< 1281916807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well, any suggestions for the mines? < 1281916812 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue < 1281916819 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't let the fountain in Minetown dry up < 1281916830 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you may or may not want to buy candles at the lighting shop < 1281916833 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1281916836 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, mines, not minetown. < 1281916839 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll need 7 candles eventually < 1281916939 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant fountain. < 1281916941 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm missing a cat. < 1281916964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do gecko corpses spoil? < 1281916976 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know, but they don't count as lizard corpses < 1281917032 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNA < 1281917041 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not in some weird NSFW sense < 1281917059 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks useless < 1281917069 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOu'd hitchhike without a towel? < 1281917076 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but i'm not hitchhiking < 1281917084 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're reference-failing < 1281917096 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what you are referencing < 1281917109 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a reason I'm referencing it < 1281917131 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although one of the uses is covered by the blindfold < 1281917140 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also clean your hands (I think) or your face < 1281917148 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but ... < 1281917171 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't eat it if you didn't see it die < 1281917194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is eating gnome corpses cannibalism? < 1281917199 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1281917201 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1281917361 0 :derdon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1281917419 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are these gems worth anything at all < 1281917424 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are they junk < 1281917428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i test them? < 1281917441 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but even then, I doubt you need them that much < 1281917449 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just keep the known valuables < 1281917452 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1281917492 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure valuable green cal also engrave < 1281917502 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case having written in the dust already causes weirdness < 1281917513 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1281917518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tested that one < 1281917518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ages ago < 1281917520 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in sokoban < 1281917538 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if, if there's writing in the dust, all gems will then write in the dust, making some of the tests you just did worthlesS? < 1281917549 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gas spore, uh oh < 1281917589 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :peaceful white unicorn! < 1281917606 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1281917609 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what gems are for < 1281917621 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1281917645 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Unicorn#Unicorns_and_gems < 1281917658 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sting is among the weakest of artifacts. If you touch it, even if you are of the wrong alignment, it will not blast you unless you are an orc. For all purposes, Sting is only a normal elven dagger, except that it happens to do more damage to orcs and that it cuts through all webs. < 1281917659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1281917669 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1281917733 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: meh < 1281917737 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: does that stuff actually matter at all? < 1281917745 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say Luck matters a lot < 1281917750 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may also be other uses for gems < 1281917757 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm doing well with terrible luck < 1281917762 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i have valuable gems, so there we go < 1281917765 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i throw them at a unicorn? < 1281917777 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask #nethack < 1281917936 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i show my points in the status bar? < 1281917946 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An option perhaps? < 1281917954 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1281917956 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa 4 viewers < 1281918037 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lord < 1281918096 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: is it wise to kill one of those gnomes to eat their corpse, do you think? < 1281918106 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note your HP < 1281918134 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you have a food ration? < 1281918137 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1281918143 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm waiting until i'm weak, no? < 1281918146 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i can get this gnome corpse < 1281918148 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess < 1281918152 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i can save the ration < 1281918201 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that was unfilling < 1281918202 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still hungry < 1281918204 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's bought me some time < 1281918423 0 :relet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1281918471 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how am i doing XD < 1281918484 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very pit-ily < 1281918490 0 :zeotrope!~vib@bas3-kitchener06-1128713308.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1281918492 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no but seriously now. < 1281918497 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1281918505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i avoided exploring that area due to the low light :P < 1281918510 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You still have no reflection < 1281918515 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily < 1281918520 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, no automatic reflection < 1281918534 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : b + a potion of full healing < 1281918560 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :vibhajja < 1281918561 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell. yeah. < 1281918565 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hells. < 1281918593 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that an altar or a fluke? < 1281918601 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be guaranteed altar in Minetown < 1281918610 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wall < 1281918619 0 :vibhajja!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1281918620 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1281918681 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOAS is on the Plane of Water < 1281918690 0 :Gregor-P!~AndChat@70-7-173-218.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281918693 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281918699 0 :Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1281918708 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1281918714 0 :Behold!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :BeholdMyGlory < 1281918723 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to recommend against that < 1281918739 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long until daos ascends? < 1281918757 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUUU < 1281918761 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what just happened? < 1281918766 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you just do? < 1281918769 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I tried to swap my cloak. < 1281918773 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's cursed. < 1281918774 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can't. < 1281918774 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ok < 1281918788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :studded leather armor any good? < 1281918789 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you put on the amulet and it was something you really wanted to take off < 1281918791 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1281918818 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a 82 in 964, or ~8.5%, chance that a randomly spawned armor object will be studded leather armor. < 1281918827 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like good armor < 1281918831 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's that rare < 1281918844 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can drop the small shield, can't i? < 1281918852 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1281918861 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I ever mentioned that I never ascended? < 1281918896 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm nowhere near ascending < 1281919112 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] < 1281919136 0 :zeotrope!~vib@bas3-kitchener06-1128713308.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1281919301 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, flute < 1281919360 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sparkle is confused from hunger < 1281919366 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it eat eggs? :P < 1281919401 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't throw the egg < 1281919401 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: daos astral < 1281919405 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1281919421 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1281919438 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm watching DOAS now < 1281919606 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found out about travel < 1281919611 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't you tell me about this before :P < 1281919660 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried < 1281919684 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1281919687 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: dlvl 7, woot < 1281919699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish ais was here to tell me how badly i'm doing :D < 1281919826 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: My pet strategy: "Okay, let's split up; I'll meet you later." < 1281919839 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: a shop! < 1281919842 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they'll KILL YOU IN REVENGE FOR THE DEAD FELIXES < 1281919847 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minetown? < 1281919858 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1281919860 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like mines to me < 1281919867 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :± a tree < 1281919873 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not look like a tree < 1281919883 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's green < 1281919891 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an altar on minetown < 1281919904 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's coaligned, you'll be able to make holy water < 1281919906 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you get some water < 1281919917 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a fountain < 1281919924 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i uncurse my shit? < 1281919926 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that at an altar < 1281919947 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fountain might have a chance, but at altar you can make holy water < 1281919953 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And check BUC of that amulet < 1281919962 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1281919970 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, holy water only if altar is coaligned < 1281920016 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything i can do with the fountain? < 1281920058 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, not paying attention >.> < 1281920074 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch captain < 1281920075 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281920093 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, did you anger the watch captain? < 1281920098 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of them, yep < 1281920104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my pet started killing a watch person < 1281920105 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i helped < 1281920106 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now ... this < 1281920110 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i fucked? < 1281920119 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check HP < 1281920122 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :63 < 1281920131 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP one of my pets < 1281920133 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Felix < 1281920152 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: praying time soon < 1281920170 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: will zapping that wand i have help? < 1281920449 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how do you engrave id again? < 1281920461 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write some junk in the dust < 1281920466 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with your finger) < 1281920470 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then write using the wand < 1281920475 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be aware that you may go blind < 1281920517 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bugs on the floor speed up! < 1281920518 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wand of Seed Monster < 1281920520 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Speed < 1281920521 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed < 1281920548 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cold < 1281920586 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all of the wands? < 1281920590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1281920601 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I ID those potions somehow? < 1281920604 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without quaffing them. < 1281920732 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea, a shop might help slightly < 1281921279 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1281922181 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1281922198 0 :coppro!~scshunt@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1281922359 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281923500 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi coppro < 1281923559 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are tins any useful? < 1281923561 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*any good? < 1281923562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for food < 1281923570 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends what's in it < 1281923573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1281923574 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1281923576 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't eat while hallucinating < 1281923590 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you can't tell a cockatrice tin from lizard < 1281923599 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1281923602 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And let's just say cockatrice meat isn't that tasty < 1281923759 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: cursed scrolls are a bit useless, right? < 1281923766 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : K - a cursed wand of striking < 1281923771 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's *definitely* useless ... yeah? < 1281923792 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1281923800 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've used it before, haven't you? < 1281923819 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. yeah < 1281923819 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cursed wands usually don't do much different < 1281923839 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cursed striking is certainly fine < 1281923843 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOAS ascended < 1281923858 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: well, /you/ suggest how to lighten my load :) < 1281923881 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: link to the victorydump? < 1281923891 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alt.org/nethack/userdata/DeathOnAStick/dumplog/1264355342.nh343.txt < 1281923910 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol >< < 1281924054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hmm < 1281924061 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cursed amulet is us... no, i can cleanse it < 1281924065 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are daggers heavy? < 1281924087 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1281924091 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1281924095 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281924115 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281924204 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, seriously, I need to drop something. < 1281924523 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I figured out a good self-imposed challenge in You Have to Burn the Rope, but it's actually impossible that way, I think < 1281924592 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to burn the rope has /any/ challenges? < 1281924609 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't use the easy route to the rope... < 1281924618 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the hard route seems impossible, not just hard < 1281924663 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: any tips for lightening my load? < 1281924671 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, any way other than a BoH to get more space in my huge pokcets? < 1281924673 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pockets? < 1281924684 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1281924689 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, don't carry lodestones < 1281924695 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I? < 1281924761 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1281924771 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask #nethack ? < 1281924779 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've asked them enough >_> < 1281924786 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: All that exists is that you have to burn the rope. < 1281924799 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1281924802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the axes that don't do anything. < 1281924811 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YHTBTR difficulty idea: Stay in range of Grinning Colossus for 5min without getting hit once < 1281924811 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you should totally tell me to lose some items < 1281924815 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then burn the rope < 1281924881 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Moot point; you can't die. < 1281924915 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but reset the mental counter when you get it < 1281924917 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hit < 1281924937 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically you're inventing your own game < 1281924937 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1281924965 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Valid, but yeah... < 1281925032 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: telnet termcast.org < 1281925034 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :select alise < 1281925038 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help me be able to work smoothly :P < 1281925043 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or ELSEIF < 1281925136 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, i have five viewers < 1281925226 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may watch SGU now < 1281925231 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are my diluted potions useful? < 1281925236 0 :nooga!~nooga@77-45-52-193.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1281925243 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't get them wet again unless you want water < 1281925243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: here, you're my new official executive advisor >.> < 1281925257 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although they may be less effective diluted, I think < 1281925267 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i need to drop shit. < 1281925484 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: #quit < 1281925547 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: why. < 1281925554 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm doing well < 1281925615 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Narrowly escaped the wraith of the watch < 1281925616 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm a good corrupt executive advisor. < 1281925649 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you should have seen it, i had tons of people in #nethack guiding me through every turn < 1281925652 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i killed a watchman < 1281925657 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then ended up fighting the watch captains < 1281925660 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :escaped a floor up < 1281925661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regained hp < 1281925663 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :went down < 1281925666 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ran past the watch as fast as i could < 1281925668 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :went into a shop < 1281925675 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spent ages /trying to steal things/ and failing < 1281925677 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally stole something < 1281925679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got out < 1281925686 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ran all the way around to the shop, gaggle of watch on my trail < 1281925694 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then with something like 18 HP left < 1281925697 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paid back the shopkeeper < 1281925702 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and spammed elbereth to keep the q off me < 1281925707 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the paying back the shopkeeper pacified the watch) < 1281925715 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Panicked when shopkeeper said that e was after blood, not money < 1281925717 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was a turn or two away from death < 1281925726 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, is shk now letting you in the store? < 1281925730 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be some markup < 1281925736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, i attacked the shk by mistake :D < 1281925739 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hm? < 1281925758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You read: < 1281925758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ElberethElbercthElberethElberethElbere?hElbercthEl?erethElberetwElberethE?bKre < 1281925758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thElberetqElberWthElberc?h|lberetnE < 1281925758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beretrE?be?ethEl5?reth[lbcrethElberet?".--More-- < 1281925767 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try chatting < 1281925772 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1281925778 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing's changed < 1281925781 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i paid him back < 1281925788 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's not angry, huh < 1281925794 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i paid him back, why would he be angry! < 1281925803 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because he was after blood < 1281925805 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's Izchat? < 1281925809 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Izchak? < 1281925813 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :izchak? < 1281925819 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was only after blood because i hit him < 1281925821 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lighting store owner < 1281925821 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i settled with money < 1281925825 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lighting store? < 1281925829 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Candles and stuff < 1281925834 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a lamp which may be magic < 1281925835 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is that? < 1281925844 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be Minetown I think < 1281925879 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Absurd tileset would have NSFW imagery right here < 1281925890 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one on http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Incubus? < 1281925921 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, not that the default tileset is SFW, I guess < 1281925954 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, i'm female < 1281925957 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The incubus murmurs in your ear, while helping you undress.--More-- < 1281925961 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Shall I remove your cloak, lover?" [yn] (n) < 1281925966 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1281925967 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cursed < 1281925979 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if an incubus removes stuff do you get to keep it? < 1281925982 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be some negative effects to sex < 1281925985 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I think < 1281926001 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just let him undress me then < 1281926012 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time stands still while you and the incubus lie in each other's arms...--More-- < 1281926015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The incubus seems to have enjoyed it more than you...--More-- < 1281926016 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You feel drained of energy.--More-- < 1281926019 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The incubus takes 615 zorkmids for services rendered!--More-- < 1281926024 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prostitute :| < 1281926037 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel "drained of energy;" lose all your power and reduce maximum by 1-10; abuse constitution. < 1281926041 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not so good < 1281926044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, did do me a service < 1281926064 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: is ascending to get to that leather armor in lieu of chain mail a good idea? < 1281926070 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1281926218 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise kicks dogs < 1281926329 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1281926331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food poisoning < 1281926382 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vomiting from eating tripe, a rotten egg, or in SporkHack, drinking a potion of salt water. This is quite unreliable, but it's there. < 1281926383 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1281926384 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an old egg < 1281926387 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worth a try, right? < 1281926422 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FoodPois is preventable < 1281926430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's also too late < 1281926434 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let's work on cures right now < 1281928486 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1281928487 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1281928738 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1281929001 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281929101 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone! < 1281929104 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :completethis sequence < 1281929108 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pirates, ninjas, zombies, ... < 1281929491 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :robots. < 1281929957 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything else? :\ < 1281930046 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gremlins. < 1281930053 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1281930079 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghosts < 1281930086 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah! < 1281930108 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aliens < 1281931078 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281932016 0 :sshc_!~sshc@unaffiliated/sshc JOIN :#esoteric < 1281932194 0 :sshc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1281932243 0 :sshc_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sshc < 1281932648 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have found some problem compute !x without using ! (in C). Legal ops: ~ & ^ | + << >> < 1281932670 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did this way, but I don't know if it is consider as cheating: (1&(1<> for this, because none of the other operations can make the LSB depend on any non-LSB of x < 1281933666 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course there are other ways that don't involve variables on the right side, but those ways are longer. < 1281933675 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1&(1< bitsize is portable.. < 1281933845 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* >= bitsize < 1281933869 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know either < 1281934025 0 :ski!~slj@c-3810e055.1149-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1281934349 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1281935368 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is undefined behaviour, so it is not portable < 1281935382 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1281935395 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well as suspected i guess < 1281935680 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k&r says "The result is undefined if the right operand is negative, or greater than < 1281935683 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or equal to the number of bits in the left expression's type. < 1281935687 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1281935784 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm this might mean that there _is_ no portable solution for zzo38's problem < 1281935821 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's zzo38's problem? < 1281935836 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one page up < 1281936022 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given x, x|=x>>1; x|=x>>2; x|=x>>4; ... x|=x>>16; x|=x<<1; x|=x<<2; ... x|=x<<16; x+1; < 1281936041 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not that concise, but it will work < 1281936075 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: how is that portable? note by that i include unknown bitsize < 1281936103 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, then that would be slightly harder < 1281936108 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1281936115 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i imagined it should be a single expression. and , is not allowed. < 1281936115 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any portable way to determine bitsize? < 1281936131 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or assignment operators < 1281936160 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1281936282 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's a _little_ vague what you're allowed to use beside operators :) < 1281936349 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, so is there any simpler way to map non-zeroes and zero to two different values? ;) < 1281936371 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we have multiplication operator available then that may be possible though... < 1281936398 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. what do _those_ do on overflow... < 1281936421 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh < 1281936425 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that matter even + isn't safe with signed types, i hear < 1281936465 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any possible overflow leads to the undefined behavior in ISO C, right? < 1281936484 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't have a copy of the specification right now) < 1281936493 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't really know these things < 1281936562 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just sort of assuming that anything that can reasonably be interpreted in different ways is undefined < 1281936798 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you looked here http://graphics.stanford.edu/~seander/bithacks.html < 1281937003 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: I already have that page open right now, actually. < 1281937110 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure about the overflow leading to undefined behavior? For adding and subtracting, overflow should not result in undefined behavior, as long as you don't use some strange representation with -0 and +0 seperate, but none of that is used anymore < 1281937124 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For multiplication and division, there might be undefined, maybe??? < 1281937192 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some of the things in the bithacks.html I will first think of it myself before following the link and then see if my way is same or not) < 1281937240 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i recall addition and subtraction overflow are undefined for _signed_ values, but not for unsigned ones (those are guaranteed to behave as operators wrt. a modulus iiuc) < 1281937392 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unsigned integers, declared using the keyword unsigned, obey the laws of arithmetic modulo < 1281937394 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2n where n is the number of bits in the representation, and thus arithmetic on unsigned < 1281937398 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantities can never overflow. < 1281937465 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's: 2^n < 1281937493 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Thought so. Later... < 1281937877 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is the description for SDL_Color in English and French? (Does it belong to the Government of Canada????) < 1281938134 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the Canadian version is named SDL_Colour :P < 1281938218 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you are right, if it does belong to the Government of Canada they would do that < 1281938340 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: And LSMD_Couleur. < 1281938450 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is strange though, only that page has french translation < 1281938757 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries changing the font from Fixedsys to Dejavu Sans Mono < 1281938764 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if I actually like this < 1281938962 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: tried inconsolata? < 1281939076 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I remember, I'll try it tomorrow < 1281940092 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does SDL require video in the main thread? < 1281940230 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some way to make it work in a separate thread? < 1281941587 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281941642 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of those event-driven GUI systems also want you to only touch the GUI objects in the GUI thread. < 1281941691 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1281942179 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do it in a separate thread so that it can emulate the DOS screen. < 1281942212 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you want a framebuffer. Have the main thread blit it. < 1281942435 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I want it that the main program can write to the array and then the video program will read it after every frame and redraw the tiles < 1281942458 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just do all SDL-related work in a single thread. < 1281942479 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it for some reason has to be the "main" one, do the "main program" work in some other one. < 1281942489 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... So you want a framebuffer written from one thread and read from a different one. < 1281942503 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1281942541 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that if you write it not synchronized properly, it will even cause flashy stuff like as if you have like a QBASIC program: DO : LOCATE 1,1 : ? CHR$(219); : LOCATE 1,1 : ? CHR$(32); : LOOP < 1281942613 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, don't add any mutexes or such in, then. < 1281943913 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why did you choose to use square brackets to denote sets in hyper set language? < 1281943931 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conventionally curly brackets are used < 1281944011 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: Well, I just did. In esoteric programming it doesn't really matter though..... It can be designed to use whatever kind of brackets you want it to use, whether it is conventional or not. < 1281944606 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this optimized? *p++=((charset[b*14+a]>>@4)<<7)+c; < 1281944612 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it even correct? < 1281944652 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose there is still a problem, it does not deal with blinking text (as in CGA text mode) < 1281944769 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an @? < 1281944814 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: Yes there is a @ sign in there, the @ signs indicate Enhanced CWEB commands. @4 is the command for how many times this chunk has been used in the program before < 1281944863 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I missed a C operator :) < 1281944944 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: You didn't miss a C operator. The at sign is not a C operator. < 1281945006 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya, I got that, it's a CWEB feature < 1281945036 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: It is not a feature in normal CWEB, some features are specific to Enhanced CWEB only. < 1281945077 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about CWEB except that it is knuth's literate C < 1281945174 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other @ commands include: @= is verbatim text, @ space is start new section, @* is start new section in table of contents, @^ is index entry, @3 is chunk parameter, @d is a C preprocessor macro automatically moved to the top, @i is include file, @m defines a metamacro, @- invokes a metamacro, @r is a make rule, @< is a chunk name, there are more < 1281945215 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems useful < 1281945249 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the LaTeX support < 1281945259 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones which are specific to Enhanced CWEB are: @r @m @- @) @3 @4 @$ < 1281945281 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: Enhanced CWEB does not use LaTeX though, it uses Plain TeX only. < 1281945411 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it compare to tools that are language agnostic like noweb < 1281945470 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enhanced CWEB contains many specific features for C programming, so it is useful for C programming (it can also be used with C++). < 1281945483 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written a language agnostic tool as well, though, called "yesweb". < 1281945513 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Have you used noweb?) < 1281945552 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1281945593 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you used yesweb? < 1281945595 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably going to try it (someday) though < 1281945599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1281945600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1281945622 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, never used it either < 1281945642 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only literate programming I've done was in literate haskell < 1281945644 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote yesweb entirely in TeX. < 1281945671 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1281945685 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: And Literate Haskell is sort of a fake kind of literate programming, in a way < 1281945704 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/WYAa (yesweb.tex) < 1281945751 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you might be able to see, it involves category codes a lot. < 1281945820 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suprisingly small and readable < 1281945878 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The \catcode32=9\endlinechar=-1 allows you to write more readable programs in TeX. < 1281945892 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Literate Haskell is more something that *can be used* for literate programming. < 1281945902 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that is the command to make whitespace insignificant. < 1281945934 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you could just use it for something headache-inducing, like having two seperate programs in a single file, instead. < 1281945937 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always thought programming in TeX involved some sadism < 1281945954 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeotrope: Only minor amounts. < 1281946206 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few strangeness compared from other program language, because TeX is a typesetting system, but it can still be done, as you can see the codes. < 1281946264 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1281946269 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesweb does both tangle and weave in the same time. If you run TeX with it, it will perform both operations. < 1281946272 0 :MizardX!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1281946313 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And people often say my programs are surprisingly small. So therefore it is not that much surprise...... < 1281946541 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :portability is a concern when using such tools < 1281946557 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could extract the source first < 1281946736 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enhanced CWEB consists of three programs, CTANGLE, CWEAVE, CSPIDER. (CSPIDER can be used instead of makefiles. It processes the same .w files as the other programs do, but ignores anything other than @r commands) (Except that @m @- @i are processed by the preprepreprocessor, which is common to all three programs.) < 1281946787 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CWEAVE prints out lines with @r as verbatim text in a box, but with an integral sign at the left, so that you know it is a make rule instead of a C code. < 1281946893 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1281946893 0 :coppro!~scshunt@unaffiliated/scshunt JOIN :#esoteric < 1281946893 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1281946893 0 :coppro!~scshunt@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1281947297 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1281947299 0 :coppro_!~scshunt@nat/uwaterloo/x-atslpfeslejjxfix JOIN :#esoteric < 1281947344 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1281947374 0 :coppro_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :coppro < 1281947392 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1281947392 0 :coppro!~scshunt@unaffiliated/scshunt JOIN :#esoteric < 1281948115 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1281948205 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But metamacro codes are seem somewhat like TECO or Cthulhu.194 < 1281948348 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Cthulhu.194 is IRC server script, in case you didn't know) < 1281948585 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1281948701 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: could you please explain how this computes successors of a number: {#|[#]} < 1281948788 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. # is the number, so that means the set containing all elements of # and also # itself. < 1281948802 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is often how natural numbers are expressed using sets. < 1281948815 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that explanation good enough? < 1281948828 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, {#|[#]} 5 = {5,5} ? < 1281948874 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1281948887 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1281948895 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the multiset {{5} {5,2}} < 1281948898 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not quite right < 1281948947 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In set notation, it is 0={} 1={0} 2={0,1}={{},{{}}} 3={0,1,2}={{},{{}},{{},{{}}}} etc < 1281948974 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sure there is some Wikipedia page explaining this way of representing natural numbers as sets. < 1281948997 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set-theoretic_definition_of_natural_numbers < 1281949021 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that one. < 1281949022 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok, so it is basically that definition < 1281949128 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also described in section 6.2.1 of [[Natural number]] < 1281950736 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281951464 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1281951581 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1281951695 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281951750 0 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1281951974 0 :derdon!~quassel@p5B3E3F3D.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281952013 0 :cheater109!~cheater@p5B216E52.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281952078 0 :cheater1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1281954794 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-4-144.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281954968 0 :zeotrope!~vib@bas3-kitchener06-1128713308.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1281958411 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: New quit message. Entering 2006 in style. < 1281961013 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1281961027 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281961086 0 :nooga!~nooga@77-45-52-193.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1281961519 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281961567 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281962501 0 :ineiros_!~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1281962600 0 :ineiros_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1281963177 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ineiros_ < 1281963245 0 :ineiros!~itniemin@cs27065016.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1281963964 0 :ineiros_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1281964090 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1281964900 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281964938 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281965150 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-4-144.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281967103 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281967215 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1281968178 0 :alise!~alise@91.104.239.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281968921 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281969107 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281969454 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds a random reference to fizzie on the interwebs < 1281969594 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it to fizzie fizzie or just any old fizzie? < 1281969618 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless there's another Heikki Kallasjoki going around calling themselves "fizban" in the past, it's you. < 1281969647 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is, though you never know nowadays. Clones, you see. < 1281969650 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack.ubiquitous.eu.org, in a list of NetHack servers; supposedly administrated by you. < 1281969658 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I ran one for a while. < 1281969659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dead, naturally. < 1281969687 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But ow, look how *ugly* the site is: http://www.nethack.de/ < 1281969700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should sue them for defamation by association with horrible web design. < 1281969712 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember seeing it before; it is indeed remarkably ugly. < 1281969744 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION concludes that he has no idea which server "NEU" is. < 1281969759 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You are visitor No. Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 41943040 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 67 bytes) in /home/rg40226web1/public_html/nethack.de/htdocs/counter.phtml on line 94 since the launch of www.nethack.de in September 1999" < 1281969763 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an interesting number. < 1281969807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from the generalisation of the surreal numbers < 1281969816 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to find something that /isn't/ a number there... < 1281969849 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about NEU; but NAO had an EC2 instance in Europe, I'm not sure if it's still up. < 1281969871 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they meant that. Hmm. < 1281969883 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, what's wrong with just running NetHack locally and sending it to termcast in realtime? < 1281969898 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just the same for everyone watching, unless you think I've managed to cheat and /still/ do that badly. < 1281969899 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't get other people's bones. (Well, unless you run Hearse.) < 1281969915 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I really care, though? :p < 1281969925 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's the score tables, and they've got some useful patches pre-applied. < 1281969936 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but, but, the LAG! < 1281969936 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And permanent-ish logs of all the mistakes you make. :p < 1281970096 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, that's some hitpoints: < 1281970096 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milleria the Mage St:18 Dx:25 Co:16 In:25 Wi:25 Ch:18 Chaotic S:116620402 < 1281970097 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Astral Plane $:0 HP:1098643358(1098643358) Pw:454878184(454878184) AC:-121 Exp:30 T:591084 < 1281970135 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you see DeathOnAStick's ascension? < 1281970152 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching someone blow a magic whistle for about 30 minutes nonstop has never been so mind-numbingly bori^W^Wfun < 1281970156 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I sort-of followed the summary here. < 1281970171 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :giants hate picking up bags, it seems < 1281970555 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For time-wasting fun, I sometimes read the bottom end of http://alt.org/nethack/topdeaths.html < 1281970596 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  killed by a fire elemental of Chih Sung-tzu, while praying < 1281970617 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha: killed by a tiger, while vomiting < 1281970632 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hobbit, while unconscious from rotten food" < 1281970638 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very elaborate, sometimes. < 1281970653 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: sounds like quite a party1 < 1281970656 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/1/!/ < 1281970700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you can tame Pestilence; what about the other three? < 1281970720 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, I'm just imagining someone ascending with the four horsemen of the apocalypse... < 1281970747 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess the others are equally tamable. < 1281970756 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweeeeeet < 1281971226 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They all have the same level (30); I'm not sure what else would affect the resist() check there. < 1281971246 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Incidentally, the mail daemon demon is level 56.) < 1281971309 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1281971609 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I'm not sure if you can tame Death. < 1281971636 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The magic resistance of all the riders means you can't tame them with magical means normally, except until after you've level-drained them enough. But Death is drain-resistant. < 1281971667 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I got IBMgraphics in xterm. < 1281971717 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to play with IBMgraphics through one of them filters, I don't recall what it was. There were some half-solutions that did walls and such right, but not completely everything. < 1281971724 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using konwert. < 1281971730 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, uh, I like DECgraphics perfectly well. < 1281971748 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, konwert doesn't break DECgraphics. < 1281971837 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, the rogue level with IBMgraphics on was problematic in some systems. I think konwert is what I used, too. < 1281972044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071229043809/nethack/images/8/8d/Xterm-ibm-oracle.png < 1281972046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay halfintegrals < 1281972301 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1281972320 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281972654 0 :Killerkid!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1281972824 0 :cpressey!~CPressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281973019 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Famine and Pestilence can be tamed by draining some levels from them and then repeatedly casting charm monster. -- Death is immune to level drain, and hence cannot be tamed in this way." Aw. < 1281973083 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281973404 0 :Killerkid!~l1am9111@host86-180-62-251.range86-180.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281973813 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There appears to be a Slash'EM workaround. And even in NetHack you can green-slime Death to get a tame "the green slime formerly known as Death" (maybe you could name it that), but it's still not the same.) < 1281974355 0 :Flonk!~chatzilla@188-22-126-67.adsl.highway.telekom.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1281974362 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day < 1281974963 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mate < 1281976591 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you can't tame yourself! < 1281976597 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1281976617 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I know you can tame Pestilence; what about the other three? < 1281976636 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (There appears to be a Slash'EM workaround. And even in NetHack you can green-slime Death to get a tame "the green slime formerly known as Death" (maybe you could name it that), but it's still not the same.) < 1281976641 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you change that back into death? < 1281976657 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said other three, presumably riders < 1281976670 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281976671 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and? < 1281976684 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At that point in the game, you are War. < 1281976721 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's just Death, Famine and Pestilence you could tame. And apparently Death is a no go too. < 1281976746 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Famine and Pestilence can both be tamed < 1281976881 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: what channel? < 1281976897 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you become war? awesome < 1281976907 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's pretty implied. < 1281976918 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But monst.c has a comment: /* Riders -- the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse ("War" == player) */ < 1281976936 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: termcast the game < 1281976973 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: script -f >(echo 'hello Sgeo ' | nc -q5 noway.ratry.ru 31337 >/dev/null) < 1281976977 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: then just "nethack" < 1281976992 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's on NAO < 1281977006 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on NAO, but not this second < 1281977007 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hold on < 1281977026 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I'm on NAO < 1281977028 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :connected < 1281977032 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not very far in the game :P < 1281977038 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even less far than me >_> < 1281977043 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh you have more useful stuff < 1281977044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the looks of it < 1281977053 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Slash'EM workaround for a tame Death seems to be to polyself into a "genetic engineer", which can hit people and cause a temporary polymorph ("undergo a freakish metamorphosis"); then you whack Death, tame the resulting critter, and it'll revert back to a tame Death. < 1281977068 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :v - a cursed rusty pearl ring named noncursed < 1281977073 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so ... can you tame green-slime death then polymorph him into death? < 1281977076 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: lol < 1281977095 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it does make sense to call your soft gems soft < 1281977105 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry about that < 1281977109 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1281977110 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't polymorph things into Death, I don't think. < 1281977122 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: bah < 1281977128 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you pick up another gem, you'll instantly see whether it's soft < 1281977167 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How'd that spellbook get blanked :( < 1281977172 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION growls < 1281977191 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1281977256 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I'm scared of the throne room < 1281977267 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: get a pet < 1281977271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go in there < 1281977273 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conga line of death < 1281977274 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1281977359 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: or just go in there < 1281977359 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1281977363 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's no biggie < 1281977366 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can easily flee < 1281977370 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a staircase right next to it < 1281977406 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't go fully in mind, just let them see you < 1281977407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then tretreat out < 1281977411 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*retreat < 1281977414 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll follow, etc < 1281977416 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*etc. < 1281977426 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can fight from there < 1281977458 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: after killing the bugbear i'd retreat to get hp < 1281977462 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come ON < 1281977466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did not need to elbereth there < 1281977503 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not going to 100.? < 1281977505 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I have a nice door now < 1281977511 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're burdened, btw < 1281977528 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1281977530 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest 100. for restoring hp :P < 1281977541 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol at hefty lichen corpse < 1281977560 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lichen corpse that broke the adventurer's back < 1281977595 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a coward :D < 1281977602 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go up there and fight melee like a man < 1281977614 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF am I killing/ < 1281977616 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281977620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows, but stop it < 1281977628 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't helping :P < 1281977629 0 :ineiros!~itniemin@cs27065016.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1281977654 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call a spade a spade < 1281977658 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call a murky potion momentary vision < 1281977682 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks Rodney-bot! < 1281977690 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: 100., run in < 1281977692 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem solved < 1281977699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't retreat to 100., that's what COWARDS do. < 1281977702 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1281977704 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HP,man < 1281977707 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*HP, man < 1281977710 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd 100. :P < 1281977720 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okayyy < 1281977761 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized I don't need to be in the throne room < 1281977814 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you scared of melee or something :D < 1281977848 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! < 1281977852 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the idea would be to loot the box and sit on the throne ... < 1281977860 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281977862 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1281977881 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi alise < 1281977890 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I got on the /really/ bad side of the Minetown Watch with bad luck and somehow still survived. < 1281977900 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, wand < 1281977920 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: impressive < 1281977929 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, remind me that my gem collection is on entrance to sokoban? < 1281977933 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Okay. < 1281977948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: One of my numerous pets started attacking a watchman, so I decided to help it. Bad idea. The whole watch starts chasing me, I fight them in vain, lose a few pets, flee upstairs. Ask #nethack. A plan is formed. < 1281977993 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, crud you < 1281977997 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: After I restore my HP, I go back down, and sneak into the general store, taking quite a bit of damage from the watch while I'm at it. I try, numerous times, to steal something, failing each time and at one point digging out of the store. Finally, I manage to steal something, and escape the store. < 1281978022 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I scramble to get back into the shop, running away from the Watch, and accidentally attack him. I try to pay; he wants blood, but he settles for my money, which I give him. < 1281978039 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: This pacifies the Watch completely. I spam Elbereth to defend myself from the nearby q, then wait five billion turns to get my HP back. < 1281978045 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one of my pets survived. < 1281978046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE END < 1281978049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Eh! < 1281978054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: It can't be too bad, can it? :P < 1281978059 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1281978065 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank Magicbane it wasn't! < 1281978076 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1281978086 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know if Magicbane blocked it, or was the target < 1281978088 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tl;dr if the watch is angry because you killed one of them, steal a bunch of shit from a shop, destroy its walls, attack the shopkeeper, and then give him a bit of money; they'll like you again. < 1281978102 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Malignant aura, so presumably Magicbane is damaged. < 1281978106 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: did you figure that trick out for yourself? or find it in a spoiler? < 1281978106 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> <.< < 1281978118 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: #nethack devised it as a plan, but there was a fair bit of improv from me < 1281978129 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and magicbane has a 95% resistance to curses when wielded < 1281978132 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, You feel a malignant aura surround the magic-absorbing blade. < 1281978142 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#nethack said "steal from a shop then pay it back"; after that, it was basically trying various ways to steal < 1281978143 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means it wasn't affected < 1281978145 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1281978153 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes on termcast < 1281978174 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now I'm at level 10 (thanks, incubus), got rid of that cursed stuff, am a bit low on food, and stuff. < 1281978176 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still in the mines < 1281978189 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a piece of food (corpse named Shaggy Dog)" < 1281978191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP, kitten < 1281978207 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, I'm in a pit, trying to get my new pet dog, Moof, to follow me. < 1281978233 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, moof, come on, it's just a pit < 1281978234 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :walk over it < 1281978252 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: /can/ dogs get over pits? < 1281978279 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1281978286 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a pickaxe handy, you can dig round it < 1281978301 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soko time! < 1281978305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't, i have a wand of digging though < 1281978306 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this stage in the mines you should have a pickaxe, by the way < 1281978308 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might that help? < 1281978312 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: noted; i don't < 1281978315 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: perhaps i'll find one < 1281978323 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can move diag in soko? < 1281978328 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1281978331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: a fruit? you're /boring/ < 1281978347 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err wait... maybe you can if you don't move round anything>? < 1281978358 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget < 1281978384 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can definitely move diagonally around enemies < 1281978396 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can i dig around a pit with the wand of digging? I've never used it before < 1281978416 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yes, if you're not in the pit at the time < 1281978425 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only need to destroy one square orthogonally next to the pit < 1281978435 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moof is killed! You stop waiting. < 1281978437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then pets can walk round < 1281978437 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1281978442 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should engrave-test < 1281978473 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, that corpse is recent < 1281978474 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no it isn't < 1281978476 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food poisoning < 1281978482 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prayed ... pretty recently to cure food poisoning < 1281978486 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any suggestions? >_< < 1281978497 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(stupid things dying where a corpse already is and leaving no corpse) < 1281978505 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unihorn? < 1281978553 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, no. < 1281978557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my supplies are ... dismal < 1281978561 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd get more, but it turns out minetown is shit. < 1281978567 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the delicatessen had, like, three things in it! < 1281978573 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1281978581 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're quite possibly screwed < 1281978593 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: nope < 1281978596 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :potions of full healing < 1281978603 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1281978606 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell do i have 3, anyway? they were just lying around! < 1281978607 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you just drink one then < 1281978611 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot i had them < 1281978615 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll cure the poisoning < 1281978624 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1281978627 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two wands, both of which are one of make invis/teleport/cancel < 1281978661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: is there likely to be a pickaxe lying around? < 1281978678 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that Wooble is onto the endgame < 1281978692 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bear trap closes on your foot! < 1281978723 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a harp < 1281978764 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it safe to apply it now to see whether it's magic? < 1281978768 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it not last long enough? < 1281978770 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is getting better at vi keys < 1281978835 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he is < 1281978848 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: magic harps have charges < 1281978864 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough? < 1281978872 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooble feels mildly hot. < 1281978892 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone's criticising his gameplay in #nethack :D < 1281978930 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You start playing the harp. The harp twangs. < 1281978930 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1281978939 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: should i worry about being burdened? < 1281978951 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yes, it slows all your actions < 1281978954 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crud < 1281978960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 25%, IIRC < 1281978963 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drop some gems? < 1281978967 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite a crippling penalty, if you think about it < 1281978999 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then: **STASH on dlvl 8 mines, topleft corner < 1281979013 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: do i /have/ gems? < 1281979023 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what are rings good for? < 1281979026 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't used one once... < 1281979039 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: they give permanent and minor benefits (or penalties) while worn < 1281979048 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some are really dangerous, but most are moderately useful < 1281979062 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah crap < 1281979080 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the uncursed ones are all useful, right? < 1281979093 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even detrimental rings can be uncursed < 1281979098 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1281979098 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the dangerous ones are unpredictable < 1281979101 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any way to ID them? < 1281979102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in that case, you can take them off again if you figure out they're dangerous < 1281979105 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll of ID < 1281979107 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You won't know it's dangerous until it's too late though < 1281979109 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dropping duplicates down a sink < 1281979121 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :price-ID can help to some extent, but I normally don't bother < 1281979150 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it worth just stashing all my rings? < 1281979155 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what my scrolls are < 1281979160 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm not using any of the rings < 1281979161 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I'm < 1281979168 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stash rings if you aren't using them, yes < 1281979171 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to price-ID identify < 1281979197 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so price ID them in minetown first? < 1281979200 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1281979209 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there's anywhere selling rings in minetown ... < 1281979270 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or will the general store id them? < 1281979387 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1281979516 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dcss makes me dizzy < 1281979518 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear golum < 1281979525 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get away from the boulder < 1281979529 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna force bolt you < 1281979539 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fight it dammit < 1281979561 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1281979647 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w00t < 1281979709 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how it's so boring that it walks around for you < 1281979745 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably go eat food now < 1281979746 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRL < 1281979787 0 :nooga!~nooga@77-45-52-193.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1281979843 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, can i price-id rings in minetown? < 1281979863 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you find a shop that buys them, yes < 1281979866 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't angry < 1281979868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :general stores will work < 1281979886 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: amusingly, straight after that kerfuffle with the watch and the shop, the shk started liking me again < 1281979912 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um ... can you connect to my termcast for a second? < 1281979913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's a bug exploit < 1281979919 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm very close to YASD < 1281979927 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should not have attacked it without looking it up < 1281979934 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, leocrotta < 1281979939 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw the best-quality Elbereth you can < 1281979944 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a wand of fire handy? < 1281979948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i have a potion of full healing < 1281979953 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be rather good to quaff with 3hp, right? < 1281979957 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or lightning < 1281979958 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or will it get to attack me before i quaff it? < 1281979959 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, you'll last one turn agains it < 1281979961 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*against it < 1281979966 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's your turn now < 1281979969 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the quaffing will be the next thing that happens < 1281979980 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lasting more than one turn < 1281979984 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, no longer burdened, so it can't hit you as quickly < 1281979986 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*turn. < 1281979997 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably kill it from there, actually < 1281980004 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a magic missile :P < 1281980009 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and COLD < 1281980023 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1281980024 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :teleportation < 1281980029 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be rather clever, right? < 1281980034 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i save it? < 1281980105 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did alise attack? < 1281980114 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leocrotta < 1281980123 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, what should I do? < 1281980128 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are any of my wands useful? < 1281980156 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a wiki page < 1281980162 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cold and teleport may both be useful < 1281980167 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to wiki < 1281980176 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the leocrotta isn't /that/ dangerous < 1281980182 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: erm, i was almost full health < 1281980183 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hit it thrice < 1281980183 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as you're on high HP < 1281980186 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was down to 3hp < 1281980186 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281980191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe four times < 1281980193 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or five, but point is < 1281980196 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it is dangerous to me < 1281980203 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure attack wands will hurt it more than just melee combat < 1281980203 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and look at the armour i have < 1281980204 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and excalibur < 1281980208 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Yeah. < 1281980223 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok, how's this idea: teleport a little way from it, zap it with my wand of magic thingy or cold < 1281980229 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :teleport isn't controlled < 1281980229 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cold < 1281980231 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :appears to be effective < 1281980231 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you land somewhere at random < 1281980234 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah < 1281980239 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, teleport, go close to it, zap it with cold < 1281980243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i zap it with cold now, then flee? < 1281980243 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you have a ring of teleport control < 1281980249 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say zap first < 1281980269 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was easy < 1281980274 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it was injured from your attacks before < 1281980277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably only had a few hp left < 1281980278 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tasty corpse? < 1281980282 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :edible < 1281980291 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't give any resistances or anything like that < 1281980307 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck! < 1281980308 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cockatrice < 1281980310 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ewll < 1281980310 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1281980311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chickatrice < 1281980318 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do i have to do, avoid it? < 1281980322 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've forgotten < 1281980329 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a dead lizard? < 1281980336 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I keep reminding you about? < 1281980336 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.# < 1281980338 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no. < 1281980339 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: look < 1281980344 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there were ANY DAMN LIZARDS around < 1281980346 0 :cal153!~cal@c-24-4-207-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281980347 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would kill one and keep its corpse < 1281980349 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there aren't/. < 1281980351 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*aren't. < 1281980353 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, there was one, but you ate it < 1281980358 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was before you said that < 1281980383 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can kill it from a distance < 1281980389 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: will it try and walk up to me < 1281980390 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1281980398 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1281980405 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c < 1281980405 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1281980406 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.@ < 1281980407 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can E it or something < 1281980407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1281980408 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c < 1281980409 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.- < 1281980410 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.@ < 1281980417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you mean elbereth? < 1281980418 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1281980434 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281980450 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHICKATRICE RIGHT NEXT TO ME < 1281980455 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELBERETHELBERETHELBERETHELBERETHELBERETHELBERETHELBERETHELBERETHELBERETH < 1281980466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't leaving < 1281980472 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't engrave multiple at once < 1281980475 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i hit it with a lance if it's right next to me? is that safe? < 1281980477 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I'm not < 1281980478 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just keep engraving one at a time < 1281980483 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitting it is safe < 1281980497 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that it has a small chance when attacking you of inducing stoning < 1281980501 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's at distance zero? < 1281980505 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It keeps looking like I screwed up Sokoban, but I don't think I have < 1281980518 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you're fine < 1281980523 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't touch the corpse < 1281980541 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's MORE of them! < 1281980566 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also do you have a potion of acid? < 1281980577 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: nope -- "Too close!" says the lance < 1281980581 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have potions, i don't think any are acid < 1281980589 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have full healing < 1281980593 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will that save me from stoning? < 1281980610 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing Soko without spoilers is fun! < 1281980619 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you can just attack rather than apply the lance < 1281980635 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, full ehealing wont' save you < 1281980638 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :attack with lance, or will excalibur be ok too? < 1281980647 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew, it's fleeing < 1281980649 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@92.233.174.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281980678 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if that crappy Battleships program can support the SMBC strategy. < 1281980688 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any weapon < 1281980694 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long as you don't attack barehanded < 1281980702 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MORE NETHACK? < 1281980731 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there's three chickatrices very close together; how unlucky am I?! < 1281980732 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes < 1281980738 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also -- does praying cure stoning? < 1281980739 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: not very, they come in packs < 1281980741 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1281980747 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1281980749 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to move < 1281980750 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1281980753 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The chickatrice misses. The chickatrice touches you! < 1281980755 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIEEE < 1281980756 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELBERETH < 1281980759 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're fine < 1281980761 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't hiss < 1281980766 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I know, but STILL. < 1281980768 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap < 1281980782 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Broke some nymph's mirror < 1281980786 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms < 1281980793 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least I'm not in mortal stony danger < 1281980795 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even hissing, you still have a 9/10 chance of survivin < 1281980811 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it's the new moon, iirc? < 1281980827 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG MORE COCKATRI < 1281980879 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: is it safe just to run, then? < 1281980908 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: Please don't die because I haven't been paying attention to nutrition < 1281980919 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yes < 1281981009 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chickatrice corpses are bad, right? < 1281981011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reaaally bad < 1281981018 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends < 1281981023 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have gloves, they make a powerful weapon < 1281981032 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1281981032 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therwise, stay away < 1281981034 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, back to minetown < 1281981035 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't, RIP Felix... erm, Alise < 1281981057 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281981069 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not /another/ incubus! < 1281981070 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281981073 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's safe to walk over them if you are not blind btw < 1281981075 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much stamina does it think i have? < 1281981095 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sex and cockatrices don't mix < 1281981104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< I'm trying to kill you! That is not how to interpret my whacks! < 1281981106 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALthough you're not weilding a c, so I guess it's ok < 1281981109 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rapist < 1281981121 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't just steal my money! Sheesh < 1281981150 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You read: "E|berethElbe???hFl|e et?E||?rethLlber? hEl e?cth|l?ercth_lbcre < 1281981150 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wElber th??|KrethE|berctc[l|c?WthElberc?h|?bcr?tnE berc?rE?|e etnEl5?r?th? < 1281981150 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|?rc?hE|| ret".--More-- < 1281981159 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ^ from the Great q Avoidance of Post-Whenever I Pacified the Guard < 1281981172 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1281981180 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so once I get a ring's price, how can I ID it based on that? < 1281981196 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clippy! < 1281981211 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.roy.org/clippy/clippy.pl < 1281981218 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, might be a bit old < 1281981224 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know if it's 3.4.3 or not < 1281981249 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use the wikihack page < 1281981264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even Sgeo_ can't endorse his very own wiki on matters of rings! < 1281981271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :charisma? /dumb < 1281981283 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i have that don't i < 1281981285 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 of them < 1281981291 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type, do i put in "ring" here? < 1281981292 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the colour too? < 1281981298 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think just = < 1281981335 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ynaq] < 1281981337 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what a is < 1281981340 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or q < 1281981342 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all < 1281981348 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and q = quit, or cancel < 1281981355 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's basically just "yes to all", "no to all" < 1281981409 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.roy.org/clippy/clippy.pl?charisma=7&type==&price=50&desc=&price_type=sell < 1281981412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not terribly specific ... < 1281981424 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the types < 1281981426 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1281981429 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently my ring doesn't exist < 1281981430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's moonstone < 1281981446 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :descriptions are randomized < 1281981451 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't base it off of that < 1281981478 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if it says *x and it IS x, < 1281981482 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean it's definitely that one? < 1281981498 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1281981513 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shouldn't even bother saying *x < 1281981537 0 :Gregor-P!~AndChat@72-62-148-86.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281981537 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wow, that IDing was utterly useless < 1281981544 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were like 10 possibilities for each price < 1281981549 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's standard < 1281981550 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just stashing all of these < 1281981560 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1281981562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can check through the possibilities to see if there's anything dangerous, though < 1281981562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The incubus is back for mre < 1281981563 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more < 1281981564 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wear the ring if not < 1281981567 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How horny can he be?! < 1281981570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the ... fourth time, I think < 1281981610 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Mr. h: Fuck off < 1281981632 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"your senses are dulled;" wisdom reduces by 1 and is abused. < 1281981633 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**sigh** < 1281981651 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is there an easy way to stop a foocobus? < 1281981660 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg, a wraith! < 1281981663 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill it first < 1281981671 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started undressing me as soon as i walked into it. < 1281981681 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1281981682 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I kill this h? < 1281981686 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wraith didn't leave a corpse < 1281981687 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :barrow wright < 1281981694 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walk into main dungeon and pick up a few rocks to throw? < 1281981705 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You stop waiting. You feel very attracted to the incubus.--More-- < 1281981707 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: see? < 1281981725 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you want it to be /your/ turn when it gets next to you < 1281981730 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you wait when it's two squares away < 1281981758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was waiting without knowing there was another incubus coming < 1281981765 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You feel drained of energy.--More-- < 1281981769 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKING FUCKSHIT < 1281981774 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate incubi. < 1281981798 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are succubi this pesky? :p < 1281981806 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on gender < 1281981813 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**NOTE TO SELF: No stash in that level of the mines, I lied; it's on minetown. Rings. =, you know. < 1281981817 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i mean for males < 1281981830 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281981853 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it weird that the watch doesn't care if you kill innocents. < 1281981862 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wants to murder you if you so much as steal one thing from a shop. < 1281981865 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*want < 1281981887 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, I just got $745 from the incubus < 1281981889 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that < 1281981919 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how useful are lamps etc.? < 1281981929 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: they're useful early in the mines < 1281981935 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also in the very late game < 1281981939 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the time, you don't care < 1281981979 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is dlvl 7 early in the mines? < 1281981991 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Candles are useful late in the game < 1281982003 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, and by useful, I mean you literally can't win without them < 1281982005 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why is the delicatessen so pathetic in this minetown? < 1281982014 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :three wide, two high < 1281982018 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :delis are always pathetic < 1281982022 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the items is a fortune cookie < 1281982025 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other is tin < 1281982030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anywhere better to stock up on food around here? < 1281982039 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: right, but there's no point buying a candle at this point, yeah? < 1281982049 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the mines? deathdrops is the real main point < 1281982055 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you are aware that you need 7 candles in order to win? < 1281982060 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't come up until much later, though < 1281982079 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, I'm aware now < 1281982087 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't need to buy them now, right? < 1281982090 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there'll be lighting shops later? < 1281982092 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you can leave them for later < 1281982098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's only one lighting shop in the whole game < 1281982112 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shopkeeper, Izchak, is named after one of the original developers, who died of cancer < 1281982170 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, good to know, I guess? < 1281982175 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP and all that < 1281982250 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I guess I'll buy them now and stash. < 1281982253 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, candles matter, not lamps, right? < 1281982255 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can handle darkly-lit mines. < 1281982264 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it, it's just the candles that matter < 1281982292 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are only 11 items absolutely necessary in order to win: 7 of them are candles) < 1281982334 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-P: mind going in #sxmc and explaining what HackuckOO is all about? < 1281982373 0 :Gregor-W!836b416f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.65.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281982377 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what are the others? < 1281982386 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what happens if those seven candles are somehow lost? < 1281982394 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can always wish for more in an emergency < 1281982397 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pudding-farm < 1281982404 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they generate randomly, but rarely < 1281982436 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the others: silver bell/Bell of Opening; Candelabrum of Invocation (to which you need to attach the candles); papyrus book/Book of the Dead < 1281982443 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Amulet of Yendor, ofc < 1281982481 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it safe to stash < 1281982483 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1281982494 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, should be < 1281982503 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're pretty light; normally, I just put them in my bag < 1281982503 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i need to find a pet < 1281982508 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't have a bag < 1281982511 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately. < 1281982513 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1281982551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where can i obtain one? < 1281982561 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I tame all d? < 1281982565 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly foxes? < 1281982574 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: no, just dogs < 1281982583 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP fox < 1281982584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Minetown's a common place, or elsewhere in the mines < 1281982590 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have to stumble across them by chance < 1281982612 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I attempt to kill a unicorn at some point? < 1281982615 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wand of magic missile that an orc used, funfun < 1281982615 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how? < 1281982619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: whack it < 1281982632 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once died to a unicorn < 1281982637 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, don't again. < 1281982643 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there isn't one in minetown, alas < 1281982661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm scared to head down; there's cockachicks there < 1281982723 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, any advice on unicorn killing? < 1281982736 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: being faster than the unicorn helps < 1281982741 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, beartraps will hold them in place < 1281982747 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively, move to a no-tele level < 1281982752 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's winning, run; the unicorn will run too < 1281982770 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm faster, but I am on no-tele < 1281982777 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281982780 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wacked it in melee and killed it easily ... < 1281982783 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281982795 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: killing unicorns is good, for the horn < 1281982799 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they hit really hard < 1281982803 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do? < 1281982805 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 63hp < 1281982809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yep < 1281982837 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :28. In Genesis 1:6-8, we are told that one of God's first creations was a firmament in the heavens. This likely refers to the creation of the luminiferous aether. < 1281982843 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--Conservapedia, "Counterexamples to Relativity". < 1281982856 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maximum batshit-craziness level attained. < 1281982879 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bahahahaha < 1281982890 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, should I attack given my low-HPness/ < 1281982897 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: no < 1281982903 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1281982919 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1281982922 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais considered your question so boring he left < 1281982924 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1281982926 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, it was my quote < 1281982935 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minkowski space is predicated on the idea of four-dimensional vectors of which one component is time. However, one of the properties of a vector space is that every vector have an inverse. Time cannot be a vector because it has no inverse. < 1281982936 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what? < 1281982981 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....how did I successfully write Elbereth while blind? < 1281982998 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use your finger while blind ... < 1281983327 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo_: killing unicorns is good, for the horn <-- 1) only non-aligned ones 2) they are hard to reach, considering their movement pattern < 1281983806 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers RDF, a twinge of pain < 1281983820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch! < 1281983919 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remembering things can be bad for you/ < 1281983921 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you. < 1281984053 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to remember N3, too, as an analgesic, but this doesn't really work < 1281984062 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*work. < 1281984315 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl29-2-0-cust326.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281984334 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I had an idea to force IO scheduling in Lazy K. < 1281984336 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glarikord < 1281984410 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An IO action returns the IO it has consumed in a separate list, and bind conses the output of the next action onto this, then pares the resultant list down. < 1281984489 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, the interpreter might be clever enough to work out that the input isn't actually being evaluated. < 1281984504 0 :cpressey!~CPressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281984527 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi cpressey. < 1281984545 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi alise < 1281984545 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.yesserpc iH < 1281984557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesser PC. < 1281984584 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it only me who thinks that names that start with a dot look nice? < 1281984609 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd like .theprodukkt, and Lojban. < 1281984651 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, probably. < 1281984668 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the dot in Lojban signify, anyway? < 1281984684 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :New syllable, or something; I forget. < 1281984688 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :' is pronounced h, I know that much. < 1281984702 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.mi'e .eliat,xyrd. ;; or something < 1281984725 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: here, fix that ^ < 1281984727 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1281984745 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Means pause < 1281984752 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Required in some situations < 1281984775 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yep, that's a valid sentence. < 1281984787 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wareya: but is ".eliat,xyrd." the most accurate rendering of my name? < 1281984792 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1281984798 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.eliat,xrd. was decided on ages ago, but iirc #lojban reconsidered < 1281984800 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a y snuck in somewhere < 1281984822 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd go with .Eli,yt.xrd. < 1281984846 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Wait ... ' is pronounced h... would abusing that be Totally Evil? < 1281984858 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.Eli,yt.'rd. < 1281984863 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It can only go between two vowels. < 1281984873 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i defy that convention < 1281984875 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1281984883 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that? LOJBAN is evolving! < 1281984895 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I defy all conventions of Lojban, a.k.a. not going anywhere near it < 1281984903 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I've forgotten what a Pokemon evolution looks like. < 1281984915 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess .Eli,yt.xyd. is what you want if you pronounce the R in "Hird" non-R-ly. < 1281984950 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's a bit like Hiid < 1281984952 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Herd < 1281984955 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pronounced exactly like herd. < 1281984963 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that help? :P < 1281984977 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except non-rhotically, and with a Northern accent. < 1281984987 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huud. < 1281984993 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to say Huud, yeah < 1281984993 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not hiid < 1281985001 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Mind, I don't really have a northern accent ... < 1281985025 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no alterations of 'u'-related sounds? < 1281985031 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, god knows. < 1281985042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: is there something i can do to protect myself against cockafoos? < 1281985101 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to watch some SGU now < 1281985113 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, you TV SF people. < 1281985121 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I laugh at you. < 1281985129 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha. < 1281985129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random challenge: Find a way to represent a rational with dynamically-sized numerator and denominator in 64-bit binary that gives the best range; i.e. largest/smallest integer but also smallest rational. < 1281985144 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably not one with bizarre discontinuities like floats; i.e. actual rationals. < 1281985157 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that isn't a very well-defined challenge. < 1281985191 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you implement actual rationals in fixed-size storage? < 1281985201 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are undecidable questions about reflective (reflexive?) formulations of automata, even ones with finite storage. < 1281985203 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How could you not? < 1281985205 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You obviously have a step size. < 1281985209 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No... < 1281985217 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, consider this (very bad) representation: < 1281985222 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Er - pait of integers? < 1281985224 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pair < 1281985233 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1281985243 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, the pairs are bounded in *some* way. < 1281985259 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: 1*01* < 1281985263 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1110 is 3/1 < 1281985265 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't mean that the difference between two representable rationals is consistent throughout the range < 1281985266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0111 is 1/3 < 1281985268 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: only by the architecture, which you are abstracting away, right? < 1281985269 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11011 is 2/2 = 1 < 1281985274 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :111011 is 3/2 < 1281985275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1281985282 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the challenge is, of course, to do this much more efficiently. < 1281985289 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281985292 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I /did/ specify 64-bits. < 1281985335 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Then I'm not sure what Phantom_Hoover means by "actual". < 1281985344 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Because zomg Q is countably infinite. < 1281985346 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: hi AC and lizards < 1281985348 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you represent that in finite space. < 1281985350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: wat < 1281985352 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*high < 1281985355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281985357 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1281985357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, i have ac 10 < 1281985358 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :low AC < 1281985361 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that happen? < 1281985362 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 is default < 1281985365 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :low is good < 1281985371 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had like 3 before < 1281985377 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you took your armor off? < 1281985380 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put your clothes back on, alise! < 1281985380 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1281985382 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that happen < 1281985384 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the incubus < 1281985389 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281985390 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am walking around naked < 1281985391 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one wants to see you naked after you had sex with that prostitute! < 1281985400 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not technically a prostitute! < 1281985401 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a rapist-theif < 1281985403 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thief < 1281985427 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, are we talking about rape? < 1281985432 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: well, I thought of a funny method. The lowest and highest integers it can represent are -63 and 63. The closest-to-0 fractions it can represent are 1/63 and -1/63. The highest-denominator fractions it can represent are 6557470319842/10610209857723 and -6557470319842/10610209857723. < 1281985436 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: What a delightful subject! < 1281985448 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: That's ... that's really shit. < 1281985460 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1281985461 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1281985471 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : How can you implement actual rationals in fixed-size storage? <-- by limiting the possible range < 1281985474 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: AC 2; is that good enough? < 1281985476 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, how about use one of those neat bijections we thought up? < 1281985485 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(okay that was extremely unhelpful I know) < 1281985489 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Those are useless; and they're not exactly "neat", they're very standard. < 1281985489 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My AC is crap < 1281985495 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: okay, then. Let me introduce you to a fancy technique known as the IEEE floating-point number. < 1281985501 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I wish there were lizards around here to steal the corpses of. < 1281985502 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, try an UPS then? < 1281985508 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Those have discontinuities, though. < 1281985510 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, they tend to counteract spikes and such < 1281985510 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Such as no 1/3. < 1281985522 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, wrong kind of AC < 1281985524 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: so, you want to be able to represent small fractions exactly? < 1281985527 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 1/10, actually. < 1281985530 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Instead of limited-but-flexible-range-on-each-side rationals, they're approximations-to-rationals. < 1281985532 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, oh right. air condition? < 1281985537 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Can you grok the former's difference? < 1281985541 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, split into 2 32-bit ints, one signed? < 1281985548 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong kind of AC < 1281985548 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, so is mine, it consists of a tabletop fan < 1281985549 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: As I said, that's not flexible range. < 1281985554 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's fixed range on each side. < 1281985566 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, alternating current, air condition? I don't know any other meanings of AC < 1281985574 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Armor Class < 1281985577 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you have a fixed range regardless. < 1281985577 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1281985581 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1281985585 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: let me think what you're referring to. < 1281985586 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, you are playing D&D or nethack? < 1281985586 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, I know that. < 1281985590 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack < 1281985593 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281985598 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, OK, so what's your problem? < 1281985599 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, well in that context I know of it < 1281985605 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Okay, basically, consider two 32-bit integers, one numerator, one denominator. < 1281985614 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, lets see.. in nethack it means you have a high value? < 1281985616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Now imagine if you could make it a 31-bit numerator and a 33-bit denominator, and so on. < 1281985619 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they count down iirc < 1281985623 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1281985623 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 < 1281985625 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Now make this actually work (you can't just "make" that happen since there's no way to tell which is which). < 1281985633 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, of course, okay if you can't actually get 32/32. < 1281985635 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, what is the base AC now again? < 1281985648 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I _think_ 10 without protection < 1281985652 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281985664 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, put on some armor? < 1281985670 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a wizard < 1281985673 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So have six bits at the beginning telling you where the break is. < 1281985697 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, oh < 1281985699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Okay; that's quite good. But arithmetic on that would suck. < 1281985700 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Statically determine the number of bits for each num and denom in the program. HA! < 1281985732 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, why not just use two bignums? < 1281985748 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: isn't arithmetic on rational numbers supposed to suck? < 1281985755 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because theoretical stuff is interesting? < 1281985759 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, then it is only limited by your computers memory < 1281985760 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Well, the idea of this is... < 1281985763 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: think of an efficient way to do 5/8 + 11/13. < 1281985780 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: I mean, your method is significantly less efficient than /regular/ rational arithmetic. < 1281985792 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1281985802 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to futz with the break-bit. < 1281985805 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess. < 1281985822 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you consider that significant? < 1281985834 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dog's name is Sokodog < 1281985865 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, off to SGU < 1281985879 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo University? < 1281985882 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: lizard corpse < 1281985886 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: stargate universe < 1281985893 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, w00t! < 1281985893 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm. < 1281985912 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: You should totally watch me flail around in NetHack. < 1281985936 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1281985950 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: do you call wareya Warrigal? < 1281985974 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, playing on NAO? < 1281985977 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, if so, we can < 1281985995 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet termcast.org < 1281986005 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAO is way too high-latency from here < 1281986008 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i play locally and termcast instead. < 1281986016 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: wareya doesn't really talk; why? < 1281986021 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, eh Satiated < 1281986021 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1281986023 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wondering. < 1281986024 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that's bad < 1281986035 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yeah, I just got Satiated. < 1281986036 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : NAO is way too high-latency from here <-- same < 1281986038 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should wear off soon. < 1281986042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, a bag. < 1281986044 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, hopefully < 1281986045 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I eat until satiated every so often. What's bad about it? < 1281986046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be a bag of holding! < 1281986050 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope it's a bag of holding. < 1281986054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: eating can be dangeorus ... that's about it < 1281986054 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, don't put unknown wands in it < 1281986061 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1281986071 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't put unknown bags in it. < 1281986071 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, no < 1281986076 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it abuses your str < 1281986076 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, don't put wands of cancellation in it. < 1281986076 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1281986084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hm, ok < 1281986088 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*okay < 1281986091 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, and what Warrigal said < 1281986101 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't put bags of holding in it. < 1281986124 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, don't put wands of cancellation or boh or unknown wands or unknown bags in a boh or unknown bag < 1281986145 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, dammit? why? < 1281986157 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: cause now i have to go back down < 1281986161 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there were chickatrices on this level before < 1281986186 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, (I guess alise too); it's dexterity that is abused once for every 10 turns if you're satiated. (Also wisdom if you are a monk, too; I guess monks are supposed to be the ascetic sort.) < 1281986205 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, uh uh < 1281986216 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right < 1281986250 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, bad thing with this compared to NAO is that I can't send you mail < 1281986311 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you stalled? < 1281986311 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice thing about NAO now: #name and C now both give you the same prompt: Whether to call a class of objects, individual object, or monster < 1281986316 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1281986328 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, how is that good? < 1281986331 0 :alise!~alise@91.104.239.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281986332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F U C K < 1281986339 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKING FUCKING FUCKSHITTING FUCKING PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT! < 1281986344 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1281986346 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot to plug the laptop in to charge < 1281986351 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turned off when it ran out of battery < 1281986353 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the save file? < 1281986353 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GONE < 1281986355 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be a recover th... Oh wow < 1281986355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking GONE < 1281986356 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU NETHACK < 1281986358 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, no < 1281986363 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it wasn't < 1281986366 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i started nethack and it asked if it wanted to pick etc. < 1281986367 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it is now < 1281986373 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it wasn't before you started it < 1281986378 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have used nethack-recover < 1281986381 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well gee, thanks for telling me in the past < 1281986383 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, now? probably too late < 1281986387 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't realise nethack had a punish_person_whose_battery_is_dead < 1281986389 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, but worth a quick try < 1281986392 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: worth a try, where do i get nethack-recover < 1281986399 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking shitting fuckfuck, i was doing so well that game < 1281986401 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, the nethack package? < 1281986404 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's lost i'm going to kill someone < 1281986410 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: not on arhc < 1281986411 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*arch < 1281986415 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, list files of it < 1281986419 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I'm not on arch atm < 1281986421 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't check < 1281986423 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tried nethack-recover, it didn't work. < 1281986426 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no such thing < 1281986429 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using pkgfile to find nethack-recover < 1281986432 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it is probably /usr/lib/nethack/bin/recover < 1281986434 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1281986441 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just list files of nethack < 1281986446 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it might not be in $PATH < 1281986456 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird@dinky ~]$ /usr/lib/nethack/recover < 1281986456 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it might or might not be called nethack-recover or recover < 1281986459 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's base1? < 1281986463 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :base1? < 1281986465 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wants a base1 argument < 1281986469 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: /usr/lib/nethack/recover [ -d directory ] base1 [ base2 ... ] < 1281986481 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, um. don't know read docs? < 1281986487 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, NH base directory, IIRC> < 1281986491 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I never needed to use it < 1281986507 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, probably something in /var/games/nethack < 1281986508 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sich < 1281986511 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such* < 1281986514 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: which is? < 1281986528 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, not sure. < 1281986528 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, just read docs < 1281986538 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's where the game data file is kept. < 1281986539 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :base is the "0user" sort of base-name of the savefile. < 1281986540 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can handle an AnMaster called "Vorpal" < 1281986555 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, why is that < 1281986558 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki for code? yes < 1281986561 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not likely to change it < 1281986563 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ahems < 1281986583 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And -d is the game data directory.) < 1281986585 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Oh, did you just now see the topic? < 1281986591 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, huh? < 1281986594 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Hackiki. < 1281986596 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, it is of course a nethack reference as much as it is a Alice through the Looking glass reference < 1281986600 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glass* < 1281986629 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1281986638 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1281986638 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, so why can't you handle it? < 1281986641 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1281986667 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so concurrent Haskell is a little mind-bending to work with. < 1281986669 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next he is going to say he couldn't handle fizzie changing nick < 1281986675 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I never seen that happen < 1281986687 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any plans to, so I'm "safe" that way. < 1281986689 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ever* < 1281986743 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's the end of my nethack kick. < 1281986775 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, why? < 1281986785 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you might need to sudo < 1281986788 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for recovering < 1281986793 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checkpoint data incompletely written or subsequently clobbered; < 1281986793 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recovery for "alock" impossible. < 1281986806 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the end of my nethack kick is because i'm pissed off and fed up enough to not want to play any more < 1281986809 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a while < 1281986818 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, think of it as YAAD < 1281986838 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i was doing very well that game, was in no imminent danger whatsoever, and could easily have got further < 1281986847 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!~phantomho@92.233.174.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281986852 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because nethack loves deleting save files when you resume, it's lost < 1281986854 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, fuck that. < 1281986870 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, you're going to play DCSS? < 1281986882 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm probably just not going to play roguelikes at all for a while < 1281986990 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : the end of my nethack kick is because i'm pissed off and fed up enough to not want to play any more <-- laptops were invented after nethack pretty much :P < 1281986996 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1281987001 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: system crashes were not. < 1281987002 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also mine would beep loudly at critical level < 1281987012 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that is why nethack-recover exists < 1281987021 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: which failed, because the system chose the wrong time to crash. < 1281987029 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose the dev team count on system crashes being at nicely-scheduled times? < 1281987069 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, did you run it as sudo? < 1281987081 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus christ, running things with sudo doesn't fix things! < 1281987091 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it does < 1281987094 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, considering permissions on /var/games/nethack it might < 1281987094 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checkpoint data incompletely written or subsequently clobbered; < 1281987094 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recovery for "alock" impossible. < 1281987094 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixes permission problems. < 1281987096 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very likely < 1281987098 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ^ < 1281987103 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it didn't, tada. < 1281987104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just tried it. < 1281987109 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1281987114 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that is because you ran nethack I think < 1281987126 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, after the crash < 1281987131 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but before nethack-recover < 1281987132 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it must have been halfway through writing recovery data when it crashed < 1281987147 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, he is not online? where did you speak to him < 1281987152 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is in #nethack. < 1281987155 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he left this channel. < 1281987166 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, invite him here! < 1281987177 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he left because he didn't want to be in here. < 1281987213 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, why? < 1281987222 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of me :( < 1281987223 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he wanted to say, I'm sure he would have. < 1281987229 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: don't be so hard on yourself :P < 1281987270 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281987301 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus fucking christ! I'm not going through Sokoban again. < 1281987323 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I may be able to help with Sokoban < 1281987334 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's strictly optional < 1281987338 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good idea, but optional < 1281987367 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, whatever, I'm not going through all the stuff before Sokoban either. < 1281987370 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or any of it. Or fuck that. < 1281987383 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1281987385 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this conversation would be more INTENSE with CAPS LOCK < 1281987389 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE THIS < 1281987391 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to again soon < 1281987395 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1281987405 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Actually, the mines were exceedingly easy. < 1281987411 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAPS LOCK MAKES THINGS MORE AWESOME. < 1281987422 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you really think you'd ascend this game? < 1281987428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1281987432 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I expected to get quite a bit further. < 1281987462 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flonk! < 1281987480 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: At your service < 1281987499 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flonk, make me tea. < 1281987512 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flonk, give me a programmer's bit < 1281987519 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: alright, but you'll need to get it youself < 1281987529 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack needs a combination of switches, -f -u -c -k, that will put you in a room with ten thousand easy-to-kill monsters to take your frustration out on. < 1281987531 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flonk, wait, are you American? < 1281987536 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not #IRP lol < 1281987541 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: nope, I'm from austria < 1281987557 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well, debug mode + levelport + bigroom is good for that. < 1281987573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: but also a bitch < 1281987584 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can give yourself a 128-charge /oD and a -128 AC. < 1281987600 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can take down most things with relative ease. < 1281987629 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you attack your pet? < 1281987632 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hit death with a /oDeath < 1281987638 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, < 1281987638 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, F < 1281987646 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Felix yowls! You kill poor Felix! Welcome to experience level 3.--More-- < 1281987650 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281987652 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, the DevTeam thought of that. < 1281987652 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, where? < 1281987657 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes him stronger. < 1281987675 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1281987677 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_, I knoww < 1281987681 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: the downstair WASN'T under that boulder < 1281987688 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where was it? < 1281987688 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : this conversation would be more INTENSE with CAPS LOCK <-- Caps Lock, I never seem a keyboard with it in all upper case < 1281987693 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i don't know, and i'm fainting < 1281987696 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though that is somewhat ironic < 1281987699 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, wait what? < 1281987701 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol :/ < 1281987705 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: now i'm fainting every other turn < 1281987709 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i copied the savefile out to investigate later < 1281987714 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Dlvl 1 of Doom < 1281987719 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've mapped out almost the entire screen < 1281987721 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a single downstair < 1281987724 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you're screwed < 1281987733 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checked the keyboards/laptops I have around here: Caps Lock, Caps Lck, CapsLk < 1281987736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i gnaw on my leg? < 1281987738 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the optimal way to kill Death? < 1281987738 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you have debug, and hence unlimited wishes and resurrects. < 1281987772 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, no. < 1281987778 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1281987786 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i killed felix for food but he didn't leave a corpse :) < 1281987791 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: FWIW, this keyboard has a "CAPS LOCK", with CAPS on one line, and LOCK under it, and then a little "A in a box" symbol vertically centered, to the right of the text. < 1281987797 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume because you can't get your leg as an item. < 1281987801 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you read the scroll, it disappears. Your hands begin to glow red.--More-- < 1281987820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | alise | < 1281987820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 85 Au | < 1281987820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | killed by a | < 1281987820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | newt, while | < 1281987820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | helpless | < 1281987836 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations < 1281987851 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my savefiled stupid fucking deleted game isn't even in the record < 1281987854 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking fucking fuck < 1281987863 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DOES NETHACK REMOVE SAVE FILES ON RESUME APART FROM TO STOP CHEATERS < 1281987869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not going to cheat < 1281987891 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well, of course you'd say that. < 1281987913 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe i'm this pissed off... < 1281987917 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously i was doing well! < 1281987918 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm < 1281987927 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My laptop hibernates when it's low on power < 1281987938 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I suspect there's an option for it. < 1281987949 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, FWIW? For ? Information ? < 1281987949 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: i doubt it < 1281987952 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :options are game-related < 1281987965 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: for why information wins < 1281987969 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, XD < 1281987970 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, true, but NH has a tonne of compile-time macros. < 1281987978 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, For what it's worth < 1281987983 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like no Elbereth, etc. < 1281987987 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, ah < 1281987988 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a silly limitation < 1281988001 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what is? < 1281988003 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't they just let you choose how you manage your savefiles yourself, bah < 1281988005 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281988011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: because it's designed for multi-user systems < 1281988014 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's very ... protective < 1281988024 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, resuming savefiles after you die is Very Much Against the Rules < 1281988031 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "For what it's worth." < 1281988048 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right, as Sgeo_ said < 1281988054 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make savefile backups manually but it's apparently considered cheating somehow < 1281988058 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Og. < 1281988069 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it is < 1281988078 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was once accused of cheating on #nethack for asking what the extent of NH's savefile protection was. < 1281988085 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1281988088 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but #nethack are nice ... < 1281988134 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the person was nice after I explained that I was just curious. < 1281988167 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TV Tropes seems to be wrong about it encoding the inode into a savefile to prevent copying. < 1281988177 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that does seem paranoid enough. < 1281988275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack.eu is low latency but not low latency enough < 1281988278 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paranoid, but overly brittle. < 1281988318 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well, you'd rather have this situation happen again? < 1281988349 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i'd rather not keep it unplugged < 1281988351 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tyvm < 1281988375 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're playing again though? :D < 1281988383 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. i guess so. < 1281988386 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same time, same bat-channel. < 1281988399 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if i can't stab the wizard of fucking yendor to death < 1281988401 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :broadcasting now < 1281988431 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Broadcasting? < 1281988439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet termcast.org < 1281988439 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet termcast.org < 1281988461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1281988463 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to adjust a setting or two < 1281988487 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1281988511 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stubborn doors here < 1281988545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaat? < 1281988546 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :felix died already < 1281988547 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Permanently answering your qu.. not that it matters < 1281988550 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Felix < 1281988553 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your cat died immediately? < 1281988557 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Falling rock? < 1281988557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: turn 220 < 1281988560 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god knows < 1281988580 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you might want to *check*. < 1281988611 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1281988619 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR SCIENCE < 1281988689 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :general store on lvl 1 ftw < 1281988690 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : you can make savefile backups manually but it's apparently considered cheating somehow <-- yes iirc it done by recording inode ins the files or some other such devious trick < 1281988696 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in* < 1281988755 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, so that was true? < 1281988758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Let's see if I can't steal... < 1281988760 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_, note "iirc" < 1281988763 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paranoid indeed. < 1281988765 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_, learn what it means < 1281988771 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_, it also records pid iirc < 1281988778 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure why < 1281988782 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, yeah, the PID is well-know. < 1281988788 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_, forgot why it does that < 1281988792 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the inode is a little more nebulous < 1281988806 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, something to do with runtime tampering? < 1281988828 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_, not sure < 1281988855 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, to stop you interrupting the normal save-quit process? < 1281988868 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : TV Tropes seems to be wrong about it encoding the inode into a savefile to prevent copying. <-- checked their nethack article, they don't mention anything about that? < 1281988881 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, they definitely did. < 1281988912 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you destroy a boulder again? < 1281988914 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1281988925 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, as valk? < 1281988940 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, invent? < 1281988948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1281988957 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've forgotten how i did it in sokoban :P < 1281988958 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, inventiry < 1281988961 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inventory* < 1281988961 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, inventory. < 1281988964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1281988968 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~nothing < 1281988970 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, Don't destroy boulders in sokoban < 1281988974 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very very bad idea < 1281988976 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :long sword, dagger, small shield, plate mail, food, magenta potion < 1281988978 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no it's not < 1281988981 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, luck penality? < 1281988982 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's the only way i solved the last one < 1281988984 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure < 1281988985 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, -1 < 1281988986 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very small < 1281988988 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you get it back < 1281988991 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after some turns < 1281988995 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1281989004 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. well worth it if the alternative is /not completing sokoban/ < 1281989007 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you have a non-blessed Luckstone < 1281989010 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, but I try to have a luckstone and be on positive luck < 1281989033 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd rather forfeit sokoban? < 1281989052 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yum, slime molds! < 1281989055 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather not screw up Sokoban < 1281989080 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you shouldn't need it in sokoban < 1281989108 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: wtf @ invincible box < 1281989111 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION breaks alise's legs < 1281989178 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, invincible box? < 1281989182 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay poisonous! < 1281989187 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it took like 40 hits to unlock < 1281989203 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, wow, far out man < 1281989204 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallu is the best state of mind in which to be in. < 1281989228 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I played NetHack around the first time, I was hungry < 1281989233 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate some corpse < 1281989239 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are getting the munchies. < 1281989249 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "Hallu" meant hallelujah that I am not starving < 1281989252 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1281989264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you got killed by a master lichen? < 1281989389 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything looks SO boring now. You stop waiting. < 1281989428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conga line of ssssssnakes < 1281989430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssssssss < 1281989479 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1281989547 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can blind stuff with that pie < 1281989556 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But blinded creatures don't respect Elbereth < 1281989568 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they were born blind < 1281989593 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see: only creatures that were born blind can read. < 1281989608 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This dog is the most cursed. < 1281989632 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Fluffy Ol' Felix < 1281989641 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killed by money < 1281989646 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil money < 1281989664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. What the fuck?! < 1281989710 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP alise < 1281989721 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Tyr. < 1281989798 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Is being hit by a floating eye really so bad? < 1281989813 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being paralized by one and dying to some grid bug is < 1281989828 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long does the paralysis last? < 1281989832 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, *paralysed. < 1281989838 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know < 1281989847 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was easy. < 1281989875 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methinks Fluffy saved your life by weakening that eye < 1281989912 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl29-2-0-cust326.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281989968 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7154/lalzn.jpg there you go. (look at that awesome blue cat with the white tail) < 1281989998 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flonk, appallingly weak and without milk. < 1281990005 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milk is unacceptable. < 1281990010 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, appallingly weak. < 1281990021 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you let it infuse for three or more minutes? < 1281990027 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM VERY SKEPTICAL OF THIS PROPOSITION. < 1281990041 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, milk is acceptable with lowish-end tea. < 1281990045 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry. I think it were only 2. < 1281990054 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HERETIC < 1281990059 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: But why would you drink lowish-end tea? < 1281990069 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, money, dear boy! < 1281990069 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**NOTE TO SELF: Stash on dlvl 6. < 1281990077 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: Gentlemen do not lack money! < 1281990081 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And besides, even if they do, < 1281990087 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what better thing to spend your minimal money on than tea?! < 1281990094 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**NOTE TO SELF: Steal stash on dlvl 6. < 1281990168 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**NOTE TO SELF: Stash consists of plate mail and nothing else. < 1281990193 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the name of a poisonous corpse? < 1281990208 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to get PinoBot to warn me about dangerous corpses < 1281990218 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pois < 1281990235 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is CL's namespace system called Lisp-2? < 1281990247 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: because it has N namespaces, but most people only care about 2 < 1281990251 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has at least 3 separate namespaces. < 1281990255 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: are cursed scrolls ever useful? < 1281990258 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1281990274 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, what, so classes don't count? < 1281990275 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cursed scroll of genocide lets you make monsters < 1281990279 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance < 1281990289 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cursed scroll of teleport lets you teleport to different levels < 1281990312 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: not for the point that lisp-2 makes < 1281990366 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: quarterstaffs any good? < 1281990379 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizards start with one < 1281990401 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed they do < 1281990404 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they any good? < 1281990456 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1281990461 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's good are athames < 1281990472 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They engrave elbereth semi-permanently and fast < 1281990491 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1281990494 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281990511 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1281990511 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: jade*: nothing grew among the rafters. withel regarded it without love. ymor's ravens were notoriously loyal to their design, prisoners and slaves that have sucked blood from larger animals. < 1281990515 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.conservapedia.com/Category:Success < 1281990522 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I don't often Elbereth. < 1281990526 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I'll pick it up then. < 1281990544 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 Magicbane < 1281990555 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you would if you have Magicbane :D < 1281990555 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION establishes an attitude of complete ignoring to his pets < 1281990564 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i'm a valk man < 1281990568 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excalibur is more my thing < 1281990610 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it's useful against certain monsters still < 1281990640 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIGHT LIGHT OH THE LIGHT < 1281990645 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT CAN I DO BUT STAND IN FRIGHT < 1281990652 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The answer is "run") < 1281990656 0 :sshc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1281990664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, that didn't work. Oh well. < 1281990674 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You feel more confident in your weapon skills. It yelps! You hit it. < 1281990675 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... stop that. < 1281990704 0 :sshc!~sshc@unaffiliated/sshc JOIN :#esoteric < 1281990734 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1281990756 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1281990764 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're on Dlvl 7 so soon < 1281990768 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I just suck < 1281990775 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first levels are ... boring. < 1281990784 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just map them out, kill whatever appears, pick shit up and move on. < 1281990787 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No training or anything. < 1281990819 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although < 1281990823 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is dlvl 8 and i'm only exp 6 < 1281990826 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i should train a bit < 1281990854 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i died in angband < 1281990855 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1281990862 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sucks < 1281990863 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: it's just that nothing's really attacked me. < 1281990882 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i con't like the idea thet you cannot save game whenever you llike < 1281990888 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, like Angband? < 1281990902 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: nethack! < 1281990906 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your sytem doesn't crash it's FUN! < 1281991048 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION WTFs at online graphical nethack < 1281991068 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1281991071 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep mixing up up and downstairs < 1281991084 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-4-144.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281991181 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just killed a horse in one hit fuck yeah < 1281991205 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I ID my bag? < 1281991253 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: RIP me. < 1281991261 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not dead yet < 1281991264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 hp < 1281991266 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1281991267 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prayed merely turns ago < 1281991272 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea what my potions are < 1281991278 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slow down < 1281991280 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And think < 1281991289 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am. Now what? < 1281991294 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the monster in question Elbereth-respecting? < 1281991301 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soldier ant; so yes, I suppose so. < 1281991334 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't go team a! < 1281991374 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Alise. < 1281991374 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go team ant! < 1281991383 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Fucking return key < 1281991387 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1281991394 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Return key shouldn't cause you to wait < 1281991407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It caused me to /move/. < 1281991415 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were fast; you are dead. < 1281991447 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizard! < 1281991451 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1281991461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do Valkyrie; I've never played any of the others. :) < 1281991492 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating eyes are SO easy to kill when you're a wizard < 1281991510 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, tweaking settings < 1281991513 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1281991515 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most things are, so long as you have enough pow. < 1281991521 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disabled autopickup < 1281991523 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out that's irritating. < 1281991605 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pickup_types=/"$? < 1281991608 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Removed = because fuck rings. < 1281991620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, added them back in because I'm used to it. < 1281991625 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re-broadcasting. < 1281991651 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm playing again' < 1281991819 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: yeah < 1281991844 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what understandable Scheme-in-Scheme compilers are there? < 1281991845 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, need to drop stuff < 1281991860 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i play angband because i don't like nethack's key bindings < 1281991874 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: ichbins is "almost scheme" < 1281991880 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you mean vi keys? < 1281991881 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjkl < 1281991906 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you can use the number pad < 1281991912 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you enable numpad < 1281992251 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281992276 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281992291 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: SO MANY BOULDERS < 1281992310 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a mimic < 1281992335 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking about my game XD < 1281992387 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Believe me, there are more boulders here < 1281992444 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, the mines? < 1281992450 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1281992471 0 :zeotrope_!~vib@bas3-kitchener06-1096650194.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1281992586 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stayed unspoiled the first two levels, minor spoilers the third level, and completely spoiler-reliant the 4th < 1281992644 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1281992649 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The SICP compiler is very understandable, but it's also not very serious. < 1281992656 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To put it mildly.) < 1281992733 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also targets a strange simulated Scheme register machine; I'm not quite sure what you wanted with a "Scheme-in-Scheme compiler". < 1281992742 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dlvl 3, exp 1; this is ludicrous < 1281992818 0 :Gregor-W!836b416f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.65.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281992938 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: It feels so much like I'm just ... messing around < 1281992944 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the game < 1281992977 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abandoned felix dlvl 3, can't find him < 1281992981 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, he's down there. < 1281993211 0 :sshc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1281993214 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Shall I fight the shk?! < 1281993221 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : shk damage: 4d4/4d4 < 1281993224 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN TOTALLY HANDLE THAT. < 1281993284 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your long sword softly glows with a light blue aura. < 1281993288 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The issue is more my HEALTH, Tyr. < 1281993290 0 :sshc!~sshc@unaffiliated/sshc JOIN :#esoteric < 1281993536 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Think I should start another game? < 1281993573 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1281993580 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I... I.... Yeah, okay. < 1281993585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Narrowcastin' < 1281993602 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: wow, no doors < 1281993603 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssss < 1281993616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, Sgeo? < 1281993618 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are trapped. < 1281993651 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not < 1281993656 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Howcome < 1281993664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OBSERVE < 1281993669 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :200s < 1281993671 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still nothing < 1281993677 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look for more doors! < 1281993690 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there. < 1281993694 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, NetHack does calculus. < 1281993702 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1281993721 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monsters, you're not meant to run away from me. < 1281993779 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You read: "1994-1995. The Longest-Lived Hacker Ever".--More-- < 1281993904 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Felix < 1281994001 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trapdoor'd < 1281994044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: wtf < 1281994074 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1281994080 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: low-lighting ... room < 1281994083 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, Trapdoor != death < 1281994105 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardest cave spider ever < 1281994124 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTFFFFF < 1281994127 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW IS IT DOING THIS < 1281994177 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIE DIE DIE MYSTERIOUS MONSTER BEHIND BOULDER! < 1281994181 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does NH do calculus? < 1281994191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover_: "dx" < 1281994197 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: a cave spider just got my hp down from ~32 to 7 < 1281994198 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1281994200 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor. < 1281994249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kitten corpse :( < 1281994266 0 :zeotrope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :zeotrope < 1281994328 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's even worse when you're a wizard. < 1281994330 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ a human or elf (werejackal) [seen: normal vision, infravision] < 1281994332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Praying time soon <3 < 1281994340 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not < 1281994410 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dlvl:5 $:358 HP:66(66) Pw:6(6) AC:6 Exp:5 T:1938 < 1281994530 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unihorn GET < 1281994535 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you Sokodog! < 1281994551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sock a dog < 1281994766 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT SHK < 1281994929 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't anger shopkeepers? < 1281994941 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1281994948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but but but the < 1281994951 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the. < 1281994986 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And NEVER anger Ischak. < 1281994999 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**HORRIBLY OFFENSIVE** He'll kill you with cancer! < 1281995007 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but yeah, fuck the watch. Fuuuuuuck them. < 1281995051 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1281995181 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any comfortable frontend for nethack? < 1281995218 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: yes, nethack < 1281995222 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn on numpad if you don't like vi keys < 1281995230 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: ... there are guis, but i don't like them < 1281995233 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want a large terminal < 1281995239 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to stop inventory etc taking up space on the screen < 1281995250 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :set DECgraphics, colour, hilite_pet... in fact a bunch of options < 1281995254 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may like the menucolour and HPmon patch < 1281995404 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking fuck what? < 1281995414 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, 2 > 1 > 3 < 1281995426 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, 2 < 1 < 3, sorry. < 1281995434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is still wrong wrong wrong. < 1281995441 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: whaat < 1281995511 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: but how am i supposed to move < 1281995518 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have numeric keyboard < 1281995523 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1281995525 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adn hjkl is painful < 1281995528 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: ok ... then suck it up and learn vi keys < 1281995533 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure your hand rests on hjkl < 1281995535 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not jkl; < 1281995535 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: The Primary Phase of H2G2 is showing as discs 3, 1, 2, or 2, 1, 3, depending. < 1281995539 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow. < 1281995545 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhu uh < 1281995547 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: srsly, for the amount of time a game takes in nethack -- which is LONG < 1281995552 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the time spent getting used to vi keys is nothing < 1281995557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :diagonals are yubn, by the way < 1281995564 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: In QL? < 1281995575 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yeah. < 1281995575 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hmm. Clearly you aren't sorting sufficiently. < 1281995593 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what is the headers = line in .quodlibet/config? < 1281995641 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :headers = ~#disc ~#track ~title~version ~album~discsubtitle artist ~#length < 1281995664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your sort column in quodlibet? < 1281995672 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: also, how are your albums tagged, wrt. discnumber? < 1281995682 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that with MusicBrainz, the easiest thing is just to let it put the disc number in the title. < 1281995701 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: If there are multiple discs in the album, there's a discnumber tag. < 1281995707 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Right. < 1281995719 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But Picard can put it in the album tag. < 1281995721 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Alternatively, close QL and substitute ~album~discnumber~discsubtitle... you may have better luck. < 1281995728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can't edit the file while QL is open; it'll overwrite it on quit.) < 1281995751 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The display is a little bit ugly -- "Foo - 1 - The Amazing Disc" -- but it should sort correctly. < 1281995753 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1281995781 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1281995792 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAAAH < 1281995810 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I set it to sort *by disc* and it fucking sorts wrong. < 1281995814 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO YOU FAIL THAT BADLY < 1281995826 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORTING IS NOT THAT FUCKING HARD < 1281995843 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, it is now sorting with a different order. < 1281995847 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2,3,1. < 1281995852 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes less sense. < 1281995912 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remove the musicbrainz_albumid tag and it all works. < 1281995918 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moral of the story: that tag is retarded. < 1281996070 0 :derdon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1281996093 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I won BN < 1281996262 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!~phantomho@92.233.174.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281996488 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT < 1281996597 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: ? < 1281996611 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought I messed up Sokoban < 1281996616 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1281997054 0 :cheater109!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cheater99 < 1281997247 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1281997639 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1281997811 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's table buckles < 1281998093 0 :cpressey!~CPressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281998127 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey the ... something ending with essey < 1281998261 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Marking an item as out-of-band allows the creation of monads in functional evaluations. More automatism will be introduced in future, but scripters can have monads by assigning the oob status to complex objects and perform out-of-band processing on them. " -- http://www.falconpl.org/project_docs/core/funset_oob_support.html < 1281998295 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad's being nutty < 1281998318 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's ... unusual ... ? < 1281998324 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*...? < 1281998327 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: What. < 1281998346 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Short version: Falcon makes me laugh. < 1281998353 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... < 1281998366 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: also, *Bear Wrestling < 1281998372 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIGHT SORRY < 1281998379 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bear Wrestling makes me laugh. < 1281998395 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I'm from PETA. Hi. < 1281998402 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh < 1281998414 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're, uh, robot bears. < 1281998428 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like from Disneyworld, y'know? < 1281998435 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said "PETR", not "PETA". Yeah, I know, they sound alike. < 1281998436 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That jamboree thing < 1281998448 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please come with me. < 1281998477 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PETR? < 1281998483 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_Bear_Jamboree < 1281998493 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People for the Ethical Treatment of Robots. < 1281998498 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH DAMN < 1281998505 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a fair cop. < 1281998523 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll show you a fair cop... MEET THIS POLICEMAN. < 1281998528 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's here to arrest you for robot bear cruelty. < 1281998533 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, rather, the enjoyment thereof. < 1281998568 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1281999051 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I hereby reverse my opinion of NetHack, btw. < 1281999075 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like now? < 1281999107 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "like"; I hate its guts (especially the RNG), but, you know... < 1281999117 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kicks off his 5435th game < 1281999120 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You enjoy. < 1281999129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ... enjoy, as such ... < 1281999143 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts seriously considering the possibility that a roguelike is controlling his mind < 1281999164 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have acquired an addiction, I was just going to say... < 1281999181 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- on a more serious note, no, i do like it now < 1281999185 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably "not dying" helped. < 1281999264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you aren't here in a few turns, Felix, I'm leaving you behind. < 1281999525 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1281999539 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1282000050 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1282000109 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There seem to be undecidable questions about reflective finite automata. < 1282000118 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1282000121 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1282000127 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's reflective? < 1282000139 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "oReflection! < 1282000140 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reflective meaning, it can examine itself. < 1282000175 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's own "source code" then? < 1282000181 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I dunno, it has a cursor that can travel around the transition table, and it can read its own states and transitions off of it. < 1282000186 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, "source code". < 1282000215 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1282000230 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I can write: if (this_automaton_accepts()) then reject(); else accept(); < 1282000261 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, this may be some kind of illusion < 1282000273 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that sounds wrong. reading your own source code isn't enough to decide if you accept < 1282000289 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :accepts_on_any_input()? < 1282000294 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you simulated yourself you'd end up looking at yourself again < 1282000296 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1282000297 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ad infinitum < 1282000311 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't pick up things < 1282000320 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: in nethack? < 1282000324 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you have autopickup off < 1282000326 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's evil < 1282000331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least < 1282000332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :severely restricted < 1282000340 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, right, but it can't do that. OK, that's not "undecidable" so much as it is "undecidable by finite automaton". < 1282000380 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sry it was alise who said that < 1282000386 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: , picks up, anyway. < 1282000398 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well _that's_ not very surprising, really < 1282000433 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Zzzz < 1282000559 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ... yeah. Well, back to the drawing board < 1282000568 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION declares the logs too long to read again < 1282000584 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, Sokodog is dead :( < 1282000749 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm doing well this game! < 1282000752 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT SOKODOG IS NOT. < 1282000766 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You stole my pet name??? < 1282000772 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1282000774 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant yours < 1282000777 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/still/ on sokoban? < 1282000782 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to go afk < 1282000790 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, soko+dog is hardly something you can own :P < 1282000864 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: New quit message. Entering 2006 in style. < 1282000876 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least the precious " wasn't eaten by a rock mole < 1282000877 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1282000880 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(@ my gamestate) < 1282000897 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And at least my laptop's not losing power, causing me to lose the gamestate entirely < 1282000921 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY NOW THAT'S A SENSITIVE ISSUE < 1282000953 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I should clear out Soko < 1282000957 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : @########y##········## < 1282000958 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gulp* < 1282000960 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of stuff of unknown value < 1282000964 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you havea blindfold? < 1282000972 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or unihorn? Or carrot? < 1282000972 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You feel agile! You must have been working on your reflexes. ;; after 100. < 1282000976 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope; early game. < 1282000985 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mind being blind? < 1282000990 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, yellow or black? < 1282000990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope; I'm cured. < 1282000992 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yellow. < 1282000996 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's black? < 1282000999 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallu < 1282001002 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet. < 1282001062 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d@d < 1282001064 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :were < 1282001065 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1282001068 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, /polymorph < 1282001107 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does #monster last even after you change back? < 1282001116 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think #monster varies < 1282001127 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for lycanthropy, the pets stay tame < 1282001149 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long until I unwerewolf? < 1282001162 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1282001194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems permanent ... < 1282001196 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1282001234 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1282001237 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: just waiting doesn't help, does it? < 1282001271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1282001275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot jackal pets < 1282001280 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you'll turn back to @-form eventually, but not de-lycanthropize < 1282001289 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will praying cure it? < 1282001292 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T YOU DARE STEAL MY WAND, MONKEY < 1282001296 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, not sure < 1282001305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1282001320 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Reboot < 1282001411 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sokopussy < 1282001439 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sokokitty < 1282001482 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | alise | < 1282001482 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 480 Au | < 1282001482 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | killed by a | < 1282001482 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | killer bee | < 1282001538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1282001635 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: gimme dat bag < 1282001643 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What bag? < 1282001647 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is my inventory < 1282001663 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looting a chest < 1282001680 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting some junk away < 1282001699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you had a bag < 1282001700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1282001701 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1282001705 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use chests to put things in < 1282001706 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only now considered that < 1282001757 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are all these fruits rotton? < 1282001759 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dangit! < 1282001795 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rotton < 1282001833 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am totally missing out on this NetHack craze I guess < 1282001863 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why'd my pet die? < 1282001879 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1282001881 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My useless Sokopussy < 1282001894 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Apparently watching me infects everyone else. < 1282001908 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm rather boring before I get to... well, around Sokoban time. < 1282002115 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dangit, I think I used up that poly wand < 1282002129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you and your Amulet of Reflection! < 1282002145 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, Soko can also hold BoH < 1282002160 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes. < 1282002182 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My polymorph got a completely useless cure blindness spell < 1282002286 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that useless? i get this impression y'all are getting blind a lot < 1282002300 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a unihorn, which cures blindness easily < 1282002305 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1282002504 0 :Flonk_!~chatzilla@80-123-47-240.adsl.highway.telekom.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1282002608 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1282002622 0 :Flonk_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Flonk < 1282002815 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, check out all my new spells! < 1282002929 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna go make some more without regards to sensibility < 1282002980 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH < 1282002982 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Charm Monster! < 1282003040 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] < 1282003117 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna save here and relax