< 1321142401 575235 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that sounds really boring. < 1321142724 330795 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm < 1321142728 908674 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: You are now graced with my absence. < 1321142736 538822 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need a sane evaluation method < 1321142753 680123 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, well < 1321142756 854013 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :/a/ evaluation order < 1321142760 956525 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily a sane one. < 1321142812 342067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*/an/ < 1321142814 766111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you illiterate fuck :( < 1321142823 926406 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1321142919 285234 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oops. oh well, at least I'm not a condescending shitfingered cunt. :D :D :D < 1321143008 560222 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF, Gap Yah was just last year? < 1321143212 164692 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shitfingered? < 1321143362 359051 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321143381 985683 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I get tired of the usual insult. < 1321143393 319463 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :shitfingered cunt has very evocative imagery. < 1321143407 365291 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it can be interpreted multiple ways! < 1321143436 1000 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of them particularly pleasant. < 1321143849 544682 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah. < 1321143937 392404 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1321143939 9530 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1321143944 567277 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so imagine you have a (possinly infinite) graph that is your program expression. < 1321143995 10684 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :now imagine that instead of reducing things "bottom to top" you reduce them in whatever direction you like (i.e. you can non-strictly evaluate in multiple directions) < 1321144004 499181 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that make any sense at all? :P < 1321144140 625498 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out that in GHCi, if you want to assign an IO result to a variable, you should first enter the IO expression at the prompt and then use: let x = it if you want the variable to be called x < 1321144218 189943 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graphics.DVI now will find ligature/kerning: < 1321144232 488674 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :findLK (charLigKern $ characters tenrm !! 102) 105 = Just (Ligature {lkChar = 105, ligChar = 12, ligCode = 0}) < 1321144244 897078 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :findLK (charLigKern $ characters tenrm !! 65) 86 = Just (Kerning {lkChar = 86, kernDist = -72819}) < 1321144256 447843 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :findLK (charLigKern $ characters tenrm !! 64) 85 = Nothing < 1321144288 557837 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there something like "graph automatons" akin to CA? < 1321144357 607041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see eodermdrome < 1321144366 26406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : I found out that in GHCi, if you want to assign an IO result to a variable, you should first enter the IO expression at the prompt and then use: let x = it if you want the variable to be called x < 1321144366 944747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1321144367 969769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :x <- ... < 1321144368 349041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1321144389 278236 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, that works too < 1321144396 198124 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I didn't know that at first < 1321144502 731300 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: bah ais beat me. :P ah well, doesn't mean I can't do it differently. < 1321144576 72139 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1321144577 850651 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's awesome. < 1321144673 921436 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I remove interactive bindings? < 1321144715 510701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::reload? :p < 1321144726 859876 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, I see how I can do it differently. < 1321144731 202180 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I want to remove only some bindings < 1321144827 732177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you can only shadow them. < 1321144957 554247 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difficult part will be determining evaluation order. < 1321145019 819269 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CE34.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321145036 642875 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1321145436 667692 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321145628 70736 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → sleep
< 1321145629 81363 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1321145794 461283 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the idea I've got < 1321145810 557478 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the graph nodes are all single digits 0-9 < 1321145879 429384 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :each digit performs a different operation, and evaluation order is determined by the priority of the node. < 1321145908 599076 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :each tick, 9's evaluate first, and 0's evaluate last. < 1321145927 386379 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it kind of works like a CA, except it's a graph.. < 1321146371 529590 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321146518 287252 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain hurts. < 1321146553 947255 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to throw together a set of completely incoherent operations < 1321146559 304909 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is essentially what I did with dupdog. < 1321146562 64391 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1321146662 637290 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but instead, I think I'll just take my time working out what each digit + node degree results in. < 1321146743 361799 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for example 0s and 1s with degree 1 or 2 remain inert, and would basically represent binary data. however for higher degrees they would do... something else that I haven't figured out. < 1321146899 549974 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'll upload some screenshots of Skyrim shortly. Unlike videos or jpeg compressed screenshots (which seems to be the norm from what I seen) these should actually let you judge the graphical quality. < 1321146908 689574 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fraps is really bad for the FPS < 1321146914 911754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1321146994 713950 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I notice no stuttering without Fraps running, but with it (I used it for the screenshots since prtsc didn't work in the game for some reason) its FPS display reports 40 FPS and I notice some frame rate drop too. < 1321147009 383866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's meant to be a less laggy capturing tool < 1321147014 148183 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1321147017 236655 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, possibly < 1321147057 916791 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I have 33 MB of screenshots as pngs < 1321147064 183573 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :note, this is just a few files < 1321147070 938181 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :14 files < 1321147080 749130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm about to leave shortly, so i'll probably see them tomorrow < 1321147125 248131 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, while the screenshots should contain no spoilers, there are some pictures from buildings a fair bit into the game. If you haven't played it, it is just some pretty (or not so pretty) architecture. < 1321147170 376999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't bother me < 1321147214 709949 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the first one is up at http://whotookspaz.org/~anmaster/images/skyrim/ < 1321147252 393575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, the HUD interface looks kind of amateurish like that, the castle icon thing < 1321147257 709076 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very pretty though < 1321147265 673075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, look at the second < 1321147270 46876 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not so pretty eh? < 1321147279 785260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately i have to go now :( will they still be up tomorrow? < 1321147282 202936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and heh, nice textures < 1321147293 903285 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, designed for console rather than PC < 1321147297 930298 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty obviously < 1321147311 754206 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but sure, they /may/ be there tomorrow < 1321147320 195980 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1321147321 621863 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, unless I get a cease-and-desist < 1321147323 509499 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1321147390 442405 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cease and desist showing off our crappy textures < 1321147393 476344 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal, horses and chickens can report you to the authorities in skyrim :P < 1321147395 160980 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ^ < 1321147399 742794 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, as in, if you steal < 1321147401 439923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1321147409 80839 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, topic was "bugs" < 1321147433 65920 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but yeah I seen a few understandable and some rather weird bugs < 1321147436 586127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1321147557 99390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1321148008 800728 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1321149590 685710 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321150489 990237 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: You are now graced with my absence. < 1321152234 290967 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1321153361 225772 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1321154146 150811 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Now is a good time for me to reappear. < 1321154645 594607 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make a ligaturing program to increment an arbitrary sized number? < 1321154865 266571 :Aune!~Arne@h-152-28.a163.priv.bahnhof.se QUIT :Quit: Lämnar < 1321155825 711755 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1321155825 948797 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1321155825 994260 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321155992 740040 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321156160 773076 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1321156161 45757 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1321156161 90899 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321156363 781123 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1321157770 14115 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-17-34.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: ninies~ < 1321159365 503205 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321159544 763953 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321159915 983368 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MSleep < 1321160334 269912 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b1b.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321161689 877954 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1321162002 296912 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6b1b.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1321162859 523773 :Sgeo|chromcrash!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone elsewhere mentioned this thing < 1321162860 370294 :Sgeo|chromcrash!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :const void * const ((*foo)(const float *,int *(*)(float *,int,int),void())[5]); < 1321162866 131769 :Sgeo|chromcrash!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no idea what that does
< 1321163034 182754 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|chromcrash: It seems to be a C code for a function type? < 1321163049 955510 :Sgeo|chromcrash!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, I think < 1321163076 267603 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of context it is difficult to understand what its purpose is. < 1321163133 81448 :Sgeo|chromcrash!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Someone posted it in another channel and said that if anyone figured it out they'd get 255 internet cookies < 1321163154 637317 :Sgeo|chromcrash!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mentioend that he posted it in another channel
< 1321163275 548371 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like a function pointer no? < 1321163326 740544 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Yes I think so < 1321163338 414826 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointer to function that returns a constant pointer to constant data or something like that < 1321163519 571615 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, hmm, no < 1321164990 692254 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1321165962 669265 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1321167186 585312 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's C++, not C. < 1321167370 236901 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an array of five function pointers. Each points to a function returning a pointer which is mega-super-duper-constant (can't change it, can't change thru it). The functions take a constant float pointer/array, a function (float *,int,int)->int *, and whatever a "void()" is (that one stumps me ... generic function pointer maybe?) < 1321167387 723287 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohwait < 1321167406 633036 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, that return type "const void *const" in fact indicates that it's constant and also always returns the same value for the same inputs. < 1321167522 205267 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not sure about void() though. < 1321167662 896862 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it has something to do with variadic arguments ... < 1321167742 183253 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, can't figure out what void() means and it's not searchable online :P < 1321168263 599521 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem is it can't just be void, you can't have void as a parameter >_> < 1321168481 704289 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321172486 258652 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|chromcrash: Do you know the "declarations use the same syntax as expressions" trick for reading C declarations? < 1321172678 311814 :Sgeo|chromcrash!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1321172711 911342 :Sgeo|chromcrash!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, I have a feeling you just told me it < 1321172932 576483 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|chromcrash: The trick is basically "declarations use the same syntax as expressions". < 1321172952 62876 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, "int x;" declares x as an integer; "int *x;" declares *x as an integer. < 1321173070 28269 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a function blah that takes two doubles and returns a pointer to a double, then "*(*blah)(5.0,3.0)" is a double; therefore "double *(*blah)(double x, double y);" declares that function. < 1321173174 323252 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have an array yak of pointers to functions that take ints and return void and you want to call one, you say "(*yak[1])(8)"; therefore you can declare yak as "void (*yak[5])(int);" < 1321173178 355729 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so on. < 1321173752 888783 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cdecl> explain const void * const ((*foo)(const float *,int *(*)(float *,int,int),void())[5]); < 1321173755 882232 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :declare foo as pointer to function (pointer to const float, pointer to function (pointer to float, int, int) returning pointer to int, function returning void) returning array 5 of const pointer to const void < 1321174195 697735 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: $ echo 'const void * const ((*foo)(const float *,int *(*)(float *,int,int),void())[5]);' | gcc -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Wextra -x c - < 1321174198 695862 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::1:23: error: ‘foo’ declared as function returning an array < 1321174201 211029 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::1:23: warning: type qualifiers ignored on function return type < 1321174249 293655 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1321174293 941605 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "error: function cannot return array type 'void const *const [5]'" if you ask clang. < 1321174331 148314 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why returning arrays is illegal. < 1321174403 776017 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can always put them in a struct, after all. < 1321174449 859480 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You couldn't assign the return value anywhere, for one thing. < 1321174519 262197 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's true. Why isn't that allowed too? :-) < 1321174527 63401 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That of course just transforms into the question of why array assignment is illegal when array-in-a-struct assignment is just fine, yes. < 1321174539 195382 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hysterical raisins, maybe. < 1321174584 601249 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raisins tend to be far funnier than they ought to. < 1321175249 973283 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321175632 333769 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-232-190.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm inclined to just say "C arrays suck". < 1321175709 79169 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-51-229.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1321175709 485260 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-51-229.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1321175709 530572 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321175775 528395 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321175780 967449 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid connection problems < 1321175919 504980 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1321175928 809027 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1321175978 125365 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321175982 670600 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1321176020 924582 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1321176225 94262 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321176244 169647 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321176501 84733 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321176536 465496 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-12.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1321176620 142327 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1321176762 763805 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321176846 96183 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321176933 406342 :Jafet!~Jafet@149.171.48.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321176936 749142 :Jafet!~Jafet@149.171.48.121 QUIT :Changing host < 1321176936 794734 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1321177453 570478 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321177931 100481 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321178066 873781 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/NM6TRF8R < 1321178088 106648 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321178219 259626 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321178242 81929 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321178562 411194 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any thoughts on that? < 1321179127 958784 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-12.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321180073 107827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321181243 171729 :Sgeo|chromcrash!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IOT would be a good name for a nonsense language < 1321181258 832395 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning Phantom_Hoover < 1321181305 249453 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it... the afternoon???? < 1321181322 6252 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in the same time zone as me. < 1321181322 880951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's not; I got up in time today. < 1321181324 26994 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mornin < 1321181324 592315 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1321182009 532199 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/mad87/what_is_d%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu/ < 1321182023 951323 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is possibly the most heavily-pruned AskScience thread I've seen. < 1321182094 458404 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I only go on reddit when it's linked on the #esoteric channel family? < 1321182205 450608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started off that way. < 1321182513 296164 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, did you see the native res skyrim screenshots I made? < 1321182519 514086 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1321182520 532678 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://whotookspaz.org/~anmaster/images/skyrim/ < 1321182524 576083 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you are interested < 1321182539 971415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I note you have emigrated from the Sporks server. < 1321182555 807708 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that one is the sporks server. Just the domain name changed. < 1321182566 509723 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :because network got renamed < 1321182587 340681 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://whotookspaz.org/~anmaster/images/skyrim/TESV%202011-11-13%2001-03-46-22.png < 1321182592 440355 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks pretty terrible. < 1321182592 641021 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me or do those rocks look just a bit too specular < 1321182595 850236 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes < 1321182596 356118 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://whotookspaz.org/~anmaster/images/skyrim/TESV%202011-11-13%2001-03-38-38.png < 1321182605 155851 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, the game is clearly designed for consoles < 1321182612 130255 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, where you don't really see stuff up close < 1321182625 128298 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the TV is further away than a computer monitor < 1321182645 208283 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, I believe it is snow and ice on them, not sure though < 1321182647 600692 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C4FD.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321182666 14462 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, and there is direct sunlight on parts, while other parts are in shadow < 1321182675 112400 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, eh; we're not exactly the kind of people to start judging a game based on the graphics. < 1321182683 438875 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no snow nor ice, only direct3d parameters < 1321182688 474356 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321182690 576307 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And textures < 1321182695 235865 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1321182704 53064 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I prefer the graphics of Witcher 2. Way better < 1321182710 74211 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And damn, that rock thingy looks specular. < 1321182723 71885 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's some ugly snow, yes. < 1321182730 6983 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1321182739 559952 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, looks better than oblivion < 1321182757 32873 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, it is clearly not up to scratch with high end PC graphics < 1321182774 449172 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR hearing that the system requirements were actually fairly low. < 1321182775 822524 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't look too bad from a distance, I guess. < 1321182794 433215 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, indeed. I'm running it on ultra graphics settings < 1321182794 642879 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, the shiny rocks are a bit offputting. < 1321182824 68460 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played Fallout 3, and it also had shiny rocks everywhere < 1321182826 567599 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, anyway I think consoles like xbos 360 has 512 MB RAM or some such < 1321182827 361216 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You're supposed to go all "ooh, shiny!", not "yuck, shiny!" on it. < 1321182831 915290 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can just pretend all the rocks in Skyrim are muscovite? < 1321182833 919386 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And shiny dirt and shiny rubble < 1321182841 762543 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And shiny concrete pieces < 1321182865 835697 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Possibly polishing dirt is a common occupation in the post-apocalyptic era. < 1321182876 251137 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1321182882 761173 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be all the lasers < 1321182886 145529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, obviously, how else are you meant to get all that radiation off? < 1321182915 179053 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I find that the HUD looks fairly bad < 1321182923 299965 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels out of place in the setting < 1321182958 722349 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry, there will soon be a mod for fix each of those things < 1321182961 122067 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd... prefer bits of paper on the screen? < 1321182961 642901 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a pure aesthetic point of view, the HUD and menus of oblivion were better < 1321182995 592356 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well from the point of view of navigating the menus, skyrim is /way/ better than oblivion < 1321182996 66441 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PixelQuest update < 1321183008 84297 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there will be a mod to make the menus look exactly like Oblivion's < 1321183014 849140 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I find the font used in skyrim is pretty bad too < 1321183017 110996 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, did you respond to my submission already. < 1321183023 195850 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, probably < 1321183023 328081 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, getting to it < 1321183036 614903 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there will be a mod to make females naked < 1321183049 993715 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, and another one to make children killable < 1321183050 143045 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, shush, you're sounding like elliott at his worst. < 1321183055 649917 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe just got a funny idea < 1321183077 656821 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321183086 380498 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: are you sure gamers want to kill them? < 1321183093 158204 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321183106 100576 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't the funny idea, by the way < 1321183109 964155 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Jafet: other funny thing. When you create your character all the attributes are sliders. Including the gender one. However it only have two positions. < 1321183116 432486 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why make it a full length slider < 1321183124 197304 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extensibility? < 1321183128 816966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, yes, because gamers want to kill everything, and the inability to kill a class of things just makes them want to kill them all the more. < 1321183131 739848 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :maaaybe < 1321183140 112977 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The gender-slider's something elliott also complained about. < 1321183141 666178 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, Simon and elliott have both poked fun at that. < 1321183150 283830 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, and yogscast too < 1321183157 129800 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, snap :P < 1321183162 280649 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to get Skyrim < 1321183164 258801 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for a while anyway < 1321183176 757701 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can think of worse things gamers might think of doing to children in a video game < 1321183187 150096 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 eur sounds a bit much for a game with only two genders, yes. < 1321183188 919903 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah unless you are a die hard TES fan, you are better off waiting for some of the bugs to get fixed < 1321183193 271175 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it has quite a few bugs < 1321183225 135470 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, take them to the theatre to see the Nutcracker Suite as a hip-hop interpretive dance? < 1321183236 379814 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :like dragons crash landing on a slope. The rag doll physics seem to have problem handling that, resulting in some very odd looking animations.l < 1321183240 859346 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/l$// < 1321183263 842240 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb's idea was worse than I thought < 1321183272 993008 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope he doesn't make a mod for that < 1321183277 790284 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1321183304 661966 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey guys, the new game by Bethesda Softworks, it has quite a few bugs" < 1321183313 416489 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what you're getting at < 1321183317 77312 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, XD < 1321183327 126784 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but s < 1321183335 672264 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure, it is fun to play < 1321183360 696251 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1321183473 348259 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, anyway the map screen is an improvement compared to oblivion definitely < 1321183541 755193 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, anyway how can you /not/ think that this font is terrible: http://whotookspaz.org/~anmaster/images/skyrim/TESV%202011-11-13%2001-05-10-37.png < 1321183620 991673 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh and it generally doesn't look as bad when you play it. After all you are generally moving, that tends to help. < 1321183652 931736 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1321183670 34530 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, are you going to play skyrim? < 1321183713 147206 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321183773 696805 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, sure you said it was a bit expensive above, but that doesn't mean you won't play it. After all it was "launched" on torrents before it was launched officially, so it won't really be hard to get hold of. < 1321183931 632763 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might just wait until they release a cheapo version in a few years. Will see. < 1321184025 451221 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I did with NWN1 and NWN2. < 1321184028 978611 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.skyrimnexus.com/index.php <-- quite a few mods already. And the official modding SDK has not yet been released even... < 1321184046 301593 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I got NWN2 with a graphics card, actually. < 1321184061 969893 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321184321 233044 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bundling games with graphics cards is a funny thing. I got that "G-Police" game with... either the Voodoo2 or some Matrox card. < 1321184487 505036 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, never even heard of that game < 1321184496 454788 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of game was it? < 1321184497 214458 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a shooting thing. < 1321184498 290622 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321184500 182761 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321184512 10857 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, see logs before you pinged out < 1321184517 68659 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't play-play it, but it was impressively threedee for 1997. < 1321184527 683716 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, play-play? < 1321184534 895677 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously play. < 1321184539 445637 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The game made use of cutting edge technology such as force–feedback joysticks, 3D sound and Direct3D Hardware Acceleration and was largely well-received. Critics noted that the game's graphics were some of the most technically impressive of the time." < 1321184539 553314 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1321184552 169346 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The gameplay involves piloting VTOL aircraft resembling helicopters, engaging in combat with enemies and protecting allies." < 1321184564 240534 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really my sort of thing, but it looked impressive. < 1321184587 148032 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, away-away; it's this "father's day" thing today at least in Finland. < 1321184588 36506 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1321184594 667330 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321184600 906937 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you are going to your father? < 1321184608 478873 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, or are you a father? < 1321184614 511206 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former. < 1321184620 371761 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1321184623 839781 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free food, basically. :p < 1321184643 828997 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321184673 472290 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :We "did" my wife's father yesterday; so free dinners for the whole weekend, even. < 1321184691 277117 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeew. < 1321184709 719101 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ? < 1321184719 713889 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway those quotes looks strange < 1321184724 620642 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : We "did" my wife's father yesterday; < 1321184731 699331 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that sort of "do". < 1321184732 501165 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh right < 1321184743 652491 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the quotes I would never had noticed the issue < 1321184770 650912 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a bus to catch. -> < 1321184781 946560 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover, anyway how can you /not/ think that this font is terrible: http://whotookspaz.org/~anmaster/images/skyrim/TESV%202011-11-13%2001-05-10-37.png < 1321184783 501990 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well? < 1321184818 713211 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of food, breakfast time < 1321184823 435572 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not /terrible/, it's just not curly and serifed enough to fit well with a fantasy setting. < 1321184844 704767 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Exactly. It is terrible in the context. < 1321184848 40843 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb|Not-Here < 1321184853 599971 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would work fine in other places, sure < 1321184873 278505 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, eh; it's a bit incongruous, but if you can't see beyond the font... < 1321184887 788418 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, then I'm an elliott clone? < 1321184915 999126 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, sure, I can play the game. It isn't a game blocking "bug" for me. It just annoys me. < 1321185055 146394 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dYf0IfDz5Y&t=1m3s < 1321185059 879710 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those moons.... < 1321185105 167616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My inner physicist is screaming, of course. < 1321185184 89651 :Taneb|Not-Here!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321185413 245753 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321185683 84203 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321185708 34686 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1321186323 499813 :pkzip!~a@94.159.192.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321186340 916526 :pkzip!~a@94.159.192.94 PART :#esoteric < 1321186547 381170 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1321186547 584730 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1321186553 415850 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's good < 1321186811 245208 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I hope that video is actually either a minecraft mod or a skyrim mod. I don't think so however :( < 1321187612 903939 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1321187613 121629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1321187624 723348 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, my IRC connection seems fine < 1321187793 982600 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1321187818 519406 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1321187979 804214 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/VfBeP.png < 1321188076 246839 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1321188101 774601 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1321188248 619976 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is S and K combinatory logic still turing-complete if it's restricted to balanced binary trees? < 1321188277 618159 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1321188287 896076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just pad out with ``skks as required. < 1321188314 407053 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1321188316 648126 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's (``skk), plural s, of course. < 1321188322 354883 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not actually need to know that at all < 1321188422 928962 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be a bit more complicated than that, since that only lets you add two extra levels, but I think you can pad to an odd number too. < 1321188472 632336 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kj;oahgua;ewighage < 1321188484 391076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scan.co.uk wiped my basket. < 1321188485 794907 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. < 1321189268 138525 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what were you buying? < 1321189401 304540 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321189823 193212 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer bits. < 1321190289 469800 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321190387 343609 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might learn Lisp < 1321190411 346711 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere at the end of my list of languages to learn < 1321190565 528511 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ah < 1321190591 285413 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, so soon you will be able to play all the games from that humble bundle that you complained you couldn't play < 1321190606 622345 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I really recommend trying out Trine. 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:#esoteric < 1321192250 88344 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1321192250 901068 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: mr president, ladies and gentlemen, what was best for the future programme is essential for us to move ahead in the united kingdom divided over a well-known rock in the southern part of europe. < 1321192256 621173 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1321192257 26832 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl* ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1321192279 833994 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style agora < 1321192280 286772 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: agora (a large selection of Agora rules, both current and historical) < 1321192283 294849 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1321192283 910618 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: as soon as possible after the next substantial change occurs in the manner specified in the registrar's report. this rule, including the riff-raff; and the < 1321192466 402390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321192651 765156 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1321193131 470407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321193935 765824 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321194049 531557 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321194085 246744 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1321194124 509068 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321194128 794087 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1321194187 610675 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321194360 321457 :Taneb|Hovercraft!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1321194679 253375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1321194686 250003 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :94) and an AMICED literal would presumably /add/ info to the source whatever info gets added, that's the value that the AMICED doesn't contain it's all falling into place < 1321194690 444728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, fungot responds faster. < 1321194690 626286 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i) the amendment index when the motion. c) auction currency is the registrar shall, as described in other rules, < 1321194700 692858 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that INTERCAL style? < 1321194702 750262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1321194702 897654 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora* alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1321194731 133390 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1321194731 385876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1321194744 232700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it looks pretty agorish to me < 1321194745 771912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fungot, btw < 1321194746 28065 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if such a transfer must additionally document every change made to perform an action, or rule-- or other problem, a gambler holds or has exactly one < 1321195302 402212 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-43.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1321195361 407534 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321195709 960806 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you know of any languages similar to Eodermdrome? < 1321195722 860048 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for insiration on graph-rewriting languages. < 1321195724 109215 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kolmogorov machines operate on similar principles. < 1321195762 493543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: there's one other, which is similar but more complex, based on Kolmogorov machines < 1321195769 460131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget who wrote it, but it's on the wiki somewhere < 1321195809 925621 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I have in mind something more like a CA than a rewriting machine. < 1321195822 146576 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of specifying rewrite rules in the program you specify the initial shape of the graph < 1321195839 601800 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the relationships between states in the graphs cause the graph to change every turn. < 1321196462 496145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's similar to the other language, except it has fixed rewrite rules and a program is the initial state, rather than having a fixed initial state and a program is the rewrite rules? < 1321196499 710646 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1321196514 677116 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I don't know if they'll end up being exactly like rewrite rules. < 1321196554 458418 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :te states are all going to be 0-9, and I was going to have higher numbers take priority over lower numbers perhaps. < 1321196579 94242 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 9-rules activate before 8-rules before ... < 1321196637 108464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Ordered computerons. < 1321196637 304551 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1321196823 692901 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321196994 901167 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321197224 379365 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321197865 247909 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321198075 387792 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321198173 437033 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes SOON THEY WILL REVOLUTIONARIZE COMPYUTING < 1321198272 993152 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes unlike eodermwekjiwrdrome there can be more than one node with the same state. < 1321198291 790939 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as how the node will behave can depend on its degree. < 1321198627 506004 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-223-211.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321198627 551401 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-232-190.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321198746 225706 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1321199477 495688 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321199797 178490 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, eodermwekjiwrdrome? < 1321199815 368104 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1321199836 887380 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Eodermdrome < 1321199853 713147 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, that is Eodermdrome, not eodermwekjiwrdrome... < 1321199931 533785 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooohhhhhhhh < 1321199934 906187 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. -_- < 1321200941 650898 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :eodermwekjiwrdrome was a better name :( < 1321201026 678260 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-100.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321201032 767756 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321201058 918608 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-223-211.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1321201156 933652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1321201331 480393 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321201604 822945 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321201680 354928 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321201686 128469 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1321201938 953647 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1321202129 668273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1321202130 50611 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1321202132 545393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/w/index.php?title=Excela&diff=25170&oldid=13100 < 1321202137 204532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is this vandalism, or..? < 1321202144 284424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes < 1321202150 691474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see last line < 1321202280 552148 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1321202444 422352 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :safe pills? yesssss < 1321203136 56617 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1321203138 578677 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-17-34.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321203235 681782 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321203415 10953 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-43.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: done < 1321203588 671780 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I want to try these CRAAAZY patches. < 1321203608 752272 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: feels good, man. < 1321203622 199438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You mean Transactional HackEgo? :P < 1321203636 157189 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have nooooo idea how much time I spent working out the commit logic. < 1321203695 913503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I mostly blame BitBucket's diff for not realising that I rewrote tr_60.cmd :P < 1321203808 466901 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: THEY'RE PRETTY CRAZY REGARDLESS < 1321203828 431021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Pfft, lib/server is the only even vaguely crazy part < 1321203866 208867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr_60.cmd is a simple script that forwards messages to a server, lib/{fetch,revert} is just a moving of code, and lib/sandbox is a glorified UMLBox wrapper :P < 1321203881 312552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If 25 lines can be called glorification.) < 1321203884 498128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : '-R3128:127.0.0.1a:3128', < 1321203887 330923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, is that "a" meant to be there? < 1321203894 998609 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol no < 1321203927 467072 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Fix't < 1321203930 645030 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1321204202 808101 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lib/server needs to already have IRC_SOCK set? >_< < 1321204220 302599 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well... it could receive the IRC socket location as a first message? < 1321204225 700338 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You could just make a FIFO, man :P < 1321204247 443648 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIFO's had problems, sockets are coolerer. < 1321204251 743063 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibot is what sets IRC_SOCK though. < 1321204257 174832 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the runner. < 1321204292 54048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well... you could just make socat start another script rather than the bot directly. < 1321204305 127374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That script would do IRC_SOCK=/dev/stdin lib/server & bot < 1321204314 519928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tweak the server if you'd prefer that though :P < 1321204331 750265 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tweak the server >_< < 1321204349 154222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Okay; how (i.e. how would you like it to get a hold of the IRC socket) < 1321204408 996564 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I frankly don't understand WHY it needs the IRC_SOCKET, but if it does, it should be sent with {a,the} command{,s}. < 1321204430 774141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ...because it sends the output of commands back to the user...? < 1321204441 373949 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, server does that now? < 1321204447 325133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, server handles the running < 1321204453 253939 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the alternative is complicated IPC shit in tr_60.cmd < 1321204472 414469 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowonder :P < 1321204476 671646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll send it with the commands, then < 1321204494 895144 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, otherwise you have a problem with when it generates the first v the second. < 1321204511 594949 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't want to modify multibot for this too X-P < 1321204518 422614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'm guaranteed to always get the same socket for a server run, right, though? i.e. so I can still use a global? :P < 1321204534 682071 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1321204558 926336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Anyway, I don't see how you can avoid modifying multibot, because SERVER_SOCK... oh, you can just set it at the start of the script and it'll propagate. < 1321204560 658427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER MIND :P < 1321204562 101744 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321204619 767827 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321204652 360687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321204674 191471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Updated pull request and pull request's instructions :P < 1321204702 58166 :HackBotLoony!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1321204704 817640 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NameError: name 'sock' is not defined" < 1321204715 461724 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : File "multibot_cmds/lib/server", line 144, in < 1321204723 44222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good! That's good! That's a simple bug. < 1321204724 674794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can fix that :P < 1321204732 59780 :HackBotLoony!foobar@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321204735 268761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : sock, _ = sock.accept() < 1321204754 62618 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(N.B. if you were using Haskell that would never have happened) < 1321204754 595412 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(PS: I think we all agreed that I need more bots on here, yes?) < 1321204771 614720 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I asked Gregor if I could use Haskell < 1321204774 572222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He said no, about three times < 1321204777 374811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now he is paying the price < 1321204778 678630 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know < 1321204785 194168 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Pushed (I won't bother updating the pull request until this works :P) < 1321204786 240024 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm paying the price? < 1321204789 803887 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How am I paying any price? < 1321204791 795170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just pull from my repo :P < 1321204796 336642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you're paying the price... of PAIN. < 1321204803 833148 :HackBotLoony!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1321204807 617711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1321204809 420686 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1321204809 612350 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, don't use ` while HackBotLoony is on I guess X-D < 1321204809 657786 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321204820 814362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, what's its prefix < 1321204827 679595 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, is that its prefix < 1321204830 643183 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1321204837 528520 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is it's prefix. < 1321204841 540687 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just shared with HackEgo :P < 1321204853 39324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1321204853 950062 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1321204858 484152 :HackBotLoony!foobar@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321204859 887232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well, not even help works P: < 1321204860 853444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1321205080 679367 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1321205840 716127 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321206020 767704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Simple undefined variable/type error count so far: About 15 < 1321206030 940141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THOUGHT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO KNOW < 1321206069 230047 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I feel like that amount is already saying something about your attention to detail < 1321206163 431291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yeah, only subhumans forget to import a module, or type .read instead of .recv, or append a list to a list of arguments BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT IN PYTHON IT ACTUALLY ENDS UP AS A TUPLE < 1321206172 238132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I loooove Python < 1321206589 488617 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321207705 823744 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-100.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1321208333 460501 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-100.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321208913 261810 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-150-147.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321208988 828773 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-150-147.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321210122 203974 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I notice a distinct lack of language designed with syntax styled after the first chapter of Genesis. < 1321210131 360642 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*languages < 1321210195 637904 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :And on the seventh line, God said, "let there be a floating point number named x, and let it equal 3.0," and God saw that it was good. < 1321210284 734078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: If I implement all the fingerprints Mycology tests will you add Shiro to the result ranking? :p < 1321210321 675784 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm there is a place in the TES universe called "Elsweyr", I never thought much about it until I heard it voice acted today... Sounded like "elsewhere" XD < 1321210333 232677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321210345 24075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, btw did you check the rest of the screenshots? < 1321210349 826128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1321210380 971957 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, btw I figured out one reason witcher 2 looks so much better. No first person perspective. You don't get quite as close to the textures that way < 1321210382 548834 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Mostly it needs a homepage and I need the time and interest :-P < 1321210395 229748 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also it genuinely have better textures as well < 1321210408 910731 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Why's it need a homepage :'( < 1321210417 445081 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: So that I can link to it :-P < 1321210424 298170 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Github or whatever is fine < 1321210425 550184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: irc://irc.freenode.net/esoteric < 1321210429 360145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1321210432 769565 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a good permalink < 1321210441 687458 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, this is because syntax-based languages are crappy. < 1321210442 990320 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything involving me isn't very perma < 1321210448 885385 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although in your case it's probably better than it usually would be < 1321210455 948742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I only ask because I'm considering starting on Shiro 2 :P < 1321210462 976079 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that? < 1321210464 856811 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, does *every* RPG these day have some sort of crafting system? Why is that so popular. < 1321210468 249743 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ah I see, esoteric programming languages are all about high quality. < 1321210477 863244 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I lost the latest Shiro 1 source and thought of a fairly decent fungespace structure in the meantime < 1321210497 160629 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How'd you manage to lose it < 1321210515 418812 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, I'd move Shiro 1 out once Shiro 2 comes in < 1321210515 597741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: (Basically: Make a HashMap for every 128x128 block of fungespace or so, and have a structure data FS = FS {fs::HashMap ...,, left::FS, right::FS, up::FS, down::FS}; keep track of the FS that the IP is currently in) < 1321210532 575142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I managed to lose it because my computer broke and then I accidentally trashed my backup < 1321210544 221635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: And I meant Shiro 2, not Shiro 1 < 1321210555 75110 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1321210563 879053 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in any case, it's mostly about me taking the time and effort < 1321210575 108612 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what if it also had a unique faith-based paradigm. < 1321210579 406022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: This is why you should be a robot? < 1321210581 528337 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you have no proof that the program executes < 1321210586 709109 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you simply must believe that it did. < 1321210588 150731 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I suppose? < 1321210614 607256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, been done. < 1321210617 185387 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, there was alchemy and enchanting in oblivion. Now there is also smithing, a skill used for smithing (as expected) but also smelting (yeah okay) and tanning (what, how is that related to smithing?) < 1321210655 900123 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Did ATHR ever get a real spec < 1321210660 653251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to make sure Shiro 2 could support it < 1321210670 146067 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, is there also wood burning, lye making, butchery, cooking and soapmaking? < 1321210733 701903 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I believe there is wood cutting, ore mining and some other such stuff. They don't seem to have any skill connected to them that I noticed. Can't say I have done a lot of those tasks though yet < 1321210739 935314 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, and yes there is cooking < 1321210744 876462 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue what skill < 1321210766 435963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, hmm, how does mining work? < 1321210773 454865 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world isn't mutable, I assume. < 1321210778 169108 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1321210801 921099 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-100.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Sounds like they took a really, truly insignificant part of D&D and took it seriously. :P < 1321210807 591175 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, put pickaxe in inventory, find vein of ore, target it and press e. Wait a bit to get some ore out of it, then a message "the vein is exhausted" < 1321210820 635812 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what bit of D&D would that be? < 1321210835 375101 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-100.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The Craft(...) skills, of course. < 1321210837 102096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: So it's exactly like Minecraft :P < 1321210842 51255 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and you can operate saw mills. < 1321210851 977810 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, quite, did you see that link, I think Phantom_Hoover posted it? < 1321210852 76877 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Elder "Scrolls" < 1321210857 239405 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which link < 1321210860 916959 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-100.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Profession(...) < 1321210861 903726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1321210862 792360 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :see log < 1321210863 782869 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I skipped through it < 1321210865 498944 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, to youtube < 1321210867 461502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What link? < 1321210876 634680 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :of minecraft+skyrim < 1321210885 969950 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, wasn't it you who posted it? < 1321210888 979534 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-100.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is really, *insanely* insignificant, and I find it amazing that it's even in D20. < 1321210897 729859 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, heh < 1321210909 532007 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well Skyrim uses it's own system. Not D20 afaik < 1321210912 456460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah, that was me. < 1321210936 743366 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-100.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: BAH < 1321210960 32832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What if I make it beat CCBI on Fungicide :P < 1321210962 509797 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-100.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Anyways, that shit's stupid. < 1321210980 664721 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, hm? Not really here. It kind of fits in. < 1321210989 660171 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can of course improve weapons too < 1321210993 306467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :using a grindstone < 1321211007 738672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: C'mooooooon, ATHR draft < 1321211008 691442 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I think you uses that for all types of weapons. Let me check.... < 1321211019 249789 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'd still prefer that it had a URL and I'd still need to take the time :-P < 1321211021 811247 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you can improve maces and bows at a grindstone < 1321211025 515805 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't make sense < 1321211030 55438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: A URL is not a problem :P < 1321211031 386768 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (Doing Fungicide is a lot worse than just Mycology) < 1321211032 52743 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, !logs < 1321211047 474391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You used rafb.net back then, I distinctly recall < 1321211055 354215 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I don't have it now and it isn't complete afaik. There wasn't really all that much interest in it either < 1321211068 755306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Do you have a backup of the ATHR spec, then :P < 1321211075 870359 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm pretty sure it is in the efunge repo. Anyway if it isn't, then I can't get it atm. I'm booted into windows for skyrim < 1321211082 126134 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would be on my linux partition < 1321211101 157394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks.
< 1321211108 610983 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway I'm reserving the right to change it. Just as a warning. < 1321211112 196367 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Evidently not < 1321211120 535066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, you cannot have that right, I will sue you < 1321211127 7122 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because iirc some of the stuff about communication between threads was kind of broken < 1321211132 921142 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, didn't work very well < 1321211138 65271 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1321211139 149849 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't care, just need to figure out how much I need to isolate < 1321211155 656454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not in the efunge repo < 1321211157 919940 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah, well look in the non-trunk branch of efunge on launchpad < 1321211163 231689 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is definitely not in trunk < 1321211168 154390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1321211168 700932 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in the ATHR feature branch < 1321211178 204942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How < 1321211181 826101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :launchpad is impossible to navigate < 1321211187 425054 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1321211200 582346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://code.launchpad.net/efunge < 1321211202 809382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have no ATHR branch < 1321211210 480848 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://code.launchpad.net/~anmaster/efunge/supervisor-tree < 1321211213 948890 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :lp:~anmaster/efunge/supervisor-tree < 1321211215 6431 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1321211215 89878 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is the feature branch to add ATHR." < 1321211216 767152 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is there < 1321211219 299677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good name :P < 1321211241 978604 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that name is after the major internal restructuring that was required for it < 1321211251 270589 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it makes sense < 1321211267 238854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is not in there, either < 1321211275 331688 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comment why, not what. (Same applies to this?) < 1321211299 352412 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Branch names are more like variable names < 1321211307 425578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: index, not count_for_loop < 1321211314 931929 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, then I will upload it next time I boot to windows, unless it is on my laptop < 1321211317 324278 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll check that < 1321211321 885738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Variable names should definitely by what, not how or why :P < 1321211324 305712 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Maybe < 1321211337 98666 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes it is < 1321211349 873881 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, branch names don't seem obviously neither "what" nor "why" < 1321211355 336290 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double negative whee < 1321211369 428239 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Branch names should be "what-goal", I think < 1321211374 131355 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway I'm going to rework the "book" thingy probably when I finish implementing it. Because it didn't feel right. < 1321211378 4630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So athr or athr-support < 1321211383 801878 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/cHEi < 1321211387 826179 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That seems like "why" < 1321211389 268938 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, there you have it < 1321211391 690369 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Thanks < 1321211394 989844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What would what be, then < 1321211397 752752 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "goal" is a "why" thing < 1321211405 274519 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "what" is what it is currently, supervisor-tree < 1321211415 313654 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, we're violently agreeing on what the branch name should be < 1321211423 95359 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just not on the meanings of "what" and "why" :P < 1321211447 136810 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also thinking that it might not be clear-cut in general < 1321211451 602772 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about? < 1321211454 895251 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some cases you might prefer something like the current name < 1321211464 93991 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not in this case IMO :-P < 1321211478 6643 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: About why your branch name isn't "athr" or equivalent < 1321211492 229448 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, whatever < 1321211526 470991 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, idea for future ubuntu code name: Sinking Sloth < 1321211564 994581 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they always go in alphabetical order? < 1321211582 689456 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't start that way < 1321211588 694130 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think they are doing that now < 1321211613 171579 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1321211757 873582 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They went alphabetical pretty fast. < 1321211785 557643 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder which Q-animal they will pick; it's the next they need to decide. < 1321211812 950042 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quilled Porcupine < 1321211930 483549 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the quagga. < 1321211941 650761 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. quagga, Equus quagga -- (mammal of South Africa that resembled a zebra; extinct since late 19th century) < 1321211950 102180 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :African and all. < 1321211958 513914 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOUTH Africam < 1321211965 648872 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/m/n/ < 1321211978 931028 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :quail < 1321211989 213437 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantitative Quail < 1321212068 640910 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with skyrim atm is that no one really knows the answers yet. So if you are truly stuck at something you can't just go look it up. < 1321212123 596431 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's funny how so many Minecraft players are boycotting Skyrim due to the Scrolls lawsuit, when Notch himself has got Skyrim < 1321212154 352862 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, they are what... lol < 1321212171 938673 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course the quetzal, and the quetzalcoatl. < 1321212211 139362 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Quiet Quahog an ode to the sturdy mollusk" < 1321212227 721520 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames always has the best suggestions. < 1321212474 940036 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I get fsck ro tun on reboot? < 1321212477 803678 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1321212481 808166 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ro tun/to run/ < 1321212526 343753 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: It'll already run fsck when it has to. < 1321212577 798193 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what about when you skip it? will it try again on next reboot? < 1321212586 247885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolly < 1321212659 68483 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I recall, it will keep trying if you keep skipping it. < 1321212663 261147 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, why skip it? It takes like 10-15 seconds anyway even on a huge partition with lots of small files, at least for me < 1321212688 92512 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I am helping someone with their shit < 1321212694 191510 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not knowing things at the same time. < 1321212694 341097 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1321212696 571467 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun. < 1321212720 398836 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so this episode was about the bold "plan" to retake DS9, but it seems the "plan" is essentially "collect all the ships and fly to DS9 in a straight line" < 1321212763 578074 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's certainly "bold". < 1321212808 486360 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You forgot "stop when you reach DS9". < 1321212844 321863 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I'd know better, but seems like a stupid way to do space warfare to take your blob of ships, meet another blob of ships and start shooting < 1321212982 588322 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, in this case "stop when you reach the enemy fleet between you and DS9" < 1321213010 348152 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, that's how tactics work in DS9, duh. < 1321213027 23870 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets particularly silly when they have space blockades which they can't go around for some reason. < 1321213074 197979 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :equally silly, they haven't managed to get rid of the treaty on cloaking devices even though they're in a full-on war against this dominion thing < 1321213118 930210 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since the romulans are supposed to be allies at this time < 1321213133 97019 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I should try making a panorama from skyrim later. As far as I can tell there is no parallax. < 1321213163 888628 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, don't knock it, at least they *used* them occasionally. < 1321213373 422241 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR that there was one episode of Trek-something where someone (Picard, Kirk?) had an OMG WOW breakthrough idea of avoiding a circular space blockade minefield by (gasp!) going "up"/"down". < 1321213379 114280 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three-dimensional thinking! < 1321213392 161700 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that was Wrath of Khan? < 1321213407 368337 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I might've just read about it from http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Two-DSpace or something. < 1321213418 152481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also once in DS9 the Klingons put mines around Bajor, since they apparently have like a billion mines lying around. < 1321213502 69082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1321213529 947256 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :""His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking." < 1321213530 29536 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :— Spock, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" -- apparently so. < 1321213558 996666 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genetically engineered supermen are notoriously incapable of grasping the concept of height. < 1321213632 297076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except those which cannot grasp left-right, instead. < 1321213740 660512 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can probably weave this into yet another complicated Bashir silliness, but I can't be bothered. < 1321213865 687596 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: they didn't have a million mines, so they built self-replicating mines < 1321213920 600080 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which was apparently an original idea in the 24th century) < 1321214065 144636 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I still haven't seen any starship meet an upside-down starship (except when it's a dead one - then they flip over) < 1321214102 686586 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's a protocol to decide which way is up when two starships meet, and the losing ship flips to make it less confusing < 1321214114 630273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1321214115 744440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1321214132 599410 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "Another reason "Genesis" is considered a particularly bad episode (in addition to the Evolutionary Levels crap) is the fact that, when the Captain's shuttle returns, they can tell something's wrong...because the Enterprise isn't straight on." < 1321214134 534390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe they all do it so Bashir doesn't get confused? < 1321214141 663602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, try to imagine that on a 3-D interface (in fact, play Frontier: Elite 2 and think yourself lucky if you survive your first "dogfight")." < 1321214150 456960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Ha ha ha it should have been two-dimensional. < 1321214157 808326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asteroids II: the best. < 1321214205 762660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : [...] (except when it's a dead one - then they flip over) <-- so basically space is an ocean and spaceships are goldfish. < 1321214226 288316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the first being, of course, a trope.) < 1321214231 401717 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah, maybe it's a holdback from before they banished all the genetically engineered people < 1321214309 266033 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you ever use (x <$ guard y) or (guard y >> x) in Haskell? < 1321214383 465119 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are useful with the Maybe monad, and the second one useful with the list monad too. < 1321214468 729733 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you ask some mathematicians what the MonadPlus laws should be? < 1321214606 311526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan < 1321214609 282839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 needs a mathematician < 1321214678 47536 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my opinion it should be the left zero law and monoid laws, but maybe a mathematician will know better < 1321214716 183944 :Sgeo|chromcrash!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1321214756 461255 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321214773 552612 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-100.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1321214848 310732 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ./testlm-disk.pl ../twungot/tokens.bin.irc ../twungot/model.bin.irc 3 mathematicians do it with < 1321214848 356254 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematicians do it with tail calls in some situations. :o < 1321214848 356402 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematicians do it with types, give you the vector of interrupt handlers. error code UNK (UNK (close connection)) < 1321214848 356502 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematicians do it with sed :) cool! println works fine?! i posted the interface docs the other day. did it wrong. < 1321215177 267579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : A memory efficient SKI interpreter would try to find all the ``k's and all the `i's before doing ```s's <-- also find applications of ``sii and cache them. that way you can get efficient y combinators. (i think. i thought of this in the context of lazy-k.) < 1321215211 521413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i assumed he meant a _relevant_ mathematician. < 1321215257 505013 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: All mathematicians are interchangeable. < 1321215269 685553 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the technical term is "isomorphic". < 1321215276 879436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style iwcs < 1321215277 322350 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: iwcs (Irregular Webcomic scripts) < 1321215281 678608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Pontificate. < 1321215282 196392 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: of all, the first one was a complete the binding the crocodile's jaws are tied us up and left us here! we're the last! it is! < 1321215285 649823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1321215291 596478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1321215305 670280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the scripts < 1321215326 790205 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321215328 756306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I scraped them :) < 1321215339 299008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. for the good of mankind. < 1321215349 925380 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I no longer have to think about why REISUB wasn't working < 1321215474 992676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1: were you using Windows? < 1321215487 387417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a reasonably obvious explanation for REISUB not working < 1321215496 950745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : eodermwekjiwrdrome was a better name :( <-- no it's not < 1321215518 917234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that one also nonplanar as a graph? < 1321215534 227829 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using Linux. Was being the operative word. < 1321215546 318535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'd assume it's not a _complete_ graph < 1321215553 929821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably need to enable magic SysRq < 1321215587 491958 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I could even touch SysRq right now, I'd be much happier than I am < 1321215608 283957 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye Gregor. < 1321215619 911033 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably need to enable magic < 1321215621 383163 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dropped my computer, and the USB stick I was running off of broke < 1321215646 759230 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why you run Linux of SD cards! < 1321215764 549134 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that something that could actually be done? < 1321215780 918934 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done it < 1321215791 634092 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably not as fast as a USB stick < 1321215811 381592 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.o < 1321215822 226999 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be safer... < 1321215830 652620 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to run Haiku of one, too, but it wouldn't boot < 1321215843 68725 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much HD space would I need to reasonably use MonoDevelop? < 1321215863 865469 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God knows < 1321216127 981711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1: STOP DROPPING YOUR FUCKING COMPUTER < 1321216179 544422 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, STOP FUCKING YOUR COMPUTER DROPPINGS < 1321216184 926047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's planar < 1321216217 48083 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not healthy < 1321216221 629768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : /---\ < 1321216223 618179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :j - k - e - o \ < 1321216223 663611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ /|\ /|\ \ < 1321216223 663779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i - w-r-d /| | < 1321216223 663882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : \|\-/ / / < 1321216225 944423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : m---/ / < 1321216228 490404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : \---/ < 1321216237 2875 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4371b.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321216305 673690 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got kerning to work with typesetSimpleString in Graphics.DVI but I am having a bit of problem to try to figure out ligaturing < 1321216344 94763 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know they are correct; I have compared them with results from TeX) < 1321216371 496061 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321216389 906005 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321216709 569065 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANNOUNCEMENT: < 1321216712 232968 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a kitty. < 1321216726 801673 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no! < 1321216784 640487 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, you already announced that. < 1321216784 818931 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1321216948 244069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard those announcements for a long time. it may not be the same kitty. maybe this is a descendant of the original one. < 1321216970 29135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is now a huge scary thing. < 1321216971 592572 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Catsplosion < 1321217024 691463 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: KITTY. < 1321217295 68679 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1321217517 908967 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello greasemonkey < 1321217524 74881 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :'lo < 1321217823 766213 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let foo x = (x:foo (x+1)) in foo 1 < 1321217824 824106 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28... < 1321217850 422034 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1.. < 1321217851 661480 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1321217854 174440 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..] < 1321217855 200266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28... < 1321217859 483984 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1321217859 666757 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easier way < 1321217881 926895 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fib x y = (x:(fib y (x+y))) in fib 1 1 < 1321217883 66648 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,1... < 1321217903 29555 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((1:) . scanl (+) 1) < 1321217904 754421 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,1... < 1321217930 941838 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is where i show that i don't know shit about the haskell standard library < 1321217945 249852 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :map (\ x -> x * x) [1..] < 1321217951 116680 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\ x -> x * x) [1..] < 1321217952 93477 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321217952 829101 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1321217956 258054 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (^2) [1..] < 1321217957 226755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321217963 610292 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalm
< 1321217972 344385 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (join(*)) [1..] < 1321217973 390179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321217986 776151 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i forget what fold (foldl / foldr ?) is for < 1321217994 895678 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t foldr < 1321217995 845208 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b. (a -> b -> b) -> b -> [a] -> b < 1321218000 126049 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any further questions? < 1321218001 80777 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (*) [1..] [1..] < 1321218002 167384 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321218008 116715 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1' (+) [1..10] < 1321218009 246706 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 55 < 1321218016 443318 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1321218029 480099 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join.zipWith(*)$[1..] < 1321218030 482876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[a] -> a' against inferred type `[a]' < 1321218031 819259 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> tail [1,2,5] < 1321218032 588282 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAH < 1321218032 790462 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,5] < 1321218047 345454 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join (zipWith(*)) [1..] < 1321218048 634485 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321218054 436072 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually. < 1321218057 133442 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1,3..] < 1321218058 52084 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27,29,31,33,35,37,39,41,43,45,47,49,51,5... < 1321218061 326006 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yay < 1321218064 763941 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith(*) `join` [1..] -- That's nice. < 1321218065 805958 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321218095 743834 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[x^2|x <- [1..]] < 1321218097 556169 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [x^2|x <- [1..]] < 1321218098 499014 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321218099 536132 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the one which cuts a list off after a certain point? < 1321218104 714443 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :take < 1321218110 927761 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 10 [1..] < 1321218111 884689 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10] < 1321218113 798440 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmkay < 1321218142 237123 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`take` [1,3..]) [1..] < 1321218143 328406 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1],[1,3],[1,3,5],[1,3,5,7],[1,3,5,7,9],[1,3,5,7,9,11],[1,3,5,7,9,11,13],[... < 1321218146 411576 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1321218152 932659 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And takeWhile is like that, but it cuts a list off based on a function a->Bool < 1321218158 810606 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\x -> foldl 0 (take x [1,3..])) [1..] < 1321218159 973004 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Num.Num [t]) < 1321218160 163283 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_10131' at takeWhile (!=10) [1..] -- for instance < 1321218180 68451 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `!=' < 1321218181 983401 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAH < 1321218184 180427 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> takeWhile (/=10) [1..] -- for instance < 1321218185 213820 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9] < 1321218192 59971 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\x -> foldr (+) (take x [1,3..])) [1..] < 1321218193 49730 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Num.Num [t]) < 1321218193 334580 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_1131' at map (\x -> foldd1' (+) (take x [1,3..])) [1..] < 1321218219 834799 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `foldd1'' < 1321218221 51153 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1321218223 733250 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\x -> foldl1' (+) (take x [1,3..])) [1..] < 1321218224 836973 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321218228 750245 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1321218236 114443 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's probably a nice way to curry that < 1321218239 249400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like a scanr to me < 1321218244 811311 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :map (\x -> sum (take x [1,3..])) [1..] < 1321218247 55346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanr (+) 0 [1,3..] < 1321218248 611920 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [*Exception: stack overflow < 1321218251 634735 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\x -> sum (take x [1,3..])) [1..] < 1321218252 548825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanl (+) 0 [1,3..] < 1321218252 737250 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321218253 563768 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,... < 1321218260 167828 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanl1 (+) [1,3..] < 1321218261 70414 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321218262 57322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: Tada < 1321218265 495057 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1321218281 609262 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1,3,6..] < 1321218282 619931 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `..' < 1321218286 844289 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope that doesn't exist < 1321218296 709808 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we know have about a dozen ways to make an infinite list of squares in Haskell < 1321218300 911041 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1321218305 442708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321218311 116089 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ k/ / < 1321218314 189794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1321218318 908971 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must say it is a lovely language when you're not getting bombarded with type errors < 1321218373 315553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: I prefer dynamically typed languages, where the type errors result in silent breakage when you least expect it. < 1321218404 205351 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer my statically typed languages to be explicitly typed < 1321218414 882719 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\x -> x * (x+1) / 2) [1..] < 1321218415 850642 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.0,3.0,6.0,10.0,15.0,21.0,28.0,36.0,45.0,55.0,66.0,78.0,91.0,105.0,120.0,... < 1321218418 237617 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should learn a few things about category theory, too. < 1321218424 594897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: You mean you... prefer having to write out a type signature for every value? < 1321218440 461481 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanl1 (+) [1..] < 1321218441 482005 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55,66,78,91,105,120,136,153,171,190,210,231,253,27... < 1321218442 397415 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, at least you know damn well what thing it is < 1321218458 137327 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I write Haskell program, I do write a type signature for every top level declaraion < 1321218460 434943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: That's why there's a strong Haskell convention to put a type signature on every top-level value < 1321218466 612430 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having to specify one for every single subexpression would be insane < 1321218479 387997 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmkay < 1321218482 1870 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sometimes for subexpressions too < 1321218489 781770 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not all subexpressions < 1321218494 730647 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the syntax for that again? < 1321218495 907954 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\x -> x * (x+1) `div` 2) [1..] < 1321218496 881780 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55,66,78,91,105,120,136,153,171,190,210,231,253,27... < 1321218503 517935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: foo :: type < 1321218505 925488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :main :: IO () < 1321218508 143999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = putStrLn "hi" < 1321218521 59619 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanl1 (+) [1..] < 1321218521 439137 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((2 :: Int) + (2 :: Int)) :: Int < 1321218521 960541 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :addtwo :: Num -> Num < 1321218522 362204 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55,66,78,91,105,120,136,153,171,190,210,231,253,27... < 1321218522 523431 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1321218524 634357 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :expr :: Int -> Int -> [Int] < 1321218525 714066 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ would that be right? < 1321218533 296103 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm < 1321218537 165728 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :addtwo :: Num -> Num -> Num < 1321218539 23407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: Num isn't a type < 1321218539 716362 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: ^ < 1321218543 580252 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm < 1321218549 431041 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :addtwo :: Int -> Int -> Int < 1321218553 604459 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (+) < 1321218553 687542 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively < 1321218554 774610 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Num a) => a -> a -> a < 1321218557 830411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> inits [1,3..] -- > map (`take` [1,3..]) [1..] < 1321218558 944196 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],[1],[1,3],[1,3,5],[1,3,5,7],[1,3,5,7,9],[1,3,5,7,9,11],[1,3,5,7,9,11,13... < 1321218559 639152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :addtwo :: Int -> Int -> Int < 1321218562 535636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :addtwo :: Integer -> Integer -> Integer < 1321218563 123375 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :addtwo a :: a -> a -> a < 1321218565 571294 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1321218566 546146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :addtwo :: (Num a) => a -> a -> a < 1321218566 887531 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321218567 809291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: no < 1321218573 800797 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit hmm < 1321218577 980496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : addtwo :: (Num a) => a -> a -> a < 1321218578 405591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1321218583 833198 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1321218617 568987 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :singletonList :: a -> [a] < 1321218628 949740 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum inits [1,3..] < 1321218630 20974 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[a]' < 1321218630 233121 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `[a1] -> [... < 1321218633 968406 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have "return" and "pure" already make a singleton list < 1321218635 287334 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1321218640 211805 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (sum) inits [1,3..] < 1321218641 138132 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum $ inits [1,3..] < 1321218641 336934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[[a]]' < 1321218641 382109 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `[a1] ->... < 1321218642 68108 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Num.Num [t]) < 1321218642 233992 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_113' at map (sum) (inits [1,3..]) < 1321218645 970896 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,... < 1321218654 834239 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (sum) (tail inits [1,3..]) < 1321218655 759885 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[a]' < 1321218655 976315 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `[a1] -> [... < 1321218660 590403 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (sum) (tail (inits [1,3..])) < 1321218661 674033 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321218664 163821 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :bracketitis < 1321218675 463129 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that's more of a LISP thing to have bracketitis < 1321218689 416576 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map sum $ tail $ inits [1,3..] < 1321218689 933276 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanl1 (+) [1,3..] < 1321218690 466620 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321218690 981411 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169,196,225,256,289,324,361,400,441,48... < 1321218699 259456 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :i DO like how KWrite's scheme highlighter highlights the parentheses in rainbow colours though < 1321218699 964716 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :> scanl1 (+) [1,4..] < 1321218700 955390 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,5,12,22,35,51,70,92,117,145,176,210,247,287,330,376,425,477,532,590,651,... < 1321218707 131230 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :figurate numbers ftw < 1321218726 122865 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so scanl1 (+) [1,3..] is the small one < 1321218765 199573 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it scanl1 is essentially based on fold? < 1321218768 258941 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "scanl1 (+) [1,3..]" < 1321218769 355175 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 18 < 1321218781 428237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src scanl1 < 1321218781 643601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle scanl1 < 1321218781 906924 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scanl1 f (x:xs) = scanl f x xs < 1321218782 21562 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scanl1 _ [] = [] < 1321218782 201572 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude scanl1 :: (a -> a -> a) -> [a] -> [a] < 1321218782 352976 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List scanl1 :: (a -> a -> a) -> [a] -> [a] < 1321218782 398293 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.ByteString.Char8 scanl1 :: (Char -> Char -> Char) -> ByteString -> ByteString < 1321218783 410676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1321218784 1296 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "map (^2) [1..]" < 1321218785 65635 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 14 < 1321218787 449731 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan got it right :P < 1321218789 923342 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src scanl < 1321218790 310597 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one's shorter < 1321218790 399253 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scanl f q ls = q : case ls of < 1321218790 604127 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [] -> [] < 1321218790 711729 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : x:xs -> scanl f (f q x) xs < 1321218791 234312 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: folds and scans are related, but I wouldn't say one is based on the other < 1321218792 286848 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. < 1321218808 133191 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: a scan basically tells you the accumulator of the fold at every step < 1321218814 227160 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1321218821 551282 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321218825 463630 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: as such, a fold is the last element of the list the scan produces < 1321218828 618949 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :so conceptually based, but not based on by implementation? < 1321218874 25204 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :scanl f l (r:rs) = (l:(f l (scanl f r rs))) < 1321218876 235630 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ would that be it? < 1321218887 852092 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So many brackets < 1321218899 183738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreaseMonkey: it was listed above < 1321218901 288626 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except of course there's the case of scanl f l [] = [l]) < 1321218903 955083 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm < 1321219004 475308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting the q : outside both cases makes it lazier, i think. < 1321219026 785120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 1 $ scanl undefined "boo!" undefined < 1321219027 800867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["boo!"] < 1321219088 877100 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321219889 693260 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've drawn another PixelQuest update < 1321219894 421092 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uploading as we speak < 1321219905 501278 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Phantom_Hoover, it isn't your's yet < 1321219911 986659 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1321219927 763363 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're fifth in the queue! < 1321219935 984510 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1321219939 863317 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D? < 1321219955 820836 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do the air vents in the Batman show have a sign that says "AIR VENT"? And a lot of other things are labeled too < 1321219979 262017 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same reason as why one of the pixels in PixelQuest is a pirate. It's funny. < 1321220010 350800 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, Chrome just crashed < 1321220018 102658 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now Firefox takes the helm < 1321220207 429349 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many MML compilers do you know of? < 1321220219 73460 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1321220292 756392 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of SakuraMML which seem very good, however, it is Japanese only and I always get error message about ConvToHalfStep1 so it never works < 1321220374 176405 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it is also Windows only. But it is written in Pascal and there could be Pascal compiler for other computer it could work < 1321220394 22107 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't need to worry about that right now since I currently have Windows. < 1321220443 81033 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PQ update is online < 1321220488 143734 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, DO MINE YOU BASTARD < 1321220501 504606 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. < 1321220502 345930 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is. < 1321220503 464109 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A. < 1321220506 201999 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUEUE!!!! < 1321220522 503221 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES AND I SHOULD TAKE PRIORITY < 1321220533 864343 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you pay for a priority ticket? < 1321220539 993380 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, that's a good idea < 1321220543 809728 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What reason do you think for the priority? < 1321220553 45870 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if PQ becomes my primary occupation < 1321220663 143943 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :PQ? < 1321220669 288778 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PixelQuest < 1321220670 866079 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parti Québecois? < 1321220674 326899 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Progress Quest? < 1321220674 967666 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1321220676 158351 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An MSPAFA I write < 1321220682 654934 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MSPAFA? < 1321220690 527087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdjkfsdklfj < 1321220691 570625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1321220695 151676 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321220696 80664 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im join in acronym party < 1321220699 91022 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MS Paint Adventures Fan Adventure < 1321220706 471934 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multi-Step Partially Advancing Finite Automaton? < 1321220710 219264 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1321220718 441276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's Multi-Step Partially Advancing Finite Automaton < 1321220721 401724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got it right first time < 1321220724 460587 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1321220965 22399 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321221051 983664 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1321221088 13130 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which programs do you use for typeface design? < 1321221123 405304 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't design typefaces < 1321221229 767624 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, iirc you said 3.4 GHz was overkill? Well I'm now waiting for a single threaded computation intensive calculation to complete < 1321221256 929599 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of a few programs; there is FontForge, and a few others, but METAFONT is best one. < 1321221292 766453 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm doing exposure optimisation with hugin on screenshots I took in skyrim. It seems skyrim uses HDR effects, light levels differ quite a bit depending on if the sun is in the view or not < 1321221296 556592 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this might not work out < 1321221300 935298 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, emacs is the best typeface designer. < 1321221314 483425 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, nah, dd + cat and maybe od < 1321221316 88578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, by "3.4 GHz is a waste of money and power", I totally meant "a 3.4 GHz i7 is never faster than 2.9 GHz i7"! < 1321221326 956823 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the command in emacs for typeface designing? < 1321221328 145467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, really? < 1321221331 948181 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why would that be? < 1321221336 16675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolutely. You are interpreting me correctly. < 1321221344 277942 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old M-x design-typeface duh < 1321221346 276843 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, :P < 1321221352 124536 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway I didn't claim you meant that < 1321221365 101872 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but anything that makes this computation faster is a good thing... < 1321221373 154503 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the above is syntactically correct elliott. < 1321221414 940400 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, a "syntactically correct elliott", okaaay.... < 1321221429 809396 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:55 < elliott> Absolutely. You are interpreting me correctly. < 1321221433 45570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There was no "a" in CakeProphet's statement. < 1321221463 8455 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: perhaps you don't understand the syntax of CakeProphet. < 1321221471 5555 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, indeed, but it was funnier that way < 1321221479 295032 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am somewhat confused about what he meant thoughg < 1321221482 951882 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :though* < 1321221501 417200 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a slight play on words. < 1321221516 5202 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHEESH AND NOW IT'S TOTALLY UNFUNNY BECAUSE I HAVE TO EXPLAININ ET AAAAAH < 1321221521 469415 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to the store. hmph. < 1321221572 320678 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah the HDR effects are destroying the pano. If I get time and happen to be in that location when it is cloudy, I will try again < 1321221657 836458 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you are now 4th in the queue < 1321221660 894707 :l96!~l96@2.29.73.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321221674 87250 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, WORK FASTER < 1321221676 220595 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, queue to what? < 1321221703 966883 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1321221710 578631 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having his Pixel embark on a Quest < 1321221717 934567 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, eh? < 1321221727 974272 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1321221738 995888 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :His command for PixelQuest being used < 1321221746 879716 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cracked... has confused backslashes with forward slashes. < 1321221750 296571 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION applauds.
< 1321221758 982176 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, pixelquest being? < 1321221767 661629 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My MSPAFA < 1321221782 322816 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I literally have said this not ten minutes ago < 1321221782 620852 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, can you expand that abbreviation? < 1321221801 521741 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft Paint Adventures Fanatic Adventure < 1321221805 556692 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1321221823 376075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, correct you did literally not say it within the last 10 minutes. < 1321221855 791319 :Zuu!~zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321221855 880734 :Zuu!~zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1321221855 926269 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321221860 825636 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like 20 minutes ago < 1321221867 992527 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1321221868 604408 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk tsk < 1321221890 470187 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I'm able to be misunderstood to be honest < 1321221913 205154 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) < 1321221922 692125 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1321221948 944774 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: kp < 1321221988 891239 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :aesrdtfyguhijokpl[;] < 1321221994 649005 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[;] < 1321222108 994532 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does Canada, Japan, Switzerland have in common? < 1321222117 671469 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ping. < 1321222125 54805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: pong < 1321222125 443577 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, they're all islands? < 1321222125 837093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: They're all US states. < 1321222132 907293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a". < 1321222135 28778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: are you serious :P < 1321222139 700859 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, no < 1321222144 279957 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japan's not an island < 1321222148 107507 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No. < 1321222150 772212 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: No. < 1321222151 476451 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they're all frends < 1321222156 257028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Nor is Switzerland or Canada :P < 1321222157 897270 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what do I clip the ground lead on an anti-static wristband onto? < 1321222158 950397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :switzerland is an anti-island. < 1321222173 224876 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are all famous for their military < 1321222175 919075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: an earthing stud < 1321222182 854192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get ones that plug into the mains earth supply < 1321222186 642384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I do with mine < 1321222191 900563 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I am thinking of a different answer. < 1321222194 450670 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the 4th answer I've had so far. < 1321222197 901996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's basically just a connection to the mains earth pin through a highish-valued resistor < 1321222199 748134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1321222202 759464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them are completely different. < 1321222211 400682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321222231 296675 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't military. It isn't location. It isn't language. Try again. < 1321222232 659047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone answered "an earthed metal part of whatever you're working on", that answer is also correct, although arguably not as good < 1321222235 997616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Isn't that one equivalent to "a grounded socket"? < 1321222241 332718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, OK. < 1321222249 445219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :their flags are all white and red. < 1321222251 607686 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, define an earthed metal part of it? < 1321222256 686800 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. < 1321222259 7650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The case would qualify, I think. < 1321222260 435260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: a metal part of it that is intended to be connected to earth < 1321222262 955168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the case of a computer < 1321222279 595192 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, they're all in the set {Switzerland, Japan, Canada}. < 1321222289 827412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: denmark belongs in that set too. < 1321222302 643579 :l96!~l96@2.29.73.167 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1321222331 442307 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no it doesn't? Don't you even know set theory? < 1321222347 888896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the set of countries with red and white flags. < 1321222362 903905 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not {Switzerland, Japan, Canada}. < 1321222363 992503 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Denmark is not in the set {Switzerland, Japan, Canada} < 1321222364 834839 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't know. I just knew because once I was in a group and we had to draw flags in school, we assign three flag at random and I noticed that I only need the red and white pencil < 1321222376 89180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and if the case is painted? < 1321222378 79650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: wasn't the paper white? < 1321222383 143925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you clip it to the inside of the case < 1321222386 920807 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't remember. < 1321222391 73018 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm absurdly paranoid about blowing out the CPU by accident.) < 1321222391 118203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sort of thing is why people practically use separate earthing studs < 1321222418 492560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, if you've built up a very large charge, a properly designed earthing stud will prevent you shocking /yourself/ when discharging it, which touching the case won't do) < 1321222432 69872 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was a large poster paper < 1321222448 513259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for something like a computer, it's in practice enough just to touch metal surfaces everywhere you walk < 1321222457 934490 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not remember much else about it. < 1321222460 132917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a habit of doing that nowadays after spending four years as an electronic engineer < 1321222474 976701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I note that "earthing stud" returns no relevant google shopping results :P < 1321222482 474895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the maximum charge you can sustain depends on the weather (particularly humidity); on a rainy day there's unlikely to be much of a problem < 1321222545 636861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, but clipping it to the case would be perfectly adequate for normal purposes? < 1321222555 727549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be < 1321222569 432670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming the case is properly earthed, but I don't see why it wouldn't be < 1321222587 952820 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if it's not plugged in, for one thing < 1321222602 406411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic idea is that an unplugged computer has a floating potential, so if you earth it at your own potential, then you can't shock any part of it < 1321222608 781401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the voltages everywhere are measured relative to yourself < 1321222635 141460 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, as long as the case is grounded I presume? < 1321222652 33690 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ais523 made a good point there < 1321222663 749675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so the problem is the CPU equalises charge with you, and then has a voltage relative to the *motherboard*? < 1321222680 772681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: right < 1321222692 564088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not likely to stay for more than a fraction of a second, but a fraction of a second is enough to blow it out < 1321222699 912879 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what do you do with plastic computer cases < 1321222707 474742 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are quite common in laptops especially < 1321222716 180471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there's still likely to be an earth connection somewhere; although, I just earth to mains to avoid all these problems < 1321222716 998318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I thought the problem was discharges between you and the CPU. < 1321222734 431471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well, the problem is that some of the pins of the CPU are at one voltage and some are at another voltage < 1321222744 691321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the voltage discharges through the CPU for a moment, and that gives it an overvoltage < 1321222749 583104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, still unclear on how one earths the case without plugging it in, though. < 1321222758 751462 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes I generally just earthed myself to the mains when working in a computer. Worked fine so far. I guess I touched enough of the case to make it earth itself to me as well... < 1321222766 90449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's not a case of actually earthing it; rather, it's a case of setting its voltage relative to yours < 1321222778 297400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You should just attach the other end of the strap to the inside of the wall socket. < 1321222781 444052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by using its earth connection < 1321222782 490613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION good advice.
< 1321222812 54752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's basically how a mains earthing stud works, except it's designed to make utterly sure it connects to the right pin, and there's a resistor in there to prevent you discharging too quickly and shocking yourself < 1321222819 676891 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that is fairly easy in Sweden, we have earth clips on the side of the socket. < 1321222824 437099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's just like that except not being stupid :P < 1321222853 382321 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321222855 869872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in the UK, the socket has an earth socket where the earth pin goes, and unless there's a pin in it, the live and neutral sockets are covered by plastic < 1321222860 329389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the earth pin is longer on the plugs < 1321222871 563948 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, we have earth clips on the side. Not earth pins at all < 1321222886 976916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes it very hard to touch the live or neutral by mistake, even if you're going around poking wires in there (which is nonetheless not advised) < 1321222892 227309 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, this type of connector: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko < 1321222908 507802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the neutral can easily have enough of a voltage difference from earth to shock you, although it's rarely as much as the live has < 1321222932 458606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on how much current's being used in each of the three phases of live < 1321222951 28979 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway my earthing system I use when working inside a computer is designed to be earthed to the ground clip. < 1321222955 425292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they use multiple phases so that they cancel out for the neutral, and so they only need massive wires to carry the live, the neutral can be carried with a reasonably simple one) < 1321223009 435315 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, afaik you don't get three phase connections in the wall sockets unless it is for like washing machine or oven or such < 1321223013 621854 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so wait, the correct order would be to attach {motherboard, PSU}, attach the two, ground self on PSU, plug in CPU? < 1321223024 412677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you get one of the three phases in the wall sockets < 1321223031 956913 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes obviously < 1321223036 118849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chosen at random < 1321223045 996224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh, you're plugging in a motherboard from scratch? < 1321223048 801603 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, do they use different phases in different parts of the house or the same phase in a given house? < 1321223052 449511 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes. < 1321223060 718292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, you should ground yourself both on the PSU, and on the antistatic foam that the CPU comes in (while it's still in the foam) < 1321223070 97540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to equalise them to each other before you try to plug the CPU in < 1321223077 533959 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, if the former there could be some issues with audio equipment connected to different wall sockets I imagine < 1321223082 972599 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the most complicated thing? < 1321223085 155967 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably other stuff too < 1321223086 477482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the former happens on occasion, the latter is more common < 1321223102 103082 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the former actually seems rather stupid < 1321223102 266717 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so motherboard, PSU, ground on PSU and foam, plug in CPU? < 1321223102 601231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's hard not to do by accident, the antistatic foam is designed so that you're probably going to touch it before you touch the CPU < 1321223103 608657 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4371b.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1321223117 834188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's about right < 1321223131 408899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and try not to touch the pins unless you have to; what causes the problem is different pins getting different voltages < 1321223133 100119 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, attaching motherboard to PSU before grounding? < 1321223142 277154 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is literally made out of static. < 1321223143 33648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ground before you attach anything < 1321223145 991353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :each component individually < 1321223152 675512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the motherboard has chips on too < 1321223171 987624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, OK, but attach motherboard to PSU and ground on PSU before foam and CPU? < 1321223173 735276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ground yourself before you touch any pins of anything; they'll probably be quite near to earth potential, so you should be too < 1321223175 792170 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : and try not to touch the pins unless you have to; what causes the problem is different pins getting different voltages <-- why would you have to? There are other reasons than static to avoid touching the pins as well < 1321223182 531554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover is literally made out of static. < 1321223185 172877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I advise that you start off by touching part of your house's water supply system < 1321223187 624997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DID I NOT TELL YOU ABOUT THE JUMPER < 1321223192 518804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the copper on a radiator, a metal tap, something like that < 1321223202 346152 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm not sure that a bit of human skin fats on a high speed data transfer pin of a CPU is a good idea at all :P < 1321223203 399548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK now I'm imagining Phantom_Hoover just walking around the house touching things. < 1321223204 10651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are typically all connected to mains earth to make it easier to route around a house < 1321223208 353908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I actually /do/ that < 1321223228 932959 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is fully prepared in case the electrons invade. < 1321223233 11939 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He touches a rubber ducky in the bath and is seen. "It's for safety," he says. His spotter leaves, and he touches the rubber ducky a few more times. It isn't for safety, he just likes rubber duckies. < 1321223233 949957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well, OK, but typical sockets are designed to work around the problem < 1321223245 77141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: comment on accuracy of my fanfiction. < 1321223248 629690 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :WER{W))RE{e{E$}]3[[ < 1321223251 723738 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi I'm here now. < 1321223253 87478 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :rejoice. < 1321223259 257939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've cut my finger on IC sockets a few times, though < 1321223259 795871 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I tend to do that as well during winter, due to the dry air the charge tends to build up otherwise. And then you get a strong chock rather than a small one when you touch something grounded anyway < 1321223264 167944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if I've ever done it on the chip itself < 1321223265 939136 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you have not already joiced, you may joice now. < 1321223266 7783 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I don't have a rubber duckie :( < 1321223275 616024 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ouch < 1321223276 56324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: right, it's a valuable life skill < 1321223283 208192 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1321223284 940453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting randomly shocked is annoying < 1321223289 390774 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1321223294 11377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've burnt myself a couple of times with a soldering iron too < 1321223298 301135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's painful but heals quickly < 1321223308 463963 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Soldering irons scare me intensely. < 1321223313 230801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like WIELDING FIRE < 1321223328 108553 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also I don't know what is up with my electrical piano. It builds up a potential compared to the computer case when connected to the computer using USB, but not when connected using a classical midi cable < 1321223331 202493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you seen a solder gun? I haven't, but they're like soldering irons except they heat up and cool down really quickly < 1321223339 681118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you're mad, you can solder something with one, then turn it off and put it in your pocket < 1321223350 773724 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: Soldering irons scare me intensely. < 1321223351 191194 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and the piano isn't grounded for some reason. It uses an europlug < 1321223359 136137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So it's a soldering iron except it doesn't warn you that it's hot? AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE < 1321223361 284296 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did soldering in physics in first year. < 1321223366 270829 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: AIEEEEEEEEEE < 1321223368 264117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hmm, I suspect the classical midi cable has separate chassis ground and signal ground; I'm not sure if USB does < 1321223374 237416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps that could be it < 1321223374 776299 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The physics teacher promised us a cake day if none of us burned ourselves. < 1321223384 521616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We did not get that cake day. Nor did any other classes, ever. < 1321223389 34195 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm pretty sure classical midi cables are specced to use optoinsulators < 1321223392 756204 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so yeah I guess so < 1321223398 994623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I want cake day....... < 1321223402 570645 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I never burned myself, also I was the soldering master.) < 1321223409 571383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the leading theory behind the magic/more magic switch in the hacker story is that the switch connected chassis and signal ground together, btw, which could quite possibly knock a computer offline) < 1321223422 381433 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, now my chemistry class has weekly cake days. < 1321223436 146932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but you don't use soldering irons in chemistry class, typically < 1321223437 446273 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yeah < 1321223453 486032 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were going to have a Cake Day in Further Maths weekly, but we got bored of it after three weeks < 1321223482 348601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I'd be impressed if someone managed a soldering iron burn during Further Maths class < 1321223494 383537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What if you baked a cake with a soldering iron. < 1321223497 312910 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The maths class have weekly cake days too, but I'm banned from the entire maths department for not unrelated reasons. < 1321223500 441852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, Ngevd is British because he's from Hexham < 1321223506 346037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Also you have to solder the numbers together. < 1321223509 875900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why it's further maths. < 1321223515 192691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: quite difficult to do, and it'd have to be a new soldering iron not to have solder on the tip < 1321223524 596109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Solder cake! < 1321223535 802607 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't solder poisonous? < 1321223537 170124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the tip of a soldering iron becomes desoldered, it actually makes it pretty hard to solder with, you have to cover it with solder to get it soldering again < 1321223545 558163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: yes, heavy metal poisoning < 1321223546 850585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Poisonous and DELICIOUS. < 1321223561 534867 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I got kicked out of maths because I was bored and did nothing of any use to anyone, and then swooped into the class next cake day and made off with some cake.) < 1321223562 636469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the new RoHS stuff, which contains no lead, isn't so bad, it's still inadvisable to eat it < 1321223590 431151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: They /banned you/ for that? < 1321223597 954688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: freeloading and eating cake? < 1321223603 299253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like a bannable offense < 1321223603 829567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The two most human things! < 1321223610 979745 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excuse me, *stealing cake < 1321223614 650906 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kids, don't eat solder. It makes you look stupid. < 1321223617 77592 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a heist! < 1321223618 663772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :excrement unto; < 1321223620 307246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's not stealing if it's cake. < 1321223627 314507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well maybe. < 1321223655 201175 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, I'm ~not part of the maths department~ now, i.e. they don't like me very much. < 1321223661 509880 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We haven't had a cake day in Latin for a while. < 1321223675 510068 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 6 of us, includin the teacher < 1321223687 397724 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, I got kicked out of my old school the year before we started having Latin cake days. < 1321223691 180389 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cake I generally bring is enough for 16 < 1321223700 34992 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, :'( < 1321223715 771960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is the one I wounded someone with a spoon at.) < 1321223718 773250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: This is because you killed someone with a spoon and then stole some cake. < 1321223747 183291 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you cloned yourself and your clone kicked someone in the face. < 1321223751 718393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1321223758 996186 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not one to talk < 1321223789 674703 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: They /banned you/ for that? < 1321223798 751726 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, I was doing nothing of any use to anyone. < 1321223821 439430 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't that bothered, frankly; I got to muck around in the library instead. < 1321223832 76211 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WOULD NEVER HAVE MET APT GUY IF THEY HADN'T < 1321223854 947700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott, you cloned yourself and your clone kicked someone in the face. <--- now I have a huge urge to get ais523_ to log on and kick you < 1321223869 362328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not at work, and it'd take a while to get there to get ais523_ online < 1321224466 347703 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My ancient history class has two people called Theo < 1321224478 152925 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But none called Telemachus < 1321224492 270807 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321224511 428961 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever have a son, I'll call him Telemachus, or Mac for short < 1321224563 39816 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you could connect twice from the same computer < 1321224584 21284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, better than elliott's choice. < 1321224585 199942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: but then it wouldn't be ais523_ < 1321224588 653324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd just be me using the wrong nick < 1321224590 163468 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's 'Azimuth'.) < 1321224592 461845 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ... < 1321224594 605365 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's not even a name.) < 1321224595 985053 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1321224634 109466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: *… < 1321224647 356971 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> sleep
< 1321224648 717370 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1321224663 152205 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-51-229.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1321224663 197707 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-51-229.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1321224663 197845 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321224908 430710 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'm actually managing to make something out of this skyrim panorama I think < 1321224914 65307 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I worked around the HDR issue mostly < 1321225049 627376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ngevd, I got kicked out of my old school the year before we started having Latin cake days. <-- so what is "cake day" in latin? < 1321225066 907996 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, I know this... < 1321225086 900105 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321225143 354273 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1321225174 670570 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dies placentis < 1321225200 915697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1321225231 962283 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake NICK :PlacentaProphet < 1321225253 626461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1321225256 350460 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1321225281 834787 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks < 1321225284 815274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: eww < 1321225305 27177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: heh, I was wondering who'd assume that that was targeted at them < 1321225308 395037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1321225312 493654 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :English has come a long way from Latin < 1321225317 636933 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe in the wrong direction < 1321225364 704872 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that that" is the best construction of English. < 1321225400 952594 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet, is the fully English language version of you a prophet that is a cake, one who prophesizes about cake, or something else < 1321225406 291512 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321225410 349664 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You should totally debug my Python code!!! < 1321225417 353899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blame Gregor. < 1321225420 246082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait no PlacentaProphet you do it. < 1321225427 542907 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I wasn't aware I had differing localizations. < 1321225434 985819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: it's someone who prophesizes about a cake that makes you think you are a cake. i assume. < 1321225459 84877 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case the former would be ProphetCake < 1321225473 181725 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case you want placentarumPropheta < 1321225486 118866 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I want PlacentaProphet < 1321225490 330362 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because this is still English. < 1321225500 77258 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just using a Latin loanword. < 1321225502 486797 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES BUT IT IS ALSO INCORRECT LATIN < 1321225509 29980 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWO LATIN LOAN WORDS < 1321225531 87210 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes in much the same way that "lo siento" is incorrect English. < 1321225542 689434 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Placenta Prophet is also incorrect Latin. < 1321225571 350792 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT IT IS ONE LETTER OFF CORRECT LATIN < 1321225604 239965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It translates as flat cake. It isn't cake like you think of birthday cake today. A better translation would be flat bread." < 1321225618 569349 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- some dude on the Internet? < 1321225626 508374 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like stottie cake? < 1321225627 533053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100906064119AAICqB3 < 1321225633 19004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1321225643 824845 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, yeah, that makes sense historically. < 1321225661 626662 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like stottie cake < 1321225667 38399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: FIX MY C;ODEK < 1321225674 575131 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sauce plz < 1321225695 923250 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will put my delicious placentas to work. < 1321225718 257305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: < 1321225719 884913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/ehird/hackbot/raw/d135b69e88f1/multibot_cmds/PRIVMSG/tr_60.cmd < 1321225720 319687 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bitbucket.org/ehird/hackbot/raw/d135b69e88f1/multibot_cmds/lib/server < 1321225732 413475 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my python < 1321225738 195427 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1321225743 848695 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1321225745 821830 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore that < 1321225748 936656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the server gets messages that look like [] or ['#channel'] for no obvious reason < 1321225756 715651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite the fact that no other messages are cut off or whatever < 1321225758 311176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix plz thanks < 1321225764 426221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :['#esoteric'] < 1321225766 907277 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame dynamic typing. brb food then I'll look. < 1321225855 325271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The server server (i.e. lib/server) :P < 1321225931 625919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION /quote ['#esoteric']
< 1321225947 507183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I actually did that) < 1321225975 275648 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shakehead
< 1321225982 895233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION good grammar
< 1321225994 18465 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1321226000 229110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hi
< 1321226009 432621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should send that to other random servers for a while < 1321226032 77431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1321226034 20275 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1321226040 208327 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: data = server.recv(4096).split('\0') #here? < 1321226050 309773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is seeing people who aren't here. < 1321226060 90813 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how rude < 1321226061 713776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, I just decided that if I did it randomly for a while < 1321226067 641937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: Yes, that is indeed the part that receives shit :P < 1321226074 477412 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1321226075 661587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then when I did it to people who have been here for ages and I just didn't notice, nobody would notice /me/ doing it < 1321226076 347757 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1321226082 949578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lol < 1321226102 838113 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe set up Hackego to do a welcome every half-hour? < 1321226138 374517 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: when does this "sometimes" happen? seemingly at random? < 1321226143 395862 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1321226158 455865 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, usually after some other commands go through (typically when it's two at once but not always) < 1321226205 248235 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, skyrim panorama (huge image, might want to open in, say, gimp rather than the browser depending on how much ram you have and which browser): http://whotookspaz.org/~anmaster/images/skyrim/near-solitude.jpg (yes I'm aware of the hole, I fucked up the overlap a bit yes) < 1321226235 214039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opened in Chrome without a freakin' hitch < 1321226240 805637 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, right < 1321226248 149887 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The white bits on the water are really badly-artefacted. :/ < 1321226265 357888 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I think they are specular highlight < 1321226266 930004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's the hole < 1321226276 176772 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and in the rock. I filled it with black < 1321226281 547442 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :near the left edge < 1321226286 339561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there < 1321226286 816834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And damn, that foliage needs more smoothing :P < 1321226296 186561 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what? < 1321226302 442271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Near the right hang side < 1321226306 927041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really jaggedy < 1321226310 974095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/hang/hang/ < 1321226312 366372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/hang/hand/ < 1321226313 222884 :pkzip!~a@94.159.192.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321226317 532856 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1321226318 358730 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang < 1321226342 341265 :pkzip!~a@94.159.192.94 PART :#esoteric < 1321226343 123444 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, blame a bit on the perspective. After all some pixels get dragged out over several due to the panorama < 1321226350 725710 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, especially near the edges < 1321226372 507210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've thought that about a lot of Skyrim screenshots I've seen tbh :P < 1321226374 31597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :re the foliage < 1321226377 888767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip pkzip killed by pkzip < 1321226381 279706 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there is some of that too < 1321226385 385598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Have you fixed my Python code??? < 1321226399 124019 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have no idea but it sounds like weird networking stuff. try passing the socket.MSG_WAITALL flag? no clue. < 1321226418 132146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: MSG_WAITALL only applies to stream sockets. < 1321226418 397809 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you should check out witcher 2 screenshots < 1321226444 483748 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I will try to find some time to make some next week. Then there will be awesomeness. Can't do panorama, always third person view so... < 1321226456 126423 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no i have python code of my own to nightmare about < 1321226469 17658 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's not my own i have to share it < 1321226469 734280 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and thankfully unlike minecraft, skyrim has no parallax. That makes panoramas much easier < 1321226469 779518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You could panorama and just have a big fuzzy mass of nonsense in the middle < 1321226475 122940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, not in the middle, all around < 1321226481 649958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you can hack it to make the player invisible though :P < 1321226486 619554 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, err, you would get parallax < 1321226493 972391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like shamarallax < 1321226495 736181 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because the camera rotates around a point outside of it < 1321226520 863755 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh a new list of ideas entry < 1321226523 889378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exciting < 1321226523 973295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: BTW, http://deadendthrills.com/ have been doing a bunch of Skyrim posts and they look unreasonably good. < 1321226534 303686 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway there is a lot of details that won't be visible in static screenshots. Like how plants move in the wind < 1321226543 868432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note to everybody: Do not click unless you want to feel inadequate about your hardware, whatever hardware you have :P) < 1321226557 124565 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, in oblivion that looked really faked. It looks kind of okay in Skyrim. It looks utterly awesome in Witcher 2 < 1321226570 332560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does that apply even to me? my hardware's typically so bad that seeing better hardware doesn't make me feel inadequate about it < 1321226582 476843 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what is that site about? < 1321226596 405324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You might want to downgrade to a sock to be safe < 1321226608 69304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's, like, video game photography. < 1321226646 736349 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway, I can play Skyrim on ultra. I can play Witcher 2 on ultra except for the supersampling option. I don't see how I could feel inadequate about my hardware here. < 1321226652 301634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guy mods up the games to hell and back again to get the best graphics he possibly can, runs them at 2160p, and use time-stopping shit and debug consoles to pose a screenshot :P < 1321226659 157456 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if it continues running does it receive the rest of an IRC line later? < 1321226664 640902 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, heh < 1321226696 970081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them look ridiculously good: http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6058/6233836408_00ef719628_b.jpg, http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6185/6147515320_689b9546f9_b.jpg < 1321226698 866848 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, there are already some HD Skyrim mods. And the official modding tools are not yet released. < 1321226705 762750 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, those hotlinks don't work. :/ < 1321226712 720700 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, are both rage? < 1321226715 392371 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and they work for me < 1321226733 391613 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I know one of them is Rage < 1321226736 663536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them is Rage and the other one is Hard Reset, which apparently everyone has praised for having good graphics while being terrible in all other aspects :P < 1321226750 955704 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Rage has *badly* uneven graphics quality < 1321226751 429096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: It doesn't receive IRC lines, but no, like I said, it never receives the rest of a message, no message is ever cut off, etc. < 1321226766 282615 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be state of the art for one object, but right out of NWN1 for another < 1321226779 747143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Apparently he basically has to avoid textured surfaces like the plague :p < 1321226802 259088 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, pretty much all surfaces are textured in modern games < 1321226814 7306 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but I guess he avoids them up close < 1321226818 56427 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes sense < 1321226819 341637 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it datagram weirdness? why are you using a datagram socket? < 1321226822 548207 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That's what I meant. < 1321226826 739364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: Because I don't want a stream socket? < 1321226841 82825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are multiple processes writing to it, etc. < 1321226848 382024 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about, everybody loves stream sockets. < 1321226849 648858 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, fine. < 1321226850 391609 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and I wasn't aiming for making it look good. Rather I was aiming for a representative view of it < 1321226858 60861 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yar < 1321226866 536019 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6335388665_efa3b91f92_b.jpg shows the water artefacts too < 1321226886 255538 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, though some stuff are more noticable in a still image. I mean, a lot of stuff moves, so you don't really see the white stuff like that < 1321226891 898535 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it changes < 1321226894 426257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1321226920 206497 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway I didn't notice those artifacts in game < 1321226920 282178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Do you have a link handy to that massive list of all graphics cards in order of approximate goodness < 1321227008 170922 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, quoting from that site: "Why wouldn’t you assume that a game scarcely bigger than an Xbox 1 DVD would look like ass? Here’s one reason. The new Elder Scrolls might not be a Witcher 2 when it comes to texture resolution (yet), but it’s definitely a Morrowind in its art direction. Unfortunately, it’s also an Oblivion when it comes to making a first impression." < 1321227009 732257 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1321227011 281389 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much < 1321227070 642725 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tools and tricks: twofold increase in landscape cell loading distance, large address aware patch to TESV executable, free camera, no-HUD, 2160p rendering, timecycle adjustment, custom FOV." <-- will have to try those out < 1321227074 172977 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some of them < 1321227081 20368 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :free camera is useless for playing < 1321227089 201599 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free camera, no-HUD, and 2160p rendering are DEFINITELY super useful to you. < 1321227102 749535 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :no by landscape cell loading distance might be < 1321227118 855206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Msot of the Skyrim screenshots only seem to be on http://www.flickr.com/photos/duncanjharris/sets/72157628114774012/detail/, btw < 1321227120 332919 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hope it doesn't do what oblivion did when you changed that outside the range available in the GUI config < 1321227124 653899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ais523: You might want to downgrade to a sock to be safe < 1321227125 688577 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was to fuck up badly < 1321227126 654181 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :716) ais523: You might want to downgrade to a sock to be safe < 1321227129 740227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said sock? < 1321227131 522184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to say rock < 1321227133 279691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sock is better < 1321227221 508108 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do AF_UNIX datagram sockets not require listening and accepting stuff? I doubt that's a problem since you're actually receiving data. < 1321227238 748062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: You're not meant to listen from them. < 1321227239 398344 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: improvement typo! < 1321227240 963585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's sort of the point. < 1321227244 399722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will call it an "improvemeny" < 1321227260 609443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That's a terrible name. < 1321227261 736063 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've never used sockets in this manner, is why I ask. < 1321227264 912197 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Aeneas ever met Odysseus while they were both lost in the Mediterreanean.... < 1321227272 955680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: And that is why I answered. < 1321227276 908768 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent. < 1321227321 587942 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah uh... I have no idea. it appears to be happening in code completely unrelated to this source. < 1321227327 891267 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe you should check out the programs you're talking to? < 1321227352 917809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: I linked the single program that talks to it. < 1321227356 836265 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay. < 1321227505 680553 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1321227613 970452 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, according to http://deadendthrills.com/faq/ his system isn't that much better than mine at all. I think the GPU might be slightly better. And I have a newer generation CPU I think, though iirc with less cache. < 1321227640 833789 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I certainly have more RAM. He has a larger SSD < 1321227651 476587 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have way larger HDDs < 1321227653 990871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the GTX 580 is the highest-end non-SLI card Nvidia do < 1321227659 138592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I might be wrong < 1321227663 245957 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ther eis GTX 590 too < 1321227665 762428 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is* < 1321227675 375868 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it seems to me that there's no seperator between multiple sends. is that okay? < 1321227679 490104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAM isn't really that relevant above a certain point, and storage space is completely irrelevant :P < 1321227682 763759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: That's why it's a datagram socket < 1321227683 186596 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but yes, he has a somewhat better GPU. Still not that much of a different < 1321227708 807334 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway he isn't doing real time rendering when taking this screenshots. 40 FPS at the time would be just fine < 1321227713 962193 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah okay. < 1321227720 808009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There is no way he gets 40 FPS. < 1321227722 182912 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the datagram is the seperator. < 1321227723 38306 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :these* < 1321227724 337841 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it. < 1321227725 910126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That bit’s important, though, because it means I run their hardware at temperatures that could fry an egg." < 1321227734 298896 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm like 99% sure overclocking is probably involved. < 1321227739 398356 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm just pointing out that it wouldn't matter when taking those screenshots < 1321227768 366202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTX 590 is one of those two-GPU things. < 1321227773 935589 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it doesn't really count. < 1321227784 943209 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I heard of someone with two GTX 590 in SLI < 1321227787 789980 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so quad GPUs? < 1321227796 323975 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that anyway < 1321227799 161832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can do that < 1321227804 966339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought CrossFire was the only one that let you do >2 gpus < 1321227808 716646 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1321227823 6558 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, maybe you can when they are on the same card? I don't know. < 1321227952 689200 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm dissapointed that it is not possible to do GCSE or A-Level Finnish < 1321228004 60156 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: try using sendall instead of send. I doubt it matters though. < 1321228019 209061 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor the Scottish equivalents thereof < 1321228033 885878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: That would result in multiple send()s being used. < 1321228037 59538 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would break the server. < 1321228054 479272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: And like I said, /no message gets cut off at any point/. < 1321228058 793125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So all the data is always being sent. < 1321228073 288877 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I thought datagram sockets were inherently unreliable? < 1321228089 128431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a fucking Unix socket! < 1321228103 532612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless Gregor is secretly fucking up the bits, there is no reason for this to be happening. < 1321228119 490168 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No messages ever fail to send, but occasionally a phantom message with just one or none of the fields in the wrong order appears for no apparent reason. < 1321228141 484855 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you identify and ignore them? < 1321228156 181006 :jix!~jix@dronf.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1321228158 211102 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A lot of folk asking the about my Rage config, so here it is. Bear in mind, though, that I’m running the game at 2160p (at 60fps, Carmack, you beast) and using 64x multisampling on the screenshots, then downsampling x2." < 1321228163 815875 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :64x multisampling < 1321228164 395610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I... would rather figure out why they are happening. < 1321228164 441115 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1321228193 51008 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright people < 1321228198 633068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1321228199 103374 :jix!~jix@dronf.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1321228199 527477 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme ask you a very important question < 1321228201 804789 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very very important < 1321228201 849944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1321228203 644931 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1321228221 473297 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i showed you 4 squares and a rectangle, and they all looked like the same color < 1321228223 483436 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i asked you < 1321228228 185718 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :point to the one with the different color < 1321228235 394087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would punch you < 1321228236 25556 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you be inclined to point to the rectangle < 1321228243 116628 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope this helps < 1321228246 242918 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well yes based on the code I'm inclined to agree that there's no reason for that to be happening. < 1321228247 475809 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be inclined to punch you < 1321228255 939995 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be inclined to flip you off, really. < 1321228265 235657 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some dipshit on reddit says that people would point to the rectangle < 1321228266 680296 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which is why I believe it's low-level issue. < 1321228268 320731 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :moral of the story "nobody likes having science done to them" < 1321228268 491351 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :+a < 1321228272 358800 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its visibly different < 1321228278 516694 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd point to the PAGE THEY ARE PRINTED ON < 1321228282 657206 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip off with one hand, punch with the other < 1321228283 360724 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: :) < 1321228287 613476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: tbh i might do it as a kneejerk thing but it's such a contrived scenario < 1321228289 27604 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I suppose if you gave them a second or less? < 1321228305 307972 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were asked for the different _color_? < 1321228306 457712 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1321228309 250325 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonsense. < 1321228325 41017 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :words are confusing < 1321228335 580187 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-148-208.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: "Different->oh that's different->wait, you said 'color'? fuck you" < 1321228353 66738 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: the question is whether we have an intuitive sense of colour really... < 1321228353 273472 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: eh < 1321228359 288351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, differing from things just looking different < 1321228370 696975 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, yes obviously you would do this with people who know what color is :P < 1321228377 125403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: har har < 1321228381 739085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: but i mean like what with the "name the colours of these words that are names of other colours" thing < 1321228389 736182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if we're so good at colours :P < 1321228401 478122 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh yes but thats a very different task < 1321228404 809042 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colours come from language < 1321228412 558712 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all that shows is interference between description and reading < 1321228415 788243 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are more inclined to read < 1321228430 359185 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because the linguistic aspect is so dominant, while color description is not < 1321228438 574604 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people can still describe colors < 1321228441 486106 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not like they cant < 1321228452 830229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant describe colours what is purple?? < 1321228454 143229 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you give someone as long as they want to answer, they're not going to pick the fuck rectangle < 1321228458 702975 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: its purple! < 1321228460 878958 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just said! < 1321228475 253290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S A WORD NOT A DESCRIPTION < 1321228483 711937 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :description word < 1321228484 639663 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing < 1321228484 688294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also how do you distinguish a fuck rectangle from a regular rectangle. < 1321228493 873950 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck < 1321228497 1146 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: by whether or not a dick is on it < 1321228498 70104 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1321228512 262047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dectangle < 1321228519 932195 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is there any more relevant code? for example, the code that's passing shit to the sending code? < 1321228538 14435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: that's called `an irc server' < 1321228543 903063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, multibot < 1321228548 33187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibot ain't broken because see HackEgo here < 1321228558 278515 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: dicktangle < 1321228571 402779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlacentaProphet: But like I said, the channel comes in as the /first/ list element < 1321228575 515286 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which never, ever happens with that sending code < 1321228576 674190 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1321228601 460617 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1321228601 506051 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so like, you printed what the sender sends, and then printed what the receiver receives < 1321228604 468536 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and.... < 1321228606 976254 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're different? < 1321228617 918610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't traced the sender yet because it's literally impossible for it to be breaking but fiiiiiiine. < 1321228625 725956 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: DO IT < 1321228633 530181 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTHING IS IMPROSEBLE < 1321228772 960195 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :# 60 = ` < 1321228776 289791 :PlacentaProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1321228783 537673 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :60 = `