00:00:49 " i am merely investigating regarding the possibility of translating norwegian tongue-twisters" <<< if that twists your tongue, you norwegians must have really sucky mouths. 00:01:17 oklopol: wait what, i have never watched family guy 00:01:28 a jap once called me a "genius" when i managed to pronounce "it is warm" in japanese, that is, "atatakakatta" 00:01:35 *genius 00:02:11 oklopol: That's "It was warm". 00:02:19 i guess that _would_ be easier for finns than most other europeans 00:03:30 oklopol: you are of course supposed to say "Fru Ibsens ripsbusker og andre buskvekster" as fast as possible, repeatedly 00:03:35 "It is warm" is 'just' "atatakai". 00:04:00 double genius 00:04:15 " This is presumably the layman's definition of graph, not an actual graph graph." <<< they layman definition of the graph of f of course being that it is the set f 00:06:58 " So, it's equivalent to Lambda Calculus?" <<< yep but the usual conversion algo from lc to ski has an exponential blowup 00:08:50 " but the worst :(" <<< no best 00:09:58 " oklopol: wait what, i have never watched family guy" <<< they just randomly sang that song once. 00:10:54 ' oklopol: That's "It was warm"' <<< i'm aware, whoops; i think the error originated from me being afraid of managing to screw up the trivial translation given that you would point it out in a second 00:11:52 pikhq: does "taka ka kata ga atatakakatta ka" mean what i think it does? 00:12:34 was either the hawk or the shoulder warm? 00:13:25 -!- myndzi\ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 00:15:09 " oklopol: you are of course ..." <<< given that you can only screw up "buskvekster" (prolly since it doesn't mean anything), all you have to do is pay some attention at the end of every repetition 00:15:22 oklopol: Pretty much. 00:16:16 i'm slightly annoyed by the "ga" there but don't really see a way around it 00:16:55 "taka ka kata kÃ atatakaka'ta ka" Bam, fixed. :P 00:17:01 :D 00:17:04 oklopol: um what about ripsbusker 00:18:10 no way to fail at that 00:18:22 i can just repeat that ad infinitum 00:18:42 maybe i don't know how it's pronounced 00:19:42 well okay, i can repeat it about 10 times 00:19:58 the only silent consonant in that phrase is the "g" in "og" 00:20:07 *silent letter 00:20:24 norwegian does not, in general, have silent vowels 00:26:03 http://www.vjn.fi/temporary%20shit/ibsen.wma ? 00:27:52 that was my second attempt tho, didn't choose the number of repetitions the first time so i screwed up a bit at the end 00:28:01 maybe i screwed up there too but didn't notice at least 00:28:33 i'm not going to listen to that now, i'd wake up people 00:28:38 i don't know what busk and vekster mean so it hard to get the k and s right 00:28:50 alright, it's not very interesting 00:29:29 busk = bush, shrub 00:29:40 well obviously i know that 00:29:58 vekster = plants, growth 00:30:11 and yeah, i know i said i didn't 00:30:16 didn't really know vekster tho 00:30:28 although kind of obvious as well 00:30:40 given swedish "grow" 00:32:44 my favorite finnish one is "mun mummuni muni mun mammani, mun mammani muni mun" 00:35:10 * oerjan learns that the Hollywood sign originally said Hollywoodland 00:35:27 i just watched a hustle episode where they said that 00:35:41 SYNCHRONICITY 00:36:03 so actually it's "mum mummuni muni mum mammani mum mammani muni mum" when pronounced by usual finnish fast pronunciation rules, lemme record that for funsies as well 00:37:33 not very good 00:38:02 http://www.vjn.fi/temporary%20shit/mummuni.wma 00:40:21 ran out of air pretty fast and did the first one slow so got just 5 before running out of air 00:40:25 erm 00:40:30 what's wrong with my sentencing this week 00:44:34 oerjan: actually the whole ep was about the sign, since they sold it 00:45:10 so very synch 00:52:30 mhm 00:52:53 * oerjan learned it from wikipedia's front page, btw 00:53:06 the episode is very very old 00:53:20 ah 00:53:22 so there can really be no connection 00:54:06 SPOOKY 00:54:07 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 00:54:34 oerjan: hey why did the topological space have a hole? 00:55:56 because its parents were danish pilots! 00:57:00 this is worse than reddit's forced waffles/carrots meme 00:57:10 what's that? 00:57:17 DEAD 00:57:33 idgi 00:57:52 that was _not_ an attempt to explain. 00:58:20 more of an attempt to urge you to run, before it's too late 00:58:36 i think the danish pilot meme is still better than my famous bisexual meme since i never really even got the famous bisexual thing myself. 00:59:21 memes are so egoistic 00:59:36 they are? 00:59:44 yes, they contain "me" twice 00:59:52 :DS 00:59:56 * oklopol slows 01:02:21 hm apparently the english insist on spelling that meaning as "egotistic", for some reason. 01:02:44 yeah 01:02:50 i always found that compuddling 01:04:41 how cromulent 01:04:55 rather the elapsidance. 01:14:31 ah found it: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2295#comic 01:15:46 sticktothativeness 01:17:06 sounds like something finnish would have a case for 01:17:42 they anti-yessed my applicatrix 01:21:19 http://www.smbc-comics.com/?db=comics&id=428#comic these are really good i should binge 01:23:16 http://www.smbc-comics.com/?db=comics&id=2088#comic xkcd kind of did the reverse of this 01:23:38 or was it xkcd 01:23:40 that pi thing 01:26:52 http://www.smbc-comics.com/?db=comics&id=1913#comic :DSDSDAFADSFASDFDSA 01:30:41 -!- myndzi has joined. 01:37:15 smbc cynicism is weary 01:42:52 http://www.smbc-comics.com/?db=comics&id=493#comic 01:42:56 maybe i'm just tired :DSDFADFADFS 01:43:13 i've actually seen most of these way many times 01:52:33 oklopol, you know about goatkcd don't you 01:53:35 maybe 01:53:44 is it xkcd but goatse in every square 01:53:46 I tried sending many files to CTAN, including chess typing program (including fonts), grid overlay program, PBM overlay program, Dungeons & Dragons recording program, but nothing is sent!! 01:53:49 or just the last one 01:54:05 so what's CTAN 01:54:18 CTAN = Comprehensive TeX Archive Network 01:55:22 Do you want these programs? 01:55:33 no! 01:55:39 i have all i need 01:56:36 Maybe it is not useful to you if these are not the kind of things you are trying to type (or if you don't use Plain TeX). 01:57:12 i use latex 01:57:23 and also no, i don't type chess 01:58:58 The Dungeons&Dragons recording program, I use it every time I am playing Dungeons&Dragons game. I find it useful for this. 02:00:16 i've played a few games as a kid 02:00:45 This file contains all story events and character sheet data (and the entire history of the character sheet data for that game, with the exception that I couldn't put the one at start due to lack of data) for one game: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/recording/shaman.tex 02:00:49 oklopol: What version? 02:01:56 doesn't matter that much the way my friends play it 02:02:09 rather freeform 02:08:39 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Good night). 02:09:05 oklopol, no, just the last square 02:09:10 and interestingly enough the comic book is ALWAYS better than the original 02:13:43 weird 02:16:39 Vittu nostaa. 02:16:59 Ino aminen lÃ¤ksi. 02:19:11 samat sanat 02:20:09 Sana sanat sanat sana. 02:22:03 Perkelin vittu, I can't access Wiktionary. 02:22:28 perkeleen 02:22:34 Really? 02:22:50 if you mean the genitive of perkele 02:23:03 I do. 02:23:13 Who is this Perkele guy, again? 02:23:30 I'm guessing whoever he is, he doesn't actually have a vittu. 02:23:35 But no matter. 02:24:18 perkele is originally the finnish god of thunder afaik, nowadays mostly means satan 02:24:46 Huh. 02:26:21 well i mean really it's just a curse word nowadays, but typecast into a guy, i would say he's the christian satan 02:26:32 * tswett_ nods. 02:26:49 I should perhaps figure out how to say some useful stuff. 02:26:53 Kuva. 02:27:22 kuva puree lammasta 02:27:33 Suomen kuva lasti kÃ¶ri. I think that stopped being Finnish pretty quickly on. 02:27:46 Yes, what is what? 02:28:06 köri isn't finnish afaik 02:28:19 Is lasti? 02:28:22 except köri köri is something a silly car might say 02:28:36 körötellessään. 02:28:53 lasti means like a truckload 02:29:01 or an ejaculation 02:29:04 I see. 02:29:46 Lammasta heimo syÃ¶dÃ¤. 02:30:15 Koira syÃ¶dÃ¤Ã¤ lammasta. 02:31:05 syödää is not finnish 02:31:07 Sota. 02:31:15 and i don't really understand "Lammasta heimo syÃ¶dÃ¤." 02:31:39 Well, I don't know what "lammasta" means, so I figured I would just say it in the hopes that I would find out somehow. 02:31:43 "syödä lammasta heimo" is an okay verb ofc 02:31:54 meaning "to eat a sheep a tribe" 02:32:03 I see. 02:32:18 lammasta = partitive of sheep 02:32:20 And what's the third-person singular present of "syÃ¶dÃ¤"? 02:32:29 And what's the accusative of that? 02:32:31 but here it's just like the accusative case 02:32:33 No, the nominative. 02:32:34 essentially 02:32:46 third-person singular present = syö 02:32:53 I see. 02:32:58 Laskea irti. 02:33:15 to let go 02:33:38 HÃ¶vemÃ¤pÃ¤sti. 02:33:47 that's nothing 02:34:05 I'm good at Finnish. :D 02:37:06 also while you say syödä lammasta heimo in context like "silloin tällöin on mukavaa syödä lammasta heimo jos toinenkin" (occasionally it's nice to eat a sheep a tribe or two), you have to say either "minä syön lammasta heimon" or "minä syön lammasta heimoa" 02:37:31 in minä syön lammasta heimo, i can only see the parsing that makes heimo vocative 02:38:41 *contexts 02:39:49 * oklopol checks that heimo is actually a finnish word 03:02:36 Jeeze. Google+ is at 10 million users. 03:02:39 It's been a week. 03:03:47 is google+ as good as google? 03:04:53 It's a Facebook competitor that's reasonably integrated with Google's other services. And reasonably well-implemented. 03:05:03 oh that thing 03:05:28 i doubt i'll ever touch that one either 04:38:56 -!- asiekierkaDS has joined. 04:39:09 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 04:39:18 -!- kwertii has joined. 04:52:48 -!- Nisstyre has joined. 04:52:50 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 04:53:33 -!- Nisstyre has joined. 04:59:28 -!- asiekierkaDS has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 05:30:06 I wrote this http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/recording/level20.tex Is it good name of a character? (The text after \Character is their name) 05:41:23 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 05:41:56 -!- Sgeo has joined. 06:09:06 zzo38: export to pdf plox. this device has no tex on it 06:09:48 I uninstalled that program already 06:10:11 zzo38: I do not believe that to be a good character name as I cannot pronounce it unless it is Welsh 06:10:24 dvi or ps is fine too i think 06:10:29 and even then I'm not convinced it's pronouncable 06:10:29 Can't you read the source file? In fact, the source file contains some comments that would not be printed out anyways (on a PDF or otherwise) 06:10:46 it failed to download 06:10:47 How would you pronounce it if it is Welsh? 06:11:58 Failed to download? I can export a DVI file although like I said, it contains comments and parts that are incomplete and will fail to print correctly. 06:12:31 zzo38: I don't know; I do not know Welsh. 06:12:42 However, Welsh has 'w' as a vowel which may make it pronounceable 06:13:19 You have a sequence of 6 consonants there 06:13:20 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 06:14:20 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 06:15:18 I made up the name at random on my calculator and added a space by myself. I could add some vowels if needed in fact I needed to add one vowel the first time I used this method (although I used dice at that time, not calculator; but it is the same method) 06:15:21 -!- Sgeo has joined. 06:16:01 As you can see there are two character sheets in this file although the second one is incomplete (they do not even have a name yet) 06:17:09 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 06:17:38 The second one is my brother character he didn't decide the class yet 06:17:49 Or the name 06:18:00 Or ability scores 06:24:20 zzo38: I would probably remove the q and the second v 06:24:30 then I think it would be pronounceable 06:24:48 are you planning on actually pronouncing it? 06:25:05 can you just copy the name here so i can see it? 06:25:29 quintopia: "Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe" 06:25:43 s/second/first/ 06:26:11 i agree with coppro 06:26:25 Iucklwiv is somewhat pronounceable 06:26:54 i'd change Kjugobe to Djugobe, since Kj is tricky 06:27:03 nah 06:27:11 OK, I will think about these things. 06:27:29 you can fake Kj good enough as Ky 06:27:45 but that's inconsistent 06:27:55 inconsistent how? 06:27:59 since the initial I must also be pronounced as y 06:28:22 a) no it doesn't b) this is English. we don't care 06:28:23 in that case i'd spell it Kiugobe 06:28:34 or Jucklwiv 06:28:46 is it english? 06:28:55 looks like no english name i've ever seen 06:29:58 Actually it is just English letters, it isn't actually any language at all. 06:31:07 exactly 06:31:22 and in English, we can pull any random pronounciation we feel like 06:31:28 "si" looks like "zh" to me 06:31:32 so why not pretend it is a real fake language? 06:31:38 this is for roleplaying isnt it? 06:31:43 quintopia: No reason a character's name would necessarily be unilingual 06:31:58 i can think of one 06:32:25 Yes even in English the words is not necessarily pronouced like you have written. 06:32:46 And yes this is for roleplaying 06:33:27 quintopia: It may make sense within the context of a character's backstory for their name to be unilingual 06:33:30 but there is no inherent reason 06:33:59 Part of a situation DM has already told us, we escaped from a sinking ship containing many slaves and many creatures and so on, and cannot carry any equipment (or money) except for wearing rags 06:34:03 i dont know about this characters backstory 06:34:24 zzo38: tell me about your character 06:35:01 I didn't write a backstory (at least not yet) 06:35:07 ah 06:37:21 I do have a random "Character Lifepath" script 06:37:28 haha 06:37:55 In many cases some (or all) of the results of that script cannot be used, though 06:38:36 then it needs improvement 06:38:47 have it pick a trope from tvtropes :P 06:39:04 :D 06:39:23 No, that isn't the reason why some results cannot be used. There are just results that do not apply to some characters or campaigns. 06:40:50 Yes that is a possibility make a script pick a trope from tvtropes although how would that work? If they have a random page function, just use that. If not, make a list with parameters and stuff so that you can make combinations of things with specific values entered in some cases. 06:41:02 They have a number of indexes 06:41:09 you could select, for instance, two Character Tropes at random 06:41:16 you'd have to parse the index manually though 06:41:20 they have a story generator script that picks tropes for the characters 06:41:47 randomly 06:42:03 really? awesome 06:42:39 ah, yes 06:42:44 cool 06:42:52 (I do know some of the pages there specify possible parameters that can also apply) 06:46:13 OK I did run my script and here are the output (omitting the things that do not seem to apply to my character) (Note that it doesn't necessarily mean I will use this; it just means I am now copying its output!) 06:46:25 Place of birth: Fortress; Childhood environment: Strict; Caretaker's origin: Close family; Caretaker's background: Free laborers; Caretaker's status: Alive and well; You are an only child; 06:46:41 Luck: Fame; Luck: Travel; Tragedy: Imprisoned; Made an enemy: Creature with animal intelligence (Military, Foiled, Annoyed, Mutual); 06:47:11 did you write this? 06:48:01 I did write the script however most of the information contained in the script is from other sources. 06:48:19 it looks very useful 06:48:35 I also modified the things a bit, and did a few other things with it. 06:48:39 Here it is: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/furry/scripts/lifepath.txt 07:00:16 what language is that? 07:00:57 what is TIM? timidity? 07:01:26 TIM duplicates entry on stack the specified number of times, it is used to multiply the probability of an event. 07:02:05 ah 07:03:35 CHA has a chance to discard something from the stack, it is used to reduce the chance of an event. 07:03:59 ok 07:04:29 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 07:04:58 BR is line break, [ ] makes a subroutine, ( ) makes a list, {{ }} are comments, + before a command results in concatenation. 07:05:41 There are also other commands and prefixes and suffixes. 07:05:52 Although the other ones are not used in this script. 07:06:21 RRE means to repeat the next command a random number of times. 07:07:18 and you have your own program to parse this language? 07:07:45 looks an awful lot like a lzw descriptor language 07:07:54 What is lzw descriptor language? 07:07:55 but with random chance 07:08:08 like .zip 07:08:34 is there a wiki page for this language? 07:08:44 Yes I do have a program to parse this language, you can download the PHP code or run it remotely, including custom script form you can write your own. There is no documentation unfortunately. 07:09:22 You can download plain source code gopher://zzo38computer.cjb.net:70/0furry*FURRYSCRIPT or color source code http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/furry/Furryscript.php 07:10:25 Existing scripts are in the directory http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/furry/scripts/ you can write your own and I might include it in this collection. 07:11:20 you should document it 07:11:28 Form to run existing scripts is http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/furry/webform.php and form to write custom scripts is http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/furry/custom.php 07:11:28 on esolang wiki 07:12:10 Yes probably it should be documented. 07:14:57 But so far you just look at example files and the interpreter program code. 07:17:06 Do you understand well any of the examples? 07:26:43 give me an example of how the stack is used 07:26:45 -!- BeedaWeeda has joined. 07:30:04 -!- zzo38 has quit (Quit: Sleep). 07:34:05 http://i.imgur.com/moaG3.jpg This was apparrently drawn in MS Paint. 07:54:39 -!- BeedaWeeda has quit. 08:00:26 One wonders if it was painted on top of a photo, though. The place at least is real; compare http://www.panoramio.com/photo/7082547 08:01:05 Quite a lot of pixels to fiddle in any case. 08:06:23 fizzie: watch the youtube video about painting mona lisa in ms paint. there are some very talented pixel artists. 08:08:54 I don't think that's in dispute. 08:09:27 Just thought I recognized the place. 08:14:39 with a lot of time and careful application of the 1-pix brush, I can make any image 08:27:41 * pikhq_ sucks at sleeping. 08:32:28 -!- BeedaWeeda has joined. 08:58:01 -!- azaq23 has joined. 09:28:08 -!- BeedaWeeda has quit. 09:28:28 -!- kwertii has quit (Quit: kwertii). 09:41:47 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 09:42:54 -!- copumpkin has joined. 09:42:54 -!- copumpkin has quit (Changing host). 09:42:54 -!- copumpkin has joined. 09:48:29 -!- cheater__ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 09:54:37 -!- jcp- has joined. 09:56:17 -!- cheater__ has joined. 09:57:33 -!- clog_ has joined. 10:06:12 -!- javawizard has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 10:06:13 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 10:06:14 -!- clog has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 10:06:47 -!- Nisstyre has joined. 10:25:14 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 10:25:22 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Changing host). 10:25:23 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 11:08:52 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:10:53 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 11:11:20 -!- copumpkin has joined. 11:11:21 -!- copumpkin has quit (Changing host). 11:11:21 -!- copumpkin has joined. 11:15:37 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:38:37 -!- Lymee has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:40:12 -!- oerjan has joined. 11:40:20 -!- Lymee has joined. 11:40:41 oops 11:40:44 -!- oerjan has quit (Client Quit). 11:44:12 -!- oerjan has joined. 11:47:28 -!- derrik has joined. 11:49:29 -!- Lymee has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 11:50:19 Oops, you did it again? 11:51:50 something wanted to reboot my computer 11:53:01 i'd change Kjugobe to Djugobe, since Kj is tricky 11:53:05 NO IT IS NOT 11:54:44 Do you think it is kjuut instead of tricky? 11:54:57 er? 11:55:25 Kj er kjempelett 11:55:56 The Finnish pronunciation of "kjuut" would more-or-less approximate the English "cute". (I do know it doesn't work that way when you folks do it.) 11:56:06 indeed 11:59:53 Is it common for modern spoken languages to have no standardization body, or is this a rare feature? 11:59:57 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_palatal_fricative 12:00:02 -!- boily has joined. 12:00:25 oh look, I just asked a linguistic question when the topic was about linguistics. Completely coincidental. 12:00:25 i don't know 12:00:39 english doesn't, but french, german, and norwegian do, iirc 12:01:01 Spanish and Italian as well. 12:01:38 so it seems like a common feature for living European languages, at least. 12:02:14 the chinese certainly did some official changing at one point 12:02:17 -!- Lymee has joined. 12:02:19 Icelandic has a standardization body, if I recall correctly. 12:03:20 Finnish has "Kotus", the "Kotimaisten kielten tutkimuskeskus" -- "Research Institute for the Languages of Finland" is the official English name -- which sort of has a similar role, in that they publish a magazine and give recommendations; but they don't have any sort of legal or really-really-official standing or anything. 12:03:48 "The Research Institute for the Languages of Finland is devoted to the study and language planning of Finnish, Swedish, Saami, Finnish Sign Language and Romany. We also conduct research on languages related to Finnish. Most of our research is published in the form of dictionaries." 12:04:03 It's mostly a meaningless formality though. Having a standardizing body doesn't mean that the language that is spoken by most speakers is not fluid. 12:04:04 They also have a hotline service, in case you have an urgent query on matters of language. 12:04:15 haha, nice. 12:04:25 Oh, they do have a law too. 12:04:31 "The Research Institute is administered by the Finnish Ministry of Education and regulated by the Act on the Research Institute for the Languages of Finland (48/1976, 591/1996). A Board of Advisors supports its work." 12:04:34 Perhaps we should construct a tricky sentence and ask them to parse it for us. 12:04:58 norwegian also has competing "standards" made by institutions who don't like the two official forms 12:05:30 most notably riksmÃ¥l, a more conservative form of bokmÃ¥l. 12:06:55 The book held the record for the longest sentence in English literature with 13,955 words. That record was broken by Nigel Tomm's one-sentence, 469,375-word book, The Blah Story, Volume 4. 12:06:59 .... 12:07:41 The law has a total of two sentences of content in it, and it basically just says such a research institute exists. I suppose the law's there so that they can then divert some money into it. 12:09:13 * CakeProphet kind of wants to read The Blah Story 12:09:37 Except it apparently has a word count of over 13 million. 12:10:38 "The expert bodies in charge of [language planning] are statutory Language Boards, who issue decisions-in-principle and general guidelines on standard usage within each linguistic community." But it's not like they're controlling the language with an IRON FIST or anything. 12:11:07 I think they did publish some recommendations for Finnish translations of IT terminology way back in the 1980s/1990s, but absolutely no-one adopted those. 12:14:57 blah and blah blah to his blah character and then blah blah she was blah blah blah years old she blah blah boys about her so blah blah blah, her blah blah eyes blah blah along the blah blah blah his blah blah lips blah the pattern of a blah of blah on the blah as she blah blah blah and blah him with a blah 12:15:03 ...this sounds like such a good read. 12:15:18 "... and blah him with a blah." 12:15:49 It sounds vaguely like fungot after a s/fnord/blah/g 12:16:04 What, is that bot again gone? 12:16:06 speaking of fungot... 12:16:31 brave sir fungot ran away 12:16:38 -!- fungot has joined. 12:16:42 fnord 12:16:53 the best English word. 12:16:53 fungot: what is your fnord on this matter? 12:16:54 oerjan: that's irrational. " snow crash" is worth reading: fnord/ markus/ papers/ ai-lab-pubs/ fnord? 12:17:02 oerjan: Now I have that ditty looping in my head, thanks for that. 12:17:02 ^style 12:17:03 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube 12:17:28 ^style speeches 12:17:28 Selected style: speeches (misc. speeches from Project Gutenberg) 12:17:37 fungot: Hello 12:17:38 CakeProphet: the nebraska bill finds an early occasion to make a few words upon the general position. 12:17:41 fizzie: yw 12:18:00 fungot: But who gives a fuck about Nebraska? 12:18:02 CakeProphet: those who have read those writers. let the noble teachers but dissent, it is the fnord capital of polished society. omnes fnord fnord semper fnord, was with them a war or a revolution, and who have aggravated every fault they have found out a hundred ingenious devices by which they act, and i hope that you would be glad to know, that any of those questions which drive even wise men see any reason to apprehend, beca 12:18:20 Nebraska -- the fnord capital of polished society. 12:19:23 oerjan: do you know what Nebraska is? 12:19:24 -!- oerjan has set topic: omnes fnord fnord semper fnord | Esoteric programming languages | Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ and http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D. 12:19:37 CakeProphet: a us state 12:19:43 ...this blows my mind. 12:20:32 CakeProphet: otoh i cannot say anything _else_ about it 12:20:40 at least not on the spot 12:20:46 oerjan: But could you list all 50 just like that. 12:21:04 doubtful 12:21:08 well, I suspect he could recognize them though. 12:21:25 (And who stole the top half of my '?'? And is there a "pointless question mark" in Unicode?) 12:21:42 It could be used for pointless questions. 12:22:03 i could probably list _most_ of them, i guess 12:22:15 Wyoming 12:22:43 is an interesting word. 12:23:44 The name Wyoming derives from the Munsee name xwÃ©:wamÉ™nk, meaning "at the big river flat", but also named after the Wyoming Valley in Pennsylvania, made famous by the 1809 poem Gertrude of Wyoming by Thomas Campbell.[ 12:24:16 but then where did Wyoming Valley get its name... 12:24:39 oh, from that Munsee word. 12:25:00 alabama, california, hawaii, texas, georgia, new mexico, oregon, washington, alaska, north dakota, south dakota, idaho, minnesota, wyoming you said, illinois, kansas, new york, florida, arkansas, arizona, michigan, pennsylvania, new jersey, massachusets, missisippi, missouri, tennessee, 12:25:32 more than half. 12:26:11 west virginia, virginia, maryland, 12:26:22 ...I was about to type that exact same sequence.... 12:26:30 that is a bit weird. 12:26:35 heh :P 12:26:38 I was about to add Maryland first. 12:26:55 washington dc (not a state) 12:27:45 utah 12:27:48 maine, new hampshire, delaware, kentucky, nebraska, washington, idaho, oklahoma, 12:27:50 Related: http://www.ozyandmillie.org/comics/om20020109.gif 12:28:00 i _did_ say idaho :P 12:28:05 oh, my bad. :P 12:28:06 And Washington. 12:28:16 * CakeProphet can read. 12:28:29 I may actually needed to get glasses soon. 12:28:32 *need 12:28:50 I believe my vision is getting poor enough to interfere with my ability to read quickly. 12:29:19 2CFA;COPTIC OLD NUBIAN DIRECT QUESTION MARK;Po;0;ON;;;;;N;;;;; 12:29:19 2CFB;COPTIC OLD NUBIAN INDIRECT QUESTION MARK;Po;0;ON;;;;;N;;;;; 12:29:24 But no "pointless question". :/ 12:30:37 fungot: How do you feel about COPTIC OLD NUBIAN DIRECT QUESTION MARK 12:30:40 CakeProphet: _lincoln's first public speech. from an address to an indiana regiment. march 17, 1909, and delivered a long address so ardent and thrilling that the reporters dropped their pencils and, absorbed in watching him, forgot to take down what he said was, that he was branded with the mark of his despair, the seal of solomon upon it; there he had lain neglected for many centuries, limited the labour of the factory child. 12:31:06 no one mentioned connecticut yet :P 12:31:11 Thanks to Gutenberg's really sucky approach to metadata, not all of that stuff has had titles and such cleaned up yet. 12:31:39 "There he had lain neglected for many centuries, limited the labour of the factory child." 12:31:48 fizzie: But it's so much easier to say WAAAAH FUNGOT IS BUGGY. 12:31:50 :) 12:32:06 ^style 12:32:06 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches* ss wp youtube 12:32:19 %style youtube 12:32:24 ^style youtube 12:32:25 Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) 12:32:27 Some of those abbreviations are a bit obscure. 12:32:36 And the youtube style's built out of a very small dataset. 12:32:47 hmmm, I should make a language that uses every possible sigil in the Perl tradition. 12:32:58 fungot: How do they speak in YouTube comments? 12:32:59 fizzie: this was something like that, i liked the old avril...she used to be a president of the 3 dead. 12:33:05