< 1294358685 0 :Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1294358872 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: make the fans quieter :( < 1294358873 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294359423 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iatv18rAK-k < 1294359554 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fill your house with water so that you don't have to worry about firwes? < 1294359588 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, alternately, build with something non-flammable. < 1294359619 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294360021 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: lol :D < 1294360023 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: just worry about drowning < 1294360202 0 :cheater00!~cheater@g224202250.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1294360299 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@bas5-toronto47-1167928546.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1294360385 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294360474 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: dwodwondwoind < 1294360484 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me knows < 1294360529 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to download minecraft worlds that people have made? < 1294360560 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: sort of. < 1294360565 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people occasionally put them up < 1294361666 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Margarie may have won the war, but she hasn't won the battle < 1294361722 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVyDDXWRs7k < 1294361890 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1294362124 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you in ubuntu now? < 1294362131 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: or is that in osx? < 1294362135 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: lolno, why would i be, yes os x, why? < 1294362140 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i know there's a fix for ubuntu :D < 1294362143 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bought a superdrive ;( < 1294362146 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1294362150 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be ok < 1294362162 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: i think it's not a thing that needs fixing, i think it's just that this thing is optimised for silence when you do nothing and then raging fans when you do < 1294362165 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of insufficient cooling otherwise < 1294362177 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :our society supports anything that's expendable < 1294362177 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because real mac users don't play minecraft < 1294362186 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1294362187 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i support death < 1294362193 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a crazy raging fans fix for ubuntu < 1294362196 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i bet for macs too < 1294362205 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what helps is one of those stands < 1294362211 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put something under it so that it has air under it < 1294362222 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, macbook air.. works better with air amirite? < 1294362262 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really raging < 1294362267 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just louder than i'd like :> < 1294362278 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: actually i position one leg to cover the vent. < 1294362281 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it quietens it slightly. < 1294362284 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a core duo laptop which is supersilent (since i put in a new hdd) < 1294362293 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the toshiba was nice and silent. < 1294362296 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have a core 2 duo pc next to it which is inaudible < 1294362302 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a feeling they used smaller fans in this to save space. < 1294362311 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one's some sort of crappy old advent thing that my stupid drughead flatmate left behind < 1294362318 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took it because he thought it was broken < 1294362322 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1294362328 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he left it because he thought it was broken, and i took it. < 1294362334 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when he moved out :) < 1294362347 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was broken in that there was a virus that would reboot your pc after 5 minutes. < 1294362367 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm surprised they even fit any fans into the thing < 1294362439 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna build that super-powerful silent pc sometime. sometime. :p < 1294362448 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's very simple < 1294362456 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: ah, you misunderstand how perfectionist I am < 1294362467 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: I have spent many, many hours reading random, beyond-obscure topics on silentpcreview < 1294362470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worried about LCD whine even < 1294362470 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you misunderstand how perfectionist *i* am < 1294362475 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: let's put it this way < 1294362494 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: if it doesn't have an expensive AMD CPU (AMDs are of course ridiculously hot), and a good graphics card, it's imperfect, BUT ALSO if it has a _single_ fan it's imperfect < 1294362501 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be completely solid state apart from the bulk storage drive < 1294362506 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why amd and not intel? < 1294362508 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will be in a quietening enclosure. < 1294362519 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: don't wish to support intel's business practices any more. < 1294362526 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMDs are hot and not as fancy, but *shrug* < 1294362531 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the wattage of an amd? < 1294362536 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: higher than an intel :) < 1294362542 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well let's put it this way < 1294362561 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just put my hand on the heatsink of this pc.. < 1294362571 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's barely warm < 1294362580 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, "this tea is getting cold" warm < 1294362615 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: you realise that even silentpcreview's work pc in the anechoic chamber used when monitoring the dBA levels of equipment and shit ... < 1294362617 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: has a fan? :D < 1294362618 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the loudest thing in this pc is inarguably the power supply.. < 1294362620 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one single, 140mm case fan. < 1294362629 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i consider even _that_ unacceptable. < 1294362634 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: oh yeah, i really want a solid-state PSU too < 1294362638 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that seems unlikely < 1294362641 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you misunderstood < 1294362642 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of a 400W solid state one < 1294362648 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what microphonics are? < 1294362656 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, yes i do < 1294362658 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the enemy :) < 1294362663 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: is the psu fanless? < 1294362667 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1294362668 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :450w < 1294362671 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: omg link < 1294362676 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: i have been unable to find a fanless psu of that wattag < 1294362677 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1294362680 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: do you have a case fan? < 1294362737 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.lmgtfy.com/?q=silent+450w+psu < 1294362739 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2nd link < 1294362755 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and further revisions make it even quieter < 1294362760 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this switching noise that it has.. < 1294362762 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's inaudible < 1294362767 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my pc has no case fans. < 1294362771 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: ah, so one of the ooold ones < 1294362772 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it still sold < 1294362780 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1294362784 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very good design < 1294362789 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the site linked in that 2003 review is squatted < 1294362800 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: btw i was considering a copper heatpipe + big radiator solution < 1294362800 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silverstone st45nf < 1294362805 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: what cpu/gpu do you have? < 1294362814 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :core 2 quad e8500 < 1294362814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: ah. our second links differ. < 1294362819 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why lmgtfy is bad ;) < 1294362821 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fastest geforce i could get at the time < 1294362834 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no fans at all, right? just checking :D < 1294362840 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there are fans < 1294362840 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294362843 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no case fans < 1294362844 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: where :| < 1294362846 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1294362858 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a fan between the cpu and graphic card heatsinks < 1294362864 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a noctua p12 < 1294362869 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not audible < 1294362869 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UN < 1294362872 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AC < 1294362873 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKING < 1294362873 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CEPTABLE < 1294362877 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :naw < 1294362883 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: i would buy a zalman totally-no-noise but they're not sold any more < 1294362883 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ??? < 1294362885 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just mini-atx versions < 1294362889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: silent pc nerdery < 1294362892 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually does not have enough mechanical impedance to transfer any sound < 1294362901 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: everything that moves sounds. < 1294362908 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1294362908 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that move are the enemy. < 1294362916 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOVING IS THE ENEMY < 1294362918 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're talking to someone who knows a lot about acoustic engineering < 1294362931 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: what if i want to use my computer in a vacuum, asshole < 1294362935 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know.. i make my own speakers < 1294362947 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't work in a vacuum. < 1294362951 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for multiple reasons. < 1294362958 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: SHUT UP < 1294362963 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i live in an anechoic chamber < 1294362964 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and am a bat < 1294362971 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first of all, the electrolyte in capacitors would be instantly sucked out through the ventilation perforation < 1294363000 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second of all, the heatsinks would not be able to give away the heat because they're not touching any matter < 1294363012 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i live in an anechoic chamber < 1294363013 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and am a bat < 1294363036 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you're a bat that's fine because bats hear supersonics < 1294363070 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fans by the fact of their design drop in acoustic coupling performance as frequency goes up < 1294363096 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you stick your ear next to the fan at a very specific angle < 1294363102 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that has to be measured with a laser < 1294363119 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1294363120 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I do that < 1294363134 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i can hear a barely audible rumble of say maybe 5 hz < 1294363149 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you did that you couldn't hear anything, because your hearing ain't good nuff < 1294363172 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in fact < 1294363190 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet with a slightly bigger heatsink it could be possible to run this pc fanless < 1294363199 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the graphic card that does all the heat, not the cpu < 1294363204 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: the problem is that without the airflow everything breaks down :( < 1294363209 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the newest graphic cards are better with that it's nice < 1294363215 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1294363216 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: hahahano < 1294363220 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: graphics cards are getting hotter < 1294363227 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got an uh < 1294363277 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: anyway it's more psychological, i could _feeeel_ that fan moving < 1294363280 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to connect a keyboard to that pc. < 1294363281 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: have you looked into heatpipe solutions < 1294363317 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1294363344 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: i was considering passive watercooling but realised that pumps make noise < 1294363365 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a 9800 gtx+ < 1294363369 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :512 mb < 1294363374 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the hottest running graphics card ever < 1294363379 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the hottest of its time < 1294363380 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1294363387 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i put the slowest ever fan possible on it < 1294363393 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really need like < 1294363397 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best graphics card < 1294363413 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you could get something that can be run fanless < 1294363424 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then put a convection stack on your cpu < 1294363443 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually very simple, you just take a drain pipe < 1294363444 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294363447 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294363453 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: i'm probably going for a scythe of similar size to http://www.crazypc.com/images/coolers/cpu/prolimatech/megahfull.jpg < 1294363461 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know convection? < 1294363464 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1294363466 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may want to have this pc horizontal < 1294363471 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't trust things like that to hang :D < 1294363476 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1294363484 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mounting system is very good < 1294363491 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the fan works properly only when the fins are vertical < 1294363500 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffff < 1294363500 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means the whole pc has to be < 1294363506 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1294363508 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't trust it < 1294363515 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if you want that scythe < 1294363520 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not actually a scythe < 1294363521 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did everything with thermalright < 1294363522 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a megahalem < 1294363530 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this internal thermalright => shit mapping < 1294363533 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's thermaltake i'm thinking of < 1294363542 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is < 1294363544 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thermaltake is shit < 1294363550 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with scythe, i like scythe < 1294363556 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use thermalright if you want things to be right < 1294363564 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i did everything with thermalright and it worked well < 1294363571 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spcr like scythe :p < 1294363572 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have this experience with scythe coolers < 1294363580 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a scythe hdd enclosure which is the best ever < 1294363586 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a nightjar psu < 1294363592 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i know nothing of their coolers < 1294363594 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/cpu/053/scnj3000-detail.html < 1294363604 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: they're mostly of the gigantic fucking heatpipes variety :D < 1294363606 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I LIKE that variety < 1294363616 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea so is thermalright < 1294363622 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except thermalright also does something very useful < 1294363627 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is backplane coolers < 1294363640 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cMC-m0sjsM < 1294363646 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which help a lot with cpus even thought you'd think they wouldn't < 1294363649 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=33&lng=en <-- the most fans i will allow in my pc is one (1) of these < 1294363652 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but every cpu gets equally hot on both sides < 1294363654 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing else < 1294363654 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MinecraftVideoBo < 1294363658 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the underside catches a lot of warmth < 1294363661 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTHING ELSE < 1294363663 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a warm air pocket happens < 1294363668 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1294363670 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i do < 1294363678 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even then < 1294363680 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would feel bad about it < 1294363682 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cry every night < 1294363685 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actually < 1294363691 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noctua have just come up with a new one < 1294363694 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's bigger than the one i use < 1294363697 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hence silenter < 1294363699 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatwhat < 1294363702 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1294363707 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this one you linked < 1294363709 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the biggest one on their products page < 1294363712 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is a p12 not a p14 < 1294363717 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm isn't the 140mm one quite old < 1294363718 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's supersilent already < 1294363728 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it didn't exist back before time < 1294363740 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't trust myself to apply thermal paste, will be fun < 1294363746 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also now they do this jaded fin thing < 1294363756 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh i just sorta... put an icing of it on" < 1294363759 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a special procedure you do with thermal paste < 1294363761 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the cooler is kinda wedged in the goop" < 1294363767 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you make a pea ball and crush it w/ the heatsink < 1294363768 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1294363771 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1294363785 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what spcr tells me :> < 1294363786 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not one person i've spoken to actually knows their shit on how to do that < 1294363789 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spcr is wrong < 1294363794 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a better way of doing this < 1294363804 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, i trust you, mr. other random person on the internet < 1294363809 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my pc works < 1294363811 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294363811 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than the original, mr. three random people on the internet < 1294363814 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has only one fan in it < 1294363835 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah one too many < 1294363842 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d? < 1294363850 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well buy a weak graphics card and you can have it without < 1294363857 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: probably < 1294363862 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: heatpipes bitch < 1294363870 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: how much RAM DO YOU HAVE EH < 1294363877 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :four gigabytes < 1294363878 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to insert MY heatpipe in a bitch < 1294363881 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: hahahahahahahahahaha < 1294363889 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know what i meant < 1294363890 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because i still run 32 bit windoze sometimes < 1294363895 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: lol u fag < 1294363897 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for audio applications < 1294363898 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1294363902 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 bit windoze boots with >4 gig anyway doesn't it < 1294363904 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just ignores it < 1294363907 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :U < 1294363920 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well back then that was what i was using most of the time < 1294363922 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no point < 1294363927 0 :MinecraftVideoBo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has 2GB RAM in this machine
< 1294363931 0 :MinecraftVideoBo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the most I ever had < 1294363935 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i do ubuntu and run vim in it < 1294363941 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could do with 2 mb of ram < 1294363943 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: its funny because im getting 12 to 16 gigs because i love excess < 1294363945 0 :MinecraftVideoBo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea why it uses 64-bit Windos < 1294363947 0 :MinecraftVideoBo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WIndows < 1294363949 0 :MinecraftVideoBo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows < 1294363959 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: the part list i got for bsmnt had 12 gigs, so really i just need to top him in _some_ way < 1294363965 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe "not sounding like a jet" < 1294363968 0 :MinecraftVideoBo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION accidentally summons Bill Gates
< 1294363973 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is bsmnt? < 1294363980 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy over there ---> < 1294363982 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the username list < 1294363990 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what is bsmnt? < 1294363995 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy over there ---> < 1294363995 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the username list < 1294363998 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1294364000 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is it? < 1294364004 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said he wanted a new computer, i produced a list of parts out of my ass^W^Wnewegg < 1294364007 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see it, i still don't know what it is < 1294364009 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly they worked first time < 1294364011 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a person < 1294364012 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1294364013 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1294364013 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you tell him to dd if=/dev/urandom ? < 1294364015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :breathes and shits < 1294364016 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shit < 1294364019 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: no he's cool < 1294364021 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1294364021 0 :MinecraftVideoBo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1294364024 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he still uses that box < 1294364027 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still wonder if that kid did it < 1294364033 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a Sgeo? < 1294364047 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kinda set myself up for a fal lthough he has an intel ssd, i7 cpu, 12 gigs of ram... < 1294364049 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can beat him on gfx card < 1294364052 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has some shitty passive thing < 1294364066 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you have an intel mac < 1294364074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remind me? :( < 1294364075 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're on the dark side already < 1294364089 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not my fault they're thin, fuck off < 1294364092 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i am your father, elliott < 1294364102 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god, i hope not < 1294364108 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1294364115 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : NOooOOOOooooooooooooooooooo11!!!! < 1294364118 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brbsuicide < 1294364128 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so either way < 1294364138 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some sikrit tipz to having a quiet pc < 1294364144 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that no one tells you about < 1294364147 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh huh < 1294364163 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most sikrit tip is to not have a psu in your case < 1294364172 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: FUNNY i'ma violate that tip < 1294364178 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things i hate that aren't sound: WIRES < 1294364180 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1294364180 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THINGS < 1294364194 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya well ur laem < 1294364209 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't have such a silent pc then huh < 1294364232 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or iow: enjoy your hair dryer < 1294364247 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: or i could just put it in the case and < 1294364250 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: here's the clever bit < 1294364255 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: you know what i would do? < 1294364261 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: i would cut off the back of my case < 1294364262 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instant < 1294364262 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mother < 1294364263 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckin < 1294364265 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :airflow < 1294364267 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya, no < 1294364271 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i genius? i am genius? yes, i am genius < 1294364278 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya, no < 1294364280 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: buy me some heatpipes < 1294364285 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya, no < 1294364292 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya no has to be my favorite phrase in Spanish < 1294364299 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though I forgot what it means < 1294364327 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1294364339 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: really, you don't want the psu in your computer. < 1294364348 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: but it'll stare at me < 1294364357 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most silent computers are ones that don't work! < 1294364358 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the silverstone is very beautiful < 1294364360 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: did i mention i want an ips monitor < 1294364363 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, cheater00 means outside the case I assume < 1294364385 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice matted extruded aluminium < 1294364393 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ips again? < 1294364424 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is that this lcd overdrive stuff? < 1294364444 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think those overdrive ones are loud but not sure < 1294364465 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: research backplane coolers k < 1294364471 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lcd overdrive? what? < 1294364494 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there's this thing that makes lcds behave like they have faster times.. < 1294364496 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and die faster too < 1294364498 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's stupid < 1294364507 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: IPS is what the graphics"pros" use < 1294364508 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1294364513 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TN (normal LCDs) have uneven colour distribution < 1294364514 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter what angle < 1294364517 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's the superslow lcd kind < 1294364519 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :colour at left corner is different to middle < 1294364523 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: mmmnope < 1294364525 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you can't use for computer games < 1294364528 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1294364529 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1294364534 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're superthick too aren't they? < 1294364542 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: 10 to 14 ms response; also, most actual LCDs have similar ACTUAL response rates < 1294364547 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "cheating" is ubiquitous < 1294364552 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know < 1294364555 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in non-IPS < 1294364565 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: btw all iMacs and Apple Displays have been IPS for like two years now < 1294364574 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, cooler is just one mistake away from cooker < 1294364576 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly nobody has yet to play a game on one :D < 1294364582 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: yeah they're pretty thick, but... < 1294364585 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have bootcamp < 1294364585 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TN displays suck < 1294364592 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: also since TN displays are cheaper, they tend to have other shit too < 1294364593 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1294364594 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glossy < 1294364598 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid rounded edges hiding pixels < 1294364600 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. etc. etc. < 1294364603 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glossolalia < 1294364603 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at this: < 1294364608 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scan.co.uk/products/thermalright-ifx-10-backplate-motherboard-backside-extra-cpu-cooler-%28775-am2-939%29 < 1294364621 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: funnily enough that's the name of a song i like a lot < 1294364626 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you know what that is < 1294364630 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's freedom, bitch < 1294364680 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude... who looks at non-newegg sites when deciding on components < 1294364696 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the first hit < 1294364705 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also scan are a very good uk shop < 1294364728 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irrelevant, buying is irrelevant < 1294364732 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you look at newegg when looking < 1294364734 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :buying never happens < 1294364735 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my experience < 1294364759 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1294364773 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you seem to have some income now < 1294364777 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a good sign < 1294364896 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If elliott has more income than me, I < 1294364900 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be jealous < 1294364942 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i make 1k/day but my dad takes it all away to spend on HATRED < 1294364946 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trufax < 1294364948 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1294364949 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*1m/day < 1294364950 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo < 1294364955 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keys are literally right next to each other < 1294365001 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lliterally literally < 1294365004 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*literally < 1294365019 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you work contracts you could easily be doing 1k per day. < 1294365029 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When will we have figuratively literally literally? < 1294365031 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd probably have to move to london or reading. < 1294365032 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 1m? < 1294365037 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1m yen < 1294365038 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And have to say literally literally literally? < 1294365060 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION overdoses on literally
< 1294365060 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is an essentially fifteen-year-old part of my brain that sees the word work, contracts, and move to london, and immediately ignores you for the next ten minutes < 1294365095 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1294365128 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google wants to replace copumpkins with gopumpkins < 1294365185 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the fifteen year old part of your brain that sees the word "able to buy new toys" and "able to afford lawyers that tell people i don't like to fuck off" < 1294365210 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, word. i bet the chinese have single-words for each of those < 1294365217 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: yes indeed < 1294365231 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: also, i can tell people to fuck off without lawyers < 1294365240 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not always effectively < 1294365265 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my email has spam filters! < 1294365344 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it filter out court orders < 1294365349 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I feel a sudden need to bounce off walls? < 1294365360 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just earlier, I couldn't keep my eyes open? < 1294365362 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: i'm not really into the habit of getting court orders, are you? < 1294365366 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1294365370 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1294365381 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you had some sort of bs going on earlier though? < 1294365391 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :last summer < 1294365423 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: like uh what < 1294365442 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you said you had to live in some sort of boarding school of sort < 1294365451 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you didn't want to go to at all but school made you go to < 1294365455 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some crazy reason < 1294365459 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1294365482 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably someone else then\ < 1294365489 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: was that you? < 1294365499 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is totally crazy, it's plausible < 1294365637 0 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1294365745 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1294365771 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1294365862 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i want to see that convection based cpu cooler :D < 1294365872 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have to be at least 3 meters high :D < 1294365898 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to like < 1294365899 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go now < 1294365900 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to sleep? < 1294365904 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodbye? < 1294365905 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294365916 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1294366403 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get your excavation site, you are just blowing stuff up down there at random :D < 1294366417 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just do tnt columns < 1294366443 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RANDOM FOR THE RANDOM GOD < 1294366445 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XOM < 1294366461 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or preferably, just do row by row, but i guess that's boring < 1294366691 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it called if you're attracted to slime? < 1294366753 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :japs use a lot of this fake sperm, so what you have is basically people having sex in slime < 1294366840 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to ggl but all i get is "pedophiles are slime and should be killed" < 1294367027 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pedophile blob, coming to a cinema near you < 1294367063 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blobophile < 1294367089 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i even know what people who like sperm are called, although i have a guess < 1294367201 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they call that "bukkake" < 1294367229 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1294367236 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call what bukkake < 1294367266 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the slime thing? they do, but it's completely different, because you'll usually have a pretty mundane sex scene under all the slim < 1294367267 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1294367274 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike when there's actual wanking involved < 1294367283 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :japs do get physical then, ofc, as well, but less < 1294367302 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :american bukkake is much more formal < 1294367305 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1294367407 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's less euro and it's less clearly themed, or maybe i just notice differences easier because i'm from here, and therefore understand the european bukkake taste better < 1294367417 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not an expert on bukkake really, but i do dabble < 1294367435 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf are you on now < 1294367443 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1294367471 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you like the pun < 1294367526 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you've been attacked by the pedophile blob as a child < 1294367543 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294367648 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, german bukkake is very easy to spot of course < 1294368002 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly realizes that "bukkake" could mean "stomach cake" in norwegian
< 1294368089 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha. < 1294368201 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :buk = stomach? that's weir < 1294368203 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1294368311 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would've been better if i'd said dabble in it, didn't realize that works for both < 1294368313 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy norwegs < 1294368474 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's more precisely "abdomen" < 1294368492 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well that's better isn't it < 1294368512 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1294368582 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean doesn't it make more sense < 1294368612 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about it < 1294368683 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my confusion is probably due the fact that no:mage can mean _either_ stomach or abdomen < 1294368690 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1294368722 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what the finnish words mean, i think both means both < 1294368763 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a word that loosely translates as "stomach bag" < 1294368784 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is used with both words, so maybe that's what you're supposed to call the container < 1294368795 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean bag is used with both < 1294368864 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, we have "magesekk", which splits similarly and means only stomach < 1294368892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mahasäkki" < 1294368913 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's not the finnish word, säkki = sack) < 1294368916 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably borrowed at least the parts of that :D < 1294368929 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(laukku = bag) < 1294368943 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, we may have < 1294369224 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just said that because of mage = maha, since english didn't seem to have a friend for it < 1294369230 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stomach i guess < 1294369436 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gre:stoma => gre:stomakhos => lat:stomachus => old french:stomaque, estomac => middle english:stomach < 1294369445 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so definitely the same < 1294369545 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that does not show a link to "mage" < 1294369547 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno what i could've found that wouldn't have convinced me tho < 1294369558 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :machus vs maha < 1294369564 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pronounced macha < 1294369568 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1294369578 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...if a german pronounces it < 1294369610 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't show a direct link to mage, no < 1294369623 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those look like friends < 1294369625 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me < 1294369679 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh old english had maga < 1294369708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maga#Etymology_2 < 1294369753 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's slightly closer, maybe < 1294369774 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you pronounce that < 1294369784 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maygah? < 1294369828 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i wasn't really referring to the english, but to the etymology, which is obviously the same as no:mage < 1294369842 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, stomach is not related < 1294369895 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well g ~ h isn't that weird, so maha is then not related to stomach either < 1294369896 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's stoma + chos, the greek is a derivation with a suffix < 1294369908 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh indeed < 1294369933 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that, but i was already convinced enough not to read the rest < 1294369937 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean with brain < 1294369951 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1294369954 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like stoma may be related to no:stemme (voice) < 1294369961 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although why does that mean maga couldn't be from that? < 1294369970 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1294370001 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why couldn't the etymology be that sto dropped out for some reason :P < 1294370016 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN THEORY < 1294370048 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: because the addition of -chos happened _in_ greek, long after the word had been inherited to the other sister language branches < 1294370095 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm yeah i suppose greek isn't exactly a dead language < 1294370139 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1294370192 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not 100% convinced by that proof, although you are surely right < 1294370229 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well indeed it's not entirely impossible, you'd have to be a linguist and look at many languages to see how it was inherited < 1294370261 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's already clear from the list i gave that sto is not easy to dtop < 1294370267 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*drop < 1294370283 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why the fuck would a hundred year old language like norwegian suddenly drop it < 1294370307 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um it would have be dropped _long_ before that :D < 1294370311 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have to be < 1294370334 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point exactly, maybe < 1294370344 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how a sentence like that can have a point < 1294370357 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are cognates of mage in celtic and balto-slavic languages, according to that link < 1294370396 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have work tomorrow, kinda pointless even going because everyone will have left when i'd get there < 1294370411 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming i wanna sleep < 1294370452 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1294370686 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1294373138 0 :Wamanuz3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1294373719 0 :azaq23!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294373978 0 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294374224 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :“The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine.” - Abraham Lincoln < 1294374272 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Abraham Lincoln never said that." - Oscar Wilde < 1294374291 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The REAL two hardest problems in CS: Cache Invalidation, Naming Things, and Off by One Errors. < 1294374306 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yes. < 1294374333 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did #esoteric become #uncyclopedia < 1294374355 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably variable is writing an Oscar Wilde language. < 1294374375 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but was that off by one error caused by a cache invalidation? < 1294374394 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: OK THAT'S ALL MY FAULT < 1294374435 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall i saw a fake lincoln quote being teared to pieces on reddit a few weeks ago (i think) < 1294374468 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ... yes < 1294374495 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was something that it was almost plausible for him to have said, about corporations getting too much power. and it _was_ from the 19th century, but not by him. < 1294374504 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION considers writing HowTo:Play Mao
< 1294374514 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc. < 1294374543 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: and then a concise guide to playing mornington crescent, i assume? < 1294374573 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MEAN SINCE THE OFFICIAL RULES ARE SO LARGE < 1294374587 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe < 1294374601 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Mao guide would mostly be a guy complaining about how he doesn't get it < 1294374623 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inspired by a real-life guy who just didn't get it < 1294374624 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1294374635 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remotely < 1294374637 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: i _really_ think that quip above would have been better if you had named something in it. then it could have been three-way self-referential. < 1294374647 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, two-way. < 1294374668 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were happy when he left partway through and we could recover half the deck < 1294374678 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it wasn't mine :-( < 1294374681 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we were playing with two decks!) < 1294374684 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish it were < 1294374719 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: nihil novi sub soli < 1294374737 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sole < 1294374880 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing new under the sun? < 1294374893 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1294374928 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another nice self-referential quotation < 1294375003 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*torn < 1294375014 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294375995 0 :Behold!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294376647 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294376899 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294379275 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1294380773 0 :cal153!~cal@c-24-4-207-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294381035 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294381485 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294382008 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No text to send < 1294382259 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes text to send < 1294382644 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or text to send < 1294383182 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did they complete the next level in my game? < 1294383715 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294384236 0 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1294385356 0 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294385485 0 :azaq23!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1294385878 0 :Wamanuz4!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294385995 0 :Wamanuz3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1294386368 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any answers? < 1294386674 0 :Wamanuz5!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294386823 0 :Wamanuz4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1294387199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1294387200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1294387583 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294387745 0 :Wamanuz5!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294387882 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294387962 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294391195 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1294391601 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ilua < 1294392079 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a real channel? 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ACTION hopes he doesn't break anything by installing these things I downloaded I think they're supposed to be installed in order but I don't know what order I didn't download them in order
< 1294406144 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294406557 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294406636 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to play with Virtual PC
< 1294407040 0 :Wamanuz5!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294407224 0 :Wamanuz4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1294408506 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: There are no checks as to what version of Windows 7 is in use. < 1294408658 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...there is a check < 1294408677 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It checks when you try to use it < 1294408682 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long after installation < 1294408951 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Microsoft: What made you geniuses think that the best thing to do was put the XP Mode HD on the comp regardless of whether it's an acceptable host? < 1294409008 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1294409149 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294409177 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294410353 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294410496 0 :cheater00!~cheater@g231051178.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1294411608 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries Parallels
< 1294411619 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely wonders what the limitation in the trial is
< 1294411624 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION guesses that it's time limited
< 1294411634 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll flip a nut if it is, but yeah < 1294411757 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It unnerves me when emulation software goes to install in Program Files (x86) < 1294412187 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1294412195 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it's no a time-based limtation < 1294412201 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead... < 1294412213 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOHHH < 1294412215 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n/m < 1294412283 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a 30-day trial < 1294412490 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@CPE001f5b00390f-CM001e6b2335dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294412557 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I like Parallels < 1294412914 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1294412935 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294413050 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@61.251.165.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294413679 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1294414138 0 :j-invariant!~aaaa@unaffiliated/j-invariant JOIN :#esoteric < 1294414295 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok then < 1294414346 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is Sgeo pronounced < 1294414407 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/sgeo.wav < 1294414514 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to get Windows 98 to install in Parallels: Tell Parallels that the Guest OS is not Windows 98 < 1294414558 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1294414696 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd love Parallels much more if it WORKED < 1294414701 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bloody piece of shist < 1294414714 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wwhat are you supposed to do while you wait for the sun to come up? < 1294415404 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1294415712 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1294415794 0 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1294415949 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One good thing about VirtualBox: It actually works < 1294416022 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found these virtualizer programs all took too much RAM < 1294416540 0 :cheater-!~cheater@e181128171.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1294416569 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294417461 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294417764 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294418042 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~nice@p5B1332EE.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294418930 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe VMWare Server was breaking other random shit in the other emulators < 1294419270 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, apparently it was < 1294419272 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION WTFs
< 1294419317 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1294419471 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it wasn't < 1294419474 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes insane
< 1294419575 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294419576 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"goes" < 1294419579 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294419620 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-65-80.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1294419697 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what are you supposed to do in your cave while waiting for the sun to come up? < 1294419717 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: try making a house/castle, not a cave; but, basically; < 1294419735 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: mining; building (if you have a lit-and-encased-by-wall build project you can stay), < 1294419739 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: crafting < 1294419753 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: you can even go out with a sword and enough armour < 1294419780 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also.. every time I die I lose all my rare stuff like coal :( < 1294419789 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried putting it all in my cave but it disappeard < 1294419814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: make chests, duh < 1294419836 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :store things in chest, put all your valuable shit in chests before doingsomething dangerous < 1294419837 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chests < 1294419839 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*doing something < 1294419844 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iI dono't know if its cheating or not to read the wiki < 1294419867 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Naw. < 1294419870 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting is basically essential. < 1294419881 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Even the people who play without spoilers get told how to craft certain things by friends < 1294419900 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool chest is easy to make! < 1294419912 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294419915 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: There's really only a small finite number of things you can "spoil", and knowing them is pretty much essential to play the game well, so it's probably not worth worrying about. < 1294419931 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello everyone < 1294419935 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1294419984 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: now _here's_ a question, what do you do if you spawn in a desert biome < 1294420000 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You delete the world and start again. < 1294420006 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CORRECT < 1294420007 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you still talking about minecraft < 1294420009 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a biome? < 1294420009 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1294420014 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or find your way to some trees. < 1294420017 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: biome is a region of area of a certain type < 1294420022 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: there's desert, forest, ... < 1294420023 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, different terrain and flora. < 1294420025 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: snow... < 1294420059 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: rain forest, swamp, seasonal forest, forest, savanna, woods, taiga, desert, plains, tundra < 1294420064 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the Nether but it hardly counts < 1294420080 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: that last but one line is the full list < 1294420084 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, significantly, some biomes have no accessible tree. < 1294420089 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Biomes :P < 1294420089 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*trees < 1294420111 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since such basic things as mining require wood, you're screwed. < 1294420116 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont' like cutting up trees because I worry about them all disappearing < 1294420162 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, breaking leaves gets you saplings. < 1294420162 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: um they drop saplings < 1294420168 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: the leaves decay automatically < 1294420171 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones that don't, hit them < 1294420172 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plant the saplings, and a new tree will eventually grow. < 1294420174 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: then pick up the little tree saplings < 1294420180 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I planted sapling but they just stay there < 1294420182 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plant one in the same place with right click < 1294420189 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: you have to wait for day and stuff < 1294420194 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just leave them, they'll grow < 1294420202 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: there has to be three free blocks above < 1294420203 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they need light < 1294420213 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: best idea is to plant one in the same place as the tree you destroyed < 1294420255 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make a little indoor arboretum if you are very paranoid. < 1294420260 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as a farm. < 1294420332 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I FOUND THE BEST MOUNTAIN EVER < 1294420386 0 :Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1294420386 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, better than Mt. Hoover? < 1294420395 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck yes. In single player. < 1294420408 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screenshot? < 1294420497 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. Second. < 1294420566 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://ompldr.org/vNnZ1eA < 1294420568 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://ompldr.org/vNnZ1eQ < 1294420570 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://ompldr.org/vNnZ1eg < 1294420575 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: These photos were taken *on top of a tall mountain*. < 1294420577 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a snow biome. < 1294420577 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294420580 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The arch stops snow falling inside. < 1294420589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also a lot of trees nearby. < 1294420594 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiw cool < 1294420621 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, you clearly haven't seen the glory of Mt. Hoover. < 1294420637 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I havenot7 < 1294420679 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, weirdness: I have been nominated to the RationalWiki Foundation's Board of Trustees. < 1294420684 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that that means very much. < 1294420700 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that exist < 1294420710 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: are you gonna come on our server? < 1294420711 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1294420802 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1294420815 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hve to go out first < 1294420937 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294420955 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1: Post "HALP IVE BEEN MEGA HACKED" to stack overflow 2: Infinite karma problem stackexachange? < 1294420967 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294420976 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :server fault* < 1294420994 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1294421017 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294421108 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh god monster noises on Peaceful < 1294421275 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far, VMware Workstation is working < 1294421282 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wish I had more than a trial key though < 1294421293 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god Sgeo is liveblogging again < 1294421325 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, one word: pirate. < 1294421343 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Four words: I'm trying and failing < 1294421535 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :scarf < 1294421537 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1294421586 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, EXPLAIN YOURSELF < 1294421611 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's sometimes scarf. < 1294421725 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is reading Dr McNinja a bad sign? < 1294421759 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1294421768 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a sign that you are reading a webcomic < 1294421802 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might turn into me! < 1294421832 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Pretty sure Sgeo doesn't read Achewood, it would be a good way to distance yourself from him. < 1294421848 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, please tell me Dr McNinja isn't something you read. < 1294421850 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELPFUL ANTI-SGEO ADVICE DISPENSED DAILY < 1294421863 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, surely Sgeo reads Achewood! < 1294421866 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I've glanced at it, but haven't gotten into it < 1294421870 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a furry, after all! < 1294421881 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But Achewood is actually amusing and interesting, see < 1294421889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for some definitions < 1294421929 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I dropped Freefall to avoid Sgeo, and that's as far as I'll go. < 1294421946 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION assumes you're joking
< 1294421969 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd seriously stop reading a webcomic just because I read it? < 1294421994 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That and I was losing patience with it. < 1294422012 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that makes more sense < 1294422019 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've decided I'll catch up every few months, since the story moves at a snail's pace. < 1294422073 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I want your full webcomic list, though. < 1294422259 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd, Freefall, Dilbert [ok, not a webcomic], User Friendly on occasion not that it updates anymore, Order of the Stick, Erfworld, Bonobo Conspiracy, Superosity, 1/0 [dead], Triangle & Robert [dead], Jesus & Mo, atheistcartoons, Subnormality, The Non-Adventures of Wonderella, Basic Instructions, Cyanide & Happiness, SMBC < 1294422267 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cowbirds in Love < 1294422544 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd? Why? < 1294422659 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Sgeo has no taste. < 1294422683 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/0 and T&R are not so much "dead" as completed... < 1294422700 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fuck fuck fuck you read Subnormality why stop it I <3 subnormality you're not allowed to < 1294422775 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh bonobo conspiracy is written by the guy who wrote the "what colour are your bits?" thing... who puts stock in astrology :D < 1294422783 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if that'll make Sgeo vomit and stop reading or something
< 1294422829 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm vaguely aware of that already < 1294423075 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: btw, oklopol has been mining in the excavation pits :) < 1294423100 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, any news re the TNT kit? < 1294423109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :None. < 1294423113 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I know of. < 1294424092 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A large fraction of the MC community hate people who play it on peaceful, apparently. < 1294424096 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I despair. < 1294424132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hate howso. < 1294424337 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dislike for not playing it The Right Way, I assume. < 1294424338 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mwunsch.tumblr.com/post/1179254565/notchdrones < 1294424341 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urgh. < 1294424374 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There totally needs to be a survival horror version of MC. < 1294424395 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With old mines which are crawling with monsters due to a single, minor breach. < 1294424400 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*abandoned < 1294424434 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That guy using \alpha is iiiiiritating < 1294424437 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*rr < 1294424441 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extremely so. < 1294424571 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear M. Wunsch: I don't care how many hours he works in a day, I care about him acting like an idiot, I care about him being a jerk to people who have worked insane amounts with his stupid, obfuscated code to produce amazing mods, I care about him not testing the product he's _sold_ for even FIVE SECONDS before pushing it — beta is no excuse — and I care about how he does shit like badmouth git with no justification when he is far < 1294424571 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : less of an engineer than anyone who's worked on git. < 1294424616 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I care that he's selling a game with potential that he's wasting by doing stupid shit and not thinking; he is clearly good enough at coding in theory to be able to do this properly, he just _isn't_. And I care that the raving hordes of fanboys lynch you for even suggesting any of this might be true. < 1294424620 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck him. < 1294424624 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(him=Wunsch) < 1294424672 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: [[And here is Notch, who has mastered the art of computer science to express a creative ambition, making a game on his own time and finding success because of it. We should all be “sitting on his cock”â€Ļfiguratively, of course.]] < 1294424686 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... I don't care whether that's figurative or not. < 1294424707 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If I were Notch, and I poured all of my creative ambition and energy into this project and was called a “lazy cunt” by some nothing, I would immediately cease working on the project. I would send out an update patch that bombs the game and makes it unplayable. And I would take the money and run. And I would never again bless this planet with my creativity and thoughtfulness." < 1294424714 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr not only is my skin so thick as to be non-existent, but I am a gigantic asshole. < 1294424721 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who.... who wrote that. < 1294424735 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: M. Wunsch in that post you linked. < 1294424745 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He longs to sit on Notch's cock ... figuratively, of course. < 1294424892 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I demand that you let me copy that rant to M. Wunsch to TV Tropes' Just Bugs Me page for MC. < 1294424915 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Sure. But omit the fuck him part. < 1294424919 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Also don't attribute me. :p < 1294425018 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1294425031 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1294425124 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY PARALLELS HATES WINDOWS 98 < 1294425307 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, FWIW, I added it. < 1294425316 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1294425356 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sec, repairing the formatting. < 1294425393 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustBugsMe/Minecraft < 1294425471 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[nothing wrong with rars, but whatever.]] — The author of hMod, when someone asked him for a zipped file. < 1294425510 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arc.opera.com/ping.html < 1294425583 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "can I have a tarball" "ew, pervert" < 1294425619 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, hMod is being superseded. < 1294425630 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to N days go < 1294425631 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ago < 1294425631 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, saw that. Bucket? < 1294425639 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bukkit < 1294425680 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294425733 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Buy the damn game and do drudge work on Cube. < 1294425744 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, FWIW, who was Notch a jerk to? < 1294425780 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: All mod developers. < 1294425788 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That "frown upon" bullshit. < 1294425801 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the passive-agressiveish "very grey area legally" from the same sentence. < 1294425807 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What "frown up on" bullshit? < 1294425817 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See his ancient blog post. < 1294425843 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "First of all, most “mods” that add new features to the game are in a very gray area legally, and I frown upon them." < 1294425847 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1294425850 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bastard. < 1294425876 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr "These '''mods''' -- I use scare quotes despite the fact that they are, in fact, mods -- are something I COULD, hypothetically, sue all your fucking asses over. Also, I hate you." < 1294425885 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so that's actually longer than the non-tl;dr :D < 1294425887 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't wait until he open-sources the code and good programmers fix it. < 1294425899 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I, also, cannot wait for infinity. < 1294425905 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is something rather difficult to wait for. < 1294425907 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesyesyes < 1294425910 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I, too, < 1294425911 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is so awesome. < 1294425920 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A free MMO with _proper_ gameplay. < 1294425923 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And space! < 1294425928 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Newtonian combat! < 1294425946 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Wait what. < 1294425953 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define it. < 1294425954 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, < 1294425957 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Infinity. < 1294425962 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1294425966 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1294425972 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For which I cannot actually wait.) < 1294425975 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW EMBARRASSING < 1294426001 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT A QUANTUM MMO < 1294426038 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82789 < 1294426050 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A joke, or TRUTH? < 1294426299 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is Notch actually against *redstone circuits* < 1294426346 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure he isn't, which kind of ruins things. < 1294426353 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Umm...no. :P < 1294426375 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point of that kind of parody is to take reality and twist it, rather than making stuff up. < 1294426558 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294426619 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, have you set up that SSP server? < 1294426642 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No. I either need to upgrade my VPS or ... my internet connection :P < 1294426664 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything fun going on on ineiros' server? < 1294426682 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"4:29PM The screens are now an undulating blue cube field. And man -- are they ever undulating." < 1294426691 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, I'm TNTing ineiros and everyone he holds dear. < 1294426694 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not really. Except, yes, really.) < 1294426699 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[I was skeptical at first, but this is a much better game than Fallout 3. Heaps of crashes and console freeze bugs.]] — Notch on Fallout 3. < 1294426707 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1294426773 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fallout 3: better than Fallout 3. < 1294426778 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ITYYM New Vegas.) < 1294426779 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ITYM < 1294426789 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[4:39PM Oh, Zoll's on stage now! He's... holding a remote? Oh, he's sitting on a couch and watching... a video of his mother being pregnant? Oh boy. < 1294426789 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4:40PM "My parents were totally stoked when I finally arrived... Grandma said I must have been the most documented kid ever."]] — document of Samsung keynote < 1294426814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OMG. FALLOUT NEW VEGAS WAS DEVELOPED BY OBSIDIAN ENTERTAINMENT < 1294426815 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONSPIRACY < 1294426836 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes. < 1294426900 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Speaking of that, if you haven't seen this you must: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKIkw3LIoQ < 1294426943 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God that's creepy. < 1294426949 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It gets better. < 1294426983 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The great thing is, the first time it just looks like your vision is all messed up, and then it KEEPS GOING < 1294427024 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH < 1294427030 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOB-WALK < 1294427036 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That has to be the scariest thing in a game, like, ever. < 1294427055 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any complete of my game, yet? < 1294427060 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1294427066 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or any part of it? < 1294427076 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't j-invariant playing this game? Did they get past that level? < 1294427104 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know. < 1294427156 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they are not on this IRC at this time? < 1294427209 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1294427217 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, the irony of Notch complaining about someone else's buggy game is delightful. < 1294427235 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/live-from-samsungs-ces-2011-keynote/?sort=oldest&refresh=0 Oh my god, this is the most amazing thing ever. < 1294427241 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least second most amazing. < 1294427324 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION now wonders what the first is
< 1294427325 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the most amazing? < 1294427357 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Chocolate unicorns. < 1294427389 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have only myself to blame. < 1294427395 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, and oerjan. < 1294427403 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1294427417 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been reading reddit too much, i feel like adding bacon to that < 1294427419 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5:03PM Demoing the change from ESPN to CNN. This is really cool stuff. < 1294427420 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5:04PM Cool in the sense that it's happening on the Galaxy Tab, not cool in the sense that he changed a TV channel. < 1294427503 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I get sound working in this VM, I'll finally be able to play a kid's game that I haven't played in years1 < 1294427504 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1294427519 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: And then, finally, you can become a child once more. < 1294427642 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell *is* this Cloud thing people keep going on about? < 1294427705 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: probably has something to do with global warming < 1294427712 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1294427719 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :steam is a greenhouse gas, after all < 1294427742 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, cloud seeding is one of the proposed methods of geoengineering < 1294427756 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's unclear how one would store data in a cloud. < 1294427799 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294427804 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The letter A just exploded from serif to sans-serif. It's hard to explain that any better.]] < 1294427842 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This guy is amazing. < 1294427848 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → food
< 1294427870 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well i read they managed to store data in _bacteria_, so why not < 1294428157 0 :cal153!~cal@70.36.237.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294428199 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@CPE001f5b00390f-CM001e6b2335dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294428597 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, storing data in bacteria is easy! < 1294428611 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They already _have_ a built-in storage medium! < 1294428622 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1294428628 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A linear, quaternary one at that. < 1294428652 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should ask some homeopaths, i hear they are experts at storing data in water < 1294428681 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the sociopaths < 1294428682 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DATA IN BLOOD < 1294428774 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you still have that symbolic-mode parsing code? I feel like converting it to Haskell. < 1294428880 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no such thing as sociopaths. stop believing that nonsense or i will make _sure_ you regret it. < 1294428929 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, symbolic-mode parsing code? < 1294428931 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Now now, be more classy; a decent sociopath would go "I see.", smile genuinely, convince you into going home with him, and disembowel you. < 1294428934 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, that rhymes. < 1294428942 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes. As in o+x,g=wr. < 1294428946 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o=g,g+a. < 1294428956 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Most commonly e.g. "+x" or "a+w". < 1294428962 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod's argument, basically, when not octal. < 1294428969 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN'T HERE YOU I AM RAPPING ABOUT SYMBOLIC MODE PARSING CODE IN MY HEAD < 1294429001 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's a ridiculous suggestion, i don't want to have to clean up that stuff < 1294429030 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wow. Lazy sociopathy is surprisingly hilarious. < 1294429048 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I would kill you for no reason at all, but I'd probably have to hide your body and that sounds like a lot of work." < 1294429071 0 :j-invariant!~aaaa@unaffiliated/j-invariant JOIN :#esoteric < 1294429095 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"5:29PM Zoll remembers going to an amusement park with his dad for the first time. He wishes his dad had taken pictures in 3D, because the pictures they took don't adequately capture the memory. Oh, Zoll." < 1294429105 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[5:29PM BK: "Last year we launched the world's first Full HD 3D TV! That's a lot of initials."]] < 1294429133 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: while i _hope_ i have a more solid moral than that, that still feels eerily close to how i feel about annoying people sometimes < 1294429145 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i... please don't kill me? < 1294429154 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or... anyone < 1294429167 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're nowhere near _that_ annoying. < 1294429194 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, RUN < 1294429197 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OR ANYONE < 1294429207 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not nearly as bad as it could be though - could be specified as a LED LCD TV, and they could throw in SCART and HDMI and VGA and DVI as well... < 1294429209 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hi < 1294429224 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[5:35PM BK just gave Katzenerg a pair of prescription 3D glasses. "These are so light -- maybe I'll just wear these all the time instead of my real glasses." Sure you will, Jeff. Sure you will.]] < 1294429239 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an explicit R^2 → R bijection? < 1294429244 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't seem to annoy oerjan < 1294429249 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: plenty < 1294429249 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just you and elliott < 1294429253 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe that would let you see the world in 3D though? < 1294429257 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Sgeo has no idea how annoying he is. < 1294429259 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Do you figure out the game yet? Remember you can block the door so that it won't close all the way, and then you get get out and go back in to the dragons room. < 1294429263 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, tell me one < 1294429264 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: :D < 1294429271 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then if you win, the other dragon will give you back the ammunition and give you the key. < 1294429279 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I could not defeat the dragons < 1294429279 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: represent as infinite stream of base 2, intermingle < 1294429283 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1294429285 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I mean, that would be *AWESOME* < 1294429288 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1294429289 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: :D < 1294429292 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: super HD < 1294429300 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[5:39PM Zoll's back! "Nature rules!" Oh, Zoll. Zolly Zoll Zoll.]] < 1294429305 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :super HD *3D*, no less < 1294429315 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, there is that. < 1294429332 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[5:43PM "If you are to be successful, this child must be an inspiration to us all... a child of the 21st century. We must think of him every time we create a product." Can we never think of Zoll again, though? Is that also an option?]] < 1294429337 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: I give you a hint. Block the door while it is closing, and it won't close. And then you can go north, and then south and you can destroy the piece of the door. The dragon can be removed in the same way. < 1294429347 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you need to patch that up a bit because of the 0.111... = 1.000... issue, but that's essentially constructive, yes < 1294429368 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing machines accept recursively enumerable languages. ---> what are "recursively enumerable languages" < 1294429370 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, y'know what was a cool idea? Sierpiński numbers! < 1294429387 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable, the type of languages Turing machines accept. < 1294429397 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, no < 1294429400 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-} < 1294429403 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: languages that you can enumerate, recursively < 1294429407 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable, quite clearly. < 1294429415 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursively_enumerable_language < 1294429420 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A recursively enumerable language is a formal language for which there exists a Turing machine (or other computable function) which will enumerate all valid strings of the language. Note that, if the language is infinite, the enumerating algorithm provided can be chosen so that it avoids repetitions, since we can test whether the string produced for number n is "already" produced for a number which is less than n. If it already is pro < 1294429420 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duced, use the output for input n+1 instead (recursively), but again, test whether it is "new". < 1294429425 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A recursively enumerable language is a formal language for which there exists a Turing machine (or other computable function) that will halt and accept when presented with any string in the language as input but may either halt and reject or loop forever when presented with a string not in the language. Contrast this to recursive languages, which require that the Turing machine halts in all cases. < 1294429492 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover, I don't seem to annoy oerjan <-- actually their constant picking on you annoys me more than you do. although you _do_ need to do something about your father issues. (so do i.) < 1294429524 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I could destroy the door but the dragons still kill me < 1294429542 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I tried to be nice to him and felt pity for his issues! but it was too much! too much! < 1294429546 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, if you go and tell Sgeo's father that he's a complete cretin I will be so happy. < 1294429556 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so i've given up :( < 1294429556 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM NOT INTERPRETING THAT ANY OTHER WAY < 1294429586 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll go tell oerjan's father the same! < 1294429603 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: OK. Remember dragons cannot move diagonally. You can stand next to the north edge so the dragons step near there (you can move faster than dragons can). And now you can go back to the other board north and then east/west and then south. < 1294429677 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also dragons are allowed to move in lava, but it is difficult to see due to same color is red. < 1294429691 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: eek < 1294429693 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I get it! < 1294429697 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: on the plane now < 1294429706 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll tell elliott's father something. < 1294429725 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Try "fuck you". < 1294429743 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Someone experienced with MegaZeux might or might not know this. But it can be learnable by the codes for MegaZeux, too. < 1294429774 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm sorry, your quota of people whom I should murder or kidnap has been exhausted. < 1294429786 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "Fuck you", not murder or kidnap. < 1294429802 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, just putting that out there. < 1294429822 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Murder/kidnap would be a waste of time. < 1294429860 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also, I tend to avoid swearing in general. < 1294429871 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It is, in this case, well, well worth it. < 1294429886 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is in order that I have something to say when I rm -rf ~ * by accident.) < 1294429903 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I win .. this time! < 1294429917 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I go for compound curses when that happens. < 1294429931 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Yes. Now you have to figure out which one is the real key. (You might create a save file at this point, in case you make mistake) < 1294429942 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Normal sentence: "...fucking...". rm -rf: "FUCKING PISS-SHITTING TWATBASKET" < 1294429952 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK, so more likely "Fuckfuchklfcucklik just deleted my home directory aaarhgiudfhgjkgljlkfhjd") < 1294429955 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did find the key < 1294430000 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Good! Now you can ask the other dragon for the other key and they will give you back your ammunition, too. < 1294430014 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/IdiotProgramming < 1294430026 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone comment! < 1294430073 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Also from the programming side, libraries developed by the Department Of Redundancy Department where you have to lapse into Pokemon Speak to write any meaningful code. For instance, take this line from Debian's version of awesome's rc.lua: < 1294430074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ "Debian", debian.menu.Debian_menu.Debian } < 1294430074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be clear, "menu" is the only member of "debian", and "Debian_menu" is the only member of "debian.menu".]] < 1294430078 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is... not actually all that bad. < 1294430087 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously "debian" is reserved for Debian-related stuff to avoid namespace clashing. < 1294430099 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :debian.menu is reserved for {Debian menu}-related things. < 1294430109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the {Debian menu} contains the root item {Debian}, I believe, which is the actual Debian menu. < 1294430118 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd make it debian.menu.Debian, but still. < 1294430178 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Thing that irritates me about TV Trope: Linking every reference to MemeticMutation. < 1294430186 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I REALISE WHAT IT IS, I'M NOT AN IDIOT, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING < 1294430189 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO REFERENCES AREN'T MEMES < 1294430199 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, indeed. < 1294430553 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main :: IO () < 1294430553 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = do < 1294430553 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : args <- getArgs < 1294430554 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : case args of < 1294430556 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ("-n":args') -> putStr (unwords args') < 1294430558 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : _ -> putStrLn (unwords args) < 1294430560 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan < 1294430562 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOLF < 1294430933 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = do args <- getArgs; putStr . unwords $ case args of ("-n":args') -> args' ; _ -> args ++ ["\n"] -- I'm not sure I consider this an improvement... < 1294431016 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: erm does that not put a space before the newline < 1294431024 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1294431028 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unwords ["poop","\n"] < 1294431030 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "poop \n" < 1294431046 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Now did you figure out the next part of this game? < 1294431047 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :updog < 1294431047 0 :updog!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's updog? < 1294431056 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did we get lambdabot? < 1294431082 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, when I convinced Cale to let us have it permanently with my dashing good looks and wit. < 1294431090 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that means unwords cannot be combined :( < 1294431092 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read: I asked him. < 1294431101 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: foreversad < 1294431103 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*forever sad < 1294431105 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no this part is crazy! I will take a while to figure it out < 1294431109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can < 1294431112 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just append \n to the last :D < 1294431120 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (make sure this handles no args) < 1294431125 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. hm. < 1294431144 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which sounds like it's unlikely to be shorter < 1294431159 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BUT ZANIER < 1294431166 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: After trying for a while if you cannot figure out, you can ask questions about things you do not know about the working of MegaZeux if you need to (such as how specific objects work and so on). < 1294431176 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks zzo38 < 1294431189 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm note that the case can be < 1294431202 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : case args of < 1294431202 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ("-n":args') -> putStr (unwords args') < 1294431202 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : args' -> putStrLn (unwords args') < 1294431205 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. rhs is the same < 1294431207 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think this helps < 1294431230 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because you still cannot combine the args', not being in the same scope < 1294431247 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1294431248 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D < 1294431265 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait rhs isn't even the same there < 1294431277 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we could have "helper f xs = f (unwords xs)" < 1294431540 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = do args <- getArgs; putStr . uncurry ((++) . unwords) $ case args of ("-n":args') -> (args',"") ; _ -> (args,"\n") < 1294431544 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not tested) < 1294431574 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you are a bad person? < 1294431576 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are a bad person < 1294431580 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294431594 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: now make it point-free < 1294431624 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: main=do a<-getArgs;putStr.uncurry((++).unwords)$case a of("-n":b)->(b,"");_->(a,"\n") < 1294431626 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my small contribution < 1294431628 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :point-free-ing case statements is not precisely nice < 1294431641 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: psht < 1294431668 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main :: IO () < 1294431668 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = eachFile ((B.putStr =<<) . B.hGetContents) =<< getArgs < 1294431674 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you think my cat implementation (pictured) is too readable? < 1294431700 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't even recall eachFile existed
< 1294431756 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle hInteract < 1294431756 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1294431783 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google tells me System.IO.Utils has one < 1294431797 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i wrote it :D < 1294431807 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1294431807 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eachFile :: (Handle -> IO ()) -> [String] -> IO () < 1294431807 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eachFile f [] = f stdin < 1294431807 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eachFile f xs = mapM_ doFile xs < 1294431808 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : where doFile "-" = f stdin < 1294431810 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : doFile fn = withFile fn ReadMode f < 1294431812 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Utilities.hs < 1294431828 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I should probably split ((B.putStr =<<) . B.hGetContents) back into being named cat, though < 1294431953 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's B.hGetContents >>> B.putStr, i think < 1294431974 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or >=> < 1294431981 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (>=>) < 1294431982 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a (m :: * -> *) b c. (Monad m) => (a -> m b) -> (b -> m c) -> a -> m c < 1294432008 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<=<) < 1294432009 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall b (m :: * -> *) c a. (Monad m) => (b -> m c) -> (a -> m b) -> a -> m c < 1294432111 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so many fuckin arrows yo < 1294432122 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src <=> < 1294432122 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. The more you drive -- the dumber you get. < 1294432124 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src <=< < 1294432124 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. < 1294432127 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, what should be have in TeXnicard, is a parser that can compile a Inform7-like code into a C code. So that you can use the cards in a computer game as well. < 1294432128 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1294432133 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@source <=< < 1294432133 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<=< not available < 1294432139 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@source >=> < 1294432140 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>=> not available < 1294432146 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@source (>=>) < 1294432146 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>=>) not available < 1294432152 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1294432170 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help @source < 1294432170 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1294432176 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help source < 1294432177 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :source . Lookup the url of fptools libraries < 1294432183 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1294432198 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle >=> < 1294432199 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad (>=>) :: Monad m => (a -> m b) -> (b -> m c) -> a -> m c < 1294432204 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1294432218 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it does say the module < 1294432244 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't played with lambdabot for ages
< 1294432245 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (>=>) < 1294432245 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. < 1294432248 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help src < 1294432248 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :src . Display the implementation of a standard function < 1294432253 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well @source would not have worked, any way :) < 1294432254 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anyway < 1294432262 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1294432297 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src map < 1294432298 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :map _ [] = [] < 1294432298 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :map f (x:xs) = f x : map f xs < 1294432308 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>=> and <=< were added a couple years ago or so < 1294432321 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src fix < 1294432321 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix f = let x = f x in x < 1294432332 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange... < 1294432339 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's strange < 1294432357 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the let? < 1294432361 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it uses the Report's Prelude code. < 1294432364 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: for sharing < 1294432369 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: fix f = f (fix f) eats memory < 1294432373 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without a sufficiently smart compiler) < 1294432375 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: to ensure the value is not reevaluated < 1294432378 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas "let x = f x" is more like a circular list < 1294432385 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's not a list, you know what i mean :) < 1294432386 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely GHC is a Sufficiently Smart Compiler? < 1294432425 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: except sometimes the _other_ choice also eats memory, so ghc does not always try to be smarter than you < 1294432477 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: at least, until it gets {-# LANGUAGE MindReading #-} < 1294432483 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not long, at this rate < 1294432484 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe not in the case of fix < 1294432568 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1294432572 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: however some of that code is shared with other compilers than ghc, or at least used to be when there were others < 1294432608 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc may add rules pragmas for its own optimizations < 1294432685 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the code may be inherited from the haskell 98 report < 1294432692 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not fix though) < 1294432849 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1294432902 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were other compilers? < 1294432937 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah! Hugs! wait. < 1294432943 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there /is/ < 1294432948 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are* rather < 1294432958 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Yhc < 1294432962 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also nhc is an old one i think < 1294433099 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of card games have circular text boxes? < 1294433218 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (>=>0 < 1294433219 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parse error: < 1294433219 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : --count=20 (>=>0 < 1294433219 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1294433219 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (>=>) < 1294433220 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad (>=>) :: Monad m => (a -> m b) -> (b -> m c) -> a -> m c < 1294434064 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=110095#p1626297 < 1294434134 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is crazily awesome. < 1294434134 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'m addicted < 1294434147 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Erm, are we looking at the same thing. < 1294434162 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[[img]Minecraft%20lava[/img] < 1294434162 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether this picture works, but it demonstrates the demonic power of above land lava!]] < 1294434165 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I link to. < 1294434169 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: buy it, do drudge work on Cube on server. < 1294434173 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*linked < 1294434192 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK/ < 1294434348 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eachFileInteract f = eachFile (\h -> B.putStr =<< (f <$> B.hGetContents h)) < 1294434356 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: POINTFREE IT :D < 1294434581 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eachFile (B.putStr . f <=< B.hGetContents) < 1294434604 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1294434627 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1294434650 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: THAT'S NOT POINT-FREE < 1294434659 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1294434666 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's as pretty as it can be < 1294434666 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy ugly :D < 1294434708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eachFileInteract = eachFile . (<=< B.hGetContents) . (B.putStr .) < 1294434721 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: good! now inline all the functions < 1294434764 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1294435085 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i need a posix standards opinion < 1294435336 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=110095&sid=a30c290f6bd796ded3e2a348a40cf3c9&start=30#p1635944 < 1294435460 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm? < 1294435477 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Is it OK if, e.g., rev(1) accepts only valid UTF-8? < 1294435495 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is rev even POSIX? < 1294435511 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: mentally substitute some other text processing filter, then < 1294435533 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott-Hirds-MacBook-Air:hsybox ehird$ echo 'häagen-dazs' | ./rev < 1294435533 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :szad-negaäh < 1294435533 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott-Hirds-MacBook-Air:hsybox ehird$ ./rev /dev/random < 1294435535 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rev: /dev/random: hGetContents: invalid argument (Illegal byte sequence) < 1294435537 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that tree is much better than me. < 1294435542 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You are inferior. < 1294435546 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My life doesn't have a purpose any more. < 1294435547 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, such as sed or cut? hm < 1294435581 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Bonus question -- is it even valid to do the Right Thing on valid UTF-8, and do it dumbly on invalid text? Or does POSIX actually require that you mangle non-ASCII text? < 1294435588 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, does POSIX say anything about it? (the utf-8 stuff) < 1294435595 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i'm askin'! < 1294435632 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have idea. TeXnicard could ignore pages in the DVI file that have negative page numbers. This way you can check for whatsits in a box by \shipout\lastbox and similar things to that. < 1294435654 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I know posix from an user perspective, not from an implementer perspective. And my guess is that it is locale dependent < 1294435671 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you check posix yourself, my computer is too heavily loaded to open such a huge pdf < 1294435687 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't wanna dig through N pages. (Also, don't you just use the HTML version? It has a nicer UI.) < 1294435702 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is there one for POSIX.1-2008? < 1294435702 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to me that things like rev(1) would probably be required by POSIX to have no friggin' clue what Unicode is, and just recognize char 0x0A < 1294435735 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes. < 1294435737 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, except as far as I can tell from some quick checks rev(1) comes from BSD and is not specced by posix < 1294435744 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah :P < 1294435746 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"things like" < 1294435752 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1294435761 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/ < 1294435764 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: POSIX 2008. < 1294435780 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, back when I downloaded 2008 it was like 2 weeks after being ratified. And there was no html version then < 1294435793 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: boosters have apparently been fixed in the source code repository according to heresy < 1294435797 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy redoing your minecart tracks < 1294435802 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, fixed as in? < 1294435808 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in they don't work any more. < 1294435832 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how reliable is this source? < 1294435837 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very obvious definition of "fixed" < 1294435842 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, TWO people on Minecraft forums! http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=128232 < 1294435873 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well could just be a rather mediocre hoax < 1294435885 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extremely mediocre < 1294435905 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1294435973 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, played with craftbook on local test server btw. It's fun. Stuff like elevators with signs where you right click on sign to go up/down and bridges and what not < 1294435983 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's a nice hmod plugin < 1294436004 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't tried it's minecart stuff but it does have some booster blocks and such < 1294436143 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Craftbook? < 1294436161 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, a hmod plugin that seems rather nice < 1294436205 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also I decided that the castle was not viable even when scaled down. Considering if I might do it with worldedit or similar. If I make the inner fort in obsidian it would be about 60000 obsidian or so I think. Which would be awesome but utterly infeasible without help from such a mod. < 1294436218 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck it would be a pain even in other materials < 1294436232 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and that would be just hollow, rouge approximation < 1294436257 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Why not just make it manually, you have like 9348579845793845798345365 resources... < 1294436287 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! /me spawned OFF a beach < 1294436305 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not on my local test server no. And even with faster-render and region save single player is still unplayably slow. < 1294436314 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the server I can run on another computer on the lan) < 1294436327 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one with good cpu but sucky intel graphics) < 1294436346 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh spawned above sea level < 1294436351 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think C ought to have a #try #catch that works at *compile time* (not at run time). < 1294436353 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh? < 1294436357 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Doing what. < 1294436373 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Catching compiler errors and warnings. < 1294436377 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294436377 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1294436389 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that sounds quite interesting (also rather mad) < 1294436444 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hey seeing "uncaught syntax error" would be epic :P < 1294436462 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uncaught syntax exception I guess < 1294436499 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, wtf mcedit is hard to use. < 1294436535 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes it is. And for me it is slow too < 1294436547 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. Question. < 1294436554 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cobblestone doesn't come naturally, does it. < 1294436562 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, a dungeon. < 1294436563 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But er. < 1294436564 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it does. Lava + water. Also in dungeons < 1294436566 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-mossy cobblestone? < 1294436574 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i mention that sand fell to reveal this :D < 1294436576 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, dungeons have non-mossy as well < 1294436592 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha... the dungeon spawned underneath sand < 1294436594 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the sand fell when i spawned < 1294436597 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, where's my thumb drive? < 1294436604 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that sort of stuff happens. < 1294436614 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually not right next to spawn though < 1294436617 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, why do you ask *us* that? < 1294436679 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, dungeon without a chest :( < 1294436713 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sure it isn't hidden under the sand? < 1294436727 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, cleared away all the sand to the cobble walls? < 1294436731 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1294436735 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :underneath the remaining sand is just stone < 1294436735 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does gravel have a use? < 1294436748 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm. < 1294436750 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, weird < 1294436762 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, certainly. For draining. < 1294436775 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how? < 1294436780 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much same use as sand (except you can't smelt it for anything) < 1294436800 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides that he will torrent as much Red Dwarf as he can get his hands on.
< 1294436811 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, drop it in, it will sink down. Easy to remove using the usual torch trick (see wiki if you don't know it) < 1294436914 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, craftbook has "redstone ICs" too. Including stuff like light level detector, 3-bit prng, water sensor, and what not. Oh and you can make redstone controlled torches. And pumpkins. So you can make light switches :) < 1294436922 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of the prng. < 1294436935 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why pumpkins/torches aren't redstoned. < 1294436952 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, pikhq, one of the two of you please pick a torrent from http://torrentz.eu/search?f=red+Dwarf < 1294436969 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh and there are some ICs that require admin privs it seems. Such as "set time of day". I just combined a light detector and that to reset to day as soon as dusk comes. Waiting to see if it will work. < 1294437004 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: They all look like shitty xvid. < 1294437008 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Series 9 is not necessary here. < 1294437012 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, :( < 1294437024 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Look for the DVD ISOs and transcode yourself. < 1294437041 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I think that might ... not be what he wants. But yeah, agreed :P < 1294437056 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yay, it resets to just-after-sunrise about 2 seconds after the light level starts to decrease during dusk. Hm that is actually kind of useful when building stuff outdoors. < 1294437067 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not looking for ultra-high quality here. < 1294437071 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Now turn monsters on. < 1294437074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Then download anything. < 1294437077 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hah :P < 1294437088 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: If it's not h.264 it's a waste of disk space. < 1294437109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, stop being a zealot. < 1294437113 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294437128 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, maybe. Maybe not. It has health of and worldedit on. So it is very much a creative testing server :P < 1294437130 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well, if there aren't any h.264 torrents which won't take until the heat death of the universe to download, I'm fine with wasting disk space. < 1294437142 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://torrentz.eu/e9e838463c428d6e169fdf9c4a0858bb5fc71cd4 < 1294437146 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Go for that. < 1294437153 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Just disable season 8 or whatever. < 1294437156 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not even being a zealot here! < 1294437165 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the biggest one with enough seeders to download well. < 1294437169 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Biggest as in file size. < 1294437170 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, naw, season 9 is the optional one. < 1294437180 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Er, right. < 1294437203 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Especially since most Xvid stuff is downscaled, and it's *all* at what would be, for h.264, an *insanely* high bitrate. < 1294437219 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1294437227 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, but sourcing ISOs is nearly impossible. < 1294437237 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also if you don't like the bridge in it you can make toggleable areas. Like you build something. Mark it with worldedit (craftbook and worldedit have the same author), then use a save area command. Then you can make redstone control this, replacing it with empty air or with another saved area. To switch between them. You can make quite fancy bridges that way. < 1294437239 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, OK, but turning my nose up at it is not something I'm going to do if there aren't any other options. < 1294437241 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, true. < 1294437255 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Also, you do realise that there isn't any season 9? < 1294437258 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though there were a lot of Red Dwarf PAL ISOs there... < 1294437279 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The Back to Earth three-parter is sometimes referred to as season 9 for god-knows-what-reason. < 1294437280 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ORLY? < 1294437281 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw none. < 1294437301 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah, that sets off my crap detectors so I'll leave it for now. < 1294437304 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sort by size, look at the torrents that are about 4 gig. < 1294437312 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Season 8 is also pretty bad, I gather. < 1294437328 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://torrentz.eu/searchS?q=red+dwarf < 1294437336 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The top one there is 2 gigs of xvid. < 1294437343 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, wait, 20 gigs. < 1294437363 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: OK, all I see is remastered ones and a few others. < 1294437376 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly no reliable way to get all of them without stupid remastering. OR even with. < 1294437387 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: Unseeded. < 1294437398 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I wasn't so twitchy about torrents. < 1294437398 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, fuck, they are unseeded. < 1294437407 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "Twitchy"? < 1294437410 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DO PEOPLE STILL USE XVID. IT SUCKS. < 1294437424 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I get paranoid if it doesn't start downloading quickly. < 1294437439 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Fill in trackers from torrentz. Forget it exists for five hours. Come back. < 1294437571 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it stupid to wish there was some kind of sequencing operator for torrents? < 1294437602 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's called pause and resume. < 1294437608 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be impossible to prioritise early files for download? < 1294437620 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You can do that manually. < 1294437630 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Go into properties, files, set the first ones to high priority. < 1294437634 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first few ones < 1294437647 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Opinion: Just about every block should react to a redstone current. Also, redstone currents should be able to move blocks somehow. < 1294437659 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be 90% of the way to letting you make a dig-o-matic bot. < 1294437696 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hah < 1294437702 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT A JOKE < 1294437737 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "Whats the texture pack" -- in reply to someone using the default texture pack. < 1294437748 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but presumably it'd need some finite resource to power it? < 1294437750 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I just imagined a blocky variant of one of those huge digging machines you see on pics sometimes. Forgot the name of it. Started with B iirc. < 1294437774 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Finite resource: sure, time. Minecart perpetual motion machines already exist anyway :P < 1294437776 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, you'd have to make a turbine generator and attach it to a furnace. < 1294437804 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I was about to say that you should be able to, like, burn a "deactivated redstone torch" item in a furnace, and it'd become a redstone source. < 1294437807 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not if boosters are fixed < 1294437811 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, then they don't < 1294437812 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With normal redstone torches being removed.) < 1294437826 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Boatloops then. < 1294437826 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea is BETTER < 1294437830 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh true < 1294437841 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't get yours, would you just put coal in a furnace and no items? < 1294437843 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes I agree your idea is better < 1294437845 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a turbine block which can be crafter. < 1294437848 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@146.88.113.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294437850 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crafter < 1294437851 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snow on top of a pumpkin :D < 1294437851 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1294437856 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crafted < 1294437861 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic, hello < 1294437862 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened to http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net ? Has it moved? < 1294437868 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, quite common < 1294437870 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But there's no fluid involved. >_> < 1294437873 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay gold < 1294437876 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: it is, as always, at esolangs.org; voxelperfect expired < 1294437894 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You can s/deactivated redstone torch/anything/ in my idea. < 1294437895 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you people haven't spelunked much have ya < 1294437899 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You then have some kind of pipe-based thing, and a heat exchanger item. < 1294437901 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: gold is useless < 1294437902 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the caves near cube are unlooked-at < 1294437902 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a few links on the esolang wiki to voxelperfect addresses. < 1294437907 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, nice < 1294437909 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's the point < 1294437910 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run pipes from furnace to turbine. < 1294437912 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The point is that furnacing an item would make the furnace act as a redstone torch. < 1294437919 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put heat exchanger in furnace. < 1294437923 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Light furnace. < 1294437924 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With redstone torches being removed. < 1294437952 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Ideally, there'd be some way to "push" blocks into furnaces with some kind of machine, so the miner could power itself :) (if it found those blocks) < 1294437961 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, removing them would be a PITA. You could no longer make inverters. Or any logic. < 1294437969 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Why not? < 1294437972 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, but this way you can also use hydroelectric power. Although water flow would have to be made finite or somesuch. < 1294437975 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Presumably you'd just fuel up a stack of redstone torches and it'd use them. < 1294437985 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, inverters rely on redstone torches. < 1294437990 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird, exposed stone outside (a lot of it). < 1294437994 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As do all logic gates. < 1294437996 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well you called your a source. That means it always generate, no? < 1294438000 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Meh, you can easily build a constant flow. < 1294438003 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, your idea is good too. < 1294438003 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, unlike redstone torches < 1294438004 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just route the furnace-torch to two places. < 1294438015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It acts exactly like a redstone torch when burning. < 1294438020 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, furnaces mesh nicely with my uranium idea. < 1294438026 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: YES. < 1294438029 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how would you place it on the side of a block then? < 1294438037 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuclear-powered autominers! < 1294438043 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because that is what makes logic work < 1294438054 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Dunno yet. < 1294438059 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: 1 uranium burns to produce 64 toxic wastes. < 1294438077 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but it burns for 20 real-time days. < 1294438089 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No. :p The point is that it takes ages to smelt. < 1294438098 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So given enough coal it'd run forever. < 1294438104 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of. < 1294438109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Toxic wastes in a furnace make it corrode, or something, so you have to pick them up, but if you hold them for too long you start losing health gradually. < 1294438111 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have to dump them. < 1294438120 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they solidify water into, I dunno, obsidian. < 1294438129 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make glass decay, trees to die. Etc. < 1294438130 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The solution? < 1294438134 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, throwing it into lava, of course. < 1294438141 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't thinking of having uranium burnable by itself, FWIW. < 1294438146 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Make grass decay, < 1294438152 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Should uranium be the smelted item or the fuel? < 1294438173 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd smelt uranium ore into uranium blocks, both of which would cause gradual and persistent health damage. < 1294438177 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you plan on writing a mod to do this? < 1294438182 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Fuck no. < 1294438188 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fantasising, like Sgeo but more awesome. < 1294438204 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you craft the blocks into a core by surrounding them with iron, and use that as a fuel. < 1294438207 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, less awesome. I think Phantom_Hoover's suggestion was a lot better < 1294438217 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: um his and mine suggestions are working off each others < 1294438224 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*my < 1294438227 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well the turbine one I meant < 1294438231 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a core is exhausted, you get nuclear waste. < 1294438239 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: whatever < 1294438240 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I approve. < 1294438276 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So, what do things do when hit by a current. < 1294438301 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Ooh. Maybe lanterns _are_ a good idea. < 1294438307 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Torches expire, and lanterns need a current to run. < 1294438314 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So you'd end up mining to keep your house's main generator running. < 1294438318 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yep. < 1294438345 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1294438367 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The autominer would presumably be crafted. < 1294438378 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No no no, I was meaning constructing your own. < 1294438398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: As in, logic gates for... logic, and using the advanced circuitry's interactions with blocks to actually move a mining-vehicle along a track. < 1294438406 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, this would be huge. < 1294438428 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What role does redstone play here? < 1294438438 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it still act as the primary current carrier? < 1294438463 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Presumably. < 1294438488 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Maybe we should call it something else, considering it'd probably end up totally different. < 1294438490 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Bluestone? < 1294438497 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, this would be an extremely fun thing to add. < 1294438514 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, a more elegant method than redstone wiring would be necessary. < 1294438522 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Obviously minecarts would interact with bluestone. Ooh, I know. < 1294438544 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: If you put a bluestone current into a minecart track, it pushes any cart on it forward at X speed. < 1294438565 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would wiring work? < 1294438567 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So you can make a booster-style system by having a generator, and just having it follow the track, occasionally splitting into "further along the track" and "rightwards to boost the track". < 1294438574 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: COMPLICATEDLY, I don't wanna think about wiring :P < 1294438584 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I tell if a file exists in Haskell ? < 1294438594 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about you make a wire-carrying block. < 1294438604 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION found doesFileExist ...
< 1294438619 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right-clicking with bluestone lets you run more cables through. < 1294438623 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: < 1294438624 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:16 elliott: @hoogle FilePath -> IO Bool < 1294438624 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:16 lambdabot: System.Directory doesDirectoryExist :: FilePath -> IO Bool < 1294438625 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:16 lambdabot: System.Directory doesFileExist :: FilePath -> IO Bool < 1294438627 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:16 lambdabot: System.Console.Editline.Readline readHistory :: FilePath -> IO Bool < 1294438630 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: MAYBE, DO NOT WANT TO THINK, LEAST FUN PART OF THIS < 1294438651 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1294438681 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: @hoogle is your friend :-) < 1294438731 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always feel misanthropically bitter when I get download rates a tenth of my seeding rates on a torrent. < 1294438746 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ME TOO < 1294438750 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*TOO. < 1294438750 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1294438797 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You lay some bluestone on the top of some obsidian, and then on the right of it. Catch: The right of it is immersed in lava. < 1294438805 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Please tell me this works and you can send currents to lava to do awesome things. < 1294438839 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well... < 1294438854 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice to have proper water and lava manipulation. < 1294438881 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Maybe the lava should travel backwards as fire along the circuit :D < 1294438895 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, naaa. < 1294438896 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would let you hook up an automated-burner; just flick a switch and burn whatever's on the other end. < 1294438900 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OH FINE. < 1294438907 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it damage the player, though. < 1294438924 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And make water conductive, because chemistry is boring. < 1294438949 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm talking about when a current hits a block, though (think how TNT behaves now). < 1294438953 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOOOOOPS < 1294438955 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously a current hitting a lava block should do SOMETHING fun. < 1294438970 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, set fire to it? < 1294438996 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Lava blocks are sort of already fire. < 1294439000 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft-physicsy. < 1294439059 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: did you know your pit is just next to a huge cave system... only have to break a few blocks to get to your staircase, not telling you how i know tho < 1294439128 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294439168 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cobblestone burns SLOOOOOW < 1294439257 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I should point out that we can get pretty thorough pictures of underground areas with mcmap < 1294439267 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: cobblestone burns? < 1294439270 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Liberal destruction is not necessary. < 1294439272 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh smelts right < 1294439286 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1294439576 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if by that you mean i should be more careful, then yes, i certainly try to avoid stuff like this, i just didn't realize the cave went under the fucking mountain < 1294439596 0 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294439598 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah burns < 1294439656 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think smelting stone should produce obsidian. < 1294439685 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could only do it by lava bucket, and it'd take one whole bucket < 1294439689 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :burns 1000 min iirc < 1294439710 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was seconds, but anyway < 1294439719 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever < 1294439759 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros must have gotten pretty pissed, i keep timing out < 1294439850 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 1000s, yeah < 1294439856 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... forgot to take the stone out, and picked the stove < 1294439859 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294439886 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the coal, mined about a hundred of that stuff, now i have 20 something < 1294439902 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking hell < 1294439923 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, really? < 1294439929 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really what < 1294439936 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coal is so common the rest of us leave it alone. < 1294439952 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you need one coal like every 5 seconds < 1294439955 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when spelunking < 1294439961 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean i do < 1294439966 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to get some from Mt. Hoover or the ROU; my supplies are enough for me. < 1294439978 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i put a torch on every square < 1294439981 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes two < 1294440002 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway yeah, it's common, but i don't have a box full of it yet < 1294440009 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i just started mining < 1294440013 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: lame, i mine every block in a tunnel i go in, fill it with lava, then cover it with glass < 1294440019 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :best lighting system for spelunking imo < 1294440020 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have something like one stack there or what? < 1294440076 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a spare big box < 1294440119 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: did you know that if you destroy a chest without using a pick, just your hands, it keeps the items inside and you can store it in your inventory? < 1294440136 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so you can store like 36 chests with items in your inventory < 1294440138 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really useful < 1294440149 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? really? < 1294440167 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is very useful, if it's true < 1294440181 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yep < 1294440201 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i won't even need a base then < 1294440215 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: nomad :P < 1294440261 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what about a box, can you store a box full of stuff in a box? < 1294440274 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i could just carry a castle around then. < 1294440292 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"here come's oklopol with a bag full of a fucking 64x64x64 diamond castle" < 1294440295 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*comes < 1294440311 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mc is making me swear < 1294440329 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hmm i guess you could actually < 1294440333 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it's just breaking the box that has the items in < 1294440345 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but getting an item out of 10 nested boxes might be a bitch :D < 1294440391 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah like i'd ever actually *use* the stuff i'm carrying < 1294440511 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I've tested that in the past. < 1294440522 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me it works < 1294440523 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breaking a chest drops all items inside. < 1294440526 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU PH < 1294440529 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I EVEN ASKED YOU IN /MSG NOT TO TELL < 1294440531 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1294440535 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to keep that up for days < 1294440540 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuuuuuck youuuuu < 1294440546 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would've just tried after this tho < 1294440547 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said "DON'T TELL HIM" < 1294440550 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With no context. < 1294440557 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: A POX UPON YOU < 1294440562 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked here, and I didn't associate the two at all. < 1294440564 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was kinda obvious he was lying < 1294440571 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow < 1294440581 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were telling me not to tell David Braben he was a dick < 1294440649 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1294440825 0 :cheater99!~cheater@e181140136.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1294440863 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Wow, there are people who don't understand why people would not like InvEdit much. < 1294440905 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People tend not to be very tolerant of people who enjoy different forms of play to them. < 1294440945 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invedit = ability to put stuff in your inventory? < 1294440955 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Even I dislike InvEdit to a degree... i.e., I'm not going to think of much of a gigantic superstructure if it was built entirely with InvEdit. < 1294440959 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'d materials. < 1294440970 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: lets you put whatever you want in your inventory and change various random shit like getting infinite health, tool health, etc. < 1294440988 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but we have infinite player and tool health. < 1294440996 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least we have the former and want the latter. < 1294441013 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want bots < 1294441014 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yesyesyes, but we can't just say //giveme 5 diamond blocks and 1000 obsidian < 1294441019 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: AUTOMINER < 1294441045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that, i have no way to guess < 1294441064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you naming a game < 1294441070 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, things like that Enterprise would be impressive if they had been built by hand at all. < 1294441082 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even with inventory editing, < 1294441090 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Eh, sure. Still. < 1294441094 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, that's the whole point of Creative mode. < 1294441098 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OMG I MADE A HUGE CASTLE" "but didn't mine a block to make it"... meh. < 1294441109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: autominer is me and Phantom_Hoover's hypothetical machine built with bluestone < 1294441115 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where bluestone is a hypothetical circuit system far better than redstone < 1294441121 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294441128 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :powerful enough to build an automatic mining tool with that can even power itself (assuming it finds the right ore) < 1294441139 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would, however, be gigantic :D < 1294441154 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd probably want one central computer and underground wires leading to all the places you want to mine < 1294441160 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than making multiple ones < 1294441167 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : well it was kinda obvious he was lying <-- well, with all they've been speaking about notch being a lousy programmer... although such a cheat would probably be a high priority to fix. < 1294441167 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm not saying you can't build an identicle in mc < 1294441176 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that you can't make a nice one < 1294441209 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wut < 1294441241 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-222-39.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294441246 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, but i figured it was a multiplayer specific feature no one mentioned to me, because no one else actually needs boxes < 1294441259 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1294441259 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: identicle was defined in a conversation a few months ago here < 1294441266 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm hm i vaguely recall it < 1294441269 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.D < 1294441270 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294441280 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.12.01:13:29:43 elliott: let's talk about identicles instead < 1294441289 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.12.01:12:48:07 elliott, the principle is identicle. < 1294441291 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed that is the principle < 1294441293 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in this case, something that is able to destroy everything < 1294441296 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: few months ago = december < 1294441302 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ... felt like it was ages ago though, what < 1294441312 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah i don't really experience time quite as linearly as most people < 1294441320 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you could do that with bluestone kinda < 1294441329 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does bluestone do < 1294441334 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you know what redstone does? < 1294441334 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :redstone + movement? < 1294441337 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, but much more advanced < 1294441337 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow < 1294441345 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1294441347 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: basically, it involves redesigning 1/4th of the whole game :D < 1294441350 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'd be so much cooler < 1294441351 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what redstone does, but haven't really used it much < 1294441357 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i find it bleh < 1294441369 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could basically make a rabid auto-miner that fuels itself, except while normally you'd make it only work on a cave and only mine useful stuff < 1294441374 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make one that just eats everything < 1294441380 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and assuming it gets enough fuel to keep it going... < 1294441400 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won't without the recursive boxing < 1294441404 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1294441413 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won't get positive prob in the limit with fixed inv size < 1294441435 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it would just throw them into a lava pit < 1294441440 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or get rid of them some other way < 1294441471 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get rid of what < 1294441479 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the blocks it mines? < 1294441480 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what do you mean < 1294441491 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm actually < 1294441516 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the idea is basically: mine everything; stuff that can be used as fuel goes in the furnace-power-generator; everything else gets destroyed < 1294441519 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized fixed inventory size doesn't matter because you can just leave blocks in stacks or something, until you've proven you have enough later on or something < 1294441532 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually the whole world would just be, like, bluestone circuits < 1294441538 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or actually just bedrock with this hovering death-machine in the sky < 1294441543 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm < 1294441544 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it'd mine the blocks that it puts bluestone on eventually < 1294441548 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would cause it to fall < 1294441550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right you actually do need fuel < 1294441560 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah in this case there'd be no redstone torches < 1294441565 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then what i said earlier: eventually it'll stop < 1294441567 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to burn a certain item in a furnace and that'd generate current < 1294441572 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: sure, but the point is, < 1294441579 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: whenever it mines fuel, it uses it to fuel itself < 1294441580 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, < 1294441581 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ok, sometimes the info to the pascalites, release v, level 1.2. < 1294441591 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: and it'd have multiple redundant furnaces to keep it going < 1294441606 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: sure if you had a GIGANTIC area with no useful fuels... but then you could just double the initial furnaces and try again :> < 1294441607 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294441632 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can it build more furnaces or something? < 1294441635 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1294441645 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is, if it only has a fixed amount of storage for excess fuel < 1294441653 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the probability of stopping is 1 < 1294441656 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the world is finite, you recall. < 1294441660 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh true < 1294441666 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i suppose you are working in a hypothetical infinite universe :) < 1294441670 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1294441677 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematically more interesting < 1294441678 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it could build more furnaces, sure, if it got the materials < 1294441691 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise i could just say there's positive prob for the world being empty < 1294441694 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: and the probability of getting the requisite cobbles for building a furnace before it dies is, like, 1, according to the minecraft rng < 1294441723 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: note that this death machine would have to be VERY complicated and would probably take up more space than the alu or cpu :) < 1294441733 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since not only does it have to mine, but it has to plan its mining so that it leaves enough tracks for _it_ to go on < 1294441746 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if it can build arbitrarily large amounts of furnaces, maybe you can manage it, at least then it's not trivial that you can't. < 1294441749 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also it has to bring the materials back, decide what to do with them, build more furnaces, move them into place, dispose of waste from uranium fuel, etc. < 1294441780 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but that's just engineering ;) < 1294441793 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any monkey with a phd can do it < 1294441796 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, FWIW, nuclear bombs are the other use for uranium. < 1294441801 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: oh joy :D < 1294441841 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Craft uranium, dynamite and iron into a bomb, which is then detonatable by a bluestone charge. < 1294441841 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294441863 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to craft HER anium if you know what i mean < 1294441877 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the project gutenberg license is non-free :D < 1294441899 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: how big boom < 1294441940 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I suggest it requires one uranium, four dynamite, and four iron < 1294441952 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: uranium in middle, surrounded by dynamite, iron in the corners < 1294441954 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that's the precise design I had in mind. < 1294441957 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: actually iron is a bit out of place... < 1294441959 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: it's too common < 1294441962 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: may i suggest diamond? :D < 1294441979 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the point is that the uranium is the really rare bit. < 1294442003 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there would be *very* few reasons to detonate it unless in PvP SMP. < 1294442046 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Griefer's dream. Well, really dedicated mining griefer. < 1294442061 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I'm thinking of damage on the order of scouring all of the earth for kilometres around, and making vast areas unusable due to radiation. < 1294442071 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it can melt stone. < 1294442076 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294442077 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I suggest that smelting uranium ore produces only one uranium. < 1294442092 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: But counts as, say, 16 to 32 units of smelting. < 1294442095 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you need, e.g., more than one coal to do it. < 1294442123 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: OH I HAVE A WONDERFUL IDEA < 1294442123 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I fail to see the utility of that. < 1294442136 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: The utility is that smelting uranium becomes slower and more resource-using. < 1294442142 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: WONDERFUL IDEA: < 1294442149 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once you have any uranium ore, you'll have heaps of coal anyway. < 1294442151 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: When using uranium as a fuel for smelting, I said it produces 64 nuclear waste. < 1294442153 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT BETTER IDEA: < 1294442172 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: It produces, say, 512 nuclear waste. If it has 64 and wants to generate another one, the furnace *explodes*. < 1294442191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, all bluestone it's connected to catches fire, and an explosion is made. < 1294442193 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Small explosion, and irradiation. < 1294442197 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1294442198 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also fire. < 1294442198 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: That, of course, is the reactor meltdown. < 1294442206 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One TNT, not nuke. < 1294442223 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Maybe more than one TNT, reactor meltdowns are pretty nasty. < 1294442252 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, due to nuclear leakage, not due to explosive power. < 1294442264 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Oh, fine. You're no fun but okay. < 1294442289 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The irradiation is bad enough. < 1294442295 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Of course, you could "wrap" this up in a safe reactor, which uses BLUESTONE MAGIC to take out the nuclear waste and dispose of it safely. Or even, if you want a small design. < 1294442309 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you end up with an effectively unusable patch of lang. < 1294442310 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: just have one that detects when the thing becomes full of nuclear waste and takes out the uranium. < 1294442312 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*land < 1294442320 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Oo, er, slight issue. < 1294442352 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: 32 full of nuclear waste in smelting output. You take the uranium out. You put it back in. < 1294442355 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZOMG INFINITE URANIUM POWER < 1294442403 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, make the uranium inaccessible like coal and other normal fuels? < 1294442425 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Then how do you prevent meltdown if it fills with nuclear waste? Oh, duh, you destroy the furnace. < 1294442438 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or remove the waste? < 1294442443 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Or that, yes. < 1294442449 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: OK, so the simplest safe reactor would be a furnace hooked up to a circuit that detects when there's 64 waste, and destroys the furnace. < 1294442465 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although detecting when there's 64 waste would probably require a chest to do it in, at which point you might as well just use the disposal-version. < 1294442479 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Hmm, I feel like being able to destroy nuclear waste easily in lava is a bit of a cop out. < 1294442490 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1294442492 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: How about: Throwing nuclear waste into lava gradually irradiates it. When it fully radiates, it turns into obsidian. < 1294442498 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: No, this makes no sense, but who cares? < 1294442501 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds cool. < 1294442526 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MC doesn't *have* any mechanic to make anything impossible to dispose, really; < 1294442544 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: And then a self-sustaining circuit would then mine the obsidian, get more lava, put lava in the hole again, and throw the obsidian into the lava. < 1294442557 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: And no, but impossible to dispose is boring; this just makes it _annoying_ to dispose of in large amounts. < 1294442575 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: omg, I so want to have all of this in the game ... but the Java work would be immense, and Notch would break it every update. < 1294442589 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, erm, you can just throw things and leave them for 15 minutes. < 1294442619 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Thrown nuclear waste acts like placed nuclear waste. < 1294442625 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. gradually irradiates a large surrounding area. < 1294442642 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: And ideally it'd remember what chunks have thrown nuclear waste in, and record when it was thrown in the chunk file. < 1294442667 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, then just make a chamber deep underground and throw everything there. < 1294442678 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seal it when it's too irradiated to use. < 1294442683 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lather, rinse, repeat. < 1294442697 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: "Too irradiated to use"? < 1294442704 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I would imagine that radiation has infinite upwards extent. < 1294442727 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you reach a point where it kills you in 5 seconds. < 1294442749 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically throwing it in a pit doesn't help. < 1294442819 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just make it a block that cannot be dropped < 1294442824 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems more natural < 1294442831 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, but consider: < 1294442838 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yes, that's probably the best idea. < 1294442853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the point is you need to find a place for it, if you can just put 64 in a 1x1x1 hole, that's kinda lame < 1294442898 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is looking at himself on top of a dancing minecart
< 1294442938 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: :D i've done that before < 1294442953 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Consider... < 1294442986 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Also, idea: N-thick (3?) obsidian blocks all radiation. Dump nuclear waste by storing it in large chests surrounded by thick obsidian. Make creepy underground passageways with warning signs to there. NEVER VISIT EVER. < 1294442989 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Making it undroppable is a bit silly. < 1294443007 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: "This place is not a place of honour", etc. < 1294443008 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That last idea is the best one. < 1294443021 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Have you read that paper or a summary of it of any kind? It's awesome.) < 1294443023 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you read that stuff too? < 1294443027 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1294443039 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294443041 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you find out about it from TV Tropes? < 1294443044 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, jwz. < 1294443047 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :('s livejournal.) < 1294443065 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Idea: Dropping nuclear waste starts irradiating the area around you EXTREMELY rapidly. < 1294443073 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Makes no sense? Absolutely. Will stop anyone dropping it? Absolutely. < 1294443088 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: why is it silly? < 1294443110 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: imagine an object in your pocket you can't throw out < 1294443113 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure mc isn't "realistic" < 1294443115 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can < 1294443115 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not being able to throw something? < 1294443118 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense < 1294443120 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: orly < 1294443145 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes really. < 1294443150 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, it just makes the whole idea pointlessly impractical. < 1294443157 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what then < 1294443182 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: then maybe you could have less then 64 of it, and you can't just carry it around in huge quantities, or you'll start getting damage at some point < 1294443182 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other idea: iron chests which block radiation enough to make it practical to store uranium. < 1294443186 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*than < 1294443186 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: WRT those nuclear warnings, I have a feeling that future idiotic explorers might see it as "ha ha, this primitive culture thought they could keep us away from their treasure by making up some 'death-ium'!" < 1294443199 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see how elliott < 1294443204 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, maybe it's best that such recklessness has its consequences demonstrated in the early days of a society. < 1294443208 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s chest idea makes it wait he explained < 1294443208 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: don't see how what < 1294443212 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you die if you drop it < 1294443220 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's even sillier < 1294443230 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Gold blocks make best sense as shielding, followed by much larger amounts of iron.) < 1294443244 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Just make gold chests. < 1294443248 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gold would become actually useful. < 1294443260 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Obsidian would actually be pretty useless IRL, since it's mainly silicon.) < 1294443264 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes! < 1294443265 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I do think that you should be able to hold on to uranium for a few in-game days without starting to feel the radiation. < 1294443269 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you need to handle it. < 1294443283 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, indeed. < 1294443295 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It causes slow, tenuous damage, though. < 1294443295 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: OTOH, gold chests should probably decay if given tons of time. < 1294443307 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get radiation bubbles which start popping every few hours < 1294443315 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you can't just eat some pork and get better. < 1294443319 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc if you're holding 64... < 1294443319 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I do think that obsidian should block it, 'cuz obsidian is basically made out of magic in Minecraft. < 1294443324 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: But only thick obsidian. < 1294443331 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: And it must have *no holes*. < 1294443334 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any holes --> radiation gets out. < 1294443356 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obsidian-coated gold chests is what you do every real-world month to dispose of your current pile-up of waste. < 1294443361 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Far underground. < 1294443366 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You do NOT want to break that obsidian.) < 1294443387 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Oh, and perhaps you need to leave enough space for the chest to burst. < 1294443402 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. if you store 64 obsidian in a gold chest, you need 63 free blocks surrounded by obsidian around the chest. < 1294443411 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that when the chest decays and the waste bursts out, it doesn't escape. < 1294443444 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense. < 1294443470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Aaaand this is why it's sad that an awesome programmer didn't think of MC before Notch did. < 1294443482 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead he's deciding on release dates and getting a documentary filmed. < 1294443484 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1294443569 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a chance of us getting a decent game in the same vein any time soon? < 1294443601 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Clearly that must be Heavy Hoover FUN Industries' second product after ASTEROIDS II: NEWTONIAN BOOGALOO. < 1294443609 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Hoover Heavy FUN Industries' < 1294443612 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So heavy in FUN1 < 1294443614 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*FUN! < 1294443678 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: NO? < 1294443693 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly. < 1294443705 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And any projects that might actually come to fruition? < 1294443714 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: :P < 1294443722 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: oklopol's game will probably be decent if impossible. < 1294443734 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to play.) < 1294443740 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol has a game? < 1294443740 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out how I could make it read the log file, almost. I could do like: tex example > example.fot and then read that file in using TeX. But it won't work unless file contains \message{} command to force it to wake up otherwise it won't read past a certain point. < 1294443757 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: It's like Minecraft except 2D and it has no textures and creatures are super-deadly and everything is random and he came up with it before MC < 1294443802 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1294443804 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i came up with this particular one tons after mc, i just hadn't heard about mc < 1294443809 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Also, oklopol HAS made games before, albeit impossible-to-play ones. < 1294443809 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as Asteroids II. < 1294443811 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: same thing really < 1294443815 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: independent invention < 1294443820 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: What about it. < 1294443823 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol seems to come up with the best game ideas. < 1294443826 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now mine has also all the few good ideas of mc < 1294443839 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, oklopol also invented Asteroids II unintentionally. < 1294443856 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's asteroids 2? < 1294443858 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a lot of game too but probably nothing like that. < 1294443862 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it that game of mine < 1294443871 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, remember that polygon gravitational thing you mentioned? < 1294443875 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1294443881 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Asteroids II is the game slowly crawling its way outside of the 2D Newtonian physics simulation. < 1294443885 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*out of the < 1294443886 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're growing that out of that thing of yours? < 1294443887 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1294443892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorta guessed < 1294443949 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: http://vjn.fi/index.php?g=0 oklo's games plus some other stuff < 1294443952 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mc type game of mine will mostly be about coding bots, you can't really survive otherwise < 1294443971 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: are the .exes python-compiled < 1294443974 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are they not written in py < 1294443983 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you're not supposed to let your player die) < 1294443990 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm actually i'm considering using c# < 1294443995 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i mean the games you've made < 1294443998 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since someone taught me to make pixels in it.. < 1294444007 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ and non-compiled python < 1294444015 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Why do you have to use C# if just C should work? < 1294444024 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to make a pixel in c < 1294444035 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, C is the worst language in the world < 1294444042 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather use brainfuck < 1294444051 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well who wouldn't, but i'd rather use c++ < 1294444061 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, C is a nice enough language. < 1294444062 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: putpixel(screen, x, y, colour) < 1294444064 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: allegro ^ < 1294444066 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Why you don't know how? And what is so bad with C? I prefer Enhanced CWEB to make a C program. < 1294444067 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for putting a pixel < 1294444071 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just abused horribly. < 1294444077 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although _putpixel() is faster < 1294444082 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have to decide what colour depth you want < 1294444086 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't know how to make a pixel because no one told me how one is drawn < 1294444096 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: putpixel(screen, x, y, colour) < 1294444097 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/ allegro < 1294444098 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, STOP MENTIONING YOUR GODDAMN _EXTENSION_ TO A PREEXISTING PROGRAM SOMEONE ELSE WROTE. < 1294444104 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOONE ELSE WILL _EVER_ USE IT < 1294444106 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEAL WITH IT < 1294444108 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: fully: putpixel(screen, x, y, makecol(r, g, b)) < 1294444109 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294444113 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: It depends what system you are using for screen drawing. < 1294444122 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so now you gotta use C! also it'll be faster :p < 1294444126 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, it might be different SDL with Allegro, for example. < 1294444126 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but so can i just open a text editor, write that inside mine and compile? < 1294444128 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have a better chance of running on linux < 1294444128 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1294444129 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main < 1294444142 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much mc maybe. < 1294444147 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you have to put allegro_init(); first and then like a few lines to tell it what size screen you want < 1294444152 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: plus tell it that you, like, want a keyboard < 1294444154 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but after that < 1294444156 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much, yep < 1294444161 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :allegro is very simple as these things go < 1294444190 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer to use SDL, but you can use Allegro if you prefer. < 1294444197 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://alleg.sourceforge.net/docs/how_to_make_a_pong_game.en.html Pong in Allegro, obviously you can ignore all the stupid image/sprite/mouse stuff < 1294444198 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that does sound nice enough. but the pathfinding algos i have are rather complicated, and would probably be faster in c# than me-written c < 1294444209 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: erm i find that doubtful < 1294444213 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: unless you're like a mega leet c# coder < 1294444226 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since ~pretty much the same algorithm can be done in C for all such algorithms < 1294444236 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and C has the advantage of not having all the vm baggage and also of having well-tuned compilers < 1294444241 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Is there a problem with C that you cannot do #try #catch that operating at *compile time*? < 1294444247 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i certainly am not, but i don't understand anything about cache of anything, and i can't exactly just load chunks when player goes near like mc can < 1294444271 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well uh C# doesn't cache for you < 1294444276 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that much higher-level than C < 1294444278 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :objects don't solve caching :P < 1294444281 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so you're gonna simulate an infinite world every frame? < 1294444282 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever < 1294444283 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the problem is C isn't very high level < 1294444290 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor is C# :D < 1294444293 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i find math too low level < 1294444294 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C# is just java with lambdas. < 1294444316 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays i prefer lack of communication. < 1294444336 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: write it in J < 1294444342 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: or oklotalk! write it in oklotalk < 1294444356 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, do you seriously not realise that you are just being annoying by constantly bringing up your own solutions to problems nobody has. < 1294444368 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no i'm not going to simulate an infinite world every frame, that would mean nth iteration takes Omega(n) times < 1294444369 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tim < 1294444370 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1294444383 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like C, but I think it should have a few more compile-time directives such as ones to catch compiler errors and warnings, and to tell the optimizer about various things that might even be wrong... < 1294444385 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm simulating a huge part of the world, preferably < 1294444386 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it would take O(infinity) time :D which is the same as O(0) < 1294444393 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: then C will help for the pure number-crunching speed < 1294444401 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: do blocks have any more state than what type of block they are? < 1294444426 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: c# is much higher-level, but i guess if i dl'd nice data structures for c someone competent has made, it would just have uglier syntax. < 1294444434 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no gc < 1294444486 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no it wouldn't < 1294444490 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take infinity time < 1294444503 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :messages don't travel infinitely far < 1294444531 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: okay then < 1294444534 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:52 elliott: oklopol: do blocks have any more state than what type of block they are? < 1294444551 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: blocks can be programmed arbitrarily, and different blocks have different "components" that determine what they can actually physically do < 1294444570 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arbitrarily, although depends on block how much programming it allows, most blocks are pretty stupid < 1294444586 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so you can create a new block the behaves pretty much exactly how you like by programming? < 1294444587 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: while playing? < 1294444590 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l0lz < 1294444603 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1294444609 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1294444622 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i said, most blocks will not be all that useful < 1294444636 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: right, the issue there is that your world update gets a whole lot slower < 1294444636 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Why do you think they are nobody problems? < 1294444645 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say they have an empty list of components < 1294444656 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's turned from basically an advanced, big cellular automaton with wider effects into running millions of programs per frame :D < 1294444666 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's just optimized away unless you start madly programming blocks. < 1294444681 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ok, so there are basically "predefined blocks", and "programmed blocks"? < 1294444685 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the former are optimisations of the latter < 1294444715 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. conceptual purity in an impure way. < 1294444728 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because true purity is a bit out of reach < 1294444732 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1294444737 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: how many predefined blocks, 256, 16 thousand, or way more? < 1294444739 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever, hypothetically < 1294444745 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :block types that is < 1294444781 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blocks stop executing far enough from the player, probably. the pure reason being then you need to keep your player block near