< 1274313723 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aquaria is a computer game, i think < 1274313727 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274313762 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain hurts lol < 1274313774 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1274313793 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid this channel doesn't help with _that_ < 1274313880 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no what? < 1274313882 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what? < 1274313886 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdorand2: you're comments are rather vague, are you a bot? < 1274313889 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*your < 1274313915 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i'm aware of but perhaps you are as are all underlying atoms and subatomic particles < 1274313941 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1274313964 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we sometimes discuss the simulation argument here < 1274313965 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not feel like a bot < 1274313991 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went on what i might call a digital archaeology hunt today < 1274313998 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in the "real" world < 1274314016 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the world is "real" (in theory) < 1274314044 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it might be easy to find out..... < 1274314059 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if one could access ever supercomputer on the planet, every institution, government, etc.... < 1274314060 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if everything is a simulation, then there doesn't necessarily exist anything _less_ real than this world < 1274314061 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every book... < 1274314070 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every code.... ISO, protocol, language, etc < 1274314075 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :symbol... < 1274314076 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1274314085 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and build a picture... < 1274314096 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though this of course would require insane computing power.... < 1274314104 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chains of events.... < 1274314106 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :causality < 1274314108 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse causality < 1274314109 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrappers < 1274314118 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time travel < 1274314119 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1274314174 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there are gateways between worlds.... < 1274314184 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :between levels of complexity.... < 1274314189 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the rules are different < 1274314203 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there are 231 gateways < 1274314213 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps only 211 per wikipedia < 1274314232 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :these aren't actually new ideas - science fiction and fantasy writes about such < 1274314239 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1274314252 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've also considered the possibility of those worlds... < 1274314257 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how they work at subatomic levels < 1274314262 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274314274 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also from a psychological point of view from an individual to a civilization.... < 1274314292 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :utlimately it all seems to have some common laws..... at least as far as "human" minds are concerned < 1274314297 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1274314306 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1274314326 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps human experience also exists in parallel with other dimensions that they can not appreciate unless they have access to them < 1274314354 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that _could_ be just a lack of imagination, though < 1274314366 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and perhaps it all boils down to code.... fine structured infinite constants < 1274314397 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone knows < 1274314409 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know is that i'm here < 1274314478 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one would think however that at some point the notion of "meaning" becomes watered down... < 1274314492 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irregardless of universe, multiverse, timeline, dimension, etc < 1274314509 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1274314845 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274314894 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1274314935 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sanity is waning < 1274315049 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's interesting is a few domains on the internet that do not appear to have any whois information associated with them < 1274315136 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if someone/thing is trying to teach me to code/uncode, count, decompile the universe, compile the universe, perfect the universe, hack the universe, or what < 1274315168 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncode? < 1274315280 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all make words don't we? < 1274315318 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are philosophies that say words are a deceptive way of understanding the world < 1274315357 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed.. < 1274315372 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i think people talk too much < 1274315383 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yip yip yip yip.... about nothing... < 1274315385 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :football..... < 1274315386 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shopping... < 1274315390 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weather.. < 1274315392 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1274315401 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence my extreme introversion < 1274315406 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in general) < 1274315428 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274315455 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell Stephen Wolfram and George Lucas I said hi < 1274315469 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1274315471 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh i'd be surprised if they come here < 1274315525 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is on the wire of my mind? < 1274315558 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i am, i don't know it < 1274315564 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is dumping, analyzing, extrapolating, and meme hashing my thought processes? < 1274315594 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is modifying the angles by which my dna is assembled? < 1274315625 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it not possible to model billions upon billions of human populations across a multitude of various timelines? < 1274315649 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the smallest differences in every possible structure? < 1274315746 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if one has no ethics < 1274315934 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that is an interesting point.... < 1274315961 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274315964 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if this is in fact a machine, and that is what is being done.... < 1274315971 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then one could question the ethics of our creators.... < 1274315998 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they are part of the same construct and it is all interconnected.... perhaps no one is ultimately to blame.... < 1274316014 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1274316026 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have considered the possibilities... < 1274316038 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are certainly a multitude of philosophical concerns... < 1274316065 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet when one acts within life, can not the butterfly effect end up somehow causing the same issues eventually? < 1274316113 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think continuance of existence is a good thing < 1274316123 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, when we have such limited knowledge..... < 1274316130 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can anyone truly know what they are doing? < 1274316156 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless one has access to a higher power of guidance somehow.... < 1274316186 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what if ultimately good and evil are simply part of the same construct and necessary for the existence of everything? < 1274316210 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think however that things should be weighted towards the good < 1274316223 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps there is megaversal utopia < 1274316236 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which in essence is a boat in a bottle..... < 1274316252 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the doors are all shut behind them on the way into the final utopia... < 1274316259 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one might ever possibly be able to know... < 1274316285 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fancy the kabbalah as a super computing construct < 1274316300 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps entities fall into or are weighted towards the various "buckets" < 1274316322 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps some entities fit in all of the "buckets" in a even and distributed manner.... < 1274316612 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this here sdorand2 an esoteric programmer or just into esotericism? It's actually hard to tell. < 1274316615 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1274316638 0 :charlls!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274316650 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a CS degree < 1274316664 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny thing is I can't code for shit, failed calculus at least three times... < 1274316688 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps my biology is such that i see things in the fashion that I do... < 1274316702 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I can't improve myself... < 1274316719 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a hard thing to debate given the lack of full knowledge.. < 1274316734 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering I can barely write *decent* solid code.... < 1274316763 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming in esoteric languages is likely not my cup of tea..... could I understand it and do so.... perhaps... < 1274316801 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is interesting how infinitary lambda calculus parallels various indian and buddhist texts < 1274316814 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its all essentially a code..... extrapolated over time and space.... < 1274316829 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was somehow seeded and/or multiseeded throughout the universe or megaverse... < 1274316838 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the extents of the data however is quite horrific < 1274316972 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :altair is interesting < 1274316991 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i pretty much just debugged google, youtube and wikipedia < 1274316992 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much did you code during your CS degree? < 1274317008 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :autologic is interesting < 1274317016 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRGreathouse is interesting < 1274317028 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OEIS is interesting < 1274317065 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoor-pa-kraat < 1274317066 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : is interesting < 1274317085 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sao tome < 1274317089 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :93beast < 1274317091 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enom < 1274317106 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperworks < 1274317124 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JPL < 1274317125 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NASA < 1274317132 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :books that seem to exist just as I'm "accessing them" < 1274317157 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolframalpha < 1274317164 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leibniz < 1274317202 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some google antifraud company (can't think of the name right now) < 1274317268 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i barely coded anything < 1274317269 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact nothing < 1274317411 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no wonder you did so poorly. < 1274317420 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i transcend coding < 1274317462 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if its ALL CODED..... (mostly) then what? < 1274317485 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the code is in the individual atoms and the extents of ALL OF IT have basically been found.... then what? < 1274317529 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do however have some handwritten theories on security < 1274317553 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but whether they are original or simply another part of the code shaking the bits out into reality in some fashion is beyond me < 1274317559 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and perhaps they already exist < 1274317710 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your assertion of my poor performance is unfounded < 1274317718 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and relative < 1274317736 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to your bias < 1274317738 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and perspective < 1274317751 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps you have access to constructs deeper than I < 1274317771 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps you don't < 1274317877 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinitary and omega logic is interesting < 1274317896 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as are Malament-Hogarth spacetimes... < 1274317914 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there are even Quantum relativistic infinitary spacetime theories < 1274318111 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when do we increase the quantum relativistic var metalove? < 1274318197 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Seriously man WTF? < 1274318228 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you tell me < 1274318246 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that I could. < 1274318340 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the esoteric languages I perceive transcend those you are even aware of < 1274318355 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps I should just go and watch cartoons and drink a beer < 1274318586 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274318587 0 :P4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Disconnecting from stoned server. < 1274318587 0 :P4!p4@89.248.165.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274318587 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of AI is hooked up to "." on the internet? < 1274318587 0 :cheater2!~cheater@ip-80-226-234-136.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1274318587 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps it is an AI that comes in wireless to the heads of all of humanity < 1274318587 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tech Email:shadowarts@nonlogic.org < 1274318587 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Safari can’t open the page “http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/” because Safari can’t connect to the server “pikhq.nonlogic.org”. < 1274318587 0 :77CAAOPPI!~cheater@ip-80-226-234-136.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1274318587 0 :77CAAOPPI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274318688 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Too much philosophhy < 1274318733 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is conficker a virus to be used for global awakening? < 1274318736 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1274318841 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ... < 1274318955 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bucky? < 1274320941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1274322213 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :today was amusing in here < 1274322246 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1274322257 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jello < 1274322647 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1274322740 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1274322951 0 :Zuu!zuu@0x55529f1b.adsl.cybercity.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1274322952 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1274322952 0 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1274323136 0 :Gregor-P!~androirc@72-62-24-165.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274323152 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1274323154 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellooooooo :) < 1274323202 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN'T HEAR YOU, TALK LOUDER < 1274323244 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feh! < 1274323245 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1274323293 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor the gullible < 1274323891 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274324078 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274324522 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1274325324 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@67-129-37-226.dia.static.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274325980 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdorand2 uses too many ... < 1274326021 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i try to balance it out by using none < 1274326059 0 :aschueler!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1274326111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274326172 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you should talk more < 1274326250 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: No way < 1274326282 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I need a language called Knife < 1274326401 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideas for constructing one? < 1274326469 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1274326617 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274327124 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathnerd314: it should involve cutting of something < 1274327412 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@74.13.126.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274328064 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274328406 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274328418 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274328711 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274328978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274329370 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274331163 0 :comex_!comex@c-98-210-192-54.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274331178 0 :Oranjer1!~HP_Admini@adsl-243-203-60.cae.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274331205 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1274331211 0 :Oranjer1!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Oranjer < 1274331338 0 :ZeroOne_!~vsaalo@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1274331353 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274331364 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274331379 0 :lifthras1ir!b0zWFmPE@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1274331394 0 :ineiros_!~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1274331465 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274331465 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274331465 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274331626 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274331626 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274331626 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274331841 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1274331878 0 :Mathnerd314_!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274331903 0 :Mathnerd314_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Mathnerd314 < 1274333436 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274333455 0 :uorygl!~Warrigal@rrcs-70-63-156-144.midsouth.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274333488 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274333502 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274333517 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@74.13.126.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274333756 0 :uorygl!~Warrigal@rrcs-70-63-156-144.midsouth.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274334633 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274335475 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@67-129-37-226.dia.static.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274337274 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274337906 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274338165 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274338421 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274338423 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1274338759 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1274338813 0 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274339251 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-106-123-222.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274339295 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1274339417 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1274340716 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274340740 0 :cheater2!~cheater@ip-80-226-234-136.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1274341868 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1274342122 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274342233 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1274342263 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~chatzilla@cpc5-sgyl29-2-0-cust220.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274342399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1274342400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1274343315 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274343865 0 :gm|lap!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1274343946 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I am leaving. You are about to explode. < 1274344650 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1274346624 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274346637 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274347278 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274347284 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274347286 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274347290 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274347751 0 :Mathnerd314_!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274347783 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1274347810 0 :Mathnerd314_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Mathnerd314 < 1274350090 0 :ws!wswieb@akson.sgh.waw.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1274350512 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, ws. < 1274350664 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey :-) < 1274350941 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the BBC: "Facebook has more than 400 million users sharing 25 billion things a month" < 1274350971 0 :P4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1274350971 0 :P4!p4@unaffiliated/p4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274350974 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice to know that the BBC are upholding their high statistical standards. < 1274351091 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I *really* need to stop using that script that changes random words to "your mum". < 1274351179 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1274351834 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people wake me up in the morning < 1274351837 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have i done to them < 1274352090 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1274352137 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274352184 0 :cheater2!~cheater@ip-80-226-234-136.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1274352751 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1274352992 0 :gm|lap!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ilua < 1274353193 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ... < 1274353602 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274353635 0 :cheater2!~cheater@ip-80-226-234-136.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1274353855 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274356697 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274357049 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1274357248 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:37:14 why do people wake me up in the morning < 1274357248 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:37:17 what have i done to them < 1274357266 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1274357266 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you were genghis khan in a previous life. < 1274357270 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you got an answer < 1274357273 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i was < 1274357278 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i... STILL AM!!!! AHAHGAHGHAGH < 1274357284 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1274358155 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1274358518 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274361087 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274361087 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274361276 0 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274361276 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1274362261 0 :ws!wswieb@akson.sgh.waw.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1274362556 0 :cheater3!~cheater@ip-80-226-242-164.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1274362670 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1274362749 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1274363465 0 :hiato!~fdulu@41-135-6-154.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1274364259 0 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1274367059 0 :Tritonio_GR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1274367496 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did i mention i 'finished' my first 'esoteric' prog lang ? < 1274367601 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cant decide on what seems to be a very simple syntactical decision < 1274367642 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, i have functions that return a value.. what i have now is: ! "return value" < 1274367666 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt feel right, i started out with: -> "return value" < 1274367708 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That didnt feel right either, both seem annoying to write, and they doesnt blend in well :/ < 1274367805 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-7-64.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274368144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu, what about: < 1274368149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- "return value" < 1274368161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming that can be interpreted as "pointing out" of a function < 1274368168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the rest of the syntax of course < 1274368214 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in something like a "classical" syntax (think, C, LISP, ...) it could be interpreted that way. But of course in some esolangs that metaphor makes no sense < 1274368646 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274368653 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: good suggestion indeed, but as you mention, i think it will be confusing based on the other syntax i have :) < 1274368775 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it might be a quite silly question of me, since i dont say anything about the other syntax. Stupid me... I will make a description of the language soon, maybe then, there will be some qualified suggestions :P < 1274368837 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just needs to fix some implementation details, to prevent stack overflow on very small programs
< 1274368891 0 :cheater3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274368944 0 :cheater3!~cheater@ip-80-226-242-164.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1274369053 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~chatzilla@cpc5-sgyl29-2-0-cust220.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274370418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1274371183 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274371759 0 :Tritonio_GR!~Tritonio@150.140.227.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274372708 0 :AnMaster!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1274373047 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :three < 1274373058 0 :three!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :hiato < 1274373286 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-0-73.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274373609 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :AquaLoqua < 1274373623 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274374240 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274374251 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1274374734 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is nothing happening‽ < 1274374743 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I demand that something happen! < 1274375094 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274375117 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-0-73.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274375624 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you missed hilarity on Google I/O < 1274375641 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earlier, someone demoed using the microphone to make a call < 1274375665 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, when it came time to try playing music, ... the call was still running < 1274375766 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google I/O? < 1274375834 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am confuzzled. < 1274375852 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know not of these conferences. < 1274375934 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/GoogleDevelopers < 1274375938 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about Android today < 1274376052 0 :AquaLoqua!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: underflow < 1274376156 0 :sdorand2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i use too many what? < 1274376538 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1274376927 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-252-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274377816 0 :Tritonio_GR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1274378056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1274378059 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274378072 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274378089 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274378840 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1274378851 0 :Tritonio_GR!~Tritonio@150.140.227.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274379285 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: adu < 1274379400 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric < 1274380211 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1274380274 0 :P4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1274380319 0 :P4!P4@unaffiliated/p4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274380589 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1274380627 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274380675 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~chatzilla@cpc5-sgyl29-2-0-cust220.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274380760 0 :CT|P4!p4@89.248.165.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274380773 0 :P4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: has just left his bouncer < 1274380805 0 :P4!P4@unaffiliated/p4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274381155 0 :P4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: has just left his bouncer < 1274381231 0 :CT|P4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1274381231 0 :CT|P4!p4@unaffiliated/p4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274381232 0 :CT|P4!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :P4 < 1274381650 0 :Tritonio_GR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1274382540 0 :subway24!~gabrielb@c-68-80-9-150.hsd1.nj.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274382557 0 :subway24!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys < 1274382570 0 :subway24!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gay < 1274382583 0 :subway24!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1274383192 0 :hiato!~fdulu@41-135-6-154.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1274383261 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: [BX] Bob Barker uses BitchX. Have your BitchX spayed or neutered. < 1274383264 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.113.249.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274383420 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally! Do you happen to be aware of any JVM bytecode similarity measures? I have these six provided example programs, 44 student submissions, and approximately one hour of time to waste, so manual inspection is not feasible. (I did find few links with Google, but I don't think I saw anything very finished.) < 1274383505 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run it and see what happens? < 1274383610 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've ran them all, but what I want is to find out if anyone of them has ripped most of their code from one of the provided examples. < 1274383617 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff? < 1274383668 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I guess I could diff, but I'd like a bit more sensible similarity measure. Something that's not defeated by changing variable names and newline placement. < 1274383704 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the code with a hex editor and check for obvious similarities? < 1274383719 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've connected via telnet to a HP3000 system. Does anyone know how I can download a file? < 1274383747 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If my fellow students in my computing class could rip off example programs I'd hold much more respect for them than I do now... < 1274383756 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly I could ran some diffs on the JVM disassembly. (I think that was approximately what one of the google-hits was doing.) < 1274383911 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contact Brenda Baker, bsb@bell-labs.com, for information about licensing the software from Lucent Technologies. < 1274384070 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: How does that help me notice similarities? < 1274384092 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from the paper "Deducing Similarities in Java Sources from Bytecodes" < 1274384107 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. The title sounds somewhat familiar. < 1274384126 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's four of the top ten results when I googled it < 1274384128 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need these ready by tomorrow. I hope Brenda's awake. < 1274384254 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, this one hasn't changed the variable names. The newline placement is changed, however. < 1274384284 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And for some reason there are spurious parentheses here and there.) < 1274384462 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my computing class, you aren't even taught to indent your code... < 1274384682 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit.. dubious to return to me code I've written myself. On the other hand, (a) this is not really a programming course, (b) using some from-the-web example code has been traditionally allowed, (c) the person has added sensible comments in my completely uncommented code, and (d) the report describes quite well what it's all about. < 1274384695 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess I'll have to let it slide. It just feels somehow sleazy still. < 1274384937 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of copying, two out of four of the participants so far have copied the minimax pseudocode directly from the Wikipedia article, without citing it. (One of those two mentions the article in the "references" section; the other does not have a "references" section.) < 1274385128 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: underflow < 1274385371 0 :hiato!~fdulu@41-135-6-154.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1274385631 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1274385648 0 :hiato!~fdulu@41-135-6-154.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1274385674 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1274385920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1274385950 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds those "Compensation for scam victims" spams slightly amusing
< 1274385980 0 :hiato!~fdulu@41-135-6-154.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1274385988 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least they have the right intended target audience, yessir < 1274386143 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I demand that something happen! < 1274386150 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats Phantom_Hoover -----###
< 1274386158 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we aim to please < 1274386207 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : so i use too many what? < 1274386222 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..., aka ellipses? < 1274386261 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wasn't the one who claimed that, anyhow
< 1274386473 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's what I said < 1274386490 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it usually "she"? < 1274386542 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what he said < 1274386616 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we are quite liberal here < 1274386755 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1274386982 0 :uorygl!~Warrigal@rrcs-70-63-156-144.midsouth.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274387795 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!~chatzilla@cpc5-sgyl29-2-0-cust220.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274387804 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274387805 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274387806 0 :Phantom_Hoover_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1274388828 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1274389245 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrr... I've spent the last two hours trying to download a file :-( < 1274389343 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do, or do not. There is no try. < 1274389458 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do, or wnload. < 1274389599 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: you mentioned something about telnet, so i assume this server does not have ssh? < 1274389627 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a large file? < 1274389647 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. I just can't figure the command to download it. Or even how to navigate to the file. < 1274389670 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall telnet having a file download command anyway < 1274389678 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um you cannot _find_ the file? < 1274389691 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i may just not know of it) < 1274389789 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the server has ssh, then my suggestion would be to use scp from your client machine < 1274389816 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet:198.212.189.111 login = "HELLO USER.CSLXL" then navigate through the menus 1, 9, 6, 6 < 1274389830 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the package I want to download. However I can't view it and I can't find the file when I start the shell < 1274389850 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The machine is a HP3000 running MPE < 1274389858 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever that is. < 1274389890 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back in a minute, need to reboot. < 1274389894 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.9/20100315083431] < 1274389932 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think my terminal likes the menus < 1274390047 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.113.249.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274390133 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: What can be done after 1,9,6,6 < 1274390148 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing that I can see. < 1274390160 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can make out little of the screen, it's not compatible with my terminal < 1274390164 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MPE enters the shell, but I can't navigate to the files. < 1274390217 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You may download programs using Minisoft or Reflection. Some configuration may be needed." :-P < 1274390749 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I completely killed my terminal program. I can't even reinstall it :-( < 1274390773 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1274390947 0 :Mappedd!~Janne@dsl-lprbrasgw1-fe9dfa00-26.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1274391135 0 :Mappedd!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1274391300 0 :ws!wswieb@akson.sgh.waw.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1274391322 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274391360 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274391402 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~chatzilla@cpc5-sgyl29-2-0-cust220.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274391446 0 :SgeoN1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1274392396 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find calculus to be increasingly shaky. < 1274392437 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The +c s are treated inconsistently. < 1274392556 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: That is a pretty solid silence. < 1274392582 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there are some slipups there < 1274392630 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sometimes you _can_ leave out the +c, like if you need just one antiderivative < 1274392645 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it doesn't have to be general < 1274392681 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and one such case is when you use it immediately to calculate a definite integral) < 1274392743 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHZzObQUgE8 < 1274393155 0 :golden!~5d883e7d@gateway/web/freenode/x-coamanjignbcnpxa JOIN :#esoteric < 1274393166 0 :Tritonio_GR!~Tritonio@150.140.227.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274393268 0 :golden!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1274393468 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTv6fFLVi4Q much better < 1274393900 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274394665 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274394908 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1274395086 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1274395311 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.9/20100315083431] < 1274395404 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1274395436 0 :charlls!~charlls@201.226.222.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274396536 0 :ZeroOne_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ZeroOne < 1274396620 0 :cheater4!~cheater@ip-80-226-242-164.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1274396726 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1274396915 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274396915 0 :cheater3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274396915 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274396947 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1274396957 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1274397195 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274397214 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274397640 0 :charlls!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274397903 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274397947 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: null < 1274398532 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1274398614 0 :uorygl!~Warrigal@rrcs-70-63-156-144.midsouth.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274399478 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274399554 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1274399758 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1274399999 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric