< 1275868818 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen this error message somewhere: "Passwords with a letter 'I' in the third position are not supported. Please choose a different password." < 1275868885 0 :pineapple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what??? < 1275868977 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't get this error myself, I saw it elsewhere) < 1275869079 0 :name_!~c13c4482@gateway/web/freenode/x-cdnngtgxbdxjpggs JOIN :#esoteric < 1275869183 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making modifications to ngIRCd program, I should call it a name a bit difference, what should I call it? < 1275869187 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is already called ngIRCd, I want this one called a bit different, I will release the codes after I implement "ChannelTypes" option (currently it is hard-coded, and that is no good), and maybe "SummonType" and "SummonTimer", and SUMMON CTHULHU command, and possibly other fixes, and a document explaining the new features < 1275869191 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use it because it is work on Cygwin and on Linux, and it is pure C codes not too many features that I don't need, and that I can modify the C codes to change some things < 1275869213 0 :pineapple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngircd ? < 1275869246 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use ngIRCd on my own computer. (And you can see the changes, there, too.) < 1275869247 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : game theory? < 1275869248 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1275869304 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1275869472 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :titForTat :: Prisoner < 1275869472 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :titForTat opp = C : opp < 1275869480 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how should titForTwoTats be written? :/ < 1275869483 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be kinda complicated < 1275869488 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we have to store state in a way < 1275869600 0 :pineapple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 tats? < 1275869627 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1275869636 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the other player defects, T42T (tit for two tats) still cooperates < 1275869640 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the other player then defects again < 1275869643 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making it twice in a row < 1275869645 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T42T defects < 1275869664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that if there is a cooperate in between two defects T42T still cooperates, it's only two in a row) < 1275869905 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :malcontentC :: Prisoner < 1275869906 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :malcontentC opp = C : map other opp where other C = D; other D = C < 1275869906 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :malcontentD :: Prisoner < 1275869906 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :malcontentD opp = D : map other opp where other C = D; other D = C < 1275869920 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both do amusingly well against tit for tat :P < 1275869972 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems. < 1275869977 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people, in an effort to sound intelligent, quote other people. Now they look retarded. < 1275869987 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I'm going to grab a sandwich." Now they have two problems because the sandwich is poisoned. < 1275869991 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both draw with themselves, but malcontentD kicks malcontentC's ass < 1275870001 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people, when, now they have, a problem. < 1275870011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "Some people, when confronted with a problem, think 'Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "Stack overflow. < 1275870036 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes. < 1275870063 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275870064 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, anyone want to submit haskell iterated prisoner's dilemma players? :P < 1275870079 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a lambda expression; you get a list of Actions and return a list of Actions; Action = C | D < 1275870090 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use recursion with fix, that is permissable < 1275870102 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :always cooperates: fix (\r -> C:r) < 1275870107 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :always defects: fix (\r -> D:r) < 1275870113 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tit for tat: (\opp -> C:opp) < 1275870124 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you played a game "Elemental Solitaire"? It has four elements (the four suits of the cards), but I want to figure out a way to make it work with five elements, do you know? < 1275870141 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't. < 1275870145 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, sorry < 1275870174 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: BUT HAVE YOU PLAYED ITERATED PRISONER'S DILEMMA ...IN HASKELL < 1275870181 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems dumb < 1275870192 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://quidjfravzgembtchowlkspynx.com/elemental/help.htm That's the Elemental solitaire rules < 1275870205 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better challenge: calculate the odds that a game of Aces Up is winnable < 1275870277 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you're dumb < 1275870285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is already called ngIRCd, I want this one called a bit different, I will release the codes after I implement "ChannelTypes" option (currently it is hard-coded, and that is no good), and maybe "SummonType" and "SummonTimer", and SUMMON CTHULHU command, and possibly other fixes, and a document explaining the new features <-- what do you mean channel types? < 1275870292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me there is only one tyle < 1275870294 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: # + & etc < 1275870294 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type* < 1275870298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well okay < 1275870306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only ircnet uses it basically < 1275870307 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 uses only + channels, modeless < 1275870310 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, # + & and so on. (ngIRCd does not support ! type channels) < 1275870328 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anything? < 1275870346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, so, why is it being hard coded an issue? isn't the logic for in which ways they differ going to have to be hard coded anyway < 1275870358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, either that or loading dynamically linked modules < 1275870358 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone register jackdawslovemybigsphinxofquartz.org < 1275870360 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean which channel types are available to be used. < 1275870361 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have one page < 1275870362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying < 1275870363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or *shudder* a scripting language < 1275870367 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog." < 1275870368 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and vice versa < 1275870380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, ah < 1275870395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, do it yourself < 1275870400 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if you set ChannelTypes=#&+ then all three channel types are available, which would be the default. < 1275870407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no < 1275870426 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(When ! type channels are supported, the default will be #&!+ instead) < 1275870573 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on an unrelated note, holy shit I just won a game of Aces Up < 1275870588 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: With real cards or by computer? < 1275870598 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer < 1275870611 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've won 2 cardboard, 1 data games < 1275870619 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Is using PySolFC? < 1275870622 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1275870632 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no automatic assistance < 1275870666 0 :aoper!~joshua@S01060011243f2bfa.ok.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275870667 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In PySolFC you can turn off automatic assistance for any game. PySolFC is slow to start up, however. < 1275871138 0 :kdvh!~name@fw-ahshg10-resnet-1.gre.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1275871172 0 :kdvh!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1275871216 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, why not? < 1275871235 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a damn fool who would waste my money on such things! < 1275871254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, XD < 1275871262 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1275871367 0 :name_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Navigating dual screens with mouse keys is so tedious... < 1275871391 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest either abandoning dual screens or BUYING A MOUSE. < 1275871411 0 :name_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mouse stopped working yesterday < 1275871423 0 :name_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't bought a new one yet >.< < 1275871792 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Navigating dual screens with mouse keys is so tedious... <-- same goes for mouse keys on ONE screen < 1275871808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I want a model M with a track point < 1275871816 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they exist. < 1275871817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas that doesn't exist afaik < 1275871823 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, what? wow? < 1275871825 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have existed for a long time < 1275871828 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both by ibm, and unicomp < 1275871841 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they're not quite as good as real trackpoints, but meh < 1275871842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, terminal edition? I want F24! < 1275871858 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/en104wh.html the unicomp nipple model < 1275871868 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ibm made pretty much every keyboard ever with a trackpoint < 1275871871 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a bad trackball < 1275871884 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I want a good trackpoint though < 1275871889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as in modern thinkpads < 1275871896 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the endurapro's is good, apparently. < 1275871903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have better acceleration characteristics than older thinkpads < 1275871910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the things lenovo did right < 1275871970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, okay, now I want a space cadet keyboard with a trackpoint ;P < 1275871995 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a space cadet < 1275871997 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ones are those again < 1275872006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, LISP machines < 1275872043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, remember? < 1275872052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have () nonshifted and such < 1275872061 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah those. < 1275872066 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just buy a lisp machine < 1275872073 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$600 or so for a vintage model (but still unused) < 1275872074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, but trackpoint? < 1275872076 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to like $1200 iirc < 1275872079 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no. < 1275872081 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who cares < 1275872084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1275872104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :space cadet + track point + dvorak = big win < 1275872108 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also = impossible < 1275872163 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dudes < 1275872183 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a language which has logic literals of 'Yes' and 'No' as opposed to the boring True/False? < 1275872190 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolog? sort of < 1275872193 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in the query output though < 1275872198 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1275872321 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1275872348 0 :relet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1275872540 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@CPE001b115db0ae-CM0018c0c24ffc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1275872555 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1275872561 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@CPE001b115db0ae-CM0018c0c24ffc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1275872751 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Cool = Yes | No deriving (Show, Read, Enum, Bounded) < 1275872769 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1275872778 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Cool = No | Yes deriving (Show, Read, Enum, Bounded) < 1275872884 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1275872890 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: WRITE A PRISONER < 1275873145 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prisoner g p l = zipWith tweak (C:l) (randoms g) where tweak opp x | x > p = x; tweak C _ = D; tweak D _ = C < 1275873184 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: erm < 1275873189 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prisoner is [Action] -> [Action] < 1275873203 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just select g and p < 1275873211 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to be what < 1275873241 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g :: StdGen; p :: Double (preferrably slightly > 0) < 1275873246 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also randoms doesn't seem to be in prelude... < 1275873257 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.Random < 1275873295 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this strategy exactly? < 1275873302 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it tit-for-tat-except-maybe-kind-in-face-of-D? < 1275873325 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes + maybe-defect-in-face-of-C < 1275873332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Double' < 1275873332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `Action' < 1275873332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: D < 1275873332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the definition of `tweak': tweak C _ = D < 1275873348 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1275873360 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*prisoner g p l = zipWith tweak (C:l) (randoms g) where tweak opp x | x > p = opp; tweak C _ = D; tweak D _ = C < 1275873417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind if I call it indecisive? < 1275873420 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or unsure, which do you think is better < 1275873424 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what do you MEAN i should test things?) < 1275873434 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fickle < 1275873435 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what's the thing to create a stdgen from an int? < 1275873442 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fickle is good < 1275873446 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkStdGen < 1275873497 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p should be infinitesimal? < 1275873505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no < 1275873507 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just low < 1275873518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.125? or more? < 1275873530 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: & shouldn't it be Rational, not Double, really? < 1275873533 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does stdgen not do rational... < 1275873537 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere around 1/no. tries? < 1275873546 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there's a Rational instance < 1275873556 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, what do you know about PBF? < 1275873624 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: a bit; why? < 1275873646 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted you to say something about the author stopping < 1275873657 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: it's not stopped, just on a severely reduced schedule. < 1275873665 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't think you get to introspect the number of tries :P < 1275873679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> result 10 titForTat (fickle (mkStdGen 42) (1/10)) < 1275873679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(27,32) < 1275873679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> result 100 titForTarce code? < 1275881194 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it did. it was published < 1275881198 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1275881202 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1275881202 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1275881206 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1275881230 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night, and good luck < 1275881258 0 :name_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That beard is awesome, but impractical. < 1275881294 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ok jus thot u mite b a bit slpy < 1275881305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: Please die. < 1275881365 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1275881369 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd sleep, but on the other hand that would result in me not being on this thing until Friday, so if I can prolong it a bit longer I might as well. Hmm, how long until I have to be up. Six hours. < 1275881396 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what thing? < 1275881400 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why until friday? < 1275881404 0 :name_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget sleeping then. It is what I am doing. < 1275881805 0 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275881882 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1275882058 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing = computer < 1275882066 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until friday = if you don't know, then you haven't been paying attention. < 1275882082 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually if you could all make it a running gag not to tell cheater99 while i'm gone that would be gerat. < 1275882084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*great < 1275882086 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going soon < 1275882167 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hadn't < 1275882171 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO KILL ME < 1275882188 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so you mean that place you're goin' to < 1275882198 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember now < 1275882204 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry WERE WITH U < 1275882204 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1275882283 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do realise you're incredibly irritating? < 1275882297 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, and I'm saying that; I'm probably the most irritating person here. Well, second most. < 1275882299 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*second-most < 1275882337 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's still dark outside, so of course I won't sleep." < 1275882702 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1275882705 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant what i said < 1275882714 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be so uppity < 1275882715 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that doesn't stop you being irritating. < 1275882735 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1275882773 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it doesn't. < 1275882963 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you saying i am irritating < 1275882986 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you are! < 1275883211 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think that < 1275883245 0 :name_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1275883615 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4:06; ok, really soon. < 1275883618 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*okay < 1275883850 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1275883929 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1275884042 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok alise < 1275884042 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way < 1275884042 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might hate me < 1275884042 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, stay safe sweetie < 1275884043 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttyl <3 < 1275884185 0 :name_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: . < 1275884899 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know now how I could make Elemental solitaire with five elements, somehow? < 1275884904 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any ideas? < 1275885009 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does Elemental Solitaire with four elements look like? < 1275885153 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have a passing interest in logic? < 1275885158 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and proof systems < 1275885170 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The elements are the four suits of cards. There is a 4x4 grid with the corners cut off, there is 12 piles 4 card each, and 4 spares. < 1275885200 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a bit of a headache due to dealing with his step-mother :( < 1275885221 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is rules about geometry, are "blocks" (2x2 area of 4 piles), "crosses" (one card on each point of the cross, and inside is the center area), "extremities" < 1275885242 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you win once all cards are removed according to blocks of 4 cards all different suit. < 1275885463 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of another idea in ngIRCd, the configuration for each remote server should also have a "ChannelTypes" option, to set which channel types are allowed to be forwarded/checked on another server (for example, irc.barton.de supports #&+ but irc.farlight.eu supports # only) (& type should never be forwarded, so the default should be #+ (or #!+ if ! type is implemented)) < 1275885469 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1275885512 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is an example of what can go wrong: < 1275885521 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>JOIN +test < 1275885525 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :+test < 1275885529 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::irc.bit.netz 353 zzo38 = +test :zzo38 < 1275885534 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::irc.bit.netz 366 zzo38 +test :End of NAMES list < 1275885538 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::irc.farlight.eu 403 zzo38 +test :No such channel < 1275885550 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See> < 1275885553 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1275885793 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the router should be configured using FTP, using any other protocol is not as good, in my opinion < 1275886757 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@bas5-toronto47-1088893966.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1275887542 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1275888734 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1275891159 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :servers in the same network shouldn't operate with different option sets anyway < 1275891171 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also +channels are the most useless thing ever < 1275891202 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+channel? < 1275891205 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :modeless < 1275891214 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+chans are a modeless global channel < 1275891221 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never did understand the point < 1275891281 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anarchy! < 1275891290 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like get flooded and can't protect yourself < 1275891300 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :modeless means no +n, too < 1275891664 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wtf < 1275891672 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops, wrong channel, you don't care about my tetris! < 1275891765 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's turing-complete, we do < 1275891896 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, Sgeo_'s probably right < 1275891926 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd care about a turing-complete pencil < 1275892086 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the most powerful a language that only had one way to accomplish any task could be? < 1275892122 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what your definition of "one way to accomplish any task" is < 1275892306 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Brainfuck? < 1275892369 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Rule 110? < 1275892623 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Actually, modeless means the mode is fixed at +nt < 1275892687 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if a language with only one way to accomplish a task could be turing-complete < 1275892769 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, it wouldn't be < 1275892858 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably cannot possibly be turing-complete! < 1275892873 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you define "only one way to accomplish a task" as being something like "exactly one input per output", then it cannot possibly be turing-complete < 1275892877 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you change the question somewhat, then perhaps there might be some way < 1275892998 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the reason the servers in the same network do not all support the same channel types is because irc.farlight.eu is running a old version of ngIRCd (I checked) < 1275894188 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1275894520 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275894876 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1275895092 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275895259 0 :ski!~slj@c-0712e055.1149-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1275895362 0 :ski!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION carefully looks around, to see if there's any danger present < 1275895883 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-21.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1275896228 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :scshunt < 1275896242 0 :scshunt!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :coppro < 1275896268 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :schunt < 1275896273 0 :schunt!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :coppro < 1275896531 0 :MizardX!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1275897126 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1275897388 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275897599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1275897600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1275898389 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275899545 0 :jabb!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironing out inconsistencies is a pain < 1275900063 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1275901860 0 :name_!~c13c4482@gateway/web/freenode/x-ewjnwipylsabwhds JOIN :#esoteric < 1275901897 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1275902260 0 :sebbu2!sebbu@cl-170.mrs-01.fr.sixxs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275902354 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1275902354 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1275904492 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1275904678 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275904730 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1275905041 0 :MizardX-!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1275905277 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1275905280 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1275908544 0 :name_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1275909054 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275911090 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1275911299 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1275911391 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1275911427 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1275911788 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275912080 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I seem to be trying to middle-click by holding down one left mouse button and pressing a different left mouse button < 1275912085 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dangers of trackpads... < 1275912094 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what I /meant/ to try to do was control-click) < 1275912393 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol apple < 1275913387 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275913791 0 :cal153!~cal@94-195-194-71.zone9.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1275914006 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, leftclick/leftclick again < 1275914010 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't a lol apple, this is a PC < 1275914013 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has a rightclick too < 1275914021 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just, the trackpad doesn't have a middle button < 1275914023 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and isn't multi-touch < 1275914031 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have to control-click, or both-click, instead < 1275914051 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both-clicking's really hard, and for some reason I keep using both left mouse buttons (the one on the trackpad and the one below) rather than control-clicking < 1275914065 0 :hiato!~nine@41-132-216-181.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1275914461 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of feel like devising an abstract algebra. < 1275914895 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1275915068 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1275915081 0 :MizardX!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1275915106 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : You do realise you're incredibly irritating? < 1275915122 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do realise you're incredibly irritable? (then, so am i) < 1275915146 0 :MizardX-!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1275915350 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote we'd care about a turing-complete pencil < 1275915350 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1275915355 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1275915385 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric : we'd care about a turing-complete pencil | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1275915410 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1275915410 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1275915417 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1275915444 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1275915579 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I kind of feel like devising an abstract algebra. < 1275915599 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've all been invented already. probably. well, the simple ones. < 1275915619 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was reading about medial magmas/groupoids recently < 1275915673 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one operator (call it *), fundamental equation: (a*b)*(c*d) = (a*c)*(b*d) < 1275915763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, post on rgrn < 1275915765 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly, there are interesting consequences. if * is surjective, then it's essentially a kind of linear function, and all linear functions of two variables have this property. < 1275915769 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, ali < 1275915780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two newsgroups which probably have more of an overlap than they ought to < 1275915791 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a post on rgrn is not surprising, and a post on ali is < 1275915799 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was asking about how to implement the factory and singleton patterns in INTERCAL < 1275915804 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the former is a very deep theorem, i'd have had to read the whole book to understand it, so i didn't.) < 1275915827 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What kind of an overlap? < 1275915850 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: well, anything other than the null set, given that by rights a.l.i's readership /should/ be the null set < 1275915866 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: rec.games.something? < 1275915875 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rec.games.roguelike.nethack < 1275915880 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1275915903 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure the overlap /isn't/ the null set? < 1275915922 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ais523 is on both, obviously... < 1275915947 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I was thinking of only posts as overlaps < 1275915952 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1275915959 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the number of NetHack players who are aware of INTERCAL is actually large enough that I don't know the number offhand < 1275915965 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure how many of them also use Usenet < 1275915971 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I've posted to both < 1275915977 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the same thing? < 1275915987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I can't think of a way to crosspost that wouldn't be trolling < 1275915994 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless and until I manage to port NetHack to INTERCAL < 1275915999 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. That's the kind of overlap I was thinking of < 1275916000 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which likely won't happen for years < 1275916002 0 :jamesstanley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: or vice versa < 1275916014 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jamesstanley: I'm not entirely sure if the vice versa makes sense < 1275916015 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that first came to mind given newsgroup overlap < 1275916023 0 :jamesstanley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementing intercal in nethack? of course it does < 1275916023 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack is not Dwarf Fortress, after all < 1275916036 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think NetHack is TC, or even usable for programming < 1275916049 0 :jamesstanley!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be able to manipulate monster ai for turing completeness < 1275916051 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sokoban is PSPACE-complete < 1275916100 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: and TC if generalised to an infinite plane < 1275916113 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1275916191 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd XD < 1275916811 0 :name_!~c13c4482@gateway/web/freenode/x-rlicfakqkeozpbpe JOIN :#esoteric < 1275916829 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1275916999 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275917700 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make bitchin' mathematic programming language. < 1275917706 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+a < 1275917713 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all the usual bitchin' mathematical things. < 1275919095 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Later < 1275919271 0 :mr45!~hi@cpc2-hudd9-0-0-cust396.hudd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1275921591 0 :cal153!~cal@hq.last.fm JOIN :#esoteric < 1275922437 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1275922458 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: make a programming language where you literally do write the question instead of the answer. < 1275922474 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like so: < 1275922521 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IsPrime x = NotExists (\y -> 0 < y && y < x && x `mod` y == 0) < 1275922538 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, `Mod`, since we're using my silly convention. < 1275922666 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1275922813 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1275922828 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: school time < 1275922864 0 :Leonidas!~Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1275923211 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit /quit < 1275923758 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl: Been done, the result was Prolog < 1275923838 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Prolog is very powerful. < 1275923865 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is a tentative conclusion, not an opinion.) < 1275924026 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still designing a tree language. getting closer to finish. < 1275924099 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically a graph language... for control flow. < 1275924106 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish is the best language for trees to speak. < 1275924146 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1275924251 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-7-96.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275924919 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like #esoteric is still the most Finnish channel I have. :P < 1275924924 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...just came up with a single syntax < 1275924930 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, terve, mitä kuuluu? < 1275924941 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :node-data { inner-node-data ; inner-node-data} < 1275924966 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ creates a new child node at the current node... ; creates a new sibling < 1275925001 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{1;2;3;4;5;6} to represent a simple list 4{ 2; 4 {1;2;3}} for trees < 1275925018 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ {1;2;!} < 1275925025 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a program expression < 1275925041 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I might change ; to , ...no need to type shift all the time < 1275925070 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ( can just be ) actually just use spaces instead of , HOLY SHIT ITS TREE-LISP < 1275925109 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you're using a keyboard layout in which you need to press shift to type ;. < 1275925128 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, wait, no I'm not. < 1275925146 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno why I thought that. < 1275925187 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually spaces don't sit well with me for this syntax... since each branch node can have its own atom as well as a child list. < 1275925203 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so whitespace independence would be nice to allow any kind of structuring. < 1275925303 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+(1,-(2,3,!),!) < 1275925310 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might have some sugar for that ! < 1275925385 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a different bracket style for implicit !age < 1275925565 0 :name_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1275925872 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275925897 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-7-96.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275926798 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1275927631 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Finnish is the best language for trees to speak. <-- yeah but it is unfit for a human mouth ;P < 1275927632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs < 1275927649 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, to be fair, Icelandic seems worse < 1275927705 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I've heard that Icelandic is really difficult. < 1275927749 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To pronounce? How's that? < 1275928119 0 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-241-30.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1275928280 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, Icelandic is a West Scandinavian language. < 1275928364 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Icelandic does have quite the array of consonants. < 1275928375 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Czech far worse < 1275928377 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The vowels aren't too bad. < 1275928413 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, Czech's consonants look pretty manageable. < 1275928448 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Icelandic's consonants look only somewhat manageable. < 1275928458 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's that < 1275928517 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it has a bunch of consonants that I can't even name. < 1275928521 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Icelandic, I mean. < 1275928549 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, actually, I guess that little ring thingy just means "voiceless". < 1275928586 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, now Icelandic looks very manageable. < 1275928599 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1275928729 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275928855 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gucharmap's character info screen for U+037C CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER OMEGA WITH TITLO: "Notes: despite its name, this character does not have a titlo, nor is it composed of an omega plus a diacritic". < 1275928985 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1275928991 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent < 1275929046 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because U+037C is GREEK SMALL DOTTED LUNATE SIGMA SYMBOL. < 1275929065 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was just a typo. < 1275929073 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+047C is what I meant to write. < 1275929086 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm. < 1275929105 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that sure looks like an omega with a titlo. < 1275929160 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But indeed. < 1275929201 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in my font Ѽ is rendered as a rather silly wide omegay thing, and then two other diacritics (combining cyrillic palatalization, combining cyrillirc psili pneumata; I have no idea what they're for) instead of the Òƒ titlo one. < 1275929224 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cyrillirc". < 1275929251 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, it seems that in all my fonts as well as fileformat.info, it is displayed as an omega with a titlo. < 1275929277 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With that sort of name... < 1275929289 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1275929309 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay, I think this is the official definition of U+047C: < 1275929318 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0400.pdf has it close to what I see in gucharmap. < 1275929334 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It also has the same note.) < 1275929352 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := Cyrillic "beautiful omega". * despite its name, this character does not have a titlo, nor is it composed of an omega plus a diacritic. -> A64C Ꙍ cyrillic capital letter broad omega < 1275929675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realised that the OS I use on my RCX is in many respects way more advanced than DOS. For example it does multiple threads (cooperative multitasking due to preemptive (as it used to be) having a rather annoyingly large overhead) < 1275929731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has POSIX-like semaphores, stripped to the core features, but stilll < 1275929737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still* < 1275929804 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1275929843 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads the Unicode Standard. < 1275930029 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, it's a 686-page PDF document. < 1275930138 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, look at what U+FE18 is called. < 1275930149 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brakcet < 1275930154 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1275930158 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT WHITE LENTICULAR BRAKCET", to be precise. < 1275930166 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh < 1275930422 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, my private use area according to gucharmap is full of stuff (since it picks characters from any font that has 'em); there's the Linux penguin, some sort of random bat, a sword-like diagonal arrow, someone's face, a whole pile of outlined symbols, sub- and superscripts for all cyrillic characters, etc. < 1275930486 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, why is your face in fizzie's Unicode? < 1275930505 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's Gregor's face, he looks pretty girly. < 1275930525 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He does look pretty girly! < 1275930589 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/~fis/face.png -- this girly? < 1275930606 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, no, not quite that girly. < 1275930629 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION begins poking around zem.fi. < 1275930637 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not much there. < 1275930640 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a three-letter Finnish domain name. < 1275930660 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least officially) you need to be Finnish, then. < 1275930673 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a corporation with an office here, or some-such. < 1275930683 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will move to Finland, then. < 1275930768 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flexes his fingers. < 1275930944 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, domain names like "www.okie.fi" look really lopsided. < 1275930971 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION joins the Suomen nowwwpuolue. < 1275930972 0 :jabb_work!~4a73b064@gateway/web/freenode/x-zvjhpfsbmmmnnecw JOIN :#esoteric < 1275930998 0 :relet!~thomas@c905DBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1275931367 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275931456 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT WHITE LENTICULAR BRAKCET", to be precise. <-- what? < 1275931466 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the name of a Unicode character. < 1275931482 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl, "white"? I didn't know unicode had colour info... < 1275931493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't make sense for it to have that < 1275931506 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I imagine it's "white" in the sense of "the same color as the background". < 1275931526 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl, so, it is a strange name for a space? ;P < 1275931539 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's outlined. :) < 1275931549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm should be called "outlined" or such then < 1275931549 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In black! < 1275931565 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs. < 1275931724 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see, I know enough Finnish to sort of ask a simple question. < 1275931817 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, olet Suomen? < 1275931822 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that was close enough. :P < 1275931830 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You're Finland's?" < 1275931845 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it wasn't close enough. :P < 1275931877 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My intended meaning was "Are you Finnish?" < 1275931897 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I would be quite surprised if e turned out not to be.) < 1275931906 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, lacks the interrogative suffix on the "olet" to be completely correct for even that ;-P < 1275931922 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interrogative suffix? Huh. < 1275931926 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, in colloquial speech it's often dropped < 1275931949 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it should be "oletko" to make it a question; with just "olet" it's a statement: "you are Finnish". < 1275931962 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_grammar#Interrogatives_.28questions.29 < 1275931964 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A statement with a question mark at the end. :) < 1275931978 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apparently "Suomen" wasn't quite the right word either. < 1275931989 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "Suomalainen" < 1275932010 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it "suomalainen"? I don't think we capitalize it when it's a nationality or a language. < 1275932010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't soumi = finland? < 1275932025 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, we don't. < 1275932035 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Modulo letter order, yes. < 1275932040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah < 1275932068 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suomalainen. I should probably make note of that. < 1275932125 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x-lainen (/x-läinen) ~= from x < 1275932136 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The non-capitalization exception is something I don't much like. < 1275932146 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ditto < 1275932180 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like not capitalizing stuff! < 1275932196 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, eh. < 1275932219 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that we capitalize countries (like "Suomi") but not languages (which would be "suomi"). < 1275932227 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1275932248 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the verb "suomia": to whip, lash, (figuratively) scold. < 1275932273 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of which "suomi" would be the third-person singular past tense case. < 1275932281 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cognate to "suomustaa"? < 1275932300 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the Finnish word for "whiplash"? :P < 1275932318 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the literal lash of a whip, piiskanisku < 1275932338 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Perhaps. fi.wiktionary says "(murteellinen?) suomustaa; etymologinen perusta edelliselle??" but those multiple question marks make me a bit unsure. < 1275932346 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1275932364 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rakastan sinua. < 1275932380 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, I can't really tell which word is which in that sentence. < 1275932415 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay, Wiktionary says that "rakastaa" takes the partitive. < 1275932430 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1275932443 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why it does that. :P < 1275932456 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be more precise, "suomi" is the third-person singular preterite active indicative of "suomia" < 1275932562 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks. < 1275932570 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up the Finnish word for "thinks". < 1275932582 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl: "Rakastaa" is atelic < 1275932599 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As is "to love", I suppose < 1275932610 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't have anything to do with philately, does it. < 1275932620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, wtf at that recent message on a.l.i < 1275932624 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to my knowledge < 1275932658 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I loved you in a day." "I loved you for a day." < 1275932667 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see my reply? < 1275932668 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so. < 1275932670 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you follow the link? < 1275932675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes and yes < 1275932690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, even more wtf from those < 1275932703 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, it sort of looks like "ajatella" is conjugated as if it were "ajattelea". < 1275932721 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ajattelee. < 1275932752 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well the link that is, your response wasn't very wtf < 1275932780 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Troll much? :-D < 1275932826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, but I think you missed a comma in one place < 1275932842 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275932848 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Where < 1275932856 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: alt.lang.intercal < 1275932862 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The comma, I meant < 1275932864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm having problems parsing "[...]; those who have tried to imply the way I think from the way I write code, possibly a null set, would know that I consider multithreading the answer to more or less every problem INTERCAL offers" < 1275932875 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I can parse that just fine < 1275932879 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As can I < 1275932881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1275932915 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that "possibly a null set" is a bit confusingly placed. But I'm not sure if there's a better place. < 1275932936 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I was thinking INTERCAL, so long as it's theoretically grammatically correct it's fine < 1275932936 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes perhaps < 1275932952 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I presume he means that "those who have tried to imply" is a null set < 1275932957 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah, that was difficult to parse. < 1275932958 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1275932965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imply what? < 1275932968 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that by "imply" he means "infer". < 1275932973 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1275932984 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl, ah, okay that makes a quite a lot more sense < 1275932987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, it's more fun for me to attribute other people to attribute motives to me < 1275933005 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it strange that people get "imply" and "infer" mixed up. Don't they mean totally different things? < 1275933017 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not totally, but fairly < 1275933025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl, both are verbs. < 1275933027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1275933031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah quite different afaik < 1275933037 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implying is saying something indirectly, or having something as a conclusion. Inferring is coming to a conclusion. < 1275933052 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess they're both I5 verbs. :) < 1275933088 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl, I5? < 1275933098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh letter count < 1275933099 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :start with I and have 5 letters < 1275933100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1275933104 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What he said. < 1275933137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I kind of can't see how you could mix up their meaning < 1275933169 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost an opposite meaning < 1275933171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, "[...] and multiple COME FROM having too much [state]"? < 1275933195 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's an INTERCAL thing < 1275933198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how do you mean too much state? < 1275933219 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no shared state < 1275933221 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or very little < 1275933228 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all shared state is global, you can't share pairwise < 1275933244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm, creating statements on demand, does that imply JITing? < 1275933250 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, why does "ajatella" have thirteen synonyms? < 1275933256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err s/on demand/at runtime/ < 1275933260 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what it seems like < 1275933273 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, think of it more like thunks < 1275933279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl, what does it mean? < 1275933289 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To think". < 1275933304 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl: "think" has fourteen < 1275933309 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess it's transitive. < 1275933311 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Wiktionary, anyways < 1275933328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, um? was ages ago I heard about "thunks" last, and it was something related to windows 3.1 iirc < 1275933329 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I count thirteen, not counting "ajatella" itself. < 1275933336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have no clue what you meant there < 1275933351 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: closures with no params < 1275933353 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And at least most of the Finnish ones are just different forms of each other < 1275933362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1275933377 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ajatella/aatella, fundeerata/funtsata/funtsia, pohtia/pohdiskella, pähkiä/pähkäillä, tuumailla/tuumata/tuumia/tuumiskella < 1275933411 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. So that makes more like five. < 1275933415 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That list is missing "puntaroida" < 1275933450 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they don't include "harkita" either so maybe that's intentional < 1275933463 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, add them. :) < 1275933491 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it's probably intentional < 1275933527 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although "pähkäillä" probably shouldn't be there either if that's the case... but whatever < 1275933533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, btw you should write a C->INTERCAL compiler < 1275933548 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think the reason is? < 1275933560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, after you finish feather and gcc-bf that is ;P < 1275933621 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl: Well, it's sort of "think" versus "consider" < 1275933664 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("consider" as in "mull over", can't think of a better synonym) < 1275933775 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drat, Wiktionary doesn't list the declension of "aihe". < 1275933877 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This type, I think: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Finnish_declension_types/hame < 1275933938 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the partitive singular is "aihetta"? < 1275933945 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1275934097 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ajattelee aihetta. < 1275934189 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "ajatella" is more "think of" than "think about", actually < 1275934193 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure < 1275934194 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1275934210 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, I'm pretty sure it's /more/ that but it might still be both < 1275934254 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ajattelee seuraavaa aihetta? < 1275934393 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, I dunno < 1275934399 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm all confused now < 1275934428 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's just that I don't like using "ajatella" with "aihe" for some reason < 1275934505 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elämä on hyvä. < 1275934604 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc2-belf9-2-0-cust994.2-1.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1275934636 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if that's wrong or if it just sounds wrong :-P < 1275934666 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Elämä on hyvä" sounds wrong, too? < 1275934680 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds wrong but it could just be because it's the obvious anglicism < 1275934690 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elämä ön hyvä. :P < 1275934696 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not something anybody would ever say < 1275934701 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1275934713 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for beginning speakers of Finnish, I guess! < 1275934725 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not in my definition of "anybody" < 1275934735 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been asked to build a robot with Mindstorms for "work" "experience". < 1275934762 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pointti. < 1275934834 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1275934887 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275935335 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ultimately it has to be able to take commands to navigate through a maze from Bluetooth. < 1275935429 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, from what little I've learned so far of Finnish, I'm struck by how similar it is to English. < 1275935544 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has more or less the same parts of speech, and the words go in more or less the same order. < 1275935556 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word order is more or less arbitrary < 1275935586 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too. :) < 1275935666 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really the case in English :-P < 1275935675 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1275935747 0 :Vegabondmx!~Vegabonds@unaffiliated/vegabondsx JOIN :#esoteric < 1275935760 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1275935771 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I can also use Spanish as a point of comparison. < 1275935892 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as language evolution goes, English and Spanish are of course more closely related than either is to Finnish. < 1275935910 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But as far as grammar goes, all three seem pretty similar. < 1275938656 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1275939824 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1275939923 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275940260 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1275940545 0 :MizardX!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1275940611 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we hate Java here? < 1275940660 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Override protected void map(LongWritable l, Text t, Mapper.Context context) throws IOException, InterruptedException { < 1275940682 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275940696 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, explain. < 1275940701 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1275940707 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java < 1275940711 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verbosity < 1275940714 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAET < 1275940715 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it do? < 1275940725 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the equivalent of 'map =' in Haskell < 1275940729 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can be verbose in everything. < 1275940736 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that seems extreme. < 1275940759 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a method definition minus a body and closing } < 1275940785 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: what's 'map =' do? < 1275940799 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a function definition minus a body < 1275940821 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1275940829 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see < 1275940839 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :map = ... < 1275940873 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was Hadoop, not Java; but Java things in general do seem to end up looking like that, it's true. < 1275940917 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hadoop is Java < 1275940928 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, but Java is not Hadoop. < 1275940953 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't just pick the interface of a single... I guess they call it a "framework", and say all Java's like that. < 1275940966 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, I didn't < 1275940985 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Java hate was being coaxed so I somewhat-delivered < 1275941181 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is reasonably representative of Java, I guess. The officially-part-of-the-language library isn't much less verbosity-demanding. < 1275941215 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AffineTransformOp op = new AffineTransformOp(AffineTransform.getScaleInstance(scaleX, scaleY), AffineTransformOp.TYPE_BILINEAR); < 1275941326 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ColorModel cm = base.getColorModel(); BufferedImage composite = new BufferedImage(cm, base.copyData(cm.createCompatibleWritableRaster(w, h)), cm.isAlphaPremultiplied(), null); composite.createGraphics().drawImage(tile, op, 0, 0); < 1275941336 0 :P4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1275941337 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do like long names there. < 1275941635 0 :mr45!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1275941762 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~nice@p5B14C6FB.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275942154 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275942206 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1275942949 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1275942989 0 :jabb!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1275942990 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@63.164.255.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1275943201 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hm, Czech's consonants look pretty manageable. <-- until you realize some of them (r,l) are also used as vowels. also, r-hacek. < 1275943284 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the latter being a sound existing _only_ in czech) < 1275943358 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Used as vowels"? < 1275943383 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was listed (may still be) in guinness book of records as the world's rarest sound. < 1275943386 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1275943420 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i've learned the swedish sje-sound is also only in one language, there might be others for what i know) < 1275943454 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the swedish sje-sound is much simpler to pronounce though, imo) < 1275943473 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: cz:vlk = en:wolf, for example < 1275943506 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, there are vowelless words, but how does that make those "used as vowels"? < 1275943526 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, used as syllable nuclei. < 1275943533 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some famous tongue-twisters which my non-unicode clean irc setup cannot manage < 1275943545 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1275943559 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese has an n-syllable which I find annoying for no good reason < 1275943625 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, I don't find that makes them less manageable < 1275943660 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, there's _still_ r-hacek >:) < 1275943729 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, raised alveolar non-sonorant trill < 1275943770 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275943787 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what it means by having the tongue raised when it's alveolar anyway < 1275943820 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it may be that it's not made with just the tip of the tongue, iirc < 1275943843 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wellnowwhat.net/blog/?p=394 < 1275943854 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait does that make any sense < 1275943871 0 :kdvh!~kdvh@unaffiliated/kdvh JOIN :#esoteric < 1275943948 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: darn, i was hoping you were linking to a detailed explanation of how to pronounce r-hacek, there. you _are_ the resident linguist after all. < 1275943953 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Alveolar trill: raised versus non-raised. Discuss! < 1275943982 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arr-hatchek < 1275944008 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my language has no trills natively therefore i have nothing to discuss < 1275944025 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alveolar x, for any x: raised versus non-raised. Discuss! < 1275944299 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or don't. Meh. < 1275944770 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Don't let the name fool you, this is a linguistics channel | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1275944844 0 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275944865 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1275944865 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1275945253 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1275945253 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1275945260 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who broke HackEgo? < 1275945265 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise < 1275945268 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1275945275 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, said the sparrow < 1275945411 0 :Oranjer!~HP_Admini@adsl-243-205-116.cae.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275945473 0 :kdvh!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1275945860 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it broken? < 1275945863 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1275945863 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1275945907 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit single-minded at the moment < 1275945935 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1275945935 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to clone the environment! < 1275946027 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275946096 0 :cpressey!~CPressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275946160 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cpressey < 1275946213 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What ho, oerjan! < 1275946279 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I come to announce Burro 2.0: http://catseye.tc/projects/burro/doc/burro.html < 1275946287 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping scarf would be here, but oh well. < 1275946305 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf = ais523 these days < 1275946315 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still not here, anyway < 1275946423 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missed him by threeish hours < 1275946484 0 :ineiros_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1275946500 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you see him before I do, let him know that his offhand observation that Burro was broken, resulted in months of work for me fixing it :) < 1275946509 0 :ineiros!~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1275946515 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not actual full months -- spare-time-months, of course < 1275947010 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, you're the guy who runs Cat's Eye? < 1275947020 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1275947060 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Depends -- are you a debt collector? :D < 1275947072 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1275947072 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1275947098 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan to use the Spanish method I heard about from a dubious source. < 1275947125 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will wear a silly hat and frock coat, then follow you into restaurants and cafés and point. < 1275947140 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't expect that. < 1275947281 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1275947576 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, NO-ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH DEBT COLLECTORS! < 1275947744 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION expected that < 1275947798 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1275947838 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q: What's a Haskell programmer's favorite philosophy book < 1275947847 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A: Leibniz's Monadology < 1275947847 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1275948601 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, you there? < 1275948657 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idle : 0 days 4 hours 11 mins 22 secs < 1275948720 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also away : eating < 1275948887 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He should not need to eat for 4 hours. < 1275948993 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not good to eat too fast, you know :D < 1275949243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, hi < 1275949260 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot to /unaway < 1275949267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it took 10 minutes to eat ;P < 1275949305 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S TOO FAST < 1275949310 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose you know anything about Mindstorms NXT? < 1275949334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 32-bit, CPU is ARM (ARM7 iirc, not sure) < 1275949335 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear you should use at least 15 minutes or so < 1275949342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, and the motor has a very awkward shape < 1275949349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that is about all < 1275949361 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1275949377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what? btw did you see the first panorama? < 1275949381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :posted link yesterday < 1275949384 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1275949385 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also photos of the bot < 1275949390 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otherwise you eat so fast that your fullness feeling doesn't get triggered until you've already overeaten) < 1275949395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well, you shouldn't be away for several days at a row < 1275949404 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't here yesterday. < 1275949406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, go dig logs, links will be at omploader < 1275949407 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway. < 1275949410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, or day before that < 1275949422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I posted images of the construction itself < 1275949455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, also not being on irc for a long time is a major offence or something ;P < 1275949464 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this brakes my computer I will definitely need the soul of your first-born child. < 1275949475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, open it in gimp < 1275949478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, 53 MP < 1275949480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah use gimp < 1275949488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have been warned < 1275949492 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it actually _breaks_ it he'll take your whole family < 1275949504 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFX handles it fine, actually. < 1275949506 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange. < 1275949515 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O god, a spelling error" < 1275949516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yep, the issue was on your side last time too < 1275949524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what spelling error? < 1275949527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1275949528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1275949529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brakes < 1275949530 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1275949567 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do I do with all of these CTCPs? < 1275949601 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot if you used windows or not :P < 1275949614 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not. < 1275949833 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1275950054 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1275950075 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, must sleep. < 1275950079 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1275950226 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1275950613 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275951120 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275951700 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1275953256 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1275953279 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1275953668 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1275954927 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1275955158 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death