> 1300572791 407319 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300572791 820302 :glogbot!~glogbot@wb-dhcp2-7.wmiscable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300572805 285712 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, /now/ it shouldn't be so screwy :P < 1300572809 559348 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs > 1300572809 574508 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logs: http://gregorr.dyndns.org:8080/logs/_esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1300572847 183304 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I want to know is in case of TCP/IP drivers that will use those invalid addresses for their internal use, and not conflict with anything since they are invalid. Actually, we should group the invalid addresses into two groups, "driver level" and "application level" invalid groups so that the driver and application program can use their own codes for internal use. < 1300572995 497043 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, if a IPv4 only program tries to connect to a IPv6 only server, then the driver can allocate a temporary IPv4 address for that connection. There might be other uses too; and maybe the application programs can also have their own uses different to these. < 1300573036 910229 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds more like something you should configure on a per-network basis (in which case they can use the private address ranges) and not hardcode anywhere. < 1300573053 668476 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Future Use" block (240/4)? < 1300573099 230888 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's that, though of course technically speaking it wouldn't be impossible for those to be used to something that'd conflict with your home-grown solution. < 1300573453 831732 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purely as a hack you might also be able to do that particular job by allocating different "unlikely" addresses in the 127.0.0.0/8 block and then treating them specially, but of course that's not very legal. < 1300574730 518862 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1300575525 359918 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is, why to designate some are driver level and some as application level. Then it will not conflict. < 1300575696 579024 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300576043 334234 :bsmntbombdood!~gavin@c-24-9-98-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300576106 47745 :bsmntbombdood!~gavin@c-24-9-98-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300576248 202997 :bsmntbombdood!~gavin@c-24-9-98-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300576306 771655 :bsmntbombdood!~gavin@c-24-9-98-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300577660 602409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ping. < 1300577662 258256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ping < 1300577663 800585 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@wb-dhcp2-7.wmiscable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ping < 1300577856 726615 :shachaf!~shachaf@208.69.183.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What is she doing in #esoteric? Is this your doing too? < 1300577864 115348 :shachaf!~shachaf@208.69.183.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell does not qualify as esoteric. < 1300577881 86982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1300577889 789069 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'VE BEEN BACKTRACED < 1300577899 640138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME < 1300577951 333172 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but esoteric qualifies as a haskell < 1300578326 982576 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-2-209.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1300578426 925603 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL HAIL PHANTOM_HOOVER, THE GREAT LAMBDABOT SUMMONER < 1300578459 264826 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GLORIOVS SOCIALIST SUMMONER OF COMRADE LAMBDABOT < 1300578521 808364 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :QVITE < 1300578661 342911 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1300578668 672743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PART :#esoteric < 1300578692 796905 :shachaf!~shachaf@208.69.183.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Take that. < 1300578700 218682 :shachaf!~shachaf@208.69.183.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shouldn't abuse lambdabot bugs, actually. < 1300578705 814689 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1300578716 494280 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs lambdabot  < 1300578724 173936 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I HAVE POWERS BEYOND YOVR IMAGINING < 1300578737 840609 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GLORIOVS SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF ESOTERICA WILL PREVAIL < 1300492845 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu is the Worst Distro. < 1300492900 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Wayland has hardly any features at all. < 1300492901 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Still, Ubuntu is what is used at Free Geek, when I am there I am using the Ubuntu system (although there are things I do not like about it). < 1300492968 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just about all it really does is combine the framebuffers of each program into the graphics card's framebuffer. < 1300493003 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason for this is that APT Guy has write access to its repositories. < 1300493009 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :High-level write access, too. < 1300493024 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has some things I don't like, also there should be a few things added. And then make the window manager as a separate module. < 1300493035 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.115.118.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300493037 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But mostly, Wayland seems good idea. < 1300493047 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What features don't you like about it? < 1300493074 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, based on the fact that this is zzo, it's probably a weird mix of ludditism and hatred of bloat. < 1300493096 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I doubt that making the window manager seperate is all that sane; it actually makes sense for there to be a bit more of a tight binding between compositing and window management these days. < 1300493134 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention that the Wayland design gives a window manager developer much more flexibility. < 1300493134 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I mean, make it a separate module but that both modules are compiled together. < 1300493151 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh. That's kinda-sorta what it actually has going on. < 1300493214 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The intent is to have most of the functionality for compositing and such in a seperate library, so that someone making a specific compositor doesn't have to deal with much boilerplate. < 1300493279 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have it without MIME types. Also without dragging, without non-rectangular windows, no dragging an icon from one window to another, and so on. < 1300493299 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have selection buffers have PRIMARY,SECONDARY,CLIPBOARD like X has. < 1300493304 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIME types is not part of Wayland at all. < 1300493338 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dragging is implemented above. < 1300493338 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I found a XML file that says some things about MIME types, though. < 1300493357 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-rectangular windows? What, you mean how there's an *alpha channel*? < 1300493397 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a Forth interpreter in under 600 bytes :-) < 1300493414 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Well, I don't actually know. But I do not think there should be an alpha channel or shaped windows. < 1300493446 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the format for mouse pointer icons I would have a table with each mouse pointer icon 256 bytes, plus 1 byte to indicate the adjustment for hot spot of mouse pointer icons. < 1300493447 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would take more effort to *not* support an alpha channel. < 1300493468 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could implement a Wayland compositor with such a format. < 1300493493 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, Wayland enforces *even less* policy than X. < 1300493521 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1300493542 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if, there is alpha channel, and it would take more effort to make not support alpha channel, I would do so that using alpha channel is not guaranteed to work, according to my specification. < 1300493554 0 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1300493617 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It is entirely up to the compositor how the alpha channel is handled. < 1300493636 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found also information about notification about the screen size. I would do it only the window manager is allowed to know the screen size, and all other programs only know the size of their window(s) and not the screen size. < 1300493642 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could even be rendered as epilepsy-inducing flashing, if you so like. < 1300493758 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/g6fnk/microsoft_shuts_down_the_worlds_largest_spam/ < 1300493766 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what about games that want to size themselves to the screen? < 1300493768 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should deal with alpha channel in a bit different way: I write a specification that says there is no guarantee as to what will happen when the alpha channel is used, and then make the program to ignore the alpha channel. < 1300493786 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. DNA Maze fullscreens itself if the screen isn't large enough to fit the window it wants to make plus a window border < 1300493789 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and windows itself otherwise < 1300493794 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300493797 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It would be entirely valid for a compositor to do that. < 1300493812 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help but think that it's Microsoft's damn fault in the first place for getting the world into a situation with huge amounts of hardware running a pathetically insecure OS. < 1300493815 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They would specify what size they want. So if they want 640x480 and the screen is larger, the program gets a 640x480 window. < 1300493842 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Part of the *intent* of Wayland is to make full-screen display not a set of hacks. < 1300493843 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, the client area of the window is 640x480, but the border and stuff is added on to that size. < 1300493868 0 :Zuu__!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1300493891 0 :Zuu_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1300493921 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Well, I think it should be up to the user to select full-screen mode (the window manager knows the screen size so that you can push the key combination for full screen and that resizes the window and tells the program that its window size is now [X,Y] where [X,Y] is the screen size. < 1300493986 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program does not need to know whether it is running full screen or not, it only needs to know the size of its window. < 1300494002 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1300494125 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most programs will want to render differently in full-screen mode than not. < 1300494141 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention that it's nice to have the program be able to do it. < 1300494197 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think so. Otherwise you will run two programs that both want full-screen and then you cannot tile the screen into multiple windows anymore. < 1300494281 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to me that it'd be a simple matter for the compositor to just decide against allowing that. < 1300494771 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → sleep < 1300494910 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1300494934 0 :cheater-!~cheater@g229031216.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1300495088 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1300495291 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b964e5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300496315 0 :Zuu__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1300498457 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1300498504 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1300498924 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300499028 0 :catseye!~catseye@adsl-99-74-80-211.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300499418 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 bytes per mouse pointer icon may be too much, maybe 65 bytes for each icon is OK (one byte is for adjustment for hot spot) < 1300499702 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cpressey < 1300499800 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what you are talking about, because i haven't read the logs, because my web browser thinks they are BIN files and wants to download them instead of letting me read them, so i will give you advice based on complete ignorance: you should use a compiled sprite for the mouse pointer icon < 1300499841 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-16-132.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1300499841 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1300499841 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1300499901 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way the hotspot can be recomputed on the fly as a function of mouse speed < 1300499927 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Can you prepend "view-source:" to make them ignore as binary file? Some browser can do that. < 1300500003 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1300500003 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1300500018 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is a compiled sprite used and how the hotspot is recomputed like that? < 1300500045 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: view-source: worked! you are my hero for tonight < 1300500141 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a compiled sprite is just any code: the intention is that it draws a sprite at (x,y), but there is of course no good way to enforce that. likewise, the hotspot could be a function that... takes (x,y) and returns (xh,yh), i suppose < 1300500156 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm just being silly < 1300500185 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to boot this recovery disc to see if i can get a windows bootloader back on this machine < 1300500203 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will probably be back in a bit... unless something goes horribly wrong < 1300500214 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1300500307 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1300500598 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zulEMWj3sVA <-- best Ohhhhh ching chong ling long ting tong response ever < 1300500937 0 :cpressey!~Chris@adsl-99-74-80-211.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300500978 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! installing ubuntu only confused windows, it did not destroy it. and the recovery disc knew what was wrong immediately and fixed it without hassle. < 1300500987 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now, back to ubuntu < 1300500990 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1300501214 0 :cpressey!~catseye@adsl-99-74-80-211.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300501331 0 :augur!~augur@pool-173-73-127-19.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300501389 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of text files that are binary files that are text files: it appears that it is not possible to open mycology.b98 in gedit. it just freaks out and asks you to reselect the encoding ad infinitum < 1300501779 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I implemented Befunge-93 in yoob and I'm looking to test it) < 1300502217 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300502243 0 :augur!~augur@pool-173-73-127-19.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300502279 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I think of 65 bytes is two planes of 32 bytes each, 1 bit per pixel of 16x16, one plane for transparent/opaque, one plane for black/white; and one byte for the hotspot, which is 4 bits for X hotspot and 4 bits for Y hotspot. And then perhaps have 16 standard mouse icons. < 1300502308 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :running sanity.bf in Befunge-93 results in an infinite loop when the PC gets to the 'v' in the word 'invalid' < 1300502400 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: having an entire plane for transparency makes it easier to implement, but it wastes a tiny bit of space (assuming transparent white and transparent black display the same) < 1300502416 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should read the log to find out what you're talking about < 1300502595 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Yes that would waste space but makes it simpler. And it does not waste too much space if they are only 16x16 icons and only 16 such icons are loaded at one time. < 1300502933 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ol' bef seems to fail mycology's test for Go West, which seems unlikely to be true < 1300502997 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably loads the long lines wrong or something < 1300503444 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1300503636 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/ICPT Facebook fun < 1300503814 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i think i see. if there are >80 characters on a line, the remainder get wrapped onto the next line. fun < 1300504270 0 :cheater99!~cheater@g224203073.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1300504309 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300504378 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i were king, all compiler error messages would contain the word 'somewhat' < 1300504414 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo.c:391: somewhat missing semicolon < 1300504499 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yurf, it works now < 1300505112 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, all error messages can be replaced with "I have no idea what the fuck is going on, but something is wrong here" < 1300505125 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo.c:391: I have no idea what the fuck is going on, but something is wrong here < 1300505131 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First referenced in foo.h:32: I have no idea what the fuck is going on, but something is wrong here < 1300507156 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1300507212 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-68.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300507560 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how are you planning to implement it? is this for Wayland, or X-windows, or whatever that is that was being discussed? < 1300507592 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I playe a Pokemon battle against my friend < 1300507670 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: not sure if you care, but: bef's # has different behavior depending if it's on the north or west vs the south or east edge. (wrapping is implementing differently for + and - directions) < 1300508192 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixing that < 1300508439 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1300508448 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-241.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300508492 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test case: < 1300508497 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>>>v < 1300508497 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@0.v>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>># < 1300508497 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1300508500 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#<<< @.1@ < 1300508562 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bef now prints out '0 1 ', its previous incarnation (or running with the flag that enables backwards-compatible behavior) will just print '0 ' < 1300508743 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I do not know quite yet how I plan to implemented it, but probably a variant of Wayland. < 1300509658 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300510559 0 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300510646 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-182-183.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300510759 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300510785 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1300511470 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300511622 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300511628 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1300511740 0 :cheater99!~cheater@g230231220.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1300512517 0 :ak4d7!~ak4d7@d347h.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1300513161 0 :ak4d7!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1300513261 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1300513319 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1300514083 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-16-132.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1300514083 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1300514083 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1300514216 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1300514216 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1300514960 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright then... new version of bef released, v2.22: http://catseye.tc/projects/bef/ < 1300514968 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with that, good night < 1300514971 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1300515234 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300515303 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1300515457 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1300516918 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300519326 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang, it's weird out tonight. < 1300519378 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perigee at full moon is shockingly bright. < 1300519583 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: isnt it like 20% brighter? < 1300519586 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1300519588 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something. < 1300519602 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The brightness is quite noticable. < 1300519619 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sky is blue. < 1300520206 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheese blue < 1300520337 0 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172176.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1300520432 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried playing various raw picture files as raw audio files. < 1300521134 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300521338 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300521342 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-253-249.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300521599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1300521600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1300521790 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :John Tyler, 10th president of the US, has 2 living *grandchildren*. < 1300521804 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was born in 1790. < 1300522268 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. How odd would a case such as this be: "The Crown v. Her Majesty"? Is it even technically possible? < 1300522305 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, *practically* it isn't, as the Queen could simply opt to exercise her ordinarily delegated authority as prosecutor in criminal cases. < 1300522971 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1300523060 0 :cal153!~cal@c-24-4-207-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300523909 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1300524012 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1300524272 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you figure out these number sequences? < 1300524349 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-156-239.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300524360 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300524649 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/textfile/miscellaneous/numseq.txt < 1300525450 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! ohhh! < 1300525453 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know! < 1300525465 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next number in each of those sequences is 0, right? < 1300525546 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1300525552 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: let's say there's a law set out by one of the previous bearers of the crown that is still in effect that the current queen breaks < 1300525579 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was more thinking about the queen getting multiple personalities, but... < 1300525585 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: and this law then means that people in the institution ("the crown") have to sue the person ("her majesty")? < 1300525774 0 :wth!~tianhou@110.200.45.146 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300525853 0 :wth!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1300526368 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: No they arenot zero < 1300526389 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.. Lagerholm estimate for APNIC jumped from 13th to 2nd July (WTF, it is that optimistic???). Huston estimate jumped from May 5th to April 30th. < 1300526597 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNIC relative allocations for last 30 days: 87.9%. ~7.3x ROW. < 1300527032 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time when APNIC relative allocations were <1x RoW was only few months ago. :-/ < 1300527242 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All RIR allocation rates except APNIC are trending down. APNIC is rapidly shooting up, likely not decreasing until APNIC depletes. < 1300527394 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that the Huston estimate on RIPE NCC is overly pessimistic vs. recent events. < 1300527408 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there's no mathematical proof for that! < 1300527492 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1300527518 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, pretty much nothing can be predicted about what APNIC exhaustion will do to RIPE allocation rates. < 1300527569 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also to ARIN rates. < 1300527666 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1300527669 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1300527669 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300528074 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIPE last 30 days allocations: 3 541 792 (0.211). RIPE has at least 2.87 blocks free (3.87 minus setaside). < 1300529622 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300529995 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: You are correct there are not mathematical proof. < 1300530061 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many patterns can this program make? http://sprunge.us/gDCA < 1300530294 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-2-209.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300531233 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: probably quite many, given it's nondeterministic. < 1300532213 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300532312 0 :cheater99!~cheater@e181134006.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1300532593 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The initial state is 36 bits, but some states can be reached from other states, so you have to take that into consideration. < 1300533091 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the evolution is time-reversible. < 1300533104 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Each state having unique precessor). < 1300533220 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eventually the screen goes black and it repeats. < 1300533510 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0,0,0,0) is part of cycle of length 3 52 255. < 1300533519 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0, 0, 0, 2) generates some huge cycle. < 1300533532 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or not). < 1300533589 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300533599 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 337 908 < 1300533654 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's POINT(X, Y)? < 1300533765 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1300533767 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The color value of pixel (X,Y) in some BASICs at least. < 1300533804 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it apparently cycles the colors then. < 1300533835 0 :cheater99!~cheater@e181130147.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1300533886 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300535013 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300535236 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300535247 0 :cheater00!~cheater@g231050227.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1300536048 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1300537003 0 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1300537332 0 :Zuu_!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1300537882 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokoko < 1300538256 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :klop < 1300538260 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1300539276 0 :Zuu_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1300539712 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm bored :( < 1300539824 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1300539828 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, what is ROW in the statement about APNIC above? < 1300540096 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1300540520 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new textbook arrived yesterday, for the next course. Title sounds fun: "Real-Time Systems and Programming Languages" The subtitle less so: "Ada, Real-Time Java and C/Real-Time POSIX" < 1300540524 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck invented "real-time java"!? < 1300540745 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300541194 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1300541544 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/esoteric has been banned. < 1300541545 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMMM. < 1300541617 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1300541620 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any relation to us? < 1300541636 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there an optbot there? < 1300541675 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes a certain person's add applied to his grudges and not just to his projects < 1300541690 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1300541697 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add? < 1300541698 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, *ADD < 1300541714 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the same thing now called ADHD? < 1300541726 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess. < 1300541733 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1300541740 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was in any case a joke designation, not a diagnosis < 1300541745 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1300541755 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I just parsed it as the word rather than the acronym. < 1300541772 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me or does ADA code look similar to Pascal code at a first glance? < 1300541781 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1300541797 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, Ada is a close descendent of Pascal. < 1300541803 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Direct, even. < 1300541809 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ah that would explain it < 1300541811 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh also: < 1300541816 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : new textbook arrived yesterday, for the next course. Title sounds fun: "Real-Time Systems and Programming Languages" The subtitle less so: "Ada, Real-Time Java and C/Real-Time POSIX" < 1300541816 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : who the fuck invented "real-time java"!? < 1300541833 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had the same kind of dejavu when i read some gopher code lately < 1300541840 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically just haskell. < 1300541862 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that gopher < 1300541878 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00, gopher the protocol? < 1300541904 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the good parts of gopher basically merged back in haskell and gopher disappeared < 1300541907 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*into < 1300541923 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gopher? < 1300541927 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think haskell is like a successor of gopher < 1300541933 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ghs is the gopher something something < 1300541943 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wait < 1300541949 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugs is the something something gopher something < 1300541971 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: a lang. < 1300541977 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, hugs changed from gopher to haskell at some point, but i think gopher was a haskell variant to start with < 1300542015 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i was told it was a predecessor < 1300542019 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, also this book seems to use bold for syntax highlight keywords in ADA and java code examples. But no syntax highlighting at all for C examples < 1300542020 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fun" < 1300542024 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically sort of parallel to miranda < 1300542027 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hugs is Haskell without the shouting at you when you get types wrong? < 1300542064 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1300542076 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: um hugs still requires correct types < 1300542106 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's gofer < 1300542114 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gofer_(programming_language) < 1300542126 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I was under the impression that it didn't spit out incomprehensible type jargon when you got it wrong. < 1300542188 0 :Zuu!~vdsvsd@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300542194 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not quite as much. < 1300542322 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan < 1300542337 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that visual functional programming language for making music? < 1300542388 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1300542443 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn... i lost the link. < 1300542448 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: i find that wikipedia article about gofer self-inconsistent about the history. but i _think_ gofer started as a haskell variant, did some things closer to miranda, invented several things that were later adopted by haskell, and was basically abandoned when hugs got advanced enough to support full haskell. < 1300542449 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think elliott posted it < 1300542458 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this rather cheap digital watch keeps the time well... I haven't set it for two or three years (I rarely use it, I prefer my phone for checking the time), and it is less than 4 seconds off. < 1300542475 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aha < 1300542477 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only off by an hour, so it is on DST likely < 1300542496 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: is it a radio clock maybe? < 1300542500 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00, nope < 1300542519 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Rest of the World. < 1300542526 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, aha < 1300542537 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a vague recall that the Monad type class was first implemented in gofer < 1300542547 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00, basic three function ugly digital watch (time, alarm, stop watch) < 1300542567 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and a button for backlight < 1300542575 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl phone < 1300542586 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: my watch doesn't have radio in it, but it's still a radio clock < 1300542597 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which just means it can be synced through radio, that's all < 1300542603 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what that article doesn't say is that haskell _did_ get monad comprehensions, then dropped them again, and is currently about to readd them as an option. < 1300542608 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine doesn't even seem to have alarm.. or deos it < 1300542638 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it does indeed < 1300542650 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how do monad comprehensions work at all? < 1300542729 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: basically it works as syntactical sugar something like [x] = return x, [f x | x <- y] = y >>= f < 1300542745 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um wait < 1300542757 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't look right :X < 1300542762 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[f x | x <- y] = y >>= \x -> return (f x) < 1300542792 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: oh it works perfectly well and gives the result for lists < 1300542835 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the same result < 1300543063 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: my watch doesn't have radio in it, but it's still a radio clock <-- you are confusing two different "meanings" of radio here < 1300543069 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather < 1300543072 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think I am < 1300543091 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00, I can assure you that this clock has no radio receiver < 1300543529 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, what are the two meanings you're nattering about? < 1300543558 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's synced to an atomic clock, it definitely does have a radio receiver. < 1300543795 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once upon a time, before such syncing was widespread, "radio clock" had a rather different meaning. i don't know what you kids call it these days. < 1300543808 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND GET OFF MY LAWN < 1300543825 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's a clock with a radio attached, then Vorpal is an even bigger idiot than I though. < 1300543828 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thought < 1300543862 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, "my watch doesn't have radio in it" sound like he means "doesn't have a radio for listening to common broadcast" < 1300543864 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah only idiots use clocks with radios attached < 1300543882 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, because if it is a radio clock then it certainly has a radio of some sort in it. < 1300544275 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ok < 1300544349 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, may I come onto your lawn? To me radio clock means the older meaning still < 1300544365 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and "radio synced clock" or such means the modern meaning < 1300544396 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funnily enough this clock is made in a small village that has a technical university and like 10 houses < 1300544397 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry, but you're not senile enough < 1300544402 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a technology park < 1300544410 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the other end of germany < 1300544431 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i worked in the exact same street it was made on, a year ago. < 1300544437 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the odds of that happening? < 1300544445 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, aww, I don't remember what I had for lunch today even < 1300544447 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/9865060 < 1300544461 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: this is because I haven't eaten yet) < 1300544469 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i seee < 1300544510 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00, did you buy it in that village? < 1300544522 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i bought it in here because i liked the look of it < 1300544530 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even know that company existed there < 1300544566 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the village was so small i had to live in an adjacent city and commute (two s-bahn stations) to work there < 1300544567 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1300544586 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00, s-bahn? < 1300544592 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea like a tram < 1300544599 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a bus but on rails. < 1300544608 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what a tram is < 1300544610 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: do you have over a thousand clocks? < 1300544614 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1300544633 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like my first ever OWN bought alarm clock < 1300544645 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps except for a mechanic one i'd had ages ago < 1300544655 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i think ended up breaking < 1300544657 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00, what about ones you got as presents? < 1300544662 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1300544672 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had like 4 in the course of my life. < 1300544674 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i propose we accept god < 1300544683 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I suggest FSM instead < 1300544692 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is much more plausible < 1300544694 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite state machine? < 1300544709 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit, oklopol, i was going to say that < 1300544711 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do believe in those < 1300544719 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: erm, that's not what he meant? < 1300544720 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1300544734 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost certainly not < 1300544735 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else does that mean < 1300544757 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fussili Salsicca Maccaroni < 1300544779 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the flying spaghetti monster? < 1300544783 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1300544785 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*salsiccia < 1300544786 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSM < 1300544797 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest FSM - the universe is a finite state machine, only the number of states is far too much for us to comprehend and notice < 1300544802 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that actually already directly is that < 1300544809 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not some spaghetti monster crap < 1300544812 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite state machines! < 1300544828 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: i've had that idea before < 1300544840 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that idea is old < 1300544846 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also probably right < 1300544877 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares what the universe is, i just wanna know what the deal is with this clock thing < 1300544892 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to it < 1300545215 0 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1300545380 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1300545471 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, you will never know*! MWHAHAHAHAHA < 1300545475 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Unless you check logs. < 1300546258 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1300546635 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1300546640 0 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1300546862 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1300546862 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1300546862 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1300547931 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1300547939 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1300550036 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : asiekierka: i've had that idea before ← isn't that just finite space with some additional caveats? < 1300550057 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd call it practically infinite but theoretically finite space machine < 1300550077 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Practically infinite"? < 1300550339 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just an infinite state machine? < 1300550360 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gcc.gnu.org/viewcvs/trunk/gcc/reload.c?view=markup < 1300550366 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY < 1300551190 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm not getting why that file is so fascinating :P < 1300551226 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you seen the HIDEOUSNESS? < 1300551344 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See also http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/reload < 1300551543 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Reload is the GCC equivalent of Satan." lol < 1300551672 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, http://sprunge.us/ICPT :P < 1300551868 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's ---? < 1300552380 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:18:26] hello is there any practical consequence of the fact that irrational numbers exist? < 1300552380 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:18:27] or let me rephrase: hello is there any practical consequence of the "fact" that irrational numbers "exist"? < 1300552387 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i ever leave #math < 1300552832 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: because of TRWBW? < 1300552929 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with TRWBW < 1300552963 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's TRWBW? < 1300552969 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's this annoying jackass < 1300552982 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone hates him because he's a dick to everyone < 1300553006 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: could you please answer my question? < 1300553021 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: he's terrible! < 1300553028 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1300553038 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i didn't see your question because you didn't highlight me btw < 1300553054 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well, when i stopped going to #math he would have those fits all the time < 1300553073 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like but not as bad as ... another person. < 1300553090 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see what you mean < 1300553104 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have learned a lot of life skills from TRWBW < 1300553118 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you joking me? < 1300553130 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1300553136 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1300553141 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1300553149 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what skills? < 1300553179 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my opinions on math are to a large extent the same as his, strictly speaking i dunno if he's really influenced them < 1300553186 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he really makes you think about what you say < 1300553200 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because otherwise he'll ignore you forever < 1300553206 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way in which that was true for me was "i wish i hadn't come to #math to talk about this" < 1300553207 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's a really nice guy so who'd want that < 1300553228 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking about the same TRWBW? < 1300553241 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way i took his punishment was "indeed, i should've been less of a retard" < 1300553243 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess there aren't two of him < 1300553269 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two of him existing would probably just collapse the universe forever < 1300553303 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well i understand what you mean with the "life skills" bit < 1300553355 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone's got experience with a pompous asshole (sorry about the wording), except you only need a few in your life to learn how to be nice to people, and i've had my fair share before i'd become.. exposed to him < 1300553382 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess i could've liked him the way you do, had i made contact with him 10 years earlier! < 1300553417 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, i like him because he told me i was a fucking retard once when i totally was and didn't realize it < 1300553427 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny how our views diverge very much yet seem to be part of one bigger mechanism if you think about it < 1300553429 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure everyone would do the same < 1300553455 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, the only thing i've experienced from his side was aggresive negativity < 1300553461 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but again, ymmv < 1300553468 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1300553499 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he is pretty aggressive and negative, i don't actually like talking to him :D < 1300553511 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me either < 1300553517 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence i stopped hanging out in #math < 1300553541 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like, when i first started going there the place was overrun by like first-year CS freshmen < 1300553542 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just hang out in math because it's fun to watch people being clueless < 1300553570 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd go there and ask how to prove something about real numbers and they'd say write a program that loops over numbers. or something dumb like that. < 1300553593 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can rarely help with any interesting questions, just the "if x = 2, does that also mean all the 2's of the world are suddenly x?" < 1300553598 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you'd ask how to find the limit to a series and they'd give you a truncated decimal expansion. < 1300553619 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1300553621 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yea < 1300553635 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but tbh i enjoyed efnet #math very much more than the place here < 1300553641 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't mean i help with those either, i mostly watch others try and fail < 1300553661 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :learned loads about how to approach maths from people like zeno, Polytope, landen, etc < 1300553678 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just know Polytope < 1300553684 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also helped me a lot < 1300553688 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and really just the nick < 1300553690 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polytope is a good dude < 1300553705 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have that impression, dunno where it comes from < 1300553707 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :landen is like this old guy on tenure in mit < 1300553720 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's so old he remembers when time begun < 1300553732 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think he's as old as glk lol < 1300553736 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever met glk? < 1300553739 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1300553747 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if the nick is right, i think so < 1300553783 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://grahamkendall.net/Main_Files/All%20URL.txt < 1300553797 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'd idle in the channel < 1300553814 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like every time someone would mention anything about orbits or calculators he'd immediately spring up and spam his website url < 1300553834 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then engage into an in-depth conversation about the wonderful features of the TI-83 < 1300553849 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grahamkendall.net < picture < 1300553853 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :click. the. picture. < 1300553900 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1300553910 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's him < 1300553913 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has funny hair < 1300553913 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1300553953 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? i didn't notice he had a body < 1300553975 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks kinda interesting < 1300553995 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1300553997 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :creep. < 1300553998 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1300554025 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? :D < 1300554030 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1300554038 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? < 1300554059 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1300554087 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not doing this < 1300554088 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, oklopol is SUCH a troll ;;;-////////////////////////// < 1300554096 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... :D < 1300554099 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not a trollll < 1300554105 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trolololololo < 1300554111 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'mnottroll < 1300554119 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trolololopol < 1300554123 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why u call me troll .( < 1300554124 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1300554133 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner is right < 1300554150 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Because you only have one eye. < 1300554152 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE A TROLL < 1300554160 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1300554163 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proof! < 1300554227 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: btw, do you know anything about such a maths construct? it was first described by sierpinski, and i'm not sure if there's even an english word for it < 1300554256 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean for proof? < 1300554264 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me describe it < 1300554334 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you start with a finite set of complex numbers K_1 = {z_1, ..., z_n} and another finite set of natural numbers {k_1, ..., k_m}. If x \in K_i then x^k_m in K_{i+1} < 1300554346 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me bring up the wikipedia article < 1300554378 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierwiastnik < 1300554384 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the polish word for this is Pierwiastnik < 1300554395 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which comes from the word Pierwiastek which means square root or surd. < 1300554414 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was supposedly important for Abel and Wenzel < 1300554419 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wantzel < 1300554473 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't really read polish all that well, what do you do with k_j other than k_m? < 1300554528 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, z is a "pierwiastnik" of the numbers {z_i}_i if you can take the numbers z_i, and you can reach z using the four basic operations and also exponents (x^k_i for some i) and surds, < 1300554550 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for example THIS: http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/4/5/7451b3d4b1ad635a8e5ede3de8681773.png < 1300554566 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is *a* "pierwiastnik" of the numbers x, y, \pi < 1300554600 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you need the k_i for then, if they are nats, you can just multiply x with itself < 1300554652 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes and no < 1300554659 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i explained it the wrong way around < 1300554659 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mostly yes < 1300554725 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you start out with say, K_0 = Q, and K_i = K_{i-1} (z_i) (this is the field extension by z_i) < 1300554751 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then (z_i)^{k_i} \in K_{i-1{ < 1300554754 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is? didn't you say it has the roots of z_i? < 1300554755 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then (z_i)^{k_i} \in K_{i-1} < 1300554764 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1300554765 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1300554767 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm translating directly from the wikipedia page < 1300554781 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now this is important because you have i-1 as the index on the right < 1300554794 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can see that you're taking nth roots < 1300554869 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, we have (z_i)^{k_i} \in K_{i-1} for i=1..n and z \in K_n < 1300554885 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1300554890 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1300554895 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what the wikipedia page says < 1300554902 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :K_0 = Q contains (z_1)^{k_1} for instance? < 1300554936 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300554939 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then, once all this is set up so it works( we have to choose the z_i and k_i correctly), then we can say that z is the "pierwiastnik" of the numbers {z_i} of the grade k = max(k_i) < 1300554951 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes, because you choose z_i this way < 1300554960 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like not ALL z's can be constructed like this < 1300554961 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1300554977 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1300554979 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the idea is you're taking roots of things that already exist in the earliers < 1300554991 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and adding them to get a field extension < 1300555019 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea sorta < 1300555020 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1300555030 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly! < 1300555031 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i think i have heard of this < 1300555033 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1300555035 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you call this < 1300555080 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i don't know :P but the constructable numbers, you get roughly the numbers you can construct by using only k_j = 2, this way, starting from Q^2 < 1300555085 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1300555088 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the right word for this could be "radical" < 1300555099 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, how's Q^2 even a field < 1300555105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe more like < 1300555108 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since "pierwiastnik" is an alteration of the word "pierwiastek" which means radix. < 1300555126 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can construct Q's pierwiastnik extensions with k_i = 2 this way, in some sense. < 1300555133 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, no, constructable numbers no < 1300555137 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? okay < 1300555142 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not the same < 1300555151 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say they were < 1300555162 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because for example you can in this "radical" thing start out with any set of numbers, not only Q < 1300555169 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you can < 1300555174 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example at the top you have an example where you start with x, y, \pi < 1300555192 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said, the constructable numbers are gotten from Q by adding pierwiastnik extensions using k_i = 2 for all i < 1300555209 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think you can construct all such numbers, and i don't know which ones you can < 1300555228 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this could be wrong, i just vaguely recall an example from our algebra lecture notes < 1300555242 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it is said that all solutions of polynomials up to the 4th degree can be expressed as a pierwiastnik over the field over which the polynomial is given < 1300555255 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting the 5th degree sometimes you can sometimes you can't < 1300555271 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that 4th degree thing is true for all fields? < 1300555285 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should learn some galois theory < 1300555308 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abel-ruffini < 1300555318 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twierdzenie Abela-Ruffiniego – głosi, że pierwiastki równania algebraicznego stopnia wyższego niż 4 nie dają się wyrazić w ogólnej postaci za pomocą czterech działań algebraicznych i pierwiastkowania poprzez współczynniki równania w skończonej liczbie kroków (czyli poprzez tak zwane pierwiastniki). < 1300555340 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abel%E2%80%93Ruffini_theorem < 1300555349 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abel and ruffini were the two horribly complicated solutions to the polynomial prob? < 1300555362 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think wait < 1300555363 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before galois actually gave a sensible answer < 1300555370 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the english version of this page < 1300555377 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In algebra, the Abel–Ruffini theorem (also known as Abel's impossibility theorem) states that there is no general algebraic solution—that is, solution in radicals— to polynomial equations of degree five or higher.[1] < 1300555378 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! < 1300555395 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way they use it here, they use "radical" in the same way they use "pierwiastnik" in the polish version < 1300555404 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course "radical" in wikipedia just transfers you to nth root < 1300555408 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT! < 1300555421 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that goes in line with what i said earlier < 1300555422 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i think the right word for this could be "radical" < 1300555429 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a god is born. < 1300555500 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now we need to hijack the wikipedo page for "radical" < 1300555505 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and translate the english version < 1300555508 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1300555516 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :translate the *polish* version. < 1300555564 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's what radicals are < 1300555571 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll probably forget the term soon again < 1300555728 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in solving that problem, for some reason it helps to take fields F and their extensions G, and consider the group of isomorphisms of G that keep F invariant. then you can somehow reduce everything to group theory questions. < 1300555734 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much all i remember < 1300556359 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300557065 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAS KITTY < 1300557262 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIȲÂ~ < 1300557332 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that some crazy Happo-niece cat sound? < 1300557904 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, just a Japanese cat. < 1300558572 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-2-209.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300559039 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1300559990 0 :Wamanuz4!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1300560036 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300560161 0 :Wamanuz3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1300560587 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1300562101 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1300562492 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300562508 0 :cheater-!~cheater@e181142183.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1300562820 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I HAS KITTY < 1300562851 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/231/ < 1300562964 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þou art, indeed, a kitty! < 1300562983 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked today's < 1300563002 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I admit it was actually MILDLY funny. < 1300563037 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after reading the hovertext, it felt like he was trying to make a point tho, which made it less funny < 1300563076 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, blogs < 1300563135 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not a human < 1300563136 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :osijf < 1300563137 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blog < 1300563155 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Anvilicious < 1300563164 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to write something else and screwed up but i guess it worked out fine anyway < 1300563178 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles evilly, then is hit by falling anvil < 1300563289 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol is a blog. < 1300563339 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloblog < 1300563351 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.115.118.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300563363 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1300563402 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not blog :( < 1300563489 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: why not? < 1300563546 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: i don't want to be a blog. < 1300563602 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you want to be? A Wiki? < 1300563616 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but but it's such a nice word containing only an o vowel < 1300563628 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklowiki would just be _wrong_ < 1300563657 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"frog" is also a nice word containing only an 'o' vowel. < 1300563665 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have no problem believing that oklopol is a frog. < 1300563669 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. start jumping, oklofrog! < 1300563687 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i have never even been to that country < 1300563695 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1300563698 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopoland < 1300563704 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parles vous ribbit ribbit? < 1300563712 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yay", obnoxiously long encodes. < 1300563724 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encoding an entire season of Trek is about two days of encoding. Bleck. < 1300563734 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeau parles non la lingua ribulosa < 1300563804 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: What's this about Jews talking like frogs? RACIST < 1300563817 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is clog something provided by freenode? If so, how do I get clog to log a channel? < 1300563828 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Naw, somebody at tunes.org runs it < 1300563838 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Making a better logging bot is easy though :P < 1300563912 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bot that logs #corewars seems to have been down for a while. < 1300563921 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders where Elliott is. < 1300563941 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan was mean to him so he left forever < 1300563969 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own IRC server does logs on the server. If you want, I can give you codes to make your own logs on your server. < 1300563982 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess he transferred me from the white people box to the black people box < 1300564023 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you are quite the nigga < 1300564026 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now being hypocritical again, and swats himself -----### < 1300564080 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what section number does TeX prevent disabling all escape and active characters? < 1300564194 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1300564340 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: thanks. I wait to see if the current logger is fixed first. < 1300564373 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a Forth interpreter in about 600 bytes. I was just wondering if I beat Elliott to it :-) < 1300564467 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I would like to see what you have. I think elliott was trying to write it in 510 bytes, 600 bytes is too long to fit in the MBR code. < 1300564542 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll let you have a copy when it's debugged / optimized. It's minimal. I only implemented the words necessary to get the outer interpreter working. < 1300565766 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oerjan wasn't mean to elliott. < 1300565793 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, no one was < 1300565810 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say he was < 1300565821 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well strictly speaking, i did say that < 1300565846 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, *strictly* speaking, you typed that :D < 1300565866 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean "*strictly* typing" < 1300565894 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is #esoteric strictly-typed? < 1300565918 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL TYPOS ARE BANNABLE OFFENSES < 1300565927 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo < 1300565932 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of typos < 1300565938 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately it's not strictly _enforced_ < 1300565940 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :avrfreak is in #electronics < 1300565953 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone ever speak with that guy? < 1300565971 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1300565972 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's quite infamous for being a big anorak and being completely unable to type < 1300566012 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-206-48.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300566368 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300566385 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the haps my friends < 1300566499 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan! < 1300566529 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides in the corner < 1300566548 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is the haps? < 1300566564 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i deny everything! < 1300566585 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :) < 1300566600 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next time make your logo with METAFONT. < 1300566630 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can combine METAFONT with ImageMagick if you want colors and special effect as well. < 1300566787 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@dsl-66-115-77-61.bbr0.brdtny.empacc.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300567147 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-16-132.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1300567147 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1300567147 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1300567258 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1300567402 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, dammit, that's MY corner! < 1300567447 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shuffles to the next corner < 1300567501 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I own ALL the corners! < 1300567597 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm an oppressive capitalist < 1300567601 0 :TLUL!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left JOIN :#esoteric < 1300567620 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses a hammer and sickle to make a new corner < 1300567643 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tears down the walls < 1300567702 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just manages to run out before the falling roof crushes Phantom_Hoover  < 1300567714 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly oerjan. < 1300567725 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gravity is NONEXISTENT in this abstract world! < 1300567742 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE ARE NO ROOFS < 1300567743 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1300567746 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE ARE ONLY WALLS < 1300567761 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a floor? < 1300567768 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT TOO < 1300567808 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a floor can be a ceiling/roof if you are under it. < 1300567821 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION declares a socialist republic and nationalizes the corners < 1300567844 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfft, corners are nothing without walls. < 1300567858 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TYPICAL CAPITALIST PROPAGANDA < 1300567868 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those pesky 360 degree wide corners. < 1300567868 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're much less comfortable, for a start. < 1300567880 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION declares free corners (without walls) for everyone < 1300567882 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconmaster, they're 3D corners, silly. < 1300567895 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steals the edges as well. < 1300567977 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION outlaws property, thereby clearly making theft impossible < 1300568017 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION outlaws logic. < 1300568044 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comrade Phantom_Hoover, we now have perfect communism! < 1300568053 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo. < 1300568055 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*! < 1300568059 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no logic was the obvious last step < 1300568069 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CORNERS ARE CAPITALIST SPIES < 1300568082 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shoots all the corners and airbrushes them out of the photos. < 1300568146 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you really should be worried about is that floor. < 1300568150 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia IS CAPITALIST SCUMBAG < 1300568165 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ICONMASTER INSULTS GLORIOUS SOCIALIST FLOOR < 1300568184 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swatpans iconmaster TO GULAG --==\#/ < 1300568250 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is also a CEILING. It is two-faced! Wait, we outlawed logic... < 1300568267 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fear for my life now. < 1300568301 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MINE SALT < 1300568324 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should keep his nose out of this whole 'life' thing. < 1300568325 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MINE IT < 1300568330 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEE < 1300568349 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many IT's do you want to be mined? < 1300568369 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hur hur. < 1300568370 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT SALT DAMMIT < 1300568399 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION offers Phantom_Hoover his salt shaker. < 1300568411 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MORE SALT < 1300568412 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300568413 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconmaster: do not fear. replace logic by glorious dialectic materialism! < 1300568445 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I KNOW I have some more salt *somewhere*... < 1300568446 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the floor is clearly material, and has two faces, thus dialectic < 1300568487 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.5.17/20110121150729] < 1300568504 0 :cheater99!~cheater@e181142183.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1300568511 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :giving a glorious synthetic plastic < 1300568514 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is wondering how communism and materialism can go together. Oh wait, no logic. < 1300568522 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMRADE PIKHQ IS GLORIOUS SOCIALIST RAILWAY ENGINEER < 1300568547 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*socialism < 1300568612 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconmaster, in seriousness, socialism is materialist in the non-spiritualist sense. < 1300568613 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAIT < 1300568618 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300568624 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OERJAN IS NOT GLORIOUS SOCIALIST MATERIALIST < 1300568661 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: we have now got salt from filthy americans http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SALT < 1300568673 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMRADE FUNGOT, SEE TO HIS READJUSTMENT < 1300568717 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: your sentences are employing CAPITALISM, and therefore fungot is ignoring you < 1300568730 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that and not being here, mind you < 1300568741 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU KILLED COMRADE FUNGOT < 1300568779 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets popcorn. < 1300568817 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want some popcorn? < 1300568829 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POPCORN IS AMERICAN AND CAPITALIST < 1300568846 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, all these Socalist faux pas. < 1300568878 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: rubbish, if you look in the backlog you will see that fungot was disappeared before the glorious revolution started < 1300568884 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides airbrush < 1300568930 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives iconmaster some candy floss from cuban sugar < 1300568969 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is totally photoshopped < 1300569003 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: just a little to hide this tumor on my backhead < 1300569019 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300569022 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's totally juchy < 1300569035 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300569058 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRAPPY CAPITALIST WIFI IS ATTEMPTING TO SABOTAGE GLORIOUS SOCIALIST REVOLUTION < 1300569136 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The Glorious People's Socialist Republic of Esoterica | Try out yoob @ http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html | logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1300569210 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sorry < 1300569231 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The Glorious People's Socialist Democratic Egalitarian Progressive Republic of Esoterica | Try out yoob @ http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html | logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1300569235 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :juchy? < 1300569260 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The Glorious People's Socialist Democratic Egalitarian Progressive Republic of Esoterica | DECADENT CAPITALIST NEOPAGANS NEED NOT APPLY | Try out yoob @ http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html | logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1300569261 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche < 1300569296 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am all too happy because this monad stuff is finally making sense < 1300569299 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this tutorial ownz < 1300569304 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1300569351 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/ < 1300569352 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :             | < 1300569352 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :             |\ < 1300569368 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that didn't work, myndzi :p < 1300569382 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The Glorious People's Socialist Democratic Egalitarian Progressive Republic of Esoterica | DECADENT CAPITALIST NEOPAGANS NEED NOT APPLY | Try out GLORIOUS SOVIET yoob @ http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html | SOCIALIST HISTORY logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1300569383 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows it's because he's using xchat. < 1300569391 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it worked perfectly, you are just using decadent capitalist nick alignment < 1300569395 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The Glorious People's Socialist Democratic Egalitarian Progressive Republic of Esoterica | DECADENT CAPITALIST NEOPAGANS NEED NOT APPLY | Try out GLORIOUS SOVIET yoob @ http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html | SOCIALIST HISTORY: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1300569515 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The Glorious People's Socialist Democratic Egalitarian Progressive Republic of Esoterica | DECADENT CAPITALIST NEOPAGANS NEED NOT APPLY | Try out GLORIOUS SOVIET yoob @ http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html | SOCIALIST HISTORY: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | NEW SOCIALIST TRADITIONS APPROVED BY THE PARTY: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1300569533 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a lot of "new traditions" in the 80s in the eastern block < 1300569547 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is hilarious because .. traditions are by definition something old. < 1300569568 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it hilarious even in the original russian? < 1300569599 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nova lyudova traditya or something < 1300569626 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-166-122.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300569630 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1300569635 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Новая традиция народной < 1300569669 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :новой, социалистической традиции < 1300569682 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this newspeak < 1300569751 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMRADE PIKHQ WHAT EVILS HAVE BEFALLEN YOU < 1300569774 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The Glorious People's Socialist Democratic Egalitarian Progressive Republic of Esoterica | DECADENT CAPITALIST NEOPAGANS NEED NOT APPLY | Try out GLORIOUS SOVIET yoob @ http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html | SOCIALIST HISTORY: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | NEW SOCIALIST TRADITIONS APPROVED BY THE PARTY: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page | OPTBOT DENOUNCED AS CAPIT < 1300569780 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh damn :D < 1300569788 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The Glorious People's Socialist Democratic Egalitarian Progressive Republic of Esoterica | DECADENT CAPITALIST NEOPAGANS NEED NOT APPLY | Try out GLORIOUS SOVIET yoob @ http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html | SOCIALIST HISTORY: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | NEW SOCIALIST TRADITIONS APPROVED BY THE PARTY: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1300569800 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot denounced as capitalist wolf. < 1300569814 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :エソテリッカ之英人民民主主義共和平和進歩国！ < 1300569850 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: i wish to point out that optbot is _not_ banned. < 1300569858 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1300569859 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1300569872 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case anyone was confused < 1300569880 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok sorry didn't mean to confuse anyone < 1300569883 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(esoteri'ka no ei < 1300569890 0 :iconmaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: THE GLORIOUS SOCIALIAST RPOS V2.1 IS HERE! < 1300569907 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LISTEN NOT TO THE LIES OF THE CAPITALIST SPY ICONMASTER < 1300569932 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't even spall socialist correctly! < 1300569934 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(esoteri'ka no ei sìnnminnminnsiȳûsiȳûkì kiȳôwa hêwa sinnhǫ koku!) < 1300569968 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1300569974 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW BACK TO THE TOPIC OF COMRADE OERJAN'S CAPITALIST SYNCHRONICITY < 1300569990 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OERJAN DENOUNCED AS CAPITALIST WOLF < 1300569999 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("The Glorious People's Socialist Democratic Egalitarian Progressive Republic of Esoterica") < 1300570006 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : COMRADE PIKHQ WHAT EVILS HAVE BEFALLEN YOU < lol, i read that as "what elvis has befallen you" >_< < 1300570012 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :synchronicity is dialectic, not capitalist < 1300570040 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are your neurodynes clear? < 1300570041 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why am _i_ the capitalist, you are the ones who insist on using capitals < 1300570049 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think you should speak to AHS-7. < 1300570069 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, that's a nice twist < 1300570076 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: i do not recognize the decadent capitalist references you mention < 1300570079 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO INVENTED LOWER CASE? < 1300570084 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess oerjan is the.. whatdoyoucallit < 1300570100 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the opposite of capital letter? < 1300570115 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CEASE THIS DECADENT USAGE OF NEW INVENTED LOWER CASE CHARACTERS < 1300570118 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a special word for that that's never used < 1300570122 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY ARE NOT OF THE TRADITION < 1300570130 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES COMRADE OLSNER < 1300570142 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OERJAN IS A MINISCULIST < 1300570303 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWER-CASE CHARACTERS ARE A REMNANT OF FEUDALIST EUROPE < 1300570322 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMRADE PIKHQ SPEAKS GLORIOUS SOCIALIST TRUTH < 1300570323 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAPITALS ARE THE CREATION OF A GRAND REPUBLIC < 1300570339 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAPITALS: FOR SOCIALISM! < 1300570369 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANK YOU, COMRADE PHANTOM_HOOVER. < 1300570388 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE IS NO NEED FOR THANKS COMRADE PIKHQ < 1300570390 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOV HAVE CONVINCED ME < 1300570429 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(NOTE ABSENCE OF CAPITALIST "U") < 1300570448 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELCOME, COMRADE ØRJAN, TO THE GLORIOVS PEOPLE'S SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC EGALITARIAN PROGRESSIVE REPVBLIC OF ESOTERICA. < 1300570546 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ЩЕ УСЕ ГЛОРИОУС СОЦИАЛИСТ ЦЙРИЛЛИЦ < 1300570550 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANK YOV < 1300570561 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1300570629 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMRADE, THOSE GLYPHS ORIGINATE FROM A CZAR, TRULY THE LEAST SOCIALIST SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT. < 1300570656 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: *TRVLY < 1300570657 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAIR ENOVGH < 1300570670 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND NOT FROM THE ROMAN REPVBLIC, A CLEAR PREDECESSOR TO OVR MOST GLORIOUS PEOPLE'S SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC EGALITARIAN PROGRESSIVE REPVBLIC. < 1300570681 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :S/GLORIOUS/GLORIOVS/ < 1300570688 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES OK YOV HAVE MADE YOVR POINT < 1300570837 0 :glogbot!~glogbot@wb-dhcp2-7.wmiscable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300570886 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A GLORIVS LOG BOT? < 1300570892 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GLORIOVS < 1300570901 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INDEED < 1300570917 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOOKS TO BE GREGOR'S GLORIOVS LOG BOT FOR THE REPVBLIC < 1300570927 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*COMRADE GREGOR < 1300570931 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making one that actually keeps rawlogs around :P < 1300570935 0 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1300570941 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMRADE GREGOR IS INDEED DOING A GREAT WORK < 1300570958 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, for the moment all you get is < 1300570958 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1300570959 0 :glogbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbot is currently under development, logs will be available in one metric soon. < 1300570970 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMRADE GREGOR, RENAME GLOGBOT TO COMRADE GLOGBOT IN HONOVR OF GLORIOVS SOCIALIST CHANNEL < 1300571020 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not quite as capitalist as you. I type only some capitalist letters, and mostly typing lowercaseist letter, and also punctuation. But I do not type communist and socialist letters because I am not Soviet Russian. < 1300571035 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope I've modified multibot to not get D/C'd so much. < 1300571041 0 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@wb-dhcp2-7.wmiscable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300571043 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@wb-dhcp2-7.wmiscable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300571045 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RENAME TO GLOGBOT < 1300571055 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO STOP USING DECADENT CAPITALIST LOWER CASE < 1300571063 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND 'U' < 1300571074 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*COMRADE GLOGBOT < 1300571106 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DECADENT CAPITALIST FREENODE MAY NOT SVPPORT SPACES IN NICKS < 1300571127 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :USE NEXT MOST GLORIVS SOCIALIST VNDERSCORE < 1300571132 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sometimes I use capitalist "U"! Because I am typing English, not Socialist. < 1300571191 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: IT'S OK YOV CAN BE DECADENT CAPITALIST CANADIAN AMBASSADOR TO ESOTERICA < 1300571238 0 :glogbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300571247 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was an intentional kill btw :P ) < 1300571261 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH GLORIOVS LOG BOT HAS BEEN ASSASSINATED < 1300571344 0 :glogbot!~glogbot@wb-dhcp2-7.wmiscable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300571351 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I fixed TeX chess program making the default size of tiles 16pt, allowing number of ranks/files changed, allow adding a caption above or below the board, and many more... < 1300571361 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAS MURDER BY COMRADE GREGOR < 1300571372 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glogbot_join #esoteric-minecraft < 1300571373 0 :glogbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joined #esoteric-minecraft < 1300571400 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMRADE GLOGBOT FELL OVT OF FAVOVR WITH GLORIOVS SOCIALIST CHANNEL < 1300571446 0 :glogbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1300571449 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION continues tinkering ... < 1300571488 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMRADE GREGOR IF COMRADE_GLOGBOT DOES NOT JOIN GLORIOVS SOCIALIST CHANNEL THEN STEPS WILL BE TAKEN < 1300571497 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PERHAPS YOU WILL JOIN COMRADE ICONMASTER IN GULAG < 1300571528 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Maybe it would make sense to make those commands as private messages? Such as "PRIVMSG glogbot :JOIN #esoteric-minecraft" and then another command to set the notice list. And it send NOTICE to all channel and user when there is notification change? At least to me is logical this way. Maybe not you. < 1300571530 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More likely though, you will join many other comrades in "too damned annoying to exist land" < 1300571566 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It just always responds on the channel you request on *shrugs* < 1300571589 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I could send the same command as a PM and it would only PM me back. < 1300571710 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there a Unix command to run something in the background and echo its pid? < 1300571743 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I know the shell command you can put & at the end, but I do not know if there is an actual command for that. Maybe there is. < 1300571768 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I would prefer not to have it in the shell's jobs. < 1300571786 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean like, it respond to the sender whether or not the command is success. And only if it is successful, send NOTICE to everyone in its internal NOTICE list. Sending SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE subscribe the user privately, and with a channel name as parameter, to add/remove that channel from its internal NOTICE list. Mostly only the head channel would then be added because these notices are not important to other channels. < 1300571809 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I don't know, sorry. < 1300571839 0 :glogbot!~glogbot@wb-dhcp2-7.wmiscable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300571873 0 :glogbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1300571928 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For things such as EgoBot and HackEgo it makes sense the way it currently works, but glogbot is making logs so it would make sense the other way instead. < 1300571931 0 :glogbot!~glogbot@wb-dhcp2-7.wmiscable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1300571960 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, glogbot should be here semipermanently now. < 1300572002 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also mode should be set -i so that you can check the status. < 1300572102 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does -i mean?' < 1300572150 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means turn off invisible mode. < 1300572168 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know exactly what it does though. < 1300572205 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/radiation/ < 1300572206 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The help just says "Designates this client 'invisible'" but it does not prevent you from accessing that user?) < 1300572218 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAPITALIST XKCD HAS ACTUALLY DONE SOMETHING VSEFVL < 1300572287 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says "cannot be seen without a common channel or knowing the exact name". < 1300572347 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However it is probably useful to know the logging is there even without a common channel. < 1300572365 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ACTVALLY < 1300572427 0 :glogbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1300572435 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMRADE GLOGBOT!! < 1300572435 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I was totes lying about stability :P < 1300572635 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the problems with irc:// URI scheme is in fact explained on Wikipedia. My scheme does not have any of those problems. < 1300572741 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does IPv4 have any "invalid addresses" blocks? < 1300572763 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that are designated as such) < 1300572900 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1300573131 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anything's been reserved as "invalid" exactly, but there are for example three blocks that have been reserved for documentation and examples. < 1300573475 0 :glogbot!~glogbot@wb-dhcp2-7.wmiscable.net JOIN :#esoteric