< 1301789481 57263 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I think that 4-letter TLDs should be used for, is for special use, such as making .example into .xmpl and having the same purpose as .example has. < 1301789833 356559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ < 1301789898 362521 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????????????????????????????????? < 1301789923 713446 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@? < 1301789937 947409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes! @! < 1301789948 969679 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, as if < 1301789972 716436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what < 1301790009 474154 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saying you will never build @ or get someone to do it for you :) < 1301790060 468806 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anyone in here who knows cricket rules and has experience? < 1301790111 444788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i can't parse the precedence of that sentence < 1301790112 914880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :parenify plz < 1301790117 881983 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-47-197.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I told you the baseball rules in a british accent? < 1301790120 471178 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-47-197.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that work? < 1301790142 222948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Is anyone in here who knows cricket rules and has experience? What if I told you the baseball rules in a british accent? < 1301790144 397120 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: No, baseball is a different game. < 1301790145 429354 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :345) Is anyone in here who knows cricket rules and has experience? What if I told you the baseball rules in a british accent? < 1301790217 384704 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is someone said before that draws are common and I have some ideas that can make it less common without eliminating draws or changing much else, but someone with experience should answer me please. < 1301790252 936697 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this? http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:IRC&curid=2413&diff=21685&oldid=10846 < 1301790267 996413 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also this? http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:M-code < 1301790283 628523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tankre. < 1301790385 333694 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: bot spam, almost certainly < 1301790393 811621 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Have you ever told anyone baseball rules in a British accent? < 1301790425 902914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have < 1301790430 683401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's because I'm British < 1301790434 784852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's my natural accent < 1301790442 896321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I know most of the rules of cricket < 1301790463 731056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the reason draws are common are due to people running out of time for a match, due to people not getting out quickly enough and not declaring < 1301790471 614342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(either by mistake, or because it would make them lose) < 1301790481 14062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are alternative rules that avoid draws already for one-day matches < 1301790484 201517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they aren't used in full matches < 1301790501 531950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what kind of bot spams with hello world? < 1301790509 903092 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes I know that. However, I have some ideas to make draws a bit less common while still possible, such as making some changes to the world during the last half hour of play. < 1301790515 369741 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/world/rules/ < 1301790517 258187 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what was the ambiguouous part? < 1301790535 216560 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that you'll never (build @) or (get someone to do it(= build @) for you) < 1301790546 315896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: (never {build @ or get someone to do it for you}) vs. (or {never build @} {get someone to do it for you}) < 1301790549 641128 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't know but "catch sufficiently hello world" gives google hits < 1301790557 210230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that might be unfair, as as one side's bowling and one side's batting then, the rules change would affect the two sides differently < 1301790571 325515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | Catch sufficiently hello world. | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Qdeql +Sceql +SMETANA) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1301790646 633551 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :try { ... } catch (ex) { if (ex.sufficientlyHelloWorld()) { console.log("Hello, world!"); } } < 1301790829 337714 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes I can see that, but the idea I have was that there would be ways to make it end faster but that this might benefit both sides, and that it would then become a bit more difficult to continue until time up. Such as, during the last half hour of play (on the last day), any maiden automatically takes a wicket and the ball into designated areas earns double runs. Perhaps also these rules can be adjusted based on time wasting calculations < 1301790853 758557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :double runs is a much more minor bonus than maidens taking wickets automatically < 1301790862 933305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maidens are much more common than wickets < 1301790885 566734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps a straight *3 on runs might balance it, but it still probably wouldn't be completely balanced < 1301790988 231392 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cricket is like this game, if you didn't know it was old, you'd think it was a parody of something else < 1301790998 103230 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that might fix it a bit. < 1301791039 148694 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so well-made it is useless to try and parody it further. although i'm sure people must have tried. < 1301791047 524492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: how much ram does an ubuntu-for-genera vm require? < 1301791063 531651 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is that what it looks like to you? Maybe it might. How much of the rules do you know, oerjan? < 1301791091 655475 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now i'm going just by your long line above. < 1301791184 331083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, is blognomic any fun? < 1301791188 479528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you know how there are plenty of stereotypes about English gentlemen, who spend all day sipping tea and taking things slowly in immaculate and beautiful gardens? < 1301791191 899854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays < 1301791203 151776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cricket's like what you get if you try to apply all those to baseball simultaneously < 1301791211 910015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it varies a lot; this dynasty may be a good one, but it's too early to tell < 1301791217 861983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been boring for months, but I rejoined recently < 1301791220 141213 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nice summary < 1301791270 557666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :five-day cricket is probably the slowest-paced sport in existence < 1301791286 768604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Uh, Brockian Ultra-Cricket? < 1301791298 477825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's probably pretty fast-paced < 1301791306 635462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ultra Cricket < 1301791309 522092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1301791311 970027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ultra-Cricket < 1301791320 644076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I dunno, beating people might be really slow in the seventh dimension < 1301791388 478448 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ul-Tra Cricket. named by its mad scientist inventor Siad Ul-Tra. < 1301791427 708692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's not an understatement, anyway, to say that cricket games are intended to take five days, but often are drawn due to not being nearly finished by then < 1301791441 74292 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...right. < 1301791460 393672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i propose a new form of cricket < 1301791463 267516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zero-limit Cricket < 1301791467 850384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :teh game lasts until someone wins. no exceptions < 1301791483 386040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it was originally unlimited; the five-day limit was added due to people getting bored after a few weeks < 1301791487 675730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1301791509 339198 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can anyone get bored of cricket < 1301791522 363266 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, short of watching it i guess < 1301791522 546530 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: see? you cannot actually parody cricket. < 1301791528 952220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D < 1301791547 531096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we british. so durpy. < 1301791554 923008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the motto of britain) < 1301791564 667981 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long-form cricket is certainly slow, although it allows many possibilities to be played. It would certainly be very boring to people who prefer the short-forms or who do not understand cricket very well. < 1301791570 808314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("british nos, ita durpy") < 1301791576 993741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: for bonus points, many channels just show "extended highlights" of cricket, which is all the bits that they thought were interesting < 1301791582 430355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they typically last around twenty minutes < 1301791589 866933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a summary of the whole five-day matches < 1301791609 424547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1301791635 521779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey, why are /you/ laughing? aren't you British? < 1301791641 621793 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If the game lasts until someone wins, does that mean that there is no draws, and in case of tie you do the fifth and sixth innings? < 1301791643 298067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you forced to play cricket in school? < 1301791656 128316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ties are statistically incredibly unlikely < 1301791667 840070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: hey, why are /you/ laughing? aren't you British? < 1301791669 612177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after five days, and hundreds of runs, it would be quite a fluke for both sides to have exactly the same score < 1301791670 264710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's quite shameful < 1301791673 166574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : aren't you forced to play cricket in school? < 1301791674 358318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABSOLUTELY < 1301791678 600161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cricketulum < 1301791686 258280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's pretty easy, you don't do anything 95% of the time < 1301791690 506882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes < 1301791691 743676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at least if you're me, mess up the other 5% < 1301791699 44859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of innings can in fact exceed nine thousand < 1301791712 348449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was so bad at cricket that in the end they decided to make me be the scorekeeper rather than play on either team, at school < 1301791742 344151 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crickethulhu. the game where the players try to slow it down as much as possible, for obvious reasons. < 1301791746 531914 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know ties are unlikely. < 1301791772 433219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: bowlers have been fined for stalling, on occasion < 1301791779 463726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :real-life money, that is, not anything in-game < 1301791799 250343 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i am sure the penalties in crickethulhu would rather more severe. < 1301791802 818924 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*be < 1301792094 300573 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_occasionally_ some players on the winning team might survive, i guess. < 1301792125 620156 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If you try to slow it down as much as possible, there won't be a winning team, it will end in a draw. < 1301792126 27383 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :survive till the victory ceremony, anyhow < 1301792135 184750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: exactly < 1301792137 191136 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The penalties would be prohibiting slow-motion VCRs. And that you have to bet your fingers and ears if you run out of money. < 1301792173 932689 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crickethulhu draws are in the sense of "hung, drawn and quartered". < 1301792627 541798 :TLUL!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left JOIN :#esoteric < 1301792818 851055 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write down the rules. [1] If the batsman catches the ball (out handling the ball), you have to eat the ball. [2] If you hit a duck with anything, you lose instantly. [3] You do not stop due to the weather. If it is snow or lightning storm, you still have to continue playing in lightning storm. [4] No protective equipment is permitted. [5] Slow-motion VCRs are permitted until there is a stalling penalty, at which point they are prohibited for th < 1301792822 336550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but what about the slow-motion VCRs? < 1301792870 117906 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e rest of the match. [6] In case of draw, is hung, drawn and quartered. [7] In case of tie, the umpire is required to tie you up. [8] U mUST USING, propper, spellling/gram-er @all times!!!!!!!!!!! < 1301792880 612955 :sftp_!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301792884 404659 :TLUL!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left QUIT :Client Quit < 1301792908 677088 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1301792908 883291 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1301792917 62233 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1301792926 249681 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1301792929 321536 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1301792944 984638 :bsmntbombdood!~gavin@c-24-9-98-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1301792949 555066 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks logs < 1301792955 68080 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[9] You have to use heavier balls at the victory ceremony. < 1301792956 67548 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1301792974 257507 :bsmntbombdood!~gavin@c-24-9-98-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301793004 721308 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if that's supposed to be the crickethulhu rules then i don't think you have got the spirit of it at all < 1301793020 137728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think zzo38's just trying to make the game a little less boring < 1301793025 669800 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, it is not finish yet. You have to write the rest, too. < 1301793029 783614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pun cricket, or something < 1301793038 922372 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: cthulhu doesn't mess around which such chicken "penalties" < 1301793044 834700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but in the case of crickethulu, writing the rest wouldn't make sense < 1301793048 303380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as even reading it would make you go insane < 1301793057 477560 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm true < 1301793059 295515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, unless writing one of those things makes you become sane? < 1301793063 571171 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But some people in esolangs is already a bit insane in some ways, so you can write it. < 1301793067 633963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there would be a nice sort of symmetry to that < 1301793074 183160 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i wouldn't bet on that... < 1301793080 679713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: neither would I < 1301793089 576433 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do mean you. Not only me. Also you.) < 1301793206 245702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, og2 is going fast < 1301793260 218216 :strawman!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :Pollione < 1301793304 491114 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301793417 953710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you know how to boot Ubuntu 7.10 or similar versions in expert install mode? < 1301793444 681222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1301793453 863042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's okay, i just figured it out X-D < 1301793472 360081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Coming soon: Better ads in Google Mail." < 1301793474 60025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :golly gosh! < 1301793759 619144 :Pollione!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1301793784 106269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@@@http://sprunge.us/ZGMd@@@@@@@@ < 1301793804 369259 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay obfuscated url < 1301793810 856716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not /very/ obfuscated < 1301793814 63629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSVO obfuscate@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ < 1301793842 986542 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSFVO < 1301793879 952099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not safe for vixen oligarchies < 1301793902 945554 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obfuscated enough to confuse XChat >_> < 1301793926 550678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even rot13 would do taht < 1301793928 78089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that < 1301793940 929062 :Pollione!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301793947 674130 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhh, but that's substantially less obfuscation than rot13. < 1301793972 265296 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@@Hahahaha, you'll never unobfuscate this!@@@@@ < 1301793989 295450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I did it! Is the answer: "Unununun, lbh'yy arire haboshfpngr guvf!"? < 1301794013 761421 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haboshfpngr would be a nice name for an esolang < 1301794041 420508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fpng" has to be one of the heartiest sounds < 1301794049 340839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the p kind of nuclear-bombs the phonetics < 1301794070 431651 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, shfpngr is a consonant cluster to kill for < 1301794096 674334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how it's actually pronounceable without any vowels sneaking in < 1301794101 121970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has enough semivowels in that it's actually pronouncable < 1301794226 124249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr ubuntu < 1301794246 631443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because i'm using a US english system < 1301794249 514567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't mean my timezone is american < 1301794318 632594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1301794326 297835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's impossible to have the two, it seems < 1301794359 110444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, i'll fix the timezone post-installation < 1301794415 624033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels so quaint to disable shadow passwords < 1301794485 733067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re: that obfuscation, btw, if it made you gave up, I saved you some wasted time :P < 1301794781 276172 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the \linepenalty parameter of TeX misnamed? < 1301794860 239978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1301794886 977552 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was meant to be named bzspoiajsd, but that name's apparently illegal in Norway < 1301794950 795885 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why did Knuth call it \linepenalty? It is not a penalty value. < 1301795003 597459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's totally not something ais would say < 1301795005 641186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do with him < 1301795016 293592 :Pollione!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 NICK :copumpkin < 1301795017 604384 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1301795017 768278 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301795022 939539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think I was trying to do an impression of you, but not a very good one < 1301795033 229035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was closer to a bad oerjan < 1301795038 296754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except he'd have picked another country :D] < 1301795042 384942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\]$// < 1301795047 829556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: perhaps < 1301795056 749901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although Norway has rules on name legality, which is why I picked it < 1301795059 472940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh the random text reminds me of... olsner? cpressey? < 1301795069 753909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: doesn't sweden too, c.f. albin < 1301795079 596619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, perhaps that's what I was thinking of < 1301795087 888941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should rename that kid to "pronounced [ˈalbɪn]" < 1301795091 966778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the text wasn't random, I tried mashing my keyboard several times < 1301795093 169009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like lynard skynyrtrd < 1301795098 258384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until I got a sequence of letters I liked < 1301795101 642864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1301795106 239992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like rutian! < 1301795144 183020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :re that law: The law was enacted in 1982, primarily in order to prevent non-noble families from giving their children the names of noble families.. < 1301795147 824116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.\.$/./ < 1301795149 228118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally gross < 1301795180 246140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, Lynyrd Skynyrd have had so many lineup changes that the past members section on WP ensd with "also see: List of Lynyrd Skynyrd band members" < 1301795180 751536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ends < 1301795186 773992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lynyrd_Skynyrd_band_members < 1301795226 590354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1301795237 836080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, this is ridiculous: < 1301795239 340073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The title of the album (and its title track) is written by Mark Stephen Jones, Travis Meadows and Bud Tower. Lyrically, it appears to oppose all kinds of gun control, a notable change from the lyrical stance of the original Lynyrd Skynyrd fronted by Ronnie Van Zant, who many claim sang against handguns in the song Saturday Night Special. When one cites a line from "Saturday Night Special", Van Zant's position on gun control might seem unclear: < 1301795239 591329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why don't we dump em, people, to the bottom of the sea", with the subject of the sentence being "em", or handguns, which might also be interpreted as "Why don't we dump em people to the bottom of the sea", with the subject being em people (them people). [3] The potential ambiguity is resolved in the next line, "Before some fool come around here / Wanna shoot either you or me". Had Van Zant's subject of the previous line been "em people", then th < 1301795243 823369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e guns would still be accessible.]] < 1301795260 567148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just sort of gets more and more ridiculous then climaxes in that final sentence < 1301795355 301077 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it was meant to be named bzspoiajsd, but that name's apparently illegal in Norway <-- i don't know, our name laws have been considerably loosened in recent years. < 1301795364 140397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he was thinking of sweden < 1301795365 796709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1301795371 979710 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1301795376 46395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i should read techdirt more < 1301795378 629974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but besides, "recent years" < 1301795387 287099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it was recent when Knuth wrote TeX < 1301795414 910074 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean \linepenalty was supposed to be bzspoiajsd but they wanted to make sure the program was not illegal in Norway???? < 1301795436 957238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1301795439 668114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what we mean. < 1301795446 939766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: we may well be lying, though < 1301795455 489046 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't believe that..... < 1301795488 560754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok if you don't believe it or if you do believe it, in the end everybody has to be able to make up their own mind < 1301795514 580940 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have little idea what our name law does say these days < 1301795516 241071 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK < 1301795564 756093 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1301795785 575736 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzspoiajsd is probably illegal anyway, it's just too weird. < 1301795807 421643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I FIND THAT VERY OFFENSIVE < 1301795819 785186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides not to reveal that his name is actually Bzspoiajsd "Elliott" Hird for the time being < 1301795824 165342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many JERKS < 1301795825 332174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like OERJAN < 1301795852 644374 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also do not like that it should be disallow just because of too weird. They haveto make up more name so that not everyone has the same name!!! < 1301795867 605622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I also do not like that it should be disallow just because of too weird. They haveto make up more name so that not everyone has the same name!!! < 1301795870 580505 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :346) I also do not like that it should be disallow just because of too weird. They haveto make up more name so that not everyone has the same name!!! < 1301795883 720251 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are not allowed to give a child a first name that would be a considerable burden to it. the word "considerable" (vesentlig) was added in the recent liberalization. < 1301795903 980862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit, so much for Dicknose Hird < 1301795918 117484 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you cannot use a surname as a first name unless it's already traditionally a first name. < 1301795920 38974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUESS WE NEED THAT ABORTION AFTER ALL < 1301795925 812703 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if the child decide to change their own name afterward? What are laws about that? < 1301795931 580211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if we say this enough, the conservatives will get scared about the name law causing rampant abortion) < 1301795972 657183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does configuring language-pack-en-base normally take a long time? < 1301795991 467543 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, maybe they should get scared of the name laws (whether or not it causes abortion) < 1301795995 95724 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION clicks the actual law text < 1301796004 171403 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 QUIT :Quit: I wish I had something witty to put here... < 1301796019 371320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: language configuration often does take a while < 1301796023 245490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Smoking Everywhere] (4:43:09 PM): NO LIMIT < 1301796025 205420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[CX] (4:43:21 PM): awesome! < 1301796025 369796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ this was judged to actually change a contract < 1301796049 881222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO LIMIT constituted an acception of the previous offer to change the contract (a few lines saying "blah blah if I have your blessing"), "awesome!" was the agreement < 1301796050 725833 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@2001:4428:251:1:21f:16ff:fe68:a55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301796050 926492 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@2001:4428:251:1:21f:16ff:fe68:a55 QUIT :Changing host < 1301796051 91028 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1301796058 196723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, what's the word < 1301796060 689730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1301796064 155529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's been doing it for about 10 minutes < 1301796088 259643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it normally doesn't take /that/ long < 1301796098 721554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what's worrying me < 1301796101 705930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll restart the installation < 1301796124 232253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the VM is worryingly slow, anyway < 1301796154 98326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disables APIC on a hunch < 1301796247 95293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now the installer won't even start < 1301796324 622769 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :§3: Surnames held by more than 200 people in Norway can be changed to by anyone without consent. otherwise you need their consent or have a specific right to use it. < 1301796519 146414 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :A surname which _no one_ has, you can use unless (1) It's too similar to another, protected name (2) It's identical to a wellknown trademark or similar (3) Is or has been used as a first name, and is not traditionally also a surname. < 1301796527 476275 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*It is < 1301796532 552158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Albin Coca-Cola < 1301796546 720813 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisely < 1301796564 715615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, at least it stops parents giving their kids names like "Ørjan Johansen" < 1301796577 382139 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, true. (note: not actually true.) < 1301796589 824889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly I must start Johansen Enterprises < 1301796595 810832 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they have a list of what is traditionally a given name and surname? < 1301796605 316905 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Johansen is still the second most common surname in norway, iirc) < 1301796617 113000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are you like Joe Smith? < 1301796620 179334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so coooooooool < 1301796648 164178 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the central people register, is what the law refers to < 1301796680 324823 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, more like Gregor Smith < 1301796721 528094 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ørjan is no. 50 or so, unless i misremember) < 1301796736 685150 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Smith" is a common surname in Norway? :P < 1301796766 590022 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, or do you think that Gregor is like name #50 in England/America? < 1301796771 634741 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is a pretty broken assumption) < 1301796801 721942 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did report on my checks in the statistical name database on this channel previously... < 1301796844 65728 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: well i first thought "George" which is actually cognate to Ørjan, but then thought that has to be too common < 1301796855 221062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :georjan < 1301796862 884444 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're talking about #50 here, not #1. < 1301796877 509611 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rechecks < 1301796878 984849 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregory might be #50, Gregor can't be more than #15,000 in England or America. < 1301796884 364772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CMayhejY6P_D5QEQrAIY2AQyCHE0hnAwrr-0 < 1301796886 282311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : IT'S < 1301796888 81054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : HIS HAIR < 1301796890 731330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JUSTIN BIEBER < 1301796892 451719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STARTS FRIDAY < 1301796899 30259 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH A GANG FIGHT < 1301796924 286587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregory might be #50, Gregor can't be more than #15,000 in England or America. < 1301796925 331142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly? < 1301796926 325028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor is like < 1301796927 558916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a common name < 1301796929 866385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it < 1301796933 139784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1301796934 823218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it isn't < 1301796935 811802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird < 1301796936 473796 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: oh actually Ørjan is 152 < 1301796946 368495 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just remembered the "5" part :D < 1301796964 553175 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gregor" is effectively unheard of in the US, I can't speak for England. People assume I'm not American based on my name. < 1301796976 327268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i guess it's like < 1301796977 868013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :russian sounding < 1301796979 23640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like < 1301796982 141264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the first gregor i know < 1301796985 599677 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johansen is indeed #2 < 1301796986 10950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your name sounds so like < 1301796987 482169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor richards < 1301796990 563559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like a really common name < 1301797004 223732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like an optical illusion :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDfghjklup0[i]o;f'lp < 1301797043 845570 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smith is not _unheard_ of in norway, btw, our neighbors when i group up had that name, and there are the "Smith's friends"... < 1301797053 702132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Church numerals < 1301797072 413926 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smith is #244 < 1301797084 818962 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*grew up < 1301797086 634600 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find a /first name/ DB for USA. < 1301797123 982923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is pretty rare as a first name in the UK too < 1301797132 287423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MacGregor is a common surname, though < 1301797133 289604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ima call libc\x2Eso Mendel from now on < 1301797150 989994 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heredity: I invented it. That's right. Invented. < 1301797164 672216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why this vm is so slow < 1301797166 72694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes me very sad < 1301797169 717015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a porcubine < 1301797208 685665 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregory is #37. Gregor isn't in the top 300. I would be surprised if it's in the top 10,000. < 1301797235 497062 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the statistical page in english: http://www.ssb.no/english/subjects/00/navn_en/ < 1301797244 348553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear < 1301797245 310206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hugn < 1301797247 480486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on loading the floppy module < 1301797265 801833 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, it seems there are too few Gregors in the USA for the census to report it in its summary data < 1301797265 967021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if they cripple the open source version :D < 1301797346 500313 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are more Eldens, more Keneths who don't know how to spell, more Modestos, more Warners, more Andreases, more Rayfords :P < 1301797401 570263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the frekwensee Keneth? < 1301797404 323260 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh daaaamn! It's #7,153 < 1301797423 570746 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are more Gregoires X-D < 1301797425 840366 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the english page seems to be missing first names listed by frequency though < 1301797446 454156 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But less Gregersons (wtf first name) < 1301797479 339851 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knew a Greger back in the old home town. mad as a hatter. < 1301797490 826934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait oerjan has moved? < 1301797493 725453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so unoerjan :/ < 1301797502 265966 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, paranoid schizophrenia or something. < 1301797533 917379 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, i didn't know him as much as my parents did < 1301797601 719502 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Grega" wtf X-D < 1301797603 110141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DID YOU MOVE OERJAN < 1301797608 447473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: Greggsybob < 1301797616 984600 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because my home town doesn't have a university? < 1301797623 949671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: build one there? :/ < 1301797625 416316 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWWWW I WISH MY NAME WAS GREFRATH < 1301797632 927358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a pokemon < 1301797644 49214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its call would just be a distorted "grefrath" < 1301797660 303560 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :An old family name in the Richards family, Dodifer, doesn't appear :P < 1301797661 633527 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: are you saying _grefrath_ is more common than gregor? < 1301797668 624588 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, that one's less :P < 1301797680 861835 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm just staring at silly names :P < 1301797708 211565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT'S THE LEAST FREQUENT NAME < 1301797721 618856 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The artist formerly known as Prince < 1301797732 700656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Shwiuqeiêé'eakrtaqx (pronounced "Chan-ikwah") < 1301797739 406278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG RACISM < 1301797743 683434 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's like #15 < 1301797748 615990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1301797766 421936 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :♥ the "qx" btw :P < 1301797778 170377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a silent qx. < 1301798003 143965 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :§4 lists a lot of ways you can have a right to a surname, starting with your great great grandparents having had it, and including marriage, farm names and a lot of other minor cases. Adoption is not there but in §5. < 1301798086 470514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, newer closed source virtualbox is... kind of faster < 1301798095 342128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not < 1301798107 312370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also kind-of broken < 1301798113 329642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: howso? < 1301798132 562432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it does start with an oracle logo on bootup though, which I find repulsive :)) < 1301798151 633023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least on our NetHack TASing server, trying to poweroff hangs, force-quitting corrupts the disk image, and the kernel spouts all sorts of filesystem errors on reload < 1301798165 182424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: known bug with ext4 < 1301798170 469156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tells you to enable the host cache < 1301798174 391208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you start the VM < 1301798175 576234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for me < 1301798180 996827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ext3 < 1301798185 638567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe ext3 too < 1301798233 339420 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :§6 allows you to make the spelling of your surname less weird. Also to change the gender ending if it has one. (The latter isn't precisely common.) < 1301798266 149985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and again, virtualbox gets stuck on the < 1301798267 594979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXTREMELY < 1301798268 944662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIFFICULT < 1301798269 109087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TASK < 1301798271 387209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of loading the floppy module < 1301798308 171374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll install the EXACT VERSION vorpal used < 1301798446 560230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think i concur re kind of broken < 1301798455 262478 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :§7 allows you to combine two surnames with a hyphen. §8 prohibits using surnames as first names unless traditionally first names. §9 allows surnames to be used as middle names. §10 contains the prohibition agains adopting a name that could be a considerable burden, it actually says nothing about whether it's a child or not. < 1301798465 485539 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ^ §10 up there < 1301798486 829328 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "other strong reasons" < 1301798491 796073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION http://dlc.sun.com/virtualbox/3.2.6/ < 1301798507 435238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :karmic? that's the same thing as maverick! < 1301798511 650421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did lucid come after karmic < 1301798519 920200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, lucid is what i want < 1301798536 195080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so are you planning on updating to ubuntu 11.04? < 1301798548 431246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps; I didn't update to 10.10 < 1301798553 945614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may go LTS from now on < 1301798562 555825 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :§10 also prohibits changing your name more than every 10th year, except in certain cases like marriage or reversing a previous change < 1301798567 195295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Ubuntu's getting a worse attitude as time goes on < 1301798568 185685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the thing with 11.04 is that you get Unity, which is terrible < 1301798579 60996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it had the potential to be good, but last I checked, it's god-awful) < 1301798581 56581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully it'll be less terrible by release < 1301798582 576957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(literally unusable) < 1301798587 522834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's at beta already... < 1301798596 265691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this _is_ the month :P < 1301798605 132661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I've heard, the concept's decent, but the implementation is so inefficient it doesn't run on anything < 1301798615 781138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not about inefficiency, it's that it's basically a skeleton < 1301798620 649600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the application picker thing < 1301798624 984907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can type things and click things < 1301798630 817381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure pasting worked < 1301798635 566071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it felt really weird < 1301798643 685291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the way you can drag the icons on the left was just... weird and stupid and pointles < 1301798644 449556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1301798646 600236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1301798659 331293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: FWIW, I can vouch that Debian works flawlessly on your hardware (well, its big brother, but they're basically identical) < 1301798679 433222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, I'm just not sure if I want to go through the trouble of an OS reinstall < 1301798682 332132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Debian ~= older Ubuntu, with a tiny tweak to make PolicyKit use sudo < 1301798682 496129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than upgrade < 1301798691 769822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if upgrading will keep Gnome < 1301798692 748792 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sees a bug in §6: it doesn't consider the case of a gender _prefix_ like arabic ibn/bint < 1301798703 861826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OR A GENDER INFIX < 1301798754 201534 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although since that surname doesn't actually inherit as such, it should only apply to actual transgendering... < 1301798762 952963 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that surname form < 1301798802 735456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"transgendering", there's a word < 1301798832 632742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, googling suggest dan brown was the first to use it < 1301798834 476709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The act of tattooing one’s skin was a transformative declaration of power, an announcement to the world: I am in control of my own flesh. The intoxicating feeling of control derived from physical transformation had addicted millions to flesh-altering practices …. . . cosmetic surgery, body piercing, bodybuilding, and steroids . . . even bulimia and transgendering.]] < 1301798836 289953 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the change would probably be allowed by the other paragraphs in any case (that one in particular says that changing the gender doesn't count as a change at all for the rest of the law) < 1301798845 151151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has to the most bizarre paragraph i've read in a while < 1301798925 230437 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be going slightly off the deep there at the end < 1301798930 47879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, the version vorpal used seems to be no faster < 1301799029 366878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish the port of OpenGenera to linux sucked less, so it could be used directly < 1301799038 108392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it's genera itself that craps all over your config... < 1301799159 392525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: "maloader is a Mach-O (OSX) loader for Linux. It is already able to run the XCode toolchain on Linux. [repost from /r/linux]" < 1301799175 804090 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLY AWESOME < 1301799179 311568 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WANT < 1301799181 251645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: Clearly you must create (A,B)loader, parameterisable over executable format A and OS B. < 1301799188 314221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ONLY THEN WILL YOU RULE < 1301799191 338937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omfg < 1301799193 759255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: it's shinh's <3 < 1301799196 964364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shinh: the best???? < 1301799197 707463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE BEST < 1301799200 193781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/shinh/maloader < 1301799224 300362 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTW7Pd1vqc < 1301799225 779891 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Thankee < 1301799237 498607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: DON'T THANK ME, THANK SHINH < 1301799245 258936 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Thank you for the INFO < 1301799251 218301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: ALL THANKS GO TO SHINH < 1301799256 599525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTW7Pd1vqc < 1301799260 946088 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is shinh somebody I should know? :P < 1301799264 419626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ten seconds in, this already has more melody than the entire original < 1301799269 113392 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :§14 allows the government ("the King") to make appropriate special rules for foreigners (only wrt protected surnames) and norwegians abroad. < 1301799275 206428 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lol < 1301799281 36511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: shinh runs Anarchy Golf (http://golf.shinh.org/), implemented 64-bit support (and more) for tcc... < 1301799289 120995 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhkidokie < 1301799305 898318 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*foreigners in norway < 1301799359 766372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: this is much better than the original < 1301799376 377181 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm discovering that all of Bad Lip Reading's versions are better than the originals :P < 1301799408 516439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distinct chicken and fighting theme I see < 1301799469 609025 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :§16 says that if you already have two surnames with no hyphen, you can keep it that way. i presume that and §7 means you're no longer allowed to adopt two surnames without a hyphen. < 1301799510 586268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: The thing is that really, you only see their lips so often, so most of this is them just making up shit X-D < 1301799528 762172 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but still amusing :P < 1301799620 322042 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the rest of the law is just boring bureaucracy. < 1301799740 457647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fear that this VM will be ridiculously slow :( < 1301799858 209416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc\x2Eso: Great, now "ASIAN BABEH" is stuck in my head X_X < 1301799955 300748 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Quit: Can I get some monkey brains or mermaid? < 1301800048 863035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1301800122 461900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey augur what are you doing on my reddits < 1301800182 211287 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1301800195 382334 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something? < 1301800196 120587 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing? < 1301800264 150194 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil linguist plotting, probably < 1301800288 140375 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up now < 1301800305 245541 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the roof < 1301800323 728038 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whats happening with your reddits < 1301800328 229984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you're on them < 1301800332 564795 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1301800354 438729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1301800364 900015 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont follow < 1301800392 386259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOD DAMMIT KERNEL JUST INSTAL < 1301800394 298986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L < 1301800445 749698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: FIX IT < 1301800537 463061 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how am i on your reddits < 1301800545 854126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you are < 1301800551 791977 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how tho < 1301800627 21553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw your name < 1301800628 296965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats illegal < 1301800660 283235 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? where about? < 1301800703 898794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit < 1301800735 967314 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301800742 79752 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but where on reddit < 1301800779 839712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a comment page < 1301800801 1330 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301800806 457281 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which subreddit < 1301800811 284230 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, dont make me hurt you < 1301800823 530342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a... subreddit < 1301800824 983998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh < 1301800829 983460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :annoying you is difficult < 1301800838 700498 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHICH SUBREDDIT < 1301800852 583033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LA LA LA LA I CANT'T HEAR YOU < 1301800853 680907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*CAN'T < 1301800872 800705 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to assume the haskell subreddit < 1301800894 229247 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fails to see augur as having posted anything < 1301800897 237335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope :D < 1301800902 237399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was actually /r/politics < 1301800905 435701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you came #1 in best ranking and i was like < 1301800907 88707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i know that name < 1301800909 491355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that annoying fag < 1301800910 211136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1301800916 372499 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 in best ranking? < 1301800918 752135 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1301800919 941000 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1301800926 37747 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the arrested development picture < 1301800927 8484 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes ok < 1301800952 975242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ALWAYS WITH THE CHEAP KARMA THAT AUGUR < 1301800963 510441 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you know it! < 1301800967 630096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we /real/ #esoteric redditors, why, we contribute things of value, don't we ais523 < 1301800974 648237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and...er...oerjan < 1301800993 321886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: occasionally < 1301801027 710951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw did you see how grauenwolf replied to you? < 1301801029 615705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he got mad :D < 1301801156 988144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I did < 1301801222 940555 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301801237 628599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does anyone have a simple way to create a window of WxH size in X? < 1301801239 274833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be blank < 1301801523 23831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, pbmlife(1) :D < 1301801595 331048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, Multics' `calendar`'s source was ugl < 1301801596 487570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ugly < 1301801686 462521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it has -flags < 1301801690 267452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so -flags don't originate from unix < 1301801694 727330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, Multics' were multiple-word < 1301801699 745661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also had abbreviations < 1301801704 798343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-julian == -jul < 1301801707 333700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-date D == -dt D < 1301801712 6873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: GNU didn't invent GNU long options :D < 1301801740 984637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they invent the -- convention? < 1301801745 734810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, probably < 1301801762 760575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this program seems to date back to 1972/1973 < 1301801769 152973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a huge mess of PL/I: http://multicians.org/calendar.html < 1301801778 296589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if the indentation just got messed up or whether it was really that awful < 1301801784 62177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if ec ^= 0 then /* Ought to be an error, but might be old syntax. */ < 1301801784 972769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if an = 1 then goto try_date; < 1301801785 138317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : else goto arg_value_error; < 1301801785 138486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : call hcs_$initiate_count(if_data.if(i).dn,if_data.if(i).en,"",if_data.if(i).bitc,1, < 1301801785 138591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if_data.if(i).ifptr,ec); < 1301801785 138729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if if_data.if(i).ifptr = null then /* Ought to be an error, but ... */ < 1301801786 568832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if an = 1 then /* .. check for old syntax. */ < 1301801788 687163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : do; < 1301801820 287036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they sure as hell had no 80 column rule :D < 1301802193 145178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:10:02 you know how toilet paper comes from those weird boxes in public shitting places < 1301802194 348394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:10:14 oklopol: Thus far it's not sounding like a love story. < 1301802210 298950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should have included 11:09:58 oklopol: You met your true love at the uni?! < 1301802211 443897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the top there. < 1301802253 584439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:14:24 the same sort of discovery as when you put a battery in backwards in an old-fashioned analog battery-powered clock, and the hands start ticking backwards < 1301802255 273356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does this work < 1301802258 758972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me this works < 1301802266 764468 :libc\x2Eso!Gregor@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1301802269 79555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it does work < 1301802272 440660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on some sorts of clock, at least < 1301802274 347492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly not all of them < 1301802274 592316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i < 1301802280 357638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: my life is complete < 1301802288 778147 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. Stupid bip. Every time I connect from a different place it names me back to Gregor :P < 1301802296 798033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never works on digital clocks, but certain analog clocks, it does < 1301802352 998222 :azaq231!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301802453 174482 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301802638 938262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:20:38 * ais523 has trouble remembering events from the future < 1301802639 166818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1301802644 28010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lol if it worked on digital clocks < 1301802814 965714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:54:04 There once lived a family of old, old wasps. These wasps, every day, would clamour for a chance to see the Queen Wasp -- like a queen bee, but more a figurehead than a head of state, you see -- and the rest of the time they fantasised about seeing the Queen Wasp. One day they all got killed in a very boring way, and Bjorn knew nothing of this as he passed through the forest in which they didn't live. < 1301802815 167743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, i used to be a poet :| < 1301803511 512321 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301803903 389595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:39:12 AnMaster: So is their C-to-LISP compiler actually available? Does it work with semi-real code? < 1301803913 711669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: to belatedly answer: AFAIK ZETA C is not available. < 1301803918 307738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! It is! < 1301803921 585250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/TI/Explorer/zeta-c/ < 1301803923 757278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For TI Explorer, though. < 1301803926 633491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Symbolics. < 1301803931 726345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a TI emulator, though. < 1301803938 370066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And *Zeta-C < 1301803942 744062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, *ZETA-C < 1301803948 854533 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, talk about "belatedly" < 1301803954 3906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yeah X-D < 1301803968 986527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ZETA-C is awesome; its pointers are actually cons cells. < 1301803975 554359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(array . index). NULL is (NIL . 0). < 1301803988 691951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"All pointers were represented as pairs of an array and an index; NULL was < 1301803989 233982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :simply a pair of NIL and 0. If you cast a pointer to an integer, you got a < 1301803989 234197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cons of the array part and the index part. You could later cast this back to < 1301803989 234312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pointer without loss of information, but obviously you couldn't do < 1301803989 234449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :arithmetic on it while it was in the form of a cons." < 1301804004 708528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ZETA-C attempted (fairly successfully, I think) to find the right compromise < 1301804004 872035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :between performance and generality. If you looked real closely, there were < 1301804004 872233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of little corners of C semantics where ZETA-C was not correct. In < 1301804004 872344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :practice, however, one very rarely tripped over any of these. < 1301804004 872453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, I used Lisp integers for C `int' and `long'. This meant bignums < 1301804005 708986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be created automatically, as usual in Lisp. Technically this is not a < 1301804007 845295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct C implementation (even though I don't think the standard specifically < 1301804009 766292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :says that the length of `int' and `long' shall be finite, one can take this as < 1301804011 708057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :implied) but it very rarely ran into trouble. The only such case I remember, < 1301804013 706248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was rather amusing, was a program that did something like < 1301804015 710065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1301804017 720498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Bignumz! < 1301804023 224595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" int i; < 1301804023 479112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : for (i = 1; i; i <<= 1) ... < 1301804023 665789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shifting a 1 bit left repeatedly, expecting it to fall off the left end of < 1301804027 641720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the word). < 1301804029 702793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1301804037 142727 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1301804266 853587 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301804283 902258 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301804590 683719 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301804739 255348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:41:49 i would like to inform you all that i just fixed an error in Gregor's plof implementation using my penis < 1301804739 756545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:42:30 He didn't fix it, he just identified it. < 1301804741 171276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what < 1301804765 906409 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You seem to think I have memory. < 1301804768 167927 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not. < 1301804772 731472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:45:57 alise: @ despite appearances is a reserved _word_ (operator-like word), not a reserved character, so it doesn't count as special inside other operators. many other things like -- and \ are similar, afair. but somethings work like actual punctuation, like brackets, semicolons and commas. iirc. < 1301804774 494153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: *some things < 1301804780 658965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I don't eithello Gregor! < 1301804787 557823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you toit sure is boring today. < 1301804798 845975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody's said anything in the laman, I am a rabbit indeed. < 1301804799 579070 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit is down < 1301804800 263684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I am < 1301804811 821477 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaning #reddit-downtime is crowded with nuts < 1301805256 55551 :azaq231!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301805433 918580 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only problem with troubleshooting is that sometimes trouble shoots back. < 1301805538 292985 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (+;) = 3 in (+;) < 1301805539 262814 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `;' < 1301805572 729810 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess allowing ; would just be too weird. < 1301805587 479287 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also complicate the indentation rule < 1301805643 17355 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (+,) = 3 in (+,) < 1301805644 123594 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `,' < 1301805791 377048 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and it would interact badly with unary minus < 1301805805 624140 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course some things already do that < 1301805815 237397 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 == -2 < 1301805816 238826 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1301805818 564507 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 ==-2 < 1301805819 570649 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `==-' < 1301805870 8789 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1301806457 162288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF, now the VM crashes on boot < 1301806463 870854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, or not < 1301806494 347681 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :das boot < 1301806547 199821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :das u-boot is a bootloader :p < 1301806650 409786 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :natürlich < 1301806819 244387 :oerjan_!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1301806835 569780 :oerjan_!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1301806840 951864 :oerjan_!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit < 1301806850 382725 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301806858 280777 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1301806945 259553 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i don't like this network error, that's the second time this week < 1301806958 133545 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301806971 928724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's okay *hugs* < 1301806980 574569 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable, what is your Clearance? < 1301806986 9524 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's coming from _inside_ the house < 1301806994 253282 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What VM? < 1301807040 393496 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an idea i'll try if it happens again, though. < 1301807046 964905 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1301807181 927324 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301807277 686861 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the router boxes looks like it might be misbehaving, but the other one was recently replaced and now has many more outgoing whatchamacallits, so i may just scratch the misbehaving one. perhaps.) < 1301807493 852206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, genera does not seem to be working < 1301807569 881398 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1301807631 785020 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1301807680 916019 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: clearence ? < 1301807684 84675 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :* clearance < 1301807715 950968 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Citizen! Failure to properly report your clearance is treason! < 1301807908 709452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: buy me a lisp machine ktnx < 1301808149 855992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GENERA FUCKING STARTS < 1301808150 347589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1301808153 477756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1301808157 339915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't dignified any bootup text yet though < 1301808163 770357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the vm froe < 1301808164 266939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ze < 1301808165 11328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1301808206 637330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda disappointed variable isn't rushing to purchase me a lisp machine, that's never happened to me before < 1301808566 120054 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301809330 641573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Vorpal! I think I may have a clue why internet in genera didn't work < 1301809339 792333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Address for GENERA: INTERNET 172.23.24.15" --the define site screen < 1301809342 160153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't look right to me! < 1301809364 753029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait that is right for the vm < 1301810122 88679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it works. thank you, thank you, thank you for creating this guide. < 1301810148 810422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ompldr.org/vODNieQ "It is two hundred sixty-seven words long." < 1301810329 376767 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Working on homework tomorrow < 1301810570 42577 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1301810604 29878 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301810766 986907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this intro is so awesome < 1301810905 295899 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1301812203 190780 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301812539 872874 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1301813530 714121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the first full-ASCII terminal? < 1301813535 728466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, both uppercase and lowercase. < 1301813820 585270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: BTW, also-belatedly in reply, I half-plan to write a mouse-oriented tiling WM since none seem to exist (apart from... acme). < 1301813826 180610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually wmii might do it... < 1301814591 432997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://vlee.sourceforge.net/ < 1301817444 496089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301818059 456686 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301818084 95530 :sftp_!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1301818099 447009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have two thoughts about why students resist the idea of functions being values of no fundamentally different character than any others. One source, no doubt, is that many of them have “learned” programming on the street, and have developed all sorts of misconceptions that are being applied here." < 1301818105 464240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dangerous street programming gangs! < 1301818725 442491 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-47-197.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301818910 809591 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : hey Vorpal! I think I may have a clue why internet in genera didn't work <-- oh? < 1301818916 480783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I was wrong < 1301818947 311878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anyway, it works, but it's a crapshoot to get it started; half the time the bottom bar loads and I can move my mouse around and it changes but it won't load the rest and clicking out of the window causes X to freeze silently < 1301818953 430257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rare case, it works < 1301818972 334542 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I haven't had that issue you mentioned < 1301818981 64347 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: it works. thank you, thank you, thank you for creating this guide. <-- so does that mean you think I'm awesome? < 1301818984 199675 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it does < 1301819034 429135 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-66-131.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301819035 335831 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Dangerous street programming gangs! <-- I like the idea < 1301819085 314100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you'd be awesome if it didn't hang like that. and if it were faster. and if the scroll wheel worked. < 1301819094 952816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and backspace worked... < 1301819122 17736 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the scrollback worked afaik? < 1301819129 656242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1301819133 425634 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and delete does what backspace does < 1301819136 925662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it does < 1301819139 466734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but delete is annoying to press her < 1301819140 686999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1301819142 256337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fn+backspace < 1301819144 734368 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... < 1301819150 293891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also every F-key :D < 1301819156 883883 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1301819159 259540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fn+Shift+F10 was fun to press. < 1301819170 51300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, "I now have carpal tunnel" fun < 1301819178 366844 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1301819185 806425 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well that is your keyboard's fault < 1301819198 22709 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, my thinkpad have proper keys for it < 1301819209 312109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*has < 1301819212 254898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and depends on your definition of proper < 1301819214 751004 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301819215 363826 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, besides Fn+Shift is easy, Fn is right below shift < 1301819219 557773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mean clustered at the top in a random jumble... :P < 1301819226 702257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes it is, but i still had to bend my hand to get both pressed < 1301819232 611501 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well yes < 1301819240 113624 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, or move your hand < 1301819255 716579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:48:32 alise, it's a lovely idea, but I enjoy programming, and as such am a terrible developer. < 1301819255 882841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA HA HA THOSE WERE THE DAYS < 1301819260 935459 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JULY 2010 EH < 1301819271 754434 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what idea? < 1301819284 530406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp OS things. But the point is that PH said he enjoys programming there, ha ha ha < 1301819292 178371 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1301819322 207492 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I thought he enjoyed procrastinating? < 1301819332 801897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1301819340 384632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I could write the @ compiler in BitC. < 1301819354 712107 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting idea < 1301819392 103681 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, or write your own meta compiler in coq? Which is used to compile the compiler < 1301819403 758363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo dawg < 1301819407 591818 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1301819516 74731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Do you think a hash tree would work for storing objects in @? < 1301819518 473104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thunkin'. < 1301819566 684059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:17:17 Of course I mean VirtualBox. Writing bootloaders in Visual Basic is so stupid it's almost cool. < 1301819566 849030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEST IDEA < 1301819634 422248 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hash tree? Err? < 1301819637 236600 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1301819643 276341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_tree < 1301819713 520692 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be used for verification rather? < 1301819732 645278 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I think I have a cold < 1301819752 550126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, but if you look at the structure... < 1301819757 996747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pretend the arrows go the other way... < 1301819763 876046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's suddenly a lookup tree < 1301819841 985595 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1301819890 371139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:09:18 Basically, aliseOS will make you toast, take over the internet so you have some more computing power, make your mind explode every time you use it, and sexually gratify your dog*. < 1301819890 537084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:09:29 *Advanced edition only. < 1301819891 50717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:10:46 But I don't have a dog < 1301819891 216074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:10:57 zzo38: It will buy you a dog first. < 1301819891 216257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:11:28 But I don't need a dog < 1301819925 258045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(12:11:36 Yes, but the dog will be cuddly, you see. But I don't want a dog) < 1301820226 632739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :routine that is a pain to code in python: "if all these lines start with a common whitespace prefix, remove it from all of them" < 1301820759 197798 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> transpose . dropWhile ((`elem` [" ", "\t"]) . map head . group) . transpose $ [" \t a ha", " \t\tbc", " \t hm"] < 1301820761 406954 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [" a ha","\tbcm"," h"] < 1301820776 13485 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1301820807 837244 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1301820816 730703 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1301820904 559756 :cheater00!~cheater@g224203172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301820934 198767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301820997 590492 :cheater-!~cheater@g228060032.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301821247 513698 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-66-131.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301821639 77167 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-55-253.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301822216 147654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: bastard < 1301822222 773588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: get it right so i can port it :-D < 1301822363 173078 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join (drop . length . takeWhile (`elem` [" ","\t"]) . map (map head . group) . transpose) $ [" \t a ha", " \t\tbc", " \t hm"] < 1301822365 126726 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [" \t hm"] < 1301822372 207363 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er nope < 1301822387 642698 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join (map . drop . length . takeWhile (`elem` [" ","\t"]) . map (map head . group) . transpose) $ [" \t a ha", " \t\tbc", " \t hm"] < 1301822389 357136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [" a ha","\tbc"," hm"] < 1301822431 881690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should strp no prefix < 1301822433 482340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1301822437 688973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should strip just the \t < 1301822438 426853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*strip < 1301822479 436976 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does what i thought it should... < 1301822496 732490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1301822496 898536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1301822507 242971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join (map . drop . length . takeWhile (`elem` [" ","\t"]) . map (map head . group) . transpose) $ [" x"," x"," x"] < 1301822509 45762 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [" x","x"," x"] < 1301822523 849477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now to find a way to express that in a way that Idiot Python will understand < 1301822547 430566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t transpose < 1301822548 431909 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. [[a]] -> [[a]] < 1301822553 613647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> transpose [[1,2,3],[4,5,6]] < 1301822554 817640 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1,4],[2,5],[3,6]] < 1301822558 488006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1301822568 641898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it'd probably be easier to convert this whole program to haskell :D < 1301822573 407069 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :D < 1301822575 435582 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1301822600 86307 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note i am giving no guarantees that this is the most efficient method, even in haskell... < 1301822653 683527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe i'm brainfreezing on how to do it in python X_X < 1301822712 877599 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1301822713 43499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY OERJAN, MAKE AN IMPERATIVE ALGORITHM FOR IT :D < 1301822713 381140 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1301822747 589769 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um loop over the first line until you either hit whitespace or something which isn't in all lines? < 1301822753 442697 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*non-whitespace < 1301822829 705718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: except that the first line could have more than the prefix < 1301822833 741088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see what you mean < 1301822841 699759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that uh < 1301822843 136924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(mn) < 1301822849 520235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where m is the prefix chars and n is the number of lines apart from the first < 1301822855 984489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a strange complexity < 1301822890 103154 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not strange, that's how many characters you actually need to check to be sure what to remove < 1301822899 569063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, eys < 1301822900 748773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1301822903 287957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's still strange! < 1301822985 680577 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to drink gravy from one compartment in a telly dinner while there is still liquid in another is not recommended. < 1301822996 721049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noted < 1301823136 292486 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still O(n) in the actual file size < 1301823325 767233 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-6-99.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301823339 283547 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you've now given me the most pathetic image ever. < 1301823365 624816 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unemployed mathematician sitting on a sofa with TV dinner liquid all over him. < 1301823504 475737 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Are you still an unemployed mathematician?) < 1301824326 588868 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. although it was just a little potato water. < 1301824338 871244 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a chair, not a sofa. < 1301824382 332497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, i'd PAY oerjan to be an unemployed mathematician < 1301824390 890681 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...interesting. < 1301824405 452904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: this counts as employment < 1301824440 869263 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1301824532 138430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry to disappoint < 1301824539 127216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'll pay you to work on @ ;D < 1301824770 613476 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Going elsewhere for dessert < 1301824789 530202 :cheater-!~cheater@e181143184.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301824885 376602 :cheater00!~cheater@g224203172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301825703 761946 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301826788 442782 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-55-253.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1301826831 803552 :wareya_!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com NICK :wareya < 1301827058 762113 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1301827085 11044 :Slereah!~buttes@ANantes-259-1-19-121.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301827156 347441 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301827239 681492 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-6-99.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1301827248 324774 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1301827333 717718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1301827407 301251 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1301827449 944936 :Lymia!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1301827890 674217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1301828020 440753 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1301828236 479158 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I looked more at the hash-tree, and I can't see how you could use it for lookup < 1301828247 832598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Like I said, pretend the arrows go the other way X-D < 1301828251 496659 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, each hash is a hash of the entire subset of blocks < 1301828270 782019 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes indeed, but I can't figure out how you can make it more than one level deep (a hash-list...) < 1301828353 91710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :True :P < 1301828387 859705 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so in other words, it won't work < 1301828392 492920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH WELL < 1301828399 495623 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, b-tree is useful :P < 1301828408 981897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, if you're LOSER :P < 1301828416 994337 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, okay do a b+-tree then < 1301828684 725798 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1301830206 798255 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301830305 785460 :cheater00!~cheater@g229029166.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301830393 470952 :cheater-!~cheater@e181143184.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301830901 805678 :cheater-!~cheater@e181134108.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301830987 462197 :cheater00!~cheater@g229029166.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301831176 525815 :cheater-!~cheater@e181134108.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301831396 366440 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301831794 48965 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301831860 153374 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301832304 653429 :cheater99!~cheater@e181133177.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301832861 431652 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301832949 399079 :Slereah!~buttes@ANantes-259-1-19-121.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301833287 14972 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-132-111.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301834162 48720 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1301834585 34834 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-132-111.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1301834975 684941 :Slereah!~buttes@ANantes-259-1-97-192.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301835235 645892 :Slereah!~buttes@ANantes-259-1-97-192.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301835254 475681 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1301835623 723538 :Slereah!~buttes@ANantes-259-1-107-19.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301839954 459660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:29:34 it's like, drowning while strapped to a board and having fun! < 1301840030 424022 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :waterboarding? < 1301840205 857212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the sport version < 1301840219 384628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:25:23 olsner: ok so maybe with waterboarding you're actually like < 1301840219 551023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:25:29 olsner: lying flat on the board at all times < 1301840219 551178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:26:10 hmm, that could work < 1301840219 551282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:26:24 although you do that when surfing too, just not all the time < 1301840219 551383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:27:07 olsner: right, but CONSTANTLY < 1301840219 716655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:27:09 olsner: ooh < 1301840221 537378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:27:16 olsner: maybe your arms go underneath, and you tie them to it < 1301840223 633367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:27:18 same with feet < 1301840225 491659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:27:21 you become one with the board! < 1301840227 492325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:29:34 it's like, drowning while strapped to a board and having fun! < 1301840230 662104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:30:39 olsner: yup! < 1301840231 874257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:30:46 olsner: just like waterboarding. < 1301840233 563905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:32:37 well, the torture version is less likely to kill you I think < 1301840235 651876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolflood < 1301840243 448078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Thank you for this life wisdom: < 1301840245 583485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:26:33 it's all fun and games until you think of the details < 1301840287 782137 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, that's so true < 1301840648 443168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:08:46 I also like what I've heard of Nickleback < 1301840648 608857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:09:04 Although the lyrics are objectionable -- I am able to hande that < 1301840648 609039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should only read logs from like 2005 so i don't have to have my nice relaxing times pooped on by terribleness < 1301840688 563890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:11:27 Are you saying I can hear the same melody, with different lyrics??? < 1301840688 789126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY LIFE IS FINALLY COMPLETE < 1301840705 360140 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You had the nick elliott before 2010? < 1301840713 756524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ? < 1301840726 589036 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That conversation with olsner? < 1301840736 142836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is from 2010-10-30. < 1301840774 300920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ? < 1301840790 957752 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1301840814 71249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: WHEN DID YOU THINK IT WAS FROM < 1301840828 235618 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I THOUGHT IT WAS THE DISTANT PAST < 1301840834 813167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE, 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO < 1301840976 829912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: YOU THINK THAT'S DISTANT, I WAS IN HERE A WHOLE ONE TIME IN 2006 < 1301840983 871128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[~/esotericlogs]% grep ehird 06.* 20 < 1301840984 37650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06.12.29:12:42:41 --- join: ehird (n=ehird@user-5440e204.wfd80a.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined #esoteric < 1301840984 37870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06.12.29:12:43:09 --- part: ehird left #esoteric < 1301840984 37976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[~/esotericlogs]% < 1301840990 319193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FULLY FIVE YEARS AGO < 1301841007 361593 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BACK WHEN I WAS ELLIOTT'S REAL AGE < 1301841014 995246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(THREE) < 1301841032 836362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[~/esotericlogs]% grep ehird 06.* | wc -l < 1301841033 2573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1301841033 2791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[~/esotericlogs]% grep ehird 07.* | wc -l < 1301841033 2900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :25729 < 1301841036 853259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUPEREXPONENTIAL GROWRTH < 1301841039 403716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GROWTH < 1301841043 326268 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1301841055 73295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 25729/2 < 1301841055 812327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12864.5 < 1301841071 625341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 25729 * 12864.5 < 1301841072 386060 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.309907205e8 < 1301841080 380370 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY PREDICTION IS MADE < 1301841166 416160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[~/esotericlogs]% for i in 06 07 08 09 10; do grep "^..:..:.. <(ehird|elliott|alise|iEhird)[^>]*>" $i.* | wc -l; done < 1301841166 620386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1301841166 620555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23597 < 1301841166 620672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :52801 < 1301841166 620777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :180807 < 1301841168 519573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :181962 < 1301841173 200337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: STATISTICS < 1301841193 546597 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SURE BUT YOU CAN'T BEAT ELEGANCE < 1301841262 760540 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm amazed you were able to increase your activity from '09 to '10 despite being institutionalised for most of it.) < 1301841335 537972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have NO IDEA how quickly I can type on an iPhone now. < 1301841355 177746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, '10 I was locked up, '09 I was free. But yeah, no idea how I managed to quadruple my activity :P < 1301841391 158516 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should totally implement my iPhone lockout mechanism on my family's WiFi network just to annoy my father and sister.) < 1301841394 923214 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/)// < 1301841426 967697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define your iPhone lockout mechanism. Character in password not on iPhone keyboards? < 1301841445 825498 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1301841508 527441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:54:38 HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1301841508 732961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:54:48 i had OS/2 Warp once. < 1301841508 733150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:55:02 i had all those fucking floppies < 1301841508 733258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:55:04 it never worked. < 1301841508 733362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people are just poets < 1301841515 983409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:55:41 catseye: summary of computing. < 1301841518 548881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people are DOUBLE POETS < 1301841544 380424 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :== SUMMARY OF COMPUTING== < 1301841551 676176 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had OS/2 Warp once. < 1301841557 891114 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had all those fucking floppies. < 1301841561 197805 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It never worked. < 1301841609 325404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb editing [[wikipedia:computing]] < 1301841780 694223 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-13-16.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301841910 940109 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301842118 381396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:21:31 (i'll have an orange coke. let's slap a bsd gpl on this thing and check it into the github sccs.) < 1301842466 54288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:14:27 There's a squirrel that lives near my building that I see every so often. I can recognize it's the same squirrel because it has no tail. It is a constant reminder that, visually speaking anyway, squirrels are approximately 50% tail. < 1301842528 225277 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a half-a-squirrel < 1301842571 677202 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would nicely symmetrical if there was a squirrel tail running about somewhere < 1301842643 810932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apr 3 12:32:11 rutian thttpd[25281]: 92.240.68.152 - - "GET /wp-content/uploads/2008/10/game-console.jpg HTTP/1.1" 404 0 "http://www.altavista.com/image/randomlink" "webcollage/1.135a" < 1301842644 825177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1301843216 243684 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alta Vista? < 1301843219 503786 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That still exists? < 1301843291 807768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1301843381 681150 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's an altvista-themed frontend for yahoo nowadays < 1301843520 724453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1301843556 230548 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S STILL MORNING < 1301843565 565593 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been doing WORK < 1301843568 411916 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO IT'S NOT < 1301843569 360139 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's still MORNING < 1301843571 239024 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... on SUNDAY < 1301843576 974235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey what happened to pikhq, < 1301843608 198809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he died < 1301843611 276003 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :He /nick'd to pingveno a while ago and doesn't seem to talk much recently. < 1301843620 963346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1301843623 308415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALMOST BELIEVABLE < 1301843758 858294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: btw: so gonna work on that forth again < 1301843834 96486 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nice < 1301843878 133167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: one problem is i need to copy the dictionary elsewhere, cuz right now it's in my code :D < 1301843901 548297 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you put it at the end of your code, can't you just keep adding to it? :) < 1301843948 263417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 0x55 0xAA < 1301843957 37632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't feel like making sure that aligns as some junk dictionary word < 1301844043 597584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how did i break my interpreter < 1301844100 212598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: some of the words are promisingly tiny though < 1301844101 844940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :store: pop bx ; addr < 1301844102 75928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : pop ax ; value < 1301844102 241608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : mov word [bx], ax < 1301844102 241800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : next < 1301844109 620877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where next is < 1301844113 112705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xchg sp, bp < 1301844113 363282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ret < 1301844161 894185 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh doing the forth again? heh < 1301844181 366020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah, adding digit reading support and writing a compiler. < 1301844209 250657 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1301844228 686986 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, chances of fitting it in 510 bytes? < 1301844238 726042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :decent i guess? < 1301844246 33676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe more likely if i remove the interpeter :D < 1301844247 746068 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1301844248 915118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*interpreter < 1301844258 10700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there's a forth there, you just can't get at it" < 1301844325 671095 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/interpreter/REPL/? < 1301844380 161472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: no, forth terminology is interpreter < 1301844384 999196 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1301844387 233457 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okidoke < 1301844401 211923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: a forth interpreter reads words and executes them. a forth compiler reads words and compiles them into a new word definition < 1301844414 369832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you invoke the compiler with the : word in the interpreter < 1301844437 182141 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, but presumably the main problem isn't the interpreter /per se/, but the keyboard interrupt driver, display, all that BS. < 1301844457 5167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, still, the interpreter is my longest subroutine :P < 1301844462 47035 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm. < 1301844476 929957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/chBI < 1301844509 992274 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohwow, we actually get to see some code? < 1301844518 800046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE'S YOUR SCRAP < 1301844522 545170 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ahem" is a good block name :P < 1301844535 857969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what inspired me to call that ahem :D < 1301844595 458183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i should factor out that word-finder < 1301844611 336155 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1301844687 386343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: FWIW, the definition of "Forth" this thing uses is very loose :P < 1301844725 881713 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301844765 594601 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, being /spiritually/ Forth is what's important, not being e.g. ANS Forth :P < 1301844787 273269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Define spiritually :P < 1301844814 654596 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must worship the great Forth god. < 1301844820 25346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That it does. < 1301844913 149431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey omnipit-olsner, after a jz and a ret, will another jz have the same branch? < 1301844916 316453 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or could it branch any old way < 1301844929 502384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. does jz or ret invalidate/reset the flag < 1301845072 599105 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1301845664 25034 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you need that compiler? Can't you just do threaded code? < 1301845672 802071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ... < 1301845679 165693 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :string threaded I mean < 1301845685 963990 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, as in, interpret everything < 1301845693 220888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz 2 learn how forth works < 1301845698 603161 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1301845790 747408 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1301846384 316047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1301846387 695654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do additions to bl overflow into bh? < 1301846421 515861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh _dear_ that's broken < 1301846972 240590 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1301846997 799441 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :issue with firefox 4: if I type a m at the start of the address bar, it eats it up as a short cut for switch to tab. Extremely annoying. Any idea how to disable? < 1301847035 347339 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use Chrome < 1301847071 311005 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there are some things I don't like with chrome. < 1301847366 235483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE HOW THEY SEND ALL YOUR DATA TO THE GOOGLES AM I RIGHT < 1301847388 929887 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1301847481 26424 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no. I'm talking about stuff like where the tab bar is. (Yes I know their motivation for it, I don't like it still.) And how it doesn't look native in a Gnome environment. < 1301847495 117681 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not last I checked. < 1301847498 433256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are themes to make it native for just about any gnome theme. < 1301847504 812907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That + tell it to use WM decorations. < 1301847509 558656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks flawless here. < 1301847514 855613 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, as for the tab bar? < 1301847532 68543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: If you won't use a browser because of a few pixels difference in where the tab bar is placed, I say you're making up excuses. < 1301847571 804983 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also, I couldn't find advanced options for cookie acception last I looked. And is there a noscript for chrome? Adblock? Firebug? < 1301847581 598505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can move the tabs to the side with dev channel IIRC < 1301847592 503468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: noscript yes (built in even, but there are extensions too) < 1301847595 11227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :adblock yes < 1301847600 654905 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and firebug? < 1301847602 980497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :firebug maybe. there's always the webkit inspector which works fine for me < 1301847606 713288 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1301847608 923290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has basically the same features < 1301847624 444640 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :including modifying it on the fly? < 1301847625 339899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also http://getfirebug.com/releases/lite/chrome/ < 1301847628 491390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: um, duh. < 1301847629 908513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything has that. < 1301847630 453007 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1301847636 240084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :firebug lite is shitty though imo < 1301847640 852130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the inspector works fine < 1301847644 74181 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, right, so what about the cookie stuff? < 1301847655 79675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://chrome.google.com/extensions/?hl=en < 1301847656 738099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JFGI :P < 1301847670 67916 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1301847670 363578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?hl=en ;; TOTALLY OFFICIAL (TM) adblock < 1301847704 561422 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep looks good < 1301847767 279514 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301847785 465864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ppfdcmehpgiojcjgpclmfnbnpdmcmbgo ;; clearlooks scrollbars, not a full theme though :-p < 1301847856 654208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I recommend using the official repos btw on an distro that can. (the .deb from their frontpage just adds an apt repository, installs the chrome package, and self-destructs) < 1301847865 209983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chrome updates far more frequently than debian or ubuntu do :-P < 1301847892 878071 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :har < 1301847904 636559 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well I found how to disable the thing in firefox < 1301848318 284094 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/ghnea/those_of_you_labeled_smart_how_has_it_affected_you/ < 1301848321 162128 :nooga!nooga@jasminek.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301848323 296829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, impending sense of dread. < 1301848816 808603 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolololFAIL < 1301849107 365800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's Well-Known(tm) that telling kids they're smart kills 'em :P < 1301849160 474510 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301849184 384377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least my parents refuse to acknowledge that I am in any way talented. < 1301849340 979713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: QUITE RIGHT HUR HUR < 1301849351 301411 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, -_- < 1301849418 716820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301849430 284635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1301849439 170084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1301849455 130863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory: most houses are actually haunted, but by especially shy ghosts who never make their presence known < 1301849467 459554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... okay < 1301849481 4098 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sounds logical < 1301849492 770513 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why < 1301849500 549614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's just a theory < 1301849505 697155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one that's kind-of hard to disprove < 1301849521 210941 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1301849524 754055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a theory < 1301849532 892083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :even by the informal sense < 1301849535 947906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's not falsifiable < 1301849570 713006 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you mean hypothesis, not theory < 1301849572 492446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, why is btr behaving wrongly? < 1301849583 676173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: theory means hypothesis in informal conversation. < 1301849591 259794 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1301849597 460177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh what ais523 said is just a religious belief, so it's a wild conjecture, not a theory or a hypothesis or anything :) < 1301849599 543013 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is wonderfully confusing < 1301849622 844539 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not sure it is religious. Belief though yes. < 1301849630 532444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is religious < 1301849636 261501 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so= < 1301849637 526179 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the informal sense, basically any sequence of words is a theory, even nonsense :P < 1301849644 637443 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's my theory anyway HERP DURP) < 1301849648 997709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a superstitious belief only able to be taken on faith < 1301849660 673485 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1301849671 356844 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so yes it is conjecture indeed < 1301849673 759848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could institute some kind of requirement for popularity to be a religious belief, but i don't think that'd hold up in practice < 1301849725 790839 :Leonidas!~Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301849745 426624 :Leonidas!~Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1301849782 525064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wtf is u pwit hthis :/ < 1301849813 872616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so it's going the wrong way around < 1301849815 774467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*up with this < 1301849850 780543 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what are you talking about < 1301849855 582906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my forth < 1301849881 302728 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1301849899 552943 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1301849966 673184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the first on-topic thing i've done in ever >:D < 1301850017 349745 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's a superstitious belief only able to be taken on faith ← I wouldn't define religiousness purely on that basis. < 1301850026 477816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "religious belief", not "religion" < 1301850118 609476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1301850120 702154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner olsner olsner :D < 1301850154 188498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH DUH < 1301850157 454991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's not working < 1301850159 530668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i'm a stupid fuck < 1301850269 682448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1301850272 410054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :integer reading works! < 1301850282 259302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Vorpal: now is your chance to convince me it needs to support hex < 1301850305 586258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: in an unprecedented innovation, you can write your integers in packed-letter format < 1301850309 642386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just prefix a word with a 0! < 1301850315 385385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can mix and match < 1301850324 27870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qw9f70 is a number. i'm not sure which. < 1301850365 873851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well 6e2 is a block drawing character. < 1301850378 772801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0qwe apparently fails to qualify for number status. < 1301850554 159412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Phantom_Hoover: ais523: WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRY OUT THE FRTH510 DEVELOPER'S PREVIEW < 1301850565 874350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not right now < 1301850573 144303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1301850576 735243 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, maybe another day < 1301850577 144692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's only a 512 byte download! < 1301850579 734313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and implements SEVERAL words! < 1301850586 84638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can entertain you for whole SECONDS with a simple qemu call! < 1301850598 441791 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: Vorpal: now is your chance to convince me it needs to support hex <-- it doesn't < 1301850618 521883 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and I would need to install qemu < 1301850660 524582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: bochs also works < 1301850667 548108 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not installed either < 1301850674 860136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :virtualbox...might work < 1301850675 863507 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :only have virtualbox around for virtualisation < 1301850743 244016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway how long does it take for you to install a package X-D < 1301850803 814970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do YOU want to try < 1301850809 866893 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1301850911 753714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: WHY NOT < 1301850926 749963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE NEVER REALLY LEARNED FORTH < 1301850961 221001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It isn't Forth, it only has six words, of which three you can actually use. < 1301850974 753473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other three? < 1301850990 787108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is broken and the other two have no discernable effects from inside the interpreter. < 1301850997 33089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I appear to have broken a word. < 1301851097 681180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ANYWAY THEORETICALLY THIS SYSTEM CAN ALREADY DO ANYTHING < 1301851104 412933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS POKE TO THE RIGHT LOCATIONS IN THE PROGRAM < 1301851106 616513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO THAT IT DOES WHAT YOU WANT < 1301851347 261810 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, develop the rest using that < 1301851351 645074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no :D < 1301851358 789842 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, come on < 1301851362 953948 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a wonderful idea < 1301851371 526758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an assembler and a lot of patience it could be done. < 1301851388 693179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd want to poke the dictionary so that you have a new entry, "do stuff", that points to some code far away < 1301851392 432608 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, real men pokes memory directly. With a magnetic needle < 1301851404 519758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you could just modify that code by assembling it manually and poking the words in < 1301851410 535528 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, indeed < 1301851420 320807 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how many bytes is it currently? < 1301851449 675734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :200 and something last I checked. it's going to expand, obviously, to grow a compiler and more words, but it's also going to contract as I microoptimise < 1301851461 786526 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1301851464 339012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out the most ghetto possible way to do IF ... THEN < 1301851473 940474 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, test, jmp? < 1301851476 198551 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmov? < 1301851478 527971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that simple < 1301851485 45502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in most forths, if leaves a special marker on the stack < 1301851489 532769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then goes back and twiddles it with the pointer to the THEN < 1301851490 595328 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :err not jmp obviously < 1301851492 435004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it knows where to jump to < 1301851494 628883 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :jne rather < 1301851496 600869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with mine < 1301851498 703419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF will just: < 1301851501 588441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) look at the call stack < 1301851504 788208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2) read the calling word's code < 1301851514 833891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3) skip past the call instructions until it finds the address of THEN < 1301851517 228137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(4) jumps there < 1301851518 980114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if it's false, that is) < 1301851536 651061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it works by inspecting the machine code that called it :D < 1301851543 4576 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1301851552 918497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to see you do THAT in C < 1301851576 193009 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy enough unless you meant portable C < 1301851584 483300 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how will that cope with nested ifs? < 1301851590 107554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it won't < 1301851597 708813 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1301851601 466809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Good luck getting predictable enough code from the C compiler to manage that < 1301851606 990809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what's the need? you can just define multiple words < 1301851613 681508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: iirc colorforth doesn't support nested ifs either < 1301851627 604894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm also leaving out ELSE support for the same reason as colorforth; simpler to implement a separate return) < 1301851684 519221 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in forth it's normal not to support nested ifs at all? < 1301851690 161011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: not in *forth* < 1301851696 368596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :colorforth hardly counts as normal forth :-D < 1301851717 680367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: but anyway this lets me avoid any complicated "compile semantics". < 1301851722 833711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything has one... semantic. < 1301851735 938425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from integer literals, which are treated specially by both interpreter and compiler :) < 1301851740 127537 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1301851751 383207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they are in a real forth, too, just they have a needless level of indirection (LITERAL)) < 1301851779 696978 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301851785 733509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i think this also means that IF...THEN will fail badly in the interpreter :) < 1301851813 550811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it'll try and look at the interpreter's source code, which is ofc free-form x86 < 1301851823 412114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who cares, define a temporary word! < 1301851876 111754 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301851882 538655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1301851901 963098 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1301851907 963801 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat's hi < 1301851917 378708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with norwegians and puns < 1301851956 105108 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net TOPIC #esoteric :ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | Catch sufficiently hello world. | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Ale) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1301851966 120657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: fwiw, yoob feedback: for some reason, loading a new language hangs the thing for several seconds < 1301851971 931401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also clicking the about language button. < 1301851980 996427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite disconcerting < 1301851986 53489 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll work on it < 1301851996 460922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ah. i see the problem. what we need is MORE SPEED" < 1301852002 866487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed(); speed(); speed(); < 1301852036 784762 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to load new classes in the background < 1301852037 749999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i clicked edit in ale and the whole applet went white :D < 1301852062 731784 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never seen that before < 1301852099 361489 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : speed(); speed(); speed(); <-- that obviously has some call overhead without an inlining compiler! ;P < 1301852117 670853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: hm right < 1301852118 500349 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, any plans to add Lazy K :P < 1301852121 106414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: if you click about -> done < 1301852126 94695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: edit/reset/step/run become ungreyed < 1301852129 43596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason < 1301852138 744622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then clicking edit borks it < 1301852163 49868 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe that < 1301852182 974701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i'm not sure why edit starts off greyed < 1301852189 19318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict it leaves no way to actually input an initial program < 1301852216 732441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the brainfuck input thing reorders text if you type quickly :p < 1301852249 349538 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um? the input thing is just a JTextArea... < 1301852261 468191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but the implementation deletes characters from it and repositions the cursor as it goes < 1301852273 340378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you type faster than java can wake up and remove the characters, your typing gets out of order < 1301852281 665248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing! can become ng!testi or whatever < 1301852298 938502 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the input box, not the program-editing box < 1301852300 345757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try typing hello world into revcat right as it starts < 1301852300 770753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1301852437 853608 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to be a custom control of some kind, not a textarea. < 1301852441 364007 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1301852486 444650 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why ls is called ls. After all it stands for list directory? Shouldn't it be ld or lsd then? Not sure why the linker is ld... Link Objects? Should be lo? < 1301852486 756519 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301852497 763436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: preferably just a box that can hold one char? < 1301852501 284942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and silently buffers them behind the scenes < 1301852515 246796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: List Segments from Multics < 1301852516 96129 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 'list segments' < 1301852525 775481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Multics, (collection of) segment(s) = file < 1301852530 922862 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah < 1301852555 746176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno where ld comes from < 1301852559 538245 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it was carefully chosen to produce a unique value in an existing perfect hash function < 1301852560 685610 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1301852569 211230 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, heh :P < 1301852621 604812 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link on up Dem objects < 1301852627 532039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: you should implement frth in yoob :-P < 1301852629 194600 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1301852660 751233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: linkers used to be called loaders < 1301852669 115914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ld is a plausible abbreviation for "loader" < 1301852672 350251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, right, I think the Multics one was a loader < 1301852817 437798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMEHOW I FEEL CATSEYE DOES NOT EXPERIENCE A WAVE OF EXCITEMENT AT THIS IDEA < 1301852818 783428 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301852821 591107 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1301852825 307912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg impomatic heard < 1301852827 980854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm working on the forth < 1301852829 491640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has spies < 1301852836 714091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, someone just made a 14-bit quantum register < 1301852842 775335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's twice as much as the state of the art a few years ago < 1301852849 91827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they're second-class persons? < 1301852858 906484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is forcing the hand of a person allowed like that? < 1301852859 230965 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : wow, someone just made a 14-bit quantum register <-- wow < 1301852864 872223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they haven't hooked it up into an actual quantum computers < 1301852866 467458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*computer < 1301852868 462595 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott: what precisely are you writing? < 1301852879 166467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I'm continuing work on my 510-byte Forth. < 1301852893 737194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I've added integer literals; after I fix this pesky bug, I'll be adding a compiler. < 1301852915 690429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: And then I will RULE THE WORLD < 1301852937 165378 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: only until Itsy-Forth is released :-P < 1301852945 131720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Will IT be 510 bytes of x86? < 1301852947 177227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I THINK NOT < 1301852952 789407 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: was "frth" a typo? < 1301852955 455261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: no < 1301852959 771737 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saves a byte :P < 1301852960 924224 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't find it < 1301852963 678354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: TECHNICALLY all this work is superfluous; it has poke, you can just poke the program you want into memory and cause the interpreter to jump there with a well-placed additional poke. So I'm DONE ALREADY and it's like 200 bytes. < 1301852981 922947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: that's because it's neither adequately specified, implemented entirely, or mentioned outside of here ever < 1301852984 594599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or indeed given a name < 1301853009 729471 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :frth = your 510-byte Forth? < 1301853016 776010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe :) < 1301853017 336027 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you mean FRTH? The fingerprint? < 1301853034 825487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: space constraints are twisting it into, uh, something more than a little esoteric < 1301853048 759877 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it'll be as long as it needs to be, probably 1K. Otherwise it'll be missing some features. < 1301853053 96855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: WELL THEN! < 1301853081 411352 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, impomatic: you are both doing it wrong. Do it in VHDL < 1301853089 712184 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make it smaller if I didn't worry about strict ANS compatibility. < 1301853096 936473 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'll have to implement something representing the functional/combinatorial world at some point. Lazy K is probably easier to implement than Unlambda. (guessing) < 1301853103 177849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I reject your culture of demanding software spend bytes on implementing SO-CALLED ``features'' at the alter of NEEDLESS BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY. < 1301853124 516315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, indeed, your BUREAUCRATIC programming style is OBSOLETE and OUTMODED! You would STEAL another 512 bytes from the user for no gain at all! < 1301853133 514844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUPPORT FRTH, ONE TRUE MINIMALIST FORTH < 1301853139 545183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOESN'T REQUIRE DOS EITHER BECAUSE IT'S AWESOME < 1301853139 711310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: Unlambda has a few features that more or less make it deliberately awkward to implement < 1301853156 12732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed, DOS is awesome, nothing should require an awesome thing < 1301853163 910508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1301853329 895353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is with some of these bugs :/ < 1301853331 13331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm oh wait < 1301853331 444948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1301853346 29987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1301853469 44510 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really possible to make the interpreter/compiler loop much smaller than 100 bytes. < 1301853519 743689 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, there's a #forth channel :-) < 1301853532 830108 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you know the freebsd bootloader has forth? < 1301853540 968141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah? < 1301853542 43210 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, could your forth replace that one? < 1301853552 13943 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make the bootloader smaller < 1301853552 788676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I know, but last time I was in it ams wouldn't shut up. < 1301853564 322377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Also, err, my interpreter is smaller than that. < 1301853579 607814 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... I'd be interested in seeing it. < 1301853580 979168 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: probably not without losing the remaining bootloader functionality :P < 1301853581 144186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe like 50 bytes? < 1301853587 151206 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, hah < 1301853606 531949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: http://sprunge.us/JaXb Here's the currently-something's-broken version :P < 1301853614 754775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those two commented out lines really should be there, there's just some weird bug I'm tracking down. < 1301853616 416702 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the freebsd bootloader doesn't reside in the bootblock < 1301853627 439588 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, ah < 1301853628 85598 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bootblock/MBR/ < 1301853639 424339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Unless you count the word reader and word finder (as in, dictionary lookup) in the byte count. < 1301853644 849715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: But since the compiler reuses them.. < 1301853647 700266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*them... < 1301853681 723611 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My loop is compiler and interpreter. Probably why it's bigger. < 1301853685 538326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two example word bodies: < 1301853686 746440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetch: pop bx < 1301853686 961417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : push word [bx] < 1301853687 430253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : next < 1301853689 254985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :store: pop bx ; addr < 1301853691 256857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : pop ax ; value < 1301853693 253513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : mov word [bx], ax < 1301853695 260401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : next < 1301853698 290693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: My compiler is a separate word; I'm curious, why are yours intertwined? < 1301853718 792149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(next is just xchg sp, bp; ret) < 1301853738 624948 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep the top stack entry in a register instead of on the stack. Makes some of the code smaller. < 1301853742 49834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that store comes out to four bytes, btw) < 1301853746 660639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, slightly more < 1301853752 527531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 bytes < 1301853755 374390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(including next) < 1301853758 957307 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetch: mov bx, word [bx] < 1301853763 382807 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : next < 1301853770 593218 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1301853775 496494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetch is six bytes including next < 1301853787 424752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Well, yeah, that makes some code shorter. < 1301853793 7235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: But the stack manipulation words would require more juggling. < 1301853800 360966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as pushes. < 1301853800 563999 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-25-93.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301853800 994276 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-25-93.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1301853801 158840 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1301853802 727594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm not sure it pays off. < 1301853806 205665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: What's your NEXT? < 1301853808 695094 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :store: pop word [bx] < 1301853812 383206 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : pop bx < 1301853814 895907 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : next < 1301853818 724595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I'm doing subroutine threaded code, btw. < 1301853834 647571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, how does that store work at all... < 1301853834 812577 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1301853853 984836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that reversed? < 1301853879 207742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the pop-to-dereference trick though :P < 1301853888 417289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :store is now 6 bytes X-D < 1301853948 218565 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have two different NEXT. At the moment I can do indirect of direct threaded. < 1301853956 108773 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of EQU or < 1301853968 638116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me, subroutine threaded pays off massively. < 1301853976 42947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I can reuse the short x86 stack instructions. < 1301853997 929387 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use INT 3 for next. It's only 1 byte :-) < 1301854014 742413 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is ret... < 1301854126 808493 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you handle the return address if you're using the stack for other stuff? < 1301854138 628859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: xchg sp, bp :P < 1301854203 373254 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301854207 778367 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So each word starts and ends with xchg sp, bp? < 1301854227 171598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: No -- each word ends with it, and then a ret. Well, usually; as long as it ends up in the right place at the end it can do whatever it wants. < 1301854235 363593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: The initial swap is done by the interpreter loop I pasted. < 1301854281 887206 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301854339 476659 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way you get nearly zero dB loss in the 100-500 KHz range, and only negligble dropout thereafter < 1301854366 785919 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1301854380 929057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: ...yes...what < 1301854406 31438 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, Take my love, take my land < 1301854439 670964 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301854448 224706 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, wrong channel? < 1301854459 464513 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't even seen the series < 1301854474 497565 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mindboggles < 1301854487 55813 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I haven't seen the series either < 1301854500 53887 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, you're not named after it, though < 1301854514 667182 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, uh... His nick is after the insect obviously < 1301854518 50850 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, I know firefly is not just the name of a series) < 1301854544 268088 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started using this nick long before I knew about the series :P < 1301854548 418834 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :VORPAL THIS IS NEVER THE WRONG CHANNEL < 1301854557 862518 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, touche < 1301854643 223490 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, how do I perform esoterica spells? < 1301854681 673555 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, usually you write a program in Malbolge that outputs an underload program that perform the task < 1301854684 898914 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :performs* < 1301854857 623427 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone refresh my memory: the lambdas in FALSE aren't proper closures, right? If I do like [n;] then change the value stored in n, executing that lambda won't give me the original value of n? < 1301854886 585630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, that's unrelated to proper closures < 1301854889 101538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define x 42) < 1301854892 882855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define f (lambda () x)) < 1301854896 925134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(set! x 24) < 1301854898 579009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f) => 24 < 1301854919 554159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since afaik all false vars are global < 1301854936 921947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: more importantly, it's not a real false unless you support `... :) < 1301854959 736642 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"can't properly close over values" then < 1301854998 188857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have local variables, then of course you can't close over values :) < 1301855012 487209 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then, in my book anyway, you don't have closures < 1301855035 997987 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but uh, you could close over globals by copying them when constructing the closure < 1301855049 487384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it i'm sure! with `! < 1301855103 222586 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i don't get the impression catseye is rushing to implement ` either < 1301855116 879671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno why, 68000 emulator in java sounds like fun < 1301855129 199692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you'd also have to require amiga OS files < 1301855131 643812 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Catch sufficiently 68000 emulator in Java. < 1301855135 679045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1301855244 301394 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, 68000-subset emulator in MBR. An unusually not mephitic project. < 1301855251 501651 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many instructions you could do. < 1301855364 823017 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the deal with these "catch sufficiently"? < 1301855390 173825 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1301855515 536739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: they're caught sufficiently < 1301855515 740525 :Zuu!~vdsvsd@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301855539 322370 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm obviously not catching sufficiently < 1301855583 94161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try catching more sufficiently < 1301855586 992849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an unusually not metphitic task < 1301855597 207900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and while you're at it, enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity! < 1301855598 547129 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wtf is "metphitic"? < 1301855608 689512 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh are all these from the same source? < 1301855609 275356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: have a nice kaksikymmentäneljätuntiaikakausitämänhetkinen. < 1301855614 279651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no < 1301855623 388567 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, then what is the source of the other two= < 1301855629 90332 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/=/?/ < 1301855632 924655 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric? :) < 1301855634 161815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which other two < 1301855639 937347 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those other two --> < 1301855652 34510 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, catching sufficiently and metphitic task < 1301855666 896221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :former is recent esowiki spammer < 1301855683 33990 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that was the latter < 1301855704 874833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mephitic, please stop failing at spelling things right in front of you < 1301855706 765347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite offensive < 1301855711 255238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1301855714 847208 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY CAN'T I DANCE LIKE THE SNOWFLAKES < 1301855755 85613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because society will never accept alternative lifestyles < 1301855761 836060 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: you're no snowflake, obviously you can't dance like one < 1301855765 775709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-04-01.txt:11:41:30: (diff) (hist) . . N Talk:Velato/‎; 05:01 . . (+169) . . 195.211.160.6 (Talk) (Unusually not mephitic forum!!!! Epilogue to bookmarks. To a countless extent wares resource. Greatly much admins) < 1301855768 181539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so both were spammers. < 1301855773 149833 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's mephitic, please stop failing at spelling things right in front of you <-- I copy pasted your line " an unusually not metphitic task" < 1301855783 350284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1301855785 568032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mephitic < 1301855786 982915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shameful of me < 1301855793 964858 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, :D < 1301855797 358189 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this discussion from a little typo... < 1301855803 20601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ENJOY BEING LOCKED IN YOUR MATRIX OF SOLIDITY, ASSHOLE < 1301855807 218687 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does mephitic mean? < 1301855821 140521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :miasmic: of noxious stench from atmospheric pollution < 1301855821 372342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn < 1301855896 302830 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet, google has word definitions now < 1301855911 861701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: wanna debug my ugly asm? :D < 1301855917 698820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "define:x" has existed for years < 1301855919 828954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally < 1301855921 94842 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mephitic asm < 1301855959 106678 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: true, but I don't want to have to remember having to add "define:" < 1301855976 179590 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus you only get crappy definitions with define:x < 1301855977 997591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does this thing refuse to acknowledge mephitic solidity :/ < 1301855982 236853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gonna cry < 1301855992 822786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :h^@¸^Gh^@<8c>^W¼ÿÿ½^@<80>è1^@1öë^G&Ç^D^@^@FFè-^@èF^@èt^@<83>ÿ^@t^Oh^U|<87>åÿe^D<87>åS<87>åëÜ&Ç^D?^GFFëÓ0À1ÿ¹ ^OóªÃ&fÇ^Do^Gk^G<89>ð³ öó@<^X^?^Eöã<89>ÆÃ1öëÚf1Û0äÍ^V&<88>^DF&Æ^D^GF< u^AÃfÁã^E,@$^_^HÃëâf^Oºë^_,00äkÛ < 1301855993 50125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^AÃëÒ¿â|f9^]u^AÃ<83>=^@t^E<83>Ç^Fëð1ÿÃ<87>åè´ÿÃ[ÿ7<87>åÃ[<8f>^G<87>åÃX<87>å_P<87>åÿç<87>å_X<87>åPÿçX&<88>^DF&Æ^D^GF<87>åÃ^D}^^^@^@^@»|òQ^@^@Á|²=i^@Ê|4µ^B^@Ó|^\^@^@^@^@^@^@^@µ| < 1301855995 700648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol how is it still that small < 1301855997 195721 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: true, but I don't want to have to remember having to add "define:" <-- the non-crappy ones been around for years too < 1301856001 538550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how :| < 1301856031 400713 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: I don't mind having a look for a few minutes. < 1301856040 886436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: trust me, you don't want to :) < 1301856043 26498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unbelievably hideous < 1301856061 411720 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind ugly code. < 1301856061 853714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1301856064 948519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing that dictionary entry fixed it < 1301856073 619477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4+2 is 6 right? just checking < 1301856153 992766 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't be more ugly than this : C >R 256 15 16 1799 4 13107 2 21845 R> 4 0 DO TUCK OVER AND -ROT INVERT AND ROT / + LOOP ; < 1301856163 464850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sent it in /msg, trade secret after all :P < 1301856166 1672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pertinent comment is at the bottom < 1301856168 591742 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how would you noun mephitic? mephicity? < 1301856169 213710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ; If this is uncommented, then trying to execute @ (= 0) reports "?" < 1301856176 433346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no, that's the city of Mephi < 1301856186 86271 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mephiticity? < 1301856186 249686 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes youtube fails badly: [download] 62.1% of 133.44M at 63.31k/s ETA 13:37 < 1301856194 898347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: also, the other things that are commented out are commented out "permanently" < 1301856196 610102 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :note the video is about 6 minutes < 1301856198 394797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. there are no debug hacks left in this < 1301856203 945042 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no way that buffering could work here < 1301856208 893292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1301856209 127870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1301856215 655288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no wait < 1301856216 400094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nm < 1301856218 266112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it fixed itself < 1301856221 775522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i forgot to uncomment the dictionary entry < 1301856235 16775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: basically I _think_ fword is somehow broken < 1301856249 378203 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : It can't be more ugly than this : C >R 256 15 16 1799 4 13107 2 21845 R> 4 0 DO TUCK OVER AND -ROT INVERT AND ROT / + LOOP ; <-- "DO TUCK OVER AND" look a bit like intercal somehow < 1301856261 176850 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE DO TUCK OVER AND UNDER < 1301856267 619400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the DO followed by a bunch of caps, I think < 1301856271 374754 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yep < 1301856344 60542 :Zuu!~vdsvsd@77.215.149.86 QUIT : < 1301856427 853075 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1301856513 195355 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1301856523 699350 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're wanted in #esoteric-minecraft < 1301856538 279661 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please say it isn't so < 1301856564 142710 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, what isn't so? < 1301856580 321067 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything, doesn't really matter < 1301856639 507914 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, ais523 theory about ghosts probably isn't so :P < 1301856643 249971 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy ? < 1301856703 179106 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1301856704 531366 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1301856709 102848 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what theory was that? < 1301856742 645399 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :involves Feather probably < 1301856758 71475 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301856761 189620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just ghosts < 1301856764 745074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shy ghosts < 1301857113 954068 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will summarize: Ghosts are all over the damn place, but they're fucking pussies. < 1301857121 645357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1301857124 351184 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpret the last two words in either of the two obvious ways. < 1301857207 66174 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, theory: most houses are actually haunted, but by especially shy ghosts who never make their presence known < 1301857396 671117 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this combines well with my theory that upon death, the human soul remains on earth but becomes remarkably timid < 1301857620 93182 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sam Hughes has a job now? < 1301857629 770996 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I preferred my statement of the "theory" < 1301857788 603006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sam hughes has always had a job ever < 1301857867 762089 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1301857868 801854 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sam Hughes (January 18, 1824–April 1, 1898) was the last great ophicleide player and one of the greatest who ever played the instrument in its short history." < 1301857875 983160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1301857891 324015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he should set that as his twitter bio :D < 1301857891 531516 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now he's too shy and also non-corporeal so can't < 1301857985 325122 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had not heard of the ophicleide before. That's quite the instrumet. < 1301857988 677945 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*instrument < 1301858041 472180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : sam hughes has always had a job ever ← what about the constant moaning about him not being able to get a job in the older entries? < 1301858046 245986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean < 1301858049 312073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after time started beganning < 1301858051 192298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he jobbed < 1301858075 875305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link to his Twitter, BtW? < 1301858081 384240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, internet commentators cannot resist being irritating snooty douchebags: "If I had a choice, I'd take NO beer. If I didn't have a choice, and was faced with the prospect of spending the rest of my life required to drink beer regularly, I'd probably drown myself in the waves." < 1301858093 863434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://twitter.com/qntm. He is forgiven for his slander against J THIS ONE TIME. < 1301858151 742860 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, now I have to google what "ophicleide" is < 1301858162 125246 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, it's a weird brass thing. < 1301858175 405881 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, and why isn't it played any more? < 1301858216 599305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there's only room for so many brass instruments? < 1301858221 405415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tau is the Dvorak of trigonometry." < 1301858224 195630 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah fair enough < 1301858228 67410 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAM HUGHES AGREES WITH ME HAH < 1301858236 362868 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHERE IS PIKHQ I MUST GLOAT < 1301858238 870109 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you like Dvorak music? < 1301858254 589169 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm* < 1301858255 751552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suspiciously plausible hypothesis proposed on Metafilter: Simon Pegg and Nick Frost are Sam Vimes and Fred Colon. < 1301858259 634084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMFGYESYESYSEYSYEYSEYSYEYSESY < 1301858265 525365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT WAS ALSO PROPOSED ON REDIT < 1301858267 363941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*REDDIT < 1301858277 484370 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh the keyboard layout? < 1301858280 724323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO SHUT UP YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A METAFILTER ACCOUNT < 1301858424 996889 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : SAM HUGHES AGREES WITH ME HAH < 1301858457 427608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: mathematician, code monkey and hard-science-fiction author, before you possibly ask < 1301858494 504855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It's like Evolution of Dance—a collection of kicky songs, just substitute dancing for the tribal drumming of a self-crafted PVC pipe instrument. 19 songs in 8 minutes. [more inside] < 1301858498 796213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: EVERYTHING PVC IS GREGOR RELATED < 1301858627 12183 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already TOLD you who Sam Hughes was, duh < 1301858632 905619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: SAME GUY < 1301858723 154102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/looflirpa/e8d9/ ;; thinkgeek, always like 17 years behind! < 1301858812 646062 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301858818 638272 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 years eh? < 1301858824 406960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. :P < 1301858857 703228 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/looflirpa/e8b8/ < 1301858871 215316 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the images have reached china or some other place stereotypically heartless towards pets and made someone try it for real < 1301858888 219970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: yeah well, sometimes a cigar is just a light saber < 1301858894 886291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: WE CAN ONLY HOPE < 1301858899 143500 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301858939 175242 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 QUIT :Client Quit < 1301858942 362195 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure TA-TK likes me :/ < 1301858984 679746 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She called me "babes" (outloud, so I don't know if she'd spell it like that) and "boo" and "swee" (I think that was cut off) < 1301859086 886249 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-113.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301859087 87819 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-113.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1301859087 87964 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1301859109 114821 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am quite amused by the idea of a shelf in the library coming on to Sgeo. < 1301859132 855489 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TL-UA, on the other hand, won't give me the time of day..." < 1301859140 467905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOSWEE < 1301859163 220429 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, she said "my sweet" < 1301859168 179260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: Man, you ain't lived til you been with some of dat Dewey decimal material < 1301859210 107340 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, since when does "I'm pretty sure likes me" deserve to be followed by the emoticon ":/"? < 1301859220 630264 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301859229 658913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on who :/ < 1301859236 689211 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, since I've come to the conclusion a while ago that she's a boring idiot. < 1301859241 18361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Hitler likes me :/ < 1301859241 302950 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, well, a bookshelf would be blind and unable to move, so Sgeo would probably be attracted to it anyway. < 1301859242 425607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot :/ < 1301859253 136482 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I would think it would quantize to :) or :( pretty soundly in most cases, is all. < 1301859255 952247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, he's proposed to me and everything :/ < 1301859260 681964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: now I'm trying to mentally imagine a cross between :/ and !, interrobang-style < 1301859262 284268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And threatened to kill me if I don't marry him :/ < 1301859269 305219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sort of neutral about this :/ < 1301859286 245336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So wait, which one is TA-TK? < 1301859292 683302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that KT-AT? < 1301859292 848475 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the "programmer" < 1301859295 453905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is another one TA-TK. < 1301859296 848875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I LOSE TRACK. < 1301859299 40170 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another one < 1301859300 914980 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not KT-AT < 1301859312 346810 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone decided that "Other" was not a good enough moniker < 1301859458 449086 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1301859471 983299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Probably me < 1301859474 5345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI OKLOPOL < 1301859476 280597 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1301859477 765067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE A MASTER < 1301859482 64184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literlaly loll < 1301859486 35089 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahajhahahaha < 1301859493 727741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHHIOAHAHOAIJHAIOJHOEJIJOIJNHSKREJWHDP[Q] < 1301859497 955376 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehheahehehehehehehehehehehaw < 1301859499 66462 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :se < 1301859505 424404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kjnesfrdldfglvcx < 1301859508 442018 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :t3q4w5yj6ue4tgqrthyetwrqgthekliuolikurjyeuio'p < 1301859509 407556 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :r5deio'ple3't0sl5edoP < 1301859509 661049 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'tf'g < 1301859510 975044 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hy8ftghgfduiohpjkp'o< < 1301859545 867200 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly: oklo < 1301859612 201779 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : literlaly loll <-- laughing out loudly loud? < 1301859620 408045 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sticks "t3q4w5yj6ue4tgqrthyetwrqgthekliöäuolikurjyeuio'p" into Google Translate < 1301859633 503687 :impomatic!~chatzilla@244.68.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.5.18/20110319140258] < 1301859642 653964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: its clever for "asljasd" < 1301859642 818486 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Maltese to English translation" < 1301859670 540097 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION clicks "Listen"! < 1301859677 277648 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, it means "Piranhas in your hovercraft" < 1301859701 664838 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Listen" is not working :( < 1301859719 771047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: it is < 1301859723 300417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: every letter in that sentence is silent < 1301859744 104276 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every letter is pronounced as "Google fails to serve content to browser" < 1301859843 155382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1301859977 633118 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey I found a new "hat" for Gregor! < 1301859983 120081 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh < 1301859991 741818 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, two new < 1301860000 760591 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/hats-ties/beac/ and http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/hats-ties/b53e/ < 1301860086 14389 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wierd spec neither defines the size of values on the stack nor what happens if you try to pop an empty stack. < 1301860111 66064 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, thinkgeek really makes me hate being alive < 1301860133 495724 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote wow, thinkgeek really makes me hate being alive < 1301860138 59186 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :347) wow, thinkgeek really makes me hate being alive < 1301860169 414140 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: why? < 1301860180 256520 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, heh < 1301860216 472999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Wierd spec neither defines the size of values on the stack nor what happens if you try to pop an empty stack. < 1301860220 476258 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: BECAUSE I HAVE A SOUL, OR I DID, BEFORE I STARTED LOOKING AT THESE PRODUCTS < 1301860230 43661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: just steal a convenient type of values on the stack from TURKEY BOMB < 1301860240 626886 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: what's wrong with the products? < 1301860245 760966 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Befunge-93 doesn't define what happens if you try to p or g outside of the 80x25 area < 1301860360 995343 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if someone else tries that either! < 1301860415 634967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: You should implement -98 next ;D < 1301860430 299389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, ooh, or jumping to -1 is exciting, my old language that NOBODY HAS EVER GIVEN ANY LOVE EVER < 1301860450 555338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that was yours? < 1301860456 83359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1301860469 68290 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : catseye: You should implement -98 next ;D <-- what about the y coordinate issue you found? < 1301860472 333881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1301860476 828336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what? < 1301860538 913293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still not sure whether it's TC or not < 1301860573 165532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't actually looked at it < 1301860575 366420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the name's painful < 1301860581 883428 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ooh, ooh, or jumping to -1 is exciting, my old language that NOBODY HAS EVER GIVEN ANY LOVE EVER <-- which language? < 1301860587 431749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Jumping_to_-1_is_exciting < 1301860590 191511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax of that "spec" is < 1301860592 738155 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, *oh* < 1301860596 872045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :command name stack trace -> result < 1301860600 729574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack track = right-most is top of stack < 1301860607 548319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# is a pick type instruction thing < 1301860608 861422 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, *that* was that name < 1301860615 837433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: wat < 1301860634 336840 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I searched for "or jumping to -1 is exciting" :P < 1301860657 993302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1301860693 92693 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what y coordinate issue? < 1301860697 113587 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :blahbot` in #esoteric can run this. < 1301860701 234365 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, sec < 1301860705 554729 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm implementing Wierd next, btw. < 1301860708 169636 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It deserves it < 1301860734 179122 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 vector containing the least point which contains a non-space cell, relative to the origin (env) < 1301860734 383548 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 vector containing the greatest point which contains a non-space cell, relative to the least point (env) < 1301860734 383733 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : These two vectors are useful to give to the o instruction to output the entire program source as a text file. < 1301860742 965158 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, I remember elliott found some issue with that < 1301860747 971352 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot the details. Ask him < 1301860768 701328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude we've been over this < 1301860771 337206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it really matter :P < 1301860776 486019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Wierd, but also SNUSP < 1301860777 102328 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well catseye doesn't know < 1301860822 264443 :Slereah!~buttes@ANantes-259-1-107-19.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301860877 80311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301860881 274326 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I...that's one of the things FBBI still fails at. It doesn't shrink those bounds if you overwrite the edges with space. < 1301860887 964771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the issue < 1301860892 161319 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realize that < 1301860897 243289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1301860902 737767 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no one is saying what the issue is < 1301860903 110960 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, I think it was something like the way it was written it meant that it wasn't usable by o in fact. < 1301860905 524924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfunge breaks that too unless you compile it explicitly stating you want it to not be broken < 1301860916 739116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slowdown.b98 was designed to completely screw with that effect, IIRC < 1301860916 904751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: 1 vector containing the least point which contains a non-space cell, relative to the origin (env) < 1301860918 225773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: that's not < 1301860920 851797 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the default is for "not broken" there < 1301860921 493653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: the top-left of the bounding box < 1301860927 444451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: that's the least _occupied_ point < 1301860933 84689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bounding box could be much bigger < 1301860943 979600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: now, you could say that "these two vectors are useful to give to the o instruction" overrides this, but < 1301860949 211000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: (1) "useful" is subjective, < 1301860949 484911 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok < 1301860953 114811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: (2) that's in italics, < 1301860960 861575 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it isn't < 1301860961 492069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: (3) the other sentences are far more precise than it < 1301860962 751190 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm not saying that < 1301860963 911934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh < 1301860964 862548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well whatever < 1301860965 551672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1301860966 517716 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in http://catseye.tc/projects/funge98/doc/funge98.html#Sysinfo < 1301860969 229863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : slowdown.b98 was designed to completely screw with that effect, IIRC < 1301860974 786446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, it's just meant to create a huge fungespace < 1301860977 364926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that wrapping takes ages < 1301860984 160981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: doesn't it then remove the original program? < 1301860987 357202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that something else? < 1301860996 821063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, i think it's something to do with bounds though :) < 1301861005 962951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that cfunge with bounds shrinking doesn't handle < 1301861007 346279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ccbi does < 1301861015 49475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(handle = without taking years) < 1301861042 964067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: So is there an official Yoob API for implementing Yoobular Environments? :-P < 1301861044 680484 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301861045 911242 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't plan to fix that in FBBI fwiw. The only thing left that I plan to fix is that it reports that { or something "pushes a strange storage offset" or something, without telling me what it is < 1301861067 878809 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not yet. API still fluid < 1301861077 959893 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stupid < 1301861080 434765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: bah. i'd prefer you locked it into a matrix of solidity!!!! < 1301861082 195471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1301861092 619737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also are there plans to make the 2d editors more... 2d friendly < 1301861106 740121 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1301861123 421091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least make them work overwriting, not inserting? < 1301861145 37382 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-120-105.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301861175 398747 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't plan to fix that in FBBI fwiw. The only thing left that I plan to fix is that it reports that { or something "pushes a strange storage offset" or something, without telling me what it is <-- "without telling me what it is" is *very* typical of mycology < 1301861203 754410 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main purpose, for now, is to showcase the languages. If you are doing serious editing of programs in the languages, you're free to use an offline editor and copy and paste. (If you want to save your work, you have to do this anyway.) < 1301861262 522853 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I have a rudimentary implementation of Wierd, completely untested. I guess that'll be my next step, but... later < 1301861284 320287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you up the maximum speed, too? I'm watching this particularly slow program churn. :p < 1301861287 354755 :Sadhu788543!~rooms@117.199.3.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301861287 858141 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if there's a Befunge-111, y will reflect >:) < 1301861290 95688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301861297 715976 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's on the todo list < 1301861299 771816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge-111 should just specify everything :P < 1301861304 998309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FILE IO IS MANDATORY ... or preferably nonexistent < 1301861317 645950 :Sadhu788543!~rooms@117.199.3.71 PART :#esoteric < 1301861333 563474 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spec should just be an implementation... in some horribly underspec'ed language < 1301861349 511901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, python < 1301861366 742956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoob's rng sucks. this befunge program will never end. < 1301861368 609862 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. without giving a version number, too < 1301861376 37385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it rely on python 1.5 quirks < 1301861376 201977 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're watching anagram, huh < 1301861379 405710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1301861387 300806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i modified hello to have some stupid directions and then a bunch of ?s < 1301861388 566140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in lines < 1301861389 400194 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? that one takes forever for me < 1301861390 451064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff < 1301861394 927976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm waiting for it to go back to real code < 1301861396 161220 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using Java's stock RNG, blame it < 1301861397 768838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just dancing around the ?s < 1301861399 414408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1301861405 469240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i want a higher max speed :-P < 1301861416 435597 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, idea: allow you to specify a sequence to be used by the RNG... < 1301861429 919831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts a @ in a lone square on the board, surrounded by ?s < 1301861433 891336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD LUCK TERMINATING, PROGRAM < 1301861633 60716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: post hitting @, buttons do not allow me to restart program. they act as if it's still running but stop is greyed out. weird. < 1301861636 595656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can edit and press done to fix. < 1301861640 739893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i'm just sleep-deprived < 1301861705 260325 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-120-105.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301861708 684351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm this time it worked < 1301861783 105425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: also you might want to reverse the stack display < 1301861788 540199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you don't have to scroll when the stack gets big < 1301861906 528345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, >_ is cool < 1301861911 445098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it holds the @ until it eats up all the stack :) < 1301861913 334660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or gets to a 0 < 1301861920 439500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1301861921 287544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the @ < 1301861922 37768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ip < 1301861960 501391 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-69-33.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301861960 807677 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reset should totally work after @... if it doesn't then, eh < 1301861966 739615 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bugs bugs bugs < 1301862393 287215 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301862441 782815 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301862713 68325 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301862870 598974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: i can't seem to copy output < 1301862895 339725 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably you can't < 1301862989 38903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301863010 139512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, start does nothing, stop does nothing, both leave the program running :) < 1301863018 620655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1301863021 668578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :run makes it go twice as fast < 1301863023 422931 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not shitting you < 1301863031 315969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1301863032 837723 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, probably started two execution threads < 1301863037 867158 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hit that once < 1301863053 576712 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : i have no idea how it gets into the state where that's possible < 1301863068 572609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, strong-typed languages, eh < 1301863081 57449 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, threads, eh < 1301863097 490269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no specifically i'm now referring to the fact that i can't edit befunge-93 without the applet blanking :D < 1301863115 168425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries going through an example rather than the about screen < 1301863130 885288 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... don't use the about screen, then < 1301863144 770994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: then why does it enable the edit button! < 1301863153 463447 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get what you pay for < 1301863216 815085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: btw i think that in -93, ps and gs to x,y coords should be moduloed < 1301863224 698900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that makes random programs do more fun things ;D < 1301863268 105760 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i have a headache :/ < 1301863269 949191 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :later < 1301863271 409084 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-92-188-9.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1301863626 265417 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PART :#esoteric < 1301863672 969363 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : run makes it go twice as fast <-- that is so awesome < 1301863689 791350 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :starts out in walking mode, until you press run < 1301863722 626080 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : yeah, probably started two execution threads <-- shouldn't that cause sync issues? < 1301863765 659602 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, :p < 1301863777 437737 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : i think i have a headache :/ <-- wait, did you try to implement ais523's Feather? < 1301863810 115913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: DON'T INFECT HIM TOO! < 1301863820 797893 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Featherfeatherfeather < 1301863849 563875 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, :P < 1301863878 700625 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you using caps like that feels so weird. Almost as much as if fizzie would... < 1301864009 321585 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarf fortress has both "sandy loam" and "loamy sand"... I'm not sure what the difference is as such. < 1301864028 185732 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems obvious to me. < 1301864035 482906 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh? < 1301864046 36417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sandy loam is predominantly loam, loamy sand predominantly sand. < 1301864058 663560 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, both however work the same when it comes to in game mechanics < 1301864100 889016 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: OH NO, IS THIS WEIRD? < 1301864129 299092 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well it fails, since it is triggered by this specific instance < 1301864136 20030 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you doing it naturally < 1301864141 951606 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :like elliott does < 1301864284 940816 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301864322 683001 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 2009-03-09 01:21:53 elliott: WATER MEMORY. < 1301864333 52262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301864349 285973 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that was more than two years ago! < 1301864355 127981 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it proves my point < 1301864358 837426 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-01-22 14:15:17 PURE MADNESSNESS < 1301864359 259087 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: BUT THE WATER REMEMBERS < 1301864360 855101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BULLDOZER WEASELS < 1301864362 261031 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you have grown as a person < 1301864371 172316 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah... okay < 1301864380 601546 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you don't do it very often though < 1301864382 426892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you fabricated that quote. what pure madnessness. < 1301864394 450867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: QUICK HOW MANY ALL-CAPS STATEMENTS HAVE I MADE < 1301864406 440762 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : I WOULD NEVER FABRICATE A QUOTE < 1301864408 15612 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There are several instances of one or two full-uppercase things but very few that would have nothing else. < 1301864421 736251 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it is the nothing else bit that counts < 1301864426 128915 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well, a nick is allowed < 1301864449 593915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote it is from 2002 though, I was younger then < 1301864453 25025 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :348) it is from 2002 though, I was younger then < 1301864461 603659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 2002 < 1301864462 629176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301864467 448729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote olsner < 1301864467 738962 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wait, when did he say that < 1301864468 420616 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :174) i think of languages as tools, there is no holy grail of languages even if there's no holy grail, that doesn't mean cups of crap is ok \ 221) DAMN YOU, I'm leaving olsner, FINALLY NOTHING BETWEEN ME AND WORLD DOMINATION! \ 237) elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are < 1301864475 587237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 2010-11-01 < 1301864481 874515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:44:47 `addquote it is from 2002 though, I was younger then < 1301864483 758854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never got added < 1301864494 213778 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :" olsner, FINALLY NOTHING BETWEEN ME AND WORLD DOMINATION!" <-- wait what? < 1301864504 231800 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks < 1301864505 517502 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1301864548 433866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oklopol < 1301864549 287854 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :37) i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. \ 39) anyway, torture would be fun to experience, true should put that on my todo list \ 42) i'm my dad's unborn sister \ 55) GregorR: are you talking about ehird's virginity or your soda beer? \ 67) < 1301864560 544455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes oklopol < 1301864561 601446 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.9627 < 1301864621 186742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :223) well i just ate some stuff and watched family guy and i own a piano and i'm not wearing socks < 1301864621 386170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :poetry < 1301864631 366025 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1301864675 726057 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :110) oklopol geez what are you doing here ...i don't know :< i actually ate until now, although i guess i also did other things... < 1301864677 59925 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1301864683 399830 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, who was fax now again? < 1301864691 129613 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that few quotes :o < 1301864695 240885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon quantumEd MissPiggy j-invariant etc. etc. etc. < 1301864700 258429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1301864700 757480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1301864701 246899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1301864704 831296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a chance to use the best latin < 1301864705 323402 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought there were many quotes of me < 1301864705 928531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*et alia < 1301864707 661530 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1301864708 943711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: there are < 1301864710 588696 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequote olsner < 1301864711 607836 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301864712 972590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: because yours are all the best < 1301864715 63409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: pastequotes < 1301864715 633777 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1301864718 300028 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1301864721 119626 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so that was not all? < 1301864721 294817 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes olsner < 1301864722 244827 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10188 < 1301864732 9637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that was all. they were best. < 1301864735 863728 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, "348) it is from 2002 though, I was younger then" is there < 1301864738 919395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes ehird|elliott|alise < 1301864740 19858 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1469 < 1301864747 410364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooo < 1301864750 491068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm the master of the quotes < 1301864754 423534 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the issue is that `quote 2002 looks for *quote number 2002* < 1301864754 686920 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's so few, i thought there'd be at least 10 more < 1301864758 673448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: o rite :D < 1301864760 548229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote (2002) < 1301864761 472074 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :348) it is from 2002 though, I was younger then < 1301864770 658895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well keep saying funny things < 1301864775 807161 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, regex? < 1301864778 272695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes < 1301864780 599889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19) ehird has gone insane, clearly. < 1301864781 268205 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1301864781 432426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1301864783 148357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i missing something < 1301864785 61085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get the jok < 1301864786 940351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1301864801 687215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1301864802 46699 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'll have to get depressed another day < 1301864802 752511 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27220 < 1301864803 10936 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah it doesn't seem funny at all. Just a matter of fact. :P < 1301864806 951882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only want quotes actually directed at me) < 1301864815 798855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone mind if i remove it, we have Standards < 1301864818 246387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: does depressed=funny? < 1301864826 108208 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301864830 2202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes <(ehird|elliott|alise)> < 1301864831 1564 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10749 < 1301864840 145967 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i thought depressed = not funny, but then i realized oerjan is all about jokes < 1301864846 541182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes <(ehird|elliott|alise)> < 1301864847 320612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.2939 < 1301864848 952017 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301864850 602871 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oklopol < 1301864851 39065 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that he's all that funny < 1301864851 515736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :37) i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. \ 39) anyway, torture would be fun to experience, true should put that on my todo list \ 42) i'm my dad's unborn sister \ 55) GregorR: are you talking about ehird's virginity or your soda beer? \ 67) < 1301864855 639582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this not working < 1301864856 356213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY < 1301864857 317301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHYYYYY < 1301864861 663168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes \<(ehird|elliott|alise)\> < 1301864862 741692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.13301 < 1301864866 455128 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : not that he's all that funny <-- is he depressed? < 1301864867 368285 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote lawl < 1301864868 390205 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :85) <@Lawlabee> Why does Monday start at 10PM on Sunday? \ 94) hahaha, Lawlabee is running windows 'cuz it's pretty awesome. \ 95) [Warrigal] `addquote hahaha, Lawlabee is running windows 'cuz it's pretty awesome. [Lawlabee] Warrigal: :( \ 112) Making a small shrine to Lawlabee < 1301864872 621854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: protip pastequotes < 1301864874 269889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(WHEN IT WORKS) < 1301864876 13897 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: < 1301864882 325960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote <(ehird|elliott|alise)> < 1301864883 198925 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301864886 37201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote <(ehird|elliott|alise).*> < 1301864886 788999 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, yes? < 1301864887 38444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301864887 834493 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1301864891 925871 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 112 < 1301864892 350501 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301864892 717253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :112) Making a small shrine to Lawlabee in my basement is something I should get around to at some point. < 1301864894 307394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote || < 1301864895 260327 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301864897 527104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1301864900 534296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1301864901 498391 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301864903 717892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1301864904 631614 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1301864904 796034 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301864904 960353 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did I say that? < 1301864909 22527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \ < 1301864909 935863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301864917 450182 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : No output. <-- you what < 1301864919 440332 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should prolly go to work < 1301864919 604332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote [<]elliott[>] < 1301864920 523133 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301864926 329934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oisdjosidjfoisjfsjfosijdfoisjdfiojdofjisf < 1301864927 15685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oisjfosdjf < 1301864927 488034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :soijf < 1301864927 956214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :soifj < 1301864930 767284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/quote < 1301864931 164256 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokoko < 1301864932 170139 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokoko < 1301864932 805498 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/quote < 1301864933 804273 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okoko < 1301864934 584792 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1301864944 255792 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whuff whuff whuff wharrgarbl. < 1301864946 681118 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1301864949 883273 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :babies \ bin \ bluhbluh \ env \ foo \ paste \ ps \ quine \ quotes \ test \ test.c \ tmpdir.19865 < 1301864951 788014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run egrep -i "<(elliott|alise|ehird)>" quotes < 1301864952 957528 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : so i can only conclude that it is flawed, or the world is utterly bonkers \ IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. Gegrusset seist du der Fuhrer Hitler! \ SUPLENTES EN UN UNIVERSO (MUSSOLINI CUANDO CONQUISTO EL MUNDO): < 1301864961 919531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run allquotes | egrep -i "<(elliott|alise|ehird)>" | paste < 1301864963 223743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.4003 < 1301864969 572615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tada < 1301864978 739881 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1301864979 892709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote \ allquotes \ botsnack \ calc \ commands \ creatures \ define \ delquote \ esolang \ etymology \ fuck \ google \ imdb \ json \ karma \ marco \ minifind \ paste \ pastenquotes \ pastequotes \ penis \ ping \ quine \ quote \ quotes \ rec \ roll \ runasperl \ runfor \ rungcc \ sayhi \ strfile \ swedish \ toutf8 \ translate < 1301864986 325691 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`penis < 1301864987 110136 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a program. I don't /have/ genitals. < 1301864987 427236 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why didn't it work? < 1301864991 878176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: god knows < 1301864995 555154 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301864995 883947 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's raining! < 1301864998 396875 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, should be debugged? < 1301865004 155865 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is babies? < 1301865029 406946 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis < 1301865030 388079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatis what? < 1301865034 266433 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1301865036 352055 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis babies < 1301865037 210804 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865041 132758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`man ed! ed man < 1301865042 152266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865042 316673 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there, you know < 1301865047 697336 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: babies is little human < 1301865048 365738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis love < 1301865049 163847 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865050 780098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`baby dont hurt me < 1301865051 607424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865054 44627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dont hurt me < 1301865054 884639 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865055 523353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nomore < 1301865056 493645 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat babies < 1301865056 657152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865056 657244 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis whatis < 1301865057 657087 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865058 584773 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865065 471925 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`type whatis < 1301865066 356213 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865066 867278 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure `cat actually works. < 1301865072 32402 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`type babies < 1301865072 906314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865087 370848 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run type whatis < 1301865087 943152 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think you get a syntax error from if [ "$(($1+0))" = "$1" ] . < 1301865088 209536 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatis is /usr/bin/whatis < 1301865093 11969 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run whatis whatis < 1301865093 858276 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865094 925702 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1301865100 324101 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, why doesn't whatis work? < 1301865119 283093 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it hates you. < 1301865120 783881 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bin/quote '' 2>&1 < 1301865121 781312 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/quote: line 3: +0: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "+0") \ /usr/bin/nl: write error: Broken pipe < 1301865124 176567 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, like that. < 1301865125 962041 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, no man pages installed? < 1301865131 677187 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1301865134 539961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD FIX IT SMARTARSE :| < 1301865140 339066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: (thx for finally finding the elusive bug) < 1301865151 505431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I propose "sed", it's how I wrote the thing after all. Well, that and echo. < 1301865170 381740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mayhaps $(("$1"+0)) would suffice? < 1301865182 559142 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need the +0? < 1301865217 182987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see if it's a numbra < 1301865224 435056 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1301865227 535807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $(("nozzles >-4"+0) < 1301865228 465051 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865228 944664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $(("nozzles >-4"+0)) < 1301865229 912956 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865232 305467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $(("nozzles >-4"+0)) 2>&1 < 1301865233 214191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865238 386845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c 'echo $(("nozzles >-4"+0))' 2>&1 < 1301865239 260037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/bash: "nozzles >-4"+0: syntax error: operand expected (error token is ""nozzles >-4"+0") < 1301865254 354223 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know how it manages to work for most non-numbers. < 1301865259 41454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/quote < 1301865259 967795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/quote < 1301865260 488898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It doesn't. < 1301865289 800667 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, use bash regex match < 1301865317 481672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/if [ "$(($1+0))" = "$1" ]; then/if expr "$1" + 0 2>/dev/null; then/' bin/quote < 1301865318 400418 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865327 982523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, didn't replace < 1301865337 774094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/if \[ "$(($1+0))" = "$1" \]; then/if expr "$1" + 0 2>/dev/null; then/' bin/quote < 1301865338 737703 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865352 610164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/if \[ "$\(\($1+0\)\)" = "$1" \]; then/if expr "$1" + 0 2>/dev/null; then/' bin/quote < 1301865353 303579 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you fail at sed < 1301865353 486314 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865354 519879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESCAPE EVERYTHING < 1301865356 875762 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i had like an epileptic fit and tried to get help here, i bet you bastards would just let me die < 1301865360 658349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yep < 1301865361 875937 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, $ needs to be escaped < 1301865369 168901 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you < 1301865372 513564 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew it < 1301865381 471773 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm switch those < 1301865384 643328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ if.*/ if expr "$1" + 0 2>/dev/null; then/' bin/quote < 1301865385 471737 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865390 559685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1301865392 225327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that not work < 1301865398 872897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1301865399 113202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dur < 1301865406 793309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's! if.*! if expr "$1" + 0 2>/dev/null; then!' bin/quote < 1301865407 632081 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865420 981397 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301865421 622263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bin/quote '' 2>&1 < 1301865422 705310 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :229) Vorpal loves the sodomy. elliott, sure why not \ 230) [...] ALWAYS OPEN TO TRYING NEW THINGS. \ 231) So it's not exactly trivial. [Later about same thing] It's a trivial C program :P \ 239) ONLY GOOD QUOTES PLEASE! AND NO FAKE ONES EITHER! \ 240) * pikhq sticks < 1301865425 717881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1301865429 79334 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I love your HackEgo-editing style. < 1301865431 41316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote trivial C < 1301865431 825613 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :231) So it's not exactly trivial. [Later about same thing] It's a trivial C program :P < 1301865432 247723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I DO TOO < 1301865444 695901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It makes me feel so manly, 'cuz you know what, I could do that on an actual teletypewriter. < 1301865451 278986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, with a live "cat" window :P < 1301865463 63268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes me feel so 70S. < 1301865507 544762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's trivial, but not exactly trivial < 1301865520 871564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's find out how profane we are! < 1301865530 670819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes shit|fuck|crap|dammit|damn < 1301865531 710926 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.8277 < 1301865538 880132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Worst list of top-of-head curses ever.) < 1301865543 963420 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you could get a current going in a ring shaped super-conductor < 1301865544 867055 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :poopie < 1301865546 880376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :answer: not as profane as i thought < 1301865549 4698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote poopie < 1301865550 72229 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865554 930319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RECTIFICATION REQUIRED < 1301865559 998915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addq... no, i can't < 1301865560 829226 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301865564 352278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would just be too low < 1301865589 750289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :280) ooh I want to see ehird pole dancing I think that would be illegal. oh you are right damn :/ < 1301865589 983438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still have no idea what that was about < 1301865600 883861 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, nor do I < 1301865602 490803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i think the best feature of my quote system is that whenever you delete a quote < 1301865608 61682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :every quote after it gets renumbered < 1301865610 969515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's wonderfully confusing! < 1301865616 684208 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that is like the worst thing < 1301865623 28250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best thing < 1301865628 980458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most Unixy way to implement it ;DDD < 1301865639 980128 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, lets agree on the middle ground < 1301865644 336741 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the most thing < 1301865647 788040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1301865649 884153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do they even have numbers? < 1301865652 880612 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, thanks < 1301865660 742272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: umm...because...err...fuck you < 1301865666 996299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly for seeing the whole thing in search results i think :D < 1301865678 732007 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that as "why do they have even numbers" < 1301865685 155859 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought it was a philosophical question < 1301865702 830291 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it could've been philosophical as it is < 1301865712 573533 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why even do they numbers have? < 1301865746 480081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wombats < 1301865749 733106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wombats have countries! < 1301865794 456063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: quick, say something funny < 1301865804 250720 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :something funny hagrea:D < 1301865809 596006 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't sopt laughitn < 1301865812 777755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, I can't think of anything funny to say right now < 1301865821 210980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll retroactively edit the above line to be funny when I get Feather working < 1301865832 137428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm going to addquote that now < 1301865840 877375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: soon you will learn not to say unfunny things! < 1301865843 157283 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my feather joke the other day was way better than that < 1301865848 685240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: indeed, that isn't funny < 1301865850 989909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ais523: quick, say something funny something funny hagrea:D can'tä sopt laughitn < 1301865851 845473 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :349) ais523: quick, say something funny something funny hagrea:D can'tä sopt laughitn < 1301865853 141484 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to record changes. < 1301865854 22355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it will be eventually! < 1301865856 398315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :another oklopol quote -- aiee! < 1301865858 692965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ais523: quick, say something funny something funny hagrea:D can'tä sopt laughitn < 1301865859 850041 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :349) ais523: quick, say something funny something funny hagrea:D can'tä sopt laughitn < 1301865860 997863 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to record changes. < 1301865863 497611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ENCODING SHIT < 1301865864 728088 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was not very good :D < 1301865868 36330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ais523: quick, say something funny something funny hagrea:D can'tä sopt laughitn < 1301865868 830810 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :349) ais523: quick, say something funny something funny hagrea:D can'tä sopt laughitn < 1301865870 36127 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to record changes. < 1301865870 760035 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't even a joke man < 1301865872 337730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: FFFF < 1301865874 154122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: DEFAIL IT < 1301865887 151849 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, what have you done here < 1301865907 953463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: oklopol uses latin-1, BUT < 1301865911 269926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I retyped out the second try by hand < 1301865914 447006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that was utf-8 < 1301865929 555143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ais523: quick, say something funny something funny hagrea:D can'tä sopt laughitn < 1301865930 687769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :349) ais523: quick, say something funny something funny hagrea:D can'tä sopt laughitn < 1301865931 883044 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to record changes. < 1301865933 713203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1301865937 197541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :teh b0rk3lde < 1301865947 920012 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's odd, the repo seems to be fine >_> < 1301865958 786101 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay that thing is getting funnier by the minute < 1301865959 115935 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "borkelde"? < 1301865963 36414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : I didn't just override that quote because I hate oklopol <_< < 1301865983 355541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : And I'm not just doing this out of my badly-concealed lust for him >_> < 1301865987 804778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : <_< >_> < 1301865993 200892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes. < 1301866002 331302 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : I didn't just override that quote because I hate oklopol <_< <-- whaaat? < 1301866006 719788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: look at the kinda things gregor says in teh /msgss! ^^ < 1301866008 379212 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :you made that up right? < 1301866011 363799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: NO < 1301866014 865579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not the lust parts either < 1301866016 73501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all true < 1301866019 859839 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, log link < 1301866024 89802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i said < 1301866024 879320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg < 1301866030 754731 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well < 1301866039 247776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i use a vt100 so i can't take a screenshot SORRY < 1301866040 410529 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I don't believe it, until confirmed from Gregor < 1301866049 847509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like he'd admit his true desires :( < 1301866054 704342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when all this time he's learned to bottle them away < 1301866056 752111 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :suuure < 1301866057 390107 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't believe Gregor wants to have sex with me? < 1301866063 126360 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, nope < 1301866068 269122 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1301866070 463740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah doesn't every straight male want to have sex with oklopol < 1301866071 393927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait < 1301866075 89619 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo nicode! > test < 1301866075 993079 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301866076 157036 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-13-16.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1301866077 5245 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to record changes. < 1301866081 675351 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtfbbq ... < 1301866093 569255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo bork bork bоrk >test < 1301866094 736807 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301866095 641592 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to record changes. < 1301866097 711743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ... < 1301866106 891453 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1301866107 94960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo bork bork bork >test < 1301866108 309040 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301866115 255945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: JUST FUCKING WITH YOU, that was a Cyrillic o < 1301866115 983205 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaat < 1301866118 792991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1301866122 1607 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1301866123 487138 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Jackass :P < 1301866126 574000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test < 1301866127 121665 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i do know a straight male who wants to have sex with me < 1301866127 679096 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301866130 695572 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH, I know what the issue is. < 1301866141 163695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: he's just (hetero+oklo)sexual amirite < 1301866192 989034 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo nicode! > test < 1301866193 834415 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301866196 465204 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test < 1301866197 412706 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicode! < 1301866198 647855 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't asked in detail, because he's a random internet dude < 1301866229 78930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test < 1301866229 907797 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1301866234 481002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ais523: quick, say something funny something funny hagrea:D can'tä sopt laughitn < 1301866235 517665 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :349) ais523: quick, say something funny something funny hagrea:D can'tä sopt laughitn < 1301866257 230030 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaat: 07:62/05:34 < 1301866262 529023 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think vlc is broken < 1301866281 676756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens a lot with inaccurate files < 1301866283 254551 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that second counter is counting up. At second rate. < 1301866283 621746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :file formats < 1301866285 743275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what file format is it? < 1301866289 376881 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, flac... < 1301866292 876467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1301866298 113309 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the file must be broken < 1301866300 840753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think flac _does_ include such precise information, but it can get messed up < 1301866301 508364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1301866304 131839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :flac -d and reencode < 1301866312 220448 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but 07:62 < 1301866317 10740 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the 62 bit < 1301866319 215729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1301866319 478895 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1301866320 151917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol :D < 1301866325 308591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well vlc sucks and stuff :) < 1301866342 910733 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah re-encoding atm < 1301866364 598599 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, mplayer is rather annoying. And totem doesn't play a lot of stuff < 1301866364 762974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally arch seem to have made their first good decision lately :) < 1301866370 345336 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and xine is hideous < 1301866371 690718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to not consider switching to the libav fork < 1301866381 612331 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what libav fork? < 1301866388 149360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :background for those who haven't been following: a group of ffmpeg devs were unhappy with the maintainer < 1301866394 360143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they literally tried to perform a coup d'etat < 1301866401 132872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they changed the repo url, the project leaders, etc. on the website < 1301866403 994585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from underneath the maintainer < 1301866407 905052 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1301866408 930066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this understandably cause a lot of upset < 1301866417 218205 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did the maintainer do? < 1301866419 982513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so after about two months of the hostility of two factions sharing the same list < 1301866429 900208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the coup d'etatters (THAT'S A WORD) decided to "rename" ffmpeg < 1301866431 549174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to libav < 1301866439 587023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they posted a name saying our "new release" is under the "new name" libav < 1301866444 549719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then -- and this is where it gets insane -- < 1301866450 116739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say the mailing list is being "renamed and moved" < 1301866454 66198 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it is already insane < 1301866454 409667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so the ffmpeg list will be "shut down shortly" < 1301866458 620316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you will be automatically subscribed to the libav list < 1301866464 516502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ffmpeg list was STILL BEING USED by the original maintainers < 1301866464 863487 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ... that's silly < 1301866466 879683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and developers < 1301866472 764020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: more than silly, it's childish and bullshit < 1301866476 888701 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1301866477 929851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a gentoo dev was one of the forkers, FWIW < 1301866490 522982 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I NO LONGER USE GENTOO! < 1301866491 179730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anyway, fabrice bellard controls the DNS and so handed it back to the original maintainer < 1301866494 387279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1301866502 764639 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that name is familiar < 1301866508 404750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, qemu and ffmpeg founder < 1301866511 171784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tcc author < 1301866513 76703 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1301866513 968370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and god < 1301866521 79897 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, same guy? < 1301866531 14053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like the original maintainer caused some problems but at most that justifies a fork, not a failed hostile takeover followed by trying to systematically shut down the original project's resources < 1301866531 979006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes < 1301866540 96122 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, yes he is one of those awesome guys. Like djb < 1301866541 108648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: also discoverer of bellard's formula for pi < 1301866552 972182 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and jwz < 1301866555 473768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wp says 43% faster than BBP) < 1301866559 324675 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lucky guy, discovering something that had his name on it! < 1301866564 365866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also multiple time IOCCC winner < 1301866568 821309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: :D < 1301866619 971669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anyway yeah, there was a thread on the arch forums (i idly browse every now and then out of morbid curiosity) and one of the devs basically said "i don't like forks so we're not going to consider it" :P < 1301866632 898228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, i eagerly look forward to arch replacing xorg with xfree86 < 1301866640 337161 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, har har < 1301866649 865089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLEEDING EDGE < 1301866652 367060 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what was the original dispute about? < 1301866660 601326 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay bye -> < 1301866664 58013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the maintainer being a pain about applying patches basically < 1301866668 469250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :single point of control, etc. < 1301866672 150613 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301866680 696676 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah... Could be time to fork yes, but in a less childish way < 1301866683 650915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't find it very relevant; i can't really sympathise with them considering the childishness < 1301866696 960876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: afaict they didn't even bother trying to have a serious discussion about it first < 1301866697 650849 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301866703 897425 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, *whops* < 1301866735 963916 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301866778 977284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: seriously though, as a GENTOO USER (;D;D;D), why did they drop support for static linking> < 1301866780 407918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*linking? < 1301866789 980996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i could tell gentoo to statically link everything with musl i might even use it :-D < 1301866796 944046 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, musl? < 1301866802 116941 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway I have no idea < 1301866805 380683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.etalabs.net/musl/ < 1301866812 856358 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, besides wasn't it just a few packages that supported it? < 1301866826 460437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i think you used to be able to build a whole static system? < 1301866839 245840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway gentoo doesn't really have any merits if you can't control every variable of the system :) < 1301866851 82055 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, with some CFLAGS hacking probably < 1301866861 807165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(considering that "this optimisation flag" vs. "this other optimisation flag" doesn't even count as a variable due to being irrelevant) < 1301866865 462048 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, there were some static use-flags before I know < 1301866874 814661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(every (32-bit x86) debian package runs on a 386!) < 1301866887 695348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't see people going around claiming debian is slow :)) < 1301866893 238133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though maybe they do and i just haven't run into them < 1301866899 763769 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, libc comes in multiple variants though < 1301866903 937639 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't those people all use gentoo? < 1301866920 495439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: uh? not ereally < 1301866928 294808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just libc6-i386 here, oh wait this is the 64-bit repo < 1301866929 29344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1301866934 110991 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, cmov one < 1301866935 16287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kernel comes in multiple flavours too < 1301866937 365524 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and non-cmov < 1301866937 528530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :386... < 1301866938 910851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 486 < 1301866939 318619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1301866950 246238 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well yeah that's debian... < 1301866952 919097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there might be a 686 too < 1301866954 550638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think there is < 1301866960 357667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1301866961 762601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :686 < 1301866963 197961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :386, 486, 686 < 1301866969 326773 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and some stuff do CPU detection. Like mplayer < 1301866985 663338 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, point is that cpu generation only matters in a handful of places < 1301866993 422593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "autoconf standard" is -O2 -g right? < 1301866998 352775 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1301867000 343569 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I have no idea < 1301867014 199137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess 90% of debian is -O2 -g -march=i386 then :) < 1301867028 318669 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite probably. < 1301867029 302922 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, *probably* also -mtune=generic these days < 1301867034 363462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right < 1301867043 891698 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, which helps to some degree < 1301867053 468919 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I thought they made a dangerous decision to go all the way to i486 at some point :P < 1301867054 213950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo -Os -march=i386 -mtune=generic would be a better choice nowadays < 1301867069 517523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't -march and -mtune contradict? < 1301867069 974717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nobody uses the debugging info, and the space savings from not having it + the savings from -Os = cache loves you) < 1301867072 498291 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, probably -march=i686 actually < 1301867081 582528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i meant, without breaking compatibility < 1301867083 443533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: GASP < 1301867087 764974 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the debugging info is split out into separate debugging packages < 1301867088 494212 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Not all -march options conflict with all -mtune options. < 1301867089 602838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, -mtune implies "portable to all processors in the group" < 1301867092 168409 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : don't -march and -mtune contradict? <-- no < 1301867093 857945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hmm, interesting < 1301867096 76065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well it's still advertised as i386 and you can still install a 386 kernel < 1301867101 64221 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301867101 396414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i doubt they made that GIGANTIC LEAP < 1301867104 994140 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, cancel that then. < 1301867123 432803 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, debugging info for libc = invaluable < 1301867130 379362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok for libraries yes :-D < 1301867140 402017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apart from like... emacs < 1301867141 204087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like having debug info around < 1301867145 27744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody runs system binaries under gdb < 1301867145 367467 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, IWC has finally confused the hell out of me. < 1301867154 203918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm < 1301867155 643141 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd hate to run emacs under gdb < 1301867160 204544 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have literally no idea what the overriding plot threads have been since... forever. < 1301867162 115611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: some people do it 100% of the time < 1301867167 275770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is debugging info stored inline with code, or is it separated? < 1301867173 392513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the latter, then I guess it won't affect the cache < 1301867173 998978 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, separated < 1301867180 787187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then -Os -g would be the best choice, I guess < 1301867184 504935 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, separate files even these days < 1301867187 391551 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told you above < 1301867194 79928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that might be the best idea, have -dbg packages < 1301867194 243374 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu does it that way at least < 1301867196 672783 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → sleeop < 1301867197 604207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that install into /usr/dbg < 1301867199 253498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1301867199 440739 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also sleep < 1301867201 270258 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Client Quit < 1301867216 119982 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, paths look like /usr/lib/debug/bin/bash iirc < 1301867221 934762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Phantom_Hoover (~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486) has joined #esoteric < 1301867223 370853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MINUTES LATER < 1301867224 82153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Phantom_Hoover has quit (Client Quit) < 1301867238 970596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: right, well, that's what you get for refusing to extend the fhs < 1301867251 966808 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, :D < 1301867279 828383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF WE MAKE /USR/DBG HOW WILL THE ENTERPRISES EVER TRUST THE UBUNTUS AS THE STANDARDS COMPLIANCES < 1301867359 193698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what IS it with airline food^W^Wtiling wms < 1301867399 647768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :airline food's been pretty good IME < 1301867412 49275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although admittedly I've only been on four flights, and get very annoyed at having to use plane travel < 1301867430 699677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in no case did I pay for the flight myself, if I'd had to do that I'd have refused outright < 1301867446 854447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Gregor give up on libc.so? < 1301867459 741063 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refuse to speak of it in this channel. < 1301867468 968673 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, attempt to refuse anyway. < 1301867476 603679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1301867480 853549 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :great way to fail not speaking of it :D < 1301867519 8545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Gregor < 1301867521 707774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc.so < 1301867521 922807 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, did you win libm.so? < 1301867522 414145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc.so < 1301867523 589324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc.so < 1301867529 824320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i didn't say anything about airline food! < 1301867532 310451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked about tiling wms < 1301867541 479498 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refuse to speak of the DETAILS OF THE AUCTION, not the domain itself X_X < 1301867547 581530 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Didn't even try. < 1301867552 153784 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, oh < 1301867553 782732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Is it $800 < 1301867555 406897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Is it $900 < 1301867557 240635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Is it $1000 < 1301867561 258476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Binary search setup phase) < 1301867578 741449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(RIP Yhc!) < 1301867583 611494 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a numeric, integer value greater than 0. < 1301867594 965538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$7000 then. < 1301867599 388874 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Numeric" is redundant here, and "integer greater than 0" could be replaced by "whole number" :P < 1301867801 397430 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, musl looks great < 1301867854 274186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it is < 1301867866 333323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: only C.UTF-8 locale support now, but that's being worked on < 1301867888 811579 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :missing C99 math functions and POSIX priority scheduling options. Damn < 1301867890 396586 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1301867913 148079 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, why would anyone need anything else than C.UTF-8 locale < 1301867927 547602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: C99 math is being worked on :P < 1301867943 379293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Surprisingly enough some things actually use it X-D < 1301867949 809945 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway the locale stuff is a show stopper < 1301867950 819256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. an mpfr testcase I think refused to compile becuase of the lack of... < 1301867952 714572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :roundbyint or something. < 1301867957 216010 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I don't want silly C locale date < 1301867977 446546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No it's not a show-stopper. < 1301867981 453306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an incredibly minor thing that is being added. < 1301867981 780130 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, for me it is < 1301867997 434961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, 3 April 2011 3 April 2011 3 April 2011. < 1301868019 552782 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ date < 1301868019 716106 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sön apr 3 23:59:41 CEST 2011 < 1301868033 673539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Because seeing "3 April 2011" instead of "sön apr 3" affects your entire computing experience. < 1301868042 526235 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is very weird order too I think < 1301868044 635641 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :in date outout < 1301868046 985468 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :output* < 1301868060 49127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is, which is why that locale sucks : < 1301868060 805851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1301868065 907487 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAY OF WEEK IS IRRELEVANT. LITTLE ENDIAN IS IRRELEVANT. SUBMIT TO THE ISO. < 1301868085 804177 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :tLC_ADDRESS="sv_SE.UTF-8" < 1301868086 13069 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_TELEPHONE="sv_SE.UTF-8" < 1301868086 13252 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_MEASUREMENT="sv_SE.UTF-8" < 1301868091 316055 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder where those are actually used < 1301868101 786517 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_PAPER="sv_SE.UTF-8" < 1301868103 204747 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too < 1301868109 419543 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably that selects A4? < 1301868121 635722 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Sweden they use Q12 instead of A4. < 1301868128 264785 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, Q12? < 1301868130 499202 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's measured in fractions of furlongs. < 1301868138 964333 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, per fortnight! < 1301868142 385445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also anyone who sets LC_foo to get /error messages/ and the like in non-English is clearly in need of institutionalisation more than locale support < 1301868145 12513 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes the speed of the papoer < 1301868146 723401 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :paper* < 1301868150 476004 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what matters < 1301868154 42932 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The width is conventionally given in terms of oxtails, but standardized as fractions of furlongs. < 1301868177 574173 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I do this: < 1301868183 544176 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=sv_SE.UTF-8 < 1301868186 2939 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_COLLATE=C < 1301868188 966165 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_MESSAGES=C < 1301868191 189410 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1301868199 424709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: =C? < 1301868203 290301 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes? < 1301868207 99617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :=en_GB.UTF8 or something would provide more reasonable output < 1301868216 96015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially for collation < 1301868222 550970 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: =C guarantees that the bug reports are in the same language that the author wrote it in. < 1301868223 947430 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I wish C.UTF8 worked with glibc < 1301868238 203987 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I do not want messed up sorting < 1301868240 137675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "I'm sorry, you said -ise instead of -ize, WONTFIX" < 1301868243 52316 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I want CASE SENSITIVE sort < 1301868248 534713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Define messed up... < 1301868251 272733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCIIbetal isn't logical :P < 1301868259 975982 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I prefer that one! < 1301868268 965125 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: More like "I am not having good with English, can please error messages with original Portuguese thanks." < 1301868299 58945 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I would go insane at a program doing that! < 1301868299 775514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's a great argument NOT to use =C, I don't fucking know Portuguese :P < 1301868317 131081 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also, I wouldn't WONTFIX a bug for -ise instead of -ize, but I would for zed instead of zee :P < 1301868335 24463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really though, a FOSS project with a lead developer not competent in English is also known as a trainwreck :P < 1301868346 706030 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1301868354 120296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah yeah cultural imperialism, I don't give a shit, the Bible was right, language divisions are a curse. < 1301868360 366351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the Bible right. < 1301868363 637813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: pls to change "prized" to "prizee"? < 1301868369 782077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :prizee :D < 1301868372 698129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :best word < 1301868389 718995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to "prised", ofc < 1301868411 285990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can prizee my spellings from my cold dead hands < 1301868454 469099 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: DONE < 1301868689 631281 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you realise valgrind won't work on statically linked code? < 1301868701 217153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :onoezes!!!111 < 1301868703 568252 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least I don't think it will < 1301868710 626794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I plan to dynlink with musl for kitten < 1301868712 770082 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it won't < 1301868717 710254 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you do? < 1301868722 215145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's working on a dynamic loader that's embedded in the libc itself < 1301868724 784217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not separate < 1301868727 368354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's 0 overhead < 1301868735 633209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'll dynlink libc only < 1301868738 674871 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1301868758 853898 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why not work on @ instead? < 1301868767 665167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said i was working on kitten < 1301868782 934045 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not right now... < 1301868801 832949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can hardly work on @ if i don't have a nice tiling wm can i < 1301868809 816881 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sure you can < 1301868814 215796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i can't < 1301868819 232625 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, okay so write one then < 1301868831 996209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you said i shouldn't work on kitten < 1301868842 41043 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh but run it on ubuntu :P < 1301868850 601330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm going to try out i3 soon. maybe < 1301868960 789350 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1301869398 306705 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many bits would you need if you were doing fourier transforms with fixed point? < 1301869525 362744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on how accurate you'd want the answer to be < 1301869610 432910 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be accurate enough that if you do forward and then reverse on a picture, you should get the same picture, or one very close to the same. < 1301869660 669610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: same as the number of bits as the picture, then < 1301869683 629627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if the picture uses 8-bit color, you need 8-bit transforms < 1301869741 711124 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that be enough? If you are doing real/imaginary instead of amplitude/phase, I mean. < 1301869779 342451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use a different algorithm, I think < 1301869793 211373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look up about algorithsm for doing discrete cosine transforms < 1301869798 623389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the fixed-point version of the fft < 1301869854 324917 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I have found the code for two-dimensional FFT, it uses floating point anthough square root is the only special function used, the others are only multiplication and division. < 1301869873 295368 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely recall that fixed-point FFT needs some care in scaling the numbers during the processing, to avoid large inaccuracies. < 1301870017 309512 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :METAFONT has careful division to ensure not overflow in a 32-bit fixed point, TeXnicard uses the same algorithm but for 64-bit numbers instead. < 1301870043 380828 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the FFT I found, the square root is only used for the sa = sqrt((1.0 - ca) / 2.0); < 1301870044 468594 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if anyone's done jpeg en/decoding on architectures without floating point, they'll have solved this problem < 1301870048 991188 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ca = sqrt((1.0 + ca) / 2.0); < 1301870076 536266 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or DCT anyway, not necessarily FFT < 1301870152 647269 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the value of sa and ca are initialized ca=-1.0 and sa=0.0 with nothing else ever changing ca < 1301870306 650527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301870441 670543 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made a graph of it < 1301871372 651437 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-69-33.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301871383 504223 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1301871539 126898 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I want to add image manipulation into TeXnicard, how many (monochrome) bitmap registers and how many graymap registers should I have? < 1301871649 350361 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-15-160.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301873572 665126 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301873608 298504 :lament_!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301873665 698609 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301873712 280181 :Deewiant_!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1301873746 639207 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1301873749 112471 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1301873749 275462 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :*.net *.split < 1301873749 275611 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1301873750 300684 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1301873754 587472 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1301873754 751655 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1301873756 304698 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1301873757 197707 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the earliest i've ever seen elliott leave < 1301873759 691263 :tswett!~Warrigal@171.64.42.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301873780 870776 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301873781 463610 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1301873781 627273 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1301873878 219767 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: But he ping-timeout'd, not quit. < 1301873931 694306 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's a problem with his connection < 1301873955 457582 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet he just unplugged his computer because he was fed up with us < 1301873996 74135 :variable!~variable@bing63.oneida-a.binghamton.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1301874012 389026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301874045 633634 :variable!~variable@bing63.oneida-a.binghamton.edu NICK :Guest26140 < 1301874052 341905 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301874199 547077 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301874501 331344 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1301874716 488107 :cheater00!~cheater@g229030021.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301874716 651261 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-15-160.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301874756 591333 :lament_!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301874791 217841 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301874806 101365 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301874836 167645 :cheater99!~cheater@e181133177.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1301875108 735269 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-15-160.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric