< 1304640006 612589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agora would never have been that sloppy < 1304640022 552078 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this is pretty standard < 1304640036 245990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still ridiculous, despite being standard < 1304640046 268909 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It gets more fun if they repeal that act < 1304640067 177519 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it un-amend the other act? < 1304640076 748835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they might do, as an act saying how to do a referendum on AV is a little irrelevant after the referendum's happened, and it doesn't give any provision for holding another one < 1304640086 357692 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blown up by the unamender < 1304640092 936520 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It has other stuff in it < 1304640095 825846 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't get repealed < 1304640101 485607 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus they wouldn't repeal it just because it does nothing < 1304640104 485287 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a silly reason < 1304640582 503048 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-146-21.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a country which doesn't even repeal laws just because it's impossible to know what the law actually said when copies of it still existed. :P < 1304641585 405923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha: the journalist here was interviewing a Lib Dem MP as to why the Liberals were doing so badly in this election < 1304641618 560918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he said, more or less, that it's the first time in 70 years the Liberals were trying to do an election while actually in government, and they didn't have a lot of practice < 1304641721 143957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) A constituency shall not have an area of more than 13,000 square kilometres. (2) A constituency does not have to comply with rule 2(1)(a) if— (a) it has an area of more than 12,000 square kilometres, and (b) the Boundary Commission concerned are satisfied that it is not reasonably possible for the constituency to comply with that rule. < 1304641733 862136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't (2)(a) completely redundant there? < 1304641761 310190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, I don't think constituencies with areas less than 12000 square kilometers are particularly worried about also having to have areas less than 13000 square kilometers < 1304641961 383275 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the one hand, a girl kissed me, not on the lips, but close < 1304641978 850512 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um since when is (1) and 2(1)(a) the same thing? < 1304641993 739269 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, it was TA-TK. And there was a smell of smoke. Then again, the bus was crowded, it might have been someone else. < 1304642012 917486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, good point < 1304642695 487597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how the hell did this law end up 287 pages long? < 1304642708 112862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can hardly be expected to learn all the laws, so as to be able to comply with them, if they're that long < 1304642729 124386 :another!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1304642732 886541 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/io failed < 1304642743 964169 :another!~variable@unaffiliated/variable NICK :variable < 1304642768 591057 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-32-232.resnet.ucsb.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1304642789 999211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, it seems that Birmingham overwhelmingly voted No in the AV referendum, despite my attempts < 1304642803 338679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we just have to hope that other parts of the country are saner, now, but I don't have much hope < 1304642852 983752 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1304642866 912706 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-146-21.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1304643045 806640 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :.bfjous < 1304643047 116590 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :.bfjout < 1304643048 576517 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :.bfjoust < 1304643053 535939 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust < 1304643054 209027 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1304643058 895521 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1304643073 124755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, see if you can beat slowpoke < 1304643170 570245 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hang on a sec < 1304643176 265957 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doubts I could beat slowpoke < 1304643222 512306 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def prefixes (Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?)S < 1304643222 721593 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ^def < 1304643227 891374 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def prefixes ul (Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?)S < 1304643228 80475 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1304643275 866599 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^addinterp prefixes underload (Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?)S < 1304643280 96376 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp prefixes underload (Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?)S < 1304643280 356205 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it considers the two possible cases < 1304643281 226080 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter prefixes installed. < 1304643286 202989 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1304643286 392027 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? < 1304643287 156210 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1304643287 416351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the AV thing Britain, or some other ... thing similar, such as UK, or what? < 1304643290 935744 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!prefixes < 1304643292 85691 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? < 1304643304 766353 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust (>+<) < 1304643305 722479 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1304643307 164061 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: UK. < 1304643313 601879 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust testing_something (>+<) < 1304643321 502999 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for variable_testing_something: 4.3 < 1304643321 761746 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Britain is an island. < 1304643372 218174 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 'echo \'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?\'' >bin/prefixes < 1304643372 598203 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i entered and was greeted with a cough and " thief." in there. < 1304643374 612972 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :'echo \'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?\'' >bin/prefixes < 1304643375 818153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, if you have a lot of time and want to lose faith in humanity: http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/102687/Electoral-reform-question-testing-full-report.pdf < 1304643387 667457 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1304643391 896545 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo \'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?\'' >bin/prefixes < 1304643392 85762 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thus the build broke. < 1304643393 497440 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643401 25937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: but the adjective of "UK" is "British", which is really confusing < 1304643404 825410 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/prefixes < 1304643405 425910 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, England could be said to have no parliament. < 1304643406 325277 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643409 575077 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes < 1304643411 74660 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643417 833712 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/prefixes < 1304643419 514455 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643430 133362 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1304643438 502472 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unlike the other constituent countries of the UK, it does not have a parliament of its very own.) < 1304643454 590788 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does % do in bfjoust? < 1304643456 240957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although most MPs in the UK parliament are elected by English people < 1304643473 624857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: there's a description on the wiki, http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust < 1304643488 568227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but basically, (a{b}c)%n = (a)*n b (c)*n < 1304643499 761201 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as an odd legal formality, England has a parliament which just makes laws for the entire UK. < 1304643503 39718 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking UK. < 1304643505 6326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the advantage of % is that it lets the brackets match correctly, as you can't have mismatched brackets < 1304643509 886756 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo \'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?\'' < 1304643510 130367 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it may assume that these cells are dead unless otherwise specified. what do you mean < 1304643511 446229 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643513 535948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: it's more complicated than that due to devolution < 1304643524 985570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UK government, some of the laws it makes affect the whole country, some affect only England and Wales < 1304643534 34208 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: s/makes laws/has the capacity to make laws/ < 1304643534 684662 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo \'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo \`, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?\'' < 1304643536 383512 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643536 572851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think there may be a few thing that are England-only, too < 1304643541 983146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: err, right, yes < 1304643544 123170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*few things < 1304643554 341913 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?' < 1304643556 42563 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? < 1304643580 130105 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UK has such a *fascinatingly* complicated system of government. < 1304643588 419389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: indeed < 1304643593 568670 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '\'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?\'' < 1304643595 478233 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643610 687100 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?" < 1304643612 516849 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643647 728321 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust (>)*8([-]>)*3[.++-*10]+[[]]<<>([]-) < 1304643647 917399 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some felt the sentence was long and they had to re-read it (often more < 1304643648 108133 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :than once) to be sure they had understood what it was asking and that < 1304643648 108227 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were marking the response they wished to. " < 1304643648 793749 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1304643653 3514 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust kk_1 (>)*8([-]>)*3[.++-*10]+[[]]<<>([]-) < 1304643656 363476 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for variable_kk_1: 1.0 < 1304643659 468914 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1304643667 272615 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1304643672 763055 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust kk_2 ([-]>)*3[.++-*10]+[[]]<<>([]-) < 1304643676 971234 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for variable_kk_2: 13.9 < 1304643700 149205 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides that he's being "elitist" and shuts up < 1304643800 505783 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone shouuld have made a website where people play with voting in both systems < 1304643801 80337 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Bot prefixes: fungot \^, HackEgo \`, EgoBot \!, lambdabot \@ or \?" < 1304643802 860134 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot \^, HackEgo `, EgoBot \!, lambdabot \@ or \? < 1304643814 359411 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates the term "elitist" < 1304643826 478261 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly as used in American politics. < 1304643833 457484 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HE WENT TO COLLEGE! THE ELITIST!" < 1304643844 896601 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo \`, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?'" < 1304643845 85891 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I WANT ONLY MORONS IN OFFICE!" < 1304643846 500952 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?' < 1304643856 425984 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo \`, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?'" >/bin/prefixes < 1304643858 185328 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643865 494954 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/prefixes < 1304643867 104445 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643872 5965 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes < 1304643873 452426 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643883 104360 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu < 1304643885 803977 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, questions for referrendums should probably be phrased so the lowest common denominator can understand them < 1304643890 362554 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/prefixes < 1304643891 892879 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643907 550901 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch bin/prefixes < 1304643908 962332 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643910 542001 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/prefixes < 1304643912 90565 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/prefixes < 1304643912 870888 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should strive to increase the lowest common denominator, then, shouldn't we? < 1304643926 904057 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d'oh < 1304643933 626962 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo \`, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?'" >bin/prefixes < 1304643935 55393 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643938 748586 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/prefixes < 1304643940 401998 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643944 507850 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes < 1304643946 117886 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643956 827441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading this whole report < 1304643961 688413 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/prefixes < 1304643963 536325 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?' < 1304643980 529295 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run prefixes 2&>1 < 1304643981 325509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the implication I get from it is that elections taken using AV would be decided essentially at random < 1304643982 234797 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304643991 293640 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run prefixes 2>&1 < 1304643992 683746 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/hackenv.18692/bin/prefixes: error while loading shared libraries: /tmp/hackenv.18692/bin/prefixes: invalid ELF header < 1304643999 614035 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1304644000 433912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the huge number of people misunderstanding the rules causing enough noise to swamp the signal from those who do < 1304644032 920055 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ... Dubious. < 1304644053 267182 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, it can't be any worse than the damned people who seem to fail at "Pick one of the following:". < 1304644062 767687 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, how the *hell* do you fail at that?) < 1304644066 167097 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '#!/bin/sh' | cat - bin/prefixes >bin/prefixes2 < 1304644067 918317 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304644072 716442 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/prefixes2 < 1304644074 198075 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/sh \ echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?' < 1304644093 81078 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/prefixes2 bin/prefixes < 1304644094 894613 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304644098 534388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: typically, the results we've been seeing so far is around 100 spoilt ballots out of about 20000 votes total < 1304644099 954759 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/prefixes < 1304644101 784488 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304644106 7158 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes < 1304644107 580337 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? < 1304644111 411731 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1304644131 521943 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Wow, Britons are much much smarter than Americans. < 1304644158 280154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, only about 30 of those are typically an attempt to vote for multiple candidates < 1304644165 378304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest were mostly rejected for being blank < 1304644175 877731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or for being too ambiguous to tell what they meant < 1304644184 146840 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Remember, the 2000 election came down to a debate over how to count poorly filled-out ballots. < 1304644212 505998 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whiiich was decided on the basis of "5 Republicans vs. 4 Democrats in the Supreme Court". < 1304644214 154967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the way ambiguous ballot resolution works in the UK, is that the counters put ballots that aren't clear-cut into a separate pile, and the candidates agree who they're votes for or if they're spoilt, with some sort of tiebreak if they can't) < 1304644247 71367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the candidates get to watch the count and can challenge the placement of any ballot if they want, although it seems unlikely anyone checks /all/ of them) < 1304644296 473715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if the election's close, the counters go over the piles again looking for miscounted votes, and they keep repeating it until the likely error becomes smaller than the difference in the votes; if there's only 4 votes in it or whatever, the counting can go to four or five rounds as everyone makes sure all the ballots are in the right piles) < 1304644377 720396 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seaside or AIDA/Web? < 1304644494 100247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the BNP came above the Liberal Democrats in one of the seats in Wales < 1304644507 804773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... makes no sense < 1304644517 817812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Labour won it, but that was inevitable given the seat in question) < 1304644614 159361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“No, that means that .... let me think this right..... it just means that if everyone in the UK put an X, it means they don’t want the UK .... let me read this again ... that means no, they don’t want the UK to adopt the ....it means no, you don’t want the UK to have it. Does that mean there would be no MPs then?” < 1304644685 438010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying to figure out why all the seats that have declared so far were held by Labour beforehand < 1304644691 82588 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sort of big coincidence? < 1304644703 621299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are Labour voters faster at counting? < 1304644712 451056 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1304644805 461530 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1304644826 981941 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1304644887 398176 :wareya_!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1304644889 169539 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1304644896 485003 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1304644938 13648 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1304645052 990703 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo \''test""`!'`' < 1304645054 560476 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1304645064 170455 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo \''test""`!'\' < 1304645065 879259 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :'test""`!' < 1304645160 320158 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1304645291 170009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how you apply to be on Electoral Commission focus groups? < 1304645327 637171 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a focused way < 1304645357 274762 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1304645935 985392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ooh, good news in Somerset, it seems that the vote count is 2:1 in favour of AV there, according to people watching the count < 1304645960 641048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*South Somerset < 1304645979 679982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the count's being done officially tomorrow, presumably some people couldn't resist starting to count it now < 1304646031 954868 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1304646059 252378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Birmingham is apparently overwhelmingly against AV, though < 1304646062 112004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though I voted in favour < 1304646124 396847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the animated election logo that the BBC uses is hilarious, because it shows a selection of constituencies as colored bars with who owns then, so it's nearly all red/blue/orange with one green bar because there's one Green Party MP < 1304646130 526347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it looks really out of place < 1304646206 409413 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't easy being green < 1304646221 828185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1304646244 171448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was shocked when it happened, mostly because I had no idea that there was a constitutency where the Greens could actually win < 1304646258 29565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were clearly targeting that specific constituency very strongly, though < 1304646282 673355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reasonably certain they scoured the whole country to find the constituency where they were most likely to be elected, then focused all their efforts there < 1304646303 951247 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1304646335 659446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's no coincidence that the Green Party MP who was actually elected also happened to be the leader < 1304646425 920830 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well shuffling "important" people into "safe" districts happens in norway too < 1304646450 588431 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes with a bit of protesting from the locals < 1304646556 429918 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although Venstre (no. Liberal democrats) who crashed in the last election managed to lose their party leader's seat but not a couple of the others < 1304646592 226455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: some bad news: apparently the bookies are offering odds of 1-16 on FPTP winning, although they do get election odds quite wrong sometimes < 1304646607 414160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the Greens didn't have any seats in the UK < 1304646611 164043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was a different sort of shuffling < 1304646624 4058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to shuffle someone into the seats most dangerous to the other parties, rather than safest for themselves < 1304646649 696371 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time Labour tried to shuffle someone into a really safe seat, the person who was there beforehand stood anyway as an independent and won, which is hilarious < 1304646649 971019 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1304646663 50076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that they liked the candidate in particular, rather than the party < 1304646842 774914 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1304646924 456356 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :endangering larger parties doesn't work for tiny parties in norway, the 4% cutoff for "evening out" means the larger parties get their seats anyhow while the tiny ones _must_ win a county seat < 1304646985 401186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the UK is FPTP at the moment, so the practical cutoff is 25% for a party other than the main 3, and only if the main 3 are tied < 1304646991 270566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it only has to manage it in one seat, not in the country as a whole < 1304647033 507141 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1304647730 555745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow are the SNP dominating < 1304647740 180530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Scotland, that is < 1304647749 685602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling that they wouldn't do awfully in England either, but they generally don't run there < 1304647752 214048 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :save nessie partie < 1304647754 753947 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*y < 1304650682 547898 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Our Green leader was elected in her own riding which was also the riding most likely to elect any green given the communities' (well-deserved, mind you) reputation for being 'hippy' < 1304650841 40242 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-245-159.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1304650942 54820 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-158-183.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1304652109 783192 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1304652112 775871 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1304652259 974716 :TeruFSX2!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1304652292 967179 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1304652294 153011 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1304652392 28460 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1304652598 940559 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm a canvas fro building HTML." < 1304652644 535390 :MDude!~fyrc@pa-67-234-85-66.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MSleep < 1304652889 398462 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-169-117.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1304653025 692739 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-169-117.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finally gets around to watching FLCL < 1304653038 592964 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-169-117.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I find myself singing along to the soundtrack. < 1304653051 770842 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-245-159.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1304653270 961930 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-169-117.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :♥ the pillows. < 1304653847 70867 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1304654002 776684 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a PART :#esoteric < 1304658726 516092 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1304658734 313479 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me know if you figure out what exactly is going on < 1304659114 20187 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-169-117.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably take me a while. < 1304659367 528782 :TeruFSX2!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1304659641 564840 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1304663887 553081 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-169-117.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1304663889 640613 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-170-247.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1304664892 875755 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-32-232.resnet.ucsb.edu QUIT :Quit: Tschau < 1304664953 462817 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1304665173 170930 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-170-247.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1304665189 837449 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-170-247.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1304665296 414495 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1304665664 18364 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1304665719 375881 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1304668360 172327 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1304668373 911362 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any activity in here? < 1304668456 945030 :cheater15!~cheater62@ip-80-226-226-211.vodafone-net.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1304668482 371821 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no such thing < 1304668573 164064 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been hoping to catch some good discussion in this channel. In the three times I've tried, nothing has been happening < 1304668619 639950 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is about the worst time of day < 1304668701 876579 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured < 1304668762 777840 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why yall in here then if nothing is going on. Ir is it just that common to be in a channel when its dead < 1304668775 433803 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or* < 1304668790 335315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is often dead, people normally idle until a conversation starts up < 1304668807 624549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to start one yourself is the surest way to get a conversation going, but you have to be quite good at conversing to get it to continue < 1304668813 752296 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you reccoment any interesting channels? < 1304668891 626338 :Slush-!~Slush-@s83-177-28-44.cust.tele2.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ObviosoXI: conversation here seems to take place at night (at my local time) < 1304668923 384018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's 9am for me at the moment, I've been up all night < 1304668940 412148 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 1:01AM here < 1304669009 237092 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1304669079 959891 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking recently about all the different models of civilizations history that I have heard before < 1304669180 970883 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course different people perscribe to different naratives of history < 1304669228 57446 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in my experience, people tend to hold onto the models of history they were primarily taught or raised believing < 1304669345 837233 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.70 QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1304669391 263017 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but aside from explaining how people have and deal with these models < 1304669423 720231 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of models or history and/or reality do you all subscribe to? < 1304669427 530562 :siracusa!~siracusa@p54ACF2BE.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1304669441 128302 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of* < 1304669517 621912 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wanted to throw that question out there incase any one cared to share < 1304669518 807871 :siracusa!~siracusa@p54ACF36C.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1304669666 435960 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what version of our human history are you fascinated by? < 1304669681 205112 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a better way to put it < 1304670021 378450 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g-night < 1304670024 358313 :ObviosoXI!473ba33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.59.163.63 PART :#esoteric < 1304670174 698189 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1304671872 582060 :pizearke!~pup@cpe-65-28-173-159.wi.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1304672652 423473 :cheater_!~cheater@p5099e3f2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : cheater: how do i shot web? well, first you need to get a bite from a radioactive tim berners-lee < 1304673710 164676 :pizearke!~pup@cpe-65-28-173-159.wi.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1304676041 574218 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric