00:06:56 -!- Wamanuz2 has joined. 00:08:15 -!- Wamanuz has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 00:27:37 -!- zzo38 has joined. 00:28:09 Is whoever wrote the PHP article a registered user or not? (If so, it can be moved to userspace since it definitely does not fit in the main namespace) 00:28:20 link? 00:28:29 It appears to be AJF. 00:29:01 So, move the [[PHP]] article to [[User:AJF/PHP]] and remove links from the language list and joke language list (and all other lists); keep it in userspace only 00:29:14 It is already deleted. 00:30:05 I know it is deleted. However: (deleted "PHP": hmm, delete; what's suggested here is hardly esoteric compared to actual esolangs. (PHP has some bizarre features, but these are not them.) I'll give a copy of the page/history on request.) 00:30:08 * Sgeo wants Impractical Common Lisp 00:30:30 zzo38: well, if ajf really wants that, he can ask 00:30:55 elliott: OK, I think you are correct about that. It makes sense that he can ask since it is his user page. 00:31:30 -!- Slereah has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:32:12 -!- Slereah has joined. 00:33:04 I wrote some equations having to do with D&D this is one: $$\max\left(\left\lfloor{8\over n}\left((e+4)^2-c^2\right)\right\rfloor,1\right)+\min(a,2e)^2$$ 00:33:56 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:34:30 I noticed something in anarchy golf that seems to have changed, KEY? no longer works, it seems. I wrote a code to fix it, and I will post the code on #anagol channel as well 00:37:04 I will post it here too since that channel is not logged. 00:37:13 VARIABLE LAST-KEY : #KEY KEY ; : #KEY? KEY? ; : KEY #KEY LAST-KEY DUP @ -ROT ! ; : KEY? LAST-KEY @ 4 <> ; KEY DROP 00:37:18 * Sgeo falls in love with setf. 00:37:35 Sgeo: What is that? 00:37:39 hahah 00:38:11 zzo38, Common Lisp's assignment macro. The way it can be used, though.. you can specify a form that refers to a place, and ... best to use an example, I think 00:38:23 OK, make example please 00:38:33 Say you have an array a. (aref a 0) gets whatever's in 0, like a[0] in C. 00:38:44 (setf (aref a 0) 5) will set it to 5. 00:38:57 And you can define how setf works for your own functions. 00:40:19 a lot of schemes have that. 00:47:21 I don't think Racket does? And also as far as I can tell, Racket lacks nice um.. I think hot-swapping may be the wrong word. 00:47:28 What Schemes have both? 00:50:39 I don't know. 00:50:47 zzo38, I was asking elliott 00:51:00 Maybe elliott doesn't know either because they didn't answer. 00:51:43 I don't know very good at Lisp and Scheme. 00:51:56 Is there example to define how setf works for your own functions? 00:51:57 what has hot swapping got to do with this and how does common lisp have this 00:52:06 and in which ways aren't you a fucking idiot about this stuff 00:52:10 elliott, I did say that hot swapping may be the wrong term 00:52:36 zzo38, I was about to say it's more likely that elliott's fuming at me.. 00:53:17 elliott, I can compile and load files and they load into a running environment 00:53:30 um 00:53:36 [dollar] python 00:53:38 >>> import foo 00:53:41 [dollar] mzscheme 00:53:45 > (load "blah.scm") 00:53:46 Not in scope: `load' 00:53:51 [dollar] any-fucking-thing 00:54:15 * Sgeo hits elliott with a trivial and not actually a good response counter-gcc 00:54:53 the topic is common lisp vs. schemes 00:55:06 give me one fucking scheme where you can't load files into an environment by passing them as an argument to load 00:55:55 I was thinking Racket's IDE, tb perfectly h 00:56:18 And please don't yell at me now that I see how wrong that is 00:56:27 you mean the ide that has a repl 00:56:54 And a bit for editing a file, and the REPL _restarts_ when you click Run 00:57:01 Wait, hmm 00:57:04 Let me check that 00:57:07 OR 00:57:08 Maybe you could 00:57:10 Type (load "x") 00:57:13 Into the REPL 00:57:15 This is a possibility 00:58:58 Yeah, IDE restarts the REPL 00:59:18 * Sgeo asks about it in #racket 00:59:50 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 01:22:14 I actually understand CL macros! Kind of 01:22:31 * Sgeo is vaguely aware of some unhygienicness thing with CL 01:28:13 common lisp macros are unhygienic, the end 01:28:18 enjoy five thousand gensyms 01:30:58 someone type an exclamation mark 01:31:09 ! 01:31:31 I hope that that was an exclamation mark for emphasis, not to ignore me 01:31:58 it is for 01:31:59 !help 01:31:59 help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . 01:32:02 argh 01:32:06 !logs 01:32:59 Why is there strange characters on the EgoBot help file? 01:38:32 hahahahaaha 01:38:33 i knew it 01:38:34 Gregor: 01:39:25 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:41:15 Yeah, but that's zzo. 01:41:48 "Racket doesn't support changing definitions during a long-running program, generally" 01:41:52 Gregor: just wait for the oerjan >:) 01:42:03 My response to oerjan is "Too bad. Welcome to 2011" 01:42:04 Gregor: or, any irssi user 01:42:06 Gregor: or, any irssi user 01:42:30 My response to any irssi user using irssi without Unicode support (really? It has none? At all? Even if you're in a Unicode-capable terminal?) is "Too bad. Welcome to 2011" 01:42:46 Gregor: I VERY MUCH DOUBT terminals show that character as invisible. 01:42:50 So lump in all WeeChat users too. 01:43:17 also rawirc 01:43:57 They may show it as a space instead of a zero-width space. 01:43:59 I'm beginning not to see the parentheses! 01:44:00 But that's no big deal. 01:45:00 Gregor: Wait, if all you want to do is to prevent people sending DCCs... 01:45:01 Why not just do 01:45:13 if (text[0] == '\[one]') {send("lolno"); return;} 01:45:16 And avoid all this mess X_X 01:45:17 Er, CTCPs. 01:45:24 Since you obviously don't care about mid-line CTCPs. 01:45:28 That would work perfectly :P 01:45:40 The ZWS at the beginning is unrelated to preventing CTCPs. 01:45:49 What is it for, then? 01:45:52 Botloops are practically impossible now. 01:45:54 Preventing botloops. 01:45:57 The only ones you can do involve lambdabot. 01:46:00 And we've already done that to death. 01:46:01 Until somebody brings in a new bot. 01:46:11 You are so boring X_X 01:46:13 Botloops are awesome. 01:46:52 Anyway, if it's unrelated, how come you said that's what the actual goal was? 01:47:05 I guess you also filter out first-character-ones even with the ZWS despite that being pointless. 01:47:32 Some kind of "!argh_ignore_the_next_line" seems nicer than making things screwy for copy-pasters everywhere (imagine `addquote) and even moreso for all terminal users, though :P 01:53:13 ... irssi has no Unicode support? 01:53:17 News to me. 01:53:35 -!- rev has joined. 01:53:40 -!- rev has left. 01:53:42 ……irssiはユニコード出来ない？ 01:54:01 僕に新しい。 01:56:29 Hmm. 01:56:31 !help 01:56:32 help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . 01:56:42 Yup, no strange chars. 01:58:55 -!- NihilistDandy has joined. 02:01:23 -!- NihilistDandy has quit (Client Quit). 02:02:01 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 02:02:01 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 02:02:01 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 02:05:31 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:13:47 -!- augur has joined. 02:25:58 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:03:34 pikhq: It starts with a zero-width space. 03:19:17 -!- calamari_ has joined. 03:22:46 Gregor: And I see no space there. 03:22:50 In irssi. 03:23:09 Then congrats, your irssi is not made of fail :P 03:24:58 It is very hard to get myself to study for the test tomorrow. 04:11:04 why is my circadian rhythm so fail 04:15:35 pikhq: what is the test on? 04:15:45 studying 04:17:44 Linear algebra. 04:24:58 -!- oerjan has joined. 04:26:28 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 04:28:29 oerjan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep-wake_syndrome CONFIRM/DENY 04:28:39 (obviously the reaction to having a broken circadian rhythm is to click every link on wikipedia recursively) 04:29:00 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:33:50 Common Lisp is starting to remind me of a criticism of PHP... inconsistently named functions, sometimes arguments are in a weird order 04:34:38 I have far different criticism of PHP 04:34:40 than that 04:36:09 hmm? 04:37:11 common lisp has functions with inconsistent argument order? 04:37:14 the names are a bit archaic, but 04:37:32 elliott: check 04:38:16 "By an accident of history, the order of arguments to GETHASH is the opposite of ELT--ELT takes the collection first and then the index while GETHASH takes the key first and then the collection." 04:39:09 elliott: well, i cannot confirm that mine is physiological 04:40:45 -!- zzo38 has joined. 04:46:31 Why oh why is QI not on US TV? 04:47:33 -!- wareya_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:47:54 !echo ok now what _is_ this broken solution elliott keeps speaking about 04:47:55 ok now what _is_ this broken solution elliott keeps speaking about 04:48:09 * oerjan sees nothing out of the ordinary 04:48:56 oerjan: There's a zero-width space at the start of the line. 04:49:08 ic (not) 04:49:26 wow it actually works for you? :) 04:49:33 well it doesn't for zzo38 ;) 04:49:38 (and it messes up copy-pasting for everyone) 04:49:40 ah. 04:49:41 Why oh why is QI not on US TV? 04:49:51 injustice and the two-party system 04:50:00 plus rampant crime and institutionalised racism 04:50:24 My computer it will display the character overlapping the colon for start of message 04:50:47 pikhq_: Just pirate it, it's OK, I'm British, I'll talk to Stephen Fry and explain the situation, and he'll forgive you. 04:51:05 elliott: I'm merely lamenting is all. 04:51:06 But even if it is doesn't, the other problems that you have described are still there. 04:51:58 We should just replace all TV with Stephen Fry talking. 04:52:07 god dammit homestuck it's been six days UPDATE 04:52:13 pikhq_: Yes. 04:52:46 oerjan: heh, the latest IWC annotation scared me into thinking DMM was about to go on a prescriptivist rant 04:52:50 I SHOULD KNOW BETTER 04:55:24 yeah you were literally panicking 04:57:48 literally 05:00:04 I read the log the reason for ZWS but another solution might be to add CTRL+O at the start? Will it work? 05:00:24 I know some IRC client might strip that from the display regardless of unicode, I think. 05:00:37 x 05:01:47 !echo hm... 05:01:47 hm.... 05:02:07 (there was a ^O in that when i wrote it) 05:02:25 Yes, it replaced with a period 05:02:33 XD 05:02:48 ok so it actually got through 05:03:48 !echo hi 05:03:53 !echo hi 05:03:53 hi 05:03:55 hmm 05:04:00 oh 05:04:02 it makes my text black 05:04:03 that's not good 05:04:36 Doing CTRL+B twice would also work except that the channel mode tells it to strip some control characters (including CTRL+B) 05:04:55 What is QI, who is Stephen Fry, what is IWC annotation, and so on? 05:05:19 QI is an excellent television show starring Stephen Fry who is an English national treasure and also the next Monarch (note: statement is false). 05:05:27 IWC is Irregular Webcomic[exclamation mark], it is this thing 05:05:32 . 05:05:35 elliott: only the last word of it 05:06:16 oerjan: true 05:06:30 so guys in ten days when all the christians die what do we do :( 05:07:05 i guess we should have a small wake 05:07:18 Nothing. 05:07:30 -!- wareya has joined. 05:07:32 that sounds a bit heartless 05:07:57 damn this rapture shit 05:07:58 There isn't anything *to* do, therefore nothing. 05:08:01 it's too much for me :( 05:08:11 The other thing to do would be to figure out why it happen and prevent it. 05:08:15 zzo38: well the US might need a new President. 05:08:18 also, population. 05:08:27 why it's going to happen is because it's the rapture, duh 05:08:31 are you proposing we stop god? 05:09:18 No, I propose you stop in your own way. Such as, will stop being Christian work if you would rather not be dead? And anyone who does want to be dead (or to test it to see if this statement is in fact wrong) to become Christian instead. 05:09:57 you mean if christians want to avoid going up to heaven 05:10:04 they should become atheists and stop believing in the rapture 05:10:05 to avoid the rapture 05:10:06 wat 05:10:38 what Hugh Laurie released an album 05:10:45 elliott: No, I mean, in order to test the rapture! 05:11:02 (for zzo38: hugh laurie is this british person who pretends to be an american on television a lot) 05:11:09 And why do you think there is a rapture in ten days? 05:11:47 zzo38: http://www.google.com/search?q=rapture+may+twentyfirst 05:11:50 i hear he pretends to be a doctor. isn't that illegal? 05:11:51 erm 05:11:54 zzo38: http://www.google.com/search?q=rapture+may+21st 05:11:59 oerjan, probably 05:12:18 -!- MDude has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:12:21 http://www.wecanknow.com/ 05:12:23 It is obviously true 05:12:40 oerjan: it's going to be really awesome when satan brings temporary peace 05:12:43 to this world 05:12:58 mhm 05:14:05 elliott: That was Clinton, of course. 05:14:07 :P 05:14:49 no the rapture hasnt happened yet 05:17:08 maybe the rapture _has_ happened, but the number of real, honest christians is so small that no one noticed 05:17:08 No, you cannot know. Yes it is possible for the bad things to happen, such as global warming, global thermonuclear war, and all sorts of other things; that doesn't mean it happens in ten days from now, nor can you take it literally what it says in Bible because they were simply warning you (in general, not about any of the things that occur now because they wouldn't have known when they wrote it). 05:17:28 Or maybe even the magnetic pole changes, who knows..... 05:17:33 you're very weird zzo38 05:17:45 it was just chucked into the unsolved disappearance statistics 05:17:47 elliott: Yes, I believe you. 05:18:48 and then god got so depressed by the low turnout he cancelled the rest of the apocalypse 05:19:19 omg wait atlas shrugged it out already 05:19:24 is 05:19:29 i cant wait to go waste my time laughing 05:20:46 i thought you meant atlas shrugged out the apocalypse. would be just like him, you know. 05:27:21 maybe the twenty-first is when sburb gets released... 05:27:47 i would do numerology on five/twenty-three/eleven, but without number keys that seems like way too much of a pain also i'm lazy 05:29:34 Maybe on May 21st, all the non-believers are lifted into atheist heaven. 05:30:45 what about muslins 05:30:51 WILL FABRICS SURVIVE 05:31:24 maybe on may 21st, _all_ religions and life views become literally true, by the world splitting into hundreds of parallel worlds so everyone thinks most of the others have disappeared 05:31:49 So, the one I'm in will keep on going? 05:32:19 oerjan: hmm, I don't think that can happen 05:32:22 yes, but you will have some job developing a scientific explanation why all religious people disappeared 05:32:39 oerjan: well that can perfectly well happen it's just exceedingly improbable... 05:32:46 worlds are usually referred to as meaning just universes 05:32:51 oerjan: No, no, no, I am presuming I'd be in the universe wherein no religious people disappeared. 05:32:52 and it's not supernatural if it's in the universe 05:33:20 pikhq_: ok we shall need a good source of philosophical zombies, then 05:33:24 Hrm, that makes less sense after typing it out. 05:34:06 oerjan: don't swear 05:34:31 Oh, fuck off, you bastard. 05:34:49 wat 05:34:55 i was referring to "philosophical zombies" 05:35:09 I was referring to "don't swear" devoid of context. 05:35:21 your mom 05:35:23 As the idea of swearing at someone saying that amuses me. 05:35:28 Much like your mother. 05:35:44 Does it mean that everyone who is not your religion is philosophical zombies? 05:36:03 And that nobody knows if this is the exact date or only approximate? 05:36:11 THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PHILOSOPHICAL ZOMBIES 05:36:19 zzo38: no if your religion _does_ support people disappearing miraculously, then philosophical zombies will not be necessary 05:36:27 elliott: What about Zombie Socrates? 05:36:40 coppro: OK only him. 05:36:50 Not to mention Zombie Kierkegaard and Zombie Kant? 05:36:55 oerjan: But what if it doesn't? And what if your religion is a different date? 05:36:58 zombie kant is a huge kant 05:37:20 hmm, re: "exact date or only approximate", how can we be sure someone didn't miscount a day or so in the middle ages >:) 05:37:22 zzo38: right the date might be a bit tricky 05:38:01 elliott: i wouldn't trust that Gregor fellow to get the calendar right, you know 05:38:04 elliott: Astronomical records with dates. 05:38:08 oerjan: he can't smell 05:38:14 pikhq_: WHAT IF.......... ASTRONOMY IS LIE? 05:38:18 ANSWER NOW ATHEIST 05:38:19 of course not, he's a dead pope 05:38:19 >> 05:38:37 elliott: What if everything outside of your mind is a lie? 05:38:42 for long enough that he's stopped smelling, i think 05:38:42 elliott: Answer now, non-solipsist! 05:39:19 pikhq_: WHAT IF.... 05:39:21 UNIVERSE IS LIE???? 05:39:29 JOIN NIHLIST FEDERATON 05:39:35 CLUB AT SCHOOL IN ROOM 05:39:52 What if your mind itself is the lie? 05:39:55 * pikhq_ wonders what practical difference there is between nihilism and solipsism 05:40:02 zzo38: COGITO ERGO SVM 05:40:04 they forgot to book the room but no matter since it doesn't exist anyway 05:40:29 solipsism means something, nihilism doesn't :) 05:40:49 Which is philosophy if considering only yourself is lie and everything else does exists? 05:41:05 zzo38: That's called "bullshit". 05:41:25 solipsism by proxy... 05:41:26 NOTHING EXISTS 05:41:30 RESPOND NOW BITCHONS 05:41:42 By the very act of thinking, you can be sure that your own mind exists. 05:41:45 oerjan: i'll say for the hundredth time: solipsist missionaries is the best idea ever :D 05:41:55 -!- comex has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:42:06 pikhq_: But your thoughts are nothing except hallucination! 05:42:41 PORK 05:42:47 zzo38: PORK PORK PORK 05:42:48 PORK 05:42:50 PORK PORK 05:42:53 PORK PORK PORK PORK PORK PORK PORK 05:42:54 PORK 05:42:56 zzo38: ... Wut? 05:43:03 zzo38: PORK 05:43:34 zzo38: you can only be sure of those phenomena which are identical to their own illusion, which however includes many experiences 05:43:48 i must say 05:43:49 pikhq_: But your thoughts are nothing except hallucination! 05:43:50 amused me :D 05:44:01 "Your hallucinations are all in your mind! And your mind is a hallucination!" 05:44:11 (not the _causes_ of those experiences, but the experiences themselves) 05:44:47 and that is why cogito ergo sum is some approximation to valid 05:45:23 cogito ergo sum is impressive in being one of the few things that just about everyone can agree with :) 05:45:50 (the original surroundings of that statement, not so much) 05:46:21 The statement *itself* ends up being the only thing that is really certain. So of course almost everyone agrees. :P 05:46:51 Everything else is subject to fallible observation. 05:47:08 note that you cannot be sure that your thoughts are actually logical, you could just be imagining it 05:47:21 -!- comex has joined. 05:47:34 but at least you have them 05:48:00 the "ergo" part is probably the most controversial of that :) 05:48:06 (see: rejecting logic itself) 05:48:19 although, some asswipes will refuse to give "exists" a definition, but they're asswipes 05:50:05 ow 05:50:07 my back 05:56:44 -!- augur has joined. 05:58:52 any spanish speakers? :D 05:59:08 or french speakers 05:59:09 several hundred millions, i think 05:59:21 :P 05:59:44 i wonder if ##linguistics exists :P 05:59:53 yeah but they're all lame 06:00:55 and we're not 06:00:57 augur: Afraid you're mostly finding Germanic speakers in here. 06:01:12 prolly 06:01:17 norwegian is good too tho! 06:01:19 or danish 06:01:32 oerjan: 06:02:04 oerjan: troll him 06:02:11 when he asks you how you pronounce something just lie 06:02:13 it'll be great 06:02:17 well i dont need pronunciation 06:02:20 Bork bork bork. 06:02:21 well whatever 06:02:25 pikhq_: thats swedish 06:02:32 # (diff) (hist) . . Language list‎; 02:37 . . (-102) . . 109.230.217.91 (Talk) (, http://theteresapalmerbikiniwve.tumblr.com teresa palmer bikini, 304793, http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZODZ7R4ZGQDA5CALTMKHXB4HJI/blog/articles/281424 emily procter naked, >:-)), http://jessicabielsexsc) 06:02:34 >:-) 06:02:39 EVIL SPAMBOT 06:02:41 augur: Børk børk børk 06:02:43 Better? 06:02:45 yes 06:06:23 I tried to invent notation for cricket matches, and it is very complicated. 06:07:12 Well, it's cricket. 06:08:42 There are many fielding positions, extras, way to be out (lose a wicket), hit ball, bounce, scores, etc that you need different styles of type and accent mark, telling which player it is, and a lot of stuff, requiring accent mark, superscript, subscript, etc 06:08:53 augur: seier du det 06:09:28 augur: gutten tag 06:09:54 elliott: guten tag! 06:10:19 augur: du ein lich fäthras 06:10:23 "Snow showers before 9am, then rain showers between 9am and noon, then snow showers after noon. Some thunder is also possible." Forecast for tomorrow. 06:10:27 oerjan you're swedish, right? 06:10:31 FUCK YOU, COLORADO 06:10:35 `addquote oerjan you're swedish, right? 06:10:38 404) oerjan you're swedish, right? 06:10:40 XD 06:10:44 augur: nei eg er norsk 06:10:50 o ok 06:10:53 i dont remember who's who 06:11:01 augur: verk immein Steinlichernbburgen 06:11:02 augur: Ørjan Johansen is pretty clearly not Swedish. 06:11:09 augur: volkgräd 06:11:19 Örjan Johansson would pretty clearly have been 06:11:47 norwegian boys are hot, btw 06:11:48 just sayin 06:11:52 ... 06:11:53 Gosh, augur, how dare you not remember every detail of everyone's lives in here! :P 06:11:54 oerjan: whats your opinion on SATW 06:12:02 pikhq_: because you're not all oklopol 06:12:13 i might have an opinion if i knew what it was, although probably not 06:12:24 Scandinavia and the World 06:12:25 i'm just sitting here laughing :)))))))))) 06:12:26 its a web comic 06:12:51 sorry, no opinion there 06:13:15 except that the rest of the world _might_ suck even worse. maybe. 06:13:49 wait what 06:13:54 wait what? 06:14:10 this channel, btw. this channel. 06:14:14 * oerjan googles 06:14:30 oh those guys 06:16:08 GOD DAMMIT HOMESTUCK UPDATE 06:16:08 ok that last one was a bit amusing 06:22:52 oerjan: which last one 06:23:04 um the last one 06:23:21 (also the first one i looked at) 06:23:34 ah 06:23:38 the one about weirdo icelanders 06:23:49 there have been reddit links before, naturally 06:28:11 i had this dream that i was a bald cop 06:29:40 you are 06:29:59 last night i had a dream where i cuddled with this older lady and then in the morning her husband was pretty mad and took out a gun and then she numbed herself with some sort of injection and stuck a huge pipe in her mouth and drank water through it until she became a human size water bottle and exploded, destroying everything in sight 06:30:02 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 06:30:22 let that be a lesson for you 06:30:25 -!- Cheery has joined. 06:30:55 (she became an actual water bottle) 06:32:10 then i woke up and turned out i had been sleep destroying my apartment, everything was broken and scattered all over and the door was open and i couldn't close it and then i woke up again 06:32:33 oklopol can you turn your dreams into a film 06:32:38 they would be the best film 06:33:35 Or make a book 06:33:47 no 06:33:49 film 06:34:09 Maybe you can make film. 06:34:28 i do have some book making hopes and dreams, but the book would not be about my hopes/dreams 06:34:31 But for my dreams, it is strange often is the case it cannot be made proper film, you need book (at least at first) 06:34:59 so how many times out of ten would you say you fail to make the film and have to write a book instead? 06:35:21 oerjan: http://satwcomic.com/how-to-keep-friends 06:35:23 oklopol! :D 06:35:27 you're so finish 06:35:28 meeeeeeeeee! 06:35:40 you're so start 06:35:48