< 1255651245 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255651522 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"installing extensions" < 1255651640 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1255652773 0 :ehird_!n=ehird@212.183.140.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255652793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1255652794 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1255653889 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1255653892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I can install System 6 from scratch and boot into it in the time it takes Windows XP to boot up... < 1255655573 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive decided that La jetée is the film equivalent of an esolang. < 1255655781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've decided that adobe reader isn't bloated, if by adobe reader you mean acrobat reader 1 on macintosh system 6. < 1255655789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're, like, soulmates, like. < 1255656265 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1255656423 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: :o < 1255656437 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bes your soulmate < 1255658221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.retards.org/projects/grackle68k/ twitter for system 6! < 1255659124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1255659412 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1255659733 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, it's the rarely-seen other third-person singular present form of "to be". < 1255662607 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255662787 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1255665528 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@host86-169-5-246.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255665793 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1255665869 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255666185 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1255666483 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255667158 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1255669799 0 :pingveno!n=quassel@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255675912 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255675917 0 :lifthrasiir!i=tWSFYwwx@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1255676422 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-211-146-170.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255676647 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1255676669 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive learned to play part of philip glass's metamorphosis 1 < 1255676812 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255677128 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: If you've learned part, you've learned the whole thing. < 1255677131 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ba-dum tish* < 1255677162 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor: VERY true < 1255677173 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have to learn how the pieces are put together < 1255677175 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1255677187 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a lot of repetition, but then theres structure to the repetition < 1255677202 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesh. < 1255677217 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :individual musical phrases repeat a lot, but not simply over and over < 1255677234 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eggzactly. It's the complex interweaving of the phrases that makes it ... well, Glass. < 1255677241 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1255677255 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i discovered on my own the very beginning to the star trek theme < 1255677256 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1255677266 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which Star Trek theme? < 1255677269 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOS? < 1255677289 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1255677298 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm going to go discover my bed. < 1255677305 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then sleep in it. < 1255677314 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1255677349 0 :pingveno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255678991 0 :Cerise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1255679973 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255679999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1255680000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1255680350 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1255681500 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1255681614 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1255681630 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@d90-130-4-39.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1255681699 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255682011 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255683572 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255683822 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1255684567 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255684683 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-96-32.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1255688477 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1255691890 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1255692569 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1255694879 0 :ehird!n=ehird@212.183.134.210 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255694940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:13:54 Eggzactly. It's the complex interweaving of the phrases that makes it ... well, Glass. < 1255694946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from where i come from it's the sand that makes it glass. < 1255694978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile: landline GET < 1255695145 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1255695809 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-iapucimqqtkwlopd JOIN :#esoteric < 1255696323 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Page closed" < 1255698202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :begin 644 spongy.com < 1255698202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ML!/-$&@`H`>ZR`/N0N[N[D!U]??C0`'X]W05N7\`*=/C9 < 1255698203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M^]X(@/,"V"'4$V>")!-[!K8L`WQCBW;4!,>V^^/^M]^,#1/7WX9($*SQ5 < 1255698203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F@]T`>PL)]GKJ:\D#<>#K!?[#==A+D\'H`JIA1W6;1>1@_LAUE,,` < 1255698204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1255698204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :end < 1255698204 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1255698208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1255698664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can get BE broadband on 01661833939 < 1255698664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably going to be this fast: < 1255698665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :megs*" < 1255698665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ISP website < 1255698681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going to be (null) megabits fast! < 1255700287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm that's a phone number innit < 1255700295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares < 1255700323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, "833939" is nicely patternonic < 1255700804 0 :MigoMipo!i=54d90139@gateway/web/freenode/x-ffrvygxullxcjgay JOIN :#esoteric < 1255701479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nokia lost 559 M€ following a profit of 1.09 G€. < 1255701481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch. < 1255701496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, I just used SI prefixes on currency. Bite me.) < 1255701812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides that 1440x900 is an okay screenshots res; glanced at some screenshots of that size and you don't seem to be able to fit any less work on the screen at once (obviously there's more raw pixels) < 1255701816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*okay screen res < 1255701873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vertically at least; those 150 pixels don't seem to help much. losing 240 horizontal pixels is a bit of an ouch < 1255702112 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they must not be overly happy with the NSN thing. < 1255702483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gigaeuro" sounds so awesome. < 1255702591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 G¥ ≈ 507 M₨ < 1255702608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One gigayen is almost equal to five hundred and seven megarupees." < 1255704594 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1255705265 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-169-5-246.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255705312 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255705741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ais523. < 1255705749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1255706069 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1255707994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ooh, "833939" is nicely patternonic <-- "patternonic"? < 1255708005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pattonic would be a patt < 1255708008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :work it out yourself < 1255708027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, eh.... "pattonic" or "patternonic"? < 1255708032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please decide on a spelling first < 1255708040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fail at reading comprehension kthxbai < 1255708066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitions of patt on the Web: < 1255708066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * The Trentino Tyrolean Autonomist Party (Partito Autonomista Trentino Tirolese, PATT) is a regionalist christian-democratic Italian political party based in Trentino. < 1255708066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PATT < 1255708066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * Yale Nance Patt is an American professor of electrical and computer engineering at The University of Texas at Austin. ... < 1255708067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patt < 1255708074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1255708080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you continue to fail to stop failing < 1255708084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is related to patterns in some way though < 1255708086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is all I can said < 1255708092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say* < 1255708234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: has anything happened in agora since "OFF: [IADoP] Interstellar Manifest", 12 october? < 1255708236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything noteworthy that is < 1255708260 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks < 1255708271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of messages that i haven't read < 1255708285 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loads of NoVs against BobTHJ, most of which were invalid due to typos < 1255708303 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and loads of other general judicial stuff < 1255708308 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a large proposal distribution < 1255708316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph, have they still not got those novs done? < 1255708326 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's felt strongly judicial, though < 1255708330 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lot happening except in the courts < 1255708341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i should have no problem marking all as read. < 1255708368 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably want to vote on the proposal distribution < 1255708382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't done that in a while < 1255708459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, can i take this opportunity to say that macintosh system 6 was cool? < 1255708463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you. < 1255709144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, indeed it was < 1255709160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even acrobat reader 1 was cool on system 6. < 1255709167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flies even emulating at 1x speed < 1255709175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly with a faster drive backing it) < 1255709198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh what emulator? < 1255709208 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where did you get the system image from < 1255709212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mini vMac. It has no networking, though, and Basilisk II won't accept the ROM. :( < 1255709216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Illegally. < 1255709234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Mini vMac build emulates a Macintosh Plus with 4 MiB of RAM. < 1255709247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:jPO_WD1H2kYJ:rolli.ch/MacPlus/+mac+plus+rom&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=safari has the link to the ROM.) < 1255709261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and Mini vMac doesn't support colour. < 1255709266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or resolutions other than the tiny one on actual Macs. < 1255709284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's good for nostalgia, but you can't go "wow, this thing was really powerful and snappy". < 1255709296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any nostal to gia, but it's fun nonetheless. < 1255709298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1255709313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and getting files onto it is a pain; iirc OS X can read and write HFS, but I haven't tried it (not sure how to go about making a disk image). < 1255709366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: If you do want to play around with it: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html < 1255709376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very useful resource, including a whole shitload of software. < 1255709417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/screens/Swedish.gif Mönster?! What monster? < 1255709460 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@82.66.176.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255709626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those stinking hobbitses at System 7 Today are so evil! < 1255709639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MASTERS OF BLOAT AND DESTRUCTION RAAAAAAAARGH < 1255710319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you won't believe this - Macintosh System Software 1.1 can run at 800x600 < 1255710349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the OS for a machine that only had one single hardware differentiation: 128 or 512 kibibytes of RAM < 1255710358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it runs at 800x600 without a hitch < 1255710510 0 :boily!n=boily@132.203.169.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255710511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs MacPaint too. < 1255710513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi boily < 1255710571 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello! < 1255710587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION boils boily < 1255710624 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... jacuzzi... < 1255710632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wolfram the least number not nameable in less than eleven words < 1255710652 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$Failed \ \ < 1255710671 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this is creepy < 1255710674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1255710684 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the computer here that's having all sorts of problems is now turning on every now and hten < 1255710687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for about a second < 1255710688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1255710689 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then turning back off again < 1255710713 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's intermittently booting to a blank screen with a mouse pointer in Win7) < 1255710726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, it crashes whenever the screensaver would turn on, even though the screensaver is turned off) < 1255710760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and by crashes, I mean spins the fan at full speed for about a minute with a blank screen, then turns off) < 1255710849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION drags a floppy into another floppy to see what'd happeen < 1255710854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nothing, silent failure) < 1255710986 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1255711274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm ever so slightly tempted to acquire the highest-spec mac that can run System 6 (w/ colour display), trick it out with the most-addressable 8MiB of RAM, the most-addressable 2GiB disk, and a broadband connection, just so I can go on IRC and have an honest version string saying "WhateverIRC - Macintosh System 6.0.8, 8192 KB" < 1255711338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's even some progress on a System 6 web browser... (although a few already exist)) < 1255711628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIfx seems to be the fastest 6-faring machine. < 1255711661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supported up to 128MiB of RAM, which is rather pointless when you can only address 8. < 1255711675 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh, my computer just spun up its fan again < 1255711676 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's off! < 1255711688 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, the power light isn't on, nor are any of the others < 1255711692 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there's a red LED inside it that's lit < 1255711774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the IIci was the second-fastest. < 1255711804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IIci will probably be a *lot* easier to acquire, as the IIfx cost from $9,000 to $12,000 — in 1990-1992 dollars. < 1255711821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus a lot of the additional features required special software support to take advantage of them. < 1255711837 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1255711926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, 40 MHz instead of 25... those fancy ASICs and coprocessors... an FPU... higher speed RAM with simultaneous read and write... < 1255711955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is rather tempting. But the IIci is really common and the IIfx isn't, so. < 1255712006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: have you considered that it may be a ghost < 1255712060 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255712099 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have found this error message occuring in a Microsoft product: "rDrebTenrsr nc RRdnrTSb SncrrebdRRdncsretrepscdogtia inte F t" < 1255712114 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite an error message < 1255712155 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To reproduce: Type in (using newlines in place of \): TYPE A\A AS INTEGER\END TYPE\DIM B.B AS A < 1255712157 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the desktop here is turning itself on for about a second every now and then for no obvious reason < 1255712160 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then push F5 < 1255712165 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in which program? < 1255712167 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it will appear this message. < 1255712177 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QuickBasic Extended < 1255712186 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that isn't a corrupted copy? < 1255712198 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks a bit like corruption, although not that much < 1255712200 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's all letters < 1255712203 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and spaces < 1255712206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like interleaving messages. < 1255712322 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1255712431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1255712443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: you won't believe this - Macintosh System Software 1.1 can run at 800x600 <-- why wouldn't I believe it? < 1255712465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it was 1984, and macintoshes only ran at one resolution for many, many years after that? < 1255712471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :800x600 was a pretty large screen res back then < 1255712477 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1984 is before I was born < 1255712480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/screens/Swedish.gif Mönster?! What monster? < 1255712482 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err no < 1255712486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mönster == pattern < 1255712487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: more to the point, you couldn't plug an external monitor into macs for ages < 1255712489 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 640x480 with as many as 16 colours was good when I was young < 1255712492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's a joke. hah a. < 1255712494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ha ha < 1255712497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh ok < 1255712498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know < 1255712505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I can't see anything funny in it < 1255712518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so it's shocking that the second release (almost identical to system 1) supported 800x600 < 1255712540 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :futureproofing, I suppose < 1255712547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it was, like, 1990 when the first mac went on sale that let you plug in your own monitor, thus ending the era of 512x342 < 1255712568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but the macs that let you plug in your own monitor don't support system software 1.1! :-P < 1255712571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :512x342 <-- heh < 1255712583 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the computer just turned on again < 1255712587 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a pattern here? < 1255712588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :512x342 is a pretty good resolution < 1255712589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, maybe they planned that feature earlier on? < 1255712595 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should record it in IRC so I can look back at the timestamps later < 1255712604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm about 90% sure they didn't < 1255712614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, obviously the emulator has to do hackery to get it to run < 1255712617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I doubt they coded actual support for it < 1255712621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, can't it go above 800x600? < 1255712625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the fact that they didn't hardcode it and make it break is amazing < 1255712633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Basilisk II can, but I don't think it supports system 1 < 1255712636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vMac can't < 1255712640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least with the gui < 1255712640 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1255712650 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't very often I found some guy who knows how to program in Forth, but yesterday I met a retired computer sciences teacher and I asked him if he knew Forth, and he does < 1255712681 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, about basilisk II... getting a rom from a newworld doesn't work sadly. < 1255712690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what with openfirmware instead < 1255712706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piracy. It's easy to get a Quadra rom; they're all over the plalce. < 1255712708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*place < 1255712712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1255712733 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, where is the guy who wrote rawirc.c < 1255712754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, people who bought the (roughly $5k in today's dollars) original Macintosh were totally fucked by Apple: three years later, 3.2 was released, which didn't support it. < 1255712755 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the harddrive in that old mac is so fscking loud that I hate to turn it on when I become nostalgic < 1255712774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the same year as the original one the came out the 512K one did too...) < 1255712785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Just use a floppy-based system < 1255712791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, eh? < 1255712800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, usb floppy drive? < 1255712802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an *ibook* < 1255712806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install the OS to a floppy, boot from it, install other programs onto other floppies < 1255712806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1255712807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame < 1255712815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iBooks can't even run system 6! < 1255712820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT USE ARE THEY < 1255712821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and it runs OS 9 in fact. < 1255712834 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, while snappy, isn't very stable < 1255712844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS 9 is not snappy compared to OS 8 < 1255712851 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, on that hardware it is < 1255712859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an emulator I bet it wouldn't be < 1255712862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not snappy compared to 7, which is REALLY not snappy compared to 6 < 1255712869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but 6 is about the speed of the others. < 1255712886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: probably they optimised 9 for the iBook. < 1255712902 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually, imacs came with it too < 1255712907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrt noise, the original Macintosh was cool; only moving part was the floppy drive < 1255712910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and... running MS DOS 6.2 on a modern computer would be incredibly snappy too < 1255712916 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255712928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The iBook shipped with 8.5, I belieeive. < 1255712928 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-126-1.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255712929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*believe < 1255712943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, but 8 can do all that 9 can. < 1255712959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 7 can do just about all that 8 can apart from web browsing well (IE 4 / NN 4 max). < 1255712961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes it did, but I got some "you got this so late that we will offer free upgrade to OS 9" kind of thing < 1255712968 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, a week before OS 9 release or something < 1255712970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot the details < 1255712971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 6 can do all the bits of 7 that matter. < 1255712984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And -1 can liberate you from the anti-zen of computers! < 1255712993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1255713035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pre-6 had no multitasking, though/ < 1255713038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though. < 1255713043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in 6 you had to change a setting to get multitasking. < 1255713061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Set it to start up with Multifinder instead of Finder.) < 1255713071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't macs support networking booting? Possibly some custom protocol < 1255713081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pretty certain I seen an option on the ibook for that somewhere < 1255713092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to boot from an appleshare server or something < 1255713113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1255713115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1255713115 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly one could use this to get around the disk noise issue. < 1255713133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just plug in a USB stick? < 1255713138 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i declare today's mezzacotta comic sufficiently insane < 1255713140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it can't boot from that. I tried. < 1255713141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly I'm not sure it could boot from that, but worth a try. < 1255713143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1255713153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes it could, via a system extension. < 1255713154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:) < 1255713164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh? < 1255713175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hm, don't read that one. < 1255713180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. They run within MacOS, so just use the USB routines, set it up, and boot. < 1255713198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this feels like loadlin somehow < 1255713218 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255713219 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the autogenerated one. mostly crap. today it felt even a bit more surreal than usual. < 1255713225 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1255713237 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read mezzacotta for ages < 1255713245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's the autogenerated one. mostly crap. today it felt even a bit more surreal than usual. <-- the I know about the first two statements... < 1255713331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should do an archive binge of mezzacotta < 1255713332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL OF IT < 1255713386 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't generated a hall of fame comic for weeks, but that's mainly because there aren't 50 voting readers any more, i think < 1255713571 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer just spun up again < 1255713707 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think it had the fatal flaw (apart from being 99% crap) that it needed many voters to get anything interesting up, and once it fell below a threshold (happened about new year i think) it was doomed to a slow death < 1255713736 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: agreed < 1255713764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should discontinue the comic and just do the other fun stuff < 1255713790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep the hall of fame ones though < 1255713811 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck DMM essentially keeps complaining he doesn't have time for what they have < 1255713816 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the hall-of-fames were pretty rubbish, too < 1255713848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1255713851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just nuke the whole thing then < 1255713877 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of them aren't funny, just metahumorous < 1255713893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, after you archive the whole current history that is < 1255713911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; over 99% of that is crap, and there are hundreds of trillions of comics. < 1255713920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not actually, you know, stored on disk, anyway. < 1255713935 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I was wondering if only comics that had ever been seen stayed the same < 1255713939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm absolutely sure about the over 99% thing) < 1255713949 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that new comics can be added in the entries that have never been seen < 1255713954 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as in the daily updates < 1255713971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am almost totally sure that they just use the date as a random seed. < 1255713976 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i have had a feeling that new characters appear sometimes... < 1255713996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Almost certainly conditioned for >day_we_introduced < 1255713996 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, but they cache those that have been visited < 1255714009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them? < 1255714018 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not too hard < 1255714024 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, it's not like they're storing images < 1255714028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just a few lines of SVG < 1255714038 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, they might even just store the generation algo + seed < 1255714085 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: erm that wouldn't give any speedup, which is why they started caching < 1255714098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the caching would be so you could write new comics < 1255714105 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the gaps between the ones which people had looked at < 1255714113 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say if you have a new character, or an improved generation algo < 1255714126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I highly doubt that happens < 1255714143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly sure they'll only ever make future comics change < 1255714163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then the new characters would take months to show up < 1255714166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody would be looking < 1255714172 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, people mostly only look at the past ones anyway < 1255714230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it'd mean that some characters around read areas would be mysteriously rare. < 1255714233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And mysteriously common in other places. < 1255714235 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot look at future ones < 1255714238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, "cache". < 1255714241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: exactly < 1255714490 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer turned on again < 1255714545 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:34, 17:19, 17:03, 16:49 < 1255714550 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be about once every 15 minutes < 1255714827 0 :fax!n=somebody@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1255715118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : They're not actually, you know, stored on disk, anyway. <-- yeah, I was, you know, joking < 1255715141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, well, it wasn't funny. At least mönster was a pun < 1255715144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/./ < 1255715230 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, which one turned on? < 1255715246 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the desktop here in my office < 1255715257 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm writing on my laptop < 1255715259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, puns are no more inherently funny than other jokes < 1255715265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523,unplug the power coord < 1255715271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you continue your failure of reading comprehension < 1255715273 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@AAnnecy-751-1-18-18.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1255715287 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no, you were vague then < 1255715292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incorrect. < 1255715300 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is mezzacotta excluded in robots.txt? < 1255715306 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it stay there as a trap for spiders? < 1255715309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so vague I have no clue what you think I misread. < 1255715322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee ISPs < 1255715324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, iirc archive is blocked < 1255715330 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, http://mezzacotta.net/robots.txt is boring < 1255715344 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :et mönster i fönstret < 1255715365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes the raindrops do make a pretty pattern on the window < 1255715365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee ISPs. < 1255715385 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, against the far away street light < 1255715426 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pitter-patter pattern < 1255715866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, eh? < 1255716082 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a rainy rhyme < 1255716120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if ehird ever watches the BBC Proms < 1255716139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders to what that is apropos. < 1255716151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, out of the blue < 1255716157 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION used to watch the proms when he watched tv < 1255716164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sentient colour technology! < 1255716216 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I wished it wasn't such a short cut version sent on Swedish television... :( It reminds me of "highlights of hamlet" ;P < 1255716228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the answer is no. < 1255716236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why? < 1255716244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I...just don't. < 1255716293 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was just the last night back then, wp tells me it's actually really 8 weeks of concerts < 1255716295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? I thought you would at least like the last night of the proms... Even if not the other proms < 1255716328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, wait what, you didn't know? < 1255716340 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all it is called "last night of the proms" the one commonly broadcast outside UK < 1255716341 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely knew < 1255716342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I've never seen it, so I wouldn't know. < 1255716355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how very un-English :P < 1255716355 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not how much the rest was, though < 1255716357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never really watched much TV. < 1255716359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders about ais523  < 1255716364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes! I don't even like crumpets. < 1255716401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, iirc they come in many variations? < 1255716411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crumpet generally refers to one thing. < 1255716418 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's like how people never visit the tourist attractions of their own city < 1255716421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to one thing < 1255716435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well the one I have seen I quite liked. Was years ago though. < 1255716440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be honest Britain doesn't really have any culture these days. < 1255716458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hm. You are saying that is all it is? < 1255716476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All what is? < 1255716476 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ho-hum; I wrote (well, wrote a Perl script which wrote) http://zem.fi/rfk86/ with the Unicode line-drawing characters, and it looked just right at work; but on this OS X system, the layout's gone all wonky, since "monospace" doesn't really seem to mean monospace here. < 1255716490 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: heck if i know < 1255716496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "monospace" doesn't mean monospaced on Linux, either. < 1255716506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the most common characters are monospaced. < 1255716508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes not. < 1255716513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less ccommon ones rarely are. < 1255716518 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ccccccccccccccccccccccc < 1255716522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: May I suggest using Monaco on OS X? < 1255716529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might have the right characters. < 1255716545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For extra points, 10pt Monaco; lovely crisp unantialiased funtime. < 1255716547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: wut < 1255716553 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ccccccccccccccccccccccommon < 1255716559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1255716565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Still using that Zero? :P < 1255716586 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You already asked me about the browns, didn't you :-P < 1255716592 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. no, I'm on the browns. < 1255716595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/rfk86/screens.html looks wonky, also. < 1255716600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ha ha joke funny laugh get it? < 1255716615 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1255716623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You stuttered keys. < 1255716624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha ha funny. < 1255716635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: btw the "a" in that font is supremely uglies! < 1255716638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: "monospace" doesn't mean monospaced on Linux, either. <-- it looks right to me though < 1255716647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lucky you. < 1255716653 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were just trying to say that I can't complain because my Zero sucks more :-P < 1255716661 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh desktop computer stop that! < 1255716665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is tempted to disconnect the power < 1255716667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why the pulsing edge (well, static) < 1255716692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1255716692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, the horizontal lines are brighter at regular intervals < 1255716693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Just ask majestouch; the Zeros are flawless! < 1255716693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :╚═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ < 1255716693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1255716695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I think spacing fail < 1255716696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your antialiasing sucks. < 1255716703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no fail by fizzie. < 1255716705 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe it is trying to send some spam ;D < 1255716717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, font fail possibly. < 1255716719 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks right to me on the Ubuntu at work, and on this Debian at home; but it doesn't seem very robust. I guess I should just do a similar-looking thing with CSS boxery. < 1255716722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or AA setting issue < 1255716731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Monaco 10pt! Monaco 10pt! < 1255716734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR I'LL BREAK YOUR JOINT < 1255716735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, more boring though < 1255716736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monaco 10pt! < 1255716744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It rhymes, it must be true. < 1255716744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, only macs have that... < 1255716746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so useless < 1255716760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it looks fine on common X11s. < 1255716765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And who cares about Windows? < 1255716771 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well that last is true < 1255716772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, ON OS X, MONACO 10pt! Joint! Point! Thing. < 1255716781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how can it look good on Linux? < 1255716785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they lack it < 1255716791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monaco, whateverthereisno < 1255716793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/w/ < 1255716805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitstream Vera Sans Mono < 1255716810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Display is fixed on OS X, continues to look fine on Linux unless you have crappy antialiasing in which case meh to you. < 1255716810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Dejvavu < 1255716810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1255716814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use DejaVu of course. < 1255716831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.6's default monospaced font, Menlo, is a modified DejaVu Sans Mono... < 1255716873 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255716890 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dejavu Sans Mono, fall back on Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, fall back on Monaco? < 1255716897 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then on monospace I guess < 1255716963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1255716966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macs often have DejaVu. < 1255716970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put Monaco first. < 1255716978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1255716993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may need some hackery to do 10pt only on Macs, but the whole reason to use Monaco is because 10pt is unantialiased and all retro-like. < 1255717077 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why would 10 pt be non-antialiased? < 1255717120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Monaco goes way back to the first version of OS X, so it was a hand-drawn bitmap. < 1255717122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1255717125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First version of MacOS. < 1255717130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, it was in System Software 1. < 1255717144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, larger sizes are vector. < 1255717147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outline. Whatever. < 1255717180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1255717200 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why not create bitmap ones for larger ones too? < 1255717229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because OS X's text rendering looks nice. < 1255717233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitmaps would be uglier. < 1255717245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10pt is a good size for Monaco to be crisp, though. < 1255717248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why the Asm() stuff? < 1255717254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why not as an application? < 1255717258 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the 86 had those < 1255717381 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It doesn't -- or if it does, it's not officially supported; they might've released some TI-made statistics tools in a special format. You could do a TI-BASIC start-up wrapper, but delivering "raw" assembly programs is the standard way on the 86. < 1255717410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, does it have that "apps" button? < 1255717449 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I'm not sure what it should do, either. < 1255717461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1255717467 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programs are just program-type variables; there's a "PRGM" button to show a list of them. < 1255717468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, TI-83+ specific then I guess < 1255717478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or TI-83 and TI-84 I guess < 1255717493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, basically they are stored in flash I think < 1255717497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are kind of more app like < 1255717500 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255717508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure of the details < 1255717524 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, the TI-86 doesn't have the Flash memory. (And neither does the TI-83.) < 1255717528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1255717556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you can't usually access most data directly from the flash on TI-83+ < 1255717566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, you have to move it to ram first < 1255717568 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a meny < 1255717570 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :menu* < 1255717574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this includes programs < 1255717576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not applications < 1255717613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, so in practise you tend to leave most stuff in the battery backed ram < 1255717709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3x4 "v" is hard to distinguish from "u"... < 1255717754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, give the u a tail. < 1255717832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w was hard... < 1255717866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how do you make it possible to distinguish U from ∐ and ∪? < 1255717867 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose they've made a widespread font-embedding standard? I could use that 4x6 font I use in the actual game for the website. (Quick wikipediaing -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Font_embedding_on_the_Web#Web_fonts -- doesn't look very promising.) < 1255717869 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs < 1255717878 0 :impomatic!n=John@217.171.129.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255717881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: They're working on it now with @font-face. < 1255717887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use and alt text < 1255717891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who cares if it's a pain! < 1255717894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually < 1255717900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write some javascript to replace each char with an image < 1255717902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an alt < 1255717915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way it will look okay on non-imaging browsers. < 1255717919 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to do? < 1255717920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think lynx does [alt text] instead of just alt text. < 1255717924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : write some javascript to replace each char with an image <-- this sounds strangely familiar < 1255717932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: [18:31] fizzie: I don't suppose they've made a widespread font-embedding standard? I could use that 4x6 font I use in the actual game for the website. (Quick wikipediaing -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Font_embedding_on_the_Web#Web_fonts -- doesn't look very promising.) < 1255717942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: sIFR does it with a string of text and Flash, but you only use it for titles and stuff. < 1255717955 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... I'm sure I've seen something in Flash that does that. < 1255717960 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wasn't it scaled to 80% or some other sort of crap < 1255717970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Ehm? < 1255717979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I misremember < 1255718063 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to write a JavaScript for context highlighting code at some point < 1255718067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee, lowercase letters done. < 1255718073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly they'll be as high as the uppercase ones, but who cares? < 1255718101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3x4 IS SO readable, naysayers! < 1255718117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, any sample? < 1255718119 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still not counting that as 3x4 if you use spacing between. < 1255718136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But that's the standard, dude... < 1255718137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance < 1255718138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3x3 < 1255718145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each letter is 3x3, and you put a one pixel space after each letter < 1255718154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 3x3, Wikipedia says so, end of, it's valid. < 1255718173 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, like you can always trust wikipedia :P < 1255718185 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the standard I use; from where I come from, a 8x16 font has 8 pixels horizontally, 16 vertically, and you stack them without any silly gaps. < 1255718189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is the only person I've ever see claim otherwise as far as metrics go. < 1255718212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's kinda silly to call a column part of the glyph if it always has NO PIXELS SET. < 1255718219 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just consult the file names of your /usr/share/consolefonts/ < 1255718244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: /usr/share/consolefonts/: No such file or directory < 1255718244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I win! < 1255718302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, B is quite tricky. < 1255718311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there we go. < 1255718414 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anyway, it's not like you can do line-drawing characters at all if you always add gaps between the character cells. < 1255718442 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But don't worry, I'll just mentally substitute 4x5 whenever you say 3x4. < 1255718442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1255718458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah indeed < 1255718466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem, fizzie, is that your definition is really stupid. < 1255718481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plot 3x4 pixels, and that is a glyph. If you rendered that glyph, that is how many pixels you would use. < 1255718490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you add spacing to use it in text— like *every* font. < 1255718495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how will you draw the line drawing chars then? < 1255718510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that question is very valid < 1255718525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm skeptical that you even know what that means. It sounds like you're specifically parroting fizzie. < 1255718528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the answer is you don't. And? < 1255718540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance < 1255718546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um what? I can see the issue with those, since they have to fit together < 1255718549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/rfk86/screens.html < 1255718551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in ncurses dialogs < 1255718553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's take a look shall we < 1255718555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, gasp! < 1255718557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blank pixels! < 1255718560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After every character! < 1255718566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No line drawing possible! < 1255718579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, are those part of the char or not? < 1255718584 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? That's a 4x6 font. It's perfectly possible to add line-drawing characters there. < 1255718584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1255718598 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The blank pixels are part of the character bitmaps. < 1255718606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed what I suspected < 1255718620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's a really uber-retarded definition, and I'm not going to entertain it. Feel free to mentally substitute. < 1255718645 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, in some cases I've used the blank pixels between lines as non-blanks; that causes the Y and y to blend together a bit, but that's just a minor issue. < 1255718673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :╳ ╳ ╳ < 1255718674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ╳ ╳ ╳ < 1255718676 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :╳ ╳ ╳ < 1255718692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that will only line up if mono-spaced < 1255718699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesn't for you: sucks to be you < 1255718723 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I didn't expect /you/ to say "sucks to be you" < 1255718726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more an ehirdy thing to say < 1255718765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh? hm maybe < 1255718769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: AnMaster tends to optimise for the most ehird-hostile, with oft pathetic results. < 1255718780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, this font should be semi-readable WITHOUT the gaps. < 1255718845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can find a non-last night of the proms recording of Henry Wood's famous Fantasia on British Sea Songs anywhere... < 1255718871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, the last night of the proms one is usually a bit... non-conventional < 1255718890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my, v vs V is going to be difficult. < 1255718923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solved. < 1255718952 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you never answered to if you watch the proms or not did you? (did I even ask?) < 1255718960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, normally < 1255718964 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you didn't ask < 1255718965 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the only definition that makes sense to me; for a NxM font, that's the amount of pixels you have available for a single character; you can do tradeoffs when it comes to spacing between characters if you want. I'm going to have to go and call your definition of "uber-retarded" uber-retarded. (Besides, everywhere where I see pixel sizes for fonts that's the definition they use. The Windows command prompt window font size selector, S60putty font-select-o-t < 1255718965 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ron, those "miscellaneous" X11 bitmap font names (5x7 and so on), etc. But I guess it doesn't make sense to continue this thread of discussion.) < 1255718965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1255718973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, only thought it then I guess < 1255718983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which yeah, doesn't work < 1255719000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, my "z" shows a nice imagined curve. < 1255719033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think I'm using typography terminology and you're using character-blitting-esque terminology, is the issue. < 1255719052 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that sounds likely; I don't dabble with typography, I just blit pixels. < 1255719052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font certainly has an x-height of 4 (and, um, an everything-height of 4). < 1255719067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, upper and lowercase done; now for numbers. < 1255719072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I should have uppercase numbers! < 1255719077 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in bitmap computer fonts fizzie's definition is certainly a lot more common < 1255719103 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Maybe you've just been hanging around computer folks and not typography folks too. < 1255719110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gasp. < 1255719119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, probably. < 1255719184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh; designing an 0 distinguishable from both o and O is hard when you can't slash it. < 1255719202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll use the trick I used with N to optical-illusionify a slash. < 1255719204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's no room? < 1255719208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1255719215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wow, optical-illusionify is accepted by OS X's spellchecker.) < 1255719234 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaanyway; I had the following train of thought: "I could put all the text data into an image to get those pixel fonts; but then it's not copy-pasteable and accessible and all. Hey, I know: I'll use the Unicode block-drawing characters to put 2x2 pixels inside each character cell, those at least are bound to be monospaced enough. Then it's all text, not image, and you can... uh... copy-paste the pixels... and, err... have a screen reader read out the blocks a < 1255719234 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nd, uh... maybe this wasn't such a good idea after all?" < 1255719253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I can't seem to apply the trick. < 1255719268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we're going to have to make an ASCII art font, now < 1255719270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :D < 1255719312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stops laughing IRL at fizzie's comment < 1255719318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to sue you for hurting my chest < 1255719516 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Page closed" < 1255719545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drawing lowercase and uppercase numbers is fun. < 1255719662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear; my uppercase 2 = my uppercase Z. < 1255719669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed. < 1255719763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I just have to distinguish my uppercase and lowercase 5s and I've done the numbers. < 1255719938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1255719963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both of my 8s probably need refining; they're hard to distinguish. < 1255719968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'll do symbols first. < 1255719984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm very pleased with how I handled lowercase e. < 1255720036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, poll! Should I do bold and italics? Please say no. < 1255720060 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just do them with colours < 1255720064 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get yourself subpixel bold < 1255720071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1255720075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colours aren't allowed :P < 1255720077 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise, subpixel italics (that would probably be easier0 < 1255720079 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*) < 1255720084 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do it algorithmically < 1255720115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shush, you. :P < 1255720135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, my lowercase and uppercase bold aren't just descends/letter-height! < 1255720141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1255720142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numbers, not bold. < 1255720160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, "lowercase number" generally means descending, whereas "uppercase number"'s bottom is the same as that of a letter.) < 1255720181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine're actually numbers tweaked to look like they're extensions of the lowercase, and uppercase, alphabet. < 1255720205 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255720350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Should I do lowercase and uppercase punctuation? (NO) < 1255720358 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense < 1255720528 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all-caps periods < 1255720536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Nor do lowercase and uppercase numerals. < 1255720546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is "these characters look like they belong to the letters of that case in the same font". < 1255720554 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use those to separate thousands... < 1255720582 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uppercase hyphen = en dash < 1255720603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, I can't do curly quotes :D < 1255720623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, single quotes sure < 1255720626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double quotes, nuh uh < 1255720637 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1255720640 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * < 1255720641 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1255720642 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * < 1255720656 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1255720689 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* * < 1255720691 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * * < 1255720707 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: 3x4 < 1255720725 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did he switch from 4x3? < 1255720733 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1255720735 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's been 3x4 the whole time. < 1255720741 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, no. < 1255720741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong. < 1255720746 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i assume the vertical is longest, anyway < 1255720749 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, 4x3, the funky. < 1255720753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started doing 4x3 but gave up because it's impossible, at least roman. < 1255720757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Italics may be possible in 4x3. < 1255720768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3x4 is criminally easy compared to 4x3. < 1255720783 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does m look in 3x4 < 1255720823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m or M? < 1255720828 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either < 1255720839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m is: < 1255720843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1255720844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255720845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255720845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255720855 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1255720861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works, trust me. < 1255720870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M is: < 1255720871 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever you say < 1255720872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255720873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255720873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255720875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1255720876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255720877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255720878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255720879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255720882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also works, although less so. < 1255720888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: N is a fun one, though. < 1255720890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1255720892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255720893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255720893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255720897 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would making the next-to-last line # # be better? < 1255720903 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that A < 1255720907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lack of a pixel in the top-right gives the illusion of a slant. < 1255720911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: In which? < 1255720913 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, A is probably different < 1255720916 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In M < 1255720933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly. < 1255720947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it looks too much like a stapler-style N with a too-thick line. < 1255720949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me test. < 1255720952 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "m" and "n" are < 1255720954 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :## < 1255720954 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255720954 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255720954 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255720954 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1255720956 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :## < 1255720958 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255720960 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255720961 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255720963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ah, that's probably better. < 1255721080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I pulled off $ quite well... < 1255721114 0 :Guest76637!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've not been reading, but - are you working with square pixels? < 1255721115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering the constraints. < 1255721125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this font, yes. < 1255721135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes things harder for such a small size... < 1255721200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My s and S-based $ both look equally bad... < 1255721261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the s-based one gets it better. < 1255721321 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My 3x6 $ is a really silly one (mostly the font is 3x5, but $ is so rare I used the normally empty line too), though it doesn't look that bad in context: < 1255721321 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255721322 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## < 1255721322 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1255721322 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255721323 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :## < 1255721325 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255721376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh boy, % is gonna be fun. < 1255721557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, this makes quite a passable $: < 1255721558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255721559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255721560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## < 1255721561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255721562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255721566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1255721570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's 5 lines high.! < 1255721572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*drop that . < 1255721581 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@82.66.176.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255721611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's your %? < 1255721625 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is addicted to Tremulous < 1255721659 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's the size of an uppercase 3x5 character, so it's the obviousish < 1255721661 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255721661 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255721661 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255721661 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1255721662 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255721666 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't really work in your case. < 1255721702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use < 1255721704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255721705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255721706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :## < 1255721707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255721709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1255721713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255721714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## < 1255721715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1255721716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255721722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Derived from yours. < 1255721724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both look stupid :D < 1255721754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...butu zoomed out, the latter seems to be not entirely dissimilar to %. < 1255721800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think I'll go for the former. < 1255721819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! < 1255721821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: < 1255721822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255721823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## < 1255721823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :## < 1255721824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255721875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, & < 1255721881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll try something with "et" < 1255721911 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My & isn't very great (and of course too big for you): < 1255721914 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255721914 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1255721914 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255721914 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255721914 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## < 1255721938 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... uh, stylished. < 1255721972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks quite good. < 1255722017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Anyway, my final & will be more stylised by far... < 1255722048 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With less pixels comes.. great responsibility? I don't think that's quite the quote. < 1255722052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently have a 5x4 & looking sort-of-okay. < 1255722059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, more like a hybridised et. < 1255722167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome, just need to lob off one more column and it'll fit. < 1255722185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...aaand I end up with "e". < 1255722188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's... tweak that. < 1255722215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. < 1255722217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What character is this? < 1255722218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255722219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255722219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :## < 1255722220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## < 1255722240 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very good at these image puzzles. Is it a dog? < 1255722248 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1255722253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a cat getting mauled by a character that pretends to be an ampersand. < 1255722260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The cat, and the mauling, are off-screen.) < 1255722283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha oh man I am so adding a Moof character < 1255722295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clarus! < 1255722321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah, not happening. < 1255722369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, decision time: < 1255722373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255722374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :## < 1255722375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255722376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## < 1255722377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1255722380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255722381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :### < 1255722382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :## < 1255722383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## < 1255722386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which should be the ampersand? < 1255722416 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At this zoom level I prefer the former although neither look anything at all like & < 1255722432 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say the first < 1255722544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first looks more like a smudge at 100%, fwiw < 1255722552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas the latter looks... uh, more like the cent sign than anything. < 1255722578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahahahahaha, asterisk < 1255722581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fuck me. < 1255722589 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: but you're underage! < 1255722590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Sorry to ask, but, uhh, what's your asterisk. < 1255722597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :| < 1255722604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in the Vatican City! < 1255722609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(popemobile)→ < 1255722649 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255722650 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1255722651 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# # < 1255722662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That, um, that's an x. < 1255722667 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your lowercase x? :-) < 1255722670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a multiplication symbol if anything. < 1255722679 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, the positioning (upper three lines) makes it an asterisk. :p < 1255722694 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And moving it down by one line makes it an x? < 1255722701 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, fizzie's drawing's pixel-identical to the asterisk in MS Sans Serif, at some small font size < 1255722706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, his x has a double line at the bottom < 1255722708 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Moving it down by one line and adding another # # at the bottom. < 1255722710 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1255722712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1255722714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a fontstalker. < 1255722716 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1255722727 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And adding a # # at the top of the lowercase x makes an X. < 1255722790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how to indicate lowercase/uppercase numbers in the input stream. < 1255722853 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were no asterisksks in the rfk messages, so it's not in that font file. But http://zem.fi/~fis/font00l.png and http://zem.fi/~fis/font00h.png make up the whole ISO-8859-1 set; those have been scaled by 200%, and there's some extra whitespace, and the "high-ascii" characters are really bad, but... < 1255722908 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a third plane for the U+2500 .. U+257f line-drawing characters, but it's far less interesting. < 1255722923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha ha ha, angle brackets. < 1255722924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my life. < 1255722951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I should probably rearrange mine in ascii order sometime. < 1255722967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll just use the last ascii chars for the uppercase numbers. < 1255722974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, I have no chance of doing accents. < 1255722984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, that ü makes a wonderful :). < 1255722996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that ö makes a wonderful :o. < 1255723006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that etc. < 1255723013 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ì í makes an angry face :( < 1255723022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1255723052 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The symmetric :) is probably Ü -- the actual ü is a bit lopsided. Unless you prefer that, of course. < 1255723059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: last row, third and forth < 1255723061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil! < 1255723069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then... uh... either male or fefmale, I forget. < 1255723074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It looks cuter that way. < 1255723076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just look at it! < 1255723100 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's evil-and-female triplet is òóô, I think. Not very like it. < 1255723114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's? < 1255723134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Drop the middle pixel of the ^ thing in ^o < 1255723135 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was originally "that's ô", then I went and edited it. < 1255723160 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably should. It just looks so 8-like then. < 1255723180 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, who needs accents anyway. < 1255723269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh, @. < 1255723384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1255723384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is impossible. < 1255723402 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, just leave out the a in the middle < 1255723404 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and draw the outer loop < 1255723448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that results in a character almost identical to my e. :P < 1255723473 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255723610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1255723613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is hard < 1255723644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. < 1255723646 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once tried to do a font for the characters in 7-bit ASCII on 7-segment displays < 1255723648 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in my head < 1255723655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it. < 1255723658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh < 1255723862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no. < 1255723862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| < 1255724021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I have no idea how to do either | nor ~. < 1255724045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Maybe* I could do | by omitting the top and bottom pixels, like a reversal of the usual |. < 1255724058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or by omitting just the top one. Hey, that could work. < 1255724059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ~... < 1255724133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there we go. < 1255724202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Printable ASCII sans the space plus ten extra digits fits perfectly into a 26x4 block. Who knew? < 1255724237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have an opinion on whether I should keep orditch the lower/uppercase digits? < 1255724333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: FWIW, just tested "And how!" without spacing; looks perfectly fine < 1255724799 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few 8 bit computers didn't support lower case. < 1255724964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*or ditch < 1255724971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Not just lower/uppercase. < 1255724973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lower/uppercase DIGITS. < 1255725203 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR YOUR 1337 NEEDS < 1255725649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pah. < 1255725781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1255725791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's rather hard to distinguish the upper and lower case... < 1255725801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: challenge me to do the lowercases as 3x3. < 1255725833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, and ascenders/descenders < 1255726232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, naw. < 1255726236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do the fancy e that way. < 1255726253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't want to give capitals another row... that'd make it 4x4, which is BOOOOOOORING < 1255727825 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it 1x1 < 1255728025 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Why is | tricky? < 1255728046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mornin' < 1255728053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: because my I has no stupid serifs. < 1255728080 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1255728197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LACK OF SERIFS: Meh < 1255728318 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SERIOUS SERIF SHORTAGE, SHERIFF < 1255728335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'll serif. Your mom))))))))))) < 1255728463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll make the world's smallest italic, serifed pixel font. < 1255728479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't be too many of 'em that are small, can there? < 1255729066 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what size are you planning? < 1255729079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. < 1255729107 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suggests somewhere around the planck scale < 1255729156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, making italic letterforms is hard. < 1255729237 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suggests putting something under the edge of the monitor < 1255729245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1255729261 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to tilt it, of course < 1255729362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You realise that italic letterforms are not just normal letterforms rotated? :P < 1255729390 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible! < 1255729404 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it's a _shear_, not a rotation < 1255729416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they're totally different designs. < 1255729482 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :balderdash! < 1255729515 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehird speaks truth. < 1255729540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The irony of misspelling my name while defending typography :P < 1255729565 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :muphry's law, clearly < 1255729582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, pikhq does it all the time, BUT. < 1255729584 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Italic scripts tend to be a bit more... Curvy. < 1255729598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Italic: MORBIDLY OBESE < 1255729602 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic. maybe a mobius transform then? < 1255729623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITT: oerjan discovers that you can transform any piece of geometry into another < 1255729640 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: More transforms are involved. < 1255729662 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shear horror < 1255729674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moire transforms. < 1255729675 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is B(ullshit)MI of that defined? :-) < 1255729697 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weight / height < 1255729697 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: it's over 9000 < 1255729703 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number of pixels per height? < 1255729707 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, there exists a set of transforms that one could apply, but I think it's a bit on the nontrivial side to make Roman scripts into Italic. (Italic scripts, FWIW, are more curved because they more closely resemble handwriting) < 1255729730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows just renders the font normally and tilts it if it doesn't have any italic script. < 1255729731 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or set area / height? < 1255729734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WINDOWS IS EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL < 1255729761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, many just do oblique type calling it italic. < 1255729771 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That's oblique script. < 1255729786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1255729796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It automatically makes oblique script (badly), and uses it when italic isn't present. < 1255729807 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. < 1255729877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the attention of— magic < 1255730827 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1255731211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1255732673 0 :ehird!n=ehird@212.183.134.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255732878 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255733183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : WINDOWS IS EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL <-- old news. < 1255733431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wut < 1255733431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I allowed to connec < 1255733431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1255733431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I overflowed my limit didn't I < 1255733431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just blocking http < 1255733432 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1255733433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo, socks proxy anyone? < 1255733447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what was your limit? < 1255733465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for what time period? < 1255733532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo test < 1255733539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1255733542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't here? < 1255733545 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, where's the bot? < 1255733547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo test < 1255733554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well you should know < 1255733564 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: is the proxy woolen? < 1255733598 0 :fungot!n=fungot@83.150.124.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255733600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1255733600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fungot < 1255733600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1255733601 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1255733601 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: david bowie alan ginsberg 2 args, " distance" thing makes any sense < 1255733616 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1255733617 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1255733620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1255733633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the highlight < 1255733851 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1255734102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15GB. None; pay as you go < 1255734103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt I've really used 15 gig... < 1255734105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't think why else HTTP requests are being forwarded to Vodafone's "lol hi this is your connection register or login" page. < 1255734171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jesus, horrible lag < 1255734248 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1255734559 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255734673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every single thing y'all said in like < 1255734673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 minutes < 1255734673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :came all at onnce < 1255734673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once < 1255734673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of order < 1255734673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance < 1255734675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:02] fungot joined the chat room. < 1255734676 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: night man. don't be afraid so they can't be bothered reading books these days. it seemed to me that the actors have a bunch of developers with stuff that makes me coolest of all. < 1255734677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:02] AnMaster: hm < 1255734679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:02] AnMaster: it isn't here? < 1255734681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:02] fizzie: Hey, where's the bot? < 1255735168 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1255735172 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungotty < 1255735172 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: expected 2 argument(s) to procedure eval, got 1. < 1255735332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that line is wonderful, i don't know why, it just sits well with me < 1255736204 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255736726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1255736746 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1255737371 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)