< 1305849604 638671 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-67-168-4-63.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305849617 582995 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1305849811 347426 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-4-63.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1305849924 670072 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-67-168-4-63.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1305851846 193171 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-4-63.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305851931 530258 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1305852066 400073 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305852128 531705 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh searching for I II III IIII IVI IIIVII IIIIIVIII gives only 3 google hits and one is to #esoteric logs < 1305852151 769752 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two others are in french < 1305852227 591716 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: X-D < 1305852232 889607 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate? < 1305852276 269567 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if i search for I II III IIV IIIIV instead i get two relevant references, one which links to the other, which is mistyped and by conway < 1305852307 674231 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where he claims that there is a constant for it, with low algebraic degree < 1305852339 197807 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think it's tc? < 1305852356 409368 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also, contact conway ;D < 1305852371 349125 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1305852371 625174 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it seems unlikely if it has a matrix to predict its growth < 1305852388 626482 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Conway know about Gemini? < 1305852400 915321 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is gemini? < 1305852412 507436 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stares at oerjan
< 1305852433 864747 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/index.php?title=Gemini < 1305852448 620531 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spaceship that moves by self-replication < 1305852483 582531 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also moves obliquely < 1305852486 863263 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that one < 1305852490 239220 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(word taken from life wiki) < 1305852522 418034 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: the word conway does _not_ trigger gol as its first association in my mind < 1305852537 614119 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1305852540 995616 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means gemini is a couple steps too far < 1305852589 289476 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-90-188.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1305852589 371205 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-90-188.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1305852589 371293 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1305852615 998058 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i clicked conways wp talk page < 1305852619 530713 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read "John has indeed been married three times. First wife Eileen, second wife Larissa, third wife Diana. His son Alex was born in 1983, and Oliver in 1988, to answer the below question." < 1305852622 78568 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought "whoa creepy" < 1305852624 527912 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :next line < 1305852625 851836 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Diana Conway 24.225.176.66 03:58, 22 November 2006 (UTC)" < 1305852811 119085 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1305852826 151032 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION had forgotten that #esoteric discussion from last year
< 1305852832 837641 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which discussion < 1305852846 454421 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :about roman numeral look and say < 1305852854 73690 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2010-06-20.txt < 1305852860 402277 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr having one of those < 1305852873 629376 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man ksf was an idiot even back then < 1305852879 681396 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't i remember him so i could have ignored him sooner when he came here < 1305852883 722032 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some discussion but maybe mostly me monologuing < 1305852899 573868 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's a discussion for us :) < 1305852908 984353 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.229.248 NICK :fpa < 1305852911 766579 :fpa!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i'm holding this nick hostage < 1305852913 698779 :fpa!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by registering it) < 1305852955 601269 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weird thing is i'm saying things on that page which i distinctly recall rederiving in the past week or two :D < 1305853091 397455 :fpa!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1305853093 602464 :fpa!~elliott@95.149.229.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a sign of senility < 1305853096 539433 :fpa!~elliott@95.149.229.248 NICK :elliott < 1305853107 322488 :elliott!~elliott@95.149.229.248 QUIT :Changing host < 1305853107 404846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1305853860 705350 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1305854052 60068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:17:08: ooh, i got a _really_ stupid idea! < 1305854052 363671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:17:29: wow this will be retarded. < 1305854052 445158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:20:03: wow i'm like the genius of retarded. < 1305854624 187084 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305855634 341393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Does Mycology test IMAP? < 1305855723 174310 :augur!~augur@pool-173-73-127-76.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305855833 225926 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db41f36.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305858960 171035 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1305858962 447009 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1305858977 17339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1305859016 886585 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brother brought a stm32 evaluation board from work and I'm trying to figure if it's possible to use it as a target platform for a demoscene demo < 1305859056 859422 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(arm cortex-m3 microcontroller board) < 1305859057 529481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything's a viable platform for a demo < 1305859062 452116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jacquard loom? totally. < 1305859072 454169 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1305859096 981254 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to figure if it's possible to get VGA or NTSC output < 1305859115 930351 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind of stuff that will look cool on a projector < 1305859174 585445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, ASCII should be enough for anyone < 1305859225 501634 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the board's display is 16x2 ascii < 1305859301 216338 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus a row of 16 LEDs < 1305859312 265500 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1305859394 835532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :light show + ascii art problem solved < 1305859429 88751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus CHRIST this code is ugly < 1305859450 834225 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahem yeah right < 1305859479 789603 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :more likely I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to get either the right sequence of bits out of one of the series port < 1305859482 98034 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1305859490 97051 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get NTSC < 1305859492 279852 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :colors < 1305859504 191041 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it probably has the wrong clock rate for that) < 1305859504 774937 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305859512 427933 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or alternatively < 1305859520 304658 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a bunch of pins and output VGA < 1305859593 759397 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-248-109.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305859628 263949 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db41f36.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1305859628 370963 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1305859635 373526 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that thing runs at like 80mips < 1305859645 772285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a lot of instructins < 1305859648 780069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instructions < 1305859658 347914 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1305859662 440988 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :72 mhz cut down ARM < 1305859757 97105 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the board has a sound output < 1305859765 658233 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which pretty much solves sound from the outset < 1305859777 229640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use some of the bits of the sound port for video output :D < 1305859778 256887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of, even < 1305859806 25994 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the sound is done with PWM < 1305859832 886389 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1305859841 933341 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus probably doesn't run at the ridiculous speeds you need for video (6mhz) < 1305859891 287161 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db42f41.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305859939 371416 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :12.6mhz = 320x400 or 320x480 VGA video pixel rate < 1305859973 92496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs that kinda resolution < 1305859975 239446 :augur!~augur@pool-173-73-127-76.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305859982 290843 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1305859992 356673 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :VGA has a minimum line rate :( < 1305859999 837876 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: There's no real requirement for that to be analog. < 1305860027 775730 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, it's not going to be doing color unless it's NTSC, but hey. < 1305860030 797856 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the horiz rate isn't at least 30khz I'm pretty sure the projector won't show it < 1305860069 55842 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NTSC has a kinda more gentle rate of ~16khz < 1305860080 880223 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its color encoding scheme is crazy < 1305860111 972646 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can fake it with black and white output. < 1305860135 914376 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, crazy color encoding isn't unique to NTSC. < 1305860159 71390 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this board has the right clock rate to easily simulate ntsc colors unfortunately < 1305860166 614992 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the color analog TV standards do a form of analog QAM encoded into the signal. < 1305860175 418296 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is approximately "fucking crazy". < 1305860177 298177 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: right < 1305860214 940837 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a 72 MHz ARM. Surely you can clock a digital output line at a reasonably fast rate with that sort of CPU. < 1305860223 837745 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to VGA's "put the right voltages on the R, G, B, Hsync, Vsync" pins < 1305860271 898757 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah. Aparently the SPI ports run at "18Mhz max" < 1305860293 930191 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plenty speedy for NTSC video. < 1305860302 145677 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah < 1305860317 924513 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And psuedocolor. < 1305860321 604201 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't line up with the NTSC color carrier freq tho < 1305860389 447697 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would probably produce weird rainbow shifts across the screen < 1305860422 591391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds pretty < 1305860501 71442 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if it was a 800mips processor you could probably just render in 32bpp and translate into bit patterns at the end < 1305860517 583224 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's more like ~80mips so dunno < 1305860523 502574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mentally files "Landon Stewart" under "idiot".
< 1305860546 759225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: how much faster is it than a commodore sixtyfour? :P < 1305860574 761739 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 times probably < 1305860646 59540 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, if you got an NTSC color burst that matched your used color carrier, it'd work just fine on common displays. < 1305860658 742220 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not work for broadcasting, but oh well. < 1305860687 295704 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how ntsc TVs implement color burst and how they react to frequency variation < 1305860724 345016 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have a burst every line then that locks the rate somewhat yeah < 1305860741 288674 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a lot of computers and consoles in the 70s and 80s did something similar. < 1305860765 951642 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305860785 586112 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik NESes and AMIGAs have clock rates chosen specifically around the ntsc color carier < 1305860794 423403 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you could get analog black and white out, you could use the CGA trick. < 1305860804 10554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: csixtyfour too < 1305860809 719000 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the CGA trick is the same thing < 1305860810 100270 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, never mind. < 1305860826 576730 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CGA trick is just two-level output, but based on the color carrier. < 1305860850 607947 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :still gets you 16 colors < 1305860859 550055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq_ < 1305860860 366209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiro < 1305860869 103522 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think you need to output at a specific clock rate for that < 1305860896 651554 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rational multiplier of the color carrier. < 1305860930 834152 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Within a certain range, I'd imagine. < 1305860989 855171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Functor m) arising from a use of `<$>' < 1305860990 18619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (MonadShiro m) < 1305860991 366351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fucking hell < 1305861034 324978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Applicative (MaybeT Shiro)) < 1305861034 597017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from the superclasses of an instance declaration < 1305861034 678015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :asfdgh < 1305861043 30751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?src Applicative < 1305861043 114613 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Functor f => Applicative f where < 1305861043 114785 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : pure :: a -> f a < 1305861043 114902 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (<*>) :: f (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1305861165 711407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow ok this is a huge pain in the ass < 1305861437 531192 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: this arm thing seems to run at speeds that are various multiples of 6mhz < 1305861467 238054 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :72mhz, 48mhz, 36mhz, 24mhz, 12mhz specifically mentioned in the datasheets < 1305861477 852956 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Guess you're not getting sane color, then. < 1305861491 367002 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1305861500 289490 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you've got a *few* such outputs, in which case you could probably do VGA or NTSC component. < 1305861549 716480 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a lot of the chip's pins can be reassigned as general purpose IOs < 1305861582 690311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?undo do { r <- liftShiro ((Just <$> io m) `catchShiro` \(e::IOException) -> return Nothing); MaybeT (return r) } < 1305861582 771962 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse error in pattern at "->" (column 71) < 1305861584 992152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1305861594 42685 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which might be able to get me 15bpp VGA color... but the cpu power requirements for that are probably kinda stiff < 1305861595 860377 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka "60000/1001 Hz 480 line analog component video, YPbPr, sync on Y") < 1305861597 895920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?undo do { r <- x; MaybeT (return r) } < 1305861597 977851 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x >>= \ r -> MaybeT (return r) < 1305861601 373617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?. pl undo do { r <- x; MaybeT (return r) } < 1305861601 455731 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MaybeT . return =<< x < 1305861619 513183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioMaybe :: IO a -> MaybeT Shiro a < 1305861619 678456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioMaybe m = MaybeT . return =<< liftShiro ((Just <$> io m) `catchShiro` \(e::IOException) -> return Nothing) < 1305861621 867793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely I can do better than that. < 1305861661 804217 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually... < 1305861678 959951 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: With just two outputs I think you could do S-Video. < 1305861753 832697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hoogle guard < 1305861753 914439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad guard :: MonadPlus m => Bool -> m () < 1305861753 996305 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language.Haskell.TH data Guard < 1305861753 996461 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language.Haskell.TH.Syntax data Guard < 1305861789 801767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yes the code is getting so much better < 1305861819 3143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybeT :: Maybe a -> MaybeT m a < 1305861821 235061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :need a better name for this < 1305861823 418827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :any suggestions? < 1305861832 20091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wait < 1305861833 759010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that just MaybeT < 1305861835 789608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's not < 1305861878 665202 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: YPbPr might be a good idea < 1305862035 525161 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1305862132 522145 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: mostly because it's similar to vga but lets you use half the horiz refresh rate and share sync info < 1305862150 549384 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The colorspace is a bit bizarre, though. < 1305862176 400563 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, okay, so technically it's a change of basis of the RGB colorspace. But still annoying. < 1305862400 68630 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1305862479 905906 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I'm not certain their video projector will have a YCrCb input < 1305862488 790143 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas all of them have a VGA input < 1305862513 280330 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305862546 295019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know what's the best < 1305862704 793159 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :second < 1305862869 460411 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1305862948 290844 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305863512 227738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg tomorrow is the raptjure < 1305863532 541325 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, tomorrow is Friday, you damned Britishman. < 1305863573 172341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suht the fuck up americaevil < 1305863619 492239 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when on saturday is the rapture < 1305863658 393353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :raptune < 1305863663 785981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its................ < 1305863664 700990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time party < 1305863674 390234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it starts... in australia....or new zzealand...the timez0nes < 1305863678 166984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i am not joking they seriously believe this) < 1305863685 46271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it expands to less sheepfucking....areas of the....globe < 1305863724 57116 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it expand in all directions or just a few < 1305863737 216125 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a gradual rapture sounds pretty inconvenient < 1305863750 683099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok because < 1305863752 691470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you hear the news < 1305863755 926884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHEEPFUCKERS DECIMATED < 1305863757 40338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1305863760 37750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :become christain < 1305863763 73539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ull be taken < 1305863769 401027 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a deal < 1305863776 970453 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure salvation is irrevocable. < 1305863782 763176 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I'm secretly a sheepfucker < 1305863784 994822 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I win. < 1305863792 583244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: just go eat some babies < 1305863796 826773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god will make an exception < 1305863815 230694 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What do you think I eat 3 meals a day? < 1305863816 249712 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dood, it's the rapture! Dat shit gonna rapture everywhere bitch! < 1305863826 114007 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Animal* flesh? That's disgusting, man. < 1305863845 274309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmhmm go to bed now when its just getting light < 1305863847 191290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or fix this code first < 1305864470 822452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's oerjan when you need him < 1305864674 356660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... it is five am... < 1305864676 536693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should < 1305864677 885304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to slepe < 1305864679 769309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slepe < 1305864717 845113 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305864756 597745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ < 1305864758 4777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :name my function < 1305864774 974475 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your... function? < 1305864785 156501 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean like id? < 1305864833 672896 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1305864848 346802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1305864853 554131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? :: (Monad m) => Maybe a -> MaybeT m a < 1305864853 732781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? = MaybeT . return < 1305864854 650463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :name it < 1305864866 307308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to go to sleep but i can't until its named < 1305864885 141949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[asterisk]it's < 1305864967 905891 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makeTransformer < 1305864973 597497 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :generalize < 1305864988 332623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1305864995 705183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the worst fucking names ive veer heard im going back to hashhaskell < 1305865016 722556 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes it something more compattibible with use in a monad stack, right? < 1305865052 757096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah no never mind < 1305865054 929846 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: liftMaybe < 1305865059 149596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: its not a lift < 1305865075 365835 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, perhaps I should sleep. < 1305865079 440198 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lower < 1305865088 646458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<kmc> lift :: M a -> MaybeT M a < 1305865088 752454 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps I should listen to Animals again. < 1305865088 834544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<kmc> foo :: Maybe a -> MaybeT m a < 1305865091 219081 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um no that maes no ense < 1305865106 759095 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely the latter. < 1305865231 178482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq_ < 1305865232 728394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is five twenty < 1305865233 341609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :am < 1305865234 77285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i < 1305865236 575189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed-><_ < 1305865239 818649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so then < 1305865241 316740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :name my function < 1305865242 115751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can < 1305865242 461702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed < 1305865260 410247 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305865283 247980 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe < 1305865332 348457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t maybe < 1305865332 958334 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall b a. b -> (a -> b) -> Maybe a -> b < 1305865334 16391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try again < 1305865374 342933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1305865376 230586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess ill go to bed < 1305865634 333992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1305865872 719471 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1305866671 984128 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapture? i don't wanna die :(( < 1305866963 128802 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the rapture, the discoture < 1305866991 474481 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :october 21 < 1305866999 649950 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for you maybe, but i've had anal sex :( < 1305867025 12809 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a filthy unbeliever < 1305867031 817433 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :filthy atheist at that < 1305867041 821110 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :supposedly jesus loves you, but here he is, blowing up the world < 1305867044 940053 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that love < 1305867072 54703 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was just putting up a front until god gave him some powah < 1305867149 852923 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: The alternative is believing in *and worshipping* Yahweh, as interpreted by a particular form of Christianity. < 1305867193 122968 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno about you, but I'm of the opinion that if Yahweh existed, he wouldn't be deserving of worship. < 1305867259 766888 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :love everyone kill everyone send everyone to hell < 1305867260 656799 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :any christians in here btw? < 1305867270 978018 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope not; I want my fun. < 1305867328 840689 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does former Christian count? < 1305867330 974547 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh no christians I guess < 1305867604 798580 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i barely believe in christianity < 1305867687 736571 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: "Barely"? < 1305867708 688991 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: Inquiry: what evidence is there for the claims of Christianity? < 1305867721 833179 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you solve #5225 in freecell? :\ it seems like the obvious approach is to empty the rightmost column right away without leaving anything up, but it seems like you get stuck if you do that < 1305867735 335966 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's some bad evidence. :P < 1305867740 408979 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: well people say they're christian sometimes < 1305867748 617311 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm not completely sure they're lying < 1305867755 6888 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the *existence of the faith*. < 1305867758 641709 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm somewhat agnostic in that sense < 1305867760 208855 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1305867761 197475 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No argument. < 1305867776 202670 :SgeoN2!~AndChat@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1305867777 242172 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's christianity < 1305867824 106977 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: In short: the belief that a God had a son who was also God, who died and became a zombie to save us from our sins. < 1305867875 373841 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the part where he kills people because he loves them < 1305867877 313437 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking insane < 1305867910 286175 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the eternal torment for not believing combined with omnibenevolence is quite a trip. < 1305867979 10689 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well on an intellectual level i find it easy to believe in the existence of faith in general, everyone finds their own way to get out of circling the philosophical drain at times when you decide to realize life is sort of pointless, which i believe happens to all people who spend time thinking, occasionally. that people would choose the faith people next to them have is equally easy to believe. on an intellectual level. somehow i still have this feelin < 1305868021 974305 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay < 1305868025 914099 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you still have what feelin < 1305868060 633459 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's certainly not easy to believe, on an intellectual level, that people actually believe the bible stories :P but you know the general feeling of "christian god" < 1305868075 809315 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i have this feeling christianity is just a big joke, we're just not in on it < 1305868094 166524 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh you were being SARCASTIC! sorry us atheists are kind of slow sometimes." < 1305868111 686072 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is my dream < 1305868142 94272 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my theory: that's what "rapture" actually means, they just chicken out every time. < 1305868159 860417 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1305868165 939346 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it means they tell us < 1305868316 770209 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading the brick testament < 1305868375 836390 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3mg of melatonin taken < 1305868377 349448 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading its rendition of revelation < 1305868378 744191 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff < 1305868472 139426 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bricktestament.com/the_teachings_of_jesus/on_anger_and_insults/mt05_21a.html < 1305868535 475993 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how it uses qui-gon jinn as jesus < 1305868628 183717 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got personal experience for the existence of Christians. < 1305868646 586173 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having once been one, I can be sure that there at least *was* at least one person who actually believed it. < 1305868648 202121 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1305868660 651362 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that that helps others too much. < 1305868722 618310 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305868763 149047 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you telling me there are christians who don't believe? < 1305868766 687923 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?!? http://www.bricktestament.com/judges/samson_commits_mass_murder/jg14_01.html < 1305868777 836990 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the... that's a joke right :D < 1305868788 621038 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does this stuff keep surprising me < 1305868811 672773 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok! :D < 1305868846 362895 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that story is the most horrible thing ever < 1305868847 924870 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi augur < 1305868858 141103 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup you < 1305868866 523318 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm going to take a shower now < 1305868871 922853 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise good < 1305868900 967743 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the ending is like... wtf < 1305868910 381663 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: welcome to the old testament < 1305868946 296236 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah unlike the beginning where good took over the guy and made him wanna have sex with an unclean one. < 1305868953 816634 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*god < 1305868987 319613 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't they rename satan to bad and use baad instead of bad, would make much more sense < 1305868989 478544 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the Old Testament is the land of God endorsing an absurd amount of reprehensible behavior. < 1305869021 209849 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose the concept of free will was invented later? < 1305869028 869267 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole thing is a blend of confusing beliefs. < 1305869039 352837 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The concept of *monotheism* was invented after much of it was written. < 1305869087 784502 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :old testament has way too much wars and "10000 men were killed" and so on < 1305869091 946134 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah god had sent most of the text down before realizing the retards didn't even get the basic framework yet < 1305869107 242308 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he gave a few seminars and then send the new testament < 1305869115 943839 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sent < 1305869255 922281 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: There's also the obvious after-the-fact editing. < 1305869271 64957 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So God spoke to God" < 1305869306 228132 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: didn't knew of that one < 1305869317 175378 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :one classic is the 2 deaths of judah < 1305869342 994409 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all *over* the place. < 1305869352 366523 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric : japanese is like golfing for speech < 1305869355 94163 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :When does he come around? < 1305869361 81744 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to give him a few internets. < 1305869454 315511 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reading the revelation is like < 1305869460 370040 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no loving god would do that < 1305869469 712131 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that also applies to other parts of the bible < 1305869502 630572 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the early Jewish deities: Asherah, El, Yahweh, Baal. < 1305869536 496748 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first three are held to be names of God. < 1305869568 95745 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305869586 871748 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the Old Testament still has the *names* of the pantheon. < 1305869752 268970 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :el and baal are classic semitic gods afaik. don't know anything about the other ones < 1305869779 422601 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all fairly typical semitic gods. < 1305869812 732935 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Jews are and were just a single group of semitic tribesmen, really. < 1305870015 308196 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1305870026 34256 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is good: < 1305870026 620357 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bricktestament.com/king_david/god_kills_70000_israelites/2s24_01p1ch21_01.html < 1305870142 220307 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah, the stories you never hear a Christian talk about. < 1305870154 143898 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of loving god is that < 1305870168 895118 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that one is relatively well known I think < 1305870216 852265 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Relatively, sure. < 1305870224 390044 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still glossed over by most. < 1305870324 922880 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, of course, the documentary hypothesis is something they're ignorant of, unless they went to seminary. < 1305870388 718868 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i getting this right, god orders him to take a census and kills everyone because he does? < 1305870408 656919 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1305870416 911215 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a euphemism for kill everyone < 1305870420 768092 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :God's a complete dick. < 1305870422 771760 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this would indeed make more sense with two gods < 1305870437 480115 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's taking a census bad exactly? < 1305870449 263501 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1305870460 57714 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that's how you prove the polynomial hierarchy collapses to theta_2 if you have a sparse np-complete set :\ < 1305870496 48240 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and various other things) < 1305870665 70132 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bricktestament.com/king_david/god_kills_70000_israelites/2s24_25b.html xD < 1305870889 40936 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some sort of reverse psychology attempt? < 1305870940 369332 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works much better if you imagine there were two deities. Sadly, I think David takes place after monotheism. < 1305871018 538453 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be just one deity with some sort of personality disorder. I hear there's all kinds of. < 1305871101 646490 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wilderness, and the part from Joshua to King Solomon is like... war pillage rape death < 1305871138 62513 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but that's the history of just about everyone in that part of the world. < 1305871142 831102 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the brick testament) < 1305871158 852174 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah that's typical antiquity < 1305871161 477920 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1305871197 415363 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1305871215 944773 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305871227 41718 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1305871227 177729 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1305871442 456204 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1305871471 477159 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org NICK :Guest52131 < 1305872403 673229 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-174-178.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305872429 926639 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-181-178.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1305873239 826477 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lorsque Joram eut pris possession du royaume de son père et qu'il se fut fortifié, il fit mourir par l'épée tous ses frères et quelques-uns aussi des chefs d'Israël. " < 1305873242 113069 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice guy < 1305873476 493118 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db42f41.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :h[a]gb4rd < 1305875007 320663 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maybe it's just me but the bible has lots of death and punishment but not quite as much for kings < 1305875084 759377 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305875197 765927 :madbr!~madbrain@modemcable032.155-200-24.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1305877945 616293 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305878747 366594 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1305879833 773871 :cheater79!~cheater23@ip-80-226-238-47.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1305880452 440046 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305881404 904675 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305881596 420299 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1305882232 61498 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1305882381 151089 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305884634 616630 :cheater79!~cheater23@ip-80-226-238-47.vodafone-net.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1305884645 963436 :cheater79!~cheater23@ip-80-226-238-47.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1305885442 181458 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1305886436 124492 :olsner_!~salparot@90-224-62-130-no50.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1305890343 728379 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1305891453 996707 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1305891539 334030 :ais523_!93bcc029@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.192.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1305891703 277115 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305892228 643625 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you guys doing to prepare for the end of the world < 1305892398 908443 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating breakfast < 1305893005 409813 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't be freed from your earthly shell on an empty stomach, huh? < 1305893082 817964 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No-one's yet told me how I can help to end the world, so I haven't prepared at all. < 1305893147 260156 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you made the earth spin faster it'd end sooner < 1305893156 690130 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have much time now < 1305893639 997516 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's nuke the world first. < 1305893667 186455 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they ever say what time it would occur? < 1305893670 765499 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 pm < 1305893683 465968 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GMT? < 1305893689 308656 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no let's _stop_ the world spinning. the side effects should be minimal compared to the apocalypse, right? < 1305893692 985138 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, in whatever time zone you're in < 1305893709 963328 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :the earthquake is going to move all the way around the earth, forming a neat arc < 1305893719 640475 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but uh < 1305893720 309443 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it'll suddenly rush forward for time zones that are wide < 1305893723 89432 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will move in discrete steps, no? < 1305893724 975925 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't know < 1305893732 644472 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should ask someone who knows more about this < 1305893734 873369 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :entire time zones at a time < 1305893750 42915 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did they even come up with this number? < 1305893753 958863 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=rapture+6+pm < 1305893758 705095 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US should declare that the year in that country is now 0 < 1305893774 469877 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mathematical calculation based on multiplying three numbers that represent heaven, atonement and (something else I forget) then squaring them < 1305893778 528187 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once knew a guy who nowadays thinks he's the reincarnated Jesus, and he's very convinced it'll happen < 1305893780 412215 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :then adding them to when jesus died on the cross < 1305893784 632879 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it ends up exactly on may 21st < 1305893787 852616 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he's also performed cunnilingus on dogs, so ...) < 1305893793 892678 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu. < 1305893815 296926 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The solution is for a country to declare that the year there is 0, and that time will be based on 4 hour days from then on. < 1305893835 430761 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :And spoil numerologists' fun? < 1305893838 81620 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't Israel be destroyed ages back in that case? < 1305893856 165782 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 2011 end times prediction made by Christian radio host Harold Camping states that the Rapture (in premillennial theology, the taking up into heaven of God's elect people) will take place on May 21, 2011[1][2] at 6 p.m. local time (the rapture will sweep the globe time zone by time zone)[3] < 1305893856 510479 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Hebrew calendar is on the year 6000ish by now < 1305893861 514118 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah it's 6 pm in each time zone < 1305893875 901900 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zwaarddijk: it was. several times. < 1305893886 756078 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah but not properly < 1305893893 794894 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's back! < 1305893900 817864 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu, besides. < 1305893904 681273 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the people in space or the moon? < 1305893905 322967 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/io failed < 1305893912 885476 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hasn't the calendar been adjusted multiple times since 0 AD anyway < 1305893915 814146 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I wonder if Camping thinks time zones are god-given or that they are a natural universal or something < 1305893937 854704 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: loads of times, and sometimes independently in different countries < 1305893943 436878 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweden, for instance, has had a february 30th once. < 1305893961 451591 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. < 1305893967 82480 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :When do people on the moon get raptured? < 1305893967 584556 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also doesn't relativity screw up the idea of the rapture starting everywhere at once -anyway- < 1305893985 825404 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu, I'm quite sure not. < 1305893986 79826 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: there aren't anyone on the moon other than that nazi base anyway < 1305893993 109933 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only frames of reference are skewed, right? < 1305894009 15723 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but those are all righteous men, and therefore will be raptured < 1305894013 632692 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I'm talking theoreticals. < 1305894015 549637 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :People on the earth are in a different frame of reference from people on the earth but in a supersonic jet or people on the moon < 1305894022 420196 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zwaarddijk: sounds reasonable. < 1305894026 803731 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's enough to make it ambiguous < 1305894058 732410 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask him what exactly "6PM" is defined as. < 1305894066 448458 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides. < 1305894069 266275 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are clearly wrong. < 1305894070 337265 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's make a rapture themed esolang < 1305894072 613966 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japan has already been raptured. < 1305894081 68302 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1305894084 348161 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also relativity is rubbish, the earth is the center of the universe duh < 1305894084 906923 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make a prediction to schedule a thread to execute at a certain point in the future < 1305894097 187158 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu. < 1305894097 910865 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also. < 1305894100 586686 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can skip the rapturation part if you just wait until 5:30pm in your time zone, and then walk over the border to some place where it's already 6:30pm and it's gone past? < 1305894108 553325 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japan has already been raptured! How does that work out? < 1305894114 788645 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have they? < 1305894118 9563 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :(due to the tentacle pron, nobody was saved) < 1305894122 9091 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like japan had the first 9.0 earthquake < 1305894123 185072 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: shouldn't it be a lang that doesn't do what the source code tells it to at the point in the future, but presents an elaborate theological excuse why it didn't < 1305894131 717976 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zwaarddijk that's what I was thinking < 1305894134 656556 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: not very many christians there anyway < 1305894136 922438 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it never actually runs anything < 1305894141 855223 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu. < 1305894143 493903 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just acts as thouigh it's going to < 1305894159 968167 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have it have a "savior" clause that is the conditional to start the thread. < 1305894197 710901 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1305894206 717324 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :prime_sieve() failed to start because Jesus heard our sincere prayers and spared our CPU from its great burden. < 1305894212 687731 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Praise to the Lord! < 1305894256 554663 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Insufficient faith, please pray again later." < 1305894296 103425 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of faith error < 1305894302 431574 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certain variables will be set as 'christian'. When the rapture starts they will be taken into heaven (stdout) and print out their contents < 1305894315 270843 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sinners, however, stay on this earth and are static < 1305894353 272314 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :until the great garbage collection, anyway < 1305894373 80052 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sinners are corrupt, and so will randomly hold the wrong value to spite you < 1305894396 891658 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :When Jesus finally comes the program exits otherwise it will run forever < 1305894411 565996 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :If no prediction ever comes true this is fated to happen < 1305894530 914803 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are only permitted to set String variables to contain verses of the bible. The KJB of course, the true English bible < 1305894550 168433 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now internationalization is impossible, as it should be < 1305894577 322081 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/5kpZ9Z6n < 1305894593 724107 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failure to set a String variable correctly throws a FalseTeachingException < 1305894595 36154 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is my proposal for the basic idea of said programming language. < 1305894616 640793 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you probably get an alignment error if you try to read a blessed variable from a sinful context. < 1305894622 175880 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah < 1305894627 185184 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :predictions and saviors are the only flow control systems. < 1305894647 953867 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, question is. < 1305894653 708709 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you define those contexts? < 1305894709 495221 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the manmade/godgiven idea < 1305894748 26378 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best thing about rapture mania btw is the USA centricism of it < 1305894781 205658 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could just be an inherited thread-local property, with the possibility of invoking some special script(ure)s to change it under suitable conditions. < 1305894802 92186 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL scriptures < 1305894815 645061 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of packages, testaments? < 1305894834 484130 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1305894837 244310 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu. < 1305894844 806508 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much of a nightmare can you make a programming language like this? < 1305894874 857470 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose that the only way to control code flow is to create new threads with a delay, and be able to stop delayed threads from executing. < 1305894885 299258 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can only schedule them in real time < 1305894902 590774 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regarding the The Brick Testament page that was linked-to earlier on-channel, I had the tab left open, and misread one title as "Jacob's Wireless God". That sounded rather interesting. (In reality it was either the "Jacob's Wives Compete" or "Jacob Wrestles God" one.) < 1305894907 870449 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can waitfor(therapture) and do nothing until it executes < 1305894927 917691 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :waitfor(therapture) sounds vaguely ~ATHish. < 1305894949 179017 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1305894963 300863 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :In each module, a variable is either christian, neutral, or sinful. < 1305894979 443713 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a rapture command is used, all christian variables are printed in the order they are defined in the source file, with a new line between each. < 1305895004 677656 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am sorry but i am sure neutral variables are against christian dogma < 1305895018 503493 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.. guess so. < 1305895030 202605 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways. < 1305895050 827045 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's right < 1305895053 110568 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're of god or you're not < 1305895057 614140 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a command sin([some point-to-variable mechanism]) and a command atone([same]) < 1305895063 174873 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :These do the obvious. < 1305895076 975014 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only variables accessable in the current scope are printed. < 1305895093 101506 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw here's why may 21st: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2011/05/10/rapture_may_21/index.html click the 'continue reading' link on the first story, 'Why the world might end next Saturday' < 1305895107 959450 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu, is there any way to make it so that concurrency isn't just required, but required, and required to be messy? < 1305895138 258169 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :By restricting how you can access variables? < 1305895144 70376 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you could only access them from a different thread < 1305895144 890331 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1305895151 83906 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1305895153 256574 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I think I figured it out. < 1305895174 153713 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :godgiven variables are mutable. < 1305895179 987384 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, if it's modified, the current context becomes sinful < 1305895203 472397 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can this be made to be annoying? < 1305895235 230930 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :There needs to be an incredibly detailed and functional Bible object in the main library < 1305895267 674245 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should the language be functional, procedural, or what? < 1305895334 256014 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1305895344 161266 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp is clearly the purest language conceivable < 1305895346 188822 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's base it on that. < 1305895569 678018 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: the bible object must be ignoreable, and very very flexible < 1305895582 594894 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you start a thread going by making a prediction, how does it communicate with other threads and/or return results? < 1305895587 333354 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :What channels are available < 1305895593 674726 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it part of the global scope < 1305895618 429812 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu, it communicates via global variables. < 1305895619 338885 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Period. < 1305895626 931435 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense < 1305895635 342410 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, local scopes are moral relativism < 1305895639 623224 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which the bible clearly forbids < 1305895681 238612 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1305895684 28600 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's object orientation, there's no polymorphism because evolution is impossible (the bible guarantees it) < 1305895691 643941 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going for rapture, you need dispensationalism < 1305895695 708519 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a kind of moral relativism < 1305895699 820078 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can local variables be accessed by nested predictions? < 1305895704 589804 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :viz. God makes different ethical demands at different times < 1305895715 839050 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ssssshhhhhh < 1305895731 734639 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu, use a sinful/pure mechanism. < 1305895738 642198 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything with a local context is "sinful" < 1305895743 201849 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything without one is "pure" < 1305895749 896278 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most commands can only be used by pure threads. < 1305895757 240360 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah < 1305895782 948680 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to, you can write this up or start a wikipage on it or whatever < 1305895788 852327 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see myself getting around to it if it's up to me < 1305895791 270120 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would a pure thread use most commands? < 1305895800 937137 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because sinners have fallen from the grace of God < 1305895807 461576 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :most commands are sinful in some way! < 1305895810 416338 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implementing it is going to be NP-annoying < 1305895814 186996 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hence thingss only sinners would want using < 1305895824 379238 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything in the math library? < 1305895825 411109 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming can be a Godly experience < 1305895838 416206 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu, heh. < 1305895840 926827 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we need math to figure out our rapture predictions < 1305895841 459715 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1305895842 988756 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elementary math < 1305895846 858646 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :And pow() < 1305895849 957142 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it annoying as possible, and make that the tag line? < 1305895854 390601 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's add a graphics library. < 1305895856 948587 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about OpenGL? < 1305895863 443972 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu, but. < 1305895872 488334 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it doesn't have to be annoying, just thematic and different in some way < 1305895875 733956 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annoying is just a bonus < 1305895893 832913 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elementry math with pow means you can use this: http://www.xamuel.com/formula.php < 1305895908 241477 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have flow control which can build a sum command. < 1305895921 337248 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1305895929 421621 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Begone, vile high level math < 1305895931 531346 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also < 1305895941 505022 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's OpenGL support we need a WireCross() and SolidCross() function < 1305895957 426668 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1305896045 458286 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about input < 1305896098 325842 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logos < 1305896104 524723 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :God spoke the command line arguments into existence < 1305896114 593319 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they were good (assuming no malformed input) < 1305896161 808107 :Zwaarddijk!miekko@infa.abo.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: I think base-22 would be good, btw, since hebrew has 22 letters < 1305896177 228537 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hebrew? < 1305896183 672304 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was the last time a rapture monger read any hebrew < 1305896186 691185 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise I'd agree < 1305896205 540420 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :(base-26, the KJB has 26 letters) < 1305896244 917397 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if we can work in begetting somehow. beget