< 1306108936 758731 :elliott__!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1306108940 554711 :elliott__!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1306110680 771129 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306112518 111256 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-226-239.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306112673 816658 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-159-181.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1306112717 336087 :ralc!~ralc@79.142.230.243.static.knet.bolignet.dk QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1306113592 522831 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1306113592 644929 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1306113592 645064 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1306113732 380152 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much of a polyglot quine can you write? < 1306113774 409514 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1306115354 704851 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Lawlabee < 1306115356 234952 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​85) <@Lawlabee> Why does Monday start at 10PM on Sunday? \ 94) hahaha, Lawlabee is running windows 'cuz it's pretty awesome. \ 95) [Warrigal] `addquote hahaha, Lawlabee is running windows 'cuz it's pretty awesome. [Lawlabee] Warrigal: :( \ 112) Making a small shrine to Lawlabee < 1306115435 625733 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ths < 1306115437 25746 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​198) It's only been 2 months since anyone last made a commit! WRONG 8 WEEKS < 1306115460 106659 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote nya < 1306115461 449826 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1306115470 689967 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oln < 1306115472 180940 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1306115481 71150 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've got some trigraph gaps. < 1306115487 24681 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote nta < 1306115488 371597 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​62) yay fire! * Madelon combusts spontaneously. \ 79) i use dynamic indentation, i indent lines k times, if they are used O(n^k) times during a run of the program \ 89) hmm... does anyone know a nonsense game designed for the mentally handicapped involving yelling \ 106) and an AMICED < 1306115503 354191 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 106 < 1306115504 570495 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-226-239.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306115504 781533 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​106) and an AMICED literal would presumably /add/ info to the source whatever info gets added, that's the value that the AMICED doesn't contain it's all falling into place < 1306115686 682790 :tswett!~Warrigal@unaffiliated/ihope PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's an AMICED? < 1306115811 670696 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is something in TURKEY BOMB (see the esolang wiki) < 1306115839 5139 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMICED is described as "negative six sevenths of a decimal digit" < 1306115843 905933 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recap 3 time < 1306115870 789508 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :emit 3 pacer < 1306116443 160549 :elliott__!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: done < 1306116488 270944 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1306116533 71954 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1306116533 780040 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :raw pots won < 1306116615 442243 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1306116661 161638 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1306116735 820032 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1306116749 940629 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306116778 949408 :elliott__!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i just won all the raw pots. all of them. < 1306116827 933651 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1306116856 339413 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1306117120 505181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1306117120 765908 :elliott__!~elliott@95.149.228.7 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1306117397 914674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: btw if you said anything to elliott__ he probably died before it got through. < 1306117398 320898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1306117416 861176 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last thing I said was Ok. < 1306117458 573866 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats Sgeo_ -----### < 1306117522 709552 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh wait < 1306117530 632923 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats himself -----### < 1306117545 674850 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :READING COMPREHENSION, OERJAN < 1306117625 405720 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to Victoria yesterday and today because it cannot go tomorrow so I go today instead. It is the good Japanese restaurant, too. < 1306117783 594162 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 . < 1306117830 821714 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They make fish miso soup including noodle, and bowl of beef and eggs and rice together, without putting too much sauce, and make tea with corn, too. Also, it is not necessary to ask them for the spoon. < 1306117960 480729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1306117976 131599 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know about that? < 1306117983 462924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know everything about that. < 1306118047 312630 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you know? Have you been to Victoria? Have you been to Japanese restaurant there? Have you been to other Japanese restaurant? Have you been in Japanese restaurant in Japan? Have you cooked it yourself? < 1306118053 121691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am everywhere. < 1306118135 209664 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked behind my chair and I didn't find you. Do you mean in the past? < 1306118145 824913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am invisible. < 1306118510 629407 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many hands are you holding up? < 1306118517 854875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the hands < 1306118519 25945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them < 1306118525 105395 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Count! < 1306118543 414969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you count....FROREVER < 1306118584 305499 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306118594 449736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq is the headquarters of piks < 1306118599 301287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a new pik PIKHQ GIVE ME A FUCKING PIK < 1306118749 622887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my GOD outside birds... why do you make sounds. < 1306118857 839634 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bird is supposed to make sounds! And also people! And wind! And the other stuff! < 1306118917 411751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :poetic. < 1306119756 742693 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306119974 46449 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1306119981 691466 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306119983 417352 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1306120000 99433 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306120111 236728 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for being a nihilist he's making a lot of noise < 1306120197 332937 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1306120220 304051 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306120272 578029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: YOU ARE NOT BEING VERY DANDY AT ALL. < 1306120296 87010 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: YOU ARE NOT BEING VERY... < 1306120297 339913 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1306120303 431515 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DANDY, EITHER < 1306120341 424816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AT LEAST I STAY CONNECTED LIKE A TRUE NIHILIST < 1306120370 645381 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL CONNECTIONS ARE ILLUSORY < 1306120409 625771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE TAKING THIS VERY PERSONALLY FOR A NIHILIST < 1306120414 49519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESPECIALLY A DANDY ONE < 1306120451 413411 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've struck to the heart of me. I concede, sirrah. < 1306120885 559453 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 out of 4 statisticians objected to the small sample size of this study. < 1306120979 519664 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1306121049 674155 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 out of 1 mathematicians thinks the sample size is just fine < 1306121110 751466 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also played the D&D game while at Victoria although one of the players did not play in this session because the other players did not want them to eat and make all the crumbs fall on the bed < 1306121225 732585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1306121226 676398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1306121227 508362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1306121229 18555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking < 1306121229 727455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :about < 1306121230 876539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :core languages < 1306121232 4374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;DDDD < 1306121294 174370 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good, keep on thinking < 1306121296 899327 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1306121300 924865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT < 1306121808 899909 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense much anger in you < 1306121865 315711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :totes < 1306121868 364969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm alls with this anger < 1306121970 600828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, can delay/force be implemented in pure Scheme... < 1306121989 316367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes < 1306122005 468044 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pure = without mutation? then i doubt it... < 1306122014 322159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, pure as in without extensions < 1306122024 778356 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then yeah < 1306122026 71933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but actually the report provides one :-) < 1306122054 405552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306122058 927314 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306122085 931963 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1306122095 4605 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Scheme define any other "unspecified types" like it does promises, I wonder < 1306122104 166700 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. it's perfectly fine for a promise to be a pair, a string, a procedure, anything < 1306122108 896187 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't actually distinguish promises portably... < 1306122758 322894 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer's sensors claim that the +5V line out of the PSU is outputting +3.04V, and the +12V line +4.08V... < 1306122767 27246 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *highly* doubt that that's true. < 1306122792 193639 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure my RAM would be randomised. < 1306122816 807903 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hey, what's the playstation two emulation state like. < 1306122820 405283 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad? < 1306122829 37525 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realise the only thing that'll work is HLE but are there any? < 1306122838 719631 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Googling suggests there's, like, a handful, but god knows how good they are. < 1306122844 666154 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCSX2 is the only PS2 emulator. < 1306122862 334900 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the one I'm looking at -- but, er, google suggests otherwise. < 1306122868 591159 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the only /good/ one? :P < 1306122871 701152 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It requires a decent computer & graphics card, but it seems to have decent compatibility. < 1306122879 725488 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the only one that you're going to actually play games with. < 1306122902 592646 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1306122947 152245 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should just buy a bunch of consoles and hook them up to a network somehow rather than trying to emulate them. < 1306122957 129706 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're reporting 65% playability rate on the PS2 library with the latest release... < 1306122980 942164 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is actually a pretty astounding feat considering how much of a fucking pain the PS2 is. < 1306122986 565185 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only question is, will it run on this laptop? < 1306122993 307153 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your CPU and GPU? < 1306123016 838370 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My CPU = 2.13GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 6MB shared L2 cache < 1306123026 691630 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU is good enough. < 1306123028 786532 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's a MacBook Air, so it's probably not the latest Core 2 model either... (but it is the new model.) < 1306123032 381482 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPU is... < 1306123043 352768 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory3 < 1306123046 591795 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is apparently "okay". < 1306123054 140517 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm, decent chance of it working. < 1306123058 858275 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's meant to be the best integrated laptop GPU or something like that, which is like being the best... mediocre thing. < 1306123076 547633 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hey, it can do Minecraft on Far/Fancy with a bunch of graphical mods at >hundred fps, SO CLEARLY IT'S A SPEED DEMON. < 1306123096 868154 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beats mine. < 1306123102 342499 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, aren't PS2 games distributed on DVDs? < 1306123106 162260 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they are. < 1306123111 979598 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a few exceptions. < 1306123113 797603 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me they're mostly the four gig kind. < 1306123126 12670 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the PS2 will also read PS2 games on CD-ROM; this was not much used) < 1306123131 749218 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The time it would take to download 9 gigabytes exceeds the enjoyment I could possibly glean from any game. < 1306123134 344943 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least on this connection. < 1306123135 323358 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're mostly the 4 gig kind. < 1306123149 123710 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might give it a go later then. < 1306123202 223309 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, this thing came out in *2000*. < 1306123233 415624 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeaaaah, but it came from /Japan/ and even /they/ got it from visiting technological space aliens. < 1306123240 790300 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the time, developers were probably having trouble thinking up ways to use 4 gigs... < 1306123255 437269 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the exception of Square, which was probably highly tempted to make FFX a 2-disc game. < 1306123255 624133 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to Luddite space aliens that rode in on a wagon. < 1306123302 657879 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 gigs is way more than enough for most things (other than movies) < 1306123344 41523 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: games are getting more and more cinematic... < 1306123345 567415 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yeah, most of the space for modern games is video and audio. Code is negligible. < 1306123351 71659 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: If it takes too long to download, purchase the CD or DVD of it (if you have money and can find to purchase) < 1306123359 320164 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't have a CD/DVD drive < 1306123408 760849 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. That is one reason to download the copy from elsewise. < 1306123411 170226 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, 4 gigs is way more than enough for movies if you don't mind it being SD, and can use x264. < 1306123420 357893 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from...elsewise? < 1306123428 504030 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, including from elsewise. < 1306123433 488800 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: who likes SD NOT ME < 1306123454 547976 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you want full 1080p, 4 to 8G is entirely reasonable. < 1306123463 309311 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If and only if you can use x264, of course. < 1306123481 639908 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure wish H.264 wasn't encumbered < 1306123485 157699 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I don't mind it being SD but I want to use a format that is not patented. < 1306123504 151054 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a shame H.264 is encumbered. < 1306123515 233153 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, if you're committing an act of piracy, who cares :-P < 1306123515 824175 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because x264 is so *ridiculously* far ahead of the competition. < 1306123537 427810 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then wait for patent to expire before using it, if it is patented < 1306123575 33426 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Only in the past year have patents that were first made in my lifetime started to expire. < 1306123581 253973 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: speaking of x264, after the ffmpeg/libav drama I joined the channels of both and DarkShikari took the wrong side and I was sad but then I realised WOW that is a really stupid thing to be sad about and reconsidered my life decisions and it turns out I'm a terrible person, hi < 1306123618 637458 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: DarkShikari probably took the side with the most technical merit, politics be damned. < 1306123629 797368 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both nearly identical :P < 1306123643 932485 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAH, HUMBUG. < 1306123654 868475 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU AND YOUR "FORKS HAVEN'T DIVERGED YET" < 1306123681 274694 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i just don't think i can ever use libav with the ridiculous childishness i saw on the lists < 1306123688 418821 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think many games have too much movies in it, it not only uses up disk space but also time, you have to watch the movie to understand the game and you cannot skip it, too bad! < 1306123692 127300 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Oh? < 1306123699 818680 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: didn't i already tell you about this?? < 1306123706 623414 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't think so. < 1306123711 653847 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they basically rewrote the ffmpeg website because they had the commit bit, to have them as the new core team < 1306123715 799057 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because changing it on the website makes it true < 1306123719 99886 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a game where maybe only 1% consists of audio/video and special effects on screen < 1306123733 429664 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then after this coup d'etat was reverted, they decided to "change the name of ffmpeg" (read: fork the project to get rid of the maintainer) < 1306123736 226685 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so they set up new mailing lists < 1306123738 398197 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think that games are focusing way too much on shiny bits over substance, personally. < 1306123744 806702 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: then /automatically subscribed every single person on the ffmpeg list to the new libav/ < 1306123747 347519 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: then /automatically subscribed every single person on the ffmpeg list to the new libav list/ < 1306123759 856359 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: and then /posted on the ffmpeg list saying they were "renaming the list, so it would be shutting down in a few days"/ < 1306123762 991110 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not kidding < 1306123775 171330 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: ... *Jeeze*. < 1306123779 708793 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coup fails? PRETEND IT DIDN'T < 1306123780 216826 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, I think so, too. Mostly because many people don't know a lot of things about game design (including mathematical things about game design, but not limited to that). < 1306123787 181585 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fork instead? PRETEND IT'S A RENAME < 1306123799 952403 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and try and technologically destroy your parent project < 1306123803 837939 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE PERFECT CRIME < 1306123819 358646 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: And not even just talking about gameplay. You can see the same thing with game plots. < 1306123857 126203 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "Deep, involved story? Nah, let's just put a few bishōnen in the cast and spend a few extra million on CGI, and call it a day." < 1306123885 92496 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of the games industry, i can't believe telltale games are still afloat < 1306123888 878119 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Depending on the game, some kind of game don't need too much of involved story, however. < 1306123890 119957 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are/is whatever < 1306123906 419172 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: True, but some kinds do. < 1306124001 311196 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A puzzle game doesn't need a story, except for text adventure games including puzzles. I also consider text-adventure games to be the closest kind to role-playing games (such as Dungeons&Dragons), which also should have some kinds of stories although it can be modified. < 1306124041 244895 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wrote a article about some things about computer game design, in my gopher server. < 1306124050 812155 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I would like your opinion of this article, too. < 1306124198 700708 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sure I wrote some things that some people will disagree with, although some of this disagreement will be due to not understanding it. < 1306124300 71778 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you read it? < 1306124481 728687 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1306124526 181611 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I was trying to ask pikhq (not you), but that is OK too, since it is public message and anyone is allowed to answer and/or complain about it. < 1306124663 893465 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops! Too bad, I forgot to write the URL(s)!!! < 1306124680 689085 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore maybe you have to guess < 1306124782 483960 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you agree, that in Caverns of Zeux, you have unlimited < 1306124793 1305 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you agree, that in Caverns of Zeux, you have unlimited in Caverns of Zeux, you have unlimited < 1306124816 226223 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you agree, that in Caverns of Zeux, you have unlimited ammunition, which ruins this system of scoring? < 1306124880 880742 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, < 1306125382 174066 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com NOTICE #esoteric :(Received blank message from client) < 1306125406 648081 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-zzo38/#esoteric- (Received blank message from client) < 1306125652 336921 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Do you have any opinions of computer games design? Either way, make up one computer game that has its own opinions of computer games design. < 1306125655 129569 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i take it the message was not actually blank? < 1306125683 278217 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Message? Do you mean the message that says "(Received blank message from client)"? < 1306125758 237443 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1306125783 588273 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it was not actually blank. I did type those words in. < 1306126974 678479 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Quit: AWAY < 1306128592 394295 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what would be amazing? A function that converts a Perl regex into a Parsec parser. < 1306129146 929959 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds... horrible :P < 1306129155 415277 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parsec parsers are easier to write than regexps. < 1306129766 267977 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1306129912 149199 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306129922 795617 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1306129925 60500 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was fun. < 1306129940 83501 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernel panic, sysrq didn't work. < 1306130103 559388 :wareya_!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1306130467 197001 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is sysrq supposed to work during kernel panic? If so, how can there be a kernel panic where it doesn't work, that's scary < 1306130565 152968 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sysrq works as long as the *keyboard driver* works. < 1306130572 150654 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is very, very low level. < 1306130767 783913 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1306131246 711536 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1306131361 856253 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Clearly we need a Sysrq that works EVEN IF THE KEYBOARD DRIVER DOESN'T < 1306131376 592227 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morse code on the power button, perhaps? < 1306131659 670825 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: You're not going to get anything to work without some CPU modification. < 1306131683 936452 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At minimum, an absolutely unavoidable interrupt. < 1306131723 897734 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bios could set up a system management interrupt < 1306131745 954910 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's almost impossible for the operating system to work around < 1306131975 671984 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1306132004 721039 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1306132004 802282 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1306132004 802401 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1306132049 215387 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes but it's also impossible for it to _react_ to :D < 1306132291 84840 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put code in bios to handle the magic sysrq for every version and configuration of linux and any other operating system < 1306132583 776223 :Lymia!~moe@adsl-69-149-32-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306132583 858200 :Lymia!~moe@adsl-69-149-32-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net QUIT :Changing host < 1306132583 858339 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1306135072 840831 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wire an interrupt line to the keyboard. < 1306135087 844108 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it unmaskable. < 1306135091 553993 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Viola. < 1306135125 5024 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it fire even if interrupts are off ;D < 1306135133 131437 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Label the button "PANIC". < 1306135134 92357 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1306135145 835346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306135148 775227 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1306135163 258836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1306135164 320834 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, and what would it do? < 1306135168 936659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to spend all day marking exams < 1306135175 641524 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: Fire an unmaskable interrupt. < 1306135175 760956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I came in here before the marking session starts < 1306135180 962343 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :From.. a keyboard. < 1306135184 181675 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: get us to mark them for you, it'll be GREAT < 1306135186 990475 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: Yes? < 1306135190 998442 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds fun. < 1306135193 948505 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: It's for when magic sysrq would fail. < 1306135199 710519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I think that would violate some sort of data protection law < 1306135207 217800 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I SPIT ON LAW < 1306135218 572934 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, get a program to do it for you. < 1306135225 331733 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exams? < 1306135271 714249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first-year programming (specifically Java) < 1306135279 964643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's more about the concepts than the languages < 1306135281 194996 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1306135285 368172 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disappointing. < 1306135302 614731 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the exam was written right, you could automatically grade "write code" segments, couldn't you? < 1306135333 98902 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... is it on paper. < 1306135336 971410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if the student got it right < 1306135339 859247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's on paper, ofc < 1306135342 671870 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap. < 1306135345 518707 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :No code on it, right? < 1306135346 93714 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :D= < 1306135352 68159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(working out how many marks to give to a partially wrong answer is hard to do automatically) < 1306135358 658549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course there's code on it, it's a programming exam < 1306135368 288921 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :On paper. < 1306135370 59997 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds nasty. < 1306135370 663557 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1306135395 963592 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what, those poor kids have to /code/ on /paper/? that's a violation of some kind of international law, isn't it? < 1306135402 49182 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, human rights? < 1306135419 662284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it's to stop them randomly typing stuff into NetBeans in the hope of triggering the autocomplete < 1306135424 959389 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahah < 1306135478 370817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen it happen < 1306135485 430200 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what kinds of questions are used? < 1306135500 494831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. a C programmer assuming that "sizeof" was invalid, and trying to use "size_t" instead, because "sizeof" wasn't in the autocomplete < 1306135506 59806 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: int x = malloc size_t(sizeof). printf(x\n); < 1306135518 463659 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 just cringed IRL < 1306135523 132483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: some of it's about the basics; arithmetic, recursion, OO concepts (the Java version thereof), etc < 1306135548 345665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we teach recursion before iteration here, which is a little bizarre as Java teaching goes < 1306135572 821434 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds a little dangerous. < 1306135595 787951 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Why on earth would you teach a low-level concept of recursion so early? :-) < 1306135603 426929 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you teach them about microcode and branch prediction too? ;D < 1306135610 97434 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly with recursion (supposedly) being harder to get, and the danger of a stack overflow with long enough loops. < 1306135610 178275 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[asterisk]the low-level < 1306135615 982225 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, well. < 1306135618 846103 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: no way is recursion "harder to get" < 1306135627 624063 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the language with recursion is simpler. < 1306135630 946488 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only people who think that are < 1306135639 519050 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- people who haven't coded in a functional language before < 1306135645 501515 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :if/function calls/arithmetic/etc < 1306135645 606490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: well, many people seem to miss it, especially if taught iteration first < 1306135653 528115 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- students who's problem is terrible teaching, not recursion < 1306135658 132072 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- people who just want to whine :) < 1306135660 907179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you see the number of ways people mess up for loops, you can see that iteration can be just as tricky < 1306135671 113889 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, iteration is just a lower-level way of expressing the same thing. < 1306135672 379839 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, worse than off-by-one errors? < 1306135683 517841 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm being a snarky FP douchebag here; higher-order combinators are where it's at. < 1306135687 490728 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why recurse when you can unfold? < 1306135717 764700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :higher-order combinators are really nasty to write in Java (although possible) < 1306135728 151425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I wrote a couple of higher-order functions in C recently < 1306135739 967506 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :When's Java 8 going to be out anyways. < 1306135746 219756 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambda expressions would be really useful. < 1306135751 523274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were a mess of casts as they had one of those infinite types that Haskell dislikes < 1306135774 556546 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: it's available from your local Consider The Bad Life Choices You Have Made That Have Resulted In You Programming Java store. < 1306135791 16144 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :=p < 1306135793 268755 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest Existential Crisis Two Point Oh as a useful program to go with it. < 1306135821 391601 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope Java 8's out by the time I get any kind of (Java) programming job. < 1306135843 828655 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: You think they'll upgrade their infrastructure that quickly? < 1306135845 829372 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, what language do you prefer? < 1306135848 790296 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are shops still on one-point-four. < 1306135859 579243 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.what < 1306135868 583414 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java onepointfour, shut up, my number keys are broken. < 1306135875 507989 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott_, what language do you prefer? < 1306135876 411802 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not Java < 1306135881 573627 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see. < 1306135899 250072 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm usually a Haskell weenie :P < 1306135913 42911 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1306135924 622931 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need to get around to doing something serious with that. < 1306135941 616900 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can be more serious than SHIRO?????? < 1306135976 183743 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly. < 1306135976 580826 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1306135986 631103 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: Shiro, the best Funge-9eight interpreter this side of reality/ < 1306135990 970023 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Written in HASKELL < 1306135995 994116 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THOUSANDS OF LINES OF VERY SERIOUS HASKELL < 1306135998 859240 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1306136020 910199 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totals grouped by language (dominant language first): < 1306136021 276267 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell: 1264 (100.00%) < 1306136021 485241 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1306136025 186146 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I distinctly recall it being longer. < 1306136033 236795 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... does that actually include all of my fingerprints? < 1306136040 253288 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... that's really tiny. < 1306136067 383137 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how your average Java shop would react to code with more functional stuff than otherwise, or clojure.jar < 1306136081 360921 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :insert vague anti-clojure sentiment < 1306136093 895876 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's probably better than scala :) < 1306136098 727446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: that seems a remarkably general objection < 1306136105 286347 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reaction or language? < 1306136106 982010 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1306136111 224014 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language :P < 1306136117 798906 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what, clojure? < 1306136131 355360 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a general objection to PHP too, general-anti-language-objections aren't uncommon < 1306136136 513221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: yes, I mentally inserted a vague anti-clojure sentiment, then replied to it < 1306136139 788233 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although my dislike of Clojure is too mild for me really to care < 1306136140 646860 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh < 1306136218 719346 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1306136242 265499 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am really enjoying Perl these days. < 1306136242 756763 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p: < 1306136255 831418 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I too am thoroughly enjoying being deranged. < 1306136257 542124 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1306136269 78188 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :..yes, it's kind of like that. < 1306136270 338170 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't mock Perl, it's like stealing the disabled parking space :( < 1306136278 438291 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only God judges you for it. < 1306136284 589944 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, people. But mainly God. < 1306136286 278720 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to be kind of crazy to enjoy Perl. < 1306136303 494606 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like perl in that it's hilarious < 1306136307 837276 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really it's quite nice. I decided to learn it a few weeks ago by doing a bunch of random projects with it, and so far it's been amazing. < 1306136312 923480 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun but nightmarish < 1306136314 926978 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is useful for golf < 1306136331 213609 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :And string processing. < 1306136331 571713 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: indeed, I too sometimes take copious amounts of drugs and end up intoxicated for several weeks in a haze of insanity. < 1306136333 57736 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :But mostly golf. < 1306136334 913343 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disclaimer: This is not actually the case. < 1306136361 833730 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess from a language design standpoint it's pretty bad, but... it's so good at what it does. < 1306136382 279978 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I will force you to use BASIC. < 1306136390 888032 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: I like QBASIC. It makes me happy. < 1306136401 566475 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basic of the Visual type. < 1306136460 237396 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :..but I've noticed since using Perl I've started using regex for almost every string processing task ever. < 1306136511 362873 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I guess isn't really a bad thing. It's only bad when I have to use something other than Perl, I guess. < 1306136512 576021 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: And how many problems do you have now? < 1306136530 580683 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: none? regex is pretty easy. < 1306136553 334557 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Nonsense, they've clearly doubled. < 1306136559 821215 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...haha. < 1306136563 260672 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. :P < 1306136585 520769 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to assume you haven't seen the famous quote then. < 1306136594 642459 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who suck at reading and using regex just complain when other people use regex to do amazing things. < 1306136601 87831 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I have, I just posit that it is wrong. < 1306136627 912611 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can read, understand, and write advanced regexps perfectly well; that doesn't mean I don't think they're not a completely awkward syntax for all but the most simple of expressions. < 1306136675 423956 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :With regexes being a part of Perl's syntax, couldn't you just break down the regex into components? < 1306136697 433970 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean... some kind of... abstract... syntax... tree? < 1306136762 166557 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but for most simple tasks regex beats alternatives. And really in #esolang you can't complain about awkward syntax. :D < 1306136776 391766 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you may be confused as to what channel this is. < 1306136786 696920 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh hey, I am. :P < 1306136792 253279 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I don't do my programming in /// for a reason, so mentioning the channel name is silly :P < 1306136801 311277 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/#esolang/#esoteric/ < 1306136812 633448 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem solved. < 1306136833 246245 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're lucky # isn't a metacharacter (unless the x flag is on). < 1306136839 435262 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: well yes, it would be silly to think that regex is a programming language. < 1306136844 631340 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: it is. < 1306136848 503772 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: if it were I would have escaped it. < 1306136861 18228 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It /is/, though, it's an embedded domain-specific language. < 1306136867 619866 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a really poor syntax. < 1306136882 56199 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl six is redesigning the syntax for a reason. < 1306136920 488090 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: technically correct, sure. But it's not turing complete unless you're in Perl. I was referring to turing complete programming languages. You know, the ones that most people think of when they hear the phrase programming language. < 1306136937 844596 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, perl regexps are tc. < 1306136945 174681 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yes, that's what I said. < 1306137015 633458 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though isn't it only because of the @{[]} feature? I guess that's technically not part of the regex syntax, but just perl string interpolation, actually. < 1306137027 902499 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a more explicit perl embedding thing. < 1306137031 762235 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(??{...}) I think. ais523 knows. < 1306137037 895480 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yes that's what I was thinking of. < 1306137046 610465 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's still pretty powerful even without that < 1306137057 435670 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? is delayed execution of Perl code. Makes it possible to do recursive patterns. < 1306137057 536718 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : is delayed execution of Perl code. Makes it possible to do recursive patterns. < 1306137059 74576 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can do parenthesis matching, aNbN, etc. < 1306137065 8918 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??x < 1306137067 153830 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? x < 1306137067 235923 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : x < 1306137069 973722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :embedded Perl is actually (?{...}) < 1306137083 648405 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: also lets you write a debugger < 1306137086 858191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(??{...}) instead embeds Perl, then interprets the result as a regex, so it was mostly used for recursion < 1306137090 698426 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://perl.plover.com/Rx/paper/ < 1306137092 557393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but (?R) is the usual way to do that nowadays < 1306137110 672837 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh really? not familiar with that option. < 1306137124 166077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursion by itself isn't enough to make regex TC, though, I think < 1306137131 165478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's no way to do the storage required < 1306137155 440265 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I don't see how you could model a Turing machine with regex. < 1306137248 115653 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :one problem I would think is that it has a limited means of output. Usually a success or failure, or with s/// a substitution count. < 1306137259 978681 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output is irrelevant < 1306137267 982593 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but memory would also be a problem < 1306137271 600265 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeated regexp is tc obviously < 1306137274 216246 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can do bct < 1306137313 159532 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, I don't know what that acronym stands for. < 1306137327 10998 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see wiki < 1306137329 186602 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(esowiki) < 1306137424 968062 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitwise cyclic tag? sometimes I memorise catchy acronyms and I guess that's one of them < 1306137433 326224 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1306137458 731185 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I think we have different definitions of obvious.. < 1306137470 564172 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it obvious? < 1306137475 513001 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regexps can trivially do single steps of bct < 1306137480 700579 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeating it equates to running a bct program < 1306137481 712158 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q.E.D. < 1306137496 168054 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do = with s/// on the combined program<>data string < 1306137589 39218 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you repeat it within the regex? < 1306137600 21295 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?????? < 1306137606 209834 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeated regexp as in regexp in a for(;;) loop. < 1306137631 705762 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that imply that Perl regex as a language is Turing complete, if you're using a for loop? < 1306137644 808934 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1306137647 969498 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it implies repeated regexp is < 1306137654 158042 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please look at the actual claims i'm making < 1306137720 398733 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. you did indeed say "repeated regex", though at the time I thought that meant something completely different. < 1306137771 618694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306138009 820379 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we're not even talking about the turing completeness of regex anymore. derailed. < 1306138055 946463 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1306138088 72354 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1306138177 624575 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly this calls for more beer. < 1306138603 246835 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1306139549 206600 :ralc!~ralc@79.142.230.243.static.knet.bolignet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1306140616 386735 :Phantom_Hoover!522eeddf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.46.237.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306140619 181756 :Phantom_Hoover!522eeddf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.46.237.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:27:12: ;;;;DDDD < 1306140619 301448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 6 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1306140628 204114 :Phantom_Hoover!522eeddf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.46.237.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT LOOKS SUSPICIOUSLY LIKE FAT VRISKA < 1306140841 544208 :Phantom_Hoover!522eeddf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.46.237.223 QUIT :Client Quit < 1306140858 129589 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so glad ph came to dispense his wisdom < 1306141730 169686 :Tritonio!~TrT@Phedra.cti.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1306143653 220473 :Phantom_Hoover!522eeddf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.46.237.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306145600 384757 :comex!comex@c-67-188-10-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1306146519 971820 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1306146520 93084 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1306146520 93293 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1306146717 61242 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1306146717 474177 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1306147513 557574 :comex!comex@c-98-210-197-113.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306148130 710379 :Phantom_Hoover!522eeddf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.46.237.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:03:34: I don't think the wiki has nearly enough traffic to keep it turning over at a decent rate were it democratic, though < 1306148156 90954 :Phantom_Hoover!522eeddf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.46.237.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly we should just select an esolang here with the RationalWiki Method Of Deciding Things. < 1306148857 728248 :Phantom_Hoover!522eeddf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.46.237.223 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1306148861 167336 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306148929 941049 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mac-fail of the day: the only replacement for hte shitty terminal app is even shittier < 1306149910 55242 :ralc!~ralc@79.142.230.243.static.knet.bolignet.dk QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1306150937 374221 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306151134 53273 :Maxdamantus!~Maxdamant@203-97-238-106.cable.telstraclear.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306151176 597371 :Maxdamantus!~Maxdamant@203-97-238-106.cable.telstraclear.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jw, has anyone made an interesting VM of some sort in brainfuck or similar? < 1306151190 395411 :Maxdamantus!~Maxdamant@203-97-238-106.cable.telstraclear.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one that lets you program in a non-BF manner) < 1306151243 187824 :Maxdamantus!~Maxdamant@203-97-238-106.cable.telstraclear.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(eg, by allocating objects and storing values in them, where a value would be some sort of integer or pointer to object) < 1306151253 654900 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1306151256 614653 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have written interpreters. < 1306151262 912079 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vms are just interpreters of a bytecode :) < 1306151271 213052 :Maxdamantus!~Maxdamant@203-97-238-106.cable.telstraclear.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and where allocation of objects will be unrestricted, thus making it turing complete) < 1306151347 118910 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, again, that's just a specific type of interpreter :) < 1306151354 6216 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are certainly interpreters of tc languages in bf < 1306151396 19905 :Maxdamantus!~Maxdamant@203-97-238-106.cable.telstraclear.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of an example? < 1306151513 389458 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://esolangs.org/wiki/EsoInterpreters < 1306151529 19731 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm there's a surprising lack there < 1306151532 491527 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1306151535 243215 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know they exist, but evidently not on that page :) < 1306151546 613534 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bct one still counts though < 1306151562 304006 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also see http://esoteric.sange.fi/brainfuck/bf-source/prog/ < 1306151565 964308 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1306151572 997223 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :game of life counts if it's infinite < 1306151580 858408 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :utm.b does obviously < 1306151585 382055 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being a universal turing machine < 1306151587 594872 :Maxdamantus!~Maxdamant@203-97-238-106.cable.telstraclear.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1306151604 899618 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ofc there is the dbfi self-interpreter :-) < 1306151818 733652 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is MSPA Wiki so slow < 1306151846 17485 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's my comp < 1306151857 641099 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just having troubl with the pages for some reason < 1306151863 834790 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ads probably. < 1306151866 787765 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're terrible < 1306151957 54156 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1306152422 293618 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306152722 754453 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306152747 498618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1306152822 470906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads some Coding Horror to restore his hate in humanity. < 1306152939 577589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That was the day I officially stopped caring what version Chrome is." < 1306152940 929661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atwood just < 1306152942 406104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just shut up < 1306154026 227843 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-49-114.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1306154095 154502 :Slereah!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-21-206.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1306155534 516257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306155535 813222 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306155924 892862 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the writer of coding horror or the people's work who get featured on it restore your hate? < 1306156078 212646 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you understand what coding horror is < 1306156084 951463 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it has nothing to do with coding horrors and is nothing like the daily wtf or anything) < 1306156096 584952 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's jeff atwood's personal insult to intelligence and humanity and, also, matter < 1306156101 250205 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. it is so bad it discredits matter. < 1306156588 35442 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1306156790 45282 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1306157161 313449 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1306157161 570579 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1306157161 653865 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1306157384 85515 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1306157558 318043 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1306157847 385248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306157882 559735 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1306157944 135382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1306157973 308425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, I still have that headache from a particularly bad answer to a question < 1306158030 993581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the gist of what happened: the question had two functions, each of which just did arithmetic on their argument and returned the result < 1306158050 152061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were identical except that one took an int as an argument, and the other took a double < 1306158065 30607 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was one of those questions that tests whether people know the difference between integer and floatingpoint division) < 1306158078 421062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the question asked "do these functions return the same result?" < 1306158086 942783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most students answered "yes" or "no" ("no" was correct) < 1306158106 36261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this student, however, copied the question, then wrote two more functions with the same names as the first two < 1306158116 571830 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1306158127 809355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first of the new ones had the same semantics as the first in the question, just rearranged < 1306158128 555742 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did those functions do? < 1306158150 247942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second was identical to the first new one, except there was an extra multiplication by 2 (or rather, an existing constant was doubled) < 1306158166 968265 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaa < 1306158188 566969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the answer was along the lines of, "the first function returns the same result because I just rearranged it, the second one doesn't because it's double" < 1306158202 850964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my head is still hurting < 1306158262 238721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, I think the shock killed elliott_ too < 1306158287 740496 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1306158311 257561 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to track them down and have a breakdown while screaming "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY". < 1306158313 291392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're alive! < 1306158316 685421 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only barely < 1306158330 599053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pity any logreaders who stumble across this < 1306158382 481526 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1306158384 488410 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should censor it < 1306158421 298459 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1306158529 509979 :Tritonio!~TrT@Phedra.cti.gr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1306158673 621521 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1306158876 217085 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306159252 41390 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: niiiice < 1306159350 946319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think it broke cheater__ too < 1306159978 490874 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1306159978 609955 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1306159978 610106 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1306160100 38170 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: still here < 1306160104 179454 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but limping < 1306160109 425782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ouch < 1306160181 878525 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1306160182 590487 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1306160326 293597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, which reminds me, was there any reaction from the person advertising the rapture as to why he isn't in heaven yet? < 1306160450 624721 :ineiros!~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1306160459 609509 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-225.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306160581 891731 :ineiros!~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1306160597 159925 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1306161952 379496 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no idea, but you should find out, it sounds interesting < 1306161960 637856 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306162153 323955 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1306162755 889619 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1306162786 480388 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1306162786 738206 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1306162786 820003 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1306163036 141132 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306163138 8687 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1306163241 344972 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1306163327 770188 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can it be this windy. < 1306163679 395805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wind: West / Southwest - 20.7 mph < 1306163686 60752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it's even windier in Scotland < 1306163844 893073 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/hhsu8/its_official_i_have_no_life/ < 1306163883 570163 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the way half the comments are pathetic failures at self-aware humour about the fact that the poster is female. < 1306164510 357311 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1306164510 477173 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1306164510 477321 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1306164696 643907 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1306164701 570303 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1306165222 915588 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK so I have had the best idea. < 1306165247 61310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a pen, one end of which has an inked stamp saying "×10". < 1306165258 852322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sell to physicists and engineers; make money. < 1306165269 263187 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PERFECT < 1306165297 861633 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.123 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1306165304 352381 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: We should make one for mathematicians too, although it might be hard to fit "The proof of this is left as an exercise to the reader." on. < 1306165389 170474 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I have the most remarkable proof but this pen is too small.... < 1306165469 64817 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1306165474 680604 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fermat's last biro < 1306165495 703719 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps with the money from these inventions I can make my Ludicrously Rare Things. < 1306165898 672414 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306166534 54116 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1306166647 732958 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@17.45.135.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306166649 263658 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@17.45.135.90 QUIT :Changing host < 1306166649 344684 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1306168314 58686 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1306168817 431700 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1306168982 578918 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1306169448 499475 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306169465 158161 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1306169957 891991 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306170355 291199 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is pleasantly surprised at some of the GNU extensions tcc can handle < 1306170371 526287 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually does GNU's statement expressions. < 1306170423 503397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite easy, isn't it, though? < 1306170439 406288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :statement/expression distinctions aren't really necessary for a language < 1306170440 723777 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1306170452 494177 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, *but* it's not exactly something you expect a minimal C compiler to do. < 1306170754 474703 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306171341 240471 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1306171408 64831 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people ask me questions such as "Practicing writing shitty programs with shitty tools originally intended as jokes and only actually implemented because computer geeks have no sense of humor? ... why would you want to practice that? "? < 1306171469 520812 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-49-114.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1306171488 763275 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't half the point of esolangs that they're fun to fuck around with? < 1306171522 408570 :Slereah!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-108-245.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1306171555 276720 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, I think so < 1306171677 684804 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I write shitty TeX program? < 1306171685 270137 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/p/24383/254898.aspx#254898 < 1306172024 396283 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now what you *you* think?????????????????????????????? < 1306172159 378711 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-krrbexlvybhrlyva QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306172363 17543 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.109 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1306172412 311359 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306172819 891868 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdfqasdfqasdfqasdfqasdfQASDFAFQASFQWQSDFQASFDSDWQASFQ < 1306172880 94567 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: What do you mean by that? < 1306172941 691256 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1306172943 176114 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats my question < 1306173162 236061 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what is happening here? http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/img_14/desktopdesktop.png < 1306173173 32084 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: not my computer) < 1306173192 280609 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows. < 1306173228 235038 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: Yes that is one part of it. < 1306173265 97611 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps the user installed Microsoft Office? I mean, offices typically have lots of desks... < 1306173370 28306 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened is that zzo38 a desk < 1306173372 566885 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then he a top < 1306173376 897820 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :R.I.P. < 1306173419 916197 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god has elliott_'s radiant smoothness claimed another life, < 1306173434 749310 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.109 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1306173479 956010 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306173503 696744 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many hands am I holding up in 5 seconds from now? < 1306173511 437217 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :swezsolp][; < 1306173511 549303 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'/\ < 1306173528 427926 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! Count! < 1306173550 675155 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words < 1306173569 103047 :cheater__!~cheater@89.204.153.109 QUIT :Client Quit < 1306173580 311564 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, was the IRC channel the idiot mentioned #esoteric? < 1306173672 28341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, no. < 1306173711 445195 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :">Most people that use it use LaTeX (or XePDFeLaTeX or whatever) < 1306173711 526446 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... obviously most people use thing nobody except open source freaks have ever heard of." < 1306173711 998879 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1306173714 891423 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy cant actually read can he < 1306173732 708981 :cal153!~cal@70.36.237.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306173739 599433 :cal153!~cal@70.36.237.178 QUIT :Client Quit < 1306173750 88503 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has soiled the good image of the pangolin. < 1306173814 70792 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suggest we gang up on him. < 1306173845 111135 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being stupid is its own punishment < 1306173851 483375 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe the punishment isnt harsh enough < 1306173856 692089 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1306173879 371706 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't feel I "know" any languages. JavaScript has been my bread and butter for like 6 years now, and I still learn new things about it." < 1306173886 621915 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :— pangolin despoiler. < 1306174132 77208 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They didn't mention any IRC channel, but was refering to the mention of +TEXNICARD < 1306174679 999498 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306174790 898601 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1306175122 790849 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xymvifizrrbkdwjg JOIN :#esoteric < 1306175327 62462 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306175501 999445 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All he [SpectateSwamp]rebukes with is something about us being perfect-perfects and that UNIX somehow prevents "the common people" from sharing knowledge. < 1306175583 656591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mentioned SpectateSwamp in here? < 1306175585 822194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dare you! < 1306175621 251862 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SpectateSwamp? < 1306175636 65626 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to have aroused EMOTIONS in ais, so it must be IMPORTANT. < 1306175896 746282 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I have mentioned that UNIX already has enough things (you might add a few more minor things) to do most of the stuff needed that you do not need SSDS (a badly designed program anyways). He has claimed the "random" feature is important for viewing photographs in a 5000+ family photo album. In Linux try this: display `ls | shuf | head -1` < 1306175955 497433 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, I guess, shuf -n1 < 1306175957 675189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: seriously, you don't want to know < 1306175970 631791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: try not to take SpectateSwamp seriously < 1306175975 666159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he might believe what he's saying, but most people don't < 1306176000 519221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rebutting his points is kind-of pointless, as he mostly won't care and everyone else can see the problems with them already < 1306176047 618287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if you're really curious, I imagine you can discover all you need to know via Google, although I admit I haven't actually tried < 1306176093 529082 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Googlehit #4 (for me, anyway): "Download Spectate Swamp Search full keygen crack serial patch" < 1306176120 153459 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly this: display `shuf -en1 *.jpg` < 1306176168 715683 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name sounds eerily familiar, but I can't recall any details. (Maybe a coping mechanism of some sort?) < 1306176226 348004 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: A keygen or crack is not necessary, it is open source (public domain), although he failed to package it correctly, even when told how to do so. < 1306176302 250796 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306176328 667754 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He seems to be involved in desktop searching? < 1306176345 404944 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, one of the first results is "Is SpectateSwamp a real person?" < 1306176378 285517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: SSDS isn't exactly... a typical desktop search program < 1306176396 834774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it involves video cameras < 1306176414 700172 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thestupidestmanonearth.com/ < 1306176435 474845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an unfortunate domain name < 1306176458 977408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably not true, given that there are probably about 2.5 billion men, and it's unlikely that the very stupidest would be known < 1306176464 885725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, he's a UFO conspiracy theorist. < 1306177246 604294 :TOGoS!~Stevens@h69-128-42-2.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306178413 887308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the way he calls a leaf an artifact. < 1306178421 625524 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*artefact < 1306178485 963028 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1306178641 659271 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats a magi < 1306178642 176053 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c < 1306178707 404078 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1306178777 513394 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : how dare you! <-- How very unlike your usual safe < 1306178780 767988 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1306178781 719189 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :self* < 1306178794 48689 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird typo < 1306178827 827677 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unconscious wisdom < 1306178831 527382 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wesrdtfyguhijokplo[p;]' < 1306178832 526447 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1306178839 852329 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523's self plays it safe < 1306178841 691677 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : it involves video cameras <-- eh? < 1306178851 614976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I said earlier that you didn't wnat to know < 1306178853 575972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was serious < 1306178862 729011 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, conspiracy theory? < 1306178878 235831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even without a conspiracy theory < 1306178898 742598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, why a desktop search program would involve video cameras < 1306178922 907741 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so it is just an utterly stupid idea? < 1306178936 704560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much < 1306178941 779123 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1306178958 386766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the exam answer I discussed in here earlier probably beats it < 1306178960 350687 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, but no I can't think of a reason for video cameras unless you search by body gestures < 1306178960 637665 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it might, if it searched your _physical_ desktop < 1306178968 157071 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1306178973 768401 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be useful < 1306178987 886418 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : although the exam answer I discussed in here earlier probably beats it <-- I missed this, tell me < 1306179046 739778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://pastie.org/pastes/1961483/text?key=xlk9mmy5zajpdmfwtp2fza < 1306179048 256931 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm usually a Haskell weenie :P <-- except you whine at haskell for not being dependently typed :) < 1306179053 773714 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*when you < 1306179054 813561 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSSHHHHHHH < 1306179103 924683 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you cycle back to haskell because all the dependent languages are unusable for practical programming, right? < 1306179121 800616 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :great. maximising suddely decided that it is okay to maximise under the top menu bar of gnome < 1306179124 872339 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1306179146 24746 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be due to messy dual screen setup with one screen above the other. Not sure < 1306179199 256390 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: http://pastie.org/pastes/1961483/text?key=xlk9mmy5zajpdmfwtp2fza <--- how... did you phrase that question? < 1306179205 797998 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that could happen < 1306179210 343479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't me who wrote the question < 1306179219 58015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was phrased very straightforwardly < 1306179223 498434 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1306179226 678124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer given didn't fit any remotely sane interpretation of the question < 1306179270 381866 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, failed I guess < 1306179294 769707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't get any marks for that question < 1306179306 200908 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, eh? < 1306179316 739996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only marked one question, and didn't check to see what marks they got for other questions < 1306179318 766725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but am not hopeful < 1306179330 379841 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so someone else marked the other questions? < 1306179334 827177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1306179342 272366 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how comes? < 1306179345 210181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we marked one question each, rather than a portion of the scripts each, to keep things consistent < 1306179350 999325 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1306179357 405947 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :many students? < 1306179361 719937 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : That... that's really tiny. <-- you are surprised that haskell is compact? :P < 1306179379 945194 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well istr it being like three thousand lines before but then i remember that that was with my multiple copies hanging around the place.. < 1306179382 673307 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[asterisk]place... < 1306179385 52082 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1306179388 459725 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what was he commenting about < 1306179390 578719 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see the core thing being a thousand lines < 1306179394 246106 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but including the fingerprints?? < 1306179395 764252 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: shiro < 1306179398 583980 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, ah < 1306179400 761687 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is not much over a thousand lines in total < 1306179404 287616 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :including fingerprints < 1306179405 737700 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, nice < 1306179416 244600 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, so haskell is 9 times as compact as C roughly < 1306179451 162613 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaaaat... I started getting weird colour bleeding along the edge of the scanner bed < 1306179462 648132 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :think flower power style and you are thinking along the right lines < 1306179483 103690 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well cfunge is a bit more optomized. :p < 1306179494 719762 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan to implement a Supah Smart fungespace once I have a bunch of fingerprints down, though. < 1306179508 496467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, then the code will probably grow yes < 1306179512 216206 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, what about TRDS? < 1306179517 817798 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i plan trds < 1306179518 334615 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, also good luck beating CCBI < 1306179532 611625 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i can, i'll even do the windows-only ones (for windows only ofc) < 1306179548 893329 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mvrs might be... uh < 1306179550 91642 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1306179642 42795 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if optomus was ever correct latin < 1306179664 606892 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall seeing some strange vowel changes in those superlatives < 1306179725 272836 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306179733 952390 :ralc!~ralc@79.142.230.243.static.knet.bolignet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1306179823 644742 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"... probably related to ops "power, resources" (in which case the evolution is from "richest" to "the most esteemed") or to ob "in front of," with superlative suffix *-tumos." < 1306179837 303729 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it may very well have been optumus at one point < 1306179946 581894 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know they have this ridiculously complete latin dictionary at the library but that would involve me actually going there < 1306179962 345976 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disapprove. Phantom Hoover 11:02, 23 May 2011 (UTC) < 1306179962 569919 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disapprove to WHAT? You could be a bit more precise. And since many people have written BF derivates, this is a good extension. Also, in general, it is just an esoteric language like "Ook", so nobody has to APPROVE to an esoteric language. If you have CONSTRUCTIVE critique, please let me know and I will think about how to improve this work. Me personally I like the idea that BF can communicate with other processes/computers to work on a doulbe-I/O ("3D" < 1306179962 651790 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :). --87.165.157.233 18:59, 23 May 2011 (UTC) < 1306179969 34400 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone's a bit sensitive about their bf derivative ;D < 1306180011 398328 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MVRS should be relatively easy with your Haskell since you don't have global state < 1306180011 759125 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On the etymology of Latin optumus / optimus and the reflex of PIE " indeed it was < 1306180014 448219 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The extension can be implemented in other Brainfuck derivates like ClearBF (ClearBF with NetFuck extension) < 1306180017 730491 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>clearbf < 1306180019 528255 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow. < 1306180274 743348 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'll have to admit, I'm totally ignorant on this matter, but I was under the impression that a 32-bit application would still need to treat the address space of graphics memory as a 32-bit integer and the runtime is also generally agnostic to exactly where this memory is stored, which means if you have, say, 3Gb of standard memory used up, you actually can only make use of 1Gb of the video card memory, whether it's shader code or what have you." < 1306180281 471783 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: confirm that that's bullcrap? < 1306180287 794322 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i think you should put quote marks around you talk page quotes, my {{unsigned}} reflex triggered a bit there < 1306180291 277207 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*your < 1306180294 972701 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reading thedailywtf's forums because... i'm a masochist i guess < 1306180295 930553 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: meh < 1306180330 731896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: a single process could only access 4GiBytes of memory total without remapping < 1306180335 778420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is quite different from what's written there < 1306180353 643340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shader code would probably be using a different memory map from the main logic of the program, for instance, due to running on a GPU < 1306180369 45731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it was using a software GPU emulation, like the pure-software versions of Mesa < 1306180369 709795 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I like the way the guy thinks that networking consists of a 2-way pipe. < 1306180383 654364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if really necessary, it could spin off a child process to access more memory < 1306180406 314927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Windows XP does genuinely work as described in many versions, but it's to provide an incentive to people to upgrade rather than because it has to work that way < 1306180412 959507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are versions where it does it correctly) < 1306180578 48361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306180723 480057 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does that mean GPU running code always counts as a different process to the CPU running one, or not? < 1306180731 443981 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from < 1306180872 817387 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's not about process, it's about binary image < 1306180905 900519 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 32 bit architecture can only perform jumps to stuff that's a 32-bit pointer away from the base address... or something like that. i barely know asm. < 1306180998 336999 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know _that_ much < 1306181034 226321 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm assuming this is about 32 bit applications running on a 64 bit architecture < 1306181076 69801 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means different processes can map things independently. < 1306181090 114785 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you're confused < 1306181097 807046 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he isn't. < 1306181100 521158 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 32-bit architecture can have more than 4gb ram too < 1306181115 237218 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a pure 32-bit architecture by definition. < 1306181135 631229 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok, but sort of irrelevant here i think < 1306181140 110657 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's someone who's not talking with you elliott < 1306181163 212288 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well the basic idea is the same < 1306181167 473720 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh if the GPU can have a different map, can any thread in the process? < 1306181169 661247 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and there's someone who's nitpicking and wasting everyone's time. < 1306181216 951705 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, i don't think stuff being run on the gpu is seen as a process in windows xp. < 1306181276 468419 :TLUL!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left JOIN :#esoteric < 1306181279 272153 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe, i guess since the gpu is mainly for interacting with video < 1306181313 95157 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nevertheless different process need to share the gpu < 1306181316 692405 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*es < 1306181359 801610 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a different program, yes. but it's not a process. it's just like the firmware in your network card isn't seen as a process. < 1306181380 247412 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty much a separate computer inside your computer. < 1306181398 549136 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it all passes through the kernel < 1306181412 903618 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you define "passes through the kernel"? < 1306181424 506395 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not for xp, no < 1306181441 569664 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kernel isn't scheduling the program on the gpu < 1306181444 544538 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by that i mean user processes don't have permission to run gpu code directly < 1306181455 544540 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i think they do < 1306181479 449216 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott_, I like the way the guy thinks that networking consists of a 2-way pipe. <-- arguably that is the abstraction that is provided by tcp < 1306181483 513787 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never programmed gpus, but i remember reading somewhere that it's a big security flaw. < 1306181489 802211 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case how does the gpu separate code from different processes... ah. < 1306181492 56825 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, a static 2-way pipe. < 1306181498 297563 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which cannot be controlled in any way. < 1306181509 707133 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is simply a static connection between two programs. < 1306181510 973146 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, there isn't "code from different processes" < 1306181515 677122 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, *blink* < 1306181521 599674 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok a big security flaw, i guess that would make sense if the gpu doesn't have a process distinction < 1306181550 157048 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :either you're running shaders, or you're doing 2d stuff through a driver which runs shaders. < 1306181558 517932 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess there's like a global lock. < 1306181564 768638 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think GPUs are multitasking. < 1306181572 315923 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think Windows XP does genuinely work as described in many versions, but it's to provide an incentive to people to upgrade rather than because it has to work that way <-- eh? < 1306181578 95288 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1306181624 232254 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you're asking something similar to "how does the hard drive know which program the file came from, otherwise it can't prevent viruses from replicating" < 1306181706 109229 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me and my brother's character now manage to have not only the same number of experience points, but also the same number of hit points. And the same grapple modifier, and even the same weight. However, most things are different. < 1306181724 858114 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :errr < 1306181727 392806 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :grappling. < 1306181729 199832 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cries < 1306181750 864015 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't grappling rules quite a PITA. < 1306181756 341535 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1306181841 129744 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there was some nice lampshading of that in darths & droids < 1306181891 963580 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the only one in the game that has used grapple so far, I think three times in total so far. < 1306181908 340595 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes indeed < 1306181923 489058 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, i always read that comic book's domain as "darth sand droids" < 1306181925 945157 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno why. < 1306181947 662119 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it makes me think r2d2 + sand people + darth maul < 1306181960 583132 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1306181962 309499 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never made any other melee attacks though. I have used ranged attacks three times, all of them magic, once by accident, and once when I knew it wouldn't hit anyways. < 1306182031 925671 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0232.html < 1306182212 419986 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. Apparently movie theater chains in the US have started running their projectors dim to save on electricity and bulb replacement costs... < 1306182226 224043 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand the reasons for any of this (apparently strange) things? < 1306182253 835208 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... My shitty LCD monitor may well have better video quality than a theater's setup by now. < 1306182301 717795 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0343.html and http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0344.html (including the expanded version) < 1306182345 305135 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my cheap-ass PC speakers definitely have better audio quality. (they tend to have very, very poorly calibrated surround sound, with *notable clipping*) < 1306182407 623260 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, not like that in Sweden < 1306182412 388827 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about light level < 1306182419 265204 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the sound is usually okay < 1306182457 722306 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AMPLIFY THE SUBWOOFER!" seems to be their attitude. < 1306182513 40602 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :movie sound is usually way too loud here, but otherwise ok < 1306182594 317528 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of: with ear plugs I doubt the quality would be the same, and at these sound levels you really should be using ear plugs... < 1306182633 245567 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the pricing is such that it'd be much cheaper to buy the damned DVD, even if you intend to watch it only once ever... < 1306182643 508717 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "AMPLIFY THE SUBWOOFER!" seems to be their attitude. < 1306182652 756863 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh jesus don't get me started on movie volumes. < 1306182700 834330 :TLUL!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left NICK :TLUL|afk < 1306182746 67390 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It really, truly isn't the filmmaker's doing. < 1306182766 138821 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:29:45 elliott_: none? regex is pretty easy. < 1306182766 220529 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:30:07 CakeProphet: Nonsense, they've clearly doubled. < 1306182771 867019 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no contradiction here < 1306182772 636746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yeah "movie" was the wrong choice. < 1306182781 992942 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cinema" is what I meant. < 1306182826 959746 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : true, but for most simple tasks regex beats alternatives. And really in #esolang you can't complain about awkward syntax. :D < 1306182843 734335 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize most esolangs have a completely trivial syntax, parserly speaking < 1306182885 796272 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean a lot of brainfuck implementers don't even bother separating parsing and running... < 1306182948 883437 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsing is probably the most boring part of implementing any language < 1306183004 209089 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parsing Brainfuck is pretty dang trivial, though. < 1306183026 440111 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even hand-writing a recursive descent parser isn't much effort. < 1306183075 501386 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just barely complicated enough not to be regular < 1306183094 247320 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1306183132 678763 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementing brainfuck you barely even need a parser < 1306183159 433764 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/barely/don't/ < 1306183160 888315 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can actually compile it with sed if you don't mind having a trivial compiler. < 1306183170 517753 :TLUL|afk!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left NICK :TLUL < 1306183189 659116 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only really *need* a parser for it if you want to do optimisations. < 1306183201 912147 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(beyond the obvious RLE optimisations and such, that is) < 1306183212 686261 :eduviges!~edubra200@186-184-176-228.genericrev.telcel.net.ve JOIN :#esoteric < 1306183243 849277 :eduviges!~edubra200@186-184-176-228.genericrev.telcel.net.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :holaaaaaaaaaaaaa < 1306183324 378233 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh. < 1306183326 702970 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306183327 173981 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello. < 1306183336 713839 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.ve? < 1306183337 514107 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is about programming, < 1306183357 766923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Venezuela. < 1306183402 816951 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1306183496 96581 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1306183615 74109 :cheater897!~cheater11@ip-80-226-235-232.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :holaaaaaaaaaa eduviges < 1306183636 33891 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :night. < 1306183811 926101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, the more I listen to it the more I am convinced that the Homestuck music is primarily an exercise in combinatorics. < 1306183837 288396 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the songs are either leitmotifs or are recombinations of leitmotifs. < 1306183844 343900 :eduviges!~edubra200@186-184-176-228.genericrev.telcel.net.ve PRIVMSG #esoteric :me puedes hablar español < 1306183882 998479 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're probably going to have a hard time finding anyone who can speak Spanish around here. < 1306183899 916001 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I pity any logreaders who stumble across this < 1306183902 375724 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.228.7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1306183902 883676 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now if it was /Finnish/... < 1306183923 304194 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait he's not here < 1306183931 196345 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wanted to cash in some pity < 1306184074 212873 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What date? < 1306184085 593824 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :date? < 1306184106 205817 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was today. maybe that doesn't count as stumbling... < 1306184147 354107 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if anyone but elliott does random logreading < 1306184254 517803 :TLUL!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left QUIT :Quit: *disappears in a puff of orange smoke* < 1306184293 814749 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: We should make one for mathematicians too, although it might be hard to fit "The proof of this is left as an exercise to the reader." on. < 1306184310 227576 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe an end of proof square... < 1306184322 809634 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm not sure if anyone but elliott does random logreading < 1306184336 702146 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait elliott actually went to bed? < 1306184339 546228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes do when trapped in Ireland with nothing but the hg logs. < 1306184348 538821 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he hasn't slept since yesterday. < 1306184360 531980 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are frequently trapped in ireland, then? < 1306184380 166362 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He seems to have been up all night crying into his keyboard at Sgeo_ reading Homestuck. < 1306184399 999696 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1306184411 455787 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, because my parents have this strange urge to spend time with their family. < 1306184426 420722 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who are all in Ireland because they have no sense. < 1306184452 624404 :eduviges!~edubra200@186-184-176-228.genericrev.telcel.net.ve PART :#esoteric < 1306184486 264716 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adios < 1306184492 304786 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sssssssssssssssssssssssss < 1306184580 549190 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*boom* < 1306185027 819331 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone told me that TeXnicard is a bad program and I am bad at user interface design, because the description on the repository mentions IRC. Like, what? How does mentioning IRC on the repository (not in the program itself!) make it a bad program? < 1306185087 569840 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why do some people come in this channel they try to speak Spanish or whatever and cannot understand the other things? < 1306185277 427164 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the game "End is a Finnish word"? < 1306185428 57464 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but i strongly doubt that end is a finnish word. < 1306185450 316942 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seeing as it's ending in a consonant combination) < 1306185487 613725 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I also doubt it. That isn't the point of the game. You write things on a chalkboard such as "End is a Finnish word", "Boolean is a Andoran word", and so on; they do not have to be correct statements. < 1306185500 169118 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1306185516 546312 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boolean being andorran sounds more likely < 1306185602 734186 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!simpleacro < 1306185611 307341 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​IDOOK < 1306185622 843499 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idook is clearly an eskimo word < 1306185627 609805 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!simpleacro < 1306185632 739379 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​NXL < 1306185644 864651 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nxl must be aztec < 1306185650 16231 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!simpleacro < 1306185655 556755 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​UI < 1306185673 466031 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ui is probably hawaiian < 1306185675 563179 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!simpleacro < 1306185680 727794 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​GISYO < 1306185697 652510 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You seem to not understanding this game < 1306185699 361261 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt you could _get_ more japanese than that < 1306185699 572059 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1306185699 653349 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1306185699 653493 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1306185711 497271 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you are making a different game. < 1306185714 106996 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...which is why i'm making one up < 1306185717 861087 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!simpleacro < 1306185722 913640 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​IQFBS < 1306185735 554794 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What algorithm is used for making up these words? < 1306185743 608962 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show simpleacro < 1306185744 263113 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​haskell import System.Random; import Control.Monad; main = do {len <- pick [2..10]; putStrLn =<< (replicateM len $ pick ['A'..'Z'])} where pick a = randomRIO (0, length a - 1) >>= return . (a !!) < 1306185766 289958 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1306185791 784701 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iqfbs, i got nothing. maybe related to iqbal? < 1306185799 722281 :aune_!~arne@bishibosh.lysator.liu.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1306185868 780827 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1306185870 215432 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read of a bit different algorithm that uses d6 and d20 dice, which I have used to make up the name of my D&D characters; the last time I used it, I came up with the name "BIDAKIQUOOD" < 1306185880 601688 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Int -> [a] -> IO [a] < 1306185880 716468 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude drop :: Int -> [a] -> [a] < 1306185880 855282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude take :: Int -> [a] -> [a] < 1306185880 936618 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List drop :: Int -> [a] -> [a] < 1306185900 662222 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one with dice is also possible to come up with a blank name, with a single letter name, or any length at all. < 1306185907 331989 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like that has a vowel preference < 1306185930 152593 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a cv syllable pattern < 1306185941 383223 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, the algorithm with dice does have a vowel preference. d6 is used to select what kind (consonant, vowel, end), d6 selects vowels, and d20 selects consonants. < 1306185963 375385 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well that haskell code is for acronyms, not names, so pronouncability isn't an issue < 1306186000 259815 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, I guessed, that is what "acro" might be short for < 1306186051 55444 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can see what the code does even though I do not know how to program anything in Haskell at all < 1306186091 421680 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the pick definition above could easily be used to make your version too (in fact it's a little surprising nothing like pick is in the haskell Data.Random library < 1306186094 303081 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1306186097 750967 :Faaizaan!~faaizaan@119.160.126.100 JOIN :#esoteric < 1306186146 272974 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the way the one with dice works, if you roll 6 on the first d6 roll for each letter, is the end of the word, otherwise you continue. < 1306186165 521501 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1306186201 764996 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you roll 6 immediately you get a length 0 word? < 1306186209 131183 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. < 1306186231 850885 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, this algorithm is not a particularly good one, but someone invented it and I still used it to make up the names < 1306186298 775678 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roll 1d6, if 6, stop. If 1 2 3, make a vowel. If 4 5, make consonant. For vowel, 1d6 makes 1=A 2=E 3=I 4=O 5=U 6=Y, for consonant, 1d20 makes all the other letters in alphabetical order 1=B to 20=Z. < 1306186484 615186 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import System.Random; import Control.Monad; pick a = randomRIO (0, length a - 1) >>= return . (a !!); main = putStrLn =<< word; word = join . pick $ replicate 3 (liftM2 (:) vowel word) ++ replicate 2 (liftM2 (:) consonant word) : [return ""]; vowel = pick "AEIOUY"; consonant = pick "BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ" < 1306186510 509898 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1306186646 3990 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import System.Random; import Control.Monad; pick a = randomRIO (0, length a - 1) >>= return . (a !!); main = putStrLn =<< word; word :: IO String; word = join . pick $ replicate 3 (liftM2 (:) vowel word) ++ replicate 2 (liftM2 (:) consonant word) : [return ""]; vowel = pick "AEIOUY"; consonant = pick "BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ" < 1306186666 599465 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1306186683 280459 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import System.Random; import Control.Monad; pick a = randomRIO (0, length a - 1) >>= return . (a !!); main = putStrLn =<< word; word :: IO String; word = join . pick $ replicate 3 (liftM2 (:) vowel word) ++ replicate 2 (liftM2 (:) consonant word) : [return ""]; vowel = pick "AEIOUY"; consonant = pick "BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ" < 1306186760 380318 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell < 1306186762 998126 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1306186777 321220 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import System.Random; import Control.Monad; pick a = randomRIO (0, length a - 1) >>= return . (a !!); main = putStrLn =<< word; word :: IO String; word = join . pick $ replicate 3 (liftM2 (:) vowel word) ++ replicate 2 (liftM2 (:) consonant word) ++ [return ""]; vowel = pick "AEIOUY"; consonant = pick "BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ" < 1306186804 422408 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot seems to be straining < 1306186806 894064 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo hi < 1306186807 702032 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hi < 1306186836 209692 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo hi < 1306186836 912872 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hi < 1306186863 740414 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When typing !haskell by itself I got a DCC CHAT message, when I connected by "nc codu.org 10078" I got ":1:116: Not in scope: `Main.main'" < 1306186880 717637 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if you have any such message? < 1306186893 610109 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have got several, although not for the last one < 1306186899 647781 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have just timed out < 1306186917 72427 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import System.Random; import Control.Monad; pick a = randomRIO (0, length a - 1) >>= return . (a !!); main = putStrLn =<< word; word :: IO String; word = join . pick $ replicate 3 (liftM2 (:) vowel word) ++ replicate 2 (liftM2 (:) consonant word) ++ [return ""]; vowel = pick "AEIOUY"; consonant = pick "BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ" < 1306186921 659127 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​RY < 1306186934 632736 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it must < 1306186945 6128 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also programmed this algorithm in TI-92 calculator as well < 1306186958 396987 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import System.Random; import Control.Monad; pick a = randomRIO (0, length a - 1) >>= return . (a !!); main = putStrLn =<< word; word = join . pick $ replicate 3 (liftM2 (:) vowel word) ++ replicate 2 (liftM2 (:) consonant word) ++ [return ""]; vowel = pick "AEIOUY"; consonant = pick "BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ" < 1306186977 417699 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import System.Random; import Control.Monad; pick a = randomRIO (0, length a - 1) >>= return . (a !!); main = putStrLn =<< word; word :: IO String; word = join . pick $ replicate 3 (liftM2 (:) vowel word) ++ replicate 2 (liftM2 (:) consonant word) ++ [return ""]; vowel = pick "AEIOUY"; consonant = pick "BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ" < 1306186982 3018 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​FI < 1306186990 30165 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: heh, i think i programmed a name generator on my hp-28 once < 1306186993 326041 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import System.Random; import Control.Monad; pick a = randomRIO (0, length a - 1) >>= return . (a !!); main = putStrLn =<< word; word :: IO String; word = join . pick $ replicate 3 (liftM2 (:) vowel word) ++ replicate 2 (liftM2 (:) consonant word) ++ [return ""]; vowel = pick "AEIOUY"; consonant = pick "BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ" < 1306186997 969693 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​YUI < 1306187002 541270 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not the same algorithm < 1306187013 736830 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like it simply times out occasionally < 1306187016 42338 :Faaizaan!~faaizaan@119.160.126.100 QUIT :Quit: Rooms • iPhone IRC Client • http://www.roomsapp.mobi < 1306187017 183025 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you save the program in EgoBot? < 1306187041 184697 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp simplename haskell import System.Random; import Control.Monad; pick a = randomRIO (0, length a - 1) >>= return . (a !!); main = putStrLn =<< word; word = join . pick $ replicate 3 (liftM2 (:) vowel word) ++ replicate 2 (liftM2 (:) consonant word) ++ [return ""]; vowel = pick "AEIOUY"; consonant = pick "BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ" < 1306187042 77247 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter simplename installed. < 1306187047 565871 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!simplename < 1306187052 609307 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​N < 1306187064 508827 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't look very long these names < 1306187094 583283 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes they do get longer, although maybe it is too slow to make longer names I don't know < 1306187098 241995 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!simplename < 1306187103 153646 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​N < 1306187109 981101 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!simplename < 1306187114 932237 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​RORACFZPOEZXYOOUEE < 1306187117 576087 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1306187119 146953 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good name < 1306187123 8773 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? Now it is longer. < 1306187148 896653 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will use that name if I need to make up the next my D&D character. < 1306187156 640991 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems not, i found it unlikely that the timeout was because of the running time anyway ( EgoBot recompiles each time, and that's probably what takes time ) < 1306187195 805974 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you save it, will it still recompile each time? < 1306187205 299710 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1306187246 863278 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot doesn't know the difference between compilers and interpreters < 1306187287 965044 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make it compile only once if put on HackEgo? < 1306187311 33507 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait i realized - it's not timeout, it's just when it generates an empty string < 1306187311 523380 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My current character does psionics and pact magic. I like the "Subjunctive TV" kind of pact magic. < 1306187331 691519 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that is 1/6 to do so < 1306187333 712275 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot makes no output when the program doesn't < 1306187504 46008 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit confusing, maybe change it to check after generating the letter < 1306187519 386858 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, terminate with a period, is another way < 1306187527 145074 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe < 1306187535 355874 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp simplename < 1306187535 871593 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter simplename deleted. < 1306187562 592731 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-225.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1306187567 807451 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp simplename haskell import System.Random; import Control.Monad; pick a = randomRIO (0, length a - 1) >>= return . (a !!); main = putStrLn . (++".") =<< word; word = join . pick $ replicate 3 (liftM2 (:) vowel word) ++ replicate 2 (liftM2 (:) consonant word) ++ [return ""]; vowel = pick "AEIOUY"; consonant = pick "BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ" < 1306187568 366728 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter simplename installed. < 1306187575 371983 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!simplename < 1306187579 783836 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​QGYQKF. < 1306187958 998389 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : It seems to have aroused EMOTIONS in ais, so it must be IMPORTANT. <-- we are doomed, aren't we < 1306188297 707183 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no, worse < 1306188360 400861 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, we are facing an imminent invasion of wind-blown leaves, it appears. < 1306188376 856023 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1306188396 486793 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that would be even worse than the ash < 1306188415 176931 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine what this would do to aircrafts < 1306188416 76825 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we just had the rapture, so a little general destruction is to be expected < 1306188424 845667 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, ah, the clouds are in on it too. < 1306188447 106902 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, indeed. The situation looks dire to say the least. < 1306188480 913721 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-166-118.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306188650 869489 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-163-216.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1306188666 976129 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the video artifacts. < 1306189305 527050 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1306189429 281232 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading a book about shogi once, most things written there are reasonable, except that one sentence ended with "and softee, softee catchee monkey." and it didn't match the rest of that sentence. < 1306189519 969184 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like some wikipedia vandalism < 1306189545 357955 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-4-63.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1306189554 340057 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some Wikipedia vandalism has like that, but this was a book < 1306189580 279863 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1306189629 223887 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it is a wikibook. < 1306189653 753847 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is a normal book by one author. < 1306190392 198198 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdfhashdflaksdfajdfh stupid wikia < 1306190431 81677 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sorry is there any other adjective that can precede 'Wikia'? < 1306190441 402271 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :"retarded" < 1306190562 158929 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP_lZaOchE0 < 1306190567 406617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god I must try this. < 1306190575 846127 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goddamn sixth-years. < 1306191174 680557 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1306191773 549450 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Quit: Wedding rings are the world's smallest handcuffs. < 1306192081 478522 :TOGoS!~Stevens@h69-128-42-2.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net PART :#esoteric < 1306192645 272195 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5_9z1TxUfg < 1306192650 274567 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god these people are nuts. < 1306193559 485404 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1306194442 848263 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-4-63.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1306194725 736052 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-4-63.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds