< 1285718692 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1285718734 0 :Kordalien!~chatzilla@adsl-71-141-89-187.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285718759 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: koka means cocaine in pl < 1285718760 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;] < 1285718909 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously we have other words for it since koka is already taken :) < 1285718937 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, it's kokaina exactly < 1285719029 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit weird < 1285719090 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because we have some words that sound alike... um: smak - taste, some ppl say penga - money and tryknąć - to push < 1285719152 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of pieniÄ…dze - money and nacisnąć - to push < 1285719249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :koka coca, ok? < 1285719254 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1285719286 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how would you explain smak, penga and tryk < 1285719337 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well penga and variants is common in several languages < 1285719347 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :german Pfennig, english penny < 1285719378 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we've got zÅ‚oty < 1285719379 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;] < 1285719401 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and zÅ‚oty means - golden < 1285719423 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we've got kron[ea], but peng[ea]r is the word for money < 1285719466 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :czech money is also kronor (with weirder spelling, kurona or something like that) < 1285719476 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungarian pengö (actually should be a long accent on the o) < 1285719499 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SGU on tonight < 1285719520 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.empi2.pl/obudowa/slownik/files/banknoty2.jpg kickass kings < 1285719521 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the beer brand slots (I think it's danish) is actually a form of golden, it would make sense for it to be a cognate for zloty < 1285719524 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably watch on Hulu tomorrow < 1285719547 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, slot(t)? means castle < 1285719591 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well more likely, anyhow < 1285719630 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it does, but that doesn't mean that's the root they're referring to < 1285719638 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well true < 1285719643 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1285719653 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :smak, tryck? < 1285719737 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they _could_ just be loanwords < 1285719743 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how < 1285719762 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also smeck or something like that in german, i think < 1285719769 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweden was all over europe pwning around, a few hundred years ago < 1285719774 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1285719775 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1285719777 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1285719804 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it accounts for some weird loans of words and culture < 1285719809 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drücken or something like that in german < 1285719823 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(history) < 1285719834 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh Poland was pwned by everyone < 1285719995 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, 1.30, time to sleep again < 1285720061 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glasgeo: Young dies < 1285720084 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the heck we need sleep for, if there's maintenance to be done why can't it just be *done* instead of requiring hours of hibernation < 1285720092 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it even aired yet! < 1285720100 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glasgeo: because spoilers never leak to the internet < 1285720101 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unpossible < 1285720109 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: because it makes us hallucinate crazy shit < 1285720113 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, do you want me to spoil FS for you? < 1285720119 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: BUT WHYYYY!? < 1285720120 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glasgeo: nope < 1285720129 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why would you spoil SGU for me? < 1285720130 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the body's only defence is to make us even 1/4 aware of it happening and also to forget as much as possible < 1285720136 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glasgeo: because i'm a bastard < 1285720142 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glasgeo: also, I'm lying < 1285720145 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :through my teeth, no less < 1285720158 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although Young might just die, I have no idea, I don't know a single thing about it < 1285720160 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1285720163 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sick < 1285720213 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has homework he needs to do :/ < 1285720241 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what I said was more of a threat, really < 1285720247 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously though, why does lack of sleep cause hallucinations of crazy shit? < 1285720250 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1285720252 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know you're not evil enough to < 1285720258 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except accidentally < 1285720264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you'd never see the end of shit from me if you did :) < 1285720271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: who knows! < 1285720279 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I demand answers < 1285720280 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he accidentally humanity < 1285720290 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there probably are answers, just we don't know them < 1285720297 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is no universally agreed biological definition of dreaming." < 1285720298 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1285720318 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[In 1952, Eugene Aserinsky identified and defined rapid eye movement (REM) sleep while working in the surgery of his PhD advisor. Aserinsky noticed that the sleepers' eyes fluttered beneath their closed eyelids, later using a polygraph machine to record their brainwaves during these periods. In one session, he awakened a subject who was wailing and crying out during REM and confirmed his suspicion that dreaming was occurring.[4] In 1953, Aserinsky and his a < 1285720319 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvisor published the ground-breaking study in Science.[5]]] < 1285720322 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the heck did it take us that long to realise? < 1285720359 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik, no-one's figured out yawning yet either < 1285720371 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: THAT VIRUS IS TRANSMITTABLE OVER TEXT DAMMIT < 1285720373 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION yawns < 1285720378 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IRL) < 1285720393 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, your irc-brain barrier is failing < 1285720395 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what we need is a language where the word for yawning is like < 1285720398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdfoijsgdhklmjxxx < 1285720401 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we'd need have to worry < 1285720406 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god now i'm yawning when looking at that < 1285720408 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S UNSTOPPABLE < 1285720426 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in #haskell, they call it yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw < 1285720434 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i'm pretty sure the at least pop science theory is that dreams are your brain sifting through memories and deciding what to junk or not and the like < 1285720454 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus accessing them, and your brain translates this into a semi-coherent experience as it tries to make sense of the crazy < 1285720460 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: really? (also FUCK YOU) < 1285720465 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess not :P < 1285720485 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sure, brain defrag... just do it in the background dammit < 1285720491 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad theory: the dream world is the real one, we're just hallucinating this one ;D < 1285720516 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INCEPTION? < 1285720518 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also ancient) < 1285720524 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ur doing it wrong < 1285720527 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I N C E P T I O N < 1285720536 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: the star wars holiday special is canon < 1285720540 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every single bit of it < 1285720543 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: IRC strips kerning information < 1285720554 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep yaaawning < 1285720581 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: kerning now also makes you yawn < 1285720591 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f u < 1285720592 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keeeerning, yaaaawning < 1285720594 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_61s62WKVio vs pl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seUsXbPkiL4 xD < 1285720596 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE YOU SO MUCH < 1285720623 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaalise < 1285720632 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gjeeeeesp < 1285720655 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gäsp < 1285720661 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blerh < 1285720667 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my surname is Gasperowicz < 1285720668 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;d < 1285720677 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1285720679 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate the word "gasp" < 1285720756 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE ALL ONOMATOPOEIAS < 1285720779 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no < 1285720783 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: this ä is pronounced e though < 1285720788 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasp is not the sound < 1285720797 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasp sholud be: sap < 1285720823 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the sound that dogs make is: hau hau < 1285720834 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: WhoTF makes a sound vaguely similar to "sap" while gasping >_O < 1285720843 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you make that sound, go to a hospital. Immediately. < 1285720843 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pollocks < 1285720870 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, srsly, it's written like this < 1285720880 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, sleeping over yawning it was < 1285720926 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like "hah" < 1285720935 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1285720956 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah now i'm yawning for real < 1285720968 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yawn -> zieww < 1285721009 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if he can put alise to sleep over IRC < 1285721061 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for alise to respond with a remark indicating that's all Glasgeo does < 1285721085 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION  < 1285721100 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a remark indicating that's all Glasgeo does < 1285721232 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointment over failure to follow use/mention distinction < 1285721265 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i eat pasta < 1285721309 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: remark indicating disappointment over < 1285721346 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use of insect obliteration device on alise < 1285721358 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :death < 1285721395 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The use–mention distinction is especially important in analytic philosophy.[3] The standard notation for mentioning a term in philosophy and logic is to put it in quotation marks. Notating using italics might require a potentially infinite number of typefaces.[4] < 1285721398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ludicrous :D < 1285721582 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incest obliteration < 1285721722 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :insect obliteration! ahahahaha oh wait < 1285721971 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my zangband compilation sometimes writes "incest" instead of "insect" < 1285722021 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you've said < 1285722025 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zangband is for luzers < 1285722045 0 :Quadlex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your face is for losers < 1285722046 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zandbang < 1285722049 0 :Quadlex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. Reflex. < 1285722073 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zangband = more fun than vanilla angband < 1285722077 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :angband > nethack < 1285722094 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: nethack >>> angband < 1285722098 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1285722102 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :angband is just a wimp game for losers, it even has a bot that can complete the game < 1285722103 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack is unplayable < 1285722104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fucking easy is that? < 1285722104 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crawl >>> nethack < 1285722112 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of goddamn cat < 1285722117 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you can kill it < 1285722119 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or los eit < 1285722120 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lose it < 1285722122 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or get a horse < 1285722125 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any number of things < 1285722139 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, minimize the window when you leave the computer unattended? < 1285722141 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1285722164 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1285722174 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glasgeo: shut the fuck up < 1285722182 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Let me make this easy for you. Angband: yeah, there's a bot to play that. < 1285722193 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nethack: TAEB can get down a few levels... most of the time... < 1285722199 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can do sokoban... < 1285722209 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it successfully reach sokoban? < 1285722236 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by going down levels until it reaches sokoban < 1285722238 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then entering sokoban < 1285722251 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: boring < 1285722263 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, Xom is never boring! Play Crawl! < 1285722270 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: not boring < 1285722276 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glasgeo: crawl is a shitty game < 1285722286 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, just because you hate the view < 1285722293 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, i played it too < 1285722306 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially ais' complaint about monsters with super-attacks that they rarely use < 1285722307 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unbalanced < 1285722311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack is far better designed < 1285722345 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack is simple and hard < 1285722367 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack isn't simple in the boring rogue sense, it's a rich game < 1285722452 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the footv bot again < 1285722455 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only good part of crawl < 1285722455 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1285722457 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fightclub < 1285722457 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :roaring bog < 1285722458 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sequell < 1285722459 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1285722463 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :varmin? < 1285722544 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice roguelike food idea: corpses start out raw, then mature into an edible state, then go rotten < 1285722552 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps only for a certain race or whatever < 1285722601 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So corpses are more like fruit? < 1285722632 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1285722646 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :explanation could be that it's a species that likes its corpses partially rotten < 1285722647 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not totally < 1285722659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nice thing about nethack is how simple combat is < 1285722664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately that's also a point of boredom < 1285722670 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but complex battle planning isn't so fun < 1285722674 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something in-between < 1285723225 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/index.php?title=Heat < 1285723232 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is at absolute zero in a conservative CA :) < 1285723236 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1285723238 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is still heat < 1285723249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover logreading: ^ work that into the "real-physics" CA :P < 1285723253 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glasgeo: You, remind me of that tomorrow. < 1285723254 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1285723300 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I remember myself... < 1285723416 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY ME PAY ATTENTION < 1285723417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY ME PAY ATTENTION < 1285723417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY ME PAY ATTENTION < 1285723417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY ME PAY ATTENTION < 1285723419 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELIJGLKJSGDFGJSDFKGSHGKSJLDFG < 1285723420 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1285723424 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for logreading :P < 1285723431 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ LOOK UP ^^^ < 1285723445 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vvv LOOK DOWN vvv < 1285723517 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/index.php?title=Overweight_spaceship < 1285723518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An overweight spaceship (or OWSS for short) is a would-be spaceship similar to the lightweight spaceship, middleweight spaceship and heavyweight spaceship, but longer. On its own an overweight spaceship is unstable because the three cells at its top do not die off like the corresponding sparks at the top of the smaller spaceships. Nonetheless, it can be escorted by true spaceships to form a flotilla. < 1285723519 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1285723536 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/index.php?title=Spaceship_flotilla < 1285723583 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Everything else", what a great category < 1285723710 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You never heard of OWSS before? < 1285723763 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285723790 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In June, 2010 Dave Greene constructed the first true knightship in Life, which is based on Gemini and travels at a velocity of (4096,8192)/c35567490." < 1285723798 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=406&start=25a#p2578 < 1285723875 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now try to play these computer game "CGA Collection"!! (It is not quite finish yet, sorry) http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/GAMES/cgacoll.zip < 1285723894 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Gemini was a true knightship? < 1285723903 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That had the replicator bits disabled for some reason < 1285723950 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and he has studied the Long Life rule." ;; what's this? < 1285723951 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glasgeo: wut? < 1285723960 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a knightship, knigtship is < 1285723965 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*knightship < 1285723968 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A knightship is a spaceship of type (2m,m)/n (that is, a spaceship that moves two cells horizontally for every one cell it moves vertically). Knightships must be asymmetric and their period must be at least 6, which makes searching for them using programs like lifesrc very difficult. An "almost knightship" was found on March 23, 2004, which would be a period 6 knightship if it weren't for three cells that are incorrect in its sixth generation.[1] < 1285723969 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, 'knightship' may refer to any spaceship that travels in an oblique direction (not diagonally or orthogonally). The first oblique spaceship to be discovered, Gemini, was found in May, 2010 with a velocity of (5120,1024)c/33699586. In June, 2010 Dave Greene constructed the first true knightship in Life, which is based on Gemini and travels at a velocity of (4096,8192)/c35567490.[2] < 1285723981 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :replicator bits disabled? what? < 1285724007 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I thought gemini was .. for some reason, not itself a replicator, but could be turned into one < 1285724013 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that I may be mixed up < 1285724020 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean Spartan? < 1285724029 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a computer + constructor without an appropriate replicating program < 1285724033 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :separate issue < 1285724041 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, "true" knightship < 1285724041 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gemini is a self-removing oblique replicator spaceship < 1285724044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has been modified into a knightship < 1285724048 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight. < 1285724049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye. < 1285724051 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1285724051 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye < 1285724449 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition, I have been assigned to work on a PXE Linux module. How do I send a UDP packet with that? < 1285724874 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1285724879 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a GoL compiler? < 1285725115 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo! < 1285725130 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can now bruteforce a list of all usernames at my school [and everyone has a username] < 1285725399 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generated ones? < 1285725436 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on last name and first and middle initial < 1285725459 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still looking for an actual list < 1285725466 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to start bruteforcing stuff < 1285725503 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about umlaut? < 1285725687 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ümläüt < 1285725825 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/H%C3%AB%C3%A4v%C3%BF_M%C3%ABt%C3%A4l_%C3%9Cml%C3%A4%C3%BCt_D%C3%A4%C3%BF, argh. < 1285725892 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From usernames, I can now go to full names < 1285726055 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nö wäÿ! < 1285726306 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll NEVER guess MY full name from my username. < 1285726612 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION side attacks Gregor < 1285726631 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Side ... channel attacks? < 1285726635 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gareth, Rex Oregon? < 1285726651 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1285726660 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gareth, Rex Gorbinald < 1285726662 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. < 1285726669 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one actually makes sense. < 1285726670 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First was right. < 1285726679 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: King of Oregon? < 1285726684 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1285726688 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1285726703 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION channels a richards < 1285726748 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lousy latin grammar. itym Oregonis. < 1285726767 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Garethus, Rex Oregonis. < 1285726919 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Latin Sine Flexione, you fool. :P < 1285726960 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Latino < 1285726977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, in that case your pedantry is more than valid. < 1285727009 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lex muphriana < 1285729811 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a Underload interpreter in TeX < 1285729862 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : : is \begingroup and ! is \endgroup < 1285730265 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1285730292 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-40-139.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1285733339 0 :antivigilante!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1285733455 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1285733537 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1285734121 0 :antivigilante!~antivigil@63-225-203-9.phnx.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285734714 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1285737826 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1285737857 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1285737947 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/aXWH < 1285739233 0 :antivigilante!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1285739352 0 :antivigilante!~antivigil@63-225-203-9.phnx.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285739945 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1285741119 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285741424 0 :Joseph1!~User@c114-77-164-164.fitzg3.qld.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1285741832 0 :Joseph1!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1285742184 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have just corrected a serious bug in the Underload interpreter. Fixed version: http://sprunge.us/jLSD < 1285742375 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When it asks for the filename, type the filename of Underload program (extension .ul is assumed). Program output is sent to file called underload.out < 1285742683 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285743733 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1285743969 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-13-34.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285744187 0 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-24-19-39-178.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285744209 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1285744329 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1285744335 0 :hailtothethief!~oh@97-115-142-152.spkn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285744359 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1285744554 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1285744569 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285746108 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1285746536 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1285747199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1285747200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1285749245 0 :Kordalien!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1285750618 0 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-15-61.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1285751798 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1285752091 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1285752304 0 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-15-61.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1285753986 0 :antivigilante!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1285754037 0 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-32-110.resnet.ucsb.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1285754782 0 :hailtothethief!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1285755223 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1285756662 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1285760022 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Later < 1285760988 0 :kwertii!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: bye < 1285761913 0 :antivigilante!~antivigil@63-225-203-9.phnx.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285762618 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkkyKZVzug < 1285763674 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1285764229 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285765029 0 :sftp_!~sftp@79.174.35.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285765066 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1285765479 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285765518 0 :sftp_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1285765897 0 :alise!~alise@91.105.65.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285766227 0 :Glasgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1285766460 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello sweethearts <3 < 1285766722 0 :Quadlex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1285767297 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Quadlex, you new? < 1285767973 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to make tab completing a pain, hi everyone < 1285768018 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1285768412 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make tab-completing a pain too. we're not alone :. < 1285768451 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gralise < 1285769659 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ... < 1285771074 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1285771103 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.35.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285771662 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1285771687 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285771849 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285772352 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1285772436 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1285772515 0 :Kordalien!~chatzilla@adsl-71-141-89-187.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285772948 0 :Harpyon!~Harpyon@ti0031a380-0390.bb.online.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1285772988 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grails < 1285773011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides to design a simple RISC. < 1285773054 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1285773086 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired of powers of two. Why not a 24-bit processor?!?!! < 1285773119 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285773271 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made 15-bit one < 1285773320 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how practical 24-bit is in hw if you did some fun stuff < 1285773323 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you're the hw expert, ansewr < 1285773325 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*answer < 1285773480 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: that's totally not answering < 1285773873 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285773901 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1285774134 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: :| < 1285774260 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: your RoadRunner bullshit is over < 1285774262 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_(computer) < 1285774265 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meet the new king. < 1285774274 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cray is back, bitches. < 1285774282 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it looks awesome: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/JaguarXT5.jpg < 1285774301 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: sry < 1285774303 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was cooking < 1285774310 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: LESS COOKING MORE ANSWERING < 1285774337 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1285774357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Roadrunner < 1285774420 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that 24b would act pretty simmilar to any other architecture < 1285774539 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: but RAM is based on powers of two, right? < 1285774543 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps not < 1285774555 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there's nothing actually inherent in a power of two bitsize is there? < 1285774685 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: although a 24-bit computer could only address 16 megs of ram :P < 1285774713 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: unless you used two words per address, then it'd be 256 terabytes, which is a nice number < 1285774831 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: comment, HW slave < 1285774906 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285774939 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1285775073 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More CA thoughts! < 1285775110 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i said stuff for you in the logs < 1285775136 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:20:25 http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/index.php?title=Heat < 1285775136 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:20:32 everything is at absolute zero in a conservative CA :) < 1285775136 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:20:36 wait, no < 1285775136 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:20:38 there is still heat < 1285775136 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:20:49 Phantom_Hoover logreading: ^ work that into the "real-physics" CA :P < 1285775141 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Work as in "work heat preservation in". < 1285775151 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sort of heat-energy equivalence. So on. < 1285775157 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So forth. < 1285775304 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:11:07 --- nick: Sgeo -> Glasgeo < 1285775348 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1285775355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? < 1285775560 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285775649 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words fail me on that one. < 1285775705 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making a conservative CA reversible would presumably entail constraining the rules such that the number of cells that change can be no more than the number of existing ones... < 1285775783 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: WHY DO WORDS FAIL YOU < 1285775786 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE NEED REALISTIC CA PHYSICS < 1285775797 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Otherwise you could have a perpetual motion machine. < 1285775801 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without food. < 1285775804 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S UNPOSSIBLE < 1285775812 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, on Sgeo's nick change. < 1285775830 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perpetual motion is possible in this universe, anyway. < 1285775841 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free energy is the impossible one. < 1285775897 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1285775926 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I DON'T WNAT TO BE PSIBLE < 1285775949 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you have just outlawed gliders! < 1285775998 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285776010 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No! The gliders can eat food. < 1285776015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To keep going. < 1285776091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Pick a number of bits. < 1285776107 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not gliders, then. < 1285776115 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're burning fuses. < 1285776125 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Fine. < 1285776127 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO BE IT < 1285776143 0 :augur_!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1285776154 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when did you turn into Stephen Wolfram? < 1285776184 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS UNIVERSE IS *NOT* BASED ON A CA < 1285776186 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT IS WHY IT IS INFERIOR < 1285776188 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE MUST BUILD ONE THAT IS < 1285776190 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND TRANSFER INTO IT < 1285776194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN SHED OFF OUR PHYSICAL BODIES < 1285776199 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1285776199 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL OF THEM; THE REVOLUTION SHALL BE AUTOMATIC < 1285776203 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO CONSENT WILL BE NECESSARY < 1285776219 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYONE'S BODIES WILL BE UNNECESSARY THEY SHALL BE A 100X100 PATTERN OF CELLS IN THE NEW UNIVERSAL ORDER < 1285776266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"While many people call the GNU system GNU/Hurd this is not strictly true. The kernel is GNU Mach not the Hurd. The Hurd is a series of servers which run on top of the microkernel, GNU Mach. Both the Hurd and GNU Mach are part of the GNU project while the Linux kernel is an independent project." < 1285776267 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SILLY PEOPLE < 1285776290 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why bother with replicating real physics to a boring degree? < 1285776318 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASDFG < 1285776329 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anyway, computation requires energy loss AFAIK. < 1285776357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Length: 4525166592 (4.2G) [application/x-iso9660-image] < 1285776357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saving to: `debian-L1-hurd-i386-DVD1.iso' < 1285776357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0% [ ] 39,734,084 840K/s eta 88m 29s < 1285776372 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: More seriously -- I don't believe in that heat idea -- that's why you just shed it (in a conservative automaton). < 1285776375 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spit out gliders or whatever. < 1285776380 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or still life, or oscillators. < 1285776384 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*still lifes, < 1285776389 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1285776412 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shed energy? < 1285776417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cells, that is. < 1285776418 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, f(x,y) = (x+y,x-y) is a reversible implementation of both addition and subtraction without having to use a bit bucket. < 1285776430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The bit that requires a bit bucket is throwing away one of them and only using the other.) < 1285776433 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285776451 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*(x+y, x-y), that is. < 1285776564 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you don't want x-y? < 1285776581 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you throw it into the bit bucket. Or just let it take up that memory and ignore it. < 1285776588 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although making it nonreversible makes the bit bucket a rather cooler idea. < 1285776593 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see you are not familiar with reversible computing. < 1285776599 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is actually a bucket. Of its. < 1285776601 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bits < 1285776605 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the bit bucket is just terminology for pooping. < 1285776611 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In modern CPUs, the bit bucket is heat. < 1285776611 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am, I just liked the idea... < 1285776618 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : But if you don't want x-y? < 1285776620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seemed to imply not. < 1285776622 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, yeah. < 1285776643 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a reversible automaton, the bit bucket would just be throwing out junk like gliders, still lifes or oscillators. < 1285776646 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To get rid of the cells. < 1285776648 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Synthesis is also possible this way, but it's very wasteful. < 1285776659 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1285776668 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I dedicating 4.2 gigs on my disk to HURD? Who knows? < 1285776679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the Hurd. Because it's a lowercase acronym! < 1285776689 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1285776723 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arch Hurd is for wimps. Debian is where it at < 1285776765 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1285776781 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Archhurd, something like an archbishop but for a hird of hurds. < 1285776813 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eHird, an online Hurd instance. < 1285776833 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your hurdistic tendencies must be because of the name. < 1285776874 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285777009 0 :Sgeo!~ubuntu@137.125.185.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285777030 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My professor essentially told me to stop asking hypothetical questions, I might be confusing the other students < 1285777046 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you actually taking? < 1285777052 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13% [====> ] 614,377,898 834K/s eta 78m 26s < 1285777056 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'll ask in here: Can I have a variable that evaluates to two unrelated things in string and number contexts, the way $! does? < 1285777083 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, nobody here answers hypothetical questions. < 1285777086 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say Phantom_Hoover, what if a duck died? < 1285777118 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would quack its last? < 1285777122 0 :hailtothethief!~oh@97-115-142-152.spkn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285777127 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh no! < 1285777140 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT MAKES ME THE SADDEST. < 1285777268 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop asking hypothetical questions! < 1285777487 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does eating work in a reversible, conservative CA? < 1285777505 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't just shoot a glider at a block and get two gliders coming back. < 1285777552 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine a "spaceship" with a fuse inside that is always ticking. It has a little tendril thing that, upon collision with a properly-shaped niblet of food, shoves it down to the end of the fuse. < 1285777561 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the fuse were ever to run out, it would implode. < 1285777578 0 :hailtothethief!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1285777620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF THE FUSE WERE EVER TO RUN OUT, IT WOULD IMPLODE. < 1285777635 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hailtothethief < 1285777637 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF THE FUSE WERE EVER TO RUN OUT, IT WOULD IMPLODE. < 1285777774 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that satisfy reversibility as well? < 1285777805 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a receipt to the universe saying "I ate that block"? < 1285778043 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It "eats" it by using some sort of transport mechanism to push it along a wire, and pop it on the end of the fuse. < 1285778058 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, it directly and literally uses the food. It burns the food to move. < 1285778072 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that can be reversed... < 1285778076 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, there could be some sort of digestive system where it turns the inert food into something more useful. < 1285778081 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The burning, of course, gets released. < 1285778091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course moving a cell and putting at the end of some other cells is reversible... < 1285778096 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1285778113 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The burning is just some reaction that turns the food into a small oscillator or something that escapes the glider, after using some of its energy to help move the big, food-ship. < 1285778154 0 :antivigilante!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1285778183 0 :antivigilante!~antivigil@63-225-203-9.phnx.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285778331 0 :hailtothethief!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1285778496 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So wait, how does reversibility make it cooler? < 1285778514 0 :Kordalien!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1285778532 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Because physics is. < 1285778537 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And reversibility is COOL. < 1285778543 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watch the unrise of civilisation! < 1285778556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hmm, I wonder if there's a nicer predecessor of this... ...yep." < 1285778560 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anybody know if mono execs run under windows? < 1285778628 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :43% [===============> ] 1,957,187,962 834K/s eta 50m 42s < 1285778630 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: yes. < 1285778636 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they install mono :P < 1285778643 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you can probably bundle the framework with it? < 1285778646 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, use google < 1285778757 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: 36 or 54 bits, which is cooler < 1285778799 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :36 can address 64 gigabytes, 54 can address 16 petabytes :P < 1285779009 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_(computer) Meet the new king. <-- I have known about that for weeks < 1285779022 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, and I < 1285779026 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRAY MOTHERFUCKER < 1285779029 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm* not attached to roadrunner in specific < 1285779030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY BUILD FAST THINGS < 1285779036 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to < 1285779038 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1285779051 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, so you completely fail at trolling < 1285779085 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBM POSERS DON'T MOTHAFUCKIN' KNOW HOW A FAST BEASTLY COMPUTAH BE LOOKIN. THEY JUST SHOVE THEIR COMPUTERS TOGETHER N CALL IT WINNING. NO MOTHERFUCKER! CRAY! CRAY INC! FUCKING CRAY INC! THEY BUILD FAST THINGS! THEY BUILD FAST THINGS WITH A FREAKIN "JAGUAR" AND A FREAKIN JAGUAR ON THE FRONT BECAUSE THEY ARE MOTHERFUCKING CRAY < 1285779097 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRAY INC COULD TAKE OVER IBM TOMORROW... BUT WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO < 1285779104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRAY INC MOTHERFUCKER! CRAY! CRAY! < 1285779106 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the end < 1285779123 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna try the Cray Linux Environment < 1285779126 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta be crazy < 1285779146 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebulae_%28computer%29 God that name annoys me < 1285779147 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you already are, < 1285779153 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/,/./ < 1285779159 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: IT'S MULTIPLE NEBULAE < 1285779180 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they refer to it in the singular! < 1285779191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretical peak performance, n. a bullshit figure we extrapolated from a reality in which the speed of light is 20x what it is in our universe. < 1285779212 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[UNICOS/lc: not derived from UNICOS, but based on SuSE Linux. Used on the XT3, XT4 and XT5. UNICOS/lc 1.x comprises a combination of the Catamount microkernel (based on Cougar, used on the ASCI Red system) running on the compute elements, and SuSE Linux running on the service elements. In UNICOS/lc 2.0, Catamount is replaced by a customized Linux kernel, called Compute Node Linux (CNL). [1] From release 2.1 onwards, UNICOS/lc is now called Cray Linux Enviro < 1285779212 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nment (CLE).]] < 1285779223 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRAY: RUNNING LINUX ON TOP OF A MICROKERNEL < 1285779249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking crays, how do they work < 1285779313 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :56% [===================> ] 2,538,296,296 762K/s eta 39m 12s < 1285779315 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the hell...? < 1285779331 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't run Linux on a different kernel! < 1285779331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: FUCKING CRAY MOTHERFUCKER < 1285779333 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : theoretical peak performance, n. a bullshit figure we extrapolated from a reality in which the speed of light is 20x what it is in our universe. <-- [citation needed] < 1285779336 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF YOU ADD A Z TO CRAY YOU GET CRAZY < 1285779345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRAY IS MOTHERFUCKIN CRAZY AND NO APOLOGIES < 1285779350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOING SHIT NOT EVEN POSSIBLE < 1285779355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VORPAL: HUMOUR DETECTION ENGINE NEEDED YO < 1285779361 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRAY INC GETS ALL THE FUCKIN HUMOUR < 1285779379 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEYMOUR CRAY ONCE PUNCHED CHUCK NORRIS. HE GOT CANCER (CHUCK NORRIS) < 1285779387 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it is easier if it is actually funny < 1285779400 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it was a slight against the Nebulae figure < 1285779401 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then Paul Erdös punched them both. < 1285779407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>2 petaflops theoretical peak performance) < 1285779411 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeed it was < 1285779412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Jaguar gets 1 petaflops sustained in practice) < 1285779433 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Accent fail. < 1285779447 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ErdÅ‘s, goddammit! ErdÅ‘s! < 1285779454 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erdøs? < 1285779463 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ErdÅ‘s!!! < 1285779469 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know the compose sequence for that... < 1285779472 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would put it in capitals but I can't type that Å‘. :P < 1285779474 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: COPY AND PASTE MAN < 1285779477 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRAY WOULD COPY AND PASTE < 1285779573 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRAY WOULD USE NC AND PUT THE BYTES IN MANUALLY < 1285779582 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1285779591 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRAY USES FIBER-OPTIC CABLES RECTALLY < 1285779611 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE TICKLES IN THE INDIVIDUAL BITS OF LIGHT < 1285779864 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :66% [=======================> ] 3,003,294,256 840K/s eta 30m 3s < 1285779875 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH A CRAY COMPUTER ON AN IDENTICAL NETWORK THIS WOULD HAVE DOWNLOADED IN THREE MINUTES < 1285779885 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWO IF YOU DISABLE ALL THE CPUS WHICH WORKS BECAUSE OF CRAY GODDAMN < 1285779992 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, watched that minecraft video you mentioned yesterday < 1285779993 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1285780010 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i wish we saw it actually computing though -- or maybe we did, and it was just not really seen :P < 1285780044 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what about the ~ key followed by o ? That works here... but then ~ is a dead key. < 1285780051 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it does nothing with compose < 1285780068 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :õ < 1285780069 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :õ < 1285780073 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Fail. < 1285780073 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not it. < 1285780078 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1285780083 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not even *close* < 1285780085 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah < 1285780087 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anything, it'd be ``o. < 1285780089 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same at this font size < 1285780090 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, dead keys suck shit. < 1285780119 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't shift a dead key sort of? < 1285780120 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, not when you write a language where they are useful < 1285780137 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, like é and è. Happens in Swedish every now and then. < 1285780141 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also known as LANGUAGES OF FAIL. < 1285780144 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: we get that too. < 1285780149 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Café < 1285780156 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, a bit tricky to write on your keyboard though < 1285780164 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idé (en:idea) < 1285780176 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Altgr-; e < 1285780182 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not difficult. Although I forget which. < 1285780193 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which key after altgr; but that's only because I use it rarely.) < 1285780198 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, so altgr-; is a dead key < 1285780209 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or whatever key) < 1285780233 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a dead key if there's a modifier involved. < 1285780271 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, define dead key then. I thought it meant "does nothing until you press another key" < 1285780316 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead key is a single key on the keyboard that, when pressed alone, does nothing until you press another key, inserting a combined accent version or, when combined with e.g. space, inserts the character itself. < 1285780319 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a dead key < 1285780324 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, because by your logic some "dead keys" on Swedish keyboards are not. Because they have different stuff on shifted and non-shifted (but both are dead) < 1285780325 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are very annoying. especially when one's on ' < 1285780329 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is the source of "don`t syndrome") < 1285780343 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, um ' is not a dead key here < 1285780359 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please quote the line where i stated it is < 1285780374 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well you implied that there are keyboard layouts on which it is the case < 1285780384 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise such a syndrome wouldn't exist < 1285780404 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do. < 1285780407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please quote the line where i stated it is on yours < 1285780417 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, is it on UK? < 1285780424 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1285780432 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, also I didn't say you implied it was on Swedish layout < 1285780436 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just noting that it wasn't < 1285780455 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, which keyboard layouts have ' as dead then... < 1285780493 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few. < 1285780831 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1285780946 0 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1285781244 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I found the article on Sexyloop! < 1285781350 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Do I dare ask what that is? < 1285781382 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a variant of Langton's Loop capable of genetic transfer between loops. < 1285781532 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://homepages.feis.herts.ac.uk/~on5ag/sexyloop.html < 1285781814 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285781847 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → stuff < 1285781860 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to tablify that rule when I get back. < 1285782106 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1285782410 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, hm is the article only on IEEE exlore? < 1285782413 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :explore* < 1285782448 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems so. there's also http://homepages.feis.herts.ac.uk/~on5ag/mypapers/OROS_2009_IEEE_ALIFE_b.pdf < 1285782458 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://uhra.herts.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/2299/1735/1/901918.pdf < 1285782461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original paper < 1285782463 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks google < 1285782470 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn "Content is outside your subscription" < 1285782475 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see my link < 1285782476 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't get it through university proxy < 1285782481 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://uhra.herts.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/2299/1735/1/901918.pdf < 1285782522 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Reviewing the state-of-the-art in modern abstract fields of mathematics without providing an instrument of capitalism requires breaking international law. Discuss.) < 1285782531 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1285782532 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't < 1285782539 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just somehow fucking up the url < 1285782540 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1285782565 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads the ieee publication < 1285782578 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I do not quite understand what you mean by that < 1285782583 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I *linked to the IEEE publication*. < 1285782587 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no I won't share, all pdfs are watermarked with who and when downloaded it) < 1285782590 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ah < 1285782602 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The law is copyright law, the instrument of capitalism is the almighty dollar, and the state-of-the-art is recorded in papers. < 1285782634 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only exception is, of course, if you live in a country that (a) has free university and (b) has free universities whose subscription extends to those papers. < 1285782652 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, a and b applies here? < 1285782661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes; you're lucky. < 1285782679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Although your *state* is now feeding the IEEE, which is rather questionable from the IEEE-isn't-very-not-evil point of view. < 1285782685 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Now I understand. < 1285782699 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, of course. I realise that is somewhat tricky < 1285782708 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it means they need to make mathematics papers that are public domain and freely available < 1285782709 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, at least it isn't pay-per-downloaded-paper or such afaik < 1285782717 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, as in, my action won't require them to pay more < 1285782723 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they have yearly subscription < 1285782729 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Even that has issues, effectively imposing a minimum age limit on reading research papers; getting into university at an early age (a) sucks and (b) is extraordinarily difficult. < 1285782738 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, true < 1285782740 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Agreed! < 1285782747 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't need the IEEE to do these things! < 1285782747 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open access is incredibly important. < 1285782750 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a shame it's not universal. < 1285782759 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, and when I'm done at university it will be harder again < 1285782778 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Unless you become a prof. Which has the issue of being... difficult. < 1285782784 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm true < 1285782789 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, anyway, for math isn't ACM more prestigious than IEEE? < 1285782790 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you do get tenure :P < 1285782794 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I can access ACM too < 1285782797 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Dude, ACM isn't mathematics. < 1285782799 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACM is CS. < 1285782801 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1285782806 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the AMS, presumably. < 1285782815 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, what does the M in ACM stand for? < 1285782817 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yes I did < 1285782821 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computing Machinery < 1285782826 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Association of) < 1285782834 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, what exactly does tenure mean btw? < 1285782837 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IEEE is about *electronic engineering* of all things; for some perverted reason computing counts as related to electricity.) < 1285782845 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Tenure commonly refers to life tenure in a job and specifically to a senior academic's contractual right not to have his or her position terminated without just cause. < 1285782851 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr "You're a prof. You can't get fired." < 1285782868 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, hm I don't know if that is true in Sweden < 1285782870 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can publish whatever crap you want as long as you don't, like, rape someone. < 1285782872 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never heard of such stuff here < 1285782882 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a bit of a ridiculous system. < 1285782890 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, and is not in use here afaik < 1285782909 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So your processors actually do things? WEIRD :P < 1285782910 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*professors < 1285782928 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Professor - Requires a PhD degree, a strong publication record, proven teaching skills, and supervision as main supervisor of PhD students which have successfully obtained their PhD. Similar to a tenured, senior, full professor in the USA.]] < 1285782932 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just de facto tenure, then < 1285782987 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1285783019 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, and from observation I believe that the main drive in a professor is avoiding students and somehow get away with just doing research < 1285783037 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds pretty good to me :P < 1285783044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.barnorama.com/wp-content/gallery/5demotivator/31.jpg < 1285783049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: SWEDEN WILL NOT BE FORGIVEN FOR THIS. < 1285783050 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, from what I understand it is rather hard to get away with < 1285783063 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jätte mumsig MY ASS. < 1285783066 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, huh, I never seen that < 1285783081 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that was obscene < 1285783086 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the combination I meant) < 1285783092 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refuse to translate it. < 1285783123 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gahaha (Translated myself) < 1285783127 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, notice the blue label, translates to "American taste" < 1285783142 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well it isn't obscene on it's own. Just when combined with "my ass" as you did. < 1285783149 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gathered < 1285783154 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :American taste my ass. < 1285783159 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though not exactly gramatically correct) < 1285783166 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, XD < 1285783235 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They may actually have managed to make bacon awful. A previously unheard of feat. < 1285783256 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I don't think it was a Swedish invention < 1285783262 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just an example of the idea < 1285783268 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S YOUR FAULT ALL YOUR FAULT < 1285783276 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, also how can you know what it tastes like without trying it? < 1285783311 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I mean, americans invented squeezeable cheese. That is even worse. < 1285783311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, it's a *squeeze bottle* with cheapl-= < 1285783313 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1285783316 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, it's a *squeeze bottle* with cheap-looking packaging, < 1285783323 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :advertising *an actual replacement for bacon* coming out of the little hole. < 1285783327 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even "bacon flavouring". < 1285783332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Squeeze out bacon! < 1285783336 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no question that it is terrible. < 1285783395 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, this is worse. By far: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy_Cheese < 1285783420 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm pretty sure squeezed bacon is going to taste worse than squeezed cheese. < 1285783440 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the texture of squeezed cheese will be *SOMETHING* like cheese. < 1285783441 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, no way < 1285783446 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bacon is crispy. < 1285783448 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, depends on what cheese < 1285783456 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, cheddar? No way < 1285783461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although sometimes called "aerosol cheese", its container is not actually an aerosol spray can, because the cheese does not combine with the propellant (nitrogen) to turn into a fine mist upon being sprayed." ;; THIS WOULD BE HILARIOUS < 1285783469 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some soft cheeses will be a bit similar < 1285783489 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Cheddar is quite a soft solid. It's not rock-hard, crispy, or anything. < 1285783495 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bacon is always at least slightly CRISPY. < 1285783562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-09-29 17:34:22 (821 KB/s) - `debian-L1-hurd-i386-DVD1.iso' saved [4525166592/4525166592] < 1285783571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Length: 4525166592 (4.2G) [application/x-iso9660-image] < 1285783585 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: Cheddar is quite a soft solid. It's not rock-hard, crispy, or anything. <-- that varies between types of cheeses < 1285783590 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some very hard ones < 1285783600 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :harder than hard cheddar even (which is already quite a hard one) < 1285783614 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, bbl, food (sadly without squeezed bacon) < 1285783646 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: BUT WAIT < 1285783652 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'M ABOUT TO INSTALL DEBIAN GNU/HURD IN A VM < 1285783803 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/e8UPJ.png < 1285783863 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Rescue disk CANNOT be used for system recovery." < 1285783881 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, it actually uses Linux to unpack baseGNU.tgz onto the partition. < 1285783883 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genius. < 1285783920 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, it starts with an image of Tux with a beercan. < 1285784024 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1285784031 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hurd usable? < 1285784041 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can run GNOME < 1285784046 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what < 1285784057 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your definition of usable always seems to be linux < 1285784058 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "no" < 1285784066 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor used it for a while < 1285784090 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSX is usable < 1285784163 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Linux or OS X or maybe a BSD", then. < 1285784455 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing programs in TeX can easily confuse the syntax highlighter < 1285784501 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth codes can do that, too. < 1285784539 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plan 9 is cool < 1285784544 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not exactly usable < 1285784640 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please review this program: http://sprunge.us/jLSD < 1285784664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes. < 1285784694 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes to what question? < 1285784703 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes to the program. < 1285784735 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think it is workable? < 1285784755 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have tried a few Underload programs and it does works. < 1285784797 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although sometimes there is error due to capacity of TeX < 1285784841 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, each "S" command sends output to a separate line in the output file, instead of all on one line, how Underload is meant to. < 1285784929 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than that it works perfectly OK as far as I can tell. < 1285784982 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should work. < 1285784990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd recommend rendering the result rather than using an output file, for extra coolness. < 1285785000 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now can you learn? < 1285785024 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes, however, some programs run infinite loops, so that is why it won't work to render the result. < 1285785055 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1285785223 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1285785311 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have even heard of a BASIC interpreter written in TeX < 1285785376 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that about Pushkin? < 1285785407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pushkin? < 1285785472 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It was something in Godel, Escher, Bach. Someone said that line, after mishearing someone reading the book that the story they are in said something < 1285785494 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1285785507 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: I'M ABOUT TO INSTALL DEBIAN GNU/HURD IN A VM <-- why not natively? < 1285785558 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: lawl < 1285785561 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would also like some review of this game: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/GAMES/cgacoll.zip < 1285785562 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: call the interpreter jLSD < 1285785570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do realise Hurd doesn't even support USB? :P < 1285785570 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, :P < 1285785581 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, hah < 1285785585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my DVD is corrupt or something. I'm gonna try the mini install CD. < 1285785586 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how do i run this game under linux? < 1285785588 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All those 4 gigs for nuthin'. < 1285785596 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you can't, linux isn't usable < 1285785608 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, torrent it? That tends to have better error checking. Though I doubt anyone would see a hurd dvd < 1285785614 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*seed < 1285785623 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's actually based on Debian woody, despite coming out late last year. < 1285785630 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woody is from *2002*. < 1285785642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now consider how obsolete Debian stable releases become in their lifetime. < 1285785643 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Probably best using a DOS emulator. Although if you want, you can try to recompile it using FreeBASIC (which would require modifying the programs). < 1285785649 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The release after, sarge, came in 2005. < 1285785659 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, indeed < 1285785660 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By that time, woody would have been hopelessly, comically outdated, as old-release-schedule Debian releases did. < 1285785665 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now consider it in *late 2009*. < 1285785680 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, still beats mastodon < 1285785681 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1285785696 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Except mastodon is designed to be retro and is actually maintained -- or, well, was when anyone used it. < 1285785706 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well yes < 1285785724 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are Debian going to use names from Toy Story 3 in the future? < 1285785763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1285785769 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not many new "characters" in 3 had names... < 1285785782 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, upgrading X while running X. How insane is that? < 1285785791 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far I noticed no issues with that < 1285785797 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I haven't restarted X yet < 1285785820 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i dont know how to play some of these < 1285785840 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: What questions do you have specific? < 1285785846 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try to answer you < 1285785871 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stroker? < 1285785880 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toy Story 3 is awesome btw. < 1285785896 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : nooga: Probably best using a DOS emulator. Although if you want, you can try to recompile it using FreeBASIC (which would require modifying the programs). <-- which programs? < 1285785935 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They would require modifying the .BAS programs to make them work properly under FreeBASIC. Although a DOS emulator (or another computer with DOS) will work, too. < 1285785972 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1285785974 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I asked "which programs" < 1285785977 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i found the doc < 1285785982 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: I can explain STROKER: < 1285785993 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, as in, what do the .BAS programs do < 1285785994 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The doc doesn't explain everything yet, unfortunately. It is not finish) < 1285786026 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STROKER game you push space bar, arrow keys (you can step on each space only once), and then if you make that no rows contain both green and red blocks, then you win. < 1285786034 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The .BAS programs do game program. < 1285786051 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of games? < 1285786060 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Game programs. < 1285786065 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except CGACOLL.BAS, which just calculates the size of the files) < 1285786083 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, like... RPG? Card games? Racing games? text adventure? < 1285786085 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1285786085 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There are many kinds of games. < 1285786091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Games! < 1285786099 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, -_- < 1285786132 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, why not implement USB support in Hurd < 1285786134 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just 1.1 < 1285786153 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're too busy wanking over their amazing design and... doing... something that i'm not sure exactly what it is < 1285786161 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, doesn't your bios provide PS/2 compatibility?! < 1285786164 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just bring your ISA video card! < 1285786171 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, aha, it is like tenured profs < 1285786175 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't do anything < 1285786178 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COREBOOT(not-TM) Optimised! < 1285786179 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The program ELEMENTA is a implementation of a card game. < 1285786181 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seem to act busy < 1285786187 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not-TM" linking to a rant on why trademarks are evil, naturally! < 1285786192 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it actually said that? < 1285786194 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1285786196 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no < 1285786197 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it should! < 1285786203 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, mhm < 1285786207 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hurd guys tend to be the crazies more than the zealots :P < 1285786209 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, any RPGs or such? < 1285786257 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No... < 1285786273 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1285786299 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the STARWARS game counts, sort of... < 1285786311 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1285786322 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I don't have DOS handy btw < 1285786332 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't plan to code any basic < 1285786351 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The STARWARS program is a two player game, it is the only two players game in the package < 1285786362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: they work with DOSBox, usually < 1285786365 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38's basic games < 1285786374 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurd uses its own extended version of ext2. :) < 1285786382 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sovminga is quite amusing < 1285786391 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, two player, not really possible to try it atm then < 1285786394 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :extended version of extended < 1285786396 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I got the rules from a paper that described it as a sort of RPG, but it isn't really a true RPG) < 1285786401 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well, installing dosbox... too much work < 1285786404 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm laz < 1285786406 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazy* < 1285786411 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo aptitude install dosbox < 1285786418 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dosbox < 1285786422 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, pacman atm < 1285786423 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but meh < 1285786427 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z:\> mount c ~/ < 1285786431 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z:\> cd zzo < 1285786433 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: In case you want to know, SOVMINGA is actually short for "Soviet Mind Game" < 1285786434 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1285786437 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z:\> C: < 1285786439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C:\> cd zzo < 1285786440 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C:\> game < 1285786446 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: looks like normal tetris < 1285786461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny because Tetris comes from Soviet Russia. < 1285786474 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: It is, although there are some options you can change which make it a bit different from normal Tetris. < 1285786479 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, and yeah, too much work. < 1285786492 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, because six lines is work. < 1285786497 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's six lines including the actual starting of the game. < 1285786506 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they can be typed without even touching the mouse. < 1285786520 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1285786652 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program GIVEAWAY is actually a solitaire chess variant < 1285786675 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But COLORSPI is one which I would like you to try < 1285786692 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why all caps? < 1285786703 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1285786710 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Because it is DOS filenames < 1285786713 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just looked at the webpage of mastodon < 1285786722 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no links, no download, nothing < 1285786727 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, they are case insensitive afaik. No need to write them upper case < 1285786734 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lower case or mixed case would work just as well < 1285786738 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: DIR lists them in uppercase. < 1285786754 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I know but I prefer to type them in uppercase < 1285786756 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I'm aware of that, I don't think that is a justification < 1285786760 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, ah okay < 1285786772 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: For the same reason, Lisp and Scheme functions are rendered in upper-case. < 1285786776 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, CALL-WITH-CURRENT-CONTINUATION. < 1285786806 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of these game programs are public domain, do as you like with it. < 1285786813 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, not in most docs I have seen iirc. But yes quite commonly in error messages and such < 1285786847 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: When it is available, monospaced type is preferred. < 1285786854 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In all other situations, upper-case should be and is used. < 1285786864 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, R3RS seem to use lower case < 1285786870 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1285786871 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1285786872 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 3 < 1285786876 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf at that typo < 1285786882 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it uses monospaced type. < 1285786883 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Antarctica < 1285786886 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1285786923 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why on earth is that not just integrated into the main article on Antarctica? < 1285786948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Religion_in_Antarctica < 1285786952 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sub-categories! < 1285786954 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two levels deep! < 1285786962 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Church_buildings_in_Antarctica < 1285787001 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Alcoholics Anonymous were there. < 1285787033 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I can only presume they somehow generated these for all continents or such < 1285787042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1285787044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Church_buildings_in_Antarctica < 1285787044 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1285787045 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actual articles. < 1285787053 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Five of them. < 1285787059 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well and then someone used that when it existed < 1285787083 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1285787085 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See page history. < 1285787111 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_Las_Estrellas Civilian settlement in Antarctica. < 1285787162 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, strange they had so many fires down there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapel_of_the_Snows both the original and the temp replacement burned < 1285787172 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're FIRES OF COLD. < 1285787209 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1285787293 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Villa_Las_Estrellas.jpg < 1285787297 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonderful. < 1285787321 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU Emacs mostly does work, however there are a few issues. < 1285787321 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dired on a directory hangs. (Use C-g C-g to break the unresponsive operation.) < 1285787321 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/emacs.html < 1285787328 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yeah, but that must be in the *summer* I think < 1285787334 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it would be a lot worse in the winter < 1285787336 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Of course. Still... < 1285787337 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1285787340 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :local summer < 1285787347 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there are 15 children there! (at least in summer). < 1285787348 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must suck. < 1285787350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*summer.) < 1285787364 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also internet on three computers at the school. :P < 1285787368 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, indeed. Cool to visit, sure. But not a place to live permanently < 1285787380 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when its cold, people tend to light fires... And those can ocassionally spread to unintentional places... :-) < 1285787388 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yeah that seems strange. Surely the govt offices would have internet? < 1285787413 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, you would assume they built for coldness down there < 1285787423 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, with radiators and such < 1285787442 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad use of radiators could also cause fires... < 1285787442 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Clearly not! < 1285787460 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, well yes < 1285787475 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, bad use of a lot of things can cause fires < 1285787529 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe except LN2, LHe or dry ice... :-) < 1285787567 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, LN2? LHe? < 1285787591 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Liquid nitrogen, Liquid helium. < 1285787595 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1285787610 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1285787627 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, shouldn't that be N3? < 1285787645 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Triple bond between two nitrogen atoms. < 1285787651 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1285787654 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought backwards < 1285787669 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, and hrrm does any of those three substances conduct electricity? < 1285787682 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1285787695 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah hm, then indeed I can't think of a way to start a fire using those < 1285787701 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1285787729 0 :hailtothethief!~oh@97-115-139-28.spkn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285787735 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1285787751 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, indirectly: Lets say you have some sort of moving device, which if it stops operating could result in a fire hazard, Like, say, a cooling fan motor. < 1285787760 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, now LHe on it < 1285787766 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, watch the grease freeze < 1285787772 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus the thing it cooled overhead < 1285787789 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, there, fire from LHe. Though rather contrived I agree < 1285787799 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, LOx is different stuff. Well, its cold. But the oxidant density wins over that by quite a margin... < 1285787833 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, LOx? < 1285787841 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Liquid oxygen... < 1285787841 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is x < 1285787844 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1285787850 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, shouldn't that be LO? < 1285787853 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question why it isn't L02... < 1285787856 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or LO2 < 1285787857 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather < 1285787864 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*LO2 < 1285787876 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, anyway, what do you think of my suggestion for starting fire with LHe? < 1285787934 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, if you freeze the motor using that (if its electric), blocking the motion causes it to emit lots of heat, which would warm it back up... < 1285788003 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know in QBASIC? Using the SOUND command allows you to time shorter intervals than you can with the TIMER command. It is faster to check the states of the shift keys and control/alt and numlock/capslock/scrolllock than it is to check the states of the other keys. < 1285788010 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, hrrm. Either make it non-electric or provide a continuous flow of LHe so that it cools quicker than it heats up < 1285788015 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's trick that might work: "Fix" the fuses with nails. Then connect leads to block of superconductor and pour LHe on it... < 1285788030 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, hah < 1285788045 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That current is going to go up quite a bit... < 1285788104 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to check if any new installments of "things I don't work with" series have popped up... < 1285788178 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Things I won't work with" < 1285788753 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari_antrcomp, is there anything that can burn in an atmosphere of helium? < 1285788905 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it. < 1285788912 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helium can combine with some elements < 1285788926 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think it would be a burning scenario < 1285788956 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium#Compounds < 1285788958 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAIK, He has no stable compounds. < 1285788982 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Calculations show that two new compounds containing a helium-oxygen bond could be stable." < 1285789006 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still a hypothetical, apparently < 1285789082 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOFD < 1285789236 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some music files on my computer that say this archive was downloaded from and the URL (HTTP), and not to be redistributed without permission. Well, I have not downloaded it as an archive, I have not downloaded it at that domain name, and I have not downloaded it over HTTP either. < 1285789255 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was downloaded over the gopher protocol (I forget the domain name) < 1285789350 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AFAIK, He has no stable compounds. <-- stable under what conditions? < 1285789375 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helium is a noble gas? < 1285789421 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but some noble gases _do_ have stable compounds, if that section is to be believed < 1285789428 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, yes and? Argon and iirc Xenon has some compounds < 1285789435 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(helium and neon have no known ones) < 1285789464 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't know, I just mentioned that it is a noble gas, in case that matters at all < 1285789510 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes it is rather inert, but not completely it seems < 1285789595 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1285789620 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a chemist < 1285789633 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a chemist either, that is why I don't know, and why I ask < 1285789660 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I can't help you, I have no clue why, I just know it is the case < 1285789709 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can help everyone! < 1285790279 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1285790709 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, things like FOOF. Explodes on contact with water ice at about -180 degC... < 1285790751 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it is rather inert because noble gases have zero valence electrons, at not quite inert because valence electrons are only a first approximation to how an atom can react... < 1285790759 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and not quite < 1285790863 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, explodes Pentium processors < 1285790888 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1285790891 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dire straits < 1285790901 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't a chemist either but he _did_ ace his chemistry exam back in '89. standard vague recall disclaimers apply. < 1285790911 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :89!? < 1285790924 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was 1 y old then < 1285790925 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::F < 1285790930 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan isn't 17?! < 1285790932 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves his cane at nooga  < 1285790940 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was 3, but I also aced my chemistry exam. < 1285790943 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: i predict he could be 30+ < 1285790952 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: the wrong end of 30+ :P < 1285790959 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still 30+ < 1285790961 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1285791055 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a machine that if you feed paper in, it will fold them, and after receiving a certain number of pages (configurable), it will place them in a window envelope. < 1285791092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably can buy one from xerox or something :D < 1285791179 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ah yes, things like FOOF. Explodes on contact with water ice at about -180 degC... <-- cool, now tip the mythbusters about this < 1285791248 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls fluorine and oxygen are the two most electronegative elements, so no surprise really < 1285791299 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were doing it by email and webpages and Windows Media, and PDF files even, so I offered to do it entirely using TeX instead, so that is what I am doing. < 1285791325 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(O, and I am also using METAFONT to create the name cards) < 1285791393 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should be the position of the address on the page so that it will appear in the window envelope? < 1285791487 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the output tray of the printer is arranged so that it drops the pages directly into the other machine, then you would have to do nothing other than put stamps and put it in the mailbox! < 1285791712 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woenoenoanoanoen < 1285791810 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285791940 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a simple way of interchanging columns in a file? < 1285791998 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably with Awk. < 1285792201 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You look upon a man unacquainted with Awk. < 1285792240 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1285792249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well basically you have to look awkward. < 1285792283 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: < 1285792283 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285792294 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@dinky:~$ (echo 1 2 3; echo 4 5 6) | awk '{ print $2, $1, $3 }' < 1285792294 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 1 3 < 1285792294 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 4 6 < 1285792337 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now it is a matter of working out the Sexyloop rule table symmetries... < 1285792345 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, the source is Java. < 1285792358 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need symmetries if you do a dumb translation? < 1285792358 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you biuld an interpreter that gets program written as quite entangled and forked, looped curve ? < 1285792367 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*build < 1285792376 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yes. < 1285792398 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I don't know exactly how their format works. < 1285792497 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: properly. < 1285792517 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;f < 1285792537 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll assume it uses the same symmetries as Evoloop. < 1285792886 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;f < 1285792924 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a program for creating road maps with TeX? < 1285792928 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, the columns aren't space-separated. < 1285793000 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, I want abcdef -> e,a,b,c,d,f < 1285793024 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with a couple of substitutions, but those I can do myself. < 1285793171 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you can do that too < 1285793192 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: always six fields? < 1285793222 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fis@iris:~$ (echo 123456; echo abcdef) | awk -F '' '{print $5","$1","$2","$3","$4","$6;}' < 1285793224 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1285793225 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5,1,2,3,4,6 < 1285793228 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e,a,b,c,d,f < 1285793264 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming you actually wanted those commas in. < 1285793267 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@dinky:~$ echo abcdef | sed -E 's/(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)/\5\1\2\3\4\6/' < 1285793269 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, that works too. < 1285793279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, with commas in. < 1285793283 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, substituting A for 10 and B for 11 would be nice as well... < 1285793290 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'M ON IT < 1285793306 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sed expression looks like a six-breasted thing, though. < 1285793331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: < 1285793332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@dinky:~$ echo AbcdeB | sed -E 's/(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)/\5,\1,\2,\3,\4,\6/; s/A/10/g; s/B/11/g' < 1285793332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e,10,b,c,d,11 < 1285793597 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How much does Minecraft cost? < 1285793616 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: You can buy it for 9.95 EUR during this alpha-test, and they'll say it goes up to 20 EUR later. < 1285793621 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As much as it costs to torrent? < 1285793629 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you think it's worth paying for. < 1285793636 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's server-based. < 1285793638 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurrr. < 1285793641 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, partly.) < 1285793647 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn them! < 1285793655 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn them for creating a multiplayer game!!1213134853 < 1285793663 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INDEED! < 1285793675 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, perl -ne 'chomp; $_ = join(",", split //); s/([AB])/"1".chr(ord($1)-17)/eg; print; print "\n";' is obviously far preferable and cleaner than the simple sed expression. < 1285793676 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: My brain must be broken; when I saw Google spit out £8.58 my first thought was "wow, that's a lot". < 1285793676 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who wants to play with OTHER PEOPLE? < 1285793767 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd today: slightly amusing? < 1285793805 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1285793812 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether the multiplayer servers (at the moment) actually check for account validity, just the servers the launcher uses to download the actual game bits from. But the official multiplayer servers probably will at some point. < 1285793832 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Hawking may have a slight problem with cinemas. < 1285793846 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something like a dozen third-party servers, but I'm not sure if those support the current Alpha client or just the old "Classic" one. < 1285793861 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've just been playing with myself.) < 1285793883 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two mini-comics in http://xkcd.com/798/ are amusing. < 1285793894 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The use of phi for both properties is confusing and annoying. < 1285793901 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote (I've just been playing with myself.) < 1285793904 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing is too low-brow for HackEgo. < 1285793913 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Meh! < 1285793918 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :230| (I've just been playing with myself.) < 1285793957 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the end I did buy it, anyway. < 1285793973 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT WHERE IS YOUR MONEY NOW < 1285794044 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you better or worse than Mezzacotta? < 1285794045 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the main practical upshot of this manual. the following parts, written in c, or where commands intended to be less than a label, to select every second bit of the format created by the compiler or optimizer thinks that such a stack existed, because it's inside the main control-flow command in other programming languages. < 1285794055 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1285794055 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic* irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1285794064 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style pa < 1285794065 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: pa (around 1200 transcribed Penny Arcade comics) < 1285794082 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, I hope this is as cool as I think it is. < 1285794082 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no mess and fresh juice anytime! < 1285794105 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, but I like mess! And I like fresh juice... < 1285794105 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i didn't know you could even do that. < 1285794132 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: WHAT ABOUT THE MESS OF FRESH JUICES < 1285794133 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: gentlemen. i never thought i'd see the day. hail ikthor! you have a gamer card with us? < 1285794140 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of it is just verbatim < 1285794175 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a bit verbatimy, yes. I think I should've used a lower maximum n-gram order, it was a pretty small data set. < 1285794186 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can't you, you know, jazz it up a bit? < 1285794187 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my parents are coming over tonight. i don't know if i can be friends with a zombie lover. you will take in scenic vistas, within view of majestic caribou... hey! maybe we could trade off, you could race, then me... < 1285794228 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^join ##gameoflife < 1285794239 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah! < 1285794271 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is sort of multi-channel-capable; but is that really a place that'd appreciate such a noisy bot? < 1285794295 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! < 1285794305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :##gameoflife so sold out when it changed name >__> < 1285794307 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe you! < 1285794330 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T BELIEVE HIM < 1285794333 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: i _vaguely_ recall it was my fault. despite me never being there :D < 1285794343 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHANTOM_HOOVER IS THE CRIMINAL < 1285794377 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan suggested it! < 1285794391 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Any objections to me moving it back? 'cuz the old name is SO more awesome :P < 1285794396 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did i. < 1285794440 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given the only person in it is Ilari, it makes no difference. < 1285794692 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's game of life in finnish, anyway. < 1285794714 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life-peli < 1285794734 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a bit boring. ("peli" is just generically "game".) < 1285794947 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cheater100 < 1285795135 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thanks, Elliot." --Robert Nemiroff, editor of Astronomy Picture of the Day, in response to an email where the only statement of my name was in the From field, spelled correctly. < 1285795137 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EEK, HE LEVELED UP < 1285795140 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY < 1285795355 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf http://i.imgur.com/Wqqxv.jpg < 1285795394 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1285795723 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a Wikipedia article called "Libertarianism (metaphysics)". < 1285795809 0 :Sgeo!~ubuntu@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285795995 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The free market controls MY gravity. < 1285796050 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hi, I'm 1000g. I'm currently taking over 1g. < 1285796057 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have fun. < 1285796076 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what happens if you mix hydrazine with fluorine? Or if that doesn't do anything interesting, why not mix it with caesium instead < 1285796082 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl29-2-0-cust326.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285796138 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1285796148 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1285796249 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea of a context making computer game, with topics you have to use, the topics are the titles of two Wikipedia pages selected at random. < 1285796262 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Using the [[Special:Random]] function) < 1285796463 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would that work < 1285796501 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a computer cannot actually _understand_ the topics... < 1285796518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I HOPE YOU'RE READING THIS < 1285796530 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No... the judge posts the topics and tells the people to make a game with this, and then the judge tells how closely it matches the topic < 1285796544 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*contest, surely, not context. < 1285796552 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh... what alise said < 1285796567 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I do mean "contest" < 1285796660 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lerner and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpang_Pulai_Interchange < 1285796669 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I HOPE YOU'RE READING MY BEAUTIFUL HATE POETRY < 1285796675 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see some problems there :D < 1285796699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: David Lerner is driving on the Simpang Pulai Interchange. But the Malaysian government don't want him there! < 1285796707 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drive and shoot the enemy cars while avoiding the donkeys. < 1285796713 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: wait David Lerner looks like a hate poet... < 1285796761 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure Phantom_Hoover's client is lagged to hell, but I was referring to this in ##gameoflife: http://pastie.org/1189862.txt?key=vgenivuit5vq7guwwqoxa < 1285796768 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He is busy pasting Paradise Lost into #b3s23.) < 1285796788 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1285796789 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the greatest work of poetry. < 1285796800 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the even better work of HATE POETRY. < 1285796855 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1285796856 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1285796874 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: i think the game should involve orangutans too < 1285796905 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm studying something called "Informatyka" which would directly translate to "Informatics" < 1285796919 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: xD < 1285796920 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1285796921 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the literary world < 1285796923 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks dead dog dick" -- David Lerner, "Mein Kampf" < 1285796925 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want people to hear my poetry and < 1285796927 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get headaches < 1285796929 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want people to hear my poetry and < 1285796931 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl29-2-0-cust326.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285796931 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vomit" < 1285796933 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: wat < 1285796935 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i write "Computer Science" in my english CV? < 1285796941 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1285796950 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of "Informatics"? < 1285796989 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the subject computer science? < 1285797004 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Informatics (academic field), a broad academic field encompassing information science, information technology, algorithms, and social science < 1285797004 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer science, the study of complex systems, information and computation using applied mathematics, electrical engineering and software engineering techniques. < 1285797004 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Information science, the study of the processing, management, and retrieval of information < 1285797008 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so informatics is a sort of supersubject... < 1285797017 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: what you've primarily been studying is CS, right? < 1285797024 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, i'd write Computer Science < 1285797030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informatics_(academic_field) ;; wut < 1285797048 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CS is called Informatyka in Polish < 1285797081 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: put CS on < 1285797083 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Matematyka -> Mathematics < 1285797099 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing a literal word-by-word translation is silly, so if informatyka means CS, then write Computer Science. < 1285797116 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is Informatics then? < 1285797151 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some crazy thing < 1285797160 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some supersubject of CS that probably involves very little CS < 1285797166 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about... systems and information < 1285797167 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not CS :P < 1285797180 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1285797188 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid language < 1285797195 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: just say computer science. < 1285797269 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1285797309 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: ? < 1285797353 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer science sounds cheesy < 1285797355 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1285797369 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a science of repairing computers < 1285797374 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: dude, it's the name of the subject. < 1285797376 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what we say. < 1285797384 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody knows what the hell informatics means :P < 1285797401 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: "computing science" has gained a little bit of traction but nothing even nearly serious enough for any CV-reader not to think of it as a stupid error < 1285797415 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_science :P < 1285797417 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1285797516 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, if you can get at this somehow, I recommend this: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja00893a004 it's just absurd. < 1285797527 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(university proxy, but result is water marked...) < 1285797531 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, you looked up the blog post like me :P < 1285797534 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and found the reference to that < 1285797539 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, indeed < 1285797547 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purchase This Content < 1285797547 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Choose from the following options: < 1285797547 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$30.00 for 48 hours of access < 1285797549 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a great price! < 1285797549 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, and I managed to use university proxy to extract that paper < 1285797562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :£18.98 for *two days* of access to a research paper < 1285797571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so cheap it gives me heartburn. < 1285797580 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ouch, I wonder what they pay for the subscription.... < 1285797584 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it is campus wide < 1285797586 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: £lots/year < 1285797591 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in technical units. < 1285797597 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yeah... < 1285797609 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=The+Chemical+Properties+of+Dioxygen+Difluoride#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=The+Chemical+Properties+of+Dioxygen+Difluoride+filetype%3Apdf&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=7eab77b8d2d38738 < 1285797614 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[PDF] Thermodynamic Properties of Dioxygen Difluoride (OZF2) and ..." < 1285797617 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the same, Google. < 1285797618 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the same. < 1285797647 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, can't find it. < 1285797675 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: How many hail Marys would I have to do to get your PDF copy? What if I used Tipp-Ex on my screen to remove your watermark? WHAT THEN < 1285797691 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, hm... < 1285797705 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it is scanned and extremely blurry < 1285797708 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to read in fact < 1285797767 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, and rather boringly written < 1285797788 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, in fact, you have to be a chemist to understand that it means what the blog post described < 1285797835 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, and sharing it with you is not worth the trouble if it comes to attention. It just isn't < 1285797937 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re "how much it costs", it might be something comparable to ACM Digital Library, which for the "academic institution" class has list prices for "tier 1/2/3/4/5" of 2,000/13421/14634/15322/16021 USD/year. (I can't quite find out what the different tiers actually mean, though.) < 1285797952 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maaaan < 1285797953 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, what blog post? < 1285797954 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am SO weird looking. < 1285798036 0 :Harpyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Harpyon < 1285798121 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://pastie.org/1189862.txt?key=vgenivuit5vq7guwwqoxa < 1285798148 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read it. < 1285798153 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2010/02/23/things_i_wont_work_with_dioxygen_difluoride.php < 1285798155 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the blog post < 1285798158 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was singularly underwhelmend. < 1285798162 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: READ IT BUT DID NOT VERBALLY APPRECIATE MY POETIC TALENT < 1285798190 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; twatbasket is already on urban dictionary < 1285798195 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was my primary innovation! < 1285798600 0 :antivigilante!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1285799055 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: 4Oâ‚‚Fâ‚‚ + Hâ‚‚S +2HF + 4Oâ‚‚ + SF₆ + 432.9 kcal < 1285799070 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if units(1) is correct that is fucking 1.8124657 MJ < 1285799131 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "contradistinction" is a nice word < 1285799157 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall something about the cal unit being ambiguous < 1285799215 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the definitions being 1000 times the other < 1285799272 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1285799283 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it is however likely in this case to be correct < 1285799283 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I don't think it's unambiguous if you have the k in there. < 1285799289 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 4.2 and 4200 joules respectively, says wikipedia < 1285799360 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In contact with a Pt sheet covered with PtF4, dioxygen difluoride exploded at 160°K." < 1285799361 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm probably not, 4.2 gives about what Vorpal said < 1285799382 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I win a lot of points at this Bumping Pachinko game < 1285799382 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Calories are a dietary unit being 1 kcal. < 1285799387 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You won't see them in science. < 1285799412 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In scientific contexts, the name "calorie" refers to the gram calorie, and this unit has the symbol cal. Metric prefixes are used with this name and symbol, so that the kilogram calorie is known as the "kilocalorie" and has the symbol kcal." -- says the 'pedia too. < 1285799446 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you'll ever really see the k prefix with the larger sort of Cal. < 1285799518 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought calories were superseded by Joules/ < 1285799566 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2009/06/11/things_i_wont_work_with_thioacetone.php < 1285799577 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes < 1285799580 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the paper is old < 1285799587 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1962 < 1285799601 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls a similar article about methyl mercury < 1285799613 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, sounds about as absurd < 1285799684 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dimethyl mercury < 1285799776 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thioacetone is CH3CSCH3, presumably/ < 1285799835 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1285799840 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm he only mentions it in passing on that site < 1285799887 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When added to Dry Ice, dioxygen difluoride did not react and was only absorbed by the solid. Addition of acetone to this mixture resulted in sparking accompanied by an explosion." < 1285799889 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1285799895 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dimethyl mercury I will not get within yards of, for very well-founded reasons." < 1285799905 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1285799935 0 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1285799971 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dimethyl mercury is just CH3HgCH3. Chemistry is terrifying... < 1285799996 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thioacetone sounds like something related to thiotimoline. < 1285800009 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both of those compounds are only a few atoms away from propane. < 1285800024 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, "thio-" is sulphur-related IIRC. < 1285800064 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As with thiols, which are alcohols with sulphur rather than oxygen stuck on. < 1285800250 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make vodka using them? < 1285800320 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1285800410 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thioethanol looks like it's toxic. < 1285800485 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ethanol is also toxic < 1285800577 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait those 432.9 kcal are for a _single_ set of molecules? < 1285800744 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1285800750 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: except < 1285800752 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc there was some detail < 1285800761 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1812465.7 / 3600000 < 1285800761 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.5034626944444445 < 1285800767 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1148591 < 1285800768 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see fisrt reply < 1285800772 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 1/2 kWh ... < 1285800780 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually per mol < 1285800784 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first < 1285800794 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not that bad :D < 1285800806 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1285800852 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess per molecule that would be more than a nuclear bomb... < 1285801002 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They offer it in 100g, 500g, and 1 kilo amounts, which is interesting, because I don't think a kilo of dioxygen difluoride has ever existed." :D < 1285801334 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, not at once at least < 1285801340 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I do think it might have existed in total < 1285801356 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mol and rad: my most hated units. < 1285801366 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering how many fucked up experiments that paper he referred to did < 1285801402 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, rad? That's nothing. sr is way worse < 1285801404 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and degrees < 1285801406 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is also bad < 1285801411 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least radians make sense < 1285801415 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike degrees < 1285801418 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I'm talking about the units. < 1285801422 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the things. < 1285801433 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, okay but sr is a crazy unit < 1285801434 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agree? < 1285801437 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sr? < 1285801446 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steradian < 1285801454 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mol and rad are just unitlessness masquerading otherwise. < 1285801472 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steradians don't look too crazy. < 1285801473 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dimethyl mercury is quite frightening stuff. Highly toxic. Absorbs through skin. Penetrates latex gloves... < 1285801528 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, dimensionless too < 1285801537 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, oh, I thought you meant the concept. < 1285801543 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ah < 1285801550 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well that too :P < 1285801582 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, those 433kcal were for one specific reaction. < 1285801586 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*oerjan < 1285801606 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1285801666 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff that explodes on contact with water ice in cryogenic temperatures is sure nice stuff... < 1285801698 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, indeed < 1285801716 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, now I want someone to try FOOF and cesium < 1285801730 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to watch the resulting youtube video < 1285801758 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOOF and surfur compounds would probably be good enough... < 1285801794 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, true < 1285801807 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, but I wonder if FOOF and cesium would be worse or not < 1285801818 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 433kcal figure was for sulphur compounds, FWIW. < 1285801832 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes < 1285801852 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... 432.9 < 1285801857 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HS, specifically. < 1285801872 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, HF as product... Fun. < 1285801885 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sulphur is also electronegative, isn't it, it's just below oxygen in the table < 1285801908 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : mol and rad: my most hated units. ;; radians are sweet < 1285801915 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A calorie is 4.2 joules. < 1285801915 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so clearly it's not just about distance on that scale < 1285801916 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, unitless < 1285801938 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effing Americans and your stubborn refusal to accept sane measurements for everything. < 1285801948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what, calories or joules? < 1285801956 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calories, obviously. < 1285801957 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :joules are clearly superior by virtue of SI < 1285801976 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do you also propose that americans measure people in feet and inches, roads in miles, but everything else in metric? < 1285801983 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :our system is *fucked up* < 1285802002 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would want to see page that documented FFU electrical units (thankfully, they were probably just too crazy and died). < 1285802014 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that kcal figure was for *a scientific measurement*. < 1285802019 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no excuse for that. < 1285802027 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: err, i was supporting joules < 1285802030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's from the 60s < 1285802032 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's your excuse < 1285802038 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 433 * 4.2 < 1285802040 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1818.6000000000001 < 1285802047 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yeah... Nutrion is not a science (at least judging from behaviour of "scientists" of that field). < 1285802048 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1285802126 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285802129 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (433 * 4.2) * 6 * (10^23) < 1285802130 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.09116e27 < 1285802166 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we get on the order of 10^30 joules of energy per *mole* of HS and FOOF reacting. < 1285802178 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, wait. < 1285802192 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((433 * 4.2) * 6 * (10^23)) / 4 < 1285802193 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.7279e26 < 1285802197 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha... The very first sentence of this article (happens to be about nutrion) is completely wrong... < 1285802205 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3*10^29 joules. < 1285802217 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: sheesh read the corrections above < 1285802219 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's way too high... < 1285802235 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 433 kcal _is_ for moles < 1285802265 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For 1 mole of FOOF or for 4 moles of FOOF reacting with H2S? < 1285802276 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ahhh. < 1285802285 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION guesses the latter < 1285802343 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1285802345 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, and when the first sentence is completely wrong, one might think that the rest of article is full of misinformation. Indeed it is... < 1285802447 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1285802453 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaarticle/. < 1285802461 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 mole of FOOF is 70g... So 4 moles would be 280g. < 1285802478 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just one I ran across... < 1285802479 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsar bomba was about 210000 TJ, says wp < 1285802542 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.1*10^17 joules < 1285802550 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's section about smoking... That's probably the only one that's not completely wrong... < 1285802612 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so way too high indeed < 1285802642 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as scale, Sun emits about 4 * 10^26 joules of energy per second... < 1285802695 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically if the numbers had been right we'd have been toast after that experiment < 1285802762 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Well, there's section about smoking... That's probably the only one that's not completely wrong... <-- smooking what? < 1285802769 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had a horrible mental image < 1285802774 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pigs fly and the hell is frozen, i applied for a job of C# programmer < 1285802780 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tobacco... < 1285802784 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a guy smooking a cigar with FOOF < 1285802790 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a horrible mental picture < 1285802792 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOOF would be somewhere in the region of... 80 gfm? < 1285802806 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's FOOF? < 1285802821 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dioxygen difluoride. < 1285802828 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, F_2O_2 < 1285802830 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really really reactive compound. < 1285802860 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Explodes on contact with water in cryogenic temperatures... < 1285802871 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 4 mol of it would have a mass of 320g. < 1285802876 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course, water is ice in that temperatures). < 1285802883 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 433 / 320 < 1285802884 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.353125 < 1285802884 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its about 70g/mol... So 280g... < 1285802904 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 433 / 280 < 1285802906 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.5464285714285715 < 1285802923 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (433 / 280) * 4.2 < 1285802924 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6.495 < 1285802937 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6.4 kJ/g < 1285802943 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*6.5 < 1285802952 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... pretty damn high. < 1285802993 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see, the specific heat capacity of water is 4.18kJ/kg/°C < 1285803052 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, there's the HS to account for. < 1285803075 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (433 / (280 + 32 + 1)) * 4.2 < 1285803076 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.810223642172525 < 1285803100 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it H2S? < 1285803115 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't that be dihydrogen sulphide? < 1285803118 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1285803135 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (433 / (280 + 32 + 2)) * 4.2 < 1285803136 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5.79171974522293 < 1285803145 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sulfur is group 16, so it tends to form two bonds... Hydrogen tends to form one... < 1285803161 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so it's 5.8kJ/g < 1285803176 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, that's more than TNT. < 1285803242 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 418 / 5.8 < 1285803244 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 72.06896551724138 < 1285803251 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add to that kinetics and thermodynamics that tend to favor highly rapid reaction... < 1285803273 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From this I conclude that 72g of the reactants will boil a litre of water at 0°C. < 1285803327 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just heat to 100 degC... Boiling water takes LOTS of energy... < 1285803339 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so smoking FOOF in a cigarette would do nothing < 1285803356 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since cigarettes burn in ca 700 Celcius degs < 1285803372 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, its on order of 2000kJ/kg to boil water... < 1285803389 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, latent heat of vapourisation... < 1285803419 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels stupid. < 1285803424 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And FOOF does something nasty in way below zero celsius or so... < 1285803511 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And wonder what the compounds with six oxygens and two fluorines are like... :-) < 1285803597 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the reactants should do other stuff... < 1285803662 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised if FOOF and LOx mixed together would explode before LOx boiled off... < 1285803755 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop sodium in a toilet < 1285803761 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for profit < 1285803765 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been done. Repeatedly. < 1285803852 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my grandpa was charged for sabotage by soviets when he did this on his university < 1285803899 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → sleep < 1285803989 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : so smoking FOOF in a cigarette would do nothing < 1285803989 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : since cigarettes burn in ca 700 Celcius degs < 1285803990 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1285804000 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, probably very toxic < 1285804001 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1285804009 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would explode before that < 1285804010 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1285804015 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cigarettes are already very toxic < 1285804021 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1285804021 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would evaporate and/or explode before that < 1285804039 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, not in the "kills you dead right now" kind of way < 1285804042 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought FOOF explodes only in contact with water in v. low temperatures < 1285804050 0 :olsner!~sal@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1285804055 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, it explodes in contact with about everything < 1285804062 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWESOME < 1285804070 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :way better than H-bomb < 1285804073 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, and it isn't stable at higher temperatures < 1285804087 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that is why only low temperatures are discussed < 1285804111 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beh < 1285804156 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1285804287 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some other compounds that are erm... Somewhat unstable in that "Things I won't work with" category. < 1285804315 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The things that don't even need you to look at them wrong to explode... < 1285804385 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, but chemical reactions seem pretty lame anyway < 1285804393 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least compared to the nucular ones < 1285804426 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three kinds of exploding compounds: One that require proper ignition, things that explode if you look at them wrong and things that explode even if you don't look at them wrong... < 1285804683 0 :Kordalien!~chatzilla@71.141.89.187 JOIN :#esoteric