00:00:21 Well, the things listed there don't necessarily happen all the time. Like, the part about the water and the "fix you with a hungry stare" don't necessarily apply if it is the result of a transformation. 00:00:28 Well that's reassuring! 00:03:35 night -> 00:05:45 They is a mixed of cristacean, insect, and serpent. They have claws, and yes there is tentacles in their mouth. But mostly I selected this one there is STR 20, but other things can help too, speed size attack armor class, type "Large Aberration (Aquatic)". You do not have to live only in the water. 00:06:12 I was trying to push over an altar, actually. (I thought something we were looking for was underneath the altar) 00:06:12 17:00:16 Like, you mean just smash everything? 00:06:13 17:00:44 Yes. 00:06:13 :D 00:06:23 (some inbetween comments elided for humour) 00:06:32 But, we didn't find that, but we did found three plain silver rings. 00:07:33 One NPC said "We need to find the sword in here to return it to the king, now, where is it hidden?" I say, "Well, obviously it is underneath the altar. We just need to move the altar." 00:08:31 My brother had some good ideas too, his character is a human ninja, and he decided to go to ethereal plane to see where is the door of the castle, to see if it is in the ethereal plane. It is half-way in, I don't know why. 00:08:50 you can see into the material plane from the ethereal 00:08:55 although not interact with it 00:09:08 O, I know all the rules about the ethereal plane. 00:09:27 anyway, castles are generally useless if ethereal ttravel exists 00:09:40 How's the food on the ethereal plane? 00:09:44 However, something strange happened, the castle is half way into the ethereal plane and half way into the material plane, which is a bit weird. However, dimension dooring into the castle it is just like normal inside 00:09:46 there isn't any, IIRC 00:09:46 -!- FireFly has quit ("Later"). 00:09:47 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:09:47 it's mostly empty 00:10:03 ais523: The travel better be damn quick or I'll stick to first class. 00:10:05 D&D castle-makers rarely take the physics of the world into account... 00:12:05 O, ninja can go to ethereal plane for one round, just by a special ability. 00:12:12 I'm sof unny. 00:12:14 *so funny 00:17:34 ais523: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8259154.stm 00:18:15 ehird: I know that one already 00:18:16 ais523: the BBC are trying to punish set top boxes based on Linux by encrypting the programming list for their HD content since it's illegal to encrypt the content... 00:18:20 and it's more complicated than the article makes it 00:18:32 well if the BBC say they're doing something I'm sure they are :P 00:23:21 -!- CESSMASTER has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 00:32:34 18:44:27 "Something else you should know is that they are also very honest people whereas you rarely won't get any lies from them because of their honesty." 00:32:34 reading the article Dating People With Aspergers, I see 00:34:40 it's very hard for someone with Asperger's to understand that a lie might be the best course of action 00:35:32 he was commenting on the awkwardness of the grammar; I just googled it to find the source and found it amusing 00:35:58 also, that has an incorrect double negative, I think 00:36:06 they mean "rarely will" or "mostly won't" 00:36:28 although fwiw if asperger's does actually refer to one atomic, well-defined condition and my tentative diagnosis of it by a professional is correct (both of which I doubt) then I find the sentence to be bullshit 00:37:10 something like saying they're more principled/ethical and would avoid lying in almost all cases would probably be more accurate 00:37:13 diagosing asperger's is hard 00:37:28 I mean, I've been diagnosed with it too; most of this channel probably has 00:37:58 I haven't been diagnosed with it as something officially delivered to me, just almost-certainly-probably but I'm fairly sure there'll be a medical record somewhere denoting "Aspergers". 00:38:41 It seems to me that society was looking for a way to go "there, all the nerds actually do have something wrong with them", found the work of Asperger and warped and muddied its definition sufficiently to work. 00:39:22 yes 00:39:32 the number of Asperger's diagnoses has gone up massively recently 00:39:42 I think it's an increase in misdiagnoses, rather than an increase in the syndrome 00:39:53 I'm Asperger, too. 00:40:40 ais523: for a sufficiently wide definition of recently I agree 00:40:47 on the order of decades 00:40:53 yes 00:41:42 I think that with some of the definitions that go around, you need Asperger's Syndrome to be any good at programming 00:41:45 I haven't read the original work but I doubt it says anything like "anyone intelligent, focused on one subject and socially reclusive has a different brain structure" 00:41:52 ais523: agreed 00:42:14 although one thing I do find interesting is that one of the "symptoms" is being unusually annoyed by high-pitch noises 00:42:26 that's ridiculous 00:42:27 and that would have no obvious correlation to the other commonly-stated traits, yet it's ture of me 00:42:31 *true of me 00:42:38 if anything it follows from being attentive 00:42:43 and having good senses 00:43:00 coppro: If you are on, can you do something compiling a program for me? 00:43:05 anyway, even more annoying than the professional misdiagnoses are when people self-diagnose it 00:43:25 I mean, it's easy enough to get yourself professionally diagnosed with a meaningless label, you don't have to do it yourself... 00:43:26 I find I'm normally pretty good at detecting people who other people would diagnose as Asperger's 00:43:41 AnMaster and zzo38, for instance, are pretty obvious candidates to have the meaningless label in question applied to them 00:43:44 you, I'm not so sure 00:43:59 And how do I write a idea to ImageMagick? I have a few suggestions for their software. 00:44:05 ais523: it's probably more obvious in person 00:44:13 zzo38: Don't; try telling the GraphicsMagick folk. 00:44:29 ImageMagick seems a bit dormant, development-wise. Well, GraphicsMagick appears more community-oriented, anyway. 00:44:33 (It's a fork of ImageMagick.) 00:45:09 Does it have all of the new features of ImageMagick? 00:45:58 It's actively developed. 00:46:10 They probably have different syntax or mechanisms, but it's likely. 00:46:27 O, I read the FAQ, so I can see those things, but not everything. 00:46:48 Probably the rest can be emulated with the existing features. 00:47:55 Some ideas I have is, built-in FFT (instead of requiring external), support for loading/saving audio file formats, support more options for raw formats, and support formatted text rendering with masks and bold and stuff like MSE has. 00:48:08 Built-in FFT, aka slow FFT. 00:48:34 Audio file formats are probably outside of the project's scope, and I'm not sure they'd make a change that effectively requires them to rename... but it would be fun. 00:48:43 Text rendering; doesn't it have that? 00:50:02 It has text rendering, but you can't put formatting codes inside of the text. Also it doesn't support some features similar to MSE, such as symbol-font and masking where the text goes, etc. 00:50:21 For audio file, it can just load the left channel into the red channel and right channel into the green channel. 00:50:22 zzo38: In-band formatting is maybe not very good. 00:50:33 ehird: "slow Fast Fourier Transform" is sort-of an oxymoron 00:50:37 but I know what you mean 00:50:44 zzo38: -text 'foo' -bold 'bar' is easier to e.g. pass user-input variables to than -text 'foo \bold{bar}'. 00:50:47 zzo38: do you know of sox? 00:50:53 it's like ImageMagick but for audio files 00:50:57 ais523: sox can't do things like sin(x), can it? 00:51:00 It's just a converter. 00:51:14 ehird: I used it to remove mains hum from my recordings 00:51:16 back ages ago 00:51:20 and it has lots of other transform commands like that 00:51:22 Was that using a mathematical expression? 00:51:24 much like ImageMagick does for images 00:51:37 it wasn't using an expression, it was using a generic filter command 00:51:39 I know you can do a lot of audio processing with ImageMagick already, but only with raw files. 00:51:45 ais523: 00:51:46 15:40:42 imconvert -size 84622x1 -depth 8 r:- -channel R -fx "p{i+20*sin(i/50),j}" r:- 00:51:49 Can it do that? 00:52:33 ehird: well, adding a sine wave to an image is equivalent to adding a constant tone to a sound 00:52:40 Yes. 00:52:46 But does sox have such a thing? 00:52:52 I'm checking the man page now 00:53:14 I'm sure sox has many things, but that isn't completely the point. Some things do work better with ImageMagick, anyways. 00:53:31 The command-line I put was for flangering effects, is one thing 00:54:01 Also, some other effects are also useful on sound file, blur, normalize, brightness, contrast, saturation, etc 00:54:12 Many of the effects in ImageMagick are useful to sound files. But some isn't 00:54:24 FFT is especially useful with sound-file 00:54:28 It's a neat abstraction. 00:54:29 Hmm... 00:54:41 zzo38: Some Haskell-user types use this as a toy representation of an image: 00:54:47 type Image = Float -> Float -> Colour 00:54:58 That is, an image is a function taking two floats and returning an RGB colour. 00:55:08 Or double instead of float. Whatever. 00:55:12 A real of some kind. 00:55:13 O, OK. 00:55:15 ah yes, sox has a "synth" feature that lets you add tones to a sound 00:55:15 zzo38: the interesting thing is, 00:55:17 this is continuous 00:55:26 so each pixel has infinite subpixels; 0 and 1 has 0.5, 0.25 etc 00:55:34 so an image can have an arbitrary amount of detail 00:55:46 to turn it into an actual image file, you sample it at 0,1,2 or 0,0.5,1,1.5 00:55:51 and a "flanger" effect that does flanging without you having to work out the maths 00:55:51 or whatever depth you want 00:55:59 and the image gets bigger in pixel size as you sample more, and more detailed 00:56:03 zzo38: the question I ask you is, 00:56:12 how can we apply this to audio, using the audio-as-image idea? 00:56:21 actually fractal audio sounds fun 00:56:41 ehird: you'd do it to the fourier transform of the audio, rather than to the time-domain sound 00:56:46 For audio, just make it one-dimensional instead of two-dimensional, and it can work 00:56:47 ais523: yes 00:56:59 I think it'd be fun composing for such a thing 00:57:05 and exploring music in more detail by slowing it down 00:57:08 and it would be exactly the same, using the inputs as duration and frequency and the output as intensity 00:57:11 (sampling more) 00:57:25 some music programs actually use a similar view for editing music 00:57:30 although it's simplified 00:57:44 often called "matrix view" or something like that 00:58:01 the thing with the function-as-images thing is that it's totally lossless editing on bitmaps 00:58:02 but generally they don't draw the overtones to simplify matters, whereas they should 00:58:05 i.e., you can do scaling 00:58:11 and never have blocked up pixels or lose any information 00:58:29 things like that don't map to the real world, but you can use it as an intermediate form and I find it very interesting 01:04:34 ImageMagick does have FFT, but it is not built-in and it requires external program 01:05:31 Probably because the external program is better at it. 01:05:34 Also, maybe patents? 01:05:42 If audio format would be supported in ImageMagick, you would use the DPI operator for sample rates 01:08:02 FFTW is now licensed by GNU GPL. 01:09:11 -!- CESSMASTER has joined. 01:17:15 -!- jix has quit ("leaving"). 01:20:42 zzo38: patent != license 01:20:48 also, if they linked with FFTW, they'd have to use the GPL license 01:21:04 which is impossible: they would have to get all contributors, ever, to agree to it; plus the GPL sucks 01:24:28 O, I know. 01:26:14 but yeah 01:26:26 zzo38: consider that a good FFT is a whole projectful's work 01:26:28 and it's quite understandable 01:26:51 if you were using Linux, you could get an FFT program in one command :-P ...well, assuming your distro would include a package manager. 01:27:12 on the other hand, bad FFTs are pretty easy to write 01:27:26 and also bad 01:27:33 also, I get annoyed at people using "FFT" when they mean "Fourier transform"; the FFT is just one relatively common algorithm to do that 01:27:58 then I'll do it just to annoy you! 01:28:59 incidentally, Emacs' GUI menus really need a redesign... 01:29:24 they could be quite useful for not-common-enough-to-remember-but-common-enough-that-searching-is-a-pain tasks and also keybinding discovery, but they're worse than useless as-is 01:30:04 I looked at the Magic Set Editor codes for rendering text, can it be made with just C instead of C++, though? 01:30:37 are you asking the magic set editor team to recode it or just whether it's possible? 01:30:44 if the former, that's unlikely; if the latter, almost certainly 01:31:14 No, just so I can make it in C, in a separate utility. Some of the other codes I can also use, but I want to use it in C instead of C++ 01:31:55 Some codes in Magic Set Editor I want to take from there, I can make a program licensed by GNU GPL, and make a command-line program with some similar function, but not all. Because I want to make it differently 01:32:21 there's a surprise. 01:40:56 shiver me timbers! it's that day again! 01:41:28 There are many things I just don't like about MSE, but I would like to render the card in a similar way, but with different input formats and different way of many other things, too 01:42:11 I can see how many of these codes worked, I look at many of them right now. 01:52:38 How can I get a library to do rendering with this text and fonts (including formatting), which can be used in a C program? 01:55:20 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:59:58 Hey, Leopard has a built in hidden preference thing to make it use the Tiger resources. 02:00:04 Cool. 02:00:37 Heh, you can even mix-and-match: I have a Tiger-style window with the Leopard-style window buttons. 02:00:44 That is, close/minimize/optimize. 02:01:05 And the Leopard button/etc widgets, I think. 02:01:11 But the pinstripe background and windw border/shadow. 02:01:47 And also a Leopard window with the Tiger window buttons, which is just ugly. 02:04:29 -!- zzo38 has joined. 02:05:05 O, if I want to make this render card, maybe I can just use ImageMagick to render the text. But I would need to make up a file to count the size of each characters in the font. 02:05:25 I can just use ImageMagick to render everything. 02:05:47 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 02:13:20 -!- ehird has quit. 02:14:50 -!- ehird has joined. 02:15:07 Apart from the menu this is amusingly working. 02:16:37 Also right-click menus. 02:22:26 I don't think this is actually working enough to bother keeping, though. 02:30:58 I'll put this back. 02:40:04 Sometime. 02:45:11 -!- zzo38 has joined. 02:45:26 I fixed the stroker.gb game, but can you contribute 40 more levels to make 256 in total, to make it complete? 02:45:34 I asked on the other IRC, too. 02:51:43 xD 03:01:26 -!- Sgeo has joined. 03:10:52 Please, can someone add more levels to this game? Which channel(s) is better to ask? 03:13:25 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 03:32:34 Is it just me... 03:32:40 http://ubuntu.ly/images/tutorials/2009/ubuntu-hedgehog2.png 03:32:40 http://static.arstechnica.com/assets/2009/03/ubuntu904-b1-thumb-640xauto-4004.png 03:32:48 or has Ubuntu become uglier over time? 03:33:00 U bet u 03:33:21 One day, oerjan will say something that isn't a pun. :P 03:34:48 But yeah, srsly. 03:38:22 I've been working on an Internet accountability program for Linux. The idea is to log the websites you visit, then periodically e-mail that log so someone else. It also writes a log entry when it is shutdown. 03:38:22 —Ubuntu Christian Edition forum 03:39:08 "God tells me not to murder people or bad things will happen, so I don't." 03:39:23 "The program tells me not to go to porn sites or bad things will happen, so I don't." 03:44:15 Why do people avoid sex for religious reasons, if eir parents aren't forcing it on em? I mean, it's absurd to say that God would be angry at all these teens having sex, and if God doesn't care, what's the point? 03:44:37 Of course it's absurd to say that, but no more than the rest of the bible. 03:45:01 Does the bible say it? If not, does our church say it? If so, then it is so. 03:45:26 Note: Bible clause has exemptions, such as things our church says are metaphorical or things we think are metaphorical or just want to ignore right now. 04:13:14 ais523: I don't suppose you know if it's possible to boot up the Ubuntu install CD telling it not to play the startup sound? 04:13:37 plug in some headphones 04:13:58 i'm not sure that'll be quiet enough :P 04:14:09 but that's plan b, yes 05:03:16 grr, unetbootin isn't available for os x 05:03:31 (you can't plug headphones into a CD burner :P) 05:29:38 ehird: about the headphones, you could use a headphone plug with nothing attached to it to make sure 05:29:46 heh 05:29:49 will that work? 05:29:53 we actually have one at home, and it does 05:29:55 seems like it'd default 05:29:58 ais523: yes, on a pc, at least 05:30:01 with that os 05:30:11 the headphone detection doesn't have anything to do with the OS or the headphones themselves 05:30:19 instead, it's done by seeing if the headphone jack closes a circuit 05:30:35 there's one more piece of metal inside the headphone socket than is needed for a connection 05:30:48 so it's purely mechanical whether sound's directed to the headphones or speakers 05:30:51 -!- bsmntbombdood has changed nick to bsmntbombgirl. 05:30:54 not even electronic! 05:31:09 heh 05:31:31 anyway, anyone know how to .iso → USB stick if I can't use unetbootin? 05:34:27 hmm... /me is spoiled by preemptive multitasking 05:34:33 oh? 05:34:36 back when I was writing 16-bit Windows programs, it was all cooperative 05:34:45 on Windows, at any rate 05:35:10 so tight infinite loops crashed the computer until I could break out with control-alt-delete 05:36:19 there was a Yield() system call but I never used it 05:36:30 it was deprecated when windows 3.1 came out, at any rate 05:36:37 instead, it was all about the message loop 05:36:42 Thutu-style multitasking 05:48:03 ais523: this usb drive has a switch thing that's magnetic; the usb slot retracts if you push it one way 05:48:05 my question is 05:48:09 how the fuck do I get this thing out? 05:48:29 that sounds unnecessarily complex for a USB drive 05:48:32 and i have no idea 05:49:01 it's a gimmick 05:49:08 i think the magneticism is keeping it in 05:49:32 but i can't switch the opener 05:50:37 :( 05:53:15 bah 05:54:18 ais523: even applying as much force as possible just pulling it won't come out 05:54:25 is there a button? 05:54:30 ais523: no, just the slider, as I said 05:54:52 and the slider is the same component as the usb plug? 05:55:08 http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-gb&q=sandisk+cruzer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 05:55:20 see the image below "shopping results"? (took out mouse to try and get to the drive) 05:55:32 that thing, if you slide the knob to the other end, retracts the plug thing 05:55:36 except i can't seem to 05:56:18 so the issue is that it won't slide atm 05:56:27 what about doing something with it other than sliding, like pushing on it? 05:56:29 i don't know if you're meant to take it out that way 05:56:32 ais523: it's at the very end 05:58:01 the thing itself comes out one bit but then goes back if you leave go 05:58:02 a tiny bit 05:58:07 i think it works magnetically 06:00:26 :| 06:01:27 maybe i should open the imac and extract it :P 06:01:43 I wouldn't care if it didn't have a light on the switcher that fades in and out constantly 06:08:17 oh, it's stuck in your laptop? 06:08:34 ais523: I'm curious as to what lead you to the impression that it's a laptop this is stuck in 06:08:37 but, err, yes 06:08:40 ehird: it's clearly incorrect 06:08:50 i understand it might have been confusing not knowing that :P 06:09:01 probably it's because desktops are rather large and clunky things to stick USB sticks into 06:09:03 ais523: nothing I said implies that, but yes, correct that it is incorrect 06:09:05 and indeed 06:09:12 but it beats a noisy cd 06:09:19 why not NFS? 06:09:24 to what? 06:09:27 (I was having this discussion with AnMaster a while ago, actually) 06:09:35 and the answer is, it depends on what you're trying to do 06:09:43 install ubuntu 06:09:47 * ais523 was trying to argue that USB sticks had largely replaced CDs 06:09:51 no 06:10:01 only mostly, not largely 06:10:01 ais523: for the savvy. 06:10:09 coppro: largely's less than mostly, IMO 06:10:21 anyway 06:10:41 I'd be fine with leaving this stick in for now, but I'd like to get it out later 06:11:14 as a really silly idea, have you tried using a software eject command on it? 06:11:25 much the same way you can eject CDs from software? 06:11:27 obviously. 06:11:31 I unmounted it first. 06:11:33 pity 06:11:45 maybe it only detects unmounts from Windows? 06:11:59 that would be ridiculous, but not entirely implausible 06:12:01 is largely largely less than mostly, or mostly larger, that's the question 06:12:33 ehird: power down and wait until the internal battery dies 06:12:43 power down what, exactly? 06:12:48 the computer 06:12:50 coppro: you're assuming electromagnet there 06:12:54 what does that achieve at all? 06:12:57 what if it's a permanent magnet? 06:13:04 the magnet is just that the switch thing 06:13:06 snaps to each side 06:13:21 the actual mechanism is just that the plug is mounted on the switch thing 06:13:29 ais523: no permanent magnet of that strength would be found in consumer electronics 06:13:34 it's a rather obvious way to make something retractable... 06:13:48 coppro: you're on crack, the thing worked before i ever put it in a computer 06:13:48 coppro: you'd be surprised 06:13:51 drop the magnet thing, guyz 06:13:55 it's not that 06:13:58 oh 06:13:59 they're often used to tune TVs, for instance 06:14:06 CRT TVs, that is 06:14:15 they use permanent magnets as well as electromagnetism to help steer the beam 06:14:34 CRT TVs are no longer consumer electronics :P 06:15:09 I use a black and white CRT TV from the stone age 06:15:24 I got it second-hand from a velociraptor who crafted it out of the original spare rib 06:15:36 ehird: both our TVs at home are CRT, although we threw the black-and-white one out ages ago 06:15:38 and plug it into my hand-crank Analytical Engine laptop 06:15:53 we couldn't find an easy way to get one with an integrated VHS recorder otherwise 06:16:03 pfft, integrated 06:16:03 and my parents don't really understand recording technologies more advanced than VHS 06:16:04 ... 06:16:06 more like schmintergrated 06:16:08 nor separate ones 06:16:15 a PVR is easier than VHS :/ 06:16:20 ais523: VHS recording is actually a bitch imo 06:16:29 ehird: not really on the integrated versions 06:16:29 the interface sucks to set time, and the "magic codes" rarely work 06:16:33 you press the record button, it records 06:16:41 oh, you mean recording on a timer? they don't normally do that 06:16:41 ais523: unless you want to record a program on at 4am 06:16:43 or, you know, 06:16:52 anything not on right now 06:16:55 ehird: the usual method of accomplishing that in this family seems to be staying up until 4am 06:17:00 well that works 06:17:06 ais523: then hitting record and going to bed? 06:17:08 yes 06:17:11 :D 06:17:18 the VCR rewinds and ejects once the tape ends 06:17:33 (ironically, I do know how to work the timer, but rarely use it) 06:17:39 (but then, I haven't recorded anything for months anyway) 06:18:09 I'm fairly sure torrents are at least an order of a magnitude easier to use than a VCR timer 06:18:18 and torrents aren't even very simple... 06:19:18 something like tivo is probably easier, but also more locked-down 06:19:22 hmm... does Visual Studio run in Wine? 06:19:29 almost certainly not 06:19:32 I'm sort-of wondering what the free versions are like 06:19:41 I've used a paid version at University, it was just generically annoying 06:19:46 so I switched to the command-line version instead 06:20:02 cl.exe isn't really that bad, it's hard to really mess up the interface of a command-line compiler 06:20:11 there's a well-polished vi keybindings type thing for visual studio 06:20:14 that probably makes it nicer 06:20:31 (a big commercial thing, not just a 10-line open source addon that adds three commands and no combining) 06:20:50 http://www.codekana.com/ is also quite cool-looking due to its ability to parse invalid code 06:20:58 but visual studio just seems like Too Much 06:24:13 You are now leaving Wikia. Please click here to continue, or wait 10 seconds to be redirected. 06:24:17 ... on an otherwise blank screen 06:24:20 ugh, wikia 06:24:21 i hate wikia. 06:24:23 :( 06:24:26 what a brilliant idea! 06:24:29 wiki* 06:24:35 coppro: ...what? 06:24:43 wiki* is generally bad 06:24:49 or *wiki 06:24:53 wait you're not serious are you? 06:25:09 absolutely. Do you know the amount of time I have spent reading random articles on Wikipedia? 06:25:11 it's a menace 06:25:17 almost as bad as TVTropes 06:25:28 coppro: fuck you, i was all prepared to be all holier-than-thou :P 06:25:34 just go and ruin my rage! 06:26:47 so uh anyone want to .iso this usb stick :| 06:29:39 hmm... any reason a CD must be ISO format? Why not just dd off the stick? 06:29:47 * Sgeo founded a wiki on wikia.. back before they went evil 06:29:54 coppro: .iso → USB 06:30:07 .iso ubuntu 9.04 → usb sticky stick 06:30:14 unetbootin would be the thing 06:30:20 uses qt4, but windows/linux binaries only 06:30:26 and i'm way too lazy to compile it 06:32:22 ehird: format the stick, copy the disk over, then set up grub on it? 06:32:36 you can't use grub, just syslinux 06:32:53 but sure, that would work, added to todo as "last resort". 06:33:13 why not grub? 06:34:22 because it won't work? i don't know this shit, i just know it's true 06:35:00 it won't work from a USB stick? 06:35:07 works fine from a USB harddisk for me 06:35:33 ffffffffffffffffffffff 06:35:35 i don't even knw 06:35:36 know 06:35:55 you appear to have sprung a leak 06:36:20 -!- Pthing has quit (Remote closed the connection). 06:43:14 http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/ ;; .........ffffffffffffffffffff 06:43:20 i hate you dmm 06:44:08 yes it was rather bad today 06:44:17 (yesterday) 06:44:32 ehird: I hate him now too :( 06:44:42 let's stab him 06:44:55 but he invented Piet, so all's good 06:45:01 well he's on the run from death already 06:45:52 http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/2425.html 06:45:58 death by time 06:46:38 wouldn't that rather be death _to_ time? 06:48:23 but they're all death by 06:48:31 oerjan: death by being time 06:48:46 maybe, possibly, perhaps 06:56:46 so, who wants to get this usb working 06:56:47 i see 06:59:17 ehird: you 06:59:24 also your mom 07:02:34 no, pretty sure she's asleep 07:05:13 she dreams about usb ubuntu install cds 07:05:16 all night. 07:08:49 hmm... she never complains about nightmares 07:17:14 -!- augur has joined. 07:23:23 -!- ehird has quit. 07:27:03 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:02:09 -!- coppro has quit ("The only thing I know is that I know nothing"). 08:03:20 -!- coppro has joined. 08:03:58 -!- kar8nga has joined. 08:20:41 -!- coppro has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 08:21:27 -!- Sgeo has quit (Remote closed the connection). 08:32:23 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 09:32:48 -!- adam_d has joined. 10:22:03 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 10:28:27 -!- Slereah has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)). 10:34:24 ais523, what was that about ejecting usb stick about? 10:34:50 AnMaster: I'm not entirely sure; ehird seems to have mechanical problems with his 10:35:45 ais523, he must be weak if he can't pull out an usb stick! 10:36:02 AnMaster: there's some sort of weird magnetic lock thing 10:36:03 apparently 10:36:48 ais523, that locks onto what? the plastic of the computer? 10:37:01 I'm not sure of the details 10:37:17 also that seems too silly to be true 10:37:25 video or it didn't happen 10:37:31 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 10:37:40 meh 11:10:13 bbl 12:12:01 -!- FireFly has joined. 14:14:55 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 14:18:17 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 14:21:20 -!- kar8nga has quit (Remote closed the connection). 14:40:18 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 14:41:27 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 15:43:58 -!- oerjan has joined. 15:50:24 AnMaster: Arrr! 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