< 1261353731 0 :snakbar!i=snakbar@nor75-11-82-66-226-226.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1261353737 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1261353745 0 :osaunders!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1261353772 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1261353783 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have just written a bainfuck interpreter, but i'm not sure for it's complete working < 1261353798 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you give me some BF sources to test it? < 1261353838 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :++++++++++++++++[.+] < 1261353847 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should print lots of different letters < 1261353869 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :D < 1261353884 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one seems to work < 1261353891 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found that one on internet < 1261353892 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>++++++++++>+>+[ < 1261353892 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [+++++[>++++++++<-]>.<++++++[>--------<-]+<<<]>.>>[ < 1261353892 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-]<[>+<-]>>[<<+>+>-]<[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<- < 1261353892 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>[-]>+>+<<<-[>+<-]]]]]]]]]]]+>>> < 1261353892 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ]<<< < 1261353894 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1261353899 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that do? < 1261353901 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Brainfuck#Examples has a couple < 1261353904 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is supposed to show the fibonacci numbers < 1261353919 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not working with my interpreter < 1261353924 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1261353927 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1261353939 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1261353945 0 :osaunders!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whitespace issue? < 1261353957 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the source? < 1261353960 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you possibly debug something like this? < 1261353965 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this program is so complicated < 1261353965 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1261353972 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be another way to tackle it < 1261353985 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how have you written the interpreter? < 1261354005 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you test it, i'll know if it's the code or my program the problem < 1261354005 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1261354006 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1261354015 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snakbar: does that work? < 1261354020 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote it i c++ < 1261354040 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it long? < 1261354044 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it show @ yes < 1261354051 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too long < 1261354061 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why don't you paste it to a website < 1261354065 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snakbar: what if you insert some whitespace? < 1261354067 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see it < 1261354080 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, w8 a minute i'll do it all ^^ < 1261354097 0 :immibis_!n=immibis@125-236-168-227.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1261354109 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whitespace no problem < 1261354119 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1261354121 0 :immibis_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :immibis < 1261354147 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.>>>++++++++[<++++>-]<.>>>++++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<---.<<<<.+++.------.--------.>>+. < 1261354147 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1261354155 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snakbar: and that one? < 1261354190 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world is working < 1261354199 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my only problem was with the code i gave you < 1261354208 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm think we need to test something with nested loops... < 1261354213 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if it's supposed to work < 1261354232 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you give me a paste website, i can't find one right now < 1261354235 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1261354241 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastebin.ca? < 1261354245 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/ < 1261354258 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1261354260 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[>+] < 1261354276 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ((:)(:)) < 1261354291 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[.+] < 1261354291 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
 .. !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~�������������������������������������������������������������������������������� ... < 1261354298 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon: that's not brainfuck, do you mean ^ul ? < 1261354360 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >++++++++++>+>+[[+++++[>++++++++<-]>.<++++++[>--------<-]+<<<]>.>>[[-]<[>+<-]>>[<<+>+>-]<[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>[-]>+>+<<<-[>+<-]]]]]]]]]]]+>>>]<<<] < 1261354361 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55.89.144.233.377.610.987.1597.2584.4181.6765.10946.17711.28657.46368.75025.121393.196418.317811.514229.832040.1346269.2178309.3524578.5702887.9227465.14930352.24157817.39088169.632459 ... < 1261354373 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon: works in fungot < 1261354373 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but its a small city :) i like the lawyer stuff < 1261354381 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, snakbar < 1261354386 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1261354400 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize it printed in decimal < 1261354433 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1261354467 0 :osaunders!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bye" < 1261354483 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++[++++>-<]>. < 1261354483 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :� < 1261354500 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1261354504 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++[++++>+<]>. < 1261354504 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1261354565 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>-. < 1261354565 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1261354567 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1261354576 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>-. < 1261354576 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c < 1261354582 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1261354588 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping for more ?'s < 1261354590 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want me to post it entirely compilable, or just the main functions ? < 1261354599 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snakbar everything < 1261354603 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol okay < 1261354607 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snakbar: does ++++[++++>+<]>. work for you? otherwise it could be a wrapping issue < 1261354608 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to glance at it < 1261354629 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has some diferent files ^^ < 1261354639 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i put it on diferent pastes ? < 1261354666 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan > your code gives me one '?' < 1261354697 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1261354699 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Quitter!" < 1261354701 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm another thing < 1261354760 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++[->++++++++<][>.<+]>. < 1261354760 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1261354765 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is a first post, there are not ALL the files but every BF functions < 1261354766 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/1721881 < 1261354773 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snakbar: what does that give you? < 1261354780 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written mostly in french sorry ^ ^ < 1261354805 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gives a lot of @ < 1261354821 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ < 1261354821 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ < 1261354821 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ < 1261354821 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ < 1261354824 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snakbar: ah there we are. you are not skipping loops that start with 0 < 1261354827 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1261354856 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy mistake < 1261354859 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i enter a loop, if i'm 0 i should skip hmmmm < 1261354864 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okayyyyy < 1261355001 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there's a test suite for brainfuck like there's mycology for befunge... < 1261355022 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much to test < 1261355034 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementations tend to be upfront about cell size and memory limits < 1261355055 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well but for the basics < 1261355127 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is too easy < 1261355182 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon: what do you think about my code? < 1261355200 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to fix because it's well written < 1261355208 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D ^^ < 1261355320 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1261355502 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to fix it right now < 1261355946 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1261359395 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is my function now for the '[' sign in BF < 1261359396 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/1721941 < 1261359412 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work properly < 1261359418 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interpreter gets to crash < 1261359457 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just use an integer? start with 1, increment for [, decrement for ], stop when it gets to 0 < 1261359465 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some code work, other don't < 1261359501 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah why not, your right < 1261359566 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snakbar this is complicated < 1261359576 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too complicated for me :( < 1261359578 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have an easy solution? < 1261359622 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1261359645 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one would do a processing step when reading in the brainfuck program at first < 1261359662 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turning every [ into a label that says where the corresponding ] is < 1261359876 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1261359887 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's a simpler way < 1261359891 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1261359928 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the counter like immibis said looks simpler to me < 1261359933 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will try it tomirow < 1261359937 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting sleepy now < 1261359940 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I didn't notice that < 1261359986 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the counter is the same method i used, a little diferent. so i think my method should work, must be an error somewhere < 1261360015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/ <-- wow < 1261360023 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, did you watch it? < 1261360044 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um no < 1261360053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh, not even any part? < 1261360072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how boring < 1261360093 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow!!!!!!!!!! < 1261360097 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for linking this < 1261360104 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was 3D graphics at first < 1261360135 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i'm norwegian, we're spoiled with scenery already >:) < 1261360145 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it fits on a DVD hmmmmmmmmmm < 1261360148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, meh < 1261360169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon, what would have been 3D graphics? < 1261360181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: no it doesn't < 1261360186 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't watch tv, this is the first i hear about it becoming an internet phenomenon... < 1261360188 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the picture on that page looked like 3D graphics < 1261360189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The original file was 165 GB, too much for most people to download. We coded a 720 50P, 1280×720 version, resulting in a 22 GB file." < 1261360197 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way THAT fits on a dvd < 1261360208 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DVD are what 5 GB? < 1261360209 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck 22 GB is too much for me to download < 1261360228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon, 3.2 or so iirc? For single layer single sided < 1261360239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and burning dual layer just doesn't seem to work well in practise < 1261360246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad burns and such < 1261360270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what? internet phenomenon‽‽ < 1261360271 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1261360275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is crazy? < 1261360298 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well it said so on the page, more or less.. < 1261360304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1261360317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yeah I got the link from an american < 1261360320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess that is true < 1261360497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1261361196 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261361201 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://notalwaysright.com/when-open-source-meets-closed-minds/3305 < 1261361205 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEVIANT LINUX < 1261361278 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :epic < 1261362113 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1261362212 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info" < 1261364895 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1261366718 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1261368740 0 :alegend!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1261369476 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not fake at all. :| < 1261369478 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuy_qw@74.13.129.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261369816 0 :jpc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"goshdarnit." < 1261369826 0 :jpc!n=jw@unaffiliated/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261370060 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"* I'm too lame to read BitchX.doc *" < 1261370713 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261370729 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you seem to think i’m random, but i’m only psuedorandom. you would be exactly this way, were you seeded at the very same time and place." —why the lucky stiff < 1261370805 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wasn't that the guy who disappeared < 1261370819 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Well, no. < 1261370836 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He deleted himself from the Internet completely. < 1261370860 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, the host human of _why killed _why. < 1261370902 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That personality, those works, that *person*, is dead. And nobody knows why but him. < 1261371000 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least no one who is telling < 1261371017 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sad, but what can you do. Most courts only accept the murder of someone with a physical body. < 1261371062 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: yes, these are my real opinions on identity—although I don't think it should count as murder :P) < 1261371172 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1261371177 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the smallest extension to the pi calculus is that makes it TC. < 1261371181 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1261371195 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261371200 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you get that last message? < 1261371205 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't know the pi calculus wasn't TC
< 1261371210 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1261371223 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't by itself, I don't think. < 1261371229 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask Wikipedia? < 1261371232 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it had an embedding of lambda calculus into it < 1261371247 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I think that's am extension. < 1261371250 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an < 1261371262 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link me the WP page? < 1261371294 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_calculus#Turing_completeness < 1261371385 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can implement a typed pi calculus in Haskell. < 1261371388 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it's TC < 1261371624 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info" < 1261372299 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1261372864 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O omniscient fungot, what is the best question I could ask you right now? < 1261372865 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl: if i knew of sisc? is there anything wrong with it? :) < 1261372893 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O omniscient fungot, if i knew of sisc? is there anything wrong with it? < 1261372894 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl: but i don't think it's worth putting effort into optimizing keyword calls. every lambda's body is a shell, i think.... < 1261372954 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: learn of sisc; don't try to optimize keyword calls; every lambda's body is a shell. < 1261373007 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be neat if some future dude looked at these logs and figured that fung*t is actually omniscient and powerful. < 1261373023 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I'm sure has been said before. < 1261373356 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Has it been said before? < 1261373357 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: lua's popular because it's cheaper to buy a new house, and heal my computer with full u+ support" then :) < 1261373575 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gn8 thanks for help < 1261373577 0 :snakbar!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Quitte" < 1261375244 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you omniscient and powerful? < 1261375245 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: ssh, don't tell me that i forgot to apply sunscreen on my ears, la la la i can't hear a fig? < 1261375259 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you forgot to apply sunscreen on my ears < 1261375260 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: maybe i'll combine them fnord by keeping expressions and statements different things. fnord foo 1/ n fnord bar 1/ n fnord bar 1/! < 1261375273 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders where the line before the previous one came form
< 1261375274 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from* < 1261375280 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you do that. < 1261375281 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: an exception can be raised to the fnord < 1261375285 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ah i see < 1261375287 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: hehe. btw, it's ruby code but it's chaotic neutral, in d&d terms. bear with me) up-from to in-sequence suggests the use of improper lists in this manner < 1261375312 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please don't talk nonsense < 1261375411 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have a win32 binary rcfunge? < 1261375414 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1261375420 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1261375600 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1261375714 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1261375995 0 :immibis!n=immibis@125-236-168-227.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1261377010 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1261377619 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1261379752 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1261382399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1261382400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1261383798 0 :jpc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1261383950 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-169-7-136.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1261384289 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Radiateur" < 1261384393 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1261390487 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1261391185 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@client-86-31-77-81.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1261392266 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-4-84.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1261393501 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1261394649 0 :FireFly!n=firefly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1261395686 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1261396152 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1261399538 0 :Slereah_!n=Slereah@ANantes-259-1-72-253.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1261400049 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-169-7-136.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1261400121 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1261400781 0 :osaunders!n=osaunder@89.242.250.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261400903 0 :osaunders!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a POSIX funge98 compiler/interpreter? < 1261401036 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1261401777 0 :osaunders_!n=osaunder@89.240.196.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261402193 0 :osaunders!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1261402193 0 :osaunders_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :osaunders < 1261402876 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@cpc11-pres4-0-0-cust168.pres.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1261404317 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :osaunders: cfunge is one < 1261404376 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CCBI may be another, depending on what you mean by something being POSIX < 1261408574 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1261410075 0 :osaunders!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Thank you. < 1261410197 0 :osaunders!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh you wrote CCBI. < 1261411754 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did, yes. :-P < 1261411771 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :osaunders, and I wrote cfunge < 1261412582 0 :osaunders!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impressive. < 1261413469 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1261414199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhu < 1261414975 0 :jpc!n=jw@unaffiliated/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261415024 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@client-86-31-30-220.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1261415112 0 :soupdragon!n=quantum@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1261415189 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1261415257 0 :osaunders_!n=osaunder@89.241.41.82 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261415502 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"* I'm too lame to read BitchX.doc *" < 1261415528 0 :soupdragon!n=quantum@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1261415631 0 :osaunders!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1261415631 0 :osaunders_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :osaunders < 1261420928 0 :osaunders!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1261424047 0 :adam_d_!n=Adam@client-86-31-30-220.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1261424616 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261424659 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should send Mike Riley an email, instead of putting it off. < 1261424853 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1261424857 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261424925 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1261425208 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1261425470 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261425487 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sent and forwarded to AnMaster, in case he cares. < 1261425621 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1261425654 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1261426029 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Did you reply to Mike yourself? < 1261426039 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261426041 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Hmm. < 1261426067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no < 1261426071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, hmm what? < 1261426075 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't run mail client atm < 1261426081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, that computer is running memtest < 1261426090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at least 8 more hours < 1261426114 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, btw I'm probably planning to switch from gentoo on my current desktop. Or upgrade it's components < 1261426115 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You said hm recently. < 1261426123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is getting too slow nowdays < 1261426135 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1261426138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't keep up with the higher demands of new software < 1261426144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow did that scare him that much? < 1261426146 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1261426146 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261426148 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Do you want me to forward my email to you too? < 1261426179 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Might as well, I suppose < 1261426185 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1261426189 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1261426224 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261426237 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Sent to deewiant@iki.fi. < 1261426276 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheers < 1261426289 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: From Gentoo to what? < 1261426306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, not sure, probably arch for desktop < 1261426311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, and it won't happen soon < 1261426316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :becuase I have no time to do it < 1261426328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, but since I'm planning to get a new harddrive anyway for it. probably then < 1261426346 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSD! SSD! < 1261426363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, too expensive. Not enough space. Plus it would probably be faster than the system bus ;P < 1261426379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, 500 GB SATA harddrive is what I will go for < 1261426381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more < 1261426394 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 160 GiB Intel SSD ~= $400 < 1261426403 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :80 GiB = less < 1261426410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, I can't live with 80 GB < 1261426413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 350 now < 1261426414 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adequate for a system drive. < 1261426417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is a bit cramped < 1261426438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's true < 1261426440 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /home goes elsewhere < 1261426461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, arch has fewer packages than gentoo < 1261426464 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, 1 TB over 500 GB, no question. < 1261426480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, yeah I guess we have to move with the time < 1261426483 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like $30 more for twice the space. < 1261426489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*remembers ibook with 3.2 GB harddrive* < 1261426491 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: $400 for a drive is too expensive < 1261426504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it in SEK? < 1261426512 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2908 < 1261426519 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yeah agreed < 1261426539 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's not a drive, it's a box that magically speeds up your computer more than most CPU upgrades. < 1261426559 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And makes it quieter and more reliable. < 1261426575 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all relative < 1261426584 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, it's mostly a drive. :-P < 1261426592 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, 80 GiB is more like $250 < 1261426592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, it doesn't because you still need the hard-drive for data < 1261426609 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nothing I said was false. < 1261426619 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QuietER, not silent. < 1261426621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, yes that it makes your computer quieter < 1261426631 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReliableER, not reliable. < 1261426642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more reliable I agree < 1261426648 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Think about it. < 1261426650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, but: since now it is ssd + harddrive instead of harddrive < 1261426659 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have the same noise + no noise < 1261426663 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HD accessed less = less noise. < 1261426666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and x+0=x < 1261426670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, hm okay < 1261426671 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty damn obvious. < 1261426679 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A generation 2 Intel X25-M would be 205 € here < 1261426683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, but most accesses are from my data disk < 1261426685 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my experience < 1261426696 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland has shite prices :P < 1261426705 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Absolutely false. < 1261426707 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not far from your $250 < 1261426714 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's $286 < 1261426722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, well, I just based it on stats from my own system < 1261426742 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: OSs put shit in RAM after the first access < 1261426745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using iostat < 1261426745 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: If all you do is manipulate ridiculously big RAW files, maybe. < 1261426758 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't know Euros. < 1261426761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, no, you mean 16-bit per channel tiff! < 1261426770 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, and HDR floating point encoded tiff < 1261426772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1261426785 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Also, the stats are that SSDs speed up common tasks by quite a lot. < 1261426800 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's science for you. < 1261426800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, such as compiling? < 1261426802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is common for me < 1261426813 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1261426815 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compiling is mostly CPU-bound < 1261426816 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, I think what I buy should be based on my own usage stats :) < 1261426820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, exactly < 1261426838 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anandtech or something tested it and they saw something like a 1% speedup with SSDs < 1261426838 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, unless it is g++ in which case it is also "more ram than you have"-bound < 1261426845 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compiling Linux, IIRC < 1261426856 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe Firefox or something. < 1261426868 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The majority of desktop tasks you perform are highly different in workings to common ones? < 1261426873 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that unlikely. < 1261426883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dm-2 0.14 1.06 1.01 379858 361568 # this is /home < 1261426892 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it was Pidgin < 1261426894 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631&p=25 < 1261426895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dm-3 0.17 0.73 0.01 260700 2308 # This is /usr < 1261426902 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :headers are: < 1261426904 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Device: tps Blk_read/s Blk_wrtn/s Blk_read Blk_wrtn < 1261426915 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, the difference was essentially zero for HDD vs SSD < 1261426921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and / is: < 1261426922 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pidgin uses monotone as their VCS. No joke. < 1261426923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dm-0 0.00 0.01 0.00 4458 40 < 1261426926 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is even less < 1261426960 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, see my point? < 1261426967 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info" < 1261426972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/boot just has 5 read and 1 write < 1261427010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(estimated, since it is based on taking all the dm-* on sda and the values for sda and checking difference) < 1261427014 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631&p=20 reminds me why I don't care about SSDs enough at their current price range < 1261427018 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1261427050 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He starts three resource-intensive programs after boot and sees an improvement of 24 seconds < 1261427109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well that is great. My boot time is around 35 seconds on my desktop < 1261427111 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) I don't do that 2) Even if I would, I don't care if it takes two minutes. I can busy myself in the already-instantly-enough-starting firefox/thunderbird for much longer than that. < 1261427115 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would make it almost instant < 1261427126 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on my laptop it would BOOT BEFORE I PRESSED THE BUTTON < 1261427131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that is crazily fast < 1261427147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also slightly creepy < 1261427158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a computer being able to predict when I will turn it on < 1261427162 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't about boot time, it was about program startup time. < 1261427173 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, don't ruin a good joke < 1261427181 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since when does Firefox start anywhere near instantly? < 1261427185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, also firefox is slow to start < 1261427194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :konqueror is near instant < 1261427211 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my Linux machine it's instantaneous enough for me. < 1261427228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, arch? hm not readahead then by default < 1261427611 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booted into Linux; Thunderbird takes about 5 seconds to start, Firefox about 10. When typing the commands for the four or so programs I typically start right away, that's too fast - it interrupts my typing. < 1261427647 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, make a script to do it < 1261427655 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and name it ~/s or so < 1261427680 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuy_qw@bas2-toronto47-1279282702.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1261427682 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I don't always start up the same things. < 1261427690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well okay ~/s 1 < 1261427701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for first configuration and so on < 1261427704 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have 9 or less < 1261427714 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise use base64 encoding of the number < 1261427729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1261427738 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather just type the stuff :-P < 1261427749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, automation is good < 1261427759 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just an O(1) improvement < 1261427818 0 :osaunders!n=osaunder@89.241.41.82 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261427850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, per time yes < 1261427853 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1261427862 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well still a constant factor < 1261427883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, you could want to start more instances every time? < 1261427887 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and write a script to do it < 1261427896 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that is rather contrived < 1261427897 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I wouldn't < 1261427922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, use the ackermann function to calculate number of instances of to start ;P < 1261428013 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One instance is enough, and I already have it bound to a shortcut key so I don't really need any more help there :-P < 1261428074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"meh" < 1261428086 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly. :-P < 1261428129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no you can't use that comment here < 1261428132 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't work < 1261428280 0 :adam_d_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :adam_d < 1261428649 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261428660 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIKE IS GOING TO KILL HIMSELF < 1261428672 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Deewiant: forwarded < 1261428682 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, what? < 1261428693 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I always right about these things >_< < 1261428710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, alas my mail client is now rebuilding so can't check right atm < 1261428716 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you just have that effect on people :-P < 1261428725 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh... < 1261428727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah I said I was probably switching to arch, see!) < 1261428737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, that is too nasty < 1261428755 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, sorry. < 1261428808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wow, did I just take ehird in defence or something?) < 1261428850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, so I finally went firefox 3.5 < 1261428861 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm pissed off with it for the second time < 1261428872 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sure will be fun for his family and friends going through the shock and grief that will probably never fully go away. Unless he doesn't have any. < 1261428880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why the heck is it ignoring my scroll wheel < 1261428888 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what way < 1261428891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, try to contact them < 1261428893 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AnMaster:^) < 1261428909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, actually it doesn't react to clicks either < 1261428917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the command to disable all extensions= < 1261428923 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: And what can they do? < 1261428923 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-safemode or something < 1261428925 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run --help < 1261428930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, let see. < 1261428933 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He needs professional help. < 1261428940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, they can help him get that < 1261428942 0 :adam_d_!n=Adam@client-81-109-210-2.leed.adsl.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1261428953 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if he consents. < 1261428962 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's suicidal, remember? < 1261428967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow: < 1261428969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is embarrassing. < 1261428969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1261428969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1261428969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1261428969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1261428970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1261428971 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do try to keep up. < 1261428972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1261428975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox is having trouble recovering your windows and tabs. This is usually caused by a recently opened web page. < 1261428987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a nice error < 1261428988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from firefox < 1261428998 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it can be handy. < 1261429018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what can be? < 1261429048 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That error page. < 1261429052 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suicide is probably among the most selfish things you can do. < 1261429064 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed. < 1261429070 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. One way to find out for sure < 1261429070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, indeed < 1261429089 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Oh the comedy. < 1261429133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, sorry but I have to rush, you and Deewiant has to handle this with Mike Riley < 1261429145 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, what fun. < 1261429200 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know! Suicide is illegal, let's tell the police! ...not. < 1261429270 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus's death was effectively a suicide < 1261429280 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's considered by some to be the most altruistic act ever < 1261429322 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mike can't forgive sins. < 1261429326 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a martyr that can be reshaped into a religion, then Jesus and the God are essentially similar, or "homeomorphic", as topologists say < 1261429327 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dying for the sins of mankind and dying because you're sad are two different things < 1261429331 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, neither could Jesus. < 1261429347 0 :adam_d__!n=Adam@client-81-109-210-2.leed.adsl.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1261429356 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only because he didn't exist. < 1261429364 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the argument could be made that the world would be a better place had Jesus not killed himself either :-P < 1261429400 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus asked, in essence, whether all sins that are not twisted and have no holes in them are homeomorphic to sodomy < 1261429417 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only the invisible pink unicorn did not have to become invisible so that we would not rape her. < 1261429436 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor raped invisible pink unicorn < 1261429472 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mike mentioned going to church once. Isn't suicide a sin? < 1261429481 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from martyrdom. < 1261429513 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the brand of Christianity, I believe. < 1261429529 0 :adam_d__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1261429543 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_suicide < 1261429560 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_homotopy < 1261429574 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon: Methinks you're on crack. < 1261429648 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just fax. :P < 1261429722 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homoerotic homomorphy! < 1261429726 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info" < 1261429765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is doing a binary search of extensions to find the broken one
< 1261429777 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's breaking? < 1261429811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, clicking anything except scrollbar and menu bar, scrolling with scroll wheel, opening any dialog (including add-ons one) < 1261429838 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1261430022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the. binary search gives weird results. < 1261430031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is an interaction between two then < 1261430038 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many extensions do you have? < 1261430044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, 6 or so iirc < 1261430052 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not too bad < 1261430060 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can try all 64 combinations :-P < 1261430061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1261430091 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh wait it seems at least two extensions is to blame < 1261430113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I localised the "can't open dialog" thing to google customize < 1261430120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is sadly unmaintained < 1261430131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so dropping that < 1261430160 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean http://www.customizegoogle.com/ ? Works for me < 1261430167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oops, misremembered: 12 < 1261430182 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4096 is a bit too many to try < 1261430210 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1261430237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, also found another issue: pasting with middle mouse button in address box broken < 1261430276 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works for me fine as well < 1261430305 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I appear to have 26 extensions enabled and 4 disabled < 1261430318 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well it does indeed seem to be an interaction of sorts < 1261430338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a sec < 1261430345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a horrible suspcion
< 1261430354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I was right < 1261430364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't deterministic < 1261430372 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, restarting firefox sometimes fixes it < 1261430378 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Six, out of which one is disabled. (More data points is always good. What, you weren't compiling extension usage statistics after all?) < 1261430379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes introduces it < 1261430389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I didn't count the disabled ones < 1261430398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two disabled < 1261430417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the crap happened now < 1261430420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the add-ons dialog < 1261430439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrollbar on wrong side and all the icons at the top replaced with empty white < 1261430455 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Now you managed to make me interested in whether such statistics exist < 1261430512 0 :adam_d__!n=Adam@client-81-109-210-2.leed.adsl.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1261430515 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on a quick Googling, it appears not. < 1261430544 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: addons.mozilla.org has their download statistics, but that's not really it. < 1261430546 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1261430576 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. I was thinking more in terms of "mean number of extensions installed" type things. < 1261430638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, fizzie: either of you use tab mix plus? < 1261430642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what about firebug? < 1261430650 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither. < 1261430657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm < 1261430664 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, adblock plus? noscript? < 1261430669 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter. < 1261430673 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former on the N900. < 1261430705 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: All four of those. < 1261430719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm: < 1261430725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[NoScript] [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIPrefBranch2.removeObserver]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://noscript/content/Main.js :: anonymous :: line 761" data: no] while disposing. < 1261430727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on terminal < 1261430728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks bad < 1261430739 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only hit I can find is one in a russian forum < 1261430743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how useless < 1261430745 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Firebug category, I do have the good old DOM Inspector installed. < 1261430752 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and it wasn't the same < 1261430756 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just similar < 1261430849 0 :adam_d_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1261430990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, would it be a good idea to email Mike Riley. I don't know what to sya < 1261430991 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say* < 1261431008 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you wish < 1261431120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well customizegoogle alone works < 1261431124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so indeed an interaction < 1261431152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm does MKRY live in US? < 1261431159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so recommending professional help might be bad < 1261431160 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1261431162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :costs and such < 1261431168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he can't afford it < 1261431205 0 :adam_d__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :adam_d < 1261431716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm it looks like noscript is bugged < 1261431742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange < 1261431749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe resetting it's settings would help < 1261432622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no < 1261432630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't make head or tail out of this < 1261432857 0 :omologos!n=oscar@189.151.43.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261432882 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261432903 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You know, most people in the US have health insurance. < 1261432912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, hm okay < 1261432935 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mike probably quit his job if he's tying up loose ends though < 1261432942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, hm < 1261432946 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he probably doesn't have any < 1261432953 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not like he'd want it < 1261433032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Most people in the US have health insurance, sure. It doesn't necessarily cover everything, they will feel free to drop you at the slightest chance, and they will still charge you through the nose to use said insurance. < 1261433146 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION then goes and sees context, and is confused.
< 1261433218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what are you confused about < 1261433246 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is this Mike Riley person, anyways? < 1261433262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mike Riley is planning suicide. Due to as he says "dealing with severe depression now for the past couple years and at this point I have pretty much given up" < 1261433268 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, the author of RC/Funge < 1261433278 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1261433335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all things considered I think this is pretty bad to say the least < 1261433342 0 :ehirdiphone_!n=ehirdiph@82.132.139.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261433362 0 :ehirdiphone_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The strategy most likely to work is to convince him to hold it off, "just to make sure he really wants to". < 1261433382 0 :ehirdiphone_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything before that is just racing against an unpredictable clock. < 1261433383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone_, send a mail to him about it. You are better at English than I am. < 1261433403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone_, also you obviously know this somehow < 1261433408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than I do < 1261433414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(about how to prevent it) < 1261433421 0 :ehirdiphone_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I will. But I'm out of my league, I need to think about it. < 1261433430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone_, there might not be much time < 1261433447 0 :ehirdiphone_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Half seeing what other successful preventers do, half logic. < 1261433448 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1261433449 0 :ehirdiphone_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehirdiphone < 1261433464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never seen any such. < 1261433475 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, we probably gave at least a day or two. He did say he was tying up loose ends. < 1261433495 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have < 1261433503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, you don't have much timne < 1261433504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time* < 1261433510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we* < 1261433557 0 :omologos!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1261433558 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1261433592 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably we need a group of people here to show support at some point. < 1261433615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, I sign up. I guess Deewiant would too. < 1261433623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure who else < 1261433656 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He thinks he knows that you two hate him. It's a good idea, but it probably won't work without others as well. < 1261433688 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he doesn't want Rc/Funge to die with him maybe we could use that < 1261433713 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe ask him to do one final code cleanup ;-) < 1261433740 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does he write that? < 1261433749 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Email. < 1261433769 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he ever come to this channel? < 1261433780 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He used to. < 1261433799 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was his nick? < 1261433804 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we could convince him to call the Good Samaritans < 1261433812 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: MikeRiley < 1261433819 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1261433859 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good samaritans are practically in the business of preventing suicide after all < 1261433897 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how good suicide prevention services are < 1261433905 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like they can really do anything < 1261433925 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: They can talk. That can be helpful. < 1261433930 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people don't really want to kill themselves < 1261433938 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik there's a significant number of people who complain to their doctor about suicidal thoughts < 1261433944 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then go and kill themselves < 1261433948 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mike wouldn't do it if his depression was cured for instance < 1261433956 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Cry for help < 1261433969 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the point is, the doctor can't do much < 1261433989 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps some sort of chemical intervention would be appropriate... < 1261433997 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doctors aren't specialists in that area... < 1261434010 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that would not work, long term. < 1261434055 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emergency measure, at least < 1261434059 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, I talked to my dad about this. He is a professor in psychology. < 1261434082 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psychology is 99% unscientific bullshit. < 1261434084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his tip: keep a discussion open, ask him about details, try to recommend medicine (unless he already tried it) < 1261434086 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But go on. < 1261434105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and try to get him to seek pro help < 1261434106 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need a degree to come up with that? :P < 1261434135 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, that's my plan at least. < 1261434136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, well he said it was hard to know without details, like if it was season-dependant and such < 1261434137 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can't get any magical positivist solutions either so < 1261434193 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1261434223 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi zzo38. Not the best time to pop in if you want esolangs talk. < 1261434237 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're trying to prevent a suicide... < 1261434263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, also: if he is Christian, try to get him to talk to a priest or such (could be easier in US than pro help) < 1261434278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was another suggestion < 1261434297 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Preists are not qualified for anything but bullshitology. < 1261434303 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1261434305 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remind you < 1261434309 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it would help. < 1261434314 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is positivism getting you < 1261434350 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Priests are not qualified for anything but religion and the religious service (unless, of course, they know other things too) < 1261434363 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: priests perform the same function as psychologists, and they have many more centuries of experience of performing it. < 1261434371 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"THINGS FALL DOWN." "God" "Magic" "Well no science bring offered GOD IT IS" < 1261434378 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in addition to other things priests do, of course. < 1261434394 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: ugh shut up < 1261434400 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no science bring offered < 1261434426 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon: Typos! So comedical. < 1261434497 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, we're having an argument about nothing. < 1261434517 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're still retarded < 1261434525 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1261434529 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_%28breakfast_cereal%29 < 1261434542 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*HOW TO ARGUE ABOUT NOTHING* < 1261434605 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably if the guy "dealt with severe depression for the past couple years" he has already looked into medical solutions < 1261434617 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disagree. < 1261434632 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do whatever solution works for you, because some people it is different < 1261434636 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you asked why he is depressed < 1261434641 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dealt is being used in the sense of "carried on" IMO < 1261434644 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a good question to ask < 1261434653 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon: Thats my next step < 1261434660 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1261434671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I doubt it would help. <--- who knows. It might. It might not. < 1261434696 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In how many Forth systems are the WHILE and IF command interchangeable? And in which ones are WHILE and IF commands *not* interchangeable? < 1261434759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, asking if he tried medicine (SRRI ones) might be good < 1261434767 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor < 1261434779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err make that SSRI of course < 1261434812 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Half Moon Books telephone is still busy < 1261434894 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder < 1261434928 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we've covered what to do. I'll reply tomorrow, hopefully, as I'm the one he's told. < 1261434938 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: You wonder... < 1261434944 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if, say, your family dies in a car crash, you girlfriend whom you love leaves you with your best friend, you get fired, and your house gets broken into and all the valuables stolen < 1261434947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, why not today? < 1261434962 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you would be rather upset by all that < 1261434964 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPhone typing is nit fun. < 1261434969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time is probably short. Could be hours in worst case, days in best case < 1261434971 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can you just take some SSRI and be happy again? < 1261434976 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament no < 1261434983 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not hours. < 1261434986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, there is a delay with SSRI on a few weeks. < 1261435008 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose you start taking SSRI a few weeks in advance, then :) < 1261435020 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't make you happy < 1261435021 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He said that he's tying up loose ends. Rcfunge would not be the last item on the todo < 1261435071 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon: but would you at least not be sad? < 1261435075 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon: that's a bit frightening honestly < 1261435082 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you would still be very sad < 1261435093 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just stops you from being able to cry < 1261435099 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jolly < 1261435103 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fiddles with your sleep < 1261435113 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If SSRI removes such emotions, surely that is what depression is. So it won't. < 1261435118 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugs don't really make the world go round (not yet anyway) < 1261435123 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon: Sounds awful. < 1261435129 0 :kwertii!n=kwertii@c-67-180-202-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1261435148 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, masterpiece of scientific thinking there < 1261435171 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: In reference to? < 1261435179 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : and fiddles with your sleep < 1261435179 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : If SSRI removes such emotions, surely that is what depression is. So it won't. < 1261435206 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that much before that on my end. < 1261435210 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reasoning: < 1261435212 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose clinical depression is different from grief and other related things < 1261435215 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1261435225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, consider that some people are helped by SSRI, depressions must be truly awful < 1261435243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, well yes < 1261435244 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depression is usually referred to as lacking "happy" or "sad" < 1261435251 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. science < 1261435259 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: maybe you should look up clinical depression on wikipedia < 1261435278 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's drugs like alchohol < 1261435283 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depressents < 1261435285 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: it was back of the envelope rough approx reasoning < 1261435292 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yes < 1261435302 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing "depression = sad" on the back of an envelope < 1261435310 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, nice, suicidal thoughts are actually one of possible side-effects of SSRI < 1261435314 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I did not say that. < 1261435318 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At all. < 1261435334 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said the opposite in fact < 1261435378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, as well as being used to prevent it. < 1261435395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, I suspect it is complex < 1261435399 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no kidding < 1261435400 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw using my irc taps on an iPhone against a statement I made about an entire field of "legit" study < 1261435407 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a low blow < 1261435423 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1261435435 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter should be held to MUCH higher standards < 1261435438 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: so why are you replying tomorrow and not right now? < 1261435439 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1261435474 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: iPhone typing is not so fun. My fingers aren't happy. < 1261435494 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... a great justification < 1261435503 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :P(mike commits suicide before tomorrow) = a very low number < 1261435503 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm impressed < 1261435529 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you'll just have to take that chance < 1261435531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, you are typing a lot on it now < 1261435539 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1261435549 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your thoughts about text-adventure games? < 1261435559 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll also note that what everyone else is doing mostly amounts to sneering on the sidelines < 1261435564 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So fuck off < 1261435577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, no. I have sent him a mail already < 1261435595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, you are better at English and such. < 1261435608 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take chances every day. quite a few with a lot higher probability than him offing himself before tomorrow < 1261435621 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do type a lot < 1261435623 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, say, being in a car < 1261435639 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very well < 1261435657 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: The iPhones screen isn't big enough to review a long email reasonably anyway < 1261435664 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I do thank you for your concern, it is appreciated. In 39 years of dealing with the underlying problem there has been nobody who has been able to help. < 1261435668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, just got that reply < 1261435669 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1261435673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck < 1261435693 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...a really bad ingrown toenail!" < 1261435700 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invite him to IRC < 1261435702 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*out of place rimshot* < 1261435713 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i don't know this riley guy. Do you think it's important that ehirdiphone writes him an email today? < 1261435717 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Quitter!" < 1261435725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, well maybe. He is the author of RC/Funge < 1261435739 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is for identification of who this is) < 1261435747 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster is estimating the probability of him following through within days as high < 1261435753 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irrationally < 1261435754 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean important for sake of the guy, not esolangs... < 1261435772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, well of course. But I don't know. < 1261435779 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o lament < 1261435781 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+b *!*=ehirdiph@82.132.139.* < 1261435785 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the least i could do < 1261435811 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: see, I gave your fingers some relief < 1261435812 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why should you do that < 1261435823 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invite him to IRC!!!!!!!!!!! < 1261435835 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? < 1261435979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, :/ < 1261436003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon, I'm not sure that is a good idea. This requires well thought out lines. < 1261436016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll leave that to ehirdiphone < 1261436077 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, as for it being irrationally. We just interpreted what tying up loose ends means differently < 1261436135 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1261436254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: < 1261436260 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking for the underlying reason: < 1261436262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" I would rather not say exactly, other than a very major birth defect. The depression comes and goes, usually gets worse each time." < 1261436271 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh uh < 1261436289 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: have you asked him if he has tried drug treatments? < 1261436323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, I used the word medicine, but yes < 1261436363 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck why is ehirdiphone such a horrible little bitch < 1261436365 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pissed off < 1261436378 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament haha I think it's a great question < 1261436401 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1261436811 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which IRC server software has,only two features I require, + type channels and channel logging. All of the others have too much features that I don't ever need < 1261436923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, could you please unban him < 1261436960 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I don't know of any with + type channels except the one ircnet uses < 1261436966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it may be the only one < 1261436987 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: he logged out anyway < 1261436997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, maybe because of you. < 1261437009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he will be back tomorrow probably < 1261437041 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The ircnet one however has a lot of other features too. I am looking for one with only + type and not # or & channels, and many commands not needed such as KICK MODE NS CS WALLOPS etc < 1261437057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, afaik no such one exists < 1261437059 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how can I make all channels logging by the server, I can add a new command called LOG command < 1261437082 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However.. < 1261437086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, also without kick and mode it won't follow the RFC that defines the IRC protocol < 1261437090 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you ever play a text-adventure game? < 1261437097 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :text-adventure < 1261437099 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I know, it will be incomplete < 1261437101 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I LIKE < 1261437126 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those commands are not needed in this case < 1261437128 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, it happened that I played colossal cave < 1261437139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which iirc is the original one < 1261437167 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes it is original one but also I ask, if any newer ones, or if you ever tried to write one, etc < 1261437228 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261437245 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test < 1261437276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, never tried to write one. < 1261437279 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: OK < 1261437280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, wb < 1261437305 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Havr you asked whether he has seeked prof help for the depression not the defect? < 1261437305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, forwarded last mail from him to you < 1261437320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no < 1261437330 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1261437337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might not have been clear which I meant < 1261437345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, see forwarded mail < 1261437350 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :K < 1261437353 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1261437408 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261437414 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anmaster did not receive < 1261437438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, strange < 1261437454 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brb going off iPhone < 1261437456 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1261437459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, Penguinofthegods AT gmail.com? < 1261437462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1261437467 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-b *!*=ehirdiph@82.132.139.* < 1261437480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, long live dynamic ip < 1261437495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a huge range too < 1261437510 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes but what a little bitch < 1261437536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, I disagree. I this case I have no reason to argue with him < 1261437679 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't like their messages, use the SILENCE command to block them < 1261437716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, /ignore. iirc freenodes doesn't have server side silence < 1261437737 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the freenode servers do have SILENCE command < 1261437788 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send the SILENCE command and then you can see whether or not your server supports it or not. < 1261437796 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SILENCE MORTAL < 1261437853 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe freenode does then < 1261437856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, only some? < 1261437861 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds very very strange < 1261437896 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, only some. I know that sometimes when I connect it is valid command, and sometimes it is invalid. It seems to depend which server < 1261437931 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it is possible to select which server you want directly, but you can try < 1261438043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well of course it is. just use the host name for the specific one < 1261438048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see which one you are on in the motd < 1261438411 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need to use the MOTD to see which one you are on < 1261438435 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just sending any unknown command or the SILENCE command, or various others, will tell you which server you are on in the sender field of the reply < 1261438689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, in a proper irc client you don't see that. It being abstracted away :) < 1261438703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, anyway you can use the host name to connect to < 1261438721 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course a server might be removed or such in the future < 1261438803 0 :snakbar!i=snakbar@nor75-11-82-66-226-226.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1261438815 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abstracted away?? What do you mean, of course it should tell you who the sender of the message is < 1261438833 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see it on my computer, at least (in dark cyan) < 1261438857 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, yes it tells me it is the server < 1261438865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't usually need to worry what server < 1261438900 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tells me it is the server by using a grey * in front of the line < 1261438913 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is very compact < 1261438928 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, it is very compact < 1261438930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :saves space < 1261438970 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I like the way I have it on my computer, that is why I made it like this. This way it will display all of the fields, in the colors according to which field it is < 1261438980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean with that O? < 1261438998 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1261439005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each to his or her own :) < 1261439024 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1261439028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally I'm happy with a conventional irc client after some modification of settings < 1261439032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I like lots of features < 1261439038 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't mind a few that I don't use < 1261439041 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which settings? And which features? < 1261439045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I use the majority) < 1261439062 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but which settings and features, specifically? < 1261439064 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well, settings could be some of the formatting strings, like how it should align nicks < 1261439079 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it right-align against column 9 < 1261439089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they are wider they overflow into the text < 1261439096 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that makes the text quite readable < 1261439109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, small stuff like that. < 1261439119 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1261439123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"never send a version reply" of course too < 1261439144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :default quit message change. some aliases < 1261439154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I set /aa to mean "allserv away < 1261439164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/"/ < 1261439175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :allserv means "send once to each server I'm connected to" < 1261439188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this lets me set away status quickly < 1261439230 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The client I use supports some of these features. /SET ANSWER is used to tell it whether or not to autoreply to VERSION and stuff < 1261439230 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, oh and where I want to have the channel tree view < 1261439247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for server and channels under it < 1261439249 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.233.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1261439252 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/SET FORMAT turns on formatting by control codes or off to make it display the control codes themself, instead < 1261439252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wb < 1261439255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, got the mail? < 1261439260 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/SET SHOWTIME makes it show the time < 1261439288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well, not the kind of options I would set. Also are they saved? < 1261439303 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And /MAC can be used to set macros, including the things you have described, such as QUIT message and AWAY and stuff < 1261439308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, and more important: will it support multiple servers and handle hundreds of channels easily < 1261439316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nope < 1261439317 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they are not saved, but you can store them in the configuration file and then it will be automatically set < 1261439322 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, weird. < 1261439329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I can paste the new lines in /msg < 1261439334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: dcc it if you want < 1261439372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, OS X is so comfy coming from an iPhone. < 1261439397 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, it can't support many channels simultaneously currently, although you can have multiple servers in multiple windows. Possibly I can add a way to create a new window with the same server and different filters, and create a macro to redirect each channel to a separate window, maybe in the next version < 1261439464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I don't think I will use your irc client anyway < 1261439474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly because I'm happy with what I use already < 1261439480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly because we have different goals < 1261439480 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's OK < 1261439496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Damn, OS X is so comfy coming from an iPhone. <-- I thought iphone ran OS X. Well a scaled down version of it. < 1261439520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a totally different UI, yes. < 1261439527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fair enough < 1261439536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's remarkably easy to do research and stuff on for something so small. < 1261439545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a real Mac kind of blows it out of the water a billion times. < 1261439551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, be glad that you can use apps from elsewhere than OS X AppStore ;P < 1261439574 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course, the command /SET AUTOPONG is useful too < 1261439576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I bet a real linux system would as well. < 1261439588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes, it would. < 1261439590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never contested that, < 1261439592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that. < 1261439598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I don't think it should be an option. Rather always have it on. There is no point in not having it < 1261439608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I didn't mean to imply you did < 1261439612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The iPhone is pretty flawless as a mobile device and does remarkably well for non-mobile things; that's all I'm saying. < 1261439617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a full computer is, yeah, better. < 1261439621 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a few people who turn it off sometimes (I don't know what client, though) < 1261439672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, only reason I can think of is ircd developing and testing some weird bug related to it < 1261439679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I would be using netcat anyway < 1261439721 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I have seen is some people prefer to turn off autopong instead of quitting < 1261439734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, pretty strange < 1261439737 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know why < 1261439758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a good way to try to not look as if they quit in a row or such < 1261439834 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do your IRC clients mask the password? I have heard that some people say their client won't mask the password < 1261439842 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know why? < 1261439857 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully, if it doesn't do so, you can modify the software or tell the people who wrote it to fix it