< 1316649600 52319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1316649602 595813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :overlappung < 1316649608 783611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1316649609 760493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :overlapungent < 1316649615 920332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a wrapped [[a]] instance < 1316649626 366026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1316649626 799332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :overlapungent < 1316649745 181986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you know about extensible exceptions :P < 1316649747 887136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. Control.Exception < 1316649765 764105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what i've read from the module documentation < 1316649795 266280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I do (catch m (\(x::SomeException) -> ...)), will that catch all exceptions? < 1316649798 555527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that unsufficient < 1316649802 843921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1316649804 86187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/unsufficient/insufficient/ < 1316649805 852714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1316649810 626187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just define an instance for your type, and unless you want to simulate the subtyping stuff, all methods are defaults < 1316649827 95089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap return < 1316649828 194606 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a (m :: * -> *) (f :: * -> *). (Monad m, Functor f) => f a -> f (m a) < 1316649853 708374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everything is a subtype of SomeException, because the main method is defined in terms of that. < 1316649868 78799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1316650106 696799 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@so !haskell (\s t->putStrLn(s ++ show s ++ show t ++ t))"@so !haskell (\\s t->putStrLn(s ++ show s ++ show t ++ t))""--"-- < 1316650107 49394 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell (\s t->putStrLn(s ++ show s ++ show t ++ t))"@so !haskell (\\s t->putStrLn(s ++ show s ++ show t ++ t))""--"-- not available < 1316650111 783374 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@so !haskell (\s t->putStrLn(s ++ show s ++ show t ++ t))"@so !haskell (\\s t->putStrLn(s ++ show s ++ show t ++ t))""--"-- < 1316650124 723052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Stream m0 (Stream (Iter m0 i0) o0)' < 1316650124 957561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `Iter (Iter m0 i0) i1 o0' < 1316650124 996829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augh < 1316650135 315884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :micahjohnston: Dude, I botlooped lambdabot and EgoBot ages ago. < 1316650139 14780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't do it again, it'll just be annoying. < 1316650141 465553 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1316650142 281927 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1316650142 466454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs not available < 1316650146 806337 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14303 < 1316650152 346976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot prevents it anyway. < 1316650161 544904 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :once I had another bot in the middle < 1316650167 683624 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find that one though < 1316650172 53789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-02-01.txt:16:25:33: 11.01.20:12:51:53 !c char *s="?so !c char *s=%c%s%c; printf(s,34,s,34);//"; printf(s,34,s,34);// not available < 1316650186 131834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :micahjohnston: EgoBot puts a zero-width space before the @, so... < 1316650190 95128 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1316650225 30868 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@so @so test < 1316650225 442669 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : @so test not available < 1316650228 391482 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1316650245 630229 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :@so test < 1316650246 44135 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :test not available < 1316650259 114101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh so it special cases @ < 1316650262 769807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@so ?so test < 1316650263 237372 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?so test not available < 1316650268 201248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not ? < 1316650304 830723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, no bot sees its own messages unless specifically designed to do so < 1316650400 147411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :micahjohnston: also bot loops are a fine tradition, don't feel bad. it's just that all the bots present here have countermeasures. < 1316650425 368823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is also a fine tradition, once the bot loops have been done.) < 1316650505 531139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not, botloop prevention is a recent invention < 1316650506 698927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rhymes) < 1316650842 178596 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, heh < 1316651180 939560 :calamari!~jeffryj@32.97.110.61 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1316652521 86578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's infixr four < 1316652544 91035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0 *>) < 1316652545 273215 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Control.Applicative.*>' [infixl 4] of a section < 1316652545 432851 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must hav... < 1316652550 173245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm not that one < 1316652579 189559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall most of the Applicative stuff is 4 < 1316652595 775135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0 <*) < 1316652597 2094 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Control.Applicative.<*' [infixl 4] of a section < 1316652597 20124 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must hav... < 1316652606 326467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1316652613 65124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0 <) < 1316652614 141871 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `GHC.Classes.<' [infix 4] of a section < 1316652614 312590 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have lower pr... < 1316652655 543427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what would be an Applicative operator which nests most usefully rightwards... < 1316652666 436322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0 <|>) < 1316652667 458657 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Control.Applicative.<|>' [infixl 3] of a section < 1316652667 658270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must ha... < 1316652707 902951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0 <**>) < 1316652708 971465 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Control.Applicative.<**>' [infixl 4] of a section < 1316652709 148281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must h... < 1316652714 902820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even that one < 1316652736 473737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<**>) < 1316652737 588560 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *) a b. (Applicative f) => f a -> f (a -> b) -> f b < 1316652755 572225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's the one which actually is mirrored in a sense < 1316652817 133411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, i suspect the fixities for those are not very well thought out - things starting with < having the same fixity level as <, that's like ocaml not haskell < 1316652841 187980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, they did not even give *> the same fixity as >> < 1316652854 693646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :< having the same fixity as < < 1316652857 182434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who'da thunk it < 1316652869 622601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: reading comprehension, elliott < 1316652891 450572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1316652893 238160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the "starting with" part. ocaml actually _enforces_ that. < 1316652902 129345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, really? < 1316652905 669706 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1316652906 154070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... < 1316652910 958143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes 5 is very infixr < 1316653321 465226 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<+> is infixr 5, *** and &&& are infixr 3 < 1316653321 841569 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :677) yes 5 is very infixr < 1316653332 363889 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but where is the infixr 4 < 1316653403 23601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the report has only infix 4, since they're all testing operators < 1316653439 96917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing that could make more sense would be python's chaining < 1316653499 30811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that's Prelude only. < 1316653502 512398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/haskellch4.html#x10-820061 < 1316653518 979214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the only variation within a level is between !! and . < 1316653537 474672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(!!'s fixity is also the default one without a declaration) < 1316653564 324257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it leaves out =<< < 1316653573 669681 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=<< is infixr 1 i think < 1316653615 155019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's the main operator i recall which usefully has the opposite associativity but still the same level < 1316653623 716645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as >>=) < 1316653644 288364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0 <$>) < 1316653645 427170 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Data.Functor.<$>' [infixl 4] of a section < 1316653645 613329 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have lowe... < 1316653671 175141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1316653675 895092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0 >=>) < 1316653676 813138 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Control.Monad.>=>' [infixr 1] of a section < 1316653677 52 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have low... < 1316653681 60970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0 >>>) < 1316653682 123357 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Control.Category.>>>' [infixr 1] of a section < 1316653682 296061 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have ... < 1316653731 280784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the thing is, it does not really make sense to define new non-testing operators as level 4, and i consider the Applicatives there a mistake. < 1316653755 712190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should have been lower, similarly to the monadic ones < 1316653770 427962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fair enough, I'm trying to give a fixity to a piping operator < 1316653781 657893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well >>> and >=> are 1 < 1316653787 893384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is >>= < 1316653798 355568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those are all piping operators in a sense < 1316653821 467114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0 <<<) < 1316653822 523195 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Control.Category.<<<' [infixr 1] of a section < 1316653822 710848 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have ... < 1316653859 697302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's also similar to (.) in a sense though < 1316653887 676730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but . is special it's almost syntax < 1316653892 706840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like $ < 1316654039 81214 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i found an infixr 4 operator < 1316654055 431762 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy < 1316654059 712424 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must feel so lonley < 1316654101 363687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in any case, every "piping" operator i can find in Control.Arrow, Control.Category or Control.Monad is level 1, mostly infixr < 1316654112 209186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what operator < 1316654117 244031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1316654142 94309 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.| in iterio....its even called a pipe operator...but you probably already knew all of this...it may even be the reason why you want infixr 4.... < 1316654203 608377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right elliott was using that package, i saw in the logs < 1316654339 704632 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1316654384 505593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be some guidelines for fixities (rule 1: never use infixl or infix 0) < 1316654418 960131 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsec's uses infix 0 i think < 1316654424 522504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless cale gets his will, in which case s/infixl/infixr/ < 1316654438 314181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: infixl 0 iirc, and it is annoying < 1316654460 584454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it had been infixr 0 with opposite argument order, it could have been chained with $ easily < 1316654502 816868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0 ) < 1316654503 860303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `' < 1316654507 417817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1316654548 409562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main = (0$0 Text.ParserCombinators.Parsec.) < 1316654554 387658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1316654566 97723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it worked < 1316654568 296320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :infixl 9 < 1316654575 117037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1316654578 435615 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what parsec version is that < 1316654595 494043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsec 2? < 1316654635 27085 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in latest on hackage (parsec 3.1.1): < 1316654636 14265 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :infix 0 < 1316654636 32715 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :infixr 1 <|> < 1316654640 333204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1316654654 676652 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird how it has its own <|> too < 1316654657 107733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess it's not really _worse_ afa $ is concerned < 1316654673 328864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it predates Alternative I think < 1316654675 262097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah prior to Alternative < 1316654692 770571 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought early parsec predated alternatve but new parsec didnt?? < 1316654711 698183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's weird they didn't remove it when they added alternative to the instances for it... < 1316654720 433020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did they just add applicative? < 1316654729 162261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, maybe stuff depends on it being exported < 1316654738 520193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and monomorphism restriction means it can't be the Alternative version < 1316654742 326636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that would break backwards-compat < 1316654742 673724 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ParsecT s u m) has an Alternative instance < 1316654747 441483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps. < 1316654756 254612 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1316654780 355250 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixity changes too < 1316654781 7549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1316654789 95394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real <|> being infixl 3 or something like that < 1316654798 238272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i realized my test must have been wrong < 1316654816 574864 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of old parsec or what < 1316654830 520883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Text.ParserCombinators.Parsec; main = (0$0 ) < 1316654830 714948 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's looking in .ParserCombinators. yeah it's old < 1316654840 924734 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's just Text.Parsec isn't it < 1316654878 890032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no, because it didn't get to import the operator, and so assumed for the rest of the parsing that it was infixl 9 < 1316654890 238814 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1316654903 488111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main = print "test" < 1316654908 304198 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"test" < 1316654933 150832 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show haskell < 1316654933 472538 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not a user interpreter! < 1316654938 85419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm something went wrong there, i got a nonsensical error message < 1316654940 947457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Text.ParserCombinators.Parsec; main = (0$0 ) < 1316654951 900415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah finally < 1316654968 78492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was infix 0 < 1316654996 954229 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:30:44 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with =EgoBot < 1316654997 445207 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:30:44 lol < 1316654997 463332 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:30:44 -!- Irssi: Closing query with =EgoBot < 1316655005 892584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes in a blue moon EgoBot sends responses to the wrong place < 1316655006 879444 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this your fault < 1316655009 451058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: waht < 1316655033 316693 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was after < 1316655034 128093 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:30:21 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with egobot < 1316655034 457550 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:30:33 !haskell :i ++ < 1316655034 475573 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:30:36 ​(++) :: [a] -> [a] -> [a] .-- Defined in GHC.Base < 1316655047 966088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you may have hit the same bug < 1316655065 145499 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lol was dcc chat < 1316655082 852137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got an error message which was obviously for someone else, while you got some ordinary response i think < 1316655108 960462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but neither of them were supposed to be for any of us < 1316655109 304176 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ordinary about lol and why would egobot ever send it < 1316655113 428356 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe < 1316655123 590818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: if someone tried a command !echo lol, say < 1316655131 447808 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1316655140 790569 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering how this could have happened < 1316655156 745617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just too many people experimenting with EgoBot simultaneously < 1316655186 498086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or too much load, istr it happens more often if you give it something with a lot of output or the like < 1316655233 880528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume EgoBot is doing responses in parallel, but its code to match responses to questioners has some race condition < 1316655247 676811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my guess. < 1316655249 685112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ^ < 1316655293 477312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps things get saved away wrongly and get sent later < 1316655331 983941 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave egobot another request (!haskell :i Text.Parsec.) and am not getting a response :'( < 1316655352 249877 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder who's getting it < 1316655445 199878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1316655454 54917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :i Text.Parsec. < 1316655474 453474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no response there either < 1316655476 256557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo hi < 1316655476 749454 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1316655480 719528 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :i ++ < 1316655483 108273 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(++) :: [a] -> [a] -> [a] .-- Defined in GHC.Base < 1316655494 298901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: perhaps :i just fails silently < 1316655509 952911 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:39:23 infixr 5 ++ < 1316655510 113564 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:39:23 < 1316655512 562952 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks egobot < 1316655521 62710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :i Text.ParserCombinators.Parsec. < 1316655523 699030 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(Text.ParserCombinators.Parsec.Prim.) :: < 1316655532 303401 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it's old parsec not new parsec < 1316655535 765407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1316655546 835447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :got the rest in DCC < 1316655553 317575 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blank line and all? < 1316655569 85951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i closed the window again < 1316655572 410357 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder who got the infixr/blankline from my first ++ request when I got lol < 1316655588 206546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict it was the rest of my own response < 1316655788 683860 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1316656524 108945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: probably a ghost :')] < 1316656525 513452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: probably a ghost :') < 1316657082 468519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/ghc/ghc/commit/3db757241ce7fb99c096c30481aefa86bb9855a1 < 1316657086 150204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how not to do commits < 1316657112 621643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You may enjoy the above < 1316657385 398209 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1316657649 529963 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MSleep < 1316657810 41931 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316658317 278832 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1316658399 429435 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-98-217.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316658601 925886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: rank n types :( < 1316658622 413835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa < 1316658634 259110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just setting the mood here < 1316658638 628911 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-98-217.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1316658664 417245 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-98-217.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316658698 112189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t runST . forever < 1316658699 189686 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `forall s. ST s a' < 1316658699 384042 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `m b' < 1316658699 402155 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: m a1 -> forall s. ST s a < 1316658709 618553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHACKACKACK* < 1316658759 708601 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do :( < 1316658764 150447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (.) runST < 1316658765 157063 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a (f :: * -> *). (Functor f) => f (forall s. ST s a) -> f a < 1316658796 13490 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :caleskell < 1316658801 59469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: merely demonstrating the evil of rank n types < 1316658807 993031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok that's accidental < 1316658863 395832 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316658879 489717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t runST . (forever :: forall s. ST s a -> forall s. ST s b) < 1316658880 462061 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type variable `a' < 1316658880 639146 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type variable `b' < 1316658886 578024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it upsets me a lot that rank-two types prevent point-free :'( < 1316658888 645190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1316658905 454781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah < 1316658910 442051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it makes me... < 1316658911 31386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad < 1316658928 344951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t runST . (forever :: forall s. ST s Int -> forall s. ST s Float) < 1316658929 359785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `s1' against inferred type `s' < 1316658929 559379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `s1' is a rigid type variable bound by < 1316658929 577472 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : the polymorphic type `forall s1. ST s1 Float' at :1:9 < 1316658942 153274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1316658945 380213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad stuff < 1316658975 738046 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316659006 456615 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-98-217.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316659091 368826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (forever :: forall s. ST s Int -> forall s. ST s Float) < 1316659092 351543 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `s1' against inferred type `s' < 1316659092 524167 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `s1' is a rigid type variable bound by < 1316659092 542223 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : the polymorphic type `forall s1. ST s1 Float' at :1:1 < 1316659185 485865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let forever :: forall s. ST s a -> forall s. ST s b; forever x = x >> forever x in runST . forever < 1316659186 531073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type variable `a' < 1316659186 703596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type variable `b' < 1316659201 457013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1316659209 609630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let forever :: forall a b. forall s. ST s a -> forall s. ST s b; forever x = x >> forever x in runST . forever < 1316659210 560276 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `s1' against inferred type `s' < 1316659210 735526 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `s1' is a rigid type variable bound by < 1316659210 753504 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : the type signature for `forever' at :1:54 < 1316659239 24327 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316659242 588660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let forever :: forall a b. (forall s. ST s a) -> (forall s. ST s b); forever x = x >> forever x in runST . forever < 1316659243 558196 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a a1. (forall s. ST s a1) -> a < 1316659247 173765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1316659394 891310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit of a shallow victory < 1316659591 433780 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG you guys < 1316659594 239255 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Liver paste is SO GOOD < 1316659595 225074 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO < 1316659596 370367 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMNED < 1316659597 848239 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD < 1316659609 111748 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :liver < 1316659609 936278 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :paste < 1316659613 877550 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hi < 1316659615 557454 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will be the only person in history to make himself fat off liver paste. < 1316659619 398081 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fuck. I seem to have spontaneously developed the ability to sing in falsetto without sounding like I'm going to murder eardrums. < 1316659636 474721 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: probably not any good. Just not a crime against humanity now.) < 1316659687 109847 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, now I can sing above middle C. Whoo. < 1316659739 149639 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And probably kill people doing it. < 1316659744 461951 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than definitely. < 1316659787 911006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NO WAI, ULL BE SECOND < 1316659816 136338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1316659869 770882 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can sing /below/ middle C! :P < 1316659909 34169 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My normal singing range roughly corresponds to the bass clef. < 1316660086 349054 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Juries have to be uninterested third parties. So, if a person using Future Technology™ beams a live image of themselves brutally murdering someone into the minds of every living human being, then they cannot be convicted. < 1316660131 332161 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep in mind that we have the GOP here. < 1316660156 509698 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That person would probably just be classified as an enemy combatant and find themselves in Miniluv. < 1316660198 491560 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can they be classified as an enemy combatant if they're a US citizen? I suppose so *shrugs* < 1316660203 422170 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1316660216 447821 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The President can also order a direct assassination of you. < 1316660219 749978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION haz liver/BACON paste < 1316660241 47186 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In short, the legal system is 120% fucked. < 1316660250 694761 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ... wow. < 1316660253 531100 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That ... wow. < 1316660276 50022 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(precedent for the assassination thing: Obama did it.) < 1316660276 709077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1316660284 172856 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah, not even Bush) < 1316660379 204753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: incidentally there's a possible related conundrum here for the norwegian courts - one of the buildings damaged by the recent terrorist attack was the norwegian supreme court building... < 1316660416 922277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess that's judges, not juries. but still, they're supposed to excuse themselves if personally involved. < 1316660466 156675 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: And presumably there's no precedent for bringing in judges who haven't been elected (?) to the supreme court? < 1316660470 694777 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, bork :) < 1316660520 83541 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potential hack: appeal to the International Criminal Court. < 1316660521 69765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: actually there is, the government is supposed to appoint some. it's just that a lot of the government's buildings were _also_ damaged. < 1316660554 206956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the government should excuse themselves from making that appointment... < 1316660569 668622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*government ministers < 1316660663 414684 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. I don't think the terrorist attack would count as a war crime, so the ICC wouldn't have jurisdiction. < 1316660687 672073 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Bork bork! < 1316660709 576564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the time being, the terrorist appears to be trying to argue that he should be tried in military court - because he's at war with the labor party. < 1316660732 691695 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... ... ... lolwut. < 1316660792 308030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: his lawyer has frequently pointed out that he does not see things very similarly to anyone else. including his lawyer. < 1316660823 989781 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that works, then the ICC would have jurisdiction, and so he could be tried there instead of in Norway's courts. < 1316660841 894449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers reading all that < 1316660848 521735 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Don't. < 1316660849 214766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're supposed to try him ourselves if we can, though :P < 1316660866 270507 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, but if he gets to your supreme court, then it seems you couldn't try him. < 1316660871 788139 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So, the ICC would have to. < 1316660884 892979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: why not < 1316660886 731212 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it's not a war crime, in which case fuck. < 1316660902 232843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: they'll probably find some way to get some judges appointed, hopefully. < 1316660935 235941 :invariable!~root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1316661030 553610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : :t let forever :: forall a b. (forall s. ST s a) -> (forall s. ST s b); forever x = x >> forever x in runST . forever < 1316661030 773026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : forall a a1. (forall s. ST s a1) -> a < 1316661031 732267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1316661040 413300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "it only breaks polymorphism" < 1316661046 762222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to "it only breaks beta reduction" < 1316661069 24582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Juries have to be uninterested third parties. So, if a person using Future Technology™ beams a live image of themselves brutally murdering someone into the minds of every living human being, then they cannot be convicted. < 1316661072 667691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that actually a crime? < 1316661080 914652 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-173.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316661086 849971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t forever :: forall a b. (forall s. ST s a) -> (forall s. ST s b) < 1316661087 814073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `forall s. ST s a' < 1316661087 988796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `m a1' < 1316661088 7436 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: < 1316661093 905874 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/world/middleeast/07yemen.html?hp < 1316661096 470475 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unbelieveable < 1316661101 202369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: btw I don't think it matters if we can convict that guy :P < 1316661121 446173 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Probably true :P < 1316661123 582262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think the murder is supposed to be real < 1316661134 462337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So it's a future murder? < 1316661156 740682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: erm there's no time travel involved. < 1316661159 905912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you convict people for crimes they'll do in the future, even if they're not planning them at all now? [I presume Minority Report had some kind of theme music in it, so assume it's being played now] < 1316661165 688793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Then how is there anyone left to do the convicting < 1316661180 834597 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's like my hypothetical situation where a government declares its official language to be as described by some institution, and then that institution proceeds to subtly modify the language to coup. < 1316661188 334558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you still need to work on your reading comprehension < 1316661201 776104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, brutally murdering /someone/, okay < 1316661205 17273 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-236-18.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1316661214 920801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was an image of them brutally murdering you for every you :P < 1316661229 158839 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1316661233 360751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You would be good at nomic, but you're bad at real-world political loopholes :P < 1316661246 22868 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But unless he actually murders every you, that's arguably not even illegal. < 1316661259 599291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In nomic, people can't just resort to killing someone illegally if you fuck with them too much :P < 1316661270 42120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or can they? TODO: Murder an Agora player who pisses me off.) < 1316661274 159287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's what I said :P < 1316661282 705553 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO'D YOUR MOM < 1316661292 410154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1316661332 906442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm pretty sure your version would at least count as harassment < 1316661419 43599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1316661426 672293 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-173.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You need mens rea and actus reus to convict; with the act having never occured, actus reus couldn't exist, and mens rea might not either. < 1316661427 586973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least :P < 1316662284 478426 :azaq231!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316662434 381664 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1316663411 898865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ein monade er som ei lefse. < 1316663577 416419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1316663588 821292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kmc: une monade est comme une crêpe. una mónada es como un burrito. eine Monade ist wie ein Strudel) < 1316663628 186951 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-173.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Senatus populusque romanus? < 1316663770 77280 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-173.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Following with the actual statements: モナッドは巻き寿司のようです。 < 1316663778 954099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh unicode < 1316663790 390888 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-173.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monaddo ha makizushi no you desu. < 1316663842 365019 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-173.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A monad is like a makizushi" (a makizushi being the kind of sushi that's rolled, with the contents wrapped in rice & nori) < 1316663854 193116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you are taking notes, i hope? < 1316663995 37910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes haskell weekly news is out again) < 1316664025 448421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm bicentennial < 1316664059 912861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (kmc: une monade est comme une crêpe. una mónada es como un burrito. eine Monade ist wie ein Strudel) < 1316664062 705755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait it's not -enni- if there are no actual _years_ counted, is it < 1316664062 925941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :waht is going on.............. < 1316664068 695493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh haskell weekly news < 1316664072 871254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that oerjan...still reads... < 1316664116 538538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to have increased my regular haskell web sites lately < 1316664146 689158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started with r/haskell and grew from there < 1316664192 859135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought hwn was something you had received in email for years or whatever < 1316664197 189607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least i remember you saying that < 1316664202 605187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said it about agora's backup lists at leaest :P < 1316664203 707814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :least < 1316664224 312277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also that crêpe version started on haskell-cafe, i believe, in the comments about the french translation of learn you a haskell < 1316664235 72219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc obviously has expanded it < 1316664245 744805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316664258 427936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1316664280 969795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1316664287 61968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to explain how i don't actually subscribe to any haskell mailing lists, and i don't think i ever have < 1316664313 101668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _do_ however tend to gravitate towards the haskell-cafe web archive if not careful. < 1316664390 603919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like to read hwn on that, though, all the links are made into footnotes with url shortening < 1316664431 391684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably subscribe to haskell-cafe < 1316664523 129715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so kmc obviously has expanded it < 1316664532 726062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the last i said before you quit < 1316664577 193452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :saw it < 1316664580 904287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in backlog) < 1316664872 890177 :variable!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: I found 1 in /dev/zero < 1316665318 323111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mfilter < 1316665319 375452 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `mfilter' < 1316665331 269721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle mfilter < 1316665331 779412 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1316665404 75496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too new apparently < 1316665405 263413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hoogle filterM < 1316665405 608827 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad filterM :: Monad m => (a -> m Bool) -> [a] -> m [a] < 1316665405 782132 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Graph.Inductive.Query.Monad graphFilterM :: GraphM m gr => (Context a b -> Bool) -> GT m (gr a b) [Context a b] < 1316665416 525229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, it actually is mfilter < 1316665429 993872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/base/latest/doc/html/Control-Monad.html#v:mfilter < 1316665446 586194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :saw it mentioned on stackexchange < 1316665551 850041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stackexchange or overflow < 1316665564 326985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er damn < 1316665575 39992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :overflow < 1316665603 779687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :short term memory failed between checking and typing :P < 1316665781 409588 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1316665910 631019 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 27^3 < 1316665911 703747 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 19683 < 1316665948 661855 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 27^2 < 1316665949 578068 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 729 < 1316665974 475504 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not bad at all for number of 3-gram hash table entries. < 1316666088 974568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1316666108 655696 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1316666125 870905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the context < 1316666132 87175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what are you trying to do < 1316666136 527628 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember like a month ago I was going to improve the acronym generator? < 1316666145 974666 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I've begun doing so finally. < 1316666172 539196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1316666175 595670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to base it on words < 1316666179 338258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it will just generate words < 1316666184 677929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a database of acronyms < 1316666188 36369 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :these 3-grams are of the character variety. < 1316666197 108516 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it's a word generator more than an acronym generator. < 1316666214 816876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1316666220 114324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it will be bad at generating acronyms < 1316666236 727322 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will generate sequences of characters that are likely to be pronounceable < 1316666240 737118 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus not a bad acronym generator. < 1316666256 695780 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though perhaps a bad word generator < 1316666260 492344 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I doubt it will have perfect results. < 1316666474 356516 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what would happen if I also organized the data by character position. < 1316666502 903428 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it stores the frequency of this character occuring after these two characters at this specific position. < 1316666517 248036 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :something to consider afterwards, just out of curiosity. < 1316666634 931276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t random < 1316666635 650251 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall g a. (Random a, RandomGen g) => g -> (a, g) < 1316666639 513994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hoogle Random < 1316666639 731387 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :module System.Random < 1316666639 918807 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.Random class Random a < 1316666639 937492 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :package random < 1316666747 303216 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1316666754 263619 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fat free ranch dressing tastes like poop. < 1316666770 85976 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, now I know what poop tastes like without the trouble of trying it. < 1316666783 687420 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are the lipids? :( my tongue wants lipids. < 1316666901 441267 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your tongue is lying to you. < 1316666932 319420 :variable!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1316666935 236535 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my tongue has no notion of truth so if it's lying I can't really blame it. < 1316667094 698728 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1316667102 137340 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is my favourite Boolean value. < 1316667246 842891 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1316667409 256754 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1316667553 807260 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi monqy. How art thou to-day? < 1316668001 810171 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tired < 1316668005 899098 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uobopicjekypebwm QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316668043 864699 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rest. < 1316668053 523680 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1316668167 891645 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-173.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: I approve of thy archaicism. < 1316668213 515310 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently decided to eschew "rendering" in favour of "rendition" in my computer graphics vocabulary. < 1316668285 286378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1316668377 875708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What's the biggest file EgoBot will download as an interpreter < 1316668411 850175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: are you fixing wacro? good. < 1316668423 992412 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like replacing it with something completely different. < 1316668430 351387 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodl < 1316668432 32725 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1316668496 272327 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only work on it in spare moments, which aren't many these days. < 1316668646 55850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey CakeProphet < 1316668647 258189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316668647 604721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316668648 422632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316668648 440638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316668648 440881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316668656 74640 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTU < 1316668656 279909 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GLIDING < 1316668657 482511 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :VLASIC'S < 1316668657 546484 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEPOTS < 1316668658 760451 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOEDOWNS < 1316668677 611165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1316668728 631201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316668729 232565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316668729 516524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316668729 900286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316668734 841833 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WUSSES < 1316668735 945320 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OFTEST < 1316668736 269051 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :EAVESDROPPING < 1316668736 355208 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SB'S < 1316668751 465898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: You no longer need to devote any effort < 1316668837 135385 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A naked girl demands a backrub. Life is hard. < 1316668841 469319 :evincar!~chatzilla@daffa.student.rit.edu QUIT :Quit: :D < 1316668869 631494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard lifes hard times < 1316668873 116570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can that guy get any more obnoxious < 1316668877 478258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's discuss my perfect acronym generator instead < 1316668879 763607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: it uses N-GRAMS. < 1316668940 154754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow such rudeness in this non-response < 1316668942 651831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: wow < 1316668972 572401 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316668977 179107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1316668979 652507 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-173.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316668982 609455 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1316668990 701814 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm pretty sure that is not an acronym generator < 1316669002 88805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: It's a word generator. < 1316669003 751808 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316669007 264823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does exactly what you were going to write. :p < 1316669007 993004 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :KHORANA'S < 1316669011 998517 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks good to me < 1316669012 362578 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no. < 1316669014 875854 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316669019 7899 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :YPSILANTI'S < 1316669021 608978 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyyyyyyyyyyep < 1316669034 373461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: How does it differ from what you were going to write? and do you think it differs based on evidence or are you just sure that your approach would produce better results < 1316669051 794923 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no because you've somehow completely understood what I meant by "3-grams of characters" < 1316669063 981654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have? < 1316669066 381384 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*misunderstood < 1316669067 281078 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1316669069 568112 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a billion grams < 1316669069 823034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you know I have? < 1316669080 786672 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :highest quality wacronyms, macronyms < 1316669093 321866 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... hmmm < 1316669107 617935 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be very likely to generate actual existing words. < 1316669111 2988 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not what I would expect. < 1316669141 345947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's a known deficiency which I'm correcting now. < 1316669153 896468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code has all the infrastructure for it, it just hasn't been written yet. < 1316669159 309332 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`macro < 1316669163 287530 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NKRUMAH'S < 1316669167 944928 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, it looks to me like you're just randomly selecting entries < 1316669169 458246 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, maybe not. < 1316669180 511260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not. It just statistically ends up like that often. < 1316669184 317206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, like I said, correcting now. < 1316669205 135000 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you're an asshole. Why can't you just let me have fun? < 1316669215 880420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you calling me an asshole for writing a program? < 1316669240 345236 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically writing one that I am writing. It's kind of rude. < 1316669252 244605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a really weird idea of rude. < 1316669257 210103 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "oh hey I can spit this out instantly why are you taking so long?" < 1316669275 324936 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find your idea of rude quite offensive < 1316669281 879052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have issues or something? I saw something mentioned that sounded interesting and hacked up a Haskell progra. < 1316669283 94794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :program. < 1316669298 764900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there meant to be a moratorium on coding things you're coding, because I think you need a patent for that?? < 1316669311 445770 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n-grams (c) cakeprophet < 1316669311 597790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that n-gram stuff came up waaay before today anyway < 1316669315 107616 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO NOT STEAL < 1316669324 85484 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what I mean. < 1316669403 881379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1316669473 717278 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to be able to describe it in a way you find suitable. You will find issues with my reasoning. < 1316669504 711436 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like if i said i want to make a cake and then you made a better cake than me before i made my cake....and then laughed....and laughec......ad na laughed............ < 1316669505 506088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly because... your reasoning is flawed? < 1316669523 531215 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it spoils the fun. now I feel like I'm wasting my time. < 1316669538 311929 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1316669543 97227 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it spoil the fun < 1316669553 946125 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :see... I'm wasting my time right now < 1316669556 868409 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to explain this concept to you. < 1316669560 742060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: so what was I meant to do < 1316669561 343513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1316669564 315387 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other people have done n-grams. it's not like you're the first or anything. < 1316669568 906729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this sounds interesting i am going to open emacs and ghci and... < 1316669569 663345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1316669570 157240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1316669570 967936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't do that < 1316669573 29290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :closing < 1316669581 361322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that would make me feel pretty lame too < 1316669585 547323 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably give up while I'm ahead and get some sleep. especially considering I've only had one hour of that for this day. < 1316669699 843840 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm pretty sure if it were just something that you simply found interesting you wouldn't have presented it to me in the way you did. < 1316669733 272653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never found your predictions of me particularly accurate < 1316669752 918244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ok i didn't realise you took n-grams so seriously < 1316669771 792756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...despite the fact I talked about implementing n-grams for like days late last month < 1316669803 44136 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is simply my perspective, based on the way you presented it. It seemed to be mocking. Is that an unreasonable inference? < 1316669818 75181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1316669901 325420 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you're still an asshole either way. good night. < 1316669907 921608 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night cakeprophet < 1316670016 888917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot defend position →→→ call opopnent asshole < 1316670027 732825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :calling me an asshole is like the oldest trick in the book... it's in Genesis < 1316670044 127426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :genesasshole < 1316670045 611808 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your'e also a nazi. bets thats not in genesis. < 1316670046 166563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :genashole < 1316670074 734206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: SHT,U UP JEW < 1316670079 991760 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1316670087 448793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION OPPRESSES U FOUR CALLING ME NAZI < 1316670096 184718 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im opresed < 1316670101 673614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im putting you in jail cell and making you listen to white noise... ON REPEAT ! ! ! < 1316670103 723233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HARD FUCKER < 1316670108 278657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\\\\\\\\\///////// < 1316670137 875688 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; ;_: ;_; ;_-------_____:;; < 1316670159 605585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) ; ) < 1316670167 989014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : yeAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh NAZI RIDE PURE FOREVER < 1316670177 425078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>~) >~) >~ ) < 1316670192 865871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs, leaves trail of magic < 1316670196 908647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the magic is not magic ) < 1316670258 110519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nazi misino: < 1316670260 630454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : - destroy all frendship < 1316670262 842841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : - make unhappy forever < 1316670272 335160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : - no cute aminals!!!!!!!!!!!!&^ < 1316670280 448426 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : - n grams < 1316670296 145425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : - theft < 1316670302 472807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>: - ) < 1316670309 37973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(: - < < 1316670316 908071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha that lok like a sad smiley < 1316670317 990779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with hat < 1316670319 245202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bu no < 1316670320 309364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is not < 1316670324 299904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is nazi smiley < 1316670325 510979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nazimleyl < 1316670331 869193 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : - asshole < 1316670337 666803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : - FUCK YOU < 1316670346 342694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wow " < 1316670374 530083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thissss ins the genesis... of burning people w/ are not nazis ;) ; ) : >: - ) < 1316670424 67508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: sory if i hurt youre feelings, < 1316670434 447037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY ARE DEAD < 1316670438 410908 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is how hurt they are < 1316670438 433933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1316670439 412446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip rip rip < 1316670439 994529 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1316670440 753822 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed < 1316670441 583491 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :them < 1316670443 62098 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1316670449 703848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CANNOT DEAL WIT HTHE UGILT ITS HARASEMNT < 1316670453 653046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :auuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUGH < 1316670464 983906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION burns, explodes, booms into fire, becomes kitten, kitten lives a tohusand years, becomes angel kitten, angel dies < 1316670472 439897 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1316670475 480119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv < 1316670528 437474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELCOME, < 1316670531 750120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TO, < 1316670532 277620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE, < 1316670532 872219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEXT, < 1316670533 561385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEVEL, < 1316670539 522648 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :naziland castle < 1316670543 961781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~~~title: "" -- yes that < 1316670545 683148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :naziland castle < 1316670549 272642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENTER CASTLE < 1316670553 223345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you are now in the castle) < 1316670555 854996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(state command) < 1316670557 611989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316670565 662697 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurt feelings < 1316670571 495563 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everey feelings < 1316670585 457292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR HURT FEELINGS8!8!8!8!8!8!8! at this rate you will be a BAD NAZI ASS in only FIVE YEARS +motivational seminars! < 1316670588 510702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :state commande, < 1316670588 932561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316670623 541508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STATE < 1316670624 440963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMAMNDE, < 1316670625 421061 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make more feeligns so i canm hurt them < 1316670625 547052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316670629 940843 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then hurt theM < 1316670647 786057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU MAKE MORE FEELINGS BY BREEDING WTIH THE BREEDING FLOWER ITS AN INTENSIVE GRUESOME PROCESS THAT ELAVES YUO WITH TEN FEWER INTERNAL ORGANS AND BLOOD SPEWING OUT OF EVERY ORIFICE < 1316670652 904872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THETEHN YOU PUNCH THEM TO DEATH SCREAMING "I DONT LIOVE YOU < 1316670654 247968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE MY KIDS < 1316670654 595727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT < 1316670656 678102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DONT LIVE OE YOU < 1316670657 797161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IVE < 1316670659 792340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER OLOVED YOU < 1316670661 7071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND I HATE YOU < 1316670661 913596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1316670662 292949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they < 1316670664 998255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are kiFILLED WITH BLOOD < 1316670671 767540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND AS THEY SLOWLY START TO DIE WHILE SCREAMING "DADDY I LOVE YUO" < 1316670672 710974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU FEEL < 1316670673 796622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR THE FIRST TIME < 1316670675 670773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT YOU THINK < 1316670678 625840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIGHT BE THE SLIGHTEST INKLINGS < 1316670680 658287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OF EMOTION < 1316670682 357137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUILT, EVEN < 1316670684 849233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DESPISE YOURSELF FOR IT < 1316670693 498376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DESIRE ONLY TO PURGE YOURSELF OF ALL FEELING < 1316670695 701670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND TO BECOME A BAD NAZI ASS < 1316670696 363719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENTER < 1316670697 125598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMMAND < 1316670698 451533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316670707 956418 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :purge self of all felings < 1316670710 432953 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :become bad nazi ass < 1316670717 940490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO YUOU PROPOSE TO DO THIS????//// < 1316670718 869325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316670725 405368 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill self < 1316670735 325605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YUO PUNCH YOUSELRF LIKE YOU DID YOUR CHILDREN < 1316670738 886744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT IT IS NO YUOSE < 1316670740 74220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE ALREADY < 1316670740 892821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO HARD < 1316670742 933627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TO FAR ON THE PATH TO BECOMING A < 1316670744 461925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAD NAZI ASS < 1316670747 709455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE PUNCHES ONLY STRENGTHEN YOU < 1316670749 28902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEXT COMMAND < 1316670749 201421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316670791 889040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEXT COMMAND < 1316670792 290645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316670796 695590 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i draw blood can i drink the blood < 1316670809 371211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEO NLY BLOOD IS ON YUORE CHILDREN < 1316670815 108442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU LEAN DOWN AND SUCK UP ALL THEIR BLOOD < 1316670815 200521 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drink children blood < 1316670817 900043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU THINK THAT MAYBE < 1316670818 723163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PERHAPS < 1316670821 48178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU MIGHT BECOME A < 1316670824 358356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` , NAZI CMVAMPIRE'' < 1316670825 315244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT < 1316670825 775597 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `: not found < 1316670828 595044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU MUST NOT LET THAT DISTRACT YUO < 1316670833 404723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU MUST FIRST BECOME A BAD NAZI ASS < 1316670838 39822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ONLY THEN CAN YOU JOIN THE RANKS OF VAMPIRES < 1316670842 426734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUDDENLY < 1316670850 137515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU FEEL YOUR MUSCLES EXPLODING < 1316670853 220965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND THEY EXPLODE INTO MUSCLE < 1316670856 745379 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i become < 1316670860 646174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CHEW OFF THIS NEW MUSCLE < 1316670863 794805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND IT SPEWS LBOOD < 1316670866 195625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHICH YOU THEN DRINK < 1316670869 128075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT FEELS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD < 1316670878 393483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE CURRENTLY BLEEDING PROFUSELY AND ARE SLIGHTLY FURTHER ON THE PATH TO BECOMING A BAD NAZI ASS < 1316670880 532102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :INSERT COMMANDE < 1316670881 44592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316670923 660849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use blood to deface property < 1316670928 923848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT PROPERTY < 1316670929 779152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316670935 704849 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of it < 1316670948 126409 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smear blood on children, elderly, pregnant women, normal people too < 1316670964 433612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARE YOU < 1316670966 452749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw blood moustaches < 1316670966 731941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :REFERRING TO PEOPLE < 1316670967 952814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AS PROPERTY < 1316670968 429627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE < 1316670969 374065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THATS GOOD < 1316670970 447414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I LIKE THAT < 1316670971 569982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHOWS INITIATIVE < 1316670979 535220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU GAZE OUT < 1316670984 425697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A SEA OF PEOPLE IS WAITING FOR YOU < 1316670994 223205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT BEFORE YOU SMEAR BLOOD ON THEM < 1316670999 534114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU GET THE URGE TO DECAPITATE THEM < 1316671000 924345 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surf sea of people < 1316671009 726095 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surf sea of blood < 1316671011 746066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO YOU STICK OUT YOUR TONGUE AND RUN HEADFIRST AT THE SEA OF PEOPLE < 1316671018 864296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR TONGUE IS SO STRONG THAT IT LOBS THEIR HEADS CLEAN OFF < 1316671026 476385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITHIN TEN SECONDS YOU HAVE DECAPITATED EVERY SEROJISRINGEL PERSON PRESENT < 1316671033 6182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU SURF THE SEA OF BLOOD < 1316671035 178794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\\/ < 1316671037 602790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DECISION INTERRUPT < 1316671040 51163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\\/ < 1316671048 739566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT TURNS OUT THAT YUO HAVE SOME ~~~drugs~~~ IN YOUR POSESPSION < 1316671054 518818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THESE DRUGS WILL HELP YOU ON THE PATH TO BECOMEING A BAD NAZI ASS < 1316671062 79114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO YUO TAKE THEM???? OR ARE YOU A LAWFUL BAD ANZI ASS < 1316671064 265384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAKE YUORE DECISION < 1316671066 187312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316671080 276620 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :give drugs to children, ingessst children < 1316671090 12493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1316671090 894124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1316671096 971314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YUO DO THAT WHILE SURFING ON THE SEAO F BLOOD < 1316671100 392869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly < 1316671117 422293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything < 1316671118 623528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :becomes < 1316671120 587178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tehtiero best < 1316671122 326440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\/\/\/\\/\/\/ < 1316671125 583053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOoooooo000000-`=`-=`=`-``-` < 1316671127 705191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :` =,` ,` ,`, =`=-, `= ,` -` < 1316671128 907573 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1316671130 396563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : / / < 1316671134 791534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :,z. m;l z=pd a\ ;a][ q \;e 'lg < 1316671136 84617 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor hackego < 1316671137 515487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : o-=sd========================= < 1316671140 8158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABOVE IS A PICTURE < 1316671142 397825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OF WHAT YOU SEE < 1316671146 345973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) : 0 OH YEAAAH >: - ) < 1316671147 274272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>: - ) < 1316671148 646036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>: - ) < 1316671151 375909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )>: - )V < 1316671154 77856 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im highest < 1316671154 278326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HARD NAZI ASS < 1316671155 816045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard nazi ass < 1316671156 105285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard < 1316671157 70067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAZI < 1316671157 375300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ass < 1316671158 824059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard NAZI ass < 1316671160 666003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard nazi ASS < 1316671162 881010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HARD nazi ass < 1316671164 564462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HARD nazi ASS < 1316671166 686097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HARD NAZI ASS < 1316671168 903236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HARD NAZI ass < 1316671170 891388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard NAZI ASS < 1316671173 473210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HARD NAZI ASS < 1316671176 487781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : .;, e. e/.w,f /we, /.,ew/ f/we., f/.we,f / < 1316671180 494794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STATKJE< COMMADNJEK < 1316671182 387592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : >>>>>>>> < 1316671184 402210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :, < 1316671208 159475 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bathe in blood surf. thats a good thing right. < 1316671215 795366 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :body surf < 1316671219 129034 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :while bathing < 1316671220 454865 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in blood < 1316671229 14334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1316671234 143893 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott what is wrong with you < 1316671235 25763 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard nazi multitasking < 1316671236 39398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : \w/ \w/ \/w \w/ \w/\ w/\ /w\ /\w/ \w/\ /w\/ \w \o/ \o/ \m/ < 1316671236 297432 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                                  ¦   | < 1316671236 458768 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                                 ´¸¨ /< < 1316671247 553237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AS YOU SURF THE SEA OF BLOOD YOU INGEST YOUR BLOOD-SOAKED CHILDREN < 1316671249 940408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Madoka-Kaname < 1316671255 707457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to play < 1316671258 799021 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1316671278 753170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YUO KILL Madoka-Kaname AND THROW THE BODY INTO THE PILE OF BODIES AND CRUS HTHEM WITH A GIGANTIC CRUSHING MACHINE < 1316671285 359542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR STRENGTH INCREASES MASSIVELY < 1316671290 858614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU BECOME AS TALL AS A BUILDING < 1316671292 107226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND RADIOACTIVE < 1316671295 541912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND MADE OF FUCKING WALRUSES < 1316671299 190600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU FUCKING DO < 1316671299 645422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316671301 120257 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flex nazi muscles < 1316671314 653577 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather be a character in something by Urobuchi Gen < 1316671315 947503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU FLEX THEM SO HARD IT CAUSES AN EARTHQUAKE IN EVERY MAJOR CONTINENT AND AUSTRALIA < 1316671317 910642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHICH IS < 1316671320 322334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL THE CONTINENTS < 1316671322 615285 :adam__!~adam@h43.55.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316671326 552335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU SURF ON THE EARTHQUAKE < 1316671333 556555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some wave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1316671334 618326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316671336 668955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enter < 1316671337 260678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :command < 1316671337 639861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316671340 795922 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a wave of blood < 1316671344 257494 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it a wave of blood < 1316671348 472482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only suitable wave < 1316671359 349615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT WOULD REQUIRE COVERING EVERY LANDMASS ON THE PLANET WITH BLOOD < 1316671360 903994 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1316671368 276172 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN DO THAT < 1316671377 998713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAS HOPING YOU'D SAY THAT < 1316671381 460976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO YOU PLAN TO ACHIEVE THIS < 1316671415 661950 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1316671420 519769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ??// < 1316671449 27442 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill people into planet < 1316671454 455740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :every < 1316671455 695691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people? < 1316671459 725135 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every people < 1316671474 610823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you go up to the first person on the planet < 1316671480 499857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an old man he is 99.99 years and 99 seconds < 1316671484 918744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you whisper < 1316671486 732011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1316671489 599194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your name < 1316671494 458650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :while pressing your eyeballs into his neck < 1316671498 359209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he replies < 1316671510 976057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the snakes from his ears and tongue surround your face and start smothering you < 1316671513 610415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you find you cannot breathe < 1316671516 851575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he replies < 1316671523 957365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am you... < 1316671530 272333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are suffocating what do you do < 1316671530 616196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316671564 356739 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bite/claw/whatever-kill snakes them use them to choke the false me!!!!! < 1316671578 209135 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :なにあれ < 1316671584 483410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you attack them but it only makes them stronger < 1316671589 205133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you briefly see a flash of light < 1316671591 928564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it sustains < 1316671597 365429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one snake comes round to the front of your face < 1316671600 331427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks you in the eye < 1316671600 782703 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :charm snakes with nazi charms < 1316671603 486419 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you are not right in the head < 1316671603 876312 :adam__!~adam@h43.55.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net NICK :CakeProphet < 1316671605 14953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and opens its mouth, its fangs showing < 1316671611 323676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it moves into your eyes < 1316671617 322162 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no my eyes < 1316671618 78722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :touches your eyeball with a scratch < 1316671624 23883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then plunges further with its fangs < 1316671631 893550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you feel a sharp pain and your entire left field of vision fills with blood < 1316671632 417654 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i have danger eyes < 1316671636 117949 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PART #esoteric :"elliott has gone stark raving mad..." < 1316671641 550594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually the snake crawls all the way into your eyeball < 1316671647 4842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you see the same thing happen to your right eye too < 1316671657 646708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you blink and stare at the man who replies "i am... a person..." < 1316671666 558847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you touch his nose and he disintegrates into salt < 1316671667 124852 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are my eyes made of knives or lasers or fire or poison < 1316671669 399673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do < 1316671669 779599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316671696 669289 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taste salt...is it realyl sa.t.... < 1316671705 971811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes OH YES it is the best salt... you have ever tasted < 1316671711 50886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could really do with some blood and salt on toast right now < 1316671713 10275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you make it < 1316671728 689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly you are using the toast to surf across the continents; people explode as you pass them < 1316671736 60566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you feel a great power within you as you realise you are now the size of a small village < 1316671743 907614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have twenty-two arms < 1316671758 299730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you notice that your chest is actually composed of a smaller version of yourself < 1316671759 826240 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arm and salt samdwich time < 1316671765 275666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wave to yourself, and the smaller yourself grabs your arm and bites off your hand < 1316671766 287078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is okay < 1316671768 256878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have twenty-one more < 1316671771 103964 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myself is a good samdwich topping too < 1316671775 305251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think of smiling but decide against it < 1316671777 208759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all < 1316671782 610234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are a hard nazi ass in training < 1316671794 13075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you devour the sandwich with all the ingredients and fly over the world < 1316671802 98955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you sure have a craving for DRUGS ON TOAST < 1316671804 268724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do < 1316671804 636125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316671813 859700 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i still have drugs children < 1316671819 769198 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :them on arms toast would be good now.......... < 1316671825 519947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm that sounds good < 1316671829 969068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you wanna make that bro < 1316671833 930714 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yES < 1316671856 190870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you prepare the bread and lick out your dragon tongue at it causing fire, it is now burnt toast... just as you, a hard nazi ass, in training ,likes it < 1316671865 588466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you layer the arms on and they melt..mmmmmm < 1316671875 498804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally you pile the drugs children on top and they morph into one with the toast < 1316671881 538630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :their skin melting and re-hardening as they seep into the toast < 1316671889 698543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they cry the song of nightmares and sprout eyeballs from every skin pore < 1316671895 237087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have so much drugs. < 1316671897 316488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you eat it < 1316671899 99292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to eat it < 1316671899 650837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316671912 922827 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yES < 1316671922 159331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :teh world becomes a NES game < 1316671925 699537 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :viGOURoUSLEY Eat < 1316671927 965310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLEEP bloop BLEEP BLOOOOOOP < 1316671930 385274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIGOROURSLY EAT EVERYTHING < 1316671931 119118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMM < 1316671932 939440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tastes so good < 1316671937 735313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you become the size of the solar system < 1316671942 245330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sprout eyeballs from every pore < 1316671947 890304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is not the drugs < 1316671949 217713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is real life < 1316671951 317749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what happens in drugs < 1316671952 855026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happens in real life < 1316671961 238319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1316671962 360249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) :) :) < 1316671963 861640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)) < 1316671970 485549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you eat a baby and its great < 1316671975 335840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enter command < 1316671976 64553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316671976 816129 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yum < 1316671979 699834 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy baby < 1316672003 450265 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :savoure baby < 1316672003 882105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you enjoy a baby < 1316672005 691004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont eat it < 1316672007 876908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just look at it < 1316672008 410247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and say < 1316672009 94693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dayum < 1316672013 147606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a quality baby right there that is < 1316672017 151043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is a cruel judgement not < 1316672018 374946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a positive one < 1316672022 676163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to keep with your hard nazi ass in training image < 1316672042 717297 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more you know: "Replacing the WebKit.framework that ships with Mac OS X or any of its components with those from a locally built copy or a nightly build of WebKit is HIGHLY discouraged. Doing so will likely leave your system unusuable and cause a tear in the fabric of spacetime—so don't do it!" < 1316672043 93729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you begin to wonder if instead of a hard nazi ass you shoul dbecome a christian or a utilitarian or a girafe or something < 1316672045 59254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think < 1316672047 565507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672053 209355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie do you want to play < 1316672065 390496 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really; I'm at work; all work and no play. < 1316672075 368136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a very serious game < 1316672081 504239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it deal with social theme like nazi and opresion < 1316672091 967604 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I've been reading a word here and there. < 1316672095 906489 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be hard nazi dgerafe < 1316672097 225900 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly seems serious enough. < 1316672103 140430 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to be a hard nazi dgerafe < 1316672119 351143 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my specialty is blood grafiti < 1316672121 812079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like sophie's choice but without the choice < 1316672136 396768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or schindler's list without the list < 1316672153 898639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes you can < 1316672160 25912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you become a ~cool nazi girafe dude~ < 1316672168 6617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're in a mario game < 1316672172 764983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its totally two dimensional and this is cool < 1316672181 23652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of innocent children but you already turned them into blood drugs just by looking at them < 1316672181 344880 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :become the mario game < 1316672184 228337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1316672186 617129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whad now < 1316672186 891802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672210 6644 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :become every mario game....even the bad ones...... < 1316672228 814030 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be played.....the players are now blood..... < 1316672230 380014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1316672230 549943 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blood spells < 1316672232 6802 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you < 1316672233 268837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do GREAET yes < 1316672235 830169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1316672237 688744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blood spells that < 1316672239 891684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you lick it up < 1316672241 96072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with your frog tongue < 1316672243 548294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and al your eyeballs < 1316672246 154819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your nazi mario game powers < 1316672269 453965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you have unlocked a new level < 1316672273 446405 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1316672273 690745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you wish to progress to level two < 1316672274 89014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672281 360647 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good hting to do it sounds like... < 1316672284 145228 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i DO < 1316672293 625260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you DO < 1316672295 745040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole universe is wiped < 1316672297 658640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a loading screen pops up < 1316672300 700253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :loading affsets... < 1316672304 270250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :downloading asses.... < 1316672309 687803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :court marshalling the friends..... < 1316672312 370493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nazi......................... < 1316672315 909849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome..................................................................... < 1316672319 740143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :destroying everything you love............ < 1316672323 407997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :emailing your parents.................................. < 1316672324 812067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :loaded < 1316672335 632948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the screen flashes every colour for ten seconds and your eyes get shot out < 1316672339 866250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now your eyeballs are just filled with blood < 1316672342 648314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have no idea where you are < 1316672343 105544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672371 553209 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel around. it feels good. < 1316672378 399004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1316672379 253289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1316672384 24916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have to realise < 1316672392 711515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that your expert position in the previous level < 1316672398 589083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is like a N00B ASS GAMER in this one.... < 1316672403 274912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>: - ) >: - ) < 1316672404 772011 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no........ < 1316672407 492386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want your eyes back < 1316672408 491678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672412 748111 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be nice.... < 1316672415 300579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1316672417 943862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have your eyes back < 1316672419 699402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is: < 1316672427 785811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tasteful room, decorated as in the eighteen-nineties; < 1316672440 565085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :furnished wtih grandfather clock, cane, chair to sit in, rocking chair to sit and rock in (comes with electric guitar + amplifier), < 1316672447 299956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :carpet made out of bones, < 1316672451 262752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :staircase (tastefully spiralled), < 1316672460 136422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :children (not animate; immortal, impossible to destroy); < 1316672467 862644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :portal into fourth dimension (violates geometric laws); < 1316672468 507207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat. < 1316672470 553727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672500 793132 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw cat and hcildren into portal at same time.........observe........ < 1316672513 240765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you acnnot move the childreern. they are part of the laws of physics... < 1316672539 550905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672552 711405 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the cat, then < 1316672561 762599 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or: move portal into children < 1316672570 787786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cat tumbles into the portal. it appears to the left of you and above you, clipping with all its cuts visible (but not spilling out). < 1316672573 999321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it meows irritatedly. < 1316672580 342417 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, again < 1316672592 867467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you try to move the portal into children, but you find you cannot. the portal moves fine, but the children move away as you move the portal there, then back as you move it back. < 1316672605 112381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you try to pick up the cat but upon moving your hand inside its guts, it teleports into the portal. < 1316672607 833967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you go and pick it up. < 1316672628 719039 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use portal to push childrne up stairs < 1316672651 244942 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my arms dfoes this...the others is in the rocking chair....rocking out........ < 1316672652 389082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do this but as you go towards the tsairs the children turn around, as rock. you notice their eyes are completely white. < 1316672660 818227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they open their mouth and pure blackness comes out in jagged waves. < 1316672671 715889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it intersects your body and they cry. < 1316672675 734915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672677 189345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :level reset < 1316672677 207446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672682 69287 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh No < 1316672693 521795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ok u only lost about three turns my frend < 1316672718 717212 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rock chair up the stairs..w.ere doing this to gether,,,the chaie.r.....and me...... < 1316672722 90523 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rockieng < 1316672731 20998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1316672732 315571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are < 1316672734 306994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its FUCKING AWESOME < 1316672735 959679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what it needs < 1316672737 113645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is some drugs < 1316672738 93033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672754 745792 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use NAZI MAGIC to CONJURATE up some SWET DRUGS < 1316672773 971419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1316672777 393870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now youure in a corridor < 1316672779 822652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everything seems kind of < 1316672780 547250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blurry < 1316672781 267670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672824 779121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316672849 993539 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gently remove skull lenses from nazi vest pocket, put on eyes < 1316672859 791156 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every type of lenses..... < 1316672864 548993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this feels like a good idea. but first, you think < 1316672872 52583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :best to listen to hard nazi ass.wav (about three and a half megabytes) < 1316672878 66023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you upload this file with your other heart. < 1316672879 435354 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1316672886 62917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is about twenty per cent uploaded. < 1316672887 369426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is cool. < 1316672936 31216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fifty-seven per cent. < 1316672942 775764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be a great soundtrack to nazi drugs, you think. < 1316672957 165408 :variable!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1316673008 440362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://ompldr.org/vYWgzYw < 1316673012 808230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you download this file and listen to it. < 1316673019 789683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[pause for reality to catch up with perfection.] < 1316673033 777362 :variable!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1316673056 91655 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great soundtrack to nazi drugs < 1316673066 398310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you prepared to continue < 1316673074 726989 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i THinK so < 1316673087 72454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you still in corridor. but now you have skull lenses and eyes and shit. < 1316673087 420346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673109 581326 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i playeing the soundtraxck.... < 1316673120 388884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1316673123 989886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its great, man. < 1316673124 411368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673131 537689 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the coredior less blurey now < 1316673151 23181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1316673152 42647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673158 620482 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :focus coredior < 1316673172 496875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cant man. its not your vision. the corridor itself is blurry. < 1316673173 52378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673185 885729 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :command corredior to focus < 1316673192 685306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the corridor laughs hollowly. < 1316673193 34320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673199 722076 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :command HARDER < 1316673208 9109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you command so hard. < 1316673209 786362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hard. < 1316673212 875722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the corridor only gets blurrier. < 1316673213 223145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673231 880290 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :walk down corridor while shouting profanitiesies at it < 1316673237 827040 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the ONLY waY < 1316673245 100116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do, and continue to mentally command as hard as you can < 1316673249 792896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you focus all your energy on commanding < 1316673260 249672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your eyes squint up and the corridor becomes as blurry as ever, but you know this time it is your vision from squinting. < 1316673268 820627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do not even bother to see the corridor as you command so hard. < 1316673289 356845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1316673297 712061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you finish commanding, exhausted, and prepare to continue walking down < 1316673301 237097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see the corridor again < 1316673306 584953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is just as blurry as when your eyes were a-squint < 1316673318 355537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it bends and becomes diagonal, trapezoid in shape, almost, < 1316673323 263797 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :give drugs to correidor < 1316673325 783361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its walls start to come close together, blurry as they are, < 1316673331 481624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the walls get closer and closer, < 1316673333 163171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you hyperventilate, < 1316673340 743322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweat beads drip down from every pore of your skin and you panic and run and dash, < 1316673344 291705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the walls keep closing in tighter < 1316673354 812427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they hit your skin and crack your bones and blood pours out and your organs are crushed and as the walls meet < 1316673366 981762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both simultaneously cross the infinitesimal space that is the difference between < 1316673369 190840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"touching exactly" < 1316673369 622295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1316673370 821568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"same" < 1316673375 418667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they pass one infinitesimal distance further < 1316673382 422586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crossing over each other and becoming impossible negative space < 1316673385 298281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but your body is still inside < 1316673392 398716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it explodes out becoming the entire three-dimensional (four actually, but) space < 1316673397 831216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :static abounds everywhere < 1316673399 554806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoughts are lost < 1316673402 995562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole universe is nothignness and you are it < 1316673411 75881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your hard fuckin nazi ass becomes the curtains of this universe of horrors < 1316673411 459232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316673414 781171 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i now the children, portal, cat, chair < 1316673418 112524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRlevel reset < 1316673418 829315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673423 159589 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1316673427 728182 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :become children < 1316673433 887653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1316673437 146263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey man this is sweet. < 1316673441 324061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the life of a children: so sweet. < 1316673445 486107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see this punk coming up. < 1316673449 160237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tries to push you up the stairs with a portal. < 1316673452 49144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'll have none of that shit. < 1316673458 498850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot some mothafuckin black rays at him. yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh < 1316673470 285675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you're feeling accomplished. you slide back into your natural position as the portal slides back as the punk disappears < 1316673471 745500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now bro < 1316673479 824778 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :devoure his flesh < 1316673486 433757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok < 1316673487 651294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its pretty good < 1316673489 978441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty good < 1316673493 485577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the best you've had but < 1316673493 979203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1316673496 204463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673515 480843 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :push chair into portal < 1316673527 706627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chair or rocking chair < 1316673538 977640 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :change of plans < 1316673545 700459 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :put cat on rocking chair, it rocks into portal < 1316673564 967484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put the cat on the rocking chair. it starts rocking the fuck out. soloing on the guitar and everything. goddam. that's one rockin cat. < 1316673574 89580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rocks into the portal. < 1316673577 350815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly rock is everywhere < 1316673580 144524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yer in a maze of rock < 1316673583 181976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think this is pretty cool < 1316673598 407802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also everywhere is cat so every piece of matter is now furry and breathing and has a beating heart inside and ok you admit this is kind of gross < 1316673598 870313 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazeing < 1316673600 638903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but dude < 1316673601 876208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maze of rock < 1316673607 406249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if the guitar is like... a cat guitar < 1316673610 779700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maze of rock. < 1316673611 719813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673629 981082 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maze of rock < 1316673632 727848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673641 844603 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno wander around the maze of rock or something < 1316673653 375149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you begin to think < 1316673657 574869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you want to be a hard nazi ass < 1316673658 335865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1316673658 902899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673667 483852 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right that < 1316673675 27107 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1316673680 677765 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :command maze of rock to make me a hard nazi ass < 1316673692 157111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do it < 1316673693 718890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it hugs you < 1316673695 588127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its furry like a cat < 1316673697 406669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is wonderful < 1316673699 838727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you feel that maybe hugs < 1316673704 588869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are not the way to become a hard nazi ass < 1316673708 595909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to exit this level < 1316673731 41164 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill hugs drink blood < 1316673734 838605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to exit this level < 1316673747 913062 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will exiting the level prevent me from killing hugs < 1316673750 150202 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1316673752 6431 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to kill hugs < 1316673758 792717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no way to know. < 1316673760 265525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673770 352902 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill hugs while exiting level < 1316673786 57718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do it, but the hugs are ripped away from you as you exit < 1316673787 519497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct decision < 1316673790 797214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have unlocked a new level < 1316673794 115014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you wish to progress to level three < 1316673798 393998 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1316673804 29041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aight. < 1316673806 486273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your name is monqy. < 1316673811 906263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are on the path to becoming a HARD NAZI ASS. < 1316673814 313709 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good level < 1316673814 508307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are in #esoteric. < 1316673817 251168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do? < 1316673817 799228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673838 517554 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard decisionS < 1316673875 233979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673879 603248 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helP < 1316673895 435443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673926 692714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673934 984694 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im bad at beingmonqy in #espeteric < 1316673940 590827 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1316673947 107098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing you must realise. < 1316673948 977559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that by definition < 1316673955 96970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are the best at being monqy in #esoteric < 1316673958 981278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not #espeteric though that's a whole nother ball game < 1316673962 921570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316673972 649964 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im realize this now, ok. < 1316674048 2632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674064 206776 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardest level......great dificulties lie within monqy being not a hard nazi asss at alll,,,,,i have gone backwards in progres,, < 1316674067 313054 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wallowe in shame < 1316674074 202222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1316674075 764857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot. < 1316674080 930256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that is not what hard nazi asses do. < 1316674081 619668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674107 650333 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :explore esoteric for ways to beome a hard nazi ass.s. < 1316674136 874694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright. < 1316674139 222083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to perform this action < 1316674139 568345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :say < 1316674145 453320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : how do i beome a hard nazi ass.s.? < 1316674153 459153 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : how do i beome a hard nazi ass.s.? < 1316674157 583903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :without < 1316674158 929126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the <>s < 1316674166 741165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the monqy inside < 1316674166 962378 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy how do i become a hard nazi ass.s.? < 1316674168 934165 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1316674171 746899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the space after < 1316674172 532370 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i become a hard nazi ass.s.? < 1316674173 515877 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need < 1316674173 993343 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlep < 1316674190 789914 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :becomeing is not my < 1316674191 612687 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :forte < 1316674202 551789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: help the man < 1316674214 569733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tahtht's work) < 1316674253 826243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: (this level is played in realtime) < 1316674260 638704 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1316674267 927267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you want me to try and help you < 1316674276 47173 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may helP... < 1316674289 316149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi ok. < 1316674289 734401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. < 1316674291 728224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think to become that. < 1316674295 330915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to enter commands into the game. < 1316674297 339074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that you become that. < 1316674302 416985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try listening to hard nazi ass.wav. < 1316674303 673386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may help you. < 1316674308 420253 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aeooaoeooaeooo < 1316674330 964851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know about the lyrics to that is that they include "hard nazi ass" < 1316674334 769516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know no more... < 1316674348 550121 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aoeoaoeohardnaziassaeaooeoaoeoeaoeoeaaoo < 1316674367 65563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316674367 240925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316674367 258867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316674367 438809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316674367 611820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316674367 784790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316674369 876889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674376 621204 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :become hard nazi ass < 1316674380 79118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1316674380 451909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674424 16760 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rolepaly nazi on journey to hard ass to become...,,,,in this adventure,,,it happens < 1316674439 637770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you do that < 1316674443 476619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you open the game console < 1316674445 25763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and start to type in < 1316674446 440719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the console says < 1316674448 838856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ > ] < 1316674450 257815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you type in < 1316674450 647962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674458 865686 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :become hard nazi ass < 1316674464 933833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how < 1316674465 407735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674468 690533 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1316674475 1902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674492 418862 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the adventure....is the twist ending....that the hard nazi ass was in my heart....all along < 1316674496 758368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1316674499 324958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674500 449946 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1316674523 857037 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :investigate cheats manual < 1316674531 504439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is none. < 1316674532 798129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apply yourself < 1316674533 143378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674534 257715 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to become hard nazi ass.help < 1316674535 606131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember < 1316674538 648563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you have been < 1316674542 724007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing the game you are playing now < 1316674543 355774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as monqy < 1316674546 509169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in #esoteric < 1316674549 118369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the path to becoming a nazi ass < 1316674550 950158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a very long time now < 1316674554 648195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you must ask yourself < 1316674556 820516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is this any different < 1316674559 254195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to what I have been doing ? < 1316674591 990081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674593 592524 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this comnsole game i was not given a propmt like the others,,,, < 1316674599 837047 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look around, console < 1316674600 922238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you were < 1316674606 558303 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh,,,, < 1316674606 620799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : your name is monqy. < 1316674607 2215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : you are on the path to becoming a HARD NAZI ASS. < 1316674607 20266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : you are in #esoteric. < 1316674611 252102 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that one < 1316674618 757734 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a harD prompT < 1316674627 450771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1316674628 410697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1316674632 789938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is what you have been doing for a long time already < 1316674634 438836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just telling you < 1316674637 4657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep doing what youore doing??? < 1316674638 367482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674671 670844 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my doing has become dulll, < 1316674682 560997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :APPLY < 1316674683 251499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR < 1316674683 624921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SELF < 1316674684 341313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674689 980939 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im apply self < 1316674695 889758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674698 362446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you apply yourself < 1316674698 822364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674705 776223 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kicks elliot, screams about hard nazi asses < 1316674713 350582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OW < 1316674714 894836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKKEKK < 1316674719 627071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/INTERRUPT DECISION TIME < 1316674720 913937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UR A JERK < 1316674723 115723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WANNA TRY SOME JERK DRUGS < 1316674723 874408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :??/ < 1316674724 359326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674727 351546 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEs < 1316674743 673511 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they are pOIson, i force them down your throAT < 1316674757 624771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do < 1316674758 725406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i die < 1316674765 54195 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1316674770 443964 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw eliot funeral party < 1316674780 499811 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dances on graves < 1316674878 171601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the desynchronisation between the game fact that i am dead and the real fact that i am alive causes an infinite universe recursion. < 1316674878 638155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674899 883695 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :harnes recusion power to become hard naiz ass < 1316674921 452072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :done. < 1316674921 887457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1316674928 800569 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1316674931 103330 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1316674977 43578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hi < 1316675035 984928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip channel being good 05:40—07:02 < 1316675993 116921 :azaq231!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1316677587 730555 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1316678113 283909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316678144 43590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1316678278 725345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know decent DNS providers? I don't like OpenDNS. I'm tempted to just use Google Public DNS, but... < 1316678291 672946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe I'll run that "try a bunch of DNS servers and find the best" program. < 1316678299 612280 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My ISP" < 1316678309 558316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You vastly overestimate the quality of my ISP. < 1316678314 322943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, your ISP? < 1316678317 592578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck your ISP. < 1316678321 971286 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1316678332 962146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it's lovely, I'm also sure it's shitty from England :P < 1316678338 622692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/p/namebench/ This is the thang < 1316678348 796746 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nepwajhqojdjgwbq JOIN :#esoteric < 1316678358 333572 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it won't respond to DNS queries from non-customers < 1316678364 196978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fascism < 1316678373 1808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll ring them up < 1316678376 263031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'd like to buy JUST DNS." < 1316678385 37624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also I'm in England." < 1316678395 578969 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :DrDerpa < 1316678476 610036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure does take a while < 1316678477 400174 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use one of those alternative-root DNS services, they're so undergrund. < 1316678484 560891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Heh, yes, "undergrund" < 1316678485 991754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Heh, yes, "undergrund". < 1316678490 6736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's certainly one word. < 1316678514 774720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You might want to ban me in advance before oerjan does it after logreading, btw. < 1316678539 135261 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was tempted to spell it "undergründ".) < 1316678543 7649 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a reason? < 1316678547 490921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did seem to be missing an umlaut, yes. < 1316678570 82277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, I have the slightest feeling he may not quite enjoy over an hour of illogical Nazi-drug-toast text adventure gameplay. < 1316678582 933239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a personal failing of his, though, naturally. < 1316678606 125889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh, namebench sure does take a while. < 1316678612 931115 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh, that. Wellll... there weren't any complainers, were there? < 1316678638 142307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, Lymia said I was mad and then /parted, but that was under an alternate nick, so it NEVER HAPPENED. (Rule of IRC.) < 1316678667 948588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody else, but I think everyone else was just asleep and/or busy. < 1316678681 698244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or watching attentively, eagerly anticipating every development. That's possible too. < 1316678701 260673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's alright though, all the cool people are in -minecraft anyway. < 1316678738 594831 :DrDerpa!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1316678785 491874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What _is_ namebench doing? Oh, I see. < 1316678830 700164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the time I'm losing doing nothing while waiting for namebench is greater than the combined amount of time I'll save by switching to a faster DNS provider. < 1316679206 133300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : I tried it but unusual result came out. The result showed my access point IP which is 192.168.1.1 the best one. quit strange but working result was quite good. coul any one explain technically how such thing is possible. Is my access point could be a public DNS. < 1316679641 174343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if maybe I should run a local DNS cache. < 1316681115 491161 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1316681121 110154 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fizzie talked just above < 1316681177 436769 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm, does namebench work well? < 1316681188 378596 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just above what? < 1316681217 118360 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, misread elliott's line as if he was alone, not noticing you < 1316681234 626386 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah'kay. < 1316681241 938441 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Personally I just run a local unbound dns server. < 1316681339 964149 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it that some random university system sends a HTML-only mail with the subject (translated) "Daily summary of notice panel" about *once every week*. < 1316681411 101352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316683331 456409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1316683348 502670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Backetyback. < 1316683354 676437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:46:17: elliott: hm, does namebench work well? < 1316683354 846961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty well, yes. < 1316683757 702438 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316683758 78952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1316685651 340518 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1316686947 309159 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What do Tk bindings usually look like < 1316686957 901813 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have to mess with Tcl crap or is there a mostly-C API available < 1316687566 664040 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1316687571 301557 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chrisfenton.com/cray-1-digital-archeology/ pretty nice < 1316688263 715291 :CakeProphet!~adam@h43.55.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1316688503 147807 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1316688585 420449 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In a few cases, these are native bindings (C and Perl at least) while others create a link between calls to Tcl/Tk and the language." < 1316688670 781153 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl and Tk are both written in C, and the former calls to the latter, so there needs to be some sort of a thing there. < 1316688680 344503 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1316689712 586133 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The file tk.h should be considered a public declaration of the Tk C functions, defines/macros, and structures which a developer can safely depend on." -- oh, please. < 1316690416 720726 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott_ why "oh please"? < 1316690453 123084 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1316690479 744752 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That's not a substitute for API documentation. < 1316690508 242124 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: my tk.h seems to be very well documented in the form of comments < 1316690518 781733 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't beat manpages. < 1316690523 589419 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1316690640 143151 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I used tup a bit, very nice. There is just one issue I have with it really: No equivalent to make's -j < 1316690648 370304 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes... there is... < 1316690651 59055 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read "man tup". < 1316690660 950027 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: hm I did. Will have to check again < 1316690680 564611 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use the num_jobs configuration (user or project-local), or -jN to tup upd. < 1316690712 72335 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1316690935 499925 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: btw what is the correct way to get generated files included in a build? For example I might have a :foreach *.c rule, and a rule that generates a *.c file using bison or some such. < 1316690948 72767 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :will the foreach *.c include the generated .c file? < 1316691110 582515 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: If it occurs after the generating rule, I believe. < 1316691148 852919 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: in textual order in the Tupfile you mean? Or as ordered by those order-only dependencies? < 1316691167 256020 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Textual, I think. Don't quote me on this. I know the order matters in some cases, basically to match what it would do as a shell script. < 1316691175 629512 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1316691215 334666 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.... either order seems to work, but then it is hard to know if it will always work, like on a clean build on another system or such. < 1316691234 741432 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1316691273 607943 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I guess I should ask pikhq? He seems quite knowledgeable about tup. < 1316691282 610252 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Just post on tup-user. < 1316691287 443286 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mike will probably answer it within a day or two. < 1316691289 638674 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ergh, mailing list < 1316691292 288912 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1316691299 127277 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's google groups. < 1316691301 871126 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, tup-users < 1316691306 487952 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you don't have to subscribe or anything. < 1316691317 759704 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay. I never even used google groups, would have to figure out how that works too < 1316691322 762929 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, not a mailing list < 1316691349 676471 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's primarily subscribe-and-email-reply based. But it can work basically like a crappy imitation of a web forum. < 1316691357 355405 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to receive messages through email and can post through the web. < 1316691362 991169 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's low-traffic, mind. < 1316691365 544438 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1316691374 923925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316691479 79994 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: oh btw, I noticed tup complain about /etc/fuse.conf not being readable on my ubuntu system. tup seems to work correctly as far as I can tell though < 1316691479 734557 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1316691483 57501 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea? < 1316691671 499413 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it'll try to read it, since it uses fuse < 1316691729 631927 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: hm doesn't stuff need to be suid to use fuse? < 1316691763 951977 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1316691768 923265 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought that was required < 1316691807 979389 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sshfs seems to manage without. < 1316691854 965906 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1316691859 118650 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the whole point of fuse :P < 1316691879 821322 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not the *whole* point of FUSE. < 1316691887 960388 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is fusermount that is suid < 1316691902 681268 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be able to unmount I guess < 1316692068 258333 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, at least a quarter of it. < 1316692294 187715 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might have been Debian that came with fusermount normally suid-root but executable only by the 'fuse' group. < 1316692304 671931 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure about Ubuntu; here it seems to be for all users. < 1316692335 197367 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1316692640 788762 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1316692641 827116 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, what's it use fuse for? < 1316692680 841129 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you mean tup? < 1316692683 965278 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :tracking deps I think < 1316692726 65860 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: since it can see every file opened by commands it execute that way. Unlike a LD_PRELOAD it would work even for static binaries < 1316692794 769271 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i see the spelling in this channel has gründ to a halt. < 1316692813 348142 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you got to the nazi game yet < 1316692824 695162 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Vorpal got it right; fuse is also more portable than LD_PRELOAD. < 1316692834 346976 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i was planning to skip the rest of the logs < 1316692846 610664 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's after the game < 1316692853 852459 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, you totally shouldn't :D < 1316692861 916511 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1316692871 165338 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: hm I thought fuse was linux only < 1316692884 457767 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no < 1316692899 43399 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: what OSes does it support then? FreeBSD? Windows? OS X? < 1316692912 469329 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X yes. BSDs I think so yes. < 1316692936 528932 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fuse4bsd.creo.hu/ http://www.netbsd.org/docs/puffs/ "FUSE compatibility was added within pkgsrc, and besides the required infrastructure work a number of FUSE packages were added to pkgsrc in the new "filesystem" category. Example packages that are currently available include: < 1316692936 785648 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1316692950 71862 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : - no cute aminals!!!!!!!!!!!!&^ < 1316692951 552014 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Hurd. < 1316692961 431957 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah yes. < 1316692964 171071 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hitler loved animals! more than people, probably. < 1316692974 722649 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we're better nazis than the nazis, basically. < 1316693146 989463 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the perfect nazi: kills everyone else for not being perfect. then kills emself for having no friends. < 1316693191 476894 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you discover the game's true plot < 1316693213 656636 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a nose for perfection. < 1316693224 717586 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a coincidence. i have a nose. < 1316693360 671726 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not convinced browsing this makes me a better person. < 1316693391 377832 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you don't read it, how will you ever find the evidence to ban me with < 1316693892 453493 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is important for children to be able to play games so they don't grow up into serial killers. oh wait... < 1316693927 847513 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1316694634 109069 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i somehow think that the theory that tolkien's works were really written by william shakespeare has not got much exposition before. < 1316694706 391078 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316694723 984190 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1316694730 930089 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should repeat that. < 1316694741 622515 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i somehow think that the theory that tolkien's works were really written by william shakespeare has not got much exposition before. < 1316694756 483889 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1316694821 258531 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I found someone who's heard of elliott_ < 1316694824 428398 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, our elliott_ < 1316694832 806484 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the elliott_ who kicked my friend in the fac < 1316694833 978486 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1316694841 853115 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is probably not the same elliott_ < 1316694848 171220 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's hope so. < 1316694879 664735 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He said "Elliott's weirder than you. Somehow." < 1316694891 411037 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1316694910 509276 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense a plan doomed to failure < 1316694915 844055 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They went to the same first school for a bit, apparently < 1316694951 96596 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1316694981 573021 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before elliott_ switched < 1316694986 134298 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To a different school < 1316695188 128463 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1316695224 718513 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there is nowhere near enough editing of the wiki ATM < 1316695288 469075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: the simple solution to that is to stop banning spambots < 1316695363 723323 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh and it seems iwc didn't stop. :) < 1316695388 348528 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1316695401 926043 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you surprised? < 1316695419 403358 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not immensely < 1316695425 215094 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1316695846 398745 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 . < 1316697148 980426 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1316697151 210465 :variable!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: I found 1 in /dev/zero < 1316697286 641126 :variable-!variable@gateway/shell/trekweb.org/x-xzcrsccxbzxhiofm QUIT :Excess Flood < 1316697419 434228 :variable!variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1316698206 25313 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1316698767 565740 :CakeProphet!~adam@h234.53.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316698768 846503 :CakeProphet!~adam@h234.53.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1316698768 864445 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1316698874 332461 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1316699283 130646 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316700444 462112 :variable!variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Excess Flood < 1316700600 424897 :variable!variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1316700681 892928 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow there are so many files in this google n-gram data that are just... numbers. < 1316700687 977135 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316700702 534588 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :millions of number entries. < 1316700711 215806 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and currency entries. < 1316701666 425416 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly they have scanned some function tables. < 1316701695 503464 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I mentioned my trigonometric function table book here? I think I have mentioned my trigonometric function table book here. < 1316701709 592792 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the one that was donated by the good peoples of the US of A. < 1316701718 611608 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have hacovercosine? < 1316701808 666401 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This book has been presented to Finland by the Government of the United States of America, under Public Law 265, 81st Congress, as an expression of the friendship and good will which the people of the United States hold for the people of Finland." < 1316701818 81795 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1316701821 394656 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe not. < 1316701858 173263 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's titled "Seven-place values of trigonometric functions". < 1316701875 522463 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I often think about my deep affinity with the Finnish people. < 1316701896 739114 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose everyone in your country does. < 1316701904 49866 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a thing with you people. < 1316702036 408813 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Finland Pays Its Debts and Gets Books in Return: ASLA Grants to the Finnish Academic Libraries, 1950-1967; In 1949 the U.S. Congress passed a law (P.L. 81-265) that transformed Finnish payments on the loans acquired from the United States after World War I into a fund. Out of the fund, grants for travel in the United States were given to Finnish researchers and specialists. Finnish institutions of higher education were given grants in order to acquire American < 1316702036 426728 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : scientific and scholarly books as well as technical equipment." < 1316702069 475303 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it for I think 2 eur from the "we want to get rid of this stuff" sale of the university library. < 1316702132 837627 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also bought the book about how to (mechanically; without real understanding) convert ALGOL-60 programs to FORTRAN-II/IV programs. It has lots of details on different computers; word sizes and that sort of stuff. < 1316702144 992027 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1316702565 330130 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316702687 997691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316702787 238073 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: needs moar SICP < 1316703442 511034 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316703594 193621 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1316703594 662085 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what I should do with these 1.2 gigs of O'Reily books. < 1316703600 160092 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :read them? < 1316703601 721356 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely not... < 1316704001 795819 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316704110 58243 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably just keep them as reference material. < 1316704305 160359 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: FireFly < 1316704975 754823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1316704982 985778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reagan.com/emailintro.html < 1316705057 413396 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow software process models sure are bullshit. < 1316705058 177456 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$40 a year for email? < 1316705059 522284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1316705063 354149 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am literally learning about nothing. < 1316705089 925746 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are staring at charts of imaginary things and talking about imaginary imaginariness. < 1316705228 804320 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 40/12 < 1316705229 862669 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.3333333333333335 < 1316705270 765171 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :God Bless Ronald Reagan America < 1316705277 871056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, but it's for conservatives, so they'll either be rich, or act as if they're rich in every situation despite not being rich. < 1316705305 366575 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really not very much money... but it is for email. < 1316705370 277626 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :money better invested in sour punch straws. < 1316705996 771429 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316706173 526093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy better invested in sour punch straws < 1316706207 571646 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1316706372 600777 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should get a blog < 1316706379 74446 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can write about all the boring stuff I do. < 1316706389 548074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that was #esoteric < 1316706395 334914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~SICKKEK BURNENES~ < 1316706400 179737 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOEP < 1316706410 92145 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is where I go to SUFFER. < 1316706419 565740 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also talk about computer science. < 1316706434 565067 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because apparently all of the people in my life know nothing about that. < 1316706460 13130 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the science of how to fix my computer < 1316706475 128489 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I signed up for an open university course today < 1316706478 342591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's electronic engineering < 1316706481 395977 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: 1) replace all hardware components 2) install linux < 1316706482 682697 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed < 1316706484 405203 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :works every time. < 1316706484 895158 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Linux: an introduction" < 1316706491 470856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: oh ear < 1316706492 971329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1316706493 676126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear < 1316706496 632588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear deer ear < 1316706497 18147 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, is it MST 432 computerfixing. < 1316706497 846238 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs a course to introduce linux? < 1316706512 424789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : monqy: that's electronic engineering < 1316706517 421543 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(MS and MST are the only OU prefixes I know.) < 1316706519 907972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that may be a slightly more involved computer-fixing than most people require < 1316706520 76387 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no one, everyone is a linux nerd in the entire world. < 1316706520 496715 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :all < 1316706526 160017 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316706531 880576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, right, I assumed he meant hardware < 1316706543 474755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's a software problem, "broken" isn't the word I'd typically use < 1316706546 907782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Have you tried turning it off and on again?" "Oh, that worked. Thanks." "Thank god I got that EE degree." < 1316706580 558128 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so last night I was moving a bunch of files < 1316706593 496887 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was making my computer annoyingly laggy < 1316706599 798578 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I set the nice level of mv to like... 16 I think. < 1316706606 714810 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316706619 708714 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and suddenly a bash process began using all of my CPU cycles, at which point my computer abruptly cut off. < 1316706626 870360 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that about? < 1316706644 626894 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why you should take linux an introduction < 1316706649 883605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1316706653 598166 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I realize 16 is an extreme nice level. < 1316706659 188938 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't think it would crash my computer... < 1316706689 638725 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO NICE ALLOWED < 1316706694 97492 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :LINUX IS MEAN. :((( < 1316706712 432186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that reminds me of the joke, "$famousperson found someone turning a computer off and on again to try to fix a problem, but it wasn't working. He said 'you can't fix a problem by turning a computer off and on again without understanding what is wrong with it'. Then he turned the computer off and on again, and the computer worked." < 1316706728 430021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: what sort of crash? kernel panic? computer turning off? < 1316706734 929265 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer turned off < 1316706736 212979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's a rubbish joke, it's much better as the original koan < 1316706736 452766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally, when a computer abruptly turns off it's because it overheated < 1316706739 924865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: indeed < 1316706744 675810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't remember the original koan exactly < 1316706746 268737 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in like hard cutoff. < 1316706747 291113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A novice was trying to fix a broken Lisp machine by turning the power off and on. < 1316706747 498393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knight, seeing what the student was doing, spoke sternly: "You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong." < 1316706747 516397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knight turned the machine off and on. < 1316706747 516557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The machine worked. < 1316706834 361745 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well there was a bash process at 400% CPU < 1316706838 12426 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right before it turned off. < 1316706850 563024 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I merely assumed it had something to do with adjusting the nice level of mv. < 1316706860 340258 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as that's when it happened. < 1316706863 574252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would explain why the computer would be heating up, if had heating issues < 1316706872 472690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as full CPU usage tends to make a CPU hotter < 1316706879 136626 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> I would imagine so. < 1316706889 911193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, wait why are you doing that? < 1316706891 927116 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a very short amount of time. < 1316706892 399263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you'd expect your CPU to be running at maximum whenever it had a reason to do so < 1316706894 664836 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few seconds. < 1316706901 187522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice just controls what processes get priority < 1316706901 501327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, my issue got fixed < 1316706915 493134 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: my CPU almost never runs at max < 1316706919 503603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but each CPU should be running at 100% all the time the computer needs to make calculations, or you're just being slow for no reason < 1316706932 161550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only reason a CPU shouldn't be running at max is that you have no CPU-bound processes < 1316706932 662231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you're in the 90s... < 1316706946 44071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITT: Power usage, fan speed, battery life :P < 1316706950 289675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: quite a few people seem to have a fear of processes using 100% CPU < 1316706952 223931 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: The university bookshop sold SICPs at 5 eur/piece when our "introduction to programming" course switched from Scheme to Python/Java/whatever, and it was no longer a course book. < 1316706965 302056 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wow nice. < 1316706972 350608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you buy it? did you already own it? < 1316706973 836660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They usually slow the rest of the system down because Unix. < 1316706976 433143 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except, it's completely free online. < 1316706983 54203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically the user interface. < 1316706994 298243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, it's a matter of task prioritisation < 1316706998 735653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the user interface doesn't normally run at RT prio < 1316707000 846062 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: School reccomended I take one < 1316707003 346846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably it /should/, but it doesn't < 1316707004 586045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It should. < 1316707005 468040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1316707011 394606 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose mv is IO-bound and not CPU-bound, it was taking about 25% of max. < 1316707023 231765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, not responding to the user is pretty much the worst UI crime you can commit. < 1316707027 111183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, mv is about as IO-bound as you can get < 1316707038 814327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose no interface is truly unresponsive; it'll always respond properly to pulling the power cable. < 1316707039 875319 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also at the same time I was decompressing roughly 20 gbs of zip files. < 1316707045 899397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I prefer processes to be honest about whether they're frozen or not < 1316707049 48819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'd say cp is more IO-bound than mv < 1316707053 944385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv is more syscall-bound, on the same device < 1316707054 435475 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was still only like 80% usage. < 1316707057 615812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps < 1316707064 758983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, ...why? < 1316707072 685600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what does that have to do with UI priority? < 1316707091 42944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it depends on what you define as the UI < 1316707099 917089 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my laptop is sitting on my bed so the fan is partially obstructed. it would make sense that it overheated abruptly. < 1316707108 902044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even currently-modern OSes are pretty good at always having the mouse pointer move, for instance < 1316707111 690668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you move the moues < 1316707113 172854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mouse < 1316707121 653856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it can't click on anything and have it respond, that's useless < 1316707122 507950 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a side vent as well so it's not like the cooling system is completely obstructed. < 1316707129 419217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That certainly doesn't hold true for me < 1316707146 477112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm used to the days of Windows crashing so hard that nothing but the mouse pointer worked < 1316707149 878303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can guarantee on roughly nothing working if the system is taxed enough. < 1316707159 615495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often it's too hung to even switch to a VT. < 1316707252 109920 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you think the nice value had anything to do with the bash process suddenly skyrocketing in CPU usage or perhaps it was a coincidence. < 1316707273 887733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was irrelevant < 1316707287 627731 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :still I have no idea what the bash process was doing then... < 1316707289 324696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sometimes I can switch to a VT just fine after alt-sysrq-R, but not before < 1316707293 365377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha < 1316707295 428977 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it occured immediately after changing the priority. < 1316707295 846722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's nothing to do with being hung, but rather being in an invalid state < 1316707298 609376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a Sysrq key < 1316707305 809707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you not have a sysrq key? < 1316707307 813972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mac? < 1316707308 355723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptop < 1316707314 497359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mac, yeah :P < 1316707315 345236 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I don't have one either. < 1316707316 404744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every laptop I've ever used had some way to type sysrq < 1316707320 991676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this laptop has a physical sysrq key < 1316707324 862210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was some crazy combo on the one before < 1316707332 739296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely it has a physical print screen key. < 1316707332 864978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fn-insert or something < 1316707338 764515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody uses SysRq :P < 1316707339 505539 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: your guess is as good as mine < 1316707340 546904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it has PRTSC SYSRQ written on it < 1316707348 388617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the SYSRQ is arguably slightly more prominent < 1316707360 405736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRTSC. Really. < 1316707361 837029 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1316707363 191750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, alt-sysrq-k is the only method I have of logging out on this system < 1316707373 230735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, why < 1316707387 750050 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316707398 983125 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually have no idea what sysrq does... < 1316707402 773066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because I removed the logout widget to save the screen corner < 1316707415 924608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe in Fitts' Law much like you do < 1316707429 750521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm only actually using two screen corners because of a shortage of things to put on the other two < 1316707458 396593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've started to see Fitts' law as more of an argument for the inefficiency of mice in general than for their efficiency in special cases (not that I think the traditional command-line interface is much more productive on its own) < 1316707464 676389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, on the one hand, corners are really easy to access < 1316707472 70312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, almost all locations on the screen are difficult to < 1316707477 767398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(access) < 1316707489 719825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with you, there < 1316707511 647986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend not to use mice for anything much other than web brosing < 1316707513 683932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*browsing < 1316707528 622815 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer should have some fancy interface that tracks my eye movements. < 1316707531 850655 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the mouse. < 1316707533 717436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I make sure I have my taskbar in a consistent order, I mostly use alt-tab to change windows < 1316707543 632601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: it exists < 1316707545 294329 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: it exists, but clicking is frustrating with that < 1316707552 320374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rather painful, though, which is why only disabled people tend to use it < 1316707557 248874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :painful in the annoying sense < 1316707600 27341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's your opinion on dwell-click? < 1316707608 99414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea that you can click a mouse by moving it to a stop from a particular direction < 1316707613 610875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to avoid clicking, you move it to a stop from the other direction < 1316707613 837167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it irritates me :P < 1316707617 314952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that says little < 1316707624 90139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most things irritate you < 1316707624 676791 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no in the painful sense? no scary cables that you have to inject in your brain? < 1316707627 506171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think your mouse being a ticking time bomb unless you constantly move it around is a bad idea in general, though < 1316707628 46175 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*not < 1316707634 717976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried it? I haven't < 1316707648 714720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: it just uses a webcam < 1316707652 234023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have a higher tolerance to pain than many people; I even got decent at playing Enigma with a touchpad < 1316707655 571101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there's a site that does it :-) < 1316707655 846023 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1316707656 862466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(flash) < 1316707659 923020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :higher tolerance to bad UI pain, I mean < 1316707663 219994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yells at you if you click < 1316707677 561996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was on the ~~social networking~~ sites a few years ago < 1316707679 634802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find I'm inconsistent about whether I tap-click or button-click < 1316707682 755956 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :mice are good. mice are fine. mice + shell = sufficient < 1316707683 989762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1316707691 177043 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what is Enigma? < 1316707693 6237 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mice suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck < 1316707695 171023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: a game < 1316707700 815239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there are several games with that name < 1316707702 455799 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm enigma., been ages since i've played that < 1316707705 896287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a riddle < 1316707709 225728 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :touch screen is a minor improvement to a mouse perhaps. < 1316707710 508558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one I'm thinking of is http://enigma-game.org < 1316707715 545602 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't imagine it with a atouchpade though < 1316707719 237706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the worst trailer of anything ever, it's so bad it's hilarious to watch < 1316707726 106945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can play anything with a touchpad, it just makes you more hardcore < 1316707726 404245 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I was thinking of that one too < 1316707730 111683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: playing Enigma with a touchscreen would be basically impossible < 1316707735 152646 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you tell me a short description? i cannot open the web page < 1316707737 744925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works much better with a tilt sensor than touchscreen < 1316707740 374013 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you copypaste from there. < 1316707742 33925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nongnu.org/enigma/index.html < 1316707748 716084 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh I was kind of not in that thread of discussion. < 1316707754 251998 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Enigma one. < 1316707764 747789 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just discussing physical interfaces still. < 1316707773 125732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: you control a marble by accelerating it with your mouse; you have to solve puzzles, mostly by colliding your marble into things that interact with the puzzles < 1316707781 208213 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that! < 1316707781 267951 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes gaming + touchscreen = smudgey screen < 1316707783 402808 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember it < 1316707787 196023 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun. < 1316707796 685041 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god this movie clips thing < 1316707805 283704 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I already owned it; didn't buy a second copy, ineiros bought a couple (5?) though to give to people. < 1316707817 709471 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is beautiful < 1316707828 259833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: It's art. < 1316707828 827818 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love this loud encoding fuck ups in this class recording < 1316707843 193474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :enigma has different floors ! < 1316707845 933121 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it has the worst trailer of anything ever, it's so bad it's hilarious to watch < 1316707849 957306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you're talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9l26Y-mBk right < 1316707850 583369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1316707851 548090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the good one < 1316707851 644462 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, how awful is the trailer/ < 1316707851 938772 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-soft professor mumble- -mumblemumble- EEEEEEEERK -mumblemumble- EERK" < 1316707856 48571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh no they're making a trailer two < 1316707857 107860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9l26Y-mBk < 1316707858 695841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: this awful < 1316707867 582413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sit through all 9 minutes to win a prize (the prize is giving up on life) < 1316707870 630052 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god this is amazing. < 1316707873 185261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's the one I'm talking about, thanks for digging up the link before I did < 1316707889 866190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or meditate < 1316707890 947093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the holes < 1316707901 219650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that game is really really bad at advertising < 1316707904 754261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tutorial < 1316707905 640750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :example < 1316707917 159298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the tutorial doesn't really fill people with confidence < 1316707919 796324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :move < 1316707920 695569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blocks < 1316707921 225080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316707922 109149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1316707922 897196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh < 1316707926 368123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i musnt't quote every line from this < 1316707927 802531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's so good < 1316707940 509415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Move block! < 1316707944 36415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For great justice! < 1316707947 995456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do the people behind this actually think it's good btw < 1316707955 989547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1316707963 598406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beware of unfriendly actors... i met an unfriendly actor once < 1316707963 706593 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the death stones < 1316707965 693652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is yes, because they wouldn't be promoting it so heavily otherwise < 1316707965 727564 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfriendly actors! < 1316707966 735161 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1316707967 875635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was in a movie but he was mean :( < 1316707983 206084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the death stones... < 1316707990 847298 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1316707992 694272 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1316707993 537838 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1316708001 224472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the blocks well … < 1316708011 624553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet bro and hella enigma < 1316708017 668694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1316708017 844679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316708018 44670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316708019 255296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1316708019 325253 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellanigma. < 1316708019 609430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1316708021 857202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god it actually < 1316708022 914121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just said that < 1316708025 934021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1316708026 31506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually just said "help" < 1316708029 44034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a line of its own :') < 1316708055 41551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so gloriously awful. < 1316708058 791543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this chess example is very foreboding, musicwise < 1316708067 612895 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :enigma includes < 1316708067 951251 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316708073 846289 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1316708075 356780 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :laser games < 1316708085 483336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just noticed that "have you seen the death stones" comes up on a screen with no death stones < 1316708091 347545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think they're just < 1316708092 622542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminding you < 1316708095 457945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the screen like a minute prior < 1316708098 371806 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was < 1316708099 715284 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :laser < 1316708100 218306 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :games < 1316708101 55900 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1316708102 363450 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this dance is very unpalatable, science-wise. < 1316708102 569224 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1316708102 664144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh hey, there were death stones there... pls rewind" < 1316708102 857002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing has new depths of brilliance every time I watch it < 1316708114 114220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some ways, this is the best possible trailer < 1316708131 770965 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :portal chess is the best game < 1316708139 61710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man this level looks hard < 1316708143 31960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to try to reah the other side < 1316708145 918655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm happy with the side god gave me < 1316708146 44517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which one? < 1316708151 149411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: four minutes fifty seconds in < 1316708158 75983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunch of disappearing/spiralling platforms < 1316708164 299484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't got there yet, I'll tell you my opinion when I get there < 1316708173 449137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you find the message < 1316708178 184429 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: shame you're not playing portal chess then you could just drump through your knight's nose. < 1316708180 810714 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1316708193 398891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how it picked up a bunch of money < 1316708195 122815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :went into the next room < 1316708198 92348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just dropped it for no reason < 1316708206 860008 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to this maze! ... < 1316708207 691765 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome < 1316708210 250947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chess example is just there because people used to have no idea how to operate chess stones, IIRC < 1316708231 180501 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stopped being onscrieen before i could transcribe it < 1316708231 345393 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a temple full of gold! < 1316708234 198120 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this so great < 1316708251 233004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the best possible thing we could all do together for 9 minutes < 1316708264 177257 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no an unfriendl actor < 1316708279 509000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how enigma water looks nothing like water < 1316708286 276574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just looks like blue floor < 1316708289 546677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like puzzles? < 1316708291 961134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.puzzles puzzles.. < 1316708320 128104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh right, I reached the level you were talking about, it's pretty hard, although not the hardest level in the set of all levels similar to it < 1316708344 920259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who edited this thing did they think we cared about this section of gameplay minutiae < 1316708349 914387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would have any idea what's going on < 1316708363 263649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :being < 1316708363 615833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lost < 1316708364 763787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Enigma < 1316708365 475012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Space < 1316708366 15113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316708366 359230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1316708373 883864 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1316708387 592312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can't explain it, so don't ask me to < 1316708405 249813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what logo is that < 1316708406 827989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like < 1316708407 998459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the un logo < 1316708408 555866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1316708409 94202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1316708412 459149 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANASIDHAISUDHQWIEUHASIUDHQWEIUHASOPAPQPWOEOWPEPWPESODJGFKDKDSKF < 1316708413 779388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thomas bernhardt why < 1316708424 181439 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi CakeProphet < 1316708433 840711 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wacro? < 1316708436 569652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :towards the end, they're just showing off some of the highest-rated levels, and completely missing the reasons /why/ they're highest-rated < 1316708437 56792 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :xxxxtomasxxburnxxheartxxxx < 1316708453 836637 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: beautiful < 1316708474 623151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXcpU9RNxuc < 1316708475 113717 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching magic moments of enigma < 1316708476 220041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :engrossing < 1316708482 601187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic moments is considerably better than the trailer < 1316708486 913371 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :( < 1316708500 774436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you click links nowadays, i'd like your opinion of that linked level < 1316708510 341530 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :portal chess is considerably better than all games. < 1316708516 527627 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best at game. < 1316708519 805617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not clicking that, but only because it'd open in Firefox, which doesn't have Flash added < 1316708523 91839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like chortal pess :/ < 1316708524 888423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll open it in a browser that does have Flash support < 1316708539 797448 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic moments has good music < 1316708541 927459 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott? more like liotioeltot < 1316708544 682050 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only the trailer had this music < 1316708545 674272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "bowling", it's a stupid annoying luck-based level < 1316708555 973265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it < 1316708574 430922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a bayou by you < 1316708575 801522 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316708577 295018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one also has a funny playthrough < 1316708584 54924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've solved that one < 1316708587 974589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa2_TpYJ_Ug < 1316708589 172171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :six seconds :P < 1316708610 627031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, maybe I have < 1316708614 577749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not that fast < 1316708627 87544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1316708627 958387 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there a scantily-clad anime girl in the suggestions thing at the end < 1316708628 654333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alain Busser has a tendency to make huge, artistic levels that are quite easy once you know the solutions < 1316708632 464388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, excessively mathematical ones < 1316708643 502676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That is the true spirit of Enigma. < 1316708657 485265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truspirenigmat. < 1316708661 818063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, it's German. < 1316708682 402409 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy baby < 1316708683 379908 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's this magic moments video? < 1316708686 372586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Engima is indeed originally German < 1316708692 901165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So is truspirenigmat. < 1316708700 563237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's translated into a lot of langauges < 1316708702 338120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*languages < 1316708704 767490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite a German game, Enigma. Not quite sure why I say this. < 1316708707 835562 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umbOX3DwxeQ magic moments < 1316708713 959437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel so honoured having text strings I wrote translated into other languages < 1316708718 712953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1316708727 332212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a french translation of something in one of my levels, and bask in it < 1316708729 794792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they translate it into non-ais english < 1316708740 607518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"original string had too many nested parentheses and overflowed enigma's string buffer" < 1316708746 78525 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want enigma in zzo english < 1316708749 750623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they even translated the original English into non-ais English < 1316708760 202634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it would be too much < 1316708761 586277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much < 1316708762 59699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by adding spaces before punctuation marks other than full stops < 1316708775 970540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's French english :P < 1316708788 720813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one level I wrote is called "Choices, choices ..." < 1316708794 812883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a ... not a … < 1316708803 141182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not completely sure, I find them hard to tell apart < 1316708881 196470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the addition of "rhythm of space" at the end of the trailer was just trolling, as the level isn't actually /in/ the released version of Enigma < 1316708903 528748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's a really trollish level, it's just a really really big maze with lots of backtracking and items and deathtraps < 1316708911 755496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like big levels that are easy to die in / make unwinnable < 1316708928 652508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote flip a coin < 1316708930 560217 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :610) game where you flip a coin but it's really really big < 1316708932 186398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enigma needs that < 1316708946 533150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless such deaths/unwins are always the player's fault and the player has enough information to work it out in advance < 1316708964 25029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's what I did with "Choices, choices ..." where you get to see the entire level before you start playing, and there's basically no hidden information) < 1316708986 136966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how's the Enigma AI scene < 1316708990 341189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the Lua stuff kinda messes with that < 1316708994 797313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it exists < 1316709000 97529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should < 1316709007 134712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quite a lot of levels don't need custom Lua < 1316709017 823085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I avoid it in my levels where I can and still meet the concept of the level < 1316709059 359139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes dynamic scripting is unavoidable, but I hope to avoid it where possible < 1316709075 879636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I use Lua to /generate/ the levels quite a lot, so that a level isn't the same every time, but that's different as everything still acts like you'd expect it to) < 1316709461 425149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know a good way to do a human-consumable diff of binary files? < 1316709488 838798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: od then diff works if the difference is a multiple-of-n bytes long (where n is the line width) < 1316709502 415411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably nit < 1316709503 109443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1316709509 729341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer it be agnostic to such "relocations" < 1316709512 667332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is for human debugging < 1316709556 76984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, someone came up with a known-plaintext attack against SSL and TLS a couple of days ago, and I only found a reference to the story today < 1316709583 472981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently known-plaintext is generally possible to pull off atm, even though it's not the easiest sort of attack to manage < 1316709601 780408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1316709623 989733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, SUA is deprecated < 1316709661 226730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently the usual trick is an XSS-like thing that injects a huge amount of plaintext) < 1316709707 488603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously, human-readable binary diff? anyone? no? < 1316709733 263085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about this: express both binaries as images, diff by eye < 1316709733 978164 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) translate binaries to human-readable format 2) apply diff < 1316709752 836330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that if binary = executable, disassemble + diff might work < 1316709775 242538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Images aren't relocation-insensitive < 1316709775 956912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1316709777 407708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if one file is < 1316709779 720237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A B C D E F G H < 1316709780 901473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other is < 1316709783 844002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A B C F G H < 1316709785 779514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want it to look like < 1316709795 960080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A B C D E F G H < 1316709795 977964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A B C F G H < 1316709796 971026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1316709802 32140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it "re-synchronises" < 1316709812 148975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, getting output in that format seems rather harder < 1316709813 741276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that e.g. a missing field doesn't cause cascading diff errors < 1316709814 796885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1316709882 535314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I mean, with visual diffing, you'd see it as a translation in the pixels of an image after a certain point, but not before < 1316709896 646861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to admit the exact use-case? someone might have a better idea < 1316709899 490219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, but that's still hard to diff < 1316709907 437485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, my serialisation of packets is wrong < 1316709909 52972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or my deserialisation < 1316709909 751235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1316709913 74071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse | unparse =/= id < 1316709917 671540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I want to see where my errors are < 1316709925 730290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the thing I love about this channel is that "how can I do X using Y?" isn't answered "don't use Y" but "that seems weird, here's the best way I can think of..." < 1316709927 226713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1316709932 928323 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1316709933 483754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse | print-readable produces very reasonable output and it's gone through many debugging cycles < 1316709937 754759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but serialisation hasn't been tested at all < 1316709940 842893 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "Came up with -- a couple of days ago" -- the known-IV weakness has been known since 2004, and was fixed in TLS 1.1 in 2006. < 1316709942 341076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not sure where to start < 1316709946 375147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're serialising to a binary format? < 1316709951 344441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1316709954 48591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, maybe people actually found a way to exploit it < 1316709957 749304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the smallest packet dump I can get is like ten kilobytes < 1316709962 263311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's what caused the stories to start < 1316709976 253833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse is a filter from text to binary? < 1316709987 895639 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://eprint.iacr.org/2004/111.pdf from 2004 describes a practical way to exploit it, using a browser plugin; it's very likely to be pretty much exactly like the currently hyped thing. < 1316710017 405328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, parse is binary to memory-format < 1316710026 494143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unparse is memory-to-serialisation < 1316710042 989346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1316710054 361912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the input itself is binary, and the output of unparse is meant to be the same binary format < 1316710062 483039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the file you get is different, and you're not sure how < 1316710065 811753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1316710071 543654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm pretty sure the parse type is right < 1316710085 409313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably best to start off by seeing how many bytes are different, I think < 1316710089 693245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and whether it's substitution/insertion/deletion < 1316710099 159158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :od with a width of 1 and diff would work for that, I think < 1316710135 701210 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, convert it into 1s and 0s and then use normal diff. < 1316710142 330893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, the US government has recently made it illegal to patent tax loopholes < 1316710150 555044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly impossible < 1316710162 317956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: diff is line-based < 1316710162 455826 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also (to pick some nits) not exactly a known-plaintext attack. If anything, it could be sort-of called a chosen-plaintext attack. < 1316710169 610430 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfft. < 1316710179 482059 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put each byte on its own line. < 1316710183 83529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what we really need is a diff that works on entirely freeform data, not line-based. < 1316710186 901407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And does that resynchronisation. < 1316710193 384818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can just do it on one-line hexdumps. < 1316710202 546032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And reformat the output to have a nice number of columns. < 1316710220 11357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Put each byte on its own line. <-- what I was saying < 1316710232 929537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, good point < 1316710236 971877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even harder than known-plaintext < 1316710266 819913 :ineiros!~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think I bought more than 5 SICPs, actually; since I still have several. I think I've given at least one as a gift, and sold 3. < 1316710320 315220 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: Have you made any money with your SICP speculation? < 1316710324 105895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably learn how to use od instead of hexdump. < 1316710337 649292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm tempted to write that free-form diff even though I'm sure it exists. < 1316710358 491243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :od has a reasonably unintuitive options syntax < 1316710363 167809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep checking the manpage whenever I use it < 1316710411 454796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's POSIX for you. < 1316710414 522236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jpfo.org/ < 1316710415 688448 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... < 1316710431 231760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1316710456 572665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this uh < 1316710458 163753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a thing < 1316710464 684841 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gun Control Kills Kids! < 1316710505 461314 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this for real < 1316710509 305014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"antis - mental problem?" < 1316710514 414599 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jpfo.org/images07/buster-350-pre-png-aliased.gif < 1316710521 160790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this is just like the most bad thing I don't think we even have anything to discuss about this < 1316710525 455250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :next topic < 1316710541 648749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does od have an equivalent to hexdump's -C? < 1316710546 745766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't look like it < 1316710551 425467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-C being "give me reasonable output" :-P < 1316710564 916762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, od can do floats. < 1316710574 65495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "reasonable"? < 1316710593 382285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-t x1z is what duplicates most hexdump programs I've seen < 1316710617 475601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, thanks < 1316710622 351745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0113400 a0 59 7f 41 d5 99 93 01 0d 40 72 af 8d 8b a1 fd >.Y.A.....@r.....< < 1316710622 579997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0113420 9e 40 00 00 40 44 ec af c5 ce 90 >.@EO\)...@D.....< < 1316710622 756763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0116700 12 01 0b 40 72 b6 7d 5b b1 b7 f0 40 44 80 00 00 >...@r.}[...@D...< < 1316710624 750027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something went wrong there... < 1316710631 772666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(view in monospace) < 1316710632 655800 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how to make dwarf fortress use a bigger font? < 1316710655 42885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :super-mousewheelup? < 1316710657 438341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: -w 1 seems /enlarge/ the number of bytes per line... < 1316710664 917217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, it's actually scroll wheel up < 1316710669 681930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you were almost right < 1316710676 129534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1316710684 753772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :super-mousewheelup is my keybinding for telling the WM to zoom in < 1316710688 844362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I just needed to omit the space between flag and argument, sigh < 1316710693 411681 :ineiros!~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think I paid 20€ for my own copy, and it may be that I asked 20 € for the copies I sold, so I guess that I'm at least even. < 1316710711 5379 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think that doesn't work < 1316710723 985015 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Adding a z suffix to any type displays printable characters at the end of each output line." <- whoa, I didn't know it did that. < 1316710729 874318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: well, you're probably using a different compositor to me < 1316710733 195963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is cheater actually disregarding my correct answer just because it's from me < 1316710747 829637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: elliott suggested mousewheelup without super, I don't know if it works or not < 1316710758 171759 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a correct answer from him? < 1316710762 665106 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me read the scrollback < 1316710770 245404 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately the "z" in od is not in POSIX od. < 1316710770 783038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, diff -y is cool < 1316710772 989165 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that actually needs announcement < 1316710804 539442 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, his answer was not correct < 1316710807 108122 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just a troll < 1316710810 995730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1316710818 374405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adjusts his dwarf fortress font size a bit < 1316710823 674161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i so mad < 1316710835 928139 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mouse wheel up makes it smaller, mouse wheel down cannot make it any bigger than it is already < 1316710869 392713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then one character should fill about a fifth of your screen so I'd say it's big enough < 1316710918 831322 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1316710962 255095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks, I think this will let me pinpoint the solution < 1316710968 425195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff -y --suppress-common-lines is great < 1316710981 725753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does --suppress-common-lines do? or -y, for that matter? < 1316710994 3091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-y is side-by-side view < 1316710997 980106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :--suppress-common-lines does what it says on the tin < 1316711002 839601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, fair enough < 1316711010 467833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure why it's in diff, but oh well < 1316711014 746439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the context options interact with that in any way? < 1316711018 108267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1316711101 592483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now what I really need is this annotated with the pretty parsed versions of the packets :) < 1316711106 203525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should just teach Wireshark the Minecraft protocol < 1316711119 729380 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mchosting again? < 1316711156 779104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, I'm just converting the test program to iterIO and checking that my serialisation... you know, works. < 1316711159 794939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems the answer is "almost". < 1316711185 510722 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.highprogrammer.com/alan/games/video/minecraft/minecraft-dissector.html "Minecraft Dissector for WireShark" < 1316711189 108779 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably: sucks. < 1316711195 108927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm going to try that. < 1316711196 318436 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually that sort of things tend to. < 1316711209 835577 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'m using it to develop a Perl library (Minecraft::Client) for speaking the Minecraft protocol. It's forked from Scott Brooks's dissector. Scott provided a great starting point, but it hadn't been updated to the Beta." < 1316711535 666835 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't really see how it would be statistically likely for the n-grams to generate an existing word. < 1316711547 987439 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as each word only contributes one to the frequency of each of its n-grams. < 1316711977 417437 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lotrfanshop.com/lotrshop/navel-rings.asp < 1316711979 452467 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.................... < 1316711987 337585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Artist's conception of soul joining the fertilized egg at conception." --Conservapedia caption < 1316712026 709452 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what page? < 1316712032 662167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conservapedia.com/Human_reproduction < 1316712037 663266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spiritual aspects section is best. < 1316712051 865007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Humans are not able to reproduce alone by budding, parthenogenesis, or self-cloning as some species are capable of." < 1316712053 357354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :l a m e < 1316712104 384638 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that is the best artist's conception. < 1316712168 39134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would make a good album cover. < 1316712209 930231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/sdarrin/My-Lego-Sets/7251.jpg < 1316712215 813424 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god that expression. < 1316712244 305749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you even doing. < 1316712282 912238 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help its tv tropes < 1316712333 371355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it turns out that this od diff method is great for getting an initial lead but useless for going further than that :D < 1316712344 920609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds about right < 1316712355 19226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm not sure where to go next, really < 1316712357 914034 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What have you broken this time? < 1316712445 185158 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs thou shalt not < 1316712465 670962 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... ... ... < 1316712467 146391 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.15122 < 1316712480 749653 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thou shalt not be impatient with thy logs. < 1316712486 295049 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1316712525 363789 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However, there has never been any evidence presented that the soul can enter the body at any time later than conception." lololol < 1316712529 697714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mchost's serialisation. < 1316712544 122538 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not de- this time? < 1316712557 65271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: As opposed to all the evidence presented that the soul can enter the body at conception :P < 1316712574 84864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah, I think de- has been pretty thoroughly tested by this point. < 1316712581 440354 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: EXTENSIVE LITERATURE SUGGESTS < 1316712585 489816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to , which hasn't been tested at all. < 1316712588 511288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Prefix words: problematic.) < 1316712598 12864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: -? < 1316712602 282602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ? < 1316712604 556741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that would wokr < 1316712604 644417 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The ultimate act of intimacy serves to unite the male and female gametes, the sperm and egg, respectively." // this is pretty great too < 1316712605 262895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :work < 1316712616 761698 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure sounds ultimately intimate, dunnit. < 1316712956 785239 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`logurl 2006-08-08 < 1316712958 547517 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2006-08-08 < 1316712972 575178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :logurl: the best. < 1316712978 177189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I already logurl'd that :P < 1316713009 229590 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, if you did, you did it secretly :P < 1316713118 645478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep :P < 1316713203 241495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't we have applicative-based (de-)serialisation isomorphism combinator things yet again < 1316713302 314935 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talk:Human Reproduction is almost as good as the page. < 1316713335 343154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soul Conception by Human Reproduction < 1316713335 519758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conservapedia.com/images/9/93/Soul_Conception.jpg < 1316713339 320102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out December on Conservative Records < 1316713346 419077 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1316713370 736000 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so I was thinking for functions on discrete signals it would be best to pass the sample rate as an implicit parameter, yes? < 1316713374 613434 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :regarding signal processing in Haskell. < 1316713391 443503 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just as a record field? < 1316713400 214849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implicit parameters are a misfeature and should never be used; nobody at all wants them to stay in the language, and they've been used approximately once. < 1316713412 557540 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DESPERATELY want to shoop that image to make it "crisper" but also shoop in that weird creepy happy face that people like to shoop into things. < 1316713413 260870 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel the implicit parameter would be more convenient though... < 1316713422 93974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no reason to fix the sample rate at a set value; there's no reason it cannot vary within the same set of data. [(Time,a)] where a is the value being sampled captures that perfectly. < 1316713438 324231 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1316713442 368539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is a fixed sample rate, it can be computed from the constant difference between each Time. < 1316713472 122016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I note that the continuous (Time -> a) and discrete [(Time,a)] signal models are exactly the models of Behaviour and Event in FRP. < 1316713489 493458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Which weird creepy happy face? < 1316713491 506119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::awesome:? < 1316713510 758469 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Apparently that's the name for it, according to google :P < 1316713511 262132 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trollface? < 1316713518 658643 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's creepy and happy. < 1316713523 443413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSVO happy. < 1316713526 490165 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also you were saying that there would be no need to convert continuous to discrete or vice versa if differing signal representations shared a common interface < 1316713529 108703 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316713529 310167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Gregor didn't specify "abominable", so... < 1316713532 225334 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm at a loss as to what interface that would be. < 1316713537 894862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conservapedia.com/ADA_(programming_language) ;; they miscapitalised Ada. Burn. < 1316713556 423756 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/awesome-face-epic-smiley <-- this guy < 1316713557 470685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Build them with separate interfaces, find the operations common to both, define laws for them, create typeclass < 1316713558 437911 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is equal in power to Java and is especially popular for programming embedded systems." < 1316713566 483098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just keep it monomorphic if it works. < 1316713575 2364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome-face-epic-smiley <- augh < 1316713590 136019 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Don't looka me :P < 1316713613 231706 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, that on the egg :P < 1316713628 63719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program, and detailed technical commentary, appeared in the paper "Sketch of the Analytical Engine Invented by Charles Babbage"[1] that Ada wrote in 1843. The program itself has been reproduced in the "sidebar" on page 79[2]. It can also be seen in the original paper. First there is a list of the six input and output variables that are used: V1, V2, V3, V21, V22 and V23. And the temporary variables V4 through V13. In modern terminology in a s < 1316713628 241882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trongly typed language such as C++, we would write something like: < 1316713628 260181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : int V1, V2, V3; // inputs < 1316713628 260353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : int V21, V22, V23; // outputs < 1316713630 4741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : int V4, V5, V6, V7, V8, V9, V10, V11, V12, V13; // temps < 1316713633 959706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Conservapedia stop no. < 1316713636 926729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This cannot end well. < 1316713655 99753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(She used the old-fashioned multiply and divide signs "[X sign]" and "[dots over - sign]". These seem quaint by today's standards, but they were the symbols that people used at the time. Neither the 026 keypunch nor the ASCII character set had been invented.) < 1316713662 228111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So old-fashioned, we use them in our schools today. < 1316713680 486962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or has America standardised on the asterisk multiplication symbol and the slash divisor < 1316713680 810578 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We use them until we start doing algebra, that is. < 1316713685 402008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Note "schools". < 1316713693 895751 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conservapedia: the best way to learn how to program? < 1316713731 661365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[conservapedia:Ada Lovelace]] is disappointingly light on THAT WIMMEN CAN'T HAVE DONE PROGRAMMED IT SHE MUST HAVE GOT HER HUSBAND TO DO IT. < 1316713732 222344 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wasn't Ada invented before capital letters? so it would have been written ADA at the time? < 1316713736 707771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*before lowercase letters < 1316713739 748325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Category: Women" < 1316713741 830206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good categorisation. < 1316713764 604879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :) < 1316713768 376460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conservapedia.com/Evolutionary_algorithm < 1316713772 449018 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: on conservapedia America is the best place with the best opinions. < 1316713773 678969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh no. < 1316713773 943435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It delivers what it promises. < 1316713793 626416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evolutionary algorithms can be seen as an experimental test of Darwin's theory of evolution, and their eventual failure can be seen as a refutation of that theory[Citation Needed]. < 1316713794 634389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1316713796 929843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god for integer programming < 1316713802 737296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integerllient design < 1316713861 422522 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many contribute to conservapedia as a parody of conservative opinions. < 1316713887 4621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, as a RationalWiki veteran, I can confirm that most of them do. < 1316713908 778841 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an utterly bizzare passtime < 1316713918 711503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Satire: So WEIRD. < 1316713924 965067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swift. What was WITH that dude? Why did he even write about eating babies. < 1316713930 606425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He should have wrote about the virtues of not eating babies. < 1316713933 684622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be less bizarre. < 1316713989 695386 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: note that spending large amounts of time contributing to a resource of information with a conservative viewpoint entirely for satirical purposes is quite different from satire itself < 1316714005 73288 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was not saying satire is weird. < 1316714197 174280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't Conservapedia famously threaten to sue trolls? < 1316714200 314920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they ever go through with it? < 1316714238 443068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Their "Commandments" state all sorts of threatening legal things if you do bad things. < 1316714245 231441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unproductive activity, such as 90% talk page edits and only 10% quality edits to Conservapedia articles, may result in blocking of the account.[7] See the Guidelines for more detail." < 1316714248 796815 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316714249 254778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metapedians: literally the devil. < 1316714275 559475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll probably end up with their infrastructure suffering < 1316714291 986542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They don't have any infrastructure. < 1316714306 714173 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :dadaopedia is the best of the hypothetical opinionated encyclopedias. < 1316714314 215134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how do they, say, decide what to delete? < 1316714320 447112 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dadapedia? < 1316714336 301574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Is that where everyone is really boring and tries to ~approach art~ by being ~random~? < 1316714349 639423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Fiat, warring, arguments, personal threats, cabals < 1316714354 326319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, just like Wikipedia, but smaller < 1316714367 97748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1316714386 360415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you never heard of Bjorn? < 1316714387 328290 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not quite. < 1316714407 82819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That didn't approach art, that /was/ art. < 1316714412 493733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE BEST ART. < 1316714414 879953 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: dadaism isn't really "lol random" < 1316714466 316465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: It is when filtered through the internet's awful lens that decides to take, like, discordianism, dadaism, and about ten other things, and mix them together into the most boring concept imaginable. < 1316715050 819402 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well yes. < 1316715056 68742 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: uncyclopedia, for that < 1316715218 834387 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-210.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1316715218 852524 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-210.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1316715218 852603 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1316715239 334569 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316715275 185973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : didn't Conservapedia famously threaten to sue trolls? < 1316715279 691167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than that. < 1316715299 693323 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They threatened to report vandals to the FBI and charge them under anti-somethingorother laws. < 1316715330 411090 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1316715337 592031 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1316715612 756675 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316715618 979318 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1316715630 465198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1316715643 757245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1316715912 477946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you see the extreme negative code documentation page via proggit? < 1316715922 192247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks < 1316715944 960055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would comment on it, but can't think of an appropriate comment < 1316715979 864981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#N If we don't require 'based', we can't use Based:: module < 1316715980 35566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :require 'based' < 1316715980 53682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#N If we don't require 'synqa', we can't use Synqa:: module < 1316715980 53887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :require 'synqa' < 1316715980 54035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#N If we don't require 'digest/sha2', we can't use Digest::SHA256 < 1316715980 211824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :require 'digest/sha2' < 1316715982 504481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sick of it already < 1316715994 612796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#N Without :uploaddry, the only way to see what files are going to be uploaded and/or deleted by :upload is to actually call :upload and do the actual uploading and deleting. < 1316715998 916130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, it's like writing the code you were going to write < 1316716001 976862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in a really awkward tense < 1316716008 686040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and without any sort of checking by the computer < 1316716026 373808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, I think it's the wrong level of granularity < 1316716039 77713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the comments are useful, but you're going to mentally filter them with that many useless < 1316716083 883801 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1316716187 231065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So far, #reddit has increased my daily traffic 30000%, and still growing. Just under 3000 hits today." -- embedded twitter feed of someone with a post from reddit < 1316716189 699406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whole three thousand hits < 1316716218 444619 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all my facebook friends visited a page twice, it would have more hits than that < 1316716242 385008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: rather than their usual 10 < 1316716258 781352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: how would you get all your facebook friends to do that? < 1316716279 15583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, usual one tenth < 1316716279 899848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1316716282 362244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm < 1316716284 245324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :percentages are hard < 1316716295 360780 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: With great difficulty < 1316716296 264188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: quick, get all your facebook friends to visit that blog post twice < 1316716302 351751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for science < 1316716343 277345 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link? < 1316716346 815336 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all my Google+ friends were to visit a page twice, I'd have 8 hits. And I might even be able to convince them. < 1316716354 106747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://poita.org/index.php/blog/1-latest-news/67-thoughts-on-immutability-in-d, it's boring but WHO CARES < 1316716357 120669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's for science. < 1316716359 701536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sciency science. < 1316716364 631033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPECULATIVE science. < 1316716437 533661 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOCIAL SCIENCE < 1316716454 752955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No no no SPECULATIVE science. < 1316716463 555726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need someone to catch the reference. At least Gregor. Come on, anyone? < 1316716474 790078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if all my Facebook friends were to visit a page, it wouldn't make any difference at all < 1316716485 333869 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats facebook friends < 1316716501 968719 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something I have way to many of, monqy < 1316716541 296974 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thousand eight hundred and twenty five < 1316716544 399606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote if all my Facebook friends were to visit a page, it wouldn't make any difference at all < 1316716545 965181 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :678) if all my Facebook friends were to visit a page, it wouldn't make any difference at all < 1316716553 206860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's not that good a quote < 1316716558 511494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it < 1316716604 868879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1316716606 523551 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :378) the big issue with category theory is that pretty much everything forms a category < 1316716612 339923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1316716614 402409 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :402) Top universities now employ people to watch infomercials all day to find the latest mysteries. < 1316716617 685670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1316716619 383296 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :17) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. Second, learn the rest with your NEW MIND-COMPUTER INTERFACE. < 1316716622 124689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1316716623 645094 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :181) you should be eating corpses more < 1316716626 567101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1316716628 486282 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :296) I'm a bit 'tarded. < 1316716631 830676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was one alternate universe quote, quality is guaranteed. < 1316716632 912508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1316716633 960780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, that one isterrible. < 1316716634 729696 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :275) are you always careful to have a small enough margin so that it can't contain the proof? nddrylliog: i usually use latex, and make sure my hd is almost full < 1316716636 702312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 296 < 1316716638 596259 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* < 1316716649 377079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I like 275 < 1316716652 100245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1316716653 960119 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :481) oklopol: Why do you have so much experience with hoop-and-stick? :P Gregor: my fetish: learning pointless skills < 1316716658 795418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1316716660 489030 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :308) file:///home/fis/src/chainlance/tapestats.png -- yes, I think it's nice that way when the edge is always the opponent's flag. < 1316716677 1208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that in the qdb? < 1316716685 600066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some innuendo I haven't spotted? < 1316716699 203905 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ot < 1316716707 99287 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just mocking my file:/// URI. < 1316716707 378930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: linking to file:/// < 1316716713 202950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1316716713 988372 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOCKING. < 1316716717 862273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was even tempted to visit that URL < 1316716723 232608 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOOOOCKING. < 1316716726 868185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1316716727 779488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I clicked open but nothing happened :( < 1316716728 822535 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :347) elliott: hey, thinking's easier than using the Internet < 1316716735 190132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my client didn't autolink it < 1316716736 803835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1316716738 194682 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :143) alise, marble marbelus < 1316716744 644770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still stand behind my opinion in 247 < 1316716746 429929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*347 < 1316716747 460810 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Firefox can't find the file at /home/fis/src/chainlance/tapestats.png." :( :( < 1316716749 334069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 247 < 1316716750 831651 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :247) I love the way zzo38's comment was cut off after the f of brainfuck that's just the most hilarious place to cut it off in a discussion about censorshi < 1316716751 872332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: rip < 1316716769 792735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-NickServ- Last failed attempt from: Elliott!~3lli0tt@cpc1-woki6-2-0-cust904.6-2.cable.virginmedia.com on Sep 22 14:31:14 2011. < 1316716771 278781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE < 1316716782 972327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to figure out what nick that guy is using and punish them. < 1316716802 589222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: someone else trying to log into your account? < 1316716805 357855 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3lli0tt < 1316716808 61610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~3lli0tt is a really awful username < 1316716809 569957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: repeatedly < 1316716815 684351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this ain't yer username, kiddo >:( < 1316716822 152432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should start using elliott_ and /whoising elliott periodically to catch them < 1316716832 391947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just set up a bot to ghost elliott constantly if it's not logged in < 1316716837 514904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's better than the thirty second grace period < 1316716841 171300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :five seconds, bam, ghosted < 1316716877 118142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it seems I mentally pronounce 3lli0tt as "threlliott" < 1316716892 125394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1316716892 276602 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/user/3lli0tt <- same guy?-) < 1316716893 626205 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow in addition to elliottcable and elliottt there is also an elliot < 1316716894 192279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :threlliott < 1316716912 256906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether my pronunciation of it ends with one or two t's < 1316716917 466627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're pronounced the same < 1316716953 308052 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this morning i saw thor pawning his hammer at the store < 1316716972 648209 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the maamazing vidoe... < 1316716985 208420 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is htis......................... < 1316716986 143362 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1316717045 555815 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what < 1316717665 133687 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hoogle read < 1316717665 311250 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude read :: Read a => String -> a < 1316717665 508540 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text.Read read :: Read a => String -> a < 1316717665 526753 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :module Text.Read < 1316717666 900062 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1316717668 949895 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hoogle Read a => q < 1316717669 153931 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean: :: q /count=20 < 1316717669 299919 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude undefined :: a < 1316717669 317635 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test.QuickCheck.Batch bottom :: a < 1316717674 387308 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hoogle Read a => String -> m a < 1316717674 743531 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude readIO :: Read a => String -> IO a < 1316717675 414272 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.IO readIO :: Read a => String -> IO a < 1316717676 478492 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1316717677 366886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Network.CGI.Protocol maybeRead :: Read a => String -> Maybe a < 1316717705 935392 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t reads < 1316717706 642580 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Read a) => String -> [(a, String)] < 1316718272 231496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, unexpected: tPCI release the rules for the 2012 Pokémon Video Game Championships, competitive Pokémon players actually like them < 1316718280 103238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both halves are unexpected for me < 1316718593 585010 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a CLOTH TAPE MEASURE < 1316718620 122576 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, traditional monolithic kernels provide a very *strange* form of abstraction. < 1316718654 950364 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They present an environment that is both very low-level *and* has little to do with what common machines actually do. < 1316718871 703841 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, they do crazy things like present an idea of memory allocation that is *not* in terms of "Place a page in my address space at address foo, kthx" < 1316719031 29891 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the fuck is with files? It's such a painfully low-level scheme, and yet the low-level abstraction that would make sense would be something along the lines of allocating disk blocks to do with as you will. < 1316719059 923329 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hating on Unix, files before it was cool. < 1316719078 107766 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :threlliott: This rant is provided by me trying to get a basic kernel running. < 1316719091 96795 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And wondering "why the *fuck* does anyone do anything like this". < 1316719103 165876 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernels are also an outdated notion, if you're going to whine. < 1316719146 559277 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ always and forever < 1316719151 789650 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amen. < 1316719170 70190 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah, ideally a "kernel" would be a startup routine which would start a scheduler. < 1316719173 531621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The @ of Now and Forever. < 1316719246 726981 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Schedulers are also relatively obsolete, at least in the sense of having one and only one. Usually you'd want some entity using timers to manage the event chains and switch out the operational code of entities underneath its control, but there's no reason a privileged entity might not decide to disable interrupts, shut down the other cores, and manually co-opt out. < 1316719269 124447 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All a startup routine should do is restore the previous state; choices like schedulers are a matter of initial configuration. < 1316719276 692086 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is also simpler than writing a kernel.) < 1316719323 582978 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :threlliott: Note I didn't say *the* scheduler. < 1316719344 289024 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why should the startup routine concern itself with whether any scheduler exists at all? < 1316719352 121948 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is trivially possible to have a valid configuration without one. < 1316719363 721611 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316719367 532101 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Say one privileged, atomic entity drawing garbage over the screen forever.) < 1316719410 589256 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ('a','b') < 1316719411 294597 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ('a','b') < 1316719422 42668 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you've got orthogonal persistance going (which you probably should)... Then it's more a matter of basic startup followed by restoring registers and jumping to the instruction pointer. < 1316719464 819303 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, more high-level (because why should your programs all be straight machine code?), just calling the continuation. < 1316719559 341743 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The startup code should just call a continuation, which will most likely set up persistence code from a fixed (or easily-locatable) location on the disk, and then call another continuation, which will result in the entire system state being restored as part of its execution. < 1316719563 910061 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways. Traditional kernel design *seems* to basically be "write a support library for your programming language of choice, write some basic utilities, interrupt handlers, and drivers, and then hand userspace a small handful of comically low-level interfaces into this" < 1316719653 136167 :threlliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1316719695 235218 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kernel gets its own damned runtime library, simply because running machine code directly necessitates that there be no more advanced interfaces between the kernel and the program other than, basically, the standard UNIX complement. < 1316719725 741583 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1316719793 150087 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's rather a lot of work that goes into maintaining this complete seperation, too. I mean, jeeze, a typical kernel maintains a page table per process, and switches them and entirely flushes the TLB on task switch. < 1316719826 255938 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simply because there's no other way of providing sane guarantees with a machine code environment. < 1316719843 242096 :tiffnya!~tiffany@188.215.83.116 NICK :tiffany < 1316719864 32887 :tiffany!~tiffany@188.215.83.116 NICK :tiffany|away < 1316719876 124077 :tiffany|away!~tiffany@188.215.83.116 NICK :tiffany < 1316719988 467250 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is really considered evidence of anything? I've heard Mark Levin use the Spanish-inflected pronunciation of Sonia Sotomayor's name (so tow my OR rather than so tow MY er), but nobody would claim that proves he's Catholic or Hispanic. Golgaronok 23:55, 9 April 2010 (EDT) < 1316719992 471619 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pronunciation shows an enormous amount about someone's views and history. Obama doesn't use the American pronunciation, and this is telling, since no one else in the public sphere pronounces it in the muslim way but Obama. DouglasA 00:15, 10 April 2010 (EDT) < 1316719996 472578 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :bahahaha < 1316720006 916640 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :conservapedia is so entertaining. < 1316720020 859751 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this for real < 1316720030 637849 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1316720030 969213 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: Yes, but it's for conservatives, so they'll either be rich, or act as if they're rich in every situation despite not being rich. < 1316720050 570398 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DouglasA... he was a parodist, I think. < 1316720051 203781 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Obama apparently pronounces Pakistan "the muslim way" < 1316720066 396547 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's quite convincing and hilarious. :D < 1316720072 988707 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of this newspaper quip i read that american poor don't see themselves as poor, but as temporarily inconvenienced millionaires < 1316720083 547974 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolwat < 1316720093 347072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, RW doesn't list him as one, actually. < 1316720094 524386 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the conservative poor, anyway < 1316720099 260621 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impressive, considering there's not a single "Muslim way", particularly for a country as linguistically diverse as Pakistan. < 1316720100 341398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was inspired by that, admittedly. :p < 1316720106 469450 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, american poor see themselves as poor. american middle class see themselves as poor. < 1316720123 73727 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...generally < 1316720166 34524 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: the idea here being to explain them supporting the rich by them having some idea that eventually they were going to be rich too. i think. < 1316720174 878058 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1316720194 572701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1316720204 958112 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"american dream" turned into a dogma, was my impression. < 1316720227 35704 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame Horatio Alger. < 1316720235 591809 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they support the rich because rich people (aka conservative politicians) use a batshit stupid retoric they can understand. < 1316720446 717606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the usual path for per-user webpages on a UNIXy-setup server? < 1316720448 25014 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, conservatives get poor people votes because they appeal to religion/intolerance. < 1316720452 902114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, the in-/home version of /var/www? < 1316720816 542678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: public_html < 1316720821 57511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of gross < 1316721304 965196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks < 1316721317 451631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be the easiest way to manage what I'm doing for my job atm < 1316721337 755492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it exists on the University computers < 1316721353 216566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm, there's just a .html file there full of PHP tags < 1316721360 644523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it's being served as-is or run through PHP first < 1316721362 87422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks < 1316721382 403541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as-is, it seems < 1316721383 835285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how awful < 1316721760 185416 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. What. What. < 1316721769 12306 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CERN has apparently observed particles moving >C. < 1316721800 712015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, they're not sure what's going on either < 1316721814 925652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely not a statistical fluctuation, they repeated the experiment 15 thousand times to make sure < 1316721818 833789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1316721822 495567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're hoping it's some sort of systematic error < 1316721822 655053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote it's definitely not a statistical fluctuation, they repeated the experiment 15 thousand times to make sure < 1316721824 291140 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :678) it's definitely not a statistical fluctuation, they repeated the experiment 15 thousand times to make sure < 1316721829 937615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best kind of excess < 1316721923 579711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really hope that it turns out faster than light travel is possible, it's exactly like Star Trek, all current physics has to be replaced by technobabble... < 1316721932 98207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then we just need Zefram Cochrane and the plot is WELL IN ORDER. < 1316721940 475359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently neutrinos arrived 60ns sooner than should have been possible, experimental error margin is believed to be 10ns < 1316721941 847848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK so technically we missed some wars and shit but who cares. < 1316721950 800711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if they can run the experiment 15000 times in a row, presumably it's quite easy to reproduce < 1316722011 177270 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I'd go with "easy". < 1316722019 235692 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Possible to do consistently", perhaps. < 1316722021 883280 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Request citation. < 1316722033 570354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If this is confirmed, this is one of the most important moments in science and human history. This should be at the top of the front page for days. < 1316722033 730264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead it will probably be out paced by a picture of someone's cat. < 1316722033 748426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EDIT: just occurred to me, faster then light particles could have interesting consequences in the field of data transmission. something to think about" < 1316722042 639775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit commentors: So stupid. < 1316722044 940948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the citation's to a Slashdot comment < 1316722059 871070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HEY GUYS THIS IS FTL TRAVEL THIS IS HUGE. EDIT: Whoaa, if you could go faster than light you could... transfer data... faster than light..." < 1316722079 591027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how long is light meant to take to go 732km, anyway? < 1316722108 824649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like 0 < 1316722111 949048 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.0024168918 seconds < 1316722113 610422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a global scale < 1316722119 456437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's fast. light is fast. < 1316722135 278647 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(methodology: google "732km in lightseconds") < 1316722135 296773 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : light isn't fast enough! < 1316722136 971078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, milliseconds? that's slower than I expected < 1316722138 254896 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is that how large CERN is? < 1316722153 851660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Light is actually pretty slow, in honesty. < 1316722161 294426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no, they were sending a neutrino beam to another lab to see how many neutrinos spontaneously changed to other sorts of neutrinos < 1316722165 288819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they arrived early < 1316722165 762454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 300000/732 < 1316722166 887273 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 409.8360655737705 < 1316722169 335049 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Consider that a decent chunk of Internet latency is from the speed of light. < 1316722172 576157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I mean, consider that at one point, university-to-university internet was getting at half the maximum theoretical light limit. < 1316722184 320889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(When that latency vs. bandwidth article was written.) < 1316722185 289871 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I failed at maths somewhere there. < 1316722186 395701 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though most of it is just hardware and software sucking. < 1316722188 241924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: was it using optical fibre? < 1316722189 994590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that was definitely a perceptible latency. < 1316722194 620797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think copper? Might have been wrong. < 1316722207 231902 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 732/300000 < 1316722208 199604 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.44e-3 < 1316722215 322902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, if it was copper, that seems like an inconvenient thing to use < 1316722218 489070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Point is, light is slow enough to create very noticable latency for us day-to-day. < 1316722226 740110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can't even IRC to Mars :( < 1316722254 408853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The moon is a much better target for colonisation because it would be IRCable. < 1316722287 806704 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the latency would be a *little* high, but TCP would still work just fine. < 1316722289 20965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could text Mars < 1316722291 285175 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, this is interesting indeed. < 1316722306 233316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: TCP can handle stupidly high latencies easily; most applications will stop waiting, though < 1316722311 313150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not with the kind of latency modern SMS users expect < 1316722315 68606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :email, sure < 1316722321 479905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but irc is a basic human right and all :P < 1316722322 170291 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/ko638/if_the_particle_discovered_as_cern_is_proven/ < 1316722334 491575 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: TCP stacks generally time out after a few minutes. < 1316722340 826108 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other weird thing is that the particle alleged to have gone faster than light wasn't even a new one < 1316722355 599069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a neutrino < 1316722361 825924 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's a bit strange that they saw this in something that's at least somewhat well-understood. < 1316722362 107890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: they don't /have/ to, though < 1316722366 131169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is our actual light roundtrip latency to the moon? < 1316722367 409665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just an arbitrary decision < 1316722368 975233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cba to google it < 1316722372 426559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or W|A it < 1316722373 327161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1316722374 845658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's about a second < 1316722384 476525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not bad < 1316722389 973498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even browse the web like that < 1316722393 119677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it'd be a bit painful < 1316722395 600927 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the moon is like .25 million miles away or something. < 1316722405 531646 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I've used the Internet on higher-latency links. < 1316722408 931098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you mean pages normally load within a second for you? < 1316722424 626387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm used to high bandwidth but high latency too < 1316722432 696091 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Um, it would take a second for the TCP connection to initialise. < 1316722435 314642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ph < 1316722437 887683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1316722444 567590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1316722448 105861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1316722448 945021 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so what's the speed of fast? < 1316722449 202098 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, looks like it should be ~20 seconds. < 1316722450 312563 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, more than a second. < 1316722451 794058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one to three seconds < 1316722455 684479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loading anything in Chrome takes minutes < 1316722460 609281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :searches definitely less than a second < 1316722462 957049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Chromium < 1316722465 939710 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that might be an issue < 1316722469 96579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: /something/ is wrong with your configuration < 1316722474 595658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only use it for testing websites, and for when I have to log into Google < 1316722486 374533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I used to use Epiphany for that, but Chromium seems like the perfect browser for the purpose) < 1316722497 701012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would live on a terraformed moon, it sounds like fun < 1316722510 797443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what does it say about me that I mistrust Google enough to let them store cookies only on a browser I don't use for anything else) < 1316722522 529971 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, other than the bit where a terraformed moon is impossible. < 1316722534 28271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/TerraformedMoonFromEarth.jpg < 1316722537 541311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISPROVEN BY WIKIPEDIA IMAGES < 1316722544 677403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how they basically just took... a livable planet. < 1316722547 517345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And called it the moon. < 1316722556 467806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then tried to emulate craters. < 1316722557 263881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So bad. < 1316722565 952396 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, see shavera's response in that link I have and — wait we have neutrino beams now? < 1316722579 847273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why is a terraformed moon impossible? semantics pedantry? or something else? < 1316722596 967067 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Particle accelerators can consistently produce neutrino beams. < 1316722601 331590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can certainly create a liveable environment on the moon, even if it's not terraforming < 1316722609 52722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might have to be under a dome though < 1316722611 971147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :producing a neutrino beam isn't hard for particle physics experimenters < 1316722615 10286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's detecting them that's hard < 1316722617 406813 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, because I'm very sure you can't have a breathable atmosphere with only 1/6G to hold it down. < 1316722620 493872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as neutrinos tend not to interact with things much < 1316722635 289761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: terraforming has nothing to do with breathable atmosphere, right? < 1316722643 22897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, I'm irrationally leaning on the side of the particles actually going FTL. < 1316722647 240069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just because I want them to be. < 1316722647 518103 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it's kind of a prerequisite? < 1316722647 555111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just use domes or something to keep the atmosphere in < 1316722661 51084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not terraforming. < 1316722670 152396 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe terraforming is the process of making a planet habitable. < 1316722674 292966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, I take this as evidence for the theory that physics is being made up by some deity over time in order to screw with scientists < 1316722677 163578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what if we lined just underneath the surface of the moon with graviton-infused metals. < 1316722678 983661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What then. < 1316722688 684910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever they run an experiment, it's a case of "shall I make this consistent with existing theories? nah" < 1316722691 508882 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you'd win like 50 Nobel prizes. < 1316722700 619258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sometimes "yes", which is probably the default, I guess < 1316722700 637220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Reminds me of a certain Fine Structure chapter. (PH will now mock me for not having finished it yet and probably accidentally spoil me in the process.) < 1316722705 997219 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about enough atmosphere for plant life? < 1316722710 918240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: They would be the best Nobel prizes. < 1316722718 323880 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, MITCH IS ACTUALLY SANTA < 1316722722 654680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew it. < 1316722726 468746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does he kill Dumbledore? < 1316722742 932226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, he doesn't kill anyone. < 1316722750 992278 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ching kills the Easter Bunny, though. < 1316722760 39734 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voldemort is Tyler Durden < 1316722771 592857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vYWhoNg < 1316722772 282177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not < 1316722773 119815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1316722773 839754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this < 1316722797 353738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i am stuck with help guy now < 1316722819 657624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is disturbing < 1316722834 767820 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As has been discussed here quite a bit by those smarter than I, the speed of light isn't just the fastest thing in the universe, like a world record. It's the literal maximum. It's what happens when you take your rpg stats and instead of putting most of them in 'time' and a handful in 'distance', as most matter does, you just dump everything into 'distance' and don't give a damn about your internal clock. It's the maxim < 1316722834 824462 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um speed that information itself can travel through the universe, which, if broken, can upset the laws of causality. I can't fathom what would happen if this result stands up to scrutiny." < 1316722841 831583 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the best explanation of relativity ever. < 1316722881 361817 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1316722958 663029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, the Pirate Party got 15 seats on the Berlin council < 1316722978 580803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they hadn't expected to get nearly that many, that was all the candidates they'd put up for vote < 1316722989 792500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a proportional-representation system) < 1316723063 169974 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck alsa, I'm unable to figure out how to make it use dmix for one output device but not use dmix for another one < 1316723081 491165 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll just go OSSv4, but that sounds like a lot of work < 1316723111 636002 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :jack is good. < 1316723115 596565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: ... < 1316723117 244739 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1316723149 174861 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: I use jack only when I'm running programs that benefit from it. Such as sound recording programs. < 1316723177 296094 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: anyway it doesn't solve my main issue: one of my sound cards have proper hw mixer, the other one does not < 1316723185 157128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is nobody going to mentioned that JACK doesn't actually go directly to hardware < 1316723195 96567 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there is that too < 1316723206 832190 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :only alsa and oss do that < 1316723234 92070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, Linux sound has mostly just-worked for me, with the exception that Pulse sometimes needs restarting for any sound to work, and that ALSA used to have issues detecting headphones < 1316723284 461481 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought jack at least allowed you to route things to different devices and such. < 1316723288 568108 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote The moon is a much better target for colonisation because it would be IRCable. < 1316723290 166506 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :679) The moon is a much better target for colonisation because it would be IRCable. < 1316723293 976588 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-78-146-168-58.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1316723296 847785 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :another issue: nwn uses oss, and doesn't respect my default sound card as given in /etc/asound.conf (not surprising). No clue how to configure where ALSA's OSS emulation goes < 1316723318 499821 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously I wasn't suggesting he /replace/ alsa with jack. that wouldn't make any sense. < 1316723351 758863 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't use pulse, it is horrible. Especially since it tends to conflict badly with jack in my experience < 1316723383 480565 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO pulse doesn't really offer anything worth that extra layer. < 1316723401 974652 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need per-program volume levels for example. < 1316723406 295512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've found per-application volume controls really valuable < 1316723413 451748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly to balance Flash against Totem < 1316723431 301891 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why would you listen to two things at once? < 1316723446 834053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might switch between them a lot < 1316723454 801089 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1316723457 492413 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1316723462 937064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's important to me to get the volume control range usable < 1316723470 500440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want the usable range of the volume control to be all at one end of the scale < 1316723488 251824 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well for me it varies widely what is reasonable between my pro audio headphones and my cheap creative headset < 1316723491 593279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because I use both headphones and speakers, which have different sound output levels at the same on-computer volumes < 1316723531 525400 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I can not use the same volume settings. It would destroy my hearing when switching from the cheap headset to the good headphones < 1316723605 589122 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh that too, my laptop has widely different level on speaker and headphones. I need near max when using the built in speakers, though I avoid that, terrible sound quality. And near mute when using my pro audio headphones. < 1316723619 329043 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cheap headset: somewhere in between < 1316723623 696629 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :very weird that < 1316723701 420992 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[ALSA has] Better support for MIDI devices. With OSS you will have to use a software synthesizer such as Timidity or Fluidsynth. " according https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OSS, if that is true, OSSv4 is not an option for me. I need hardware midi < 1316723725 183284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need hardware MIDI? < 1316723728 719138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a strange thing to randomly need < 1316723749 505836 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because I have a keyboard I attach to the hw midi port on my PCI sound card < 1316723756 763697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1316723801 608730 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh and midi over USB is bad in my experience, USB has higher latency < 1316723820 555552 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :midi is in general bad. < 1316723833 698345 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: hardware midi with midi cable works just fine < 1316723837 775259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I compose, it's using physical piano + rosegarden for entering the tune into a computer when I'm done < 1316723838 926902 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :never had any issues with that < 1316723840 914524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via computer keyboard < 1316723860 661569 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I just hook up rosegarden to my electrical piano by MIDI < 1316723890 43026 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I mean the protocol itself is limiting. < 1316723900 389895 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works fine for responding to keypresses and stuff though. < 1316723910 452043 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1316724007 202442 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as a general purpose "musical instrument digital interface" it is lacking in some regards. < 1316724023 547759 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1316724033 636150 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: it works for what I use it for though. < 1316724049 442314 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316724114 442277 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSC is a little better < 1316724128 936068 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSC? < 1316724135 842602 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's not as widely supported. < 1316724140 561285 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of it < 1316724145 608207 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it stand for? < 1316724153 322085 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :open sound control. < 1316724160 833043 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it runs over ethernet. < 1316724166 511400 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1316724187 568072 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it can run on other things < 1316724197 105488 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: that sounds like a terrible idea for a real time application like sound in a studio recording environment < 1316724226 340742 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's that? < 1316724234 942817 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ethernet is fairly fast. < 1316724277 349631 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: ethernet offers no guarantees on the latency. If you use a switched topology the switch may or may not delay your packet in internal buffers for example. < 1316724284 216204 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardware support is kind of limited, but a lot of high-end devices support it, such as this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemur_Input_Device < 1316724410 72142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1316724418 926944 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And common Ethernet devices have rather absurd buffering, adding further latency. < 1316724435 432492 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too yes < 1316724437 182598 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the default buffering on Linux is itself absurd. < 1316724439 768082 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it's connected directly to your computer you wouldn't have these problems would you? < 1316724441 797512 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Networking sucks. < 1316724442 772299 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. < 1316724461 541411 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The far-too-high buffering *is layered*. < 1316724467 482579 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1316724483 811983 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIDI at least offers some real time guarantees. < 1316724486 71302 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :does changing the buffer mode on the socket not fix this I gather? < 1316724507 172024 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: not for the hardware buffering at least. < 1316724531 841241 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That can change the kernel buffering. < 1316724555 439589 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually OSC is typically transmitted over USB from input device to computer. < 1316724570 468205 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can also go over network. < 1316724606 529735 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the protocol is far more flexible though. < 1316724629 59051 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1316724644 757433 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :USB has inferior latency compared to MIDI again. Just look at MIDI over USB. Only usable as a toy really. < 1316724678 97492 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :The advantages of OSC over MIDI are primarily speed and throughput; internet connectivity; data type resolution; and the comparative ease of specifying a symbolic path, as opposed to specifying all connections as 7-bit numbers with 7-bit or 14-bit data types < 1316724682 96639 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there you go. < 1316724701 160746 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't say over which transport < 1316724735 95162 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A standard for MIDI over USB was developed in 1999 as a joint effort between IBM, Microsoft, Altec Lansing, Roland Corporation, and Philips.[9] To transmit MIDI over USB a Cable Number and Cable Index are added to the message, and the result is encapsulated in a USB packet. The resulting USB message can be double the size of the native MIDI message. Since USB is over 15,000 times faster than MIDI (480, < 1316724735 261169 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :000 Kbits/sec vs 31.25 Kbits/sec,) USB has the potential to be much faster. However, due to the nature of USB there is more latency and jitter introduced that is usually in the range of 2 to 10 ms, or about 2 to 10 MIDI commands. Some comparisons done in the early part of the 2000s showed USB to slightly slower with higher latency,[10] and this is still the case today." < 1316724840 83097 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSC is nice because you can actually send audio data if you need to. < 1316724861 849770 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or video, etc. < 1316724918 66046 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OSC messages between gestural controllers are usually transmitted over serial endpoints of USB by being wrapped in the SLIP protocol." <-- what, why SLIP? < 1316725026 334197 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1316725058 131058 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it makes it easier to transmit over IP later? < 1316725067 886304 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1316725072 787560 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1316725554 866537 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1316725751 175491 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1316726131 555785 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1316726153 900582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it take 3 minutes to email gmail from my own computer? < 1316726156 618088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, rather more < 1316726158 123707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 now < 1316726845 795285 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1316726869 19426 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1316728511 830947 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1316729086 741178 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316729609 666476 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → sleep < 1316729610 506424 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1316729825 406290 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1316730210 576529 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1316730387 187395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it finally arrived < 1316730412 749931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took over half an hour for an email to a gmail account to arrive in the account's inbox after it had already arrived at Google itself, based on the received headers < 1316730420 170150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that acceptable service for email nowadays? < 1316730488 247779 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-158-172.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeeze, I would've expected that shit when there wasn't any hard guarantee that your email was actually routing over the Internet. < 1316730495 434716 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just all the neutrinos stealing the speed < 1316730968 79156 :ive!~nn@189.179.246.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316730998 475059 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1316731001 602544 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Miss me? < 1316731018 275568 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you were gone? < 1316731021 131781 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs away < 1316731065 741209 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely wonders if there are alternatives to Mibbit which allow Freenode < 1316731105 775977 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1316731168 45062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: Freenode blocked Mibbit, not the other way round < 1316731238 161617 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is aware of this, but was being untechnical in his question < 1316731253 665908 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I might not have been entirely thinking when I asked it. Not sure. < 1316731308 969410 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the one that's currently free but soon won't be :/ < 1316731354 740732 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: ALWAYS BE TECHNICAL ALWAYS. < 1316731368 269049 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABOUT althings < 1316731376 273421 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that it is easy to misread untechnical as unethical < 1316731405 262037 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe if you're an old blind norseman. < 1316731428 517865 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is oerjan old < 1316731436 260419 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know actually. < 1316731462 552029 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to imagine him stylistically as an old wise man. Like Odin. < 1316731463 322376 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is oerjan old < 1316731486 396875 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know because that's Norse mythology and stuff. < 1316731490 261695 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1316731504 874350 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits cheater with his cane J=====O < 1316731515 324528 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YKGOML < 1316731525 695196 :tiffany!~tiffany@188.215.83.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o~o < 1316731530 444905 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wacro virus < 1316731556 863455 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: ITYMAIM < 1316731587 516605 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: also, i'm not missing an eye < 1316731627 774582 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but you share your great wisdom of past and future. < 1316731632 671565 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :often in a mystical prophetic manner. < 1316731656 312567 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the neutrinos affecting my brain < 1316731780 279318 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1316731801 127094 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are the balanced elderly force of wisdom that synergizes with elliott's rash youthful spunk and ingenuity. < 1316731825 509287 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolrjan < 1316731897 262958 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1316731981 888458 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is the grouchy janitor. >_> < 1316731998 91811 :cheater!~cheater@ip-109-43-42-150.web.vodafone.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gr stands for grouchy < 1316732010 989827 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: don't tell him I said that < 1316732029 91713 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no the gr g is the initial of his name and the r is the last charater of his first name. < 1316732070 796060 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Gregor is actually Roger G. as I've proven on several occasions. < 1316732076 576496 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/name/last name/ < 1316732097 924222 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say so, Tehpor Pekac < 1316732186 184508 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the cosmic janitor is equally important < 1316732199 34178 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as he maintains the order of the two contrasting forces. < 1316733635 85056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1316733820 225153 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1316733974 833594 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1316734566 54699 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor is the grouchy janitor. >_> Gregor: don't tell him I said that // ... wut