 41850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Not DVI-to-MiniDVI or whatever? < 1321983613 352125 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nope. < 1321983618 380085 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not even DVI-to-DVI-D or something. < 1321983618 434000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1321983625 396389 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It is a $30 patch cable. < 1321983632 467097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It's actually a 0m-1m adapter :P < 1321983634 695643 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming it has a cable. < 1321983635 557363 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it's a $30 DVI cable that's really really short. < 1321983640 195803 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wait a second, what is Apple DVI? < 1321983641 96318 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's just two identical ends right next to each other than that's amazing. < 1321983649 241119 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ... ... X_X < 1321983655 304324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Vorpal amazing? < 1321983657 671393 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, it has about an inch of cable. < 1321983670 206226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 0"-to-1" adapter! < 1321983676 493328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It ADAPTS SPACE. < 1321983677 389511 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the parsing: (Apple-branded DVI)-to-(DVI)? < 1321983677 822336 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup :P < 1321983685 677505 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Obviously not. < 1321983688 722538 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you mean Apple-branded (DVI-to-DVI) < 1321983694 306333 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well it wasn't obvious to me < 1321983697 293945 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You rarely parenthesize in the middle of hyphenated phrases X_X < 1321983699 381262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because you're dumb. < 1321983703 250016 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would they have DVI-to-DVI? < 1321983711 430684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would Gregor say that if it wasn't interesting < 1321983716 546040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, say, for being DVI-to-DVI < 1321983719 378799 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I'm back. < 1321983719 477947 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is unusual < 1321983723 211556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And therefore humorous < 1321983724 628695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1321983726 131418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humourous < 1321983726 457087 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1321983727 745257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321983738 518026 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Has it blown up yet. < 1321983822 639314 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen a good computer case (wrt putting stuff in it easily) since that old dell case I have < 1321983842 464450 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has some hinges at the front < 1321983847 288883 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :really easy to access anything inside < 1321983880 882053 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :with very nice cable routing too < 1321983918 937121 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK still a distinct lack of anything at all happening. < 1321983936 315046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Open a menu on the monitor. < 1321983938 40686 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: do you have a pc speaker connected? < 1321983939 840090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't whine, find the button/touch thing. < 1321983949 807429 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already done that. < 1321983954 265554 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the computer beep when booting? < 1321983959 690502 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Uh, pc speakers are onboard. < 1321983970 25724 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not always < 1321983972 700749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Checked monitor connection? Checked adapter connection? < 1321983976 700752 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: at least they didn't use to be < 1321983982 383086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Startin' to think you should just buy an HDMI cable, man < 1321983984 66248 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1321983985 946892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Startin' to think you should just buy a DVI cable, man < 1321983986 437401 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no and yes. < 1321983992 388701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes the worst Frfuuruuduan slips.
< 1321983995 365554 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Well, go do it then. < 1321984006 618206 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Revise to yes and yes. < 1321984037 164834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: OK, observe my official recommendation: < 1321984043 710469 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Pat yourself on the back for an assembly well done; < 1321984045 951870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Buy a DVI cable. < 1321984049 220633 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretically the VGA port on the monitor might be dead. It might be worth checking against your laptop if it has a VGA (or even better, DVI) connector < 1321984059 544321 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did that, actually; it worked fine. < 1321984067 306868 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1321984075 189601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect Phantom__Hoover's DVI ports just don't do analogue. < 1321984094 549941 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: elliott: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DVI_Connector_Types.svg <-- he said it was DVI-I iirc? < 1321984102 204844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. I don't believe him. < 1321984124 992953 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well something might be fried. I wouldn't exclude the posibility < 1321984129 768899 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibility* < 1321984153 825060 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the CPU or RAM in that case. < 1321984167 754501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Does it beep when it starts up. < 1321984197 268871 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: mine doesn't beep when booting. It will however beep using the onboard Intel HD Audio if required. < 1321984199 174889 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of weird < 1321984210 362650 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there are speakers? < 1321984220 733246 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Why would Gregor say that if it wasn't interesting" < 1321984225 592194 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Immortalized forever. < 1321984228 457532 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right there in the log. < 1321984233 510667 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1321984254 86506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: It's a PC speaker. < 1321984259 572204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes an annoying beep whether you have speakers or not. < 1321984364 303912 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There might have been < 1321984386 320240 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Dude. < 1321984388 990879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes three seconds to check. < 1321984473 649112 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it doesn't. < 1321984514 751834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. < 1321984524 619232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably fine. < 1321984529 659790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess MODERN MOBOS don't do the beeping thing any more. < 1321984545 881449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Yeah, just buy a DVI cable. < 1321984592 541256 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BtW, I can confirm that the graphics card's DVI cables are DVI-I and the monitor's unused DVI port is DVI-D. < 1321984728 352195 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You've gotta admire Phantom__Hoover's dedication to getting this VAX to run. < 1321984739 63925 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are there like 20 different kinds of DVI cable? < 1321984744 234079 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: No, there's one. < 1321984750 63434 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Buy the cheapest. < 1321984771 797176 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are 55 kinds of port? < 1321984775 75774 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*5 < 1321984780 263911 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mr Green always embrace you. < 1321984792 747489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal will explain to Phantom__Hoover how ports are designed. < 1321984818 81900 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They oh wait they are intercompatible. < 1321984841 187281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: So how loud are the fans. < 1321984866 546873 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all that loud, although I haven't yet run it for more than 30 seconds or so. < 1321984882 908427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover demonstrates Scottish hardness in the face of 99 dBa. < 1321984914 546410 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're only a little louder than bagpipes. < 1321985016 770007 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321985258 900088 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetBSD for Amiga: INSTALLING < 1321985263 758730 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WILL TEST M68K < 1321985265 894525 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WILLLLLLL < 1321985926 204885 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1321986564 531501 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321987172 55129 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where can I get malbolge? < 1321987188 866606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a malbolge interpreter? < 1321987195 93257 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my programming teacher gave me a derp problem, and said use ANY language < 1321987198 450451 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Malbolge#External_resources < 1321987208 283105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :new2net: good luck writing a malbolge program... < 1321987215 972165 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idonno if Malbolge is a good selection for "any" :P < 1321987218 306821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some cryptographic skill is recommended < 1321987247 317363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I killed a random mill owner. It wasn't my fault! I just went into his house and picked his pocket to get some practice at doing it, but he caught me and I ran. He chased me out into the wilderness, at which point I got bored of running, figured we were in the middle of a snowy forest in the middle of the night, and stabbed him through the heart. Then I dumped his body in a river. OK, I guess it total < 1321987247 415301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ly was my fault." < 1321987275 313898 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also an apt description of Malbolge. < 1321987412 63998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lately I've taken to reanimating the bodies of people who piss me off, then killing them again so they burn up to a pile of ash. Hideous otherwordly punishment for my enemies, and it keeps the roads clear!" < 1321987419 654783 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language is named after Malebolge, the eighth level of hell. < 1321987473 535770 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought there were only 7 < 1321987513 164311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :new2net: They created another one for people who make brainfuck derivatives. < 1321987522 22179 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In reality there are zero, in the Divine Comedy there are nine. < 1321987529 50140 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :++++++++++[>+++++>++++++++++>+++++++++++<<<-]>>>.<+.>+++++++++.<<.+++>>---------.-<.>+++++++.--- < 1321987552 349998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[>+++++>++++++++++>+++++++++++<<<-]>>>.<+.>+++++++++.<<.+++>>---------.-<.>+++++++.--- < 1321987553 75793 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :new2net < 1321987558 174656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen old2net < 1321987560 861213 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, why would the graphics card come packaged with a VGA to DVI adapter if it didn't work? < 1321987563 163845 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​78 ++++++++++[>+>+++++++++++>++++++++++>+++++<<<<-]>>+.---.>.>.<<++.>+.<++++++.<. [774] < 1321987570 194695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Satanism? < 1321987594 482050 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1321987599 294964 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but your txtgen doesn't leave only prime numbers in each byte < 1321987605 122365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"my" txtgen :P < 1321987658 760729 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge_txtgen new2net < 1321987679 819935 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shame in taking the easy road where available... < 1321987815 254715 :derrik!~xix@194.150.65.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321988001 574467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1321988006 26499 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: any luck? < 1321988018 374458 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hmm, why would the graphics card come packaged with a VGA to DVI adapter if it didn't work? <-- it wouldn't < 1321988025 406279 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless something is broken < 1321988034 114407 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the adapter or whatever < 1321988081 169049 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : BtW, I can confirm that the graphics card's DVI cables are DVI-I and the monitor's unused DVI port is DVI-D. <-- that combo should work just fine, because DVI-I is DVI-A+DVI-D basically < 1321988103 95744 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal will explain to Phantom__Hoover how ports are designed. <-- I only know how the FreeBSD ports work :P < 1321988112 975480 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greatest thing about the BSDs is that every time you mount their native filesystem you get to scream "MOUNT FOR FUCK'S SAKE" (<-- joke noöne will get) < 1321988134 663503 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom__Hoover demonstrates Scottish hardness in the face of 99 dBa. <-- you mean Welsh < 1321988166 839415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I *do* have access to a TV with an HDMI input. < 1321988173 779923 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides bagpipes kind of sound nice. Probably not in the long run though. < 1321988182 850670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321988205 448746 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I know about UFS mounting under linux. < 1321988212 115029 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, does EgoBot interpret Malbolge? < 1321988213 268864 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: never tried it, but I know it is kind of bad < 1321988219 849564 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge < 1321988224 38575 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe? < 1321988227 192329 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to tell < 1321988238 489981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new2net: I don't think so, but I'm not sure < 1321988240 531216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1321988240 742144 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1321988248 671259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it does, it seems < 1321988273 243635 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^malbolge ('&%:9]!~}|z2Vxwv-,POqponl$Hjig%eB@@>}= < 1321988302 225222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :new2net: ! not ^ < 1321988302 559281 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: NOT - THE - JOKE < 1321988320 251314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i got it < 1321988324 371491 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: oh mount.ffs, but no one uses ffs any more < 1321988332 901729 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge ('&%:9]!~}|z2Vxwv-,POqponl$Hjig%eB@@>}= < 1321988333 305701 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1321988342 592021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the spambots have been busy recently < 1321988342 663363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ufs aka ffsv2 < 1321988359 463511 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: right, but the tools are mount.ufs iirc < 1321988367 705234 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :tool is* < 1321988381 326442 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so Gregor's joke doesn't work for them < 1321988393 49606 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because the joke was that the /tool/ is mount.ffs < 1321988428 383325 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"about the BSDs" < 1321988432 433598 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only called UFS on Linux. < 1321988436 689715 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dies inside.
< 1321988439 494362 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: no < 1321988439 644404 :new2net!~new2net@unaffiliated/new2net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1321988449 259865 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: notice UFS and UFS2 in http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/index.html < 1321988453 529628 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as an example < 1321988454 456414 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I just watched NetBSD 5.1 mount_ffs < 1321988456 647556 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :first hit on ddg for me < 1321988470 234731 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well netbsd is like 10 years out of date except on toasters < 1321988470 298432 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321988480 448818 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Amiga: Mostly like a toaster. < 1321988481 823626 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1321988486 645194 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: right < 1321988493 234925 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I mainly used freebsd and some openbsd < 1321988510 215512 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got data in an Excel spreadsheet, what's the best way to use it in Haskell? < 1321988513 522106 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think freebsd is the largest *bsd < 1321988519 298017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :openbsd "more modern than netbsd" "lol" < 1321988523 546505 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I misremember < 1321988524 410240 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I mainly use Linux, because everything I want to run can either run Linux (in which case I don't want BSD), or the only free OS it can run is NetBSD :P < 1321988524 708891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: export to csv? < 1321988542 357419 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, then what? < 1321988542 502339 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: heh < 1321988555 504075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: parsec would work < 1321988559 134909 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be an easier way < 1321988562 976672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: search hackage for csv library < 1321988568 894110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: he said excel < 1321988578 237731 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I meant parsec for the csv data < 1321988578 889833 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1321988596 320415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, trying this again with an HDMI cable. < 1321988598 397955 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: or you could use the FFI for accessing MS Office integration stuff < 1321988606 340479 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: doubtful it will help, but worth a try < 1321988615 420471 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: remember to unplug the other monitor < 1321988618 79023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Vorpal's advice is useless. < 1321988628 14843 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that stuff about FFI was a joke < 1321988629 843842 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1321988768 977721 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :[download] 16.7% of 37.55M at 175.13k/s ETA 03:02 <-- the video is 2 minutes. What a failure. < 1321988769 430409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That didn't work either. < 1321988787 947259 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well then I guess one of the CPU, RAM or GPU are broken < 1321988788 163861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there something wrong with the card, then? < 1321988794 557573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1321988801 14263 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What's that about you getting download speeds that Americans can only dream of? < 1321988803 344564 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or mobo < 1321988815 412884 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: come on from a good mirror I can get 800 kbps down < 1321988835 332180 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: youtube: usually 500 kpbs < 1321988848 474040 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that was youtube-dl) < 1321989023 515875 :derrik_!~xix@gprs-inet-65-59.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1321989035 475737 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG NetBSD extraction SO SLOW < 1321989063 122493 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what is the bottle neck? < 1321989073 779909 :derrik!~xix@194.150.65.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1321989080 931757 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Everything :P < 1321989089 129248 :derrik_!~xix@gprs-inet-65-59.elisa.ee QUIT :Client Quit < 1321989229 800250 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-59.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1321989318 692863 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321989327 881222 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :[download] 20.3% of 210.35M at 163.04k/s ETA 17:32 <-- come on, for a 14 minute video < 1321989358 769974 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-59.elisa.ee QUIT :Client Quit < 1321989438 655312 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-59.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1321989817 495868 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :coblumpkin < 1321989890 464001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hate so pure and… blumpkin seeds? < 1321989927 894811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1321990070 45944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there's a new humble bundle, btw < 1321990084 236392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know, they advertise at me incessantly < 1321990110 55255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these bundles come out much faster than I expected; and as a result, they're getting less of my custom than maybe they'd want < 1321990124 210542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the inability to buy them after the period ends doesn't help either < 1321990131 742863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even at a mark-up < 1321990144 97126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure you can. < 1321990146 568848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a really big markup. < 1321990168 288168 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Have you even ever played Uplink? < 1321990169 257930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I mean, without bribing the relevant people < 1321990172 510449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, I haven't < 1321990177 515500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of it, but not much about it < 1321990183 107629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's good. < 1321990187 282881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really good. < 1321990188 987406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : well, I mean, without bribing the relevant people < 1321990192 684120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know what genre it is < 1321990193 682355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was referring to simply being each game < 1321990198 986367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1321990212 184143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Uplink is a fully-featured implementation of the ridiculous OSes used for hacking in films and TV shows < 1321990216 115377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus plot < 1321990226 124332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it even includes an IRC client, although it was removed in a patch) < 1321990241 905613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's really well done -- you can bring down systems by erasing their OS files with the command line < 1321990248 950446 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they never come back up even if you restart the game with another player account < 1321990263 592085 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott... < 1321990276 395501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you can set the state of the game back to freshly-installed so you can do it again? < 1321990281 177934 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crashed systems come back up eventually, and systems aren't persistent. < 1321990288 637202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Not if you rm -r /. < 1321990296 250534 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, sure, but most systems aren't terribly interesting :P < 1321990300 240656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that command doesn't actually /work/ < 1321990303 9002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in real life < 1321990305 280581 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1321990310 973809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not rm -r /, it's del / or something :P < 1321990311 913734 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They still come back up. < 1321990312 994415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you forkbomb them? < 1321990314 719563 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :After a few months. < 1321990318 128431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hmm, they never came back for me, but OK. < 1321990326 749335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The shell isn't *that* good. < 1321990329 801128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's cd usr; delete; cd sys; delete. < 1321990332 163797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1321990351 479396 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been extracting ./rescue/[ for multiple minutes now >_> < 1321990364 324313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: why is there a file called [? < 1321990373 810265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a symlink to test(1)? < 1321990376 616261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even more insane if it isn't) < 1321990425 250226 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which [ < 1321990427 931177 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/[ < 1321990437 734527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file /usr/bin/[ < 1321990438 82214 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ has been a conventional part of UNIX for years. < 1321990439 756604 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/[: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped < 1321990450 719870 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :test and [ are slightly (very slightly) distinct. < 1321990460 880205 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :discussing the same bug report with two different forks of the same project simultaneously < 1321990462 459743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yes, but I wouldn't have expected to see it in ./rescue < 1321990466 108626 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~a~w~k~w~a~r~d~ < 1321990470 673197 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Fair 'nuff :) < 1321990470 968496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are they test and [? < 1321990473 876575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321990479 867909 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1321990496 770534 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFFFFFFFFFF it's still extracting rescue/[ < 1321990507 127315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's infinitely large? < 1321990517 191129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I suspect it's hung on the filename or something :P < 1321990614 598664 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I conclude that the only way this can end up non-awkward is if i convince the two projects to merge < 1321990641 433096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the /original/ have the bug? and is it dead? < 1321990649 278187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original is dead < 1321990696 245510 :coblumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1321990812 675330 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-59.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: reconnect < 1321990827 988837 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-59.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1321991143 591677 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nope, finally got past it. < 1321991152 331162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The biggest file. < 1321991768 740928 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321991818 68185 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321992023 989293 :augur_!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321992080 928127 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321992272 737728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321992426 841840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh right, I just remembered, kerio is also an ssh fanboy < 1321992438 65983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1321992443 635640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even realise that was possible < 1321992448 241853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently so < 1321992480 910736 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who ISN'T an SSH fanboy. < 1321992482 941692 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSH rules. < 1321992485 813170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you can do worse than SSH < 1321992495 987658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but how < 1321992501 646744 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rsh < 1321992502 828192 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet < 1321992515 142881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523, I have a message for you: kerio said: i just realized that rsync and pretty much every DVCS uses ssh - why can't acehack-tiles and/or jettyplay do the same? < 1321992525 102361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: ssh is awesome and you should use it! < 1321992532 879021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:05] kerio: the use of ssh by git and by rsync is one of the things that made them much harder to port to Windows < 1321992534 268542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:06] and also made them much more awesome < 1321992557 820190 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows is for losers anyway. < 1321992560 125017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's amazing how quickly i have come to hate kerio < 1321992565 335521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321992584 507753 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it usually takes at least ten more lines than i've seen < 1321992586 182954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, there you go, ssh fanboyism in action < 1321992634 503981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you should make jettyplay use rsh+perl < 1321992661 519964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, jettyplay connects to public NetHack servers to watch, normally via telnet < 1321992673 246662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kerio removed telnet support from acehack.eu, because ssh was so superior < 1321992677 542079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't work on AEU at the moment < 1321992707 162058 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321992771 946739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, what exactly does ssh give for anonymous connections? < 1321992779 419319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :authentication overhead, I think, plus compression < 1321992793 752322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sending the password in plaintext < 1321992797 106361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and encryption I guess :P < 1321992804 73500 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: vital nethack passwords < 1321992811 86631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerio did find a really huge security bug in dgamelaunch, and actually got root on someone else's server through it < 1321992841 554304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's, um, a really immature way to respond to remote holes? < 1321992857 948920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he didn't do anything destructive with it but edit the homepage and close the hole behind him < 1321992867 563754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds destructive to me :P < 1321992892 19078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but the server admin seemed not to mind < 1321993425 812622 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321993460 757045 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-27-183.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1321993460 802365 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-27-183.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1321993460 802562 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321993477 547519 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1321993477 746519 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: crazy utahraptor! homeslice! oh, i wasn't talking about you here, i have and now god's in on it too, utahraptor. they're quite the whistles in mario, on a whale-watching tour: < 1321993505 877448 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fungot, we love you so. < 1321993506 425432 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: people in car car simulator trucko boat 3. that's a ' thr' followed that. remember? remember punchette, the power punch", sure but outside of a religious context, but it seems i'm destined to be with you < 1321993506 482854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1321993533 86484 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should use fungot to set the /topic. < 1321993533 953945 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: a good choice, then i'm going to make mistaks so bad that they kill me, and a parallel to all this, as usual, t-rex < 1321993547 690367 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1321993548 820489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: --Gregor "antioptbot" Gregor < 1321993589 670033 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321993649 651130 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1321993661 105151 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOUCHÉ SIR < 1321993740 294961 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321993778 750450 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HUMBLE INTROVERSION BUNDLE < 1321993867 300958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ooh this sounds nice "Humble Introversion Bundle" < 1321993871 460192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :--the other channel, hours ago < 1321993906 503665 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Crayon Physics Deluxe worth it? < 1321993919 676321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you already have it from another bundle < 1321993925 324439 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1321993932 144989 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Aquaria from another bundle < 1321993936 631342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's fun for a while, but becomes a bit repetitive < 1321993963 925567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the physics engine is a little wonky, enough that you can't really do things that the designers didn't think of and have them work with any degree of success < 1321993970 748940 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1321994031 834866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it feels very random (actually, it's sensitivity to small details of input rather than randomness, but that comes to much the same thing in practice) < 1321994044 354926 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1321994053 234244 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't really hurt that much to get it, can it? < 1321994079 160496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hardly thinks Introversion's games are worth less than 2.25 pounds.
< 1321994106 420440 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION currently has $12.83 in his Paypal account...
< 1321994116 220616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION paid 4 pounds, because I already have Uplink and am uncertain whether I'll like DEFCON or not, plus already have the other two games, and I spent more than everyone else on the other bundles anyway.
< 1321994206 56172 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pays $5
< 1321994210 773378 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1321994225 411439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my bank charged me an extra £1.50 for paying in dollars from a pounds-denominated bank account < 1321994262 277053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my paypal didn't < 1321994268 843802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You realise you can add more funds to PayPal acounts. < 1321994275 356105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refuse to use PayPal < 1321994312 749079 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321994312 925025 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not as easily as just using what's currently there < 1321994315 800816 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, I fully predicted a response along those lines. I'm sure elaborating will be productive and entertaining for all of us. < 1321994339 940776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: heh, somehow I don't believe you < 1321994350 789278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but basically, it comes from multiple incidents in which they randomly decided to take people's money < 1321994354 305040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interleave tab width discussion while you're at it!!! < 1321994422 712863 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I FINALLY KNOW WHA I'M DOING! < 1321994429 570290 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH A T ON THE END OF WHA < 1321994469 865474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Ngevd < 1321994521 831427 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone on Reddit mentioned Slavehack as being like MMO Uplink? < 1321994590 3684 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be StdGen -> Bool -> String -> String rather than Int -> Bool -> String -> String < 1321994719 130199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Whenever you take an StdGen, you want to output one too < 1321994723 985059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So -> (String, StdGen) < 1321994740 914706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does StdGen do? < 1321994753 871102 :myndz\!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321994762 649574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it does nothing, it's a type < 1321994772 839353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's its intended use, then? < 1321994777 695543 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: unless you make an infinite String result, or perhaps even a potentially infinite one < 1321994780 201775 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, a random number generator < 1321994796 226327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well yes < 1321994799 275891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see, using it monad-style < 1321994801 474854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but without an actual monad < 1321994802 337145 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use it to obtain a number and a new RNG < 1321994802 861537 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t split < 1321994803 774316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall g. (RandomGen g) => g -> (g, g) < 1321994843 887430 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or one where you don't want the whole String to be calculated immediately, i guess < 1321994863 981548 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t randoms < 1321994865 123506 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall g a. (Random a, RandomGen g) => g -> [a] < 1321994907 391864 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t random < 1321994908 406635 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall g a. (Random a, RandomGen g) => g -> (a, g) < 1321994929 855193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks the fact that those aren't in a Random monad is awful.
< 1321994942 592165 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it occurs to me that splitting :: (RandomGen g) => (g -> a) -> g -> (a, g); splitting f g = second f . split could be useful < 1321994951 427861 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1321994953 950562 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first < 1321995022 130813 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: splitting f = fmap f random :P < 1321995030 368415 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with correct Random monad) < 1321995045 113415 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1321995066 434715 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: * elliott thinks the fact that those aren't in a Random monad is awful. < 1321995089 634384 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :random :: (Random a) => Rand a < 1321995099 760363 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well i guess if RandomGen was an instance of Random - except it's a class, so that would break things < 1321995104 639386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :runRand :: (RandomGen g) => Rand a -> g -> (a,g) etc. < 1321995105 755242 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um no < 1321995112 282440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying that random's type is wrong < 1321995117 854179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's threading an explicit state monad around instead of just < 1321995119 952217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :being a state monad < 1321995129 794498 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written a program in Haskell that could be used in lessons to demonstrate why error handling is a good idea < 1321995136 649772 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um do you realize what splitting _does_? < 1321995182 604130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh hm, i misread splitting < 1321995191 356179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry < 1321995191 422655 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so :P < 1321995210 741563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :split :: Rand a -> Rand a < 1321995212 3463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess :P < 1321995229 480955 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did some fonts go super small in GTK programs suddenly?! < 1321995230 485891 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1321995232 700635 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all < 1321995250 723108 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that reminds me < 1321995255 946517 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, maybe qt ones < 1321995259 664899 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I want to use a module, I need to install the module < 1321995264 677011 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah QT < 1321995285 352129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: very true. < 1321995319 339445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: is that all < 1321995324 544525 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to restart x11 < 1321995335 852205 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how do install module? < 1321995347 551963 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: what module < 1321995348 488606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1321995350 978086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are being very vague < 1321995362 53155 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Spreadsheet < 1321995365 433567 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/spreadsheet < 1321995373 558237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cabal install spreadsheet but uhhhh < 1321995375 539492 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would not use that package < 1321995382 730946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/csv < 1321995385 412556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try this instead :P < 1321995395 353198 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (evalState . forever . state $ random) $ mkStdGen 42 :: [Int] < 1321995396 209401 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variable `a' in the constraint: < 1321995396 254644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what i've seen used < 1321995396 603847 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `System.Random.Random a' < 1321995396 649246 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1321995398 609303 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1321995408 597281 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I need to rewrite my program. < 1321995409 946952 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1321995412 392198 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1321995414 670540 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the No < 1321995418 653206 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said Now, not No < 1321995421 769076 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (evalState . sequence . state $ random) $ mkStdGen 42 :: [Int] < 1321995422 845574 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[Control.Monad.Trans.State.Lazy.StateT < 1321995423 45123 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1321995424 197935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: but anyway, "cabal install pkg" < 1321995435 434091 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1321995437 928399 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t state < 1321995438 944192 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall s a. (s -> (a, s)) -> State s a < 1321995440 119547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't need to rewrite your program, just the csv input bits P: < 1321995441 311051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1321995447 830960 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what if I'm an idiot and using Windows? < 1321995451 974196 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: might be strict < 1321995452 436678 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t evalState < 1321995453 350442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall s a. State s a -> s -> a < 1321995454 714656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: cabal install pkg < 1321995464 354175 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well it _says_ Lazy up there :P < 1321995476 321681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "expected" but ok < 1321995494 393087 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1321995504 126856 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: open cmd.exe and run that stuff I presume? < 1321995510 880204 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (evalState . sequence . repeat . state $ random) $ mkStdGen 42 :: [Int] < 1321995511 950092 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the right path < 1321995512 528882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-3907187990116499535,-2519438828217931933,-8264534369199619667,86887135830... < 1321995515 188781 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1321995568 121954 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> randoms < 1321995569 658771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Overlapping instances for GHC.Show.Show (g -> [a]) < 1321995570 23921 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of... < 1321995586 653036 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> randoms (mkStdGen 42) < 1321995588 272527 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-3907187990116499535,-2519438828217931933,-8264534369199619667,86887135830... < 1321995588 818981 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t forever < 1321995589 873483 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (m :: * -> *) a b. (Monad m) => m a -> m b < 1321995595 975320 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src forever < 1321995596 321448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. < 1321995602 116836 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :P < 1321995605 152130 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what package is it in? < 1321995605 469965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever = fix (>>) < 1321995607 394091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :base < 1321995615 311479 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1321995618 465229 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: duh < 1321995672 54535 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: runRandAll :: Rand a -> [a] >:) < 1321995673 709581 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well it isn't in Prelude if that is what you meant. < 1321995696 585555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "package" does not mean what you seem to think it means < 1321995705 42277 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, module is what I meant < 1321995709 378523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: runRandAll random g == randoms g < 1321995710 279905 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :used wrong word < 1321995713 696038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Control.Monad < 1321995716 354237 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1321995725 306196 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: runRandAll (liftA2 (,) random random) g == guess < 1321995903 816824 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321996003 911755 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also randoms g, but with [(a,a)] return type? < 1321996061 863360 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, actually, randoms is very inelegant < 1321996065 249662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally runRandAll would be < 1321996073 907265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :runRandAll :: Rand a -> [a] with no g argument < 1321996079 714533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and simply return _all possible results_ < 1321996087 712189 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the random types involved in its computation < 1321996116 78953 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fst $ random (mkStdGen 42) :: [(Int, Int)] < 1321996117 89140 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (System.Random.Random < 1321996117 364977 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(GHC.Types.Int, ... < 1321996118 348777 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1321996122 89843 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fst $ random (mkStdGen 42) :: (Int, Int) < 1321996123 10524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (System.Random.Random < 1321996123 197690 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC.Types.Int, G... < 1321996125 849392 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1321996140 675402 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it would be, if that instance existed < 1321996196 322476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, MonadRandom doesn't have that < 1321996212 831813 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck FAT < 1321996223 988607 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses this USB memory
< 1321996230 320504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the obvious way to model running a nondetemrministic computation on a generator is to have it simply magically pick one ofthe results of runRandAll... < 1321996230 664580 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :FATs differ but appear to be intact. Use which FAT ? < 1321996230 892166 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) Use first FAT < 1321996230 937471 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) Use second FAT < 1321996237 87410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, but optimised :) < 1321996273 591141 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that doesn't include the RandomGen class so would be restricted to the StdGen instance... < 1321996286 678740 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well i mean that's just how you'd _think_ about it < 1321996297 214334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src RandomGen < 1321996298 34855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :class RandomGen g where < 1321996298 403963 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : next :: g -> (Int, g) < 1321996298 449656 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : split :: g -> (g, g) < 1321996298 449859 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : genRange :: g -> (Int,Int) < 1321996300 581623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Random < 1321996301 545414 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Random a where < 1321996301 736986 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : random :: RandomGen g => g -> (a, g) < 1321996302 88642 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : randoms :: RandomGen g => g -> [a] < 1321996304 164260 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : randomR :: RandomGen g => (a,a) -> g -> (a,g) < 1321996306 219840 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : randomRs :: RandomGen g => (a,a) -> g -> [a] < 1321996307 977636 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : randomRIO :: (a,a) -> IO a < 1321996310 186647 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : randomIO :: IO a < 1321996323 238782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ideally it'd be something like class (Ix a) => Random a where { something } < 1321996331 959229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh Bounded a < 1321996333 525428 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just thought of that < 1321996337 627787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :point is, runRandAll wouldn't need a generator < 1321996342 409389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd just pick every single possible value of the type < 1321996355 605149 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym Enum, Bounded has no range < 1321996359 537261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc you might want a binary tree thing instead if you actually want to use them... < 1321996361 177416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1321996364 697282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enum + Bounded < 1321996407 294193 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but randomIx :: (RandomGen g, Ix a) => (a,a) -> g -> (a, g) could be written now... < 1321996419 487536 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and would work for tuples < 1321996455 90022 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Ix < 1321996455 245145 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :class (Ord a) => Ix a where < 1321996455 682763 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : range :: (a,a) -> [a] < 1321996455 728047 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : index :: (a,a) -> a -> Int < 1321996455 728207 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : inRange :: (a,a) -> a -> Bool < 1321996455 728307 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : rangeSize :: (a,a) -> Int < 1321996490 880034 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> rangeSize (1,2) < 1321996491 923538 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1321996503 799772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah. i am going to sleep rather than think about this. _tomorrow_ I can futz around with random monads. < 1321996507 524996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :night. < 1321996513 167794 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1321996519 691311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1321996543 589944 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait Ix has no way to get _back_ an a value from an Int :( < 1321996556 308727 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Enum has no tuple instance < 1321996570 164328 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well no efficient way) < 1321996895 741343 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, poor I. < 1321996895 829700 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ix < 1321997202 89585 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so any luck with your computer? < 1321997218 86929 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: maybe you should get some experienced you know near you to check it out? < 1321997225 336797 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to play WA but elliott is gone and Sgeo is boring. < 1321997234 573312 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: WA? Wolfram Alpha? < 1321997240 675128 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worms: Armageddon < 1321997242 921619 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1321997242 989940 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Western Australia? < 1321997243 779662 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321997251 997339 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't own that game, so I can't join in < 1321997261 593014 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't have my copy of the ISO with mne < 1321997278 36662 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure when I'll ever have it < 1321997281 202242 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1321997302 339666 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1321997308 799544 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :torrent it? < 1321997328 281152 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1321997334 424645 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I have school in a few hours < 1321997369 462843 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What time zone? < 1321997369 969453 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram armageddon, the genius overlord game < 1321997375 184967 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: heh < 1321997386 384424 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote for quote < 1321997398 363745 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote wolfram armageddon, the genius overlord game < 1321997400 453060 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1321997400 786882 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :734) wolfram armageddon, the genius overlord game < 1321997428 142832 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume < 1321997443 415193 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `pl' failed with: thread killed < 1321997462 994249 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how awful < 1321997472 423517 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume < 1321997487 682554 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `pl' failed with: thread killed < 1321997491 406191 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl test < 1321997491 801674 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1321997493 596381 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume < 1321997493 916116 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointless: sorry, nothing to resume. < 1321997496 828638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite an @pl you gave it < 1321997510 242296 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what pl was it he gave it? < 1321997512 967881 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see it < 1321997529 133994 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might still have been on the one that crashed yesterday, and which started the day before that < 1321997536 910784 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl ap id id (ap id id) < 1321997540 186308 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap id id (ap id id) < 1321997540 539843 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1321997546 301855 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1321997547 336271 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume < 1321997553 605968 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap id id (ap id id) < 1321997553 882373 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1321997556 672823 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume < 1321997567 488231 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why is that doing that? < 1321997569 195326 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap id id (ap id id) < 1321997569 337256 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1321997599 601544 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: because ap is SKI S and it tries to rewrite ap x y z as x z (y z) < 1321997620 138138 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume < 1321997635 430631 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `pl' failed with: thread killed < 1321997664 456862 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-87-189.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321997669 328060 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh right < 1321997672 905120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321997680 867225 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is there a way to do it properly? < 1321997703 152209 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it seems like the thread killing only happens based on something like cpu time, so the other day i could resume it despite a day having passed :P < 1321997707 486397 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src ap < 1321997707 842237 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap = liftM2 id < 1321997713 154673 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Applicative, right < 1321997726 349020 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: um S I I (S I I) _is_ an infinite loop in SKI calculus < 1321997732 807264 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1321997743 450867 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I can't say I ever studied SKI much < 1321997752 872214 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle ap < 1321997753 179964 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude appendFile :: FilePath -> String -> IO () < 1321997753 526416 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.IO appendFile :: FilePath -> String -> IO () < 1321997753 571686 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad ap :: Monad m => m (a -> b) -> m a -> m b < 1321997773 453759 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the (e ->) monad, as usual for @pl < 1321997885 41904 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl ap x y z < 1321997885 385050 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x z (y z) < 1321997890 149210 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :S S K (S (K (S S (S (S S K)))) K) < 1321997909 745472 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl ap ap const (ap (const (ap ap (ap (ap ap const)))) const) < 1321997909 897478 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap ap const (ap ap (ap (ap ap const)) . const) < 1321997920 267815 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1321998004 130640 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl ap ap const (ap ap (ap (ap ap const)) . const) < 1321998004 577416 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :((\ m n -> m >>= \ k -> n >>= \ j -> return (k j)) >>= \ e -> (\ a _ -> a) >>= \ d -> return (e d)) (\ r -> ((\ ab ac -> ab >>= \ z -> ac >>= \ y -> return (z y)) >>= \ t -> (\ ai -> ((\ au av -> au < 1321998004 892335 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>= \ as -> av >>= \ ar -> return (as ar)) >>= \ al -> (\ b _ -> b) >>= \ ak -> return (al ak)) >>= \ af -> ai >>= \ ae -> return (af ae)) >>= \ s -> return (t s)) (\ _ -> r)) < 1321998007 861198 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1321998074 701404 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: however, ap may be the only thing @pl handles which causes actual duplication during simplification, so that it can loop < 1321998096 714192 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321998120 106797 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl (\x -> x x) < 1321998120 467716 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :join id < 1321998126 734863 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl (\x -> x x) (\x -> x x) < 1321998130 39117 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap id id (ap id id) < 1321998130 395099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1321998191 471574 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl join join join < 1321998191 706624 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :join join join < 1321998200 81053 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1321998210 868197 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl join id (join id) < 1321998210 937867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :join id (join id) < 1321998227 799473 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl ap id id (join id) < 1321998228 172528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :join id (join id) < 1321998250 615263 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's possible it only introduces join at the end of the previous simplifications < 1321998289 736599 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl join join join < 1321998290 112248 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :((\ d -> d >>= \ c -> c) >>= \ a -> a) (\ f -> f >>= \ e -> e) < 1321998298 237459 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl ((\ d -> d >>= \ c -> c) >>= \ a -> a) (\ f -> f >>= \ e -> e) < 1321998298 615741 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :join join join < 1321998301 887145 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1321998327 855280 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it _could_ have made join duplicate, but doesn't try < 1321998448 596601 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw none of these expressions type in actual haskell) < 1321998476 328480 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1321998478 799959 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t join join < 1321998479 857755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: < 1321998480 23439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : m = (->) (m (m a)) < 1321998480 69696 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Probable cause: `join' is applied to too few arguments < 1321998482 634157 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1321998485 1412 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-59.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: dreamzz < 1321998498 540683 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t join id < 1321998499 401324 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: m = (->) (m a) < 1321998499 534144 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Probable cause: `id' is applied to too few arguments < 1321998499 579656 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of `join', namely `id' < 1321998508 805153 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even that < 1321998746 849279 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1321999020 977086 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1322000616 659107 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like there's this huge reaction of "looool stop being lazy get a job" < 1322000621 828431 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in response to Occupy protestors < 1322000650 567776 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there's just < 1322000653 839528 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a magical job tree < 1322000661 951901 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gives you a job if you /really/ want one. < 1322001219 368266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clap your hands if you believe in jobs. < 1322001751 566452 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: that is my dad's view. doesn't help that all the major news outlets only show the "alternative types" and not the regular people < 1322001771 359466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the daily show. it showed some regularish people. does that count as a major news outlet? < 1322001846 268396 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1322001896 523430 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :NPR has pretty coverage of Occupy as well. < 1322001905 160997 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not as much video < 1322001912 581335 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :all audio/writing/photographs mostly < 1322001931 454024 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pretty good < 1322002083 169504 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prett works < 1322002203 46760 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: You are now graced with my absence. < 1322002300 268801 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really think Occupy will accomplish anything unless it gets more people. < 1322002308 557863 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, if the unemployment rate goes up < 1322002312 983594 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and people have nothing else to do < 1322002318 672419 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but go protest the government < 1322002348 357146 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically you're saying it's in Occupy's best interests to destroy the jobs of hard-working Americans everywhere? < 1322002415 81710 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1322002429 628959 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Occupy's best interest is not to have further economic crises. < 1322002433 357347 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... < 1322002436 111269 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1322002463 378983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this would be worsening of an existing crisis to drive home their point. < 1322002485 792572 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I guess? < 1322002516 469275 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Occupy should go make more people jobless < 1322002521 426944 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that... makes no sense. < 1322002571 349114 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow switzerland has a 2.1% unemploy rate < 1322002590 934597 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Signapore is 1.9 < 1322002610 193901 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf Monaco is 0 < 1322002678 936944 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-211.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monaco has the advantage of having a population of 35,986. < 1322002690 22367 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1322002700 594285 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still that's amazing that /everyone/ has a job. < 1322002721 917149 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides to become a citizen and then FUCK UP THEIR STATS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
< 1322002730 315198 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also no income tax < 1322002731 896735 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is badass < 1322002774 899286 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically a bunch of rich Europeans live there so they can gamble and avoid taxes. < 1322002777 959244 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good. < 1322003112 158071 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as not-micronations < 1322003120 16730 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :belarus has the best at 0.7% < 1322003151 377560 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the Belarusian economy remains state-controlled[93] and has been described as "Soviet-style."[124] Thus, 51.2% of Belarusians are employed by state-controlled companies, 47.4% are employed by private Belarusian companies (of which 5.7% are partially foreign-owned), and 1.4% are employed by foreign companies. < 1322003197 664233 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* kallisti decides to become a citizen and then FUCK UP THEIR STATS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1322003219 905528 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You realise that a) the cost of living will be huge and b) they're under no obligation to let you in. < 1322003239 786569 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1322003250 42618 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no I actually hadn't thought about that < 1322003335 997036 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. If you are employed or have been offered to work for a Monegasque company within the principality of Monaco < 1322003338 881328 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are wanting to set up a new business in Monaco, in which case the residency will only be given once the company has been officially registered. < 1322003341 868732 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can prove that you have a certain net wealth and can leave a minimum capital balance in your Monaco account. This amount is at the discretion of the Monaco bank. < 1322003351 791102 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to meet one of those three criteria < 1322003379 138442 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1322003403 178060 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1322003844 320285 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-211.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the requirements for *citizenship*? < 1322003860 922128 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1322003871 261477 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-211.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God damn. < 1322003876 397688 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's /or/ not /and/ < 1322003881 313827 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only have to do one. < 1322003884 94497 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-211.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daaamn. < 1322003909 901485 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"prove that you have a certain net wealth" I wonder how much that is typically < 1322003923 876698 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → sleep
< 1322003949 922396 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1322003982 287545 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess everyone is technically "employed" in Monaco because they either own a business, work for a business, or have so much money that they don't really need a job. < 1322004018 263821 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-211.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Cept there's native citizens. < 1322004199 425811 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monaco's population is unusual in that the native Monegasques are a minority in their own country comprising 21.6% of the population. The largest group are French nationals at 28.4%, followed by Monegasque (21.6%), Italian (18.7%), British (7.5%), Belgian (2.8%), German (2.5%), Swiss (2.5%) and US nationals (1.2%). < 1322004221 689955 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1322004438 701677 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-152-118.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1322004440 862318 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-230-211.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1322004697 609208 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh though apparently the GDP (PPP) per capita in Monaco is ranked 31st < 1322004726 863404 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the States are 9th < 1322004768 481973 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... well < 1322004787 36345 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :with nominal GDP per capita, Monaco ranks first (in rankings where it's actually /included/) < 1322004803 630804 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita < 1322004853 160983 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically < 1322004857 761665 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cost of living in Monaco is ridiculous < 1322004956 968774 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Norway is apparently awesome both in terms of nominal and PPP GDP per capita. < 1322004973 965966 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is also not a micro-nation < 1322005171 827500 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wtf, so you've alternated between the same two prime ministers for the last 14 years or so? < 1322005314 783420 :augur_!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1322006060 496697 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurabia < 1322006063 913508 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is incredibly stupid. < 1322006280 217407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection