00:03:16 it seems to be bed-time for me 00:15:26 well, you could make a video-game system for small games and possibly allow some more classic operations 00:32:22 Wow... T_c 254K superconductor. I have seen ordinary freezers that can go below that temperature... 00:36:24 mostly you could "hardware accelerate" some graphics or sound operations, and there's ample space for craziness in there :D 00:50:05 254k semiconductor? what? where? 00:52:54 254K 00:53:09 or 254 K, to be pedantic 00:59:42 wikipedia lists superconductors with temperatures up to 138k 01:00:12 neat fact: Wikipedia does not reflect reality 01:00:59 and I can't find a news item on it 01:02:04 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 01:02:05 neat fact #2: Wikinews doesn't reflect reality either 01:02:09 -!- puzzlet has joined. 01:02:10 Try /. 01:02:29 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 01:05:27 yeah ok i got one 01:05:43 still looks a bit rough, the kind of results that need confirmation 01:07:09 -!- puzzlet has joined. 01:10:08 -!- fungot has quit (Read error: 148 (No route to host)). 01:10:11 -!- fizzie has quit (Read error: 148 (No route to host)). 01:10:55 Well, pushing T_c higher and higher is fun. Then there are the actually useful superconductors. Like Magnesium diboride. One of the very few non-ceramic superconductors that don't need LHe cooling (LH2 cooling suffices). 01:13:46 Non-ceramic => No lattice to worry about. 01:14:55 lattice? 01:15:07 also, lolboron 01:17:14 Some wild proposals have pipe that transports both electricity and hydrogen by having MgB2 to transport electricity and use liquid hydrogen for cooling while it is being transported. 01:18:17 :D 01:19:42 Well, there are all kinds of wild proposals that "it only takes some engineering". Including 5000km train tunnel that crosses the atlantic... 01:21:00 At least that wouldn't require any new materials, unlike stuff like space elevator... 01:21:23 that's actually a brilliant idea 01:21:35 (the superconducting hydrogen pipe) 01:22:35 Actually, it would be more like cable than pipe... 01:22:42 yeah, I guess 01:22:54 still, it's a great idea 01:23:19 Wonder what B_c that superconductor would have at LH2 boiling point... 01:23:57 B_c? 01:24:35 Critical magnetic flux strength. 01:24:47 *flux density 01:26:40 That determines how much current superconductor can carry. 01:31:42 -!- fizzie has joined. 01:40:23 -!- oerjan has joined. 01:58:19 !interps 01:58:35 !languages 01:58:40 !help 01:58:41 help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . 01:58:46 !help languages 01:58:46 languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. 01:59:02 no lua i see 02:00:04 !bf_txtgen a 02:00:21 hm 02:00:22 madbr: i thought of a bitstring representation that should make quines easy 02:00:23 39 ++++++++++++[>++++++++>+>><<<<-]>+.>--. [34] 02:00:38 oerjan: oh? 02:01:07 (<,$,(<,) <,$,(>,) etc...) 02:01:22 then you just have to pass it the function of what to do with each bit 02:01:26 iiuc 02:04:35 Closely associated with quines are self-f's. Including self-hashes (program which prints hash of its source code). 02:05:17 then print (, the representation above for each bit, ), then the raw bitstring 02:06:44 ah, make bit array, print encoded form and then raw form of the bitstring? 02:06:46 and the bitstring is the string for that printing program 02:06:51 yep 02:07:48 !help bf_txtgen 02:07:48 Sorry, I have no help for bf_txtgen! 02:08:20 coppro: it just makes a bf program to print the string you give 02:08:37 Okay. 02:09:23 !bf_txtgen foobar 02:09:25 66 ++++++++++[>++++++++++>+++++++++++>+><<<<-]>++.>+..<----.-.>+++.>. [310] 02:10:25 madbr: otoh a shorter bit representation will make the quine shorter, probably 02:10:38 * Sgeo wrote something like txtgen for use with PSOX 02:10:47 However, I did it crappily, with no loops 02:11:23 Well, actually, it does use [-] 02:11:24 http://trac2.assembla.com/psox/browser/trunk/utils/TEXT2BF.py 02:11:32 afk 02:18:07 ok I see 02:18:18 I've never written a quine before 02:19:51 madbr: Writing quine in Lua is quite simple. First version that I got to syntax-check worked correctly. 02:20:17 Ilari: he's not writing a quine in lua, he's writing a quine in his esolang written in lua 02:20:20 afk again 02:21:42 madbr: The basic idea: Write code that takes some kind of string representation of itself, then prints that string representation as it was and then the string representation expanded into code. 02:23:48 madbr: Its easier to first write the code, then work backwards to encode it as data. 02:26:54 yeah, a lua quine is not very hard: s=[[io.write("s=[".."["..s.."]".."]"..s)]]io.write("s=[".."["..s.."]".."]"..s) 02:29:07 let's see, the symbol set is &<>,$()!? 02:29:22 but I don't need ? so that makes it 8 02:29:59 yeah I can represent those as (<<<,) etc 02:43:08 yeah, I can see how you can do it, but it will generate a fairly huge program 02:46:42 * Sgeo has never written a quine before :( 02:49:33 -!- Pthing has joined. 02:50:31 madbr: oops, that representation above should be (<&,$,(<,) <&,$,(>,) etc...) 02:51:41 i wasn't thinking about compressing to just commands though, just characters, since that would be easier (but more verbose) 02:52:02 3 vs. 8 bits per command 02:52:03 that's equivalent to (, , etc) no? 02:52:27 hmm 02:52:29 yes, but you need it only for printing 02:52:32 aha 02:52:36 neat 02:53:49 otherwise i guess ($,(<,) $,(>,) ...) would be more flexible 02:54:14 um wait 02:54:47 actually with your tuple closures that could work... 02:55:05 yeah but your first idea sounded nicer 02:56:46 if you want to handle them three at a time, (<&,$,&&(<,)(<,)(>,) ...) 02:57:49 (for a whole compressed command) 02:59:06 !haskell map fromEnum "<>,&$!()" 02:59:11 [60,62,44,38,36,33,40,41] 02:59:52 that is only 5 bits varying actually 02:59:55 fwiw 03:01:17 oh wait 03:01:41 (<<<,) (<<>,) etc. for your command representations 03:02:00 much easier to branch on 03:09:44 it's fairly easy to do a version that prints bit per bit though 03:09:55 yeah it should be 03:10:31 you don't have to do any explicit looping, i think 03:12:05 print (, then enter data function with parameter=print "<&,$,(" then switch between "<" and ">" - there's only 1 bit difference! - then ",)" 03:12:56 then print ), then enter data function again but with (!,) as a parameter :D 03:13:50 :) 03:14:06 this is too easy 03:16:01 it's 9*8 data chars to encode one command though, so i think you can easily trade ease for compression here 03:17:11 yeah but then I have to decode commands into particular ascii chars, which sounds like it would take more code 03:17:21 true 03:19:29 the resulting added complexity might reduce the data compression advantage by a lot 03:20:35 otoh printing "<&,$,(>,)" itself is going to take some room 03:22:23 !(>) or !(<) for each bit in those, 4*8*9 commands 03:22:28 er 03:22:41 !(>,) or !(<,) for each bit in those, 5*8*9 commands 03:22:53 that's going to be the main part of the code 03:23:48 !haskell 5*8*9 * 9*8 03:23:50 25920 03:23:55 wow 03:24:06 !haskell (unsafeCoerce 5)::String 03:24:17 surely not imported 03:24:23 Why is EgoBot trying to chat with me over DCC? 03:24:35 to give you a long error message, i presume 03:24:44 An error message consisting of "b" 03:24:45 everything longer than 1 line is sent over DCC 03:24:47 and a blank line 03:24:52 huh 03:24:52 Try it 03:24:58 !haskell (unsafeCoerce 5)::String 03:25:18 04:25 =EgoBot> /tmp/input.20929.hs:1:0: Invalid type signature 03:25:28 I must not have gotten it soon enoguh 03:25:35 Did EgoBot pm you? 03:25:40 !haskell (unsafeCoerce 5)::String 03:25:48 DCC. i have it set up to autoaccept EgoBot 03:26:03 Now I get the typesafe thingy 03:26:15 Why did I get b before? 03:26:23 heck if i know 03:26:35 !haskell repeat 1 03:27:02 !haskell take 5 $ repeat 1 03:27:04 iirc EgoBot has trouble with infinite output without newlines 03:27:06 [1,1,1,1,1] 03:27:09 ghci> unsafeCoerce 5 :: String 03:27:11 "" 03:27:17 that was sort of unexpected. 03:27:22 heh 03:28:44 madbr: that 25920 above is my minimum estimate on the character length of the quine by this method btw 03:29:51 hm ! returns its argument doesn't it. so you can compress equal runs of bits fwiw 03:30:22 so maybe not that large 03:31:31 oh and maybe do something with the 3 common most significant bits 03:31:41 hmm 03:40:39 I think I have it 03:41:06 the quine and the result have the same filesize - 39 276 bytes :D 03:41:34 good, good 03:41:38 wait 03:41:39 haha 03:41:54 I messed up 03:42:11 It turned < into > and vice versa :D 03:48:40 how much harder is $,(>,) i wonder, should be shorter 03:48:42 can't see any difference in the start or end, so it probably worked :D 03:48:50 40006 byte quine :D 03:48:53 you don't have diff? 03:49:06 in windoze? 03:49:08 ZEE 03:49:23 alas 03:49:52 Observation: Images carefully taken losslessly will interpolate decently up to about 10x in terms of pixel count (roughly 3x each dimension) 03:49:54 <- windows too, but has a linux shell account when he needs it 03:50:15 Further observation: Images not taken losslessly will interpolate decently up to about 0.95x :P 03:50:34 yeah it worked, it's just that the quine is too large to post on the wiki :D 03:50:49 indeed 03:51:32 but yeah it uses 72 bytes of data for each original byte :D 03:52:35 madbr: get diffutils 03:53:02 http://s.engramstudio.com/src/quineprogram.txt 03:55:24 http://s.engramstudio.com/src/quineresult.txt 03:55:34 yeah, I checked, there is no difference 03:56:09 (switching between 2 notepads with the same window settings... yes I know that is incredibly ghetto :D) 04:11:21 The quote is "Please type 'The quote is ', the quote inside quotation marks, a period and a space.". Please type 'The quote is ', the quote inside quotation marks, a period and a space. 04:13:12 Wait, no, that doesn't work :( 04:13:21 you're missing the final part 04:13:56 yeah 04:14:19 haha, I have a much better one :D 04:14:26 Please type this. 04:14:38 this 04:14:42 (Had to be done.) 04:14:55 squeee 04:14:57 :3 04:15:04 i made my first type calculator 04:15:09 Please type this. 04:15:09 reduz, nobody's playing 04:15:09 oh :( 04:15:09 Please type this. 04:15:09 so no go? 04:15:10 mad, Please type this. 04:15:12 Please type this. 04:15:56 that's a cheating quine 04:16:01 the dreaded IRP quine :( 04:16:04 Well, yeah :D 04:17:11 :| 04:21:31 X is ". Type 'X is', X inside quotation marks and X.". Type 'X is', X inside quotation marks and X. 04:22:28 X is". Type 'X is', X inside quotation marks and X.". Type 'X is', X inside quotation marks and X. 04:22:39 hahaha :D 04:22:47 * oerjan whistles innocently 04:22:49 :D 04:24:07 ^ul (:aSS):aSS 04:24:16 dammit fungot 04:24:25 !underload (:aSS):aSS 04:24:26 (:aSS):aSS 04:24:33 haha what language was that again :D 04:24:46 underload, naturally 04:25:56 also very simple, functional concatenative. with text representations so quines are super easy. 04:27:02 woot 04:27:04 no input though 04:27:19 yeah it's a lot like the kind of language I'm trying to do 04:27:48 especially my first one which was a stack functional language too... underload is better though :D 04:42:00 -!- coppro has quit ("I am leaving. You are about to explode."). 04:55:38 -!- coppro has joined. 05:33:24 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 05:37:13 -!- coppro has quit (Remote closed the connection). 05:46:02 -!- Slereah has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 06:00:13 There's a diff in Windows too; it's called "fc", and it's crummy, but it does compare two files. 06:02:02 -!- calamari has joined. 06:21:09 -!- Asztal has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 06:35:02 -!- Slereah has joined. 06:39:19 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 06:40:05 -!- Gracenotes has joined. 06:44:44 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 06:55:38 -!- madbr has quit ("Radiateur"). 06:57:54 -!- FireFly has joined. 07:03:50 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 07:06:52 -!- sebbu has joined. 07:12:38 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 07:49:55 -!- MigoMipo has quit. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:22:02 -!- FireFly has quit ("Later"). 08:23:19 -!- ehird has joined. 08:23:33 15:25:12 you know what would be cool? an esoteric video game system 08:23:34 15:26:32 not really 08:23:34 story of asiekierka's life 08:26:52 anyway, good morning! 09:03:29 -!- adam_d has joined. 09:10:15 "WHY Buy NEW?...When USED Will DO ! ™" 09:11:19 I'm going to try going Dvorak cold-turkey again. 09:11:48 First thing first, set it as part of my desktop background in the bottom-left so I can glance at it. 09:12:16 I wonder if I should try Programmer Dvorak. 09:40:36 -!- adam_d_ has joined. 10:00:08 -!- adam_d has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 10:46:31 -!- ehird has quit. 11:00:55 -!- ehird has joined. 11:07:24 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 11:07:33 Why isn't there a USB→Bluetooth adapter? Just plug in a little stub instead of the USB cord to a device, and it's a Bluetooth device. 11:10:21 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 11:17:09 There might be some problems getting power to the stub, since I think the USB specs sort of say the "host" side of the connection has to provide it. 11:18:54 Wireless power! 11:19:07 fizzie: Well, Bluetooth devices have batteries. 11:19:11 So the little stub has batteries, obviously. 11:19:19 So it can provide power. 11:19:31 (Presumably different sizes for different battery capacities based on device power usage.) 11:21:23 fizzie: Am I crazy, by the way? I have the urge to buy a $325 product and brutally hack it up to my needs, and thus of course voiding that wonderful warranty and any possibility of returning. 11:21:30 Don't answer that, I know the answer. 11:21:54 Presumably you can't really fit very much power in there before the stub starts to become cumbersome, especially since wired-USB devices probably haven't really been designed with power savings in mind. I guess you could get some sort of "working" solution, but it doesn't sound so obviously marketable. 11:22:22 Also, um, I'm pretty sure you could power most USB stuff with two AA batteries. 11:22:37 For weeks. I'm talking stuff like keyboards and mice. 11:23:02 (Presumably with a specially-shaped one for different types of mice :P) 11:24:55 I'm not so completely sure about that if the mouse in question doesn't bother with power-saving so much; wireless mice in general are a lot more aggressive in turning things off when the mouse doesn't seem to be moving. And two AA batteries sounds more in the "blob with maybe a wire" category than "small stub". 11:25:06 Well, alright then. 11:25:20 Anyway! Someone ask me what I want to hack up, and what the hack in question is. 11:25:46 I've seen at least one "make a device 'wireless'" solution in the form that there's a USB stick receiver which talks the wireless-USB standard to a four-port USB hub you can plug things in. It doesn't say in this description whether the hub is battery-provided, or whether it uses a power brick, which makes the wirelessness a bit silly. 11:26:16 What do you want to hack up, and what the hack in question is? (See, I can follow instructions.) 11:26:18 Could be useful for controlling, say, a media PC in another room. 11:27:09 fizzie: The http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/advantage.htm keyboard, and to add a TrackPoint (including buttons and maybe even a scroll wheel). Also, possibly replace the keyswitches with something nicer; I know they're mechanical and I don't think they're clicky, but who knows. 11:27:42 Technically I guess it's $299, since I don't want or need hardware QWERTY/Dvorak switching. 11:31:37 There certainly would be ample space to stick those every-finger trackpoints oklopol wanted on that huge slate. 11:31:55 But yes, it sounds crazy. Wait, I wasn't supposed to answer that. Never mind. 11:32:40 fizzie: I don't even know how I'd even think about going about doing it; I'm pretty sure I'd have to carve out the eight keys (four around each nub (two nubs, one per side)) 11:32:45 as in, the edges 11:33:16 You can melt the keys appropriately; as a bonus, it then doubles as a modern-art peice. 11:33:19 And replacing the switches would be *major* surgery... 11:33:22 fizzie: :D 11:33:44 fizzie: With rubber dome keyboards you can melt it BEYOND REPAIR. 11:33:51 Well, that applies to all things I guess. 11:33:53 Entropy and all. 11:35:02 They could have some sort of "will it melt" youtube show, but maybe that's a bit silly, since I guess just about anything melts if you just try hard enough. 11:36:23 Exactly :P 11:37:04 Will It Eventually Disperse Into Nothingness As The Universe Further And Further Approaches Infinite Disorder 11:42:26 "Will it Exist' 11:42:29 *Exist" 11:46:12 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)). 11:56:33 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 11:58:11 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote closed the connection). 12:02:20 -!- MigoMipo has quit ("Page closed"). 13:48:19 -!- Pthing has quit (Remote closed the connection). 13:50:29 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 14:10:51 -!- ais523 has joined. 14:12:42 -!- oerjan has joined. 14:13:30 story of asiekierka's life 14:13:34 erm wait? 14:13:57 * oerjan looks at madbr suspiciously. or would, if he were here. 14:20:28 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 14:21:02 -!- ais523 has joined. 14:28:56 -!- ais523_ has joined. 14:29:02 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 14:31:09 -!- ais523_ has changed nick to ais523. 14:33:36 wow, they made a superconductor that works at -19 degrees C 14:37:10 or so they claim, i recall reddit comments casting doubt on it 14:39:05 And even if it was true, it might not be very useful... 14:42:41 it's probably affected by stray magnetic fields, or whatever 14:43:03 -!- Sgeo has joined. 14:47:03 yeah that was mentioned, although it seemed even more dubious than that 14:47:44 someone said the graph looked like random noise rather than a successful experiment 14:49:03 heh 14:53:29 -!- Pthing has joined. 15:07:19 -!- MigoMipo has quit ("Page closed"). 15:11:40 Wowsa. 15:11:43 -NickServ- 6 failed logins since last login. 15:11:43 -NickServ- Last failed attempt from: GrEgOr!n=GrEg@95.235.58.21 on Oct 11 19:04:36 2009. 15:11:53 Apparently now that I have the nick "Gregor", people try to steal it :P 15:17:05 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 15:35:24 -!- FireFly has joined. 15:48:57 -!- fax has joined. 15:49:05 12q33w4e5dt67y12345e6r76t87y89u9i234w5ed6fr7t78gyh8u90iJ_0Okp322222222222wsss4ed5rf6tg77hy8u99ji00ko--23w4se5drrrrrft67ghu89i0-oooop123w4e5dgt67uy89j0ik-ol=;23w4e5dt67ghu89j0iko-p=[ 15:49:12 Yo. 15:49:57 your ehird impersonation needs work, bot 15:50:10 FUCK YOU AND ALL YOUR FAMILY 15:50:22 ok, getting closer 15:54:43 -!- coppro has joined. 16:03:10 "The delete key is located directly above the enter key; the key normally found there is the second rightmost key on the row above it. Furthermore, this is an actual delete key, not a historically named backspace. Backspace is accessible through Fn+Delete." 16:03:26 They seriously think Delete is more common than Backspace? 16:03:36 Context? 16:03:54 Happy Hacking Keyboard. 16:04:09 I have to research it; it has topres! 16:04:18 :-P 16:05:01 http://imgur.com/cxMKL.png 16:05:37 wth is/are topres 16:05:51 oerjan: Capacitive keyswitches. 16:06:02 Combination of spring + rubber dome. 16:06:15 Deewiant: How's those Browns, btw? 16:06:37 They're alright 16:06:53 WTF is that pic :-D 16:07:22 keyboard cat a few years later 16:07:42 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 16:07:43 nothing can beat humble hacker 16:07:53 best keybeard I ever saw 16:08:01 16:08:02 Evidently from _why's guide 16:08:21 keybeards for your wearable computer 16:08:23 -!- Pthing has quit (Remote closed the connection). 16:10:00 Deewiant: I made that pic 16:10:07 Deewiant: In the poignant guide, s/keyboard/cigarette/ 16:10:15 fax: keybeard? :D 16:10:15 Well yes, the edit there is obvious 16:11:40 The Humble Hacker Keyboard - geekhack forums 16:11:40 19 Jun 2009 ... A project that I've been working on off and on for more than a year now, the Humble Hacker Keyboard (i.e. a keyboard for humble hackers like ... 16:11:40 geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6292 - Cached - Similar - 16:11:47 I'm pretty sure you can't call yourself humble. 16:12:12 Nice apple.com rip, though... 16:13:06 * oerjan is far too humble to call himself humble 16:14:34 How to beat the DataHand II Professional in cost for a keyboard: $359 Kinesis Advantage Pro + like $200 Topre keyswitches + $50 replacement ThinkPad keyboard to extract TrackPoint from + $50 same = $659. Close, close. 16:15:43 I guess the Topres would be more like $400-$600 without a bulk deal... 16:17:18 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 16:17:35 Such fun, anyway. 16:18:39 I should see what Apple Extended Keyboard[ II]s are going for today. Argh, I'm too addicted! Help help help help help help help help help help help help help 16:19:08 Wow, a new AEKII with adapter for £80. 16:19:14 Now that's something you don't see every day. Unopened... 16:19:20 i'm afraid the only cure is to cut off your hands. no hands, no keyboard. 16:19:54 Some major kbd manufacturer should randomly make a dozen keyboards that'd type "Help, I'm trapped in a keyboard factory." every time you press F7. 16:20:32 Why F7? 16:20:41 oerjan: I'd just obsess over voice and foot interfaces. 16:20:50 "Ooh, nice speech actuation amplifier..." 16:20:54 I just picked a random not-so-common key. 16:20:59 "Hmm... more use out of the tendons? Gimme!" 16:21:32 ehird: hm at that point i think only buddhism helps 16:21:33 fizzie: Try Ab 16:21:44 coppro: Ab? 16:21:50 oerjan: :( 16:21:53 a random, not-so-common key! 16:22:02 aaaaaaaaargh 16:22:05 oerjan: Swat him quick! 16:22:10 * coppro ducks 16:22:15 DUCKS CANNOT HELP YOU 16:22:17 THEY WILL JUST QUACK 16:22:53 i cannot possibly swat for a crime i do not understand 16:23:03 oerjan: wut 16:23:07 oh wait 16:23:27 * oerjan swatteth coppro -----### 16:23:50 quack 16:23:53 quack quack 16:23:58 quaaaaaaaaaaaack 16:24:28 * oerjan swats one of the ducks at ehird -----### 16:24:37 Hey! 16:24:42 I helped your swatting! 16:24:48 * ehird gets a duck to bite off oerjan's nose 16:24:52 quack 16:25:14 ow by dose 16:25:17 -!- coppro has changed nick to walter. 16:25:24 neat, nick is available 16:25:31 now if only I had my bot to use it :( 16:25:33 -!- walter has changed nick to coppro. 16:25:41 hmm... people here, try to guess which language the code I've been asked to maintain is written in 16:25:46 (as part of my job) 16:25:47 ais523: Java 16:25:49 COBOL 16:25:50 INTERCAL 16:25:51 C++ 16:25:52 MUMPS 16:25:55 elisp 16:25:57 coppro: IT'S CALLED M :P 16:25:58 yes, really 16:26:01 ... 16:26:03 and no, the code has nothing to do with Emacs 16:26:05 ais523: hmm, right so, that job, I'd quit it? 16:26:10 that is what i would do 16:26:17 ehird: it's not that bad, at least I know elisp 16:26:24 My job is Python and C++ 16:26:25 I know Brainfuck too 16:26:25 who the hell writes elisp that isn't to do with emacs?? 16:26:32 although using it as a CGI script is one of the weirder uses of it that I've seen 16:26:34 fax: no idea 16:26:36 ais523: WHAHT 16:26:40 ais523: Seriously, man 16:26:42 somehow I doubt the code is going to be high-quality 16:26:47 Duuuuuuude 16:26:54 lol 16:26:54 I haven't seen it yet 16:26:58 I also doubt 16:27:07 I'm pretty sure McDonalds is preferable to maintaining elisp CGIs 16:27:09 :-P 16:27:20 No. No it's not. 16:27:42 actually, I was given three choices by the people in charge: 16:27:43 well, almost 16:27:51 maintain the code so it works (they haven't tried to run it yet) 16:27:55 rewrite it from scratch 16:27:57 or do the work it does by hand 16:28:01 2 16:28:02 the third would take me a couple of days 16:28:08 2 seems potentially an interesting one 16:28:14 unproductive, but less self-hating 16:28:18 Can you legally tell us what it does? 16:28:21 and whoever has elisp cgis doesn't deserve productivity 16:28:46 coppro: several different things, mostly related to trying to fairly allocate things with first/second/third choices and keep track of them after they've been allocated 16:28:57 wat 16:29:00 oh, ok 16:29:01 you mean 16:29:04 maintain lists? 16:29:07 shouldn't be too hard to rewrite then 16:29:17 as far as I can tell, most of what it's meant to do is trivial 16:29:35 which is why I'm encouraged enough to at least have a look at the elisp 16:29:38 once they figure out where it is 16:30:11 Why isn't reddit's css loading for me 16:30:54