< 1309306815 784722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1309308025 425242 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-150-136.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1309308033 236701 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-249-31.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1309308125 538948 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there are functions in the C library that have locale-specific behavior except when in the "C" locale < 1309308129 25619 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION baffles < 1309308196 601192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1309308710 300660 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: example? < 1309308737 6716 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: I'm just quoting the standard < 1309308748 930702 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that for backwards compat? < 1309308766 806808 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those functions that < 1309308766 969989 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :have locale-specific aspects only when not in the "C" locale are noted below. < 1309308779 282440 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you have locale-specific aspects only when not in the "C" locale < 1309308795 193198 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :by definition, something that is only present in the "C" locale is locale-specific < 1309309198 260269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1309309202 75490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is argument < 1309309238 977885 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an object that is passed to a function when invoking it < 1309309281 58988 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a value that < 1309309350 933592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:08:37: romance in iwc? truly the world is coming to an end < 1309309357 766898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i sure hope this is the cause of the next fireball < 1309309390 136710 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is looking disturbingly like dmm is wrapping up loose threads < 1309309407 134926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1309309418 804269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to find the dinosaur comics guest strip it reminded him of < 1309309495 37268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1773 < 1309309495 735467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one < 1309309546 338259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: erm, if he's trying to end on the calvin and hobbes point it would be a bit premature < 1309309551 853385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it'll take seven hundred pages to wrap up all the adventures < 1309309587 569919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw have you tried the cunning tactic if he's planning to end the comic? :D < 1309309592 847384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw have you tried the cunning tactic of asking if he's planning to end the comic? :D < 1309309609 293082 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seven hundred? i think you're off a bit < 1309309621 834290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:02:31: Okay, true. < 1309309622 14683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:02:47: That alone testifies that they shouldn't have freaking made LotR into a film series. < 1309309622 163386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:02:58: It's fundamentally incompatible. < 1309309622 163558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08:30: pikhq_, by which you mean it was significantly better than the books < 1309309622 721742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1309309633 917384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: er oh wait, that was the homestuck count when i compared them :) < 1309309637 69511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long was calvin and hobbes? < 1309309646 223226 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i have never dared to communicate with dmm < 1309309661 309423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it because he's ~famous~ < 1309309677 147759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:09:21: pikhq_, the films were pretty good. < 1309309677 296645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :agree, and i couldn't get past the first hundred pages of Fellowship < 1309309703 218624 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was no talking lion < 1309309705 997526 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :3160 < 1309309737 921315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah. then start worrying. < 1309309744 4741 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaa < 1309309747 494742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's still almost a hundred pages of wrap-up :D < 1309309750 796680 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x41414141 < 1309309754 710883 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Supers will return < 1309309767 590474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sure do know a lot about a comic I've never managed to archive binge < 1309309794 204489 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of archive binge, i need to catch up on smbc < 1309309826 648939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't know how he'll wrap up the hugely intertwined tangle of plot threads that is the Nigerian Finance Minister theme < 1309309841 18600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's what the remaining pages are < 1309309880 4722 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly wonders if he actually has read all of lotr, or is just imagining doing so < 1309309905 24532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: knowing your attention span i doubt it :D < 1309309913 214055 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not implausible that i gave up somewhere in fellowship too < 1309309938 971898 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: however i absorbed almost anything readable at that age < 1309309982 299780 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you read the part where caspian was on the dawn treader? < 1309309986 881277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh sweet, im gonna paste this big @ design document < 1309309995 980901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(...i should write one) < 1309309996 157411 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not implausible that i may actually have read it through < 1309310004 412580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1309310009 792114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1309310012 213905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: :D < 1309310014 136270 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: funny guy, although i _definitely_ have read all the narnia books < 1309310020 50739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read the narnia books when i was a lil one, they were shit < 1309310024 801790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i thought this because they are shit < 1309310051 434463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if i realised they were christian propaganda i would have realised WHY they were shit < 1309310054 738827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i just thought he was a bad writer < 1309310086 994259 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: heck i even read some of his _openly_ christian fiction < 1309310102 842509 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the great divorce) < 1309310108 563974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think he was a very clever writer < 1309310110 484033 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this in norwegian translation, btw < 1309310127 678608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1309310133 877722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1309310136 838921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does clos etab work < 1309310140 884395 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're such a eustice < 1309310156 260885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :totes < 1309310181 880327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Aslan represented the immaterial Deity in the same way in which Giant Despair [a character in The Pilgrim's Progress] represents despair, he would be an allegorical figure. In reality however he is an invention giving an imaginary answer to the question, 'What might Christ become like, if there really were a world like Narnia and He chose to be incarnate and die and rise again in that world as He actually has done in ours?' This is not allegor < 1309310182 50214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :y at all. (Martindale & Root 1990) < 1309310186 278032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cs lewis doesnt know what allegory means < 1309310194 168504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he thinks jesus is lit. a lion i guess < 1309310222 627445 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was just writing books for kids < 1309310230 967499 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think aslan turned into jesus at the end of the last battle < 1309310231 496434 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(while trying to keep em brainwashed appropriately) < 1309310252 850805 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said he's known by other names in other worlds < 1309310290 809770 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like many movies and books, cs lewis's naria books made ugly pepole bad and bad people ugly and looked down on different people < 1309310293 208284 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1309310297 618319 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty lame for a "christian" book < 1309310375 766926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: to be fair, it also lacked a lot of stoning < 1309310392 819516 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure tumnus was constantly stoned < 1309310397 52631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "this isn't _true_ Christianity because it's not nice enough" kind of falls down if you take all the parts together < 1309310453 267638 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-150-136.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1309310478 784632 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION snickers at "But it's so hard for me to meet new people!" < 1309310482 590270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre making a sequel to narnia arent they < 1309310493 188428 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that Lewis is *capable* of writing good fiction. < 1309310493 361444 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :movie wise? < 1309310505 989232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: yeah < 1309310506 162523 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even within the framework of his "ZOMG MUST BE 120% CHRISTIAN" thing. < 1309310510 127020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1309310514 801301 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He just seems to have let that framework take over. < 1309310534 612166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't tolkein reconvert him by basically saying "hey christianity is p. cool dude" < 1309310541 912992 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right. < 1309310556 99734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lewis was like "oh ok im christian now" < 1309310569 210909 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was lewis his precious? < 1309310572 838009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Films directed by Andrew Adamson < 1309310573 7223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shrek (2001) · Shrek 2 (2004) · The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005) · The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian (2008) < 1309310576 109682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good film career < 1309310580 83597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1309310586 987249 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He claims that it was some long, arduous journey, but, well... < 1309310633 922238 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be perfectly honest, most Westerners who claim to have "struggled" with their faith are either saying "I keep thinking it's bullshit, but get pulled back in", or are bullshitting you. < 1309310645 15547 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2273 < 1309310661 279387 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on whether they mean "struggle" as in "questioned" or "suffered personal injury because of". < 1309310675 435774 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: or ".. but boy do I love sleeping with my wife's friends..." < 1309310710 358363 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Or variations thereof. < 1309310721 909114 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Boy do I love cock" seems to be common as well. < 1309310735 534840 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1309310740 703125 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "but the alcohol made me do it" < 1309310763 506766 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which works better as an excuse with some denominations than others. < 1309310774 267305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sure is some productive debate < 1309310784 76743 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the important thing is if you check yourself into rehab and tell everyone that god forgives you < 1309310786 147304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets tell /r/circlejerk about it < 1309310801 412527 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you've got churches that claim the religion mandates you never drink, and churches that literally make beer and wine. < 1309310863 303942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god shut up < 1309311142 918115 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: it would have been more fitting to the topic to link to the one where he uses bible stuff to justify sodomy and pedophilia... < 1309311227 845696 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-206-241.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT : < 1309311320 802903 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do unto others as you woul dhave them do to you? < 1309311344 692741 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2281#comic < 1309311372 505441 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the votey comic is the more interesting one < 1309311564 246627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i think my previous thoughts about the halting problem were wrong, cool < 1309311606 346000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1309311612 240340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey quint < 1309311619 413147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you gonna write that score system for jous < 1309311619 752046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1309311641 261012 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's provably uncomputable. proof: find a point in time after which sgeo will never blog into this channel... < 1309311667 28951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, the score system? :D < 1309311692 43595 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the score system will happen when i learn that stupid fortran-based algebra system < 1309311706 70294 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the WORST NAMED FUNCTIONS MANKIND HAS EVER INVENTED < 1309311715 15856 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :with THE MOST CONFUSING PARAMETER LISTS < 1309311738 358506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the haskell binding has a nice interface < 1309311739 391821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hu < 1309311740 111335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1309311745 184839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lapack functinos are named systematically < 1309311753 76050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't have to look them up if you know the base operation names :) < 1309311756 45064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :overloading < 1309311761 279570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In 2010, 25 LaRouche supporters protesting a new production of Richard Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen presented by the Los Angeles Opera carried signs that said, ""Wagner: Loved by Nazis, Rejected by Humans" and "L.A. County: $14 Million to promote Nazi Wagner, Layoffs for Music Teachers"." < 1309311794 599814 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1309311811 539711 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :explain the naming system to me then < 1309311839 839697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jfreadthedocumentation, anyway i was only asking so that i can take advantage of you not doing it by writing my own < 1309311877 491846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subroutines in LAPACK have a characteristic naming convention which makes the identifiers short but rather obscure. This was necessary as the first Fortran standards only supported identifiers up to six characters long, so the names had to be shortened to fit into this limit. < 1309311877 677261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A LAPACK subroutine name is in the form pmmaaa, where: < 1309311877 677448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p is a one-letter code denoting the type of numerical constants used. S, D stand for real floating point arithmetic respectively in single and double precision, while C and Z stand for complex arithmetic with respectively single and double precision. The newer version LAPACK95 use generic subroutines in order to overcome the need to explicitly specify the data type. < 1309311878 977157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm is a two-letter code denoting the kind of matrix expected by the algorithm. The codes for the different kind of matrices are reported below; the actual data are stored in a different format depending on the specific kind; e.g., when the code DI is given, the subroutine expects a vector of length n containing the elements on the diagonal, while when the code GE is given, the subroutine expects an n×n array containing the entries of the matrix. < 1309311885 875654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa is a one- to three-letter code describing the actual algorithm implemented in the subroutine, e.g. SV denotes a subroutine to solve linear system, while R denotes a rank-1 update. < 1309311886 395073 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've already done all the parts that don't involving compiling in lapack. i've even downloaded the libraries. i could probably finish it tomorrow with some focus. < 1309311888 854847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, the subroutine to solve a linear system with a general (non-structured) matrix using real double-precision arithmetic is called DGESV. < 1309311891 826400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia < 1309311928 332538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it plug in to the existing report.c < 1309311935 111657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah but i was going to do it in haskell which means i could be finished in the same time :P < 1309311940 369362 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i had to modify report.c also < 1309311943 328495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "downloaded the libraries"? what, an apt-get line? < 1309311951 916471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: um it should not require adding new files < 1309311958 16102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are baking it into chainlance that is wrong < 1309311976 232387 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i had to modify both < 1309311985 20423 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the scoring code is going in report.c < 1309311999 299499 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you want to do it and won't fuck it up, have at it. < 1309312017 298572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might fuck it up :) < 1309312024 200330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: chainlance should require _no_ modifications < 1309312026 856992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reports only the raw score < 1309312044 95935 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1309312052 501241 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it required modification, because i needed more than the raw score < 1309312077 480482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um what else do you need < 1309312088 696152 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of wins of each program < 1309312119 603007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you work that out from the reported raw score < 1309312177 824430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i have some bf joust stuff i am already working on, so i will probably do the scoring system sometime too < 1309312208 872228 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1309312214 792269 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the raw score is Ascore-Bscore < 1309312230 108395 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 9-8 looks the same as 10-9 looks the same as 11-10 < 1309312249 582119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1309312251 693335 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a trivial modification tho < 1309312257 520653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the phrasing in terms of betting, btw < 1309312290 281101 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want the modified lance and build your own report on top of it, i can send you that now < 1309312370 690744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's ok, one of my other projects is lance < 1309312374 498091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also, plz [asterisk]chainlance < 1309312382 344087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bad enough fizzie plagiarising my name without you abbreviating it to my name :) < 1309312398 513313 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i couldn't remember which lance it was i modified. *lance then < 1309312535 933789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:53:59: variable: emacs v. vi is *very* well-trodden < 1309312536 105167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:54:03: variable: vile vs. nedit would be fun < 1309312540 787333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :still want this flamewar, btw < 1309312582 498122 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an idea < 1309312596 563249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: which idea < 1309312601 254341 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a language where the same word is used to mean both a word and the opposite word < 1309312610 126015 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shall be called SARCLANG < 1309312626 536641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats called english < 1309312654 325834 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :english gives you the option to be explicitly not sarcastic < 1309312662 524078 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in SARCLANG, you are always left guessing < 1309312707 912418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:17:42: i've got a great settlement in a hanging cliff, on a remote island < 1309312711 359061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it does? < 1309312784 528087 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. in english if you preface a statement with figuratively, like THAT WILL FIGURATIVELY CATCH ON FIRE IF YOU DO THAT! then everyone knows you are being serious and not sarcastic. < 1309312813 132995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do? < 1309312817 181891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:25:52: The foundations of mathematics has a strange dogma that ... distilling the smallest possible set of elegant core axioms is both possible and profitable. From there, offering this set of axioms leaves the dirty business of making workable theories to blue-collar workaday mathematicians. < 1309312819 964499 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do now] < 1309312826 9725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this < 1309312908 669260 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've started reading "Everything Is Obvious *Once You Know The Answer" and it is pretty awesome so far. < 1309313439 831844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:25:52: The foundations of mathematics has a strange dogma that ... distilling the smallest possible set of elegant core axioms is both possible and profitable. From there, offering this set of axioms leaves the dirty business of making workable theories to blue-collar workaday mathematicians. < 1309313556 407839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: laugh < 1309313617 539363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHA < 1309313624 984517 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll be six dollars < 1309313687 162741 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this confused me at first because I interpreted "laugh" as an action of elliott's rather than a command < 1309313757 363189 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably stop talking in such a way that "laugh" would indeed be an action like that; I might get confused less < 1309313768 503601 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I will never do this) < 1309313830 302418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1309313833 256679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you laugh < 1309313847 88831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: because you have to laugh at its absurdity, so i can make you cry < 1309313873 577578 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't want to cry < 1309313888 769422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but did you laugh < 1309313899 370254 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a blue-collar workaday mathematician anyway < 1309313920 502519 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am horribly out of jive with math culture < 1309313933 166733 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should get back in jive < 1309313948 793961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ok here's what i modified that from < 1309313956 48486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:25:20: "Programming language design has a strange dogma that ... distilling the smallest possible set of elegant core axioms is both possible and profitable. From there, offering this set of axioms leaves the dirty business of making workable software to blue-collar workaday programmers." < 1309313960 569497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: time to cry < 1309313965 272639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this was from a serious blog post) < 1309313972 119303 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm crying < 1309314032 723468 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would anyone write that. why would anyone think that. < 1309314055 624716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: perl user < 1309314110 776644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have the new dark google top bar thing < 1309314112 863697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont like it :( < 1309314113 676292 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming languages suck because they're too elegant. perl forever. < 1309314131 905917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/2011/01/minimalism.html enjoy < 1309314158 372265 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why intercal is BEST LANGUAGE < 1309314164 94376 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1309314202 25926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow what the google design just changed < 1309314207 578821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not when i search with the address bar < 1309314224 215058 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it eschews elegance, focusing instead on making things easy for the programmer. for instance, converting numbers to roman numerals or words takes effort on the programmer's part. they shouldn't have to do that. < 1309314314 513847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/SsaMu.png < 1309314318 333498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to be googles < 1309314322 5048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my googls < 1309314325 124537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha;l < 1309314325 645813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1309314344 96086 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-82.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1309314360 204237 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :penguinofthegods? wtf? < 1309314367 806514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats my email < 1309314377 923005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im a penguin deal with it < 1309314389 171032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there are any penguin furries (yes) < 1309314404 902205 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wdyl.com/#esoteric+programming+languages the one true google < 1309314422 874879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck is that < 1309314427 3010 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one true search engine < 1309314432 884338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its not a search engine < 1309314437 31143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"See pictures of sex" --wdyl.com < 1309314447 31722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Alert me about sex" im such a child < 1309314449 790271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Find patents about sex" < 1309314452 549513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Explore sex in 3D" < 1309314456 552176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Measure popularity of sex on the web < 1309314456 754374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1309314461 60639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Organize a debate about sex" < 1309314463 626861 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Start a fucking blog" < 1309314465 891959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Find sex nearby" < 1309314468 447209 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"king dedede rule 34 exists...don't ask me how i know" < 1309314472 615964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Call someone about sex" < 1309314476 926546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Plan your sex events" < 1309314480 593314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Search sex, on the move" < 1309314483 11832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Scour the earth for sex" < 1309314483 861324 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Plan your fucking events" < 1309314486 51694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Access sex stuff on the web, faster" < 1309314538 908008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find wizards... nearby < 1309314541 586731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a photo album about wizards... < 1309314547 157929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Measure popularity of wizards... on the web < 1309314596 297799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have fifty-eight backlogged updates < 1309314614 389574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION applies < 1309314630 270693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: was that quote just totally ooc btw < 1309314674 991855 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: from a forum thread where someone was asking whether penguin furries exist < 1309314686 338489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1309314692 280761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do furries exist < 1309314692 453832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do furries exist ... i can't help but feel that furries are merely a sign of things to come in the next hundred years of history ... < 1309314703 671492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for fucks sake why is something like this necessary furry fandom? more like cult of furrism, some wacked out 21st century meta religion with its own fucking intricate series of SUBSECTS < 1309314703 843466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just search for penguin furries on google. you'll find it. < 1309314708 225926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this article i s stupid < 1309314727 312289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1309314729 557148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere between final fantasy, dragon ball z, and quake three, the internet stopped being a place where everyone regarded each other as elites and instead resulting in a bunch of poorly misguided rules about "proper posting etiquette" < 1309314729 901540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to this very day i have yet to figure out what this phrase is supposed to mean beyond "be a faggot") < 1309314730 50303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1309314756 794357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hell.oddwebsite.com/ well this is the worst webpage i hae ever visited < 1309314857 686563 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what is this < 1309314908 665895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch of people who have evidently mistaken pretending to be stupid with being stupid < 1309314912 924083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also seen on irc < 1309314952 121921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: lol at the first post in that penguinfurries thread < 1309314953 352745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was just thinking about what they would feel like just now." < 1309315088 483891 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice thread < 1309315104 56287 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kdlfwkghudpvnlnp QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1309315121 671502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate the internet < 1309315122 895712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and love it < 1309315129 191725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not sure which is stronger < 1309315156 870778 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a love-hate relationship < 1309315158 595708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god its upgrading the kernel < 1309315162 121377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: why do iever upgrade my software < 1309315193 857527 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I upgrade my software and it looks ugly or breaks < 1309315218 181323 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uglier, that is < 1309315233 693551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill just leave it the same version forever < 1309315235 961725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :until it breaks < 1309315241 284928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then install the new version and cry for a week < 1309315243 320986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then never upgrade it < 1309315243 837960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat < 1309315401 630137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meet the Shen Project - the type-safe heir of Lisp (Qi) that has ambitious aims - from embedded to the Web - "a universal Assembly" (lambdassociates.org) < 1309315405 962522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god dammit not the qi guy again < 1309315420 356568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :herp derp let me totally misuse "bipolar" to try and explain programmers being in bored in university < 1309315423 149743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im a fucking genius look at me < 1309315436 227693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck fuck shitty shit fuck fuck < 1309315441 561266 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heir of lisp? < 1309315454 975835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah obviously qi is lisp < 1309315458 630591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the reddit headliner though < 1309315476 971690 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it any good < 1309315490 361133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qi itself? sure. < 1309315495 244912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the author is an idiot. < 1309315519 507312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For that reason I subtitled my talk Back to the Future (after Zemecki's classic time travel film)" < 1309315521 254015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zemecki's < 1309315534 549623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hes like fucking kubrick < 1309315584 75472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is not an OSI license, but a free$ license designed to hold the project together around a standard that is well documented and has 20 years R&D behind it." < 1309315593 393977 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Qi is an award-winning functional programming language based on 20 years R&D that offers the advantages of pattern matching, l calculus consistency, optional lazy evaluation and static type checking. < 1309315599 821465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory: licensing is the easiest place to find if a software developer is a fucking egoist < 1309315615 88498 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I concur. < 1309315615 612092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he's selling it while talking about his ONE-MAN stunning achievement, he's a massive egoist < 1309315619 92245 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 years r&d 20 years r&d < 1309315626 271796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he's avoiding using an open source license to protect his hard work, he's an egoist < 1309315636 134184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry [asterisk]eir < 1309315643 372513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he's GPLing it and explicitly states this is to stop eir work being abused by corporations < 1309315646 910730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e's an egoist, and delusional < 1309315649 580584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[asterisk]e's < 1309315655 91670 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at least not also a complete ass. < 1309315690 114720 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want to protect this from corporations, so I'm going to make it worse for everyone", however, is. < 1309315695 227396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i worry that my complete lack of care with what someone does with my code would break down the moment someone "exploits" it and i'm just doing it to seem humble to myself < 1309315721 237771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shen has a great contribution to make in safety critical areas such as < 1309315721 386550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :space exploration, < 1309315721 386725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuclear plant maintenance < 1309315721 386836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :medicine < 1309315721 386946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :high integrity operating systems < 1309315765 757346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if NASA uses formal-logic based software verification techniques? < 1309315781 796560 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :naaaaaaaaaaah < 1309315795 654850 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@h-67-101-72-35.nycmny83.static.covad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1309315799 506031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have this horrible feeling that they instead rely on manuals of restrictive coding styles ... but can that really be true? NASA's code _works_ almost all the time, on the first actual run < 1309315801 918183 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@h-67-101-72-35.nycmny83.static.covad.net QUIT :Changing host < 1309315802 66879 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1309315811 302658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And style guides are _not_ a sufficient methodology to do this < 1309315817 593021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[asterisk]achieve < 1309315823 445322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Well, it's not like that's totally uncommon < 1309315828 664547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Intel use a formally verified FPU unit < 1309315863 211974 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because they don't want to repeat fdiv. < 1309315869 740706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it started after that IIRC < 1309315874 881599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good decision < 1309315884 63257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really want to know how Intel processors are _designed_ < 1309315886 546999 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most certainly. < 1309315888 817134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously it's not all raw chip design programs < 1309315898 889558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that would be INSANELY huge < 1309315903 940768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The high-level layout of components is obviously that, though) < 1309315912 91785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like -- how do they specify the instruction->microcode transformations? < 1309315919 517225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do they "compile" this into the translator unit? < 1309315925 876910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do they write the microcode interpreter? < 1309315933 284976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do they "compile" this into chip design? < 1309315936 637084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really want to know. < 1309315940 928869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be very fascinating. < 1309315976 509999 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Google's recent layout change is because of a new service. < 1309315978 637497 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Google+". < 1309315986 19661 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google+ what < 1309315989 870891 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're wanting to get into social networking stuff. < 1309315991 998658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thats just their social networking thing < 1309315994 991113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would that make them change the deign < 1309315995 698141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :design < 1309315997 227691 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cxpuipprqjgogljg JOIN :#esoteric < 1309315998 163306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i like the new design < 1309316003 105400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just didn't like the top bar with the old page < 1309316007 719994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i still get when searching w/ url bar for some reason < 1309316010 740701 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: So it all integrates. < 1309316023 628644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh what its gone back < 1309316029 294117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey < 1309316031 936657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :google.com has it < 1309316040 239192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a nice redesign though? < 1309316041 987588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has more whitespace < 1309316050 192323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i don't like the url being above the summary < 1309316057 569963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sort of separated results before < 1309316071 716949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh nice, they've unified all the serach < 1309316073 129949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like patents < 1309316081 524021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.allgraphics123.com/ag/01/13042/13042.jpg < 1309316114 730700 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone made this < 1309316147 982635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a "HUG" < 1309316150 79074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HUG" "Me" < 1309316168 78979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i have chrome twelve now < 1309316222 736828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://zwani.com/ oh good site < 1309316230 119124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for making "HUG" "Me" zwani < 1309316242 31659 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow all of this < 1309316246 167424 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wonder if NASA uses formal-logic based software verification techniques? <-- istr from somewhere (maybe ltu?) that they're based on _exceedingly_ thorough code review < 1309316271 756359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i guess it's just using humanpower but... < 1309316278 494148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its hard to believe that it actually works as well as it does < 1309316312 216387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also, while we're talking about Ambient Oriented Programming, what about Metaphor-Oriented Programming? See the brilliant Homespring language by Jeff Binder and Joe Neeman: http://xeny.net/H_Ot_M_Ef_S_P_R_Ib_N_G" < 1309316313 616863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ltu: good < 1309316325 193091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I thought that this comment was generated by an intelligent SPAM generator. Maybe its passing the Turing test now?" < 1309316325 716142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1309316339 325564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was calling the post that parented your reply SPAM, according to my first-read filter. Actually, reading it again, I think you are correct, its not SPAM, just that the thoughts are enthusiastic but not very well organized yet. The parent poster could work on organizing and polishing their thoughts, it would be easier for us to understand what is going on and provide appropriate feedback." < 1309316341 510155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: lol wow < 1309316344 205799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are taking homespring seriously < 1309316348 272518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im very happy < 1309316353 116088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke < 1309316353 295394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homespring is a joke language. I think it's rather funny. < 1309316353 444029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By tumble at Fri, 2011-03-11 05:20 | login or register to post comments < 1309316353 444215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't get it. I apologize < 1309316354 524955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't get it. I apologize for jumping to conclusions. < 1309316356 821114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By Sean McDirmid at Fri, 2011-03-11 09:05 | login or register to post comments < 1309316363 874385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im clapping < 1309316392 151432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/PoGo < 1309316394 644863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1309316399 61949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you still making languages < 1309316401 205625 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1309316408 972673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ and ] become a complicated and probably very arbitary mess of po's and go's and some other things < 1309316411 262314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not a fucking isomorphism < 1309316414 550215 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that by tehz oh madk < 1309316442 613833 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1309316445 382547 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make the coder laugh < 1309316445 856386 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow an go < 1309316447 914165 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get it < 1309316465 999473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wang. oh < 1309316480 542365 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1309316494 388026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1309316497 562454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was just a silly joke < 1309316499 330678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if its actually that < 1309316500 614819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then ill cry < 1309316509 540535 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im already crying < 1309316511 708218 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how all of his langauges are brainfuck but different???? < 1309316525 8225 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like how he doesn't understand isomorphism??????? < 1309316546 138916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In fact, I believe that it is precisely because Qi was largely delivered outside the university system that it exists at all." < 1309316551 233807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you criticising universities in your proposal < 1309316554 741740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not good.................................................... < 1309316565 838356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he < 1309316567 249342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wants donations < 1309316567 787895 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : thats not a fucking isomorphism <-- IS TOO < 1309316568 314142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no....... < 1309316575 556309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :standing donation to Lambda Associates Up to £10.00 GBP per month < 1309316577 135412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1309316577 488291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1309316579 85608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a standing donation < 1309316585 983574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enter the maximum amount you want to pay each month < 1309316586 162988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :£ GBP < 1309316586 314525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will pay at least £1.00GBP < 1309316586 516609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1309316587 231391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wont < 1309316597 601308 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 < 1309316597 943362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who pledge a standing amount are automatically entitled to a monthly newsletter which previews the forthcoming work we are doing. You will have your name placed on our list of donors unless you indicate you would prefer to remain anonymous (write here if you wish this). If you are interested in making a substantial contribution with a view to advertising on Lambda Associates then write to us and we will take it from there. < 1309316600 444173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god monqy do you have money < 1309316605 326330 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually it's not, but only because you stupid esolangers insist on forgetting that isomorphisms are invertible... < 1309316606 891617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its only like one letter away from monqy < 1309316617 170252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: got a nicer term? :P < 1309316621 74975 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only have american money < 1309316629 560727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: its ok paypal converts < 1309316631 654795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you gotta do this < 1309316653 299003 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: embedding, maybe < 1309316671 58530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sonantlive.bitsnbites.eu/tool/ oh fun times < 1309316675 342252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's not very evocative < 1309316678 751569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/not very/not very/ < 1309316749 910434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://www.allgraphics123.com/ < 1309316779 250137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh james hague did banksimple??? < 1309316781 150415 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't want to load but I trust it's quality < 1309316783 422398 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok loaded < 1309316807 422404 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good categories, good graphics123 < 1309316814 606642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont see hague on on banksimples page < 1309316816 236735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe is lies < 1309316845 946050 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm the tcs term would be "reduction", me thinks < 1309316848 289146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Crap, you're more than right, my bad. It was only linked by al3x, CTO of BankSimple." < 1309316848 841445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1309316857 262477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that would work < 1309316879 963936 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like reduction to SAT < 1309316880 369455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hey do you read Arcane Sentiment, if so, are you actually literally me < 1309316897 774490 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I used to know what that was < 1309316902 373320 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like for an hour < 1309316907 485475 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try again < 1309316912 119720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arcanesentiment.blogspot.com/ < 1309316932 498905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is full of correct opinions and good words < 1309316934 548038 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right I read a few of the posts once < 1309316944 133656 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember it being pretty correct and good < 1309316955 536217 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look too updated since then though < 1309316965 826784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it has not updated in a few months? :( < 1309316968 689805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the archives are all good though < 1309316984 16473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what about Programming in the 21st Century < 1309316989 568064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also good blog < 1309316991 248116 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never even heard of that one < 1309316999 467818 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will look < 1309317006 943265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://prog21.dadgum.com/ < 1309317041 460784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's got a lot of comparison to retro days + functional programming things + a lot of performance-focused mindset putdown < 1309317667 318599 :jcp|1!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309317733 804537 :jcp|other!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1309317742 738650 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1309317830 506900 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309317941 301655 :jcp|1!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1309317995 279025 :jcp|other!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309318089 525908 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1309318108 584302 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309318585 844016 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pogo not a joke language? have you read the spec and examples? < 1309318600 447143 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't either but I just saw a few of them and they sound like a really bad joke < 1309318606 118609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's certainly a joke but we have a specific definition of joke language :) < 1309318623 425469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TURKEY BOMB is a joke language, a language that is just terrible is not < 1309318633 788015 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm TURKEY BOMB < 1309318644 949322 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should look up the definition sometime < 1309318647 145510 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably forgot it < 1309318648 701845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ook is also arguably a joke language, but this actually adds something < 1309318651 425666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though what it adds is rubbish < 1309318660 53511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://catseye.tc/gallery/languages/turkeyb/ < 1309318664 499547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing, and maybe even implementable and TC :P < 1309318676 610414 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I remember reading it once or twice < 1309318677 699270 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff < 1309318697 524913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote it's all coming together < 1309318701 472854 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1309318702 914172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote it's all coming < 1309318704 170710 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1309318705 444429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote it's all becoming < 1309318706 693044 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1309318709 32112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote AMICED < 1309318710 346863 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :106) and an AMICED literal would presumably /add/ info to the source whatever info gets added, that's the value that the AMICED doesn't contain it's all falling into place < 1309318711 910100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: caret < 1309318785 68873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(scarf is ais) < 1309318812 344347 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking more carefully, pogo looks like half boring and half bad joke < 1309318823 52225 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like really bad joke < 1309318831 301059 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he - push the masculinity of the current memory cell onto the memory stack (Chuck Norris may cause stack overflow) < 1309318865 416445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1309318868 847032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck that noise < 1309318871 545943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fuck chuck norris < 1309318903 937298 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second-to-last block of commands in the spec reminds me of HQ9+ < 1309318966 413961 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even has the H and 9, and a command to make Q trivial < 1309318970 845230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i have started to apply the "reduction" terminology < 1309318982 811520 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1309318997 601892 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make an "isomorphism" with hq9+ < 1309319005 154423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wow what? < 1309319009 703479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that i am being good? :D < 1309319011 21486 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh a reduction < 1309319038 102358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/w/index.php?title=Brainfuck&curid=961&diff=23474&oldid=23331 < 1309319042 286900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: reading now out of date < 1309319044 267929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i make a new one < 1309319110 262200 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading of pogo spec and exampels try not to cry < 1309319117 480417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: impossible < 1309319129 378783 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make the coder laugh < 1309319129 620312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :id need to be a cybord withougt emotions and then i might spontaenously devleop them to cry < 1309319135 146663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i laugh after reading it < 1309319136 383302 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow an go < 1309319136 716932 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, < 1309319137 51758 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :po op < 1309319137 671984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a really hollow laugh < 1309319142 355386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :signifying like < 1309319144 243508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my internal death < 1309319159 712946 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to look up what poop does < 1309319165 568575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :poops < 1309319172 727896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :po - add current position in code to the top of the po stack < 1309319172 909211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :op - pop from the memory stack and place the value in the current memory cell < 1309319190 181821 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when you pop from an empty stack < 1309319196 518041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :poop < 1309319197 399856 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this spec sucks < 1309319219 90100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/w/index.php?title=User:TehZ&curid=3382&diff=23473&oldid=23441 < 1309319220 345206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whitewashing < 1309319267 337951 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good talk page < 1309319279 982058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/w/index.php?title=Deadfish&curid=2038&diff=23467&oldid=23457 < 1309319283 753703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe i should move it to L < 1309319294 933367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what, [[User talk:TehZ]]? < 1309319299 92136 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1309319421 132400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maharba is a good person, some of their languages aren't very interesting but they have good opinions < 1309319425 988015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :opinions hour with elliott < 1309319542 386056 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wat < 1309319556 391117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what < 1309319576 63712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they make fun of the right things and know good things to know that a lot of bad people on the wiki don't < 1309319580 150182 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean The language defined by the Revised Revised Revised Revised Revised Report on the Algorithmic Language Scheme? < 1309319585 924969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1309319586 823502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1309319619 149421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how you expand Revised^-1 Report on the Kernel Programming Language < 1309319641 314662 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait, that exists? < 1309319657 612518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftp://ftp.cs.wpi.edu/pub/techreports/pdf/05-07.pdf < 1309319659 108108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1309319668 823499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice things with interesting opinions < 1309319671 361028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh let me link to the site/ltu < 1309319673 911877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more digestible < 1309319678 985816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~jshutt/kernel.html < 1309319707 2871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4093 < 1309319707 361200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/1680 < 1309319731 912850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :($define! $if < 1309319732 90648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :($vau (x y z) env < 1309319732 242831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :($cond ((eval x env) (eval y env)) < 1309319732 242913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#t (eval z env))))) < 1309319733 769694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a good example < 1309319740 406352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :($define! $lambda < 1309319740 558528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :($vau (ptree . body) static-env < 1309319740 558688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wrap (eval (list* $vau ptree #ignore body) < 1309319740 558804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :static-env)))) < 1309319745 261598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realises the chances of oerjan reading any of these is 0 < 1309319749 474862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe the webpage :D < 1309319780 636754 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...maybe you know me too well. < 1309319805 897264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~jshutt/kernel.html < 1309319808 913338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see that's an easy short webpage < 1309319810 2254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1309319815 471776 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :already opened < 1309319837 50611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that implementation of lambda is great though < 1309320225 973527 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm < 1309320322 143729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: define mmm < 1309320323 619351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it joisdf < 1309320327 212922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i missed an m sorry < 1309320334 745364 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's joisdf < 1309320355 179619 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this kernel language thing is pretty nifty < 1309320365 912441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joisdf is the best < 1309320379 80379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah it is, i disagree with some of the principles listed in the report, but it's a good coherent philosophy < 1309320379 627589 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1309320692 877556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://libposix.sourceforge.net/ oh lol this again < 1309320712 83821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/libposix/index.php?title=Compare < 1309320727 244042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, wants me to log in to view their full news < 1309320847 723664 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will you help developing infrastructure that will power next decade Unix ? < 1309320908 458646 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bold claim for a bold attempt to unify the implementation of the core functionality of all Unix systems < 1309321025 99245 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did they get hello world 2 years ago and give up < 1309321043 939526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wonder-tonic.com/cageyourqueue/ < 1309321046 272284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good site < 1309321066 484435 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repo says yes. < 1309321072 607578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wonder-tonic.com/cageyourqueue/ < 1309321073 486024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good site < 1309321078 490581 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still a good site < 1309321079 245572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody say anything not related to it < 1309321149 108648 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My *goodness* libposix is sad. < 1309321157 95323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats their source like < 1309321171 605739 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's actually reasonable source code. < 1309321175 970638 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just implements so very little. < 1309321177 238713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the number of Nic Cage films on Netflix is declining" < 1309321178 316958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im crying < 1309321182 437254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maye i will have to buy it all < 1309321204 139206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :over sixty films wow < 1309321210 153947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Cage#Filmography < 1309321210 861066 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say it has every *trivial* libc function. < 1309321215 900231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs to happen < 1309321246 626450 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its malloc returns NULL. < 1309321265 914356 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job libposix < 1309321266 110809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brubaker first nicholas cage movie < 1309321278 55067 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just so very, very sad after having been doing stuff with musl. < 1309321316 49693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: itll be a very fast malloc < 1309321323 959834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a manual pool allocator fallback things will still work < 1309321327 14476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what professional programmer wouldn't < 1309321349 928037 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, has the same O() as musl malloc, but musl malloc is more useful. < 1309321372 652846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god http://muppetswithpeopleeyes.tumblr.com/ < 1309321376 483888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the person who brought you cage your queue < 1309321400 146318 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah, musl. The libc I understand. < 1309321407 810300 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :muppets with people eyes is brilliant < 1309321413 958436 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad it's dead :'( < 1309321415 855824 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even its freaking ld.so is reasonable. < 1309321419 827111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wonder-tonic.com/books2barcodes/read.php?title=artofwar how fucking long is art of war < 1309321438 128765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: maybe they did it to all the muppets < 1309321534 200672 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://git.etalabs.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=musl;a=blob;f=src/ldso/dynlink.c;h=031e1f0f22f51ecabf8cb39638f7565e6e25c947;hb=HEAD < 1309321545 544050 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :muppets with people eyes also makes me think birds with arms, another brilliant innovation < 1309321559 656560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: why are you linking me to musl code < 1309321566 994422 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not sad < 1309321581 981794 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Because it doesn't make me want to stab people. < 1309321586 528396 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It really doesn't. < 1309321604 243109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://i.imgur.com/GsLB1.jpg actual ad < 1309321605 441813 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-172-221.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the highest praise I have to offer a C library. < 1309321613 694873 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ad < 1309321635 362197 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ads like that make me wonder what's behind them < 1309321651 578925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :money < 1309321654 474541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, monqy < 1309321655 249115 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipods < 1309321679 624016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Alight this language is hilarious < 1309321685 241505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reversed cat example is pretty much perfect < 1309321780 374328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow hes behind this game too http://wonder-tonic.com/cannibalism/ < 1309321782 189391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a good game < 1309321791 279933 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that game < 1309321809 732778 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good game < 1309321821 64692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :any game called "resort to cannibalism" is good < 1309322039 226286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck writes things in 13/4 < 1309322129 424682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://208.87.32.71/landerbanners/he/hexham.com.jpg hexham < 1309322243 274856 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that guy floating and why is he attacking that poor lady < 1309322279 463623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tigers in hexham < 1309322284 254844 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good picture of a whatever that is licking its nose too < 1309322289 420224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiggers and hammocks < 1309322290 951146 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a tiger? < 1309322295 943272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes total tiger < 1309322298 18625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :total hexham.com.jpg < 1309322306 341746 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do tiger noses taste good < 1309322310 157359 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1309322313 395523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1309322317 40602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no) < 1309322727 541895 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1309323052 582107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im a tarball i space < 1309323094 363898 :foocraft!~ewanas@178.152.126.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1309323105 709521 :foocraft_!~ewanas@78.100.177.234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309323118 148220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-O3FKFI74 first zepto game < 1309323236 102446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD_(video_game) oh i've reada bout this before < 1309323237 7412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1309323277 795412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how annoying the walking is < 1309323297 8929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN7TLylDxqs this is amazing < 1309323312 330080 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-206-241.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1309323320 7673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1309323323 89135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it even doing < 1309323335 675209 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of that game < 1309323343 114496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trumpets < 1309323348 745646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is amazing watch that video i just linked monqy it's wow < 1309323359 309131 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :face < 1309323389 139205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this guy sinking as he walks < 1309323494 776866 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trumpets < 1309323640 54485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDji5zhu1nc ending of that game < 1309323713 786132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha does it really shake the controller JESUS OH MY GOD THAT IS TERRIFYING < 1309323715 57561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2LV7320zA < 1309323716 162243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at forty seconsd < 1309323717 252246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fUCk < 1309323779 486495 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what was that < 1309323824 29474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need this game < 1309323872 513866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the worst thing is if you rewind a bit < 1309323877 70587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see that it isn't there before they look < 1309323884 294509 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1309323924 412645 :ineiros!~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1309323940 996332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF55WLjljMQ wow < 1309323945 720989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the real soundtrack < 1309323946 630452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant be < 1309323984 569559 :ineiros!~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1309323989 109077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://torrentz.eu/search?f=LSD+dream+eulator < 1309323990 230644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tempting < 1309324211 45397 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1309324228 273540 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1309325077 511924 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1309325989 45887 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-206-241.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1309326237 22101 :_foocraft!~ewanas@178.152.77.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309326434 357695 :foocraft_!~ewanas@78.100.177.234 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1309326482 719401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :New! People widget < 1309326482 908942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are the participants in this conversation. The details come from information that is already in your Contacts. < 1309326482 909131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do not currently share a photo with recipients. < 1309326482 909300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update your photo… < 1309326482 909434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some actions, such as collapse/expand, are now icons to the right of the subject or can be found in the More menu in the toolbar. < 1309326485 611166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1309326487 461688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GMAIL QHT ARE YOU DOING STOP CHANGING < 1309326494 12648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :google what is going on we need to talk < 1309326511 758538 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did they do this time? < 1309326519 780706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=761&q=help+why+is+google+changing&oq=help+why+is+google+changing&aq=f&aqi=&aql=undefined&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1100l4107l0l27l16l0l8l0l0l732l1502l3-1.1.0.1l3 < 1309326525 87121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help it in't sovligny mr ptobvlem < 1309326533 928587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i don't actually mind the changes its just fun to pretend i do < 1309326542 672157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1440&bih=761&q=help+no+stop+go+back&oq=help+no+stop+go+back&aq=f&aqi=&aql=undefined&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=24130l25946l0l22l14l0l7l0l0l205l993l1.5.1l7 < 1309326548 24445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1440&bih=761&q=i+dont+like+you+any+more&oq=i+dont+like+you+any+more&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=undefined&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=3269l4940l0l24l7l0l0l0l0l401l401l4-1l1 < 1309326555 562566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't doig hwat i say < 1309326593 508999 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told google to solve all of my problems < 1309326594 846997 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it didnt < 1309326622 905851 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101128134505AAgjzqU but it did find me this gem < 1309326657 726707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a man doesn't exist, he hasn't any problems, does it? < 1309326674 385842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering replacing my wiki user page with that < 1309326767 33821 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if mister braun did the suicide < 1309326784 239896 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, we couldn't find who you were looking for < 1309326784 576758 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This person may not exist, there may be a problem with the link or **gulp** their account has been suspended. < 1309326785 314101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he invented razors < 1309326787 745447 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p. < 1309326793 510754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip razors < 1309326797 15894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, stereos, < 1309326804 727209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uM, wHAT ELSE DO BRAUN MAKE, < 1309326815 249635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Founder(s) Max Braun < 1309326815 972621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1309326916 231657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear audacity, what kind of person is called nasca octavian paul < 1309327225 160851 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind of person nasca octavian paul is, obviously < 1309327330 443039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZynAddSubFX is a open source software synthesizer capable of making a countless number of instruments, from some common heard from expensive hardware to interesting sounds that you'll boost to an amazing universe of sounds. < 1309327330 632900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The project was started in March 2002 by Nasca Octavian Paul. He began to write ZynAddSubFX in order to create a synthesizer which could produce beautiful sounds, while being freely available to anybody who needs it. < 1309327377 71378 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . from some common heard from expensive hardware to interesting sounds that you'll boost to an amazing universe of sounds. < 1309327380 77927 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1309327448 220319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will < 1309368853 259646 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh df -h . < 1309368854 989314 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/df: Warning: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory < 1309368863 190726 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh :P < 1309368867 251865 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if this'll work: < 1309368869 97805 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run df -h . < 1309368873 363687 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1309368887 250240 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, anyway, there's space now X-P < 1309369461 185776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you delete /var, or something silly like that? < 1309369632 767250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hmm, the latest big "hack" attempt was accidental, by Googlebot < 1309369704 858882 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo "test" < 1309369705 291370 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1309369721 274093 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what "hack"? < 1309369749 47941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently one of Groupon's subsidiaries posted their entire username/password index, without hashing or encryption, somewhere publicly indexable < 1309369758 623133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably by mistake, but it's a pretty silly thing to do < 1309369775 246484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 300,000 entries < 1309369793 853324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Googlebot just went and downloaded a copy, like it's supposed to, and started serving it to everyone < 1309369799 491476 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1309369805 292286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx googlebot < 1309369818 390693 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, Groupon? < 1309369829 849090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard of them either < 1309369831 997451 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why on earth wouldn't they use hash < 1309369839 692682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently they're relatively major < 1309369853 592694 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :groupon is a pyramid scheme basically < 1309369858 442810 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cant hear the word "groupon" without thinking "raging groupon" < 1309369859 663083 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard the brand name "Groupon" before, can't remember where, or what they do < 1309369860 548741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're apparently in the middle of an IPO that values them at $15 billion < 1309369861 801452 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that made a lot of money < 1309369880 490270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the press think it's not an implausible value < 1309369914 732372 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :groupon is clever. trick unsophisticated businesses into taking a loss with the profits going to groupon. < 1309369930 885777 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it has a fatal flaw.. bankruptcy. < 1309369933 736807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how exactly does it work? < 1309369947 964371 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks wikipedia < 1309369956 310675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I predict about a 70% chance it'll have useful info explaining < 1309369960 191220 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :groupon gives businesses money up front, in exchange groupon is allowed to come up with some coupons and give them out to customers that cost the businesses money < 1309370002 825429 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and groupon gets paid for this promotion, i think based on how many customers it delivers? < 1309370007 456045 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.knewton.com/blog/knewton/from-jose/2011/06/03/groupon-is-a-straight-up-ponzi-scheme/ < 1309370052 164586 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.couponing101.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/gap-receipt.jpg < 1309370130 38285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the Ponzi scheme thing seems to refer to people investing in Groupon < 1309370151 386387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems beneficial for Groupon's customers (the companies) and Groupon's users, too < 1309370177 461793 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not beneficial for the customers < 1309370181 553020 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like groupon customers arent so happy, in general. < 1309370192 45858 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they give product away at a loss < 1309370194 5701 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they get lots of business on unfavorable terms and are not translating well to repeat business < 1309370210 236475 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because the discount is so deep and can be repeated elsewhere, this does not create loyalty < 1309370214 524436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I didn't realise the companies would be so stupid as to use lossmaking values for the discounts < 1309370224 374892 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Groupon requirs it < 1309370226 28725 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*requires < 1309370229 34810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed the coupons would let the companies' customers buy at cost or slightly more < 1309370232 950395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :requires? OK, that's silly < 1309370235 958832 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RANDOM HILARIOUS NEWS OF THE DAY: my half-Japanese friend doesn't know what catgirls are. < 1309370245 240118 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Or, well, 'negotiates' < 1309370250 229688 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais: thats where the cash upfront comes in. < 1309370255 211410 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :desperate companies take the deal < 1309370261 252392 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then take a bath < 1309370264 829905 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Strictly speaking, the typical rate is 50% discount, groupon gets hallf the money on a sale < 1309370266 618929 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems pretty predatory to me < 1309370273 384009 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so the merchant is selling at 25% < 1309370277 316548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1309370297 596966 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :few merchants can sustainably sell at 25% < 1309370312 382664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought many businesses could actually afford 75% discounts from regular prices, on many products < 1309370315 941433 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what you need to do is form a company, form a groupon. declare bankruptcy, move to bahamas < 1309370321 608713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on the business, profit margins can be really high < 1309370331 279004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't make much sense if you have marrow margins < 1309370333 936682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*narrow < 1309370339 919787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: do you benefit from this? < 1309370347 946637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to hurt Groupon, but I don't see how it helps you < 1309370350 591118 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :High-elasticity products will have narrow margins < 1309370357 260804 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Narrow margins are fine if your throughput is huge. < 1309370359 443113 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, actual coupon users get a bargain < 1309370359 793741 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais: groupon gives you cash up front for your coupons < 1309370383 961664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1309370399 595174 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Also, the margin is never all at the retail end < 1309370400 849488 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you see how this might be a little predatory? :) < 1309370406 182902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I thought this was a sensible business model originally < 1309370410 804899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the more I hear about it, the stupider it seems < 1309370418 67728 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? that's what they want investors to think < 1309370422 694272 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh that sounds great here's my money" < 1309370437 827957 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then just take advantage that rational actors have no influence on the market < 1309370439 784031 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and WHEEEE < 1309370462 68306 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :must put a lot of stress on an industry.. all your competitors are getting cash up front for this great groupon tihng, your customers all shop next door for a few months, you take a loss, then your competitors take a loss < 1309370468 609143 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then things go back to normal? < 1309370488 688703 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for those few months your competitors all probably seem like geniuses < 1309370489 11598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't think it's a pyramid scheme, though < 1309370497 103778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something else < 1309370500 654725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a different sort of scam < 1309370527 431831 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's a pyramid scheme in that it relies on untapped markets to get revenue in an unsustainable fashion < 1309370536 322477 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you run out of untapped markets, it collapses < 1309370546 974092 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, not a pyramid scheme. < 1309370553 652080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that's a necessary condition to be a pyramid scheme, but not a sufficient one < 1309370560 577132 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pyramid schemes require exponential growth as well. < 1309370568 655 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have that < 1309370571 376608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pyramid schemes rely on their members thinking that other people will join < 1309370586 40854 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. does a pyramid scheme require exponential growth? < 1309370588 691327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :groupon relies on the opposite < 1309370596 122971 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldnt you have a pyramid scheme with jsut n^2 growth? seems like it would work. < 1309370606 584801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: in theory you can have a pyramid scheme that grows linearly in members and linearly in size of investment < 1309370611 396222 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just has to be super linear, right? < 1309370618 706742 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, wouldn't be a pyramid scheme. < 1309370622 353279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most people will notice it'll quickly collapse < 1309370627 152011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, not technically < 1309370632 480019 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if its just linear how would you pay off early investors? < 1309370644 379680 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pyramid schemes require that investors profit by being paid off with new investors. < 1309370657 882537 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they almost always have a roughly fixed growth constant. < 1309370669 332586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: investor 1 pays investor 0 $1, then investor 2 pays investor 1 $2, then investor 3 pays investor 2 $3, etc < 1309370672 772494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone makes a $1 profit < 1309370678 99554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the last person to join < 1309370695 969160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most people will notice that people will be unlikely to join that after a bit < 1309370711 159817 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1309370720 656884 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309370804 138701 :jcp|other!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1309370931 619146 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais: the amount of money is growing n^2 in that scheme, no? < 1309371012 798581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1309371020 210882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quadratic overall < 1309371030 258549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because two different things are growing linearly < 1309371043 567974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the amount of money owed at any given time is O(n) < 1309371119 615339 :javawizard!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309371235 179787 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1309371451 305191 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309372639 661166 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@64.134.240.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309375055 266035 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, there? < 1309375066 693730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1309375074 241567 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what about SSD optimisation stuff. What needs to be done to make the most out of an SSD < 1309375106 738210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally nothing. you can set like two lvm flags to align the metadata, but that was relevant like < 1309375107 895983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few years ago < 1309375111 537260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to look into getting TRIM < 1309375113 436565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apart from that < 1309375119 210103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep calm and carry on, it'll be fine < 1309375133 910214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the blog that had the lvm flag is now down, heh < 1309375135 115516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ted t'sos) < 1309375136 483383 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, right, so those flags need not be set? < 1309375154 434833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you can do it if you want like < 1309375157 57063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :half a millisecond < 1309375158 922744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i would not bother < 1309375169 972846 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what about wear with/without? < 1309375171 97936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of thinking will lead to you avoiding upgrading the system because it would involve a write :) < 1309375175 374440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: should be the same < 1309375178 506759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can dreg up the flag anyway < 1309375185 309067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no harm at least < 1309375187 709352 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1309375209 914180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: this may make using the debian installer harder though if you're going that route :D < 1309375223 952239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ok see http://web.archive.org/web/20090224074532/http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/02/20/aligning-filesystems-to-an-ssds-erase-block-size/ < 1309375231 865255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: (ps use jfs) < 1309375237 601573 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I went path of least resistance: reusing existing install of arch. At least to begin with < 1309375242 725401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jfs jfs jfs :D jfs < 1309375244 77154 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, finally what about TRIM? < 1309375249 875104 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what about brtfs? < 1309375263 62652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux 2.6.33 Feb 2010 [20] Not all filesystems make use of TRIM. Ext4 and Btrfs are known to support it[21] < 1309375265 592733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: btrfs is oracle-controlled < 1309375266 798604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unstable < 1309375271 226767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the point of "this may eat your data" right onw < 1309375284 955201 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... < 1309375286 693485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I guess you can go with ext4 if TRIM is vital but note < 1309375292 168252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you can always reset the SSD to stock state < 1309375295 456267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the special intel boot cd things < 1309375298 842520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and copy your data back < 1309375308 661941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not like not having TRIM is a permanent crippling < 1309375309 133957 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like work. TRIM sounds like less work < 1309375320 531021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um you realise that it would take many years to get to a situation where TRIM would be relevant? < 1309375328 156292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which point most fses will support it < 1309375335 271272 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1309375340 875135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying that TRIM shouldn't matter much right now < 1309375384 961532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anyway, I wouldn't worry, I mean, I use an SSD with Linux after all :P < 1309375400 3121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No alignment, I doubt it does TRIM since my drive is Apple-only stuff < 1309375405 191997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is ridiculously fast < 1309375406 281591 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1309375423 79079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OS X does TRIM as of late, but I never use OS X) < 1309375434 622166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr don't worry about it < 1309375614 946191 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, btw where did I say it was Intel? < 1309375620 722002 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is, but why did you assume that?) < 1309375631 979329 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1309375650 363021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Because if it isn't, you're a fool, and it's pointless to bother microoptimising :P < 1309375669 503659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He says, using a non-Intel SSD, but then Apple's SSD suppliers are Good.) < 1309375674 867274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not as good as Intel though.) < 1309375741 78826 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pvs /dev/sdb2 -o+pe_start <-- blurgh, how do you even read that < 1309375754 991614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you realise that was written for the previous gen intel ssds btw? < 1309375756 963734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't even bother < 1309375760 486324 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah < 1309375771 181611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're meant to have magic to make it have no effect anyway... SUPPOSEDLY < 1309375771 395321 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I meant the option :P - AND + in one option < 1309375781 295474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought LVM was usable and simple and perfect < 1309375789 585778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I misspelled gigantic headache. < 1309376392 41581 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the LVM tools changed anyway, they align on 1 MB now it seems < 1309376405 17484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1309376419 697849 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it should work nicely < 1309376430 381973 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, now for the fs for /boot... hm < 1309376462 486954 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, be glad I didn't ask you about the hell that is GPT (which my system can boot, I just decide not to) < 1309376469 150658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you going for main partition? < 1309376493 175098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ext2 for /boot is probably the safest, because grub one can't boot JFS iirc, and you don't need journalling or anything < 1309376526 898733 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well LVM, and /usr, /opt etc on that... /home and such on non-SSD anyway < 1309376536 734570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was asking what iflesystem < 1309376538 831765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :filesystem < 1309376541 774601 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1309376546 853488 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I haven't decided yet < 1309376556 53931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i mentioned jfs jfs jfs, thought that was quite relevant < 1309376563 495113 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I had jfs corrupt my data before < 1309376574 401911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh really? i kind of doubt jfs was the culprit < 1309376580 726227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it is IBM after all :D < 1309376605 329563 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, jfs didn't work well with vmware < 1309376614 47015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :howso < 1309376641 815252 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, data corruption < 1309376649 688445 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I heard it was blamed on jfs < 1309376673 77142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, inside vmware? < 1309376677 77222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or running vmware vms on a jfs filesystem < 1309376693 192436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the latter, seems fishy considering vmware's general quality :P < 1309376723 427982 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, having disk images on jfs paritions < 1309376731 101671 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and the bug was found and fixed iirc < 1309376732 852976 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :in jfs code < 1309376738 985662 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :was a few years ago < 1309376745 815490 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying, I'm no fan of jfs since then < 1309376747 240696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems unfair to hold it against JFS then, not like ext has never had bugs :P < 1309376757 376618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're gonna use a formally verified file system... < 1309376776 87040 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ext had bugs yes. However a key difference is that they never corrupted data for me < 1309376790 307425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All down to chance :P < 1309376791 153091 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@64.134.240.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also realize that modern science has figured out that apparently most, if not all, species on earth died during the ice age. And that human life forms seem to be the only one who survived, because human DNA has been found from before the ice age, that shows there were three different kinds of humans on earth, all very closely resembling the current human population. " < 1309376832 670993 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaat < 1309376840 302422 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@64.134.240.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/27558 < 1309376849 342335 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, so.... things like horses would descend from us? < 1309376851 46029 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1309376856 819946 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no fucking sense < 1309376863 149553 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fish etc < 1309376867 494152 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bacterias < 1309376892 282035 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@64.134.240.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I think the idea is that all those things were after the ice age??... I have trouble understanding this silliness myself < 1309376944 423564 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@64.134.240.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/i-dont-believe-in-god-jesus-or-the-bible-gods-manual-on-atheism-and-other-religions-free-from-bondage-ministry/1029147114?r=1&if=N&cm_mmc=Store-_-k352219-_-j12871747k352219-_-Primary read this for the reviews < 1309376993 636596 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1309377040 83745 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@64.134.240.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, this is apparently a combination of the Garden of Eve story with "God made Angels first, they were like humans, and this was before the Garden of Eden" < 1309377065 130160 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes back to carefully setting up the system < 1309377132 587062 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/ica2j/does_a_fetus_have_brain_waves/ < 1309377141 33165 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guessing abortion is going to come into this one. < 1309377201 900975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/ic5h6/how_do_gas_planets_work_ie_jupiter_nuptune_etc/ < 1309377204 541582 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuptune. < 1309377221 768143 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mighty Nuptune, Lord of the Ocuans. < 1309377305 813773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: are you looking for stupid posts in that particular subreddit? < 1309377316 675834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not necessarily stupid, but likely to attract idiots (which is not the same thing)? < 1309377338 806794 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, nah, it's just that things like this end up with a certain quantity of badly-formed questions. < 1309377360 457785 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"abnormally abends" <-- what a lovely phrase (man mount, section on jfs) < 1309377380 711105 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :because abend means ending abnormally according to google < 1309377395 921054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it abnormally ends abnormally? < 1309377411 331669 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no no... "abnormally abnormally ends" < 1309377431 313770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abnends. < 1309377436 348371 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1309377456 994674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "Abend" is german for "afternoon" < 1309377508 112610 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, "evening" < 1309377521 758458 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abnormal_end < 1309377617 107637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: err, right < 1309377622 349059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was even thinking "evening" as I typed that line < 1309377638 731640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and looked up when I saw your correction and found that I'd somehow written the wrong thing anyway < 1309378346 271734 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, man mkfs.ext4, check docs for -E discard/nodiscard < 1309378350 968646 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :both claim to be the default < 1309378351 669871 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1309378381 705490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1309378641 921015 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do this error look sane to you? "The resize maximum must be greater than the filesystem size." < 1309378657 853696 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it doesn't to me, because I'm trying to go for the "equal" case < 1309378662 582959 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gives me that < 1309378663 230510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because it allocates some space for it, IIRC < 1309378679 750884 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, I'm trying to go for the case of not being able to grow my /boot < 1309378689 722945 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see, I don't plan to resize /boot < 1309378703 571756 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact since it is an MBR style partition, it would be a PITA < 1309378738 840420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just choose a size slightly bigger, FFS < 1309378768 367243 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well I did, but it still seems stupid :P < 1309378868 300723 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Showing results for ZFS TRIM. Search instead for JFS TRIM. < 1309378871 965263 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you google < 1309378917 69008 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1309378924 914876 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ^ < 1309378958 674466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you complain about jfs data loss < 1309378961 589551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: and then go to use zfs? < 1309378962 926043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L M A O < 1309378971 185773 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, fail < 1309378975 538005 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, read what I said again < 1309378986 925710 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I searched for JFS TRIM < 1309378988 481302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1309378989 178422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1309378992 878163 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gave me ZFS TRIM < 1309379010 211455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't think jfs supports TRIM yet < 1309379012 976643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1309379013 694888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://lwn.net/Articles/345020/ < 1309379016 931293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :found via http://www.mail-archive.com/jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net/msg01486.html < 1309379055 217018 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so ext4 it is < 1309379067 79877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: um did you not read my link < 1309379082 558504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also did you not listen when I said TRIM is really irrelevant for you and you can always retcon it on later if it gets added < 1309379142 838094 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I did < 1309379146 153311 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :check it < 1309379156 478206 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lets see < 1309379175 353899 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1309379180 462832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :These basically scan for free blocks in a filesystem, and batch them together < 1309379180 648727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :into huge DSM/TRIM commands to the drive, letting it know about them all for < 1309379180 797362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :garbage-collection and wear-leveling purposes. < 1309379189 556291 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, using hdparm on jfs on top of lvm2... HRRM! < 1309379202 529852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But seriously, don't make an FS decision based on TRIM support, it's really irrelevant considering you can < 1309379213 841790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- wipe the drive and copy the fs back later if trim gets added < 1309379220 636026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- it won't make any difference at all for years and years anyway < 1309379246 290380 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1309379315 353088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you don't even have to wipe the drive < 1309379319 610216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just take advance of TRIM incrementally < 1309379324 777797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you wanted it to be like "TRIM all along"... < 1309379417 743204 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1309380559 971567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1309380564 733971 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309381268 194739 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw "abend" in the log ... I hope you were talking about abnormal ends of batch jobs < 1309381305 980559 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw: batch is only one letter away from bitch) < 1309381329 792402 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :botch butch betch bytch < 1309381395 600508 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :botch < 1309381398 923160 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bqodhthc < 1309381399 432774 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bqtch < 1309381402 17172 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bztch < 1309381403 574647 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl: "protect yourself from net fraud with paypal" ... more like expose yourself < 1309381405 334564 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bltch < 1309381406 713319 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bptch < 1309381407 777026 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbtch < 1309381409 286959 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bttch < 1309381425 827588 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've encountered net fraud exactly once, and it was paypal who stole my money < 1309381493 833738 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :paypal creueueu < 1309381510 977121 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :paypal ? < 1309381619 413548 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oijod < 1309381676 698066 :foocraft_!~ewanas@78.100.217.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309381772 453657 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :/kick elliott_ < 1309381788 662331 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im contributing intellectual < 1309381798 598342 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first i followed on with monqy, "themes on bach" < 1309381800 457905 :_foocraft!~ewanas@178.152.77.164 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1309381807 994876 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i was "paypal absurd moneyfraud extraordinphishaire" < 1309381809 867741 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phsyishying < 1309381888 346814 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long and thanks for all the phish < 1309381891 867868 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@64.134.240.168 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1309382100 605986 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: oijod! < 1309382105 229475 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: joisfj < 1309382123 977789 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/kick quintopia < 1309382125 229006 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looked like "oljud" during the first three (or so) looks < 1309382131 599187 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is swedish for noise < 1309382193 646907 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, annoying noise - not-as-annoying noise has a different word) < 1309382293 358080 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1309383172 341084 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oljad oljud < 1309383220 375991 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's it in norwegian then? < 1309383242 942216 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's what? < 1309383417 299895 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what what? < 1309383430 679966 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :jag menar, vad heter "oljud" på norska? < 1309383438 975319 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ulyd < 1309383448 707298 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :halló hvað er að gerast < 1309383464 193146 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: ikkje nåkka < 1309383480 445657 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ég tala ekki það tungumál hvað er þetta hjálpa þar sem er eldfjalla minn: ( < 1309383510 123725 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (what does that mean?) < 1309383511 369704 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... having trouble with the tongues and the volcanoes, are we? < 1309383519 77497 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why elliott_ suddenly is talking about volcanoes < 1309383540 64446 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ég er íslenskur maður við erum einföld höfum eldfjöll og einnig ís en ekki mikið meira og það er það sem er á Íslandi og < 1309383577 267290 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you must at least have polar bears < 1309383593 680703 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :can polar bears swim that far? < 1309383597 299359 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I. .. veit ekki: ( < 1309383602 688562 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjálp < 1309383624 485349 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, they're on the north pole and all the way down lofoten(?), but iceland is quite far west of there < 1309383628 733010 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i vaguely recall a story about a polar bear making it to iceland a few years ago < 1309383645 853051 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Öll ísbirnir eru í Svalbard < 1309383661 140159 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :øl er i alle fall øl < 1309383679 740837 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hvað er bjór < 1309383725 322961 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjálp hvernig að ég iceland < 1309383745 457145 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fan vet jag, men öl är öl < 1309383765 694766 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjálp hvað eru orð og, hvernig segi ég þá < 1309383795 867354 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Einnig gæti ég haft faðmlag ég er mjög langt frá Íslandi og þess vegna er ég hræddur við dauðann (þetta er íslenska leiðin; < 1309383829 263379 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was a bit confused as he thought bjór was some inflection of björn < 1309383848 96887 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ( < 1309383856 425458 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it isn't? < 1309383870 705376 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just read that as "what is bear" < 1309383875 725661 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1309383879 209015 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it's beer :P < 1309383886 72717 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is bear < 1309383894 776819 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: what is bear!? < 1309383908 866608 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hvað er bera < 1309383923 372089 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: given the crazy _actual_ declination of björn, it's completely plausible at a glance :P < 1309383955 756840 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hvað er Björn < 1309383993 673574 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: am i good icelandic < 1309384020 497033 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should ask an icelander instead of a norwegian < 1309384024 989092 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :As good as your English < 1309384037 382344 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*declension < 1309384045 237413 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: :D < 1309384057 315604 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: how do you know, you're no icelanderic. < 1309384069 364113 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you know all those language things. < 1309384075 166084 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :icelandericishman < 1309384085 264594 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i don't know enough icelandic to distinguish your sentences from grammatically correct ones < 1309384086 660403 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hvað er Björn" just seems wrong < 1309384095 937434 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't really look at the rest < 1309384106 332777 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's just S"What is Björn" < 1309384108 230893 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[asterisk]" < 1309384109 230948 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supposedly < 1309384120 759527 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"björn" seems unlikely to be the icelandic form of it < 1309384121 826738 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1309384132 404456 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a crosslingual boundarymunction < 1309384137 575114 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: um björn _is_ icelandic for bear < 1309384141 107930 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's like saying "what is elliott" < 1309384149 763058 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, weird < 1309384149 912495 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which isn't quite right < 1309384160 90766 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's also swedish for bear < 1309384166 188243 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i was surprised too :P < 1309384172 474110 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's right because that's what I typed in :P < 1309384174 910448 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To translate < 1309384177 898768 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not supposed to be the same words ever, icelandic should be weird! < 1309384183 860011 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Hence "as good as your English" < 1309384184 615051 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*weird*! < 1309384185 87705 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first guess was that it would be bjónn < 1309384190 207572 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric : olsner: um björn _is_ icelandic for bear < 1309384194 43727 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um with the "? < 1309384198 133987 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: :D < 1309384206 289493 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: ZING < 1309384221 212477 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: im hurt inside :( < 1309384221 905542 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: icelandic quotes every word you know < 1309384230 899004 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*"every" word < 1309384236 974857 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hshut up i did alt-{ space < 1309384257 883523 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt-8 space? < 1309384259 479115 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: http://www.dailykitten.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/373-046.jpg < 1309384269 506533 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: thank you < 1309384281 474841 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, or alt-Å space? < 1309384302 561584 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, of course, alt-altgr-7 < 1309384339 839249 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, what? < 1309384352 826147 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@64.134.240.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1309384374 797236 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: indeed < 1309384396 197346 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do _not_ confuse with a different daily.*tten.com < 1309384397 69927 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, what OS? I just tried it here, and it does nothing (as I expected) :P < 1309384413 300117 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: not OS, keyboard layout < 1309384418 583196 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I tried all of them) < 1309384421 582327 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, okay what keyboard layout then < 1309384445 206967 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that alt-8 was based on misreading { as ( < 1309384495 895454 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt+shift+key-right-of-p makes an alt-{ on an american layout (which is alt-Å on a swedish keyboard) < 1309384520 599934 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and alt-altgr-7 makes alt-{ on a swedish keyboard < 1309384530 461123 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if alt and altgr combine, that is < 1309384594 69025 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, ah < 1309385295 766255 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1309386046 521436 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, that physical CPU meter was in my queue of videos, just watched it. awesome < 1309386224 783201 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, what physical CPU meter? < 1309386268 296019 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1309386274 261685 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgZEfExBBiY < 1309386308 182263 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that thing actually measuring the current to the chip? < 1309386354 85051 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't know < 1309386360 32467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, probably not < 1309386374 763541 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :because adding a meter there would probably upset the chip badly :P < 1309386379 320652 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and be hard to fit too < 1309386387 580792 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its done in software < 1309386529 930566 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1309386534 241619 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → sleep < 1309386535 635790 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1309386702 114 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.85 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1309387365 454632 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@64.134.240.168 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1309387388 199378 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "abcabc"\\"a" < 1309387389 106847 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "bcabc" < 1309387474 648476 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (\\) < 1309387475 373682 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Eq a) => [a] -> [a] -> [a] < 1309387678 68632 :newsham!~chat@udp216902uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9] \\ [5,3,11] < 1309387678 825352 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,4,6,7,8,9] < 1309388528 744288 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grumble reddit is having one of those days < 1309388693 917811 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"502 Bad Gateway"? i guess that's more serious than the usual down message... < 1309389342 38176 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must construct additional pylons.