< 1278720041 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my favourite 2600 games are Adventure and Haunted House. Although I'm sure there were others I found enjoyable. < 1278720085 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how close you could come to something like Sword of Fargoal on the 2600 < 1278720095 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, a really simple roguelike. < 1278720098 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly I am more a fan of the 5200 < 1278720107 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1278720134 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I have always dreamed of writing a roguelike for the 5200.. and have had many many false starts at it < 1278720162 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know almost nothing about the 5200, sadly. Or, really, any Atari that came after it. < 1278720179 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing text on the 2600 is a pain and a half tho < 1278720213 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly I don't even understand how they pulled off basic programming < 1278720213 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes. I wouldn't take "roguelike" quite THAT literally. :) < 1278720280 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I gotta take off now. < 1278720283 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night all! < 1278720286 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I first tried porting Moria, but there is just no way to fit that game into 32k and still have it be Moria < 1278720290 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya Chris < 1278720307 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1278720340 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1278720654 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@nat-wireless-guest-reg-158-122.bu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1278720982 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1278721103 0 :CakeProphet!~adam@h183.63.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278721400 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, was it you who wanted to build an os? < 1278721429 0 :SevenInchBread!~adam@h159.34.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278721568 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1278721613 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1278721676 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: just about everyone here < 1278721701 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, I have a bad memory hehe < 1278721724 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, oh, why do you want to write an os? < 1278721747 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey not me. far too lazy. < 1278721774 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: sounds fun < 1278721801 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though if I do a major project in assembly, it will probably be an implementation of the standard C library < 1278721807 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I talked them out of doing it in a virtual machine.. but I think that might actually be a better approach < 1278721830 0 :CakeProphet!~adam@h48.57.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278721870 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: sounds reasonable < 1278721880 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, working at first < 1278721892 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you could port it more easily < 1278721896 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a VM is sure faster than loading it onto some media for a computer to use, then rebooting it < 1278721897 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1278721903 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VMs are processor-specific < 1278721913 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your program works on an x86 VM, it works on an x86 VM < 1278721920 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vm itself, yes < 1278721926 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or on an x86 < 1278721930 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the os inside the vm, not necessarily < 1278721945 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if the vm is done right < 1278721960 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, what? < 1278721992 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1278722026 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, that's the whole point of a vm.. portability < 1278722033 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know some library for C that provides x86 assembler ? < 1278722041 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: uh, usually not < 1278722042 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like asmjit but for C < 1278722049 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, not in the sense of VMWare or something < 1278722053 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mean a programming VM like Java, sure < 1278722057 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, java < 1278722068 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but implementing an OS would be done on a real-machine VM < 1278722087 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least a VM resembling a real machine (like MMIX) < 1278722094 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1278722104 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you gain nothing by the fact that the VM is portable < 1278722110 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you do < 1278722114 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1278722116 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only have to write the os once < 1278722130 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vm is the only thing that changes < 1278722137 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1278722139 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a horrible idea < 1278722158 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a reason that people code to ARM or PPC or what-have-you, rather than just running x86 VMs on them < 1278722180 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a toy OS, I think it is fine < 1278722202 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like you'd use an esoteric os day to day lol < 1278722232 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are making the same argument I did before when I talked him out of it < 1278722269 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I am thinking that is wrong.. for an experimental os, portability is good < 1278722288 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what if it's slower < 1278722353 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're missing the point < 1278722361 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portability is pointless for an OS < 1278722393 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real VMs are used for two reasons today, both of them dumb: < 1278722412 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 is because people want to run two OSes simultaneously because people won't make things interoperable < 1278722428 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#2 is because people are too lazy to implement proper sandboxing so they go for hypervisors instead < 1278722463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#3 is operating system development. < 1278722471 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1278722547 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly do it to play old games < 1278722553 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though usually, it doesn't work < 1278722579 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The games that caén't be played in DOS Box have usually great compatibility problems with modern computers < 1278722689 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, pikhq's snarky comment is correct < 1278722709 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the third and only real valid use of VMs does not require portability < 1278722729 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the notion of portability of an OS is silly anyhow < 1278722748 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, what proper sandboxes are there? < 1278722773 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: is your argument meant to be convincing? lol < 1278722787 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: one of the BSDs (Net?) has very powerful sandboxing < 1278722792 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than some of the VMs out there < 1278722800 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, how about for Windows? < 1278722806 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: no < 1278722811 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why we have to use stupid hypervisors < 1278722812 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has some untrustworthy programs he wants to run < 1278722911 0 :CakeProphet!~adam@h3.4.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278723047 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, connection problems? < 1278723082 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: get a Linux box and use Wine < 1278723107 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: consider this.. running your os under brainfuck < 1278723111 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of running a full VM, but Wine.. might work < 1278723118 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :iamcal < 1278723128 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, it might not, so < 1278723134 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, useful? hell no.. fun? yes < 1278723180 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that denizens of this channel have a non-mainstream view of what is fun. < 1278723193 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no way am I going to implement an os in brainfuck.. although maybe I could write the vm < 1278723202 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__, yeah I'm a sick puppy < 1278723214 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely considers making a PSOX2 < 1278723225 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps designed with a certain set of languages in mind < 1278723243 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To try to ensure that it's not too language-specific < 1278723287 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: If Wine works, it's very good at sandboxing < 1278723307 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, a WINE-aware malicious program could break out easily, iiuc < 1278723307 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, I've already implemented a sort of asm in bf, and even bootstrapped it < 1278723309 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since most Windows exploits assume a Windows kernel < 1278723322 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: yes, WINE has very little specific security, that's true < 1278723326 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so implementing a vm asm wouldn't be much of a leap < 1278723328 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're really paranoid, chroot it < 1278723338 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can break chroot jails too < 1278723352 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1278723355 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I need to try is of the "script kiddy" variety :/ < 1278723422 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More likely to try to steal a typed-in password than anything, which is why I'll be watching via Wireshark in any event < 1278723436 0 :CakeProphet!~adam@h110.35.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278723437 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: then Wine will do fine < 1278723439 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any way to have to approve individual.. messages, in Wireshark? < 1278723452 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not cost-effect most of the time to write a Wine-specific exploit < 1278723455 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cost-effective < 1278723493 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :script kiddie stuff works on the basis that there are a thousand users. You pick an easy vector and attack, you'll still usually get a good return < 1278723506 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :complex vectors like breaking out of Wine are not worth it < 1278723541 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one thing to make sure you do is delete the z: and z:: symlinks < 1278723559 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :z::? < 1278723568 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least with wine you can run without privileges < 1278723585 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it might simply be easier to boot up the old computer and run the Win98 VM that's on it < 1278723592 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :create a new user account with sever restrictions < 1278723600 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, this is a one-time thing < 1278723605 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, watching SGA < 1278723610 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: by default, wine installs a drive that is z:, and it's linked to / < 1278723624 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, I knew that, but what's z::? < 1278723629 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reference to the disk < 1278723638 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION blinks < 1278723645 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look at it < 1278723651 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also have a drive for your home directory < 1278723670 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Z:\home\username or w/e < 1278723685 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a separate drive < 1278723691 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, maybe it differs.. here it is < 1278723709 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why isn't YouTube HTML5 dealing wtih hd properly? < 1278723774 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because screw you. < 1278723784 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1278723795 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, I must have added it < 1278723802 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nm < 1278723831 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pointed directly at a documents directory.. couldn't be standard lol < 1278723897 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Looks like one of those toys you play with when you were a kid" "Commodore 64?" "Triple-barrel shotgun?" < 1278724237 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I am leaving. You are about to explode. < 1278724621 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1278724628 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1278724639 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i feel forced to write a simple run-runtime assembler lib for C < 1278724744 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1278724957 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if writing an assembler could be automated < 1278724987 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uh, like i write a parser and some small engine and then feed it with eg. this file http://mprolab.teipir.gr/vivlio80X86/pentium.txt < 1278725000 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it automatically knows how to translate mnemonics < 1278725196 0 :Wamanuz!~wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278725453 0 :mappy!~mappq@124-197-54-242.callplus.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1278726016 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say... yes on that one < 1278726162 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice document by the way < 1278726191 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes you want to write a small assembler :P < 1278726550 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1278726880 0 :Rafajafar!~chatzilla@pool-96-255-139-175.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278726893 0 :Rafajafar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi2u < 1278727143 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, some data is missing in that document. It doesnt say where the results of instructions are stored < 1278727353 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1278727631 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1278728433 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again, love you Chrome, for just ignoring me when I want to do something < 1278728917 0 :Oranjer!~HP_Admini@adsl-71-0-120.cae.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278729440 0 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278729530 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About to enter the seedy world of script kiddies < 1278729682 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Ethereal 0.99.0 stable? < 1278729698 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I should boot up the winxp vm < 1278729954 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WinXP boots so slowly sometimes. < 1278730949 0 :ski!~slj@c-e812e055.1149-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1278731020 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who wrote "my other car is a cdr" < 1278731023 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO GETS A BEATING < 1278731141 0 :mappy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean wireshark? 0.99.0 is quite old < 1278731217 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, well, apparently that version is the latest one that runs on 98 < 1278731239 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'd be especially worried if a car was a cdr. < 1278731289 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1278731696 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you, creepy survey, for telling me exactly what part of my information you realized was fake < 1278731710 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And btw, 12345 s a real zipcode < 1278731714 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My good God. < 1278731723 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Youtube has started hosting 4K video. < 1278731740 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's 4x1080p. < 1278731771 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... huh? < 1278731788 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: 4096p. < 1278731796 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4096p video. On Youtube. < 1278731796 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I understood that. < 1278731799 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "huh?" < 1278731803 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*1024 < 1278731817 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No thanks, Mr. Survey, I don't want to give you a valid cell number < 1278731822 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why. < 1278731835 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will, however, note that this is IMAX quality video. < 1278731875 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, finally < 1278731893 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, I'm using Chrome, not Firefox < 1278731919 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sir Vey < 1278731966 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are ... Eric Cartman! < 1278731975 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, where's my download < 1278731999 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type in your Twitter username and passwors < 1278732005 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about, no thanks < 1278732030 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er you are _sure_ you're not being fished? < 1278732064 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that I want the dang download at the end < 1278732077 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which itself I don't trust further than I can throw it < 1278732098 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's what Wireshark is for < 1278732204 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Now I look at the source and there's something about clicking something if the download doesn't unlock < 1278732326 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Refreshing the page gave me the file, finally < 1278732391 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And........... it doesn't work, at all < 1278732431 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just crashes < 1278732624 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never thought I'd be happy to see RapidShare < 1278732649 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*phished < 1278732693 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At any rate, I will be testing on a fake account, and monitoring via Wireshark < 1278733184 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that a malicious program might send the data obfuscated or encrypted < 1278733214 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I still haven't figures out how to get it to do reverse DNS automatically < 1278733344 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figured it out, I think. < 1278733665 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278733721 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CWEB compiled the first time, and the program works (it can generate a PDF of the codes), but if I try to compile it again a second time I get a lot of error messages. < 1278733776 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what is wrong? < 1278733777 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/AjRY < 1278733785 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any IRC for CWEB? < 1278733804 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1278733816 0 :CakeProphet!~adam@h42.20.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278734032 0 :Rafajafar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does DOT language count as an esoteric language? < 1278734133 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rafajafar: What DOT language? < 1278734138 0 :Rafajafar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dot < 1278734142 0 :Rafajafar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the graphviz language < 1278734161 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Dot < 1278734170 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not this one? < 1278734176 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about graphviz < 1278734288 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: It is solved. The problem was that it is unable to use the change file /dev/null on Windows, so you need to make a blank file instead. (I might fix CWEB so it doesn't need that) < 1278734693 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rafajafar: For more information about esoteric programming, please see the wiki. < 1278734720 0 :Rafajafar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I've seen it < 1278734725 0 :Rafajafar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just curious... < 1278734734 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rafajafar: By DNA I meant Douglas Adams < 1278734750 0 :Rafajafar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh my favorite author < 1278734760 0 :Rafajafar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fuck, you remembered that? < 1278734793 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was bothering me yesterday that I should have simply said Douglas Adams < 1278734802 0 :Rafajafar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how Aspy of you < 1278734809 0 :Rafajafar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thanks :-D < 1278734884 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yw < 1278735723 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably have to learn a few things about TeX so that I can make some changes in CWEB, such as adding line numbers in the margin, and so on. And then I need to add a "meta-macros" (or "pre pre pre processor macro") mode < 1278735807 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other things I want to change, is so that the " around string constants are not printed in fix pitch (only the actual string text should be fix pitch), and perhaps to make it if you have a code with \ that the \ and letter (or " or so on) after \ will be printed overtyped on the \ in the same place < 1278735835 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1278735838 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, a way to print arrays of structure data as tables < 1278735934 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't like the way the == operator is printed, I should make it print as just one equal sign, and = assignment operator as a left pointing arrow (with space around it). For things like += it can print the + sign above the left arrow < 1278736050 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoN1: what you mean you were _not_ reading the genetic code? how disappointing. < 1278737185 0 :AndChat|!~AndChat@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278737185 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1278737617 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278737996 0 :kwertii!~kwertii@ResNet-33-228.resnet.ucsb.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1278738323 0 :Gregor-Z!438125e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.129.37.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1278738343 0 :Gregor-Z!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laaaawl < 1278738401 0 :Gregor-Z!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Zune: it is made of suck! < 1278738437 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1278738467 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zune HD even :P < 1278738475 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which has a high-definition 480x272 screen. < 1278738495 0 :Rafajafar!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158] < 1278738515 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To zuck or not to zuck, and zoon! < 1278738860 0 :Gregor-Z!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow this thing is terrible. < 1278738894 0 :Gregor-Z!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1278738919 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DIDN'T EVEN DO THAT INTENTIONALLY < 1278738925 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The friggin' UI got me all kerplunked. < 1278740395 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1278740725 0 :Zuu!zuu@0x55529f1b.adsl.cybercity.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1278740725 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1278740725 0 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1278741553 0 :jberryman!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1278741559 0 :mappyg!~mappq@124-197-54-242.callplus.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1278741663 0 :mappu!~mappq@124-197-54-242.callplus.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1278741791 0 :mappy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1278741912 0 :mappyg!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1278742266 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1278742863 0 :Mathnerd314_!~mathnerd3@nat-wireless-guest-reg-158-122.bu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1278743008 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1278743012 0 :Mathnerd314_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Mathnerd314 < 1278744036 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1278744725 0 :kwertii!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: bye < 1278745460 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278745741 0 :AndChat|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1278746227 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1278746482 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278746678 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you write any just intonation music? < 1278747362 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1278747832 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or write any music for any other rational or irrational tunings other than standard 12-TET? < 1278747862 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have experimented with both rational and irrational tunings. < 1278748041 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my opinion, musics written for equal temperament should always be played as equal temperament, and just intonation music played as just intonation. < 1278748356 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One scale I have done is the notes are (x*(3/2)^y) where x ranges from 1 to 8 and y from 0 to 4. < 1278748439 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another one is ((x/8)*(2^y)) where x ranges from 4 to 7 and y is an octave number. < 1278748510 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there are irrational scales, (2^(n/12)) (standard), (3^(n/13)) (Bohlen-Pierce), and (5^(n/30)) (something I was making one day) < 1278748542 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even transcendental tunings! < 1278748799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1278748800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1278748884 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@m-197.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1278748936 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs more complex numbers imo < 1278749540 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION quaternions coppro < 1278749666 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-3-57.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278750034 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes I have even considered tunings with complex numbers. This requires making the sine of complex numbers, and somehow use the real and imaginary components. < 1278750309 0 :Wamanuz!~wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278750656 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I am leaving. You are about to explode. < 1278751414 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1278751643 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1278752261 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278752329 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sine of complex numbers is easy if one has (real) sin and exp functions available. Dunno about using real and imaginary components. < 1278752376 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presence of (real) cos, sinh and cosh speeds things up somewhat, but lack of those is easy to circumvent. < 1278752566 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278752629 0 :mappu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the end of the day, a musical tone is a frequency... and i don't think a complex frequency is that useful < 1278752650 0 :mappu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you have some way of 'hearing' complex frequencies < 1278752711 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If one takes real part of sin(f_z*t+w), the result is exponentially increasing or decreasing volume if f_z has nonzero imaginary component. < 1278752984 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: That is what I meant, doing something like that...... < 1278753006 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then use the imaginary component for something else......?? < 1278753064 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that imaginary component is similar signal, but shifted 90 degrees... < 1278753203 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If one has multiple channels with complex volumes, frequencies and phase shifts, one could use exponential waveforms. And then feed real component to left and imaginary component to right. < 1278753245 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can do that, if you try < 1278753831 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278756868 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1278756974 0 :CakeProphet!~adam@h154.31.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278757096 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I've got some code for my server < 1278757101 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a programming language idea for when I finish the server. < 1278757266 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a semi-lazy prototype table-based language. < 1278757293 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278757321 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with semi-lazy semantics. < 1278757364 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tables are constructed with logical combinators. < 1278757416 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :commands parse words numbers and strings, blocks are commands with an ending {} block < 1278757472 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ucommand defines a user command. If places in the right namespace (on a room, in the global namespace, < 1278757482 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*if placed < 1278757505 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can cause users to activate commands with a special scoping operator. < 1278757516 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@namespace cmd < 1278757559 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :namespace is any table. modules are tables, logical objects are tables, and MUD objects are tables. < 1278757580 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1278757584 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a wacked out MUD scripter. < 1278757715 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually ucommands are commands < 1278757737 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ is the namespace operator that allows you to switch over to MUD objects and go back to code modules as well. < 1278757750 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's cool, is that MUD objects could be built from very interesting table combinators < 1278757769 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, a union of multiple tables, difference, etc. < 1278757771 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of keys. < 1278757789 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1278757804 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the values are variables or commands. < 1278757811 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually good old . might worl < 1278757815 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :namespace.cmd < 1278757913 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but data structures are generally lazy. < 1278758003 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two kinds of data structure. algebraic data types and tables. < 1278758061 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1278758062 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and structural type. So two data types with the same construction are equivalence. < 1278758117 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pairs are the same as linked lists < 1278758290 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I'm using NO SCRIPT WHATSOEVER - Download it at file:///dev/null < 1278759167 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1278759286 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-59-121.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1278760154 0 :comex!comex@c-98-210-154-193.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278760828 0 :FireyFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1278760844 0 :FireyFly!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :FireFly < 1278762512 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1278763256 0 :nooga!~nooga@77-45-52-193.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1278763340 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1278763931 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1278764177 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1278764180 0 :FireFly|n900!~n900@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1278764199 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1278765218 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1278765321 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1278765362 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1278765366 0 :nooga!~nooga@77-45-52-193.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1278765634 0 :CakeProphet!~adam@h190.57.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278765918 0 :MizardX!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1278770019 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1278770309 0 :wareya_!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278770481 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1278771858 0 :hiato!~nine@41-133-204-235.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1278771978 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1278772596 0 :jacob1!~GIORGIO@host32-11-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1278772640 0 :jacob1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciao < 1278772686 0 :jacob1!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1278774750 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1278774916 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : If one takes real part of sin(f_z*t+w), the result is exponentially increasing or decreasing volume if f_z has nonzero imaginary component. < 1278775008 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that if you consider that the frequencies of sound appear by fourier analysis, it doesn't really make sense to use non-real arguments for the sines. < 1278775071 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well unless someone has generalized it and it does. but i don't know about that. < 1278775382 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1278775653 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1278775900 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1278775920 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278776293 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1278776379 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1278776563 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278776572 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278776891 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~nice@p5B14C4A3.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278777088 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1278777263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, how is sin defined for complex values? < 1278777289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from the obvious pun < 1278777311 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sin z = (e^(iz)-e^(-iz))/(2i) < 1278777316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1278777349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I always found it spooky the way that pi, e and trigonometry ties together < 1278777364 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1278777388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, aren't you going to ask what the obvious pun was? < 1278777396 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER < 1278777411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I will tell you anyway then < 1278777414 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed it was something about morals < 1278777415 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, "in hell" < 1278777418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1278777437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it is in fact a class of puns < 1278777459 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't understand the "in hell" part < 1278777474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, forget it < 1278777494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, when considering it I don't understand it either < 1278777503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was obvious a few moments ago though < 1278777525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it passed the best before date < 1278777533 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_very_ quickly < 1278777560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then, best before time < 1278777572 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!!! Something to do with that? < 1278777577 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :best before the big bang < 1278777585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, never heard that before, so no < 1278777589 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas. < 1278777603 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone missed out on memes. :P < 1278777616 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ooh I know the answer to that one! < 1278777619 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me! me! < 1278777631 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMETHING. SOMETHING. SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1278777637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one I know < 1278777642 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same movie. < 1278777660 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :full disclosure: i haven't seen the movie either. < 1278777660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, all your sparta is belong to something we put in your mom so you could lolcats while you lolcats < 1278777661 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I've not seen. < 1278777662 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1278777676 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's memes for you < 1278777680 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nicely done. < 1278777685 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okp: I was the lucid dreaming one < 1278777688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I ran out of memes :P < 1278777705 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least ones I could think of < 1278777713 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okp: when there was litle immediate reward, I lost most of my interest < 1278777728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, oh wait, replace something with mudkips < 1278777738 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mudkips! < 1278777763 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.overclock.net/attachments/hardware-news/123486d1253298081-inq-recompute-cardboard-pc-case-tonight-we-dine-hell.jpg < 1278777799 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, haha < 1278777817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway "hell" would be wrong period for a movie about sparta < 1278777827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, the greek called it something else < 1278777832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to remember what < 1278777836 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hades < 1278777845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes but hades was in three sections iirc < 1278777859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one was like paradise, one like "boring people" and one like hell < 1278777860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1278777866 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there was elysion (the good one) < 1278777869 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1278777872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other two? < 1278777877 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot recall < 1278777881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1278777888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the bit I can't recall either < 1278777902 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, also I don't think it is spelled "elysion" in English and/or Swedish < 1278777906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how it is spelled < 1278777916 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elysium, probably < 1278777917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I distinctly remember an u there < 1278777918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1278777956 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-um is just latinization of the greek < 1278777988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1278778024 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably, "hell" is a perfect translation, because "hell" was referred to as "Hades" in the New Testament. < 1278778032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it *was* in Greek...) < 1278778107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1278778219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, btw there is one meme I missed, as reminded of in another channel: < 1278778222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : init: all your sparta is belong to mudkips we put in your mom so you could lolcats while you lolcats < 1278778222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : how many memes? < 1278778222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<&Samanth0r> OVER 9000 < 1278778232 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1278778257 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, much like Cell's power level, it is indeed over 9000. < 1278778266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1278778277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what is cell here? < 1278778285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where the 9000 thing comes from < 1278778290 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Cell is a character in Dragonball Z. < 1278778296 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :His power level is over 9000. < 1278778323 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They... Dropped power levels soon after. < 1278778389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, understandable XD < 1278778390 0 :Sgeo__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1278778413 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Kinda hard to keep a straight face when you've got exponential power increase going on. < 1278778413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what is the unit btw? < 1278778426 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ah, stereotypical shounen) < 1278778432 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Unspecified! < 1278778434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, just make it a logarithmic scale < 1278778439 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S OVER ACKERMANN! < 1278778447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can do it without seming idiotic < 1278778454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ackermann(1,1)? < 1278778458 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ... Have you ever *seen* DBZ? < 1278778462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, nop < 1278778466 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope* < 1278778487 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was a show which had a rerelease that consisted of remastering the video *and cutting out a third of the series*. < 1278778497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why= < 1278778501 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/=/?/ < 1278778511 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, two thirds. < 1278778515 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND NOTHING WAS LOST. < 1278778529 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think seeming idiotic was among their worries. < 1278778641 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : IT'S OVER ACKERMANN! <-- alternative reply: Nothing to worry about as long as the reading isn't off the scale < 1278778683 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall that they managed to get an entire season into 2 episodes without cutting anything of importance. < 1278778699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh anyone remember that badger meme? Seems to have died out < 1278778723 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER MUSHROOM MUSHROOM! < 1278778733 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's a "yes") < 1278778733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it snake? < 1278778755 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After a couple iterations of that, instead of MUSHROOM MUSHROOM, AAAAAH ITS A SNAKE!!! < 1278778769 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1278778773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that was how it went < 1278778777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember < 1278778798 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember "SNAAAKE, IT'S A SNAAAKE"; but maybe it was a generic shout in front instead. < 1278778930 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278779218 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you people not remember these things < 1278779262 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY BRAIN IS FINITE < 1278779269 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND MADE OF MEATS < 1278779275 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAINMEATS < 1278779279 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's (badger{12} mushroom{2}){4} badger{11} a snake, a snake, snake, a snaaake, ooohhh it's a snake < 1278779330 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278779351 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /might/ have got the 12 and 11 wrong and there may've been some variation there; I know there are occasional plurals and articles ("a") < 1278779440 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Look, progress: http://zem.fi/~fis/bot.png (I managed to extract one of the polygon models, though the picture cheated a bit by setting up parent/child relationships and submodel offsets manually in Blender (based on numbers spewed out by the script) since the .obj file format doesn't support that sort of stuff; I need to figure out a better way to import things to Blender. < 1278779457 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Later < 1278779478 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee progress < 1278779790 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 26 formats in the "import" menu and I have no clue which one would be both really simple to write (like Wavefront .obj is) but also complicated enough to handle a hierarchical object where subobjects have an offset from parent. (Though of course I could "flatten" them down by applying the offsets to the submodel vertices; I don't think those parts actually move, except perhaps when it's morphing between models.) < 1278779867 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should go via VRML; it at least has a structure. < 1278779916 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1278780141 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: underflow < 1278780424 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278780434 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278781072 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278781078 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278781248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's (badger{12} mushroom{2}){4} badger{11} a snake, a snake, snake, a snaaake, ooohhh it's a snake <-- you just checked? < 1278781254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you actually remember that? < 1278781256 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I remember < 1278781277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, when did you last watch it? and did you actually count or did you just remember that after casual viewing? < 1278781287 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, years/months ago < 1278781292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if the latter you have some sort of photographic memory < 1278781302 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've counted it in the past < 1278781305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1278781316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, still you have an exceptionally good memory :P < 1278781324 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I just remember useless things < 1278781330 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1278781331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1278781333 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :wareya < 1278781359 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You have a memory for the most useless things. < 1278781368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many digits of pi? < 1278781399 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944 < 1278781419 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less than before, and might have an error or si < 1278781420 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1278781436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.1415 < 1278781441 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what I remember < 1278781487 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's some number of digits man. < 1278781500 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even 100 :-P < 1278781500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how many do you remember < 1278781514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I just use the pi button :P < 1278781516 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could've sworn you could only have natural, greater-than-or-equal-to-0 digits. < 1278781524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is to 14 decimals on my TI-83+ < 1278781526 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 8. < 1278781535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, still way more than me :P < 1278781562 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good enough to calculate the circumfrence of the Universe to within an atom is good enough for me! < 1278781573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, of course I remember them all. In base pi. < 1278781578 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: :D < 1278781585 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All 2 of them. < 1278781590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1278781597 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.78182818284590452 and 1.6180 for the other two usually-requested constants < 1278781613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, hm what is 1 in base pi of pi is 10? < 1278781627 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/of/if/ < 1278781637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be the integer 1 I assume? < 1278781676 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, e and uh... phi? < 1278781683 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1278781696 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Graham's! < 1278781714 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2.7 but round upwards" and "1.6" < 1278781716 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah no < 1278781720 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the bits I remember of those < 1278781741 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1278781758 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you people remember your phone numbers? :-P < 1278781765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, my own no < 1278781768 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1278781768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my landline yes < 1278781772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my mobile < 1278781786 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes. That is the only phone number I know. < 1278781790 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do however remember numbers I call often < 1278781795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two ones < 1278781823 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a notable lack of the Alise today. < 1278781824 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the first phone number I added to my mobile phone; I haven't called it in years (ever?) and it may not be valid any longer < 1278781851 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect he's either been sent to the death panel or in Norway by now. < 1278781859 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition to my own, my parents' now-nonexisting landline's, and two or three others < 1278781897 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, death panel? < 1278781918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, also poor oerjan < 1278781947 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: American politics joke. It was claimed that universal health care was going to make death panels to DETERMINE WHO WOULD DIE! < 1278781962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, waaaaaat < 1278781963 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this were true, clearly the UK would have one and Alise would be before one. < 1278781965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :th* < 1278781977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: US politics is fucking nuts. < 1278781992 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, this was in some political cartoon or such? < 1278782007 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People seriously claimed that universal health care would result in people over 60 being sent before a death panel to determine whether or not they should *remain alive*. < 1278782023 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, this was the position of the Republican Party. < 1278782032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaath < 1278782041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/th/t/ < 1278782049 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I happen to mention that US politics is fucking nuts? < 1278782060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yes but even so... < 1278782073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also believe that in every other country there's several-year waiting lists for all procedures. < 1278782084 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that the US has the best health care system in the world. < 1278782107 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: How many bankruptcies do you see from health care costs there? < 1278782112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, not for all procedures. Mostly for transplanting < 1278782117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, none < 1278782127 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and those same waitlists exist for transplants here. < 1278782129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a state can't go bankrupt < 1278782138 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, I mean people. < 1278782146 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still none, right? < 1278782154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, none in Sweden at least < 1278782160 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, something like 60% of all bankruptcies are because of healthcare costs. < 1278782168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to pay up to a max limit of some 1500 SEK or such iirc < 1278782188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you can't afford that there are ways to get help with it < 1278782190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :200 USD? < 1278782200 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... Freaking ridiculous. < 1278782202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, don't know, try google to convert < 1278782214 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, too high? too low? < 1278782218 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a single visit to a doctor's office or something. < 1278782227 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(before insurance) < 1278782234 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, no, that costs about 100 SEK or such in general < 1278782240 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which not everyone has) < 1278782244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe 200 for specialists < 1278782256 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yeah, in the US you can't get any care for that little. < 1278782269 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even counting insurance. < 1278782301 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And people felt that this was the best thing in the world. < 1278782316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, of course most health care is run by state in Sweden. Though there are some private practitioners too. But the amount of paper work to be allowed to run private healthcare is ridiculous I heard < 1278782318 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having a system where the average person can barely afford regular appointments. < 1278782370 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Can't beat the paperwork involved in private healthcare in the US. Each insurance company (and there's *several*) has their own paperwork to deal with in order to be able to deal with them. < 1278782396 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, heh < 1278782406 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And *then* there's Medicare. (the government-funded healthcare system for those permanently disabled and over 60 years of age) < 1278782409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there are many insurance companies here too < 1278782422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know that works in Sweden < 1278782434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean paperwork for being able to run private health care legally < 1278782463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, yeah, there's probably a bit more of that. < 1278782472 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US just tops you in paperwork to run it practically. < 1278782475 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1278782575 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, this was also fun. Another talking point of the Republicans: "Keep the government's hands out of our Medicare!" < 1278782586 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Medicare, once again, *is run by the government*) < 1278782638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea for renaming: Republicans → Idots; Democrats → Somewhat less idiots < 1278782651 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct. < 1278782665 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, where are the non-idiots? < 1278782677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, in Europe or powerless < 1278782685 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Highly marginalised by our press. < 1278782699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1278782737 0 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-235-58.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1278782744 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the interests of the owners of our press. < 1278782868 0 :vtor!~vtor@unaffiliated/vtor JOIN :#esoteric < 1278782907 0 :vtor!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1278782919 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is clearly a bit bitter about stuff. < 1278783077 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, you live in US. Only to be expected < 1278783143 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing we're allowed to spend on is pointless waste projects to appease other senators, and the military. Joy. < 1278783154 0 :FireFly|n900|!~n900@c-b21cd84a-74736162.cust.telenor.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1278783349 0 :FireFly|n900!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1278783391 0 :FireFly|n900|!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :FireFly|n900 < 1278783572 0 :jberryman!~jberryman@c-24-125-153-250.hsd1.va.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278783824 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Heh-eh, I converted my .obj output mess to instead write a hierarchical VRML 1.0 file that has separate nodes (with translations) for the submodels. Then I imported it into Blender: it ignored the translations, *and* folded all polygon faces into a single mesh. At least the .obj importer can separate different groups to different objects. < 1278783842 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saluton, vi. Kiel vi fartas? < 1278783961 0 :FireFly|n900!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1278784026 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malesperantkomprenas, mi pensas. < 1278784527 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1278785215 0 :FireFly|n900!~n900@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1278785349 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1278785403 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278786023 0 :CakeProphet!~adam@h200.42.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278786109 0 :Gregor-W!836b416f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.65.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1278786433 0 :okp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1278786454 0 :jberryman!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1278786912 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1278786981 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278787846 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1278788351 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1278788397 0 :SevenInchBread!~adam@h18.42.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278788512 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1278788990 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278789049 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to make TeX so that the plus sign appears above the left arrow but without too much space in between, so it is closer together, and does not become hard to read with the text on the above line? < 1278789076 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did get it to put the plus sign above the left arrow but it is not close enough together < 1278789080 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like the sort of thing LaTeX is good for < 1278789099 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a command for combining text, etc, above an operator, although I can't remember what it is offhand < 1278789114 0 :calamari!~kidsquid@206.29.188.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1278789128 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1278789130 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what it is < 1278789132 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme check < 1278789176 0 :calamari!~kidsquid@206.29.188.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1278789178 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1278789182 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far this is what I have: \def\MRL#1{\mathrel{\let\K=\relax#1{}\above0pt\leftarrow}} < 1278789186 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just used \kern < 1278789196 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it makes it too far away and hard to read because it is too close the above line < 1278789198 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also \overset < 1278789245 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1278789357 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi calamari < 1278789365 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen you here for ages, if ever < 1278789377 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I respect what you do in the esolang world < 1278789388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, try the normal over-thingy plus some negative spacers < 1278789389 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It be calamari again. < 1278789393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray, squid! < 1278789543 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: funny, i ve been here a lot lately < 1278789555 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but I haven't < 1278789561 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a habit of missing people who come here intermittently < 1278789562 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh hehe < 1278789574 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Actually I did try putting a negative number there in place of 0pt and it doesn't work < 1278789576 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if they live in a different timezone < 1278789813 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any negative number is just like zero, it seems < 1278790465 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-9-88.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278790654 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278790966 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-9-206.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278791169 0 :sebbu2!sebbu@cl-170.mrs-01.fr.sixxs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278791175 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278791278 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1278791278 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1278791768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, try a negative vspace? < 1278791773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever the term is < 1278792521 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Actually, I looked at the "TeX for the Impatient" book, and found the \overleftarrow command, so I used that instead and that works like how I wanted (except I wanted the arrow underneath, but above is OK, too, as long as it is consistent) < 1278792574 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have: \def\MRL#1{\mathrel{\let\K=\relax\overleftarrow{#1}}} < 1278792640 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do still have a question: How can I make it print line numbers in the margin? < 1278793522 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1278793533 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, how can I do overtyping in TeX so that two things appear in the same place? < 1278794121 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278794400 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my definition of compiler must be off < 1278794421 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was simply a translator, but an assembler translates, so unless an assembler is a compiler... < 1278794510 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: An assembler is a particular kind of compiler. < 1278794603 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose even different assembler programs might have a few extra features or some things missing < 1278794612 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRP> Please, compile some Japanese into English < 1278794622 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there is also "High-Level-Assembler" < 1278795686 0 :Gregor-W!836b416f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.65.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1278795743 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278795992 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've done overtyping in LaTex with "\makebox[0pt][l]{... stuff ...}... more stuff ...", where the 0pt-width \makebox makes it think the first "... stuff ..." doesn't take any space, so it puts "... more stuff ..." on top of it. I doubt this is relevant any more, though. < 1278796887 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the script does special things with special tiles (burning tile has kind of lava texture, slippery tile looks icy/glassy, boost tile has stripes running forward, sticky tile has stripes running backward and suppiles blocks have stripes). Additionally there is sky texture. < 1278796979 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks a lot nicer. HD render of Skyroads is at approx 3.4k frames out of 48k. < 1278797405 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: I look forward to seeing the final resuly < 1278797406 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*result < 1278797537 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, its only missing some music... But that's more difficult thing than graphics side... < 1278798161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I do still have a question: How can I make it print line numbers in the margin? <-- trying to remember < 1278798164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I fail at it < 1278798261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, can you upload a partial preview? < 1278798463 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HQ encode is already 43MB. Wonder how large the final HD one will be... < 1278798829 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, before uploading this to YT (if I wind up uploading it there), I need to make 2304p (4K) version. :-) < 1278799183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, HQ? < 1278799220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, what about uploading some awesome looking frames? < 1278799378 0 :Wamanuz2!~wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278799426 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the most avesome frames are at fairly end, but I think there's some good screenshot material within already rendered segment... < 1278799452 0 :Wamanuz3!~wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278799566 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1278799654 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1278799669 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://imagebin.ca/view/E-h-TiiW.html (I resized it to 720p). < 1278799694 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That shows the burning block being lava. < 1278799825 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: Perhaps you could snatch some NASA pictures for the background; that fluffy-clouds thing doesn't really suggest "you might run out of air" to me. < 1278799844 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, texture coordinates for extracted polygon models: http://zem.fi/~fis/bot2.png < 1278799936 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imagebin.ca/view/LRA3qf.html shows the slippery texture (looks bit too glassy instead of icy to me, but...) < 1278799988 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit too mirrory to look icy. < 1278799996 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1278800080 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One fun thing is that it needs (almost) 2Ï€ sterradians of background image data. < 1278800203 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that I do need to keep the Descent submodels as separate entities, because the recorded demo includes a list of rotation angles for each submodel separately (so apparently the bots do move their arms and so on). < 1278800261 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make it look really cool, one would have to redo the models to be less polygon-y. < 1278800362 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From those renders one can see why there's no finished Stellar Express. Basically, that game sucks if view is too low. < 1278800457 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| constructions < 1278800466 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CakeProphet < 1278800692 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ec < 1278800784 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, I'm not "TAS anything Skyroads" (there's one guy who's "TAS anything shining") guy (otherwise I would TAS Kosmonaut too). < 1278800855 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it needs more than 2Ï€ sterradians, as one can get backreflections from slippery floors. < 1278800939 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, I think the space angle needed is two times the display area (forward and backward beams). < 1278801069 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1278801078 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the level 1 demo it seems I need just 9 polygon models (5 7 32 39 40 46 62 64 75) in renderable quality. Though then there are all the sprite-based effects and animations to recreate. Fneh. < 1278801275 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Lua script that reads the level and movment descriptions and makes the scenes and calls povray to render them: "375 2405 13389 ../map-to-pov". Not exactly small. < 1278801348 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've managed to construct quite a bit of Perl for this insanity, too: http://sprunge.us/SSfS < 1278801494 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1278801544 0 :CakeProphet!~adam@h136.60.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1278801632 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1278801638 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278802052 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have liked to decode the level data from ROADS.LZS instead of using memory dump, but I don't know how to decode the tile data. Oh, well. < 1278802161 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278802169 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278802626 0 :ec!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Voldemort < 1278802642 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278802649 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278802674 0 :Voldemort!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ec < 1278802677 0 :ec!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :elliottcable < 1278803017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: http://imagebin.ca/view/E-h-TiiW.html (I resized it to 720p). <-- cool < 1278803065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://imagebin.ca/view/LRA3qf.html shows the slippery texture (looks bit too glassy instead of icy to me, but...) <-- cool < 1278803078 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10k frames done... < 1278803204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : From those renders one can see why there's no finished Stellar Express. Basically, that game sucks if view is too low. <-- ? < 1278803241 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing 10k frames took about 2 and half hours... < 1278803266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, not too bad < 1278803276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it would take far longer on my computer < 1278803283 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's demo for game called stellar express, which would have been fourth game in series, but it was canceled because the makers couldn't make it fun. < 1278803317 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what series? < 1278803351 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skyroads (there's three games related to that). < 1278803376 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278803385 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And worse yet, there are two games that internally call themselves "Skyroads". < 1278803446 0 :calamari!~kidsquid@206.29.188.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1278803450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, eh < 1278803451 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1278803452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1278803472 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mentioned the series, I missed it < 1278803472 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skyroads Xmas special is at least marked as "Skyroads Xmas special". But Cosmonaut internally calls itself "Skyroads". < 1278803481 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Kosmonaut. < 1278803516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1278803547 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was my quit message btw? < 1278803561 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Connection closed (as system message). < 1278803570 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1278803591 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. Read(2) gave 0 (end of stream). < 1278803643 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the oom killer destoryed it when I ran out ofmemory.. android browser takes a lot < 1278803708 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This computer has 50MB available RAM, but I think it could take few GB from caches if needed... < 1278803724 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cache size is about 5.5GB. < 1278803757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* calamari has quit (Remote host closed the connection) < 1278803760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was what I saw < 1278803761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, ^ < 1278803769 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay cool < 1278803795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, I WANT YOUR RAM ;) < 1278803800 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this phone has 192 MB ram.. more than your computer? < 1278803811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, no I have 1.5 GB RAM in my desktop < 1278803813 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh available < 1278803816 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 4 GB in my laptop < 1278803818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, in total < 1278803819 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant < 1278803835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : total used free shared buffers cached < 1278803835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mem: 1503 1335 168 0 44 429 < 1278803835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-/+ buffers/cache: 861 642 < 1278803845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swap: 4094 201 3892 < 1278803860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the swap is... reasonably fast. Split over two disks < 1278803866 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what command did you use to get that? < 1278803871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, free -m < 1278803884 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ swapon -s < 1278803884 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filename Type Size Used Priority < 1278803884 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/sda3 partition 2096476 103388 1 < 1278803884 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/sdb3 partition 2096476 103292 1 < 1278803886 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, gotta try it < 1278803888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1278803891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc fails at tabs < 1278803916 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I deactivated my swap, it was killing my microsd cards < 1278803937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this thing has 2x 1 TB SATA < 1278803942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in RAID 1 for all but swap < 1278803945 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1278803959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and harddrives < 1278803961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not SSD < 1278803976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap separate partitions are separate but same priority < 1278803978 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278803979 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer is obsolete, but that's ok < 1278803983 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278803986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means kernel will do interleaved access to it < 1278803992 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, so is this. CPU from 2004 < 1278803993 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works great for what I use it for < 1278804009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, a Sempron 3300+ < 1278804018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptop has a more modern CPU < 1278804029 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :core 2 duo here < 1278804039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that is what is in my laptop < 1278804047 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.13 GHz I think? < 1278804071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.61 GHz in my laptop iirc < 1278804072 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1gb ram, 250 gb sata hd hehe < 1278804075 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 GHz in my desktop < 1278804083 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :200 GB SATA < 1278804089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for laptop < 1278804101 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is a thinkpad. Will last for ages < 1278804104 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5.25" and 3.5" floppy drives :) < 1278804111 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, in laptop!? < 1278804122 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no this is my tower < 1278804126 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1278804137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a non-working 3.5" floppy drive in it < 1278804143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if connected bios errors out < 1278804146 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This computer was brought not becoming too slow to be useful soon in mind (probably not going to get new one soon). That's why it has fairly high specs. < 1278804152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just happened one day < 1278804155 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my laptop is old, got it when someone upgraded hehe < 1278804194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, my desktop was upper-mid segment when I got it! < 1278804202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for my laptop, battery time was important < 1278804202 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its way better than my first laptop, which had a 486 dx4 50mhz and 24mb ram .. lol < 1278804221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, my first laptop had a 300 MHz PPC < 1278804256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first computer as well < 1278804264 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it for school so I could run turbo assembler and etc in class, worked great for that < 1278804274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1278804276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, age? < 1278804296 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32, you? < 1278804302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, 20 < 1278804313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :explains a lot < 1278804328 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1278804330 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first computer was an ibm xt clone (8088) with 640k ram and 20mb hard drive < 1278804342 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running Xenix < 1278804350 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish < 1278804359 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :running ms-dos 3.30 < 1278804363 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooooh < 1278804368 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had directories by then, right? < 1278804378 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1278804382 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1278804429 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh foo, next week's my birthday then I'll be 24. Can't possibly make some inane argument about how I'm in my "early 20s" any more. < 1278804438 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dos shell sucks pretty bad compared to bash, but you had complete control of the computer, so that part was awesome < 1278804448 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernels are for losers. < 1278804467 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ms-dos had a kernel.. kinda lol < 1278804498 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but respect.. it was hand coded in asm < 1278804511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, middle aged then ;P < 1278804512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1278804520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too close to that age to be able to claim it < 1278804524 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Thanks for the confidence that I'll die at 48 < 1278804531 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278804541 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a 386 I had with a 40 MB disk, and it had to be partitioned into two pieces because DOS didn't support file systems more than 32 MB huge. (DOS 3.2? 3.33? I seem to think 3.33 was the one that broke free of that particular limit, but it could've been some later one too.) < 1278804558 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, XD < 1278804587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, which day in next week? So I know when to congratulate you < 1278804600 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly one week from today. < 1278804621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1278804627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds to calender < 1278804634 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How creepy :P < 1278804638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, XD < 1278804646 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster gonna give him a birthday bj? < 1278804653 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bj? < 1278804657 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1278804658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF ONLY I COULD FIND MY PHONE < 1278804663 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhh < 1278804666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, no, dj < 1278804674 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1278804682 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there it is < 1278804692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, I'm terrible at remembering things -_- < 1278804705 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote anmaster gonna give him a birthday bj? IF ONLY I COULD FIND MY PHONE < 1278804711 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This makes sufficiently little sense to quote :P < 1278804715 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :193| anmaster gonna give him a birthday bj? IF ONLY I COULD FIND MY PHONE < 1278804738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1278804753 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They sure do make advanced smartphones nowadays! < 1278804756 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish my phone had THAT feature lol < 1278804778 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well lesse, there's Encountr, that's pretty close (if you have an Android) < 1278804796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF ONLY I COULD FIND MY TI-83+ < 1278804802 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278804807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to calculate which year to put in the phone) < 1278804808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there it is < 1278804808 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1278804813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1986 then < 1278804822 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're upping the creepy here. < 1278804831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, I know. It was intentional < 1278804843 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, it refuses to add bday notation without you giving a year < 1278804860 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Now if only I could find his birth minute and then adjust for timezones! < 1278804864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, the thing is, that is the ONLY way I will remember to congratulate it < 1278804870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, XD < 1278804872 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, you could just ... not? < 1278804880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, that would be rude < 1278804886 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of an odd thing to congratulate anyway ... < 1278804890 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bday? < 1278804890 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You managed not to die this year!" < 1278804895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"happy bday" < 1278804897 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you have it, facebook will tell me < 1278804903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is USUAL to congratulate it < 1278804909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, I don't have facebook < 1278804911 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Maybe I'm just a grim person :P < 1278804930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, also aren't you happy you didn't die this year < 1278804939 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough X-P < 1278804943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, would it be better if we congratulated your death? < 1278804949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I hope we won't < 1278804952 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster then you're missing out on gregors extreme (ultimate?) croquet pics < 1278804957 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's also creepy. And people totally do. < 1278804959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, what? < 1278804975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, apart from villains? < 1278804975 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: And my super-insightful posts X-P < 1278805003 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: A wake just has a different label, but it's otherwise the same :P < 1278805006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume Gregor-W can use codu.org for it < 1278805028 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of my extreme croquet pics are from other people who tagged me. < 1278805031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, no people feel sorry for that person there and it isn't a party as such < 1278805046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, "extreme croquet pics" < 1278805050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf do you mean < 1278805055 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pictures. < 1278805057 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of croquet. < 1278805058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is imperative that I do not use facebook < 1278805060 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the extreme variety. < 1278805068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, extreme in what way? < 1278805070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :extreme setting? < 1278805088 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like halfway up a mountain? With flamingos? < 1278805111 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1278805121 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See e.g. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30466996&l=e7806e6190&id=1055580469 (which does not require a FB account to view) < 1278805164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, ah, how did that happen, and strange way to hold the club < 1278805221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, suggestion croquet-chessboxing < 1278805230 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suggestion:* < 1278805256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, for the latter in case you haven't heard of it, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_boxing < 1278805272 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of it :P < 1278805274 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But noes :P < 1278805311 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See also http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30180711&l=d3b858761c&id=1055580469 < 1278805316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, yeses < 1278805337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, trenchcoat!? < 1278805346 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was very cold that day :P < 1278805352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, you should totally have chosemytrenchcoat < 1278805360 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I only have one ... < 1278805365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1278805366 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And people keep harassing me over the lack of choosemytie < 1278805372 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And choosemyshirt < 1278805374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1278805377 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically people want to dress me every morning. < 1278805387 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably because when I dress myself I look all flamboyant and eccentric? < 1278805391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, a 1:1 scale barbie! < 1278805400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs < 1278805402 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1278805411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, sorry about that one < 1278805457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1278805554 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anwho, considering the fact that I am currently wearing an orange shirt with a yellow-and-purple tie and a "steel"-colored hat, I can understand why people who aren't me think they can dress me better than I can :P < 1278805562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, "So much fury. So much result. So little of value (the ball moved about a foot)." < 1278805573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you aren't very good at playing? :/ < 1278805584 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The leaves made that shot more difficult than it looks :P < 1278805586 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, use your own colour matcher! < 1278805592 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I do. Inverted. < 1278805599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, why... < 1278805608 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make everyone's eyes bleed. < 1278805633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, why do you want that < 1278805646 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? :P < 1278805658 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this orange shirt and this yellow tie TOTALLY go together. < 1278805661 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, wait, why are you at work on Sunday? < 1278805664 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regardless of what anyone else says. < 1278805666 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Saturday. < 1278805671 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that that's much of an answer :P < 1278805677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, question still stands < 1278805694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with changed day < 1278805695 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadline on Monday and stuff's not done. < 1278805699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1278805701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go doing them < 1278805703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1278805781 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am! < 1278805925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you are chatting here < 1278805939 0 :Gregor-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHILE doing work! < 1278806247 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1278806372 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-W, see #microcosm