< 1282435336 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm 15 now, huh. < 1282435409 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, oh? < 1282435417 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, much nostalgia yet? < 1282435426 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I guess that will take a few more years < 1282435500 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, when I was your age.... < 1282435509 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1282435526 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I've had nostalgia since I was, what, 10. < 1282435528 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_, wait, you are younger than me < 1282435533 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly for things I /wasn't alive for/. < 1282435537 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, AGEIST < 1282435540 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, but when Phantom_Hoover_'s older than you, he'll KICK YOUR ASS < 1282435541 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1282435558 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fires Vorpal off at 0.9c.
< 1282435568 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, hm... relativity right? < 1282435573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1282435577 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, when Phantom_Hoover_ grows up, he'll be older than you. < 1282435580 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then he'll kick your ass. < 1282435598 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'll need to catch him first. < 1282435604 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you forgot I age too, so this only works by relativity < 1282435612 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, hence the 0.9c. < 1282435627 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_, yes but I was writing my line while you said that < 1282435650 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't see it until after < 1282435667 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-137.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1282435671 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : alise, you forgot I age too, so this only works by relativity < 1282435673 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders about ways to get Vorpal to 0.9c.
< 1282435680 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say, I say, that's a joke, son. < 1282435704 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yes, his sense of humour goes through nonexistent and approaches existence from the other side. < 1282435707 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yes but #esoteric is all about taking jokes seriously, iirc ais said so < 1282435712 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he is an AUTHORITY < 1282435715 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on many things < 1282435725 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't meant as a defence of you, dude. < 1282435730 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: But only approaches. < 1282435734 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could but him in a giant cannon, I suppose. < 1282435750 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he might have no ass to kick when I slowed him down. < 1282435752 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, maybe, but I can use it as one < 1282435754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is a verb now < 1282435794 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could put him in a Buissard ramjet and fire it somewhere, but that'd take too long to slow down. < 1282435808 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't have a Buissard ramjet handy. < 1282435833 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does he actually have to get back? < 1282435840 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, obviously. < 1282435847 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How else will I kick his ass? < 1282435881 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1282435894 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kick a piece of air. One day, the particles will reach him, and kick his ass. < 1282435900 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, we can get rid of him! < 1282435910 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but I won't be older than him! < 1282435916 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the whole POINT. < 1282435929 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternative: hire Chuck Norris. Except chuck Norris can't be hired for money. < 1282435933 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1282435949 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chuck Norris is a fuckwit. < 1282435954 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, true < 1282435959 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chuck Norris roundhouse kicking you in the face would send you back in time. < 1282435964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seen that video where he talks about bible-based education shit? < 1282435965 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha. < 1282435977 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, rule 34 on Chuck Norris. < 1282435989 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1282435990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell no. < 1282435998 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Feynman diagram would be in the shape of a cross. < 1282436005 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm on second thought, no indeed < 1282436024 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then... rule 34 on Feynman diagrams and/or Feynman? < 1282436026 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augh < 1282436040 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd totally go gay for feynman < 1282436047 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1282436051 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-1&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=richard+feynman+porn&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= < 1282436056 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world is not evil enough to create it < 1282436071 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but you'd need Chuck Norris to roundhouse kick you in the face to send you back in time to see him. < 1282436102 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then he would have to roundhouse kick you in the face in the past, as well, to make your go forward/ < 1282436192 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At which point you'd look like you could be spread on toast. < 1282436199 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: dreamviews is so boring < 1282436208 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like ld4all, it's fun just separating the legitimate, useful content from the mystical crap < 1282436214 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta have some entertainment right? < 1282436223 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their website design used to be hilarious, you had to hover over an arrow picture to scroll < 1282436256 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ld4all.com/guide.html still does! but you can scroll manually it seems < 1282436264 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, hah < 1282436277 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't hovering, it's clicking and holding < 1282436287 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, is safe search off? < 1282436290 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks disturbingly new age... < 1282436291 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when googling that < 1282436319 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes < 1282436341 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: there's one or two new agey forums and some of the members are kooky like that but the actual site is useful :P < 1282436350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the forums are/were the biggest lucid dreaming forum when i knew them < 1282436358 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, it does have a tinge of that. < 1282436400 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1282436460 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I think I am a lambda I must sleep < 1282436694 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what technique do you use to LD? < 1282436699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've tried WILD < 1282436712 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my eyes flick around like REM, half-induced by me, and i start to get very relaxed, but i can never sustain it for long enough < 1282436718 0 :bsmntbombdood!~gavin@97-124-206-72.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282436845 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1282436886 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282436921 0 :derdon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1282436969 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blinls
< 1282436974 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blinls
< 1282437071 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is way too tired
< 1282437323 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1282437362 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282437889 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you know, a verified, optimising C compiler has been written in coq < 1282437897 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(similar performance to gcc3 -O1) < 1282437904 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiles to powerpc < 1282437908 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :written by the author of ocaml < 1282437927 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, now where's my instatiredbyegone machine? < 1282437946 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: quit complaining and go to fucking bed < 1282437946 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1282437996 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't go to bed early < 1282438074 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you can. < 1282438095 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: replaygain_track_gain = -17.67 dB < 1282438097 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: is that a record? :D < 1282438106 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same album, different track: +0.01 dB < 1282438128 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(replaygain_album_gain = -10.95 dB) < 1282438145 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :track peaks are all 0.9... or 1 :P < 1282438675 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1282439389 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMTEMENTALISM < 1282439400 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282439479 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: < 1282439480 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : staload "foo.sats" // foo.sats is loaded and then opened into the current namespace < 1282439480 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : staload F "foo.sats" // to use identifiers qualified as $F.bar < 1282439480 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : dynload "foo.dats" // loaded dynamically at run-time < 1282439834 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1282439975 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ijpeffwa.friendsofsmash.co.uk/ < 1282439976 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The International Jurassic Park Erotic Fan-Fiction Writer's Association < 1282441179 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can buy T-Rex and put him in your house! – < 1282441179 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : –...for PROFIT!" --qwantz page < 1282442787 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282442810 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I wrote Deadfish interpreter in TeX. < 1282442824 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Deadfish#TeX < 1282442902 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1282442942 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A true milestone for humanity. < 1282442992 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of implementations, someone still ought to write a http://esolangs.org/wiki/Redivider compiler < 1282442996 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonus points if you compile the regexp to an automaton < 1282443034 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "esolangs.org" domain does not keep the login cookies? < 1282443052 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the "official" one. < 1282443059 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The voxelperfect alias is just the server, methinks. < 1282443067 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Log in to esolangs.org and it'll work. < 1282443153 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It doesn't work when I try. When I do that, it redirects to the other domain and sets the cookie there anyways, so you cannot be logged in to "esolangs.org" domain unless you copy the cookie using a cookie management function. < 1282443182 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your browser is borken. < 1282443197 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just did it; not a single redirection. < 1282443332 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gawd the slowness pains < 1282443343 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ? < 1282443352 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: uploading my mail to the new server < 1282443363 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have TeX, try the Deadfish TeX interpreter, and figure out how it works (if you know how to use TeX, you will probably be able to figure it out easily) < 1282443382 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :progressing at about 1 Hz < 1282443382 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: why bother? < 1282443384 0 :cpressey!~catseye@adsl-99-94-153-147.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282443385 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just store it locally < 1282443387 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cpressey < 1282443395 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: then there's a disconinuity! < 1282443401 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: i just turned 11 1/2, do i get a present?!!! < 1282443402 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you should totally just store it locally. < 1282443422 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Context, as I have mentioned before, is for losers. < 1282443441 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: What signficance eleven point five? < 1282443469 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, short version: No. < 1282443487 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Actually, 15. < 1282443495 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, you know, same thing. < 1282443498 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Well, happy birthday then! < 1282443515 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now where's my present? < 1282443565 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Over there, in a box. < 1282443575 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god what have you done to this kitten < 1282443630 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you must know: mostly Ed Wood movies. < 1282443650 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, that can't explain the ... what is ... < 1282443692 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we make a INTERCAL and Brainfuck combined? < 1282443716 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1282443780 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeees < 1282443785 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why dilute intercal with something more sane? < 1282443801 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: do not say yes < 1282443804 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will only encourage him! < 1282443825 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE >[+>]- < 1282443828 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently my email upload should be done by 4PM tomorrow < 1282443902 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Not exactly what I meant, but I guess that is one way, to just put INTERCAL commands a brainfuck commands can be used together in one program < 1282443978 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you can also combine codes of many other program languages, too < 1282444105 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders whether the fundamental features of an irc.IRCClient are its user credentials, or the server it's connecting to
< 1282444140 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ? < 1282444152 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: stuff < 1282444179 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the fundamental feature is connecting to the IRC server? < 1282444186 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1282444207 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean what should be in the constructor vs arguments to connect() :P < 1282444222 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: What program language are you using? < 1282444253 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it makes sense this way: connect(host,port[,nick,user,password,real]) < 1282444254 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python, it sucks but makes this easy enough. < 1282444264 0 :Zuu!zuu@0x55529f1b.adsl.cybercity.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1282444265 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1282444265 0 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1282444266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so you think it should just be "client = IRCClient()", with no arguments? < 1282444267 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1282444291 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: O, you mean when creating the object. < 1282444302 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1282444317 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. client = IRCConnect(nick, user, pass, real); client.connect(host, port) < 1282444318 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs < 1282444320 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1282444326 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. client = IRCClient(nick, user, pass, real); client.connect(host, port) < 1282444326 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs < 1282444328 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you can have the connect() function return itself so that you can do: IRCClient().connect(host,port) < 1282444331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :client = IRCClient(host, port) < 1282444334 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :client.connect(nick, user, pass, real) < 1282444354 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, connect() returns the IRCClient object) < 1282444409 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1282444411 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you omit the nick,user,password,real, then it will not login, it will only connect and then you have to send the login command. < 1282444435 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually better perhaps is to put password at the end, so that it can be omitted even if you do put in nick,user,real? < 1282444437 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it'll always take those, because it'll handle communicating with a nickname service thingybob to kick off any clients that may be using the name < 1282444447 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since the rest of my code is too lazy to handle that) < 1282444481 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1282444658 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever built a telephone? < 1282444668 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1282444712 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disconnecting in a bit < 1282444747 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: now < 1282444760 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm? < 1282444763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :disconnect now < 1282444766 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a strange idea, which is adding a #catcode command into the C preprocessor < 1282444778 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not in 22min? < 1282444822 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :becaudt < 1282444930 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22min = 1hr < 1282444948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: wat < 1282444958 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a Canadian thing < 1282444968 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, this hour has 22 minutes? < 1282444973 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought this hour has 60 minutes? < 1282444974 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :D < 1282444984 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: timezone thing? < 1282444990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1282444991 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no < 1282444998 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh come on, elaborate < 1282445011 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google it < 1282445020 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Hour_Has_22_Minutes < 1282445023 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's no fun if I tell you >:D... aw < 1282445025 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1282445028 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i googled 22min = 1hr < 1282445030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but didn't get anything < 1282445036 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1282445063 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..? < 1282445066 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got stuff < 1282445084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1282445086 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Hour_Has_22_Minutes < 1282445102 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't see that >.>
< 1282445138 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was in my google results when google corrected 22min to 22 min < 1282445172 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my browser I configure it to put "&nfpr=1" in a ":g" Google search < 1282445188 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nfpr? < 1282445194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably "don't correct". < 1282445216 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what the letters stand for, but it fixes one of the problems with Google search. < 1282445242 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how hopelessly vague < 1282445281 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there are other parameters I can also add on to fix it more < 1282445315 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what other parameters there is? < 1282445397 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I only Googled after alise said he didn't get stuff, I think < 1282445404 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe my memory's mixed up < 1282445412 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1282445414 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least I'm human then < 1282445614 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What does nfpr=1 do? < 1282445665 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is Chrome so painful when it comes to Reddit < 1282445740 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It turns off autocorrect < 1282445827 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which is not neccessarily fixing. < 1282445884 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It fixes Google partially < 1282445894 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Some of us like autocorrect. < 1282445902 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calling it a "fix" is a bit presumptious... < 1282445925 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it still offer fixes? < 1282445937 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I despise the "oh, here's what you meant to search for" < 1282445970 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dislike it, but *eh* < 1282445974 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people don't :P < 1282445977 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/aceecas-pda32-keeps-the-palmos-dream-alive/ people still release palmos devices! < 1282446029 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever played ZZT game or made anything with ZZT? How much do you know about internal functioning of ZZT? < 1282446046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :None, no, nothing. < 1282446062 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1min < 1282446106 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ZZT? < 1282446124 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The source-codes of ZZT has been apparently lost, that is why I am rewriting a reimplementation of ZZT in Enhanced CWEB and with SDL. < 1282446139 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZZT < 1282446143 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lost? oh noes :( < 1282446186 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :myndzi < 1282446204 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There are other clones of ZZT as well, but mine is different than the other clones, it is intended to be closer to the original, as well as being a full document about everything in ZZT. < 1282446206 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1282446249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZZT is still for sale through mail order, according to Sweeney in a Gamasutra interview[3]. < 1282446269 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the source code (?) < 1282446275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, presumably < 1282446283 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes, it is, although they offer the registered versions for download as well, at no cost. < 1282446344 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1282446354 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: And apparently they lost the source-codes. It was originally written in Turbo Pascal. Mine is C. But I try to make it accurate as possible, I even downloaded a Turbo Pascal reference manual for this purpose! < 1282446375 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1282446407 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: What are you refering to? < 1282446413 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why get a turbo pascal manual? < 1282446469 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For maximum accuracy. < 1282446478 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :accuracy to what/ < 1282446480 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what? < 1282446485 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have the source how can that help < 1282446495 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for writing the pascall decompiler, of course < 1282446507 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1282446639 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just to get in the right mood and mindset < 1282446742 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: actually, I think I'll include all the arguments in the constructor < 1282446766 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :client = IRCClient('irc.freenode.net', 6667, 'botte', 'botte', 'botte') < 1282446768 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :client.connect() < 1282446823 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyy doesn't irc ghost automatically < 1282447122 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-137.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1282447204 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also entered strange commands into ZZT to see what happens, and then think of how it was programmed to make it to do that, I also entered strange data into the world files that it will load, and I made memory dumps of ZZT. < 1282447256 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also require the endianness to be correct. (SDL provides macros to check the endianness at compile time, so I can make it refuse to compile on big-endian computers) < 1282447301 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not writing a Pascal decompiler, and I don't need to decompile anything. < 1282447304 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1282447325 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now do you understand? < 1282447345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1282447351 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still can't figure out why you downloaded a pascal manual < 1282447396 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither, I don't think this explains how a pascal manual would be relevant < 1282447965 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can see, when you can see the program. < 1282448077 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Maybe you could tell us. < 1282448463 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the thing you connect to with a socket -- (host,port) -- really (host,port) or (hostname,port)? < 1282448465 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unabbreviated, I mean < 1282448518 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I mean put the domain name or IP address < 1282448530 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1282448535 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be host then < 1282448538 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an ip isn't a hostname < 1282448545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, i just realised how awesome an irc library could be with continuations < 1282448546 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do < 1282448562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :info = whois("somebody"); print(info.channels); < 1282448563 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1282448571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and before the server returns the whois request < 1282448575 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the whois call would do is continue the server loop < 1282448579 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so any incoming messages get handled < 1282448586 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then when the whois reply returns, it calls the continuation it saved < 1282448598 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, any errors could be raised as exceptions in that continuation < 1282448608 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1282448766 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you know if there's a name for the USER/(PASS)/NICK combination sent by the client? < 1282448768 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prelude? login? < 1282449043 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :handshake? < 1282449230 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: but the server has no part in it < 1282449258 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I guess it is the login sequence? < 1282449263 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it has a name < 1282449389 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I write CZZT, then maybe Tim Sweeney should sell this book together in the same mail order? < 1282449669 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt he will < 1282449768 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I want to send a copy of the book (and DVD) to him anyways < 1282449938 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why dvd? < 1282449969 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DVD contain source-codes, executables, and DVI file for printing another copy < 1282450029 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could fit that on a cd. < 1282450062 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use a CD. But blank DVDs are less expensive than blank CDs in Canada, due to music tax. It is stupid law, but it is the law anyways. < 1282450071 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you are not using the CDs for music. < 1282450072 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how odd. < 1282450137 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: omghaahhahaohwow < 1282451114 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1282451168 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: heard of the university copyright tariff proposal? < 1282451189 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5250/125/ < 1282451257 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you recv() from a socket and an \r\n is reached, you may still get stuff after that, right? < 1282451268 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: I have not heard of it before. < 1282451404 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's accepted, I will definitely go out of my way to have my uni not subscribe < 1282451441 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: uw student? < 1282451694 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this tariff, bill C-32 and ACTA, grim future ahead if they pass < 1282452064 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides /not/ to handle servers that send \r one send, then \n the very next message
< 1282452067 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be ludicrous. < 1282452075 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION changes his mind
< 1282452087 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1282452091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python needs a multi_split :P < 1282452268 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multi_split? < 1282452323 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: 'foo'.split_by_either(['\r', '\n']) < 1282452338 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'foobar'.split_by_either(['o', 'a']) -> ['f', '', 'b', 'r'] < 1282452350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like using re.split < 1282452352 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not so heavyweight < 1282452368 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe the law should be this: require businesses that use TPMs to include a prominent warning on their packaging < 1282452392 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And in addition, don't have any anti-circumvention laws) < 1282452444 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck TPMs < 1282452460 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC my computer has one but it's turned off < 1282452513 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Then disconnect the TPM hardware < 1282452519 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bill is good on the whole but the TPM stuff invalidates everything other freedom the bill offers < 1282452527 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*every < 1282452562 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It's a laptop; too much work. Shutting it off at the bios is fine < 1282452575 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They need to add a warning label on all DRM products. There are warning labels required for many other things too < 1282452580 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: O, it is a laptop. < 1282452605 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: yes, uw student. Also member of the PPCA for what it's worth < 1282452660 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you should also join WSIC, http://wsic.uwaterloo.ca/ < 1282452804 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: I will check it out when I arrive < 1282452810 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a student there? < 1282452852 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1282452869 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what program/term? < 1282452904 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chem eng/2B < 1282452932 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have idea to built new computer, with new hardware and software, all GNU GPL (and other Free software), the hardware design has a few goals, one is that it is not too difficult to understand how it works (someone can open it and look), another goal is for the hardware design to prevent "digital locks" from working. < 1282452950 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I can still see one hole in it, the "random number generator" hole, and I am unsure how to correct this. < 1282453031 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My initial idea is to use ARM11 and DSPs, but later versions might be designed to use MMIX instead (with a "pre-initialization" mode). < 1282453060 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any opinions about this? < 1282453095 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why RNG would be a hole < 1282453114 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides to submit http://merd.sourceforge.net/ to reddit, but cannot think of a title
< 1282453137 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe "merd language = dynamic expressivity + static type checks" < 1282453580 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RNG can be a hole in some cases, especially when companies can provide external hardware that is required to load a game onto a computer. < 1282453604 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even with network access, this can sometimes be a problem. < 1282453627 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can use trademarks to enforce some rules. But trademarks do not change a hardware design. < 1282453666 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You are not allowed to advertise your products as being compatible with this computer if you do not follow these rules) < 1282453729 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can rng be a hole < 1282454018 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: O, you still don't know? < 1282454071 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A game might have a random number generator, but then it uses the same sequence of random numbers each time, and ruins the game! < 1282454151 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1282454154 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that a hole < 1282454344 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the hardware is designed to prevent digital locks, but it isn't effective if a software company can just design their software so that it ruins the game if you try to mirror the program in hardware..... < 1282454538 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1282454540 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1282454749 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so, we come swiftly to a conclusion: allow me to introduce the Natty Narwhal, our mascot for development work that we expect to deliver as Ubuntu 11.04. < 1282455418 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1282455434 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed in a second < 1282455522 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other ideas include: < 1282455574 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardware-level debug chains, where the software being debugged cannot know it is being debugged, that the debugger can lie to the software about clock speed, time of day, IP address, and so on < 1282455587 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That replacing system software requires opening up the box and changing some jumper switches < 1282455627 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That it includes a comprehensive manual describing everything about the computer and how to program it < 1282455647 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That there are simple hardware interfaces to connect to external devices, such as game controllers < 1282455669 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That it has a built-in Forth and BASIC interpreter < 1282455758 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That it has separate processors for main CPU and for video DSP and for audio DSP, all of which are reprogrammable (except for NMIs) < 1282455770 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And more. < 1282456140 0 :cal153!~cal@c-24-4-207-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282456151 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1282456211 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1282456288 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1282456291 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1282456313 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1282456371 0 :comex!comex@c-98-210-154-193.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282457301 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-137.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1282457458 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1282460091 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you make arrows drunk with blood? < 1282460501 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1282460664 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1282461283 0 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-24-19-39-178.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282461305 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bir_Tawil This is terra nullius; anyone want to start a country? < 1282461394 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, that article says it's under Egyptian control < 1282461417 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, I see < 1282461419 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1282461421 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it says it was in 1902. < 1282461428 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds awesome < 1282461438 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is currently claimed by absolutely no state. < 1282461448 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should mention this in #csc < 1282461452 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :csc? < 1282461458 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UW computer science club < 1282461468 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same sort of people generally as here < 1282461469 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And under very well-defined international law, it would be perfectly valid for one to set up a country there. < 1282461476 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except they'd actually go there and start a country < 1282461495 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had enough money to make a reasonable investment into it, I'd probably do so. < 1282461508 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1282461512 0 :iamcal!~cal@c-24-4-207-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282461520 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you should tell Julian Assange < 1282461541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ... My *God*. < 1282461566 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, unfortunately, he would instantly have war declared upon him. < 1282461598 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1282461676 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the USA has actually signed the Montevideo Convention < 1282461707 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't stop them from taking some actions, but they'll do those anywhere < 1282461750 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow, I doubt they care. < 1282461769 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they wouldn't care about it in Sweden either < 1282461784 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the USA firmly believes in its right to kill other people < 1282461805 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The USA firmly believes in its right to kill *everyone*. < 1282461812 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not USAians < 1282461818 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes USAians. < 1282461837 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I suppose < 1282461841 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that has to be approved < 1282461848 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and go through normal courts, etc. < 1282461857 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US military has recently had shoot-to-kill orders against US citizens. < 1282461863 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1282461865 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1282461867 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1282461868 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was illegal < 1282461898 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should try to sneak a right to life into the constitution and have the gop support it because they think it will ban abortion < 1282461935 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anwar al-Awlaki (born in Las Cruces, New Mexico) has standing shoot-to-kill orders against him. < 1282461946 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Said orders from President Obama. < 1282461981 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1282461995 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, does the restriction against killing citizens only apply on US soil? < 1282462023 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't matter; it's still blatantly illegal. You see, the US constitution requires due process. < 1282462103 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's only for crimes < 1282462111 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the US can in theory still kill someone arbitrarily < 1282462156 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under this crazy-ass loose interpretation of the US constitution, it can. < 1282462203 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you look at what it actually says, the US hardly has the authority to pick its nose. < 1282462224 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that anyone actually *follows* what it says, but hey.) < 1282462247 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah, I love the gop < 1282462252 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let's uphold the US Constitution" < 1282462261 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*blatatanly violates it* < 1282462265 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you disagree? you're unamerican!" < 1282462274 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." < 1282462299 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. The US is not delegated the power to kill people at random. Clearly, the US does not have it. < 1282462359 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly that falls within powers necessary for the general well-being < 1282462377 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... honestly, the worst part of living in Canada is that we're next to you guys :( < 1282462449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No state has the right to intervene in the internal or external affairs of another." -- Montevideo Convention. < 1282462457 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one clause the US ignores so damned much... < 1282462481 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it actually law in the USA < 1282462482 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1282462512 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it just signed? < 1282462585 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was ratified. < 1282462606 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone tried to use it to block government actions? < 1282462622 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does your dumb concept of standing prevent it? < 1282462644 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Waitwaitwait*what*? < 1282462657 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"American law is that international accords become part of the body of U.S. federal law. As a result, Congress can modify or repeal treaties by subsequent legislative action, even if this amounts to a violation of the treaty under international law." < 1282462669 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Congress can repeal treaties with a simple majority*?!? < 1282462671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck? < 1282462677 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that actually makes sense < 1282462689 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is probably the case in most nations < 1282462710 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1282462737 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In most nations, it is effectively a *contract* signed with other nations. < 1282462778 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yeah < 1282462781 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right < 1282462805 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they shoudl ratify the Vienna Convention < 1282462836 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although does Congress have power to limit itself? < 1282462845 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without a constitutional amendment < 1282462872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Congress has the power to define its own rules of proceeding. < 1282462945 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1282462992 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that include by enacting provisions which limit its further powers? < 1282462997 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Later < 1282463060 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member." < 1282463090 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it would probably have to be part of its rules of proceedings, *yes* it could in fact limit itself permanently. < 1282463113 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that should be construed as saying that an enactment can partially or permanently limit its powers, unless that would interfere with the execution of the Constitution < 1282463265 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Canada, our chambers are constitutionally required to act by simple majority (yes, really); it's free to internally limit its procedures, but if it was tried to be permanent, it would probably be deemed unconstitutional under the principle that no Parliament should be able to limit a future one. < 1282463282 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except by enactment, of course, but those are more directly subject to the constitution) < 1282463301 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is nothing in the US constitution that requires that Congress' laws be made by majority. < 1282463317 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would, in fact, be *perfectly* valid for Congress to cease making laws forever. < 1282463347 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or delegate its law-making powers to the President. Forever. < 1282463393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*However*, it would still be required to meet. < 1282463403 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1282463415 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would probably be interpreted as legal by the courts too < 1282463419 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1282463473 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the other safeguard here... a future Parliament effectively /cannot/ be hamstrung by the current one because the ultimate decision authority in affairs regarding the chambers is, in fact, the chambers themselves < 1282463575 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There would be one way to make that complete lock-down stop. An amendment. < 1282463575 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1282463602 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although in theory the courts could legally intervene if they determined that the constitution was being directly undermined by the < 1282463615 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*by the Parliament. They would be exceedingly loath to do so < 1282463631 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, an amendment could still be made if the *entire* US legal system had stopped. < 1282463634 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282463665 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US's constitution explicitly allows for constitutional conventions to make amendments. < 1282463673 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's a good thing < 1282463685 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should always be an emergency button < 1282463720 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ours is two people!) < 1282463778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yours is the remains of monarchy. < 1282463797 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1282463799 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(quite unlike the UK's, which is literally a fully-functioning monarchy that refuses to exercise its power.) < 1282463829 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1282463863 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :our monarchy still has similar powers to the UK's < 1282463880 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your monarchy has enumerated powers. < 1282463885 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UK's has enumerated restrictions. < 1282463895 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1282463909 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most decisions made by the government are made through the monarchy < 1282463948 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other news, I'm reading Robert's Rules < 1282463952 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I should have done long ago < 1282463993 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Canada, this is *in name*. < 1282463999 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the UK, this is *in fact*. < 1282463999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1282464000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1282464027 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Queen *literally* just delegates her powers. < 1282464048 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1282464053 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good system, really < 1282464089 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Among other things, she merely delegates her power to negotiate and ratify treaties. < 1282464096 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or to command the military. < 1282464101 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or issue passports. < 1282464108 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here, actually < 1282464113 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those powers fit entirely within prerogative < 1282464114 0 :cheater99!~cheater@p54972905.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282464142 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with calling an election. If QE2 wanted, she could decide that we were having an election and we'd have one. < 1282464177 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And declare war on fruit? < 1282464186 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1282464198 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although maybe declarations of war are subject to Parliament < 1282464200 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure there < 1282464247 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're still considered a prerogative though, just one with its application restricted by an Act) < 1282464323 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I don't see anything off-hand < 1282464330 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess war is still wholly a prerogative < 1282464424 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. Okay, guess it is pretty similar in Canada. < 1282464443 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Except* that in the UK, she also acts as your ambassador to God. < 1282464446 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1282464448 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1282464478 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, anything that isn't explicitly covered by an Act is the same as in the UK, by tradition < 1282464478 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monarchy is confusing. < 1282464491 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not monarchy itself, it's damend uncodified law < 1282464496 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, true. < 1282464502 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*damned < 1282464507 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less so than having a constitution that is completely and utterly ignored, though. < 1282464511 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1282464518 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then vehemently defended by the same people < 1282464541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in uncodified law, things are actually functioning according to what has been made law. < 1282464561 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, one of the benefits of uncodified law is that it can be flexible < 1282464671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes. Same damned legal system that served King Ælfrǣd the Great... < 1282464740 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(styled REX SAXONUM) < 1282464748 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1282464802 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in another 1100 years, it will work < 1282464819 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, that's not even the first monarch. Just the first King of the English. < 1282464856 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although most people consider it to have really started with the Magna Carta < 1282464879 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that limited the monarch's powers < 1282464896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I consider it the same legal system before that. The Magna Carta is merely the first one to make it not total monarchy. < 1282464946 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Actually, no. < 1282464953 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Charter of Liberties predates it. < 1282464966 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose < 1282464993 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much-ignored, but *that* was the first thing to limit the King's powers. < 1282465378 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man. The World Passport. < 1282465406 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Published based on the assertion that this means you can just freely travel between countries: Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country. < 1282465423 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; signed by every UN member) < 1282465474 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1282465489 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back when our place (Finland) was independizing (December 1917), there was some debate whether to be a republic or a monarchy. They chose a republic at first, but after that civil war thing there was a bit of power-shifting in the Parliament, and they decided they wanted a king after all; they elected some prince out of Germany as the king. Real soon after that the last German emperor abdicated, and our brand-new king renounced the throne as well. < 1282465543 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Governmental archives reveal that the monarchical designation of the king was intended, at least tentatively, to be 'Charles I, King of Finland and Karelia, Duke of Åland, Grand Prince of Lapland, Lord of Kaleva and the North'." I don't know, "Lord of -- the North" sounds a little bit grandiose. < 1282465758 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1282465848 0 :cheater99!~cheater@p54972905.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282465882 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try "William II & III and Mary II, King and Queen of England, Scotland, France and Ireland, Defenders of the Faith." for grandiose confusion. < 1282465892 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, that is a single title) < 1282465950 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Kaleva and North in that title are referring to the Kalevala mythology there, so it's a bit faith-based; just a different one. < 1282465971 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you noticed "France" in there. < 1282465984 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They claimed *France*. < 1282465986 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I completely glossed over it. Heh. < 1282465999 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "King and Queen". < 1282466009 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both reigning. < 1282466014 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simultaneously. < 1282466027 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have this ambiguous-gender friend too... < 1282466034 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1282466040 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't ambiguous-gender. < 1282466050 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The King/Queen regnant was two people. < 1282466061 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms
< 1282466066 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but legally one person? < 1282466080 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Legally two people, but one monarch. < 1282466110 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :owowoowoww < 1282466212 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't sound too strange, but admittedly what I know of monarchies mostly comes from reading through the fantasy book aisle of the library at our behind-the-ass-end-of-nowhere summer cottage "city". < 1282466220 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that they *were* married, so in a *sense* they were one entity. < 1282466234 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but what happens if they disagree about something? < 1282466237 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coregency has quite a lot of examples, still. < 1282466253 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: *boom* < 1282466254 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or worse, get a divorce < 1282466266 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that when it was illegal? < 1282466289 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's after the formation of the Church of England for the sake of making divorce legal. < 1282466300 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Well, they're still King/Queen regnant. < 1282466339 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Andorra's whole monarchy setup confuses me. < 1282466350 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(segue!) < 1282466390 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of their two co-Princes is elected. Just not in Andorra. < 1282466404 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Whitlam_Ministry < 1282466405 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1282466436 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the duly elected President of France. < 1282466451 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1282466451 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with the Bishop of Urgell, in Spain. < 1282466454 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just read about that < 1282466457 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... What the hell? < 1282466462 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye < 1282466486 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The French elect a Prince of Andorra. < 1282466490 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. < 1282466562 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bishop of Urgell sounds equally random, even if it's not an elected position. (I profess to complete ignorance on how they select bishops.) < 1282466568 0 :distant_figure!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1282466576 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Andorra was ceded to the bishop of Urgell by the count Ermengol IV of Urgell in the twelfth century. There is still a bishop of Urgell, who since 2003 has been Joan Enric Vives Sicília. This role carries with it the position of joint head of state of Andorra." < 1282466602 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC bishops are appointed < 1282466699 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, looking at the list -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Co-Princes_of_Andorra -- it seems that having a bishop there is a lot stabler than "whoever's the top dog at France", given how much more complicated the right column looks. < 1282466707 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1282466761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It's a somewhat complicated procedure, it seems. < 1282466783 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Among other things, it depends on which sub-church of the Roman Catholic Church is involved. < 1282466825 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds about right < 1282466832 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :canon law is ridiculous < 1282466845 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell, it used to be a separate degree < 1282466850 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2000 year old legal institutions tend to be. < 1282466854 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(before it became pointless) < 1282466872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all 1 of them) < 1282466889 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: there were 10 :P < 1282467107 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1282467113 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1282467157 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-137.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1282467273 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit the motion to reconsider is confusing < 1282467313 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should sleep
< 1282467321 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today, I learned that it's not a good idea to attach a screen session to itself. < 1282467339 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate books with busted spines :( < 1282468038 0 :distant_figure!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1282468927 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@92.233.174.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282469108 0 :nooga!~nooga@77-45-52-193.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1282470067 0 :distant_1igure!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1282470067 0 :distant_1igure!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1282470690 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Seeeeeya < 1282471372 0 :dbc!~daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282474041 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1282474071 0 :comex!comex@c-98-210-154-193.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282474196 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl29-2-0-cust326.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282474354 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1282476599 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282476905 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ_Vampire_Hunter has possibly the best plot synopsis I have ever seen on Wikipedia. < 1282476917 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Jesus fights with mixed martial arts skills and uses his carpentry skills to create weapons with which to slay vampires." < 1282479944 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like an incredibly pointless movie < 1282480505 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1282480771 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_, I wonder how that movie compares to plan 9... in quality < 1282480801 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's deliberately ridiculous. No, I know it's deliberately ridiculous. < 1282480808 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm okay < 1282481937 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: New quit message. Entering 2006 in style. < 1282483568 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1282484516 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1282484530 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1282485233 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/OLPC-Active_Antenna.jpg I love the way that it still has the green squiggle Word grammar check puts in on "for". < 1282485493 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282486087 0 :nooga!~nooga@86-63-119-166.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1282486372 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282486530 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1282487015 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's three recaptcha words I've gotten recently: http://zem.fi/~fis/faircaptcha.png -- the first one is in the Cyrillic alphabet, the second I have no clue about, and the third seems to have two levels of superscripts. Sometimes they might be asking a bit much. < 1282487130 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second looks to be in some Asian script. < 1282487163 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :каковую I reasonably could have written in, and perhaps hunted the second one down with some work, but I don't really know how they'd have wanted me to input the third one. MathML? TeX math notation? < 1282487220 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reCAPTCHA uses, at least in part, words that it's not sure about, doesn't it? < 1282487300 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, IIRC one of the words it knows, the other it's trying to have you OCR for it. < 1282487354 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess would be that those three would be those that it doesn't know, but I still wouldn't have felt comfortable entering any sort of garbage. < 1282487699 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for the 3rd you could have used some sort of flat format/ < 1282487719 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :K[X^p^m+1]. < 1282487778 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally I'd parse that as (X^(p^m))+1 and not X^(p^(m+1)) like it is. < 1282488324 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, true. < 1282488871 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't really get today's SMBC
< 1282488888 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is primarily due to not knowing what a resonant frequency is. < 1282489044 0 :cheater99!~cheater@p5B2174FD.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282490183 0 :h0ho!~h0ho@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282490317 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282490535 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282490838 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282491000 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1282491514 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1282491882 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1282491906 0 :h0ho!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1282492304 0 :zeotrope!~vib@bas3-kitchener06-1096650208.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1282492438 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1282492457 0 :MizardX!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1282492709 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1282492793 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282492835 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1282492917 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1282493095 0 :zeotrope!~vib@bas3-kitchener06-1096752322.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1282493471 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1282493855 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1282493974 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282494272 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282494483 0 :nooga!~nooga@86-63-109-48.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1282497107 0 :Peping!~Peping110@fw3.khfree.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282497174 0 :Peping!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. I just made an interpreter for Braincopter. The problem is I'm too busy to make an IDE for it, and writing a program using just GIMP or MS Paint is too slow and difficult. Who's up for making an IDE? :) < 1282497236 0 :Peping!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually I really need an IDE. Today's I and my gf have an anniversary and I though it would be nice to put some nice code into a nice picture < 1282497376 0 :Peping!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway.. is anybody even listening? Or everybody is on bounce? < 1282497574 0 :cheater99!~cheater@p5B2174FD.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282497591 0 :Peping!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1282497913 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ello. < 1282497965 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC channels are never near as full as they seem to be. Luckily, as long as nobody else says much, what you said will be the first thing people see when they return. < 1282498100 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact no one had spoken in 3 hours might also be a _teeny_ hint < 1282498308 0 :MizardX-!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1282498474 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1282498486 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1282499303 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!~phantomho@92.233.174.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282500487 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1282500531 0 :cheater99!~cheater@p5B2174FD.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282500910 0 :Quadrescence!~Quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence JOIN :#esoteric < 1282502941 0 :Peping!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1282503501 0 :alise!~alise@91.105.78.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282503601 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:15:05 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bir_Tawil This is terra nullius; anyone want to start a country? < 1282503602 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too hot < 1282503619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:18:40 pikhq: you should tell Julian Assange < 1282503619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:19:01 coppro: ... My *God*. < 1282503619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:19:26 Though, unfortunately, he would instantly have war declared upon him. < 1282503625 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonono < 1282503627 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think sealand < 1282503631 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put a data centre there < 1282503638 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :host everything that isn't child porn < 1282503672 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:25:35 Anwar al-Awlaki (born in Las Cruces, New Mexico) has standing shoot-to-kill orders against him. < 1282503672 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:25:46 Said orders from President Obama. < 1282503672 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay hopey change < 1282503766 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Hooray! < 1282503837 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:40:05 they shoudl ratify the Vienna Convention < 1282503839 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've signed < 1282503871 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm so glad the war in Iraq is over! I'm so glad drug laws have been made more reasonable! I'm so glad the economy is back on its feet! < 1282503882 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a wonderful thing, to live in America under Obama! < 1282503912 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: And the balanced budget! Ooooh, and Gitmo! < 1282503921 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a wonderful thing, to live in America under Obama! < 1282503932 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot Gitmo! < 1282503939 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aah, it's so nice that thing closed down. < 1282503944 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/ < 1282503953 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, re servers in Bir Tawil. < 1282503954 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1282503973 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: You'd have to get a connection, yes. < 1282503985 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the tier-1 providers have rules, yes. < 1282503987 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just host them in one of the Terra Nullii in Antarctica; you wouldn't need to bother with cooling. < 1282503989 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd rather risk America under Palin? < 1282503989 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such is life. < 1282503993 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: ha < 1282504003 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Oh, yes, I forgot, the American constitution specifies that there may only be two parties. < 1282504008 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No. I WANT KUCINICH. < 1282504009 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Palin ran for president, not John McCain. < 1282504011 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's near enough Argentina that you could run a cable there. < 1282504013 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All these things are true. < 1282504015 0 :cheater99!~cheater@p5B2174FD.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282504023 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said "risk" < 1282504030 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, if something happened to McCain < 1282504043 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because it's impossible to elect someone else entirely. < 1282504065 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I said, the glorious Constitution provides for two parties: the Republicans, and the Almost Republicans. < 1282504070 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is in the US. < 1282504074 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the time of the general election, it would be close enough to impossible < 1282504090 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and that of course means that now, it is bad and wrong to complain. < 1282504108 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's not. < 1282504108 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you should accept what your horrific political climate decides to stick in your ass, and you should like it. < 1282504116 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God bless America. < 1282504143 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: One of the major misconceptions of American politics is that if you vote for !Republican || !Democrat then you have voted for RAPING BABIES WITH NUCLEAR MISSILES AND MACES < 1282504152 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: *&& < 1282504159 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: running a cable to argentina wouldn't help < 1282504170 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: because you'd need to get net-connected in argentina < 1282504172 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because somehow, voting for a third party *guarantees that evil will win*. < 1282504180 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think all the providers require you obey the law of your country < 1282504181 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1282504182 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even tier-1s < 1282504195 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, the fact is that you'd break argentinian law < 1282504210 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: could you get connected to a tier-1 without going through another country, do you think? < 1282504216 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and without being bound by anyone else's laws < 1282504264 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tap into an undersea cable? < 1282504275 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: You'd set up a private corporation to be connected to said tier-1. < 1282504278 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: That doesn't sound awfully legal. < 1282504296 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, you'd have to be *involved* with another nation to be connected. < 1282504298 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: A private corporation in the Fair Dictatorial Democracy of Data Haven, yes. < 1282504300 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm. < 1282504305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did Sealand do it? < 1282504344 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could host on the Moon, so everyone would be able to connect for half the month. < 1282504359 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They purchased a wireless link through the UK. < 1282504371 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And ... how did that let them host illegal shit, again? < 1282504376 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With an antenna and some tracking stuff. < 1282504387 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: Or a REALLY POWERFUL LASER. < 1282504391 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It was perfectly legal for the server to be hosting stuff where they operated. < 1282504395 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-15-66.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282504396 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lightspeed Communications, Inc. < 1282504398 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that would be AWESOME < 1282504411 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But how would they transmit the material to anyone else legally? < 1282504412 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh, I can't download Star Trek; the laser's down." < 1282504420 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: What's actually on the pipes is not regulated. < 1282504431 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh. Why didn't you tell me? < 1282504435 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH it would be unusable on a cloudy day if the laser was optical. < 1282504443 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Are you just saying that no country would want to do business with such a happy-go-lucky country? < 1282504458 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: Okay: MICROWAVES < 1282504462 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Not necessarily, actually... < 1282504462 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hot Hot Communications, Inc. < 1282504467 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, LESS AWESOME < 1282504468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: See, this is PRACTICAL! < 1282504488 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, do we go for Africa or Antarctica? < 1282504507 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Africa. < 1282504511 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antarctica conditions are shitty. < 1282504516 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Africa pros: near civilisation; you can use solar. < 1282504520 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No technician is going to wear those clothes. < 1282504529 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TO EGYPT! < 1282504535 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR THE MOON! < 1282504542 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: I wonder what the nearest first-world country is to the area. < 1282504542 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prefers the moon.
< 1282504553 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt Egypt has a fast internet link. < 1282504573 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for the Moon you're going to have pretty high latency. < 1282504589 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, pikhq! Inject some non-Moon-related facts into this discussion. < 1282504621 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Your major problem here is that Bir Tawil is landlocked. < 1282504632 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why's that a problem? < 1282504641 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pirates won't be able to dock? < 1282504643 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, you'd have to go through Egypt or Sudan... < 1282504651 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Good point. < 1282504656 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the friendliest countries. < 1282504659 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than, say, having a link to Europe. < 1282504664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the countries with the fastest interweb. < 1282504666 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bounce the signal off the MOON! < 1282504678 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But is Antarctica really practical? < 1282504683 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Northern Africa. Linking to Europe is *practical*.) < 1282504685 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, those conditions are *shitty*. < 1282504691 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd need a /heated/ data centre! < 1282504693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Not especially. < 1282504717 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Servers <=> heating, surely? < 1282504717 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe *right* on a coast. < 1282504733 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: They probably wouldn't RUN on speeds that slow. < 1282504740 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: If you can link to Argentina, then yeah, there's a place right on the coast. < 1282504741 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1282504744 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, speeds? < 1282504749 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1282504754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: Erm. Temperatures. < 1282504756 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Actually. Servers run *better* when cold. < 1282504760 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes. < 1282504762 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But /that/ cold? < 1282504770 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The components would get icy! :P < 1282504772 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we can make it unheated and use HTSCs! < 1282504776 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people have used liquid nitrogen cooling. < 1282504784 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1282504791 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Argentina_(orthographic_projection).svg <-- am I right in thinking that you could just pick the bit next to the light green and then link to argentina, dark green? < 1282504791 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can't get ice when there's no water vapour. < 1282504796 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are those claimed by someone else? < 1282504808 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: Well, okay, it's just a sort of "wtf that can't work" thing. < 1282504816 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Antarctica is considered a desert" < 1282504825 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1282504826 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Antarctica.jpg < 1282504835 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems Argentina has claimed it. < 1282504843 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: there's a bit argentina hasn't though < 1282504848 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Argentina_(orthographic_projection).svg < 1282504849 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very long way to Argentina. < 1282504855 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the green is the bit argentina hasn't claimed. < 1282504857 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1282504859 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From Marie Byrd land. < 1282504863 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the green is the bit it has claimed < 1282504868 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: yeah, but undersea cables are long anyway < 1282504872 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course our biggest problem < 1282504886 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they couldn't run through any of those sectors that have been claimed. < 1282504889 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that this kind of expensive anything-but-child-pr0n hosting has a world market of maybe < 1282504892 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,000 customers < 1282504893 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tops < 1282504897 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this infrastructure is expensive as shit < 1282504913 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore i propose we just take that african land and found an anarcho-syndicalist commune < 1282504934 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that not even Egypt and Sudan want it, that seems a bit impractical. < 1282504937 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote MOON < 1282504957 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, it doesn't look inhospitable. < 1282504981 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just horribly unwanted. < 1282504989 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its name means "water well", quite a promising name :P < 1282505000 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be like Greenland, though. < 1282505001 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a list of unclaimed lands? < 1282505005 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1282505005 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: Moon is good. Moon is great. Moon requires more resources than nations are willing to dump into it. < 1282505015 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_nullius < 1282505024 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, you have no AMBITION < 1282505032 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cstart.org/ < 1282505033 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurf durf < 1282505046 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just need a server, a laser, a receiver and a maintenance robot! < 1282505049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a bunch of talentless reddit guys convinced they can get to the moon using THE VAST COMMUNE OF MODERN SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE) < 1282505059 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey, they have a logo! they're as good as there. < 1282505059 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, the moon is bloody hot when the sun is up. < 1282505074 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :latency to the moon sucks < 1282505089 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Better than Mars. < 1282505091 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but it's so cool it doesn't matter. < 1282505098 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's what, ~3s? < 1282505104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: BETTER THAN ANDROMEDA < 1282505116 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: But LIGHTSPEED BANDWIDTH < 1282505119 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... The Moon is at least close enough for TCP/IP to *work*. < 1282505120 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1282505137 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TCP/IP/FUCKING HUGE LASER < 1282505150 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION remembers the bit in "The Cuckoo's Egg" where Stoll concluded that the hacker lived on the moon.
< 1282505155 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOON HACKING < 1282505156 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, technically everything is, you just need to set your allowed latencies way the hell up. < 1282505175 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Where's the intruder coming from?" "The moon!" < 1282505187 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wait how do we do the sends < 1282505187 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALIENS ARE STEALING MY DATA < 1282505188 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EASY SOLUTION < 1282505193 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANOTHER GIANT FUCKING LASER TRANSMITTER < 1282505195 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, LASER < 1282505195 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POINTED AT THE MOON < 1282505204 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT WAS MY IDEA ALL ALONG < 1282505213 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEW PEW PEW < 1282505218 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAIT < 1282505225 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF YOU PUT YOUR HAND IN FRONT OF THE RECEIVER OR TRANSMITTER < 1282505226 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WOULD BREAK < 1282505229 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd only get reception from half the day. < 1282505229 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEREFORE < 1282505232 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE ARM GUARDS < 1282505234 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At best. < 1282505237 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH LASER GUNS < 1282505240 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT ABOUT CLOUDS? < 1282505248 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DESTROY ALL CLOUDS WITH LASERS < 1282505266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://pastie.org/1108197.txt?key=y7rbmbtn18uwnshgbd8za Please make this code suck less. Thank you. < 1282505271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Also, make it work. < 1282505276 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GO GO GO < 1282505284 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just use a wavelength that can go through water? < 1282505300 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: NOT VISIBLE < 1282505301 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: < 1282505302 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT COOL < 1282505307 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like 2.4 MHz! < 1282505316 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets rid of clouds and pesky biologicals, too! < 1282505353 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Insufficiently functional. < 1282505372 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, but I'm using an insufficiently cool language to keep me sufficiently able to code simple plugins. < 1282505395 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: In an ideal world, it'd be written in whatever my damn language is called. < 1282505402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which has super-asynchronous continuation process functional power! < 1282505411 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And IRC is INTERTWINGLED BETWIXT everything else, dude. < 1282505417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Responses to WHOISes by continuations! < 1282505422 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND. < 1282505587 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mother. < 1282505593 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Your BROTHA. < 1282505594 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, USE BOTH! < 1282505600 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Visible and radio! < 1282505616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that'll piss off Eridrianians even more! < 1282505624 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eridrania? < 1282505629 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Eridanians < 1282505716 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the signals will just hit the moon! < 1282505730 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR WILL THEY < 1282505743 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the ability to know the current phase of the moon will become relevant! < 1282505774 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack.moon.org will only work at the HARDEST POSSIBLE TIME. < 1282505787 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it won't. < 1282505800 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll work for 12 hours a day, approximately. < 1282505807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shaddap. < 1282505814 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put broadcasters on BOTH SIDES. < 1282505816 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1282505819 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would so work shut up < 1282505824 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, I know) < 1282505844 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tidal locking is so cool. < 1282505961 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND. <-- wait you're planning to send them to the moon too? < 1282505990 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course! < 1282505999 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We will need maintenance! < 1282506091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think a super-semantic continuation-based IRC library would be a rather ridiculously cool idea. If a horrible case of overengineering. < 1282506113 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the moon in sunlight is very hot, so I'm not sure how we'd keep it cool. < 1282506140 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ice lasers. < 1282506144 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could beam cold from earth. < 1282506147 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or: LIQUID NITROGEN. < 1282506158 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How hot does it get, anyway?) < 1282506191 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Varies between 123° and -233° < 1282506208 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably -233 is not in the day. < 1282506242 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, < 1282506279 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Temperature during the day is averaged at 107°, night at -153 < 1282506279 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Nordic #esoterickers, what universities are you going to? < 1282506288 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: Celsius? < 1282506293 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally. < 1282506293 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's British. So, yes. < 1282506297 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1282506299 0 :alise!~alise@91.105.78.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282506302 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh, we'd better give that thing an atmosphere. < 1282506315 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: fizzie/Deewiant are Aalto guyz (really TKK but whatever) < 1282506318 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol is university of turku < 1282506324 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about anmaster (uppsala i think?) < 1282506331 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric University, of course < 1282506335 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah uppsala < 1282506340 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we could keep a reservoir of cold during the night, then use that during the day to keep the servers cool. < 1282506340 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aalto University School of Science and Technology, these days. < 1282506355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i'll stick to saying TKK when i need to (which is never) < 1282506392 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still even officially TKK for short, I think. < 1282506407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switzerland's name is so awesome. < 1282506412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Confœderatio Helvetica) < 1282506440 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay, TKK is the Aalto School of Science, Etc., which is presumably part of Aalto University. < 1282506444 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did they name it after a font? < 1282506452 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: You got your cause and effect mixed up, buddy. < 1282506487 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, what font will we use on the MOON < 1282506489 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 1960, the typeface's name was changed by Haas' German parent company Stempel to Helvetica (derived from Confoederatio Helvetica, the Latin name for Switzerland) in order to make it more marketable internationally. It was initially suggested that the type be called 'Helvetia' which is the original Latin name for Switzerland. This was ignored by Eduard Hoffmann as he decided it wouldn't be appropriate to name a type after a country. He then decided on 'Hel < 1282506490 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vetica' as this meant 'Swiss' as opposed to 'Switzerland'. < 1282506498 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : We could beam cold from earth. <-- in this channel we obey the laws of thermodynamics! not by choice, mind you. < 1282506551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the world's first knitting terrorist < 1282506554 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Aalto, Turku, and Uppsala are all about the same size. < 1282506565 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beam cold from Earth. Uh, let me think about how well that would work. < 1282506569 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: but only ONE is next to helsinki! < 1282506576 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: something lunatic, obviously < 1282506589 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which contains all 3 people in Finland < 1282506594 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 or so of whom are in here < 1282506595 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say it would work about as well as beaming energy from Earth. < 1282506604 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as our Finnology department has discovered < 1282506606 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lunatica is a cool name for a font. right? < 1282506615 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, i'll alias it to Curlz MT < 1282506616 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I was wondering, if there are only 3 people in Finland, how come this channel has more than 3 people? < 1282506632 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : who cares about anmaster (uppsala i think?) <-- no? < 1282506644 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm nowhere near uppsala < 1282506646 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you said uppsala university before < 1282506658 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: this has been covered in depth in prior months (i think a year or so ago even) < 1282506663 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: one of them drives the bus, btw < 1282506665 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, AnMaster is in disguise. < 1282506676 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Indeed. < 1282506678 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl: He is. < 1282506680 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, no I didn't. At most I said I considered it to be interesting to do master studies there < 1282506681 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does finland have to do with this channel? < 1282506694 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there's a lot of you here < 1282506695 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but bachelor I never claimed I'm doing at that university < 1282506699 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ^ < 1282506699 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Helsinki University has more students than the combined might of Aalto; then again, UH is a generalized everything-in-it university, while Aalto is just a amalgamation of three specialized ones (technology, arts, business, in no particular order). < 1282506701 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ok. thought you did < 1282506701 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's a mathematical theorem that if this channel is analytic, then everyone in it is Finnish. < 1282506703 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it have to do with the moon < 1282506728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see... Ilari, ineiros, fizzie, Deewiant < 1282506735 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, it's still bigger? I hadn't realized that. < 1282506749 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think there used to be one or two more < 1282506771 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Source: Wikipedia; but it says 35200 students for UH, 20434 for Aalto. Those other two "we" got were so small, relatively speaking. < 1282506772 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol < 1282506775 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: i doubt this channel is even measurable, far less analytic < 1282506777 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should change my nickname to one of those fancy newfangled initial-and-name nicks. < 1282506789 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "ehird" and "jcowan" and "rlpowell" and "dons". < 1282506793 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nordic, etc.: MigoMipo, MizardX, oerjan, FireFly, fizzie, Deewiant, ineiros, Ilari, and olsner. < 1282506794 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm, by that much, too. < 1282506807 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except one of those is an initial-and-initial-and-name nick and another is a name-and-initial nick. < 1282506807 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: oklopol. < 1282506813 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Surely some sort of land-grab war would be in order. < 1282506814 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: well he never comes here any more, but yeah < 1282506834 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: They're rubbish unless you have the right name. < 1282506842 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Initials are great if you can pull it off. < 1282506851 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tswett" is a rather dubious name. < 1282506856 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is ts? < 1282506860 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think there's a ts on freenode already < 1282506864 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ts" is too short. < 1282506871 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it's not. < 1282506875 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ts :Nickname is already in use. < 1282506875 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No pun intended. < 1282506877 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is in use. < 1282506884 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* [ts] (~ts@bzflag/developer/ts): Thomas Stauer < 1282506885 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? It's so short that it's in use. < 1282506892 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: tanners! < 1282506901 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tanners < 1282506904 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess his claim to that nick is as good as mine. < 1282506904 0 :tanners!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have it for $100. < 1282506912 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tanners" is a common noun. < 1282506916 0 :tanners!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely! < 1282506917 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh, AnMaster is in disguise. <-- you change nick too... < 1282506920 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As is "tanner". < 1282506924 0 :tanners!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also REGISTERED! < 1282506926 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: not often, though. < 1282506928 0 :tanners!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :swett < 1282506933 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Registered? By whom? < 1282506934 0 :swett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Here you go. < 1282506936 0 :swett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By tanners. < 1282506940 0 :swett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TannerS, it is. < 1282506955 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only nick I'm actually considering is tswett, so if you want to take what I want from me, register that one. < 1282506959 0 :swett!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tswett < 1282506962 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this one is awful. < 1282506963 0 :derdon!~quassel@p5B3E3760.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282506969 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, I did it once < 1282506969 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the better. < 1282506973 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, so not often either! < 1282506975 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would be very reluctant to nickchange to, say, sgold
< 1282506978 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to take it, I just want to extort a ludicrous price out of you for it. < 1282506987 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: and Sgeo_who_is_Seth_Gold would be EVEN WORSE! < 1282507000 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping that you'll take it so that I can sue you. < 1282507000 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also fungot, 'es Finnish! In the "place of residence" sense, at least, even if not the nationality one. < 1282507001 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so please suggest a male name that starts with a small bootable linux distro, i have < 1282507002 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metaphorically. < 1282507008 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially since it's probably too long < 1282507009 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Yes, IRC Law. < 1282507011 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I said (fungot). < 1282507012 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the guy who ircs from a phone was to use ffmpeg to generate a new name, now? < 1282507018 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I didn't. < 1282507020 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to, though. < 1282507031 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A male name that starts with a bootable Linux distro sounds awesome, too. < 1282507036 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Use ffmpeg to generate a new name. < 1282507038 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a bit long. < 1282507042 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Only if you IRC from a phone though. < 1282507060 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So who's fungot's mother? < 1282507060 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: sisc, chicken, fnord supports keywords are indexes in terms, but you do need eof) < 1282507069 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Scheme implementations are. < 1282507073 0 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282507078 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay, move over. The nick envy is setting in. < 1282507085 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~~~ < 1282507090 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this name sucks :-P < 1282507098 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely. Why do you want it? :P < 1282507108 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, now to figure out how to use ffmpeg as an rng < 1282507114 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I think there is a very slight chance that I can either get a tiny bit of money from you for it, or amuse myself trying to. < 1282507121 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods.
< 1282507122 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, because I know you know I'll give up very quickly. < 1282507129 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I figured. < 1282507133 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Vonlebio < 1282507141 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick! Let's assume other people's nicks! < 1282507142 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone! < 1282507187 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alisenot < 1282507203 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would prefer to just note that most people's idea of ROM organisation sucks ass
< 1282507209 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1282507212 0 :alisenot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would feel very, very weird actually stealing someone's nick
< 1282507213 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rom nom nom nom < 1282507230 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1282507233 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hmm, let's archive each and every bad, broken dump!" "Aaaawesome!" < 1282507245 0 :alisenot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could just ghost you, you know < 1282507248 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And each and every ROM hack, no matter how juvenile!" "Aaaawesome!" < 1282507263 0 :alisenot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...actually, I don't know my Freenode password off the top of my head < 1282507276 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: your note has been noted < 1282507290 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1282507291 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: olsner: nickswap < 1282507297 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you do /nick notpikhq < 1282507298 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: 9 < 1282507300 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you do /nick pikhq < 1282507304 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you do /nick olsner < 1282507312 0 :alisenot!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise < 1282507316 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq_ < 1282507318 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1282507323 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too tempting to resist. < 1282507328 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise < 1282507335 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: You win! Have your crappy nick! < 1282507338 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tswett < 1282507340 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you. < 1282507345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOPS I REGISTERED IT LOL < 1282507352 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually I didn't, but I totally should have.) < 1282507352 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1282507353 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282507363 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Sgeo_! You disconnected a bit back there. < 1282507365 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a coincidence. < 1282507365 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I smell funny! < 1282507392 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ActiveWorlds sucks! < 1282507410 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nickswapping sucks < 1282507420 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets his password in hand
< 1282507422 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :life sucks < 1282507432 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Vonlebio < 1282507435 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1282507438 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1282507440 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1282507441 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So close < 1282507444 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1282507448 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo_ < 1282507451 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was gonna /nick Sgeo. < 1282507464 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you still can! < 1282507467 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1282507475 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack is for gay people. < 1282507492 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I founded SGEOWIKI! But everyone else wrote all the articles. < 1282507495 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise < 1282507498 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise_ < 1282507507 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to get pointless, pointless revenge! < 1282507522 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise < 1282507531 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1282507533 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sucker. < 1282507535 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN < 1282507569 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282507575 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1282507579 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps alise_
< 1282507587 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you /did/ do it. < 1282507617 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum. < 1282507626 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1282507921 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great success! < 1282507922 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise < 1282508008 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CANNOT HARM ME EVIL LORD ALISE < 1282508022 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The battle was not against you. < 1282508061 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS NOW < 1282508175 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks a person with the name Vonlebio shouldn't go around accusing other people of being evil lord
< 1282508185 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1282508207 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's evil about "Vonlebio"? < 1282508254 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very evil overlord name < 1282508276 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have you know that it's SHAKESPEREAN < 1282508312 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, tell oerjan < 1282508313 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: well, i'm only back in denmark because my work visa expired. please insert token to continue. < 1282508325 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Vonlebio: well, i'm only back in denmark because my work visa expired. please insert token to continue. < 1282508326 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: either the way, my program was buggy and i preferred to -i?!) < 1282508341 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :217| Vonlebio: well, i'm only back in denmark because my work visa expired. please insert token to continue. < 1282508350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282508352 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :164| I am an inherently pornographic being. < 1282508353 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it were shakespearean i would imagine google would give more than 1 hit for it. < 1282508367 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an ANAGRAM < 1282508371 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one hit is probably Vonlebio himself. < 1282508382 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possible. < 1282508411 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tried putting a space between von and lebio, it didn't really help
< 1282508418 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote * oerjan thinks a person with the name Vonlebio shouldn't go around accusing other people of being evil lord < 1282508420 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :218|* oerjan thinks a person with the name Vonlebio shouldn't go around accusing other people of being evil lord < 1282508428 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282508430 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :72| ignore me, i'm full of bullshit < 1282508432 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282508432 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a very good quote :p < 1282508433 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOR IS THAT < 1282508434 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :129| bi is like sqrt(2)/2 * straight + i * sqrt(2)/2 * gay < 1282508448 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282508449 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12| Lil`Cube: you had cavity searches? not yet trying to thou, just so I can check it off on my list of things to expirence < 1282508458 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unquote < 1282508459 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1282508462 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh actually /me can't think how to generate anagrams nicely in haskell < 1282508468 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1282508469 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1282508478 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 218 < 1282508479 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :218|* oerjan thinks a person with the name Vonlebio shouldn't go around accusing other people of being evil lord < 1282508483 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was thinking a list comprehension might help < 1282508484 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1282508485 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1282508488 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 218 < 1282508489 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :218|* oerjan thinks a person with the name Vonlebio shouldn't go around accusing other people of being evil lord < 1282508492 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1282508493 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1282508494 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1282508501 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at revision history
< 1282508507 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 1602 < 1282508509 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1282508510 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 218 < 1282508512 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :218|* oerjan thinks a person with the name Vonlebio shouldn't go around accusing other people of being evil lord < 1282508515 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1282508519 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be impossible < 1282508523 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert ` < 1282508526 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 1 < 1282508528 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1282508532 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 218 < 1282508533 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1282508540 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1282508544 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert`quote < 1282508545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1282508545 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1282508546 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wtf < 1282508548 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282508549 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6| I think the freemasons are actually a cover for homosexual men. < 1282508550 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 1601 < 1282508552 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1282508554 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 218 < 1282508556 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1282508556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 217 < 1282508560 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1282508562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1282508566 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT HAVE YOU DONE < 1282508567 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 216 < 1282508569 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :216| alise: so parrot was based around gcc? < 1282508570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Vonlebio: well, i'm only back in denmark because my work visa expired. please insert token to continue. < 1282508571 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: reminds me of the cartoon character? :) and do you answer yourself? this isnt some kind of spacetime rift thingy which is in pure ansi c)) < 1282508573 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :217| Vonlebio: well, i'm only back in denmark because my work visa expired. please insert token to continue. < 1282508574 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. < 1282508582 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conclusion: wtf. < 1282508685 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Data.List; ana [] = [[]]; ana l = [x:xs | (pre, x:aft) <- zip (inits l) (tails l), xs <- ana (pre++aft)]; main = print $ ana "thus" < 1282508694 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :["thus","thsu","tuhs","tush","tshu","tsuh","htus","htsu","huts","hust","hstu","hsut","uths","utsh","uhts","uhst","usth","usht","sthu","stuh","shtu","shut","suth","suht"] < 1282508712 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sheesh, is that the shortest it can get? < 1282508716 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN YOU HASKELL < 1282508980 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Never ever use a quote which contains both the words "aloofness" and "gel" (verb). < 1282509079 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1282509079 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1282509090 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: YOU DON'T NEED IT IT IS INFERIOR TO BOTTE < 1282509091 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1282509097 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1282509097 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1282509101 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOO < 1282509109 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 weeks HackBot fuck < 1282509110 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 weeks HackBot fuck < 1282509110 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 weeks HackBot fuck < 1282509110 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 weeks HackBot fuck < 1282509110 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 weeks HackBot fuck < 1282509111 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaat < 1282509112 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!fuck < 1282509189 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Data.List; ana [] = [[]]; ana l = [x:xs | x <- l, xs <- ana (delete x l)]; main = print $ ana "test" < 1282509191 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :["test","tets","tset","tste","ttes","ttse","etst","etts","estt","estt","etst","etts","stet","stte","sett","sett","stet","stte","test","tets","tset","tste","ttes","ttse"] < 1282509202 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, what? < 1282509210 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm does delete only delete one? < 1282509216 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1282509216 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: from the hackego command logs < 1282509222 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" 1.1 Binary file babies/babies.db has changed" < 1282509228 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently !fuck changed babies/babies.db. < 1282509237 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, eh I seldom say "fuck" on it's own like that, seems unlikely < 1282509238 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't do that kind of thing in public, Vorpal. < 1282509242 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's because you said !fuck < 1282509243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fuck < 1282509251 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's commandname ... < 1282509251 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Data.List; ana [] = [[]]; ana l = [x:xs | x <- nub l, xs <- ana (delete x l)]; main = print $ ana "test" < 1282509254 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :["test","tets","tset","tste","ttes","ttse","etst","etts","estt","stet","stte","sett"] < 1282509254 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, oh right, that thing he was playing around with < 1282509258 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, now I remember < 1282509261 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ask gregor < 1282509265 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of busy < 1282509266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/b2166a5a1366 < 1282509266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha wat < 1282509273 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fuck < 1282509274 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations! alise's action has brought a beautiful new baby into the world. Isn't it adorable? < 1282509325 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fuck < 1282509329 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations! olsner's action has brought a beautiful new baby into the world. Isn't it adorable? < 1282509330 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fuck < 1282509332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY ORGIES < 1282509333 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise's first child now has a little brother or sister! Aren't they so cute together? < 1282509366 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well < 1282509392 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh come on, 7 and more is boring < 1282509402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: ? < 1282509416 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, orgy opinions? < 1282509443 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the time there's 7, there's gonna be enough space usage that it's effectively two smaller orgies with occasional diplomatic relations :P < 1282509504 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, command-line sqlite, looks like a really convenient way to make a database < 1282509525 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: my friends, echo, sed, grep and awk < 1282509528 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me introduce you to them < 1282509559 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fuck < 1282509561 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise now has a third child! Congratulations! Surely that's enough though, right? < 1282509563 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STAMINA < 1282509587 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yeah, I know of them... let's just say sqlite looks like a very useful friend to also have :) < 1282509605 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: But it can't join in the UNIX plain text file orgy. < 1282509613 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, backtick is gruesome, takes three keypresses in swedish < 1282509615 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is the most hacked-together yet surprisingly functional orgy ever. < 1282509620 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fuck < 1282509626 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner just had a SIXTH baby! Wow! Don't you think it's about time to get an operation to put a stop to all this? < 1282509629 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yeah but you guys do have a retarded alphabet < 1282509633 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo `which fuck` < 1282509635 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/hackenv.13953/bin/fuck < 1282509637 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, how did you get six < 1282509641 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg? < 1282509649 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fuck < 1282509650 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat `which fuck` < 1282509651 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise just had a fourth baby. Even though the child support payments are starting to add up, and alise really doesn't earn enough money for this, it's still a beautiful sight. < 1282509652 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ if [ ! -e babies/babies.db ] \ then \ mkdir -p babies \ sqlite3 babies/babies.db 'CREATE TABLE babies(parent STRING PRIMARY KEY, count INTEGER);' \ fi \ \ # Update the count \ CURCOUNT=`sqlite3 babies/babies.db 'SELECT count FROM babies WHERE parent = '\'"$IRC_NICK"\'';'` \ NEWCOUNT=$(( CURCOUNT + 1 )) \ if [ < 1282509663 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fuck < 1282509665 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would think that four is enough, but alise's libido is entirely unstoppable. With five children, the weight of parenthood is starting to weigh down on alise's life. Sorry buddies, I can't hang out today, I have to clean puke off the rug. < 1282509668 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the alphabet is not retarded, it just has three additional letters... it's the keyboard layout < 1282509671 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM CONTRIBUTING TO OVERPOPULATION < 1282509673 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fuck < 1282509676 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise just had a SIXTH baby! Wow! Don't you think it's about time to get an operation to put a stop to all this? < 1282509679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fuck < 1282509680 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER < 1282509681 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise's 7th child has just been born! Awwwwww. < 1282509686 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's boring. < 1282509688 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just gets boring .. right < 1282509689 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Oh, you meant seven or more babies. < 1282509693 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not seven or more orgy participants. < 1282509694 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yes < 1282509699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I totally misinterpreted you! < 1282509707 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason it's made to support the accented letters of *every* european language < 1282509718 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Because you're HIPPIE COMMUNISTIC EUROFAGS. < 1282509739 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grave and acute accent, circumflex, tilde, double-dots -- all as dead keys < 1282509758 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I know how you interpreted it, I can try to understand what you meant < 1282509760 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION scrollsback
< 1282509857 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 3d100 < 1282509858 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :77 < 1282509869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 100d2 < 1282509870 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :150 < 1282509876 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 0d0 < 1282509878 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1282509878 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 1d0 < 1282509881 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1282509883 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 0d1 < 1282509887 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1282509896 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 0d-1 < 1282509897 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1282509900 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 1d-1 < 1282509902 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1282509906 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 1d-1 < 1282509908 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1282509908 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 1d-1 < 1282509909 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now whatever you do, don't mix the interpretations. < 1282509911 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1282509912 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 1d-2 < 1282509916 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1282509920 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 4d-2 < 1282509921 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 < 1282509925 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ORGY BABIES < 1282509959 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL < 1282510040 0 :cheater99!~cheater@p5B2174FD.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282510144 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282510148 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll -2d3 < 1282510150 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1282510177 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll -2d-3 < 1282510178 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1282510188 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 1d-3 < 1282510190 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1282510192 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`roll 1d-3 < 1282510193 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1282510510 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :barba < 1282510727 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: quick! what's the recommended way to do mutually dependent modules in python? < 1282510737 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha only kidding you're NOT ALLOWED TO < 1282510737 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1282510774 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean technically you can < 1282510776 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's really brittle < 1282510783 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1282510788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. < 1282510789 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do < 1282510791 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from foo import bar < 1282510802 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from bar import blah < 1282510804 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er that is < 1282510806 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from foo import x < 1282510807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from bar import y < 1282510808 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in each module < 1282510810 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't work < 1282510850 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"She didn't answer, save for a soft smile. Their eyes locked, and Sokka caught a slightly doe-eyed look on his sister face that he never, ever, ever, ever, ever wanted to see directed at anyone � much less himself." < 1282510873 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Random person! The IRC connection-mediator-thingy IRCClient should really be the one that parses lines, shouldn't it, not the Context (the "fully parsed" version, with field names depending on command, methods to reply to the right place, etc.) class?! < 1282510892 0 :SgeoN2!~AndChat@166.199.29.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282510910 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Ever, erver, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, < 1282510979 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: sounds like you know what you're talking about, and I don't < 1282510993 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: No, I honestly don't. I'm just trying to get an opinion. < 1282511016 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the parser of lines should obviously be independent of both < 1282511030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the parser is a very few lines < 1282511044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, shouldn't irc.py contain the IRC parser, not context.py? :P < 1282511046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really it should be client.py. < 1282511048 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make it client.py. < 1282511083 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1282511416 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIE DIE DIE SgeoN1! < 1282511744 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i /think/ the client should do the parsing actually < 1282511754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it has fancy methods like .say(channel, 'blah') < 1282511760 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so obviously it already does some irc translation < 1282511777 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is i have to come up with a structure to represent the parsing :) no wait i don't i can use context! yay! < 1282511875 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION seems to be doing well as the rubber duck
< 1282511895 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you can't buy amusing swedish rubber ducks! < 1282511905 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster is proof of this < 1282511994 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Except, of course, that IRCClients don't know about the big bad Bot that puts them together, but Context needs the bot so that handlers can use it. < 1282512000 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet IRCClients construct the Context. < 1282512002 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW WHAT < 1282512079 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I mean, I /could/ pass a reference to the Bot to the IRCClient, but the IRCClient has no reason to know i-- yes it DOES < 1282512086 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it passes the Context on to the bot to handle it < 1282512095 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're the best, olsner, you know that? < 1282512135 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't know that :) < 1282512201 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : olsner: you can't buy amusing swedish rubber ducks! anmaster is proof of this <-- err? < 1282512220 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You're a Swedish rubber duck. You are not amusing. < 1282512222 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quod erat demonstrandum. < 1282512227 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You do now! < 1282512237 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, but why do you think I'm a rubber duck? < 1282512244 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, only rubber ducks are that dumb. < 1282512254 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: or *do* I? :P < 1282512270 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You fixed my architecture without saying a word! < 1282512286 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it's a little known fact but rubber ducks are in fact highly intelligent, with an average IQ of 420 < 1282512292 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that IQ means much < 1282512298 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1282512312 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not that 420 is even a meaningful IQ. < 1282512322 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1282512338 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUCKS: Constantly stoned, and CONSTANTLY INTELLECTUAL. < 1282512356 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When they're not smoking pot, their IQ is actually -83; just high enough to light up the next one. < 1282512363 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, random idea: Brainfuck compiler in Coq, like Compcert (?) < 1282512374 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: It's not exactly hard to certify a Brainfuck compiler :P < 1282512388 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's something to do! < 1282512403 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do it, then. < 1282512406 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then extract it :P < 1282512410 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.labri.fr/perso/casteran/CoqArt/firebird.jpg < 1282512416 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: btw, I think an IQ of 420 is theoretically possible < 1282512418 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope like hell that's the real cover. < 1282512430 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's theoretically possible in the loosest sense. < 1282512435 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Interactive-Theorem-Proving-Development-ebook/dp/B000QCUCZU < 1282512437 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not this printing < 1282512438 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will never, but never, happen. < 1282512439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe the first printing < 1282512446 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: Post-singularity? < 1282512449 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1282512457 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why not. < 1282512461 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IQ is defined based on average intelligence. < 1282512465 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, true. < 1282512469 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But right after the Singularity. < 1282512472 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before it's been re-adjusted. < 1282512495 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, the combined intelligence counting as one person, and all the billions of dumbfucks on planet Earth left behind. < 1282512506 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, I still don't think it would be sensible. < 1282512521 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would mean absolutely nothing, for one thing. < 1282512537 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would certainly mean something. < 1282512540 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how it'd mean nt ohing. < 1282512546 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's incomprehensibly intelligent. 420 IQ." < 1282512579 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nothing. < 1282512580 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: True. < 1282512609 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is even assuming you can *have* an intelligence metric that applies to post-Singularity intellects. < 1282512620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, just give it one of the standard IQ tests. :-D < 1282512623 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yeah, that wouldn't work.) < 1282512627 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maximum score and all that jazz.) < 1282512648 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course, you wouldn't be able to calibrate it with the extant data. < 1282512678 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gahh, I hate cluttery .pyc files. < 1282512680 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They make me want to kill. < 1282512690 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cluttery? < 1282512693 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1282512699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They clutter up directory listings, tab complete, etc. < 1282512730 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, you can disable compilation somehow < 1282512732 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then just find . -name "*.pyc" | xargs rm every once in a while < 1282512752 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or disable saving the pyc files < 1282512762 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282512764 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :174| [...] i'm a law student so i am loving my bread machine < 1282512766 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1282512773 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yeah, but ... < 1282512778 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many of these quotes are from fungot? < 1282512779 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: it wouldn't be 120kloc long when i have this plan. thank you!"? < 1282512783 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: lots. < 1282512787 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that's a mistake in this fanfic, or the author realized that Azula wouldn't know that tidbit < 1282512787 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blame me (and a few others) < 1282512790 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that many actually < 1282512807 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normish used to have a thing that listed the quotes < 1282512808 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Are you just doing this so we ask you what the hell you're talking about? < 1282512811 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282512814 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :125|Note that quote number 124 is not actually true. < 1282512827 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, clearly I'm talking about a fanfic < 1282512827 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282512829 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :89| What else is there to vim besides editing commands? < 1282512852 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Yes, but you seem to have absolutely no reason to talk about it here except to provoke us to ask questions. I will not be corrupted. :p < 1282512857 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is... the single most pointless quote yet. < 1282512866 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1282512869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :125 or 89? < 1282512873 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :89 < 1282512874 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :89 is funny < 1282512879 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 124 < 1282512881 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not hilarious, but funny < 1282512881 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :124| I cannot eat meat that isn't flat. < 1282512885 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the quotes are funny, but not hilarious < 1282512886 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't get it
< 1282512898 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excepting fungot, surely? < 1282512898 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: never mind, i typed 50% faster in dvorak than in qwerty after a while < 1282512900 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: What is there to Windows but files and folders? < 1282512911 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's not funny to me, it's just a fairly obvious observation about the nature of vim? < 1282512913 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a lot. < 1282512915 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is there to programming apart from drawing interfaces? < 1282512931 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the context made it a bit clearer < 1282512941 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ was treating vim like it was olde-style vi with barely any commands < 1282513032 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513033 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :182| Because you're a Mac user. I am! and proud of it to My mouse has *no* buttons. < 1282513049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513050 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :208|* Phantom_Hoover sticks crayons in his nose < 1282513052 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513055 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :212| it was too difficult < 1282513058 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513060 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :60| Mafia's addictin < 1282513062 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513064 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :194| cpressey: I have actually done a waterfall-model project that almost worked That's where you have a flexible kayak that bobs and weaves between the rocks as it plummets off the cliff < 1282513184 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513187 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :147| (still, whatever possessed anyone to invent the N-Gage?) < 1282513190 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513192 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :80| I think hamsters cannot be inert. < 1282513193 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513195 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :168| And... WTF is it doing. :( Is it sexing? < 1282513201 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513203 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :24| ehird has gone insane, clearly. < 1282513206 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513207 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :62| With enough crappiness a display can show you invisible pink unicorns. < 1282513209 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513211 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :130| Sgeo_: Gregorr: and someone could, by mistake, rewrite psox to be a weak erection if it is... A filename. < 1282513217 0 :aschueler!~alec@host86-131-222-46.range86-131.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282513218 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :virtuhird is my favourite < 1282513220 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1282513221 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513222 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :163| alise: why internet is like wtf < 1282513225 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513227 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :94|* oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### Meh * FireFly dies < 1282513268 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, I'm funny < 1282513274 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513275 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :47| augur: pretty true. < 1282513277 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513278 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :166| you move on the tape and shit < 1282513280 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513282 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :133| (is it every teen girl's dream to be ravaged by a mythical beast? Does this explain the affection for unicorns?) < 1282513285 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513286 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :185| oerjan, can you ever get any number higher than 3 at the start of "ordinary" [look-and-say sequences]? it's not clear from the RFCs < 1282513289 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513291 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :36| ehird: There is no h in "honour" < 1282513342 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513344 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :206| i think of languages as tools, there is no holy grail of languages even if there's no holy grail, that doesn't mean cups of crap is ok < 1282513354 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: QUOTED IN HACKEGO, RESOLVER OF ARCHITECTURES < 1282513358 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote quote < 1282513359 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25|`quote 48| i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. 123|[Warrigal] `addquote hahaha, Lawlabee is running windows 'cuz it's pretty awesome. [Lawlabee] Warrigal: :( 125|Note that quote number 124 is not actually true. 139| let's put that in the HackEgo quotes < 1282513365 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we skip this spam please < 1282513369 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take it to /msg with the bot < 1282513373 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: nope. < 1282513374 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513374 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 48 < 1282513376 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, why not? < 1282513377 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1282513384 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: because it's fun annoying you < 1282513385 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1282513390 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, tab fail < 1282513391 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1282513394 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, WHY < 1282513394 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4302297/1/In_His_Shoes < 1282513397 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :talk about karma < 1282513397 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1282513401 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses /ignore then
< 1282513412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I can barely contain my excitement. < 1282513429 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can barely contain my excitement too < 1282513448 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody can contain their excitement any more than barely! < 1282513527 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKj7tX_nMHQ < 1282513531 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it, then? < 1282513544 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is sgeo linking to random fanfics? < 1282513565 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Yes, yes, you have the shitty Mac-based Lisp Machine. < 1282513571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COME BACK WHEN YOU HAVE A REAL LISPM. < 1282513585 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mac hosted you mean < 1282513609 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chip is faster than all other lispms except the XL < 1282513613 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1282513625 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the whole /point/ of buying a lisp machine is sticking a middle finger up at every conventional computer in usage < 1282513630 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even old macs are conventional < 1282513652 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does a modern lispm exist? < 1282513654 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the Lisp86 OS wouldn't be a true LispM? < 1282513663 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lisp /machine/. < 1282513672 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: only plans and designs. < 1282513680 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reduceron is a modern graph-reducer (for haskell) < 1282513681 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By whom? < 1282513687 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random people. nothing very concrete < 1282513715 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I'd rather have this then paying 1000 shipping for something that is maybe 500 lbs < 1282513715 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are the cool things abandoned? < 1282513735 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: ehhh the old ones aren't that heavy are they < 1282513737 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really slow ones < 1282513744 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irritating people who go on about design patterns and OO? < 1282513744 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: sturgeon's law must be upheld < 1282513745 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: They are 300 lb minimum < 1282513749 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the "tower" < 1282513749 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: Because making money is not cool. < 1282513762 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you mean cool is not making money :P < 1282513768 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes. < 1282513778 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: if you get a tower, then you must get a monitor and keyboard < 1282513784 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: bah! < 1282513788 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and monitor is a huge fucker :{ < 1282513799 0 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282513807 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am far too noble a soul to care about money, but various crass and vulgar people insist upon it in return for goods and services" — Asimov (paraphrased) < 1282513809 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: stanislav was, at one point, working on an adapter to use it with a regular lcd/mouse < 1282513859 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On top of all that, there's no guarantee any of it work actually work: http://cgi.ebay.com/310236995571 < 1282513869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: yeah, so buy a new one < 1282513893 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: there isn't exactly a saturated supply of them < 1282513898 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: yes there is < 1282513900 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from dks < 1282513914 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: http://www.lispmachine.net/symbolics.txt < 1282513925 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know; I've talked to him over the past 1.5 years < 1282513934 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not like there's a huge demand. < 1282513941 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'd say one from him is guaranteed to work < 1282513952 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's not even in VA anymore < 1282513966 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he has someone else ship it out < 1282513971 0 :SgeoN2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1282513974 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that hardly applies to me, i'm not even in the US :-P < 1282514029 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I think shipping is $150 too for *just* the tower < 1282514041 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you don't want to waste money why buy a lispm :) < 1282514044 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How... Fortuitous. < 1282514051 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ? < 1282514052 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :缶 is Japanese for "can". < 1282514056 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is read "kan". < 1282514061 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's so... fortuitous? < 1282514063 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: what? < 1282514066 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :缶t < 1282514069 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1282514072 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: ? < 1282514078 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/fortuitous/coincidental/ < 1282514081 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words hard be. < 1282514087 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I don't want to waste money, why buy a lispm? < 1282514088 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But how is that even ... ? < 1282514090 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Eh? < 1282514091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: yes < 1282514100 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: "can", the container. < 1282514105 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ah. < 1282514113 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Immanuel 缶't < 1282514118 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It just happens to be "kan" in Japanese. < 1282514231 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :caxitab geometry < 1282514249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: not engrish? < 1282514255 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not Engrish. < 1282514277 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has read that japanese for "so" is "so"
< 1282514296 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more "sou". < 1282514308 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, yeah. < 1282514310 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does [M] in xchat's title mean? < 1282514320 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means you're a Minor < 1282514323 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(under US law) < 1282514348 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION now waits for pikhq to explain how that's all misspelled, and only vaguely true. oerjan decides to finish this line even though it's half happened already.
< 1282514365 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, why has Proofgeneral's indentation behaviour changed all of a sudden? < 1282514372 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: it's a bit screwy sometimes. < 1282514376 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Eh; the only misspelling was an ommision of all indications of vowel length. < 1282514385 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAH < 1282514391 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say. so. < 1282514405 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's more than vaguely true. It has slightly different nuance, but it *is* "so". < 1282514416 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how to handle capitalisation of karma
< 1282514426 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone says "PIKHQ++" the first time, should you be forever told that "PIKHQ has 3 karma"? < 1282514434 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is getting from nicks practical, since they might be gone? < 1282514439 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: PIKHQ9++ < 1282514443 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about just lowercasing? how will Phantom_Hover feel about that < 1282514447 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT DO I DO < 1282514456 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :そう、何? < 1282514461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: WHAT < 1282514467 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-218-226-149.hsd1.dc.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282514468 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: base it off the most recently seen capitalization? < 1282514472 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is pretty much *precisely* "So, what?" < 1282514474 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, why would I feel about lowercasing? < 1282514479 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sou, nani?) < 1282514502 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: because "phantom_hoover" < 1282514511 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: seen? as in used to increase karma? < 1282514515 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hmm, good idea, thanks < 1282514516 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. THAT IS AN ABOMINATION < 1282514525 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: or even < 1282514534 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is entirely coincidence. < 1282514538 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: if you do ".karma foo" it'll give back "foo has karma ..." < 1282514544 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1282514545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.karma fOO, etc. < 1282514552 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sou" is just one of the systematically-formed demonstratives in Japanese. < 1282514553 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically all i need to do is echo the user < 1282514554 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and store it lowercased < 1282514565 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, i need an @on_command now < 1282514566 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fun < 1282514683 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1282514684 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all those annotations it'll look like moo code... < 1282514709 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1282514734 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i really am a cow < 1282514737 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I demand that £ be used for botte comands. < 1282514742 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*commands < 1282514742 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: actually, . < 1282514750 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some commands are verbal < 1282514751 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1282514757 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :botte: botte has a fear of introspection < 1282514758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1282514759 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?botte < 1282514760 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1282514761 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some of them, then. < 1282514766 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : botte has a fear of introspection < 1282514768 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: no, all . :P < 1282514775 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1282514780 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.slash < 1282514780 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: no < 1282514782 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: all are "." < 1282514784 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly :P < 1282514789 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: .//. < 1282514792 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :£slash < 1282514799 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬slash < 1282514802 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slashnot < 1282514823 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¤slash < 1282514899 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¶slash < 1282514921 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slush date < 1282514974 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1282515006 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'd support multi-word karmas but i'm far too lazy ha ha ha)++ < 1282515035 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the plural of karma is karmæ < 1282515043 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What will the karma do? < 1282515044 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1282515057 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ is #. < 1282515062 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How strange. < 1282515100 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: just record meaningless, adjustable numbers < 1282515103 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio++ < 1282515106 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.karma Vonlebio -> 1 < 1282515108 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio-- < 1282515111 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio-- < 1282515114 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.karma Vonlebio -> -1 < 1282515116 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1282515118 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio++ < 1282515119 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio++ < 1282515121 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for you :P < 1282515126 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peano++ < 1282515154 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does Coq deal with really really big nats? < 1282515219 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :badly < 1282515221 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, for 1000000 does it actually create (S *1000000 0)? < 1282515223 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There are other number structures) < 1282515224 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1282515230 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there is a binary Z iirc) < 1282515234 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe a binary N too) < 1282515237 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1282515239 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know there's a binary z < 1282515241 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :may not be a binary n < 1282515247 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is. < 1282515291 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check 10000000. => segfault < 1282515298 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encouraging. < 1282515352 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coq is based on a tiny kernel on purpose, surely they cannot afford to special case that. < 1282515368 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*proof kernel < 1282515414 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1282515422 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid unfinished fanfic! < 1282515482 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, exactly < 1282515486 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they do, to some degree. < 1282515488 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: look at the binary Z < 1282515490 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they don't < 1282515509 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Warning: Stack overflow or segmentation fault happens when working with large < 1282515509 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers in nat (observed threshold may vary from 5000 to 70000 depending on < 1282515509 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your system limits and on the command executed)." < 1282515535 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there is some degree of special-casing. < 1282515551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1282515553 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that special casing < 1282515574 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? surely that is happening precisely because Nats are _not_ special cased, but treated just like its definition... < 1282515590 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gives you a huge depth of S's < 1282515591 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he means the warning is a special case < 1282515595 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a bit stupid. < 1282515631 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*their < 1282515657 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, didn't get what you meant by "special case". < 1282515668 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. as part of the actual proof kernel < 1282515673 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, if it has a single flaw, is disasterous < 1282515675 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1282515678 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1282515692 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agda regularly find bugs in their proof kernel because it's fucking gigantic :) < 1282515708 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas coq's has been maturing since the 80s... like fine wine :p < 1282515845 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Epigram? < 1282515957 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is just fun. < 1282515965 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and based on a very small kernel) < 1282516014 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Agda's kernel so busy doing? < 1282516025 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch of untested crap < 1282516030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that they didn't think to layer on < 1282516101 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1282516259 0 :nooga!~nooga@77-45-52-193.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1282517033 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome can be so hateful sometimes < 1282517046 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does a verified compiler even do? < 1282517058 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prove that the generated code does what it says it does? < 1282517094 0 :sshc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1282517188 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise < 1282517198 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur < 1282517198 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :send me some links to stuff about coqs proof kernel < 1282517201 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and epigrams < 1282517203 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1282517227 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1282517236 0 :sshc!~sshc@unaffiliated/sshc JOIN :#esoteric < 1282517576 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :myndzi < 1282517788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: this is all from my brain < 1282517791 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have any links < 1282517798 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: coq's is the calculus of inductive constructions < 1282517805 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :epigram 2's is observational type theory (but not with W-types) < 1282517812 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the implementation, see the code :P < 1282517815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : What does a verified compiler even do? < 1282517815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Prove that the generated code does what it says it does? < 1282517819 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prove that it never compiles incorrectly < 1282517826 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., a given C program always compiles to the right assembly < 1282517830 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1282517832 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., the compiler is proven to compile properly < 1282517836 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :always < 1282517838 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That must be complex. < 1282517844 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. it is < 1282517847 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why compcert is so amazing < 1282517858 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the PowerPC bit? < 1282517863 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god knows < 1282517869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they developed it on macs (it's a bit old) < 1282517879 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the machine code had some desirable property that made it easier < 1282517936 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A certified BF compiler would actually be impossible, come to think of it. < 1282517946 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's compiling to a lower CC. < 1282517970 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there will always exist some BF program that can't be compiled. < 1282517994 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CC? < 1282518001 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computational class < 1282518015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh what < 1282518021 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean that c is not tc < 1282518040 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: you could certify it as working "if we presume" that pointers have infinite range, though < 1282518046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a reasonable enough, although false, assumption to make < 1282518047 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. < 1282518055 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're compiling down to C where sizeof(void *) is allowed to be 1, say < 1282518059 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's actually infinitely big < 1282518061 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a C variant < 1282518067 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> sleep
< 1282518069 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a coincidence that you can compile it as normal C most of the time < 1282518081 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonlebio: you sleep too early < 1282518084 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1282518414 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1282518504 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have a copy of bitstream charter? < 1282518936 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's in arch < 1282519361 0 :derdon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1282519782 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh god install Bitstream Charter now. < 1282519789 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(xorg-fonts-type1 on Arch, dunno about Gentoo.) < 1282519816 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's optimised for 300 dpi laser printers of the 80s, which means it looks good even at low resolutions. < 1282519820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes it a beautiful screen serif. < 1282519943 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1282520119 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1282520181 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1282520206 0 :comex!~comex@c-67-188-10-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282520399 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1282520443 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1282520444 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am testing < 1282520447 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is interesting < 1282520450 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :verily < 1282520462 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1282520462 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-137.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1282520727 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1282520735 0 :alise!~alise@91.105.78.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1282520796 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, there's an input_command_char setting < 1282521166 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : irc_skip_motd set to: 1 < 1282521168 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yess < 1282521182 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1282521264 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scp is broken :( < 1282521270 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: WHY OH WHY < 1282521273 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tells me the destination file doesn't exist < 1282521274 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUH < 1282521278 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IM TRYING TO MAKE IT < 1282521283 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMGS < 1282521286 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRYING TO MAKE IT HOLY < 1282521287 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :==== < 1282521296 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, you made me feel better :) < 1282521301 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what how < 1282521314 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SCP Foundation is broken??? < 1282521325 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: HAHAHAHA FUNNIEST THING I EVER HEARD TWO SECONDS AGO < 1282521354 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :text_max_lines...............: 500 < 1282521355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :treachery < 1282521360 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1282521360 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1282521360 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c < 1282521362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1282521368 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1282521369 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1282521369 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c < 1282521424 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: wild GUI opinion: reverse logarithmic scrollbar < 1282521433 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: h8 u < 1282521439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way, grows-to-infinity texts < 1282521441 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like IRC with infinite backlog < 1282521449 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will never have their scrollbar grow infinitesimally small < 1282521458 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what i'm a genius < 1282521480 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : text_wordwrap................: ON < 1282521483 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a ludicrous setting < 1282521497 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no thank you, i'd like a horizontal scrollbar every other message, please" < 1282521562 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am SCP-426.