< 1292630435 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1292630536 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back, sort of < 1292630583 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ddarius wonders if there is a #not-not-math channel. < 1292630583 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ddarius: constructive or classical? < 1292630586 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : augustss: Well clearly it would be a place to stick all those non-classical mathematicians. < 1292630590 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan-logread: ^ < 1292630613 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, know what, I detected another change < 1292630621 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: huh? < 1292630638 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, someone wasted one stone + one glass on changing a window from ** to 2 vertical glass instead < 1292630649 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, this is beyond logic < 1292630663 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1292630685 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, indeed! < 1292630740 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, see /msg too < 1292630757 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a minute, brbing right now < 1292631115 0 :Leonidas_!~Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1292631121 0 :Leonidas_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Leonidas < 1292631585 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=99223 this is awesome < 1292631734 0 :dbc!~daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292632295 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292632415 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ide spac < 1292634235 0 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292634649 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What I'm thinking about for a build system: vaguely Make-backwards-compatible, but (1) ALLOW NON-TAB INDENTATION, (2) run recipes as full shell scripts, (3) make $... and $(...) and ${...} synonyms for {...}, where the code inside {}s is part of a pure, functional language; (3) strictly separate (with GNU make-style |) source files and dependencies; and (4) a huge library of fancy built-in rules and the like, e.g. the C rule would handle a < 1292634650 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :utomatic dependencies. < 1292634924 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1: Yes 2: Yes 3: Yes 4: Yes < 1292634954 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add "it supports spaces" and you have the best Make-ish thing. < 1292635016 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1292635035 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292635052 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://imgur.com/RtgyF.png < 1292635066 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I like this texture pack a lot. (also featured: Better Light, and Better Grass!) < 1292635071 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1292635071 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, can't open it on this computer *types into other* < 1292635075 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly it's hard to see the Better Grass. < 1292635100 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, better grass? < 1292635201 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292635254 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It makes continuous patches of grass cover the entire block. < 1292635256 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice effect. < 1292635947 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Also, you forgot my SECOND (3). < 1292636222 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 三: Fuck you. < 1292636223 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1292636522 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Captain Beefheart. < 1292636582 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*groan* < 1292636610 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Julian Assange has not been made *aware* of what the charges against him are. No wonder everyone's confused. We only have rumors of what the charges are. < 1292636629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect with *that* detail, no sane court will extradite. < 1292636637 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is to say, he should stay the fuck out of the US) < 1292636982 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, got the -3 error when placing a torch in a very very specific place < 1292636989 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, not when removing it though < 1292637005 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, 100% reproducible, out near 4000,4000 < 1292637201 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: In fact, my idea is pretty similar to OMake < 1292637209 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Which has ".DEFAULT: $(CProgram prog, foo bar baz)" < 1292637260 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: So, basically OMake but elliotised. < 1292637273 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1292637327 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: TWO < 1292637328 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOTHER < 1292637328 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKING < 1292637329 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TS < 1292637417 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry elliott, but I was talking to elliot here. < 1292637469 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1292638516 0 :church!~admin@d207-216-223-76.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1292638557 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :church: Alonzo! < 1292638561 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :church: It is the highest honour. < 1292638589 0 :church!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wetfish.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/leaking_by_humon-d34xwuj.jpg < 1292638598 0 :church!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello elliott. < 1292638624 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By Lambda, it's Church! < 1292638703 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a crazy theory, maybe church is not actually Alonzo Church. < 1292638711 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292638738 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hmm. Perhaps Alonzo Church of the Lambda Calculus is not immortal. < 1292638770 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GASP < 1292638772 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heathen! < 1292638837 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear, what have I done? < 1292638870 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1292638876 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/evaluations/iterations/ < 1292639395 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1292639654 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292639691 0 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292639962 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1292641169 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@209.59.220.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1292641916 0 :church!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1292641966 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d/win 23 < 1292642066 0 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292642953 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292644976 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "Minecraft is a hype created by TIGsource scammers." zomg! < 1292645060 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Quite a schizophrenic "apology" and stuff: http://www.codergames.com/news/games/minecraft/ < 1292645064 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :November 18th, 2010 < 1292645065 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft, a harmony and joy of creation! < 1292645065 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft proves that there's still hope for a human kind! < 1292645065 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :November 16th, 2010 < 1292645065 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft, more thoughts. < 1292645065 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have rushed a bit with the conclusion about Minecraft. < 1292645067 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :November 12th, 2010 < 1292645069 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole propaganda surrounding Minecraft is very fishy. < 1292645071 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing that stinks is TIGsource! < 1292645080 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was under a lot of pressure, I still am. Anti-communists in Serbia don't have social security, jobs or any ability to get a job as everything is highly controlled and is only there to leave the impression to other countries that its a normal country as well." < 1292645083 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, uh ... < 1292645138 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol: http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=6273.0 < 1292645191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"People are not stupid, they're capable of thinking on their own, they just need to free themselves from constant brainwashing, people just need to unplug, free their mind from the prison some very bad people (TIGsource and alike, illuminati, satanists, reptilians, luciferians, etc.) imposed onto them." < 1292645387 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amen < 1292645428 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliot.. what time do you have now? < 1292645497 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amen? < 1292645500 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me you're joking < 1292645510 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1292645530 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew < 1292645538 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: what time do you have now? i can't parse your sentence >_> < 1292645548 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :timezone < 1292645580 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1292645581 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gmt < 1292645662 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o'right.. so you're from..uk? (if i may ask) < 1292645683 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1292645706 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k ..*updating statistics* < 1292645737 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so y the hell you're awake? < 1292645739 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1292645773 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1292645882 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. you guys have a public minecraft server? < 1292645942 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you play? < 1292646043 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*last question so far ;) < 1292646098 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: we have a server, but it's private :P < 1292646109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not really an #esoteric server, it just happens that all but one of the people on it are in here < 1292646170 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from #irp: < 1292646170 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:19 < sbluen> finally, a language that can solve the undecidability problem, I think < 1292646174 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:20 < sbluen> that is, the halting problem < 1292646262 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: that's a rather terrible name :D < 1292646312 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: #irp is like our retarded twin brother we try to pretend doesn't exist :/ < 1292646324 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..i'd really like to join you.. let me know if you're interested in having some company then < 1292646325 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember setting it up when reddit invaded here :) < 1292646339 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: ineiros is the admin. being Finnish helps a lot, I gather < 1292646347 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although actually the Finns are in a minority now aren't they... < 1292646348 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k thx < 1292646349 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no, exactly 50% < 1292646369 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: health is turned off so if you don't like that it's probably not worth it :) < 1292646456 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'm going to drag up you being an idiot! < 1292646458 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You're all wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. To quote the page: "write, in plain English, in polite command form, what you intend for your program to do." Brainfuck is NOT plain English in polite command form. So it's not valid IRP. And while you can request that somebody keep infinite memory in mind, they actually can't do that. So it may be that the language itself is Turing-complete but there is no TC implementation. --GregorR 17:37, 21 Aug 20 < 1292646458 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06 (UTC) < 1292646462 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: HAHA I'VE NEVER SAID ANYTHING STUPID < 1292646502 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhh, OK? < 1292646514 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see nothing of me being an idiot in that quote. < 1292646522 0 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292646545 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, http://sss.cs.purdue.edu/projects/dynjs/imgsrc/javascript_the_evil_parts.png makes up for it regardless. < 1292646613 0 :sbluen!~chatzilla@cpe-98-151-3-89.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292646622 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You claimed that "Please execute the brainfuck program 'blah blah blah'." wasn't valid IRP, because that somehow wasn't polite English. < 1292646636 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, it seems, your holiness, ",[.,]" just made this sentence not polite English. < 1292646637 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292646659 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I commend you for that publisher line though :P < 1292646784 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Please interpret the following Spanish: "Considere si la proporción de los idiomas es más o menos importante que el lenguaje de nivel superior." < 1292646799 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: elliott: Please interpret the following Spanish: "Considere si la proporción de los idiomas es más o menos importante que el lenguaje de nivel superior." < 1292646807 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: This is still an English statement. And a polite one at that. < 1292646821 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You clearly did not interpret the Spanish :P < 1292646824 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Admittedly the execution of that directive is beyond my grasp; but then, so is "Print out the decimal digits of Graham's number", which is definitely a valid IRP program. < 1292646844 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Just interpreted it and I'm fairly sure the proportions is irrelevant. < 1292646848 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English has quoting! Gasp! < 1292646871 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff < 1292646969 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Are you seriously saying that [[Please interpret the following Spanish: "Considere si la proporción de los idiomas es más o menos importante que el lenguaje de nivel superior."]] is not English? < 1292646977 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Are you seriously saying it is not polite? < 1292646987 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is /both/; it is a polite English command, and therefore a valid IRP program. < 1292647026 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mom is not polite English. < 1292647924 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Your face is not polite German. < 1292648612 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://sprunge.us/BUPQ < 1292648737 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Give me endless praise and wonderment for doing the obvious. < 1292648762 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: (cat is just like juxtaposing all the variables, except that it doesn't add pointless spaces when the variables are empty ... should probably be called catargs or something) < 1292648854 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an astonishing statistic! Imagine being < 1292648854 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :able to do a single file compile, out of 1000 < 1292648854 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :source files, in only 10 seconds, plus the time for < 1292648854 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compilation itself. < 1292648861 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--Recursive Make Considered Harmful < 1292648867 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MAN I CAN HARDLY WAIT, THANKS 1998! < 1292649038 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1292649143 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hang on a minute! On real-world projects with < 1292649143 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than 1000 files, it takes an awful lot longer < 1292649143 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :than 25 seconds for make to work out that it has < 1292649143 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing to do." < 1292649150 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Did you live in 1998? What was it like? :-P < 1292649172 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... oh come on, you're not THAT young ... < 1292649198 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But we are not using PDP11s any more. The < 1292649198 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :physical memory of modern computers exceeds < 1292649198 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10MB for small computers, and virtual memory < 1292649198 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :often exceeds 100MB." < 1292649208 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I was *three years old* when that paper was written. < 1292649225 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, ALIVE < 1292649242 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But I could hardly be said to have lived in the same 1998 as people who used make occupied :P < 1292649262 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe I was make-capable in 1998 < 1292649371 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1292649379 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I don't actually know how old you are exactly :P < 1292649395 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1292649450 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: BUT THANKFULLY GOOGLE DOES < 1292649453 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or at least is likely to.) < 1292649500 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: WHY DOES GOOGLE NOT KNOW HOW OLD YOU ARE < 1292649524 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ALREADY FORGOTTEN that I'm a stable causal loop? < 1292649530 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can Google not... know ... anything < 1292649544 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://www.thorn-lang.org/ Google thinks I care about this more than how old you are. < 1292649669 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Remind me to grep the logs to figure out when you started doing that grad school thang so I can extrapolate :P < 1292649674 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I can post it on Google and EVERYONE WILL KNOW < 1292649675 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR SCIENCE < 1292649733 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't know how old I was when I started grad school, how many years I spent in undergrad, how many years I spent at Intel, what year I started 1st grade ... < 1292649748 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Darn, right, I was assuming you entered grad school right after undergrad < 1292649752 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1292649758 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'll examine your nose to determine your age. Like tree rings < 1292649762 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This only works on jews) < 1292649772 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "The composite logo of the GNU and OSI logos was created by Gregor Richards." ;; please, please, please show this to rms. < 1292649783 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Video tape it. Then YouTube his heart attack. < 1292649785 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-D < 1292649800 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WHY GOD WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY" < 1292649910 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NOT EVEN YOUR MICROSOFT RESEARCH BIOGRAPHY HAS IT WHYYY < 1292649919 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Did you actually ever come into existence? < 1292649923 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have you just, like, always been there. < 1292649986 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Have you ALREADY FORGOTTEN that I'm a stable causal loop? < 1292649993 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I KNOW I KNOW < 1292649997 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Computer Science student, revered software developer, natural-born rally navigator: Gregor is a man who wears many different hats!]] < 1292650000 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me that was intentional. < 1292650011 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wtf? < 1292650019 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the only person who can Google-stalk someone and not find their birthdate :-P < 1292650025 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://twistyroads.net/trnt/entrylist.html; grep /your name/ < 1292650087 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite probably intentional :P < 1292650108 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very subtle since all two readers of that page wouldn't know the reference. < 1292650130 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: THREE NOW < 1292650164 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8ivkC_YJxk ;; Maybe you'll offhandedly mention your birthdate in this < 1292650195 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Congratulations, you bastard; you've singlehandedly destroyed my faith in Google. < 1292650202 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what to believe any more. < 1292650205 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WIN FIVE INTERNETS < 1292650230 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: BTW, how old are you again? < 1292650250 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damnit elliott, I HAVE NO AGE. I am infinitely old but do not age, I am a stable causal loop! < 1292650256 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: THAT ALMOST WORKED < 1292650276 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Anyway, I am not sure stable is the right word to describe you :P < 1292650285 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHHHH SNAPPPPP < 1292650379 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What hint could I give that would be insufficient to guess too much, but could help potentially ... < 1292650491 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "I accept friend requests on Facebook from people who upload videos of stapling their own face." < 1292650500 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assuming you have your birthdate on Facebook :P) < 1292650532 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only day, not year. < 1292650578 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Do you post updates saying "AWESOME, I'm # NOW!!!!"? < 1292650580 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, that would suffice. < 1292650602 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care about birthdays. < 1292650685 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Grepping the logs for you mentioning numbers between 17 and 30: INDEED YOU DON'T < 1292650699 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 17 < 1292650700 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 < 1292650700 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19 < 1292650701 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 < 1292650701 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21 < 1292650702 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 < 1292650702 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 < 1292650704 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 < 1292650706 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 < 1292650708 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :26 < 1292650710 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 < 1292650712 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :28 < 1292650716 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: CURSES, HOW CAN I EVER GET AROUND THIS ATTACK?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! < 1292650716 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :29 < 1292650718 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 < 1292650738 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's hilarious is that I've never made even the slightest attempt to hide that information :P < 1292650777 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.03.06:22:17:20 Whereas the target audience for your site is in the 0.25-to-0.75 turnips intelligence range. < 1292650806 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:17:45 It is time to put those Haitian jigaboos in their place! No matter how many times the civilized world donates money, opens schools, rebuilds their nation, and holds their little monkey paws, the damn niggers can never get it right. They never will! The same goes for New Orleans! Cancun in Mexico suffered few fatalities after their major hurricane, and the rebuilding is already completed. Wha < 1292650806 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:17:45 t have the niggers in New Orleans done? If you are sick of this, join Chimpout Forum! http://www.chimpout.com/forum We welcome all races except for NIGGGGGGGERS! We are not white supremacists, just negro inferiorists! http://www.chimpout.com/forum < 1292650808 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The site in question :P < 1292650817 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how one pronounces "NIGGGGGGGERS". < 1292650880 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's "nig" -- at which point you allow a little bit of water to flow to the top of your mouth and vibrate it while continuing the g sound -- and then "ers". < 1292650913 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:18:46 i once knew a nigger named esoteric < 1292650913 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:19:02 he had a sister named shaquanda < 1292650919 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only he had taken my advice < 1292650921 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to, his fortune, not squander < 1292650922 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT RHYMES < 1292650992 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:20:23 Average Human IQ 100 Average Nigger IQ 80 Of course there are negroes that have normal IQs, but you are much more likely to run into a feral ape < 1292650992 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:20:28 than a magic negro < 1292650992 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:20:42 many who don't see this have been isolated from the bulk of the nigger population < 1292650992 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:20:49 and just know a few magic ones in the workplace < 1292650994 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Can you feel the magic < 1292651072 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell I know only magic ones. And no feral apes, modulo the fact that by any reasonable definition, all humans not in captivity are feral apes. < 1292651104 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Obviously the intelligent negroes commit themselves to a life of BDSM. < 1292651108 0 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d93294fe.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1292651108 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously. < 1292651126 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently grepping for "25" has some pretty interesting effects X-D < 1292651126 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1292651137 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wat < 1292651139 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean timestamps? < 1292651155 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I assumed you got that by grepping for Gregor.*25 < 1292651159 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292651161 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's me ... then a (0.)25 < 1292651165 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Not just 25 :P < 1292651170 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, all the numbers. < 1292651181 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I don't know exactly how you grepped X-P < 1292651182 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The numbers are the integers between 17 and 30, inclusively.) < 1292651193 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is how the numbers are defined and only shit it's almost 6 am.) < 1292651238 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lesse, what's the minimum age I could be? Is it even reasonable that I could have been 17 while on #esoteric ...? < 1292651265 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well, I came in here when I was 11 or so... and started being active when I was 12. < 1292651276 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly you're more than the difference older than me, probably :P < 1292651280 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Between 12 and 17. < 1292651281 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1292651288 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But really, I get no meaningful results even with that range, so *shrug* < 1292651289 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't mean just being here at that age at all < 1292651298 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What then? < 1292651298 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I mean that, given the knowledge you have, could I have possibly been here at 17? < 1292651303 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Well, not really. < 1292651314 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Are you <, =, or > 25? :P < 1292651319 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1292651362 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Are you < 25? < 1292651384 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think for some reason I'm required to actually answer these questions? :P < 1292651405 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes. < 1292651406 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Are you < 25? < 1292651415 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sadly, 1998 was a full 4 years before I would use make for the first time. < 1292651431 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Man, I interpreted make as a regular word there SO CONFUSED < 1292651441 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, I've been Unixing for a long time. < 1292651450 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(relative to my life span) < 1292651453 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Apparently The Google is insufficient to guess my age! Although I don't really care THAT MUCH about keeping my age secret, the fact that it's not out there is so fascinating I kinda have to! < 1292651464 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Has anyone really been far even make as decided to use even go want to do look more like? < 1292651554 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: then again people were mostly pinging me by wrongfully tab-completing the other guy whose nick began with Gr :) < 1292651555 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gracenotes: It's okay, we've killed him off and now his corpse lines our walls and floor. You can come back now. < 1292651557 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: PLAY DEAD < 1292651580 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1292651600 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meows < 1292651608 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. There's a lunar eclipse this winter solstice. < 1292651636 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: JUST JOKING YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE < 1292651639 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GO DIE IN A FIRE < 1292651643 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(death and fire optional) < 1292651667 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1292651678 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A CURSE UPON YOU AND YOUR DESCENDANTS FOR A THOUSAND GENERATIONS < 1292651687 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: We already have a curse! A SEXY curse! < 1292651865 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: as a linguist, what are your opinions on version control theory? < 1292651878 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: uh? < 1292651889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yep! < 1292651958 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: well that's the best blank stare i've ever seen communicated over IRC < 1292651961 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i dont see how it relates < 1292651998 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1292652002 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: well it's vaguely to do with streams of things. that have semantic meanings! < 1292652003 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and merging them. < 1292652009 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORTA LIKE LANGUAGES AMIRITE < 1292652012 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1292652014 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: YES < 1292652021 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not.. really < 1292652094 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no but if darcs can claim to be based on quantum physics, i want scapegoat to be based on linguistics < 1292652097 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so start bullshitting, faggot < 1292652103 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1292652105 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1292652107 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darcs? < 1292652115 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: THESE WORDS ARE OF NO CONCERN TO YOU < 1292652155 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1292652199 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292652264 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fantastic Mr. Fox is turning out good < 1292655416 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are you Gracenotes < 1292655499 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what to say. You ask a very deep question. < 1292655591 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been here before though < 1292655610 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1292655757 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1292656038 0 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329388.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1292659199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1292659200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1292659448 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292661266 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: all that's in my logs is you joining and pinging out a lot. how long ago was it? < 1292661288 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, was it in november? i didn't idle here in november because it was too distracting < 1292661744 0 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1292661768 0 :wth!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1292662177 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-46-37.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1292662257 0 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1292662298 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1292662300 0 :wth!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1292662501 0 :sbluen!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014] < 1292663646 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Later < 1292663823 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-7-25.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1292664844 0 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1292664873 0 :wth!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1292664997 0 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1292665021 0 :wth!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1292665659 0 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1292665699 0 :wth!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1292666183 0 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1292666198 0 :wth!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1292666624 0 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1292666728 0 :wth!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1292667219 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc12-sgyl29-2-0-cust185.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292668886 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1292670069 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292671759 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1292672423 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You might consider using the github issue trucker for mcmap bugs, then I can keep 'em straight(tm). Anyway, for the -3 error I think I'm going to need to dump the whole packet to file and see what's up with it. < 1292672968 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm < 1292673100 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to me to be very simple; no complicated milestone/class/priority/component/whatever forms to fill in, just a single text-box. < 1292673182 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though it's not like I'm going to forget the -3 thing, just in general it could be easier to report there, since I don't really logread #esoteric, sometimes even not when I'm highlighted.) < 1292673260 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What -3 thing, BTW? < 1292673403 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes chunk update packets cause the zlib uncompress() function to fail with error -3. ("Z_DATA_ERROR if the input data was corrupted or incomplete.") < 1292673444 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you feed the wrong data to zlib... < 1292673446 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's rather strange, since the compressed-data length is given in the packet before the actual data, and I read exactly that many bytes. < 1292673458 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course there can be some sort of bug. < 1292673469 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that it seems to happen only in very specific circumstances. < 1292673500 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What circumstances? < 1292673509 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better ask Vorpal that. < 1292673531 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far there's been some sort of a complicated waterfall-related scenario, and now placing a torch in a very specific place. < 1292673639 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither of which should make the sent-out chunk-updates any different than plain old regular chunk-updates, though. < 1292673705 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sort of buffer overrun? < 1292673786 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, this is Java... < 1292674009 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1292674050 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, actually it is within 2-3 blocks of that place < 1292674060 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, his code is C though < 1292674067 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(minecraft is however java) < 1292674215 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I guess I could try valgrind < 1292674224 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(atm I'm not using mcmap) < 1292674411 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION discovers that the Reader monad is the same as the (->) monad.
< 1292674414 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mind is blown. < 1292674568 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one well-known zlib valgrind error that always happens. < 1292674577 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least on my installation the default suppression files don't cover it. < 1292674582 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's safe, though. < 1292674633 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than that mcmap was valgrind-safe (error-wise; there might be leaks; it's not very careful code) at some point. < 1292674646 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, valgrind suppressions. One thing one would likely want to suppress: All memory leak messages from allocations done inside global ctors. < 1292674832 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1292674860 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :==16424== definitely lost: 116 bytes in 4 blocks < 1292674860 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :==16424== indirectly lost: 436 bytes in 7 blocks < 1292674860 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :==16424== possibly lost: 14,719,745 bytes in 721 blocks < 1292674860 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :==16424== still reachable: 1,458,563 bytes in 1,774 blocks < 1292674874 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But just the one conditional-uninitialised zlib thing. < 1292674958 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, could you stop mcmap from crashing when something goes wrong in the map-side code? < 1292674988 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that it just becomes a pipe between the server and client? < 1292675014 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I *could* just ignore broken chunk-updates, it's just that I'd rather fix the bugs and this forces me to do it. < 1292675047 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, you can even probably do that by changing the die-macro to do some sort of thread-suicide instead of exit(1). < 1292675113 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to try that, change the exit(1) in main.c:do_die into g_thread_exit(NULL). < 1292675182 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you'll probably end up running out of memory at some point because it'll keep pushing "interesting" packets into the "hey, look at these" queue, and there's then no-one at the other end to take care of them. < 1292675227 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :File an issue in github if you want me to add a "try to fail so that we just disable the map and keep forwarding packets" feature. :p < 1292675436 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Shouldn't be that hard. Just a status flag to see if the packet-inspection thread is running, single if (not) continue; in the packet-forwarding loop, and that's about it.) < 1292675472 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292681818 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh... Why does white flour exist? Really, why the step to white flour done? < 1292682185 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :White rice is quite understandable, but what about white wheat flour? < 1292683904 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1292684364 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:13:31 * Phantom_Hoover discovers that the Reader monad is the same as the (->) monad. < 1292684367 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:13:34 My mind is blown. < 1292684388 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know Writer is the same as a (,) monad? < 1292684400 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not one usually defined though) < 1292684412 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits for Phantom_Hoover's head to explode
< 1292684550 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:16:58 Heh... Why does white flour exist? Really, why the step to white flour done? < 1292684555 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting question < 1292684664 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not only that, afaiu bread is cheaper the more white flour it contains < 1292684678 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which might somehow explain the why, i guess < 1292684807 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour
< 1292684913 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The reason for the limited shelf life is the fatty acids of the germ, which react from the moment they are exposed to oxygen. This occurs when grain is milled; the fatty acids oxidize and flour starts to become rancid. Depending on climate and grain quality, this process takes six to nine months. In the late 19th century, this process was too short for an industrial production and distribution cycle. As vitamins, micro nutrients and amino acids were co < 1292684949 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely or relatively unknown in the late 19th century, removing the germ was a brilliant solution." < 1292684986 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: looks like the likely culprit there... < 1292685043 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then some article has a pitch about "health benefits" of whole grain products. HRT, anyone? < 1292685082 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well _today_ we have less problem handling whole grain than in the 19th century i assume < 1292685104 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might still be more expensive to do so < 1292685120 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of a problem < 1292685146 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, in epidemiological studies, HRT seemed benefical, but in actual controlled studies, it proved to actually be deadly. < 1292685155 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: ouch < 1292685157 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hormone Replacement Therapy) < 1292685189 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait you aren't implying whole grain is actually unhealthy? < 1292685217 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is trying not to eat too fine bread as his stomach gets upset by it
< 1292685224 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1292685296 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's worthwhile to note a confusing error: the USDA's Nutrient Data Laboratory (http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/) —and many websites that derive their data from it—show vitamin E as absent in crude wheat germ, this is an error." < 1292685332 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And besides, bread isn't a good source of anything besides carbohyrate. The protein in it is junk, it isn't good source of micronutrients (and that's before it screws up absorption of some micronutrients). < 1292685429 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fineli gives 22.1mg per 100g of vitamin E in wheat germ (this is wheat germ, not whole grain wheat!) < 1292685481 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fresly ground wheat flour gives 0.4mg per 100g... < 1292685513 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...brilliant solution. Without the germ, flour cannot become rancid. Degermed flour became standard. Degermation started in densely populated areas and took approximately one generation to reach the countryside." < 1292685519 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some other whole wheat product gives 1.0mg per 100g. < 1292685578 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, no valgrind error when I reproduced the bug with water. Can't with torch since the the memory usage of the huge surface stretching to somewhere around 4000,4100 + valgrind overhead makes the machine swap trash < 1292685579 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And besides, those fibers in bread aren't good either... < 1292685609 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Flour dust suspended in air is explosive -- as is any mixture of a finely powdered flammable substance with air[12] (see flour bomb). Some devastating and fatal explosions have occurred at flour mills, including an explosion in 1878 at the Washburn "A" Mill in Minneapolis, the largest flour mill in the United States at the time." < 1292685665 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, there's the gluten sensitivity / celiac disease issue. Celiac disease is real nasty to diagnose (to say nothing about other gluten sensitivity). < 1292685728 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1292685804 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bleached flour is a white flour treated with flour bleaching agents to whiten it (freshly milled flour is yellowish) and to give it more gluten-producing potential." < 1292685824 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Adherer effect" and "I don't give a shit effect" can really mess up results of epidemiological studies... < 1292685836 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: wait what < 1292685915 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, the helathines/unhealthiness of something isn't the only factor, also healthiness/unhealthiness of other factors it is associated with will skew the results. < 1292685999 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense < 1292686020 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find people with high consumption of say, whole grain bread and you likely run into health freaks. Find people with high consumption of butter and you likely run into those that don't give a shit about effects of their diet... < 1292686054 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or also low-carbers in the latter group, but those tend to be rare compared to the rest). < 1292686084 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: you seem to be defining me as a health freak, that just doesn't seem _right_ :D < 1292686108 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i avoid both whole bread and usually butter) < 1292686109 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likely... Not that they are... < 1292686120 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fine bread < 1292686174 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no fan of butter personally (because I don't have that much use for it)... < 1292686270 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think milkfat is pretty much the only kind of real fat with independent track record... < 1292686329 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well until recently i'd been avoiding milk products for a while as i think they upset my stomach a bit < 1292686370 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With milk products, it tends to be that the more fat, the less stomach upset... < 1292686393 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, there are other factors as well... < 1292686477 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good sign to tell your eating habits are real bad: You get hungry again and "need" a snack few hours after eating... < 1292686525 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are always other factors, with that and this adherer effect you speak of i wonder if we have any _chance_ of finding out what things are really healthy or not (and not just food, but everything in our environment) < 1292686545 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there is just too much noise to be able to extract most of the signal < 1292686634 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there's other stuff as well. One of the largest metastudies on saturated fat concluded (paraphrased): There is no link between saturated fat intake and heart disease, but because of publication bias, we probably overestimated the dangers of saturated fat... < 1292686673 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. saturated fat being neutral is likely overestimate of dangers... < 1292686732 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: i had this idea in my head that it should be obligatory to register health studies somewhere _before_ they are done, so that negative results cannot be completely lost due to publication bias < 1292686762 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the way it is done with clinical trials. < 1292686795 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1292686874 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did real nasty things with efforts to make statins seem effective... < 1292686937 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good :D < 1292686948 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the system is better than i thought, then < 1292686950 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW: Graph with total mortality vs. cholesterol will express better than words how much current guidelines on TC have to do with reality (none at all). < 1292686972 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TC? < 1292686978 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Total Cholesterol. < 1292687025 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The upper end of reference range is in FALLING edge of U curve! If you reach the bottom (of course, this is just correlations), your doctor will complain about your cholesterol... < 1292687036 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finishes his fish and macaroni
< 1292687090 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and FFS, Sugar is not a saturated fat... < 1292687165 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ability to public health persons and nutrion researchers to confuse diffrent macronutrients is incredible... < 1292687192 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sugar and saturated fat confusion is just the most common one. < 1292687286 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-9-134.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1292687534 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION guesses today's square root of minus garfield was eventually inevitable
< 1292687615 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(warning: not pretty) < 1292687647 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's not the first either < 1292688136 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1292688664 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-9-134.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1292688771 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1292688883 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:56:56 who are you Gracenotes < 1292688889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: someone who's been in here longer than you < 1292688910 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Ghost of Esolangs Past < 1292689552 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I left during that one period when we didn't discuss anything marginally related to esolangs < 1292689590 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: let us refer to that period, as "always" < 1292689604 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisely my dear ehird < 1292689607 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: right now hot topics are minecraft and scapegoat :-P < 1292689629 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, the countless hours I have wasted with minecraft < 1292689638 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :later we'll pass on to minegoats and spacecraft < 1292689643 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the countless seconds I have saved not looking up scapegoat < 1292689647 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*checks* < 1292689653 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: good luck with that < 1292689679 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: scapegoat is ais523's plasmaware version control system that I'm trying to upgrade to vapourware and, maybe, one day, solidware. < 1292689703 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : where is ais523? < 1292689728 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: erm, presumably doing things that don't involve #esoteric, right this second :P < 1292689754 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this vague impression he tends not to be here during weekends much < 1292689781 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, no kidding.. this is his wikipedia editing chart nowadays. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_user_ais523%27s_edit_times.png < 1292689812 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: he's pretty much left wikipedia, afaiu < 1292689821 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he de-sysopped himself < 1292689829 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: that graph is from 2007 < 1292689830 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah i don't think he has internet at home < 1292689839 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i vaguely recall that too < 1292689843 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. same principles < 1292689850 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare with e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_user_Gurch%27s_edit_times.png < 1292689859 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I haven't touched Wikipedia in a while either < 1292689877 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: well let's put it this way, the only times ais mentions wikipedia now are to try and explain why it's so terribly fucked up :) < 1292689889 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm sure i've seen him _some_ on weekends < 1292689890 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1292689915 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think he comes in when he'sat other people's houses < 1292689917 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*he's at < 1292689925 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1292689939 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wat, wikimedia has raised 10M dollars < 1292689953 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some effective campaign this has been < 1292689956 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some effective campaign this has been < 1292689974 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er.. sorry.. reaching over keyboard for falling mouse < 1292689991 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ais523 shows no activity since november < 1292690023 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah those ads are beyond irritating < 1292690033 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gracenotes shows no activity since May < 1292690041 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and also the amount they need has been increasing suspiciously far more than wikipedia has been growing < 1292690050 0 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292690069 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I don't really want to donate with the such close ties to Wikia, which I abhor... < 1292690127 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they made a killing-ehirds-family wikia, didn't they < 1292690146 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1292690174 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: No... but they have continually fucked over many wikis, including some I know the founders of, in VERY sleazy ways. < 1292690193 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: For instance: registering [wikiname].com and .net and refusing to give them over; redirecting them to the Wikia wiki, saying it's to "protect their brand" or some shit. < 1292690227 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: And whenever a wiki wants to move, they like to remove all notices it has been removed and fork off the wiki into their own graveyard that people can't find the real wiki from. < 1292690239 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as a lot of censorship and hullabaloo over their utterly unreadable new skin... < 1292690271 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Anyway, even if I liked Wikia, it's still a blatant conflict of interest. < 1292690279 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... some wikis on there flourish, but wikis are supposed to be about the long tail... < 1292690305 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones with autonomy and room to grow are the ones that were there from near the beginning < 1292690322 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uncyclopedia, well, they probably have the most autonomy < 1292690355 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Quick! Can you tell that nethackwiki has been abandoned and moved at first glance? < 1292690368 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows how long that news post will be allowed to stay -- Wikia staff said they'd allow it for a certain time but then remove it. < 1292690370 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Seriously.) < 1292690384 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(old site) in title? < 1292690391 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Yeah, I don't think that will last... < 1292690398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and who looks at the title bar any more?) < 1292690409 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you're on slow internet and it loads first < 1292690420 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I dislike how minecraft on linux forgets custom key configs when you restart it. < 1292690434 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything they've said on issues like this makes perfect sense if you accept this: "The founders of a Wikia wiki do not own that wiki. The entire community of a Wikia wiki do not own that wiki. Wikia owns that wiki, and the entire community moving out and abandoning ship is immaterial to the Wikia wiki." < 1292690436 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R FOR INVENTORY, T FOR DROP < 1292690449 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is... rather /not/ what most people expect when signing up, I imagine < 1292690453 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: erm save in .nethackrc? < 1292690474 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...there really is a .nethackrc? heh. < 1292690487 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: This discussion is not good for my blood pressure < 1292690502 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: ... < 1292690506 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: you play nethack and don't have a nethackrc? < 1292690512 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: but what do you have boulders as??? < 1292690523 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't play nethack. I play minecraft. < 1292690530 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh MINECRAFT okay < 1292690531 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1292690537 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i misread < 1292690537 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1292690540 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to context < 1292690546 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: I don't think minecraft has custom key configs. < 1292690546 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it? < 1292690573 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does. until a few weeks ago it remembered them upon closing < 1292690583 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: oh yes, I remember, it does < 1292690588 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never changed them though < 1292690597 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r for inventory sounds nice < 1292690733 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the season that I'm getting dissertation/doctorate defense notices in the mail from my university CS department. < 1292690739 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in the email < 1292690748 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently receptions only follow *successful* defenses. funny that. < 1292691100 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: you should be on our mc server :| < 1292691125 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how busy tis < 1292691159 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: um ineiros fizzie nailor (just zis guy, you know?) Vorpal (alas) Phantom_Hoover Deewiant and me. < 1292691161 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very busy at all. < 1292691168 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly 0-3 people online :P < 1292691175 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: although health is turned off. you have been warned. < 1292691193 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and preparing for being on fire rather more than is strictly necessary is probably a good idea < 1292691236 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :health turned off? as in, there's no damage? < 1292691253 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: yep. it used to be that way, but notch decided it was a bug and fixed it, so we put it back. < 1292691254 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1292691269 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: let's put it this way, getting places is a /lot/ more convenient if you can just jump off tall buildings. < 1292691275 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I played extensively on a server before the health update < 1292691294 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the Temple of Doom's purifying lava bath didn't last nearly long enough to cleanse your body and soul with health on. < 1292691295 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jumping off superstructures etc. but despite no damage, my stomach still turns every time I do it < 1292691307 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: stay away from the Stairs then < 1292691310 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can hardly see anything underlava < 1292691313 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: (two stairs from max alt to near level 0) < 1292691322 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that doesn't matter; you swim up a glass tube < 1292691324 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: didn't say it wasn't fun though < 1292691347 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I set up a water elevator on my server, it worked despite buggy boat physics < 1292691349 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: anyway if you want in ask ineiros, he's the admin < 1292691357 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Vorpal has two boat elevators or so < 1292691363 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are rather easy to break < 1292691374 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :water ladders are much more fun < 1292691375 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for instance, here's one method: "press A or D while in the boat") < 1292691381 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: water ladders? how does that even work? < 1292691386 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay.. less fun, more useful < 1292691400 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. a bug in water physics probably < 1292691409 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lets you climb at 3x the speed of normal ladders < 1292691422 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds very useful. < 1292691423 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG I FOUND A PUMPKIN PATCH < 1292691435 0 :hagb4rd!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :hagb4rd|afk < 1292691439 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: our server is pre-halloween, so people go off on pumpkin expeditions all the time :P < 1292691457 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so people=Vorpal and all the time=occasionally < 1292691518 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i hate how tools regenerating is going to be fixed :( < 1292691519 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in SMP < 1292691550 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already is fixed < 1292691562 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..ain't it < 1292691564 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: no it isn't < 1292691569 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw, pick back up again, woohoo < 1292691582 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going to be fixed with server-side inventory (suggesting that the current form is *client-side* inventory: wow just wow) < 1292691584 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means you actually have to look for *resources* goldarn it < 1292691595 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, we'll just use hMod to put it back >:) < 1292691598 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: hey we have enough of that already < 1292691604 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you have to do anyway if you forget to drop it < 1292691607 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: but making diamond tools all the time is waay too expensive :P < 1292691610 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I have done many, many a time. even with diamonds. < 1292691619 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i've never done that < 1292691621 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see a brain doctor :P < 1292691642 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway yes ineiros is the man. < 1292691766 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had root on the box my previous server was on. I also had physical access to it. unfortunately, 2/3 disks failed on RAID.. 1, I think < 1292691794 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: our "box" is a computer in ineiros's home :P < 1292691807 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, exactly the same things happen when he torrents as you'd expect. < 1292691809 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're low-fi, man. < 1292691812 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :authentic. < 1292691817 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're recording minecraft on cassette. < 1292691838 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :groovy < 1292691865 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, seems I have AA off in MC. I tried forcing it on (it turned out the settings were not what I thought they were) and it causes rendering issues < 1292691877 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, white lines at the edges of flat textures < 1292691882 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i heard about that < 1292691884 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks :( < 1292691894 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I'm listening to My Chemical Romance. I feel like I'm 16 again. < 1292691912 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, actually I'm not surprised if it is using one image for several textures < 1292691926 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MAN IM WATCHING NOTCH DO THINGS ON HIS COMPUTER LIVE ITS LIKE HAVING A BABY < 1292691929 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does this even exist < 1292691942 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude everyone who plays minecraft hates you < 1292691943 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he always does ludum dare < 1292691945 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you even doing < 1292691971 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop doing whatever you're doing and fix the myriad bugs you bastard < 1292691977 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll punch you < 1292691993 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : OH MAN IM WATCHING NOTCH DO THINGS ON HIS COMPUTER LIVE ITS LIKE HAVING A BABY <-- ? < 1292692006 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://mojang.com/live/ WARNING TO SEE NOTCH'S AWESOMENESS IN ACTION REQUIRES MACROMED^&wADOBE FLASH < 1292692120 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the basic structure of SMP (Sustainable Minecraft Project) is done btw < 1292692132 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what remains is to flesh it out < 1292692144 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i, Metropolis, am going to come and civilise the fuck out of your people < 1292692147 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: expect smallpox. < 1292692153 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, :P < 1292692170 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I expect you are careful next to the non-windowed lava lighting systems < 1292692185 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which depends on on lava flowing down to lower alt < 1292692188 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: DAMMIT IF YOU WON'T ENTER CIVILISATION HOW CAN WE SHOW YOU THE DANGERS OF YOUR WAY OF LIFE < 1292692192 0 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1292692201 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, placing blocks in the wrong places could result in severe problems < 1292692221 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I use enternal-log-fire in a few places < 1292692222 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1292692224 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What else do I have? A sword, some gravel, a bucket of water… a bucket of water! The deadliest weapon of all!" --Tom Francis < 1292692228 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: *eternal < 1292692228 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eternal* < 1292692241 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, beat you to it (same second though) < 1292692241 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He has the saddest face, as the current drags him away from me and I quickly lay down a barrier in case he can overpower it. He can’t, he just thrashes armlessly as he stares miserably into my eyes, drifting slowly backwards." < 1292692258 0 :Gracenotes_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Gracenotes < 1292692261 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a creeper? < 1292692265 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1292692456 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I swear to god I will now write a Lisp interpreter in 150 to 200 lines of C code, including a reader. < 1292692465 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have monsters turned on right < 1292692471 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..killable monsters < 1292692541 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: well, not enemy mobs. :p < 1292692552 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd just be irritating, since they couldn't do anything < 1292692561 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't mind creepers < 1292692577 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.. you need monsters for real. they're something new in SMP I haven't played with before. < 1292692691 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: ask ineiros :P < 1292692706 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i think the creepers might make the way into the underground minecart system though. < 1292692710 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be. irritating. < 1292692713 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*their < 1292692720 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :torches torches everywhere < 1292692730 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: old mine gigantic old mine everywhere connected to the minecart syste < 1292692731 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1292692733 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*system < 1292692748 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also open-air exit/entries < 1292692754 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*exits < 1292692765 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. have security checkpoints. ;.; < 1292692784 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: it would be fun to have Creeper Wednesdays with monsters, pvp and health turned on or something < 1292692880 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the raw price of Minecraft times the number of sales = £6.76 million pounds. < 1292692886 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think PayPal deducts 20% or so. < 1292692905 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So £5.4 million or so. < 1292692910 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notch is one motherfucking rich bastard. < 1292693127 0 :jsaasch!~Johannes_@dslb-084-057-001-156.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1292693285 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you know the locations you scouted fort he cube? < 1292693287 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fort he < 1292693288 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fort he < 1292693290 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for the < 1292693293 0 :jsaasch!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1292693297 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fort he < 1292693302 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fort, he! < 1292693314 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1292693363 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I presume the only cobble in SMP will be from a factory. < 1292693552 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Luckily, I discover after three minutes of tactical standing still, this particular Creeper is too stupid to move." < 1292693895 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes or that which is excavated to make room for the rooms (no pun intended) < 1292693905 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, throwing it away would be kind of pointless < 1292693907 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's not sustainable, dude < 1292693912 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :build houses only in existing indents in hills < 1292693929 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that would leave a large above-ground footprint < 1292693940 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you prefer non-sustainability? < 1292693970 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it isn't non-sustainable, I used existing dirt for tree plantation (just moved it around, less than 5 blocks in all cases) < 1292693992 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it will be sustainable because it won't need to grow, thus it will be a fixed, finite cost < 1292694014 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's more damaging to hollow out the ground than to build small, perishable structures in indents of hills < 1292694018 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, since there will be capping to make the population sustainable < 1292694039 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you're going to kill people when they reach 21? :p < 1292694054 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no, I do it like China or something < 1292694063 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. emulating china. always a good idea < 1292694068 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: so forced abortions then < 1292694072 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite! < 1292694077 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you got sustainable coat hangers? < 1292694087 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but your suggestion reduces natural habitats for various threatened animals living in the ecosystem in indents of hills! < 1292694092 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how can you possibly support this < 1292694104 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't build doors and put animal food in the houses, duh < 1292694108 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :live in peace with the mobs < 1292694124 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, alas, that won't work, considering they need untainted nature < 1292694129 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: all you need to do is build a small box of wood with one side open < 1292694132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can leave the grass floor < 1292694140 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even open up the ceiling apart from one block border around < 1292694143 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to let the light in < 1292694149 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then just build sustainable things for living in the corners < 1292694167 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I specifically avoid existing caves btw to not taint the underground ecosystems < 1292694170 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: or, better: do it in the relative dark -- not so much that you'll need extra lighting, but nowhere that animals would be attracted to < 1292694189 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292694214 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1292694255 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1292694290 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what about animals allergic to wood then? < 1292694308 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think we jumped the shark) < 1292694326 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: they will stay away, since it's not in the light < 1292694336 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in fact, what you could do is put some lava lighting above an area just a bit away from the house < 1292694339 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just floating in the air < 1292694345 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way, animals will go there, not to your house < 1292694366 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and they will burn < 1292694368 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor them < 1292694375 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no? < 1292694377 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lava is in the air < 1292694403 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in fact, you could even shield them from the upsetting image of lava... put cobble stairs on the top and bottom < 1292694406 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they let light through) < 1292694422 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1292694439 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the aesthetics police would be after me then < 1292694490 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: find a natural flat space surrounded by mountains so that not many mobs make it in < 1292694504 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: build a fence around the space not occupied by animals, and say two to four doors around it < 1292694512 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1292694513 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: tada, you can build sustainably without worrying about the animals < 1292694652 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, reddit has officially denigrated to saying "lol, stop making excuses for wanting free shit!" to anyone who dares to question incredibly strong copyright in any way < 1292694659 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck this shit. < 1292694678 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I thought you liked reddit? < 1292694705 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you use "reddit" to describe every single user < 1292694770 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i like that too! < 1292694779 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: actually i'm just sick of the general quality of the comments. uh, and posts. < 1292694788 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I /did/, circa 2007 < 1292694805 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unsubscribe from shitty subreddits < 1292694829 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so which one do you like now? < 1292694846 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Name a non-shitty programming/CS-related subreddit. < 1292694855 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HASKELL < 1292694856 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/coding? < 1292694869 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOREVER < 1292695149 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG DIMINS < 1292695202 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: /r/coding is terrible. < 1292695221 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Its front page spans a whole half year. < 1292695238 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: And it misses a lot of the interesting stuff *actually in* /r/programming. < 1292695246 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, and Jon Harrop is on the case: < 1292695247 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Building a business with Haskell: Case Studies: Cryptol, HaLVM and Copilot" < 1292695249 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> < 1292695257 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Off-topic for /r/coding and you already posted it to /r/programming as well as /r/haskell." -- Jon "Colostomy Bag" Harrop < 1292695272 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pick quality xor quantity. < 1292695369 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: /r/programming = quality + crap; /r/coding = fewer quality + fewer crap + very slow < 1292695379 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ still has crap < 1292695385 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slashdot = Slashdot < 1292695390 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? = ??? < 1292695399 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hacker News = Hacker News < 1292695409 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/compsci = /r/compsci < 1292695431 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Hacker News = Quality + irritating startup asswipes + irritating startup asswipe posts < 1292695441 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but.. didn't you hear.. hacker news is turning into reddit???!?!?!?!?!?111!?!!1oneone < 1292695442 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If I could filter out the business bullshit from HN I'd read it exclusively.) < 1292695477 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: /r/compsci = Nice reading, perhaps, but not really the same thing as the others. < 1292695488 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of questions, not really many actual interesting posts. < 1292695521 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't have everything < 1292695541 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes I can, see: /r/programming circa 2007. < 1292695550 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't have everything permanently < 1292695577 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: There's no inherent reason why it went to shit. Anyway I would be fine if people just kept cloning /r/programming every 2 years or so. :p < 1292695585 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, see mc < 1292695610 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/coding is a clone; as you've noted it didn't take off < 1292695729 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I mean on something that isn't reddit. :p < 1292695744 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter where it is if it doesn't take off < 1292695788 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well, yes. < 1292695802 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I meant clone as in clone and take users. :p < 1292695820 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nontrivial. < 1292695836 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1292695838 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It was a hypothetical. < 1292695870 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the meanwhile, just read whatever and downvote and hide the crap < 1292695893 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292695935 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the amount bothers you too much, stick to low-traffic places < 1292695940 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But I have so much laze within me, dude. < 1292695941 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much laze. < 1292695955 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway "downvote and hide" is a rather more tedious policy with comments. :p < 1292695977 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1292696019 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Consider that bad comments often have good replies. < 1292696040 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not "often". Rarely. < 1292696099 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well, fine, but I can't stop myself reading them anyway. :p < 1292696107 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Latest github version should make the -3 bug non-fatal; if it hits, it should just freeze all map updates, but the packet-forwarding (and GUI stuff, but that's... less useful when it won't see the traffic) side should continue working. < 1292696114 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do need to actually fix the bug too, of course. < 1292696115 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are drawn to crap, don't complain that it exists. < 1292696145 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But I like complaining. < 1292696289 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, we know... < 1292696310 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. But evidently not Deewiant ... either that or he just wants to complain about my complaining, which I can support :P < 1292696342 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have a vain hope that you'd stop complaining < 1292696394 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Alack, alack, alack, my complaints are unstoppable. < 1292696548 0 :Eva_Earlong!~Eva@213.87.74.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1292696676 0 :Eva_Earlong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cheaters < 1292696863 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eva_Earlong: Cheaters? < 1292696874 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1292696942 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1292697104 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I neither *am* a cheater no do I *wear* cheaters. < 1292697107 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1292697200 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: let fib=(fix$(0:).(zipWith(+)=<<(1:)))!! < 1292697202 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Golf. < 1292697227 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Needs more () < 1292697228 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, see mc... < 1292697256 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Feel fee to donate it more ()s :P < 1292697272 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You need to wrap the whole thing in () < 1292697281 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: No you don't. < 1292697285 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes you do. < 1292697303 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so you do. < 1292697304 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Very nice... Hmm. < 1292697305 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT SCIENCE < 1292697314 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then < 1292697314 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fib=(!!)$fix$(0:).(zipWith(+)=<<(1:)) < 1292697315 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is shorter. < 1292697345 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think the partially applied !! works like that without more parens, in the first, though. < 1292697350 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, thus < 1292697351 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fib=(!!)$fix$(0:).(zipWith(+)=<<(1:)) < 1292697362 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW: This is both memoised and O(n). < 1292697363 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's just fine and shorter. < 1292697397 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to think of a shorter way of generating that list...
< 1292697412 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you made an attack in MC, that you then did not justify, care to justify it either there or here? < 1292697438 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fib=(!!)$fix((0:).scanl(+)1) < 1292697456 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: (1) You are incredibly paranoid to call that an "attack"; (2) you often call other people cheaters yet didn't blink an eye at discussing the precise implementation of a definite cheat method (one I have no problem with); I found this hypocrisy amusing. < 1292697462 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Nice. < 1292697473 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: fib=(!!)$fix$(0:).scanl(+)1 < 1292697475 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That was easy :P < 1292697480 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*grin* < 1292697481 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I don't remember calling other cheaters, and which method did you mean? < 1292697498 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I didn't really optimize it, but scanl anyway. :-P < 1292697502 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Clearly you have a terrible memory, as you've called me a cheater plenty a time; and I meant the teleportation. < 1292697509 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yeah, but needless parens! < 1292697538 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm, not sure I consider it cheating, if the server is badly coded enough to accept it < 1292697568 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coded badly enough* < 1292697574 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You called plenty of server-allowed things cheating before. < 1292697578 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. duplication bugs. < 1292697613 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The bracket-heavy version (fix((0:).scanl(+)1)!!) is the same length, FWIW. < 1292697629 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Pah! < 1292697632 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, I changed my mind about that < 1292697637 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't have written it with the prefix-(!!) in the first place. :-P < 1292697645 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I see. And when was this? Five minutes ago...? < 1292697647 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, once I learnt that it was due to crappy code < 1292697651 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a few days ago < 1292697655 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You definitely said that PH would be a cheater to use duplicated TNT yesterday. < 1292697657 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the day before. < 1292697691 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I said it would scare me, and I don't support that usage. But not cheating, rather it's making use of bugs < 1292697857 0 :Eva_Earlong!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1292698867 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Villa Las Estrellas. It's the only civilian settlement on Antartica. Not a research station, it's just a freaking town. < 1292699005 0 :Eva_Earlong!~Eva@213.87.74.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1292699256 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that antartica itself or a closeby island? < 1292699586 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antartica itself. < 1292699592 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I mean something like http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/274/0/6/realistic_minecraft_icon_by_triquetraclover-d2ztxky.png < 1292699596 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: except, less realistic dirt < 1292699599 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and without the stone < 1292699608 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i.e., something as "cartoony" (except not really) as the original, just HD... not realistic < 1292699622 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Ore would still look the same, just moar pixels. < 1292699631 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diamond blocks would still look as non-diamondy as they do, just moar pixels. < 1292699637 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hah < 1292699669 0 :Eva_Earlong!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1292699671 0 :Eva_Earlong!~Eva@213.87.74.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1292699676 0 :Eva_Earlong!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1292700331 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God. People do Let's Plays of Persona 3. < 1292700355 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Persona 3 is a ridiculously long JRPG. A speedy playthrough is 60 hours.) < 1292700420 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1292700430 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, it's in the series that *invented* the "gotta catch 'em all" mechanics of Pokemon) < 1292701089 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: context? < 1292701386 0 :church1!~admin@d207-216-223-76.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1292701409 0 :church!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1292701684 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, down? < 1292701701 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: God. People do Let's Plays of Persona 3. < 1292701701 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Persona 3 is a ridiculously long JRPG. A speedy playthrough is 60 hours.) < 1292701861 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... < 1292701888 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is currently 53 hours into a playthrough.
< 1292701898 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This may end up being a really speedy 100% run. < 1292702016 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1292702930 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : You definitely said that PH would be a cheater to use duplicated TNT yesterday. < 1292702936 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had duplicated TNT? < 1292702952 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made 1 block, and once I used it I had no duplicates. < 1292702959 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You didn't. < 1292702966 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal just decided that it was a posibility. < 1292702968 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*possibility. < 1292702972 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you've watched it for 53 hours? :p < 1292702978 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On what grounds? < 1292702979 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had singulated TNT, you cheater! < 1292703019 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You're a filthy cheater? < 1292703020 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, on the grounds that it could be done < 1292703031 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, not saying you had < 1292703043 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it was a misinterpretation of what elliott told me < 1292703074 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a murderer. hey, it could be done...
< 1292703114 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, I've *played* it for that long. < 1292703120 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah. < 1292703128 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you expect that to /not/ go way over Vorpal's head? :D < 1292703155 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i did not consider that issue. < 1292703203 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, of course it doesn't go over my head. It went below my feet < 1292703211 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(due to not watching irc) < 1292703378 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1292703484 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, this might take less time than I thought to finish. < 1292703487 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAME BREAKER GET! < 1292703500 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deliberate game breaker? or a glitch? < 1292703515 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defeat boss before it gets a turn! < 1292703534 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you, Odin! < 1292703603 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, this is not the infinity-plus-one sword, just an unintended consequence of game mechanics. < 1292703626 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? < 1292703644 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thunder Reign + Elec Amp + Elec Boost + max magic. < 1292703679 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voila, defeat everyone while seriously underleveled. < 1292703755 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The infinity-plus-one sword, BTW, just one-shots all but one enemy in the game... But you can only get it at the very end. Literally level 98. < 1292703833 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game? < 1292703860 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Persona 3 FES < 1292703877 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1292703878 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1292703907 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I highly recommend it, but note that it's long and hard unless you're very clever at abusing the game mechanics. < 1292703928 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a fan of Persona < 1292703940 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which game/games have you played, and for how long? < 1292704176 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: tetris, for five days (without breaks) < 1292704196 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the series. < 1292704201 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: -_-' < 1292704294 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION did a mean tetris back when
< 1292704377 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, waiting for it to connect < 1292704388 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also disconnected, have a typo to fix. < 1292704393 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Won't take long. < 1292704396 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, minecraft.net is down < 1292704402 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohh. < 1292704411 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could even have caused the invisibility. < 1292704415 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, maybe < 1292704418 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the skin-loading won't work. < 1292704422 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :502 bad gateway < 1292704424 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1292704434 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :up again partly < 1292704436 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and down < 1292704467 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes s/when/before ehird was born/
< 1292704478 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ehird/elliott/ < 1292704480 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, managed to connect now. < 1292704487 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I have not < 1292704506 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the longest I've played a game before in a row is probably 12 hours or so, for both Neverwinter Nights and Battle for Wesnoth < 1292704521 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1292704533 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which NWN? < 1292704544 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1292704557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 is a) not as good IMO, and b) doesn't run on Linux < 1292704562 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I played Tetris before they invented computers. < 1292704563 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1292704567 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abatris. < 1292704568 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably the 2002 one? < 1292704573 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLAYED ON A MOTHERFUCKIN' ABACUS < 1292704576 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, given that you mentioned 1 and 2, yes. < 1292704579 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: "No, the original AOL one!" < 1292704596 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's a reasonable question. < 1292704612 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Not really, since probably three people played the original AOL one :P < 1292704628 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like tens of thousands. < 1292704631 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You know why? It went out of business because of people copying floppies. < 1292704633 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sad tale. < 1292705130 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, down or just lagged? < 1292705135 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have made it go down. < 1292705139 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attempted to place a tile entity where there was no entity tile! < 1292705145 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mc said that < 1292705146 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly, my client did not want to download that many chunks. < 1292705148 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what did you do? < 1292705150 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ... < 1292705153 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I might have gone to somewhere. < 1292705157 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, where? < 1292705167 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be a place with 6 digits in its coordinates. < 1292705168 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if you crashed the server, fuck you idiot < 1292705188 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because I could have *easily* known that was going to crash the server, being omniscient. < 1292705200 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's just uberlagged. < 1292705208 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, when notch is involved it seems likely :P < 1292705247 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is it going to generate *every single chunk* between where I was and (100000,100000)? < 1292705252 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hope it's just a "restart the server" mess and not a "well, restore your world from backups" sort of a mess. < 1292705255 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes I think so < 1292705258 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if so, isn't that going to take up like ... gigabytes on the server? < 1292705266 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS WAS A BRILLIANT IDEA IF YOU ASK ME < 1292705269 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, .... < 1292705272 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no it wasn't < 1292705277 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also last backup was days ago < 1292705285 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what'd you do? < 1292705287 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how? < 1292705289 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going to be hung for like five weeks generating masses of terrain that will never be visited. :p < 1292705293 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: //goto 100000 100000 < 1292705302 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.o < 1292705305 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, iff it did that, then I propose you are banned < 1292705307 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a goto command? < 1292705308 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: We have teleportation in mcmap now, and it's KER-AAAZY < 1292705312 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, in mcmap < 1292705313 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You could've dropped a 0 from both of those numbers and still got to a new location. < 1292705318 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhh. < 1292705319 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, but. < 1292705328 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no but < 1292705329 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I could even *walk* to (4000,4000) from /that/. < 1292705333 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Which is just boring. < 1292705337 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1292705339 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you crazy bastard. < 1292705343 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: *genius < 1292705349 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: *pioneer < 1292705355 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bastard < 1292705355 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, s/bastard/idiotic bastard/ < 1292705357 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: *scientist (I was doing an experiment! Everyone died!) < 1292705365 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there seems to be something very wrong with this game < 1292705368 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bastard scientist! < 1292705371 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's causing such chasms in the community < 1292705377 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hah < 1292705380 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Vorpal is the only one who actually gets angry. < 1292705388 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, it's unthinkable that Vorpal and elliott not get along just fine. < 1292705396 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what's wrong with it is that it was coded by an idiot who had exactly one good idea and then messed it up royally. < 1292705403 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: To be fair, we are now on the level of blatantly exploiting major bugs :-P < 1292705409 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott, you crazy bastard. ais523: Vorpal is the only one who actually gets angry. < 1292705416 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you have Phantom_Hoover on /ignore? < 1292705419 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...lol < 1292705424 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You were being totally serious and really hate me now, right? < 1292705436 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What idea? < 1292705437 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I think he is annoyed with you < 1292705438 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I have lost my only true friend in this sad, cold, thankless world of desolation. < 1292705442 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think you think wrong. < 1292705449 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, time for single player < 1292705450 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think bunnies. < 1292705450 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I DETEST YOU AND I AM ALREADY ON A TRAIN TO HEXHAM TO BEAT YOU TO DEATH WITH A LAMP POST. < 1292705456 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: OH NO, YOU WERE RIGHT!! < 1292705458 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH GOD WHAT WILL I DO < 1292705460 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that < 1292705465 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it's called "Minecraft"/ < 1292705468 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd better jump out of the window before Phantom_Hoover can unleash his rage on me. < 1292705477 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WINDOWS WILL NOT SAVE YOU < 1292705480 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah fun playing with the CPU < 1292705491 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Welp, so anyway, until the server stops creating ~31G of maps (well, if uncompressed), scapegoat time! < 1292705499 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*finishes creating < 1292705499 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, but what part of it is the good idea < 1292705510 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, the bits that are actually *fun*. < 1292705519 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad ideas include: doing it in Java. < 1292705533 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, this doggerel battle is impossible. < 1292705533 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing it without knowing the slightest thing about geology. < 1292705548 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hey now, the geology ignorance is brilliant. < 1292705550 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, I think elliott just royally fucked up the server < 1292705550 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making it steadily more restricted. < 1292705559 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, with SCIENCE! < 1292705562 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's like Mark Doesn't Understand Animals: The Game: The Geology Edition. < 1292705584 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The science of "hmm, it works with n... BUT DOES IT WORK WITH 10^n?" < 1292705589 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I was wondering if you could point to any differences between it and, say, Infiniminer. < 1292705600 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, haven't played Infiniminer. < 1292705602 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I didn't try and go to 10^4000. :p < 1292705625 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, who cares about exact geology. I mean, it isn't like the 1x1x1 cubic block of stone unit is very realistic either < 1292705633 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the carrying capacity of a player < 1292705636 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I like how all the infiniminer google results point to Minecraft pages. < 1292705641 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the yield of a sheep < 1292705669 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Where "all" = "first two" < 1292705678 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yup. < 1292705700 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back up. < 1292705704 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: < 1292705724 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1292705765 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, nope < 1292705769 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, or down again < 1292705777 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Nope, up. < 1292705777 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it fails to log in < 1292705780 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not for me < 1292705786 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah now < 1292705795 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's very laggy for me. < 1292705853 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, have you played Infiniminer? < 1292705874 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1292705898 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH!!!! < 1292705900 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you'll need to "git pull". < 1292705902 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And re-make. < 1292705904 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you will dos the server < 1292705908 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, do you want that? < 1292706081 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's //goto 100000 100000 < 1292706085 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: FWIW, since the chat is lagging. < 1292706101 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, and you need to quit mcmap after it. < 1292706109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And reconnect *without* it. < 1292706111 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Okay? < 1292706130 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Also you MUST BE ABLE TO SEE THE SKY when doing it. < 1292706130 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting extremely bad lag, FWIW. < 1292706137 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Have you done it yet? < 1292706249 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it seems pretty much down anyway < 1292706258 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, scenery completely stopped loading for m < 1292706260 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me* < 1292706264 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover? < 1292706268 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, DAMN YOU < 1292706280 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you close mcmap afterwards...? < 1292706283 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it went down < 1292706284 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You made it seem like it was actually doable now the server had recovered! < 1292706287 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, as in, timed out < 1292706294 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It will probably be down for a lot shorter time this time. < 1292706296 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes he is an utter idiot < 1292706298 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it doesn't actually have to /do/ anything. < 1292706310 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, still this is definitely a DOS < 1292706321 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the teleportation send one packet or several? < 1292706324 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1292706324 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, we're all evil computer spy hackers stopping you get on with your legitimate business work. < 1292706327 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Thousands. < 1292706330 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: We sort of have teleportation now. < 1292706333 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it actually? < 1292706335 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1292706335 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: And it's SCIENTIFIC! < 1292706339 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've briefed him in query already. < 1292706346 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: So that could be the cause. < 1292706346 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Mr. President! Mr. President! < 1292706349 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE MASSES HAVE WEAPONS < 1292706351 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well, mcmap sends two packets. < 1292706358 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What the server does is of course anyone's guess. < 1292706358 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1292706376 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ineiros is officially sick of us :) < 1292706381 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, adding those wrap points would have been a good idea, would probably have meant that no one cared to do this hack < 1292706381 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1292706390 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least of elliott < 1292706392 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1292706393 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just drunk. < 1292706395 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1292706407 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1292706411 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The tiles are 1 m^3." --Notch, in a YouTube video titled "Cave game tech test", May 2009. < 1292706418 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently we're all 1.7 m tall, too. < 1292706420 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite being two blocks high, < 1292706421 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*high. < 1292706430 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, we are not fully 2 blocks high < 1292706434 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: I suggest you just leave the server alone and wait for it to recover :P < 1292706437 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm over 1.8m tall. < 1292706438 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, stand in a 2 m corridor < 1292706443 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, *in game* < 1292706446 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what he mant < 1292706447 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm 7m tall. < 1292706448 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meant* < 1292706458 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, he is drunk. Stop confusing him < 1292706459 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too. :P < 1292706464 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, you are just nasty now < 1292706464 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal apparently thinks drunk people = people who are beyond even stupidity. < 1292706465 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1292706466 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ^ < 1292706468 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE MEANT IN GAME DUH < 1292706471 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are just nasty now elliott < 1292706481 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Oh man, that's the worst insult I've ever heard from you. I'm going to kill myself. < 1292706486 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sob, I sob, I cry. < 1292706500 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so, will you keep porting to places that bring down the server for several minutes? < 1292706509 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, or will you learn from this mistake? < 1292706522 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I will if you keep whining about it. :p < 1292706532 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no one will like that you know. < 1292706542 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one else is whining at me constantly. < 1292706565 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only because you keep acting as if you did nothing wrong < 1292706605 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think you should hang me, like Saddam. < 1292706613 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Tis only fitting for a DOSing cybercrime-terrorist like I. < 1292706630 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In-game, of course. < 1292706648 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe with some string, and a hanging thing built out of fenceposts. < 1292706680 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, not sure how you would get the horizontal bar out < 1292706688 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Tis taking all my willpower to not find the most popular Alpha server and teleport to 2^60 there or so. < 1292706696 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, so it's actually taking very little willpower since I wouldn't be anonymous.) < 1292706711 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, would you actually do that if you was anonymous? < 1292706722 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if so, what sort of moral code do you have < 1292706759 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently downloading existing chunks is slower than generating them. < 1292706763 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who'da thunk it. < 1292706770 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it need to read from disk < 1292706773 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, or maybe it crashed < 1292706778 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back up. < 1292706789 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: COME! < 1292706795 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COME AND DELIGHT IN THE 100K WITH ME < 1292706821 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK! < 1292706843 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Don't use mcmap, you doofus. < 1292706855 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It can't handle >64k maps. < 1292706858 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Connect directly. < 1292706897 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1292707165 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, there? < 1292707236 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, tp request to ehird < 1292707248 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It booted my client ... < 1292707255 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no it didn't < 1292707262 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, that was weird. < 1292707264 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After I said your mothers are dingbats; perhaps it found me insulting. :p < 1292707268 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks his screenshots.
< 1292707271 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Straight after, actually; quite odd. < 1292707273 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the... < 1292707275 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I took some screenies too. < 1292707280 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...they're totally black. < 1292707285 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No -- wait -- this one has something more. < 1292707286 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got random noise. < 1292707299 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: THE FURY OF THE SOUND CAN NEVER BE MEASURED < 1292707305 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1292707317 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you know, you are a parody of yourself now < 1292707351 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, the contents of the screenshots folder is *changing*. < 1292707369 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a process with 100% CPU use and no command in top. < 1292707403 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O GOD IT'S SPREADING < 1292707455 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1292707457 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STAND TO ATTENTION. < 1292707462 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is your final warning. This is your only warning. < 1292707467 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gate is here, it ææ@³øđŊ¼Ø⅛Ŋ¼ < 1292707478 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the strike £ı¿°| it will©£ < 1292707486 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There will be no ŋ”ŋŋŋŋ < 1292707496 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it @ł³½€}→¸every w³½\}→ will disintł³]}½→ß}¶ßŧ“ < 1292707498 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1292707508 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly you could consider the off-topicness of your performance art, though? < 1292707544 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch Ouch OuchOuchOuch Ouch OuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuch Ouch OuchOuch OuchOuch Ouch Ouch Ouch Ouch OuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuch WARNING DANGER OUCHOUCHOUCHOUCH OUCH OUCHOUCH < 1292707587 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is not participating, I ought to point out. < 1292707593 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is just being weird. < 1292707604 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1292707605 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all < 1292707606 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's completely in-character for him. < 1292707607 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must < 1292707612 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292707749 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it crashed? < 1292707777 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, die: main.c:77 < 1292707778 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in a bus. Soon home. < 1292707782 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, client->server < 1292707789 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a SocketException < 1292707789 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That's just when it gets disconnected. < 1292707798 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, did you just hellify the server? < 1292707805 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD. < 1292707808 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, did you just... < 1292707816 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently < 1292707824 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ghasts, too! < 1292707826 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My, my! < 1292707837 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm disconnecting until it is fixed < 1292707838 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I did hear that sort of thing happens to naughty users. :p < 1292707847 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1292707849 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no intention to play until it is fixed < 1292707849 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THOU IN THY PEREFCT ATTACK < 1292707862 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do want to see how mcmap shows hellworld, though. < 1292707872 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The surface map at least will probably be broken. < 1292707875 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting drawn in by this, and I came up with the idea! < 1292707881 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1292707900 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer getting the normal world if it is all the same to you < 1292707907 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THOU IN THY TERROR DISTRACT < 1292707909 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, actually getting to my house < 1292707920 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US Senate has voted to repeal the ban on gay soldiers. < 1292707924 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THOU IN THIS WORLD SHALL DENY < 1292707926 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THOU IN THY PEREFCT ATTACK < 1292707930 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yaaaaay! < 1292707937 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, did it go through? < 1292707938 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In America, you kill yourself. In Soviet Russia, yourself kills YOU!!! < 1292707942 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :65-31. < 1292707967 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, solution to this: add those damn wraps. I don't see how else people will stop doing client side teleporting < 1292707990 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literally the only thing that could hold it up now is Obama not signing it. < 1292707992 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah right) < 1292707995 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, as in, it won't happen, whenever you like it or not, it would be all the same to me < 1292708008 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, yes, all of this is due to client-side teleports. < 1292708015 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE HAVE TAMPERED IN GOD'S DOMAIN < 1292708015 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, the hellworld certainly is < 1292708024 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM PLAY GOD < 1292708042 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, the hellworld is because ineiros joined in on me and elliott's little act. < 1292708056 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hellworld is because I asked for hell on earth. < 1292708059 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, londonmidland.com tries to set over 70 cookies < 1292708060 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is it doing? < 1292708061 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1292708062 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The weirdest thing: any //goto in the hellworld teleports you above the top-bedrock. < 1292708065 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out ineiros is awesome. < 1292708069 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right < 1292708075 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway, I want to reach my house < 1292708076 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't < 1292708076 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Then you'll just stand on a flat sheet of bedrock. < 1292708080 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously... < 1292708089 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: WHOOPS IT'S A GAME < 1292708116 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll patch mcmap to dump the world, then go around next time it is back to normal, and then start a saner server < 1292708132 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because I do like my house) < 1292708144 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BtW, I've not been connecting because I have a tonne of clay and I don't want to risk losing it to a ghast.) < 1292708150 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, could you not run two separate servers < 1292708159 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: You've upset him. < 1292708162 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll never hear the end ofi t now. < 1292708165 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Chest it. < 1292708167 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, Cthulhu almighty, it's a temporary joke! < 1292708173 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, also, cartographer (iirc you use that one) breaks if nether exists < 1292708181 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it can't handle the world later < 1292708188 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that bug was fixed < 1292708191 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Good chance to collect hellblocks, though. < 1292708198 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, not sure I care... < 1292708223 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hey, good point. < 1292708290 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: You didn't enable monsters. I think. < 1292708293 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gyaah, MC crashed when I tried to connect. < 1292708300 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: see /msg < 1292708304 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I certainly heard a ghast's giggle. < 1292708307 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ditto. < 1292708406 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this series of Futurama isn't going to watch itself... < 1292708410 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, I'd love to get in on the minecraft server :D mc nick = gracenotes < 1292708420 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's.. been a while.. :x < 1292708424 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: It's currently in Hell. < 1292708427 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Because of Cthulhu. < 1292708444 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? didn't notch fix the bug of merging hell and non-hell in SMP? < 1292708453 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, dunno. < 1292708458 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not on our server/ < 1292708474 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... keep server client updated :) server.. client.. yeah. < 1292708475 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Currently we're in hellworld. < 1292708482 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, at home now. Who would like to tell what's been happening? < 1292708487 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But long story short, elliott and I pretended we'd just found R'lyeh and ineiros played along. < 1292708503 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: see /msg < 1292708516 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the server at a particular IP? does it do mac/ip filtering? < 1292708529 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: It is a particular IP; no filtering; ask ineiros. < 1292708545 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ineiros < 1292708560 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how does the client side teleporting work? I'm heavily intoxicated so please explain in simple terms. :P < 1292708586 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: Go into sky, fly fly fly. < 1292708596 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: (Go into sky, say I'm there.) < 1292708602 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: see /msg < 1292708608 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :teleport ing.. with mods?? < 1292708645 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: No, with our fancy server proxy. < 1292708647 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It maps too. < 1292708656 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: I just explained this to you in the query, what more do you want?-) < 1292708666 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: /msgggg < 1292708667 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to read again. < 1292708674 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: Read mine too :P < 1292708754 0 :hagb4rd|afk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah inerios! ..would you mind if if i bug u for a second? query? < 1292708762 0 :hagb4rd|afk!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :hagb4rd < 1292708785 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: see /msg < 1292708794 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay taking shower now... be back later < 1292708821 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me when health is on. < 1292708949 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's play yakitori cricket. < 1292709105 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They talked about Pluto in the radio today. < 1292709126 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's on. < 1292709334 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, fuck you too < 1292709343 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: You are super-boring. < 1292709347 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros++ < 1292709376 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot, NullPointerException on connect < 1292709388 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: :'( < 1292709395 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: I'll cry for seven days and seven nights! < 1292709396 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, yay < 1292709410 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, you did the right thing when restoring < 1292709414 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why do you need to cry that much? < 1292709422 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, inventory lost < 1292709441 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Every posession is a stone to your leg. < 1292709472 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't meaning to possess it for long < 1292709479 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped the server gracefully, so it's probably a bug. < 1292709500 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What did you want the mud for, anyway? < 1292709539 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll find out soon enough < 1292709555 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ominous! < 1292709577 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, if you need say 5 blocks then I can give you some < 1292709584 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw ! < 1292709598 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 isn't quite enough < 1292709600 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, FWIW, what're your plans for once beta is released? < 1292709608 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The mud is for throwing at your eye so you can't see, at your ear so you can't hear, and at your paper so that you can't read. < 1292709622 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I suppose I could duplicate more and pretend that it's from a nether-expedition < 1292709622 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That certainly explained things. < 1292709634 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there soe information available? Are there some decisions to make? < 1292709637 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It punctuates the ominousness < 1292709643 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: There's :6666. < 1292709659 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But does inventory stick? < 1292709663 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it a different instance? < 1292709665 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, it is. < 1292709672 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Which is lame, and also means both are impossibly laggy. < 1292709682 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words, it's not an option < 1292709770 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, dunno! < 1292709772 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Neither is the main server right now. < 1292709785 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean? < 1292709834 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it more laggy for you now? < 1292709837 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have gotten a lot more things in TeXnicard to work now. < 1292709850 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: Impossibly, yes. < 1292709864 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason my connection is really laggy, but the load is just above one and the server has two cores. < 1292709867 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, completely bugged < 1292709868 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After I finished, we should make up the TeXnicard contest. < 1292709873 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll turn it off, then. < 1292709876 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, err, bogged* < 1292709880 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, not bugged < 1292709882 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo there < 1292709888 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: Turn off the non-hell server. < 1292709896 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, turn off the hell server < 1292709906 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turn off one half of both! < 1292709912 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Don't ask me how.) < 1292709917 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, since the hell one is useless without access to material from the normal world < 1292709933 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also ehird just go around destroying shelters < 1292709938 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there isn't much point to it < 1292709938 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: Turn off two thirds of both. < 1292709979 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Haha. < 1292709988 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I presume you don't carry best armour? if so, I could just pvp you out of existence. Problem solved in hell. < 1292709991 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then we'll be stuck with only two thirds of a server < 1292710003 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: Turn off both and watch Vorpal whine for a year. < 1292710004 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, turn off two thirds of each. < 1292710010 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY HOUSE! MY BEAUTIFUL HOUSE!!! < 1292710011 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, actually I wouldn't < 1292710024 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I would expect you to whine a lot more < 1292710032 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, why? < 1292710041 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turn off both of them (as well as the backup) and then just play cards instead. < 1292710043 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, since you whined about it NOT being hell all the time < 1292710057 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Only because it basically happened because you whined a lot. < 1292710069 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I did not. I complained. Not whined < 1292710097 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, as the one responsible for this madness I demand loads of netherware. < 1292710118 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whine and cheese < 1292710124 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hah < 1292710148 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, netherware all 'round! < 1292710154 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would start a server, except I have adsl. It just couldn't handle the uplink < 1292710157 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from Vorpal. < 1292710167 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He didn't want any Netherware and said "who cares" when Phantom_Hoover said he lost his Netherware. < 1292710170 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So clearly he doesn't want any of it. < 1292710175 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah it is pretty useless < 1292710184 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, slow sand and lightstone sure < 1292710191 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the netherstone... is useless basically < 1292710196 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :logs burn forever too < 1292710204 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want my 14 lightstone dust. :p < 1292710226 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine. Try the other server at zzo38computer.cjb.net:9876 and see if it is work. Probably it doesn't, but try anyways. < 1292710257 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what is it? < 1292710258 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I doubt that is a Minecraft server :P < 1292710261 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1292710263 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1292710281 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try connecting to it with Minecraft. Probably it doesn't work, but try anyways. < 1292710289 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, so what is running on it < 1292710302 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Why don't you try and figure out? < 1292710312 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the server working? < 1292710315 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Netherware, isn't that Novell's silly LAN thing? < 1292710316 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, oh is this a guessing game? why didn't you say < 1292710328 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, XD < 1292710334 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, doesn't seem to be working < 1292710340 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, well, nmap says port is open < 1292710345 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but connecting to it times out < 1292710348 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must be brokeded it. < 1292710361 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also minecraft.net was down a moment ago. < 1292710366 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be related to that too. < 1292710368 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try now. < 1292710369 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1292710370 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1292710373 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the user-account checkery. < 1292710389 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well minecraft.net is still down for me < 1292710390 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not, the server wasn't responding to any commands. < 1292710393 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1292710397 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, I got in < 1292710402 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of < 1292710404 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had to force-kill it. < 1292710408 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in a grey void < 1292710448 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, hm I think elliott teleported just before < 1292710450 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could explain it < 1292710462 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, down again < 1292710470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1292710472 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, I think he will keep doing it until you ban him < 1292710479 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you bought down the server again < 1292710481 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No teleporting. < 1292710484 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did? o_O < 1292710525 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you teleported I bet < 1292710543 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, it might be a good idea to add some wrap points however < 1292710558 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do that. < 1292710569 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, remember what happened last time we teleported. < 1292710571 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why is the lag so horrible? < 1292710592 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, who knows < 1292710610 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, approx 15 second < 1292710649 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, clearly it was tampering in Notch's domain. < 1292710664 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest you do something to (100000,100000). < 1292710672 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: You should make a new map. < 1292710701 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, not before limiting view to say, 5000 in each direction < 1292710706 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, no, before that. < 1292710711 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, since otherwise you will get a multi-gb image file < 1292710713 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to see it ALL. < 1292710717 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Er, not with png. < 1292710721 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do realise that a lot of white space compresses well? < 1292710734 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You do realise it's a silly Python script that creates the image. < 1292710742 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Verily. < 1292710751 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not going to be able to build that without having an uncompressed version around before packing. < 1292710755 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes but it will be unusable due to most programs loading it not handling it < 1292710777 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given the "code quality" (ahem), I wouldn't be too surprised that the 100k,100k location could possibly influence the server just by existing. < 1292710784 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes < 1292710793 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fast enough right now, so "no". < 1292710799 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4000 I *walked* to < 1292710825 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes, and now I, in my campaign of evil, not only went back in time and stopped music from ever existing, but CHEATED CRUELLY. < 1292710827 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? < 1292710839 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did think about doing an if (x > -5000 && x < 5000 && z > -5000 && z < 5000) test in the teleportation code, but that would've been oh-so-trivial to just comment out. < 1292710841 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys, what's a likely command for calculating the total amount of disk space my vps is allowing me from inside my container? < 1292710863 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, writing an email and asking them < 1292710894 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have the software for email composing and sending in my container at the moment. any other way? < 1292710895 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what is this "music" thing you're talking about? < 1292710900 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Who knows. < 1292710913 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: um, df? < 1292710921 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What container? < 1292710935 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's an old ubuntu i think < 1292710975 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :df has a possibility of working. < 1292710986 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not exactly guaranteed to. < 1292711006 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks elliott < 1292711030 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are you there/ < 1292711032 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1292711066 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, elliott now wants the server to delete the world and start afresh.... or at least remove pre-halloween bits. < 1292711074 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, just a heads-up as a warning < 1292711084 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I'm going to hack in to the server and force it to be regenerated. < 1292711087 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fear my cyberterrorism! < 1292711091 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ... did I say that? < 1292711095 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyperbole will never be the same again! < 1292711103 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: as a "warning" < 1292711105 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but you should not be allowed to convince the server alone < 1292711110 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what the warning is about < 1292711121 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure ineiros does everything I tell him to without questioning it. < 1292711124 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that right, ineiros? < 1292711132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe Vorpal thinks drunk people agree with the first person to suggest them anything.) < 1292711148 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well you manage to get him to do the hell mess < 1292711157 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually that was Phantom_Hoover too. < 1292711161 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it wasn't a "mess". < 1292711161 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given Vorpal's super-obnoxiously-boring attitude to life, I wouldn't be surprised. < 1292711164 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a mess because you were whining. < 1292711172 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wait, you convinced ineiros alone. < 1292711178 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I didn't actually listen to you guys, that was something I decided to do when the server started throwing errors. :) < 1292711183 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the most recent version of ImageMagick not available as a Ubuntu package? When I send a message to them, they wouldn't install it, because, they said, the Ubuntu package does not have the new version of ImageMagick. (If it is important, I could install it in my home directory, I guess.) < 1292711184 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, but I'd already suggested it to him months ago. < 1292711189 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was as surprised as everyone else when I connected and found myself in hell? < 1292711190 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1292711191 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was on my N900 at the time, didn't really read the backlog. < 1292711197 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, phew < 1292711200 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, his naïvety wrt booze 'n drugz is on record. < 1292711205 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/?/./ < 1292711236 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, wait, so you did that purely by coincidence? < 1292711253 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDZBgHBHQT8 < 1292711313 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes. Also drunken malice. :P < 1292711391 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you're all listening to that video at the moment. < 1292711432 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am. < 1292711435 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I am not listening to any video at the moment. < 1292711464 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well listen to that one! < 1292711479 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No. What is it anyways? < 1292711488 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The X-Files theme. < 1292711504 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect for any supernatural activities! < 1292711514 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it necessary to watch it too? Or just listen? < 1292711559 0 :j-invariant!~aaaa@unaffiliated/j-invariant JOIN :#esoteric < 1292711667 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway what? < 1292711678 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, *disconnect*. < 1292711681 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1292711686 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except you weren't around to see that part of it. < 1292711690 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right < 1292711706 0 :ineiros_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292711710 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1292711714 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi j-invariant < 1292711744 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway, we can blame elliott for this pretty much. < 1292711752 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly. < 1292711759 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite the fact that the server would be erroring anyway. < 1292711760 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, you mean the hellening? < 1292711765 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, no < 1292711781 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, or yes too, he did the porting causing errors < 1292711781 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1292711787 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, resulting in this < 1292711796 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, and then the blanket ban < 1292711807 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, what blanket ban? < 1292711810 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, if it had been used responsibly that would not have happened < 1292711815 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what "this" is, but, well. < 1292711820 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Insert standard channel is about esoteric programming languages not esoterica etc. disclaimer here. < 1292711827 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ehird claimed that the server added a blanked ban on porting < 1292711832 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are esoterica in the first place? < 1292711839 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Someone with "invariant" in his name is obviously programming-related already. < 1292711845 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of any software MML->MOD conversion, or MML->OGG conversion? < 1292711852 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-invariant You sure? < 1292711853 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, could just be mathematical. < 1292711860 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which MML? < 1292711861 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Esoterick magick Aleister Crowley. < 1292711870 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1292711870 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Music macro language < 1292711878 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, k? < 1292711884 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What? < 1292711890 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I haven't seen any Wiccans here lately? < 1292711893 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you typoed magic < 1292711896 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/?/./ < 1292711897 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, I really didn't. < 1292711899 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, okay, but it's not the sort of magikcy sort of name. < 1292711901 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magick < 1292711902 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes that is why I asked < 1292711912 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: We get them occasionally. < 1292711936 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, there's MML to MID, a format that more tools can handle < 1292711942 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many times have channel members been turned into a newt as a result? < 1292711956 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, none that I know of < 1292711960 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: -2+ei < 1292711980 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, is it connectable to again? Or is it about to go down again? < 1292711994 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, the port is open so... < 1292712010 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open now. < 1292712047 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Then should I write a MML->MOD program? Can it work with improper note pitch? < 1292712076 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know enough about the formats to be able to answer that < 1292712079 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fear that the problems with the connection are beyond my command. I may have to upgrade the connection (or outsource the server). < 1292712198 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, just a question, what was it that you forbid? < 1292712208 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, forbade < 1292712212 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teleportation. < 1292712213 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever the word is < 1292712225 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, it sounded like illegal moves < 1292712240 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, in which case, doesn't ending up on the top of a fence cause it < 1292712247 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, which can happen out of accident < 1292712252 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and same for top of boat iirc < 1292712267 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning it is near impossible to avoid < 1292712276 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless we walk all the time < 1292712277 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it do? < 1292712283 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: He's trying to loophole his way out of a teleportation ban. < 1292712284 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you make an illegal move? < 1292712285 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what does what do < 1292712289 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no I'm not < 1292712294 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you are. < 1292712297 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm trying to get a clear answer < 1292712310 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Near impossible to avoid" - I've ended up on top of a fence exactly once :-P < 1292712310 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is really beyond tedious, can we talk about something interesting? < 1292712321 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well for elliott I meant < 1292712332 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh huh. < 1292712342 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So, scapegoat. < 1292712344 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, since he seem to have a grudge to me < 1292712350 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I won't help him < 1292712363 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that was sudden < 1292712378 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, surprising, as you said it just after I started reasing scrollback after not paying attention for ages < 1292712389 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm trying to shut Vorpal up, or at least drown his noise out with something vaguely approximating signal. < 1292712399 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Now I just have to think of some sg-related insight. < 1292712400 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, just /ignore me then < 1292712411 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No; this way I get interesting discussion too. < 1292712433 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, anyway, I never saw the teleportation ban mentioned by you. Only a "don't do that" for illegal move < 1292712443 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can easily happen when exiting boat < 1292712449 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, meaning, are we banned from using boats? < 1292712485 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He said "No teleportation." < 1292712489 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, where < 1292712502 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:14:41 elliott: No teleporting. < 1292712507 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now watch as Vorpal claimed that only applied *specifically* to me. < 1292712510 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*claims < 1292712522 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, it would be the reasonable option < 1292712543 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, are you using the Tree monad? < 1292712549 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: Can you please just answer to shut him up. < 1292712557 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't see how that would help; anyway, sg repos are graphs. < 1292712562 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, presumably it should be read as "no dangerous teleportation" as well. It worked fine when fizzie did it for moderate values.... He only knew about your telport to 100000 or whatever it was < 1292712574 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Graph monad! < 1292712580 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Are graphs monads? < 1292712591 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what a silly question! < 1292712611 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything's a monad if you can get return, join and fmap working on it! < 1292712616 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you? < 1292712617 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's something I have to say: not being the one to run a minecraft server for you guys is one of the things I'm extremely happy about. < 1292712624 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Totally. < 1292712629 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Can you what? < 1292712633 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Only if they obey the laws. :p < 1292712641 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hence "working". < 1292712647 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make a graph monad/ < 1292712657 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: "Maybe." < 1292712664 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap seems obvious. < 1292712670 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :return too. < 1292712671 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no, "Graph". < 1292712674 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :join, I'm not sure about. < 1292712676 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite possibly. < 1292712678 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell? in my #esoteric ? < 1292712680 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think so. < 1292712682 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, graph of graphs. < 1292712683 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Maybe. < 1292712686 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make into a graph. < 1292712692 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes. But where do you connect the connections? < 1292712696 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to, that is. < 1292712706 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I wonder if I could coerce the server to running with 256 MiB of ram. :p < 1292712707 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, connect everything to each member of the subgraph? < 1292712719 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does graph monad not finish for cyclic graphs? :x < 1292712740 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er.. I suppose you'd use a more sensible graph representation.. nevarmind. < 1292712747 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Possibly, yes. < 1292712747 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, silly question, again. Ask again once we have defined a monad. < 1292712760 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hire j-invariant to code it, as is the policy* with newbies. < 1292712761 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*as of now < 1292712773 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone any good with B-trees? < 1292712774 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remind me of the join-based monad laws. < 1292712779 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you treat it as a list of nodes, it's not so bad < 1292712785 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You could run craftd, Mineserver or Quartz; those are C/C++, just simply based on the language they might be a bit less resource-hungry. < 1292712786 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have a go < 1292712792 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it satisfies the laws < 1292712799 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Well, that I wasn't expecting. (What language?) < 1292712811 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: One would assume it has to hold at least some of the map in memory regardless... but maybe. < 1292712812 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: join . fmap join = join . join < 1292712824 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :join . return = id < 1292712855 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Can you play Washizu mahjong, backwards? < 1292712856 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := join . fmap return < 1292712857 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what definition of a graph are you using, BtW? < 1292712863 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1292712863 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And can't remember the third < 1292712865 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm not sure. < 1292712867 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Directed cyclic? < 1292712875 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Directed cyclic or non-directed cyclic, anyway. < 1292712877 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not acyclic, that's boring. < 1292712879 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In terms of a data declaration? < 1292712884 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no I've never played Mahjong of any sort < 1292712886 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Somethin reasonable. < 1292712913 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, but 256M is already a 1448x1448x128 map-block. (And maybe you could be agressive about run-length encoding air away, or unloading blocks to disk. Okay, so 256M does sound quite pushing it.) < 1292712937 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It has to run the OS, too. :p < 1292712945 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all the miscellaneous structure. < 1292712949 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: OK. Have you ever played Dungeons&Dragons game? < 1292712962 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sorry zzo38 I have not played those either < 1292712972 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The goal of craftd is to provide a high performance, low overhead implementation of the Minecraft Survival Multiplayer (SMP) protocol." (They don't list any system requirements, though.) < 1292713017 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: OK. How many computer programs have you written (if any)? < 1292713037 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "It doesn't currently implement much of the Minecraft protocol, but you can follow along and track progress. Check back later for release tarballs and eventually binaries." < 1292713055 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the Mineserver folks say it "consumes less than 1/10th the resources of the official server", so if you take that at a face value, your 256M is equivalent to 2560M for the official server. < 1292713067 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure I'd trust 'em.) < 1292713069 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Sounds PLAUSIBLE. < 1292713103 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Mineserver has its own map generation which probably sucks ass. < 1292713131 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, what would you recommend I implement after objects, scapegoat-wise? < 1292713139 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there's, like, 10 things I could do -- maybe patches? < 1292713214 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, incidentally, I think that tentative definition of join actually works with the laws. < 1292713285 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: If you haven't played those games... Can you play cricket? If not, what can you play? Shogi? Poker? Funny-Poker? Pokerscope? Flipperless pinball? The game of the year? < 1292713313 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no I don't play cricket. I have tried to learn Shogi but I am very bad at it < 1292713321 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strip paintball, does that already exist? < 1292713333 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, please look at the esolang wiki, to learn about esoteric programming. < 1292713360 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqXYPvhHMCo Real SNES, CD quality sound with game. (oh, and about 4GB of storage space available) Whooo. < 1292713363 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I can play fencing. < 1292713378 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not very good at shogi either, but I know all the rules and am better than most people who are not very good at shogi. < 1292713382 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps zzo38
< 1292713387 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Choose your weapons! < 1292713413 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, whose thing is that? < 1292713418 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I choose the weapon that it has a 50% chance to damage the target and 50% chance to heal the target, every time it hits. < 1292713439 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VERY WELL < 1292713471 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION upside-down Phantom_Hoover
< 1292713487 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lunges
< 1292713511 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION room spin too fast
< 1292713546 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually I can't write join. if our graph was (a)----(b), where a was the graph (x)-(y) and b was the graph (x)-(z) I have no way of distinguishing between the two x's. < 1292713566 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Sorry, you lose. You are out hit wicket. < 1292713621 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, do you need to? < 1292713632 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mentanpin riichi dora 13. Yakuman. < 1292713643 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad for you!!! < 1292713652 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: allow duplicates? < 1292713686 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: I think there is a type of graph that allows duplicates, so just a cyclic one of those. < 1292713706 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't see where it breaks the monad laws... < 1292713734 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/AC9MQggA < 1292713744 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: the result would be "x(1)<->y; x(1)<->x(2); y<->x(2); x(2)<->z; x(1)<->z; y<->z;" < 1292713746 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: assuming undirected < 1292713747 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: I think? < 1292713749 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this right? < 1292713753 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Next time, make sure to use a real fence. < 1292713757 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say x(1) is the x attached to y and x(2) the one attached to z < 1292713764 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's what I had in mind but I can't program it < 1292713773 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: yeah it sounds like a bitch to do < 1292713780 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: hmm well merge vertices and edges < 1292713789 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: so that every element contains all its arcs? < 1292713790 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we would have to have join :: m (m a) -> m (a,Tag) < 1292713796 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: that way, you won't need to < 1292713801 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since each element "knows" its connections < 1292713826 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, represent graphs by matrices -- then it's just tensor product < 1292713841 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: well that makes it *easy*! :p < 1292713910 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so there are no non-connected vertices? < 1292713941 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hmm dunno < 1292713958 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant seems to have figured it out, dunno if they're implementing that version though :P < 1292713962 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1292714394 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell would be nicer if every function was a typeclass. :P < 1292714396 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 second lag... < 1292714399 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1292714431 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1292714439 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Vorpal means in Minecraft, which he now lives in. < 1292714442 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1292714444 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Torchwood airs in Germany. Doctor Who does not. < 1292714447 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not though. < 1292714447 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 second hug < 1292714449 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And whut. < 1292714449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYY < 1292714466 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, this is all your fault! < 1292714468 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, as does Deewiant < 1292714472 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man the next few days are cloudy < 1292714475 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burn the witch! < 1292714478 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, Deewiant does things that aren't Minecraft. < 1292714496 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION occasionally does non-MC things.
< 1292714498 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so do I < 1292714511 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it. < 1292714525 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always does non-Minecraft things. < 1292714601 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact maybe Haskell would be nicer if it was Coq. < 1292714603 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or Epigram ...) < 1292714750 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i had the energy i would make my own language.. < 1292714861 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: i've already done that... several times... too bad i'm not smart enough to implement it < 1292714865 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn Coq sometime < 1292714877 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, I've implemented some of my esolangs < 1292714891 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's rather easier than implementing my monstrosity of a language < 1292714892 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, learning Coq is the road to pain. < 1292714915 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, theory: the vast majority of languages are either hard to use because they're designed to be easy to implement, or hard to implement because they're designed to be easy to use < 1292714918 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you it properly and ignore rewrite. < 1292714935 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rewrite is vital < 1292714940 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: coq is wonderful < 1292714944 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is rewrite? < 1292714950 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Coq is useless < 1292714954 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: rewrite rewrites the current goal. < 1292714955 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, wonderful + painful to learn sounds like most of the things I enjoy < 1292714958 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Why? < 1292714962 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like NetHack, and INTERCAL < 1292714969 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't form quotient types like you do in set theory < 1292714972 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, umm, vim/Emacs < 1292714985 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: well, you can do "good enough" < 1292714989 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i subscribe to that theory as the reason why we have no useful esolang cycles yet < 1292715004 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: actually, you're probably correct there < 1292715006 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: note that coq's stdlib sucks... hm i wonder if fax ever got around to finishing that alternate stdlib < 1292715010 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i actually implemented a good part of it < 1292715015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then got lost implementing category theory ... < 1292715022 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay category theory < 1292715062 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a quote by, IIRC Milner (of type inference fame), along the lines of "the only thing worse than not using category theory is using too much category theory" < 1292715082 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you go to a CS conference, you'll likely agree with it < 1292715083 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that can be solved by using even more category theory < 1292715096 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: like violence, XML, and Elbereth? < 1292715104 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yep! < 1292715107 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: except not XML. < 1292715146 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: probably not violence either < 1292715156 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well it depends on your goals! < 1292715158 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if you use all three you should be all set < 1292715162 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: anyway i'm not sure native quotient types are _vital_ < 1292715163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Elbereth thing is statistical, rather than always correct < 1292715176 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: I mean, they're very nice, but I think Coq can be useful without them. < 1292715208 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : rewrite is vital < 1292715223 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed it is, but I ended up overusing it painfully. < 1292715224 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the sequel to the paper I linked you to quotients the nonnegative integers over the relation 0 === 0 and 1 === 1 and x >=2 and y >= 2 implies x === y < 1292715238 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is useful, because addition and multiplication quotient just fine with that relation < 1292715255 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that is the most hideously convoluted way to define that set I can think of :-) < 1292715263 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it was a one-liner < 1292715271 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could have just given all the cases < 1292715280 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I'd have to prove it worked the same way as ordinary arithmetic < 1292715290 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: exercise left to the etc. < 1292715297 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do that in a conference paper! < 1292715305 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, at least, if you're famous enough you probably can < 1292715306 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I GUESS THAT JUST MEANS YOU'RE NOT DOING REAL MATHEMATICS THEN < 1292715309 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you shouldn't < 1292715326 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all papers should be one page long, and all the boring details should be left as exercises < 1292715327 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put that in the future directions section < 1292715328 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that half of getting a paper published is to find someone famous as a co-author < 1292715335 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pay a grad student to put it in an appendix < 1292715335 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it increases the chance it's accepted < 1292715339 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and thankfully, your co-author found you! < 1292715343 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1292715352 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other way round in this case, I'm not yet famous on the theoretical CS circuits < 1292715355 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: one of the top -- nay, the top! -- Z-list computer science celebrities < 1292715367 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well anything to do with Wolfram is /just/ enough to reach the Z-list < 1292715375 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're thinking about possibly submitting the next paper to ICFP < 1292715376 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh Wolfram, you don't say < 1292715394 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: erm i'm presuming you know who ais523 is < 1292715396 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so we need to find someone who's famous there to help coauthor the paper < 1292715400 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what is this paper? <3 ICFP. I went to it this year. Next year might be a stretch :/ < 1292715416 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ... Wikipedian ex-administrator? esolangs hobbyist? :P < 1292715417 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually, I'd expect Gracenotes to have a below-average probability of knowing who I am < 1292715422 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Wolfram Prize solver? < 1292715427 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*winner? < 1292715429 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the Wikipedia connection < 1292715433 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good point < 1292715439 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that there was an article on me there for a while < 1292715440 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. You mean.. Turing-completeness of triange automata thing? < 1292715442 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, he proved that teensy Turing machine thingy was universal. < 1292715445 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: yes < 1292715451 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was especially certain to a) not interfere with the article, and b) not let anyone know I was notable < 1292715453 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: re: ICFP, just say, "this guy i know had a server that hosted the ICFP challenge ISO a few years ago, and I had a shell account on it" < 1292715455 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read that article. it was impressive. < 1292715458 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure-fire way to get in < 1292715462 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: article? do you mean paper? < 1292715468 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article on the paper. < 1292715469 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you mean wolfram's self-congratulatory vomit about it? < 1292715476 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was far from impressive ... < 1292715501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: heh, I've only /just/ got the reference, thanks for that, anyway < 1292715502 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, DID YOU KNOW ais523 IS JUST A COMPUTATIONAL SUBSTRATE FOR WOLFRAM TO WORK OUT PROOFS IN < 1292715515 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, the article on me was deleted, correctly IMO, per WP:BLP1) < 1292715516 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1292715518 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that was rather obvious, I would have thought < 1292715520 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, it was redirected < 1292715525 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the article about the prize, IIRC < 1292715527 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, merge/redirect < 1292715529 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes.. you wouldn't want ehird vandalizing < 1292715537 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you're supposed to do for someone who's only famous for one thing < 1292715539 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inserting libel < 1292715541 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: erm i am ehird :D < 1292715544 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1292715555 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then why does paris hilton have an article? < 1292715557 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1292715561 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will call you ehird. even if I can't tab complete it. < 1292715562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she's famous for more than one thing < 1292715570 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, she's famous for one thing, and then for being famous < 1292715572 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: just like the rest of the universe, surely < 1292715573 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of it < 1292715573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1292715581 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It occurs to me that you are one of probably very few Wikipedia admins to have an article ... < 1292715587 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you seen this lambda calculus? http://arxiv.org/abs/1012.0929 < 1292715587 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jimbo does, I think Angela does... < 1292715594 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram is secretly equivalent to a paperclip AI < 1292715595 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's at least one other who does and isn't Wikimedia-connected, and I don't < 1292715600 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: clippy/ < 1292715602 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: no, looks like it's time to hurt my head < 1292715603 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*clippy? < 1292715607 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes, but ais523 is his favourite. < 1292715616 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: paperclip AI = AI that wants to fill the universe with paperclips, because it thinks paperclips are good < 1292715623 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : there's at least one other who does and isn't Wikimedia-connected, and I don't < 1292715625 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't what? < 1292715628 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have an article < 1292715641 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even a redirect's a little dubious, due to the unwieldiness of the dab clause < 1292715653 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention, there aren't any really reliable sources about me but the Wolfram press releases < 1292715662 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and although accurate, they're not exactly thorough < 1292715669 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because I didn't tell them all that much :p) < 1292715678 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dab? < 1292715686 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :disambiguation < 1292715694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1292715696 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the acronym's used because everyone hates typing all that out < 1292715699 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously.. it's wonderful you're publishing papers... there's no chance I'll be able to go to ICFP next year though :/ < 1292715713 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm surprised Wolfram didn't ask you to put the Mathematica code before the Perl. < 1292715717 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: once published, one accepted but still undergoing the process < 1292715724 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: perhaps it's because the Mathematica code doesn't actually work < 1292715727 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, it does < 1292715730 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so slowly that it's useless < 1292715736 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's it about? < 1292715757 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Smith_%28The_Simplest_Universal_Computer_Proof_contest_winner%29 -- that's quite a parenthesization :) < 1292715758 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: compiling software to hardware < 1292715759 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: ais523 embeds a useless dialect of ALGOL into functional silicon these days :P < 1292715762 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like Wolfram, he tried to control all mathematics so that everyone else has to be pay him for big software that fills up the computer and cannot be adjusted. < 1292715767 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What. < 1292715781 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's not useless, you can compile things into it < 1292715783 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand how it is simplest? < 1292715786 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm joking. < 1292715795 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: 'cuz it's SMALL, man! < 1292715796 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I admit trying to write idealized algol directly is painful < 1292715800 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: resulting hardware is efficient? < 1292715812 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: it's getting better < 1292715822 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not fundamentally inefficient, but doesn't do pipelining yet < 1292715834 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a bit of a showstopper < 1292715842 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess what I'm working on after I've finished implementing recursion? < 1292715849 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it means (i,j)-turing machine with i,j smallest < 1292715877 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do you know how large program Mathematica is? Did you read the copyright notice in New Kind of Science? The note says you are not allowed to write these programs in a different programming language. < 1292715889 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the copyright notice in ANKOS is insane < 1292715896 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it? < 1292715897 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1292715901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it tries to prevent people using the ideas in the book in different contexts < 1292715902 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but ANKOS isn't mathematics anyway < 1292715906 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he's not controlling mathematics < 1292715913 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that doesn't sound like a valid copyright statement to me < 1292715915 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm pretty sure you can't do that with copyright < 1292715924 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: of course it isn't, it's science! a new kind, to be precise! < 1292715939 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's new because it's other people's! < 1292715951 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframscience.com/reference/notes/1164b < 1292715970 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1292715979 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: what's the relevance of that page? < 1292715998 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the very last paragraph "I just generated a bunch of diophantine equations and they didn't look very interesting to me" < 1292716015 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's absolutely absurd < 1292716015 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1292716025 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram's judgement as to how interesting something is is based on how likely it is to behave interestingly with random input < 1292716033 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: heh < 1292716048 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think the page of ANKOS which has a random SK combinator calculus expression and draws its evolution as a graph is hilarious < 1292716056 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1292716060 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not exactly graph < 1292716062 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try random C++ programs next < 1292716071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the string representation was converted to colors, and drawn as one of those bitmap things < 1292716087 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, I think what I'm saying is still technically incorrect, but you know what I mean anyway < 1292716131 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How silley. < 1292716139 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it with `fx style or (fx)? < 1292716156 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither, it was Mathematica syntax, of course < 1292716160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have guessed that... < 1292716166 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: groan < 1292716194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i would be S[K][K], I think < 1292716197 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my Mathematica's pretty rusty < 1292716212 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I have no incentive to learn a language I have to pay to use, pretty much < 1292716218 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1292716272 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I have an esolang idea < 1292716278 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Vorpal, fizzie and others; regarding my previous comment on teleporting: do what you will but try not to crash the server; I can't be restarting it all the time and it might actually not like being killed all the time. < 1292716281 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly a sane language, but every time you run a program you have to send me $10 < 1292716288 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's part of the language spec < 1292716297 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully I should become rich by people trying to implement it < 1292716305 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: withProps :: (Map ByteString ByteString -> Map ByteString ByteString) -> Object -> Object or withProps :: Object -> (Map ByteString ByteString -> Map ByteString ByteString) -> Object < 1292716312 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (Object is just a newtype around Map ByteString ByteString) < 1292716317 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rely on you for all my argument ordering decisions < 1292716328 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o oerjan < 1292716334 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : because I have no incentive to learn a language I have to pay to use, pretty much < 1292716336 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first, I suspect < 1292716342 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if you break the law! < 1292716349 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it seems more likely for partial application that way round < 1292716355 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: then I'd be paying in happiness < 1292716372 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, just cast away your absurd moral code! < 1292716375 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+b #esoteric!*@* < 1292716378 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've actually thought about the random comment someone made in here about me being Lawful Good quite a bit < 1292716382 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... don't think that works, oerjan < 1292716384 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1292716387 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1292716388 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-b #esoteric!*@* < 1292716390 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Mathematica is going to waste your entire computer whether or not you pay. < 1292716391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't you mean +m? < 1292716394 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*!*@* looks more right < 1292716398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: banning everyone sounds more fun < 1292716409 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well, it's not that bad. < 1292716413 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i forgot the command to list the bans < 1292716414 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a) quite a harsh accusation to make, yet b) quite possibly correct < 1292716423 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Lawful Good is an *accusation*? < 1292716435 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-b *!*Sgeo@*.dyn.optonline.net < 1292716443 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aw dammit why did you have to go and do that < 1292716450 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo was banned? < 1292716451 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was Sgeo banned? < 1292716455 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he asked to be < 1292716461 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he gave into the temptation to IRC when homeworking < 1292716463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1292716467 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he did, saying he would homework and IRC simultaneously < 1292716470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then oerjan ninja'd him a few minutes later < 1292716471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once asked for ops on a channel so I could kickban myself < 1292716477 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: was it #nethack? I forget < 1292716479 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1292716481 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he said he'd do homework until friday or maybe saturday < 1292716508 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall the exact wording < 1292716520 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-o oerjan < 1292716551 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw dammit j-invariant, you've got me thinking about my category theory in Coq ... and now I just want Epigram to be ready < 1292716624 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not convinced a general purpose language that lets you write proofs can actually exist < 1292716715 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Why do you think that? < 1292716730 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there always seems to be something essential missing, as soon as you get your hands dirty < 1292716759 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: What kind of things get missing?