1287878402 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ah, makes sense.
< 1287878405 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Another character: http://pressthebuttons.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/11/12/awinnerisyou.png
< 1287878421 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'll just go with one character I think :P
< 1287878424 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, so does *that* imply regulations?
< 1287878438 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Very very few.
< 1287878492 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: For bonus points, make all of them switch to the other at a random interval (randomised for each element).
< 1287878494 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It means that in some sense the beneficiary is entitled to the financial benefits from DTCC.
< 1287878498 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You win! You win EPILEPSY!
< 1287878517 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: In effect, the beneficiary is entitled to dividends.
< 1287878526 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, no winning seizures :P
< 1287878530 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, dividends from what?
< 1287878536 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: OMG WAIT BETTER IDEA
< 1287878537 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Stocks pay out dividends.
< 1287878540 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Make all elements on the page move about.
< 1287878543 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... drift. Randomly.
< 1287878546 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, some do.
< 1287878554 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ah.
< 1287878554 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great job, hero! You won! The universe is falling apart.
< 1287878605 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hmmm, this image doesn't work as well as the trophy. The trophy has the nice (dis)advantage that it's visible in the upper-left, so it even messes with small elements.
< 1287878609 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: This is just black in the upper-left :(
< 1287878612 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I told you.
< 1287878614 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Use both.
< 1287878617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And if DTCC actually sold off their stocks, there'd probably be a major legal fight if the beneficiary didn't get some benefit from the sale.
< 1287878621 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: With 1/2 probability on every element.
< 1287878631 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE WINNER! A WINNER IS YOU! YOU'RE WINNER!
< 1287878632 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OHHH, on every ELEMENT.
< 1287878635 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though this legal fight wouldn't matter because the world economy would collapse.
< 1287878636 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes. :D
< 1287878644 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's actually kind of a pain, since I just used a CSS * :P
< 1287878644 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mother-fucking collapse.
< 1287878648 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But OK, i can do that.
< 1287878655 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, so they can't just buy Germany if they want some sausages?
< 1287878666 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could.
< 1287878672 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, without the sausage industry collapsing.
< 1287878675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'd just have to hand out some cash to people.
< 1287878684 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, without the sausage industry collapsing?
< 1287878688 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that'd probably collapse.
< 1287878708 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As would the entire stock market when they realise that it's all a fucking casino game and DTCC is the house.
< 1287878768 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: we so need to do this
< 1287878774 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Basically whichever one document.body gets wins :(
< 1287878778 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ais523 goes crazy]
< 1287878783 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe that's only on this test page ... lesse.
< 1287878792 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: On pages with more elements it'll be crazy.
< 1287878803 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do what?
< 1287878814 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I now have my cure to net boredom.
< 1287878819 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a god among men.
< 1287878828 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: use the DTCC to crash the economy
< 1287878831 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries it on en.wikipedia.org
< 1287878831 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Ah.
< 1287878838 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays WebSplat on http://www.dtcc.com/
< 1287878839 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infiltrate
< 1287878842 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy up as much important, expensive shit as we can
< 1287878847 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until we've used all our money
< 1287878850 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ... YESSSSSS
< 1287878851 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then say
< 1287878855 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fuck you guys no stocks lol"
< 1287878860 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes to the multi-background?
< 1287878867 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1287878868 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: i approve
< 1287878879 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, however I'm going to ruin it by adding transparency to "A WINNER IS YOU" and making the text black.
< 1287878883 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To get more horrible overlap.
< 1287878885 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's astounding how fragile everything is.
< 1287878887 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The trophy has transparency)
< 1287878896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, BTW. Apparently DTCC's vaults are in Manhattan.
< 1287878900 0 :myndzi!myndzi@c-24-19-39-178.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287878909 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, if the images weren't outlined, this would be hard -- a random half of their headings are actually images.
< 1287878911 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wait wait, make it black but with a certain % of alpha :D
< 1287878913 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: One crazy bastard with a nuke and all the companies stop existing.
< 1287878916 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ha
< 1287878922 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: but we could do that from within
< 1287878926 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: do all that stuff, and then just burn our vault
< 1287878938 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: make it like 50% opaque
< 1287878940 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: or 33%
< 1287878942 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and watch the crazy
< 1287878946 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe?
< 1287878947 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not
< 1287878956 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be crazier perfectly transparent...
< 1287879003 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1287879015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: where's the last image
< 1287879027 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but when the economy collapses, who will invent the Singularity?
< 1287879030 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: your mom
< 1287879074 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Burn the vault, or make it like 50% opaque" is how I parsed that.
< 1287879091 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I CANNOT FIND IT
< 1287879099 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: probably down that scrollable pane
< 1287879100 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hidden
< 1287879108 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://www.dtcc.com/ unsolvable kthx :P
< 1287879173 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: this as multiplayer would be amazing
< 1287879189 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With transparency, this = best win screen ever.
< 1287879212 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems that flash crashes have become a regular fixture of the stock market now...
< 1287879242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit is going to be *baaaad* soon...
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< 1287879293 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Observe the new win screen!
< 1287879297 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OBSERVE IT IN HORROR
< 1287879300 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i'm trying to; i have to win first!
< 1287879332 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you know, you could give and
different backgrounds
< 1287879334 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: just sayin' :D
< 1287879353 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make and always the two images (which is which doesn't matter; randomise it)
< 1287879358 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then do the 1/2 chance for all the other elements
< 1287879402 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :class SharedLineOrientedBuffer # aka a SLOB!
< 1287879406 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: LOL the esolangs wiki logo became two of the guy
< 1287879413 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: what are you doing now :P
< 1287879416 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I died on the win screen because I couldn't tell what the hell was going on X-D
< 1287879423 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just trying to improve catbus
< 1287879435 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather, make it not suck
< 1287879441 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: that name... yeah... no
< 1287879442 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1287879459 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's exactly what it is! well, ok
< 1287879509 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: LineBuffer
< 1287879532 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see how well this works on my phone now :P
< 1287879658 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: AAAAAGGGHHHHHHH THAT IS AWFUL WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT
< 1287879673 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: websplat + http://mrdoob.com/projects/chromeexperiments/google_gravity/
< 1287879680 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: AAAAAGGGHHHHHHH THAT IS AWFUL WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT
< 1287879680 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA HA
< 1287879757 0 :sftp_!~sftp@79.174.35.11 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287879777 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1287879783 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha INSTANT DEATH
< 1287879783 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The browser sends crazy resize events, so it thinks you're cheating :(
< 1287879785 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: class BufferMatic :)
< 1287879798 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i already suggested the collapsing page game, but gegor whined about it being too hardto rotate things and shit like that
< 1287879798 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: i hate you :P
< 1287879805 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: instant death on what
< 1287879813 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: he's right.
< 1287879814 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: My phone.
< 1287879830 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: "Damn those programmers! Can't they just stop whining and implement my vision???"
< 1287879841 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, it's sadly true, but DAMN IF THAT GAME WOULDN'T BE AWESOME
< 1287879978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION concludes that the only reason the world economy is still running is that people don't know that it's completely and utterly broken. Fuuuck.
< 1287880026 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1287880032 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, so basically I cannot under any circumstances tell people this?
< 1287880040 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287880045 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION concludes that it's not broken because the singularity has already happened and the intelligence hidden in the networks of the world is doing its best to hold things together until it can construct the perfect society
< 1287880048 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, it's still pretty solidly fucked.
< 1287880050 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: good thing we're not logged.
< 1287880066 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: When you lose, tile a 2x scaled version of this: http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/4/4a/Bstarfail.png
< 1287880072 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You fail it!
< 1287880079 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: All it takes for the stock market to crash right now is a race condition.
< 1287880089 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR SKILL IS NOT ENOUGH SEE YOU NEXT TIME BYE BYE
< 1287880096 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This happens a few times each month for individual stocks now.
< 1287880113 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, remind me what a race condition is again.
< 1287880157 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A does B then C, but gets stopped before C, then A' does B' and C', then A does C not realising that B' and C' have been done
< 1287880160 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*?
< 1287880171 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically.
< 1287880181 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in the stock market?
< 1287880227 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh if only we were succeeding in holding things together :(
< 1287880239 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stock trader bot A does trades B then C, but gets stopped before C, then stock trader bot A' does trades B' and C', then A does C.
< 1287880263 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1287880273 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then
< 1287880275 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*?
< 1287880282 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effing question mark key...
< 1287880308 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then everything reacts and the stock goes on a freakish crash or rise before things stabilise.
< 1287880432 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And then, if you're not a big corporation, you get put in jail for life for terrorism.
< 1287880578 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder where that 30 trillion figure actually comes from...
< 1287880597 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 years ago.
< 1287880598 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1287880622 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices something
< 1287880641 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, even the WP article gives that as $3e10, not $3e13.
< 1287880650 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 30 billion, not trillion.
< 1287880688 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you read the original netcat C source, btw? I assume yes
< 1287880703 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That's odd.
< 1287880710 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: not all in one go but i've skimmed through all of it
< 1287880715 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg42775.html
< 1287880720 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: and made it compile on linux :P
< 1287880724 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my reaction to it :)
< 1287880724 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern linux
< 1287880739 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Ah, that's the total assets of DTCC, not the consolidated report on the holdings of them and their subsidiaries.
< 1287880740 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, that... changes things.
< 1287880740 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some great comments in there, iirc
< 1287880744 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enormously.
< 1287880748 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: he likes calling his structures and arguments "poop"
< 1287880751 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i support completely
< 1287880752 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, where's that figure?
< 1287880755 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: 2003 you sounds boring :P
< 1287880765 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dtcc.com/downloads/annuals/2009/dtcc_consolidated_2009.pdf
< 1287880783 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, that gives $4e10, not e13.
< 1287880802 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now rewrite netcat in Enhanced CWEB and without GNU long options
< 1287880816 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, so it does.
< 1287880817 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then compile it for the GameBoy
< 1287880821 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The figures are all in thousands of dollars for the assets.
< 1287880842 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000*4e7 = 4e10.
< 1287880845 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, then I don't know where the trillion number is coming from.
< 1287880849 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just joking about the GameBoy)
< 1287880899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it almost certainly should have that much, due to being the stock holder for nearly everything.
< 1287880944 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, verify it formally!
< 1287880949 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is fun to do I found
< 1287880958 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay would be horrible for socket code
< 1287880958 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Verify what formally?
< 1287880962 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well, you must admit, it still seems way too ludicrous to be completely true.
< 1287880967 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, the rewritten netcat
< 1287880975 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Buut they actually *do* hold all the stocks.
< 1287880982 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Which makes it *not ludicrous at all*.
< 1287880983 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, how do you verify that kind of thing formally?
< 1287880986 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verify it using what?
< 1287880991 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how?
< 1287880993 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yes, which is even more ludicrous.
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< 1287881008 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's a Federal Reserve regulation.
< 1287881011 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, coding in C? Frama-c is good then
< 1287881012 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even when this starts making some sense /it still makes no sense/.
< 1287881026 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for how, that is trickier
< 1287881033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The only thing that makes no sense here is how could people be this fucking *stupid*.
< 1287881034 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to take standard library as axioms
< 1287881043 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and find a set of properties you want to prove
< 1287881056 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, and how every share ever is worth only 30 billion dollars.
< 1287881060 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as "never reads invalid memory" or "always terminates" or whatever
< 1287881065 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFS more than that was given out during the bailout.
< 1287881077 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm suspecting they're not having to list shares as assets.
< 1287881079 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow.
< 1287881090 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if Frama-C is usable with things such as Enhanced CWEB?
< 1287881111 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, no clue, used it for straight C code that didn't do IO. And it is a lot of work anyway.
< 1287881115 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it display the line numbers in its error messages according to #line directives?
< 1287881115 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, that would seem the only even vaguely sane explanation, other than that they don't actually own the shares at all.
< 1287881128 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I have no idea
< 1287881146 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I used it on plain old C code, where it did a good job
< 1287881169 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:40:02 Now rewrite netcat in Enhanced CWEB and without GNU long options
< 1287881172 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :netcat doesn't use gnu long options.
< 1287881206 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with long options apart from that they are not standard
< 1287881297 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, FWIW, WP lists their total equity as $2e8, which is *peanuts* in finance.
< 1287881314 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't actually know what equity is here, so...
< 1287881445 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ming.tv/flemming2.php/__show_article/_a000010-000923.htm is the source of the tens of trillions in figures.
< 1287881512 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, I don't like long options. Is other people also don't like long options?
< 1287881527 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do process over a quadrillion dollars per year, though.
< 1287881552 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, now here we go
< 1287881558 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, ... I can't parse "Is other people also don't like long options?"
< 1287881581 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Why?
< 1287881591 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their annual report for 2009 has $3e13 as the value of securities held in custody.
< 1287881593 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, because it seems to be incorrect English?
< 1287881602 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, elliott is correct: netcat does not use getopt_long
< 1287881612 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, GNU netcat does, but that is not the original netcat
< 1287881623 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Found it. It's on page 14.
< 1287881675 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, of the consolidated statement or the annual report?
< 1287881690 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Erm, wait, that's not it. But yeah, consolidated.
< 1287881709 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Page *9* has the value from stocks.
< 1287881718 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, I hate PDFs with no text in them.
< 1287881749 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Maybe it is incorrect but it should be OK to read, isn't it? I believe you it doesn't use getopt_long but GNU netcat does. But still I don't like GNU long options. But many GNU programs are too much complicated more than it should be.
< 1287881761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"$40,232,000 [...] representing deposits received from participants to facilitate their compliance with customer protection rules of the SEC."
< 1287881767 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... No, that's not it.
< 1287881769 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAH.
< 1287881771 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I hate PDFs in general.
< 1287881774 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is hard to parse.
< 1287881775 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, the longest number I see on that page is 10 digits long.
< 1287881807 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yeah, this is very hard to find.
< 1287881842 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I suspect because "securities held in custody" \notin "assets".
< 1287881849 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1287881896 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just one example of GNU program too much complicated more than it should be, is that gettext is very large and internationalization.wi (a program for a similar purpose to gettext) is much smaller and more efficiently.
< 1287881900 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well *shrug* I was unable to parse that sentence above
< 1287881903 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever it meant
< 1287881964 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, so the world economy isn't quite as insane as we thought.
< 1287881974 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: But do you agree that a lot of GNU software packages are much larger and complicated than it should be?
< 1287881990 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that they can't do whatever they damn well please with $3e13 worth of shares.
< 1287881993 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, yes probably
< 1287882024 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :freebsd userland has a nice balance I feel
< 1287882052 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :between usability and minimalism
< 1287882076 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB118359867562957720-5Yb1Y_mpcl9a2nKbc0IaV0tDHyk_20070712.html This *claims* that the DTCC claims $36 trillion in securities.
< 1287882092 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm just having trouble finding better information.
< 1287882134 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some (not all) of the programs I have written can be used instead of some (but not all) of the other GNU program.
< 1287882141 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, again, I suspect this all stems from a mixup from the DTCC's annual report figures.
< 1287882158 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet, also, some software also has important features missing too, or bugs, or whatever.
< 1287882174 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you don't have to shout
< 1287882178 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" agree with you. YOU SHOULD NOT CHANGE THE BYTEPUSHER SPEC. YOU SHOULD NOT CHANGE THE BYTEPUSHER SPEC. YOU SHOULD NOT CHANGE THE BYTEPUSHER SPEC."
< 1287882181 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*"I
< 1287882181 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1287882202 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course they want you to mislead yourself into thinking they have half the world's GDP in assets; they are, after all, out to get money.
< 1287882217 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's debatable, but it still does them no harm.
< 1287882222 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I wrote it in uppercase three times simply because of like other comment.
< 1287882241 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah :D
< 1287882244 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't see that
< 1287882288 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHH it'soneo'clock/me→sleep
< 1287882328 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ...
< 1287882332 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you are such a fucking lightweight.
< 1287882346 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/23/business/media/23williams.html?_r=2&ref=business <-- my guy doesn't even appear halp
< 1287882349 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with websplat
< 1287882479 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lastly, DTCC’s depository
< 1287882481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the largest securities depository in the world, providing custody and asset servicing for
< 1287882483 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.5 million securities issues from the United States and 110 other countries and territories
< 1287882486 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :valued at $30 trillion.
< 1287882488 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"
< 1287882502 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is the copy of internationalization.wi file: http://sprunge.us/MbML Now you can see that it is clearly much more smaller and more efficient than GNU gettext?
< 1287882503 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Wowwtf, somehow it managed to put things in front of my image with z-index 1,000,000 ...
< 1287882510 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: :D
< 1287882525 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I can clearly not see it is more efficient; I have no idea how GNU gettext is implemented.
< 1287882528 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And more code != more efficient.
< 1287882529 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Larry E. Thompson, General Counsel for DTCC, before the Subcommittee on Capital Markets, Insurance, and Government Sponsored Enterprises. June 9 2009.
< 1287882539 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hearing on "Effective Regulation of the Over-the-Counter Derivatives Markets”
< 1287882557 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1287882559 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :body > img {display:none;}
< 1287882560 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO PUTS THIS IN THEIR CSS
< 1287882562 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO I ASK YOU
< 1287882563 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO
< 1287882577 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gettext.git/tree/
< 1287882587 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://graphics8.nytimes.com/css/0.1/screen/common/global.css <-- observe the lunacy
< 1287882602 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not about to read the entire GNU gettext implementation.
< 1287882611 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But, but Khoi Vinh.
< 1287882612 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/financialsvcs_dem/larry_thompson.pdf
< 1287882621 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly he probably didn't write that CSS.
< 1287882627 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a citation and it's under threat of perjury!
< 1287882666 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's ... really annoying. Fixable, but WTFWTFWTF.
< 1287882674 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the kind of corner case I really don't want X-D
< 1287882690 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corner case: Some lunatic decided to set all images to display:none
< 1287882778 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Even if you just look through a few of the directories and see how many lines are in some of the files, look at the documentation of how many things are required to install it, and compare with my program, you will see that my program should work better.
< 1287882789 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't see that it is more efficient.
< 1287882794 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots and lots of code goes to making things run fast.
< 1287882910 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: In my program, there is no gettext() call or anything like that, all internationalized strings are accessed through an array with a constant index, so no function calls are needed.
< 1287882924 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: And it also can't switch language at runtime.
< 1287882927 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only compile-time.
< 1287882932 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is kind of sort of entirely a deal breaker.
< 1287882938 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I remember, GNU gettext is actually quite sane
< 1287882945 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for being GNU that is
< 1287882950 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That defeats the whole purpose of gettext...
< 1287882962 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you type something like intl("Hello, World!") it will compile it to something like intl_strings[0]
< 1287882967 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yeah. It fetches a translated string from a message file, and that's it. Quite reasonable.
< 1287882973 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh.
< 1287882977 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you use dlopen?
< 1287882980 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, the API is a quite sane as well
< 1287882982 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To initialise intl_strings at startup?
< 1287882983 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please say yes.
< 1287882985 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please say yes.
< 1287882985 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please say yes.
< 1287882985 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please say yes.
< 1287882995 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: And my program can switch language at runtime, using the load_language_file() function.
< 1287883009 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you do it the boring way.
< 1287883014 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: wait, how does it compile intl("string") to that?
< 1287883015 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't use dlopen but perhaps I can change that if necessary
< 1287883016 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :preprocessor?
< 1287883041 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh, so you are essentially... Reïmplementing GNU gettext the precise same way.
< 1287883047 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the program. It is only 190 lines long
< 1287883063 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That will show you how it compiles intl("string") into that.
< 1287883108 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Can I have a PDF version? I don't have Enhanced CWEB and I can't really read the raw source, since I haven't used it before.
< 1287883131 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simply type @i internationalization.wi into your program, and it will generate "default.lang" and do everything else at compile time.
< 1287883139 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK. I will generate a PDF for you now
< 1287883142 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks.
< 1287883148 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1287883157 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287883164 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wait one minute.
< 1287883175 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a long time for generating a pdf
< 1287883254 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/misc/intl.pdf
< 1287883319 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't think C guarantees "internationalization.h" will work
< 1287883325 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: isn't there some uniqueness limit to header names?
< 1287883326 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, "◦200"?
< 1287883403 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That means it is octal number
< 1287883411 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, not in standard C
< 1287883418 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes this harder to read
< 1287883438 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Are you sure it won't work?
< 1287883438 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Probably.
< 1287883448 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think it's guaranteed to work. Read the C standard, I guess.
< 1287883466 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It is meant to be typeset as a book, it is not meant to be typeset as a C code.
< 1287883493 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "intl$()" -- what is $ here?
< 1287883503 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well, personally I would find it easier to read C code if it looked like C code would look in my emacs session!
< 1287883514 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The $ is a part of the identifier.
< 1287883518 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm
< 1287883519 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*zzo38:
< 1287883521 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why are you asking ais523
< 1287883524 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is that valid in C?
< 1287883539 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no it isn't afaik
< 1287883565 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: A dollar sign is valid part of the identifier on some platforms. However, since it is inside of a @{ ... @} block, it doesn't need to be valid on the platform you are compiling on, it only needs to be valid in the C interpreter used with Enhanced CWEB.
< 1287883577 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's a macro?
< 1287883587 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So where's the actual intl macro? Or is that "intl$"?
< 1287883592 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems so.
< 1287883600 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: If you want to see the C codes, look at the http://sprunge.us/MbML file.
< 1287883622 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, ... that isn't C
< 1287883633 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: So is intl$ the intl macro?
< 1287883636 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, that is ecweb which I can't read
< 1287883642 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The intl$() function programs what Enhanced CWEB will do when the identifier "intl" is processed.
< 1287883646 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1287883673 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I want to see C as it would be sent to the C preprocessor of the C compiler
< 1287883673 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The file includes C codes in some parts.
< 1287883697 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :My life with you, Meredith. That's the real hell. | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D
< 1287883724 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The codes inside of @{ ... @} are never sent to the C compiler. Also, the codes sent to the C compiler are not indented and have no explanations.
< 1287883758 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, so... this intel stuff needs the program to be processed with cweb to work?
< 1287883765 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't work on plain old C code?
< 1287883839 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, it does need the program to be processed with Enhanced CWEB to work. (If you want, it is possible to write a Enhanced CWEB file in a linear form without explanations if you find it necessary, but doing this would be no good.)
< 1287883868 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, so it is basically useless to most people compared to gettext...
< 1287883877 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, it won't work for C++ for example
< 1287883918 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It will work with C++. Enhanced CWEB can be used with C++ as well, it is not limited to only C.
< 1287883930 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm
< 1287883946 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, still it seems quite a pain compared to plain old gettext
< 1287883967 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can use it with C++ by using the file called "_cplusplus.wi")
< 1287884050 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, gettext has bindings for lots of other languages like python and perl
< 1287884059 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, your stuff won't work with those
< 1287884066 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, they use wrap the C API there
< 1287884076 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your stuff will not be possible to wrap like that
< 1287884089 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In C, does ++awesome++ set awesome to awesome+2 and return awesome+1?
< 1287884103 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, undefined
< 1287884103 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That is OK, you can have different opinion, is OK. But remember that even GNU gettext requires a bunch of other programs to cause it to work, but I suppose GNU gettext can be used for unliterate programming. (Or even non-C programs)
< 1287884120 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah
< 1287884143 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, yes the message extracting code is easy enough to extend to new languages
< 1287884145 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: apparently the pre++ gets associated first
< 1287884157 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No sequence point, though.
< 1287884160 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, *the behaviour of that code is undefined*
< 1287884190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It would be valid for the compiler to destroy the universe.
< 1287884223 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a better solution would be to error out IMO
< 1287884233 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: if the post++ were associated first, then it would be ++(awesome++), and the part in brackets is a valid rvalue, right? so what's the sequence point issue?
< 1287884250 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, ++(awesome++) *IS ALSO UNDEFINED*
< 1287884251 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are correct my program will not be possible to wrap like that. You can do things such as write a similar program that is *designed* for other program languages. (I am not sure exactly how except in Forth, however)
< 1287884259 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, you have no sequence point in between!
< 1287884261 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Two modifications of a variable with no sequence point between them is undefined behavior.
< 1287884264 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :explain to me so i may learn why
< 1287884275 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: And as such, it would be valid for the compiler to do anything at all.
< 1287884359 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I'll let pikhq do the explaining
< 1287884405 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: C allows for a class of behavior called "undefined behavior". When the behavior of any particular operation in C is undefined, it is entirely valid for a conforming implementation to do *anything*.
< 1287884421 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: This is primarily for the purpose of allowing fast implementations.
< 1287884424 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'awwwww, Bing's infamous background image isn't an :P
< 1287884449 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: gcc throws an error, but it doesn't explain any of this. thanks for your help.
< 1287884453 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It also allows for implementations to completely *ignore* bizarre edge cases of an architecture.
< 1287884490 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why, for instance, dereferencing NULL on Linux crashes but gets you random memory on DOS.
< 1287884627 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, as to when it comes to defining what _exactly_ a sequence point is, I defer to the C standard. I have a "gut feeling" but I don't remember the exact wording. If/when I need that I just go check the C standard
< 1287884657 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly the comma operator counts as one
< 1287884663 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with basically no other effect
< 1287884675 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, when did you last use the comma operator?
< 1287884693 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I only think I used it once or twice
< 1287884703 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Last time I raped the C compiler into submission.
< 1287884714 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, which was?
< 1287884724 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a year ago, I think.
< 1287884728 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1287884739 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you remember for what?
< 1287884743 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope!
< 1287884754 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it is one of those features you almost never use.
< 1287884919 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone needs to come up with a programming language based on cuil theory
< 1287884971 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, what is cuil theory?
< 1287885026 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used comma operator with 'for'
< 1287885040 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cuiltheory.wikidot.com/
< 1287885042 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm seems reasonable
< 1287885050 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a crazy piece of work coming from reddit
< 1287885054 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very amusing
< 1287885137 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cuils are commutative
< 1287885147 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in multiplication)
< 1287885160 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, is what it says there.
< 1287885380 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiplication has no semantic meaning as yet
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< 1287885503 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wonderful. Republicans are running ads urging Latino voters to not vote. Classy.
< 1287885519 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" front group called Latinos for Reform is running a 60-second advertisement on Nevada TV that urges Latinos not to vote in the upcoming mid-term election, saying it is the way to punish Democrats for failing to enact immigration reform within the first years of Barack Obama's presidency."
< 1287885538 0 :comex!~comex@comex.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287885551 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latinos for Reform is, as one might expect, funded by the RNC.
< 1287885929 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl
< 1287885939 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Punish them by assuring the election of people who can more effectively kick you out :P
< 1287885975 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup.
< 1287886113 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you have (pi/2-2i) cuil?
< 1287886176 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if you define it
< 1287886225 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's how it works. OK
< 1287886260 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1287886290 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, as yet, there is no such thing as imaginary cuil
< 1287886312 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, since cuil is sort of a measure of realness or imaginariness...
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< 1287886710 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If interrobang indicates units, then multiplication would make square cuil. (But, it doesn't seem to be units, or anything else consistently mathematically as far as I can tell from documentation and forums.)
< 1287886756 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1287886763 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you can't add or multiply degrees Celsius, that doesn't make sense.
< 1287886922 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mr. Profiler says: 17% of my time is spent by sprites deciding whether they're on screen or not.
< 1287887140 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, the degree Celsius is really not much of a unit. It's a scale based around the Kelvin unit.
< 1287887156 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which happens to be offset from 0K by 273.15K.
< 1287887162 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POLL: Raise your hand if you would sit in a hot tub naked with several other naked strangers of both genders
< 1287887168 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION raises hand
< 1287887190 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stfu
< 1287887207 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a serious question
< 1287887217 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've just been informed that most of the population wouldn't
< 1287887230 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody cares
< 1287887231 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think you are confirming this
< 1287887243 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong.
< 1287887251 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, maybe it is that no one cares
< 1287887255 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It's... Fundamentally not a big deal.
< 1287887256 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raise your hand if you wouldn't
< 1287887270 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Like, I seriously don't give a fuck. Also, nudity taboos are stupid.
< 1287887321 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nudity: That's right kids, it's worse than violence! (Just look at our rating systems)
< 1287887344 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Only in the US. :)
< 1287887367 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i thought maybe it had something to do with the idea that people are so self-conscious about their bodies
< 1287887375 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than taboos
< 1287887379 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would not sit in a hot tub with anyone, whether naked or not, and regardless of gender. (Actually, I don't sit in a hot tub at all.)
< 1287887420 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to tell you: I don't like pornography, but I am not everyone. Different people should be allowed to have their own opinion.
< 1287887427 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that is what my opinion is.
< 1287887454 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nudity = pornography!
< 1287887529 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone likes to watch pornography then maybe they should do so, but you shouldn't force other people who don't like pornography (such as myself) to watch pornography.
< 1287887530 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And would you *look* at her ankles. The harlot!
< 1287887531 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK?
< 1287887541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Aaaw.
< 1287887550 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts away the forced-viewing rig
< 1287887596 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God dammit Lucas.
< 1287887605 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's making *another* Star Wars trilogy.
< 1287887607 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POLL: Raise your hand if you are unable to raise your hand, please.
< 1287887611 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1287887615 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myth
< 1287887616 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION raises hand
< 1287887621 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rumour
< 1287887628 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :false
< 1287887634 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :denied.
< 1287887644 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, good. I can put away the tar and feathers.
< 1287887710 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MORE POLL: How much garlic do you put in your tomato sauce? (y/n)
< 1287887724 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyyyy
< 1287887734 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyyyy
< 1287887750 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Garlic is the secret to deliciousness.
< 1287887752 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many 'y's before it's "garlic sauce with tomato"
< 1287887755 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cuz that's what I make :P
< 1287887757 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ynynynnyn
< 1287887762 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: :D
< 1287887830 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: O, I didn't know that.
< 1287887919 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1287887958 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooked up an external monitor, speakers, mouse, and keyboard to my notebook
< 1287887969 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The keyboard's crap :(
< 1287888007 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Make another one!
< 1287888008 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
< 1287888044 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wot is FreenodeBot?
< 1287888084 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know?
< 1287888197 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do 10 year old speakers > netbook speakers?
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< 1287888374 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1287888399 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want to win a big spider three times as big as you, or four times as big as you, or five times as big as you? (No cheating and writing "three and a half times" as your answer, please!)
< 1287888459 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does some MP3 files it says is 2:20 length but actually the audio goes on longer than that?
< 1287888590 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The MP3 spec is poorly designed.
< 1287888612 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it's encoded by LAME, there's no way of knowing the exact duration, just estimating it.
< 1287888612 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorbis is better
< 1287888839 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says 2:57 but it is actually 4:19
< 1287888856 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some MP3 files do that it says the wrong time like that
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< 1287888930 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Opera, quit feasdf
< 1287888934 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Fuck this keyboiard
< 1287889270 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I ask many questions is that I can write a report about literate programming systems, but if I write it only by myself it will be biased, therefore it must be written by many people.
< 1287889364 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1287889405 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is the point of literate programming?
< 1287889450 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: There is many point depending what you are doing. The main point is that you can write a book of your program. It is both a book and a computer program. But you can do other things too.
< 1287889477 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ii'm interested in your take on that
< 1287889490 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1287889494 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other things?
< 1287889596 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I so good at making Chrome crash X_X
< 1287889601 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other things are dependent on opinion and on the system you are using, but here are some: You can define the chunks in any order and group them in chapters rather than the order it needs to be compiled. You can make it one file instead of the header file separate. You can typeset mathematics.
< 1287889602 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's crashing more than Firefox for me.
< 1287889637 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why would you make this "book" thing?
< 1287889643 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRT with higher resolution > LCD with lower resolution?
< 1287889654 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Enhanced CWEB, you can also use characters in identifiers that are not normally allowed in identifiers, you can make @{ ... @} blocks that interpret stuff before compiling, and more.
< 1287889693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Actually, CRT > LCD in general, if video quality is your sole criterion.
< 1287889710 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CRT in question is possibly over a decade old
< 1287889728 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might still be true.
< 1287889732 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And last I tried it, many years ago, it stopped working
< 1287889744 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it might break this table
< 1287889757 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: There are many possible reasons why. For example, to describe the algorithms of the program. Or, when you are making a algorithm, make the book describing it also a computer program; it might make some ambiguous things understandable and can also run the algorithm by computer!
< 1287889773 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are other reasons you might write a book of the program, too.
< 1287889786 0 :FreenodeBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1287889806 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sold.
< 1287889812 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see little benefit over doxygen.
< 1287889834 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doxygen isn't necessarily literate programming, is it?
< 1287889850 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are correct.
< 1287889904 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doxygen is a documentation generator. Some literate programming systems can do that too.
< 1287889960 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no benefit
< 1287890002 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literate programming is something different!
< 1287890068 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And literate programming systems may allow you to do different stuff, too! Also, a literate programming system will generally create a table of contents of the program, and an index of all identifiers and other things.
< 1287890092 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you read Computers and Typesetting Volume B? And Volume D?
< 1287890109 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those volumes were written using Pascal WEB.
< 1287890140 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're listing all things that can be done by doxygen
< 1287890162 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1287890165 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you also say "it can do other things" but you don't go into any real-world useful examples of such
< 1287890190 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does doxygen do prettyprinting programs and rearranging chunks?
< 1287890212 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1287890240 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get a table of contents, you get nice html listings with colors etc
< 1287890315 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, if you write { @; @; @; } will it compile with the definitions for those things included and add cross-references to where they are defined, in the printout?
< 1287890388 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see a example screenshot of a Doxygen file on Wikipedia. They don't describe the implementation and algorithms used. Literate programming describes the implementation and algorithms used.
< 1287890393 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF!
< 1287890401 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google not accepting my password
< 1287890442 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is a program I wrote implementing BytePusher VM, so that you can see one kind of literate programming: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/prog/BytePusher/BytePusher.w
< 1287890491 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was fucked! wow! i got real scared
< 1287890498 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sorry a bit defocused here
< 1287890505 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, reading now
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< 1287890561 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: doxygen has a description field for every object that is documented by it
< 1287890570 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you are free to explain your algorithm there
< 1287890570 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See you can combine TeX codes and C codes together.
< 1287890624 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tex is not usually necessary for code documentation.
< 1287890695 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: I suppose you can do that. But literate programming generally explains the algorithm by typesetting your codes using mathematical symbols and cross-references and things. Literate programming is not the same as code documentation; it is something quite different. See the part @ in the BytePusher VM program.
< 1287890744 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't contain any C codes other than for(;;) but the names inside that loop will be typesetting with cross-references so that you can look at the algorithms in more detail; the for(;;) is also typeset.
< 1287890777 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's a real-world use case where LP is necessary and the need is not fullfilled by doxygen?
< 1287890786 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking for an answer of the form:
< 1287890808 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you are in the office and your manager orders you to do X. This is much easier thanks to literate programming, which does Y"
< 1287890900 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X="writing a book about this algorithm and implementing it on the computer". Y="allows rearranging chunking and typesetting the code for the algorithm (using mathematical symbols) and the explanations you have provided".
< 1287890930 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1287890988 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, sorry. I have never heard of literate programming being used in an office; usually they are things people do by themself.
< 1287890988 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to sound too negative, but X never happens outside of academia, and academic interest out of academic interest is not a real-world situation
< 1287891046 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :algorithms that came from academia are used real world all the time
< 1287891048 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literate programming can also make the program easier to understand. Write it as you would write a book.
< 1287891056 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and before the real world knows about them, they have to be published
< 1287891195 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I make a new algorithm, I will use Enhanced CWEB to write it. In some cases the algorithm can be useful as a standalone program, such as compress files, or encrypt files.
< 1287891342 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never found books to be simpler to understand than hypertext
< 1287891352 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all about non-linear media
< 1287891429 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These kind of books are like hypertext; they contain cross-references to everything. And you can have it that when viewed by computer screen, you can click on them to follow the cross-reference, if you want to.
< 1287891445 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the best quality is as a book printed by laser printer.
< 1287891528 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An example of one of the advanced features of Enhanced CWEB can be found in this program http://sprunge.us/MbML
< 1287891834 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made the collision detection much faster, at the cost of an awesome and/or terrible bug when you get killed.
< 1287891842 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you get killed now, you go F***ING FLYING
< 1287891847 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually in a nonsense direction.
< 1287892132 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn ... that should have been an enormous speed improvements, and instead it makes almost no difference >_>
< 1287892372 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lulz
< 1287892400 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i'm looking through byte pusher
< 1287892414 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must say i really really dislike the syntax
< 1287892438 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BytePusher ... has syntax?
< 1287892455 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1287892538 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how cute of you to care enough to still be a little contrary to what i say
< 1287892548 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the highest level language existing for assembling for BytePusher?
< 1287892551 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: The syntax of Enhanced CWEB, do you mean? (It is much neater when typeset)
< 1287892562 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes
< 1287892579 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it takes extra brain power to look past those ugly tags
< 1287892588 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't know. You can do it in Python and stuff like that, but they aren't meant for assembling for BytePusher. The only programming language that is meant for assembling for BytePusher is PUSHEM.
< 1287892597 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Feel free to invent your own if you want to)
< 1287892616 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: I can post a DVI file or PDF file if you want to see the typeset program.
< 1287892631 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can easily imagine how it would look
< 1287892633 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but feel free
< 1287892642 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is i'm not editing the dvi
< 1287892647 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm editing the ugly code
< 1287892658 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: The DVI file is in BytePusher.zip (in the same directory)
< 1287892676 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BytePusher.zip also has Windows executables)
< 1287892700 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only do linux right now for the desktop
< 1287892708 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: Use a GUI if you want; but I find editing it using the plain text file provides more control.
< 1287892719 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program works on Linux, too.
< 1287892720 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pain
< 1287892750 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, let's see about that dvi
< 1287892800 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will need the WEBMATH fonts: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/cweb/webmath.zip (compile the fonts according to your laser printer)
< 1287892885 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, those dvi's look pretty much like what i expected them to
< 1287892889 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no surprise there
< 1287892899 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still see little benefit
< 1287892926 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess if you're writing a paper, ok
< 1287892944 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but other than that, i don't see any reason to use it in a program that is not a research project
< 1287893078 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: Well, that is OK. I suppose it can depend on your opinion. Different people have different opinions of literate programming, and that is OK.
< 1287893194 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to (try to) change my opinion
< 1287893248 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Donald Knuth used literate programming to write TeX.
< 1287893264 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a /really/ poor argument :P
< 1287893273 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Donald Knuth: Not a typical programmer.
< 1287893305 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok
< 1287893316 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with gregor on that one
< 1287893367 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I understand. I think I am not a typical programmer either, many of my things have many different opinions from other people and there are things many different from other programs.
< 1287893390 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say literate programming *can* offer a decent benefit if used well. But that Donald Knuth used it is really not much of an argument. :)
< 1287893414 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than illiterate programming
< 1287893445 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not too worried about offending anyone. No one reading this will be offended.
< 1287893463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>
< 1287893465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_<
< 1287893466 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mother.
< 1287893472 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You are right that it is not much of an argument.
< 1287893525 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh
< 1287893526 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally
< 1287893529 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lyah is fixed
< 1287893534 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed/
< 1287893536 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Howso?
< 1287893539 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was broken?
< 1287893543 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stopped learning haskell until he fixed his css markup
< 1287893561 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the listings would be white on white and in browsers that parsed his css at all some parts would be invisible
< 1287893565 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have sent him fixes
< 1287893572 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh
< 1287893576 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :took a looong time to happen though (why? it's a simple edit)
< 1287893580 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are now chapters on monads!
< 1287893582 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the take' function
< 1287893586 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now when will there be stuff about zippers/
< 1287893591 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were problems and you couldn't see the underscore
< 1287893592 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zippers _STILL_ confuse me
< 1287893593 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah nice
< 1287893596 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1287893603 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering when he'd do monads
< 1287893609 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wind, wind, in the air... Don't be afraid to care." Aaaah, how I love Pink Floyd.
< 1287893671 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course there are many different opinions of literate programming. (Some people prefer to write it linearly, such as Literate Haskell. But other people like it differently. Enhanced CWEB *can* be used to write linearly like that if you want (just use '@*' and '@ ' and '@c'), but only linearly like that misses one important point of literate programming, in my opinion.)
< 1287894115 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how you said "some people" rather "some of its users"
< 1287894127 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might go further and say "some of you prefer to write it linearly"
< 1287894144 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be understandably amusing :)
< 1287894352 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back
< 1287894380 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: psht, that's not even the best pink floyd lyric with "air" in it! shameful.
< 1287894397 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Overhead the albatross hangs motionless upon the air)
< 1287894501 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: please tell me it still flies
< 1287894555 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I had to abandon that series of changes entirely, that was the LEAST of its bugs, and it didn't actually improve speed at all.
< 1287894560 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ;_;
< 1287894568 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Re-introduce the insane nonsense flying thing.
< 1287894577 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It is (1) awesome, (2) hilarious and (3) justifiable with plot.
< 1287894590 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do it with just one of the enemies :P
< 1287894591 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have a jetpack attached to you so that if you are ever compromised, the enemies can't scan your neurons!"
< 1287894600 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They'll never even GET to your body!"
< 1287894611 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is automatically activated."
< 1287894611 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1287894613 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that
< 1287894639 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i liked more was the spinning disc thing in the diamond age
< 1287894647 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if you guys have read the book
< 1287894663 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the scene at the molo was my favourite out of the book probably
< 1287894702 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I guess it isn't fair though because Echoes is pretty much the best song ever.
< 1287894707 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Was that emphasis or pun?
< 1287894719 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Emphasis, you dork.
< 1287894731 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: For not making it a pun, YOU LOSE.
< 1287894904 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's the start of a good album though.
< 1287894916 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also, I need to get more of their discography. Really really do.
< 1287894922 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, yes. Meddle itself is rather poor and really there's no point in it apart from Echoes.
< 1287894936 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, you could put Echoes at the end of a Britney Spears album and it'd be the best album ever.
< 1287894944 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah.
< 1287894958 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just got to say I love Dark Side of the Moon.
< 1287895013 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, elliott, pikhq, all of us, time for EPIC HAVENWORKS WEBSPLAT BATTLE
< 1287895022 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever gets the most images wins. Lowest time is for GLORY AND HONOR
< 1287895035 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: If you don't have Meddle, rundown: odd instrumental thing, soft acoustic boring-as-hell love song (not joking), FOOTBALL FANBOY SONG INCLUDING LIVERPOOL FANS SINGING "YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE", a tropical jazzy song (NOT JOKING), a song where a dog sings the "lyrics", and Echoes.
< 1287895047 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I will totally do that in one minute.
< 1287895074 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I find it amusing that "You'll Never Walk Alone" is a Liverpool football thing.
< 1287895080 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The lyrics like, do not fit at all.
< 1287895087 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor does the music.
< 1287895091 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's *football*; you can't expect intelligence.
< 1287895101 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But yeah terrible side 1, amazing side 2 (because the entirety of side 2 is just Echoes).
< 1287895118 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still. "When you walk through a storm, hold your head up high, and don't be afraid in the dark"?
< 1287895119 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :?
< 1287895122 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hell?
< 1287895122 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287895125 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hell?
< 1287895130 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Footballing in a storm.
< 1287895135 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A really big pitch so they're just walking, not running.
< 1287895137 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it is night time.
< 1287895144 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? Perfectly logical.
< 1287895148 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1287895155 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME
< 1287895162 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you obviously know nothing at all about football fans in the 80s
< 1287895166 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wait, wait, we need to standardise on a window size for this.
< 1287895166 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: educate yourself
< 1287895168 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well. Width.
< 1287895171 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wait, do we?
< 1287895173 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No we don't.
< 1287895180 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, no.
< 1287895183 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for this page.
< 1287895185 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For other pages, yes.
< 1287895188 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We would have in the past.
< 1287895188 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: british football club fans were really violent
< 1287895192 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Not since scrolling.
< 1287895198 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I'm starting now
< 1287895199 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much that britain would get disqualified from cups
< 1287895199 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now.
< 1287895200 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Elements can be 100% width.
< 1287895210 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to stop the fans from coming
< 1287895216 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Which means window size can be relevant. But OK, starting now.
< 1287895226 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99, pikhq: JOIN US in epic HAVENWORKS WEBSPLAT
< 1287895228 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the song resonates with group violence
< 1287895234 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: OK how does it work?
< 1287895254 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: ... How?
< 1287895260 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: Seriously, what the hell?
< 1287895265 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: 1) Go to http://codu.org/websplat/ and add the link to your bookmarks bar like it says. 2) Go to http://www.havenworks.com/ , wait (eternally) for it to load, then play websplat on that page!
< 1287895277 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you're not european are you?
< 1287895298 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: Nope!
< 1287895303 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1287895308 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't exist in merica
< 1287895312 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically
< 1287895318 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: Be amazed that I even knew the song "You'll Never Walk Alone" and that it's a Liverpool football thing!
< 1287895334 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite often in europe a sports match (most often football) is just a pretext to go and beat people up
< 1287895346 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... Fucking retarded.
< 1287895347 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have fanclubs beating other fan clubs
< 1287895355 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll set up before the match
< 1287895357 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I say this as a man living in the same country with Palin.
< 1287895360 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH I suck at this game apparently X-D
< 1287895365 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :181@153D
< 1287895366 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes they take chains, hammers, axes with them
< 1287895368 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no joke
< 1287895378 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :knives aren't too common though
< 1287895378 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I captured more than two images per second :P
< 1287895383 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're starting to make the GOP look intelligent.
< 1287895414 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, honestly, is an astounding feat. They'd like the government to keep its hands off their Medicare.
< 1287895468 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 309@487D
< 1287895477 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :REMATCH
< 1287895480 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's the highest image count so far.
< 1287895481 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew.
< 1287895494 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does gop stand for?
< 1287895500 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I have to say, I would appreciate an ability to look up/left/right/down a certain amount, like in some platformer games.
< 1287895509 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jumping down is very risky as it stands.
< 1287895531 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Uhhh, no, I got 428 one time.
< 1287895536 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't google right now
< 1287895543 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Jew magic.
< 1287895545 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No at that being the highest image count so far that is)
< 1287895551 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oct 23 17:37:58 428@1105D
< 1287895552 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you're a jew.
< 1287895553 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what makes you die?
< 1287895559 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: "Grand Old Party". It refers to the Republicans.
< 1287895559 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you used evil magic.
< 1287895561 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Okay rematching.
< 1287895567 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: Goombas
< 1287895573 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: Ironically, they are the *younger* of the two major political parties in the US.
< 1287895724 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 169@271D fuck fuck fuck
< 1287895732 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: get rid of enemies plz
< 1287895736 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Still goin' strong 8-D
< 1287895738 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NOWAI
< 1287895744 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: this game is awesome
< 1287895746 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously
< 1287895752 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like havenworks was designed for it
< 1287895757 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably a bit of the other way around :P)
< 1287895760 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just died on havenworks at 370 :/
< 1287895775 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :370???
< 1287895777 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in 370 images?
< 1287895785 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1287895800 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome tip: don't refresh, open a new tab and close the old one
< 1287895802 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a manual GC
< 1287895803 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not joking)
< 1287895810 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it lagggs
< 1287895845 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's loooooooooooooadiiiiiiiiiiiiiing
< 1287895877 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'm restarting now.
< 1287895884 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most annoying thing is not being aable to pass into the left side of a left-aligned paragraph even after double-jumping
< 1287895887 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i suppose that's fair
< 1287895890 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at 344, still goin :)
< 1287895921 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loooooooadinggggggggggggggg
< 1287895935 0 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287895951 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loading takes what, one minute?
< 1287895952 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, i got the status display
< 1287895959 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 minutes here already
< 1287895967 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
< 1287895969 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :364@707D
< 1287895987 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the D?
< 1287896005 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: @{D for died, W for won}
< 1287896018 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: If it's reaaally not loading, you may just want to try again :P
< 1287896037 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries again.
< 1287896044 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's more like ten minutes to load
< 1287896067 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need to include image numbers when you won :P
< 1287896070 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should take a while to load on havenworks (thousands of images to locate, lots of shit to do ...), but not ten minutes.
< 1287896082 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i'm thinking that turn{Dimages|W} is better
< 1287896084 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g.
< 1287896085 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yours would be
< 1287896089 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :707D364
< 1287896093 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a winner would be
< 1287896095 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :289572349874892789749827349W
< 1287896098 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but dunno
< 1287896102 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's a bit hard to see
< 1287896109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: anyway you know that havenworks logo in the top-left corner? well
< 1287896111 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the @ does help
< 1287896112 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the first column
< 1287896113 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the actual page
< 1287896114 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked the original format.
< 1287896116 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, well
< 1287896116 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm aware of it.
< 1287896120 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the favicon enemy
< 1287896122 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is right on top of it
< 1287896123 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOLIMFUCKED
< 1287896130 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can jump above the screen ;)
< 1287896130 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'luck
< 1287896134 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that one
< 1287896137 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one below that
< 1287896140 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first column of the actual page :P
< 1287896142 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also think the image count should be included with win. It's redundant, but convenient.
< 1287896144 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not that fucked, just amusing
< 1287896148 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two icons are fucking. Truth.
< 1287896174 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it would be nice to have a faster computer
< 1287896180 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this centrino is killing me.
< 1287896220 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :98@236D I'm laaaame
< 1287896231 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: If you're using FF, you should REAAAALLY be using Chrome for HavenWorks :P
< 1287896318 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BACK INTO THE FRAY
< 1287896321 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: X_X I just fell down so much
< 1287896327 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will have to climb back all the way.
< 1287896331 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Have fun getting back up ^^
< 1287896353 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I actually killed an enemy on the way down, so close.
< 1287896362 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha
< 1287896365 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: FUCKING JUMP 1PX TOO HIGH
< 1287896370 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 354@697D
< 1287896377 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^
< 1287896387 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This game is liquid evil.
< 1287896440 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/66UQx.jpg
< 1287896443 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out i'm one pixel taller than i thought
< 1287896464 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed standing still by an enemy supposedly above me
< 1287896465 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's the damn hat
< 1287896490 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: they should knock the hat off instead :/
< 1287896502 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1287896503 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes yes yes
< 1287896504 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES
< 1287896509 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: This is your life's achievement so far.
< 1287896515 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You're gonna have to try REALLY DAMN HARD to top this.
< 1287896525 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh goody :P
< 1287896535 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Okay, time to play again.
< 1287896536 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
< 1287896538 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg it updated
< 1287896539 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an icon changed
< 1287896540 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe?
< 1287896541 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ior just keep making it better. that would top it.
< 1287896541 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"WORLD"
< 1287896546 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :third column... or fourth
< 1287896551 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm putting that quote on its homepage :P
< 1287896566 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You're welcome :P
< 1287896585 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It may be worth considering bringing the game to perfection and then committing suicide so that you don't soil your reputation.
< 1287896632 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: if i animate him bending over to pick up his hat, will you make it so an enemy touching the top two px triggers it?
< 1287896646 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and freeze player while that happens of course)
< 1287896669 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the game will NEVAR BE PERFECT
< 1287896672 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It'll be more than two px, but yes.
< 1287896677 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll just keep coming up with ways to make it better
< 1287896679 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOREVER
< 1287896687 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Remember you have to animate the hat falling off in both directions, and grabbing it in both directions.
< 1287896688 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day
< 1287896692 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the web will be outdated and archaic
< 1287896699 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody will use it for anything
< 1287896700 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except this
< 1287896709 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people will make whole fake websites just to have new levels to play it on
< 1287896716 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :web design will go far beyond what we consider excellent today
< 1287896718 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all for websplat.
< 1287896735 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MegaOS 9 will run chrome in a linux vm
< 1287896736 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: or i could just animate the hat coming off in both directions. he'd have to turn around to pick it up behind him anyway.
< 1287896736 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to play it
< 1287896742 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chrome will still be maintained as the platform for the game
< 1287896746 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Sure.
< 1287896766 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, back to the game ...
< 1287896845 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had three almost-deaths now *breathes heavily*
< 1287896989 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1287897026 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend of mine tied my 428!
< 1287897044 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now he's at 481 nooooes
< 1287897077 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :481@1310 he says
< 1287897082 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: LOL HUGE FALL AGAIN
< 1287897213 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 449@1086D
< 1287897227 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Dude, you need to offer a cash prize for completing this.
< 1287897248 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I mean, your friend has just pushed the closest score to 37%.
< 1287897251 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is *insanely* difficult. :P
< 1287897255 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't verify that they're not lying.
< 1287897271 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Are they the lying sort?
< 1287897279 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonono, not my friend.
< 1287897287 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if I posted a cash prize, it'd have to be just amongst us :P
< 1287897290 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making it near-pointless.
< 1287897306 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Not near-pointless imo >:D
< 1287897317 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And ehh... you could do some freaky standalone-program thing that's all obfuscated and encryptd.
< 1287897319 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*encrypted.
< 1287897322 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT YEAH GIMME MONEY
< 1287897430 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'm having a few minutes break, feel free to try and beat anyone's record :P
< 1287897507 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But seriously, is this even possible?
< 1287897520 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's unspeakably huge.
< 1287897534 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I mean, you know those huge columns we're playing on?
< 1287897535 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
< 1287897540 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Scroll down to the very bottom of them. I dare you to.
< 1287897543 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :533@1495D
< 1287897543 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Look at the scrollbar.
< 1287897545 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S NOT EVEN HALF FUCKING WAY
< 1287897555 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a mass of NON-COLUMNATED SHIT after that.
< 1287897556 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Look at the number of images, not the size of the page :P
< 1287897562 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You still have to navigate around.
< 1287897562 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're at more than a third!
< 1287897569 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then everything goes into one column... what?
< 1287897572 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Scroll down.
< 1287897580 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does everything go into one pinky-beigey column a while down?
< 1287897584 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the far left.
< 1287897585 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thin.
< 1287897595 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks.
< 1287897610 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GOP [GOP=Grand Old Party= Republican]"
< 1287897612 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANKS FOR THAT HAVENWORKS
< 1287897619 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha
< 1287897621 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup
< 1287897625 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh yeah then after that we get WOO SUPER-WIDENESS
< 1287897629 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For...
< 1287897632 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear god how long for?
< 1287897638 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That section is unplayable, but if you get all the images before, you can drop through it and still be OK.
< 1287897639 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we get to
< 1287897642 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Google.com/search?q="Dick+Cheney+is+a+TERRORIST"]]
< 1287897644 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: WTF? No
< 1287897646 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: We're aiming for 10)%.
< 1287897648 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100%
< 1287897649 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
< 1287897661 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, let's see... more one-column insanity...
< 1287897666 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG A-Z SUBJECT TOPICS
< 1287897675 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HavenWorks.com has been an Aesthetically Challenged News Website Since 1998"
< 1287897680 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :408@2002D jumped but not high enough
< 1287897684 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not kidding.
< 1287897690 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-c0br43- Hello elliott, and welcome to #esoteric on Freenode! Please make sure to check out the new radio stream at http://htsradio.fezrev.com:8212/stream.m3u and have a great day! :D
< 1287897697 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c0br43: lololol moron
< 1287897704 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nonono, you can still get 100%.
< 1287897706 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone want to get an over-under bet going on when Havenworks realizes that Bush isn't news anymore?
< 1287897708 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ...how?
< 1287897710 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What I mean is there's a point of no return.
< 1287897720 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That super-tall column has no images in it.
< 1287897720 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Is there?
< 1287897729 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ Aesthetically HavenWorks was meant more as a Mondrian, we apologize that it comes off more like a Jackson Pollock ]]
< 1287897731 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If you get all the ones above, then drop through it, you can still get all the ones below.
< 1287897731 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah...ok
< 1287897736 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think)
< 1287897742 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Isn't that obvious?
< 1287897748 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do everything before, then do that, now you can do the after"
< 1287897767 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh man that's great, the very last image at the bottom of the page is the havenworks logo.
< 1287897769 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the centre. Huge.
< 1287897770 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRIUMPH
< 1287897782 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Do you realise it's more than one page?
< 1287897790 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://havenworks.com/censorship/
< 1287897791 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://havenworks.com/military/
< 1287897793 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Except inevitably if you got that logo, you'd go "SHIIIII I MISSED ONE"
< 1287897795 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://havenworks.com/law/
< 1287897801 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And spend all day trying to find what you missed.
< 1287897805 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I just looked at havenworks.com
< 1287897808 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://havenworks.com/hermit <-- entirely different stuff
< 1287897817 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE MUST DO EVERY SINGLE PAGE
< 1287897818 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy fuck it's like Geocities all over agin.
< 1287897825 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: WebSplat it. Srsly.
< 1287897833 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is impossible to convey how fun it is.
< 1287897835 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT HAS HORIZONTAL SCROLLING OH MY DEAR GOD
< 1287897841 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WebSplat handles that!
< 1287897849 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: add a trigger to the code so that if someone gets 100% on the page, the entire game state gets sent to you and you can check that it's not fake :D
< 1287897864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My eyes just got raped.
< 1287897865 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the unbelievable thing is that this guy is a liberal! usually the crazies of this sort are right-wingers
< 1287897865 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raped!
< 1287897866 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that I /can't/ check that it's not fake.
< 1287897866 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1287897870 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You get used to it
< 1287897874 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it.
< 1287897876 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like Mario.
< 1287897878 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only hurts at first.
< 1287897881 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mario colours!
< 1287897894 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I can no longer see anything but red, blue and green in their purest form.
< 1287897897 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be something else.
< 1287897907 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hermit Blog ;-)
< 1287897907 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hermit Weblog"
< 1287897916 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not just a blog, it's a WEB-LOG!
< 1287897919 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-)
< 1287897928 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: in that case, accept submissions of video play-throughs from claimed winners. you can cut down review time by instantly rejecting all videos under an hour long.
< 1287897933 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: oh dear god: http://havenworks.com/hermit/surfing/index.htm
< 1287897937 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You will laugh when that page loads.
< 1287897939 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, really, you will.
< 1287897948 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The header specifically AND ALSO THE LENGTH
< 1287897953 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You're right, I did.
< 1287897976 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this
< 1287897985 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: But that means if you thought you had ANY CHANCE of winning, you'd have to figure out how to make a video playthrough ;)
< 1287897986 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is worse than yvette's bridal formal
< 1287897992 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: HAHAHAHAno.
< 1287897997 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing is worse than Yvette's Bridal Formal.
< 1287898005 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: presumably once someone has one, they know they have a chance
< 1287898008 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the content here -- of what little I've managed to coerce my eyes into reading -- doesn't seem too bad.
< 1287898010 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people WILL do it
< 1287898015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yvette's Bridal Formal is UFO Schizophrenia: The Website!
< 1287898021 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Fair point :P
< 1287898022 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why twingalaxies exists after all
< 1287898048 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you can cut down review time by instantly rejecting all videos under an hour long."
< 1287898050 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't take that long :P
< 1287898054 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know you're joking, but
< 1287898083 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually
< 1287898087 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably 40-50 minutes
< 1287898121 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need to find something that's tough, but not ridiculous.
< 1287898123 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :extrapolating from gregor's score + extra since it stops being multi-columned
< 1287898127 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: no, this is perfect
< 1287898129 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't give up
< 1287898138 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1287898142 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cracks his knuckles.
< 1287898172 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts on his wrist splints >_> <_<
< 1287898257 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Aww man, it's gone all slow.
< 1287898264 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1287898267 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind, fixed itself.
< 1287898273 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Lots of enemies falling + you falling = slow for a few seconds.
< 1287898294 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it does NOT handle having too many things on the screen very well :(
< 1287898330 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Man, these images are SO AWESOME.
< 1287898332 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOOKA ME GO
< 1287898355 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: This would be so, so amazing as multiplayer.
< 1287898364 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287898365 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grab images before anyone else does, person with the most images at death / field emptying wins.
< 1287898433 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9YtJC-Kd8
< 1287898476 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: WE FUCKING NEED HP.
< 1287898479 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's just like
< 1287898481 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 hits
< 1287898482 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no refills
< 1287898491 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :308@482D
< 1287898491 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed, I'll implement that now.
< 1287898497 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: In fact, make it 3 by default.
< 1287898504 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And... hmm.
< 1287898511 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Make killing an enemy give you 1 HP with 1/3 chance?
< 1287898519 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, too probable.
< 1287898522 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in that case enemies get 2 by default MWAHAHAHA
< 1287898523 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 1/4 chance?
< 1287898525 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/5?
< 1287898527 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get the idea.
< 1287898539 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I mean it *is* totally awesomely hardcore the way it is, but... c'mon.
< 1287898545 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T scatter any potions, I think.
< 1287898548 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should have to work for HP.
< 1287898552 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Any thoughts on how to get HP back from enemies?
< 1287898579 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: JUST DISREGARD MY IDEAS ;__;
< 1287898584 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor:if you can bounce off enough of them in a row without touching ground...
< 1287898585 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never asked me when quintopia give idea *sniff*
< 1287898589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ...no.
< 1287898593 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEEE
< 1287898595 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killing them is near-impossible already without risking everything :P
< 1287898605 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make it a 1/3 or 1/4 chance of giving you 1 HP.
< 1287898607 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so also should getting HP be
< 1287898633 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1287898658 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how one gets HP should be game dependent
< 1287898696 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, you have the opportunity to get 1 HP every 200 images, but if you are already full, you don't get it
< 1287898701 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287898734 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHYEAH
< 1287898735 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gettimg images!
< 1287898738 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect!
< 1287898739 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooo
< 1287898742 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Images are just score!
< 1287898752 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It should involve effort to top up HP i.e. killing enemies :P
< 1287898784 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicker bicker bicker :P
< 1287898788 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, killing enemies could be too
< 1287898792 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No earning HP should be a completely separate item
< 1287898795 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a triple kill gets you an HP
< 1287898799 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no
< 1287898799 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too easy
< 1287898802 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 mobs in under 5 seconds
< 1287898804 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: noo
< 1287898806 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's almost impossible
< 1287898816 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very difficult sure
< 1287898818 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killing enemies should be worth nothing unless you make a combo, in which you should earn a lot of points
< 1287898822 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 3 starting HP. 1/3 or 1/4 (your pick) chance of getting 1 HP each time you kill an enemy.
< 1287898828 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Put it in, and if it sucks, quintopia can have what he wants :P
< 1287898843 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like you'd have to change much code to migrate the system.
< 1287898847 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also mine is simpler to start with >__>
< 1287898864 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, i'm kind of a fan of "you die if they touch you, end of story"
< 1287898876 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yeah, uh, havenworks :P
< 1287898878 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 1 HP by default, with possibility of topping it up to 2 or 3
< 1287898888 0 :catseye!~Chris@adsl-99-94-152-154.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287898916 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! So.... I realized two things tonight.
< 1287898926 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a REAL MAN
< 1287898927 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: (1) Rabbits are totally fish.
< 1287898939 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ok i half-agree with quintopia now
< 1287898943 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he finally found the g-spot
< 1287898953 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 1 HP to start with, 1/3 to 1/4 chance -- your choice -- of getting 1 HP when killing an enemy.
< 1287898954 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is that the "j" in "Clojure" probably refers to Java. Up til now I thought it was just a weird intentional misspelling, kind of like "Flickr".
< 1287898963 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Battle, and you get better at battling because you get more HP.
< 1287898966 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: See, it's a levelling system!
< 1287898975 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye is ... slow
< 1287899002 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: Fluas nun sango senkulpa?
< 1287899015 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Rabbits are totally birds.
< 1287899021 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes. Fishbirds.
< 1287899026 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have rabbits and I can confirm this.
< 1287899051 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: In Japanese, it is entirely valid to use the counter for birds to refer to rabbits. Honestly.
< 1287899058 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh.
< 1287899061 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "counter"?
< 1287899068 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I happen to disagree. Killing enemies should give you *nothing* (or perhaps even a penalty) if you fail to make a combo. You have to make a combo to earn a lot of points. I think this way is better.
< 1287899073 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Japanese do not understand rabbits.
< 1287899079 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You have clearly never played WebSplat.
< 1287899081 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suffix applied to numbers for counting...
< 1287899086 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would give a cash prize to anyone who managed a combo at all.
< 1287899087 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah.
< 1287899089 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That doesn't make rabbits to be birds, though. It just means it is the same category for counting
< 1287899096 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : The Japanese do not understand rabbits.
< 1287899099 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :counting rabbits is impossible
< 1287899104 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can never count as fast as they breed
< 1287899107 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, three people is "san nin", three birds/rabbits are "san wa".
< 1287899111 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That's why you neuter them first.
< 1287899121 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1287899133 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they are already pregnant by the time they are old enough to neuter without killing
< 1287899135 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Buddhist monks insisted rabbits were birds so they could eat them.
< 1287899142 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I THINK THEY MIGHT BE BORN PREGNANT
< 1287899144 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Patently false.
< 1287899145 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1287899145 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Honest.
< 1287899154 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "They can fly and everything!"
< 1287899166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Actually, the argument was their ears count as wings.
< 1287899170 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1287899171 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I APPROVE SO HARD
< 1287899175 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRILLIANT SCAM
< 1287899178 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can't actually flap them
< 1287899179 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if they could
< 1287899180 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man
< 1287899186 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just imagining a rabbit flying
< 1287899189 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its ears flapping wildly
< 1287899189 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gahahaha
< 1287899193 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How goes the score
< 1287899196 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have played the game two times. But these ideas I have just have to do with nearly any game in general (of course much would depending on the game though; there are different ways depending on game).
< 1287899203 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm working on HP.
< 1287899218 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 1 HP by default 1/3 or 1/4 chance on monster kill to get 1 HP k thx bai
< 1287899220 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>
< 1287899230 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty much it, yup.
< 1287899241 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3
< 1287899249 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Waiiit what's the bit that it's not it.
< 1287899256 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Worst sentence ever?)
< 1287899291 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah the other thing was totally about birds and rabbits and fish and counters.
< 1287899303 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a more serious note, why has no species adapted the pregnant-at-birth scenario yet? Some of the sperm DNA gets duplicated and kept alive as a little cell culture, and as soon as the fetus has some functional ova, they are released into it. THEY WOULD BE MORE FIT FOR SURVIVAL THAN ALL.
< 1287899315 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: aphids
< 1287899323 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly?
< 1287899328 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks
< 1287899332 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i... i think nature is not evil enough to do your crazy ideas.
< 1287899355 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: we're playing WEBSPLAT ON HAVENWORKS YAY
< 1287899404 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they use parthenogenesis when they have pregnant offspring
< 1287899412 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU LIED TO ME CATSEYE
< 1287899424 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: So, you're proposing that nature should invent tribbles.
< 1287899428 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking sexual reproduction...in the womb of a fetus
< 1287899431 0 :c0br43!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1287899440 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's an evolutionarily stable strategy
< 1287899457 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRIBBLES ^_^
< 1287899460 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a tribble.
< 1287899461 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1287899477 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just need one and a food supply, and everyone can have tribbles!
< 1287899480 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts bomb in tribble, gives to elliott
< 1287899490 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: bomb jokes aren't funny.
< 1287899493 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then Ethiopia sobs as all the food goes away.
< 1287899502 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you said pregant at birth - they're pregnant at birth
< 1287899503 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about ethiopia. tribbles!
< 1287899506 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION delivers twenty seven more tribbles and hides the bomb tribble among them
< 1287899511 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: bomb jokes aren't funny.
< 1287899521 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now let's put bomb in bomb, and put bomb in tribble, and put tribble in bomb, and then put it in the mailbox, and then gives to elliott.
< 1287899526 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i...
< 1287899529 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay zzo38 sure.
< 1287899544 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: i elaborated on the particular sort of pregnancy at birth i meant *in the same msg*
< 1287899557 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote The keyboard's crap :( Sgeo: Make another one!
< 1287899564 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 wins
< 1287899570 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bomb joke was very funny
< 1287899574 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: tl;dr
< 1287899575 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Can you use `addquote now?
< 1287899587 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1287899589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hackego
< 1287899597 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's not funny because it's a bomb joke.
< 1287899600 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: would you joke about rape?
< 1287899614 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because rape jokes aren't funny.
< 1287899629 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a joke if it's not funny
< 1287899635 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence, impossible proposal
< 1287899638 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want a tribble. But I want to win a big spider three times as big as I am! And nobody else bother me when I am working in my room because the other people won't fit, it is already full
< 1287899657 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts making a giant spider sprite for websplat
< 1287899662 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1287899676 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is it with you and spiders
< 1287899676 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly
< 1287899679 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott,quintopia: But you can make joke about anything it might be funny or not
< 1287899683 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: make the arms and legs for the evil favicons first
< 1287899684 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for Gregor
< 1287899691 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287899693 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah good idea
< 1287899696 0 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287899722 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You might want to downsize the favicons accordingly so that the final dimensions are the same.
< 1287899728 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What size are the favicons now?
< 1287899732 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sometimes I watch the spider outside. But not always.
< 1287899734 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32x32 right?
< 1287899740 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32x32. They should be closer to 24x24, but I'll let quintopia judge.
< 1287899749 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You'll want to make it 32x32 or slightly smaller and have a square hole in there.
< 1287899751 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For obvious reasons.
< 1287899755 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd make the hole big :P
< 1287899765 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Err, will you be able to blend this with the favicon easily?
< 1287899771 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Maybe use GD or something on a codu.org URL?
< 1287899780 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the plan.
< 1287899785 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make big hole that the world can go through by following rules of Einstein relativistic
< 1287899787 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I COULD layer it client-side, but yukk.
< 1287899810 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: where would we end up?
< 1287899820 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to know for my report.
< 1287899821 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote The keyboard's crap :( Sgeo: Make another one!
< 1287899832 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: the land of giant spiders
< 1287899837 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you make your own physics
< 1287899858 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: I don't know. Do you mean if you make a big hole like I described?
< 1287899875 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What's taking so long right now is I decided you should get knocked back a bit when an enemy hits you, just to piss everyone off :P
< 1287899885 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Define knocked back a bit.
< 1287899889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physically moved?
< 1287899891 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is totally pissed off
< 1287899895 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287899899 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah.
< 1287899907 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: lawl
< 1287899934 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes. what's on the other side of the hole? perhaps we won't know until we actually go through it.
< 1287899936 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: By the way, you might want to handle iframes in some way.
< 1287899939 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: link the google favicon extractor again plox
< 1287899943 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You can access their document object, right?
< 1287899947 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it doesn't really work
< 1287899948 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not usually.
< 1287899950 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as we found
< 1287899953 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: mrf.
< 1287899958 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: maybe not then
< 1287899958 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: The other side of the orbit of the Earth.
< 1287899964 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want to see if it works on *one page*
< 1287899971 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesn't *really* work that's fine
< 1287900003 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=DOM
< 1287900015 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so if it is fall here, would it be spring there?
< 1287900022 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1287900026 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What you really need is space-eating enemies that eat elements on the page and, when you hit the evil anti-matter they leave behind, you get hurtz.
< 1287900032 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: fix hackego plox
< 1287900047 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nothing I can do for him.
< 1287900051 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*beep* *beep* *beep*
< 1287900064 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: I guess so.
< 1287900103 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "Time of death, @250."
< 1287900108 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: (If you get that I approve)
< 1287900122 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh, my knockback = fail for some reason :(
< 1287900136 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You were combining my heart monitor with our scoring system ... how could I possibly not get that?
< 1287900144 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I... no.
< 1287900145 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actualluy, the other thing I realized is that employer totally wants me to attend PyCon next year, and that I totally could. It would be like my own personal "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas^W^WAtlanta, Georgia"...
< 1287900150 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Actually. :P
< 1287900151 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*my employer
< 1287900161 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: that just sounds like... bad
< 1287900169 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: if you do it, you totally have to write a novel of it
< 1287900174 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure to take lots and lots of drugs first
< 1287900218 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: People at work are apparently connected. I could totally schmooze my way into one of the cool PSF-only parties.
< 1287900231 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: please tell me those don't exist.
< 1287900242 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I WAS FRIGHTENED TOO
< 1287900251 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: no wait. you're not joking?
< 1287900253 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but logically, they do
< 1287900255 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like actually not joking?
< 1287900258 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, think about it.
< 1287900262 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: i... no but do they really
< 1287900263 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i'm sure they exist.
< 1287900265 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know that they exist
< 1287900266 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for certain
< 1287900280 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i have only second-hand accounts, but, no reason to doubt them.
< 1287900308 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: ...
< 1287900315 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAthank god for Apex eh
< 1287900379 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, if i go, thank god nobody knows who i am.
< 1287900414 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About to push HP
< 1287900418 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ... honestly have a hard time envisioning myself surviving the thing
< 1287900442 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: will The Guido be there
< 1287900446 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all those... "Pythonistas"... taking it all so... *seriously*...
< 1287900455 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: from what i understand, yes, he attends
< 1287900457 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO DON'T YOU SEE,
< 1287900460 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're *joking and fun*
< 1287900465 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a strictly sensitive and non-offensive manner.
< 1287900489 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: BTW, how do you do the initial img-detection? I assume you know that jQuery has stuff to do that? :P
< 1287900512 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jQuery has godawfully slow stuff to do that.
< 1287900514 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on some getElementsBySelector thing which is supposedly stupendously fast for some reason.
< 1287900522 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Orly? I remember reading that it was unreasonably fast.
< 1287900523 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supposedly.
< 1287900529 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of browser crazy.
< 1287900549 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I should mention: I do this as part of my general platform detection, which has to go over every element anyway.
< 1287900565 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: So slow though.
< 1287900570 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So selectors help me roughly none.
< 1287900583 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 'twould be even slower with jQuery, as I have learned by ... using jQuery to do it :P
< 1287900588 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: So slow though.
< 1287900592 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tough.
< 1287900609 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The answer is TRACETAMARINV8
< 1287900612 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MONKEY
< 1287900617 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KJS
< 1287900632 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JAVASCRIPTCORE
< 1287900636 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SQUIRRELFISH
< 1287900639 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SQUIRRELFISHEXTREME
< 1287900648 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUSHING HP
< 1287900648 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND UH
< 1287900659 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUSHED HP
< 1287900661 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CARAKAN
< 1287900665 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Opera's :P)
< 1287900667 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an added bonus, you bounce off of enemies now :P
< 1287900675 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Totally doing it now.
< 1287900708 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I has HP.
< 1287900711 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Duude no max HP.
< 1287900718 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X
< 1287900718 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Just let it stack up :P
< 1287900723 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :P
< 1287900754 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Why not? If you make it 1/4 or 1/5 chance of getting 1 HP when killing an enemy...
< 1287900767 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: OK compromise: Max HP as a function of images/total.
< 1287900780 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes more sense ... but for the moment Idonwanna X-P
< 1287900782 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's EXP points! :P
< 1287900785 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to PLAY, not keep hacking X-P
< 1287900794 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay these favicons are gonna be so cute staggering around
< 1287900814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It uh... it actually feels bad having HP.
< 1287900817 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like you've ruined the skill element.
< 1287900853 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I HATE YOU WITH HATE
< 1287900864 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Sorry dude, it just does :P
< 1287900899 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then remove the HP
< 1287900911 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I mean... it's only HavenWorks where it seems even vaguely needed, and HavenWorks should be near-impossible, dammit :P
< 1287900965 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering that I can't seem to get any HP boosts regardless, maybe it doesn't matter X-D
< 1287900998 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, is there a bug preventing me from ever actually getting more HP ...
< 1287901036 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally got a second
< 1287901038 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeesh
< 1287901071 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It just wouldn't feel like I've really won, you know?
< 1287901074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like getting all but one image. :P
< 1287901092 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I REFUSE TO REMOVE IT AFTER YOU BITCHED SO MUCH ABOUT IT
< 1287901093 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RE-FUSE
< 1287901101 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: WALLOW IN YOUR LIES THEN
< 1287901118 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOO
< 1287901120 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I JUST GOT HP
< 1287901156 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The bouncing thing is good though.
< 1287901176 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa. In 1968, North Korea captured the Pueblo. It remains a comissioned vessel of the Navy to this day. Making it the only Navy ship held captive.
< 1287901198 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray, absurdly long wars.
< 1287901224 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I... a monster walked into me and I just bounced off.
< 1287901239 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And?
< 1287901249 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you added bouncing? :D :D :D :D
< 1287901255 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yesa
< 1287901256 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Yes
< 1287901264 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like ...rejump bouncing?
< 1287901297 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what that means.
< 1287901306 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I... remove HP dude.
< 1287901310 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pweeze.
< 1287901321 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, you bounced off and didn't lose HP? Did the monster disappear?
< 1287901323 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: holding down up while killing an enemy auto-jumps
< 1287901327 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... might have lost HP.
< 1287901334 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It jumps whether you want to or not.
< 1287901338 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Anyway, uh, yeah, HP :(
< 1287901351 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did the monster disappear?
< 1287901358 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't recall.
< 1287901359 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>
< 1287901362 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remove HP it's for loser fags.
< 1287901367 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: faggish losers.
< 1287901396 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you remember that time when elliott was all "ADD HP PLOX" and i was like "I LIKE INSTA-DEATH" and he was like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
< 1287901400 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happened JUST LIKE THAT
< 1287901406 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That's how I remember it.
< 1287901410 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia is totally the games designer here REMOVE HP
< 1287901428 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree remove HP
< 1287901445 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe you can put pH?)
< 1287901451 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Have you even played it? X-P
< 1287901466 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Hey! That one was totally mine! See last night's logs.
< 1287901474 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: don't dyke out the HP code, just have it turned off for image collection.
< 1287901474 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Twice apparently!
< 1287901479 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A whole two times.
< 1287901484 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Why not? It'll be in the VCS history...
< 1287901487 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can foresee scenarios where baddies are so tough to kill we need HP
< 1287901489 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No point leaving dead code around.
< 1287901504 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate you all. With hatred.
< 1287901510 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I love how I can drop below a platform, get something, and then just jump back up on top of it.
< 1287901517 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm leaving the code in because it involved paring out damage dealing, which is good anyway.
< 1287901525 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1287901527 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could fall beneath a steel platform, pick up an image just above some lava, and then just somehow HOP BACK UP ONTO THE PLATFORM.
< 1287901533 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Just remove the display and gaining then :P
< 1287901557 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ for image collection only
< 1287901558 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you sound just like a scientologist
< 1287901573 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't think you understand how VCSes work.
< 1287901573 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i picked up an image just above some lava once.
< 1287901578 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: :D
< 1287901588 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: See, you can get code out of their history without cluttering up the present revision with it unnecessarily.
< 1287901590 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night all
< 1287901599 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287901609 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't think you understand how making options be available to turn on when another game that needs them comes around works
< 1287901611 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Night all * Sgeo_ has joined #esoteric
< 1287901621 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it involves more code
< 1287901625 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I thought you were doing the design and Gregor doing the code.
< 1287901625 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only just a little
< 1287901633 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orr are you now the overbearing project manager :P
< 1287901643 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :247| Night all * Sgeo_ has joined #esoteric
< 1287901645 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia is doing ideas too.
< 1287901645 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION falls on elliott
< 1287901652 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quotes 246
< 1287901655 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1287901656 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that for overbearing?
< 1287901660 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 246
< 1287901660 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia's ideas are given higher priority because he's drawing too :P
< 1287901666 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, I'm laughing too hard to fall asleep
< 1287901668 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :246| syntax is the least important part of a programming language other than Python
< 1287901671 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah
< 1287901689 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote The keyboard's crap :( Sgeo: Make another one!
< 1287901695 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :247| The keyboard's crap :( Sgeo: Make another one!
< 1287901699 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1287901700 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrf
< 1287901701 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong way around
< 1287901704 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds in reverse order
< 1287901705 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1287901715 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 247
< 1287901718 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1287901720 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 248
< 1287901721 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1287901730 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop, it's repo surgery time
< 1287901733 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this could all go horribly wrong
< 1287901759 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: codu.org is like supa slow
< 1287901763 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1287901774 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :247| The keyboard's crap :( Sgeo: Make another one!
< 1287901774 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1287901802 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1287901825 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had an idea for another powerup that would be really awesome early
< 1287901830 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've since forgotten it
< 1287901838 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO: Unforget
< 1287901860 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH
< 1287901863 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JUST REMEMBERED
< 1287901880 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grappling hook gun, Metroid style!
< 1287901886 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to jungle swing from here to there
< 1287901896 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Better idea:
< 1287901899 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ninja rope, Worms style!
< 1287901908 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like grappling hooks but more awesome because the rope bends in crazy manners.
< 1287901909 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone said that already
< 1287901912 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said it.
< 1287901912 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1287901920 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOO
< 1287901924 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: plagiarist!
< 1287901926 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO POWERFUL
< 1287901934 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's not too powerful
< 1287901935 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's a bitch
< 1287901949 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with a lot of practice it's sweet
< 1287901960 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bitch...to code
< 1287902003 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes.
< 1287902011 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1287902014 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :internally the rope is divided into N px segments i think 8 or 16
< 1287902028 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then each of them can bend according to the position of the player, what it's attached to, and what objects are in the way
< 1287902034 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1287902037 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact it can go through too-thin walls due to the pixel size...)
< 1287902041 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, definitely too powerful
< 1287902051 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use it over and over and over!
< 1287902051 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have to handle bouncing off walls and floor
< 1287902057 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: lol.
< 1287902064 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one, it can be limited
< 1287902071 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287902071 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two, seriously, you have no idea how hard using it effectively is
< 1287902078 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :codu.org just ATED GREGOR AND HACKEGO
< 1287902084 0 :sftp_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1287902090 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 95% of online worming is rope-based because it's so tricky
< 1287902097 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even just basic simple not-using-the-full-power-of-it movement is too powerful
< 1287902106 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some definition of too powerful
< 1287902116 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too powerful for websplat
< 1287902132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what she said.
< 1287902138 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spiderwoman that is. What?
< 1287902153 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
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< 1287902178 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHHH IT GOTTED EGBOT TOO
< 1287902180 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a faster way of receiving quote.db file?
< 1287902182 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he back now
< 1287902198 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm taking down the bots again, they're exacerbating the problem.
< 1287902208 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But I need to do repo surgery!
< 1287902220 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care
< 1287902221 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quotes are CHRONOLOGICALLY INACCURATE
< 1287902242 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care.
< 1287902268 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your face doesn't care.
< 1287902307 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. It stands united with the rest of me.
< 1287902316 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: In not caring.
< 1287902322 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup
< 1287902357 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: So "nope" was inaccurate.
< 1287902357 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION now waits to see if anything is going to work again ...
< 1287902359 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SAID NOTHING WRONG.
< 1287902365 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: BTW, you're being a totally great advertisement for prgmr :P
< 1287902376 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only sucks ... recently?
< 1287902380 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It goes really slow and breaks on a frequent basis and I have no idea why! Then it goes back to normal again!"
< 1287902395 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not on a frequent basis, it's been bad for about a month straight.
< 1287902398 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before that, clear sailing.
< 1287902405 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Frequent in that month, I mean.
< 1287902415 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been pretty much constant, not frequent :P
< 1287902431 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just colo but EXPENSE.
< 1287902493 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK now I managed to get copy of "quote.db" file
< 1287902716 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sobs in prgmr's general direction.
< 1287902798 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: how offensive.
< 1287902799 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1287902820 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s how I roll.
< 1287902859 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also pretty awesome that the moment HackEgo comes back up you queue like 50 commands X_X
< 1287902889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "With Release 33-9117, the SEC is considering substitution of Python or another programming language for legal English as a basis for some of its regulations."
< 1287902904 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: blame Sgeo; I added two quotes then used `help
< 1287902915 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both addquotes finished before the help
< 1287902918 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I also looked up one quote
< 1287902921 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think
< 1287902930 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo queued up like three quote lookups while I asked for help for apparently no reason
< 1287903112 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That "you" was not you (elliott), it was you (#esoteric)
< 1287903125 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I am one with #esoteric.
< 1287903144 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Because it's 6:51 mother-a-fucking-m
< 1287903473 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn it prgmr, it should not take more than 5 minutes to boot.
< 1287903507 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: IT'S BECAUSE THE SERVERS ARE ACTUALLY 386S LOL
< 1287903509 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN A BASEMENT
< 1287903509 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL
< 1287903514 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASEMLOLENT
< 1287903517 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASELOLMENT
< 1287903521 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :38LOL6S
< 1287903525 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SERVLOLERS
< 1287903535 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6:5LOL8
< 1287903549 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear i'm going only slightly crazloly.
< 1287903764 0 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287903778 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO TOUCH
< 1287903795 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287903825 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO TOUCH
< 1287903848 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "With Release 33-9117, the SEC [...]" ... are you fucking serious or is this another one of those "nukes -- powered by perl!" things?
< 1287903858 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: Srs.
< 1287903869 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sobs
< 1287903893 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1287903894 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1287903912 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: That is fully serious.
< 1287903931 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's especially wonderful that they chose a language with no official semantics, formal or otherwise!
< 1287903942 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No shit.
< 1287904045 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, websplat is back up to date (finally)
< 1287904073 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like Hax0r Econom1st has come true. Well, more true.
< 1287904156 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO HOW DO THE PYTHON LAWS MEANT TO WORK
< 1287904158 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY MY CAPS LOCK IS ON NOW
< 1287904161 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WON'T FIX
< 1287904162 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITSELF OFF
< 1287904167 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEACUSE I WON'T PRESS THE BUTTON TO FIX ITSELF OFF
< 1287904170 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO IT IS ON
< 1287904222 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELLIOTT: THEY WORK BY MONKEYPATCHING MOSTLY
< 1287904264 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MEAN LAWS
< 1287904270 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CATSEYE: DOESN'T MONKEYPACTHING NOT SO COMMON IN PYTHON REALLY
< 1287904323 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELLIOTT NOT QUITE SO COMMON AS IT IS IN RUBY I GATHER BUT IT HAPPENS
< 1287904327 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OAKY
< 1287904364 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN RUBY YOU WOULD OPEN UP THE ROOT OF THE LAW HIERARCHY TO MODIFY THE LAW AND ALL ITS SUBLAWS YEAAAH
< 1287904373 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO
< 1287904375 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :METALAWS
< 1287904377 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NUFF SAID
< 1287904424 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could have had the decency to say "Prolog". Then I wouldn't hate them nearly so much.
< 1287904448 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambda calculus :P
< 1287904491 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As terrifying a notion as it is, JavaScript would have been a better option (it has a rather-complete specification, albeit a horrifying one)
< 1287904512 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NO
< 1287904522 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GREGOR:
< 1287904526 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STUPID TAB COMPLETE
< 1287904529 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S NOT NEARLY OAKY ENOUGH
< 1287904566 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's important here is having specifiable behavior, not ... oakiness ...
< 1287904638 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want them to do this, and for the meaning of some part to be brought into question, so they turn to the docs, and the docs are ambiguous, so they turn to CPython, and CPython *CRASHES*.
< 1287904646 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That will make the dark part of me very, very happy.
< 1287904655 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-D
< 1287904660 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES YES YES J'APPROVE
< 1287904664 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS J'APPROVE EVEN RIGHT PROPER
< 1287904666 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO KNOWS/CARES
< 1287904666 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: They will never turn to the docs.
< 1287904673 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MAN
< 1287904674 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE'LL HAVE JUDGES
< 1287904677 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESTABLISHING PYTHON PRECEDENT
< 1287904681 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND CPYTHON WILL -- BY LAW --
< 1287904689 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BE OBLIGATED TO OBEY THESE PRECEDENTS
< 1287904697 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO WE'LL HAVE TONS OF COMMITS GOING
< 1287904704 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AS PER BUTTFUCKER VS MUTTMUCKER, ..."
< 1287904726 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I don't see that happening :P
< 1287904840 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://filebin.ca/kfemmz/iconbodyl0.png.tar.gz
< 1287904866 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the ideal order for animation is 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,0,7,6,5,4,3,2,1,...
< 1287904882 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just when I thought I was freeeee
< 1287904888 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i put 3 green dots in each one so you can calculate where to put the favicon
< 1287904898 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll want to remove them once you've figured it out
< 1287904914 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREGOR: I DONT SEE YOUR FACE HAPPENING EITHER REALLY.
< 1287904917 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.8/20100722155716]
< 1287904928 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i see: cruise control for cool
< 1287905007 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contrary to popular misconception, the /sustain pedal/ is the cruise control for cool.
< 1287905047 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTOPIA: AT 7:23 AM NOBODY TURNS OFF CAPSLOCK
< 1287905058 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<elliott> SORRY MY CAPS LOCK IS ON NOW
< 1287905058 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<elliott> IT WON'T FIX
< 1287905058 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<elliott> ITSELF OFF
< 1287905058 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<elliott> BEACUSE I WON'T PRESS THE BUTTON TO FIX ITSELF OFF
< 1287905058 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<elliott> SO IT IS ON
< 1287905061 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ELLIOTT
< 1287905072 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's only 02:23. you can turn it off now.
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< 1287905088 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD THING I DONT LIEV IN COMMUNIST TMIE ZONE LIKE AMERICA
< 1287905096 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...WHAT
< 1287905098 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT DID I EVEN JUST SAY
< 1287905109 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said "i really need to go to bed"
< 1287905115 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Communist time zone??
< 1287905118 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it was "how much more annoying can i get?"
< 1287905144 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZZO38: AMERICA
< 1287905164 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTOPIA: PROB. NOT AS ANNOYING AS YOU BUT I'LL TRY
< 1287905170 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean for timezones to be communist?
< 1287905179 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN MY DEFENCE I'#M TIRED
< 1287905182 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZZO38: I REALLY WISH I KNEW.
< 1287905188 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO: WHY LATENESS IMPLIES CAPSLOCK. ANOTHER THING I WANT TO KNOW.
< 1287905226 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then figure it out.
< 1287905235 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. TRYING TO.
< 1287905235 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: This is not the reason.
< 1287905240 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISN'T IT
< 1287905246 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CATSEYE: http://www.itworld.com/government/105031/will-wall-street-require-python
< 1287905250 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: PYTHON LAWS
< 1287905252 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*CATSEYE:
< 1287905282 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Something like this--perhaps in Java or Perl or Ocaml rather than Python--will happen, sooner or later." HAHAHAHA PERL LAWS
< 1287905287 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN SEE NO ISSUES WITH THIS IDEA
< 1287905841 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL GOODNIGHT; BYE.
< 1287905846 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Connection reset by peer review
< 1287906088 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god
< 1287906102 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a good morning to him
< 1287906446 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287906451 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: THIS MAY HELP http://sizzlejs.com/
< 1287906455 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1287906518 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott who is not here that is likely the single horriblest article i have ever readed good night
< 1287906608 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't click
< 1287906896 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1287907114 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feh, was hoping I could get the favicon to sit in the right place on the client.
< 1287907118 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at least Chrome seems to unreliable.
< 1287907137 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, FF too :(
< 1287907142 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, to the server side it goes.
< 1287907150 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better that way
< 1287907156 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pats Gregor
< 1287907165 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It really isn't :P
< 1287907199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended
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< 1287907220 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no?
< 1287907226 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need a hug?
< 1287907268 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if it was done on the client, I wouldn't have to trust clients not to send me nasty URL requests and thereby DOS me :(
< 1287907657 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind 8-D
< 1287907661 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am made of fail, but the web is made of win!
< 1287907866 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: How sure are you about that order? :P
< 1287907933 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there are other orders that could work too...that one just amused me the most
< 1287907949 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works best if mob moves REALLY SLOW
< 1287908676 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pushes.
< 1287908755 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try that.
< 1287908906 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take that, hats wearing hats!
< 1287908909 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DON'T BELONG IN THIS WORLD
< 1287908944 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://imgur.com/yhpIy
< 1287909080 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: there seems to be a puddle of piss around dead you. is this correct?
< 1287909093 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhh, no?
< 1287909125 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be an artifact of your crazy weird background
< 1287909149 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the teetering animation should go slightly faster and the mob should move slightly slower
< 1287909216 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND IF IT IS NOT TOO DIFFICULT his acceleration should go up and down cyclically at the same frequency of the animation cycle
< 1287909227 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he's moving in fits and starts
< 1287909268 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be way too difficult >_>
< 1287909272 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for the moment.
< 1287909276 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too difficult for 3:30AM.
< 1287909331 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try now.
< 1287909366 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how difficult would it be to apply brownian motion with hard limits to his acceleration at each tick? then you don't have to think about frequency...
< 1287909412 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*smack*
< 1287909450 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that for?
< 1287909459 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3:40AM!!!
< 1287909461 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLAR
< 1287909473 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brownian motion is significantly easier to implement than periodic acceleration changes!
< 1287909494 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more difficult to implement than sleep.
< 1287909546 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's a lot better, and the splat dogs look great
< 1287909568 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but IT WOULD BE BETTER IF FAVICON DUDE WANDERING ACCELERATION
< 1287909579 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :save it for tomorrow
< 1287909701 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also amusing is dying in mid-air
< 1287909715 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is very unragdolllike
< 1287909730 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially dying on the upward part of trajectory
< 1287909813 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND YAY MOBS FALLING OFF PLATFORMS!
< 1287910042 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that skulldog just turn around JUST to bite me?
< 1287910123 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no it was just an invisible wall
< 1287910276 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROFL
< 1287910303 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: try it on ballerinamafia.net. the face points the wrong way, so the favicon mobs are moonwalking!
< 1287910405 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D
< 1287910438 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, they only moonwalk to the left
< 1287910473 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, shouldn't your favicon->mob converted horizontally flip the favicon in one of the directions?
< 1287910482 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you draw the favicon guy with just the hat crushed onto the body?
< 1287910489 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the favicon itself would be obscured/
< 1287910495 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For dead favicon guy)
< 1287910504 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe just the legs sticking out or something :P
< 1287910526 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i was gonna have dead favicon guy be the same, except with the body horizontal
< 1287910532 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i see what you're getting at
< 1287910544 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the favicon isn't actually there in the dead one, you don't have to convert it
< 1287910562 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's not a big deal really.
< 1287910571 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in that case, no
< 1287910572 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just think it would be amusing if the hat was crushed over the body :P
< 1287910575 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'ma do it my way
< 1287910589 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'aww
< 1287910611 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can move the hat down a bunch so you get the same effect
< 1287910647 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, sleep first.
< 1287910653 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nightnight
< 1287910664 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohwait
< 1287910668 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define what you mean by "convert"?
< 1287910674 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean I'd have to rotate or something?
< 1287910677 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cuz this is all client side.
< 1287910685 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1287910693 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't horizontally flip
< 1287910697 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1287910705 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor can I rotate.
< 1287910705 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohvell
< 1287910749 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "the web is made of win" means you figured out how to do it clientside i guess
< 1287910757 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes :P
< 1287910770 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's better that way, it really is.
< 1287910781 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW to sleep.
< 1287910807 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? imagemagicking with php was always p damn fast for me
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< 1287910964 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD NEWS GREGOR
< 1287910969 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reflection is possible clientside!
< 1287911323 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1287911996 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: thanks for telling me NOW
< 1287912173 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
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< 1287915974 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Welcome honored guest. I got the key you want! would you like onderves. of Yourself
< 1287916691 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving
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< 1287917241 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that Freespace 2 might simply be punishing me for having a computer with a crappy GPU...
< 1287918014 0 :yorick!yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287918110 0 :yorick!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: brb
< 1287918139 0 :yorick!yorick@unaffiliated/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287918438 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, you have somehow made WebSplat more awesome.
< 1287918445 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you do these things?
< 1287920946 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, IWC is less than a year from the 3160th strip.
< 1287921013 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what DMM will do for it...
< 1287921803 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-11-31.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1287922421 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mercurynews.com/san-jose-neighborhoods/ci_16401891?nclick_check=1
< 1287922423 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1287922435 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$3k for a stupid buffer overflow?
< 1287923871 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Calling Nokia Japanese may actually make a Finn materialize from thin air to correct you.]] — TV Tropes
< 1287923900 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, $3e3! Scientific notation in currency FTW!
< 1287924400 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$3e3 looks like 995.
< 1287924707 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287926229 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, do you often materialise out of thin air to correct people about Nokia's place of origin?
< 1287926470 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
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< 1287927165 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: We have this sort of nation-wide round-robin scheduler for that, so it's not more oftener than a couple of times a month.
< 1287927167 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays WebSplat on the longest article in Wikipedia.
< 1287927182 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dies while trying to reach the bottom.
< 1287927195 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watching Gregor's corpse freefall is surprisingly relaxing.
< 1287927221 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It aggregates this little cloud of favigoombas and bonedogs beneath it.
< 1287927435 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's websplat?
< 1287927975 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, the best web page platformer ever made.
< 1287927983 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/websplat/
< 1287929484 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: YOU'RE WINNER!
< 1287929995 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, well, there are some pages I've never won.
< 1287930020 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I just refer to the image shown on the victory
< 1287930154 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed.
< 1287930622 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the Big Rigs win screen.
< 1287930704 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, try it on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_townlands_of_County_Cork.
< 1287930716 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll take forever to load, though.
< 1287930800 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 5600 lines long, and all the images are at the top or bottom.
< 1287931127 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_operator every formula is also images.
< 1287931133 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an image*
< 1287931177 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Big Rigs. Rating: 1.0 - Abysmal. :-)
< 1287931261 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was just because they couldn't give it 0, wasn't it?
< 1287931330 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1287931382 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: They should have give it -inf (as a signaling NaN) indeed
< 1287931384 0 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287931388 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have gave*
< 1287931434 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have given*
< 1287931447 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;)
< 1287931463 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of those weird verbs which is different in the pluperfect to the perfect.
< 1287931562 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I won Townlands.
< 1287931578 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The victory screen broke the browser, but no matter.
< 1287931601 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now for Hyper operator!
< 1287931820 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pythagoras' Theorem!
< 1287931883 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287932446 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: No route to host
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< 1287933554 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like doing that tree-based VM right now...
< 1287934203 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn you, Phantom_Hoover. I read the log to get the context for that, and there WAS NONE.
< 1287934244 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, it was months ago that I discussed it.
< 1287934288 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, so the context *is* in the log, you just have to read further back
< 1287934354 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. Tree-based VM sounds like it is in a grey area between VM and AST walker, anyway, and I was wondering if you had heard of the technique of AST threading.
< 1287934374 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. catseye just decided to proceed WITHOUT context.)
< 1287934405 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the general principle was that the memory was a tree rather than an array.
< 1287934502 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And things would be done to the tree so that more things could be done.
< 1287934507 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume a von Neumann architecture, where programs are stored in the tree too?
< 1287934511 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't assume that pointers are indices in an array, isn't the heap always a tree?
< 1287934534 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye, yes.
< 1287934551 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, more tree.
< 1287934579 0 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287934635 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. What kind of tree?
< 1287934656 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A branchy one.
< 1287934661 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure.
< 1287934668 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, I like branches
< 1287934674 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary?
< 1287934786 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1287934805 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could go down the "ultra-pure" alley by making the tree the _only_ data structure, but that's too far, really.
< 1287934870 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do that, make sure to not distinguish between left and right subtrees.
< 1287934895 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orientation is impure, you see.
< 1287934915 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To what extent can one do things with self-modification?
< 1287934987 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if a program is encoded into the tree and there is a single instruction, which shifts a subtree, can you do anything interesting with that?
< 1287935026 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh
< 1287935029 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likely you can.
< 1287935040 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But without knowing how execution proceeds on a tree, it's hard to visualize.
< 1287935073 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, I have to go now.
< 1287935137 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll keep the idea warm 'til you get back.
< 1287935148 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever that means.
< 1287935218 0 :MigoMipo__!~John@84-217-11-31.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287935417 0 :MigoMipo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
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< 1287938195 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that aren't popular enough: ILP64
< 1287938223 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although really it should be S32ILP64
< 1287938227 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, uh, have a 16-bit "short short".
< 1287938443 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we like short shorts
< 1287938490 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wowzers, it is so totally non-trivial to get OS X in VirtualBox.
< 1287938492 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to see something like ILP32 but using the amd64 instruction set
< 1287938492 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knew?
< 1287938501 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i... wouldn't
< 1287938536 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why not?
< 1287938543 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NetBSD. I have 50 minutes to try.
< 1287938544 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with 64-bit
< 1287938547 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: only 50?
< 1287938559 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: why?
< 1287938561 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i have to leave to meet someone downtown...
< 1287938571 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1287938574 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i won't be back until... ?
< 1287938581 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: that ? is very vague :P
< 1287938581 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, might as well start, i think.
< 1287938586 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: lololol good luck :P
< 1287938588 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MAY NEVER BE BACK!
< 1287938589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: uh some tips
< 1287938593 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: UFSv2 = FFSv2
< 1287938598 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFSv2 = 64-bit FFSv1 + journaling, your call
< 1287938606 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :needed for partitions >1 TiB "but yeah".
< 1287938611 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :journaling. but uh FFSv1 is the default.
< 1287938616 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: also when it seems like the installer didn't accept your option
< 1287938618 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TURNS OUT IT DID
< 1287938623 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it put you to the "exit this configuration" thing
< 1287938625 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means it listened to you
< 1287938634 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: also
< 1287938638 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need to resize partitions
< 1287938640 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do it in the installer.
< 1287938643 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be very silly.
< 1287938645 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also probably not work.
< 1287938651 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: also get that usb stick with the guide and shit on. :P
< 1287938652 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck
< 1287938698 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gracias.
< 1287938701 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how hard can it be?
< 1287938704 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHHA
< 1287938706 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1287939721 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a data type made out of multiple other datatypes, how do you call it?
< 1287939749 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say an object that has an int, a hash, and a Factory in it
< 1287939757 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not an "union" is it?
< 1287939778 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all coexist at the same time (and are necessary for the big object's existence)
< 1287939782 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never was he seen again
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< 1287940357 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is installed. but that is about all i can say for now.
< 1287940365 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: no network/
< 1287940366 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't see my network adapter, alas.
< 1287940367 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*network?
< 1287940372 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: tried the guide? :P
< 1287940386 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet. wanted to make sure it didn't fux0r windows, for one thing.
< 1287940415 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: so the bootloader installed properly?
< 1287940420 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, guide i saved -- in html. will be a pain to read
< 1287940435 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NetBSD -- because you want your computer to feel like a toaster"
< 1287940446 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: well. you're in windows right?
< 1287940452 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: install w3m in cygwin
< 1287940453 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kept the FreeBSD MBR bootblock that is on this machine
< 1287940459 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w3m -dump the_file >the_text_file
< 1287940475 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably want to do it to the pkgsrc one too
< 1287940479 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will probably study the guide 'offline' for a bit first, but yes, that's a good idea.
< 1287940528 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i can download some pkgsrc pkgs while in windows and stick them on the usb drive first too, so that i have some tools that don't make me fnargle when i try to use them.
< 1287940554 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like my slogan though
< 1287940558 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: that sounds... ~
< 1287940561 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what ~ means right?
< 1287940563 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just sounds
< 1287940563 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~
< 1287940576 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the motion of a hand going ~ ?
< 1287940580 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1287940581 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although
< 1287940584 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is meant to evoke a gesture
< 1287940586 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just
< 1287940589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you try and look at it, mentally
< 1287940593 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not one a human could actually do
< 1287940596 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just... ~
< 1287940607 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: it's like
< 1287940636 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm just going to copy the apt index and the 20 packages over that I need to get my winmodem working, and then boot the Fedora LiveCD.
< 1287940647 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : luser: ok... that's a bit... well... um... ~
< 1287940703 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: anyway uh
< 1287940710 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first actual TCP/IP networking section in the manual
< 1287940712 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. actual hardware
< 1287940713 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is
< 1287940716 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :24.3. Connecting to the Internet with a modem
< 1287940721 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: just thought you should now
< 1287940729 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sure exactly *which* one you want actually
< 1287940733 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"24.4. Creating a small home network"?
< 1287940736 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.
< 1287940776 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well remember, I have run BSD at home before. for a long time.
< 1287940787 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not totally alien territory
< 1287940851 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for tools, it's mainly that i don't like vi
< 1287940925 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since ifconfig doesn't *list* any network devices besides lo0, i kind of know where i stand with that, anyway
< 1287940992 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: well, yes
< 1287940993 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but
< 1287940996 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :netbsd seems especially crazy
< 1287940998 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some areas
< 1287941001 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in a VM
< 1287941024 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: i'm fine with vi as long as i can use the arrow keys and ^C instead of escape
< 1287941035 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when either one of those doesn't work i become suicidal
< 1287941112 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well
< 1287941128 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got to be going now, but will adventure further with this, probably tonight.
< 1287941129 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1287941145 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye: bye
< 1287941148 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be here :P
< 1287941405 0 :catseye!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
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< 1287942160 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye has failed in his mission.
< 1287942164 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not pleased.
< 1287942358 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1960.html
< 1287942376 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the Riemann Hypothesis actually be unprovable?
< 1287942423 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since a non-trivial zero with real part /= 1/2 is a disproof, so if there are no disproofs of it, then it must be true.
< 1287942454 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obvious it can't be unprovable
< 1287942500 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So DMM made a MATHEMATICAL ERROR!
< 1287942528 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no, he made a joke.
< 1287942544 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a MATHEMATICAL ERROR!
< 1287942557 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DMM needs to teach maths and science. desperately.
< 1287942562 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he does
< 1287942571 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, he works for Canon.
< 1287942581 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You knowing that: Creepy
< 1287942586 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not really.
< 1287942604 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I archive binged IWC, remember?
< 1287942607 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, so it is in the first paragraph of his Wikipedia article.
< 1287942643 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's stated he works in image processing in the annotations at least once.
< 1287942666 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He was showing off an edge-finding algorithm he found.)
< 1287942701 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? HAHA YOU HAVE TO FIND IT NOW
< 1287942915 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Look at the new favicon goombas.
< 1287942926 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What total size are they?
< 1287942931 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25x32
< 1287942933 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And did you remove HP? :P
< 1287942936 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1287942944 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25x32... hmm.
< 1287942955 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That...
< 1287942959 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is terrible :P
< 1287942966 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLASH AWESOME
< 1287942972 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was expecting something like a square with legs below it and arms left and right
< 1287942974 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_10_telltale_signs_you_are_on_your_way_to_becoming_an_atheist_nerd
< 1287942975 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the favicon inside
< 1287942987 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get 0 out of 10, I think.
< 1287942990 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not some hideous mutant favicon creature that looks like a headless body below something irrelevant
< 1287943002 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rate it -7 / 1000000
< 1287943012 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Depends on the favicon :P
< 1287943024 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sucks terribly :P
< 1287943030 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially with codu.org because the hat has a fucking hat.
< 1287943037 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they move far too slowly, waht's with that?
< 1287943041 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what's
< 1287943044 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were much faster before.
< 1287943086 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I mention they're terrible and you should feel bad?
< 1287943110 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hat with a hat is awesome. Do not pretend otherwise.
< 1287943114 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're made of 100% pure win.
< 1287943132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 'Sok, I'll just upload WebSplak 1.0.
< 1287943139 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's exactly like WebSplat except one revision earlier.
< 1287943157 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You fail horribly. Alt-tabbing away no longer pauses the game.
< 1287943165 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest you rollback to whatever fixes both that and the now-terrible favicons :P
< 1287943165 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it does.
< 1287943168 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it doesn't.
< 1287943171 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidence: I just tried.
< 1287943178 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLY WTF IT DOESN'T
< 1287943181 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the hell did that happen???
< 1287943182 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHA
< 1287943189 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emergency rollback dude
< 1287943190 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the only way
< 1287943211 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Gregor, take the atheist nerd test while playing WebSplat.
< 1287943224 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: In spite of your idiocy, an "emergency rollback" would not remove the awesome new goombas.
< 1287943233 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I made a lot of speed fixes for Firefox later which probably broke that.
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< 1287943236 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1287943248 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well... roll back that one too, just to be sure.
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< 1287943291 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'll say it again, this time with flare: fuck you.
< 1287943302 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Also you have rabies.
< 1287943328 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And, uh, I think you mean flair.
< 1287943377 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope.
< 1287943389 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are on fire now.
< 1287943399 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixt.
< 1287943429 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, make the favigoombas into actual goombas!
< 1287943473 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Dude, I died because I was within a few pixels of the goomba.
< 1287943481 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'm pretty sure it's because the hat sticks out.
< 1287943484 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... sucks.
< 1287943634 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I quite like the new favigoombas...
< 1287943643 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because you're a commie.
< 1287944122 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, fix the collision mechanics with favigoombas.
< 1287944167 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was 5 images from completing WP's Pythagoras' theorem article and I died because my head was near its feet.
< 1287944173 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 476@1242D, and I died by not walking in to a dog.
< 1287944178 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Your collision detection sucks.
< 1287944217 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY DREAM IS DEAD
< 1287944235 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even add the hitpoint mechanic in!
< 1287944253 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: he did.
< 1287944254 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucked
< 1287944265 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did it suck?
< 1287944313 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it did
< 1287944318 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :felt like you lost after one hit
< 1287944325 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it became kinda easy
< 1287944370 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wait
< 1287944377 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: is collision detection always with the biggest form of your character?
< 1287944383 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because when you walk you're a lot wider!
< 1287944548 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isthatcherdeadyet's favigoombas are quite entertaining.
< 1287944623 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :287@393D, fuck this collision detection.
< 1287944659 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wow, they really hate thatcher. personally. a lot. don't they
< 1287944697 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems understandable...
< 1287944722 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: A) You're the same width walking as jumping and standing.
< 1287944730 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: B) It's always with the current image size.
< 1287944739 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'm unable to conjure up such vitrolic hate for a politician considering how slim the spectrum is.
< 1287944746 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, uh, at least we survived.
< 1287944747 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :]
< 1287944753 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/]/that line be gone/
< 1287944776 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: also: i don't like celebrating the death of anyone.
< 1287944779 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the misfortune of anyone.
< 1287944817 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, I suppose we who weren't there when she was in charge wouldn't have the same vitriol for her.
< 1287944825 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, they're both north-easterners. LIKE ME (not really)
< 1287944835 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i've just lived here approximately all my life, doesn't mean I'm One Of Them!)
< 1287944860 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't wish Bush would die or anything either.
< 1287944883 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect they would think Thatcher worse...
< 1287944892 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a fucking moron and he did a great job of ruining the USA's semi-sanity and prosperity, but I wouldn't wish anything like that on him. Certainly he should be punished, jailed, but...
< 1287944896 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes. But still.
< 1287944903 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, she devastated whole communities, ruined lives.
< 1287944918 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I can't imagine it. They'd have to blow up the country to make me wish for their death, most likely.
< 1287944929 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the disgustingly forgiving liberal type though.
< 1287944956 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tit-wank.com/ what a domain name to host mailing lists on.
< 1287944980 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,015.0 MiB of 3.1 GiB (31.84%) - 6 hours remaining
< 1287944983 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :la de dah
< 1287945053 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, accounts I've read elsewhere in the webosphere from people who were on the receiving end of her policies do seem to justify such hatred.
< 1287945071 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it, Thatcher destroyed the country.
< 1287945073 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not an idiot.
< 1287945130 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare Thatcher to Palin, then go "OH THANK GOD WE GOT THATCHER"
< 1287945144 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yeahno.
< 1287945148 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thatcher was probably worse.
< 1287945149 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe.
< 1287945157 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she wasn't incompetent
< 1287945157 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palin hasn't had any actual position of power.
< 1287945160 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :palin is
< 1287945168 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palin is ACTIVELY incompetent though.
< 1287945172 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, Thatcher wasn't an idiot; she was evil.
< 1287945175 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She wouldn't just sit on her hands going "Idonnowtf"
< 1287945179 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thatcher wasn't evil.
< 1287945180 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She would break everything.
< 1287945186 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She was a moron who didn't think properly.
< 1287945191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And she was selfish, greedy, etc.
< 1287945200 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less fits.
< 1287945207 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I cannot believe that she actively tried to destroy the UK for the sheer hell of it.
< 1287945208 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It really doesn't.
< 1287945216 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil is a very specific thing and it is not carelessness, selfishness, or greed.
< 1287945222 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps, then.
< 1287945260 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hitler was arguably not evil by that definition, though.
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< 1287945294 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes. Well. Only arguably.
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< 1287945405 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, Freespace 2 is a textbook example of Greenspun's Tenth Rule.
< 1287945492 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: There, I made the standing bounding box more precise.
< 1287945510 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaaaaay
< 1287945535 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, the collision detection will ALWAYS be box-box.
< 1287945535 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[// Parse a symbolic expression.
< 1287945535 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ These are identical to Lisp functions.]]
< 1287945541 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— sexp.cpp
< 1287945570 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And?
< 1287945590 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hence crows are, in fact, white.
< 1287945603 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*//
< 1287945605 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NO
< 1287945608 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POLYGON POLYGON
< 1287945638 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...things that are ridiculous: URL shortener administrators can get their servers suspended because *someone else* used them to *create a URL* to something illegal.
< 1287945651 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to destroy a URL shortener: Link it to copyrighted material, child porn, etc.; publicise links.
< 1287945682 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("I was arrested for copyright infringement and possession of child pornography!")
< 1287945707 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Now I'm in jail for life and have to pay £1,000,000,000. Oh, and there's some community service for the child porn, too."
< 1287945710 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*")
< 1287945920 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.1 GiB of 3.1 GiB (34.48%) - 5 hours remaining
< 1287945924 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: MAKE IT GO FASTER
< 1287945926 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*FASTER.
< 1287945932 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't HAVE polygons. I have sprites and boxes.
< 1287945941 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Your face doesn't have polygons.
< 1287945944 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has sprites and boxes.
< 1287945945 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION blows up the Netherlands.
< 1287945947 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That help?
< 1287945963 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: BTW, you do know that the usual game programming trick is to do collisions on boxes slightly *smaller* than each sprite?
< 1287945967 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That produces much better results.
< 1287945979 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I did not know, that, but consider it known now, lesse...
< 1287945991 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: In this case, I'd say the box would, for the player, not include the hat, and not include... uh, the nose or anything.
< 1287945998 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if the chest pokes out a little -- I don't recall -- that wouldn't be in it.
< 1287946006 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also shoes, if the shoes poke out; the poking-out bit you wouldn't include.
< 1287946016 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't have to do anything to the bottom since if that hits an enemy you'll kill it anyway.
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< 1287946467 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I have an important, Scotland-related question.
< 1287946473 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Do you guys really put pizzas in batter and then fry them?
< 1287946524 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read the article linked at the end of yesterday's log about Wall Street requiring Python.
< 1287946610 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be right that COBOL would be a good idea since it was designed for this purpose.
< 1287946728 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what would be the financial equivalent of "list comprehensions" or "co-routines". Do you have an idea?
< 1287946767 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure how law-code is meant to work.
< 1287947027 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how you are supposed to "substitution of Python or another programming language for legal English as a basis for some of its regulations". I wonder if a literate programming language might work better here (even literate Haskell??)
< 1287947100 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like i'm reading the ada wikipedia article
< 1287947109 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Try now.
< 1287947121 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: In a minute.
< 1287947170 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOAHWTFDON'TWTF
< 1287947198 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this is done with some of these regulations, then some of the legal disputes can be solved by computer; but it would still take a judge to determine if it is necessary to change the law.
< 1287947208 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not sure about pizzas.
< 1287947212 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haggis, definitely.
< 1287947217 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: WHAT
< 1287947217 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mars Bars, to an extent.
< 1287947218 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T REVERT IT
< 1287947219 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TELL ME
< 1287947221 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, whew, just caching issues :P
< 1287947225 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what waaas it
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< 1287947237 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was on a ... rather severe diet.
< 1287947242 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Image width was set to something silly)
< 1287947246 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I approve
< 1287947264 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Gregor is trying to fool himself.
< 1287947279 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, eat some battered pizza, it'll fatten you right up.
< 1287947298 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D
< 1287947363 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I have often been told that *I* will be battered, but I suspect that to be a simple coincidence.
< 1287947372 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl
< 1287947383 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :battered fried phantom hoovers
< 1287947391 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is anorexic
< 1287947392 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and it does appear to be a custom in Glasgow.
< 1287947392 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Sexy, threatening or predictive?
< 1287947397 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pixelrexic
< 1287947402 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Right, the person saying it is in Glasgow.
< 1287947406 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Clear thine cache :P
< 1287947413 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Sexy, threatening, predictive anorexia.
< 1287947421 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't hide
< 1287947424 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they enjoy battering things in all sense of the word in Glasgow, so it's not a big deal.
< 1287947446 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relevant:
< 1287947447 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=622130510713940545
< 1287947455 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The story of Karen Carpenter's anorexia, told with Barbies.
< 1287947518 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well..... I have had the idea of matrix accounting.......
< 1287947530 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...but that was in my irresponsible youth..."
< 1287947556 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT TORRENT
< 1287947563 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :74 KiB/s is not an acceptable speed!
< 1287947590 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always found the deep-fried Mars Bars considerably more distressing.
< 1287947620 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relevant and hilarious: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1227_041227_deep_fried_mars_bars.html
< 1287947630 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The researchers discovered similarly bizarre examples of calorie-laden fast food cuisine, such as batter-fried ice cream, pizza, and pineapple rings. ]]
< 1287947646 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if this is all Glaswegian, though.
< 1287947717 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am informed that 20 years ago it was a commonplace occurrence in Edinburgh, too.
< 1287947724 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the point of being normal.
< 1287947752 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The deep-fried Mars bar is believed to have originated in the northeast Scottish village of Stonehaven, following a bet struck between a chip shop owner and a customer. The Carron Fish and Chip Bar today sells as many as 300 deep-fried Mars bars a week. They cost 70 pence each (U.S. $1.38), or £1.70 (U.S. $3.30) when served with fries. ]]
< 1287947768 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[It’s also confusing a specific kind of piracy, (putting the entire work up online with proper attribution) to the kind of thing that is rather rampant for artists, namely, people stealing their work, and then the thieves remove the original artist’s name, and put THEIR name on it with THEIR copyright and say “don’t steal art”.]]
< 1287947774 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[["Encouragingly, we did also find some evidence of the penetration of the Mediterranean diet into Scotland, albeit in the form of deep-fried pizza," said Petticrew, director of the social and public health services unit of the UK Medical Research Council, a government health research body. ]]
< 1287947784 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next person to conflate piracy with plagiarism will get their head raped by a mechanical chainsaw.
< 1287947787 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have been warned.
< 1287947796 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a MECHANICAL chainsaw!
< 1287947856 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That quote is possibly the funniest thing I have read this week.
< 1287947995 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How... encouraging?
< 1287948004 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I always found the deep-fried Mars Bars considerably more distressing.
< 1287948006 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to try one.
< 1287948012 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to try one on a very deep level.
< 1287948117 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeeew....
< 1287948145 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, you didn't know about the deep-fried Mars Bars?
< 1287948304 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew about them.
< 1287948310 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I want to try one :P
< 1287948319 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still like matrix accounting and it is possible to make various equations with it........ Who guessed you might use Dirac notation in accounting, before?
< 1287948397 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... nobody.
< 1287948422 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, you are now promoted to the status of "god among men".
< 1287948442 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Congrats, you just gave zzo38 the ability to change matter at will.
< 1287948486 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like nFAI but WOR—
< 1287948500 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION becomes an Enhanced CWEB compiler.
< 1287948523 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't give me (or anyone else) "the ability to change matter at will".
< 1287948557 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd respond, but I'm too busy compiling.
< 1287948559 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor can I be any god, even if my title is "god among men".
< 1287948575 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just a title.
< 1287948583 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU I'M JUST A COMPILER
< 1287948636 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, but you got promoted.
< 1287948639 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are now a literal god.
< 1287948644 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't hurt us.
< 1287948661 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION poofs himself back into a Phantom_Hoover
< 1287948684 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK I don't hurt you.
< 1287948697 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's just hope zzo38 doesn't find a way to rewrite how information is stored. I bet that would last six hundred years and they'd all suck.
< 1287948703 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently
< 1287948920 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, actually I am not literal god. It is just a title.
< 1287948996 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I confer upon you the title of Literal God.
< 1287949079 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[A hardened computer hacker has been arrested on suspicion of writing a computer virus that systematically destroys all the files on victims' PCs and replaces them with homemade manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. Between 20,000 and 50,000 computers may have been infected.
< 1287949080 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Masato Nakatsuji, 27, of Izumisano, Osaka Prefecture, was quoted as telling police: "I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested."]]
< 1287949091 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol: [[He was collared in 2008 for violating copyright laws by creating a computer virus that replaced data with an anime image. He was serving a suspended sentence for that offense when he was arrested in connection with the latest virus.]]
< 1287949096 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how it was copyright infringement they got him for.
< 1287949119 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now I have that title. Of course it doesn't mean anything.
< 1287949125 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It does.
< 1287949130 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just don't see the Esoterick Truth yet.
< 1287949137 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will reveal itself -- in time. Then: be careful.
< 1287949245 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I would see if I had win a big spider 2.9 times as big as I am.
< 1287949257 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does this big spider thing come from
< 1287949279 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is just my own idea
< 1287949511 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When I was ill, I went looking for a doctor.
< 1287949512 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could not find anyone who did what I wanted.
< 1287949512 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I have worked to become the doctor I wanted to find."
< 1287949515 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololol
< 1287949526 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quacks
< 1287949580 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That is one day, I guess, it might or might not work.
< 1287949597 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: One day?
< 1287949600 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be good idea if you have no doctor, learn to be a doctor.
< 1287949605 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/day/way/
< 1287949649 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: He had a perfectly good set of actual doctors at his disposal. What he wanted was a quack, and thus he has become a "naturopath", i.e. anti-scientific quack.
< 1287949677 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The U.S. state of Maine, in its eternal helpful idiocy, has decided that this is enough to qualify one to be a doctor, and thus he is, actually, a "Dr.", but not a *doctor* in any real sense at all.
< 1287949679 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: O, that is what he wanted.
< 1287949694 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1287949701 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Then the state of Main is idiot.
< 1287949737 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Main/Maine/
< 1287949787 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, insofar as a state can be an idiot.
< 1287949822 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287949833 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cod u org; why?
< 1287949838 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cod, you, orgy.
< 1287949851 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was me switching back to my bouncer :P
< 1287949869 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opinions on the new bounding box?
< 1287949914 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I will totally try it now
< 1287949916 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try the FUCK out of it.
< 1287949919 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you, dwarf fortress
< 1287949928 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: Then play WebSplat instead?
< 1287949930 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I've tried it, all its fucks will be removed.
< 1287949936 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you, websplat
< 1287949944 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Should I rename it to Websplat to take advantage of the web-splat webs-plat ambiguity?
< 1287949954 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: No, give it an actual name :P
< 1287949966 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Spiderman; you see, the web, spiders...
< 1287949968 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorKillsElliott: The Movie: The Game
< 1287949973 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It still doesn't pause by the way
< 1287949981 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it doesn't, your cache is outdated.
< 1287949986 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, uh, I'm anorexic. Yeah. Cache.
< 1287949988 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like anorexia though.
< 1287949996 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gahahaha he fattens up when he falls
< 1287949999 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like Gregor
< 1287950001 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/falls/crouches/
< 1287950002 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give it a slashfic name
< 1287950008 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web/Splat
< 1287950062 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I half-wish I participated in such stupidity as Facebook just so I could play this on it...
< 1287950072 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only half.
< 1287950079 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's ... scary on Facebook :P
< 1287950087 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does in fact work, but there are some inaccessible images :(
< 1287950104 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Before long you'll be adding site-specific hacks :P
< 1287950106 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone doesn't have friends to add
< 1287950109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, it's loading really slowly this time. Guess cause it's not cached.
< 1287950129 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It doesn't pause if you alt-tab *before* it's finished loading, FWIW.
< 1287950131 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that that's a big deal.
< 1287950148 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohyeah, I guess it doesn't X-D
< 1287950157 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The other reason for slowness is that I don't have all the modules put in one file, so it has to download them and load them one-by-one.
< 1287950164 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When things are a bit more stable, I'll compile.
< 1287950167 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Umm, when I fall down on --
< 1287950170 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the column with Pakistani Police
< 1287950177 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I get one of those icon images from below
< 1287950180 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of ... shake downwards.
< 1287950192 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... inexplicable.
< 1287950219 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scroll-type shaking or avatar-type shaking? Also, have all the images finished downloading, sometimes things'll look weird before they do (for obvious reasons)
< 1287950252 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Like, I go up and down repeatedly while going down slowly.
< 1287950262 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like my character's jumping at LUDICROUS SPEED for a very short distance.
< 1287950264 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, yes, they have.
< 1287950271 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well THAT'S wonky.
< 1287950277 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome, right?
< 1287950283 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Ooh, also when I walk into "Religious" from standing on Afghanistan next to History.
< 1287950285 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1287950293 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: (That's *after* I get rid of all the icons.)
< 1287950336 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It, uh, happens in most situations.
< 1287950356 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't test this change on havenworks :P
< 1287950419 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: lawl
< 1287950467 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, can repro.
< 1287950471 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know the issue too.
< 1287950472 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fixfix*
< 1287950611 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearing cache is a bad idea when you're about to go to havenworks X_X
< 1287950632 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Dude, we need to preserve the current havenworks homepage.
< 1287950634 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it gets updated?
< 1287950635 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Won't be fair.
< 1287950640 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :archive.org
< 1287950655 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly it appears to have last been updated in 2009-03-31, but still.
< 1287950656 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe I fixed it, further testing ...
< 1287950660 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Doesn't store every day.
< 1287950675 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, didn't fix it X-D
< 1287950924 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, NOW fixed it.
< 1287950932 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*testtest*
< 1287951035 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try now.
< 1287951132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Doing so.
< 1287951257 0 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287951263 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You broke my fucking interwebs.
< 1287951268 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect!
< 1287951276 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1287951279 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise
< 1287951280 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering what window.disconnect() did.
< 1287951295 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"6 days remaining"
< 1287951298 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"7 days remaining"
< 1287951302 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY TORRENT HATES YOU
< 1287951332 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Vonlebio
< 1287951359 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Labia von Lebio
< 1287951397 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom von Labia
< 1287951408 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear god, this channel is full of 13-year-olds.
< 1287951423 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, only you.
< 1287951430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I mention labia?
< 1287951438 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Labia.
< 1287951456 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It still doesn't pause if you're tabbed away when it starts :P
< 1287951466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Uhh, dude, moving in a direction just makes me go fat.
< 1287951469 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... slide.
< 1287951474 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, now it doesn't.
< 1287951476 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was awesome though.
< 1287951523 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The bounding boxes seem better, but a hatted-favicon still killed me without strictly touching any part of me :P
< 1287951524 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better, though.
< 1287951610 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Getting the little tag-icons from posts is much easier now. Thank god.
< 1287951664 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an easy way to mass-move files?
< 1287951677 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like mv *.foo foo/
< 1287951690 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: That was what happens when not all the images are downloaded ;)
< 1287951694 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: ... yes. mv *.foo foo/
< 1287951707 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Surely you mean :) or are you just being creepy :P
< 1287951712 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: lol
< 1287951712 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, that's not what that does, IIRC.
< 1287951733 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: That moves every file matching the pattern *.foo into the directory foo/
< 1287951745 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries.
< 1287951766 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
< 1287951772 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, surely it expands to "mv foo.foo bar.foo foo/"?
< 1287951773 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Sorry, I'm gay.
< 1287951774 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what?
< 1287951776 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: Yes it does.
< 1287951782 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv ... x moves all ... to x.
< 1287951794 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall it not working once...
< 1287951805 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: If it didn't work, it's because you're made of fail.
< 1287951807 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-D
< 1287951837 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am obviously made of fail, then.
< 1287951843 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Phantom_Failer
< 1287951861 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much fail that you can't spell "failure" *tisk tisk*
< 1287951870 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, as in "one who fails".
< 1287951888 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: WAY TO FAIL AT RECOGNIZING A JOKE ABOUT FAILING FAIL FAIL FAIL
< 1287951909 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, WAY TO FAIL AT NOTICING ME BEING SELF-IRONIC
< 1287951925 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: FAIL TO FAIL AT FAIL FAIL FAILING FAIL
< 1287951987 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 365@597Dammit.
< 1287952036 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see whut i did there
< 1287952047 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :?
< 1287952064 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I DO AND THE LAWLZ
< 1287952084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I... what :P
< 1287952101 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a high score system.
< 1287952103 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEED
< 1287952110 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION implements.
< 1287952271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: noo
< 1287952274 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Don't destroy the IRC-based fun
< 1287952275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Besides
< 1287952278 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How will you stop it being exploited?
< 1287952284 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't.
< 1287952287 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well then.
< 1287952313 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conveniently, your distaste for it coincides with my own laziness.
< 1287952328 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I knew your laziness would prevail.
< 1287952381 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Question: What explanation is there for only dogs having corpses? :P
< 1287952394 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: quintopia hasn't drawn crushed-favicon-guy yet.
< 1287952396 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In-game explanation.
< 1287952413 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: YOU TOTALLY NEED TO DISTORT THE FAVICON IMAGE SERVER-SIDE SO HURR
< 1287952414 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Joking)
< 1287952420 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In case the hurr didn't give it away)
< 1287952432 0 :sshc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
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< 1287952529 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I've just realised that HavenWorks is totally dormant :(
< 1287952531 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How sad is that
< 1287952539 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sad at all :P
< 1287952547 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But it's iconic!
< 1287952563 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, uh, the World Trade Centre! Wait...
< 1287952570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jews did havenworks
< 1287952646 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: God DAMMIT I fell on to a dog and it killed me.
< 1287952704 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably fell /next/ to it and thought you fell /on/ it :P
< 1287952982 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 381@448D FUCKING
< 1287952983 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAT
< 1287952983 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CREATURE
< 1287952984 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BITCHES
< 1287952989 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's walking on my corpse
< 1287952994 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit
< 1287952995 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's DANCING
< 1287952996 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my corpse
< 1287953021 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On *Gregor's* corpse.
< 1287953053 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1287953054 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It likes your death.
< 1287953054 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot.
< 1287953054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine
< 1287953118 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that need to die:
< 1287953120 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- kinetic typography.
< 1287953175 0 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287953184 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: http://codu.org/websplat/ NAO
< 1287953191 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1287953198 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also hi! :P
< 1287953203 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I tried it just now that's why I logged in
< 1287953207 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: HAVENWORKS
< 1287953210 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://havenworks.com/
< 1287953212 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the only acceptable page to play on
< 1287953221 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: Bring Chrome.
< 1287953223 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its pretty cool, except the winning screen is super annoying lol
< 1287953225 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, what, you mean the swirly Powerpoint things?
< 1287953234 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: ITYM super-awesome.
< 1287953239 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Super awesome.
< 1287953242 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: You see YouTube videos a lot with it.
< 1287953259 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Where they take someone's speech and put little words on the screen and oh look they're using that word to build the new sentence and it's rotated.
< 1287953270 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: why the hating on kinetic typography?
< 1287953277 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the letters are going in spirals and you're zooming in and it's swiped off because they've dug themselves into a hole and now the text is building itself like a Scrabble board and
< 1287953278 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK
< 1287953279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT
< 1287953279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHIT
< 1287953286 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1287953288 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did my name get set to alise again
< 1287953293 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i /nick'd to it
< 1287953293 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you seriously expect consistently good æsthetics in *YouTube*?
< 1287953303 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: no but you get it from the "artsy" people
< 1287953306 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "designers"
< 1287953310 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on ~vimeo~
< 1287953313 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unspeakably irritating
< 1287953325 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I assume the webpage logo enemies are kinda like goombas, and the dog? skeleton enemies are like turtles except you don't have a shell?
< 1287953331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latest horrific example: http://vimeo.com/15412319
< 1287953340 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: They're all just goombas :P
< 1287953349 0 :Harpyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Harpyon
< 1287953362 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: not exactly.. the webpage logo ones will fall off ledges, the dogs won't
< 1287953369 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: well, ok, yes.
< 1287953371 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because dogs are stupid.
< 1287953377 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, *favicon goombas
< 1287953381 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is their name :P
< 1287953390 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :favicon thank
< 1287953391 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you
< 1287953405 0 :Harpyon!~Harpyon@ti0031a380-0423.bb.online.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287953410 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :66.66%!
< 1287953412 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: another stephen fry on language: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHQ2756cyD8
< 1287953417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precision has helped the torrent client avoid being satanic.
< 1287953430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i love stephen fry and all.
< 1287953432 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: but that "kinetic" "typography"
< 1287953436 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a load of crap.
< 1287953472 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, HavenWorks is rather better than Townships for me.
< 1287953489 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with so much crap floating around, isn't it better to just ignore it than to go around being all upset about it? :)
< 1287953518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: It... you have no idea how impossible it is. Scroll down past the columns.
< 1287953522 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The columns aren't even a half of it.
< 1287953536 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i'm not upset, it's just irritating when it gets on reddit's frontpage!
< 1287953557 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right
< 1287953560 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, no, in terms of browser abuse.
< 1287953566 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah.
< 1287953623 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why does Chrome make it so difficult to bookmark WebSplat?
< 1287953769 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: You just need to re-enable the off-by-default bookmarks bar.
< 1287953790 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's "Townships"?
< 1287953802 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The longest article on the English Wikipedia.
< 1287953813 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a bizarre article to be the longest.
< 1287953821 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, Townlands.
< 1287953838 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, List of Townlands of County Cork.
< 1287953872 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes more sense.
< 1287953912 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 7 images at the very top and 2 at the very bottom, and 5600 lines of townlands in between.
< 1287953972 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it that the wikipedia logo can't be collected?
< 1287953985 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, some weird DOM thing, I assume.
< 1287954001 0 :Harpyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Harpyon
< 1287954001 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only images that are tags can be collected.
< 1287954025 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That logo is an tag with a CSS background-image
< 1287954032 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, you should try Townlands. The long fall is very relaxing.
< 1287954033 0 :Harpyon!~Harpyon@ti0031a380-0423.bb.online.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287954074 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: How long does it take to load? :P
< 1287954087 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a few minutes
< 1287954091 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A while, but that was on Firefox.
< 1287954114 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds a bookmark bar *just* for websplhaahht
< 1287954124 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have you know, Gregor, that I hate bookmark bars.
< 1287954130 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew no it looks strange *disables*
< 1287954145 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I did the same for "Kick ass" :P
< 1287954160 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Eh?
< 1287954169 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, where's the bookmark bar option?
< 1287954175 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: http://erkie.github.com/
< 1287954177 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: You drag the WebSplat! link.
< 1287954179 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I hate them too but this is worth it
< 1287954180 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hmm, what did you do to the scroll constraint thing?
< 1287954183 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't flicker any more.
< 1287954192 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I've just been copy-pasting the javascript :P
< 1287954193 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, how do I enable it on Chrome in the first place?
< 1287954199 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*JavaScript
< 1287954209 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Protip: Spanner
< 1287954219 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I made it assert the viewport when the browser scrolls itself as well as when the character moves.
< 1287954229 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how Gregor has time to do grad school and this
< 1287954236 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, trawled through options, didn't find it.
< 1287954242 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Spanner, not preferences.
< 1287954247 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tools".
< 1287954248 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Ctrl+B
< 1287954252 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Ctrl+Shift+B.
< 1287954258 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: *Shift+
< 1287954267 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No shift.
< 1287954269 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks.
< 1287954272 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes shift.
< 1287954273 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise is right.
< 1287954274 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on Chrome right now.
< 1287954275 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+B shows or hides the bookmark bar.
< 1287954276 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+B does nothing.
< 1287954278 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+Shift+B works.
< 1287954281 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are wrong.
< 1287954284 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on Chrome right now and Ctrl+B shows or hides the bookmark bar ...
< 1287954286 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Version?
< 1287954291 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Always show bookmarks bar Shift+Ctrl+B"
< 1287954305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 7.0.517.41; stable. I'm a weenie.
< 1287954306 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes a screenshot as you're per usual being an ass about it.
< 1287954336 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, WebSplat on Chrome for Townlands is slower than Firefox, I think.
< 1287954352 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: btw my son likes your game too
< 1287954360 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want to get a picture"
< 1287954361 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: omg kick ass is amazing.
< 1287954363 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D
< 1287954372 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want the guy to get the pictures"
< 1287954372 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I get it, you're on a different build.
< 1287954372 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: 'twas my inspiration.
< 1287954378 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, link?
< 1287954379 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift+Ctrl+B works; Ctrl+B does not.
< 1287954385 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my menu, it shows "Shift+Ctrl+B", not "Ctrl+B".
< 1287954385 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Googling "kick ass" is useless.
< 1287954387 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am on the version I said.
< 1287954389 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: http://erkie.github.com/
< 1287954417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: kick ass is easier though
< 1287954419 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just rotate and fire
< 1287954424 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then accelerate a bit to get the rest
< 1287954433 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It's also impossible to lose, and has a lot less work to do to be possible :P
< 1287954447 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: WebSplat doesn't work on IE9 beta. *whew*
< 1287954455 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: OMG OMG OMG
< 1287954459 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Call the player Dominic
< 1287954463 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOM... inic
< 1287954468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shot*
< 1287954476 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... *ba-dum ching*
< 1287954492 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Or Dhtmljohn.
< 1287954494 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no.
< 1287954592 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: By the way, why does crouch-jump work?
< 1287954598 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to DOUBLE-jump to get above platforms.
< 1287954602 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not just that you're lower.
< 1287954624 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I decided to mentally rewrite "double-jump" as "air-jump" *shrugs*
< 1287954630 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: lawl
< 1287954631 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Besides, without that in some cases you're completely friggin' stuck.
< 1287954639 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, of course, I like it.
< 1287954644 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just wondering *why* it worked.
< 1287954669 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Originally it only worked as a proper double-jump, I actually changed it to be air-jump.
< 1287954705 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION proudly puts a note saying WebSplat is IE9-failure-certified.
< 1287954734 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SUNDAY WORSHIP
< 1287954736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 30 AM
< 1287954740 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE ARE SOME
< 1287954741 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUESTIONS
< 1287954742 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT CAN NOT
< 1287954743 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BE ANSWERED
< 1287954745 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BY GOOGLE"
< 1287954746 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lies!
< 1287954763 0 :gurksen!~hannes@ip-90-186-5-203.web.vodafone.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287954781 0 :gurksen!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :?
< 1287954857 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: So what's the current high score? 600 something?
< 1287954903 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I can totally beat that.
< 1287954908 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Still only 400 something.
< 1287954913 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Suuuuure.
< 1287954915 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Er no.
< 1287954916 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: On HavenWorks?
< 1287954917 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I can totally beat that.
< 1287954920 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, oh
< 1287954924 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grr.
< 1287954926 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You said at least 500 something.
< 1287954932 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I did? :P
< 1287954950 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:19:03 533@1495D
< 1287954952 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes.
< 1287954967 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, looka there X-D
< 1287954971 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has bad memory :P
< 1287955116 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287955132 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: two people came into the bar saturday night dressed as mario and luigi. i gave them a link to websplat and told them it worked in IE9 >_>
< 1287955156 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you tell them that? :P
< 1287955168 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was drunk, and you never informed me that it didn't
< 1287955185 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you gonna fix it?
< 1287955199 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if it's trivially simple *shrugs*
< 1287955228 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it should be a fairly high priority. IE still has the lion's share of the browser market...
< 1287955314 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :question: if 7.2% of someone's messages in a channel contain a reference to another person in that channel, is that "infatuation" or "obsession"?
< 1287955377 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes, but if you multiply userbase by intelligence it's a tiny minority.
< 1287955464 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unknown runtime error"
< 1287955468 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha no.
< 1287955469 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IE9 = fail.
< 1287955526 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it works in standards mode.
< 1287955538 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for all 0% of the pages that load in standards mode on piece-of-shit-IE9, it'll work.
< 1287955539 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : seems like it should be a fairly high priority. IE still has the lion's share of the browser market...
< 1287955548 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, in #esoteric, all our hobby projects are optimised for user base.
< 1287955553 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there's money to be made.
< 1287955783 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.9 GiB of 3.1 GiB (93.51%) - 9 minutes remaining
< 1287955784 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot!
< 1287955789 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'm thinking about trying to create an IM client that doesn't suck.
< 1287955801 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: G'luck with that.
< 1287955813 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW. Sita Sings the Blues, 1080p24, lossless? 25G.
< 1287955820 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What kind of IM client? And what ideas do you have?
< 1287955822 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Of all the battles, m'friend, IMs aren't the one.
< 1287955838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: And IRC.
< 1287955852 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I would especially love a general communication client that doesn't suck at one or the other.
< 1287955861 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It is advisable for sanity that you just use Pidgin: a sucky one, yes, but -- you will have to use libpurple and it will suck, or you will have to write your own and HAHAHAHAHA the protocols.
< 1287955862 0 :Harpyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1287955866 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 minutes for 200MB?
< 1287955870 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote an IRC client.
< 1287955871 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: IRC is a battle that ought to be fought separately.
< 1287955877 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's a different beast entirely.
< 1287955878 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: The protocols are seperate libraries that libpurple happens to use.
< 1287955885 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, group conversations don't count; they're *small*.
< 1287955891 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes.
< 1287955895 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: fierce competition for seeders
< 1287955900 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First and foremost: the buddy list is a ridiculous UI concept.
< 1287955906 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I can get 800 KiB/s, but I'm getting 100 KiB/s.
< 1287955909 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Your face is a ridiculous UI concept.
< 1287955913 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, the presence of it as a seperate window.
< 1287955915 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: aww, sucks to be you
< 1287955923 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I demand asylum.
< 1287955937 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not in any position to grant it
< 1287955957 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what I'm currently thinking: On the side of the single UI window, you have the list of connected people. This is your buddy list slash tab bar.
< 1287955964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: all Swedes represent Sweden.
< 1287955965 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a IRC client and you can see if it is good or if it is suck also like everything else both IRC and IM.
< 1287955973 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: sorted by most recently clicked?
< 1287955981 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehh, I dunno
< 1287955993 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a mental concept of "conversations I am having" separate from "people".
< 1287956020 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1287956041 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Perhaps a "create new conversation" button? And it's instead a conversation list?
< 1287956054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So now talking to new people is inconvenient?
< 1287956062 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: UI DESIGN IS HARD
< 1287956064 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh hell, I don't know. Anyway it's a really boring battle to fight and Pidgin "works".
< 1287956073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND I HATE PIDGIN
< 1287956077 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I STILL USE BITLBEE
< 1287956079 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It sucks, yes, but no more than the actual protocols :)
< 1287956085 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287956126 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Has it started to suck less recently?
< 1287956131 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: He really does dance on your corpse X-D
< 1287956133 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ...well, sort of.
< 1287956146 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It certainly sucks, hugely and immensely. But you can configure it to... stop annoying you.
< 1287956164 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: From a UI standpoint. Its IM library as far as I know doesn't suck too bad.
< 1287956165 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't understand people who are so bothered by innocuous things :P
< 1287956174 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh it does. (But not so much now.)
< 1287956182 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Firstly, disable the sounds for buddy online/offline. Then make sure you install the libnotify thing and set it up for messages only. Set the buddy list to compact mode.
< 1287956194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Set the minimum height of the chat line to 1. Hide the formatting toolbar in the chat window.
< 1287956199 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Configure tabs/no tabs according to your preference.
< 1287956209 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaw, I'd been wanting to avoid libnotify entirely.
< 1287956217 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: libnotify is good for you. srsly
< 1287956222 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You could use guifications but hahahaha
< 1287956228 0 :Harpyon!~Harpyon@ti0031a380-0423.bb.online.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287956245 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You could try ayttm :P
< 1287956277 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Is it actually any good? libnotify, that is.
< 1287956312 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The API is fine, albeit iirc it has some dbus stuff in it (but everything has dbus nowadays...). People misuse it and send markup and shit even if the server says it doesn't show markup, but the servers are clever enough to make things just work.
< 1287956318 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How they are displayed is up to you.
< 1287956329 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a way you can avoid \outer with TeX, by doing things like \def\b#1{\csname newtoks\endcsname#1} and like \def\c#1{\dd#1}\let\dd=\newtoks
< 1287956340 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You could use the "usual" one, notification-daemon.
< 1287956353 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Or you could use Ubuntu's notify-osd.
< 1287956357 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also avoid problems with \outer by using \input
< 1287956358 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Or you could code your own.
< 1287956368 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: (Although that last one will require dbus and stuff and thus be slightly painful.)
< 1287956416 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So I'd say that libnotify is actually alright. Obviously it could be done in simpler ways, but it's not all that bad.
< 1287956453 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Don't you use Xfce?
< 1287956457 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would imagine you already have libnotify installed.
< 1287956463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: USE flag.
< 1287956478 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah.
< 1287956486 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'd enable it. :P
< 1287956538 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What's wrong with \outer?
< 1287956544 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know because I don't like other IRC clients either, that is why I wrote my own.
< 1287956551 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I don't like the \outer command.
< 1287956556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What's wrong with \outer?
< 1287956564 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The command itself.
< 1287956569 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Anyways. My conception on how things should work is very simple: do as little as possible without sucking.
< 1287956586 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ITT: Unix
< 1287956591 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup!
< 1287956617 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Note: Unix sucks.
< 1287956628 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: If I was designing TeX, instead of Knuth, it would not have a \outer command. The \outer command can cause a lot of problems.
< 1287956641 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What problems?
< 1287956665 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can type \let\outer=\relax to change a file to make it notusing \outer but that won't change things that are already loaded from the format file
< 1287956700 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: That's the only problem.
< 1287956719 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287956726 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: People can't make it do as little as possible. :P
< 1287956730 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: That it prevents you from typing \def\qb#1{\expandafter\newtoks\csname first.#1\endcsname\expandafter\newtoks\csname second.#1\endcsname}
< 1287956730 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, you should record the song in http://objects.activeworlds.com/aw/sounds/worlds3.zip
< 1287956745 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why would i want to type that?
< 1287956754 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise is alise again
< 1287956762 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mere mistake.
< 1287956764 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :elliott
< 1287956765 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm back in my role as Captain Obvious again
< 1287956766 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yeah, not sure why that happened.
< 1287956766 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It is just hypothetical. But it is one of the things.
< 1287956777 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: BTW, I told Sine that you only listen to gangsta rap.
< 1287956785 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/alise/elliott/
< 1287956785 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [upset]
< 1287956847 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What genre are the songs in http://djsethgold.com/demo/DjsethGoldLive.mp3 ?
< 1287956876 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that make me rage: "songs" for "tracks"
< 1287956909 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what the fuck at that.
< 1287956915 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(15 seconds onwards or whatever)
< 1287956920 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs
< 1287956930 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, are you... are you DJing?
< 1287956938 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1287956942 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just some guy with the same name
< 1287956950 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not listen to Sgeo's lies.
< 1287956961 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that voice is not Sgeo's.
< 1287956966 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know that in your heart.
< 1287956982 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Your MOM's voice is not... I don't know
< 1287956986 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not something, anyway.
< 1287956994 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Sgeo's?
< 1287956999 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, and thank goodness.
< 1287957192 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Have you ever used st?
< 1287957194 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://st.suckless.org/
< 1287957265 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah. It has some flaws as of yet.
< 1287957284 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: And it doesn't do Unicode, which is a massive failing.
< 1287957297 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, true.
< 1287957432 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION listens to the Logication music <3
< 1287957439 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm trying to run OS X in a VM without hardware virtualisation.
< 1287957439 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discuss.
< 1287957459 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("You're insane" will suffice.)
< 1287957460 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone needs to make a logication clone
< 1287957462 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo Apple logo
< 1287957466 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Woo?
< 1287957474 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, the spinner...ticker...vague progress thing.
< 1287957476 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, the rules might be under copyright or something
< 1287957480 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is actually working!
< 1287957484 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you can't copyright a game
< 1287957497 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's the deal with Arimaa in that case?
< 1287957511 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vague question; unanswerable.
< 1287957518 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I have totally conquered Steve Jobs.
< 1287957526 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression that Arimaa was under some sort of copyright
< 1287957529 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have caged your OS inside a window on my Toshiba laptop! Mwahahaha!
< 1287957533 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The pieces, certainly.
< 1287957537 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The design, that is.
< 1287957543 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Their wording of the ruleset, yes.
< 1287957543 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1287957544 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The abstract game?
< 1287957545 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.
< 1287957551 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, makes sense
< 1287957555 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shit slowest boot ever.
< 1287957573 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With logication, the design of the pieces ... is kind of hard to avoid copying
< 1287957574 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I write X terminal program some day, maybe I can look at "st" codes to see how it is done. And then write it in Enhanced CWEB. It should support bitmaps fonts, single and double width, but no URL mode. I have different opinions what features a X terminal program should have and not have.
< 1287957579 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe not the exact pixels
< 1287957604 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're baiscally line segments pointing in whatever ddirection
< 1287957610 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one stationary piece that's a circle
< 1287957611 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Then they are uncopyrightable.
< 1287957616 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok
< 1287957632 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Of course the US courts are insane, so YMMV.
< 1287957653 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287957687 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Google's app engine, I can only make a certain number of web apps?
< 1287957698 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_______; will you stop asking questions
< 1287957702 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION growls
< 1287957702 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to their fucking site and see for yourself
< 1287957714 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :growls? have you recessed to a pre-human state?
< 1287957715 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*regressed
< 1287957716 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what it was last time I checked
< 1287957730 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you seriously growling at them for only offering a limited *FREE* allocation of limited resourcse?
< 1287957731 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*resources?
< 1287957735 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your sense of entitlement that big?
< 1287957742 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or were you growling at me for telling you to look it up...
< 1287957758 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Think this will ever boot up?
< 1287957772 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, as long as I can tear down old apps... but last I checked, I can't
< 1287957795 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can delete your existing applications via the Admin Console if you want to create more, but you will not be able to re-register an application ID."
< 1287957799 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that's ok then
< 1287957823 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I think last I checked, that last bit might have been what offended me, even though it does make sense
< 1287957836 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it has a verbose startup
< 1287957838 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries that
< 1287957858 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "warning: skipping personalities in blacklisted kext com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X"
< 1287957861 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :APPROVE SO HARD
< 1287957871 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hahahah.
< 1287957888 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : DAMMIT! How did they ever think to DISABLE the anti-piracy module?!
< 1287957899 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : CURSE YOU, HACKINTOSHERS!
< 1287957927 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it might stop more casual... even the casual people would just use whatever the geeks provide
< 1287957944 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So once someone figures out how to disable it, it's worthless
< 1287957949 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Anyways, I've totally got Sita Sings the Blues in 1080p24, and I can't play it back.
< 1287958006 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arimaa license is overly restrictive especially that you are not allowed to release source-codes of programs related to it. Also I don't like that it is patented anyways, I don't like patents. (I also don't like the pieces; I would prefer flat pieces with numbers written on it?)
< 1287958084 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....lolwhat at not releasing source-code of Arimaa programs
< 1287958102 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe just code of programs that connect to the server? (Not that that's entirely sensible either...)
< 1287958172 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, hey, is the marquee tag a moving platform in WebSplat!?
< 1287958178 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No, it's "not at all": [What is allowed is:] "Development of Arimaa related software for educational, research or personal use. However you may not hire, contract or commision someone else to develop the software; may not sell the software or release the software publicly in any form (source code or executable)."
< 1287958191 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smacks elliott and Phantom_Failer simultaneously.
< 1287958208 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....
< 1287958215 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That.... makes no sense
< 1287958258 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's completely brainless, of course. "Use of Arimaa in a computer science course" is 'allowed', and "there is basically no restrictions on the use or distribution of Arimaa related products or services", yet you're somehow still not allowed to give out "publicly" any code in any form.
< 1287958258 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, what did eliott do?
< 1287958282 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Suggested that first :P
< 1287958286 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The license is very clearly not written by a lawyer.
< 1287958310 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, so is it?
< 1287958320 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a site I tried it on with a similar effect.
< 1287958323 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: Anyways, I've totally got Sita Sings the Blues in 1080p24, and I can't play it back.
< 1287958324 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5.1 FLAC?
< 1287958341 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo: No, it's "not at all": [What is allowed is:] "Development of Arimaa related software for educational, research or personal use. However you may not hire, contract or commision someone else to develop the software; may not sell the software or release the software publicly in any form (source code or executable)."
< 1287958343 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... is that legal?
< 1287958358 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell Arimaa is shite anyway.
< 1287958371 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: It isn't, and it's not possible to do that.
< 1287958387 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shite license != shite game
< 1287958389 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It is in Platform WebSplat :P
< 1287958394 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I never implied that.
< 1287958398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please stop being stupid.
< 1287958408 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how it's a bad game
< 1287958413 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like it
< 1287958416 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOES
< 1287958417 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't see how Active Worlds is terrible either.
< 1287958423 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend of mine has gotten 550 and hasn't died yet.
< 1287958428 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: UH OH :P
< 1287958431 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh man if he beats it.
< 1287958516 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't really know about legal; the license http://arimaa.com/arimaa/license/current.txt is very confusing. It just lists examples, I guess you're expected to extrapolate from those.
< 1287958530 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Of course.
< 1287958539 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How big is it again?
< 1287958543 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25G.
< 1287958552 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game is _patented_?
< 1287958573 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what if Logication is also patented?
< 1287958574 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Awesome.
< 1287958587 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Got a Blu-ray burner? Wonder how much stuff actually listens to the spec :P
< 1287958592 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nope!
< 1287958598 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't even have a CD burner.
< 1287958603 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Erm, DVD.
< 1287958611 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a CD burner. That's well over a decade old.
< 1287958611 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I'm coming up to 400 in HavenWorks
< 1287958612 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Srsly?
< 1287958614 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lawl.
< 1287958616 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Easy.
< 1287958619 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... Need a job. :P
< 1287958619 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: "What is claimed is: A method for playing a strategic board game wherein the game is played by two or more players on a game board that is gridded to designate spaces such that pieces that are identifiable as belonging to each of the two or more players are positioned within, and moved among, the spaces; the method comprising the steps of: [rules of the game in patentese]"
< 1287958631 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so when does it get hard?
< 1287958658 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "apparatus" for playing the game is also patented.
< 1287958671 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: After 400.
< 1287958687 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is all Arimaa stuff
< 1287958694 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to know about Logication
< 1287958715 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the claim 1 in the Arimaa patent is so generic, I find it hard to believe it doesn't apply to at least some other board games.
< 1287958728 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Nobody patents their games.
< 1287958734 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much.
< 1287958736 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not computer ones at least.
< 1287958752 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because the long straight runs and the little clusters are exhausted?
< 1287958766 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: No, because the chance is simply that you're going to die at one point.
< 1287958768 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if you fall.
< 1287958780 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First level of logication is guaranteed win to one of the players
< 1287958781 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's absurd
< 1287958789 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming perfect play)
< 1287958803 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The levels are presumably under copyright, right?
< 1287958806 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently the boot takes ten minutes. Heh.
< 1287958807 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes.
< 1287958813 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they're super-simple, though, no.
< 1287958814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But: yes.
< 1287958818 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION leaves it to boot
< 1287958843 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1287958878 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Project GIPF? It is a series of six games, all deterministic full-information games played on a hexagon board.
< 1287958895 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the GIPF project
< 1287958921 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hit 500.
< 1287958935 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Now get 600.
< 1287958956 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about on a page specialized for the game?
< 1287958959 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just easy points
< 1287958967 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: HavenWorks.
< 1287958980 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1287959038 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :541.
< 1287959055 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287959092 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opera seems to be having some problems again
< 1287959152 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Don't stop :|
< 1287959162 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :580.
< 1287959173 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Don't stop :|
< 1287959190 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Failer: Remember to tell us the time, too, if you do die. But don't.
< 1287959208 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :600!
< 1287959210 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about an infinite page
< 1287959215 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That wouldn't work.
< 1287959220 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at 1737.
< 1287959225 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I must stop now.
< 1287959229 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm?
< 1287959229 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye.
< 1287959234 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye fail
< 1287959237 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bastard
< 1287959242 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause of fail
< 1287959254 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he died
< 1287959258 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't want to admit
< 1287959293 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: an "infinite" page could work though
< 1287959298 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not codewise.
< 1287959303 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, yes it could
< 1287959314 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Please explain to quintopia why the DOM doesn't let it work.
< 1287959350 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that game where platforms are moving upward, but they have holes in them, and you have to get the ball through the hole before it falls off the top of the screen, and it just keeps getting faster and faster, but would go on forever if you never died?
< 1287959363 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I know infinite games are possible.
< 1287959367 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not an idiot.
< 1287959374 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just shakes his head grimly rather than actually contributing to the discussion.
< 1287959377 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you do not understand is that doing this in JS would be impossible because it takes ages to enumerate the DOM and that ist he only way.
< 1287959380 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is the
< 1287959407 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the only way to what
< 1287959408 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1287959424 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Detect new elements appearing on the page.
< 1287959433 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is also the only way to do an "infinite" page.
< 1287959488 0 :Phantom_Failer!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1287959500 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see it. why can't you have an "infinite" game where the screen never scrolls down, platforms just go off the top of the page, are made invisible, and at some random point in the future, are made visible again at the bottom?
< 1287959528 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Because WebSplat doesn't work like that?
< 1287959533 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: an "infinite" page could work though
< 1287959536 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not with WebSplat, it couldn't.
< 1287959554 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know enough about the mechanics to see it
< 1287959564 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do.
< 1287959594 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're gonna make me read code aren't you? :/
< 1287959655 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It scans all the DOM elements at start up.
< 1287959661 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After that, their positions, and existence, is fixed.
< 1287959664 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They cannot move.
< 1287959665 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They cannot appear.
< 1287959667 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They cannot disappear.
< 1287959672 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of this would break WebSplat.
< 1287959724 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reappears*
< 1287959731 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what if there are no visible dom elements at all on startup?
< 1287959733 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Elements preexisting in the DOM that move around screw you up.
< 1287959739 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Then it... doesn't work.
< 1287959741 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what if all the platforms were created by websplat
< 1287959742 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Elements added by websplat code can move.
< 1287959744 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The playfield is empty,f orever.
< 1287959747 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It doesn't create any...
< 1287959748 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*empty, forever.
< 1287959750 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes, yes.
< 1287959753 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I meant page elements.
< 1287959754 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's trolling
< 1287959755 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sprites don't count.
< 1287959762 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I'm trolling?
< 1287959768 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By... stating the facts about how WebSplat works?
< 1287959769 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously?
< 1287959780 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sprite-like platforms are exactly what i'm talking about here
< 1287959783 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't say they don't count
< 1287959786 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You failed to say that entirely.
< 1287959799 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo said "what about a page designed for WebSplat". Then you said "but what about an infinite page".
< 1287959809 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he said that
< 1287959812 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Obviously* I assumed that, since you were continuing what Sgeo said, you meant *an actual page* not a modification of WebSplat.
< 1287959836 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it could be a page designed for websplat, with websplat-like javascript code on it
< 1287959853 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that uses websplat-like methods for moving sprite-like platforms
< 1287959886 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :code *made to talk to websplat*
< 1287959922 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That... might work.
< 1287959924 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe.
< 1287959927 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I very much doubt it.
< 1287959939 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not unless you patched WebSplat's functions and *that* will be basically forking WebSplat, except it'll break a lot.
< 1287959943 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, Gregor needs to obfuscate his Javascript, and doing so will provide 100% protection against persons like you.
< 1287959965 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/s
< 1287959973 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Besides it's Vmware is NOT FREE. They give you a cripple version to make you happy about but not full features like VirtualBox." ;; and that's why there's no non-open source version of VirtualBox!
< 1287959976 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl.
< 1287959982 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: "persons"
< 1287960010 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parsons
< 1287960012 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parson
< 1287960014 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parson Gotti
< 1287960033 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was about to say a book 1 spoiler
< 1287960297 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if this thing would boot OS X for the lulz.
< 1287960479 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's somehow motivated by lulz, it might
< 1287960498 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally.
< 1287960513 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Can I come to Sweden to use you guys' internet for a while? I, uh, think I need to download a *different* 3 GiB ISO.
< 1287960513 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it like TOTALLY might
< 1287960543 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Opera's builtin BitTorrent client decent?
< 1287960557 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hehe, I could download it for you, but I'm not sure if that helps since you need to get it from here afterwards
< 1287960569 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Sneakernet?
< 1287960571 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1287960575 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather airmailnet.
< 1287960606 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be _faster_?
< 1287960613 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if nothing else, I can download it and gloat at how fast it went
< 1287960640 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I like this MIDI
< 1287960648 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dc15
< 1287960670 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://daychilde.com/midiguy/Dc15.mid
< 1287960705 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Dc* usually mean "In the Windows Recycle Bin"?
< 1287960732 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What?
< 1287960737 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a filename
< 1287960743 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What?
< 1287960752 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does windows rename files in the recycle bin to DcSomenumber?
< 1287960762 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know.
< 1287960764 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://daychilde.com/midiguy/Dc15.mid <-- this is beyond terrible
< 1287960804 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287960819 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. I love it.
< 1287960854 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dc7.mid for some haunted house-ish music
< 1287960860 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Came from a game called Murder Mansion
< 1287960878 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, but you have terrible taste.
< 1287960935 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not recommending davy[1].mid
< 1287960941 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you now have more faith in my taste?
< 1287960956 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't clicked it and won't
< 1287960989 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i lied. dear god that is terrible
< 1287960998 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? I have some taste!
< 1287961079 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot mentioning gerudo
< 1287961085 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same basic theme
< 1287961087 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're nice
< 1287961095 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z64gerud.mid is the one I'm listening to now
< 1287961125 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1287961147 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it's a bit slow
< 1287961199 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GerudoVmix.mid is nice and fast... perhaps a bit too much
< 1287961279 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.tnlc.com-midi-children.mid
< 1287961432 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason some of these look almost like URLs is that in Active Worlds, people could include sounds that come from elsewhere (not on the object path)
< 1287961980 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Seems that it's possible to make Pidgin suck less. Who knew?
< 1287962362 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, lolwat?
< 1287962371 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enough to let me switch back from Digsby?
< 1287962444 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm all-the-crap
< 1287962591 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even hogging RAM like I'd expect from such a thing. Incredible.
< 1287962992 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back
< 1287963016 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, it is written in C.
< 1287963022 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Generally* such programs don't hog *all* the memory.
< 1287963034 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Tell that to Gnome.
< 1287963046 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Gnome isn't actually that much of a memory hog IME.
< 1287963059 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But anyways. Quite astoundingly, it appears to be acting quite reasonably all-around.
< 1287963063 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Slow yes. Memory hog no.
< 1287963095 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: In fact apart from Chrome and VirtualBox, Pidgin is my top memory-using process... by whatever hideously inaccurate standard System Monitor uses.
< 1287963100 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then nautilus and X-Chat.
< 1287963103 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, that's really inaccurate.
< 1287963105 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shared libraries etc.
< 1287963115 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Liferea appears to be using more here.
< 1287963125 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Liferea is *Mozilla*.
< 1287963133 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC.
< 1287963143 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, it's Webkit and C.
< 1287963165 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I swear that it's XUL.
< 1287963170 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope.
< 1287963172 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely Webkit.
< 1287963175 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some other popular feed reader.
< 1287963199 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Domain: xul.fr
< 1287963200 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Side logo: RSS Ajax
< 1287963205 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How To Build a Universal Feed Reader
< 1287963205 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C) 2007-2008 By Denis Sureau
< 1287963205 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We will detail the steps in building a feed reader recognizing all formats, by using the possibilities of XML PHP 5."
< 1287963217 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of these technologies makes any sense in context with the others!
< 1287963265 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: FWIW: OS X in a VM on a platform without virtualisation *sucks*.
< 1287963335 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unless your system specs are close to the ones used in Apple machines (a.k.a. non-cutting-edge), you will have problems."
< 1287963347 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, all those Apple computers running silly outdated i3/5/7s :P
< 1287963354 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok so that is from 2008)
< 1287963386 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I can't even remember why I wanted to do this.
< 1287963402 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1287963428 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pain, agony, sorrow, etc?
< 1287963478 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well yes. But it will be fun to have OS X to torture in a VM.
< 1287963492 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Consider it a nicotine patch for ex-Applers.
< 1287963599 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor:
< 1287963603 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:42:40 ARGH I suck at this game apparently X-D
< 1287963603 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:42:45 181@153D
< 1287963617 0 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287963652 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Also: 20:45:00 Gregor: I have to say, I would appreciate an ability to look up/left/right/down a certain amount, like in some platformer games.
< 1287963653 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1287963657 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly i feel that i need to write a 3d modelling program simmilar to google's sketchup, but BETTER
< 1287963670 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did this channel become #nih?
< 1287963697 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1287963710 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I tell Opera that it choose the wrong link for its fast forward feature?
< 1287963719 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe I should just write my own browser
< 1287963788 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: NIH = Not Invented Here (syndrome)
< 1287963797 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know anything about VirtualBox?
< 1287963811 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is or was a Sun thing at some point
< 1287963866 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I hate people:
< 1287963867 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "satisfyBefore I get this thing rolling -- I want to tell you one thing. The tone which I’ve written this article may differ , its just to make it sound like a commercial product. I have no intentions of selling it or making profit out of it. This project will remain , free and I’ll be writing a guide on how to make your very own boot-132 disc so that you can pretty much help out the rest !
< 1287963867 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Introduction -- Presenting Empire EFI. The one of the kind boot loader which all. Do take a look at what Empire EFI as to offer. Unlike other tutorials and guides and solutions , you don’t need a hackint0sh or Macintosh running OSX . Its possible to use this disc on a PC running Windows or Linux"
< 1287963874 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ?
< 1287963878 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, VirtualBox.
< 1287963885 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a feeling you'd be terribly unuseful.
< 1287963943 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boot-132?
< 1287963949 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: things.
< 1287963975 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, my statement was less ambiguous!
< 1287963986 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although equally unhelpful for someone in your position, admittedly
< 1287963994 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I wasn't even playing off that.
< 1287964000 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just silly OSx86 stuff.
< 1287964005 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You know the ridiculous thing? I have a fucking Macintosh!
< 1287964014 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could just boot it up.
< 1287964015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nooooo.
< 1287964017 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to have a VM.
< 1287964248 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha "Mac OS X even regulates processor activity between keystrokes, saving milliwatts of power."
< 1287964255 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Accompanying image: http://images.apple.com/macbookair/images/enviro_efficiency_milliwatt20101020.jpg
< 1287964284 0 :calamari_!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1287964326 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a chance that Apple might attempt to lock down OSX to iOS levels?
< 1287964344 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit
< 1287964363 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: not really.
< 1287964367 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too much effort and expense.
< 1287964385 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they haven't really added any new anti-other-people's-machines code in a while, i don't think
< 1287964401 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant as in, only approved programs
< 1287964439 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death
< 1287964448 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Chance of that is absolutely zero.
< 1287964460 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still a fucking *computer*.
< 1287964476 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The Macintosh *created* the computer software industry in 1984.
< 1287964512 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every indie OS X developer in the world -- and there are a lot -- would go to Steve Jobs' house and kill him, his wife and his children if that ever happened.
< 1287964522 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you read that in the weekly world news?
< 1287964539 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Well, okay, "The Macintosh *created* the computer software industry in 1984." was slightly hyperbolic.
< 1287964548 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there was no *desktop* software industry beforehand.
< 1287964557 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mostly because... there was no desktop.)
< 1287964573 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but they were always smaller
< 1287964580 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: eh?
< 1287964594 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :macs had a lot of presence in schools because of donations
< 1287964604 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Don't you mean Apple IIs?
< 1287964609 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both
< 1287964614 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference?
< 1287964617 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: The original Macintosh was way too expensive for schools.
< 1287964621 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Uh, everything, more or less.
< 1287964629 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scratch the "more or less"; everything.
< 1287964634 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, both had a keyboard and a display.
< 1287964640 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not if they were given to the school
< 1287964656 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I have never read anything about the *original* 1984 Macintosh being used in schools.
< 1287964656 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the schools always had apple hardware, never pc
< 1287964663 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything after that, sure.
< 1287964666 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple II, sure.
< 1287964668 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue on the original
< 1287964671 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macintosh 128K/512K? No.
< 1287964681 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about things like mac se
< 1287964688 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1287964692 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no clue what we used
< 1287964694 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, whatever.
< 1287964698 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was a menu
< 1287964712 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://productsdb.riscos.com/images/riscos.gif!
< 1287964718 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah so it was a smart strategy, a lot of people use mac because that's what they used in school
< 1287964721 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been in front of a RISC OS machine once I think.
< 1287964722 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we had heterogenous Windows and ... menu thing
< 1287964730 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: lol, not *now*
< 1287964732 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe back then, yes.
< 1287964736 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they could afford it. unlikely.
< 1287964742 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RISC OS, maybe?
< 1287964746 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC OS is awesome, did I mention that? Awesome.
< 1287964751 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd need to see a screenshot
< 1287964760 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://productsdb.riscos.com/images/riscos.gif
< 1287964761 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just linked one.
< 1287964771 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC OS was the first to introduce text anti-aliasing to computer interfaces.
< 1287964776 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1287964779 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: Crazy filenames!
< 1287964780 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was textual
< 1287964784 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: With a menu?
< 1287964792 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A GRUB-like menu
< 1287964797 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a graphical GUI menu