< 1284508821 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1284508841 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I propose we sue Apple for funding. < 1284508910 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish it was easy to put graphical Linux programs in a sandbox. Wait... we could! < 1284508951 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'see, what I'm thinking here now is: You put an apt:// link on a page, and voila! Clicking it "downloads" (installs with the installed-GC thing) and opens it in a total sandbox. < 1284508967 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because really all it needs to be able to do is access your ~ based on a file open/close dialogue... < 1284509045 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INSUFFICIENT TALKING < 1284509050 0 :wareya_!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1284509052 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Topic for #slate is: The Slate programming language | http://code.google.com/p/slate-language http://www.slatelanguage.org http://github.com/briantrice/slate-language http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/slate/ < 1284509054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curses! < 1284509062 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not another one < 1284509068 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: Slate is old < 1284509069 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TUNES old < 1284509070 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i know, i know) < 1284509074 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was hosted on tunes until recently < 1284509079 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only recently topicalized < 1284509085 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :topicalised how < 1284509093 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you started talking about it < 1284509096 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's prototype-based smalltalk (which is cool) < 1284509099 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: just now, you mean? < 1284509107 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just today as far as i'm aware < 1284509111 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was quoting it to curse them for stealing my channel name. < 1284509120 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: No, "Slate" is my tablet. < 1284509120 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION switches his loyalty and love to Slate
< 1284509142 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smiles wanly
< 1284509153 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's no emoticon for that) < 1284509157 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, prototype-based Smalltalk? So, what's the difference between Slate and Self? < 1284509165 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: :douglasadams: < 1284509172 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 4,000 miles and a zebra < 1284509173 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: slate has more unicorns < 1284509183 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's different. < 1284509187 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: zebracorns < 1284509187 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it has multimethods < 1284509191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. methods aren't attached to the object < 1284509197 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like CLOS < 1284509201 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooo < 1284509221 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes CLOS-like, but hasn't actually tried CLOS
< 1284509229 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just Factorness, which is apparently CLOS-like < 1284509276 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1284509276 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what comes next in this sequence: Thue, ///, ... < 1284509277 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I hate your guts. < 1284509282 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: a donkey < 1284509283 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..? < 1284509288 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or: < 1284509295 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a LED with no power supply < 1284509296 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: i ain't gonna implement no donkey in R though. < 1284509305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the statistics R, right? < 1284509310 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1284509315 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do it in E instead. < 1284509322 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouter's E? < 1284509323 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.erights.org/ < 1284509324 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This E. < 1284509332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The capability-security language. < 1284509336 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty cool. < 1284509344 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ANOTHER PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE < 1284509346 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still wants Newspeak to mature
< 1284509347 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Fortran < 1284509348 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ANOTHER PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE < 1284509364 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: that e is boring < 1284509368 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is not < 1284509375 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1284509382 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have you become boring < 1284509397 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have my reasons. wait what? < 1284509412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just whatevering anything without looking at it :P < 1284509419 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen it before < 1284509441 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not boring: Sgeo going insane. < 1284509448 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, wait, that is rather boring < 1284509463 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha they call e users elang-ers < 1284509466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the erlang guys must hate them < 1284509553 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if we made a language named "er" ... < 1284509564 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: is boring now and thus doesn't belong here. < 1284509588 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think cpressey may be a bit pissed off. < 1284509593 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a hunch though < 1284509709 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: quick, generate an insane idea < 1284509829 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: pikhq: Does the Device work on you? < 1284509834 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very rusty... < 1284509842 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: hey you didn't notice my insane idea < 1284509848 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what was it < 1284509852 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be a cross of E and R < 1284509862 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : now if we made a language named "er" ... < 1284509864 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not insane, you're slipping < 1284509881 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wails
< 1284509888 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU MEAN < 1284510125 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1284510154 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: a program that automatically creates a 3D world to explore given only a text adventure as input < 1284510185 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: noted. wait, on the Slate? < 1284510197 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you asked for an insane idea < 1284510201 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1284510202 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1284510203 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my head just exploded < 1284510219 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a Slate, it would be more useful getting it to automatically illustrate fiction books < 1284510224 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as reading is a common use for a tablet PC < 1284510235 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh i dunno with a regular display that's not so good :P < 1284510246 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd use one of those Pixel Qi displays, but... they're not really ready yet. < 1284510588 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A realistic portrayal of AI! http://cowbirdsinlove.com/906 < 1284510616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also notable for being the first ever instance of the line "Suck it, Werner Heisenberg!".) < 1284510634 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise : heheheh < 1284510641 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: Has title text) < 1284510854 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every webcomic does nowadays < 1284510878 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, CBIL used to have terrible art. < 1284510915 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://cowbirdsinlove.com/5) < 1284510934 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's actually better art than in 1-4 :P) < 1284510936 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: not IWC < 1284510952 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you can call that a WEBCOMIC < 1284510962 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or darths & droids < 1284511339 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1284511415 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284511521 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 < 1284512619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an Inspector Gadget Minus Gadget < 1284512623 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazing < 1284513766 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1284514085 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Is it just Penny (was that her name?) solving all the crimes/mysteries for no apparent reason? < 1284514093 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1284514100 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6MR14mFtIw < 1284514108 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It flows perfectly < 1284514198 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure enough. < 1284514223 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Where's Uncle Gadget" indeed. < 1284514327 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1284514340 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured they'd remove all references to him. < 1284514347 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But just all scenes with him. < 1284514351 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kinda interesting :P < 1284514487 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he's taking the jet, which presumably means he already killed Gadget, and we just didn't see those scenes. < 1284514493 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At 3:45) < 1284514511 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Penny seems unconcerned. < 1284514561 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I figured they'd remove all references to him. < 1284514561 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : But just all scenes with him. < 1284514562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1284514573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1284514585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight. < 1284514588 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye. < 1284514590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1284514671 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Uncle Gadget will never find us here!" < 1284514674 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, she's in denial. < 1284514675 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it. < 1284514693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1284514810 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sounds like everything's back to normal" WHERE IS THE PILOT FOR YOUR PLANE < 1284514854 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is amazing how irrelevant Gadget is :P < 1284514901 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are probably strictly MORE idiosyncrasies in the normal version. < 1284514947 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gadget serves to be the namesake. < 1284514955 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crappy job, really. < 1284515617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1284515624 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's *tobacco* subsidies in the US. < 1284515629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition to tobacco taxes. < 1284515653 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*We simultaneously tax and subsidise tobacco*. < 1284515782 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i don't know that there is tobacco grown in norway, i'm pretty sure similar stuff applies to most of our farming < 1284515924 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the EU has the CAP < 1284516057 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alcohol might be a better example for us, i'm sure we both make it and (even more sure) tax it heavily < 1284516069 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/us/norway/ < 1284516139 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: btw you asked the other day if norwegian was hard to learn. i forgot about the bokmål/nynorsk/dialects complications < 1284516185 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you'd normally only learn to _use_ bokmål specifically, you'd want to learn to understand the rest... < 1284516214 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you have the government *paying people* to make alcohol? < 1284516267 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: maybe not for making the alcohol but probably for growing the plants to make it < 1284516355 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd _guess_ there are no _specific_ alcohol subsidies. < 1284516546 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We directly pay people to grow tobacco *explicitly*. And then tax the tobacco when it's sold. < 1284516565 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1284516567 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the payment for the tobacco subsidy comes out of the tobacco tax. < 1284516807 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically, the government IS the tobacco industry. < 1284517404 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.8/20100722155716] < 1284519079 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't emacs in Perl mode have any C-c bindings? < 1284519273 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone please explain Perl < 1284519283 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl's weird behavior upon doing modulo 1? < 1284519287 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is 'ua' in "actually" a diaeresis? < 1284519328 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what weird behavior < 1284519362 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :print (5 % 1); < 1284519363 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0[ < 1284519370 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, that [ was just my prompt < 1284519380 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wai.. no < 1284519385 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, duh < 1284519388 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms
< 1284519395 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION assumes you figured it out
< 1284519431 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot rightly comprehend the confusion of ideas that led me to believe that doing something modulo 1 would simply round the something < 1284519476 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a load of babbage < 1284519483 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I doubt it. < 1284519546 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I guess I'm trying to figure out if 'ua' is a diphthong :P < 1284519552 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is. < 1284519566 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if it is, then actUAlly is a diaeresis! < 1284519574 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: this non-native speaker guesses it depends on dialect, like everything else < 1284519578 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe just how I pronounce it? < 1284519582 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yuh >_< < 1284519589 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Quite true. < 1284519601 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English has a lot of variation in the spoken language. < 1284519612 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how it compares to other languages in that regard. < 1284519622 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a lot of people just pronounce it like "actchally" < 1284519645 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*ignoring* things like "Chinese" which are a fucking language *family*, last mutually intelligible 2000 years ago) < 1284519762 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i can say that norwegian has a bit as well :P < 1284519829 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Actually, some argue that you've merely got a single Scandinavian language. :P < 1284519859 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's when we invade them with our army and navy < 1284519878 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1284519896 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least look sternly at them < 1284519909 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION titles his homework assignment with the thing about Perl in the topic
< 1284521553 0 :cal153!~cal@c-24-4-207-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1284522430 0 :__s!4800d25a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.0.210.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284522542 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi __s < 1284522550 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1284522575 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you a regular here? If not, what do you believe this channel is about? < 1284522581 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's odd seeing a discussion of one's program without their presence < 1284522585 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1284522595 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe this discussion is about esoteric programming languages < 1284522618 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, just wanted to be sure. Some people come here thinking that it's about ... spiritual stuff.. esoterica? < 1284522623 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems the two I recognize from what I read previous is Deewiant and pikhq < 1284522624 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What program? < 1284522647 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://github.com/serprex/Befunge < 1284522656 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally fixed it < 1284522672 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discussions I found were from before I had it running Wumpus even < 1284522708 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading made me wish I'd heard some things prior < 1284522726 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm about to test with dimensions of powers of two < 1284522750 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But overall I figure I should inquire to the details of what's been done with Befunge and jits so far < 1284522784 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is probably the wrong person to ask
< 1284522795 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now I have an idea that would lack an optimizer. An array of commands' assembly to glue together < 1284522814 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm aware there's an LLVM attempt, but LLVM is rather heavy to what should be rather light weight < 1284522825 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unladden swallow is quite amusing < 1284522893 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__s: i recall fizzie had a jit befunge under construction < 1284522924 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he's sticking to the habit of keeping a program under wraps until it's done? < 1284522947 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programs are never done, release broken code and keep releasing broken code. Sooner or later people will think it works < 1284522954 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know _that_, but last i heard it still was pretty buggy < 1284522991 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been finding it rather hard to find fast interpreters < 1284522994 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also for all i know he _has_ put it on the web, i just don't remember < 1284523011 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: jit befunge where? < 1284523038 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess fizzie's jit is the llvm attempt you mention < 1284523086 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How was the performance, bugs aside? < 1284523093 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Performance including memory use < 1284523107 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1284523220 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a resource better than the rather scarce esolang where I can find fast Befunge interpreters and benchmarks? < 1284523256 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i know, unless it's linked there < 1284523269 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is definitely not a befunge expert
< 1284523326 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only recall fizzie's jit because it was discussed in this channel < 1284523385 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__s: the mycology website's decent for compliance testing < 1284523395 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it tends to touch on those other issues tangentially as a resut < 1284523398 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*result < 1284523402 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mycology was good for 98 < 1284523433 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have mostly abandoned 93 except for fun, it's mostly limited < 1284523442 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 98 is fun too, but in a different way < 1284523468 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First I want to go as far as I can with 93 < 1284523480 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION groans
< 1284523486 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AOL working with Jonas Brothers to 'redesign the Internet'" < 1284523497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1284523498 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also recall mycology has a 93 part but the interpreter needs to load only the 80 x 25 top part < 1284523504 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this actually happens and takes off, I am beginning a genocide program. < 1284523505 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, interps that do 98 quickly tend to do 93 quickly < 1284523516 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mycology's 93 test was rather short < 1284523525 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfunge and ccbi are both pretty good < 1284523535 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there isn't so much you can fit into a -93 program, at least in terms of messages < 1284523538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor so much you can test < 1284523538 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much is 98 a superset of 93? < 1284523544 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost exactly < 1284523544 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__s: Not much. < 1284523560 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, as in 93 programs tend to work unchanged in 98 < 1284523567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they rely on weird undocumented behaviour < 1284523572 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main difference is the behaviour of whitespace in strings < 1284523573 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is much of Befunge. < 1284523581 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. '93. < 1284523584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you'd be a fool to /rely/ on it < 1284523609 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not specified what the memory space is filled with. < 1284523642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice, spaces or zeros < 1284523647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can always write it by hand to make sure < 1284523654 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just fill the entire 80x25 area in the initial progra < 1284523655 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*program < 1284523720 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1284523742 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With 93 I was thinking of an assembly solution that would work by having all instructions be the same size < 1284523787 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm unsure how much it'd raise itself over a threaded interpreter < 1284523797 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be able to gain speed in one direction < 1284523818 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has finally broken down and gotten a Facebook account... Thing.
< 1284523842 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mycology has -93 sup.. oh < 1284523921 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Where would I find your threaded Befunge interpreter? < 1284523933 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__s: Uh. Lemme pastebin. < 1284523955 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to get a website. < 1284523959 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/XdXE < 1284524041 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You need to get .. < 1284524043 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A HACKIKI < 1284524052 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, you're not in the Navy, are you? < 1284524053 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't use rand because it's rather meh < 1284524064 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No. < 1284524077 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Why would you ask, anyways? < 1284524084 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: HEY I KNOW U < 1284524085 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like your method of setting up the lookup table < 1284524090 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ZOMG I KNOW < 1284524117 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1284524136 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, because there's someone with your name on Facebook who's in the Navy < 1284524199 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, misremembered your name < 1284524244 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course right now, as per almost never, my Facebook photo isn't a real picture :P < 1284524247 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems mine's faster on my adder benchmark. But of course that's flawed, since that's what I optimized for. What benchmark do you use? < 1284524259 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: amusing, given how many real pictures of you there are around the internet < 1284524294 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Josiah Worcester. < 1284524303 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found you via Gregor's page < 1284524320 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, but the Gregor *artist* page does have a real picture. < 1284524337 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1284524342 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if he should maybe allow online persons to see tagged pictures of me
< 1284524348 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the worst that could happen? < 1284524350 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://codu.org/tmp/existentialism.png this is my current FB picture :P < 1284524409 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Gah, I ignored the friend request and then realised it was you. < 1284524425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Have I *ever* met this guy? No." "... Oh, Sgeo. Fuck." < 1284524508 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should get around to making a decision on the 80 or so pending friend requests
< 1284524538 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1284524558 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1284524567 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're less privacy-conscious than I? < 1284524568 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you experiment with having x,y be a single value? < 1284524572 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't spell today
< 1284524585 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I can: t o d a y < 1284524604 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Dude, I practically run around going "I'm Josiah 'pikhq' Worcester, and I live in Colorado" online. < 1284524610 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, like that! < 1284524621 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how often do you give out your address online? < 1284524624 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Dood, I'm more exhibitionist than you! < 1284524632 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- MY NAME < 1284524635 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Not that often. < 1284524651 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody stated their address to me one time < 1284524651 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yeahyeahyeah. < 1284524657 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I showed up the next day < 1284524664 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had me out the door within half an hour < 1284524673 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__s: I feel that pikhq ought to be responding to you, so I will because I don't really do Befunge :P < 1284524697 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__s: Was this just like "My address is if you want to send me a postcard" and then you showed up? < 1284524723 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was an MSN contact, person stated their address since they were having a party < 1284524726 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do esolangs that often, except for PSOX which isn't an esolang < 1284524729 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__s: x,y as a single value? No, I didn't really mess with it much. < 1284524767 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although Mixfix will be a beautifully readable language that combines prefix, infix, and postfix, and is just incredibly awesome < 1284524775 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as you don't mind your brain exploding < 1284524777 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was curious, since it's one of the more arbitrary choices we diverged on < 1284524816 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Inspired by shuffling yard fun when you don't sanitize input? < 1284524836 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shuffling yard? < 1284524864 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inspired by me thinking that "somequestion?" is nice as postfix, but postfix if gives me headaches. And also wondering about doing prefix without parens < 1284524868 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friend of mine implemented a shuffling yard infix parser, it ended up also accepting postfix < 1284524905 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wishing there was a language that would let infix use space parans < 1284524919 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a+b * c -> (a+b)*c < 1284524944 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Falcon (hated be the language) do that? < 1284524955 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'ven't seen this Falcon < 1284524977 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION may be mistaken
< 1284524983 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm certain I've seen it somewhere < 1284524991 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some dead language loved by alise < 1284525032 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.falconpl.org/ WARNING: NOT SAFE FOR SANITY < 1284525059 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are .. somehow hard-coded in < 1284525065 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes me feel like it is trying to sell something too much < 1284525069 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a special bit, I think. I don't really know the details < 1284525163 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could _swear_ I've seen the feature you're asking for before though < 1284525293 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaand someone running for Congress in the US (as a Republican) wants to *ban masturbation*. < 1284525315 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And believes her enemies hide in shrubs. < 1284525326 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>USA < 1284525332 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>Republican congress candidates < 1284525338 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahahahahaha, that's funny! < 1284525354 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it that one of the two major parties here is not merely bad but *ACTUALLY CRAZY*? < 1284525372 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're both crazy. < 1284525377 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The democrats are just less crazy. < 1284525397 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, see, the Democrats are (mostly) just assholes. < 1284525398 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, a vast majority of the land in america is covered by white trash. < 1284525407 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the USA at least. < 1284525411 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Republicans are *literally crazy*. < 1284525424 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, that's true. The vast majority of the *land* is unsettled. < 1284525425 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't get me wrong, the democrats are too. < 1284525451 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The republicans are the bright white that makes the gray of the democrats look like black. < 1284525459 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was the last time a Democrat claimed his enemies were literally hiding in the bushes? < 1284525483 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, I don't pay attention to regional politics all over the country. < 1284525489 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not saying "the Republicans are doing some ignorant things". I am saying that they have ceased to have any grip on sanity. < 1284525490 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Falcon seems a lot like Python with Ruby block syntax with the creator's eccentricities all over. I thought they'd gone for Python's going for a print function, then figured the whole > >> syntax < 1284525499 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sanity/reality/ < 1284525543 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the Republicans" have to sensualize everything to make other republicans vote for them. < 1284525553 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :White trash isn't smart enough to care about actual politics. < 1284525556 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me, or do the only two near-term options for healthcare both suck? < 1284525576 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leave HCR as is (it's rather broken) or undo everything, going back to previous painful breakage? < 1284525585 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HCR is a good start that needs to be fixed < 1284525587 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1284525613 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: We can't have good healthcare. Industry wouldn't profit. < 1284525620 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should have just built on medicare. < 1284525807 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wareya_: That would be sane. < 1284525815 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>should < 1284525826 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the few sane and reasonable Congressmen did, in fact, propose that. < 1284525831 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a 4 page bill. < 1284525836 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1284525844 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad out congress is insane. < 1284525847 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :our* < 1284525851 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I don't think US can feasibly get healthcare. They're jealous of us Canadians, but Canada's healthcare is having trouble keeping up with the population finally growing closer to 40M rather than 30M < 1284525919 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__s: So, you think it will remain being the only developed nation without universal healthcare? < 1284525948 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably this has something to do with $1 trillion being an okay defense budget but heaven forbid a few billion go towards healthcare. < 1284525992 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How well working are other nations' healthcare? It's a messy thing, pushed too much by all that altruism for people who can't prove themselves < 1284525998 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I get sick, how difficult would it be to move to Canada? < 1284526005 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUPPORT YOUR TROOPS < 1284526010 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR YOUR FREEDOM < 1284526035 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that defense debt is something to deal with factor wise < 1284526050 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__s: Our healthcare system is comparable with some third-world nations. < 1284526063 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is by far the worst of any developed nation. < 1284526077 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most third world nations have better healthcare than america < 1284526100 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for Expensive Innovative Special procedures < 1284526104 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Depends on a few things. < 1284526105 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much is it held back by legislation not allowing a competitive price to enter the market? < 1284526129 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__s: Healthcare is inherently non-competitive in many situations. < 1284526151 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(namely, emergency care. Which, incidentally, is the *only form of care many Americans get*.) < 1284526210 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, most of the "not allowing a competitive price" thing is actually the *insurance companies*. < 1284526212 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the problem with US in some ways. It's unsure whether to let business push or government, so it ends up being that the government tells business to push while constricting business from doing so < 1284527169 0 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1284527173 0 :__s!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1284529031 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1284530919 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1284531107 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1284531521 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1284531570 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1284531778 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1284533226 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1284533590 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1284534359 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1284536852 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1284537052 0 :relet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1284537467 0 :augur!~augur@208-58-6-161.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1284537573 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-12-179.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1284537599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1284537600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1284538072 0 :relet!~hirtho@159.162.68.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284538233 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1284538257 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1284538298 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284538371 0 :Quadrescence!~Quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence JOIN :#esoteric < 1284538584 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1284538652 0 :atrapado!~ro@193.144.79.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284540682 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1284540937 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1284541185 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1284543178 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1284544493 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jij < 1284547263 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1284547580 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1284549717 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1284551028 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1284551385 0 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1284552634 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Welcome honored guest. I got the key you want! would you like onderves. of Yourself < 1284554440 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello sweethearts < 1284555582 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1284556979 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284558839 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1284562765 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1284563042 0 :relet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1284563057 0 :relet!~hirtho@159.162.68.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284563311 0 :relet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1284563808 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.185.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284564165 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1284565467 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1284565476 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1284565476 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1284565710 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1284566083 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1284566118 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.185.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284566198 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1284566510 0 :augur_!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1284566535 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1284566605 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION Facebookstalks Sgeo
< 1284566617 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, boring. < 1284566620 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does other things.
< 1284566636 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION verbs Phantom_Hoover in a Phantom_Hoovering way
< 1284566807 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verb some nouns there. < 1284566878 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I noun a few verbs while I'm at it? < 1284566886 0 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1284566899 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1284567262 0 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@137.125.184.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284567274 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My laptop fell < 1284567288 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now it's acting as if the HD is mostly dead < 1284567385 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly, though. It is successfully getting to the point where it asks which OS to boot into < 1284567438 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1: you appear to be cursed < 1284567455 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any chance of downloading a small, bootable OS to my phone? < 1284567470 0 :Flonk!~chatzilla@93-82-39-97.adsl.highway.telekom.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1284567497 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: As long as you make sure to maintain the delicate verb-noun balance. < 1284567650 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't very well use a computer to make my phone be bootable usb < 1284567664 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1, hmm. < 1284567687 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of bandwidth and capacity to you have? < 1284567733 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1284567742 0 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@137.125.184.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284567766 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much capacity, I am on wifi < 1284567777 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have an idea? < 1284567788 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, no optical drives to boot from? Though I guess actually preparing boot media might be tricky if you don't have one handy. < 1284567789 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can delete some stuff < 1284567806 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an ancient computer at home < 1284567815 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want to solve this in class < 1284567969 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1, well, the Ubuntu live disk is ~700MB, so that's no good. < 1284567974 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting the phone's USB mess-storage device bootable from the phone itself sounds untrivial, unless someone's already done a tool for that. Though I guess if it just exports a memory card directly you could dd a boot sector in. < 1284568020 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was hoping for DSL < 1284568048 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Later < 1284568087 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if it does something to make the memory card usable simultaneously from the phone and via USB, it might be that it fakes a device and filesystem over USB, and thusly might not be able to make it bootable. < 1284568119 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, awful weather out there, but I need to get home from this conference-place. < 1284568172 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not simultaneously available < 1284568184 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last I checked < 1284568217 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it sounds doable. I guess you have a dd on the phone? < 1284568355 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, the weather's lovely here... < 1284568363 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's against the natural order! < 1284568553 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using a classmate's PC < 1284568560 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1284568784 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1, are you on Windows? < 1284568813 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just finished with pendrive's instructions < 1284568868 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need *instructions* for a *flash drive*? < 1284569008 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not working < 1284569080 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can you possibly need instructions for? < 1284569107 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avoiding erasing my SD card? < 1284569135 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in any case, if you need instructions for a flash drive, you will never get it to work in a BIOS. < 1284569140 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what else could I have done from Windows? < 1284569156 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1284569206 0 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1284569206 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1284569206 0 :coppro!~scshunt@unaffiliated/scshunt JOIN :#esoteric < 1284569322 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear thingie that happens when I try using the installed Ubuntu: stop complaining about the nonMS os < 1284569377 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a genuine dual-boot setup would have saved me here < 1284569517 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1, so, what have you learnt today? < 1284569547 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't drop computers? < 1284569575 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always have bootable media on hand? < 1284569617 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't use the Windows based Ubuntu installer? < 1284569624 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one. < 1284569694 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there were times that it was helpful < 1284569791 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the chance of actual physical damage? < 1284569809 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medium, I should think. < 1284569893 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you use Windows since AW doesn't have the decency to run on a nice OS? < 1284569925 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, partially < 1284569933 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lesson in that, too. < 1284570035 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What lesson? < 1284570131 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't let a single piece of software dictate your decisions to the extent that your computer can be made into a very expensive nightlight with a single drop. < 1284570158 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think even Windows can cause physical damage < 1284570240 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. But you haven't even dual-booted properly. < 1284570278 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably have an Ubuntu LiveCD lying around < 1284570298 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if not, I do have an old.computer with disk burning ability < 1284570352 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1284570456 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1, why the hell did you use the Windows installer in the first place? < 1284570477 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question < 1284570502 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it installs Ubuntu *in an image file on your Windows filesystem*. < 1284570506 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words fail me. < 1284570539 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That's still better than Slack's old umsdos installation. < 1284570557 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: For some values of "better" anyway. < 1284570570 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going off irc to save battery powe < 1284570626 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one installs to bazillion files in a directory on a FAT filesystem, with extra data (long filenames, permissions) in some hidden metadata files. < 1284570777 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1284570836 0 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1284570883 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1284570937 0 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@137.125.184.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284571012 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given the intensity of rain here, I sure hope this poster tube is waterproof. It has this telescoping extensible design that I find suspicious. < 1284571269 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is Finland one of those places where the weather is consistently interesting? < 1284571435 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1284571448 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not proverbially bad, but I guess there's a moderate amount of variation. < 1284571521 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This year's summer was uncommonly warm and sunny, but the autumn seems thus far normally wet. < 1284571596 0 :SgeoN2!~AndChat@166.196.245.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284571624 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, this phone is about to run out of freshly squeezed orange juice. Maybe I'll stay quiet for the rest of the bus trip. < 1284571636 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some tech guy put my HD into some external reader thing, and the disk showed up as uninitialized < 1284571660 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You hit it so hard the bits fell off. < 1284571700 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this as terrible a sign as he implied? < 1284571721 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly is not a *good* sign. < 1284571787 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, there are tools to extract files from byte soup even if partition and filesystem structures are gone. < 1284571837 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading a full disk image out might be a good idea, assuming you have space for one somewhere. < 1284572000 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that, given Wubi's idiotic installation system, your NTFS partition was corrupted and your Ubuntu system fell with it. < 1284572046 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1284572125 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1284572307 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1284572759 0 :alise!~alise@91.104.246.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284572838 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like an artichoke! < 1284572861 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:37:32 I think they have some sort of automation to catch people who do long-running CPU-intensive tasks. < 1284572864 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what's the point? < 1284573038 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:54:47 Is 'ua' in "actually" a diaeresis? < 1284573048 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you all asking about this so much :P < 1284573079 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :US pronunciation is /ˈæk.tʃu.ə.li/ < 1284573084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately i don't know what that implies :D < 1284573096 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: give me the syllables of actually < 1284573106 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ac tu al ly < 1284573110 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ac-tu-a-lly < 1284573124 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a diarrheasis. < 1284573129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*diarrhoeasis < 1284573134 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*diarrhoeasis. < 1284573144 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was my argument too, but that's only the case if 'ua' is actually a diphthong normally :P < 1284573149 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In linguistics, diaeresis, diæresis or dieresis, is the pronunciation of two adjacent vowels in two separate syllables rather than as a diphthong or vowel digraph, and also the name of the diacritic mark ( ¨ ) used to prompt the reader to pronounce adjacent vowels in this manner." < 1284573157 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: no, it's valid anywhere technically :P < 1284573166 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd just be mad to use it on /anything/ except adjacent identical vowels < 1284573170 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is its only real purpose < 1284573174 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody says actu-ally or whatever < 1284573176 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just co-operates < 1284573178 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*co-operate < 1284573184 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and - is just the diaeresis < 1284573226 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coëfficient is fine because you can say co-efficient without seeming retarded < 1284573390 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh < 1284573395 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naïve is another example. < 1284573404 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are plenty of examples that are adjacent different vowels. < 1284573432 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but as a general rule < 1284573435 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since a naïve reader of "naive" would pronounce it as "knave", there's a plenty-good reason to have a diaeresis mark there. < 1284573445 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is well-known to be inconsistent :P < 1284573453 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your FACE is well-known to be inconsistent. < 1284573453 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah: English spelling reflects pronunciation so well usually. < 1284573517 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your FACE reflects pronunciation so well usually! < 1284573536 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I am going to keep saying "your FACE " as a response to everything :P < 1284573572 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My face reflects your FACE. < 1284573581 0 :cal153!~cal@c-24-4-207-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1284573664 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE < 1284573686 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Abandonando < 1284573912 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1284574091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After the Tuttle CentOS incident, wherein city manager Jerry Taylor of Tuttle, Oklahoma's web host, which uses CentOS, had technical issues, leading him to threaten to report CentOS to the FBI (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/24/tuttle_centos/): < 1284574093 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taylor stated that those commenting about him online were "a bunch of freaks out there that don’t have anything better to do ... [CentOS is] a free operating system that this guy gives away, which tells you how much time he’s got on his hands." < 1284574102 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he doesn't need his web site after all, then. < 1284574140 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In response to the media coverage of the incident, Taylor defended his actions and pointed out that his threats of FBI action were effective. “After that, he called me Mr. Taylor,” he said, “And he got me the information I needed.”) < 1284574148 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe we should waterboard him and claim it was effective afterwards.) < 1284574320 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Report CentOS to the FBI ... for what? < 1284574339 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haw, lawl < 1284574343 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outstanding. < 1284574351 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127 < 1284574356 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The complete email exchange. < 1284574364 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beautiful. < 1284574427 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Area of Tuttle, Oklahoma: 29.2 square miles. < 1284574437 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1284574437 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Population: 4,294 < 1284574452 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tuttle is a largely agricultural community with a focus on wheat, cotton, corn, alfalfa hay, Bermuda grass hay, and cattle." < 1284574454 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Big shots, these guys. < 1284574467 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The racial makeup of the city was 91.34% White, 4.98% Native American, 0.16% Asian, 0.09% from other races, and 3.42% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.21% of the population. 0% of the population is African American." < 1284574469 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diverse too. < 1284574516 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1284574584 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is Oklahoma :P < 1284574597 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just Oklahoma; City of TUTTLE, Oklahoma! < 1284574649 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Will Johnny be pursued by the FBI? < 1284574649 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will the City of Tuttle disappear, only to be replaced by a generic apache test page? < 1284574649 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am surprised he isn't emailing the Apache Tribe and threatening them, too!" < 1284574651 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ the second one < 1284574670 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to City of Tuttle! < 1284574672 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works! < 1284574676 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are the administrator of this town... < 1284574692 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1284575800 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should logread < 1284575815 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if anyone said anything about my plight < 1284575919 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apes are EVIL < 1284575960 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1284576082 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 148-key MEGABOARD: http://www.quadibloc.com/comp/images/enhpc.gif < 1284576096 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The previous keyboard illustration showed a basic set of keys that could fit on a normal PC keyboard, taking the same amount of space, even though moving the main area of the keyboard slightly to the right created space for a few additional keys. The emphasis was on showing how APL characters could be distributed. < 1284576096 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since, however, among the added keys were the extra shifts used with the Emacs editor, and on the Symbolics LISP machine, this inspired looking again at how an expanded keyboard which provides the extra keys used in a number of environments that people have grown fond of, and which can be hosted on a PC today. < 1284576096 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, the keyboard illustrated above has 148 keys, so that someone running Solaris on their machine, or someone running a system based on the old Symbolics LISP Machine software or someone connecting to an IBM mainframe via IBM terminal emulation, and thus wanting the extra keys from the 122-key keyboard: those who were doing any or all of those things would have all the keys they are looking for." < 1284576215 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alise I should have listened to you < 1284576224 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1284576244 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN2: ? < 1284576272 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regarding Wubi < 1284576278 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read logs < 1284576293 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You broke your system with it? < 1284576309 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry, but I must: Ha ha! and I told you so. < 1284576312 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...now how can I help. < 1284576325 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but it means the installed Ubuntu is utterly useless to me < 1284576344 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wubi is utterly useless :) but what do you mean? < 1284576407 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dropped laptop, gets to OS selector but not further. Tech person at school put HD in external reader and drive showed up as uninitialized < 1284576441 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he didn't fuck with it I might be able to help... < 1284576447 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the bootloader GRUB or NTDLR (Windows)? < 1284576451 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, my rate is $100/hr. < 1284576461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or $101/hr as a special discount for friends!) < 1284576509 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:55:24 <__s> But he's sticking to the habit of keeping a program under wraps until it's done? < 1284576509 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:55:47 <__s> Programs are never done, release broken code and keep releasing broken code. Sooner or later people will think it works < 1284576515 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ntdlr < 1284576520 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe stop assuming you have a right to see someone else's code before they want you to? < 1284576551 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means, to me, that something's reading < 1284576555 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:04:40 * pikhq groans < 1284576555 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:04:46 "AOL working with Jonas Brothers to 'redesign the Internet'" < 1284576555 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1284576579 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN2: In the MBR, yes. < 1284576586 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't say anything about whether any partitions exist on the disk, though. < 1284576590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What boot options does it list? < 1284576596 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a camera on that fancy phone of yours, now would be a great time to use it. < 1284576664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN2: Your operating system is /probably/ recoverable, but -- do you have any valuable data? If so, the most prudent strategy will be to salvage that onto external media, and then to perform a complete reinstallation. < 1284576673 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Salvaging Windows /and/ Wubi's Ubuntu would be tricky at best... < 1284576755 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if Linux can't see the partition easily? Any tools that would help with that? < 1284576772 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly. First, let's just ... move this to /msg, to complete my sentence with a different one. < 1284577233 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:24:11 <__s> Somebody stated their address to me one time < 1284577233 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:24:17 <__s> I showed up the next day < 1284577245 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fly to England, buddy < 1284577313 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:28:25 <__s> I'm wishing there was a language that would let infix use space parans < 1284577313 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:28:39 <__s> a+b * c -> (a+b)*c < 1284577313 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:29:04 Doesn't Falcon (hated be the language) do that? < 1284577313 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:29:15 <__s> I'ven't seen this Falcon < 1284577313 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:29:37 * Sgeo may be mistaken < 1284577314 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:29:43 But I'm certain I've seen it somewhere < 1284577316 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:29:51 Maybe some dead language loved by alise < 1284577318 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :merd < 1284577377 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alise is obviously just as much of a necrophile as I am < 1284577499 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:39:16 Is it just me, or do the only two near-term options for healthcare both suck? < 1284577499 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:39:36 Leave HCR as is (it's rather broken) or undo everything, going back to previous painful breakage? < 1284577499 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:39:45 HCR is a good start that needs to be fixed < 1284577499 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:39:47 imo < 1284577505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enact single-payer healthcare immediately. < 1284577517 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:46:32 <__s> How well working are other nations' healthcare? It's a messy thing, pushed too much by all that altruism for people who can't prove themselves < 1284577518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, fuck you < 1284577522 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:48:25 <__s> How much is it held back by legislation not allowing a competitive price to enter the market? < 1284577538 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how holier-than-thou the free market guys are... < 1284577551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite taking all the "communistic" privileges given to them by their state < 1284577567 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...hey, it's like economics fundamentalism < 1284577576 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1284578035 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slate needs a better name < 1284578351 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/09/14/dell-tablet-flip-small.jpg < 1284578354 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DELL FUCKING STOLE MY IDEA < 1284578362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except differently < 1284578592 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants
< 1284578664 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: That's ... bizarre. < 1284578674 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But assuming that's a capacitive touch screen, should be good. < 1284578713 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Of course Slate has a capacitative touch screen. < 1284578715 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COUGH COUGH. < 1284578837 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Hey, it's not communism if you're hurting people in the name of profit! < 1284578838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1284578899 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You. You are the Consultant Consultant for Slate. < 1284578903 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will be consulted. < 1284578931 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I presume it shall be a Slate. < 1284578952 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will it be made of slate? < 1284578956 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I consult you on the topic of whether you know what Slate is or not. < 1284578962 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be made of metaphorical slate. < 1284578976 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I know very little of what Slate is. < 1284578998 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Slate is thin! Slate is beautiful! Slate goes any- no, that's the iPad ads. < 1284579023 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From hints, I gather it's a tablet with a touch screen, that is designed to meet the Hird Standards of Design < 1284579023 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Slate is basically touchscreen tablet PCs -- or, uh, the iPad (except it has a fancy physical keyboard) -- done right! < 1284579033 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The keyboard actually comes out from inside. < 1284579039 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a hingey-type design so it can stand like a laptop. < 1284579075 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: Reasonable multi-tasking OS. Sure, everything takes up the whole screen, but ratpoison users do that even on the desktop! < 1284579100 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And full-screen != single-tasking. < 1284579102 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At all. < 1284579104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1284579111 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repositories. etc. Probably no concept of "application install", with just "favourite applications" and the system treating non-favourite application installations as basically cache. < 1284579133 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably -- or even just "maybe" -- no concept of open vs. closed program. Programs are GCed, if that plan is taken. < 1284579143 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browser: probably just a hacked-up Chromium. < 1284579171 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses X11 for ease, but the marketable feature is that it supports any X11 app you want! < 1284579177 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except, uh, maybe not the GIMP. < 1284579223 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ...USB On-The-Go port so you can plug in a keyboard. (Also Bluetooth support for sane people who want to plug in a keyboard.) < 1284579294 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Reasonable-resolution display (obviously). Form factor similar to A4 paper/iPad, but, you know, different. Probably has to be tweaked a bit so the horizontal orientation is alright to use, since that's what you'll have to use when using the keyboard. < 1284579299 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe not? Who knows.) < 1284579317 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Not sure how to handle one thing: if the interface is designed for touch, how do you use it in laptop mode? < 1284579333 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mouse to operate a touch interface is... gruesome. Leaning forwards and prodding at your laptop's monitor is... yeah. < 1284579531 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mrf < 1284579537 0 :iamcal!~cal@c-24-4-207-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1284579547 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1284579704 0 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@166.196.245.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1284579722 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1284579794 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So, I consult you on the solution. < 1284579797 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get to it. < 1284579807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideas preferred the more ridiculous they are. < 1284579841 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Here's one: remove fingers from everyone, then you.. uh, can't do touch at all. Wait, that doesn't quite cut it. < 1284579855 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You are now the Anticonsultant. < 1284579997 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Anyway, uh, yeah. < 1284580012 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Go consult. < 1284580043 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Create a tactile touch keyboard. You can guesture upon the keyboard or type, both naturally. < 1284580058 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes -- and the pony, too. < 1284580060 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Consult moar < 1284580070 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Serious response: I don't think anyone's perfected a tactile touch screen yet, dude.) < 1284580085 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Wear a black turtleneck and convince people that touching a vertical surface is the best thing ever. < 1284580122 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You are the worst consultant ever. < 1284580145 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than fizzie. < 1284580198 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to be worse than someone that keeps cutting fingers off your customers. < 1284580215 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1284580225 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1284580362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is an anticonsultant, not a consultant. For a reason, too. < 1284580377 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Third solution! < 1284580440 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install a cybernetic third eye on everyone's forehead; one that allows for direct telepathetic communication with the Slate. Then you don't need more than one user interface. < 1284580481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually quite like that idea, except for the economic infeasibility of having enough magician-surgeons on hand to perform such an operation. < 1284580518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Slate thing I'm currently thinking about: a secure method of click-a-link-on-the-web-and-the-wonderful-app-opens. < 1284580542 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This also allows an "install" method: click it, then click wherever on the screen turns the little favourite-app star on. Tada.) < 1284580554 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm wondering if I can beat PolicyKit/SELinux into submission. < 1284580585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea would be that clicking an application for the first time would say "This application needs access to the following things to function: - Your webcam - Your personal files. Is this okay?" < 1284580590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But unfortunately, this helps little. < 1284580599 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything that even lets you save a file would have the latter! Although only write permissions. < 1284580610 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically the only hole here is reading and writing to ~... < 1284580637 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Per-app storage, and then you have special permissions for accessing other-app storage. < 1284580642 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess. < 1284580686 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You know, I am aiming for a *modicum* of Linux compatibility here. :P < 1284580701 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And overt application-centricity makes baby kitten jesus vomit. < 1284580736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Opening a file using the pet grants it the right to read and write the file. (File extensions can be associated with a pet.) < 1284580736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polaris intercepts the pet's use of the Windows file chooser dialog box so that it acts as a Powerbox. This means that when the user chooses a file in a File dialog opened by the pet, the system grants the pet access to that file.]] < 1284580738 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if this was practical with linux < 1284580740 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd be sorted < 1284580741 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not < 1284580754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think one-press app runs are pretty nice < 1284580821 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't use Android-style permissions < 1284580827 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does Android do? < 1284580845 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At app install, lists permissions < 1284581057 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything wrong with that? < 1284581141 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1 < 1284581310 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People ignoring it < 1284581331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we'll prompt on API use, then. Like FLASH! < 1284581335 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Foogfof]- < 1284581337 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow < 1284581340 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overly broad permissions ( is it asking for phone/I'd because it wants a unique I'd, o < 1284581342 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Foofooapp wants to use your camera!" < 1284581347 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R something more sinister? < 1284581361 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R: something more sinister. < 1284581377 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annoying users and having them always click yes is also bad < 1284581385 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oww my leg < 1284581512 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1: Do you have some sort of typofixer there for "ID" -> "I'd"? I mean, "unique I'd"? < 1284581522 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I met a girl who said, among other things, that Calculus is easy < 1284581575 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R: the language of pirates. < 1284581575 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1284581597 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I accidentally pressed enter, there was supposed to be an or < 1284581648 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calculus is not exactly hard at the pre-university level... < 1284581777 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It would be nice if we could have an eInk-style display for reading books. Start negotiations with Pixel Qi. < 1284582156 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1284582327 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover < 1284582332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the consultant for slate < 1284582338 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1284582345 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only I knew what slate was/ < 1284582355 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean the rock? < 1284582377 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1284582386 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes. < 1284582396 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK! < 1284582458 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you want to consult me on? < 1284582537 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Everything! < 1284582551 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where to start? < 1284582591 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://imgur.com/zDMB4.png "TABLETFORMERS, laptops in disguise!" < 1284582601 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That bottom view is meant to be the button you press to unleash the keyboardism. < 1284582662 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, MY GOD < 1284582676 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to make it out of slate/ < 1284582733 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1284582754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/10.09.15, grep "Slate is basically". < 1284582757 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then read on. < 1284582828 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise do you like perfume < 1284582996 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, but will it be made of slate?? < 1284583006 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfume is usually like 95% alcohol - doesn't taste good at all < 1284583016 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes < 1284583022 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1284583035 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welsh or Chinese?? < 1284583090 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IWC is getting dark... < 1284583107 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I found Monday's xkcd mildly amusing. Discuss. < 1284583111 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1284583171 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/792/, Mr Lazy. < 1284583188 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are people who think that separation of church and state is a Nazi thing (Glen Urquhart, for instance) < 1284583192 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have dates < 1284583206 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to live on this planet anymore. < 1284583211 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1: there are people who fuck plush toys. both are equally ignorable < 1284583236 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: all i really see is "Omg google are awesome". < 1284583271 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an interesting interpretation. < 1284583274 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Said person is running for Congress < 1284583306 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This, funnily enough, reminds me of an xkcd < 1284583321 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure someone running for congress fucks plush toys. < 1284583357 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a Republican. < 1284583470 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, almost certainly. < 1284583473 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The next time your liberal friends ask you about the separation of church and state, ask them why they are Nazis," Urquhart says to the audience. < 1284583478 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what? < 1284583481 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brain. < 1284583483 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a plush toy running for congress < 1284583486 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I needed that for thinking. < 1284583488 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: *AAAAGGGH* < 1284583489 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who has secret relationships with humans < 1284583505 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was horribly unaware that *Thomas Jefferson* was a Nazi. < 1284583527 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you may know him for such things as writing the US Constitution and coining the phrase "seperation of church and state") < 1284583538 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1284583543 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Declaration of Independence, sorry. < 1284583545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he WAS. < 1284583548 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nazi nazi < 1284583552 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now get to consulting < 1284583557 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was merely one person involved in the Constitution. < 1284583559 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You: produce a mascot. < 1284583579 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise < 1284583582 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you ignore me < 1284583588 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well, he kept slaves... < 1284583596 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: A mascot for people who fuck plush toys? < 1284583601 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You live in NAZI COUNTRY is what this man is saying. < 1284583602 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Er. I suppose so. < 1284583616 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"alise: A mascot for people who fuck plush toys?" << looks like a headline < 1284583625 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may have thought the Nazis were German. But they are American! < 1284583635 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: http://www.griefcoaching.com/images/Brown%20w_tear2.jpg < 1284583649 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Or, slate. Your choice. < 1284583689 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: The above image is a mascot for both. < 1284583699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noted. < 1284583714 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slate: Affiliated with the North American Man/Plush Toy Love Association! < 1284583718 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAMPTLA < 1284583718 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1284583822 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My conclusion is that this man is a true American patriot, trying to give the Founding Fathers their true credit for Nazism, rather than letting the Germans steal the glory. < 1284583851 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/72364/Rat%20teddy%20bear-500x384.jpg TOO ... ADORABLE ... < 1284583869 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS SO ADORABLE < 1284583896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, he both owned slaves and (ironically) tried to make slavery one of the reasons to rebel in the Declaration of Independence. < 1284583925 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? Those damn liberals, trying to pry America from its roots! < 1284583946 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cognitive dissonance is truely one of the fundamental principles of the US. < 1284584111 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So wait, the British were denying Jefferson his right to slavery? < 1284584113 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or what? < 1284584165 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, he was a slaveowner opposed to slavery. < 1284584171 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your head asplode... Now. < 1284584190 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, that's going to take a while to clean up. < 1284584204 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now qualify that statement appropriately. < 1284584225 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He owned slaves. And wanted to end slavery. < 1284584337 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.o < 1284584379 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me there's something you're leaving out that makes this whole thing make sense. < 1284584391 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1284584407 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He both owned slaves and wanted to end slavery. *And that's it*. < 1284584572 0 :trinithis!~trinithis@99-7-56-119.lightspeed.davlca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1284584644 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bbl < 1284584654 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to conserve battery < 1284584668 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1284584708 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1284584881 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1284584902 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1284584960 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1284584995 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought of a new funge language < 1284585033 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Crossfunge" < 1284585046 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its kinda like befunge, but like a crossword puzzle < 1284585058 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instructions are chains of letter that form words < 1284585074 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :badass, i know < 1284585142 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1284585190 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... such a bad minesweeper score :( < 1284585194 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3:09 < 1284585202 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat required my attention < 1284585310 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What setting. < 1284585408 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :home < 1284585415 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on top of my keyboard < 1284585428 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1284585431 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expert < 1284585436 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basic, Medium < 1284585442 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally i do around 2:15 < 1284585443 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... ADVANCED < 1284585448 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1284585454 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has completed it twice.
< 1284585556 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trinithis, new here? < 1284585566 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1284585570 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first time in channel < 1284585582 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it when browsing a befunge implementation blog < 1284585604 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just finished writing my own Funge-98 interpreter < 1284585648 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat. < 1284585666 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/pkg-list.html#cat:compilers/interpreters < 1284585674 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1284585682 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/Fungi < 1284585686 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what i wanted :D < 1284585810 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of curiosity, how Mycology-compliant it is? < 1284585963 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all GOOD < 1284585978 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :implemented 10 fingerprints < 1284585983 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far < 1284586054 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1284586068 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for a Befunge person, maybe we should hype our usually-resident bot, fungot. < 1284586068 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, we wouldn't have bothered to pay attention to it < 1284586089 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, certainly don't pay any *attention* to what it says, but it's still written in Funge-98. < 1284586091 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1284586091 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1284586144 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1284586150 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1284586150 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1284586153 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot is written in befunge? < 1284586164 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like some death threats, fungot < 1284586165 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: your majesty! and queen. he and a friend left on a journey 10. all functions are down... got the terra arm and the crisis arm! found a dreamstone?! then i'll repair the masamune! < 1284586182 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hmm. Not nearly threatening enough. < 1284586182 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: to the northwest of this cape. he took back the medal from the frog king. and i'd like to see that mystical sword for myself! geez! < 1284586194 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, NOT GOOD ENOUGH < 1284586194 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the king awaits. you saved our queen? you see, the mammon machine are as follows. the y button displays the time to drop by!? all the young must migrate to other planets...to repeat the cycle... < 1284586201 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baah. < 1284586212 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He threatened to kill me last time he was on that setting. < 1284586225 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably a ploy of some sort. < 1284586250 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :False sense of security and all that. < 1284586300 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, DASTARDLY < 1284586300 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's a machine that looks like you! < 1284586309 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha! < 1284586318 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Among the other notable features are Brainfuck and Underload interpreters. < 1284586324 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!brain-fuckery < 1284586324 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain-fuckery < 1284586332 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (underloadsies)S < 1284586332 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :underloadsies < 1284586346 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's probably pretty much it. < 1284586350 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They plan to make an android double of me! < 1284586414 0 :trinithis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, DASTADLY < 1284586414 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trinithis: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1284586422 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1284586539 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.9/20100824153629] < 1284586568 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do IRC bots dream of electric sheep? < 1284586569 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: we are looking to achieve a shorter life span... lavos will rule the world in a mere door that keeps us bound, hand, foot...and tongue kid? ...oh, it's you, isn't this morbid? the great adventurer toma levine rests in a grave to the north. it's a great place for a picnic! heard that magus's statue before my shift. i hate! ayla not like... < 1284586646 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1284586646 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1284586659 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the full list of styles of nonsense it has. < 1284586685 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ss < 1284586685 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) < 1284586694 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, to be, or not to be? < 1284586694 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: con. signeor arme, arme with speed. the conclusion is, then thou, the greatest soldier of the world < 1284586800 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only assume that fungot thinks me the greatest soldier in the world/ < 1284586801 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: duk. no: i made vnto the noyse, when soone i heard, oh could i finde it still, when any virgin comes for fnord lest that for fear or such sinister practise she should be denied. < 1284586827 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what are you planning to do to a virgin?? < 1284586828 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: luc. i beleeue thee: i pr'ythee, fnord < 1284586842 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avoiding the question, eh? < 1284586885 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sooo, I do believe that fungot got fed with period orthography. < 1284586886 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: lieu. no, i am not partiall to infringe our fnord the fnord < 1284586900 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord? < 1284586914 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our fnord the fnord", heh. < 1284586932 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the placeholder for all frequency-less-than-a-threshold tokens. < 1284586937 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I agree, ten. < 1284586954 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1284586959 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: And clearly Shakespeare had a lot of low-frequency tokens. < 1284586978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the frequency of fnord in yonder Fungot? < 1284586988 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't do the filtering in all models, so some of them are non-fnordy. < 1284587001 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if I still have the data files. < 1284587024 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1284587039 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have, they're not in the pile where the rest of the stuff is. < 1284587069 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the language model dumping script might be able to tell me that, though. < 1284587083 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the root node will have plain unigram (read: token) counts. < 1284587184 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeexcept that I can't find my model-dumper. < 1284587261 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's in the twungot pile. < 1284587266 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this? < 1284587276 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You finished Op. 13? < 1284587279 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's data files, I assume. < 1284587280 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: corn. to this effect, before you answer warwick. his demand springs not from edwards well-meant honest loue, but in defence, be thus vpbrayded, chid, and rated by northumberland, did speak these words, these lookes, infuse new life in me < 1284587368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, loue and vpbraysion < 1284587389 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rated by Northumberland? < 1284587399 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll be alise up to his tricks again. < 1284587403 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It seems you may want to (somehow) normalise v/u. < 1284587433 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah < 1284587434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the text you have there seems to predate them being distinct graphemes. < 1284587440 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Mind you, I did by dropping one movement X-P < 1284587447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: CHEAT < 1284587456 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Your FACE is CHEAT. < 1284587465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES IT IS < 1284587468 0 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1284587469 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CARE NOT < 1284587478 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your MOTHER'S FACE is CHEAT. < 1284587500 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.07 % of tokens are UNK, if I read the output right. And that's probably not the only thing to normalize; there's a whole lot of punctuation that has ended up in the vocabulary. < 1284587545 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of cases with "foo" and "foo;" both in there, I guess the punctuation tokenifier didn't handle semicolons right. < 1284588056 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i53.tinypic.com/34zeic1.gif behold, the cat, mouse, ten thousand numbering system < 1284588067 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka katten/musen/tiotusen < 1284588108 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i51.tinypic.com/212adkp.gif <-- you can even use it for linear algebra < 1284588241 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neko/nezumi/man < 1284588248 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, insufficient pedantry. < 1284588255 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neko/nesùmi/mann < 1284588297 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :猫・鼠・万 < 1284588517 0 :CPressey!~CPressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1284588618 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPressey, why the caps? < 1284588718 0 :CPressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey wow < 1284588721 0 :CPressey!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cpressey < 1284588787 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, commentary of Japanese friend on your Facebook snippet: "3/4 baked". < 1284588841 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no opinion on the matter. < 1284588916 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: 3/4 baked? Whawhawhawha? < 1284588939 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He says that on second thought, you probably know more actual grammar than me. < 1284588943 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*him < 1284588950 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1284588964 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese not his native language or something? < 1284588972 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1284588980 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oookay... < 1284588998 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I've probably gone ahead and done something unidiomatic there. < 1284589009 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think he's bilingual and has spoken Japanese from a very young age. < 1284589033 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, he basically says that it's not wrong but unidiomatic. < 1284589046 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas I'm decent at Japanese, but absolutely not fluent. < 1284589067 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it becomes really obvious when I say something correct but unidiomatic. < 1284589232 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I greatly appreciate corrections. < 1284589363 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He said that "だそうだ" would be a better alternative from a spoken point of view. < 1284589451 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm. Makes sense. < 1284590389 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1284590477 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are you? < 1284590526 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ah, loue and vpbraysion xD < 1284590653 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://i53.tinypic.com/34zeic1.gif behold, the cat, mouse, ten thousand numbering system < 1284590653 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : aka katten/musen/tiotusen < 1284590653 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://i51.tinypic.com/212adkp.gif <-- you can even use it for linear algebra < 1284590658 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: are you married? < 1284590820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how's the pixel qi deal going < 1284590823 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cpressey < 1284590830 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually think you're boring :( < 1284590873 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a Pixel Qi IPS AMOLED display! < 1284590955 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, explain this number system. < 1284591018 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pixel Qi displays are so awesome; extremely lightweight, on the order of 5-10x less power than a regular display outside, transflective (this is an actual term) display so you can turn the backlight off and have it usable when there's lighting (http://pixelqi.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/outside_pq.25513142_large.jpg) unlike regular LCD displays < 1284591032 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the backlight off as readable as eInk < 1284591041 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can be used with capacitative touch < 1284591056 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaand they're planning wide angle screens in winter 2010-2011 < 1284591061 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also apparently a "slim version" whatever that is, in Q1 2011 < 1284591073 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What I am saying is: Slate totally has to use a Pixel Qi display. < 1284591089 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only tablet that's *actually suitable* outside, and as an eBook reader. < 1284591127 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Pixel Qi was founded by the people who made the OLPC's display.) < 1284591163 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, can you synthesise them from SLATE? < 1284591169 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes. < 1284591187 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides to look up the elemental composition of slate.
< 1284591220 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly quartz, muscovite or illite < 1284591249 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quartz is SiO2, so you can get the silicon necessary from that. < 1284591287 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But none of those contain carbon, so if you want any plastic components, you're screwed < 1284591303 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless there's a magic way of polymerising silicon compounds. < 1284591362 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there's a smaller graphite component. < 1284591376 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Fusion and fission. < 1284591388 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, rather impractical. < 1284591396 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Discuss how awesome Pixel Qi displays are. < 1284591406 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you asked *can* you synthesise them from slate. < 1284591412 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the answer is YES < 1284591438 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And thanks to homeopathic principles, even after fusion/fission it will retain the inherent essence of slate. < 1284591439 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can't fission Si into C, since Si is stable in all significant isotopes AFAIK. < 1284591445 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Awesome are. < 1284591453 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Therefore in Slate yes? < 1284591459 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or indeed, anything into H, which you *will* need. < 1284591476 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stable" just means "doesn't break unless you hit it", doesn't it? < 1284591491 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes, thus Slate in. < 1284591497 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it means that it's not going to decay no matter how long you wait. < 1284591516 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Good thing you're in charge of business deals! Get to it. < 1284591530 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bombarding Si with neutrons is almost certainly not going to give you C12. < 1284591576 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, there should be a bit of graphite around, so that's not the best example. < 1284591601 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illite contains iron, so you're fine there... < 1284591621 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1284591634 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi alise < 1284591645 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to not actually be boring. time will tell < 1284591647 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But none of them contain copper, which is necessary-ish. < 1284591654 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Application of sufficient energy to an atom will knock off particles. < 1284591676 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, you need a particle accelerator to do this reliably. < 1284591699 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in minuscule quantities. < 1284591733 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but large amounts of minuscule quantities are large quantities. < 1284591763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, large amounts of minuscule quantities are normal quantities. < 1284591771 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if copper is in any common decay sequences.
< 1284591795 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC it's mostly lead-207 (?) < 1284591831 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, mere application of neutrons will cause any atom to split. The fissile elements are merely those which sustain a chain reaction in doing so. < 1284591883 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: HOW IS THE BUSINESS DEAL GOING < 1284591883 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So: mix small pieces of slate into fuel rods, and then extract the carbon after using them! < 1284591891 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dump a large quantity of slate into a star scheduled to go supernova, then collect elements from the results? (Again according to the same homeopathic principles, everything that comes out will have the beneficial attributes of slate.) < 1284591918 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how about this: I'll stop being sensible about science and you can not be sensible about business! < 1284591927 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Not going to work. We want lighter elements, not heavier. < 1284591930 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE SHALL FEED OUR WORKERS WITH SLATE < 1284591956 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, our essential problem is fissioning atoms that are perfectly happy already < 1284591964 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: We have arranged for a homeopathic screen. < 1284591983 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Good, good. < 1284591991 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm sure there's quite a lot of different elements in the remains of a star, you know. Isn't that pretty much how everything is made? < 1284591993 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You can fiss any atom with neutron bombardment. It's just that only a small handful can do a chain reaction. < 1284591993 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Do you make more of it out of plastic to get a higher resolution? < 1284592008 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: And yes. As the fusion goes on longer, you get heavier and heavier elements. < 1284592011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: *fis < 1284592016 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, which elements are we even trying to fiss? < 1284592016 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1284592020 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FUSion" -> "fuse" < 1284592024 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FISsion" -> "fise" < 1284592025 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: *fise < 1284592026 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or get out of fising. < 1284592040 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: All necessary raw materials. From slate. < 1284592041 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was Cu... < 1284592043 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fission is the result of the action "fise". < 1284592054 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yeah, but which ones aren't present? < 1284592059 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cu was the big one. < 1284592084 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, we'll get Cu. Even if we have to generate nothing but hydrogen then make a star. < 1284592106 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't *have* significant quantities of hydrogen < 1284592134 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but we have significant quantities of slate, and can bombard it with neutrons until it damned well is hydrogen. < 1284592199 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is Cu even found in mineral form normally? < 1284592227 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it one of those ones that doesn't react enough to orify? < 1284592234 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, /me → sleep < 1284592257 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Don't care. We will perform inefficient fission.* < 1284592270 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1284592400 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: You're the Anticonsultant Evil-Double-Antiness "Auntie" Consultant Consultant Consultant for Slate. < 1284592482 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1284592508 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: meaning: i know nothing. NOTHING, I TELL YOU! < 1284592527 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever it is you are thinking, I DENY IT < 1284592621 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: wat < 1284593163 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: NOT TRUE < 1284593181 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1284593200 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i make a good anticonsultant, yes? < 1284593209 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:07:00 "FUSion" -> "fuse" < 1284593210 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:07:04 "FISsion" -> "fise" < 1284593210 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: umm... mu < 1284593220 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that makes little sense, doesn't it :D < 1284593222 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fisse, then < 1284593226 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the latter is a word. < 1284593227 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuse and fisse < 1284593235 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's no word for it, thus the need to derive one < 1284593237 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it fiss or fisse? < 1284593247 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been pondering why not < 1284593269 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you can just say "split"? < 1284593285 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also say "join" < 1284593352 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a joinion of eclectic styles < 1284593353 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess mainly it's that _neither_ fusion nor fission are from verbs of the form that english can borrow automatically (they have consonant stems) < 1284593375 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's only an accident that fuse got in < 1284593400 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this guess 1/4 baked) < 1284593472 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while vowel stems get -ation -> -ate or -ition -> -ite in a regular manner < 1284593499 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from latin verbs < 1284593567 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well regular except when they're not :) < 1284593584 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(audit rather than audite, e.g.) < 1284593664 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuse means to merge together, right? so why is the purpose of a fuse to come apart? < 1284593702 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just confused himself into a corner
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