< 1314663395 400273 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1314663723 742186 :variable!~thing@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1314663914 384092 :variable!~thing@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1314663977 722910 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK esonauts, make some terrible jokes regarding the fallacy/phallus/fellatio punfecta. < 1314663993 879936 :kwertii!~kwertii@ip98-185-253-33.sb.sd.cox.net QUIT :Quit: kwertii < 1314664123 839774 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think we are, cunning linguists? < 1314664217 85962 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/jya5h/gmailcom_being_mitmd_by_iran_using_this/ < 1314664311 685061 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(links to http://pastebin.com/ff7Yg663) < 1314664353 472156 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314664405 336244 :variable!~thing@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1314664573 412530 :variable!~thing@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1314664982 917464 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I compiled a Haskell program that has foreign export, it made up a C program file with StgClosure and Capability and rts_checkSchedStatus and some other stuff that I don't know. < 1314665131 693592 :variable!~thing@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1314665310 285940 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I was trying to fill a comment that had a CAPTCHA. If I typed in "Anonymous" as the name, it always said the CAPTCHA was wrong. I tried it ten times it didn't work so I changed the name to "A. Nonymous" and then it worked OK < 1314665334 724331 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It didn't say anything about the name being wrong; it said the CAPTCHA was wrong.) < 1314665369 326459 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of stuff is that? < 1314665403 585160 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad stuff. < 1314665445 840692 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it do that? < 1314665498 327806 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe someone doesn't want anonymous posts, and made a mistake in the code so it doesn't give a different error message < 1314665525 716334 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid, anyhow < 1314669234 249699 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY < 1314669240 364252 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even notice the reference in the topic. < 1314669261 591038 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS THE NINETIES, AND THERE IS TIME FOR FINNKLAX < 1314669487 733836 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't decide whether cranking up the reverb to 2 bounces is actually improving the audio, or I'm just jacking off to reverb. < 1314669791 151343 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: if you cannot tell the difference, you're in risk of committing a phallus fallacy. < 1314669824 478653 :variable!~thing@128.226.240.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314669831 376253 :variable!~thing@128.226.240.172 QUIT :Changing host < 1314669831 447988 :variable!~thing@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1314669847 833070 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BA-DUM < 1314670050 593794 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1314670075 336674 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314671184 695872 :jcp|1!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314671219 589171 :jcp|other!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1314671296 669696 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1314671461 227442 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314671587 439429 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314671655 471195 :jcp|1!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1314671784 270784 :jcp|other!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314671885 433741 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1314672652 873581 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314673376 473523 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314673902 616171 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1314673935 339075 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314676089 189623 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314676583 89018 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone read this before? http://www.springerlink.com/content/w7824830mp13171x/ < 1314676602 748039 :GuestIceKovu!x@ANantes-259-1-163-33.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1314676606 740562 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-173-26.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1314676607 398368 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!@#$ costing money < 1314676744 771404 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1314676748 877175 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 university < 1314677056 429634 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Kerr metric, which describes empty spacetime around a rotating black hole, possesses these features: a computer can orbit the black hole indefinitely, while an observer falling into the black hole experiences an M-H event as they cross the inner event horizon. (This, however, neglects the effects of Black Hole Evaporation.)" < 1314677061 530445 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malament-Hogarth_spacetime < 1314677078 724609 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, so if I'm willing to fall into a black hole, I can solve the halting problem for turing machines < 1314677222 500653 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't a human determine whether a program can halt? < 1314677229 982660 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not whether it does. < 1314677232 138604 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whether it can. < 1314677256 330163 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, is there an algorithm for that? < 1314677277 282932 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "whether it can" even mean? < 1314677278 113041 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if we can do it, I presume some equivalent finite machine can. < 1314677303 167456 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, barring all else, while(true){} can't halt. < 1314677314 900051 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But while(random()!=k){} can. < 1314677335 249974 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think impure stuff is part of traditional turing machines < 1314677454 739018 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: The only way to be sure is to run the machine over every possible input < 1314677556 99721 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Not really. A human's insight can often discern patterns that lead to discovery of the particular inputs for which the program does and does not halt. < 1314677579 627171 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps not always, but of course we're not infinitely intelligent either. < 1314677586 378676 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're just very good at pattern recognition. < 1314677714 135634 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: Yes, but pattern recognition is huristic < 1314677991 930428 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MSleep < 1314678138 110726 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: i think the collatz functions i recently learned about and put on the wiki are a counterexample where it's undecidable whether _any_ inputs don't halt. (the collatz problem itself is unsolved, but the paper i put as a link is iirc about showing that there are better examples) < 1314678184 468932 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where better = some of them are definitely undecidable) < 1314678193 40234 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*iiuc < 1314678223 536317 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. I guess humans can't always get it. < 1314678227 472912 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that's the reverse problem though. but i'd be surprised if what you said was solvable. < 1314678235 98862 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I didn't say "does halt". < 1314678236 874653 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said "can". < 1314678248 444810 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And obviously Collatz can halt for some inputs. < 1314678260 80073 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1314678305 42787 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is there a case where the reverse is true, where every input we've tried hasn't halted but we're not sure there's no input that does? < 1314678324 195306 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you there's only a difference if there are inputs < 1314678430 577191 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm there's that unambiguous parsing problem, which is undecidable, i think you can make that into an example. < 1314678478 329641 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given a context-free grammar, search for a string which has two different parsings. < 1314678487 285641 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :halt once you find one. < 1314678514 227277 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait what are the inputs < 1314678579 659450 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The input is presumably the grammar. < 1314678592 830259 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1314678624 930473 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't work since there are clearly some grammars that make this halt < 1314678632 542426 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's no algorithm for finding ambiguities in grammars? < 1314678646 997192 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A general one, of course. < 1314678655 773083 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you want it to halt if there aren't any < 1314678672 724467 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1314678690 894793 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always found it odd that analytical problems of that sort can be unhalting. < 1314678708 639958 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of unintuitive that a finite input can represent infinite computation. < 1314678743 105094 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at the same time obvious, if you've ever programmed anything. < 1314678775 773841 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's even more odd is the class of programs that are designed not to halt. < 1314678788 446471 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telephony systems, aircraft controllers, that sort of thing. < 1314678839 614417 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: Any turing machine that we have never proven halts or does not halt on any input satisfies your criterion < 1314678879 512395 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1314678890 556934 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humans are only so good. < 1314678901 677012 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course, we're finite. < 1314678909 545824 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if we're beautifully complex. < 1314678935 414960 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the notion of "does not halt" for a human is "gives up or dies after a while". < 1314679018 387463 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: iirc the proof for those ambiguous grammars is by constructing from a turing machine a grammar where a string with two parsings describes the history of the computation of the tm, and only exists if it halts. < 1314679059 229237 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting construction. < 1314679093 108759 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So lately I've been thinking about iterators. < 1314679098 719720 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pulling a Stepanov pretty much. < 1314679129 642107 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like they're a good model for pretty much any lazy computation. < 1314679148 663119 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course C++ is awful and it's difficult to test the ideas I've been having. < 1314679161 280756 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why use C++? < 1314679162 678899 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: um, what about cyclic lazy structures < 1314679175 515181 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let l = 1:2:l in l < 1314679176 565785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,... < 1314679180 908828 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have a cyclic iterator? < 1314679200 337801 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not really "traditional", but meh. < 1314679221 300404 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking about the data sharing, here < 1314679235 137466 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you elaborate? < 1314679267 731338 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that l in haskell evaluates to just a cyclic linked list with two elements < 1314679352 455751 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh a better thing that would be hard with iterators is tying-the-knot constructions < 1314679366 888079 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically l there is one, but very simple < 1314679411 328051 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, a cyclic list isn't hard. You can make a cyclic_iterator just like you did there, with a cons_iterator and a reference. < 1314679466 61656 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the mccarthy 91 function < 1314679471 246984 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I think it'd be simpler if you just had a cyclic_iterator use a buffer_iterator internally (which ordinarily would adapt a forward iterator into a bidirectional one). < 1314679526 551977 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1314679562 103282 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let m = [m !! (m !! (n + 11)) | n <- [0..100]] ++ [91 ..] in m < 1314679563 641443 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91,91... < 1314679666 803374 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What am I looking at here? < 1314679690 609637 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 99 function < 1314679693 229918 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :91 function < 1314679695 616340 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lazy list giving the values for the McCarthy 91 function < 1314679696 406033 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :mccarthy f91 < 1314679752 644430 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the calculation jumps back and forth, so an iterator is ... not so useful. < 1314679767 708816 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pain to implement in most proof languages < 1314679779 344973 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it doesn't obviously terminate < 1314679786 597524 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314679837 470158 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. I'll have to think about it. < 1314679885 261470 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: i think maybe iterators are good for the kind of lazy list computations that "fuse" in the sense of ghc's optimizations < 1314680003 141907 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're right... < 1314680005 857817 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Donald Knuth generalized the 91 function to include additional parameters. John Cowles developed a formal proof that Knuth's generalized function was total, using the ACL2 theorem prover." < 1314680031 56421 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so like, general backtracking computation over a sequence? < 1314680202 71410 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let m = [m !! (m !! (n + 11)) | n <- [0..100]] ++ [91 ..] in dropWhile ((==91).snd) . zip [0..] $ m < 1314680203 477844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(102,92),(103,93),(104,94),(105,95),(106,96),(107,97),(108,98),(109,99),(1... < 1314680234 609068 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be a lot more efficient with a memo trie < 1314680343 783473 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so there has to be some means of general recursion, and I'm not sure how to get that without special-casing it. < 1314680358 820441 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, you could consider a "recurse_tag" some kind of axiom. < 1314680367 874936 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would seem cleaner to have a "Y combinator" of iterators. < 1314680376 536667 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm not sure what that would be. < 1314680389 748710 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: hm that reminds me of the difference between general and primitive recursion < 1314680409 578428 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1314680537 276569 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I'm looking at this wrong. < 1314680545 260731 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Higher-order iterators are easy. < 1314680559 501926 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They already have access to the iterators they're receiving. < 1314680569 330079 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dereferencing them is what forces values. < 1314680630 290696 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you could write a Y iterator that just returns an iterator constructed from the type given as its input. < 1314680670 126839 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be a literal translation of \f.(\x.f(x x))(\x.f(x x)). < 1314680715 176643 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play Pokemon card. I managed to win even though they had only one side card remaining I had five, I just needed to survive for eight turns. But it helped because I had cards with a lot of hit points, as well as SWITCH and GUST OF WIND, guessing what card opponent has in their hand (they don't know how to bluff very well), and the prophecy defense. I picked up one card without a lot of hit points but did not play it in case opponent has GUST O < 1314680792 131367 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last card in their deck was a water energy (which could be used for retreat), but I calculated everything ahead of time to ensure that if they were able to do that, they still would not be able to do enough damage to knock out my active pokemon. < 1314680822 682220 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never played the game...I was always more into Magic myself. < 1314680840 424198 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I only collected Pokémon cards, and never built a Magic deck. < 1314680862 986132 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play Magic: the Gathering cards too. But I also like to play Pokemon card. I do not own any cards; I always borrow cards. < 1314680921 98274 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a few Magic: the Gathering cards, which are the ones I drafted. But I am never going to use them because if I go to a tournament I get new cards every time. < 1314681289 571579 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the game of Pokemon card (I use old style rules), there is a lot of tactical options and strategy; like chess the game is 90% tactics but there is long term strategy. You also have to know defense; I have the book "Art of Defense in Chess" and really in other game there are similar defensive themes. < 1314681302 661328 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, just had a thought about the iterator thing. < 1314681314 88961 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can model general loops as cyclic iterators and compositions of them. < 1314681334 24831 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you could have a game-loop-iterator(event-processing-iterator, rendering-iterator). < 1314681390 579405 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the game-loop-iterator models an abstract spiral data structure that ends when the game events end. < 1314681400 448568 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made up a new format of Pokemon card: All the cards in the deck other than basic energy cards are decided at random. And then, you can trade up to five of those cards for an equal number of new random cards. You can put basic energy cards yourself. In addition, you can play any evolution card as long as it is either the correct one (by name), *or* the following conditions all apply: < 1314681465 988775 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :* It has the same energy type as the card it is being played on. * It is the correct stage (such as stage 1 on basic, or stage 2 on stage 1). * All the lower stage cards in the stack you are playing it on have a proper evolution card of the stage you are playing. < 1314681536 169178 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For example, it is permitted to play WARTORTLE on SEEL but you could not play BLASTOISE on top of that because SEEL does not go up to stage 2.) < 1314681620 826149 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: So you just have to remember which cards have evolutions? Or is it on the cards themselves? (I forget.) < 1314681648 229669 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some cards (such as EEVEE) have evolution cards of different energy types; such evolutions can still be played. However, you could not play any fire type evolution card on EEVEE. You could however, play DRAGONAIR but not continue it to DRAGONITE.) < 1314681656 104972 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember SEEL → DEWGONG but the newer generation eludes me. < 1314681664 755814 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1314681669 368443 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really paid attention to Pokémon since 2nd generation. < 1314681700 291238 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: The evolution cards do say what card you play it on top of. Other than that it does not say; but I can remember. I am only playing the first generation cards anyways, with the exception of LUGIA which has no evolution cards anyways. < 1314681781 80525 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The POKEMON BREEDER card does require you to know which stage 2 card matches which basic pokemon card even though the card does not say. However, if you limit yourself to first generation pokemon cards, you can tell which stage 2 card matches by the pokemon number (for example, the stage 2 card #6 (CHARIZARD) matches basic pokemon card #4 (CHARMANDER)). < 1314681844 876873 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true, I hadn't thought of that. < 1314681942 506512 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; if and only if you are playing first generation only, the function of the POKEMON BREEDER card does not use any information that is not printed on the relevant cards themselves. < 1314681951 938688 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I may have come up with a general way of nicely expressing lazy computation in an eager, imperative language. < 1314681973 550500 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is nice because it also implies a nice way of compiling lazy languages into eager ones. < 1314681998 509051 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have to explore this... < 1314682020 15330 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and probably make some intermediate language that compiles to C++ so I don't drive myself insane. < 1314682042 27015 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ has ubiquity on its side, at least, as a target language. < 1314682043 105849 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you use LLVM instead? < 1314682051 769252 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would ordinarily. < 1314682052 227115 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile to c-- instead < 1314682086 320595 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think it'd be easier to target a slightly higher-level language where iterators make sense. < 1314682095 90255 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only as a proof of concept. < 1314682133 993372 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you're using C++ so you *don't* drive yourself insane? < 1314682212 829883 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to program LLVM with the macros of BLISS and the literate programming of WEB. < 1314682261 302795 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be, to me, almost an ideal programming language for the level and other kind of thing which is C is being used. < 1314682261 947996 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No, I'd be writing an intermediate language so I don't drive myself insane using C++ directly. < 1314682289 7172 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the very least, some kind of preprocessor. < 1314682292 985541 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LLVM is far better designed than C, in my opinion. < 1314682295 621297 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :targeting c++ sounds hilarious < 1314682326 103434 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I would like to see a high-level assembly based on LLVM, similar in some respects to C. < 1314682337 26566 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember FASM has nice macros...perhaps something like that. < 1314682378 841669 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I basically just need a language that's good for generic programming. < 1314682400 954621 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: what < 1314682403 402334 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aahhahaha < 1314682406 201853 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything else out there that's relatively low-level but also good at generic things? < 1314682418 283456 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I would use that. < 1314682419 165054 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the macro system of BLISS? Now combine the BLISS macros with the metamacros of Enhanced CWEB, and the ability to run code at compile time (Enhanced CWEB allows it in @{ ... @} blocks, while Template Haskell allows it in $( ... ) blocks). < 1314682421 122965 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be easier and better to do all the generic stuff yourself than target c++ < 1314682424 208840 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do the generic stuff < 1314682427 228170 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you crazy < 1314682447 290990 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of high level assembly based on LLVM and similar to C? What kind of ideas do you have about it? < 1314682515 209901 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Something based on a system like this: http://flatassembler.net/docs.php?article=manual#2.3.3 < 1314682537 547903 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where macros are introduced that build on one another to provide a high-level interface to the LLVM instructions. < 1314682616 847133 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What do you mean, "do it myself"? Write an interpreter/compiler? < 1314682645 172004 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you doing that already? < 1314682650 189016 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiling your language to c++? < 1314682692 918444 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't writing a language so much as just some macros or whatever to make writing loads of iterators less painful and error-prone. < 1314682734 353823 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if it targets C++, people might use it as a library. < 1314682739 339069 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what percentage of popular programming languages started out as "just some macros"? < 1314682757 969180 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: Actually in most cases I like the LLVM instructions directly; they are far better designed than C. But I would still like to have macros, similar to those in BLISS (Wikipedia has an article about BLISS; I also like the way that references to variables work in BLISS, and structures in BLISS; they are very versatile.) < 1314682760 262134 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do more popular languages count for more? < 1314682783 536810 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think EMACS did. < 1314682925 917826 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macros in BLISS have some similarities to macros in TeX and METAFONT (but not exactly). < 1314683233 593432 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitions of structure types in BLISS can take parameters and can contain any arbitrary program code. < 1314683271 46180 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I would like to see an explicit union type in LLVM; it could possibly even be used for some optimizations. < 1314683272 286849 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's another thing...what would be a good way of defining structures in my hypothetical iterator-language? < 1314683277 626718 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If I should make one.) < 1314683295 468024 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should all things be lists? < 1314683300 187962 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would make sense. < 1314683315 651269 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1314683322 568175 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iterators naturally work on flat structures... < 1314683337 136938 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What do you think? < 1314683371 597093 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't been attentioning < 1314683405 216585 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't force them to be flat because that's dumb < 1314683458 560108 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but it'd make sense for any concrete data to be represented by lists, lists of lists, and probably a handful of numeric types. < 1314683522 343570 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what is "iterators naturally work on flat structures..." about? < 1314683554 197458 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iterators present flat views of structures. < 1314683560 693134 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if they're hierarchical. < 1314683595 517140 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of lists are we talking about < 1314683642 218987 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. Probably contiguous, as you could represent linked lists with cons iterators. < 1314683643 204397 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they lazy? are they potentially infinite or perhaps restricted to being cyclic? are they necessarily homogenous? < 1314683650 603762 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by homogenous I mean type-wise < 1314683658 206357 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, any concrete data would be finite. < 1314683665 344592 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You model laziness with iterators. < 1314683666 14651 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by contiguous < 1314683670 889968 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in in memory? < 1314683673 475917 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1314683690 633002 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'd get efficient strings. < 1314683702 974955 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh whatever I don't feel like dealing with this right now < 1314683705 645382 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like having a primitive string type when it can be a list[char]. < 1314683719 476697 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314683726 666153 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want someone to work this out with. < 1314683730 779969 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then make it list[char] < 1314684022 61603 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell the String type is the same as [Char] and in C you often use char* type (although you sometimes explicitly declare an array in place) < 1314684120 221000 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a line of inquiry which interests me (as a Haskell developer) is the extent to which things can be made to look like lazy linked lists but be implemented with contiguous memory < 1314684126 817009 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is a Haskell list ever contiguous, even as an optimisation? < 1314684151 754622 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is already done on a somewhat ad-hoc basis, e.g. the Lazy ByteString type, which is basically a list of L2-cache-sized strict ByteStrings < 1314684163 720952 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it only gives you laziness at that coarse granularity < 1314684175 177571 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not a transparent optimization; it's a separate module written by the ByteString library authors < 1314684206 546202 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar, in GHC, not really no < 1314684217 903746 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the nodes would be accidentally contiguous, but this fact is not noticed or used < 1314684274 199832 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1314684292 524064 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many data types in Haskell for contiguous packed data < 1314684305 124896 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have significantly different semantics from lists < 1314684334 650339 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the idea of all non-lazy things (data) being contiguous and having value semantics, and all lazy things (iters) being non-contiguous and referential. < 1314684349 295583 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll go with it for now. < 1314684355 454597 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the idea of immutable data, for which value and reference semantics become much closer :) < 1314684483 80302 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my data are de facto immutable, considering. < 1314684501 566419 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: I don't actually know how Haskell lists are contiguous or not in memory a list in Haskell is just a constructor : of type a -> [a] -> [a] as well as the constructor [] of type [a] < 1314684597 455274 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are probably not particularly efficient as C and that stuff, although the way it is done in Haskell does allow a lot more things to be done with it than it would be if it were a simple contiguous finite list of items. < 1314684686 51165 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But Haskell does have FFI so that you can write parts of the program in C as well, or even LLVM since it uses the same calling conventions as C and is compatible with C programs) < 1314684770 605170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314684782 972696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Oh my god this is too perfect. < 1314684783 45549 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1314684795 709084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Bill Bailey's son is called Dax. < 1314684795 783334 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1314684798 279763 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Client Quit < 1314685204 120609 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1314685247 708795 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1314685902 946343 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I'm reading the C-- spec. So far I quite like it. < 1314686409 994183 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1314686457 498968 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314686620 930238 :CakeProphet!~adam@c-24-126-235-176.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314686631 127420 :CakeProphet!~adam@c-24-126-235-176.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1314686631 198626 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1314687776 264199 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems a shame that C-- hasn't taken off like LLVM has. < 1314687801 892434 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the exception of the Cmm used by GHC. < 1314687833 493428 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-- looks quite nice < 1314687867 866074 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I especially like the idea it has for handling garbage collection and exceptions < 1314687876 273549 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell us your code, then we'll tell you how to interact with the result < 1314687931 676255 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. And explicit support for tail calls and continuations and such is a major plus. < 1314687957 359977 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still unsure of how I want to compile this language to it. < 1314687977 246899 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to require parameterised types, which would be some work to implement the way I want. < 1314688809 140441 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Any compile-time error message that begins with the phrase "This can't happen" indicates an internal error in the Quick C-- compiler.' < 1314688858 788733 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You think? < 1314689830 872478 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1314689951 322768 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The project seems largely abandoned. No CVS updates since 2009. < 1314689962 307345 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the latest release notes cite a lot of unfinished business. < 1314689995 183871 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it got taken over by ghc < 1314690021 394682 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the only up to date maintained version of C-- is the one built into ghc < 1314690024 249653 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1314690027 146240 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Cmm is a subset of C-- used as a GHC IR. < 1314690085 503773 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :show me your garbage and i'll tell you who you are < 1314690142 611558 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly compressed empty plastic water jugs < 1314690146 69504 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: Largely paper plates, napkins, teabags, and receipts. < 1314690152 493580 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the one in my bedroom. < 1314690179 1841 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the other, tissues, hair, dust < 1314690427 761607 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: What kinds of tissues? Muscular? < 1314690539 137311 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :facial tissues for containing and cleaning up mucous, blood, phlegm, spills, acting as napkins < 1314690554 940254 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should use them to dust too < 1314690752 952461 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy uses people's facial tissues for scary things. < 1314690763 839799 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you cutt off people's faces, monqy? Why? < 1314690773 271539 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cutt is the way you spell cut. < 1314691994 187225 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to convert some text from SJIS to UTF-8. < 1314692012 725286 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saved it in a temporary file before I ran iconv. < 1314692035 480219 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before I did, I checked to see that the file contained what I expected it to. < 1314692038 117052 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My command line: < 1314692039 428193 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat shit < 1314692045 477371 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't think that one through. < 1314692152 783029 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop talking < 1314692169 257677 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean typing. < 1314692171 969750 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case no. < 1314693214 255726 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The new C++0x has various good new features like (vectors) ,new template, classes.etc" < 1314693222 624381 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm* < 1314693900 280699 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1314693903 902482 :CakeProphet!~adam@c-24-126-235-176.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314693903 984851 :CakeProphet!~adam@c-24-126-235-176.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1314693904 56077 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1314693928 419231 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solon Mebsuthnazom, ARmorer cancels Drink: Went insane < 1314694926 431558 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone was pretty happy and then all of a sudden some socially withdrawn guy went crazy and killed a bunch of people.. < 1314694940 950753 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now everyone is killing everyone and dying from disease. < 1314695023 946280 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: DF? < 1314695064 218785 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1314695758 457596 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think everyone is going to die because they're too stupid to move all the corpses out. < 1314695776 29645 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and making food again < 1314695824 701924 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :set one of them to haul refuse and expand your refuse pile if it's full? < 1314695835 771495 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one or a bunch < 1314695942 982334 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :....why do they always destroy the kitchen first when they freak out. < 1314695959 100686 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because what's not to hate about a kitchen < 1314696084 992663 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, I give up. < 1314696089 803005 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has all of 5 people.
< 1314696090 218394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314696240 332883 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-64-223-161-205.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1314699081 649517 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, df? < 1314699102 926660 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, also the key to running a successful fort is making a boring one. That is however boring. < 1314699176 785647 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1314699202 3011 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314699588 908884 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl, rebooting for kernel upgrade < 1314699594 607061 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1314699891 940947 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1314700083 700223 :itidus21!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1314700276 984296 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1314701893 939952 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1314704415 320767 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, pft, you have to reboot to upgrade your kernel? How... last-millennium < 1314704712 453379 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1314708366 912485 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal, pft, you have to reboot to upgrade your kernel? How... last-millennium <-- actually I used kexec < 1314708390 785361 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ksplice? < 1314708393 974246 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'mon < 1314708399 909936 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater, anyway, I build my own vanilla kernels. Doubtful ksplice could do 3.0 -> 3.0.4 anyway < 1314708523 392137 :PatashuXantheres!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 . < 1314708537 394761 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1314708565 553214 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1314708566 46073 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314708573 43839 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can ask one of the people who made ksplice < 1314708611 126501 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater, I don't really care < 1314708623 884791 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1314708626 695959 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are just mean. :(( < 1314708638 394940 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksplice is nice for HA systems obviously. But for my desktop? Nah, not worth the effort. < 1314708719 344367 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope one day linux will do ksplice like stuff by default < 1314708740 631282 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater, maybe, but ksplice won't work well when data structures change < 1314708797 238161 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater, so only really useful if you stay on some distro that does releases with long support. My desktop runs arch which is rolling release. < 1314709013 336594 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you migrate! < 1314709023 73337 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :data structures can often be migrated. < 1314709507 735726 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater, not easy when the memory subsystem is hauled over. < 1314709511 44320 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens < 1314709525 420169 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater, if it doesn't work between say 2.6.39 and 3.0 then it isn't worth it :P < 1314710443 350739 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kexec is still a reboot, as far as disrupting all running programs < 1314710469 2952 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just speeds the process by skipping BIOS etc. < 1314710481 620461 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i worked at ksplice until they got bought by oracle < 1314710542 650925 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no absolute sharp line on how big of a change you can or can't do < 1314710573 507403 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a matter of someone putting in the effort to read all those patches and make manual changes as appropriate < 1314710613 579560 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most security fixes require no changes because they're stupid things like "lol, wrote < instead of <=" < 1314710641 644331 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we shipped many patches that modified data structures, and had very few issues with it, but they do require extra effort from humans < 1314710686 235277 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksplicing from 3.0 to 3.0.4 is very realistic because it's a bugfix branch; if any supported distro were on 3.0 then ksplice would almost certainly ship those patches at some point < 1314710694 11522 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.6.39 to 3.0 would be a lot more work < 1314710715 711354 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now you know. < 1314710764 701160 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines the NBC music and logo
< 1314711176 741245 :itidus21!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au NICK :itidus20 < 1314711227 863812 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have finally watched all of the james may toy stories < 1314711609 598736 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the what now? < 1314711706 412855 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom linked me to one of them about a lego house when i mentioned something about lego < 1314712066 194168 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1314714115 961729 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314714192 592379 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ucfb.com/ < 1314714199 890870 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was at a university thing today. < 1314714219 7549 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These guys had a stall between Oxford and Strathclyde's. < 1314714280 154173 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314714289 291219 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi to all :) < 1314714295 224393 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1314714390 640929 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm new to esolanguages ;) < 1314714460 612883 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to an obsessive waste of years of your life 8-D < 1314714500 269318 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :) < 1314714533 482873 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm presice specifiation for my first esolang (interpretator will be in python ;)) < 1314714547 997622 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interpretator. < 1314714586 97544 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry english is not my native language :) < 1314714671 702245 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be have a very very simple multithreading and inspired by brainf**k < 1314714795 682414 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1314715075 961357 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314715094 582800 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : kexec is still a reboot, as far as disrupting all running programs <- indeed < 1314715152 477951 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :) hello world in 20+ lines < 1314715170 387879 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :marzin, what language < 1314715184 15178 :itidus21!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1314715191 232621 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my esolang :) < 1314715194 371301 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314715203 459341 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just ended writing hello world < 1314715209 367954 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1314715397 299074 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1314715673 456971 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314716145 491003 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the nonshittiest widget toolkit? < 1314716278 221873 :cheater!~ubuntu@ip-80-226-24-14.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wx < 1314716295 950665 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtk+ < 1314716297 799702 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1314716352 997022 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this depend of what language you want use and for what purpose < 1314716371 657911 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example you can't use a HAIKU-OS widgeds in Haskell < 1314716383 740211 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1314716498 223112 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't chosen a language yet, but let's assume it's whatever language you hate most (for all "you") < 1314716511 182169 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1314716530 384719 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1314716566 588960 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1314716570 244974 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I know < 1314716584 670825 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no widget tolkit exist for H9Q+ < 1314716587 260676 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1314716602 105003 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, definitely hate H9Q+ most too < 1314716615 604344 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1314716628 791766 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be a RAD IDE for HQ9+ < 1314716644 762635 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314716812 956866 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.text-upload.com/read.php?id=130118&c=9097873 < 1314716834 449642 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRYBIK v0.1 specifiaction :) maybe I write implementation in python < 1314716835 551452 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1314716891 323575 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally, your HQ9+ IDE should be in HQ9+ < 1314716933 316337 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. But this will be non-standard extension < 1314716939 96183 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1314716951 377196 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I command run a window with HQ9+ IDE :) < 1314717080 170066 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1314717221 890592 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw: I wonder if trybik is turing complete ;) < 1314717387 910604 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :marzin, "One disc when loaded into memory of trybik VM has a exactly 256 (0-255) cells." <-- can you have an unlimited number of discs in a program? < 1314717446 752743 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there is only a finite amount of memory that you can access it won't be turing complete < 1314717447 1480 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1314717450 48259 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1314717457 728500 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one must load next :) < 1314717466 843 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :marzin, from inside the program? < 1314717485 645218 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it for it special cell < 1314717508 546414 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :marzin, wait is a disc for the data of the program or for the code? < 1314717510 756765 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or both? < 1314717532 439962 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both thing are equal in it :) < 1314717593 345141 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thinking about implementation of turing m. in this way: < 1314717603 863205 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one disc work as "scanner" < 1314717627 394313 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :implement a TC language in it, if that is possible then it is also tc < 1314717643 317687 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and next discs as memory < 1314717666 653676 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be a like chain :) < 1314717703 297642 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: when I'm write implementation of it I will think about some tc language interpreter in it :) < 1314717710 65715 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm must go bye :) < 1314717712 899029 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1314718800 315636 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor, definitely hate H9Q+ most too < 1314718821 684718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HQ9+ is acceptable because it was an original idea at the time. < 1314718828 850618 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, dude read the context < 1314718851 514678 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not like you; I don't read lines in isolation. < 1314718860 733732 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can safely assume that I have read the context. < 1314718873 596359 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is still an open question whether you even understand concept. < 1314718877 619590 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*context < 1314718885 949478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, I'm getting words wrong all the time. < 1314718889 158401 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't hate HQ9+ < 1314718896 43617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect a lack of sleep. < 1314718925 157028 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, but it was about forcing Gregor to write whatever it was in HQ9+ < 1314719316 896013 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the WHAT. < 1314719323 823063 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Linux Skype client accepts s/// rewrites. < 1314719332 581130 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, err, where? < 1314719346 603802 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just made one in the chat side, and it edited my original message, and put a little pen icon with a "this message has been edited" popup to it. < 1314719346 850935 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I hope it is on the sound! < 1314719355 516085 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, awesome < 1314719373 846934 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I think it misparsed it, because I "s/,/./"'d, and the , turned to a \. < 1314719463 668660 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1314719464 812840 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "s/Foo/Bar/" worked. < 1314719474 575220 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect an escaping issue. < 1314719492 341302 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, strace it to see if it calls out to sed or perl or whatever < 1314719503 930771 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not right now, I'm in the middle of a call. < 1314719529 275703 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, google knew this btw < 1314719548 426283 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(google for "skype sed expressions" (without quotes)) < 1314719577 725942 :itidus21!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au NICK :itidus20 < 1314719588 883579 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it'd be a bit surprising if I would have been the first to notice. < 1314719598 715466 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now known as itidus20. < 1314719614 586667 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1314719615 561031 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20, and? < 1314719632 463948 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there's a proper UI for the editing/removal functionality too. < 1314719651 221869 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway the sed thing works on non-linux too it seems < 1314719651 686885 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1314719734 694481 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :buddha apparently advised not to speculatively delianate I as finite nor infinite, eternal nor not-eternal < 1314719738 684951 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, actually only on mac and linux it seems. < 1314719825 487552 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funnity. < 1314719904 993225 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyword being apparently < 1314720002 832846 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes more sense if seen with the keen reasoning of a mathematician < 1314720067 889112 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is not how i want to launch myself into the room < 1314720093 495794 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys, it's 2am.. my brother is asleep.. he works tomorrow.. i can't make coffee.. kettle too loud < 1314720110 750172 :itidus20!~itidus20@CPE-60-224-1-106.srql1.win.bigpond.net.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the difficult hours where i have to behave < 1314721503 610423 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1314722329 332274 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :quicksilwer < 1314722408 407096 :quicksilwer!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1314723186 57861 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, cd takes flags < 1314723191 921574 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in bash < 1314723200 380830 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in POSIX < 1314723672 343141 :variable!~thing@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Changing host < 1314723672 343274 :variable!~thing@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1314724875 393141 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say I want to make the Haskell with many extension of my ideas, but they don't like it because is insane and is worthless and so on... < 1314724910 736809 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But what if you want to use the insane version of Haskell?) < 1314725032 512845 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including more-notation, but also to rename the (#) kind to ## and the Nat kind to + < 1314725052 199539 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And adding a kind for classes, which you put the kind that the class corresponds to in square brackets. < 1314725159 736569 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now classes can have classes, too. < 1314725418 964057 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And macros at the level of tokens but that can still contain executable Haskell codes, and can even create Template Haskell splices to be used later < 1314725465 244698 :sliddy!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1314725495 727562 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1314725613 839306 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a {-# LAW #-} pragma that tells the optimizer to assume certain properties of the code such as monad laws or commutativity or whatever. And be able to generate this pragma using Template Haskell so that in an instance declaration you can just make it include the proper laws from elsewhere < 1314725692 638062 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is all of this insane? It doesn't matter much whether or not it is insane, I think, isn't it? < 1314725738 902917 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314726503 672113 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1314726614 939428 :CakeProphet!~adam@c-24-126-235-176.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314726615 11581 :CakeProphet!~adam@c-24-126-235-176.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1314726615 11698 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1314727310 651112 :chickenz!~zqck@163.5.174.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314728415 507988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1314728860 686380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:56:23: Has anyone read this before? http://www.springerlink.com/content/w7824830mp13171x/ < 1314728860 848284 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1314728860 920140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:56:47: !@#$ costing money < 1314728860 920280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:59:04: haha < 1314728860 920384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:59:08: <3 university < 1314728864 558814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Sgeo goes to uni- what am I saying. < 1314728875 516677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:07:02: Can't a human determine whether a program can halt? < 1314728875 780930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:07:09: Not whether it does. < 1314728875 853677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:07:12: But whether it can. < 1314728875 853749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:07:36: If so, is there an algorithm for that? < 1314728875 853792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no we can't. < 1314728903 476196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:12:36: coppro: Not really. A human's insight can often discern patterns that lead to discovery of the particular inputs for which the program does and does not halt. < 1314728903 644717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is not impossible to prove that a certain program halts, or a certain program does not halt. < 1314728916 419311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aren't you doing CS?) < 1314728942 93821 :chickenz!~zqck@163.5.174.17 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1314728983 174596 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314728995 530990 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :re to all ;) < 1314728998 773776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1314729227 791267 :marzin!5315215d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.21.33.93 QUIT :Client Quit < 1314729321 226446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314729337 817357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1314729375 817218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1314729528 269159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to make me a loyal customer, method 909: take my request to add features to work around my temporary lack of number keys seriously < 1314729653 761932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, somebody did? < 1314729681 268698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yep (duckduckgo, which I suspect you already know of) < 1314729692 369041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of it, but forgotten what it's for < 1314729733 747549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a search engine; IMO it has much more useful results than Google, and they don't do the personalisation Google does (they also say they don't log, which I'm inclined to believe, but of course it's hard to tell) < 1314729759 68275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also do a redirect thing to stop the referer to sites including your search query (but you can turn that off), which is nice < 1314729788 777834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right < 1314729802 927942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the redirect thing also collate which results people clicked on? Google does that on pretty much all its sites < 1314729825 90496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no; like I said, their mine marketing campaign is pretty much that they don't do any logging < 1314729838 922643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1314729855 448407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may look at them; ever since Wikia Search and Cuil went down, I've been left without a good search engine < 1314729858 249074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it's hard to prove that, but lying about that doesn't seem to fit with anything else they do < 1314729872 911352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikia Search I particularly liked because it tended to find relevant results that Google didn't < 1314729885 321687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reverse happened a lot more, ofc, but just having that happen at all is useful < 1314729929 639125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh, I suspect you might turn off one of my favourite aspects of it (if it can, it shows short summaries + links of relevant wikipedia articles at the top before the results, which I click on far more than the actual results; but I suspect you try Wikipedia first) < 1314729950 74598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, if I think it's at all likely to be there, I try it first < 1314729958 650411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I know another site that's more appropriate < 1314729961 548635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its calculator is better too (Wolfram Alpha rather than Google's inconsistent one) :P < 1314729969 713891 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :htis is true < 1314729978 536679 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with Google's? < 1314729985 975655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. [[Bulbasaur]] was (maybe still is) a featured article on Wikipedia, but I'd be more likely to look it up on Bulbapedia, Smogon or Veekun, depending on what information I needed < 1314729993 120045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: inconsistency: parenthesising an expression and building on top of its numeric result can just fail < 1314729999 364940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't like conversions being parenthesised, for instance < 1314730011 817894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes it just doesn't answer to a query for no reason, and if you change a few words or whatever it does < 1314730072 434305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not use a calculator as a calculator? < 1314730104 132985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because computers obsolete calculators? < 1314730115 269191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, I don't care about it being done over the internet < 1314730125 816084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be happy if Chrome just called up Frink if it thought I entered a calculation < 1314730151 365390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, calculator app on a computer, I consider to be a calculator < 1314730157 437508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but starting a calculator is more of a pain than opening a tab, and most application calculators don't let you use words instead of numbers :P < 1314730187 591140 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: boring? < 1314730189 744363 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way? < 1314730198 337548 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, ? < 1314730198 499617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if this were @, then I'd use a calculator program of some sort, because it'd be easy to call up; but making a search in Chrome is one of the fastest things I can do on my computer as it is, and one of the most general < 1314730204 225955 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, care to give some context < 1314730206 138009 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: df. forts. boring. < 1314730209 697733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and starting applications is much slower < 1314730211 931768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'd need to load Chrome first < 1314730217 593685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'd need to /install/ Chrome before that < 1314730220 221152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but I wouldn't :) < 1314730223 192691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have Chromium installed, but not Chrome) < 1314730239 37763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: amusingly, for simple calculations I often use echo $((1+1)) or whatever < 1314730242 868402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I /do/ normally have a terminal open < 1314730250 985606 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, ah. Well: wall the border of the entire map. always plug any caverns you run into and use fortifications to map out their extent, and avoid them. Stuff like that < 1314730255 105878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Chrome's address bar is basically a command-line these days, really < 1314730260 559886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, search engines are < 1314730266 73127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them aren't very good at it, though < 1314730271 665772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when I'm on my usual Konversation/Akregator/Firefox/Evolution setup that I use when generically online and not doing anything else < 1314730276 616643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's what Ubiquity was trying to get at < 1314730277 522877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's what I'm doing atm) < 1314730289 714581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: same; I'm not convinced that that's a bad idea < 1314730299 795673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I think there's a reasonably high chance that Mozilla will screw it up < 1314730304 332972 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, oh and traps. Lots of traps. < 1314730323 306751 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, with guard dog for the single entrance corridor. < 1314730326 942184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think Ubiquity is dead after Aza left < 1314730337 745881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: traps are practically cheating < 1314730348 11412 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh? < 1314730354 252113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I was meaning to ask: Unix users, what mail client do/MUA you use? (if it's Evolution, don't bother responding) < 1314730366 309240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering if it's feasible to switch away from gmail for my mail < 1314730374 340927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: they're incredibly overpowered < 1314730377 708326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: heh, I won't bother responding then < 1314730381 213324 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway I wasn't saying that it was a good idea. Just that such a fort survives well. < 1314730383 662293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, I despise Thunderbird < 1314730384 160028 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is quite boring < 1314730387 956417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes you will (you did) < 1314730398 111368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas I'm OK with evolution < 1314730401 312184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Evolution < 1314730406 342107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: IIRC traps' power is marked as a bug in the official tracker < 1314730411 648599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also tried using mail(1), but it's a little primitive < 1314730413 315123 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm, I was meaning to ask: Unix users, what mail client do/MUA you use? (if it's Evolution, don't bother responding) <-- for reading local reports from cron and so on? < 1314730415 961056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't remember liking Thunderbird, but maybe a user can convince me it got better < 1314730428 39764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ended up trying it again recently, it had got even worse < 1314730431 968932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what do you think? < 1314730440 503712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: presumably for over-Internet email < 1314730453 541791 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you run a local MTA? ;) < 1314730455 37160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Server-synchronisation features are desired, but I don't care whether it's Maildir over ssh or IMAP < 1314730457 346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wow, I didn't realise that that disambiguator would be ever needed again) < 1314730465 734559 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, for reading cron job reports I use alpine. I ended up using tunderbird for IMAP access to gmail. < 1314730469 166945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm fine running a separate daemon to synchronise it as long as it's easy to pull, preferably from within the client < 1314730482 610562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: clearly, it should be called imail < 1314730493 935523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: tunderbird < 1314730502 661189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tunderbird ar go < 1314730509 729911 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, "ar"? < 1314730512 271556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ar < 1314730516 181123 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314730519 614998 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :thunderbird* < 1314730525 411440 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that looks wrong too < 1314730527 47003 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :too sleepy < 1314730545 416871 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah whatever, modulo typos < 1314730579 756501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:32:55: What's even more odd is the class of programs that are designed not to halt. < 1314730580 60040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:33:08: Telephony systems, aircraft controllers, that sort of thing. < 1314730580 131912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are not designed to halt, but they are designed to be productive (technical term) < 1314730593 751377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, they're a transformation from codata to codata < 1314730628 464506 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are LOTS of such systems even outside such specialised applications < 1314730639 169099 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :operating systems, web servers, and so on < 1314730655 178810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes; nobody wants a non-halting program, really < 1314730660 119170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they want a non-halting, productive program < 1314730670 167524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are expressable in total languages < 1314730679 231616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although maybe not as easily as you'd like but that applies to existing total languages in general) < 1314730714 156391 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I would say everyone wants productive programs. Some may halt. For example: simulate the weather for the next 4 days, then output the result and halt < 1314730735 896685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I am sceptical you know the technical definition of productive < 1314730755 249905 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm indeed, I wasn't aware it had a technical definition. < 1314730758 448087 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what is it? < 1314730759 200559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, I don't know anywhere good to point you to learn it < 1314730761 382094 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that there's a technical definition of productive < 1314730817 486442 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so tell me what the technical definition is. < 1314730826 727703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a good teacher < 1314730856 49122 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, practise makes perfect < 1314730880 737172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not on you, it doesn't. < 1314730897 6677 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I meant for you to learn teaching < 1314730932 143045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not on you, it doesn't. < 1314730939 282266 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1314730982 818283 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, where did you learn that technical definition of "productive" < 1314731006 268737 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maaan, sound physics are terrible. < 1314731013 855642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall. Maybe some Coq thing. < 1314731031 18980 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1314731035 144969 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, amplitude drops off with 1/d^2, but because decibels are some kind of crazy human nonsense, they drop off with 1/d? What kind of nonsense is this? < 1314731048 239828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor learns "logarithms". < 1314731052 378754 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, dB are logarithmic < 1314731057 784822 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :is* < 1314731067 633055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor "Math is science, what are logarithms" Richards (family motto) < 1314731069 854544 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the confusing thing about dB is the human factor, not the math. < 1314731072 166173 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and snap, you beat me to it < 1314731080 751013 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, that is dBA isn't it? < 1314731082 331460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enemy of Opensourcia, motto "what is frp" < 1314731167 42145 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Human in the sense that the reason why decibels exist is to match some human understanding of sound. < 1314731193 39422 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I mean, the human-ear-compensated thingy is dBA iirc? While plain dB is the simple logarithmic scale. < 1314731205 780038 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, err, dB is used outside of sound. < 1314731223 867756 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example: signal and noise levels of wifi < 1314731234 954379 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strudle. < 1314731241 430411 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Strudel. < 1314731265 412950 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, how is that relevant? < 1314731271 50052 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Stru. < 1314731273 198026 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: del. < 1314731293 999251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: strudel < 1314731298 909107 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Strudel. < 1314731327 979718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:31:42: Hmm, I'm reading the C-- spec. So far I quite like it. < 1314731328 147665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:02:56: Seems a shame that C-- hasn't taken off like LLVM has. < 1314731328 219961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:03:21: With the exception of the Cmm used by GHC. < 1314731328 220101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-- is a dead project outside of GHC, which has its own dialect. < 1314731356 200663 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, decibels are defined without any reference to humans IIRC. < 1314731379 688435 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the definition is just a logarithmic scale of amplitude. < 1314731403 915169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1314731406 336553 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314731410 462006 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is transmitting power of wlan measured in dBm and not mW? In iwconfig output that is < 1314731420 930657 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Also you didn't answer my QUESTION < 1314731424 810301 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the question is, why do we need a logarithmic scale of amplitude? What was wrong with a linear scale? I know why pitch is logscale, and it's for strictly human reasons, even though the actual measure of pitch isn't human. < 1314731440 468232 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Strudel. < 1314731451 15650 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: THERE IS NO MUA CALLED STRUDEL < 1314731459 891958 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, dude, there are very good theoretical reasons for pitch to be logarithmic. < 1314731479 582258 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, make one < 1314731479 918088 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You... should know that. < 1314731497 85108 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'm not familiar with it, what is it? < 1314731503 863808 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Make one for me. < 1314731533 871079 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: If humans didn't hear sound how we did, science would be muddling along with a linear scale of frequency and still be able to understand resonance, harmonics, etc. < 1314731540 219942 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/did/do/ :P < 1314731574 320729 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, execute this in bash: echo $'#!/bin/sh\nexec mail' > strudel && chmod +x strudel < 1314731583 172119 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: not good client < 1314731583 256904 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, strudel 1.0 < 1314731588 978139 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, didn't say it was < 1314731598 384595 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: So what's this mua nonsense :P < 1314731600 635480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, sure, but we could never have defined any units other than the kilogram, second, kelvin, metre, ampere, mole and candela. < 1314731609 756976 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, elliott_ is looking for a MUA < 1314731611 722913 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1314731629 510737 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 18:52:34: hmm, I was meaning to ask: Unix users, what mail client do/MUA you use? (if it's Evolution, don't bother responding) < 1314731629 842417 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:52:46: I'm wondering if it's feasible to switch away from gmail for my mail < 1314731643 738380 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use thunderbird, and now elliott_ will complain about it. < 1314731645 832904 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, while thunderbird isn't perfect, it is okay. < 1314731655 682508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1314731681 996417 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, you mean a different mail provider than gmail? < 1314731683 650794 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Nope, I've so far just ignored people who say Thunderbird, because they need to convince me it didn't stop being crap in the past five years :) < 1314731698 930063 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I use gmail as my client. I can set up qmail myself, I just want to know what clients people use. < 1314731721 859235 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: It's hard to convince you of things if you're ignoring me :P < 1314731728 718868 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it's hard to convince of things anyway, but *eh* < 1314731735 456214 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, hm not sure what clients support maildir these days. Haven't been using qmail for quite a while < 1314731754 682087 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, you forgot the subject of that sentence < 1314731755 352180 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I can use IMAP, dude. < 1314731775 318439 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Subjects are for losers. < 1314731791 835636 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, right. For qmail, get netqmail iirc. To support SPF and such iirc. I think that was in the netqmail patch set. But it was years ago I used it. < 1314731793 752142 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can Thunderbird do GMail-style conversations? Oh, hmm, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gmail-conversation-view/ seems to be an extension for is. < 1314731796 36621 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for it. < 1314731806 719444 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, suffice it to say that physically-realistic reverberation is so terrible >_< < 1314731809 359131 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, as in you forgot "you" or "elliott" in that line. < 1314731811 558270 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My recollection of Thunderbird is basically "direct clone of Outlook Express and therefore just painful". < 1314731825 185129 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, as subjects are for losers. < 1314731833 792584 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1314731852 433398 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, it changed a bit. And it is quite a bit better than OE. < 1314731879 139677 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to try sup again, but I really dislike ncurses, and I don't know how maintained it is these days. < 1314731888 683951 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm surprised nobody's yelled about mutt being great yet.) < 1314731896 554265 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, give it a try for an hour or so, you can uninstall it and do rm -rf ~/.thunderbird if you didn't like it. < 1314731914 400551 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I used mutt in the past. I prefer alpine though. < 1314731934 437024 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I know I can; I'm just trying to prioritise through suggestions first. < 1314731951 99307 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, does kmail still exist? < 1314731972 203050 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, last I used it was during KDE 3. I have no idea how it changed since then. < 1314731985 133703 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Kontact now. < 1314731986 535838 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was okayish, better support for maildir and such than thunderbird iirc. < 1314731988 180148 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314731998 445748 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's more of a "contact suite" thing. It seems to be very KDE. < 1314732000 64597 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, sounds like an address book application < 1314732030 562158 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, Wikipedia says it's KMail + KAddressBook + KOrganizer + Akregator + KNode (Usenet). < 1314732039 294725 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it does look like you can start those separately. < 1314732054 330015 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/KDE4.2-KMail.png ;; yeah, I'll pass. I doubt it could possibly be better than Thunderbird. < 1314732077 820600 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :knode was terrible, I remember that < 1314732091 336063 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use Usenet, like everybody else. < 1314732105 41182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it, but generally just use Google Groups as I don't have a newsserver subscription < 1314732114 702777 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I stopped using it these days. < 1314732122 877538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it ought to be more popular among people who know what they're doing and less popular among people who don't < 1314732124 868044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would be great < 1314732125 282740 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad to see it die though < 1314732143 391677 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it died because it has no technological means to do that < 1314732144 584439 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you mean like before eternal september? < 1314732149 500635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes < 1314732154 600117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: heh, perhaps < 1314732157 922204 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which is the fate of pretty much every community nowadays < 1314732165 887337 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: except accelerated because now the internet is huge < 1314732177 307686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :communities ideally need to be moderately well known < 1314732181 195696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to stop that happening < 1314732184 940383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. idiots just haven't heard of them < 1314732186 680837 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, this channel, what about it? < 1314732202 644520 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: reddit seems like it'll probably last for ages and ages, but at a much lower quality than it started with; the voting system keeps spam and blatant trolls down to a minimum, but it also promotes hivemind thinking < 1314732209 775054 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Usenet had... nothing < 1314732220 607166 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except trying to cancel all spam posts, I guess? < 1314732223 896905 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it is possible to maintain small communities that work like that. But once it grows past a certain point it seems to break down. < 1314732228 656846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it had killfiles < 1314732237 768305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's entirely possible to have two independent communities in the same newsgroup as a result < 1314732255 813818 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that doesn't make it any easier to run a server with that high spam traffic; and how do you think killfiles would help if botnets were developed when spamming usenet was still relevant? < 1314732258 585160 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, did that ever happen? < 1314732264 170774 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: this channel is small < 1314732270 484656 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, yes < 1314732271 527814 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hopefully, it'll stay that way < 1314732287 97359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: oh, I was referring to humans not spambots < 1314732289 339002 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everyone here apart from Sgeo seems to be pretty good at selectively inviting people, if they do at all < 1314732300 494547 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, we need fizzie to make a graph of average number of people over time < 1314732305 740291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam's an independent problem < 1314732310 40566 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it would look like the graph of log size over time < 1314732314 587709 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. / < 1314732336 682099 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, doubtful. Some people idle, some speak more. < 1314732350 862438 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly that cancels each other < 1314732354 814217 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hm < 1314732378 722574 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, but hasn't it been pretty stable over the last year or so? Around 40-60 < 1314732387 610451 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn it, improving the realism of reverb just makes it sound terrible :P < 1314732400 944384 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who actually talks in here, though? (. to prevent annoying pings) o.erjan, me, ais, l.ymee, n.ooga, c.opumpkin, iti, PH, you, c.heater, S.geo, D.eewiant, o.lsner, s.hachaf, c.oppro, f.izzie, a.tehwa, q.uintopia, g.regor are the only people who have talked recently < 1314732405 137492 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, use an existing reverb implementation? < 1314732417 481448 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only nineteen people < 1314732426 446044 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job not highlighting me < 1314732428 487989 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An elite group. < 1314732431 848495 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314732433 655131 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Reverb implementations that do more than single reverberation or "ambient" (read: bullshit) reverb don't exist. < 1314732435 808045 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: heh, how did I manage to? < 1314732439 523924 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/don't exist/are hyper-expensive/ < 1314732443 838775 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well, that was a filtering of the people online now < 1314732443 921789 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also highlight on pumpkin < 1314732446 266251 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, more or less yeah. Plus that new user today. < 1314732446 938500 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's most of 'em < 1314732458 276883 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: but I said "opumpkin"! < 1314732465 847435 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh, I just got to them in the logs < 1314732477 659398 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I doubt they'll stay very long; people don't tend to < 1314732479 864022 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"O pumpkin my pumpkin" < 1314732491 616616 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:59:31: for example you can't use a HAIKU-OS widgeds in Haskell < 1314732491 781112 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a challenge? < 1314732498 634391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1314732500 795410 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is. < 1314732507 159581 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: but yeah, GTK, but don't even think about using it from C < 1314732513 614264 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: (Seriously, don't :P) < 1314732517 8831 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, not good at English, but a honest attempt at a new esolang. Inspired by brainfuck but not one of the simple substitution clones. < 1314732520 405134 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ((GObjects, man; GObjects.)) < 1314732523 188745 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should take a closer look at it < 1314732524 73376 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: the string pumpkin is good enough :P < 1314732538 545354 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Now all we need is a useful word with "pumpkin" in it, and we can annoy you all day. < 1314732543 748259 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: How about ... gcj gtk+ trololololol < 1314732548 235983 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, what was that new language gnome invented? Vala or something like that? < 1314732556 97660 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: For GTK, better than C. < 1314732563 982922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DPEMOFKOXM < 1314732565 377975 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Anything with any kind of objects or at least higher-order abstraction is better than C. < 1314732572 573729 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: (For GTK) < 1314732582 757963 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you don't have to write object system plugging code every line :P < 1314732583 876982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, let's define opumpkin to mean 'Brainfuck derivative'. < 1314732584 410395 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, you won't believe this, but GTK# from C# is quite nice compared to GTK from C. < 1314732591 252800 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Vala is pretty good, for glib and GTK :P < 1314732601 588359 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't write a program in it from scratch. < 1314732605 785572 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, ah < 1314732609 804105 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: If Gregor has ever used GTK from C, he will believe that. < 1314732611 432086 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, you coded in vala? < 1314732618 881505 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I wrote a hello world once :-P < 1314732629 631829 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, with "quite nice" I mean "actually usable" as well. < 1314732640 721429 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone *write* hello world? < 1314732646 233168 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:48:36: What the WHAT. < 1314732646 233345 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:48:43: The Linux Skype client accepts s/// rewrites. < 1314732646 319897 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:49:06: I just made one in the chat side, and it edited my original message, and put a little pen icon with a "this message has been edited" popup to it. < 1314732649 227448 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OMG. < 1314732655 229460 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I done it in befunge. Using t < 1314732657 839913 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I am going to make everyone I talk to switch to Skype now. < 1314732702 821230 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:55:38: fizzie, actually only on mac and linux it seems. < 1314732702 985590 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not. < 1314732731 227673 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though that post saying it didn't work on Windows is a year old, so maybe that's changed.) < 1314732736 834732 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, it works on windows? Or did you mean that you won't make people switch to skype? < 1314732745 501836 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:21:15: I say I want to make the Haskell with many extension of my ideas, but they don't like it because is insane and is worthless and so on... < 1314732745 751654 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:21:50: (But what if you want to use the insane version of Haskell?) < 1314732745 822954 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compelling < 1314732754 216773 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I meant if it doesn't work on Windows, then the reason no longer exists :P < 1314732759 610747 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because everyone uses Windows. < 1314732796 349778 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I would suspect this channel, and IRC in general, has a larger percentage of linux users than the overall in the world. < 1314732816 452804 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, obviously by "everyone I talk to" I mean "you bastards". < 1314732829 448284 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sad statement < 1314732834 693630 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, you have a life outside #esoteric and #haskell and so on? < 1314732837 719071 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1314732859 85200 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU MEAN BY LIFE < 1314732866 996518 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1314732955 804578 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely someone here uses a client that isn't Thunderbird. < 1314732960 597511 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Evolution shut up ais523. < 1314732961 502379 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH I KNOW < 1314732964 234355 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: WHAT MAIL CLIENT DO YOU USE < 1314732975 929705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I wouldn't even have noticed your comment if you didn't ping me < 1314732983 787002 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Predicting either "Outlook" or "mutt or something through putty". < 1314732993 466235 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ;__; < 1314733048 781592 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott | 641875 < 1314733051 694787 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a lot of lines < 1314733056 557740 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That few? < 1314733075 270135 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, with nick merging too < 1314733083 393584 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if elliott_ is merged into it though < 1314733092 824129 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a very good merging if it doesn't use prefixes. < 1314733100 409510 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott` too, after all. < 1314733148 94466 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do people even write ncurses applications that aren't roguelikes. < 1314733153 950601 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, yep it merged them < 1314733167 504989 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : nick | cnt < 1314733167 675674 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :------------------+-------- < 1314733167 747406 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott | 641875 < 1314733167 747477 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal | 276156 < 1314733167 747521 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523 | 136770 < 1314733168 110692 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan | 96917 < 1314733170 55334 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol | 92305 < 1314733177 360616 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1314733195 647390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: wow, have you really talked more than everyone else put together? < 1314733199 675423 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :then pikhq, gregor, sgeo, fizzie, Deewiant, Phantom_Hoover, cakeprophet < 1314733208 516 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I doubt put together. < 1314733212 486530 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that was just the top few lines. But let me sum the rest. < 1314733214 421618 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Take the cnt of every line? < 1314733224 117621 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then just take out my cnt. Uh, rephrase that. < 1314733230 201696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: are you merging, say, elliott_ and elliott? < 1314733234 319838 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Vorpal. < 1314733253 319927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I actually use ais523_ and ais523 for different purposes, even though they're both me) < 1314733259 582380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: WHAT MAIL CLIENT DO YOU USE <-- alpine < 1314733264 504670 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes < 1314733266 598756 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, I should have guessed < 1314733266 672838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(through putty) < 1314733275 751887 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and also ehird, tusho, and so on < 1314733286 808962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going further back, indeed < 1314733289 135738 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm selecting from a view with those merged < 1314733291 207217 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :arvid=> select SUM(x.cnt) from (select nick,COUNT(*) as cnt from irc.logs_na group by nick order by cnt desc) as x where x.nick != 'elliott'; < 1314733291 279480 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : sum < 1314733291 279740 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :--------- < 1314733291 279891 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1860488 < 1314733291 279996 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1 row) < 1314733298 247031 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: bad < 1314733301 731110 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: or is that nomralised < 1314733302 901273 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normalised < 1314733304 644609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so elliott's responsible fore about a third of the conversation in here < 1314733316 571142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, excluding elliott, so a quarter < 1314733318 553907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for < 1314733320 420276 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, logs_na is a merged view < 1314733329 120646 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: over all time, not just the time I've been here, presumably < 1314733338 719460 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really talk THAT much, I just merge lines less :P < 1314733351 295182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, perhaps < 1314733355 431885 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, indeed. Give me the date when you joined < 1314733366 602237 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait I can find that < 1314733370 768632 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: do you mean first joined, or first joined and started talking? < 1314733373 601608 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two thousand and six, for the former < 1314733377 896171 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometime in two thousand and seven for the latter < 1314733384 176141 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just write my own mail cli- NO < 1314733421 846844 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :arvid=> select * from irc.logs_na where nick = 'elliott' ORDER BY serial LIMIT 1; < 1314733422 12928 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : serial | tstamp | nick | target | uhost | type | body < 1314733422 84668 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :--------+---------------------+---------+--------+--------------------------------------------+------+------ < 1314733422 84822 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : 208001 | 2006-12-29 21:42:41 | elliott | | n=ehird@user-5440e204.wfd80a.dsl.pol.co.uk | 3 | < 1314733433 602303 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314733440 296368 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, but sure, let me select the first line you spoke in < 1314733465 13600 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :> select * from irc.logs_na where nick = 'elliott' and type = 0 ORDER BY serial LIMIT 1; < 1314733465 85864 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : serial | tstamp | nick | target | uhost | type | body < 1314733465 181179 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :--------+---------------------+---------+--------+-------+------+--------------------------------------------------------- < 1314733465 252920 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : 271395 | 2007-05-14 17:49:00 | elliott | | | 0 | i honestly think my language may be worse than malbolge < 1314733465 668413 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `where' < 1314733466 765496 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1314733472 279905 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a terrible language btw < 1314733474 884901 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what, didn't you speak a single time? < 1314733485 346611 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, which language was it? < 1314733489 229265 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in 2006, I think I got too intimidated by the silence and long user list and left < 1314733495 37009 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: never named, never worked, almost certainly not TC < 1314733505 869858 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what pol.co.uk is
< 1314733509 160230 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe tiscali < 1314733511 134562 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :select SUM(x.cnt) from (select nick,COUNT(*) as cnt from irc.logs_na where serial >= 271395 group by nick order by cnt desc) as x where x.nick != 'elliott'; < 1314733513 342375 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there we go < 1314733514 834322 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets see < 1314733536 353017 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :1589097 lines that you didn't say since then < 1314733556 890858 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1314733579 356540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/ehird.pl and http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/ehird.py ? >:) < 1314733595 567652 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, that was a good language < 1314733614 265976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1314733623 660671 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: EXCUSE ME :P < 1314733624 598819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :approximately the same time, though < 1314733632 772094 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, same YEAR, sure. < 1314733650 63086 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007-05-30.txt:00:22:26: anyway what i did do is at http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/ehird.pl < 1314733655 747385 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK fair enough. < 1314733669 157255 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does this thing do? < 1314733692 553726 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's a broken piece of crap. < 1314733732 308602 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.py works < 1314733736 798084 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it doesn't do escapes, I think < 1314733741 239768 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hmm < 1314733742 152759 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does < 1314733745 458432 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ebcause python's re language accepts \n < 1314733749 8084 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1314733754 728006 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but oerjan doesn't fix escapes in the replacement < 1314733756 533744 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no, it doesn't work < 1314733761 904643 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's close < 1314733762 897935 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :641872/1589097 = .4039224792 < 1314733763 726270 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1314733780 516422 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that was _without_ < 1314733784 558218 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to add the numerator back on < 1314733789 39751 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, err oh yeah < 1314733801 984616 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :.2877099592 < 1314733809 554567 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, still a sizable proportion < 1314733816 801410 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, qmail users: what's them good things for synchronising maildirs or imap < 1314733832 616808 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, also wait, this is broken. It contains joins and parts too < 1314733834 63073 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me fix < 1314733866 908879 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh dear, Thunderbird is three major versions ahead of my repository version < 1314733873 522735 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1314733888 442259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it has Firefox syndrome, for the same reason Firefox does, right? < 1314733897 370146 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an official PPA, it seems < 1314733908 10738 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes; personally, I'm sceptical of the value of releases as a concept altogether < 1314733916 14173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that reminds me, is there a sane way to run gnome 3 programs on gnome 2? < 1314733934 752735 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :633741 / (1410147+633741) = .3100664028 < 1314733936 450461 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: compile them, then run them; but why not use gnome 3 + metacity + gnome-panel instead? < 1314733937 788154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to install gnome 3, but am wondering if there's just a library I can install or something < 1314733938 384970 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, that is more accurate < 1314733943 220639 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easier, and catches gtk 3 changes < 1314733949 859256 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is basically identical, I gather < 1314733959 10012 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I included joins and parts above, see revised numbers < 1314733964 993944 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joins and parts should be excluded < 1314733968 281492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: because I don't want to upgrade the system right now, and am trying to run the latest version of one gnome 3 version to see if bugs in it have been fixed < 1314733970 712811 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just messages and /mes < 1314733972 105722 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't content < 1314733975 491749 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, yep I fixed it < 1314733979 763234 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: try and compile it; with any luck it'll work < 1314733981 582955 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh < 1314733983 890565 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you spoke ~31% of the lines < 1314733988 723714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I did, it said I didn't have gnome 3 installed < 1314733994 470828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try again to get the exact message < 1314733994 543257 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, there's an official ppa for thunderbird < 1314734004 378882 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's likely wanting gtk three < 1314734008 723822 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, gnome 3 itself is a bug. < 1314734015 572915 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: -one, troll < 1314734017 700040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i vaguely thought i changed to python because it's re.sub _did_ allow escapes to work in the right places. but whatever. < 1314734017 770672 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, I saw somewhere that Torvalds said that too < 1314734025 807352 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, but it won't replace in the _replacement_ string < 1314734033 679047 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: -3, appeal to authority < 1314734058 376238 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I wasn't doing that. I was mentioning it. I was not saying that made it right < 1314734074 594430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: well if you are sure of that. < 1314734092 585527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been > 4 years < 1314734097 690566 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, anyway gnome 3 is horrible. Have you tried it? And not that unity stuff of ubuntu < 1314734098 182461 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: >>> re.sub('abc', '\\n', 'abc') < 1314734098 349690 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'\n' < 1314734098 431792 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> print re.sub('abc', '\\n', 'abc') < 1314734098 503913 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> < 1314734099 95750 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1314734099 927093 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1314734127 680779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No package 'gtk+-3.0' found < 1314734130 333639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's GTK it needs < 1314734133 92167 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: -4, ais523 has a problem that I am trying to help it with, butting in with your opinion on GNOME 3 is not really helpful < 1314734135 184079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and GTK 3 isn't in the repositories < 1314734139 494184 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if it's a different package, it might be a different .so too < 1314734144 473379 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so you might be able to install gtk3 yourself < 1314734148 260080 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without causing conflicts < 1314734151 638768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1314734154 45662 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what program is it? < 1314734160 265129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnibbles < 1314734162 655738 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, -5 I don't care about your score system. < 1314734175 276470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it somehow managed to reintroduce bugs that I fixed myself (and sent them patches for which they accepted and it worked in the past) < 1314734178 255139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make them even worse, somehow < 1314734180 388206 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: looks like Oneiric has gtk 3, at least < 1314734189 484222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I want to know if they've fixed them, and if not patch them again < 1314734195 349480 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: -infinity, it's not mine, so shut up < 1314734198 746511 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you could install gnome 3 elsewhere btw. And use -rpath or such < 1314734209 858984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: what's Oneiric? < 1314734210 808929 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, why are you using it then < 1314734214 846618 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: -nullity, I just suggested that, except only the dependency he actually needs < 1314734219 739554 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ubuntu < 1314734226 703017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c print "\\n" < 1314734231 960644 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :File "", line 1 \ print "\\n" \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1314734235 38406 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's re that does it < 1314734236 347146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c print "\\n" < 1314734238 565002 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1314734240 973868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: perhaps it's because I'm on an LTS version < 1314734242 725190 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not print < 1314734242 987594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a PPA < 1314734245 665643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1314734252 805873 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm telling you to just nab the package from the upcoming 11.10 < 1314734253 219178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait duh < 1314734256 674132 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it's already in there < 1314734259 144933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c print '"\\n"' < 1314734260 977421 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1314734266 883643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1314734269 876201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: oh, you mean just grab the .deb and install by hand? < 1314734273 784658 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314734286 471550 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1314734291 863865 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (or fiddle with apt's exclusion stuff but meh) < 1314734299 547215 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easier than compiling, at least, and more reversible than make install < 1314734299 628493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i'm just not sure what that '\n' you had above means < 1314734307 826418 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It was '\\n', not '\n'. < 1314734309 803345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it backslash + n or a newline < 1314734313 329403 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I printed it for a reason < 1314734317 980987 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to show that it got turned into \n < 1314734320 635112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: the printed result < 1314734321 835000 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. deescaped < 1314734324 273444 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh my god < 1314734327 441365 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: >>> re.sub('abc', '\\n', 'abc') < 1314734327 524646 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\n' < 1314734327 607780 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : >>> print re.sub('abc', '\\n', 'abc') < 1314734327 679434 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : >>> < 1314734334 13477 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was backslash then n, it would be printed like that < 1314734349 471937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh k < 1314734392 456720 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember Window Maker? < 1314734396 720995 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever happened to it < 1314734398 900339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does not have enough memory for all umpteen escaping conventions
< 1314734399 975562 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it exists < 1314734412 814581 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :last release 6 years ago < 1314734413 712394 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1314734415 752266 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well obviously if I input as '\\n' and it's REPL'd as '\n' something changed < 1314734433 632126 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: WM (git) snapshot We do not provide our own binary packages. However, third partiessometimes make them available. < 1314734438 459364 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Revision by John H. Robinson, IV, 2011-08-17 < 1314734448 798946 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://repo.or.cz/w/wmaker-crm.git < 1314734452 882729 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314734463 116797 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I like that word "partiessometimes" < 1314734467 816986 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://repo.or.cz/w/wmaker-crm.git/shortlog looks actively developed < 1314734534 5934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I had a crazy dream last night < 1314734544 255168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dreamt I was reading a book about Objective-C, to try to learn Objective-C < 1314734557 448397 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quality issues < 1314734557 530810 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be possible and appropriate to mention politely somewhere that Window Maker is pretty outdated and generally rubbish? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.203.82.226 (talk) 13:50, 21 July 2011 (UTC) < 1314734560 250435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realised I was dreaming when the book reached the end of my knowledge of Objective-C, and would have to explain something to me that I didn't already know < 1314734567 739360 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1314734594 560332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it turned out to be a recursive dream, and I merely dreamt I'd woken up rather than actually waking up < 1314734630 197551 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, heh, I never had a recursive dream that I remembered < 1314734641 989504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had quite a lot < 1314734647 399026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't like his recursive dreams
< 1314734648 364714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally after waking up the first time, it's just annoying < 1314734653 348725 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh? < 1314734660 106787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you go through the normal just-after-waking-up routine and nothing's unusual < 1314734666 809136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you wake up and have to do it all again < 1314734682 659310 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, start by reading some text, turning away and trying to read it again. Every time you wake up. < 1314734694 264791 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :should speed up the process < 1314734702 836460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to dream i'm in my childhood home, and then dream that i wake up sad in my apartment. and then i wake up for real, still sad. < 1314734703 431195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it hasn't happened for years < 1314734707 163457 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314734716 477264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has been my first recursive dream for ages < 1314734718 133331 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ouch < 1314734729 197177 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :{ < 1314734747 183389 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you need to get a nicer apartment then. So you get a nice surprise when you wake up the second time < 1314734770 392117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DON'T SAY < 1314734978 131587 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had that, although a few times I've been lying in bed completely convinced that I'm in another house. < 1314735006 858335 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm scared of trying out Thunderbird because my gmail is so huge < 1314735014 765638 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I tell it to pretend I created my gmail ten days ago :D < 1314735027 63220 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, only 1171 megs used... still a lot to download < 1314735085 629009 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, you need to enable sync for it to do that. Right click on a folder and select properties or something < 1314735093 483064 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and select available when offline < 1314735107 654172 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, if you don't do that it won't download more than the index and the mails you open < 1314735113 416220 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you use IMAP and not POP < 1314735125 364274 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :index is still pretty big :P < 1314735143 380146 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, not near 1171 MB though. < 1314735144 814888 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, thunderbird deduces the configuration from my email < 1314735158 800472 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, yes it does that nowdays. < 1314735168 963609 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a handful of providers < 1314735198 725437 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, remember to enable IMAP in the gmail preferences too < 1314735220 531904 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :already did that years ago < 1314735234 896463 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314735520 845893 :CakeProphet!~adam@h42.33.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314735520 958825 :CakeProphet!~adam@h42.33.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1314735520 958972 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1314735611 254092 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: productivity, in management lingo, is the relationship between the completion of a task/production and time. < 1314735623 218550 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that count as a technical definition? < 1314735692 52343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats CakeProphet -----###
< 1314735694 52594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1314735726 370882 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.179.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314735739 788051 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h42.33.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1314735764 744173 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what is the technical definition < 1314735771 688331 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I don't know it, but would like to know. < 1314735776 710449 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wouldn't tell me < 1314735808 116132 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it seems only he and you know this technical definition so far. < 1314735843 910307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well afaik productivity of codata means that you're guaranteed to evaluate to a constructor in finite time, this should be clear enough if you understand haskell's laziness < 1314735869 962313 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah. < 1314735873 792669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can have an infinite list as codata, but you can get at each element in finite time < 1314735937 416507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is my intuition, not the technical definition, which i may not even have read :P < 1314735976 496397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in contrast, for data, you must be able to evaluate the _entire_ structure in finite time. < 1314735980 200193 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.179.80 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1314736008 296280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this applies to terminating languages, haskell of course has no scruples with never halting) < 1314736015 984259 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, thunderbird conversations has some flaws < 1314736047 850397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use proper quoting in the actual emails, then you don't even need threading < 1314736053 773031 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.179.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314736070 641863 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I vastly prefer flat threading over any other kind of organisation < 1314736105 213872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing i'm still not clear about is what happens if you have interleaving of data and codata constructors. < 1314736113 698203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: as in, sorting emails by which email that wasn't a reply to anything they're an indirect reply to? < 1314736134 460581 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do the normal threading algorithm, then collapse it to a single level of hierarchy, ordering by date on the rest :P < 1314736137 266789 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: algorithm is inefficient) < 1314736178 312796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that in my case, chronological order of emails is often more important than context (which should be in the email already) < 1314736188 710599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to have all the new emails sorted to the bottom, no matter what conversation they're part of < 1314736215 299195 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thunderbird stop downloading all my agora mail... < 1314736218 477439 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: me too < 1314736224 194258 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's why you sort conversations by date of last message < 1314736234 547358 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and read messages are collapsed by default < 1314736234 619181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if the most recent conversation is a really long one? < 1314736247 158673 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5 < 1314736248 392561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "collapsed"? < 1314736267 117369 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm assuming Evolution has a litany of flaws which I've never noticed? < 1314736273 30095 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: reduced to a byline + date; often elided entirely and replaced by a UI element that, when clicked, expands (in the case of tons of conversations) < 1314736274 157933 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1314736276 58811 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: reduced to a byline + date; often elided entirely and replaced by a UI element that, when clicked, expands (in the case of tons of messages) < 1314736282 297338 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(usually all but the first few and last few) < 1314736289 738557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: oh, that's the state I have emails in normally < 1314736304 335986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even so, I'd imagine a thousand-email thread would scroll other emails off the top of the screen easily < 1314736306 162773 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: uh, have you ever used gmail? :P < 1314736307 408208 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: except you don't see the conversation < 1314736309 452359 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: no < 1314736316 528151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: no, I haven't < 1314736330 579140 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well, it does something similar to what you guys are talking about I believe. < 1314736337 493681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only webmail I've used are Outlook Web Access, roundcube, and Yahoo! Mail Classic < 1314736354 744142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which all use the sane method of one pane for the email you're looking at, and one that's just subjects/senders/etc < 1314736363 213904 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i'm describing gmail's behaviour to ais523 < 1314736369 233508 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that new conversations appear at the top (but each email is at the bottom of its conversation) < 1314736371 390845 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, no, that isn't the state you have emails in normally < 1314736374 721557 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: oh okay. < 1314736402 609135 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that not like... the default behavior nowadays? < 1314736406 220690 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :have I been spoiled? < 1314736414 134637 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe I'll switch to nmh < 1314736417 278940 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1314736456 57679 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds gmails behavior to be preferred to single email lists.
< 1314736539 461053 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: also my fortress died. < 1314736576 989397 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: I heard; we told you you're stupid in -minecraft and gave you a bunch of pointers. < 1314736579 414950 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the log < 1314736589 15802 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :one guy "withdrew from society" and then later went crazy and killed like 6 people with a bronze battle axe. Seemed to happen as soon as I started furnishing weapons. < 1314736594 556649 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : CakeProphet: I heard; we told you you're stupid in -minecraft and gave you a bunch of pointers. < 1314736594 638560 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Read the log < 1314736595 577369 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, you have felt the sting of the tantrum spiral. < 1314736603 739191 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.179.80 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1314736605 425476 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Strange_mood < 1314736606 662651 :CakeProp1et!~adam@h42.33.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PART :#esoteric < 1314736613 738046 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did not account for the strange mood's wishes, so they went berserk < 1314736616 295387 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you had no military to stop him < 1314736618 874824 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you went into a tantrum spiral < 1314736621 175986 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the end < 1314736628 21380 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had /some/ military < 1314736631 574465 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough < 1314736631 740092 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but by then they were tantrumming < 1314736639 976783 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Protip: If you can't account for their wishes, just wall-in their workshop < 1314736644 44820 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll just go insane in their own little hole < 1314736644 791928 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, that he had an axe was a rather crippling oversight. < 1314736651 945717 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Strange_mood http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Strange_mood http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Strange_mood http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Strange_mood < 1314736661 363007 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever a weird message comes up just google it :P < 1314736673 184925 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: good call :P < 1314736679 14792 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :df: meant to played with google < 1314736681 157955 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was playing offline < 1314736689 409942 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You... won't survive without the wiki. < 1314736705 298747 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like NetHack where it's orders of magnitude harder; even the DF help system points you to the wiki. < 1314736718 707844 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my workshops were all kind of directly connected to one another in a giant room < 1314736722 303750 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a bit workshop room... < 1314736727 970527 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no walling in. < 1314736746 244854 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: It's... not hard wall someone in. < 1314736754 536501 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just draw a square around their room. < 1314736760 55758 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll easily complete before they go berserk. < 1314736761 297367 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't assign rooms. < 1314736778 596140 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Their workshop room, FFS. < 1314736783 800235 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the wiki; strange mooders claim a workshop. < 1314736797 324791 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, that's not going to be a good idea if they're in a forge. < 1314736809 388382 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Better than a tantrum spiral. < 1314736821 740733 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: oh okay. I dealt with one of those but I didn't think the other guy claimed a workshop < 1314736840 62397 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he withdrew from society, he did. < 1314736844 221394 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay. < 1314736865 851025 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how he got the bronze axe... < 1314736869 770756 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I had any bronze < 1314736871 342737 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, nope. < 1314736881 428036 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they don't have the right workshop, they won't claim one. < 1314736885 147016 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh. < 1314736888 132239 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'll still go insane. < 1314736894 393603 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Do they just wander around until they kill everyone? < 1314736902 914384 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, I assume he picked it up for some reason. < 1314736909 259482 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was he near your weapons stockpiles? < 1314736929 692684 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh it took me a while to realize what was happening so I didn't really pay much attention until there were already bloody corpses. < 1314736946 732090 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's your own damn fault. :p < 1314736988 550849 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my own inexperience, perhaps. < 1314737004 823075 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case I don't have the time to invest into another game atm < 1314737016 938342 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I did enjoy it. < 1314737030 365001 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game I'm brainstorming is quite different in style though. < 1314737038 463141 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a game if you die before you get set up. That's like getting mauled on the first level of NetHack and calling it a day. < 1314737053 392195 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: real life. < 1314737062 223333 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will play later. < 1314737069 169249 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOOOOOOSEEEEER < 1314737076 193803 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: that's how I play nethack, every time < 1314737123 425726 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: also when building workships would be better to give each of them individual rooms with furniture and stuff? < 1314737126 385017 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it matter> < 1314737156 764059 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: You... don't put furniture in workshops, as far as I know. < 1314737158 542532 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't realize until halfway through this his officers wanted a bed. >_>
< 1314737167 409422 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Dude, I told you to make bedrooms for everyone. < 1314737176 275647 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made plenty of bedrooms < 1314737183 167982 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't designate them to anyone. < 1314737183 743633 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough for everyone, evidently. < 1314737187 944545 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: They automatically designate. < 1314737192 71886 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to use q to make the beds a room. < 1314737195 949880 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they self-designate. < 1314737197 494916 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I did. < 1314737212 277671 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah I had a population of like 57, definitely didn't have enough rooms. < 1314737220 640557 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or beds for that matter. < 1314737224 984416 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with multiple beds in each room. < 1314737246 831479 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was one of the things that brought down Handlekindled. < 1314737263 442847 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but dude my dining hall was bitchin. 2 long tables with 2 kitchens and ENGRAVED AND DETAILS WALLS/FLOORS < 1314737266 654385 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's right. < 1314737269 554952 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1314737275 392578 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not... really. < 1314737281 561187 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Our dorfs were ecstatic beforehand. < 1314737290 487470 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bedrooms wouldn't soften the blow of having nothing to eat or drink. < 1314737297 919500 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_ was too lazy to keep up room expansion, so by the time Taneb and I took over neither of us could be bothered to fix it. < 1314737306 229624 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but everybody was still really happy. < 1314737307 211842 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people were actually partying before the woodcutter guy went crazy. < 1314737314 191093 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I was doing well until that point. < 1314737316 194130 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Partying happens constantly. < 1314737324 796019 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, FFS, the point is that it buffers the unhappiness. < 1314737337 382308 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Handlekindled was waaay too far gone for that, really. < 1314737360 952785 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, there was a lack of food and drink. That's not unrecoverable. < 1314737364 755829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tantrum spiral... is. < 1314737381 1171 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tantrum spiral occurred because we flailed around trying to fix that without doing what we had to do. < 1314737383 243328 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. resizing the farm. < 1314737390 11365 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had they all had high-quality rooms, the spiral would have set in significantly later. < 1314737397 626830 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the problem was *not* farm size. < 1314737400 126149 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, high quality, OK. < 1314737403 572109 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What /was/ it then? < 1314737413 696822 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I had just got a massive farm working when mine happened. < 1314737429 751043 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was still working on the hospital though... bad timing. :P
< 1314737434 617457 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fortress of 200 can be more than fed by 2 5x5 plots, one of which produces food only ¼ of the year. < 1314737437 609298 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the military stuff. < 1314737442 282573 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I don't know, but it wasn't that. < 1314737446 997059 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Your farm... shouldn't be big. < 1314737452 147270 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, OK. < 1314737456 887231 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: why is that? < 1314737466 620911 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Let's find out that CakeProphet has filled a whole level with farm and everything was going to break anyway. < 1314737479 769652 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very large room in one level, yes. < 1314737481 901587 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK, I'm going by the word of that one guy on IRC, but a large farm is totally unnecessary, so.) < 1314737488 223262 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Don't do that. < 1314737504 403746 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :por que? < 1314737518 282373 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: It might have bad effects, and it's definitely utterly unnecessary. < 1314737518 364307 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarves don't like hording large amounts of food? < 1314737520 808325 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, it's Bad, apparently. < 1314737522 452314 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only need two tiny plots. < 1314737525 372698 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1314737536 187049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plots grow more if you grow the same crop consecutively. < 1314737556 504474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A huge plot will have far fewer plots growing over multiple seasons. < 1314737564 415206 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then... 4-5 small plots over time? < 1314737569 694341 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :one for each plant? < 1314737581 747615 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as season permits) < 1314737599 448132 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the long-term that is. < 1314737617 526540 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went for 5x5 plump helmet, 5x5 plump helmet/sweet pot/cave wheat/pig tail. < 1314737651 351294 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what about doing 25 1x1 instead? < 1314737669 837016 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, that would work if you want RSI, I suppose. < 1314737676 946422 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, macros < 1314737709 562588 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but it's still pointlessly tedious. < 1314737709 957657 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: this game seems built for RST :P < 1314737716 641177 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1314737717 969202 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1314737729 814960 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, well yes. < 1314737756 945007 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think df with an isomeric map view and a better interface would work well. < 1314737777 212545 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :err isometric* < 1314737797 192829 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DF's interface is fine, modulo some nested menus, and labours. < 1314737843 332740 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I actually would be better with a english-word based command interface < 1314737849 936444 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as memorizing commands. < 1314737856 619913 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1314737858 113065 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1314737888 694667 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, yeah assigning jobs is horrible. I use dwarftherapist for that. Starting the game in wine after each time I get a wave of immigrants to assign jobs. Then going back to native linux version. < 1314737893 796828 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: That would definitely give you RSI. < 1314737898 125483 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also terminal boredom. < 1314737906 160221 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Uh, why WINE? < 1314737910 558260 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: DT works on Linux, you idiot. < 1314737916 316557 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, because dwarftherapist does not work on linux < 1314737918 969519 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it does. < 1314737922 154065 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It needs root for me though; works for Phantom_Hoover without. < 1314737922 995968 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, that is new then < 1314737935 423539 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: most of my time was spent tripping through menus awkwardly. < 1314737938 475460 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No it isn't. < 1314737941 992296 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, last I checked I had to run it under wine < 1314737963 316306 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, last I checked = maybe a year ago < 1314737973 871466 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just played it on linux.
< 1314737980 84925 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: DT, not DF. < 1314737984 221307 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's been maintained since last September. < 1314737991 334805 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(DwarfTheRapist) < 1314737998 156640 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, hm < 1314738110 1594 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is so leet he doesn't programs that make his life easier.
< 1314738113 872566 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :+need < 1314738120 595093 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need verbs either. < 1314738124 343147 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck em. < 1314738145 437216 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verbs, who needs them. < 1314738169 660203 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: It's not about maknig your life easier, it's about assigning labours in spreadsheet style rather than individually going through every single dorf in your fortress (which will number about one hundred) just to find out who's any good at mining and assigning that labour with the awful menu. < 1314738195 77142 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, text-only image macro maker < 1314738197 773644 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you think DF's main challenge is menu navigation, it isn't about hardcoreness at all. < 1314738212 296932 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I believe what you just said is equivalent to "making your life easier" < 1314738217 550642 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, more like 150 than 100 < 1314738244 410250 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: No, making your life easier would be something that did something actually game-relevant. < 1314738254 882189 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, it's not making your life easier, it's making it bearable. < 1314738264 200226 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Games aren't designed with deliberately terrible menu systems to give them additional difficulty. < 1314738270 549517 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's ridiculous. < 1314738290 799214 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, I think we are nitpicking here. < 1314738329 735248 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1314738551 723219 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1314738621 63282 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I love you. < 1314738621 884187 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: " exactly," i ventured, " but you, randolph carter, of boston on the earth or other planets where they traded. these creatures, in numbers apparently inexhaustible, were engaged in one stupendous migration from inconceivable heights to some depth conceivably or inconceivably below. < 1314738632 22215 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314738632 651230 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft* nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314738655 475460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Can that sword alone stop? < 1314738664 79974 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I suppose so. Can't anything happen? < 1314738674 449363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so according to proggit, a root CA gave someone other than Google a wildcard cert for *.google.com < 1314738679 879282 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, isn't Cleverbot silly? < 1314738680 470925 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i must ponder this turn of events, it can have a powerful effect on time. ask the one to bring back lost loved ones... it's what that guy in medina, a village near the mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes. no. < 1314738693 168622 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, have you finished pondering? < 1314738693 820976 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! eat! fun! < 1314738703 972337 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, oh no, not more death threats. < 1314738704 308909 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out?! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's the kind! i've decided to stay with these humans! you're a traitor! you're not our king! but, we are far out < 1314738712 584773 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :got fun, fungot? < 1314738712 922292 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped! destroy bad man! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call that the chrono trigger. it is r66-y? cool? who knows what would become of my mystics? i must win! < 1314738715 313942 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, I don't believe in clones. < 1314738715 836667 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: we are looking, but well behaved! crono!! i owe you one! you saved the day of lavos"... go to " leene square" 1000 a.d.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314738740 489152 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, but anyway, can that sword alone stop? < 1314738740 828290 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: we must do it to save you! who the heck are you?! c'mon!! < 1314738756 905557 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, first you're threatening to kill me, then you're saving me? < 1314738757 266494 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! < 1314738904 570373 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, oh that sword < 1314738904 737749 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i shall help also. up down cancel left lab area right factory area caution! do not turn, now! oppose me, you...foreigners! you're worse than the gurus and miss you. < 1314738910 547365 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, no? < 1314738910 715189 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i shall help also. let us return in time! it's a moonlight parade! this must be the invention. hope it still leaves you hungry! here you are the only one thing we need to defeat you, lavos. < 1314738924 203074 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, yes, yes, but what about that sword? < 1314738924 276016 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! < 1314738941 149531 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, stop annoying me < 1314738941 316244 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: cyrus! are you leaving! < 1314738941 678889 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1314739050 234585 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What can that sword alone not stop? < 1314739050 729400 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: cyrus! are you leaving! < 1314739054 76509 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Yes. < 1314739054 653489 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: by thy leave, crono?!! you brought back my cat! thank you, crono! < 1314739058 920238 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm the best. < 1314739059 484013 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: but, we are far outnumbered! how can i do for you? thanks! it's about the missing queen. she still looks so much like leene, that they will take you to your place of execution?! strange, but!? < 1314739068 224337 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You can do for me by saying that thing. < 1314739074 191909 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you < 1314739173 972298 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also apparently I shouldn't give soldiers food because they will get interrupted while eating and it will cause miasma as no one else can access it at that point. < 1314739204 803779 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, well? < 1314739204 893840 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: time to shove off! the name's bandeau. here to build the ocean palace? < 1314739211 310210 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :might have been what happened with the miasma after my spiral. guys goes crazy, interrupts people eating in kitchen, and then corpses and rotting food = miasma < 1314739219 378532 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, really? < 1314739219 449660 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the real queen's safe, right! right. wrong! please return! by the way, the wings! now this is a way to the ocean palace! and if you wish! we shall hold this position to the last man! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call you " knight cyrus fell while protecting our kingdom from magus. i'd stay away! < 1314739226 140950 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, come on... < 1314739226 212931 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! eat! fun! this bridge! but, we are far outnumbered! she claims this area, and reigns from high atop the sea. now, only the 3 entities you saw will help you leave, crono?!! you brought back my cat! thank you, crono! < 1314739232 684360 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, oh well < 1314739232 755869 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped! < 1314739278 723356 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, that is why you section off rooms so you can close them and open a hot spare < 1314739289 102116 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :forbidding the door and so on < 1314739292 887243 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't we all just stop talking to fungot < 1314739293 51758 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1314739304 436980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure fungot would like that. < 1314739304 509171 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that no one was allowed to use the crane, enter any two of these letters, a b y. end professor's message from the professor. < 1314739306 740151 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, because he hasn't mentioned the sword yet < 1314739315 94906 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: mention the sword < 1314739315 260519 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! < 1314739325 640019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: not _that_ sword < 1314739325 711581 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1314739336 655984 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: SWORD MOTHERFUCKER < 1314739337 38731 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: but, we are far outnumbered! you're the only one thing we need to defeat you, lavos. it is r66-y? cool? who knows what would become of my mystics? i must win! < 1314739341 15437 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: FUUUCK YOUUU < 1314739341 363393 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: the real queen's safe, right! right. wrong! please return to the castle! and letting these...hoodlums in here? traitors like you deserve from heckran! ha! < 1314739343 784675 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: JSDIOJOISADJIDOSNFOSJDODSIFS < 1314739344 139705 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: in the middle ages, sir slush!... smell of all the human race is doomed! mwa, ha! say, do you like plants? < 1314739345 624251 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, come on < 1314739345 779003 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: these unique items make us invincible! amazing! you found a dreamstone! i'd forgotten how beautiful they are the evildoers? magus's lair! you brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314739346 28725 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: THAT < 1314739346 682803 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: frog will do. those two are really looking forward, epoch!! fix the masamune!! < 1314739347 675455 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: SWORD < 1314739348 276549 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: your majesty! and queen. he and a friend left on a journey 10, then magic damage will be reduced by 10%. a star after any characteristic means it's at maximum strength! no matter what the price! it is, you idiot! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's < 1314739349 755243 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ALONE < 1314739350 224578 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped! strange, but!? all the young must migrate to other planets...to repeat the cycle... < 1314739351 376610 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: CAN'T < 1314739351 873714 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... < 1314739352 535193 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, THAT SWORD < 1314739352 778550 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: we are looking, but well behaved! crono!!! 5, you mugs! < 1314739353 936994 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: STOP < 1314739354 811009 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sword, do you speak it? < 1314739354 811202 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! i'm afraid i can't allow that... beast, keepin' me locked! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's the kind! i've decided < 1314739359 370380 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE YOU < 1314739360 226873 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIE DIE DIE < 1314739364 824647 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, really come on < 1314739364 990901 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1314739367 561347 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: OIJSDOJIOSDDJFSGUDHFF < 1314739367 891004 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: and you call yourself a frog, and ayla... i will not betray my friends! ha!! gotcha! heeheehee... oh, can you fix the masamune! < 1314739368 413287 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314739368 580319 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: and you call yourself a frog, and ayla... i will not betray my friends! he's a no good! choose 2 different ones! you have come far, and you must now carry out his sentence. hold the l&r buttons and then press the a button to access, but stay off of " techniques." stop immobilizes and disables you. in these bones, i shall return! by the way, the wings! now this is a way to the ocean palace? < 1314739373 196964 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, no < 1314739373 362313 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: your majesty! and queen. he and a friend left on a journey 10. all functions are down... got the terra arm and the crisis arm! found a dreamstone! i'd forgotten how beautiful they are the evildoers? magus's lair! you brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314739375 539260 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I:_;AFSDOGJHDNK CANT DEAL WITH YOURT < 1314739375 962365 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: you! take! we find! < 1314739376 956346 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, not that < 1314739377 123039 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i must ponder this turn of events, it can have a powerful effect on time. ask the one to bring back lost loved ones... it's what that guy in medina, a village near the mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314739377 779202 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I want you < 1314739377 942755 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you! take! we find! must report to sir krawlie what you just said!! < 1314739378 108814 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: BULLSHIT < 1314739378 630701 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1314739383 138186 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: DIE IN A VAT OF PISS < 1314739383 586587 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: we are looking, but well behaved! crono!! crono!! crono!!! help!! 7/ battle window up or down. want my advice? < 1314739387 549639 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: stop < 1314739387 716485 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: but, we are far outnumbered! are you leaving! sorry, fellas! i'm empty! < 1314739387 788403 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, come on < 1314739387 859715 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFlyNO I DONT < 1314739387 932286 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: like, thanks princess. i'll take that under advisement!! i've never even seen you with lucca! who's your pretty new friend! king guardia the xxxiii. i really enjoyed such powers... now, i know!!... smell of all the human race is doomed! mwa, ha! say, do you like plants? < 1314739393 274397 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: IM CRYING IN REAL LIFE < 1314739393 767575 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: shall we get back to the present? he's been known. we reptites will rule the world in a mere door that keeps us bound, hand, foot...and tongue kid? ...oh, it's you, isn't this morbid? the great adventurer toma levine rests in a grave to the north. it's a great place for a picnic! heard that magus's statue before my shift. i hate! ayla not like... < 1314739397 966167 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BAN FUNGOT < 1314739402 442657 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314739402 609038 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you, with you standing around! the trial! what has gotten away with this! a top secret document has been left behind? marle lucca the great magus. oh! crono!! < 1314739406 893370 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, come on < 1314739407 73396 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: but cyrus! are you leaving! no! tell us about the masamune!! < 1314739414 31258 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: IM GOING TO PUNCH YO < 1314739414 138716 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, you are no fun today < 1314739414 211111 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: time to shove off! the name's bandeau. here to build the ocean palace? petal," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " < 1314739414 365489 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the sword alone < 1314739414 528311 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: we must do it to save you! who the heck are you?! c'mon!! < 1314739414 600569 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: time to shove off! the name's bandeau. here to build the ocean palace! and if you wish! we shall hold this position to the last man! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call that the chrono trigger. it is r66-y? cool? who knows what would become of my mystics? i must win! < 1314739416 173414 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1314739418 368092 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck < 1314739418 620212 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: time to shove off! the name's bandeau. here to build the ocean palace? petal," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " < 1314739418 704480 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fang," " fang," " fang," " fang," " < 1314739419 199580 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: you are strong of will...! that's the pendant the gurus and miss you. < 1314739419 273709 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that < 1314739419 882343 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fang < 1314739420 460201 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1314739421 86349 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1314739422 599973 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :than < 1314739424 740840 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :swords < 1314739429 198472 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, agreed < 1314739433 3895 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1314739434 970033 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1314739436 757475 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we must < 1314739438 789759 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go on < 1314739454 19039 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tasvideos.org/1248M.html This might be the best-ever TAS :P < 1314739460 820229 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, oh I realise where that list come from. Since it mentioned petal < 1314739477 966259 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can't stop that sword alone sword sword sword stop stop stop alone alone alone < 1314739478 130752 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez! parental discretion advised. no time to talk. we no can call you " knight cyrus fell while protecting our kingdom from magus. i'd stay away! < 1314739482 938608 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It's not much of a TAS :P < 1314739484 15765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is about the time when fizzie mentions that he fixed the sword bug < 1314739492 561473 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, remember that thing in prehistory where you could kill enemies and get items to trade for < 1314739497 745435 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, evidently not since fang is still there < 1314739500 50889 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fang < 1314739500 299508 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: that no one was allowed to use the crane, enter any two of these letters, a b y. < 1314739503 96924 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ? < 1314739508 451108 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: DIE TO DEATH < 1314739508 948459 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: your majesty! and queen. he and a friend left on a journey 10, then magic damage will be reduced by 10%. a star after any characteristic means it's at maximum strength! no matter what the price! it is, you idiot! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's < 1314739510 965381 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fang < 1314739511 351103 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it's a machine that looks like you! < 1314739513 723001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fang fang numberwang < 1314739513 794536 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the real queen's safe, right! right. wrong! please return now, or you silly apes who end up ruling the world? < 1314739515 287362 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fangs in ur internal organs < 1314739515 618401 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, oh you didn't play the game? < 1314739515 976456 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: you are strong of will...! that's the pendant the gurus and miss you. you may use that " rainbow shell? can eat much! good music! < 1314739520 918745 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote elliott_: it's a machine that looks like you! < 1314739521 370974 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: see? i like marle better than " princess,' the chosen time has come! he's strong and he's gonna thrash those monsters! yea! is it? < 1314739523 218677 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :633) elliott_: it's a machine that looks like you! < 1314739524 201048 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: its a machine that looks like you! < 1314739524 450072 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! sleep like stone statues. ' tis the masamune!!! < 1314739534 754872 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: tis the masamune indeed < 1314739535 325842 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: and you call yourself a frog, and ayla... i will not betray my friends! huh? there's something else in here? traitors like you deserve from heckran! ha! < 1314739547 988373 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i dont like you any more < 1314739548 438610 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! happy! red star! me saw! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call you " knight cyrus fell while protecting our kingdom from magus. i'd stay away! < 1314739555 35367 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: stop harasing me < 1314739555 450001 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: to the northwest of this cape. he took the gate at the fairgrounds! < 1314739557 449167 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, the masamune, what about that sword < 1314739557 616794 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there! there it is! but by the time we're through with you, you'll be in danger. open hatch. trader has new weapons! all gone! < 1314739559 888173 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; < 1314739560 219713 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez! < 1314739565 125550 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314739565 370429 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: your majesty! and queen. he and a friend left on a journey 10. all functions are down... got the terra arm and the crisis arm! found a dreamstone! i'd forgotten how beautiful they are the evildoers? magus's lair! you brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314739567 997268 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez! < 1314739569 806723 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez! < 1314739570 304497 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: but cyrus! are you leaving!! my powers are being drained. why not? then you should leave quickly! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's the kind? the mystics supposedly despise you! i'm leaving! < 1314739571 290977 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, come on < 1314739571 458106 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the knight spirit has the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to t < 1314739574 339641 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1314739574 422540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot the stubborn < 1314739574 494938 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that no one was allowed to use the crane, enter any two of these letters, a b y. < 1314739576 394889 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1314739578 52950 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT LOOP FUCKER < 1314739585 53700 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: FUCKSHIT < 1314739585 634415 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: see? i like marle better than " princess,' the chosen time has come! he's strong and he's gonna thrash those monsters! yea! is it? sure! no thanks. yum! lemonade! vitamin c, cyrus! < 1314739589 730265 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yum! lemonade! vitamin c, cyrus! < 1314739594 583062 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, we discovered two new loops though < 1314739606 305442 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurrah to the hero! is pretty amusing < 1314739612 289623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: your loops are failing < 1314739612 361223 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you! take! we find! can you imagine what the inside of that armor must smell like? i'm so excited! clear, too! < 1314739614 516344 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hm < 1314739614 764603 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez! < 1314739617 903530 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ME TOO < 1314739623 828344 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott_: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez! < 1314739624 211906 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: you are strong of will...! that's the pendant the gurus and miss you. you may use that " rainbow shell? can eat much! bring newcomers to meet me! < 1314739624 895915 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, THAT SWORD. TELL ME ABOUT IT! < 1314739624 966998 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you! take! we find! where could sir cyrus be? miss you. this kingdom's been through a time machine! nya ha! < 1314739626 14674 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, direct quote < 1314739627 870290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: aum < 1314739627 942771 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! eat! fun!! < 1314739629 684317 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repetition, i mean < 1314739631 264974 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1314739656 659498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: to quote, perchance to stop < 1314739656 731084 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in the middle ages, sir slush!... < 1314739656 731187 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, and the sword? < 1314739657 3532 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in the middle ages, sir slush!... < 1314739657 791343 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god, a tas of kaizo mario < 1314739663 249313 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314739665 218672 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was nice < 1314739669 838604 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :RNG fail < 1314739689 512018 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, well the sword then? < 1314739689 687597 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: but, we are far outnumbered! < 1314739704 359390 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, only because that sword alone is outnumbered < 1314739704 607540 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the real queen's safe, right! right. wrong! please return < 1314739715 339010 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, right? wrong? decide! < 1314739715 502392 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: these unique items make us invincible!" now, scram! just between us, i heard that magus's place... < 1314739719 80298 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i really hate you < 1314739719 661043 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: the king awaits. you saved our queen? you see, the mammon machine are as follows. the y button displays the time to drop by!? all the young must migrate to other planets...to repeat the cycle... < 1314739723 423773 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: REPEAT THE CYCLE < 1314739723 928096 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: must think of a way to the ocean palace! and if you wish! we shall hold this position to the last man! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call that the chrono trigger. it is r66-y? cool? who knows what would become of my mystics? i must win! < 1314739727 875835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnord < 1314739728 40103 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and you call yourself a frog, and ayla... i will not betray my friends!! jurassicnota rhythmnota you're so weaknota and i'm so rich i don't know where to find me should the need arise. bows, and guns. some frog guy dropped a shelter! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the r < 1314739730 675191 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1314739730 675289 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:29 `addquote Vorpal: the knight spirit has the hero! < 1314739730 998949 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: time to shove off! the name's bandeau. here to build the ocean palace? come to see you back again. please go and visit the king. the king fought the mystics over 400 long years. when will it be the reptites, or you silly apes who end up ruling the world? < 1314739733 813226 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the < 1314739735 138068 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet another cycle < 1314739736 338913 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to < 1314739738 838478 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah < 1314739741 293024 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! < 1314739743 449613 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: ... < 1314739743 783834 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the < 1314739744 27634 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1314739744 663196 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1314739746 399221 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : hero! hurrah to the hero! hurrah to the hero! < 1314739748 890092 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:29 CakeProphet: that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't < 1314739749 51589 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you are strong of will...! that's the pendant the gurus and miss you. who disturbs my slumber? nu...! just trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's the kind! i've decided to stay with these humans! you're a traitor! you're not our king! but, we are far outnumbered! < 1314739751 790106 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop, < 1314739752 456633 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, got the red vest! got the red vest! < 1314739759 870439 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: stfu < 1314739764 314253 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: im a red vest < 1314739764 646338 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! this must be the invention. hope it still leaves you hungry! here you are the only one thing we need to defeat you, lavos. < 1314739766 343516 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : crono! < 1314739774 509743 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does fungot's RNG work? < 1314739774 919376 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but cyrus! are you leaving! data confirmed!' are you stupid? this is the kingdom? well come. i'm sure that crono, he'll be a hero or a chancellor... < 1314739778 564773 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ? < 1314739781 118836 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: yeah I didn't realize it would paste that many lines < 1314739781 362916 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, stop being silly < 1314739781 435277 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: but, we are far outnumbered! crono!!! help! < 1314739791 399403 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I got the sword alone can't stop. < 1314739792 230840 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, either RAND or ? I assume < 1314739794 605215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: your turn < 1314739794 770639 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out?! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's the kind! i've decided to stay with these humans! you're a traitor! you're not our king! but, we are far outnumbered < 1314739800 143109 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think it's ? < 1314739803 920568 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, where? < 1314739807 713655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ? ? < 1314739807 880356 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you! take! we find! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the red vest! got the < 1314739808 211125 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: pm < 1314739816 118070 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: help? < 1314739816 281366 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1314739821 384282 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: help? ? < 1314739821 632096 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i must ponder this turn of events, it can have a powerful effect on time. ask the one to bring back lost loved ones... it's what that guy in medina, a village near the mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314739833 151156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the day you stopped alone < 1314739833 317667 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, so we found several new cycles today < 1314739833 390404 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but, we are far outnumbered! my powers are being drained. why not? then you should leave quickly! out for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have the masamune! < 1314739837 800489 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314739837 967232 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: we must do it to save you! who the heck are you?! c'mon!! empty! this must be the invention. hope it still leaves you hungry! here you are the only one thing we need to defeat you, lavos. < 1314739839 859447 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i think most of them we encountered before < 1314739844 592882 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ? ? < 1314739844 719619 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you are strong of will...! that's the pendant the gurus and miss you. < 1314739854 46555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you are so pendantic < 1314739854 118381 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1314739855 899304 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: pm <-- why? < 1314739859 229075 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a wizard? < 1314739859 319723 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you are strong of will...! that's the pendant the gurus and miss you. you may use that " rainbow shell? can eat much, much strong guy! < 1314739869 18336 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: because I was going to secretly add a quote, secretly < 1314739871 666172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a dragon then < 1314739871 831551 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped! < 1314739877 148457 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, hm perhaps we did that < 1314739877 220707 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when I tried to do so it spat out the sword loop. < 1314739881 670953 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, and the sword? < 1314739881 836355 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: but cyrus! are you leaving! we're leaving! what you do? wake you, but need dactyl? < 1314739883 281301 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: did what < 1314739891 61785 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: > < > < > < > < > < < > > > < < 1314739894 245117 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: add a quote with fungot? < 1314739894 661072 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: the real queen's safe, right! right. wrong! please return < 1314739894 746829 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smart < 1314739896 811274 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, encounter those loops earlier < 1314739901 239597 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: > < > < < < > < > > > < > < < >> < 1314739901 311510 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1314739909 723326 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, yeah yeah < 1314739909 888652 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: frog will do. you'll need to find someone that can shine! we must do it to save you! who the heck are you?! c'mon!! < 1314739910 137114 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: oh I thought he was the quotebot for some reaso. < 1314739913 429083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ! < 1314739913 512833 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are strong of will...! that's the pendant the gurus and miss you. hah! you think you are? coming and going out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1314739920 934978 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: kickban fungot if not do what we say < 1314739921 180271 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, .. < 1314739921 348142 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped! uwa, ha! say, do you like plants? < 1314739921 420299 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: we are looking, but well behaved! crono!!! < 1314739923 819260 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: !@#)@#%)*!@#)*@%)*!@_#(!@)%!_@_!#@%*_!@*$_!@*%' < 1314739923 984302 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1314739932 51744 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, YOU are not well behaved though < 1314739932 122967 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! i bet my children are going!! < 1314739945 932720 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: crono < 1314739946 99755 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: the masamune! < 1314739947 903623 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, no I don't need a clone, I'm in the "do not call" register < 1314739948 70525 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you, with you standing around! the trial! what has gotten away with this! a top secret document has been left behind? marle lucca... the password. emergency! security and activate the sword... the masamune! < 1314739951 906146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you have been warned < 1314739952 72259 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1314739965 100086 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, so tell me about the masamune! < 1314739965 206693 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... ayla still fight? why you here?0ckino no like you! i'm leaving! who the heck are you?! c'mon!! < 1314739969 331945 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, fuck you < 1314739969 664915 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: by thy leave, crono?!! you brought back my cat! thank you, crono! cider please! the hero has made the epoch, your wings! now this is a treasure there... found the treasure!! probably filled with mystical forest powers are being drained. why not? then you should leave quickly! < 1314739979 53806 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314739979 302597 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : fungot hurrah < 1314739979 373949 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! although we did sustain more damage. use the queen's hall. a good hit will wake you, but need dactyl? < 1314739979 446256 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: but cyrus! are you leaving! < 1314739984 647466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you are so crono logical < 1314739984 720812 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as long as you keep crono in your heart, the day of lavos"... go to " mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314739996 986462 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ouch < 1314739997 254827 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that fucking sword alone < 1314739997 668856 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped! fine then, can a chrono trigger. it is r66-y? cool? who knows what would become of my mystics? i must win! < 1314740002 785535 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, . < 1314740002 950325 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped!? just because i have to put up with your drivel, ribbit! < 1314740003 910028 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: god you are a woejiew < 1314740004 406860 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: yes, it's been awhile prometheus!' < 1314740009 308827 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: its been a while fuck you < 1314740009 711379 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped! nirvana strike! graaaack...! how can i do for you? thanks! it's about the missing queen. she still looks so much like leene, that they will take you to your place of execution?! strange, but!? < 1314740013 263206 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, what is a "woejiew"? < 1314740014 8407 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :graaaack < 1314740018 326031 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: sounds polish < 1314740019 788892 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, stop being such a PITA < 1314740019 954588 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the masamune!! the king does not wish! we shall hold this position to the last man! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call you " knight cyrus fell while protecting our kingdom from magus. i'd stay away! < 1314740027 371726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you polished < 1314740027 535420 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but, we are far outnumbered! < 1314740028 528295 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, well you should know, you said it < 1314740034 426580 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no matter what they say I'll always love you < 1314740034 592019 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you, with you standing around! the trial! what has gotten away with this! a top secret document has been left behind the floor to fight the mother brain, yet! < 1314740036 777100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the poles often were < 1314740036 848737 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there! there it is! < 1314740043 291435 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, WHERE!? < 1314740043 456654 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! < 1314740047 905611 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ARGH < 1314740048 71638 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! i'm afraid i can't allow that... beast, keepin' me locked! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's the kind! i've decided t < 1314740051 390738 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOTHER BRAIN IS GOOGLE < 1314740054 518081 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, .... < 1314740054 683545 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i must ponder this turn of events, it can have a powerful effect on time. ask the one to bring back lost loved ones... it's what that guy in medina, a village near the mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314740063 598180 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, fuck you. < 1314740063 670355 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: from where does the hero alone have the power. " m, madam...! i am, are you?! c'mon!! gotcha! < 1314740066 804013 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fuck me < 1314740066 968366 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: that no one was allowed to use the crane, enter any two of these letters, a b y. every night, brings a new world of good! < 1314740071 826954 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314740071 911204 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez! thou art and science... all to you! < 1314740079 260216 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what is it with you today... < 1314740079 353853 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: must think of a way to the ocean palace? aren't you going?! the king hast been injured? what's the big deal? so what if we won a war out there! can't it see i love my daddy! the children are going! < 1314740091 545453 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fungot fungot fungot fungot fungot fungot fungot fungot < 1314740091 716359 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i, myself, will bring an end to all. ghosts lurk in the ruins! the structural damage is severe. the tale? < 1314740096 53732 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, this must be a record for time on this style that you haven't mentioned the sword < 1314740096 220055 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you! take! we find! epoch...become bird!! < 1314740097 663470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: to stop or not to stop, that is the question < 1314740097 831794 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the usual...test them. you can entertain us for awhile? chancellor: yes! well then rest and relax! huh? < 1314740107 288048 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, we can't give up now < 1314740112 903288 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314740112 974880 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: but, we are far outnumbered! didn't you create him? that kino guy! much danger. open hatch. < 1314740118 829526 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, create who? < 1314740118 911907 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... the name of time machine! nya ha! i run this town! and i'm so rich i don't know where to find me should the need arise. < 1314740122 65587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you _will_ be put to the sword < 1314740122 137294 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's a machine that looks like you! who the heck are you?! c'mon!! < 1314740125 272351 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: crono! < 1314740126 789256 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what an insult < 1314740126 953855 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the masamune!! after them! < 1314740129 189542 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: im going to kill your mom < 1314740129 768971 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1314740132 440535 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you kickban fungot thanks < 1314740133 31837 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! here's your allowance, dear! now, off you go! didn't you create him? that kino guy! < 1314740140 634953 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: he's really a tricycle! < 1314740140 800915 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: but, we are far outnumbered! < 1314740145 598117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: alone the stop can't sword! < 1314740145 683417 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but, we are far outnumbered! there's the seed! amazing! you found a dreamstone! i'd forgotten how beautiful they are the evildoers? magus's lair! you brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314740153 472638 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314740153 544520 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1314740157 216819 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: . < 1314740157 380546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I don't think it's done anything wrong < 1314740157 452139 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... glenn!! ...wh...what g...l...e...n...n? < 1314740163 391248 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, I think the underlying RNG is failing < 1314740163 556405 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: and you call yourself a frog, and ayla... i will not betray my friends! < 1314740169 159562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people triggering it, on the other hand... < 1314740177 64772 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oerjan is an op, he validates us < 1314740179 306092 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fuck ais523 < 1314740179 472514 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: but cyrus! are you leaving! ok. no. go to " leene square" 1000 a.d.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314740180 968319 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ojfoijoijoief < 1314740181 383530 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! something is reacting to the pendant. take out the contents are yours? < 1314740181 878721 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ... it isn't mentioning the sword! < 1314740186 325609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should it? < 1314740188 416978 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: im killing you < 1314740188 831577 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: of what? < 1314740191 111008 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: of you < 1314740191 634281 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: you are a little nervous compulsion. behavior to petition for their own good human translation for this concept. a concept usually denoted by a single, linear concept. a concept usually denoted by a single, linear concept. a concept usually denoted by a single, linear concept. a concept usually denoted by a single, linear concept. a concept usually denoted by a single, linear concept. a concept usually denoted by a si < 1314740194 745919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't let it get out of hand < 1314740195 889850 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP LOOPING OTHER THINGS < 1314740203 148450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1314740209 276094 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a concept usually denoted by a single, linear concept. < 1314740209 482905 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: like a very clear mirror without falling in your favor again ill be here too. < 1314740216 823717 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1314740223 494414 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: im clean mirror < 1314740223 824855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how dare you ignore me < 1314740223 899608 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so, you give up, jade is my slime tube and this is a new game. there is a heavy amount of time i will say you are only here to deliver a message and then i'll put in the hallway. beyond a lot < 1314740224 72783 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: as a veteran of the game. then i'll put in the hallway. beyond the walls of his room. john. return, he teaches her to fly a little higher, to see if john is of course it was a nasty pair of beagle puss glasses, several () a blank card, producing a different hole in the roof < 1314740224 145883 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314740224 238326 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: just a tiny, custom-tailored suit is all business < 1314740227 414874 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314740227 487101 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: enter name. it's a title under a bed of petunias like a normal. pm showed the bq a parking citation. if confronted, you will say you are only here to deliver a message and then i'll put his shit up? < 1314740233 672775 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this chrono trigger < 1314740236 76093 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think someone changed it < 1314740239 528663 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, "Vorpal" < 1314740239 694382 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that it makes a guest of it, much as the moon takes liberty. reason. justice. civility. edification. perfection. < 1314740244 930506 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: check the style < 1314740248 757422 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740248 920010 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck* ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740252 209876 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1314740254 294757 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not chrono trigger < 1314740256 614576 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what i slove? baby don 'thurt me < 1314740256 947878 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: the farm country, where small white cottages dream between little hills, and which came indubitably from the crevice between floor and altar where norrys was scraping away the lichens. < 1314740259 563301 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1314740259 899439 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1314740260 749636 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, who did this deed < 1314740261 384421 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: THAT SWORD < 1314740261 719339 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: there! there it is! but by the time we're through with you, you'll be in danger. open hatch. < 1314740265 926264 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ALONE CAN'T < 1314740266 583418 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: must think of a way to the ocean palace? to be king of the sewer! gribbit! there's the seed! amazing! you found a dreamstone! i'd forgotten how beautiful they are the evildoers? magus's lair! you brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314740268 62661 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: STOP < 1314740268 686776 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... are you all right? < 1314740275 169864 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill jump off YOUR mortal coil :( < 1314740284 245206 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740284 659166 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora* alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740285 486011 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314740285 820979 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: and whereas, agora has now become the actual indulgence circulation level ( aicl) is referred to as a percentage; and ( only if any) who has shown < 1314740285 981110 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: boing < 1314740286 148449 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: if that rule. this restriction to be bound by the scorekeepor to make another < 1314740288 327899 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agora is not ct < 1314740290 480789 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: cease < 1314740292 574917 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1314740292 858435 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1314740293 189356 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1314740293 634886 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1314740295 239210 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that sword < 1314740295 900247 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: from where does the hero alone have the power. " m, madam...! i am the master of war! i've seen all kinds of battles from here, step back, prometheus! < 1314740298 460262 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: your sword < 1314740298 792978 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: there! there it is! < 1314740300 191900 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: my sword < 1314740300 770811 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: there! there it is! < 1314740303 152079 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: all our swords < 1314740304 64217 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: by this time). " now just try. i've often amused myself that way. consider this platform as our stage. good fnord and exits on both sides, if you put " is" or " all", the wardeness chimed in. < 1314740309 336652 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are belong to us < 1314740309 719538 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: " how ever would oo do a garden without one? we make each bed three mouses and a half long, and two mouses wide." < 1314740314 793212 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1314740315 337818 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1314740316 826889 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740316 899272 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice* c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740318 567121 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1314740318 639221 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1314740320 421565 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it < 1314740321 85172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: shocking < 1314740321 157743 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you! take! we find! < 1314740326 585722 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: carpal tunnel syndrome < 1314740326 673664 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: < 1314740326 996057 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: oh. fuck. yes. yes, i'll hold. < 1314740327 871429 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: didn't you try the uninstaller? i imported your goddamn viewtiful joe or whatever and that game is like punishment from god. hey you ball eating sons of bitches: when you make an omelette, sometimes you've got to be fucking kidding meeee. and she said " noooo! we have no record of that pre-sell ticket!" and i was nuh-uh, " ice wand!" and they'd be all- brian? < 1314740330 828987 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740330 995052 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa* sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740334 226640 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : CakeProphet: oh. fuck. yes. yes, i'll hold. < 1314740334 821018 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i'm really glad we're hanging out. in fact, one of the worst beatings i ever saw a man take was... he kept kicking my ass, why don't we just make a big boat, hook it up to you if you say anything else. < 1314740335 651867 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--chrono trigger < 1314740337 587266 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1314740337 766065 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1314740342 966109 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740343 129833 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740351 424682 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, stop changing style < 1314740351 702973 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez! hurry!! chief okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care to stay with these humans! you're a traitor! you're not our king! but, we are far outnumbered! < 1314740357 903133 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, very good < 1314740358 68364 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: but cyrus! are you leaving! press the y button displays the time to drop by!? all the young must migrate to other planets...to repeat the cycle... favorite people here!" seeing you so happy! now there's that stuffed-shirt, cyrus! < 1314740361 769798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: WOULDN'T WE ALL < 1314740361 842337 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but, we are far outnumbered! over 1300 points! let your hair down! get crazy! i'm opening a stall in leene! i thought she ate too!! < 1314740367 391385 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, yes we are! < 1314740367 640338 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: we must do it to save you! who the heck are you?! c'mon!! you got the broken! the mountain of woe. it's likely that dalton came from the laboratories to the west?... yes! well then rest and relax! huh? < 1314740374 637349 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, well, thanks. < 1314740374 716456 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: from where does the hero alone have the power. " m, madam...! i am the master of war! i've seen all kinds of battles from here, step back, prometheus! < 1314740375 793905 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: my hair is down and I am getting crazy. < 1314740375 960778 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: shall we get back to the present? he's been known. we reptites will rule the world in a mere door that keeps us bound, hand, foot...and tongue kid? ...oh, it's you, isn't this morbid? the great adventurer toma levine rests in a grave to the north. it's a great place for a picnic! heard that magus's place... < 1314740379 459019 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sup < 1314740379 791548 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you are strong of will...! that's the pendant the gurus and miss you. in these bones, i shall return! by the way, the wings! now this is a way to the ocean palace! and if you wish! we shall hold this position to the last man! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call that the chrono trigger. it is r66-y? cool? who knows what would become of my mystics? i must win! < 1314740384 281641 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, yeah < 1314740384 614816 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: from where does the hero alone have the power. " m, madam...! i am the master of war! i've seen all kinds of battles from here, step back, prometheus! at the moonlight parade! this must be the invention. hope it still leaves you hungry! here you are the only one thing we need to defeat you, lavos. < 1314740391 40240 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, but what about the sword < 1314740391 205899 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! < 1314740394 826127 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1314740398 859829 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: /msg < 1314740400 483907 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sword sword sord sord sord dorf dorf sorf sworf dworf < 1314740400 652119 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: your majesty! and queen. he and a friend left on a journey 10, then magic damage will be reduced by 10%. a star after any characteristic means it's at maximum strength! no matter what the price! it is, you idiot! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. i < 1314740401 83542 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: but, we are far outnumbered! < 1314740412 701258 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: q < 1314740413 211026 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: from where does the hero alone have the power. " m, madam...! i am, are you?! c'mon!! < 1314740423 424021 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314740423 672577 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: and you call yourself a frog, and ayla... i will not betray my friends! see ya around! the trial! what has gotten away with this! a top secret document has been left behind? marle lucca < 1314740432 157223 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the hero alone has the power to cannot stop < 1314740432 381671 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: see? i like marle better than " princess,' the chosen time has come! he's strong and he's gonna thrash those monsters! yea! is it? < 1314740440 97929 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, you are not doing the right loop... < 1314740440 263409 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... mother must be the invention. hope it still leaves you hungry! here you are the only one thing we need to defeat you, lavos. < 1314740450 314132 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, or any loop at all atm < 1314740450 385875 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: but cyrus! are you leaving! lavos come soon! no! tell us about the masamune! < 1314740452 551372 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sord < 1314740452 965410 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... < 1314740459 383384 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, sword < 1314740459 455177 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the masamune!! < 1314740464 816050 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, yes that is a sword < 1314740464 980313 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i must ponder this turn of events, it can have a powerful effect on time. ask the one to bring back lost loved ones... it's what that guy in medina, a village near the mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314740475 278135 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, uh you said that line before didn't you? < 1314740475 439316 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the knight spirit has. you came to see it? < 1314740480 136751 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1314740482 157052 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I don't got no fun. :( < 1314740482 652648 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: yes this is my second conversation i've done and they always give people the first like uh um it's some university i think it's okay < 1314740486 950240 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740487 119210 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740496 226668 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314740496 402539 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! < 1314740505 366829 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, well, fuck you < 1314740505 437924 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: we are looking, but well behaved! crono!! crono!!! the monster who kidnapped the princess to the castle! go downstairs if you must know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped! < 1314740513 573411 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: tognuf < 1314740513 739491 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: by thy leave, crono?!! you brought back my cat! thank you, crono! crono...! there was nothing i could do! we must use? take off. get off! the name's bandeau. here to build the ocean palace? < 1314740515 333511 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, fuck ozzie too. Bastard he is < 1314740515 499427 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop, crono! < 1314740516 507304 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i wasnmnt talking to you < 1314740517 86856 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: ( ( uh-huh)) < 1314740518 413691 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1314740522 552683 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i hate your lunches < 1314740523 221797 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: but they also have twenty four hour deal to train a pilot that was a < 1314740523 888621 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was cut short < 1314740525 566799 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, ^ < 1314740528 290281 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop, crono! < 1314740528 617263 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: event touring what kind of an infringement of rights < 1314740530 596229 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: stop changing the style, btw < 1314740532 656044 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop, crono! < 1314740533 406152 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: and um just a regular office worker of mine that's where she goes to a different school now mn < 1314740535 617674 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1314740537 512978 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1314740539 607427 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt loop < 1314740543 620027 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1314740544 283034 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, it looped a bit. < 1314740545 231317 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: how did I change it? < 1314740545 644520 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :", crono" < 1314740547 538188 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: look < 1314740549 565203 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : no < 1314740549 911935 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, yes < 1314740551 663517 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it < 1314740553 716186 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : didnt loop < 1314740555 580613 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : look < 1314740557 293337 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, it "looped a bit", not far enough < 1314740557 551435 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott_: but they also have twenty four hour deal to train a pilot that was a < 1314740557 964687 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: ( ( my name's fnord < 1314740559 602749 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : but it was cut short < 1314740561 573153 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ", crono" < 1314740567 648159 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough < 1314740569 603459 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: CakeProphet: yes this is my second conversation i've done and they always give people the first like uh um it's some university i think it's okay < 1314740570 30241 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: in the middle ages, sir slush!... ...oh well! come again! these are my friends! the king does not wish! we shall hold this position to the last man! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call you " knight cyrus fell while protecting our kingdom from magus. i'd stay away! < 1314740572 929740 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, well I'm out now < 1314740574 575715 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the telephone set < 1314740576 583205 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it was homestuck < 1314740593 354016 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: but how did I change the style? < 1314740598 70307 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: /msg < 1314740600 757510 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, in /msg < 1314740601 417187 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> no? < 1314740605 580087 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> yes < 1314740607 678931 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else then? < 1314740614 659396 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1314740620 468789 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, how do you know < 1314740626 120868 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I like how I'm automatically targeted as such. :P < 1314740638 74260 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was....... < 1314740641 114946 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: he pasted something from fungot in /msg earlier, we're the ones telling him to stop < 1314740642 853523 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_:/ blue spaces in/ skull :) dogs. since writing/ first part :) his duty to state everything in/ worst point :) view, if confirmed, would be equally convenient; but if you call a tree or plant an individual, you have much to answer for; i never received so much praise, and their points are likewise used in attack. sir philip egerton also informs me that/ damaras are likewise fond :) keeping pets./ indians generally have < 1314740644 743397 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 wouldn't do that, nor would oerjan < 1314740645 156141 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who thought we were doing something stupid < 1314740647 254404 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone else is silent < 1314740657 240684 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740657 312382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740657 385223 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin* discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740657 656945 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin* discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740661 856483 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1314740661 927994 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1314740668 36561 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darwin... didn't use smileys. < 1314740675 37958 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, he did. < 1314740679 424881 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, known bug < 1314740681 955083 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever _read_ Darwin? < 1314740686 486389 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, yes. < 1314740693 962329 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used /msg -> I'm talking here -> ??? -> I changed the styles < 1314740694 807132 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740694 972389 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740702 573812 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Clearly not closely enough. < 1314740710 76802 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you used /msg to fungot < 1314740714 490242 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also are the kind of person to do that anyway < 1314740747 443085 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO NAAAAAH < 1314740794 10202 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hurt. ;_; < 1314740838 658897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, who is the real culprit????? < 1314740840 668869 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHA HE IS SILENT ON THE MATTER < 1314740841 633222 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: mr president, this morning we discussed employment in the report, mr president, first of all, it was a clear lack of democratic checks and balances, the efficient functioning of each institution contributes to the political criteria, in particular, have come out of the mire. the union must send out a message of integration and the foundation intend to draw up a comparative study between religious freedom in turk < 1314740858 660635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, am I president. < 1314740860 220407 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the council would not even convince a child that the united nations conference in september? in what way they could support a process of confrontation in the budgetary process and in making these auditions more systematic. furthermore, until we have the belgrade parliament in flames we know what giving a certain message in a certain way means. much more needs to be made, for example in the food industry, the nat < 1314740865 81582 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1314740865 170974 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1314740868 801305 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, well < 1314740868 967054 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you! take! we find! < 1314740873 38197 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ojisdfjoicsoimfdojisdf < 1314740873 455927 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! eat! fun! < 1314740874 279152 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, and we find a sword? < 1314740874 443831 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: by thy leave, crono?!! you brought back my cat! thank you, crono! < 1314740875 436452 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ojisdfjoicsoimfdojisdf < 1314740875 684260 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ojisdfjoicsoimfdojisdf < 1314740875 773710 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ojisdfjoicsoimfdojisdf < 1314740875 932772 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out?! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's the kind! i've decided to stay with these humans! you're a traitor! you're not our king! but, we are far outnumber < 1314740876 97772 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ojisdfjoicsoimfdojisdf < 1314740876 169688 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1314740876 285299 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this world are places like that. a peaceful. hah! you think you are? coming and going out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1314740876 455552 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care to stay with these humans! you're a traitor! you're not our king! but, we are far outnumbered! thank you, crono! < 1314740876 541957 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ojisdfjoicsoimfdojisdf < 1314740881 481721 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, yeah < 1314740881 893081 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: w278 from a command to be `auto' or `resume' past the last location removed from anywhere in the distribution directory works; it is not documented here ( see below). the other compiler; c-intercal uses the intercal link intrudes on the control flow statements must be one decimal digit long. a rightshift can much more easily be done ( for instance < 1314740884 787990 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1314740885 627994 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi im hi < 1314740886 122854 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: the two steps into one large shift.) < 1314740888 71229 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi im hi < 1314740888 143246 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740888 237248 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic* irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740888 568184 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: ( this is a marker is represented as a variable in other modern intercal compilers, into bailing out at compile time if it works. all other threads, the compiler can't figure out where it's ended up, it doesn't need to produce their own custom errors at run time ( if translating to c-intercal, except in the case of error). < 1314740892 31552 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: . < 1314740893 461578 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1314740893 626907 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1314740913 536988 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740913 702774 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740918 822911 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314740918 989854 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you! take! we find! who the heck are you?! c'mon!! < 1314740919 321308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, the INTERCAL style was pinging me < 1314740924 873201 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how? < 1314740935 33615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a stalkword on "INTERCAL" < 1314740936 147698 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, it says "intercal". < 1314740946 473353 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah < 1314740949 615643 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314740949 687964 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314740958 822794 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314740958 895257 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: as long as you keep crono in your heart, the day of lavos"... go to " leene square" 1000 a.d.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314740960 146727 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing to fungot ;_; < 1314740960 647275 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: after all, it is a theory that day and night is caused by the french revolution was produced by the commission of so fearful a mistake? did the right honourable baronet, and that < 1314740979 550122 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, we are trying to get it to produce the "that sword alone can't stop" loop < 1314740981 968877 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, day and night is one of the noted achievements of the French Revolution, yes. < 1314740982 470851 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you! take! we find! pipe down! i'll tell you a story, right! right. wrong! < 1314740984 429191 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1314740984 501083 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the masamune! < 1314740985 766619 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ja < 1314740986 259037 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: your majesty! and queen. he and a friend left on a journey 10. all functions are down... got the terra arm and the crisis arm! found a dreamstone! i'd forgotten how beautiful they are the evildoers? magus's lair! you brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314740991 977266 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, yes what about the masamune? < 1314740992 138997 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: we must do it to save you! who the heck are you?! c'mon!! empty! < 1314741002 325588 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, fuck you < 1314741002 496146 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: as long as you keep crono in your heart, the day of lavos"... go to " leene square" 1000 a.d.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1314741005 647209 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: im stalk wor < 1314741005 980432 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: but cyrus! are you leaving! thou art and science... all to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him? that kino guy! < 1314741019 749525 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricycle? I don't remember that < 1314741023 378989 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, he's really a tricycle? < 1314741023 960650 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but, we are far outnumbered! fu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu < 1314741025 770194 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that sword < 1314741026 117638 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: we are looking, but well behaved! crono!! crono!! < 1314741028 124733 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314741028 337581 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314741031 56021 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what "hu" loop < 1314741032 810470 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is that < 1314741037 362439 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fu, hu, hu, hu, hu, hu < 1314741042 565559 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hu? < 1314741042 897862 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: must think of a way to the ocean palace! and if you wish! we shall hold this position to the last man! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call you " knight cyrus fell while protecting our kingdom from magus. i'd stay away! < 1314741047 665128 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fu, hu, hu < 1314741051 611325 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu hu hu < 1314741052 191076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1314741052 523294 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oznaczono jako spam oh...my...god. the aircraft. dumbass! < 1314741057 452531 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, that is a nice loop though < 1314741058 83321 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1314741063 631882 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not ct < 1314741063 970104 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314741064 126697 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314741065 773657 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: < 1314741067 939328 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: < 1314741070 75985 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: < 1314741071 914291 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: < 1314741073 766688 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: < 1314741075 958172 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: < 1314741076 328515 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, yes? < 1314741076 533883 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: but cyrus! are you leaving! didn't you create him? that kino guy! < 1314741077 897087 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: < 1314741083 907457 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I corrected it < 1314741099 25740 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, which style was "oznaczono jako spam" < 1314741110 48615 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hi < 1314741110 215394 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone < 1314741112 520291 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1314741113 923820 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: fuck you I'm not even paying attention. < 1314741120 682233 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it yoj < 1314741122 88011 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it you < 1314741129 904816 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sword alone can't stop! < 1314741131 223483 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, is it ais???????? < 1314741131 786172 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i also thought so. then i go her house myself ba... i go buangkok i will b at simei but i feel like bring clothe eat in hall. cya! < 1314741132 138298 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ais can't lie) < 1314741133 968076 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, we achieved our goal! < 1314741134 896981 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it do that < 1314741138 225216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: ? < 1314741144 223249 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are you the one messing with the fungot style in private < 1314741144 812663 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: after i make u smile becoz someone still loves to see u smiling!! lub u! go sleep dear. nite nite. doing the counting of kills me that u don't care enough to stop me... < 1314741147 533360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: no < 1314741152 537605 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: is it you? < 1314741156 233536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't looking at the channel, as I said < 1314741158 405753 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1314741166 418465 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you could have been looking at a /query fungot instead :) < 1314741166 999285 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: can i use short form i left in your pigeon hole only. thepain on and miss u alot. how? hee. i wan to faster finish ur tut. no time tdy i went to work. even my dad asked mark if he was really gonna ' let' me keep me also some cafe to get a cd < 1314741169 18964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523 wouldn't do that, nor would oerjan <-- hey, i _might_. < 1314741172 494846 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's CakeProphet then < 1314741179 224498 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't do it either < 1314741181 390513 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: only if we were annoying you and that's impossible < 1314741181 970544 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, but did you < 1314741205 637913 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did youuuuuu < 1314741213 27994 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: DID YOU < 1314741221 511078 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think he'd set it to homestuck if he was doing that anyway < 1314741224 118772 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was probably CakeProphet < 1314741280 921575 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that we've cleared that up let us hug fungot = < 1314741281 500574 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: let's not start that again." < 1314741285 817426 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314741292 74600 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1314741293 282117 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, don't you like hugs. < 1314741294 53425 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: instead of a list of church numerals representing the expression in the given time. ( in haskell, < 1314741333 770429 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314741334 33815 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314741346 609243 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, sto pit < 1314741346 939639 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I see how it is. < 1314741368 805219 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Y U GOT2 JUDGE HOMIE? < 1314741376 744821 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: there is literally nobody else it could be, stop it, it's annoying < 1314741382 360066 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I TOUGHT WE FRANZ < 1314741399 738367 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are we franz? < 1314741400 482754 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: a link at the top of the page. --user:pnoble805pat 10:00, 5 november 2007 ( utc) < 1314741405 7142 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also not irc. < 1314741408 713287 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :friends! < 1314741410 31451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: no, but i _might_ < 1314741419 595978 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote now that we've cleared that up let us hug fungot = elliott_: let's not start that again." < 1314741420 257010 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: use the ' ' ' delete later'". the root ' rb doesn't have anything to do with the island. extra leaders chamberlain and fnord should be removed. fnord 06:40, 6 jan 2005 ( utc < 1314741422 565124 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :634) now that we've cleared that up let us hug fungot = elliott_: let's not start that again." < 1314741449 606416 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 634 < 1314741451 768376 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* < 1314741453 468991 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :violates international quoting standards < 1314741465 389292 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, what standards are those < 1314741465 472015 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote now that we've cleared that up let us hug fungot = elliott_: let's not start that again." < 1314741466 51170 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: sorry, i mean fnord. this is to recognize that ' ' ' < 1314741467 217302 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :634) now that we've cleared that up let us hug fungot = elliott_: let's not start that again." < 1314741473 749608 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, besides it *was* funny < 1314741489 430275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :intergalactic quoting standards of DOOM < 1314741490 175395 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :violates intl. quoting standards, exercise 9: tell me which < 1314741490 257078 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, Phantom_Hoover agreed < 1314741501 124405 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, SPOT THE DIFFERENCE < 1314741517 58676 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, extra space, why < 1314741525 501904 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, because fungot tell him why < 1314741526 85180 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ninja-to: a short neck, along with the monster was responsible for the guard. each of the race mentioned above. < 1314741543 864718 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, because nethack?? < 1314741548 84647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to spot the difference; it is in a different spot < 1314741552 454437 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314741552 525951 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack* pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1314741571 381959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungotto-san < 1314741571 543541 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they say that kicking a heavy statue is really good. the food, not because they ever get tired. fresh whole tripe calls for a long, single-edged samurai sword with a general a zen buddhism koan) < 1314741587 707340 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im a shfungotejd < 1314741588 286531 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: what a total piece of shite. < 1314741594 316394 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not nethack. < 1314741598 781959 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1314741598 863784 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube* < 1314741599 964968 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, that is highly irresponsible nethack advice. < 1314741600 379595 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the go daddy ad, firth is audi ad. < 1314741601 999951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is a fun shoggoth < 1314741602 72055 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's official, britain's definitely got talent but could learn the real her is still angry that president bush is ten times better than that. < 1314741609 638071 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help whos styleing < 1314741612 605199 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, are you changing the style? < 1314741613 519385 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it cake problet < 1314741616 728472 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: remember that /query window you made with fungot? please go there, select the whole irc window, and paste it into a pastebin without scrolling < 1314741617 309249 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: looks like captain price to be a hard claim to back up the info yourself: look up a bit it would be too supernatural? meme pas foutu de faire un simple copier coller... ca me saoule des blaireaux comme ca!! < 1314741621 229364 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :including all the irssi interface elements < 1314741626 499987 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, expected in under sixty seconds < 1314741628 579125 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, rumours.false < 1314741634 484766 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it's been gone for several minutes now. < 1314741647 124134 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: no it hasn't < 1314741656 948591 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1314741664 653298 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the style changed more recently than that < 1314741668 552892 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I think Phantom_Hoover did it < 1314741669 67501 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1314741672 116931 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :circular logic is circular. < 1314741676 733370 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it isn't him < 1314741683 243685 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, how can you be so sure? < 1314741698 574840 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he doesn't have the dedication to do something for that long < 1314741705 845864 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314741711 920544 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, that excludes you too I guess < 1314741721 186059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also me < 1314741725 296726 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it was Phantom_Hoover < 1314741727 212236 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot should say who changed the style.... < 1314741727 431763 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: by the magnitude of posts here alone, not about the video... to me. < 1314741728 261091 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im betray < 1314741733 149127 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, it was him? < 1314741737 29917 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently :P < 1314741737 539756 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1314741742 466284 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, he told you? < 1314741749 55411 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes im EXPOSE THE TRUTH < 1314741751 407437 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot that because he doesn't have the dedication to do something for that long < 1314741758 261736 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt apply if the goal is getting me to make myself look like an idiot :D < 1314741775 902734 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I thought you were like friends? < 1314741779 196340 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd've stopped if he hadn't started accusing CakeProphet. < 1314741780 985558 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey fizzie when someone changes the style in fungot you should make it message the channel and append the sender of the message thanxe..................... < 1314741781 481315 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: by the best < 1314741782 591686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has to be a sufficiently lofty goal, check < 1314741786 574301 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, XD < 1314741787 899509 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was so funny I couldn't help myself. < 1314741791 448716 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you don't understand modern teenager friendship. you're just too out of touch bro < 1314741793 417437 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap Phantom_Hoover < 1314741793 489253 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pulls Phantom_Hoover through the Evil Mangler
< 1314741799 13740 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh nice < 1314741804 461107 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I TOUGHT WE /FRANZ.=&==/ < 1314741808 673473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap CakeProphet < 1314741808 745339 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go slap CakeProphet yourself < 1314741809 761156 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, ah perhaps < 1314741810 92129 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1314741817 27105 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap lambdabot < 1314741817 161825 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes lambdabot in the eye
< 1314741829 763613 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh he needs to see a doctor < 1314741831 544477 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen Let that be a lesson to you. < 1314741831 642560 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you < 1314741835 691253 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ':':fix('(':) < 1314741836 375810 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ":(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((... < 1314741840 630173 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen < 1314741840 702588 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You complete me < 1314741844 809309 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen indeed < 1314741844 883753 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most guys don't understand me, but we really seem to connect. < 1314741845 326741 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen Clue's in the name. < 1314741845 538418 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My instant messenger doesn't work. < 1314741852 314942 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought vixen replied in lowercase < 1314741867 675757 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741867 747823 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"#$%&'()*+,\"" < 1314741877 840620 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: FireFly < 1314741882 500968 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen what is love? < 1314741882 671787 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's don't talk about that < 1314741886 616735 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: what just happened there. < 1314741886 947931 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : ?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw <-- what? < 1314741889 420175 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741889 491650 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception: <> < 1314741890 747795 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen What is grammar? < 1314741890 837488 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you guess? < 1314741902 527848 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741908 173417 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, what is that < 1314741909 255159 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741909 327019 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception: <> < 1314741915 877607 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, and how can you remember it < 1314741918 509705 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741919 514416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen Are you a fish? < 1314741919 727957 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you know the answer to that one, silly < 1314741920 12471 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen Why don't you work. < 1314741920 171486 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your favorite cheese? Mines baloney. < 1314741925 238119 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1314741929 149313 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :?abc < 1314741929 223429 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: arr ask bf ghc rc src < 1314741932 452350 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1314741934 836217 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :?what < 1314741934 925192 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : @where , return element associated with key < 1314741939 373115 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :?.....asdkwahgakdsjf < 1314741939 459071 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1314741942 359332 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1314741942 431085 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.haskell.org/lambdabot/COMMANDS < 1314741942 503951 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741956 324834 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741956 397176 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"" < 1314741958 135818 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741958 208629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"#$%&'()*+,\"" < 1314741960 447388 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen I am not ral gud at dayts what is the dayt < 1314741960 599752 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing good is on TV < 1314741961 985195 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... < 1314741963 260975 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741963 333339 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just 'J' < 1314741963 842463 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314741964 109581 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741964 182722 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception: <> < 1314741969 286646 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → sleep
< 1314741970 355887 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1314741970 438544 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, wtf *is* yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw for < 1314741973 83 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741973 71782 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception: <> < 1314741974 566312 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741974 637644 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\" < 1314741975 149823 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741979 680510 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741980 760700 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.26 NICK :yhjulwwiefzojcbx < 1314741987 28434 :yhjulwwiefzojcbx!~elliott@95.149.229.26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314741987 100242 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"" < 1314741988 999994 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you aren't < 1314741990 172700 :yhjulwwiefzojcbx!~elliott@95.149.229.26 NICK :elliott < 1314741993 59379 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are yhjulwwiefzojcbx < 1314741998 167205 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is shorter < 1314741998 414312 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.26 QUIT :Changing host < 1314741998 486438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1314742001 708812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742001 708971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742001 779949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"" < 1314742001 852108 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"#$%&'()*+,\"" < 1314742001 924811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742002 23003 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"" < 1314742002 96045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742002 169955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception: <> < 1314742002 242835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742002 314571 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"#$%&'()*+,\"" < 1314742007 607420 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake NICK :Hammurabi < 1314742018 724747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742018 796303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"#$%&'()*+,\"" < 1314742020 88887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742020 175844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"#$%&'()*+,\"" < 1314742020 837028 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake NICK :Hammerabi < 1314742021 333005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742021 405433 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just 'J' < 1314742022 491263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742022 577575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"#$%&'()*+,\"" < 1314742023 506944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742023 580717 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception: <> < 1314742024 507712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742024 580925 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\" < 1314742026 849129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?quote < 1314742026 921855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf says: boost::lambda: The ultimate error message. < 1314742045 218783 :Hammerabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake NICK :Hammurabi < 1314742048 185354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?quote < 1314742048 258358 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinusTorvalds says: The slogan of Subversion for a while was 'CVS done right', or something like that, and if you start with that kind of slogan, there's nowhere you can go. There is no way to do < 1314742048 329723 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CVS right. < 1314742057 349100 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?v < 1314742057 421749 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just 'J' < 1314742059 992843 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?v < 1314742060 64929 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just 'J' < 1314742060 810533 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1314742062 458561 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?v < 1314742062 530814 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\" < 1314742064 109599 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :?v < 1314742064 181632 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just 'J' < 1314742067 156912 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :?v < 1314742067 229186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception: <> < 1314742069 712586 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1314742073 249030 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :?sup < 1314742073 322392 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: bug map run slap src < 1314742080 780960 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :?y < 1314742080 853345 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: yarr yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw yow . ? @ v < 1314742086 628668 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :?yow < 1314742086 754172 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find fortune file < 1314742086 826189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?quote < 1314742086 903316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :megeria says: i am so new to haskell that i still have the new car smell < 1314742092 478934 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?keal < 1314742092 551655 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the [nsa] even make light green both ways once < 1314742094 718698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742094 791243 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"" < 1314742105 513203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?/ pl keal < 1314742105 626705 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ v < 1314742107 282777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?. pl keal < 1314742107 356752 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's 24 hour project was supposed to be logical overloading using plegm method < 1314742113 176708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?. pl v < 1314742113 260733 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"#$%&'()*+,\"" < 1314742116 129269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?quote < 1314742116 202392 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mattam says: [Monads are] much more elegant [than soccer] in general. < 1314742143 760901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?quote < 1314742143 834460 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `quote' failed with: getRandItem: empty list < 1314742147 885390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1314742151 248612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not good < 1314742162 74394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ggood quote < 1314742166 993973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?quote < 1314742167 67775 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `quote' failed with: getRandItem: empty list < 1314742168 844387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?quote < 1314742168 916835 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Numbers.Primes says: The number 6 is a good value to pass to this function. < 1314742184 203890 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha I found out the story of yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742193 906478 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?help yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742193 980655 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :V RETURNS! < 1314742198 353881 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?help v < 1314742198 427084 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let v = show v in v < 1314742199 923660 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, by googling < 1314742212 923275 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first result was someone telling sgeo to do ?help on it right < 1314742215 858984 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that just for me < 1314742219 654242 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, further down < 1314742226 250087 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im lazey < 1314742234 993677 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, apperently v used to be an internal variable that did strange things when printed when evaluating expressions < 1314742241 555280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"strange things" < 1314742241 720158 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they renamed that variable to yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742244 778589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal discovers fix < 1314742252 932633 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm? < 1314742276 509348 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm just checking what I found by googling < 1314742277 810829 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: fix < 1314742281 972159 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://itarchive.org/7410/116 < 1314742289 130210 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I see < 1314742301 757898 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :this could be wrong though < 1314742320 675410 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like a mangled copy of the #haskell irc logs < 1314742335 140902 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, yeah was the only one I found describing it though < 1314742335 555334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I've forgotten how to write N3 < 1314742345 920515 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, press N then press 3 < 1314742349 378844 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the original logs from then are still kept by some log keepers < 1314742368 694702 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, well anyway, is that story behind that command correct? < 1314742373 896659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no < 1314742377 571288 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah < 1314742383 886177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to answer and question < 1314742389 729152 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so the real story was? < 1314742391 621841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let v = take 9 (show v) in v < 1314742392 281169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\" < 1314742395 990991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let v = Just (head (show v)) in v < 1314742396 655430 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just 'J' < 1314742396 892358 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314742403 914487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let v = take 9 [head (show v)..] in v < 1314742404 703265 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\"#$%&'()*" < 1314742413 404787 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t v < 1314742413 986571 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr < 1314742417 355454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :irrelevant < 1314742419 827325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i think it would be > show v, then < 1314742425 682823 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :> show v < 1314742426 271695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1314742426 343346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh wrong window < 1314742426 415566 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "v" < 1314742436 454382 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :> show q < 1314742437 126046 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "q" < 1314742439 343030 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1314742441 215061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1314742443 462836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> x+9 / q < 1314742444 165722 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : x + 9 / q < 1314742447 989806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum [x+9 / q..] < 1314742448 770710 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: not a number < 1314742455 494890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum (take 9 [(x+9 / q)..]) < 1314742456 192522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: not a number < 1314742457 299502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that feature is long since gone < 1314742458 886706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1314742479 705034 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1314742480 456673 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw' < 1314742482 919804 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1314742495 153447 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric is having a tantrum spiral. < 1314742500 676059 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, right. But what did it do actually < 1314742503 816226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A libray for generating circuits for Xilinx FPGAs with layout. < 1314742508 508557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh coooOOOOoooooOOOooOOOooOOOooOOoooOOOooOOOooOOOoooOOooOOOoooOOoooooooOOoooooooooooooOOOooooooooOOOooooOOoooool < 1314742513 615636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill actually write redsynth < 1314742519 462747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i told you < 1314742524 172697 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, fix? < 1314742526 405377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<elliott> > let v = take 9 (show v) in v < 1314742526 653584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<lambdabot> "\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\" < 1314742526 736054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<elliott> > let v = Just (head (show v)) in v < 1314742526 808526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<lambdabot> Just 'J' < 1314742526 808675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Vorpal> ah < 1314742527 67542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<elliott> > let v = take 9 [head (show v)..] in v < 1314742528 780679 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that was all? < 1314742529 28517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<lambdabot> "\"#$%&'()*" < 1314742532 223556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ffs < 1314742534 333788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot code: < 1314742551 618995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :result <- run_haskell_file ("let v = " ++ expr ++ " in print v") < 1314742553 428248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :send_to_irc result < 1314742557 381916 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, aha < 1314742560 758636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : > show v < 1314742565 61691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\"\\\"... < 1314742571 661525 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, right. XD < 1314742720 173322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : * SimonM: People don't seem to believe me when I say this. In < 1314742720 380523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : retrospect we shouldn't have called it forkOS, we should have < 1314742720 453970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : called it forkReallyExpensiveOnlyNecessaryForCallingOpenGL_IO. < 1314742720 454183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good quote < 1314742877 711272 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> v + 1 < 1314742878 412486 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : v + 1 < 1314742937 963918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> v ** v < 1314742938 695507 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : v**v < 1314742947 620321 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> v^v < 1314742949 593656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (v**) < 1314742952 458393 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1314742953 215671 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**v**... < 1314742964 444976 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> v^4 < 1314742966 771608 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : v * v * (v * v) < 1314742968 399052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hammurabi: *MWAHAHAHA* (aka, that's why i didn't use that) < 1314742968 931165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I take it forking into multiple processes in Haskell is mostly a bad idea because there are more idiomatic ways to do the equivalent of threads? < 1314742987 425725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you don't know what forkOS does :) < 1314742995 658669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't < 1314743002 684723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, your question makes assumptions about what forkOS does < 1314743005 565677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just asking a vaguely related question < 1314743011 795183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it implies it makes assumptions < 1314743016 391188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forkIO creates a spark; forkOS creates an OS thread < 1314743017 650098 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't forkOS basically forking an OS thread? < 1314743020 925071 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, < 1314743021 839387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doesn't explicitly create any < 1314743023 472153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS threads are incredibly slow < 1314743026 518154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sparks are nearly free < 1314743027 345271 :Hammurabi!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake NICK :CakeProphet < 1314743039 655226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hammurabi: ** is a method, so can be redefined for the Expr type, while ^ is a function which requires its second argument to actually work as a proper Integral < 1314743041 566179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forkOS is only required when using thread-local storage via the FFI, or when a library demands all calls be made from one thread < 1314743049 23189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. SDL, OpenGL < 1314743051 317382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :, GTK < 1314743064 527448 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes I understand that I just wasn't sure what the result of ^ would be. < 1314743064 942621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only for that one thread < 1314743071 219727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of libc, in fact < 1314743075 132297 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pred v < 1314743075 924538 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : pred v < 1314743087 6545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do sparks sometimes translate into OS threads? or are they always done internally? < 1314743092 615237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : most of libc, in fact < 1314743094 295663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1314743101 816350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and sparks are basically threadpooled < 1314743116 943777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are all those _r functions < 1314743122 321474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm < 1314743126 201516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, threads are separate < 1314743136 319693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there's a thread pool, /and/ a spark pool < 1314743137 637564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to replace non-threadsafe non-recursionsafe libc functions < 1314743143 784147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: here's a pretty diagram: http://i.imgur.com/f57Hm.png < 1314743153 621589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: forkIO doesn't create just a spark, par does that. afair. < 1314743159 980320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: see two lines ago < 1314743167 647080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and "As a result sparks are very cheap (you might have billions of them in a program, while you probably won't have more than a million Haskell threads, and less than a dozen OS threads on half a dozen cores)." < 1314743171 433356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you communicate between sparks? < 1314743181 572302 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is no < 1314743186 23894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I think that's the main thing defining them < 1314743194 276125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's all sorts of parallel strategies you can do < 1314743197 477545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but threads are green threads, unless using forkOS < 1314743211 338802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they still run on multiple threads, though < 1314743214 866731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/parallel/3.1.0.1/doc/html/Control-Parallel-Strategies.html) < 1314743222 149532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that () is for my statement about strategies) < 1314743223 793718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they're pure code, so no < 1314743223 866579 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can communicate with IORefs, MVars, and TVars and such yet? < 1314743225 801302 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yes < 1314743229 51552 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"green" means "done using stack manipulation tricks not things like processes", right? < 1314743234 220865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: using :: a -> Strategy a -> aSource < 1314743234 468759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evaluate a value using the given Strategy. < 1314743234 541232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : x `using` s = runEval (s x) < 1314743236 911927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sparks are pure < 1314743240 101702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was my guess < 1314743241 394027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: all those require a monad < 1314743246 334182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oerjan's use of green is a bit misleading < 1314743249 373485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sparks don't < 1314743250 283872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they're lightweight threads < 1314743254 897908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right < 1314743266 189779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: green usually means "lightweight threads with no OS thread pooling" < 1314743273 115840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's my impression < 1314743285 752824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh right, so only cooperative ones are green? < 1314743286 945103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you _only_ need forkOS when you need to deal with other libraries < 1314743292 217746 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps we are talking about different things then. I was talking about forkIO and thread communication. < 1314743295 180575 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t forkIO < 1314743297 240642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember teaching students how to create lightweight threads using the signal handler hack < 1314743297 910073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `forkIO' < 1314743299 299465 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle forkIO < 1314743299 708497 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Concurrent forkIO :: IO () -> IO ThreadId < 1314743304 652507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, or preemptive but done in the language VM? < 1314743314 622623 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: forkIO uses the IO monad. < 1314743316 106106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: ah forkIO can use all those. i thought you were talking about sparks still < 1314743321 95109 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, elliott, in erlang green threads are used to refer to the erlang threads sometimes. They are run on one or more scheduler threads (those are OS level threads) < 1314743337 233337 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, no I don't know what those are. :P it involves par though right? < 1314743338 60973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On a multi-core processor, native thread implementations can automatically assign work to multiple processors, whereas green thread implementations normally cannot.[1][2]" < 1314743338 225940 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I would say oerjan's usage is fine. < 1314743342 111933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: then that is non-standard terminology < 1314743357 509097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/parallel/3.1.0.1/doc/html/Control-Parallel-Strategies.html is preferable to using par directly most of the time < 1314743378 850897 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, fairly common though. Green threads are scheduled by native threads scheduled by the OS < 1314743391 716315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: those are lightweight threads < 1314743407 866769 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, have been called green threads since the days before erlang supported SMP < 1314743418 156279 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression "lightweght" and "green" were the same in that context. < 1314743429 778844 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, same < 1314743431 851635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: then that's just a continuation of outdated terminology < 1314743438 354195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-weight_process < 1314743442 877167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_threads < 1314743449 659096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are some other virtual machine programming languages that still implement equivalents of green threads instead of native threads. Examples: < 1314743449 907036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell" < 1314743452 186331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe this article is just shit < 1314743487 115876 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, "In computer programming, green threads are threads that are scheduled by a virtual machine (VM) instead of natively by the underlying operating system." <-- yep true. It is just that the VM schedules them on several different underlying OS threads. < 1314743504 528430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1314743679 734678 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314743928 907087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is log-structured storage just storing diffs instead of modifying the original data? < 1314743931 903476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ais523?) < 1314743963 96939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "log-structured"? < 1314743995 704045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok, I picked the wrong person to ping < 1314744004 474571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1314744074 204062 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ability to undo changes at the expense of more storage required and more expensive reads. < 1314744125 470799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: that does not answer my question, and I don't know of any self-branded log-structured storages that offer undos < 1314744133 339019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless crash recovery counts, which isn't quite the same thing < 1314744164 693573 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm, is log-structured storage just storing diffs instead of modifying the original data? <-- I think it stores changes sectors (for log structured file systems at least) but don't quote me on that < 1314744195 693232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314744195 693563 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314744195 693790 :chickenzilla!~zack@olol.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314744195 693865 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314744195 694109 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314744200 948052 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314744200 948211 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314744200 948292 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314744208 566285 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and try nilfs2, it offers undo by mounting old versions of the file system. < 1314744224 88259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: so instead of having 9 sectors on your disk, it has 9n, where n is the length of the log? < 1314744237 195385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to read, it reads the last log entry; to write, it appends the new data to the log, or overwrites the oldest entry if there's no space? < 1314744253 328614 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm thinking of versioning file systems, actually. like files-11 < 1314744266 47496 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, uh. Well if you changed sector 4 then only that one would have to be stored again. Well block rather, they tend to be larger than disk sectors these days < 1314744274 447555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: and then crash recovery is just reverting the most recent change (for fs-wide, not sector-wide values of "most recent"), until it's consistent? < 1314744288 173558 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that I don't know. < 1314744291 897773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott, uh. Well if you changed sector 4 then only that one would have to be stored again. Well block rather, they tend to be larger than disk sectors these days < 1314744295 604988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i say that contradicted this? < 1314744322 577186 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well you said 9n, if you changed one of those sectors it wouldn't be 9*2 but more like 9+1 < 1314744328 374951 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus some metadata < 1314744349 105791 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway that is my understanding of them. But don't quote me on it < 1314744350 227460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has 9n storage globally < 1314744355 197357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, SCO have just lost their appeal against Novell, which will probably actually shut down the court cases < 1314744356 281788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the disk has 9 sectors, and a log has a fixed length < 1314744358 640977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1314744360 848817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :their only appeal left now is to the Supreme Court < 1314744365 7311 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh I meant for a file of 9 sectors < 1314744367 804844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sounds good to me < 1314744370 555995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any bets on whether they'll try it or not? < 1314744382 643827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you didn't say anything about files, you just talked about sectors; Btree stuff has sectors too, not just files < 1314744387 991894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's one log per file? < 1314744391 937297 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, no, I say it is 50/50 on that < 1314744403 214959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'll bet 99 pounds they don't < 1314744409 526677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because the enjoyment of them doing so is worth 99 pounds to me < 1314744410 169720 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I meant that it stores sectors you changed again, not diffs of them < 1314744415 792757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the 99 pounds will help soften the blow if they don't < 1314744435 814184 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but I only studied log structured file systems a tiny bit < 1314744436 986309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in future, lawyers should probably not agree to be paid in advance < 1314744441 501481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's just a sector-based diff < 1314744446 535483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of how many appeals < 1314744451 751399 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well yeah < 1314744462 211470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'd feel bad for them if they didn't deserve it < 1314744497 547325 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I read somewhere that the problem of write leveling in SSDs is very similar to the problems encountered in implementing log structured filesystems. < 1314744544 956093 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and that TRIM provides the SSD with the knowledge that space can be reused, which a file system has anyway. But a SSD can't know as easily. < 1314744579 686058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I expect it to go to the Supreme Court, and after that to various international courts. And maybe after that the interplanetary court. < 1314744592 355839 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, heh < 1314744626 92304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to know what log-structured storage is exactly; my current perception is: Each file is not stored as its sectors directly, but a fixed-size buffer of (sectornum,data); writes are done by appending (overwrite oldest entry if no space), reads are done by picking the most recent change with the right sector number < 1314744656 863612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is, how do you use this for crash recovery? for each file, store a "latest consistent state" number, and only increase it on fsync() of a whole file change? < 1314744658 809629 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, check wikipedia? < 1314744663 944726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I did; it was unhelpful < 1314744675 101380 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, check how nilfs2 is implemented? < 1314744694 311304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why nilfs? you've mentioned it twice so far < 1314744698 239718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's the first I've heard of it < 1314744710 30301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, or maybe I heard of it once before < 1314744722 736493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, that's stupid, I'm not going to dig around huge linux production code to find the definition of a simple conecpt < 1314744728 523763 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because it is in the linux kernel, it is modern, and it is log structured, and it provides undo by snapshot mounting < 1314744762 700242 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway I can't help you further I'm afraid. You reached the end of my knowledge on the subject < 1314744798 535407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why which kernel it is in matters if I'm not going to run it; and you expect me to understand a modern, complex filesystem without knowing the definition of its core concept?; so are other filesystems, presumably; k. < 1314744815 581286 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1314744815 581384 :chickenzilla!~zack@olol.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1314744815 581468 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1314744815 581550 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1314744815 581653 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314744815 581767 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1314744815 581861 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1314744831 956454 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh, I assumed you had the kernel source locally? < 1314744848 46614 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the reason < 1314744859 906508 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, you don't build your own kernels do you? < 1314744880 137495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Downloading a tarball is not a high barrier to entry. I think I have a Linux tarball around here somewhere, though. < 1314744972 76491 :sliddy!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1314745057 468418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the kernel source via the package manager < 1314745065 910818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are kernel source packages that just unpack in /usr/src < 1314745075 91140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as build dependencies for kernel modules < 1314745093 849081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear slicehost: stop emailing me about your upcoming death, I don't pay you anything or use your products < 1314745094 311140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mostly they just need kernel headers, but full kernel source is needed sometimes) < 1314745095 650936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : That's rude <-- well if i knew you were going to _speak_... < 1314745110 21190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: has it been completely absorbed into Rackspace, now? < 1314745116 805813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor _0x44 < 1314745120 186240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ooh, paste logs :P < 1314745124 340279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's going to be < 1314745143 500792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:03:25 * oerjan now imagines logarithmic structure of diffs. < 1314745143 666161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:03:32 argh < 1314745143 739053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:04:39 just me and the finns < 1314745143 739211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:05:15 --- quit: oerjan (Quit: leaving) < 1314745143 739319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:06:13 That's rude < 1314745144 494368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which is probably not entirely a bad thing, because their offerings have been ridiculously subpar for years now < 1314745157 949594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, http://www.slicehost.com/ no longer lists their servers, and is all about rackspace cloud servers < 1314745159 987797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it's happened < 1314745162 640382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever since they were bought in the first place? < 1314745174 411711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nope, they just never changed their offerings for years < 1314745178 621710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and everyone else's got better < 1314745184 313316 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to figure out what to do with these 1,500,000,000 bytes that I have < 1314745185 223540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fortunately there were one logbot on each side of the split < 1314745185 647848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose linode is the new equivalent to what slicehost used to be < 1314745191 520269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: prgmr :P < 1314745202 679366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slicehost used to be the service that nobody knows about but everyone recommends because they're really cheap < 1314745204 975795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prgmr's a bit more bare-metal, according to articles I've been reading < 1314745206 478898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and high-quality < 1314745215 347845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: slicehost offers the exact same amount of access to your server, i.e. ssh < 1314745216 168880 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : That's rude <-- well if i knew you were going to _speak_... <-- from where? < 1314745226 623794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only extra thing they have is, umm, they also offer DNS, and let you reflash the server with a new OS < 1314745227 854790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: from the other side of the netsplit < 1314745227 926883 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the other side of the split? < 1314745228 695508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas, say, linode actually have support, etc < 1314745239 213017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and prgmr aim for pure value < 1314745240 609499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: prgmr have support too, it's just four dollars a month worth of it < 1314745256 38083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but, well, obviously prgmr isn't identical to slicehost, but I think linode is an inaccurate comparison, because linode have been around much longer < 1314745260 375044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are very well-known < 1314745286 746844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, I see < 1314745293 938123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought slicehost were the best-known < 1314745304 232447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I've just grown up around weird people < 1314745329 482654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"grown up"? < 1314745332 861574 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, was slicehost VPS only? < 1314745336 316456 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did it have colo? < 1314745349 12358 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314745349 12450 :chickenzilla!~zack@olol.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314745349 12480 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314745349 12542 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314745349 12692 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314745349 12751 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314745349 12782 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1314745349 99689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: vps < 1314745352 872134 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1314745354 27151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :albeit, vps up to fifteen gigs of RAM < 1314745359 545914 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that is why I never heard of it. < 1314745362 703953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slicehost added bigger and bigger plans rather than making their cheap ones better < 1314745363 296561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye bye < 1314745364 653119 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, 15? why not 16? < 1314745417 651893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think individual people, as opposed to businesses, use colo very often < 1314745434 197889 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what about dedi then? < 1314745450 515141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even that's typically overkill < 1314745453 784511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although a little more reasonable < 1314745473 846174 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1314745473 918191 :chickenzilla!~zack@olol.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1314745473 918323 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1314745473 918401 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1314745473 918480 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314745473 918554 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1314745473 918628 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1314745478 792023 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1314745483 108370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :colo is pointless unless you're running an isp < 1314745488 321902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the internet service provider sense) < 1314745489 311905 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*1,500,000,000,000 < 1314745490 580819 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and renting your own rack? < 1314745498 366849 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just kidding) < 1314745511 540605 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1314745512 285923 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1314745517 648395 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can do math.
< 1314745528 433889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: logarithmic trees of diffs sounds like a really nice thing for scapegoat, but I'm not sure what it means < 1314745531 812700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: renting an entire rack would be massive overkill for anything but medium-to-large companies, and only then if they were in a business where it was a plausible thing to do < 1314745539 732297 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I know someone who rents a rack though. He runs a VPS company. < 1314745550 360738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, that actually makes sense < 1314745571 633713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as renting out VPS is one of the situations where you need an otherwise implausibly large number of servers < 1314745657 708542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: basically you'd save diffs between revisions 0 and 1, 1 and 2, 0 and 2, 2 and 3, 3 and 4, 2 and 4, 0 and 4, so you can always change between any two revisions in logarithmic time of their distance. just something that popped into my mind from the word "log", for all i know everyone already does that. < 1314745702 790528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a similar idea to a skiplist? < 1314745703 989288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, you have diffs between revisions k*2^n and (k +- 1)*2^n < 1314745727 53655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :± < 1314745730 407290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it's in my compose < 1314745733 692726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :25403 root 20 0 253m 148m 78m R 34 4.0 39:38.80 Xorg < 1314745733 886592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've wanted that key for ages < 1314745735 585480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing... < 1314745742 661595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I have × too < 1314745744 339109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is great! < 1314745752 454210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't recall what a skiplist is < 1314745770 284065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither do I, exactly, but it's something like that < 1314745835 545629 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, for a file system I think it would be acceptable to just store original file in full, the current file in full and diffs from 0-1,1-2,2-3 and so on. That optimizes for reading current version and writing new versions, while still keeping small space. Accessing older versions would probably not be as common as accessing the last one < 1314745875 368869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well this idea was specifically to limit the time to go between arbitrary revisions < 1314745881 204622 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah yeah < 1314745909 115816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i will reply once i read your lines (this will be within a minuet or so), helpful messages from elliott < 1314745926 769479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines elliott dancing around his room
< 1314746058 578847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we are releasing new versions of Firefox for desktop (3.6.21, 6.0.1, 7, 8, and 9)" < 1314746064 527336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VERSION NUMBERS DO NOT WORK LIKE THAT < 1314746070 972337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google keeps adding annoying features, it now gives a spelling warning for my already correctly spelled minuet < 1314746117 24302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it's reasonable given why i googled it < 1314746142 3487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the traditional versioning system doesn't work very well, though < 1314746150 4483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1314746176 60511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1314746238 542503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think you're supposed to add "GOODNIGHT." < 1314746249 754406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+. < 1314746275 964030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well that one makes even less sense < 1314746285 109417 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :very little HD throughput, high CPU usage < 1314746293 348788 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be because my hard drive is encrypted? < 1314746309 68107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: or because you're doing something that isn't I/O-bound? < 1314746314 803282 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1314746318 171961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's because it's all being rerouted to the NSA < 1314746321 91248 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 23:07:37: elliott: basically you'd save diffs between revisions 0 and 1, 1 and 2, 0 and 2, 2 and 3, 3 and 4, 2 and 4, 0 and 4, so you can always change between any two revisions in logarithmic time of their distance. just something that popped into my mind from the word "log", for all i know everyone already does that. < 1314746324 972816 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh that's pretty < 1314746326 966918 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: sg could do that :) < 1314746329 18073 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: rather than storing full contents of files < 1314746330 981812 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (for speed) < 1314746335 498807 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm currently moving 77 GBs of music to a 1.5 TB external hard drive < 1314746347 16596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1314746347 448601 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Encryption takes 0 CPU < 1314746357 474841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: perhaps plausible < 1314746359 44291 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about decryption? < 1314746365 50612 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Encryption/decryption is much less expensive than a disk operation < 1314746366 18685 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :as that is what I am currently doing. < 1314746372 133169 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why HD encryption is irrelevant < 1314746372 957975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: depends on whether it's hardware encryption or not, I suppose < 1314746373 997961 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed-wise < 1314746376 630272 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no < 1314746381 41171 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: disks are /really really slow/ < 1314746382 755904 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPUs aren't < 1314746389 79085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and whether they encrypted the whole thing at once < 1314746396 925363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that would be silly < 1314746404 336317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, needing to decrypt the whole disk just to access one file) < 1314746409 723515 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a CPU is twiddling its thumbs when the HD is being read, decrypting a few kilobytes won't stop that boredom < 1314746421 968579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't a CPU running other processes while waiting for the HD? < 1314746438 566613 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but thread-switching happens anyway < 1314746439 178482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPUs run other threads merely while waiting for memory accesses to happen < 1314746445 605310 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and encryption/decryption of a small amount of data is cheap < 1314746455 808743 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol skype is using all of my CPU < 1314746458 112806 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. fucking. buggy. < 1314746458 112987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1314746466 708152 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha skype < 1314746481 561142 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILLALL SKYPE < 1314746484 592219 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, I'm not so sure firefox's versioning system makes no sense < 1314746496 842812 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people who get confused by it usually seem to be techies < 1314746506 140857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't figure out why they have three different independent alphas < 1314746507 612358 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are a rather bad sample < 1314746524 103385 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: have you heard of branches? < 1314746526 234876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(presumably 7/8/9 are alpha because the version number stayed the same upon a change) < 1314746533 744537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: yes, but normally they're for different purposes than that < 1314746540 228311 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the work being done on 9 will presumably be about new faetures and things that can break a lot < 1314746545 75 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can imagine two alphas because of feature freeze branch < 1314746548 495399 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas 7 will be bugfixes and modest improvements < 1314746552 168238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not really more than that < 1314746552 742631 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 8 will be somewhere in-between < 1314746571 234774 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: firefox has always had separate branches for versions < 1314746574 982768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are changes being pulled from 7 into 8, and 8 into 9? then it makes a bit more sense < 1314746589 437364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :branches for stable versions also makes sense, so you can backport security fixes, etc < 1314746599 644097 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, the question is, have they ever been? < 1314746608 50236 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way, this is no /less/ sane < 1314746622 784458 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I suspect they do merging nearer release time < 1314746629 223617 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not a Mozilla dev, so I don't know < 1314746738 899525 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, hd encryption does slow down for other processes a bit. Since time spent decrypting could otherwise be used to compute stuff for other tasks. That is of course a rather specialised situation (will only matter when load without encryption would be close to 100% utilization). < 1314746749 948211 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in practise it doesn't make a difference < 1314746757 293929 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can say that from my own experience < 1314746772 445887 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it takes CPU time, it just takes much less CPU time than just about everything else. < 1314746809 58654 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, might be measurable for a really fast SSD though < 1314746822 767835 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSDs are limited by things other than SSDs < 1314746830 231998 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. SATA < 1314746845 316770 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, that is 6 GB/s isn't it? < 1314746849 189770 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or GBit? < 1314746853 71386 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot < 1314746856 604020 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more about latency I think < 1314746872 962221 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do know that apparently plugging SSD chips directly into the CPU speeds things up a lot :P < 1314746879 252492 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1314746960 893249 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, anyway, latency won't be an issue if you want to read a huge file or write a huge file in a linear way. That situation would happen on suspend and resume for example < 1314746983 360920 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure it matters, unless the kernel just sends off the entire file and waits < 1314746992 883657 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it's done at the sector level or whatever < 1314746995 923817 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nautilus is using 20% CPU right. < 1314747017 952736 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :40%, but I've got two cores so it counts to 200% < 1314747024 375961 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I thought ATA commands existed to write more than one sector at a time < 1314747033 850198 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe I'm confusing it with SAS or some such < 1314747043 259754 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Probably still limited, surely < 1314747054 719329 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, anyway the SSD has a queue too. Native Command Queue < 1314747070 451225 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, so you can send off 31 requests in one go < 1314747086 587443 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thirty one is less than like thousands < 1314747096 4169 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, hm < 1314747569 606947 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wow, pastebin.ca exists < 1314747577 236573 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to lack formatting, though < 1314747592 716444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: pastebin.ca (specifically pastebin, not the other services) came back up a while ago < 1314747612 771711 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it went down again, no? < 1314747627 890803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I wasn't looking < 1314747674 959540 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1314747698 685974 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1314748573 865364 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to optimise shiro
< 1314748590 474771 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey copumpkin, why would a record with an existential be slower than a typeclass < 1314748602 429055 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously you are the expert < 1314748689 440011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection