< 1254960013 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and speaking of the "aitnesloku"; I ran 60 megabytes of gzipped Finnish newsposts through a pipeline, and indeed the most popular are exactly those, in exactly that order. It must have some sort of basis in truth then. < 1254960225 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sleeps, next. < 1254960484 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still insist that words can be words even if they're ubiquitiless. < 1254960534 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfectly cromulent (although that word is probably not ubiquitiless any longer) < 1254960645 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it would help if you made the last i a y, i think < 1254960690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1254960702 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :geback < 1254961046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sets up Notational Velocity, realises he never has a need to take notes
< 1254961057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't keep a todo because I never forget what I need/want to do... < 1254961118 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you don't need to brush your teeth or comb your hair, they keep perfect all on their own < 1254961134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forget whether you need to do that? < 1254961148 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1254961177 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1254961374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1254961380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't figure out how it's relevant < 1254961422 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a comment on your obvious perfection < 1254961468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't saying anything like that < 1254961479 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I also don't keep a todo because I never forget what I need/want to do... < 1254961483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kept a todo for ages, then I realised when I read it the next day, I knew what it was saying < 1254961487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before I read it < 1254961503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bang goes my theory of I-forget-everything-overnight, bang goes the usefulness of todo lists < 1254961539 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the very act of writing it down caused you to remember; I'm like that < 1254961593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope; I just stopped keeping a todo list and I was fine. < 1254961609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, the things I've forgotten can't have been very good ideas, because I've been perfectly content since. < 1254961764 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I am leaving. You are about to explode." < 1254961897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION explodes
< 1254962031 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1254962081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"First of all, fuck you too. Let's just get that out of the way." --jwz < 1254962158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the replier proceeds to call jamie zawinski an anonymous internet crybaby < 1254962169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...probably with a Netscape-derived browser... < 1254962212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If Palm had approved his apps[…]almost no one would have heard of jwz." < 1254962225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think people would check before calling jwz anonymous, unknown or whatever < 1254962264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was not aware of you as my programming experience hasn't really touched on the open source realm" < 1254962269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Netscape 3: so open source. < 1254962502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, does anyone know of an smtp server that only starts when required? < 1254962505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be cool < 1254962719 0 :augur_!n=augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1254962782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2009/10/there_is_no_web.html OOOooohhh, it's just like the old days of quirksmode! Browser incompatibilities galore! No rendering engine is safe! < 1254962790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My keyboard also seems to be lagging behind my typing! < 1254962815 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :misleading URL :( < 1254962822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1254962830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disproving that the web exists would indeed be amusing. < 1254963053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today in A Series of Things That I Miss When Not Using OS X: You can inject keyboard shortcuts into any application! System Preferences -> Keyboard & Moues -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> + -> Choose an application (or All Applications for global stuff) -> Type in the corresponding name in the menus for the action that you want the shortcut to do -> Press the shortcut -> Add! < 1254963073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance: Safari, Google Search…, ⌘K. < 1254963080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now ⌘K focuses the search field. < 1254963110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It even displays ⌘K next to Edit → Find → Google Search…. < 1254963533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did YouTube change player design *again*? < 1254964456 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1254964520 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1254966711 0 :madbrain!n=madbrain@modemcable175.136-81-70.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1254966732 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent the day working on this http://esolangs.org/wiki/Univar < 1254966870 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one bit? < 1254966893 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, more like 1 function < 1254966971 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I mean the I/O < 1254966995 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, what else is practical with a functional language? < 1254967084 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Monadic I/O? < 1254967127 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is (>,) a function returning the right half of ,, or is it false/0? < 1254967262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: "reassign the value of this variable to a new value" < 1254967265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's functional? < 1254967271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well perhaps, not purely functional thhough < 1254967273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though < 1254967306 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It returns the right half but the i/o uses it to represent false < 1254967354 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd invent new symbols for that; it's too confusin otherwise < 1254967367 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: just imagine it as a series of functions chained from bottom to top < 1254967378 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1254967378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It has IO. < 1254967389 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I was talking about the variabe < 1254967391 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*variable < 1254967391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not purely functional because it is not referentially transparent, and argument oorder matters. < 1254967394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure. < 1254967396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*order < 1254967398 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obviously not purely functional < 1254967406 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-156-195-201.range86-156.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1254967574 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, I think it is referentially transparent < 1254967636 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not < 1254967639 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have I/O < 1254967656 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1254967659 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1254967668 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a statement with an I/O operation cannot be safely replaced with its value < 1254968567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1254970825 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1254971123 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.82.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254971176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1254971205 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1254971261 0 :comex!i=comex@c-98-210-192-54.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1254971411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minimalism doesn't account for bitchin < 1254971413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :discuss < 1254971421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/n $/n/ < 1254971556 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees no space.
< 1254971635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1254971641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, Colloquy strips it. < 1254971647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :New favourite IRC client found! < 1254971658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I should pirate+install Snow Leopard; that could be fun. < 1254971666 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, i would probably not have seen it anyway < 1254971696 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey ehird sir < 1254971701 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :colloquy? eugh. < 1254971718 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sir ehird, baron of hexham < 1254971725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LimeChat is unstable and has no, for instance, ignore feature. < 1254971731 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1254971733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's less mac-like than Colloquy, which admittedly sucks. < 1254971736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it sucks less. < 1254971738 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it definitely has ignore < 1254971741 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is perfectly stable < 1254971744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it does not have ignore. < 1254971748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It at least did not a month or two ago. < 1254971751 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me test this < 1254971757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this because the creator said he would consider adding it. < 1254971761 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1254971763 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt! < 1254971764 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1254971764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In its Google Group. < 1254971766 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1254971767 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1254971779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly I only switched to Colloquy so I could ignore AnMaster for a few hours, but still. < 1254971780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works. < 1254971795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, do you have the snowy leppy up on dat thing? < 1254971796 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prepares to start harassing the defenseless augur_
< 1254971818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't even upgraded to iTunes 9 yet; I'm so fucking old school. < 1254971862 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not yet < 1254971878 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1254971940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a shame that Apple's computers don't feature a model to my liking for the purpose I want, because it would be nice to keep OS X. On the other hand I'm not sure I want to deal with EFI, etc. for other OSs. And OSx86 is just uber-lame. < 1254972110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm continually tempted to stay with OS X every time I see awesome shit like this: http://www.dribin.org/dave/blog/archives/2007/11/28/ssh_agent_leopard/ < 1254972196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, c'mon. They added bloody OS integration to ssh-agent. < 1254972338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh boy oh boy oh boy, exciting new iTunes 9! It's way uglier, looks less like the OS, and has added a smart playlist called Classical Music that I don't want. < 1254972350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, it's... so ugly. < 1254972381 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatve they changed? < 1254972475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brace yourself. < 1254972483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.maniacalrage.net/bucket/itunes/ < 1254972487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hover over. Warning: You may barf. < 1254972514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's literally... I can't keep my eyes on it. I have an urge to close that window AS SOON AS DAMN POSSIBLE. < 1254972588 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so really all they did is < 1254972592 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it look more like safari. < 1254972607 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe not < 1254972608 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1254972614 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardly major changes < 1254972640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1254972644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks nothing like Safari. < 1254972647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They completely changed the UI. < 1254972655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It no longer even imitates OS window decorations. < 1254972669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's some god-awful shiny-glass-candy version. < 1254972672 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tweeted something that probably sounds stupid, but still:
< 1254972676 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Is it just me, or is the bill in the Senate suffering from specifying the changes made, and not indicating the result -- Just like B nomic.." < 1254972685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't care, Sgeo. < 1254972694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't. :P < 1254972696 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTUALLY I DO < 1254972698 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1254972698 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1254972700 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i do < 1254972704 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me more sgeo < 1254972732 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing to say, just that I wish that we could easily read the final result of applying changes found in bills. < 1254972739 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. i see. < 1254972742 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to seeing "Change this here, change that there" < 1254973003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no final text < 1254973011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All text is appended, and the judges have to work out how to apply it all < 1254973030 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Herbert Schildt has a knack for clear, readable text, describing a language subtly but quite definitely different from C." < 1254973037 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to make a compiler for Schildt-lang? < 1254973069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Here's iTunes 9's interface in all its horrible, horrible wretchedness: http://imgur.com/3xiTw.png < 1254973099 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1254973100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that doesn't make you go "bleargh, look what they did to the window title; bleargh, look what they did to the play buttons; bleargh, look what they did to the now-playing box"... you may not be human. < 1254973129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's clearly a regression; it sticks out like a sore thumb unless it's the only application you're running, in which case you can pretend that all of OS X is this ugly and gratuitously shiny. < 1254973177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I like the new feature where it blurs Cover Flow, the track list and the library summary! < 1254973179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1254973508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone laugh at my hilarious joke, yo. < 1254973565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like augur, say. < 1254973572 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHA < 1254973575 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH SO FUNNY < 1254973611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM LIKE < 1254973612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMIC MASTER < 1254973613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VERSION 1 < 1254973614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE MASTER < 1254973618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OF COMICAL < 1254973619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMICS < 1254973621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEAH < 1254973623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUDE < 1254973662 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BURMA SHAVE < 1254974337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/mmhM7.jpg < 1254974474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I may even still be able to write code, and my dream is to contribute to open source software projects even from within an immobile body." --http://lesswrong.com/lw/1ab/dying_outside/ < 1254974643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the original programmers of pgp 2.0) < 1254974757 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hawking's doing fine < 1254974810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yah < 1254974817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: gonna be a bitch to write code on that thing, though < 1254974825 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1254974833 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better pick a language with good code complete < 1254974852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our least productive contributor apart from you, divided by 1,000,000, is more productive than you!" < 1254974860 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1254974892 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :B Nomic < 1254974950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/b/ Nomic < 1254974965 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: support my cards reform < 1254974976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By reform do you mean abolishment? If so, sure. < 1254974988 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reform only < 1254975036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothx < 1254975083 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also gogo wooble, start a coup :) < 1254975094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I'm meant to support Wooble? < 1254975096 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :change it to mahjong, i'm sure zzo would be delighted < 1254975105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I can support Wooble in anythting. < 1254975108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anything < 1254975108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1254975110 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.82.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254975111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1254975120 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.82.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254975121 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: No, Wooble might start a coup; e stole BobTHJ's Admiral of the Navy < 1254975121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1254975137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A coup of what? < 1254975260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you see kay < 1254975261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell him he may < 1254975261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See you in tea < 1254975261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell him from me." < 1254975261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— James Joyce, Ulysses < 1254975280 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you really haven't been paying attention to Agora at all, have you? < 1254975291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Well, I'm explicitly not reading any of the cards-related rules. < 1254975319 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coups are cards-related, but only the Major Arcana (i.e. MwoP) cards < 1254975410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no, I haven't really been paying much attention to Agora after they decided to make the game really crap. < 1254975527 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should propose getting rid of cards < 1254975540 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a chance of passing < 1254975562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then the bloat-loving masses will go "oh, but ehird, what do we replace the dungpile with?". :P < 1254975572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO WHAT IF I'M BITTER < 1254975608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, anyone know if it's safe to pop off the keys in a scissor-switch keyboard? < 1254975624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. every notebook keyboard ever, except Apple computers < 1254975637 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if done correctly, yes < 1254975710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I start to pick one up and it resists but bends up a bit. < 1254975712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I just keep going? < 1254975721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The key doesn't bend. < 1254975722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just tilts. < 1254975804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ? < 1254975807 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you just keep going < 1254975812 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure though < 1254975818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it feels so snappy. < 1254975819 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it on a key you don't need first < 1254975821 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like q < 1254975830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure I need that key. < 1254975839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need num lock, though. < 1254975857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehh... I dunno about this. < 1254975862 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what brand? < 1254975923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cherry. < 1254975934 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1254975940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/keyboards/Desktop/G85-23100/index.htm < 1254975953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The keyswitches are somethhingorother. < 1254975955 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I thought you were being ehird < 1254975956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thing < 1254975961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: "being ehird"? < 1254975972 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying something random that isn't helpful at all < 1254975978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Banana. < 1254975986 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1254975996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SX keyswitches. < 1254976006 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, pretty sure that's what you do. Not sure, and not willing to risk your keyboard on it < 1254976014 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still can't quite believe that http://rinkworks.com/stupid/ is still updated
< 1254976017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to risk my keyboard on it. :P < 1254976030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The hilarity just increases with every update! < 1254976073 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teacher: "You can't do spaces in HTML. If you see spaces on web pages, then they must be using java to override basic HTML. Java saved the Internet, because it removes limitations of HTML, but it's beyond the scope of this course to show you how to do it." < 1254976083 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That has to be made up, right? < 1254976089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is this teacher? < 1254976097 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some person on http://rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_programming.shtml < 1254976110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's impossible to tell. Poe's law. < 1254976176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Programmer: "What do you mean, I can't initialize things in an assert()?"" < 1254976177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1254976183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assert(your_wrong = bitch); < 1254976277 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My teacher once gave us this line of Javascript: < 1254976287 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :document.write("Hello world!"); < 1254976303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this class mandatory or something < 1254976317 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1254976328 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it was a high school Java class (yes, I know, Javascript is not Java. Don't ask me why it was thrown in there) < 1254976338 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We also learned Alice in that class! < 1254976346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I'm pretty sure that I'm glad I'm not in the US, I suppose? < 1254976354 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the chat bot thing) < 1254976367 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yeah, that's the correct thing to be. < 1254976369 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_%28software%29 < 1254976385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Alice sucks. < 1254976395 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks bad. < 1254976406 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't look terrible, but it certainly looks bad < 1254976412 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Public education is still getting used to this whole "students have souls" thing. It'll take another couple of centuries to grasp what a computer actually is. < 1254976433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But I don't want them to get used to a falsity! < 1254976469 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember if we actually learned any Java in that class < 1254976481 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what pikhq said < 1254976559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if he has the patience to see if you can run Windows 95's explorer.exe on XP/Vista/7
< 1254976566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The patience to install one of those in a VM, that is.) < 1254977119 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to play a colourful puzzle game that doesn't use flash... any suggestions?
< 1254977148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the matter? Pansy OS can't handle hardcore Adobe technology? < 1254977172 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I just want something that isn't flash < 1254977180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should stop being such a pansy! < 1254977182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :P.S. Enigma < 1254977194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, DNA Maze! < 1254977233 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enigma is not very puzzley to tell the truth < 1254977237 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, haven't heard of that one < 1254977239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some levels are. < 1254977257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It's by ais523 and really old (iirc he was 15 when he started working on it) < 1254977259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also unreleased < 1254977260 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1254977261 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1254977277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was porting it to SDL recently and I got the source, patched it up a bit for my own nefarious purposes and compiled it for OS X < 1254977288 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what level set should I play, you think? < 1254977293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the license he gave it to me on forbids me from giving it to you without his permission, I believe. < 1254977294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: in Enigma? < 1254977299 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1254977305 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for more puzzles less skill < 1254977306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the sokoban levels are very puzzley, but god I hate sokoban < 1254977307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst game ever < 1254977312 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION discovers what he can only assume to be a bug in YouTube
< 1254977322 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I want Sokoban I'll play NetHack ;) < 1254977324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: compile the SVN version < 1254977337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a few more level packs including some of ais523's < 1254977341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're mostly puzzley < 1254977352 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sokoban = awesomesacue. < 1254977356 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*awesomesauce, even < 1254977356 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kf0o-CqBcM should not be a 3d video < 1254977367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOKOBAN IS LIKE A DICK IN YOUR MOUTH WITHOUT BEING GAY < 1254977380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AWSouljaBoy" < 1254977385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I doubt watching this video is worthwhile. < 1254977412 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made the new year's ball drop, but it is somewhat boring < 1254977425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was referring more to the "this person clearly likes Soulja Boy" aspect. < 1254977428 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And unviewable unless you put crosseyed viewing, which is the bug since this isn't a 3d video < 1254977436 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I've danced to Soulja Boy < 1254977442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a horrible person. < 1254977447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please enter the nearest suicide booth. < 1254977461 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj6niGxLGP0 I'm the guy on the left < 1254977465 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of the video) < 1254977503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is clicking on that link going to improve my day any? < 1254977526 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If watching me have two left feet would improve your day, yes < 1254977536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but two left feet TO SOULJA BOY. < 1254977543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like, I have certain boundaries. In my life. < 1254977544 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you've ever listened to Soulja Boy voluntarily, you should strongly consider the suicide booth. < 1254977546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even with muted audio. < 1254977549 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the... how are knight stones controlled? < 1254977552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I do not transcend these boundaries. < 1254977554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Diagonally. < 1254977566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That video did not improve my day. < 1254977604 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the realization that I just revealed, in a publically logged chat, which school I go to? < 1254977614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Exception requested! I have in my possession a wonderful acoustic cover of whatever the only "song" anyone even knows by Soulja Boy. This clearly required listening to Soulja Boy, and yet I love it. Should its maker really consider suicide booths? < 1254977622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: HAHAHAHA NOW I AM GOING TO RAPE YOU < 1254977633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME NOW THAT I KNOW WHAT SCHOOL YOU GO TO < 1254977656 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... Enigma once again falls prey to the failing of requiring too much skill for a puzzle game < 1254977657 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Consider doesn't necessarily mean use. < 1254977660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts on his RAPE CAPE
< 1254977661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1254977662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1254977665 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want something less mouse conrol more think < 1254977709 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.82.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254977718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done! < 1254977720 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am an exceptionally efficient rapist. < 1254977752 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: want a game with less skill please, I'm not in a skillful mood < 1254977776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, DNA Maze is a puzzle game, but it also requires a looot of tricky movement (keyboard though). < 1254977788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What with the protagonist being a strand of DNA that constantly rotates every Nth of a second. < 1254977798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ tight passages and stuff < 1254977803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you can't have it :P < 1254977805 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyboard > mouse < 1254977807 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also boo :( < 1254977814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could record a video of it! < 1254977820 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want something like DROD, except that I don't feel like DROD right now < 1254977828 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: to the rapemobile! < 1254977836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not! It looks like I deleted my archived Tiger system without regrets. < 1254977842 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... could go downstairs and play some Magic < 1254977848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This includes the only copy of the source that ais523 does not own. < 1254977861 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/includes/included/ < 1254977865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh. < 1254977867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There it is. < 1254977882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out I saved it. < 1254977886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recompiles
< 1254977889 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I'm going to go downstairs and play Magic < 1254977894 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language? < 1254977900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C + SDL < 1254977907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ the worst indentation style ever < 1254977911 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1254977912 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU? < 1254977915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1254977916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worse < 1254977917 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tabs + spaces? < 1254977924 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with tabs at 7 characters? < 1254977928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :void CloseDown(void) { < 1254977928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : for(size_t i=0;i<(sizeof images)/(sizeof *images);i++) < 1254977928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if(images[i]) SDL_FreeSurface(images[i]); < 1254977929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if(DemoFile) {fclose(DemoFile); DemoFile=0;} < 1254977929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : SDL_Quit(); } < 1254977930 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worse than GNU indentation? There are indentations worse than GNU indentation? < 1254977937 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wowsa. < 1254977938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, it mixes spaces and tabs (assumed to be 8 characters wide) < 1254977951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais did it to be the indentation scheme intentionally repulsive to the most people possible < 1254977957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a bitch to maintain < 1254977957 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL IT! KILL IT!!! < 1254977982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To put it politely, I want to kill a bitch whenever I see it. < 1254977987 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I have only two real objections to that, and two minor issues < 1254978002 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you have problems, coppro. < 1254978024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I recoded the build system and added the ability to make a Mac OS X binary, added a debug mode that unlocks all levels and, uh, stuff. < 1254978027 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but ... it's _perfect_! < 1254978040 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cackles maniacally
< 1254978049 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :objections = closing brace not on own line, the second if all on one line. Minor issues are the first if being on one line and the leading brace not on its own line < 1254978060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean you object to all of it? :P < 1254978061 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, now that I look there's spacing issues too, but that's generally not considered indentation style < 1254978071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, mixing spaces andd tabs < 1254978072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and < 1254978078 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that too, but it's not visible here < 1254978092 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 2 spaces > everything else except elastic tabs < 1254978094 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://giraffes.pastebin.com/m44341aad < 1254978098 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to maintain. < 1254978100 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wishes elastic tabs existed in KATE
< 1254978103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 spaces are generally better. < 1254978118 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: wow... wtf < 1254978122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 is too disjointed, but 2 is too clunked together and encourages lots of nesting. < 1254978124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? < 1254978135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just FUCKING USE TABS and let the reader decide, you goddamn fascist. :P < 1254978145 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, tabs are even worse < 1254978146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to start a new marketing campaign for tabs < 1254978147 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... maybe 3 looks good. I've never tried it < 1254978150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TABS: FUCKING USE THEM" < 1254978159 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you inevitably have other things that need to line up - continuations, comments, etc. < 1254978165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Tabs suck IF YOU USE THEM FOR ALIGNMENT, which is to say tabs suck IF YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD. < 1254978165 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tabs are terrible for those < 1254978175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So don't use them for alignment. That's not what a tab is. < 1254978180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, alignment is generally stupid. < 1254978194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just put things on their own line before scrambling to reach the level of some other thing. < 1254978204 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: sure, but if you use tabs for indentation, you can't safely spaces for alignment, because you don't know how many spaces the tab takes up < 1254978210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you can < 1254978213 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: have you ever heard of elastic tabs? < 1254978216 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alignment and indentation are too intertwined. < 1254978220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just use tabs until there's no more indentation, then space until you're aligned < 1254978222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH SNAP THAT WAS HARD! < 1254978235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have heard of elastic tabs. < 1254978246 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish more editors supported them < 1254978249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are a solution in search of a problem; if you want such fluidity, ditch text-based editing and go to ASTs. < 1254978253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think that's a good solution either.) < 1254978274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION plays me some DNA Maze!
< 1254978283 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Now write an editor that distinguishes alignment from indentation and actually maintains your alignment in the correct tab/space ratio while you write code. < 1254978293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's... any editor. < 1254978297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But seriouslly. < 1254978299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*seriously < 1254978302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alignment: retarded. < 1254978303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example:" < 1254978308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/"$// < 1254978318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo(); // bar < 1254978318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : // quux < 1254978323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, less stupidly: < 1254978326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :// bar < 1254978330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :// quux < 1254978331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo(); < 1254978344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int bleh(int bar, < 1254978345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : int shit) < 1254978346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or < 1254978351 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/ < 1254978354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int bleh( < 1254978354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int bar, < 1254978354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int shit) < 1254978366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or if you need a newline in a parameter list, stop having so many damn arguments) < 1254978370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cest my race. < 1254978373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway. < 1254978377 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww < 1254978378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION loves DNA Maze's DOS-style graphics
< 1254978382 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I'm lagged by at least 30 seconds. Sweet. < 1254978388 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps more. < 1254978397 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm just not connected at all. < 1254978403 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Maybe I'm just not connected at all. < 1254978425 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pings Gregor
< 1254978448 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the same thing happen to me, but only on Foonetic, and only in XChat, and I could see everything as it happened < 1254978453 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used ERC as an emergency IRC client < 1254978488 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the server XChat was connected to was lagging one-way somehow < 1254978491 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Ping reply from Gregor: 66.70 second(s) < 1254978565 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, is your system clock accurate? < 1254978638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, I forgot how hard DNA Maze is. < 1254978641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... wow. < 1254978655 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skill or puzzles? < 1254978692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not so much a puzzle game in that there's no hidden meaning to the level, but there is an awful lot of quick thinking. < 1254978708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as puzzley as some of Enigma's puzzle levels, but it's more puzzley, IMO, than Enigma's other levels < 1254978708 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not a sit-back-and-think sort of game? < 1254978726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are a crazy cyborg with unnatural keyboard skills and a ridiculously fast brain, sure it is. < 1254978730 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes games without time pressure
< 1254978752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you can go as slow as you want if you're in a safe position and don't have a bomb about to go off in your space. < 1254978803 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :complete lack of time pressure is not necessary for fun, so I'd be willing to give it a shot < 1254978809 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is with coppro
< 1254978821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do a little video of it . < 1254978822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it. < 1254978823 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it's just a sort of "okay, sit back, and gogogo, and sit back, and gogogo", that can be very good < 1254978856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of like "Okay, I have to put this in that position and then that bomb will go off there so I can get into this place and move there which will tilt me there. 3, 2, 1, TAPTAPTAPTAPTAPTAP Phew. Okay, now... hmm..." < 1254978876 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, sounds good then < 1254978886 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is reading/watching/whatever OpenCourseWare a good idea? < 1254978897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes. MIT are win. < 1254978902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is, maybe. < 1254978903 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION signs up for an MTGO beta draft
< 1254978982 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Brain-and-Cognitive-Sciences/9-00Fall-2004/LectureNotes/index.htm how long should I expect the lectures to be? < 1254978986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION downsizes screen resolution, starts recording
< 1254979088 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay betadraft < 1254979204 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIT asks for rescussitation info? < 1254979239 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh like < 1254979243 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 45 minutes? < 1254979247 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is usual lecture length < 1254979249 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe an hour? < 1254979261 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This file is 1:19:16 < 1254979332 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reasonable < 1254979454 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Quantitative Physiology: Organ Transport Systems" WTF is that doing in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science? < 1254979457 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/courses/courses/index.htm#ElectricalEngineeringandComputerScience < 1254979532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: OK, I have a 5 minute, 14MiB demo < 1254979546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With an annoying huge opaque watermark all the way through, but there you go < 1254979550 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i presume it deals with electrical systems in biology? < 1254979557 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and goes into quite nerdy detail? < 1254979580 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1254979582 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first is a laboratory project on microfluidics. It provides an opportunity to study molecular transport and diffusion. In the second project, a software representation of the Hodgkin-Huxley model for a neural membrane will be used to introduce students to the use of computer simulation to understand the behavior of complex systems. < 1254979583 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :email < 1254979592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i could just youtube it or something < 1254979605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I need to find some headphones to check that it picked up my keypresses < 1254979605 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that would work < 1254979611 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's even more lossy < 1254979616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll upload it as HD < 1254979621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tiles are big enough h to see, anyway < 1254979623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the font is huge < 1254979624 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1254979639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be noted is that I'm not actually any good at it < 1254979694 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fine < 1254979697 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty bad at most games < 1254979702 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except Agora, yay!) < 1254979724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you will have to look at the APPALLING APPLE-MADE WINDOW MANAGER around it. < 1254979831 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I should rephrase that < 1254979837 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty bad at most video games < 1254979848 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'll survive < 1254979873 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"No, you'll explode!" < 1254980009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: emailing might be easier; do you have the ability to play H.264 files? < 1254980016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, an evil patented format involving APPLE < 1254980019 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can mplayer play them? < 1254980023 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or vlc? < 1254980030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not yet found a format for which the answer to that is no. < 1254980032 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume yes < 1254980038 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so send it over < 1254980039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(VLC sux; it can't handle softsubs properly) < 1254980051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It completely disregards their formatting) < 1254980128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, uploading to Gmail < 1254980138 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1254980146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audio is recommended for oh-he-pressed-a-key purposes. < 1254980162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The only controls are the arrow keys, btw (apart from in the menus)) < 1254980323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit guys < 1254980331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I snapped off a key, where iis it < 1254980341 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the floor < 1254980351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there < 1254980354 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, sorry, you're ehird. Try looking under the banana < 1254980361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were right. But it just went < 1254980363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POP < 1254980366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :andd it was no longer there < 1254980367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and < 1254980368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :freaky < 1254980375 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was under the banana? < 1254980376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now how do I reattach it < 1254980381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1254980382 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scissor-switch? < 1254980385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1254980391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiny little dot on t he key < 1254980393 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just stick it on and press < 1254980397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiny little dip in the rubber < 1254980399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :connecting: lol < 1254980418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No luck so far! < 1254980422 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1254980439 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you need to do something arcane and stupid... good news is you got that key off < 1254980441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's i, by the way < 1254980455 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the switch still on the board? < 1254980479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The switch being? < 1254980487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The key that is off is just the plastic cap < 1254980487 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scissor-switch < 1254980490 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1254980495 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be not screwed then < 1254980501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The little rubber nub that activates it is also still there < 1254980505 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you may need to filled a little with it to get it back on < 1254980509 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fiddle < 1254980512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a little dip for the tiny plastic dot to go in < 1254980535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needle, haystack < 1254980545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, the switch lifts up < 1254980562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the key?! < 1254980599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: forecast not good, man < 1254980612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sending dna maze < 1254980619 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1254980649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sent < 1254980658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the video < 1254980667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the prog :P < 1254980673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so should i declare my i key a lost cause :( < 1254980715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's back on < 1254980717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lopsided < 1254980718 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1254980721 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1254980729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I guess is permanent < 1254980736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only subtly < 1254980738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody else would notice < 1254980744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's poking up on the right side < 1254980751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it < 1254980751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1254980752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1254980753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1254980754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares < 1254980760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an interim kb < 1254980810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1254980813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pushed down hard < 1254980815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLACK! < 1254980818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems fine now < 1254980825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a little harder to press than the other keys < 1254980841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the total height including keys of this keyboard is 0.7" < 1254980951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[RUTLAND — A man placed on probation last week for allegedly assaulting his wife was arraigned yesterday on new charges stemming from an alleged assault his spouse said was brought on by her failure to properly cook his bacon on Sunday. < 1254980951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[…] < 1254980951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She had been turning over strips of bacon that were cooking in a pan when Mr. Rutledge became angry because “it wasn’t in a neat line,” she wrote in a statement she gave police. She told police he struck her and told her, “You’re going to cause your own death.” < 1254980952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He allegedly pushed her onto the couch when she threatened to call 911, saying, “You’ll pay with your life.”]] < 1254980956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this man is a true defender of the bacon cause! < 1254980967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahem. < 1254980975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway < 1254981096 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no email yet :( < 1254981104 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn you smtp < 1254981104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check your spam(TM) < 1254981123 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you aren't Clicked Cash are you? < 1254981133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out no. < 1254981323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why so many Pascal's Wager rebuttals don't mention the fact that it assumes there are only two options: atheism and one form of Christianity. < 1254981353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be totally defeated by showing that, since there are infinite possible gods, your chance, no matter what, of picking the right one is exactly 0. < 1254981386 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1254981391 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate this discussion < 1254981394 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who fucking cares < 1254981410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to bsmntbombdood, two random lines are a discussion < 1254981422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and the best way to end two lines is three lines < 1254981436 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also nobody cares about theology apparently < 1254981444 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a controversial statement if ever there were one < 1254981456 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pascal's wager is the mathematical form of "subscribe to our religion, or else.." < 1254981468 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing original there < 1254981470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not as if people still seriously bring up pascal's wager. it's not as if religion has a massive influence on humanity < 1254981473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnopppppppppppe < 1254981524 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to convert something totally crazy < 1254981529 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*convert to < 1254981537 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay go nuts < 1254981538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an integer < 1254981548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int(oklopol) < 1254981550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe scientology < 1254981554 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz i'm scientist < 1254981575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, scientists practice scientogy < 1254981611 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agora needs a Major General Stanley reference < 1254981612 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean my heart is the heart of a scientist, obviously i'm not yet an official one. < 1254981632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a lab coat < 1254981635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that counts as your registration < 1254981663 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lab coats are so cool < 1254981666 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :science is not a religion < 1254981670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who would buy a lab coat is clearly someone to be certified as an Officially Licensed Practitioner of Science, or scientist for short < 1254981677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: hurr reading comprehension fail < 1254981681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also joke fail :P < 1254981681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: don't say things like that near ehird < 1254981689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1254981701 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well you notice them and punish < 1254981701 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1254981703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also technically the scientific method is just as arbitrary as any religion, but it's less, you know, retarded. < 1254981725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: < 1254981726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[05:59] oklopol: maybe scientology < 1254981726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[05:59] oklopol: cuz i'm scientist < 1254981729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't say science, he said scientology < 1254981825 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should start doing science-ology, and never make it clear whether i just mean i do science or some sort of extreme scientology < 1254981842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scienceology is totally hardcore < 1254981890 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1254981895 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i don't really believe in nonexact science, actually i have a rather hard time even believing mathematical proofs even after understanding them, unless they're trivial < 1254981904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: you like ..s as much as bsmntbombdood likes ...s < 1254981921 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1254981922 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are operating with some weird definition of belief then < 1254981924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,, < 1254981931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: who is? < 1254981937 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol < 1254981938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1254981939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol < 1254981943 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: how can i know i raed it right? < 1254981945 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*read < 1254981954 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like dude < 1254981959 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you know you read anything right < 1254981963 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that anyone ever did... WHAT IF EVERYONE ALWAYS MADE THE SAME ERROR < 1254981965 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like maybe you are reading the pictures < 1254981972 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the thing you think are the pictures < 1254981976 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the writing < 1254981977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: whoa < 1254981986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just got me high... with words < 1254981988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are they pictures < 1254981992 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1254981992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe this is the channel list... < 1254982110 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seriously can't understand what you meant < 1254982125 0 :Rugxulo!n=user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1254982158 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean "what if you always read all the math you read, completely wrong"? great counterargument to my not believing in math! < 1254982164 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dog out time -> < 1254982171 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogs :) < 1254982186 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, what are the bot commands in here? < 1254982187 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1254982187 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1254982188 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?help < 1254982191 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!info < 1254982192 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot is a bot for running programs in esoteric programming languages. If you'd like to add support for your language to EgoBot, check out the source via mercurial at https://codu.org/projects/egobot/hg/ . Cheers and patches (preferably hg bundles) can be sent to Richards@codu.org , PayPal donations can be sent to AKAQuinn@hotmail.com , complaints can be sent to /dev/null < 1254982195 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1254982195 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I don't get is avant garde composers < 1254982196 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1254982199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: there are many bots < 1254982200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance < 1254982203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!info < 1254982204 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot is a bot for running programs in esoteric programming languages. If you'd like to add support for your language to EgoBot, check out the source via mercurial at https://codu.org/projects/egobot/hg/ . Cheers and patches (preferably hg bundles) can be sent to Richards@codu.org , PayPal donations can be sent to AKAQuinn@hotmail.com , complaints can be sent to /dev/null < 1254982205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`info < 1254982205 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :File: dir Node: Top This is the top of the INFO tree \ This (the Directory node) gives a menu of major topics. \ Typing "q" exits, "?" lists all Info commands, "d" returns here, \ "mCoreutils" visits Coreutils topic, etc. \ Or click mouse button 2 on a menu item or cross reference to select \ it. < 1254982207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1254982211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1254982211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1254982212 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1254982214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1254982215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1254982217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's gone < 1254982219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie! < 1254982220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot crashed. < 1254982228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is the one written in befunge. < 1254982262 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e 'say "hi!"' < 1254982263 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one argument only < 1254982274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'say "hi!"' < 1254982275 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982276 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I don't get is avant garde composers... do they believe in themselves or are they charlatans? < 1254982278 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl 'print "Hi!"' < 1254982279 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982283 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -V < 1254982284 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 10 subversion 0) configuration: \ Platform: \ osname=linux, osvers=2.6.26-1-vserver-amd64, archname=x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi \ uname='linux excelsior 2.6.26-1-vserver-amd64 #1 smp sat jan 10 19:46:42 utc 2009 x86_64 gnulinux ' \ config_args='-Dusethreads -Duselargefiles < 1254982289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: Avant garde composers are interesting and their music is interesting. < 1254982292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's not to get about them < 1254982309 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uname -a < 1254982310 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux codu.org 2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 20:39:26 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1254982311 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: Avant garde composers do very unique things with music. What's not to get? < 1254982319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does your mom ahahahahem. < 1254982329 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I generally find their music hugely disappointing < 1254982334 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`befunge "F"& 9* : 5% v < 1254982334 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,,"."+*68*2%5.+*84/5:_5/84*+.,@ < 1254982334 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1254982334 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love 4'33". < 1254982338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1254982340 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1254982346 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`befunge 55*.@ < 1254982347 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try !befunge. < 1254982360 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge 55*.@ < 1254982360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo runs Linux commands. < 1254982361 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 < 1254982364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot runs esolangs. < 1254982369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot runs esolangs and babbles. < 1254982376 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`figlet "I AM A HOMO" < 1254982377 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982379 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1254982395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Download figlet, compile it and you can use it. < 1254982410 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure i know i can use it, i just wanted to see if the robot could < 1254982413 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`banner Hi! < 1254982413 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982423 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc -v < 1254982424 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: I meant/ < 1254982426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inside the bot < 1254982428 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gcc -v < 1254982428 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982431 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1254982432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which gcc < 1254982432 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/bin/gcc < 1254982437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gcc -V < 1254982437 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1254982443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gcc -v 2>&1 < 1254982444 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /usr/bin/gcc -V < 1254982444 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using built-in specs. \ Target: x86_64-linux-gnu \ Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Debian 4.3.3-10' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.3/README.Bugs --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --enable-multiarch --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib < 1254982445 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need 2>&1 < 1254982470 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /usr/bin/gcc --dumpversion < 1254982471 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1254982480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2>&1 < 1254982484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gcc --dumpversion 2>&1 < 1254982485 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /usr/bin/gcc --dumpversion 2>&1 < 1254982485 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc: no input files < 1254982485 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc: no input files < 1254982491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why /usr/bin/ < 1254982499 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: well, it's kinda like listening to this guy making weird sounds with a huge modular synth... sure, the technology is interesting, and he makes some original sounds... but often times it's hard to distinguish between that and some synth plugin with randomized settings < 1254982510 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry for flooding the channel with this cruft, just curious) < 1254982520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: If you don't like it, don't listen. < 1254982542 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I don't listen. < 1254982553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So don't complain. < 1254982563 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am i supposed to get figlet on if i can't wget < 1254982563 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I find it sad that they squat all those avenues for new music. < 1254982574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: there's a command to dl < 1254982576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1254982577 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? \ addquote \ calc \ commands \ creatures \ define \ esolang \ etymology \ fortune \ google \ helpme \ imdb \ minifind \ paste \ ping \ quote \ rec \ runfor \ sayhi \ strfile \ toutf8 \ translate \ translatefromto \ translateto \ unstr \ url \ wolfram < 1254982581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: Squat them? < 1254982600 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno how to say it < 1254982600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you saying somehow that avant garde... waste... avenues for new music? < 1254982605 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1254982606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... < 1254982607 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1254982611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're insane. < 1254982627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/url < 1254982627 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ if [ "$1" ] \ then \ echo 'http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/'"$1" \ else \ echo 'http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/' \ fi < 1254982631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1254982632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1254982633 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, mostly I think they should do better music < 1254982634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it called again < 1254982640 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :curl? < 1254982648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's a special command < 1254982649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in the bot < 1254982650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`download bitch < 1254982651 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254982656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: So you are the singular judge for what is good music? < 1254982670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considered that you might be a bit of an authoritarian? < 1254982696 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, can I at least expect something distinguishable from pure random notes? < 1254982710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. The composers don't haev to answer to your whims. < 1254982712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have < 1254982748 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't critique people that compose better than me. < 1254982790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically, your definition of better = is like the status quo. < 1254982797 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1254982814 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it just sounds like a bunch of random notes" < 1254982815 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is like < 1254982829 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :centuries old code for "i don't like this, it sounds weird" < 1254982833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the 50s you'd be complaining that you wished rock 'n roll composers would make songs indistinguishable from hitting the same three notes again and again. < 1254982856 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, am I complaining against rap? Or metal? < 1254982860 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1254982869 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1254982875 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254982876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how predictable this conversation is? < 1254982877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :102% < 1254982882 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These styles don't appeal to me but at least they're... musically honest < 1254982887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :musically honest? < 1254982896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're musically douchebag, tell that to John Cage's face < 1254982905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in his grave i guess < 1254982935 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because somebody paints the Madonna and smears elephant dung on it doesn't make it "art" < 1254982947 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. etc. etc. < 1254982963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: yeah, art is stuff that was produced with techniques that existed in the 1300s, dammit! < 1254982964 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I complain about is that they try too hard to be original, to the detriment of being good < 1254982970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :toe the boundaries! < 1254982973 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, their output turns to white noise < 1254982981 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1254982982 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like metal < 1254982984 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for tinnitus ;-) < 1254982987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: you say that because you don't like it, but it isn't true < 1254982989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing++ < 1254982990 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same argument has been said of most forms of music, madbrain. < 1254983034 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found the growliest metal yesterday < 1254983038 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was really quite something < 1254983041 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme find the link < 1254983047 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :death metal? < 1254983052 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god knows < 1254983068 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :90% of everything is ... < 1254983068 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is not a huge fan of death metal; gimme some Led Zeppelin.
< 1254983074 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cockandball.de/media/cbt_tampont.mp3 < 1254983078 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Van Halen, ftw! ;-) < 1254983088 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, the name says it all :-P < 1254983089 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1254983092 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second verse is better < 1254983121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahaha < 1254983121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love this < 1254983121 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: dogs :) <<< do you want this one? god i hate carrying its shit < 1254983122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gahahaha < 1254983139 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes a computer hate him by running 8 different mencoder jobs in parallel
< 1254983148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia classes this band as < 1254983152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pornogrind" < 1254983155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not joking < 1254983174 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray, encoding an entire TV series at once. < 1254983254 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's like this guy who wrote a tremolo between two notes, and of course it had to be a tritone < 1254983277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're boring madbrain < 1254983279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :booooooooooooooooooooooring < 1254983285 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff < 1254983299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop making music that's too different < 1254983304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're being unappealing to my ears ON PURPOSE < 1254983309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretentious asswipes! < 1254983314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :end summary < 1254983357 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT ALL WENT WRONG WHEN THAT DAMNED FOOL THRUG STARTED USING "NOTES" INSTEAD OF BEATING STICK ON STICK. < 1254983382 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's a difference between being original, and being totally disconnected from what is good or bad < 1254983398 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and having no idea what you're doing < 1254983404 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what that difference is one of the single most subjective things in music. < 1254983431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having no idea what you're doing < 1254983432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain < 1254983433 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`befunge "F"65* 9* : 5% v < 1254983434 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,,"."+*68*2%5.+*84/5:_5/84*+.,@ < 1254983434 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1254983434 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254983439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your ego is massively inflated < 1254983449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first you implied that you can compose better than avant garde composers < 1254983455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now you're saying none of them have any idea what they're doing < 1254983457 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`befunge "F"65* 9* : 5% v < 1254983457 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ,,,"."+*68*2%5.+*84/5:_5/84*+.,@ < 1254983457 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1254983457 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254983461 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, oh well < 1254983463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: ... < 1254983468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do realise why that's failing, right? < 1254983470 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-) sorry < 1254983481 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause IRC sucks? :-P < 1254983481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: protip < 1254983484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`befunge http://url < 1254983484 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254983487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :runs url < 1254983566 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, never mind, continue < 1254983617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa < 1254983653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anybody actually use key repeating? < 1254983657 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1254983659 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooooooooo < 1254983677 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :helps a lot with the ergonomy of some software < 1254983683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what < 1254983728 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can think of Impulse Tracker in particular < 1254983756 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically keyboard based software with lots of arrow navigation < 1254983761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1254983782 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like maximum rate minimum delay < 1254983793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never use it when typing normally, at least. < 1254983800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, disregarding bad software. < 1254983838 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno, holding down pgup/pgdn is practical and useful < 1254983846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For giving you a headache. < 1254983859 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.+++.+.+++++++++.--------------. sux0rz < 1254983860 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254983867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf. < 1254983871 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.+++.+.+++++++++.--------------. sux0rz < 1254983871 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1254983871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn. Your. Bots. < 1254983872 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1254983877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1254983877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1254983878 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-) < 1254983879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf. < 1254983881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1254983881 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, just a lame joke < 1254983894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was that even a joke ;| < 1254983931 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, maybe I should call it "art", j00 k10z3-m1nd3d f00l! < 1254983961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note that all of the "blaaaaaa modern art isn't art" people cannot ever give a satisfactory definition of art < 1254983962 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :art fascism < 1254983993 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about the definition of art < 1254984074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt you'd define avant garde composers' work as art. < 1254984081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so clearly you care < 1254984094 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is art, just misguided < 1254984113 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++[>+++++++<-]>+++.--. the meaning of life < 1254984114 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1254984130 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... *facepalm* < 1254984133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to make like 50 avant garde compositions nnow just so you can weep about how i've closed so many avenues for new music < 1254984134 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1254984145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, you know, those avenues are scarce! < 1254984149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now < 1254984160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: no, the answer to life, the universe and everything < 1254984165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the meaning of life < 1254984168 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like there's more possible songs than there are atoms in the universe or anything! < 1254984236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean infinity is greater than ~2^80? < 1254984237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am shocked < 1254984240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocked < 1254984241 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain, you still use IT?? < 1254984245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need colours in here :((( < 1254984275 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rugxulo: I haven't kicked the habit yet < 1254984282 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smells DOSBox
< 1254984307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wake up and smell the dosbo < 1254984309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/x/ < 1254984337 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has it214v5.zip from Sep. 2004, assumes that's the latest
< 1254984358 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rugxulo: I keep an old PC to run it < 1254984385 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't blame you, just a little surprised < 1254984395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i find tracker-style interfaces crazy < 1254984404 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course ;-) < 1254984422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The software was distributed as freeware, though for a fee the author supplies extra features, such as support for WAV output and IPX networks. After the stereo WAV writer plugin was publicly pirated,[citation needed] the original author announced that he would discontinue development after version 2.14.]] < 1254984430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so very butthurt < 1254984440 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 Jupiter < 1254984442 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure he had other reasons too < 1254984451 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot won the draft < 1254984455 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's from like 1999 < 1254984458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: wut < 1254984461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: yes < 1254984463 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jupiter = Holst < 1254984469 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :draft = MTGO beta draft < 1254984486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION scratches head
< 1254984490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you make no sense to me < 1254984491 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the only part updated since 1999 (apparently) is KEYBOARD.ZIP, everything else is old < 1254984502 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Jupiter is a piece of music < 1254984504 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by Holst. < 1254984508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the planets < 1254984512 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1254984514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just, you know < 1254984518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you expressing your love for a planet < 1254984520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of context < 1254984526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was kinda incomprehensible? < 1254984527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1254984529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: last release was 1999, says wp < 1254984629 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp? < 1254984648 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I assume Wikipedia < 1254984675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1254984680 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, Trackers tend to be kinda hexadecimal and stuff like that, but they're not bad on the musical expression side < 1254984704 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they're good for rapidly composing music < 1254984750 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1254984785 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain, what soundcard does your "vintage" PC have? < 1254984801 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sb awe64 < 1254984809 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine too ;-) < 1254984854 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you've also heard of Adlib Tracker II, Dr. Track, etc. < 1254984875 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Adplug / Adplay < 1254984884 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I've done some nice music on adlib tracker II < 1254984901 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly trying to exploit that crazy 4 operator mode < 1254984920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: did you receive the video? < 1254984928 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no :( < 1254984934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ehh < 1254984937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: dcc? < 1254984943 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, wortha try < 1254984949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1254984966 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1% < 1254984979 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it's actually progressing at a reasonable rate < 1254984981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty fast < 1254984983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :50KiB/s < 1254984984 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like... impossible < 1254984984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1254984993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen upload speeds this good... < 1254984999 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much less on DCC < 1254985004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1254985008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what's your downstream? < 1254985027 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rugxulo: do you have any songs? < 1254985039 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I wrote? nothing good, no < 1254985055 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: clarify? < 1254985061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :60KiB/s upload on an ADSL connection < 1254985064 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't remember the Linux IT clone's name
< 1254985065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am gobsmacked. < 1254985071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what's your connection, what's its speed < 1254985077 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oh, no clue < 1254985083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1254985085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1254985096 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DSL I think, and a pretty good connection < 1254985100 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rugxulo: Schism tracker < 1254985104 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is Canada, the land of Don't Get What You Pay For < 1254985122 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1254985129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm on an 8Mb/somethingMb plan < 1254985139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon should be 24Mb/2.5Mb < 1254985163 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada isn't great for mobile phones or fast internet, no < 1254985169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so, theoretically, I could send this at 320KiB/s soon :-P < 1254985174 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has other comparative advantages < 1254985177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huge emphasis on theoretically... < 1254985187 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... < 1254985194 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why'd it stop? < 1254985209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it finished < 1254985210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1254985211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1,000,000 players in a year's time self-organising a tournament of Fortress to be held in one day, the champion team winning THE CUP and £16,000 per player, with post-dated funding of server admin, programming-developers, and game-designers." < 1254985212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... < 1254985217 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1254985221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16,000 * 1 million < 1254985237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := the winner wins £16,000,000,000 < 1254985243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whut < 1254985254 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1254985261 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sent two requests. the abort message was the other one < 1254985271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't do a thingg < 1254985273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thing < 1254985278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :colloquy handled it all for me < 1254985315 0 :oklokok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1254985508 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: looks neat < 1254985518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :verily < 1254985568 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok! :D < 1254985627 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1254985994 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the violins in the holst/the planets/mars intro playing col legno? < 1254986648 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Re. does the compiler course still target Sparc: no, it targets an apparently custom stack machine called SLX (http://ace.cs.hut.fi/T-106.4200/project/guide-to-slx.html) < 1254986660 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I forgot to respond before going to bed, apparently) < 1254987007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i think that retards < 1254987263 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain < 1254987266 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mars <3 < 1254987371 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stardestroyer.net/Empire/Media/Mars.mp3 << my personal favorite rendition of the piece < 1254987652 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too fast < 1254987749 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit fast yeah :D < 1254987798 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice crescendo though :D < 1254987806 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, that's a shame; I liked the Sparc parts. (Though there weren't really much of those, a sort of "runtime library" was already provided by the course people.) < 1254987816 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the speed < 1254987881 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such speed belongs to Jupiter < 1254987914 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1254987919 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it for mars < 1254987921 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: And fungot didn't "crash", I just still don't have a power supply for the box it should be running on, and don't feel like doing any temporary arrangements, since all the babbling models and such are only on that one disk. < 1254987924 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not even terribly fast < 1254987979 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha the speed up on the second crescendo :D < 1254988450 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really wish i had a tv show about space and big wars and so forth < 1254988451 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1254988462 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would really love to use holst's mars in such a thing < 1254988477 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been used in Mario games < 1254988483 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1254988487 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse to accept this. < 1254988492 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the whole thing < 1254988557 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears (in midi) in a level of commander keen 5 < 1254988571 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1254988632 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds really awesome in Galaxy < 1254988675 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1254988706 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIDI? Does Commander Keen 5 use MIDI? I thought it used OPL for music... < 1254988767 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah it plays on opl2, but I think the data it plays is MIDI < 1254988795 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was converted from midi < 1254988799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1254988800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1254988826 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably converted. Playing MIDI with OPL2 would probably be too complicated for game... < 1254988883 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :midi isn't that complicated and they probably just licensed a playing engine from someone no? < 1254988930 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soundblaster fun: There are early and late versions of Soundblaster Pro. The first versions implemented stereo music by having dual OPL2s, one wired to left channel and one to right. The later models had one OPL3... < 1254988965 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder which models are more common < 1254988987 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the ones with OPL3... < 1254989063 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And its much easier to play music using OPL when data is already suitable for it and not having to parse MIDI. < 1254989124 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm it's true that you could pre-compute the register writes < 1254989136 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the file size would go up though < 1254989164 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No real need to have raw register writes, just something very close to how OPL does things... < 1254989258 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be something like cmf (.mid but with opl2 patches built in) < 1254989398 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC the later keens used IMF < 1254989398 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or other similar rare formats such as ".rol", whatever that is < 1254989399 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if filesize would be larger, I don't think it would be that critical. And besides, OPL sound data is nowhere near full PCM data in size... < 1254989467 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, IMF: http://www.vgmpf.com/Game.php?Id=CommanderKeen5-DOS < 1254989698 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, compared to formats with pcm it's light < 1254989726 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although complicated .mids (like, virt-complicated) can grow to 100k just from the note data < 1254989883 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@cpc2-acto6-0-0-cust48.brnt.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1254989883 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCM size depends on parameters used. But CD-quality is ~10.6MB/min and to even get decent sound, one needs ~2MB/min. < 1254989897 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's for raw pcm < 1254989925 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which they only really started to use when they had games on CDs so that they had the space < 1254989982 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, there are lossless packing formats that can squeeze it few times and lossy formats that can pack them a lot. But those require computer power to decode (at least Pentium-class). < 1254990019 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better to use ADPCM, which afaik a lot of psx games did < 1254990036 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CD-ROMs can also have music tracks. E.g. Quake 2 CD had music as ordinary CD music tracks (the CD had 11 tracks, track #1 was data, the rest where music). < 1254990066 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*were < 1254990115 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's always the intermediary format where you use samples as instruments and add in music data < 1254990188 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I've seen that before < 1254990212 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see: snes, psx games with sequenced music, some PC games, NDS games, etc) < 1254990337 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.STM, .S3M, .IT, .MOD, .XM, etc? < 1254990342 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1254990358 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the equivalent .mid + .dls < 1254990414 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn that I can't find Screamtracker 2 prerelease demo anywhere. Had some songs... < 1254990431 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody actually used scream tracker 2? :D < 1254990448 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, thence .STM files < 1254990458 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never used scream tracker 2, but used the prerelease demo... < 1254990584 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deewiant: I've only seen a few of those. They're rather outnumbered by .s3ms < 1254990598 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True enough < 1254990626 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently 42 in the mod archive < 1254990633 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vs. 8946 s3m's < 1254990681 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee.. Found rotate.stm. Now I need Screamtracker 3 to try to load and resave it into something that SDL_Mixer can actually play... < 1254990709 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you need to play it with SDL_Mixer :-P < 1254990824 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost all of that kind of music is mod/s3m/xm/it < 1254990844 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : .xm: 36919 < 1254990844 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : .mod: 69878 < 1254990894 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except a couple of .MTMs by kenny chou (which convert easily to s3m or at least xm) < 1254990905 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a lot of stuff is called .mod without being from protracker < 1254990918 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MTM outnumbers STM :-) < 1254990991 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For other rare ones, there's .ahx, .med, .669, .hvl < 1254991029 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's hvl? < 1254991033 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard issue music player I use uses SDL_Mixer (statically linked!) < 1254991035 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea < 1254991057 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, .okt is oktalyzer < 1254991068 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.mo3 was something too < 1254991077 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, HivelyTracker < 1254991125 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mo3 is mod/s3m/xm/it with samples compressed as mp3 < 1254991178 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ogg < 1254991207 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik it's proprietary to one of the playback libraries and hasn't really caught on too much < 1254991931 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't the name of audio codec Oggs usually use Vorbis? < 1254991979 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1254992014 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The usual video codec is Theora, but ocassionally one might run into Snow or Dirac as well.. < 1254992028 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in .ogg's) < 1254992144 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And regarding Dirac. SW Encoders seem to be crap and decoding seems very CPU-heavy. < 1254992188 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1254992213 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Snow doesn't even have stable bitstream yet. < 1254992361 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to the mpeg 7 (or was it 4?) audio thing... the one that was supposed to do synthesis and stuff? < 1254992671 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1254992760 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Did you count the .it's too? < 1254992792 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU-heavy => decoding 1080p/30 Dirac realtime requires pretty much all the CPU power (all cores) of current high-end PC. < 1254992848 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that's with quad-core)... < 1254992867 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1254992931 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254992953 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ilari: yeah, that's probably too cpu heavy < 1254993068 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : .s3m: 8612 < 1254993068 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : .it: 9925 < 1254993068 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : .xm: 36057 < 1254993068 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : .mod: 68762 < 1254993068 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Total: 123696 < 1254993078 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ^, Mod Archive 2007 < 1254993094 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, .it beats .s3m. < 1254993115 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next one is .mtm at 115. < 1254993142 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a gap. < 1254993146 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not related, but: good that I didn't release that rfk86-with-compression code; I just did some trivial optimizations to the single-bit reading, and got the innermost part from 28 bytes (109..136 cycles) to 16 bytes (73..107 cycles), and the multi-bit loop above that from 8 bytes (36..37 cycles) to 4 bytes (21 cycles). < 1254993151 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fractal distribution? < 1254993691 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1254993701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ehird still up? < 1254993709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1254993912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, fizzie: trying to compress music? < 1254993915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if so, why? < 1254993925 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1254993928 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :School -> < 1254993940 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; I did say "not related" there. < 1254993963 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what the music discussion was about, wasn't here when it started and I don't really bother with logreading. < 1254994178 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anyone interested in physical modeling synthesis? < 1254994978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neurons < 1254995882 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Radiateur" < 1254996468 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1254996549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i have cronic laziness < 1254996643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chronic < 1254996649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also chronic dropping keys < 1254996807 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-106-98.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1254996838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it took me three minutes just to open a terminal and cd Cod < 1254996840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/e/ < 1254997074 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1254997751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what suck? licenses < 1254997755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sucks, i guess < 1254997757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pluralise that < 1254997759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pluralifically < 1254997879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cr.yp.to/patents/tarzian.html < 1254997884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1254998061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" As you are probably aware, raisins and bran have different densities. < 1254998061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vigorous shaking of a box of raisin bran, such as the shaking that < 1254998061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : happens naturally during a truck shipment, will eventually separate the < 1254998062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : raisins from the bran, to the annoyance of the eventual raisin-bran < 1254998062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : consumer." < 1254998193 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1254998526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone made a table of all the printable ASCII x86 instructions? Alphabetical? Alphanumerical? < 1254998677 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1254998742 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just seen some ordered-by-opcode tables, which I guess could be used to find printable opcodes reasonably easily; I haven't seen anything that would list in an easy-to-read format what sort of operand encodings are possible, though. < 1254998794 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-nbxhtswslslwwayf JOIN :#esoteric < 1254998836 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ref.x86asm.net/coder.html is probably the most comprehensive ordered-by-opcode table I've seen. < 1254998935 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For actual printable-x86 coding, a ordered-by-mnemonic list of the valid regions would be a lot friendlier, of course. < 1254998975 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should write a script (or better yet, an XSLT stylesheet!) that transforms http://ref.x86asm.net/x86reference.xml into such a table. < 1254999038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i lied when i said tables, i hate tables < 1254999187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so xmxl < 1254999188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xml < 1254999432 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1254999454 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-ddiknywwjkqptvvi JOIN :#esoteric < 1255002395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries a little app where you tell it your indoor lighting, your location, and it adjusts your display's colour to account for the current lighting based on the brightness of the sun
< 1255002396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too cool. < 1255003209 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-38-163.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1255003475 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1255006783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87mcnpek I like how there's an outdent on the Windows key. no wait, it's retarded < 1255007461 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost never use that key since it's in such an awkward position anyway < 1255007474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still. < 1255007490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: BTW, you said the zero series filcos were dodgy; why? < 1255007523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't really care; if I can replace that Windows key (looks like the other modifiers are of equal size, so...) this thing is practically bought. < 1255007524 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, the key cchattering business. < 1255007531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah, I ssee. < 1255007565 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was an authentic chatter, too :-P < 1255007569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1255007593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Listening to some YouTube videos (you know, those incredibly accurate indicators of typing noise) it seems like the Majestouches go clack or cluck instead of click like, say, the Das Keyboard. (Hard to express, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9C7sNHjiAo for an example) < 1255007602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is nice, because I hate the high-pitched clicks my Model M makes. < 1255007636 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like browns < 1255007643 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe blacks < 1255007644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they're blues < 1255007653 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, odd < 1255007659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Videos of the actual model in question: < 1255007660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWn2N4kYHqk#t=1m15s < 1255007663 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the blues I've heard sound different :-P < 1255007670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zLzB3wHFh0 < 1255007685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, it's more clicky there, but still fine and besides, that can be chalked up to recording differences. < 1255007702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either way, the sound is perfectly cromulent. < 1255007713 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The previous link sounds like a blue, the one before that doesn't. < 1255007726 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last one does as well. < 1255007730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three links; clarirfy. < 1255007731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*clariffy < 1255007733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*clarify < 1255007739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talk about chattering! < 1255007749 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You think that'sss chattering? No, thhihsi iis scchatterinngn < 1255007755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow your keyboard sucks. < 1255007756 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AAAuthentiic) < 1255007757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the latter two links are of the exact same model, so I know for a fact < 1255007759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1255007765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the latter two links are of the exact same model, so I know for a fact that any differences are due to recording < 1255007784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they're similar enough to the first, accounting for the fact that the first is ubercompressed and appears to have been recorded shoddierly than the latter tow < 1255007786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*two < 1255007807 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm missing the high-pitched click in the first < 1255007807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I picked the first to demonstrate the general "cluck" sound deliberately, since it's more pronounced there, so as to contrast with the common "click". < 1255007813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first has none, that's the point. < 1255007819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They all are the same switches. < 1255007829 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You sure it's a blue? < 1255007831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saying that I prefer it to the Model M and the Das Keyboard, both of which click. < 1255007838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, source: < 1255007848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... DVD combo || Corsair 850 HX || M-Audio AV30 || Majestouch Tenkeyless Tactile Click "Otaku" -FKBN87MC/NPEK Cherry Blue Switch || logitech mx revolution ... < 1255007848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1034181502 - Cached - Similar - < 1255007849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ < 1255007851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6312 < 1255007857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but going from black to blue is almost like going from rubber dome to blacks for me. < 1255007866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also < 1255007867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87mcnpek < 1255007868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Blue" < 1255007874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I guess is, uh, rather more authoritative a souce < 1255007876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*source < 1255007900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, there's no imported models or whathoo, so I guess I'll have to dive into the Japanternets to find one. < 1255007903 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. I'll chalk it up to the recording; every blue I've heard sounds like the latter two. < 1255007925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I said: I realise that's why it sounds like that. < 1255007934 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://www.keyboardco.com/ doesn't have any? < 1255007938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the first is SIMILAR to the latter two; vastly moreso than their similarity to the clicky type. < 1255007943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I used it to demonstrate the cluck sound. < 1255007968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Your search for < 1255007968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FKBN87MC/NPEK < 1255007968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :returned no results < 1255007991 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, tenkeyless blue cherries < 1255007994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in their product list, either. < 1255007998 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's only in the USA < 1255008005 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elitekeyboards.com or whatever < 1255008009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they have no models < 1255008011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :available < 1255008012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of stock < 1255008017 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nowhere, then. < 1255008022 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only at elitekeyboards. < 1255008027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't even exist? Physically? < 1255008029 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was special-ordered by them. < 1255008032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's possible that the first video, being a different model (but still Majestouch), uses different switches. < 1255008040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Special-ordered == limited edition? < 1255008053 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. Only elitekeyboards.com has ever had them. < 1255008064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, now that they're out of stock, will they ever be brought back? < 1255008073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NO STOCK. Preorder available soon." < 1255008074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1255008074 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably, since I think there's high demand < 1255008085 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd get one if there were a 91-key model < 1255008086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if hovering money in their faces would help. :P < 1255008094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: And I'm glad their isn't! HA! < 1255008104 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Page closed" < 1255008116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A view into my OCD-filled mind: I am so tempted to get rid of those labels on the two LEDs and the FILCO logo. < 1255008122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want my completely black keyboard, dammit. < 1255008140 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The first video is browns according to the title < 1255008151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rightyho, I can't read moon language < 1255008155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's browns? Tactile but non-clicky? < 1255008159 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1255008172 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'm getting on monday. < 1255008174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Doesn't matter, anyway. < 1255008186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd classify the first link as cluck, the latter two as clack, and Model M/Das Keyboards as click. < 1255008205 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd want clicky for the fun factor but the Zs ssuscckc ass, so. < 1255008242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'd be interested to hear whether the non-clickiness impairs typing or the tactile feel (psychologically). < 1255008265 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the switches are different in more ways than clickiness < 1255008271 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the numpad with browns < 1255008275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, only the tactile clicks are available in Otaku (hate that name btw) so I'm not really tempted to get one of the other models./ < 1255008280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\/$// < 1255008291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *could* buy one of the non-Otakus and get Otaku keycaps, but really now. < 1255008304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'll have to get at least one keycap to remove that awful bump.) < 1255008322 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otaku = no text on the caps? Didn't see those at diatec.co.jp < 1255008374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. I guess it's only the socially inept nerds with a fondness for Japanese culture that like blank keycaps. < 1255008377 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't worry about the bump until after you've tried it < 1255008390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, come to think of it, I'm going to shut up; that's too close to a description of me for comfort. < 1255008395 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like said, I've remapped my keys so I hardly even use it. < 1255008401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I used another keyboard with the bump and it made me RAGE < 1255008402 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1255008429 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yessssss but that's not this keyboard < 1255008429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant has found his inner snake-nature. < 1255008432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: The bump on this one is even taller. < 1255008437 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to put only 3 or so but it ccchatttered < 1255008440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be like a pregnant key. < 1255008448 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I didn't care enough to backspace < 1255008462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I hit it a lot, maybe that'll be like giving it a key abortion < 1255008467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it flattens out; think jwz-style. < 1255008467 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I think you're more likely to be annoyed by the key's position than its bump < 1255008483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for instance, that key is useful in OS X to type special characters. < 1255008497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also as the most common extra modifier key along with command. < 1255008518 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repeat after me: WHAT THE KEYCAP SAYS MATTERS NOT < 1255008548 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just sayin'. I dunno. < 1255008555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, Deewiant < 1255008558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a physical bump < 1255008565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a key with the shape of a modifier key < 1255008569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could only sacrifice another modifier key for it < 1255008583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could swap one with the Menu key, but that still leaves one pregnant key. < 1255008601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the keycap doesn't say shit, you know, being blank and all. < 1255008627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't really care about the coolness factor but you *can* feel the label if you rub them slightly and they rub off anyway so might as well get it without, seeing as I don't need them.) < 1255008637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And, well, okay, I do care a little bit about the coolness factor.) < 1255008691 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course the bump won't go away < 1255008701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, that's an Issue. < 1255008706 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My point is that if you put something like the Menu key on it it won't matter. < 1255008719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, but there are two keys with the bump, and only one menu key, you see. < 1255008722 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you obsessively stare at your keyboard while on the computer, seeking any manner of blemish? < 1255008730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's the shape of a modifier key, you see. < 1255008738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there isn't really anything I could do about the other bumpy key. You see. < 1255008743 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ha, that's not an issue with the 91-key version. < 1255008749 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one bump here. < 1255008755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, your mother isn't an issue with the 91-key version. < 1255008812 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True! < 1255008826 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad my mom is an issue with your 87-key < 1255008830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pregnant key represents YOUR PREGNANT MOTHER < 1255008839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is an ISSUE < 1255008864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, a cat video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSMCRD35ch4 < 1255009022 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice one :-D < 1255009141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone made a keyboard capable of pressing every key at once successfully? < 1255009179 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to test < 1255009223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just press every key at once, dammit. < 1255009245 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lack the required amount of fingers :-P < 1255009253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use something to press them down. < 1255009293 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't wanna press ctrl+alt+del < 1255009302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test it on non-Windows < 1255009310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Ctrl+Alt+Backspace disabled < 1255009331 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not on windows, I don't wanna mess with settings just for this. < 1255009354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd need to write a program to tell whether you've hit all of them anyway < 1255009364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, Ubuntu ships that way by default. :P < 1255009405 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does Windows! < 1255009423 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhoo, arbitrary letters work well enough. < 1255009429 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :luyjcevtpsbdghnxckmi;f < 1255009430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO! < 1255009432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not acceptable. < 1255009518 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember that the TI-86 keyboard is pretty jam-free. (There's a key matrix, but it's scanned by software; you just write a bitmask of which rows you want to fire electricity into to port 6, then wait a couple of nops and read from port 6 back out a bitmap of which keys were pressed on those rows, all or'd together; there's no keyboard controller to turn it into keycodes that would mess it up.) < 1255009554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish elitekeyboards would tell you how much a keyboard cost while it was in stock. < 1255009571 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grep through geekhack.org. < 1255009575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=fkbn104mcnpek_special < 1255009579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess roughly $129. < 1255009587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Special Edition", "Special Limited Edition". < 1255009596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinkin': like fuck is the other one gonna be back iin stock. < 1255009603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereby like fuck means not < 1255009615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topre keyboards utilize silkly-smooth Topre Capacitive switch technology for the ultimate typing experience. < 1255009622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what capitative switches are like < 1255009645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se1700 < 1255009648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$256! < 1255009665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topre capacitive key switches are a patented hybrid between a mechanical spring based switch, a rubber dome switch, and a capacitive sensor < 1255009669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this abomination. < 1255009680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just why is it < 1255009709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loooooooooooool < 1255009716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87mceb the non-otaku version is limited edition too\ < 1255009724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess preorder available soon is yay. < 1255009738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87meb the one you're getting in 91 key < 1255009770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why nobody is a mouse geek, like there are keyboard geeks :P < 1255009808 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yes, it is. < 1255009821 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fkbn91m/nb IIRC < 1255009858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :question < 1255009863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why aren't all wireless mice bluetooth < 1255009867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aloso keyboards < 1255009868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*also < 1255010015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone used a fancy mousemat < 1255010019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like those glass ones < 1255010026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or those weird textured ones < 1255010029 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1255010065 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've a glass one < 1255010073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind, is it any good < 1255010088 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steelseries something or other < 1255010100 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modern microcontroller could control similar process in real keyboard. But that would take few dollars of extra components... :-/ < 1255010103 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's better than the crap cloth ones I used to use :-P < 1255010109 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*few dollars worth < 1255010111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But isn't it, like, slippery? < 1255010120 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255010122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you'd think some friction would be good. < 1255010136 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not ice :-P < 1255010144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but it's still glass. < 1255010153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's still really smooth. < 1255010169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... the pictures look quite grainy. < 1255010173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it tre < 1255010175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ated? < 1255010182 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Treated? < 1255010204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, presumably it isn't the kind of glass in glasses and window panes. < 1255010209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the pictures look too grainy for that. < 1255010214 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's crap on it I wipe or scratch it off < 1255010229 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how I treat it ;-) < 1255010232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1255010236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a joke right < 1255010242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean how is the glass' texture < 1255010255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently they're "frosted glass", but that's rather vague < 1255010255 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was an intentional misunderstanding of "treated", yes < 1255010267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifications for SteelSeries Experience I-2: < 1255010267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Material: Glass < 1255010268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Surface treatment: Trade secret < 1255010275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you, steelseries.com < 1255010283 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not surprising :-P < 1255010306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, what's the feel of it? I mean, I'm not asking a hard question here. Running your finger over, is it silky smooth, like sandpaper or what :P < 1255010310 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smooth < 1255010315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silky? < 1255010320 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1255010323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then howforth is it becometh frosted < 1255010332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THESE QUESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO SOCIETY < 1255010339 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trade secret < 1255010356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You suck :P < 1255010356 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything about glass. < 1255010367 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frosted_glass < 1255010369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you don't have a sense of touch. Aight then < 1255010378 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said it's smooth, what else do you want < 1255010391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so it's regular glass smooth, the frosting is just so it's not transparent. < 1255010401 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barring any accumulated dirt and shit it's completely smooth < 1255010420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehh, this conversation is less productive than the $39.99 it costs :-P < 1255010429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that they have so many, strikes indecision in a person and whatnot. < 1255010435 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, this is annoying < 1255010441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aa! You scared me. < 1255010443 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find a place where you can try 'em < 1255010447 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting a flood of 419s, and legitimate emails disguised as 419s < 1255010450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: In... the UK? < 1255010453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by using similar subject lines < 1255010460 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Hey, I found one in /Finland/. < 1255010469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Finland, the home of Assembly. < 1255010480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this debate about? < 1255010480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Britain, the home of RAIN AND BAD FOOD. < 1255010487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: We're not debating, actually! < 1255010488 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish we had more rain < 1255010490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A refreshing change. < 1255010491 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, discussion < 1255010498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Expensive mouse pads. < 1255010499 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I rather like rain < 1255010516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, $39.99 10" x 12" mouse pads made out of ice. < 1255010517 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain is the best possible weather < 1255010521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1255010522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glass. < 1255010525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although ice WOULD be cooler. < 1255010526 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Finland, where computer-parts are 10x more unpossible to find than in the UK. < 1255010534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOME < 1255010534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OF < 1255010535 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ice mouse pad would need some sort of refrigeration < 1255010535 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ice would be funny < 1255010537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASSEMBLY < 1255010537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1255010553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Just use the phase change coolers all the overclockers use < 1255010556 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There're other parties. < 1255010566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hook a CPU up to it, hook a mousemat up to it. Brr! < 1255010567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: heh, you could use a saltwater-ice phase change cooler < 1255010573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to cool your water-ice mousepad < 1255010585 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't think of any in the UK tho. < 1255010587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even seen a picture of a CPU hooked up to a phase changer cooler? < 1255010588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's surreal < 1255010594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't < 1255010619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, imagine a large refridgerator unit, a really thick cable going into a computer case, which then ends up in a huge block of metal < 1255010633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the juxtaposition of crazy refrigeration equipment / motherboard is fun < 1255010651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gomeler.com/pic/Articles/Vapor%20Phase%20Change%20Cooling/finishedunit.jpg < 1255010690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/282/compressor.jpg Cryopreservation equipment or computer cooler? You decide < 1255010708 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOTH. < 1255010765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It cools both Eliezer Yudkowsky's corpse and his über-rad overclocked i7 rig for when he reawakens in thousands of years. < 1255010792 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but when that happens, his computer will almost certainly be obsolete < 1255010813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He'll just overclock it to 1,000 GHz or something using their new cooling systems. < 1255010844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Powered by a Dyson Sphere circling around a cold star! < 1255010852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a star, but really cold. < 1255010855 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amusing idea < 1255010866 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never upgrade your CPU, only the cooler, and overclock it < 1255010894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently running a tricked-out 8086 < 1255010952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I use felt mouse pads because the plastic ones scratch optical mice :( < 1255010966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glass + laser mouse should be pretty rad. < 1255010979 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if, say, a 5GHz 80386, could hold a candle to today's CPUs < 1255010995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost certainly. < 1255011005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as serial processing goes, that is. < 1255011024 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lacking pipelines, caches, all that shit? < 1255011031 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure < 1255011038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 ghz can surely compete with an Atom. < 1255011046 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just add more gigahertzies. < 1255011049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And an Atom ain't nothin' to be sniffed at. < 1255011058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, let's stop rambling and DO THIS SHIT. < 1255011064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have a phase change cooler? < 1255011066 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I am not so sure you can get a 5 GHz 80386 no matter how cold you make it. < 1255011076 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am quite sure that it is impossible. < 1255011098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY < 1255011125 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could petition Intel to do a 5 GHz 80386 clone, though. < 1255011152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O-kayyyy, so it seems like the only way to get an MX Revolution is by buying a combo-pack of it and a shitty keyboard. < 1255011164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they just forgot to discontinue the latter or something. < 1255011187 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_rate#Limits < 1255011223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are a horrible person :( < 1255011236 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Logitech MX Revolution Cordless", 74 eur from the local e-retailer with no keyboards attached. < 1255011264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it's not actually on their official site, I mean. < 1255011265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is odd. < 1255011271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, is that Bluetooth? < 1255011281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't use to be Bluetooth. < 1255011295 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't look like it's Bluetooth now either; at least according to the retailer's description. < 1255011311 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Full-Speed USB connection for the receiver" is listed there. < 1255011316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is in http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard_mice_combos/devices/3481&cl=us,en < 1255011326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR RETAILER IS SELLING OUTDATED COMMIE GOODS < 1255011357 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a "product information" link to some logitech.com URL that is dead now. < 1255011360 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So looks very likely. < 1255011378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very queer; it *is* awfully popular. < 1255011533 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have a.. uh, I think it was called "MX 510"; when I went to replace it (since it had started to do automatical double-clicking) it had also disappeared, and the closest thing seemed to be a MX 518 "gaming mouse". < 1255011567 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't make myself buy anything that said "gaming" so openly, had to get a MX400 or something, which was decidedly inferior. < 1255011594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the MX Revolution has like 70 buttons, lets youua charge yah lazer, and lets you make the scrollwheel slide instead of click < 1255011597 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1255011602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it has that freaky contour thing < 1255011604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems pretty neato. < 1255011637 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're still selling the MX518 gaming thing, it seems. < 1255011660 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That G9x looks pretty silly. < 1255011681 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1255011681 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laser weaponry < 1255011681 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every movement registers accurately thanks to the next-generation gaming laser.*" < 1255011686 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, there's a gaming laser in it. < 1255011713 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can use it to shoot at people. < 1255011746 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got an MX518. < 1255011830 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, I have nothing against gaming and even use it for gaming. < 1255011832 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It looks not terribly different from the MX510 -- http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/4259&cl=us,en vs. http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0001YGIB0 < 1255011845 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apparently the MX510 has been retroactively branded as a "gaming mouse" too. < 1255011910 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They (Logitech) don't seem to be doing very many corded models nowadays. < 1255012029 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the difference is pretty much just in the DPI < 1255012210 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this "Logitech® Darkfield Laser Tracking™"? It sounds very sci-fi. < 1255012331 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beats me < 1255012738 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read that as "darkified" < 1255012753 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made me chuckle. < 1255012781 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read your "darkified" as "dork friend" < 1255012814 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chuckled mentally after realizing it was a double misread < 1255012822 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read your "dork friend" as "dork fried" < 1255012829 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you didn't < 1255012834 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I didn't, but I thought this misread-fest needed another layer :P < 1255012834 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's lying someone tell him it's bad < 1255012858 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well misreading is great fun < 1255012876 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: lying is bad for you, it'll cause your teeth to fall out! < 1255012884 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I like my teeth D-8 < 1255012894 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then stop it! < 1255012902 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I also like lying! < 1255012908 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may like lying more than my teeth! < 1255012927 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot have your cake and eat it. at least not without teeth. < 1255012972 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i'm eating garlic favored food, high five! < 1255012979 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1255012985 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: were you setting us up for that? < 1255012989 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: from a safe distance < 1255012998 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that was for the garlic < 1255013031 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, the last pun was just a lucky opportunity < 1255013052 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost want to give the dog some g, she once ate a piece of onion, then tried to cough it out for about half an hour < 1255013066 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wicked, wicked man < 1255013070 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if garlic does something interesting too < 1255013084 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm not actually doing it, so i'm just once wicked < 1255013092 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wicked, wicked is when you actually do it. < 1255013096 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns dogs into vampires. or something like that. < 1255013197 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wicked cricket wicket < 1255013427 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually just pan-fry garlic in olive oil and eat it. < 1255014298 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... why does Wikipedia not have an article on "over 9000"? < 1255014338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how on earth am I meant to figure out what memes mean without Wikipedia's help? < 1255014349 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I tried Google, but none of the search results are sites I'd feel comfortable visiting) < 1255014484 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: urban dictionary is safe enough afaik < 1255014498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it's been rather patchy < 1255014499 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree about encyclopedia dramatica though... < 1255014528 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i suppose if you cannot stand reading about sexual slang... < 1255014539 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even accidentally < 1255014548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or would get in trouble for accessing it from a University connectoin < 1255014565 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1255014611 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asexuality: Where our motto is, "We don't need no fuckin' slang" < 1255014645 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: either you are paranoid, or you need to start a revolution. take your pick. < 1255014814 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowyourmeme.com seems useful < 1255014818 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :urbandictionary is horrible < 1255014830 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah lots of fake entries < 1255014846 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1255014870 0 :Gregor!n=gregor@65.183.185.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255014875 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well first of all there are pretty much no decent entries < 1255014894 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody received this, but I said: < 1255014896 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asexuality: Where our motto is, "We don't need no fuckin' slang" < 1255014902 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we got that < 1255014906 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET IT? GET IT? < 1255014906 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's funnier the second time < 1255014919 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's so massively complex < 1255014937 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it implodes in a black hole. thus the disconnect. < 1255014939 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me get my calculator < 1255015023 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*into < 1255015177 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, "let me get into my calculator"? < 1255015226 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. it doesn't have enough memory for uploading anyway. < 1255015840 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1255016197 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: i'm eating garlic favored food, high five! <-- yay < 1255016218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the spelling < 1255016243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume that was supposed to be "flavoured") < 1255016244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1255016638 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255017692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, btw why did you port that game? < 1255017753 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, and what about TI-83+? Could you port it to that too? < 1255017810 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TI-83+ was already done, wasn't it? < 1255017871 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is robotfindskitten, btw? < 1255017903 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A game/toy < 1255017914 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255017945 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wander around walking into things until you "find kitten". The value is in the amusing messages. < 1255017949 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1255017959 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're basically aiming for the same location as the kitten < 1255017965 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't know where the kitten is < 1255017969 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hesitate to call it a game since you can't lose) < 1255017991 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't lose in many nomics, but they're considered games < 1255018030 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't really /do/ much either, AFAICT. < 1255018039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, you could make a highscore for number of moves needed? < 1255018048 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could equally well read "less messages.txt". < 1255018077 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: A random number generator, yay < 1255018181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1255018274 0 :jix!n=jix@g224144044.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1255020612 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-156-195-201.range86-156.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255021021 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255022696 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255022893 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255022933 0 :jix!n=jix@g224144044.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1255023258 0 :augur!n=augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1255024673 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I ported it to the TI-86 because it was the only thing I had to which it had not yet been ported. < 1255024683 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a TI-83+/TI-84+ port exists already, yes. < 1255024689 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: port it to your microwave < 1255024691 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or your toaster < 1255024702 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1255024835 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the only easily programmable thing. (I was going to say "the only thing that can easily run it", but I guess my camera, printer, and things like that should be quite able to run it, if their manufacturers just wouldn't have wanted to discourage reprogramming them so much.) < 1255024852 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do toasters that run software actually exist? < 1255024865 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1255024868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least one doe < 1255024870 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*does < 1255024889 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructed specifically for that purpose? :-P < 1255024909 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have only seen custom-hardware-that-does-toast-thing; I don't think I've seen a commercial toaster that would've been programmable. < 1255024948 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.embeddedarm.com/software/arm-netbsd-toaster.php < 1255024951 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do those "burn a picture to your bread" toasters, one like that with a programmable heat element configuration would be nice. < 1255025021 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, we're definitely not planning on going into full production with this." < 1255025028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, sucks if you prefer lightly toasted bread :P < 1255025053 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some sort of food-colouring-dye inkjet printer, then. < 1255025061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1255025095 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that would probably saturate the "I found Jesus/Virgin Mary in my [insert a food item]" market. < 1255025099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab < 1255025266 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and I may get a power supply for that web server laptop soon; today there was a "tried to deliver your mail today at X but couldn't fit an envelope in the mail slot, come pick it up from the post office tomorrow" note left here. < 1255025299 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the oaster in question was slashdotted < 1255025302 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*toaster < 1255025311 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, the website describing the toaster actually runs on the toaster < 1255025320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone linked it on Slashdot, and the toaster couldn't cope < 1255025418 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I remember that happening. "Sorry, you can't have toast today; the toaster is slashdotted." < 1255025573 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit funny the way the computer e-tailer here truncates all large numbers to the text "over 25" in the availability details. "Over 25 units at the main warehouse, of which over 25 have been reserved. Over 25 free. On the shelf at the Helsinki store over 25 units, at the Pirkkala store over 25 units, and at the Oulu store over 25 units." < 1255025630 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Last received: over 25 units, Monday 5.10.2009." < 1255025657 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did it not change the 2009? < 1255025746 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that would be a good idea. "Out of stock: available October over 25, over 25." < 1255025764 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1255025778 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255025851 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, where is that? < 1255025891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively I guess the question: 'What is a "computer e-tailer"?' may work < 1255026012 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Short for "e-retailer", a shop that peddles their wares mostly over the interwebs. < 1255026017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1255026057 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though truthfully I have no way of knowing how much of their business happens over the web, and how much the physical brick-and-mortar stores count for. They used to have only one of those, but now they have three, so it can't be completely unprofitable. < 1255026068 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd link, but I don't think they have anything in English. < 1255026333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh.... what the hell just happened < 1255026349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for reference: My monitor is TFT with VGA connector only. < 1255026353 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes the company-info-page "Vi betjänar också på svenska! We offer service also in English! Обслуживаем на русском языке!" a bit lierrific, since it seems to be the only non-Finnish bit there. < 1255026365 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: we need more context to know wtf just happened < 1255026370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a second ago everything flickered like it needed that "auto" button to be pressed. Then went back to normal < 1255026380 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: degaussing < 1255026383 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1255026385 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, in a TFT? < 1255026390 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, missed that < 1255026391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never ever happened before afaik < 1255026406 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was happening on the computer at the time? < 1255026434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, kpatience and IRC. konsole open in the background, nothing major going on as far as I can tell < 1255026455 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1255026472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no cron jobs as far as I can tell by logs either < 1255026502 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cron job to interrupt the display signal momentarily sounds like a rather useless one. < 1255026523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah, but possibly something going on could have caused issues. Possibly < 1255026562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the auto tune goes slowly unfocused over time, but that tends to be gradual rather than sudden. And it doesn't tend to get back then. (you have to press auto on monitor) < 1255026603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a matter of fact, the gradual unfocusing issues has been getting more common during the last few months < 1255026612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope nothing is about to break... < 1255026689 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analog is so pre-Common-Era anyway. < 1255026726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my monitor isn't THAT old. 2006 or so I think. < 1255026741 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe early 2007 even < 1255026811 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you really have no excuse. :p < 1255026836 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, for what? < 1255026864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, and yes I do, because at that time I had a graphics card with only VGA connector < 1255026867 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For still having a blurry needs-tuning analog wire between the computer and the monitor, of course. < 1255026872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :later on that card broke < 1255026887 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well the monitor *doesn't* have a DVI connector < 1255026894 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that is quite a good excuse I think < 1255026910 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it just means there's no excuse for having that sort of monitor. < 1255026939 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255026949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well the old one broke and I urgently needed a replacement, wasn't able to wait a week or so for one to be delivered. Had to get it same day. < 1255026965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus I had to take one in the only store within reasonable distance < 1255026981 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that makes some sort of sense. < 1255027034 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which reminds me, I'd sure like to get that monitor back. The service tracking system status had changed to "[green blob] Ready" yesterday, but now they seem to be just keeping it for the fun of it. < 1255027053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh they repaired it rather than replacing it? < 1255027105 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't know what happens there, all I get is the event log, which just has entries like "received at the service centre" and "being worked on" and now "ready". < 1255027124 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess their "ready" could mean "it's dead and we can't do anything about it" too. < 1255027175 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, the TFT size categories at the store (the one I've been talking out, it being my default place for hardware-browsing) nowadays go up to 82". < 1255027176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I hope you mentioned that you needed same height for multihead setup? And about that dead pixel warranty < 1255027184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, whoa < 1255027188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is such a large one? < 1255027192 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not just one: there's four 82" TFT's, all 1920x1080. < 1255027197 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really meant for "home use". < 1255027198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1255027204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is rather low DPI < 1255027217 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's more for info-screen-at-a-public-place type of thing. < 1255027223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is the aspect ratio? < 1255027232 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even better: physical dimensions < 1255027235 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also from 45711.90 to 59627.90 eur; not very cheap. < 1255027274 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, well, 82" is 82" 'physically'; I don't know about the depth. < 1255027278 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255027287 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well, width and height < 1255027298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on if it is 4:3 or 16:9 that will vary quite a bit < 1255027311 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt anyone will do non-square pixels nowadays. < 1255027315 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 1920x1080 is 16:9. < 1255027321 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah true < 1255027339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, sure they do. OLPC uses some weird pixel placement iirc < 1255027339 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They eat 1 kW of electricity, heh. < 1255027353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, whoa < 1255027355 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 59627.90 EUR one is also a touchscreen. < 1255027362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why on earth is that useful < 1255027385 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for an information kiosk type of thing where you want to display something huge. < 1255027428 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, issue is that if you are standing close enough to touch it, it is too large to be easy to read on and/or will look quite bad due to low DPI < 1255027493 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 23 DPI. I guess that's pretty low. < 1255027530 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weight: 140 kg. Not very portable either. < 1255027551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, great if you want to put it high on a wall to display (for example) arriving and departing trains < 1255027618 0 :jix!n=jix@g224144044.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1255027631 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess the touchscreen could be useful when it starts displaying a bluescreen (which seems sadly common for such public announcement displays...) < 1255027697 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't really say what the touch thing is good for. < 1255027748 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could be used in some sort of application where you have that thing in a conference room wall, looked at a reasonable distance, but want to allow the presenter to interact with it without having to use any sort of remote or pointer device or anything. < 1255027760 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's this model, fwiw: http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=itbusiness&type=monitors&subtype=lcd&model_cd=LH82TCTMBC/EN < 1255028013 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some sort of built-in support for making a 5x5 video wall out of those, but probably not everyone has 1.25 million to spend on 25 monitors at 50 grand each. < 1255028164 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... they also sell this 4.5" LCD "monitor" that is packaged into a shape that resembles the rear view mirror of a car. The product description says "*for example* for the enthusiast looking for the perfect car driving game experience". I can't really figure out what else it could really be good for. < 1255028213 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The description also proudly advertises that you can attach it to a regular rear view mirror, but that sounds pretty much illegal to me. At least assuming you're then going to go driving. < 1255028241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1255028417 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that it's not even good for that car game scenario, since the screen seems to have some sort of 4:3 aspect ratio with huge borders. < 1255028428 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.verkkokauppa.com/productimages/orig/32318_01.jpg < 1255028430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1255028476 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's a bit wider than 4:3, but it's still not what you'd see in a real mirror. < 1255028621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah that is just sill y < 1255028624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly* < 1255028654 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it costs >200 eur. < 1255028670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 200 EUR to SEK < 1255028671 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :200 Euros = 2 057.66135 Swedish kronor < 1255028676 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1255028693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, DIY would be cheaper and look better < 1255028767 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably; although I'm not aware of any consumer-oriented retailers for small display panels; still, I guess you should be able to buy one. < 1255028896 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever felt like you'd really want a numpad also in your mouse? http://www.verkkokauppa.com/productimages/orig/94345_01.jpg < 1255028993 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1255029041 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1255029222 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was a joke at razer's expense, but it turns out it's actually real. < 1255029255 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess the numpad thing was a joke. < 1255029286 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga < 1255029310 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it just has programmable buttons. < 1255029332 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they're targeting it for the MMO crowd. < 1255029352 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since they're programmable, I'm sure you can configure them to act as a numpad. < 1255029524 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Maximum Comfort for Long Gaming Sessions < 1255029524 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Game for days with the Razer Naga’s ergonomic design, optimized for easy access to every button." Could you then sue them when you die of dehydration after "gaming for days" with the mouse? (Discounting for now the logistics of suing them when you're dead.) < 1255029540 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they have a disclaimer, or a warning message. < 1255029631 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of those "virtual reality helmets" had the rather amusing "don't use while skiing" warning. < 1255029894 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@p5B132951.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255030244 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there goes my holiday plan. < 1255030346 0 :Sgeo[ERC]!n=user@137.125.41.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255030359 0 :Sgeo[ERC]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think I interested a classmate in emacs < 1255030470 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sort of interested in emacs, except I'd rather use vim < 1255030490 0 :Sgeo[ERC]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does vim have syntax hilighting for SQL/ < 1255030491 0 :Sgeo[ERC]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1255030505 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Or if it doesn't, you can find it. < 1255030512 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I haven't really tried vim yet either < 1255030519 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's pretty irrelevant < 1255030546 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kate has SQL syntax highlighting, though it < 1255030557 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1255030558 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though it's written for standard SQL so variants lik eMySQL don't always work so hot < 1255030573 0 :Sgeo[ERC]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our class edits sql files on the school's Linux server over ssh < 1255030584 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get X forwarding :D < 1255030661 0 :Sgeo[ERC]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I knew how, that would waste a lot of the school's bandwidth < 1255030747 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1255031656 0 :Sgeo[ERC]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255032399 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-19-14.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1255032896 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course there's SQL syntax highlighting in Vim. < 1255032898 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fis@eris:/usr/share/vim/vim72/syntax$ ls sql* < 1255032898 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlanywhere.vim sqlforms.vim sqlinformix.vim sqlj.vim sqloracle.vim sql.vim < 1255032928 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a couple of specific variants. < 1255033011 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, it should be flavored < 1255033019 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck have i started making typos < 1255033037 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255033051 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: numpad mouse is not symmetric, i couldn't live with that < 1255033079 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: Buy two, mirror one and tape them together. < 1255033454 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255033497 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait "mirror one"? < 1255034152 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeeeees, I'm not quite sure how you're supposed to implement that, it just sounded like the sort of primitive operation that should be supported. < 1255034173 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as transformations go, you can't get much simpler. < 1255034421 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's simple given an extra dimension < 1255034455 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have those? < 1255034481 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that a configurable value? I'm sure you can change it by tweaking some dot-file. < 1255034723 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://pastie.org/647390 < 1255036175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok, isn't that kind of standard nowdays? < 1255036390 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what? < 1255036411 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-symmetry, extra dimensions, typos? < 1255036480 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume the first one, that seems to be rather standard nowadays < 1255036483 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't make it less stupid < 1255036746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok, the middle one < 1255036778 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok, anyway who would use a numpad for a mouse? < 1255037045 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mumorpuger players. < 1255037056 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it isn't really a "numpad" in that case, though. < 1255037073 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you want, you can consider it a numpad in the mouse, the actions of which have just been rebound. < 1255037080 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the right shape for a numpad. < 1255037087 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, more or less. < 1255037163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Mumorpuger players. <-- huh? < 1255037197 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one way of pronouncing "MMORPG". < 1255037300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1255037315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway how is a numpad asymetric? < 1255037327 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mouse itself is. < 1255037328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well apart from the larger + enter and 0/ins keys < 1255037343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, err... how did you map the keys then < 1255037363 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, what? < 1255037378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I think I must have completely misunderstood you < 1255037387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that wasn't clear < 1255037391 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly. < 1255037408 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a numpad on a mouse. You know. Like, a 3x4 grid of buttons, on the side of a physical pointer device. < 1255037420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, aren't you talking about the "map mouse to numpad" accessibility thingy? < 1255037424 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1255037435 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were talking about http://www.verkkokauppa.com/productimages/orig/94345_01.jpg < 1255037460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wth < 1255037489 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And *that* is a mouse that's been targeted to the MMO-game crowd. < 1255037495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1255037559 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume they bind various sorts of actions to those buttons. Grinding is somehow involved. Ding. You "aggro" pulleys, and DFP is.. a flat panel screen? Tanks are involved. I'm very confused about the jargon they use. < 1255037604 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess it was DPS and not DFP. Close enough. < 1255037801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh... < 1255037807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1255037839 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1255037890 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this torrent is bizzare < 1255037897 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my client's borked < 1255038250 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cessu.blogspot.com/2008/09/have-you-listened-to-your-program-today.html < 1255038427 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't they make some sort of crypto-side-channel-attack based on recording the audio signals caused by the computer? < 1255038435 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google at least has some hits for "Acoustic Side Channel Attacks" < 1255038464 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I recall something like that. < 1255039007 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The song's a bit monotonous. < 1255039013 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I see commercial potential in it. < 1255039912 0 :Halph!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1255039993 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1255039995 0 :Halph!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :coppro < 1255041167 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255041522 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just found out that GNU Make can't handle spaces in filenames.
< 1255041528 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... Awful. < 1255041774 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it that someone can actually screw up freaking specifying a dependency tree? < 1255041971 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graph theory is hard... < 1255042038 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apparently quoting is harder. < 1255042265 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can quote spaces in targets with a \\. < 1255042285 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it doesn't work everywhere, there's a lot of functions that just look at space-separated lists. < 1255042337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does no good when you're writing an implicit rule... < 1255042458 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255043465 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255043579 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1255044783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1255044813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just want to confirm that F.lux is amazing < 1255044838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colours post-sunset looked amazingly orange in daylight... but now they're perfect < 1255045120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:05] ais523: (I tried Google, but none of the search results are sites I'd feel comfortable visiting) < 1255045120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :block images, click encyclopediadramatica link, ignore "fag" etc, profit on even the most obscurest meme from obscureville < 1255045139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ED, contrary to popular opinion, is not a shock site; it's a vulgar compendium of internet culture < 1255045503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:03] AnMaster: fizzie, sucks if you prefer lightly toasted bread :P < 1255045503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MILDLY BROWN! MILDLY BROWN! < 1255045504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:08] fizzie: Have you ever felt like you'd really want a numpad also in your mouse? http://www.verkkokauppa.com/productimages/orig/94345_01.jpg < 1255045504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with programmable buttons for gamers < 1255045504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:36] Sgeo[ERC]: Our class edits sql files on the school's Linux server over ssh < 1255045505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use tramp < 1255045507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :([19:34] Sgeo[ERC]: Does vim have syntax hilighting for SQL/ < 1255045509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop trying to interest people in editors) < 1255045511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:40] oklokok: well it's simple given an extra dimension < 1255045513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:40] oklokok: do you have those? < 1255045515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time. < 1255045515 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255045517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAM! 11 LINES OF SPEW < 1255045537 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1255045631 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: CHARLIE BROWN < 1255045652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BURMA SHAVE < 1255045654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1255045655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat you to it < 1255045661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cessu.blogspot.com/2008/09/have-you-listened-to-your-program-today.html [from earlier] < 1255045666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that music < 1255045671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would make good drone metal, sort of thing < 1255045674 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot beat me when i'm not running in the same direction! < 1255045695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or experimental electronic music < 1255045718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I WANT SOMETHING DISTINGUISHABLE FROM A PROGRAM EXECUTING! DAMN AVANT-GARDE COMPOSERS < 1255045771 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ([19:34] Sgeo[ERC]: Does vim have syntax hilighting for SQL/ < 1255045778 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, yes < 1255045786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was answered earlier < 1255045791 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1255045809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if he's responding to "vim is better than emacs" with "can vim highlight SQL" he should *really* not be extolling the virtues of certain editors to people < 1255046002 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim can highlight SQL :P < 1255046031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT IMAGINE IF IT COULDN'T BY DEFAULT! < 1255046032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITNESS: < 1255046038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Benefits of emacs: can highlight SQL < 1255046045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Benefits of vim: Some people like it more < 1255046050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think I'll stick to emacs < 1255046115 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255046160 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best. < 1255046161 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Benefits. < 1255046162 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :List. < 1255046163 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever. < 1255046213 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The French guy who is the only other bastion of vim in my research group is fleeing back to France, leaving me alone against a cadre of emacsen. < 1255046237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: Those three lines are, in fact, parody < 1255046249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just in case; it's quite hard to tell < 1255046263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, is it just me or are "gaming mice" regular mice with weights? < 1255046290 0 :augur!n=augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255046295 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaming mice should be able to traverse small labyrinths, me thinks < 1255046307 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I have a pseudofriend who has a gaming mouse that actually has removable/replaceable weights X_X < 1255046314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's most of them. < 1255046319 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I didn't know that. < 1255046319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not unreasonable, in fact, if a little excessive. < 1255046323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not most of them. < 1255046332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But most of Razer's, I'd wager, and Logitech's higher-end ones. < 1255046348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it beats having multiple mice. Of course, it only matters if you're good to start with.