< 1305072416 428536 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1305072495 480959 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1305073657 475260 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1305073689 910247 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is whoever wrote the PHP article a registered user or not? (If so, it can be moved to userspace since it definitely does not fit in the main namespace) < 1305073700 326562 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1305073709 201928 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears to be AJF. < 1305073741 585322 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, move the [[PHP]] article to [[User:AJF/PHP]] and remove links from the language list and joke language list (and all other lists); keep it in userspace only < 1305073754 725213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is already deleted. < 1305073805 715187 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it is deleted. However: (deleted "PHP": hmm, delete; what's suggested here is hardly esoteric compared to actual esolangs. (PHP has some bizarre features, but these are not them.) I'll give a copy of the page/history on request.) < 1305073808 743888 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants Impractical Common Lisp < 1305073830 174147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, if ajf really wants that, he can ask < 1305073855 705999 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK, I think you are correct about that. It makes sense that he can ask since it is his user page. < 1305073890 696448 :Slereah!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-33-238.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305073932 439944 :Slereah!~Slereah@ANantes-259-1-128-64.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1305073984 436678 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some equations having to do with D&D this is one: $$\max\left(\left\lfloor{8\over n}\left((e+4)^2-c^2\right)\right\rfloor,1\right)+\min(a,2e)^2$$ < 1305074036 569620 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305074070 759836 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed something in anarchy golf that seems to have changed, KEY? no longer works, it seems. I wrote a code to fix it, and I will post the code on #anagol channel as well < 1305074224 898179 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will post it here too since that channel is not logged. < 1305074233 375672 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :VARIABLE LAST-KEY : #KEY KEY ; : #KEY? KEY? ; : KEY #KEY LAST-KEY DUP @ -ROT ! ; : KEY? LAST-KEY @ 4 <> ; KEY DROP < 1305074238 604192 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION falls in love with setf. < 1305074255 782852 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What is that? < 1305074259 950331 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1305074291 867912 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, Common Lisp's assignment macro. The way it can be used, though.. you can specify a form that refers to a place, and ... best to use an example, I think < 1305074303 682907 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, make example please < 1305074313 571061 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say you have an array a. (aref a 0) gets whatever's in 0, like a[0] in C. < 1305074324 836175 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(setf (aref a 0) 5) will set it to 5. < 1305074337 155246 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can define how setf works for your own functions. < 1305074419 169503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of schemes have that. < 1305074841 359681 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Racket does? And also as far as I can tell, Racket lacks nice um.. I think hot-swapping may be the wrong word. < 1305074848 507036 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Schemes have both? < 1305075039 153349 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1305075047 599824 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I was asking elliott < 1305075060 230727 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe elliott doesn't know either because they didn't answer. < 1305075103 569367 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know very good at Lisp and Scheme. < 1305075116 910079 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there example to define how setf works for your own functions? < 1305075117 766144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what has hot swapping got to do with this and how does common lisp have this < 1305075126 971421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in which ways aren't you a fucking idiot about this stuff < 1305075130 980872 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I did say that hot swapping may be the wrong term < 1305075156 833363 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I was about to say it's more likely that elliott's fuming at me.. < 1305075197 956746 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I can compile and load files and they load into a running environment < 1305075210 318724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1305075216 846286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[dollar] python < 1305075218 481044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> import foo < 1305075221 426734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[dollar] mzscheme < 1305075225 496449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (load "blah.scm") < 1305075226 234374 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `load' < 1305075231 370080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[dollar] any-fucking-thing < 1305075255 142213 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits elliott with a trivial and not actually a good response counter-gcc < 1305075293 758994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the topic is common lisp vs. schemes < 1305075306 705836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me one fucking scheme where you can't load files into an environment by passing them as an argument to load < 1305075355 813941 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking Racket's IDE, tb perfectly h < 1305075378 133079 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And please don't yell at me now that I see how wrong that is < 1305075387 622519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the ide that has a repl < 1305075414 25278 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a bit for editing a file, and the REPL _restarts_ when you click Run < 1305075421 529761 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, hmm < 1305075424 190454 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me check that < 1305075427 493307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR < 1305075428 862920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could < 1305075430 864024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type (load "x") < 1305075433 91732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Into the REPL < 1305075435 218459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a possibility < 1305075538 345613 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, IDE restarts the REPL < 1305075558 793640 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION asks about it in #racket < 1305075590 389281 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1305076934 525407 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually understand CL macros! Kind of < 1305076951 513269 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is vaguely aware of some unhygienicness thing with CL < 1305077293 233522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :common lisp macros are unhygienic, the end < 1305077298 151055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy five thousand gensyms < 1305077458 508860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone type an exclamation mark < 1305077469 391256 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1305077491 632361 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope that that was an exclamation mark for emphasis, not to ignore me < 1305077518 374223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is for < 1305077519 116792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1305077519 281192 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1305077522 666796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1305077526 315507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1305077579 365531 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is there strange characters on the EgoBot help file? < 1305077912 243592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahaaha < 1305077913 543607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew it < 1305077914 818136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: < 1305077965 655168 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305078075 580201 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but that's zzo. < 1305078108 256770 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Racket doesn't support changing definitions during a long-running program, generally" < 1305078112 43252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: just wait for the oerjan >:) < 1305078123 721446 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My response to oerjan is "Too bad. Welcome to 2011" < 1305078124 131234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: or, any irssi user < 1305078126 859422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: or, any irssi user < 1305078150 813300 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My response to any irssi user using irssi without Unicode support (really? It has none? At all? Even if you're in a Unicode-capable terminal?) is "Too bad. Welcome to 2011" < 1305078166 815942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I VERY MUCH DOUBT terminals show that character as invisible. < 1305078170 360421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So lump in all WeeChat users too. < 1305078197 102398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also rawirc < 1305078237 544101 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They may show it as a space instead of a zero-width space. < 1305078239 517933 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm beginning not to see the parentheses! < 1305078240 365820 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's no big deal. < 1305078300 351020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wait, if all you want to do is to prevent people sending DCCs... < 1305078301 910095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just do < 1305078313 552896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (text[0] == '\[one]') {send("lolno"); return;} < 1305078316 163723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And avoid all this mess X_X < 1305078317 856583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, CTCPs. < 1305078324 92139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you obviously don't care about mid-line CTCPs. < 1305078328 33209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would work perfectly :P < 1305078340 897864 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ZWS at the beginning is unrelated to preventing CTCPs. < 1305078349 740182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it for, then? < 1305078352 941754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botloops are practically impossible now. < 1305078354 667673 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preventing botloops. < 1305078357 433387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only ones you can do involve lambdabot. < 1305078360 213268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we've already done that to death. < 1305078361 572433 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until somebody brings in a new bot. < 1305078371 258019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are so boring X_X < 1305078373 681006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Botloops are awesome. < 1305078412 758031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if it's unrelated, how come you said that's what the actual goal was? < 1305078425 641968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you also filter out first-character-ones even with the ZWS despite that being pointless. < 1305078452 481729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some kind of "!argh_ignore_the_next_line" seems nicer than making things screwy for copy-pasters everywhere (imagine `addquote) and even moreso for all terminal users, though :P < 1305078793 798125 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... irssi has no Unicode support? < 1305078797 723905 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :News to me. < 1305078815 762368 :rev!~rev@178.73.216.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305078820 315043 :rev!~rev@178.73.216.196 PART :#esoteric < 1305078822 726868 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :……irssiはユニコード出来ない? < 1305078841 180188 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :僕に新しい。 < 1305078989 507421 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1305078991 896053 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1305078992 250185 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1305079002 403396 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, no strange chars. < 1305079135 637514 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305079283 276657 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1305079321 765599 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-49-79.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1305079321 842544 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-49-79.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1305079321 842680 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1305079531 175603 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305080027 722475 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1305080758 209883 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305083014 562546 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It starts with a zero-width space. < 1305083957 974229 :calamari_!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305084166 536369 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And I see no space there. < 1305084170 272080 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In irssi. < 1305084189 450364 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then congrats, your irssi is not made of fail :P < 1305084298 272657 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is very hard to get myself to study for the test tomorrow. < 1305087064 727756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is my circadian rhythm so fail < 1305087335 163766 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what is the test on? < 1305087345 603832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :studying < 1305087464 306321 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linear algebra. < 1305087898 433793 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1305087988 210500 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305088109 73800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep-wake_syndrome CONFIRM/DENY < 1305088119 657901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously the reaction to having a broken circadian rhythm is to click every link on wikipedia recursively) < 1305088140 628257 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-147-55.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305088430 329905 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common Lisp is starting to remind me of a criticism of PHP... inconsistently named functions, sometimes arguments are in a weird order < 1305088478 389207 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have far different criticism of PHP < 1305088480 922671 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :than that < 1305088569 935437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm? < 1305088631 46573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :common lisp has functions with inconsistent argument order? < 1305088634 778282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the names are a bit archaic, but < 1305088652 783117 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: check < 1305088696 658540 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By an accident of history, the order of arguments to GETHASH is the opposite of ELT--ELT takes the collection first and then the index while GETHASH takes the key first and then the collection." < 1305088749 161471 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, i cannot confirm that mine is physiological < 1305088845 407127 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1305089191 955935 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why oh why is QI not on US TV? < 1305089253 223959 :wareya_!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305089274 405116 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo ok now what _is_ this broken solution elliott keeps speaking about < 1305089275 540396 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ok now what _is_ this broken solution elliott keeps speaking about < 1305089289 518089 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sees nothing out of the ordinary < 1305089336 558466 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There's a zero-width space at the start of the line. < 1305089348 607960 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic (not) < 1305089366 637642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it actually works for you? :) < 1305089373 400149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it doesn't for zzo38 ;) < 1305089378 184593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it messes up copy-pasting for everyone) < 1305089380 558602 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1305089381 387445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why oh why is QI not on US TV? < 1305089391 49 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :injustice and the two-party system < 1305089400 87837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus rampant crime and institutionalised racism < 1305089424 747762 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer it will display the character overlapping the colon for start of message < 1305089447 689601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Just pirate it, it's OK, I'm British, I'll talk to Stephen Fry and explain the situation, and he'll forgive you. < 1305089465 281049 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm merely lamenting is all. < 1305089466 608938 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But even if it is doesn't, the other problems that you have described are still there. < 1305089518 477232 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should just replace all TV with Stephen Fry talking. < 1305089527 175524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god dammit homestuck it's been six days UPDATE < 1305089533 877918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Yes. < 1305089566 999172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: heh, the latest IWC annotation scared me into thinking DMM was about to go on a prescriptivist rant < 1305089570 565162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SHOULD KNOW BETTER < 1305089724 2140 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you were literally panicking < 1305089868 663366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally < 1305090004 414917 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read the log the reason for ZWS but another solution might be to add CTRL+O at the start? Will it work? < 1305090024 387391 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some IRC client might strip that from the display regardless of unicode, I think. < 1305090037 822966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1305090107 552981 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo hm... < 1305090107 834163 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hm.... < 1305090127 137739 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there was a ^O in that when i wrote it) < 1305090145 81157 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it replaced with a period < 1305090153 952820 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1305090168 178978 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so it actually got through < 1305090228 613789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo hi < 1305090233 638321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo hi < 1305090233 896477 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​hi < 1305090235 108373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1305090240 189899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1305090242 91960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes my text black < 1305090243 354602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not good < 1305090276 379618 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing CTRL+B twice would also work except that the channel mode tells it to strip some control characters (including CTRL+B) < 1305090295 774541 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is QI, who is Stephen Fry, what is IWC annotation, and so on? < 1305090319 64361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :QI is an excellent television show starring Stephen Fry who is an English national treasure and also the next Monarch (note: statement is false). < 1305090327 328118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IWC is Irregular Webcomic[exclamation mark], it is this thing < 1305090332 397026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1305090335 280264 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: only the last word of it < 1305090376 38069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: true < 1305090390 776220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so guys in ten days when all the christians die what do we do :( < 1305090425 419895 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess we should have a small wake < 1305090438 263863 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing. < 1305090450 792860 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1305090452 569728 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds a bit heartless < 1305090477 903650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn this rapture shit < 1305090478 67766 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't anything *to* do, therefore nothing. < 1305090481 931399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too much for me :( < 1305090491 102049 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other thing to do would be to figure out why it happen and prevent it. < 1305090495 532138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well the US might need a new President. < 1305090498 108084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, population. < 1305090507 988853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why it's going to happen is because it's the rapture, duh < 1305090511 28111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you proposing we stop god? < 1305090558 18365 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I propose you stop in your own way. Such as, will stop being Christian work if you would rather not be dead? And anyone who does want to be dead (or to test it to see if this statement is in fact wrong) to become Christian instead. < 1305090597 144647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean if christians want to avoid going up to heaven < 1305090604 216934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should become atheists and stop believing in the rapture < 1305090605 702823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid the rapture < 1305090606 587892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1305090638 329333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what Hugh Laurie released an album < 1305090645 611509 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, I mean, in order to test the rapture! < 1305090662 667231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for zzo38: hugh laurie is this british person who pretends to be an american on television a lot) < 1305090669 181619 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why do you think there is a rapture in ten days? < 1305090707 380704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://www.google.com/search?q=rapture+may+twentyfirst < 1305090710 30645 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear he pretends to be a doctor. isn't that illegal? < 1305090711 798516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1305090714 585134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://www.google.com/search?q=rapture+may+21st < 1305090719 586694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, probably < 1305090738 944126 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305090741 73322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wecanknow.com/ < 1305090743 131826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is obviously true < 1305090760 249473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's going to be really awesome when satan brings temporary peace < 1305090763 775172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to this world < 1305090778 462743 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1305090845 625482 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That was Clinton, of course. < 1305090847 309331 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1305090889 220993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no the rapture hasnt happened yet < 1305091028 60901 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the rapture _has_ happened, but the number of real, honest christians is so small that no one noticed < 1305091028 503817 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you cannot know. Yes it is possible for the bad things to happen, such as global warming, global thermonuclear war, and all sorts of other things; that doesn't mean it happens in ten days from now, nor can you take it literally what it says in Bible because they were simply warning you (in general, not about any of the things that occur now because they wouldn't have known when they wrote it). < 1305091048 418312 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe even the magnetic pole changes, who knows..... < 1305091053 425742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're very weird zzo38 < 1305091065 543825 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just chucked into the unsolved disappearance statistics < 1305091067 583541 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, I believe you. < 1305091128 38820 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then god got so depressed by the low turnout he cancelled the rest of the apocalypse < 1305091159 824242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg wait atlas shrugged it out already < 1305091164 80730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1305091169 831297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant wait to go waste my time laughing < 1305091246 608478 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you meant atlas shrugged out the apocalypse. would be just like him, you know. < 1305091641 25382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the twenty-first is when sburb gets released... < 1305091667 754141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would do numerology on five/twenty-three/eleven, but without number keys that seems like way too much of a pain also i'm lazy < 1305091774 270816 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe on May 21st, all the non-believers are lifted into atheist heaven. < 1305091845 124127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about muslins < 1305091851 325775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WILL FABRICS SURVIVE < 1305091884 401082 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe on may 21st, _all_ religions and life views become literally true, by the world splitting into hundreds of parallel worlds so everyone thinks most of the others have disappeared < 1305091909 985102 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the one I'm in will keep on going? < 1305091939 25157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, I don't think that can happen < 1305091942 48291 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but you will have some job developing a scientific explanation why all religious people disappeared < 1305091959 95361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well that can perfectly well happen it's just exceedingly improbable... < 1305091966 197299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :worlds are usually referred to as meaning just universes < 1305091971 32439 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, no, no, I am presuming I'd be in the universe wherein no religious people disappeared. < 1305091972 842207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not supernatural if it's in the universe < 1305092000 513648 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ok we shall need a good source of philosophical zombies, then < 1305092004 27526 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, that makes less sense after typing it out. < 1305092046 776922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't swear < 1305092071 757808 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fuck off, you bastard. < 1305092089 36989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1305092095 447606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was referring to "philosophical zombies" < 1305092109 218539 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was referring to "don't swear" devoid of context. < 1305092121 420640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom < 1305092123 715224 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the idea of swearing at someone saying that amuses me. < 1305092128 475789 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much like your mother. < 1305092144 806995 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it mean that everyone who is not your religion is philosophical zombies? < 1305092163 292915 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that nobody knows if this is the exact date or only approximate? < 1305092171 713284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PHILOSOPHICAL ZOMBIES < 1305092179 708734 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no if your religion _does_ support people disappearing miraculously, then philosophical zombies will not be necessary < 1305092187 728907 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What about Zombie Socrates? < 1305092200 912003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: OK only him. < 1305092210 740213 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention Zombie Kierkegaard and Zombie Kant? < 1305092215 114909 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But what if it doesn't? And what if your religion is a different date? < 1305092218 818607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zombie kant is a huge kant < 1305092240 107030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, re: "exact date or only approximate", how can we be sure someone didn't miscount a day or so in the middle ages >:) < 1305092242 269734 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right the date might be a bit tricky < 1305092281 564433 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i wouldn't trust that Gregor fellow to get the calendar right, you know < 1305092284 269194 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Astronomical records with dates. < 1305092288 131822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he can't smell < 1305092294 415337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: WHAT IF.......... ASTRONOMY IS LIE? < 1305092298 506742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANSWER NOW ATHEIST < 1305092299 37553 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not, he's a dead pope < 1305092299 134476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> < 1305092317 232135 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What if everything outside of your mind is a lie? < 1305092322 108523 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for long enough that he's stopped smelling, i think < 1305092322 612678 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Answer now, non-solipsist! < 1305092359 255506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: WHAT IF.... < 1305092361 384473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNIVERSE IS LIE???? < 1305092369 172362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOIN NIHLIST FEDERATON < 1305092375 122326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLUB AT SCHOOL IN ROOM < 1305092392 959958 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if your mind itself is the lie? < 1305092395 196217 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what practical difference there is between nihilism and solipsism < 1305092402 741034 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: COGITO ERGO SVM < 1305092404 103071 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they forgot to book the room but no matter since it doesn't exist anyway < 1305092429 897939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :solipsism means something, nihilism doesn't :) < 1305092449 159521 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is philosophy if considering only yourself is lie and everything else does exists? < 1305092465 337529 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That's called "bullshit". < 1305092485 894737 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :solipsism by proxy... < 1305092486 743108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTHING EXISTS < 1305092490 546546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RESPOND NOW BITCHONS < 1305092502 653486 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the very act of thinking, you can be sure that your own mind exists. < 1305092505 697427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'll say for the hundredth time: solipsist missionaries is the best idea ever :D < 1305092515 95608 :comex!comex@c-67-188-10-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305092526 709679 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: But your thoughts are nothing except hallucination! < 1305092561 957470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PORK < 1305092567 584673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: PORK PORK PORK < 1305092568 754653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PORK < 1305092570 99361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PORK PORK < 1305092573 428239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PORK PORK PORK PORK PORK PORK PORK < 1305092574 98085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PORK < 1305092576 725031 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ... Wut? < 1305092583 38868 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: PORK < 1305092614 75168 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you can only be sure of those phenomena which are identical to their own illusion, which however includes many experiences < 1305092628 993827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must say < 1305092629 424903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<zzo38> pikhq_: But your thoughts are nothing except hallucination! < 1305092630 225857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :amused me :D < 1305092641 584809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Your hallucinations are all in your mind! And your mind is a hallucination!" < 1305092651 95161 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the _causes_ of those experiences, but the experiences themselves) < 1305092687 433996 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is why cogito ergo sum is some approximation to valid < 1305092723 776276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cogito ergo sum is impressive in being one of the few things that just about everyone can agree with :) < 1305092750 962025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the original surroundings of that statement, not so much) < 1305092781 367101 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The statement *itself* ends up being the only thing that is really certain. So of course almost everyone agrees. :P < 1305092811 921190 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything else is subject to fallible observation. < 1305092828 793339 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that you cannot be sure that your thoughts are actually logical, you could just be imagining it < 1305092841 621096 :comex!comex@c-67-188-10-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305092854 866194 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least you have them < 1305092880 652041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "ergo" part is probably the most controversial of that :) < 1305092886 452391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see: rejecting logic itself) < 1305092899 421310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, some asswipes will refuse to give "exists" a definition, but they're asswipes < 1305093005 116389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow < 1305093007 167043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my back < 1305093404 212221 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305093532 842675 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any spanish speakers? :D < 1305093548 323629 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or french speakers < 1305093549 363550 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :several hundred millions, i think < 1305093561 544050 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1305093584 66403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if ##linguistics exists :P < 1305093593 604974 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but they're all lame < 1305093655 348930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we're not < 1305093657 761944 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Afraid you're mostly finding Germanic speakers in here. < 1305093672 741747 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolly < 1305093677 446103 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian is good too tho! < 1305093679 19142 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or danish < 1305093692 989313 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: < 1305093724 809031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: troll him < 1305093731 32786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when he asks you how you pronounce something just lie < 1305093733 771500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be great < 1305093737 502432 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i dont need pronunciation < 1305093740 364166 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bork bork bork. < 1305093741 486025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well whatever < 1305093745 679525 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: thats swedish < 1305093752 356140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# (diff) (hist) . . 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(-102) . . 109.230.217.91 (Talk) (, http://theteresapalmerbikiniwve.tumblr.com teresa palmer bikini, 304793, http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZODZ7R4ZGQDA5CALTMKHXB4HJI/blog/articles/281424 emily procter naked, >:-)), http://jessicabielsexsc) < 1305093754 91635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:-) < 1305093759 717231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVIL SPAMBOT < 1305093761 802740 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Børk børk børk < 1305093763 198784 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better? < 1305093765 926957 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1305093983 184935 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to invent notation for cricket matches, and it is very complicated. < 1305094032 683950 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's cricket. < 1305094122 692230 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many fielding positions, extras, way to be out (lose a wicket), hit ball, bounce, scores, etc that you need different styles of type and accent mark, telling which player it is, and a lot of stuff, requiring accent mark, superscript, subscript, etc < 1305094133 919286 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: seier du det < 1305094168 286978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: gutten tag < 1305094194 317321 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: guten tag! < 1305094219 428048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: du ein lich fäthras < 1305094223 450486 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Snow showers before 9am, then rain showers between 9am and noon, then snow showers after noon. Some thunder is also possible." Forecast for tomorrow. < 1305094227 475184 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan you're swedish, right? < 1305094231 870660 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU, COLORADO < 1305094235 790361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote oerjan you're swedish, right? < 1305094238 607180 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​404) oerjan you're swedish, right? < 1305094240 155929 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1305094244 953235 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: nei eg er norsk < 1305094250 961827 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o ok < 1305094253 474569 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont remember who's who < 1305094261 77939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: verk immein Steinlichernbburgen < 1305094262 67774 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Ørjan Johansen is pretty clearly not Swedish. < 1305094269 184301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: volkgräd < 1305094279 987459 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Örjan Johansson would pretty clearly have been < 1305094307 170568 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian boys are hot, btw < 1305094308 835688 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sayin < 1305094312 114184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1305094313 179227 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh, augur, how dare you not remember every detail of everyone's lives in here! :P < 1305094314 400899 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whats your opinion on SATW < 1305094322 674292 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: because you're not all oklopol < 1305094333 327116 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might have an opinion if i knew what it was, although probably not < 1305094344 329176 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scandinavia and the World < 1305094345 830200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just sitting here laughing :)))))))))) < 1305094346 219966 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a web comic < 1305094371 590084 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, no opinion there < 1305094395 151552 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that the rest of the world _might_ suck even worse. maybe. < 1305094429 946304 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1305094434 855366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what? < 1305094450 212045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel, btw. this channel. < 1305094454 199917 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1305094470 58269 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh those guys < 1305094568 66184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOD DAMMIT HOMESTUCK UPDATE < 1305094568 859276 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that last one was a bit amusing < 1305094972 660698 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which last one < 1305094984 787300 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um the last one < 1305095001 799015 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also the first one i looked at) < 1305095014 254963 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1305095018 243647 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one about weirdo icelanders < 1305095029 110945 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there have been reddit links before, naturally < 1305095291 574588 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had this dream that i was a bald cop < 1305095380 652123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are < 1305095399 761032 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :last night i had a dream where i cuddled with this older lady and then in the morning her husband was pretty mad and took out a gun and then she numbed herself with some sort of injection and stuck a huge pipe in her mouth and drank water through it until she became a human size water bottle and exploded, destroying everything in sight < 1305095402 942171 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1305095422 343985 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let that be a lesson for you < 1305095425 409976 :Cheery!~cheery@a88-113-50-171.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1305095455 615844 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(she became an actual water bottle) < 1305095530 848634 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i woke up and turned out i had been sleep destroying my apartment, everything was broken and scattered all over and the door was open and i couldn't close it and then i woke up again < 1305095553 209888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol can you turn your dreams into a film < 1305095558 563415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would be the best film < 1305095615 2802 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or make a book < 1305095627 646328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1305095629 239829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :film < 1305095649 249496 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can make film. < 1305095668 965108 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do have some book making hopes and dreams, but the book would not be about my hopes/dreams < 1305095671 272987 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for my dreams, it is strange often is the case it cannot be made proper film, you need book (at least at first) < 1305095699 963717 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how many times out of ten would you say you fail to make the film and have to write a book instead? < 1305095721 21024 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://satwcomic.com/how-to-keep-friends < 1305095723 613556 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol! :D < 1305095727 658286 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so finish < 1305095728 424190 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :meeeeeeeeee! < 1305095740 257291 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so start < 1305095748 102766 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Five < 1305095759 247029 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe six. < 1305095791 278233 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally finished < 1305095820 688765 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's satw < 1305095827 676230 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I have never made the film or the book of it, so not entirely sure < 1305095871 389749 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was trying to ask about the actual films and books you've made but apparently i failed < 1305095888 241546 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should've used past tense < 1305095934 383931 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was walking outside and suddenly this guy grabs my hand and yells "SODOM" < 1305096006 849687 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of things about my dreams I failed to remember by now, unfortunately; but I did write down and type some of these things. < 1305096008 573743 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i said let me give that some thought and his girlfriend found it very funny and then i bought this "learn the alphabet" game and it was a bit silly given that it was completely deterministic < 1305096090 358333 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: forgetting dreams is a sign of alzheimer's < 1305096109 669390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also racism < 1305096122 775317 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and small penius < 1305096458 708139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1305097881 345234 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey nice, elliott's been trolling me again < 1305097885 494802 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how cute < 1305097899 288653 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really admire the fact i'm such a kiln of emotion for him < 1305097996 279988 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :making a kil'n < 1305098089 217354 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :he cares so much about me that at this rate anyone would start wondering if he's secretly in love with me or something < 1305098099 594545 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe subconsciously? :D < 1305098125 329295 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it's _i_ who keep getting marriage proposals from him < 1305098146 367626 :calamari_!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1305098148 725528 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but you know, every girl needs a husband and a *lover* < 1305098172 790736 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :one to take care of the kids, the other to really put some heat in the love-life < 1305098188 45245 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you're good at the heat thing it seems < 1305098200 684298 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :our theories converge < 1305098209 777981 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm scared to go on. < 1305098219 151754 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we might uncover something we couldn't fathom. < 1305098244 63902 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, ready? < 1305098257 157777 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely not < 1305098262 684733 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, so what was your german language problemo? < 1305098305 14644 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater666: i think he pretty much excluded german < 1305098318 100591 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater666: i got some german data :) < 1305098319 845184 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you tho! < 1305098354 255874 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1305098421 430420 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1305098424 3184 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1305098444 639588 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong window < 1305098753 81417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has too many window < 1305098753 248529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1305099195 526946 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :To tell you why you cannot make a filmn of this dreams: Can a blank paper have words written on it (such as that is visible, not invisible ink or anything like that) but still remain blank at the same time? < 1305099299 464431 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to be flying and not flying both at the same time? < 1305099474 670012 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dreams are sometimes not first person < 1305099492 142789 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1305099492 296482 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And someone once told me they had a dream that ended in credits < 1305099496 853583 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1305099500 40113 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's amazing < 1305099503 740111 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you can make a film ending in credits, too. But not these other things too < 1305099509 584827 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time I had a dream in second person < 1305099512 334219 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was great < 1305099533 985511 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a few where the person changed a bunch < 1305099534 353271 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I have too but I remember no other details < 1305099599 353201 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like self-contradictory dreams. good stuff. < 1305099644 15495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's vortex math < 1305099650 452093 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone told me he had a dream where the doctor asked him if he had ever been to the moon. He had never been to the moon. The doctor then asked him to prove it, and that the doctor could not help him if he could never prove that he has not been to the moon. < 1305099666 448819 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I have also self-contradictory dreams (often at least part of it is as such) < 1305099733 884951 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup < 1305099758 825236 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fresh as in in my memory < 1305099771 892300 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not original or anything < 1305099849 843006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup < 1305099853 141823 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​405) my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup < 1305099909 380299 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember one dream I had once there was a small hole in the floor that was appear and disappear rapidly, too small for anyone to fall into but we are still careful not to fall in the hole because apparently you can fall into the hole anyways < 1305100058 92979 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had another where I ran around the world (which is concave by the way) a few times, but then it started storming while I was at a beach, so I went into this tall blue building that had an elevator with a phone in it, and as I was taking the elevator, my parents called me and tried to convince me I was on drugs. < 1305100098 805909 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another dream, we tried to fill the water container in fridge, when it was closed and open again, now there is orange pieces in it. That is no good; discard it and fill the water again. Now close, open and now there is no water, just bread. < 1305100132 123004 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it mean something < 1305100330 900135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means bread < 1305100341 6572 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I had dream I tried to turn off the calculator, but it turns back on by itself in a few seconds or in a few minutes. < 1305100387 686508 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dream where I have a tradition of watching a bootleg garfield vhs where if I play it at midnight it's actually a recording of a television playing a garfield puppet show about human anatomy < 1305100508 992068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1305100649 652323 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had a dream where people weren't making things up < 1305100700 279097 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever had that dream. < 1305100728 3804 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's very visibly extreme make-believe < 1305100741 21809 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When dreaming, not only memory, but the very logic is differently............!?......... < 1305100763 441199 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone wrote in an article once you can't read in your dreams < 1305100776 209060 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that part of the brain isn't active < 1305100785 658169 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember reading a newspaper in a dream though < 1305100791 56904 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so obviously it's incorrect < 1305100795 447523 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you were only pretending to read < 1305100809 482440 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually you cannot read in dreams, sometimes it is possible. But also sometimes it is faked because it is not even what it is! < 1305100815 593853 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or magically interpreted the newspaper < 1305100834 502442 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you cannot actually read (or other things), because it is dream and they are not real papers, real words, etc < 1305100841 841670 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think lots of stuff is faked in my dreams :( < 1305100888 365961 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in one of my dreams there was a telephone and when I tried calling on it, it was actually irc < 1305100974 232856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1305100975 830916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hello irc" < 1305100978 429540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this is monqy" < 1305100983 108343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :< "please hold the line" < 1305101164 617605 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a dream where we were going to play Dungeons and Dragons and we had radio machines and stuff for Dungeons and Dragons. There was different sections in different chapters, a compartment to put audio tapes in, a radio transmitter, a few rooms for puzzlement and some boxes on the bottom to keep creature types in. < 1305101193 123331 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was unable to figure out why it didn't work. And then I realized that it needed electricity to keep the creature types in the boxes, so I put batteries in and then the machine(s) worked. It also had to be connected to a VCR, but the only reason for the VCR was to indicate the amplitudes. The VCR was connected to a TV. The TV had no use, neither did the audio tape compartments. < 1305101515 86519 :siracusa!~siracusa@p54ACEB75.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305101594 472761 :siracusa!~siracusa@p54ACF957.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305102009 25227 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1305102134 678089 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: See you < 1305103397 872992 :cheater_!~cheater@p5099e3f2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1305105086 41516 :nooga!nooga@jasminek.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1305105474 507476 :nooga!nooga@156.17.4.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305106261 259410 :nooga!nooga@156.17.4.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305113617 791687 :liljat!~lilja@213.55.76.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305114203 500233 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1305114945 457006 :Slush-!~Slush-@s83-177-28-44.cust.tele2.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305117453 498674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305117772 950839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi tarski < 1305117879 106622 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305117891 130248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1305117892 750358 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1305119653 492133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305120066 310486 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305120236 259869 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305120897 861354 :lilja1!~lilja@213.55.76.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305120976 155174 :liljat!~lilja@213.55.76.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1305121127 652915 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@d83-183-228-76.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1305121131 518799 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@d83-183-228-76.cust.tele2.se QUIT :Changing host < 1305121131 595440 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1305123799 178049 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305123862 222101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1305123867 216505 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305123915 497651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305123936 548128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the lambdahaps my friends. < 1305123936 665072 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1305124281 661364 :cheater_!~cheater@p5099e3f2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup Phantom_Hoover :3 < 1305124394 208044 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover lol we ♥ leaving you messages < 1305124394 324375 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1305124459 304973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott I cleared my MemoServ inbox, you idiot, < 1305124459 381892 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1305124482 72019 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott s/,$/./ < 1305124482 149050 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1305124808 341795 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, my wireless router turns itself back on after I try to turn it off sometime < 1305124809 365519 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1305124897 906004 :cheater_!~cheater@p5099e3f2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: make sure not to equip it with a robot body of superhuman abilities. it might be the beginnings of skynet. < 1305124961 92266 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot I'll bet you have craploads of unread messages to yourself. < 1305124961 169061 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1305124965 767828 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snaps* < 1305125542 179673 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1305126411 818308 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1305126996 58729 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305127250 374290 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1305127308 75686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305127381 854846 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you might want to check out Special:New pages, there are a number of undeleted spam creations, especially in the User: and User Talk: namespaces < 1305127415 798020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks < 1305127417 569970 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly there seems to be no way to list all namespaces simultaneously there < 1305127435 451380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Sodium-3D.png < 1305127435 528438 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1305127436 927269 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1305127462 638409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that we missed during the recent spam attack? < 1305127493 455777 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1305127569 538879 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: iirc most are in the first few namespaces but i _think_ i saw one in Category Talk: < 1305127752 740741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: got all of them, I think < 1305127758 136365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there was indeed one in category talk < 1305127825 799911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it seems the source code for a common malware/trojan suite leaked < 1305127834 68266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lots of people downloaded it and their virus scanners detected it as what it actually was < 1305127846 560343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure what the moral of the story is < 1305127856 387301 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1305128024 835703 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so did you find a way to block the spam or did it just stop by itself? < 1305128090 62499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I emailed graue, and suggested he added a CAPTCHA for all anon edits < 1305128097 719961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard a response, but the spam stopped soon after < 1305128101 843607 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there wasn't already? ok. < 1305128102 930921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might have been a coincidence, though < 1305128123 900744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a CAPTCHA on edits that added external links before, which kept out the majority of confused spambots < 1305128130 560290 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1305128137 509596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it just lead to a flood of moronic spambots that didn't even spam links < 1305128162 722744 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if they spam links just in a field we cannot see... < 1305128188 976584 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, maybe it would be an idea to block any edit which fills in an unknown field < 1305128257 415050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't implement that myself, though, I don't have the sort of access rights required < 1305128277 593425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all I can really do is the basic admin actions, protect/delete/block < 1305128278 201158 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1305128319 472036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and editing permanently protected pages < 1305128361 569679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which we don't have many of, but there are some that hold things like the names of the tabs at the top of the pages < 1305128366 850045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and other such things that shouldn't be widely editable < 1305128498 846465 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabotch What about craploads of messages to slightly mistyped nicks, then? < 1305128498 923422 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1305128502 549243 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ^ < 1305128536 186368 :lilja1!~lilja@213.55.76.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1305128546 773687 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hyuk < 1305128552 734232 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lambdabotch" = lols < 1305128921 775490 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305131106 609889 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305131145 805633 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant or Vorpal around? I haz a Mycology question < 1305131145 882579 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1305131176 28089 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less < 1305131210 817508 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Deewiant. < 1305131215 513751 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yello < 1305131226 841020 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you give me any insight into what this message is the result of: "u with a positive argument gives strange storage offset: expected (0,0)"? < 1305131256 256506 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it actually p'ing and g'ing to see if the storage offset has been changed, for example? < 1305131272 454511 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... something else? < 1305131285 234327 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it just uses u to fetch the storage offset that { pushed and compares it to (0,0) < 1305131296 664251 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, hm. OK. < 1305131329 109431 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's quite possibly indicative of a problem with { rather than u -- that's probably what I was missing. < 1305131332 103348 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! < 1305131359 887323 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye, u by itself can't produce the storage offset from nowhere :-) < 1305131473 948892 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right :) < 1305132086 532470 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in fact it does seem like it's u that's broken... < 1305132240 401090 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y U BRAKE U < 1305132380 519761 :Mannerisk!~mannerisk@71-38-32-217.frgo.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305132458 247702 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Deewiant or Vorpal around? I haz a Mycology question <-- Kind of < 1305132731 107412 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305133001 253692 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Deewiant already answered it :) < 1305133148 400710 :ajf|offline!~~ajf@78.129.159.151 NICK :ajf < 1305133193 585088 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, yes I saw < 1305133269 415016 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp slashes < 1305133269 848871 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter slashes deleted. < 1305133295 285745 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp slashes perl http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/slashes/ircslashes.pl < 1305133298 258388 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter slashes installed. < 1305133471 56848 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: gedit highlights what it thinks is a syntax error in that script, btw < 1305133477 667986 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1305133485 914412 :ajf!~~ajf@78.129.159.151 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1305133540 413122 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think gedit is just not smart enough to understand the regexp, upon closer examination < 1305133551 568887 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1305133552 115201 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the 2nd regexp) < 1305133586 659387 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, both of them. it probably doesn't highlight s!!! properly. < 1305133599 918355 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1305133929 647476 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, stupid editor < 1305133937 665992 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :gedit generally is I mean < 1305133958 823233 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!slashes http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/slashes/test.sss < 1305133959 739170 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least kate is somewhat better at syntax highlighting, and emacs is of course better still < 1305133960 763274 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​* ** *** **** ***** ****** ******* ******** ********* ********** *********** ************ ************* ************** *************** **************** ***************** ****************** ******************* ******************** ********************* ********************** *********************** ************************ ************************* ************************** *************************** **************************** ***************************** < 1305134015 442788 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emacs' perl-mode isn't very good at all when it comes to complicated pieces of perl; cperl-mode is better, but even that breaks down every now and then. (I don't think it loses much to Vim or such, though.) < 1305134043 488428 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think perl-mode even does included POD comments at all, for example. < 1305134075 113841 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, it did do that. < 1305134088 330618 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something else didn't, and then it highlighted all keywords inside them. < 1305134100 487841 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is pretty much a challenge to syntax-highlight correctly. < 1305134109 533021 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was that SciTE thing. < 1305134124 101798 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I used it because it had a reasonable .pdf syntax-highlighting export thing.) < 1305134132 855265 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still use it < 1305134138 659648 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because... no reason < 1305134170 997346 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :scite isn't that bad at all if you need something that happens to be installed on the windows computers at university :D < 1305134182 480425 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there is a severe lack of emacs there) < 1305134188 922200 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least the version I have here does seem to understand poddery; it even makes headings foldable and all. < 1305134200 788729 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might've been an earlier version though, this was few years back. < 1305134214 768730 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, Windows availability was a big part of the reason I started using scite < 1305134358 120968 :cpressey!~cpressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I am at a loss for this problem with { and/or u. My own tests seem to indicate they work as expected. < 1305134359 55082 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, it's the "foo(< it is from 2002 though, I was younger then < 1305145584 322325 :siracusa!~siracusa@p54ACF957.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1305145584 404425 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scodil says: dcoutts: rad. i'm actually using gtk2hs quite a bit now. its one of those deals where I'm writing prototype software for people who aren't really paying for it, so it will end up being < 1305145584 485714 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the production software, so you'll probably be getting emails in 5 years asking "what is haskell and how do I install it?" < 1305145606 302717 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1305145606 384926 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyeris says: grr... I hate the way every haskell tutorial brags about how easy strings are to use. They are only easy once you drink the koolaid. < 1305145662 409171 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote < 1305145662 491041 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : says: do you like turing complete? < 1305145670 562420 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These quotes suck. < 1305145688 398217 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest we move HackEgo's entire database across to these poor unfortunates < 1305145768 758755 :siracusa!~siracusa@p54ACF957.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote sucks < 1305145768 877651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin says: [about learning Haskell compared to other languages] I learned X in Y time, but Z is taking much longer. Z sucks! < 1305146226 646723 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1305146233 183134 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it with nutjobs and awful website formatting. < 1305146279 645444 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.timecube.com/ < 1305146300 7864 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :always good < 1305146356 934335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1305146430 391391 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vortex math website is a bit better formatwise < 1305146555 60330 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it with Reddit and sticking *everything* on imgur? < 1305146561 490820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imgur was made by a redditor < 1305146561 572846 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1305146591 233518 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a goddamn webpage. Did you know that you can link to those as well as imgur? < 1305146595 75094 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't reddit. should I reddit? < 1305146595 614017 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, any news on the system spec < 1305146618 793986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: No. < 1305146632 48279 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit fornever < 1305146636 154785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I've been really busy, sorry. You might want to just go ahead and buy something; you can replace components incrementally, after all, in the long run. < 1305146644 377999 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1305146698 250748 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah I guess I will have to, but I actually will be really busy until Sunday (that is: [today,Sunday), that is, a semi-closed interval), so you have some more time. < 1305146835 855834 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what I was talking about in that 2002 comment < 1305146867 457199 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I would search logs for you, but they are not on this system < 1305146876 172470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner wasn't here in 2002. < 1305146893 788069 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ​347) it is from 2002 though, I was younger then < 1305146907 194909 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it was a discussion about something from 2002 < 1305146917 535146 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(perhaps some software he wrote or something?) < 1305146925 886437 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure I have all the logs laying around somewhere < 1305146930 926160 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but meh < 1305146954 56206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:43:26: wtf, my boot loader/os project has a CVS dir that points to a cvsroot with a windows path < 1305146989 70560 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the topic is from the spambots right? are those things still going? < 1305146996 461853 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, CVS. On Windows. < 1305147030 953918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were younger then. < 1305147050 111763 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but only by about 9 years. should've known better really < 1305147568 336883 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1305147581 950565 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1305147592 841749 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : olsner wasn't here in 2002. < 1305147593 106655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal quits? < 1305147613 254068 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The channel didn't exist in 2002 beyond fizzie, surely? < 1305147620 96647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it did... and what? < 1305147622 334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie isn't the founder. < 1305147647 237413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was just fizzie talking to all the alternate fizzies. < 1305147655 624618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, what's Gregor's old hg log URL? < 1305147660 727133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to clone it to get fizzie's two thousand and two logs. < 1305147740 929993 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1305147942 939684 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1305149044 212098 :FIXME_nddrylliog!~nddryllio@62-220-135-219.dhcp.fixme.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1305149439 105171 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1305149567 940212 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1305149568 103748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1305149858 770542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just made the mistake of reading the comments thread of a r/worldnews link critical of Israel. < 1305149864 885919 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel... besmirched. < 1305149914 193907 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be YOUR smirch. < 1305150006 619683 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically I'm not even sure about that colony on Mars any more. < 1305150036 326133 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much more of this and I will lose faith not only in humanity but in all sentient life. < 1305150213 861737 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305150214 396877 :16WAAFGFK!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1305150247 154032 :16WAAFGFK!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1305150337 234750 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at Gambit < 1305150367 270306 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks < 1305150431 849219 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Schemes don't suck? < 1305150436 887869 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^not rhetorical < 1305150473 78114 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one you write < 1305150496 105293 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does not feel like writing a Scheme at the present moment < 1305150498 454926 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just using one < 1305150544 492346 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, but you could impress IT-AT! < 1305150910 462794 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, no such person < 1305150949 196586 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I am sorry who is the Creator Of Star Wars Acronyms For Sgeo's Love Interests here. < 1305150968 702843 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sgeo's Love Interests" is an awfully verbose way of saying "females". < 1305150983 654243 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well, could you key me in to who "IT-AT" is referring to, then? < 1305151000 295451 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to know all the programs to get a job. < 1305151003 650433 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, well yes but as near we can tell he's never flirted with his stepmother. < 1305151021 171801 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you make a Scheme, it will be bad for her; it'll be YET ANOTHER program she needs to know to get a job! < 1305151026 768463 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT A THOUGHT I NEEDED < 1305151027 829226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVER < 1305151649 611502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305151925 275952 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Cannot join #esoteric-minecraft (You are banned). < 1305151932 642 :cheater666!~cheater22@ip-80-226-46-15.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOooooooooOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo < 1305152045 589407 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Appeal to PH. < 1305153469 658098 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 tests down, 2 to go! < 1305153498 233485 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you fit all those in before the rapture < 1305153519 235689 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1305153523 118394 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure < 1305153532 857654 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're on the 16th and 17th. < 1305153538 987081 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-183-217.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well before the predicted rapture. < 1305153551 805104 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent. < 1305153636 248484 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1305153885 945514 :siracusa!~siracusa@p54ACF957.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When is the rapture predicted for? < 1305153956 93492 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305154020 875348 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :siracusa: Twenty-first. < 1305154038 989848 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's OK, because we have After the Rapture Pet Care. < 1305154059 206296 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whose site appears to be sadly down, probably because of Satan. < 1305154128 605881 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smiles at Chicken supporting SRFI-17 < 1305154150 188739 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a Scheme equivalent to Common Lisp's setf... I think) < 1305154257 811960 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can be done in like twenty lines Sgeo :) < 1305154289 515929 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't most SRFIs like that? Theoretically supportable in any comforming Scheme? < 1305154297 444183 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought SRFIs include code to implement < 1305154301 470737 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm just wrong? < 1305154321 676211 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure, but they don't all do things you can do in pure Scheme. < 1305154332 819773 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider string ports. < 1305154346 15310 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course you can't rebind the meaning of SET! in standard Scheme. < 1305154360 19134 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, or can you. < 1305154363 797883 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah: < 1305154364 217822 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :; Use the LET* syntax scope extension in Twobit to let this SET! macro < 1305154364 351257 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :; reference the old definition of SET! in the second clause. < 1305154365 966580 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-17/srfi-17-twobit.scm < 1305154482 862369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't get Scheme macros < 1305154516 298456 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not < 1305154519 454022 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're trivial < 1305154538 425961 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are Common Lisp macros < 1305154556 11139 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And? < 1305154561 573289 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme macros are hygienic. < 1305154564 40728 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common Lisp macros are not. < 1305154566 369056 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know either, but I don't know much of Common Lisp or Scheme anyways. < 1305154568 89266 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while since I read about Scheme macros < 1305154582 589248 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So safe usage of Common Lisp macros is very hard, and requires lots of tedious GENSYMing. < 1305154612 660683 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, < 1305154615 539297 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to map set! < 1305154615 620825 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric : The following article describes how to overload set! so we can do < 1305154615 621016 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (set! (if (< x y) x y) 3.1415) < 1305154615 621116 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric : We can even evaluate < 1305154615 621216 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (map (lambda (var val) (set! var val)) < 1305154616 26565 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (list x y z) (list 1 2 3)) < 1305154618 10415 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric : to change the values associated with the variables x, y and z. We can still use set! to mutate ordinary bindings as in (set! u (+ x y)). < 1305154621 96119 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://okmij.org/ftp/Scheme/macros.html#map-set < 1305154629 3614 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess you can override SET! portably. < 1305154632 316293 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they different from C macros? I think it is, but I don't actually know. < 1305154651 865444 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, they operate on ASTs, rather than tokens. < 1305154663 883410 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are ASTs? < 1305154692 123357 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abstract Syntax Trees. < 1305154720 303822 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, the AST of (+ 9 (/ 9 9)) is obtained by providing it as input on an appropriate port after calling the READ procedure. < 1305154744 273207 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a list whose CAR is the interned symbol with the name "+"; and those CDR is a list whose CAR is the number 9, and whose CDR is ... < 1305154817 464013 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I looked on Wikipedia the diagram helps, I think, and it also has a description which also describes it < 1305154847 517880 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Yes now I can understand < 1305154867 621266 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Fun fact -- quote can be implemented as a macro; it is not a primitive. < 1305154898 299761 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1305154906 234149 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in a defmacro style system. http://okmij.org/ftp/Scheme/quote-as-macro.txt < 1305154908 643996 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure about with syntax-rules. < 1305155213 459449 :elliott_!~elliott@91.104.253.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://okmij.org/ftp/Scheme/setf.txt oleg's scheme setf < 1305155248 87685 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pre-SRFI-17 < 1305155283 260650 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it works differently... it goes based on the name < 1305155292 734112 :Cheery!~cheery@a88-113-50-171.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1305156414 330848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1305157280 973011 :nddrylliog!~nddryllio@84-74-26-239.dclient.hispeed.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1305157876 964966 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1305157971 668408 :nddrylliog!~nddryllio@84-74-26-239.dclient.hispeed.ch PART #esoteric :"Leaving"