00:05:52 MMU-less units are the best! 00:06:06 zzo38: duct tape forever! 00:06:37 coppro: PUNCTUATION 00:06:39 nooga: precisely! 00:06:50 elliott never 00:06:51 nooga: hey what was that computer you built? 8086? 00:06:53 code party is starting 00:06:55 coppro: ":", "!" 00:06:57 coppro: that was punctuation 00:07:01 coppro: so was "-" in agora email you are BAD 00:07:02 if you think i used punctuation you are committing treason 00:07:07 oh. 00:07:11 against the queen? 00:07:14 no against the computer 00:07:15 your friend 00:07:17 the computer 00:07:31 coppro: dude talk like this all the time, you're so much cooler 00:07:44 thank you citizen 00:08:15 elliott, got the first Debian s390 CD. 00:08:27 your lack of treason is appreciated by the computer 00:08:42 you might receive increased security clearance if you keep it up 00:08:43 Phantom_Hoover: Now get the other two. :P 00:08:52 coppro: punctuation is for FAGS 00:08:54 Yes, I'd inferred that. 00:09:05 elliott are they commie mutant traitor fags? 00:09:16 coppro: yes. also, bedwetting 00:09:38 elliott thank you for reporting the fags for treason you are now red security clearance 00:09:43 and are now a troubleshooter 00:11:19 nooga is ashamed of his creation 00:11:53 No, it rose against him as soon as you mentioned it. 00:18:13 Phantom_Hoover: lawl, debian is still on firefox^Wiceweasel 3.5 00:18:33 I'm shocked and appalled. 00:22:09 -!- jcp has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 00:30:40 -!- jcp has joined. 00:31:40 elliott: Why is testing on 3.5‽ 00:31:56 Came out several months before the freeze. 00:33:06 -!- MigoMipo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:34:04 pikhq: Dunno. 00:35:09 Phantom_Hoover: You may have more fun with the MIPS port; qemu's MIPS emulator works, although it was better in 0.10 or whatever. 00:35:19 And besides, it's a Microsoft Jazz. 00:35:24 How can you resist such a platform? 00:35:47 elliott, S. 3. 9. 0. 00:36:27 pikhq: Do you support my portable 8-bit MMUless Unix project idea? Y/N 00:36:41 elliott: Y, but I don't want to work on it. :P 00:36:50 pikhq: But 6502 asm! Everyone loves that! 00:37:23 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:37:33 The S390 killed Phantom_Hoover. 00:38:37 pikhq: And hey, we get to use our OWN LANGUAGE! Because the C compilers are all heavily machine-specific and the like. :P 00:42:16 fizzie: Can VICE do a serial cable? 00:43:53 Hmm, Lunix can do Atari too. 00:55:02 INSTALLING DEBIAN ON CHIPAD 00:55:08 WOOOOO 00:58:00 Gregor: (1) Why did you buy that (2) Can I have it 00:58:33 1) A friend of mine bought it because he's an idiot, I bought it off of him for $50 because I'm an idiot, but only half as much an idiot as he is by pricE :P 00:58:40 2) If you buy it for at least $25 + shipping :P 00:59:23 Things you don't expect to see on a Commodore 64: "EXTRACTING CD.HTML (OK)" 00:59:29 X-D 01:01:41 Gregor: I swear, the developer of LUnix, upon thinking "I need to document my Commodore 64 Unix clone", thought immediately after, "in HTML". 01:02:00 Sounds about right. 01:02:07 elliott: 8088 01:02:13 i'm not ashamed 01:02:19 i was just afk ;p 01:02:33 nooga: It's 16-bit, you motherfucker. How can you pledge allegiance to the RETROMACHINES? 01:02:39 Gregor: So is it... any good? :P 01:02:47 Oh great, kernel panic. All that extraction for nothing. 01:02:51 Wait. 01:02:54 elliott: The problems are all really stupid problems. 01:02:56 I could have just put it into warp mode. 01:03:01 elliott: It's a bit slow, but quite usable if you don't do too much at once. 01:03:04 Gregor: That ... says nothing. 01:03:10 elliott: I'm continuing :P 01:03:16 Gregor: Is it resistive or capacitive? 01:03:27 Resistive, of course. We're talking about a $100 tablet here X-D 01:03:32 Gregor: BAH 01:03:36 Gregor: Stylus? :P 01:03:41 No? Finger. 01:03:51 Gregor: Please tell me it was a bitch to get Debian on. 01:04:02 LET ME FINISH TELLING ITS FLAWS GEEZE :P 01:04:04 Gregor: You see, it was on the Ubisurfer, and I just don't want an inferior experience. 01:04:10 OKAY OKAY OKAY 01:04:23 elliott: The real problems are: 1) The rotation sensor is pretty bad, it likes to hang in landscape mode, 2) IT HAS NO FREAKING OFF BUTTON X_X 01:04:33 Who needs an off button 01:04:39 I mean even a screen-off button. 01:04:40 Gregor: It seems, uh, rather low resolution :P 01:04:49 elliott: You don't even know what device I'm referring to :P 01:04:56 Gregor: http://www.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?152867-China-launches-Linux-based-Chi-pad 01:05:16 "Calibrating delay loop.. 0.37 BogoMIPS" 01:05:21 COMMODORE 64 REPRESENT 01:05:31 elliott: 1) No, that one's more expensive and better than the one I have :P 01:05:49 elliott: 2) For 7-inch, 800xwhatever isn't too bad. 01:06:02 Gregor: yours is *worse* than that? :D 01:06:07 Gregor: What RAM? 01:06:07 Yup 8-D 01:06:32 128MB DDR2 01:06:51 Gregor: Disk? 01:06:57 Also, how much is shipping to the UK from there? 01:07:02 I'm actually considering buying it from you :P 01:07:14 Because I, too, am an idiot. 01:07:23 I have no idea what the shipping would be. It has 1GB internal, I have a 2GB SD card I'd throw in :P 01:07:38 This screen is 800x480 btw. 01:07:52 Just a sec, I can link this actual device :P 01:08:20 * Sgeo should learn A*. What it is, how to use it 01:08:26 elliott: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.42071 01:08:45 elliott: Bizarrely, the feature list is all correct on that page. 01:09:48 Gregor: Wow, this looks beyond awful :P 01:09:56 IT'S BEYOND AWESOME(ly awful) 01:10:04 Gregor: Are you actually going to use it? 01:10:13 If I don't cruelly snatch it away. 01:10:33 Well, I bought it months ago, and I've only used it to surf the web in bed and now to see if I can install Debian on it :P 01:10:36 Gregor: I consider the device broken if it doesn't ship with whatever fucked up modified Android it came with, btw :P 01:10:54 GET YOUR RESET ... USB ... STICK ... 01:10:55 ... OUT 01:10:57 Uhhh, of course it ships with Android ... 01:11:06 Gregor: But you're putting Debian on. 01:11:07 Like a FIEND 01:11:17 I'm putting Debian on a chroot :P 01:11:27 Gregor: Oh. That's what I did with the Ubisurfer! 01:11:36 WELL THAR YA GO 01:11:43 Gregor: Dude, I'll totally get my Ubisurfer repaired (I, uh, bricked it) and we can TRADE. 01:11:47 I have an identical Debian install on my phone :P 01:11:59 Gregor: You give me your tablet, I give you a £129 (or in that region) ARM-based netbook! It has a KEYBOARD! 01:12:01 It runs ICEWM! 01:12:13 Gregor: And it comes with the worst browser in the world and no don't argue. 01:12:35 Gregor: It communicates, via GPRS, to one of their servers, which renders the page, with IE (yup, Windows-running IE farms), and sends back a compressed image of the result. 01:12:50 Gregor: Input fields and links are handled with something like an olde-style image map, I would assume. 01:12:58 Gregor: (It also comes with Firefox) 01:13:40 ... wow 01:15:12 I read most of TeX: The Program, already. 01:15:17 (Did you?) 01:15:30 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:15:36 elliott... why? 01:17:11 Sgeo: Because Firefox only works on Wi-Fi and this is meant to be FREE FOREVER. 01:17:15 Gregor: I know, right? 01:17:25 Gregor: How can you pass up the chance to get a hold of it? 01:17:37 Weird definition of polynomial time: It has an nth derivative that = 0 01:17:49 Woooh, Debian installed! 01:17:55 Erm, "time for weird definition", not definition of "polynomial time" 01:17:58 Gregor: Oh, and wanna know the OS? Android? NO 01:18:01 * Gregor installs ... hmm ... icewm? 01:18:10 Gregor: It's what I like to call Bastebian. 01:18:14 Gregor: Bastard Debian. 01:18:39 Gregor: They took Debian, installed their software, hacked it up in numerous to work with their hardware, gave it a /linuxrc-based bootloader, and then took out all of what makes Debian, Debian. 01:18:48 Gregor: This includes dpkg. 01:19:16 Gregor: What I am saying is: Dude, trade. 01:19:40 Why would Firefox only work with Wifi 01:19:47 That makes no sense whatsoever 01:19:58 Sgeo: Because the only other thing it has his GPRS. 01:20:03 Which is only to their IE-servers. 01:20:10 *has is 01:20:14 Gregor: TRADE Y/N 01:20:24 ....why only to their IE-servers? 01:20:36 Is it part of some weird agreement or something? 01:20:39 Because that's how they wanted it. 01:20:45 * Sgeo blibbers 01:21:01 STOP MAKING UP WORDS AND SOUNDING LIKE A CREATURE 01:24:01 pikhq: Wow, Debian GNU/Hurd is about as old as apt. 01:24:09 Gregor: You should install a tiling WM, just for the sheer insanity. 01:24:13 Gregor: (Note: You may want a mouse-based tiling WM) 01:24:20 Gregor: ((Note: Nobody's created one yet)) 01:25:15 I'm well aware of that. 01:25:18 Having searched for one before. 01:25:56 Gregor: Funny, because I have the perfect design for one, YOU SHOULD IMPLEMENT IT[shot] 01:28:25 WRITE IT IN COBOL 01:28:29 01:29:33 Does COBOL even have functions for that purpose? I think COBOL is only for common business computations. 01:32:06 DISPLAY TEXT-OUT 01:32:12 Is it just me, or is that missing a . 01:32:18 http://404i.com/cobol/basics.html 01:32:49 elliott: Huh, so it is. 01:33:01 elliott: It's weird to think that apt is actually relatively young. 01:33:08 pikhq: "relatively" 01:33:12 pikhq: Like mid-90s, no? :P 01:33:50 pikhq: Hmm, 1999. 01:33:59 elliott: Mere 10 years. 01:34:00 DSELECT AM I RIGHT 01:34:05 WOOOOOOOOOOO DSELECT 01:34:08 *God* dselect sucks. 01:34:40 $ sudo aptitude install dselect 01:34:41 oh yeah 01:35:53 http://404i.com/cobol/4div-c.html 01:35:59 This looks very... inflexible 01:36:16 I SHOULD KEEP CAPS-LOCK ON WHEN TALKING ABOUT COBOL, REALLY 01:36:22 Gregor: So are you up for a trade or not? :P 01:36:30 Gregor: This device is ONLY available inside the UK, I think. 01:36:33 Gregor: So, y'know, RARITY. 01:36:41 Yeah, no trade :P 01:37:12 WHY IS ZERO A KEYWORD? 01:37:15 Gregor: WHY NOT 01:37:25 elliott: What WM should I use? 01:37:33 Ice? 01:37:35 Gregor: dwm? Maybe not :P 01:37:42 Gregor: 9wm! 01:37:43 Gregor: Write your own WM, then 01:37:44 Go for 9wm. 01:37:45 I want something that's borderline-usable, but light :P 01:37:58 Gregor: 9wm, aewm, or wm2/wmx. 01:38:02 Sgeo: Maybe so you don't get mixed up with "O"? 01:38:03 Gregor: Those are your three (well, four) choices. 01:38:16 Gregor: wm2 would be nice with the widescreen. aewm would be like 9wm but with a title bar. 01:38:20 9wm would be hard core. 01:38:49 Gregor: Although 9wm and aewm are both heavily dependent on middle/right clicks. 01:38:53 So go for wm2/wmx. 01:39:07 Desktop-click menu, yes? 01:39:26 Hrm, no maximize button in wm{2,x}? 01:39:39 -!- Sgeo has changed nick to SGEO. 01:39:44 Gregor: None in wm2. Dunno about wmx. 01:39:45 * SGEO GIVES UP ON THIS PARTICULAR TUTORIAL 01:39:49 Gregor: They're, uh, opinionated. (wmx less so.) 01:40:00 Yeaaaaaaaaaaah so Ice then :P 01:40:10 Gregor: Wait. 01:40:26 There's a wait regardless, I'm still installing the X server. 01:40:26 Gregor: Ratpoison + a panel (fbpanel or whatever). 01:40:39 Ratpoison = keyboard-happy 01:40:44 Gregor: Because there's no real point having multiple windows at once on such a screen, and the panel lets you switch windows without using the keyboard. 01:40:48 Gregor: See the second part of my sentence :P 01:41:01 Since when does Ratpoison let you switch window w/o the keyboard? 01:41:05 -!- FireFly has quit (Quit: swatted to death). 01:41:21 Gregor: When you use a panel application...? 01:41:29 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh 01:41:30 Derr :P 01:42:06 Gregor: jwm is a quite nice icewm-esque thing but its config file is xml so bleh. 01:42:26 Gregor: What state are you in? I'ma look up shipping :P 01:42:44 Instead of implementing TeX, I can implement "XeX", which can be different (it might not pass the TRIP test, it won't implement \outer and \long, etc) but can produce DVI output with identical meaning from TeX when typesetting a correct (no error) TeX document (with a modified Plain TeX format that changes things to support TeX files 01:42:50 http://www.infoworld.com/d/developer-world/looking-job-security-try-cobol-426 01:42:54 elliott: Indiana 01:42:58 elliott: fbpanel + ratpoison = fail 01:43:02 such as default extension, and \outer and \long, and so on) 01:43:15 Gregor: Yeah, it probably just tries to focus, not raise... or ratpoison refuses to be coerced :P 01:44:09 Gregor: I have no idea how your country's postal system works. 01:44:22 Neither do I :P 01:44:36 Priority Mail® 01:44:36 International Flat Rate Envelope 01:44:36 9 1/2" x 12 1/2". 01:44:36 Maximum weight 4 pounds. 01:44:43 Gregor: Would it fit in that? :P 01:44:47 Gregor: What country? 01:44:47 Oh, wait, there's an EXPRESS one too. 01:44:49 That's not quite PRIORITY. 01:44:56 Is there a "slow" option? :P 01:45:10 elliott: Should, this isn't 4lbs. 01:45:19 Gregor: It'd fit into an envelope, then? 01:45:23 Gregor: What about the charger? 01:45:31 elliott: Just a small AC adapter, no problem. 01:45:41 Plasma Mobile is the third environment. It is targeted at smartphones and small tablet devices that are mainly used via touch input. It is still being developed with the first stable release expected to be due in 2011, although individual KDE applications may be released earlier as part of the porting effort to MeeGo. Preview releases of the Kontact applications and a document viewer based on KOffice are already available. 01:45:44 DUUDE INSTALL THIS :P 01:45:45 elliott: I fear that it would get smashed, but other than that :P 01:46:20 Gregor: What about 9 1/2" x 12 1/2"? 01:46:30 ... this is a 7" tablet. 01:46:30 Ooh wait never mind. 01:46:34 Priority Mail® International Flat Rate Envelope* [More info about Priority Mail® International Flat Rate Envelope*] 01:46:34 Maximum Value for Contents: $400.00 01:46:34 USPS Supplied Envelope: 9 1/2" x 12 1/2". 01:46:34 Maximum weight 4 pounds. 01:46:39 That's, like, way bigger than it needs to be :P 01:46:45 Gregor: $13.45 at post office, $12.78 online. 01:46:57 Gregor: Wait, surely that power adapter is US-only? :( 01:47:03 Err, yup 8-D 01:47:06 I'll just get an adapter or never charge it ever 01:48:00 Gregor: So as you'll clearly pay for the postage online, I can have that sweet piece of kit for $37.78. SWEET 01:48:09 (Equivalently, 27p) 01:48:24 Actually £23.34 but whatever :P 01:48:52 Plasma Tablet is a prototype implementation that combines elements from Plasma Netbook (notably its newspaper view) with elements from Plasma Mobile. 01:49:39 Gregor: ...so, uhh, is it any good at browsing the web? :-P 01:50:17 It's not too bad, actually. Scrolling on big pages can be sort of slow, but it's not so bad on the screen size. 01:50:24 Images usually look shitty :P 01:51:01 Gregor: Man, this thing has a slower CPU than new smartphones, a seemingly shittier-although-larger display compared to my iPhone, and a terrible touchscreen :P 01:51:11 Gregor: If we could put a dollar value on frustration... 01:51:16 ...this thing would cost a fuckton. I want it. 01:51:19 X-D 01:51:32 *MUCH slower 01:51:41 Gregor: Well, isn't it 500 mhz? 01:51:46 If not, HOLY SHIT IT HAS LOWER SPECS THAN THE UBISURFER. 01:51:49 Huh? No. 01:51:53 Gregor: ...X_X what is it 01:51:57 Dude, I linked you to it :P 01:52:03 Gregor: It quoted no CPU speed. 01:52:17 Yes it did. 01:52:30 Gregor: Relink :P 01:53:00 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.42071 01:53:06 An impressive 350MHz 01:53:11 A true powerhouse. 01:53:36 Gregor: I... this is the worst thing, like, ever. 01:53:39 8-D 01:53:46 It's pretty entertaining though :P 01:54:03 Gregor: The iPad currently sounds like the greatest device to ever be birthed, listening to this. 01:54:10 X-d 01:54:11 *X-D 01:54:26 MAY STEVE JOB'S LOINS ENVELOP ME 01:54:29 Gregor: Please tell me it has Flash. 01:54:36 How could it? 01:54:39 Gregor: It would be hilarious to watch it choke on EVERY FLASH EVER. 01:55:07 Gregor: Dude dude dude 01:55:12 Gregor: QEMU + Windows XP 01:55:14 Gregor: DO IT. DO IT NOW 01:55:20 lawl 01:55:22 Let's not :P 01:55:27 Gregor: Okay then. WINDOWS CE 01:55:31 lawl 01:55:32 Let's not :P 01:55:37 Gregor: MAC OS X 01:55:43 lawl 01:55:44 Let's not :P 01:55:47 Gregor: GENTOO 01:56:27 elliott: Actually, most power adapters these days are going to be 120V/240V simply because it's cheaper than making two adapter circuits. Honestly. 01:56:37 pikhq: Yes but lack of child-saving safety prong,. 01:56:39 *prong. 01:56:54 elliott: You would need to purchase a socket adapter, yes. 01:57:08 THE CHILDREN 01:57:52 Gregor: NETBSD 01:57:53 brb 01:58:04 NETBRB 01:58:42 Isn't it annoying how many fucking sockets there are out there? 01:58:54 And volt/hertz combinations. 01:59:00 No, the more fucking-sockets the better chance of fucking. 02:00:14 * Gregor waits for pikhq to stop bashing his head into a wall. 02:00:30 Amusingly, the US is the only country using an international standard for their socket. 02:01:05 (the US socket was retroactively defined as *the* socket for 120v 60Hz power by the IEC, because we're the only people who insist on it.) 02:01:42 This is, however, another case of blaming America for having bad technology when it's really just because we had it first. 02:02:12 Gregor: I'm actually not calling it bad; it works pretty much as well as 240v 50Hz. 02:02:40 It hurts less when you lick wall sockets though. 02:02:40 Gregor: It's only annoying because it's *different*. 02:02:54 Gregor: Now Japan, on the other hand, that we can blame. 02:03:12 They use 100V power, 50Hz *or* 60Hz. 02:03:19 Japan and France. We can ALWAYS blame Japan and/or France. 02:03:32 Oh, France is unconditionally blamed. 02:08:32 would it be useless to release an OS X esolang interpreter? 02:18:03 COMPUTE DEMO-VAR = 2+2 02:22:35 * SGEO VAGUELY WONDERS WHAT STRING MANIPULATION IS LIKE IN COBOL 02:22:41 PROBABLY LIVING HELL 02:24:05 hMM 02:24:51 IT OCCURS TO ME THAT THE WORKING-STORAGE STUFF HELPS ENFORCE READABLE VARIABLE NAMES. IF YOU DON'T USE READABLE VARIABLE NAMES THERE, THE CODE BECOMES SO HOPELESSLY UNREADABLE NO ONE WOULD EVEN DREAM OF WRITING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE 02:26:33 OH, SO THAT'S WHY ZEROS EXIST (READING A GOOD TUTORIAL) 02:33:44 SGEO: No, people just wrote code that hideous. 02:33:44 Trust me. 02:34:55 Okay, now that's actually kinda annoying. US power is actually 120V/240V. Driers and ovens get 240V for their heating elements. 02:35:29 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:36:06 *sigh* 02:36:14 I should be given the power to replace all standards. 02:36:46 HMM, NUMERIC EDITED CANNOT BE MOVED INTO NUMERIC EDITED 02:36:52 ... 02:36:58 I swear Debian is faster than Android on this ... 02:37:17 IceWM = superfast :P 02:37:27 Gregor: Well, Android actually has a VM going. 02:37:49 true 02:40:36 ... 02:40:58 Okay, high-leg delta power distribution is really fucking clever. (the scheme that the US uses for power distribution) 02:41:24 I'D TRUST COBOL WITH CURRENCY WITH . THAN SOME MORON WRITING CODE IN JAVA MANIPULATING CURRENCY AS A FLOAT OR DOUBLE 02:41:32 It's got two AC hot lines and a single neutral line. The hot lines are half wavelength out of step. 02:41:59 SGEO likes COBOL; discuss his increasing stupidity as time increases. 02:42:06 The upshot is that if you use just the two hot lines, you get perfect AC of twice the voltage of each individual line. 02:42:15 So, 120V/240V power distribution. 02:43:00 I WOUDN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING MORE COMPLICATED THAN SOME MATH AND SIMPLE FLAT-FILE MANIPULATION 02:43:46 elliott: To be fair, he's only appreciating its decimal floating point. Which is one of the few useful things it has. 02:45:26 -!- sftp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:46:46 * Gregor proceeds to install xterm 02:47:29 Gregor: Next, XChat! 02:47:32 Do it 02:47:36 Sure why not :P 02:48:43 Gregor: Also Firefox. Don't argue. 02:48:46 Gregor: Or better, Seamonkey. 02:49:36 Gregor: Also QEMU. 02:52:05 hMM 02:52:10 -!- wareya has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:52:24 WHAT IF I WANT A CONDITION NAME THAT CHECKS SEVERAL VARIABLES? 02:53:13 -!- wareya has joined. 02:54:08 DEAR TUTORIAL: STOP IT WITH THE UNREADABLE POWERPOINT ANIMATIONS 02:57:37 WELL, THIS POWERPOINT VIEWER THINGY FOR WINDOWS 95 WORKS ON WINDOWS 7 02:58:42 SGEO: #cobol 03:05:28 elliott, ITYM #COBOL 03:05:43 night → 03:08:23 "Open subroutines. are useful because they allow a programmer to code a subroutine. without the formality or overhead involved in coding a Procedure or Function. 03:08:23 " 03:08:35 ..HOW IS THAT USEFUL? WHAT OVERHEAD/ 03:09:24 coppro: http://damnyouautocorrect.com/img/oh-poopy-autocorrect.jpg 03:11:10 comex: I have an excellent idea. 03:23:12 elliott: Yeesh, xchat has a crapload of dependencies X-D 03:23:24 Gregor: Yes :P 03:23:27 Gregor: Try KDE next! 03:23:33 Yeah, let's not. 03:23:50 Gregor: Okay, fine; thttpd. 03:23:55 "Hello from my TABLET!!!" 03:24:11 libmozjs2d 03:24:16 Well on my way to Firefox now! 03:24:39 I am not very good at the C code golf. To do good at the C code golf at Anarchy Golf, it is necessary to make assumptions about the machine, and those things! But some of the other ones I did a good job sometime 03:24:43 Gregor: I was joking, you moron :P Install Chromium. 03:24:58 elliott: libmozjs2d is (apparently) a dep of xchat. 03:25:05 SGEO: What does it mean "open subroutines"? 03:25:07 Gregor: ...interesting. 03:25:29 zzo38, execution can fall through to the next subroutine, depending on how you call the subroutin 03:25:52 Or if execution doesn't terminate by the time you reach it physically 03:26:47 SGEO: Do you mean like in machine code you might have a subroutine followed by the next one directly in memory, with no RETURN code in between? 03:27:06 Something like that, I think 03:27:34 Except in COBOL, one way of calling it ensures that it returns.. but if you don't terminate the program, the subroutine will be called again 03:27:43 And then the next one, without the return 03:27:44 Can you do that in any programming language other than assembly language? (If so, you have to have it omit prolog/epilog to make it working?) 03:28:00 FIRST-PARAGRAPH. 03:28:07 DISPLAY "FIRST". 03:28:26 Let me pastebin this actually 03:29:01 -!- calamari has joined. 03:31:40 http://ideone.com/i2WDC 03:32:12 So FIRST-PARA calls PERFORM SECOND-PARA, which performs the second paragraph and returns to the first 03:32:21 O, now I understand. 03:32:21 Then execution falls through to the second and third paragraphs 03:33:37 elliott: WTFWTFWTF 03:33:41 DEPENDENCIES FAIL 03:33:50 Gregor: X_X 03:33:54 Gregor: You're using armel right? 03:33:55 Not arm? 03:33:59 Yup 03:34:04 Nonono, you misunderstand. 03:34:08 Nothing is failing to install. 03:34:11 It's installing TOO MUCH. 03:34:11 Oh, you just don't like it 03:34:13 The thingy complained at me about missing the 7 spaces in front 03:34:15 :D 03:34:15 I've got iceweasel. 03:34:16 FOR XCHAT 03:34:19 -!- sshc has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:34:22 Gregor: <3 03:34:27 Or maybe it would have been ok if I skipped the line numbers, but I didn't try it 03:34:30 Gregor: it probably depends on x-www-browser to open links 03:34:33 or at least recommends 03:34:41 I didn't install the recommends! 03:34:45 * SGEO tries it 03:34:48 Then again, I didn't pay any attention :P 03:35:43 No, that does not work 03:35:49 I need all those damn spaces 03:36:17 OK, after all that lunacy, I just need xvkbd. 03:37:09 Gregor: Tell me you're using apt? 03:37:16 You sound like you're doing it manually :P 03:37:21 "Linking and byte-compiling packages for runtime python2.6..." 03:37:24 Of course I'm using apt. 03:37:37 aptitude install xchat -> holy crap why do I have iceweasel 03:37:37 ^faq apt 03:37:42 hmm 03:37:43 ^help 03:37:47 NO FUNGOT 03:37:50 fizzie: HALP HALP PALHPALHPALHP[L[LD[RTJ 03:37:51 # 03:37:53 i am literally in seizures 03:38:49 !sh echo iojdfg 03:38:57 1034 ++++++++++++[>++++++++>++++++++>+++++++>+++++++++<<<<-]>>+++.--.>>.<<<+.>>>+.<<<.>>>+++++.<<++++++++.<---------------------------------------.--------------------------.>>----.+++++++++++++++++++++.++++++++++.>--.----.<<----.<.>----.>>.<++++++++.<.>++.------.<<.>>+.>----.-------.+++++++++++++.---.<<<.>>>++.<<++++.<.>+.+++++++++.>--.<<.>+++++.>----------.---.<<.>>----.<+++.>>--------.<<----.----.--.--------.<.>>-------------------------------.++++.<<.>>+++++ 03:39:01 Gregor: what 03:39:17 ... 03:39:22 !sh echo racism 03:39:23 racism 03:39:28 !sh echo iojdfg 03:39:29 iojdfg 03:39:31 Gregor: what 03:39:38 !bf ++++++++++++[>++++++++>++++++++>+++++++>+++++++++<<<<-]>>+++.--.>>.<<<+.>>>+.<<<.>>>+++++.<<++++++++.<---------------------------------------.--------------------------.>>----.+++++++++++++++++++++.++++++++++.>--.----.<<----.<.>----.>>.<++++++++.<.>++.------.<<.>>+.>----.-------.+++++++++++++.---.<<<.>>>++.<<++++.<.>+.+++++++++.>--.<<.>+++++.>----------.---.<<.>>----.<+++.>>--------.<<----.----.--.--------.<.>>-------------------------------. 03:39:38 ++++.<<.>>++++ 03:39:39 calamari: People always thank me for the awesome B 03:39:45 if that outputted iodfjg 03:39:47 *iojdfg 03:39:49 i would have lol'd 03:40:01 Gregor: I guess it decided to say it again :P 03:40:04 Oh goddddddd 03:40:17 EgoBot: You screwy! 03:40:41 elliott: Idea. Grey Mist icon set. 03:40:48 -!- EgoBot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:40:49 -!- HackEgo has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:40:54 pikhq: Grey Mist icons = disable icons 03:41:02 -!- HackEgo has joined. 03:41:03 pikhq: I'm not actually using Grey Mist right now :P 03:41:05 -!- EgoBot has joined. 03:41:05 elliott: Not really. 03:41:07 -!- elliott has left (?). 03:41:09 -!- elliott has joined. 03:41:17 elliott: What *are* you using, if not Grey Mist? 03:41:26 pikhq: C... C... Clearlooks. 03:41:33 I... it's the default. 03:41:38 elliott: THE FEATURES, MAN, THE FEATURES. 03:41:40 Please don't hurt me. 03:41:40 elliott: HOW COULD YOU. 03:42:02 Also, a Grey Mist iconset would clearly be a very very minimal lineart icon set. 03:42:04 pikhq: IN MY DEFENCE I TOTALLY DON'T ENDORSE IT OK 03:42:11 pikhq: Also, agreed, get on it :P 03:42:45 Unlikely scenes: 03:42:46 sub'SQRT','134.77-' 03:43:47 OK, seriously what the fuck. 03:43:54 It installed both Python 2.6 and Python 2.5 03:43:57 Gregor: "Installing Cobol..." 03:44:00 FOR XCHAT 03:44:12 :D 03:44:21 Gregor: Probably one for XChat plugins and one for some other package it wants. 03:44:54 Probably. But still, WTF. 03:45:53 libogg0 03:45:55 WHY 03:46:06 (For FireWeaselFoxyIce of course, but still) 03:48:37 Gregor: Because it supports