< 1251590461 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eg. wrapping or similar isn't really necessary in the implementation? < 1251590530 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most implementations specify how they handle numbers < 1251590536 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrapping to 255 is common < 1251590555 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wouldn't call it undefined; it's generally expected that -+ will always leave the cell unaltered < 1251590596 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall something about implementations using church numerals that bombed on decrementing 0 < 1251590621 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since church numerals cannot be negative < 1251590937 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh < 1251590953 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can move my memory events down a bit < 1251591620 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251591658 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no way I'm going to remember anything about J tomorrow < 1251591771 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: so are you that faceless guy? :) < 1251591779 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251591808 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who posted a J AskReddit-like self post in r/programming < 1251591826 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about a day old < 1251591857 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on second page now < 1251591872 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9f5g5/attempting_to_learn_jit_makes_me_cry_any_advice/ < 1251591949 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not me < 1251591994 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible, there cannot be two people learning J simultaneously... < 1251592018 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1251593188 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played around with J some time during the spring < 1251593197 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was quite interesting < 1251593288 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you remember it? < 1251594074 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat65.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251594078 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1251594082 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"." < 1251594208 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'lo < 1251594940 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, nope :D < 1251595046 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm bored < 1251595082 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I think I have an RMXP implementation of BF.. thought severely limited, not supporting input and the only output is numerical < 1251595087 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though* < 1251595125 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without using the built-in scripting (ruby), that is < 1251596485 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251597520 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1251598140 0 :Pije!i=a228f2a4@gateway/web/freenode/x-uybxvufmsfllhvwl JOIN :#esoteric < 1251599963 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1251600114 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1251601142 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1251601303 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1251601695 0 :Pije!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 180 seconds < 1251602003 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.85-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1.2/20090801173140]" < 1251602054 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1251603333 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 148 (No route to host) < 1251605637 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1251606741 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My peppermint soda is a big hit with people who are TOTALLY NOT ME. < 1251608079 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@88-148-171-132.co.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251608157 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-169-7-142.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251608580 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1251608583 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :peppermint soda < 1251608718 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want < 1251609283 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opinions from people who have never tried it: Mixed :P < 1251609329 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just got back disappointing exam results
< 1251609533 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay.. one more day and high speed university connection.. relative to wireless at least < 1251609572 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm satisfied if irc works < 1251609586 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it always does! < 1251609603 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. modulo firewalls. < 1251609739 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc often magically works even when i can't make a connection to the internets < 1251609762 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's probably because the connection exists already, and pixies are preventing the forming of new ones < 1251609771 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's very magical still < 1251610114 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq has had the same problem < 1251610236 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to, but i forgot to pay the net bill again, and the neighbor's net doesn't seem to do it. < 1251610257 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is good, because it might be rude to go flip their modem thingie on/off < 1251610363 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(off/on) < 1251610477 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1251610489 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do it from the undefended web interface :P < 1251610570 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure i'm tech savvy enough, took me quite a while to even understand what you meant < 1251610583 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i'm sleepy < 1251610675 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :third night of sitting in a car, watching an empty yard < 1251610955 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251611284 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to switch DNS servers. And magic works. < 1251611435 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251611491 0 :DarkPants!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1251611563 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251611841 0 :DarkPants!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreaseMokey < 1251611843 0 :GreaseMokey!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreaseMonkey < 1251612606 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251612936 0 :rodgort`!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :rodgort < 1251613465 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251613870 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1251616047 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251617029 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251617033 0 :Leonidas!n=Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1251619199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1251619200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1251620773 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251621394 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-11-205.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251622004 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1251622230 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251622562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251622940 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251624053 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1251625347 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@91.153.117.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251625779 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :walking on the bridge, i was sure i could fly < 1251625796 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when i saw a tree, i could've been a squirrel < 1251625825 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily i can sleep in just three and a half hours. < 1251625863 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, err ok. Sure you feel all right? < 1251625876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you need a bit MORE sleep than that < 1251625897 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can sleep *in* 3.5 hours, that is, after that amount of time < 1251625927 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before that, i need to play the guitar. that's probably going to work just fine, seeing as i'm basically hallusinating < 1251625937 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least i feel i could start to) < 1251626018 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleeping 3 hour nights feels interesting after getting used to 12 < 1251627696 0 :Dewio!n=dewi@203-214-86-224.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1251627717 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251627728 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251627893 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251627931 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251627957 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.91.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251628500 0 :Dewi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) < 1251628604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:36:25 * Sgeo vaguely hopes that posting an AskReddit style question in /r/programming is ok < 1251628613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's generally discouraged to not find things out yourself... < 1251628617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ask an awful lot of qs < 1251628636 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251628746 0 :Dewio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251628816 0 :Dewi!n=dewi@203-217-39-59.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1251629386 0 :Dewio!n=dewi@124-171-230-253.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1251629470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dewiont < 1251629539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how much a typical 2.5" notebook hard drive weighs? < 1251629539 0 :Dewio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. Oh shit... I unplugged a light in my computer corner a couple of times. My LAN would go down... looks like internet was too. How worrying. < 1251629561 0 :Dewio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not much... couple hundred grams? < 1251629577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dewio: yah, but that matters at this scale, so that's quite vague :) < 1251629582 0 :Dewio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1251629585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess single/double platter changes it < 1251629603 0 :Dewio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :find one of those PDF data sheets, they have everything < 1251629608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone knows that it varies, anyway! http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistahardware/thread/720108ee-0a9c-4090-b62d-bbd5cb1a7605 < 1251629856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dewio: unfortunately I don't know the brand; guess i'll have to try and find it out < 1251629938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fujitsu it seems. < 1251629972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps not. < 1251630099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehh, I'll just estimate it < 1251630110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :single platter = 250g < 1251630117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :double platter=400g < 1251630121 0 :Dewi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) < 1251630203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems that an SSD weighs about 81g < 1251630244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the question is, how much does a notebook CD burner weigh... hmm < 1251630253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet 500g < 1251630261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, too much < 1251630262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessay 400g < 1251630746 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-77-180.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251631238 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm going to do something that is probably insane. < 1251631248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll jump off a bridge too < 1251631253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm going to dig out my red hat 5.0 cds < 1251631258 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and install them in virtualbox < 1251631259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1251631267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Phew < 1251631275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant on modern hardware < 1251631288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well virtualbox simulates modern hardware so... < 1251631295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1251631315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, iirc it has a 2.4 kernel too < 1251631326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION remembers the old make xconfig...
< 1251631335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some TK GUI iirc < 1251631349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not pure X protocol? :-( < 1251631362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not sure... it was SO long ago < 1251631369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean without even xlib < 1251631376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no < 1251631389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make xconfig under 2.6 kernels uses QT btw < 1251631398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Viva la Athena! < 1251631409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, :D < 1251631412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and... < 1251631430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only find red hat 6.0 cds... < 1251631438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I have 5.0 ones around somewhere < 1251631441 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can't find them < 1251631443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1251631453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try and make X11 run on Linux 0.1 < 1251631469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, would need to patch the kernel a lot for it < 1251631474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so pointless < 1251631484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It comes with a Swedish keyboard layout though! < 1251631498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll save you from, like, one stub. < 1251631506 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm? < 1251631513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm what? < 1251631518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and yeah it is a good default < 1251631531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird it isn't default any longer < 1251631534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm what? < 1251631534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO < 1251631542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, " That'll save you from, like, one stub." <-- ? < 1251631549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You don't seriously find that weird, do you?) < 1251631557 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no < 1251631563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Stubs are the metric unit for stubbed toes.[1] < 1251631565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1]: http://www.daisyowl.com/comic/2009-04-06 < 1251631619 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what the hell is the thing above it supposed to be? < 1251631625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A futon. < 1251631633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This futon" might be a hint, huh. < 1251631666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have some sort of insatiable urge to figure out any sort of context for it, http://www.daisyowl.com/comic/2009-03-27 < 1251631670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh right, thought it was the instrument < 1251631678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...The...futon...instrument. < 1251631686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1251631691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1251632026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, indeed < 1251632034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, like, what < 1251632041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah exactly < 1251632055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mom < 1251632070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, your too < 1251632080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*your's < 1251632099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what ever < 1251632103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(space intentional) < 1251632114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ergo your wrong bitch. < 1251632147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that's what SHE said < 1251632177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((Meanwhile, AnMaster is oblivious) < 1251632178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1251632189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1251632235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1251632237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROFIT! < 1251632248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No, I didn't sleep well) < 1251632274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Moldover's latest CD has a case, which comes with a theremin built into it." < 1251632278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Afhjfdgfgjkdfgksjfdhgksdfjghl O_O < 1251632286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will buy it, no matter what music it contains HOLY SHIT < 1251632289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/moldovertheremincase.jpg < 1251632297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. wow wow wow wow wow. wow. < 1251632317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow sounds cool < 1251632347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, would be a very basic one I guess? < 1251632350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a headphone port < 1251632356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not much to theremins, really < 1251632361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure, it won't be high-quality < 1251632371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well yeah, but I meant as in "low quality" < 1251632377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a professional one < 1251632382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1251632391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the good ones range like £500-£3,000 < 1251632397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1251632401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I got second-hand for £200 was probably about £500 new < 1251632408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1251632419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`google was this the command? < 1251632429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc < 1251632435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc £200 to SEK < 1251632438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1251632441 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calculate what? < 1251632442 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK� 200 = 2 311.62777 Swedish kronor < 1251632442 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A history of operating systems, by Neal Stephenson, the author of such novels as 'Snow Crash', 'The Diamond Age' and 'Zodiac'. \ www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html - [14]Cached - [15]Similar < 1251632445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251632454 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 200 £ in SEK < 1251632455 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :200 UK� = 2 311.62777 Swedish kronor < 1251632459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 500 £ in SEK < 1251632463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 2,000 £ in SEK < 1251632467 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :500 UK� = 5 779.06944 Swedish kronor < 1251632468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's SLOOOW < 1251632468 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2000 UK� = 23 116.2777 Swedish kronor < 1251632484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that is fucking expensive < 1251632493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :twice the cost of a laptop < 1251632494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: They're legitimate musical instruments < 1251632499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much does a good piano cost? < 1251632502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well true < 1251632522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and the answer is: a metric fuckton more < 1251632526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the track on the stite of the artist who did it is good, too bad the CD+theremin costs $50 < 1251632538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( < 1251632540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 50 $ in SEK < 1251632540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1251632541 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 US$ = 355.285223 Swedish kronor < 1251632547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1251632582 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fuck pulseaudio < 1251632584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :know why? < 1251632588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1251632599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I start playing something in vlc or rythmbox or whatever < 1251632613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it assigns it to one software "channel" or whatever the term is < 1251632622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And < 1251632623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it jumps a few times, causing audible pops < 1251632630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the first few seconds < 1251632632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :always < 1251632634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like what's known as a bvug. < 1251632635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bug < 1251632639 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yep. < 1251632641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, with your drivers or sth. < 1251632647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't a reason to _hate_ PulseAudio < 1251632655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a reason not to use it since it doesn't work well with your config combination < 1251632679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I checked with that pulseaudio channel info thingy and noticed it happened when it jumped channels < 1251632684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't happen with pure alsa < 1251632692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You aren't listening to what I'm saying < 1251632695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Intel HD Audio thingy is the driver < 1251632721 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I only have one system with pulseaudio. On my desktop I use jack < 1251632731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You aren't listening to what I'm saying < 1251632743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[11:44] ehird: That isn't a reason to _hate_ PulseAudio < 1251632743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[11:44] ehird: Just a reason not to use it since it doesn't work well with your config combination < 1251632759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well... ubuntu uses it. not sure how I would go about removing it and replacing it with dmix... < 1251632772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I never used dmix due to my desktop having a hardware mixer < 1251632778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt-get < 1251632786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, try and fix pulseaudio < 1251632812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well apt-get yes to remove pulseaudio, but how to get it to use something else instead is the question here.. < 1251632819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install another thing < 1251632869 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well alsa+dmix is already there below somewhere, so it should just be a case of *shudder* messing with the asoundrc and openalrc and various other sound library configs < 1251632875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1251632878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is done automatically. < 1251632889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just "sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio". < 1251632891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are more sound libraries than there are user space programs using sound libraries... < 1251632891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And reboot. < 1251632897 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sure about this? < 1251632901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1251632906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, huh < 1251632913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it doesn't work, your system is fucking weird, which is probable. < 1251632929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it *is* ubuntu we're talking here < 1251632931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it just works < 1251632934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so ubuntu has it set up to automatically fall back on something else hm < 1251632937 0 :Gracenotes_!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1251632943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's done with alternatives or something similar < 1251632982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right. Will do that in a bit. ATM it is compiling something. < 1251633001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try ossv4, it's probably an apt-get away :P < 1251633015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why am I compiling something? I bet you wonder. Well in this case due to being a developer of said project < 1251633026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was not wondering that at all. < 1251633041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, damn you ;P < 1251633091 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw about trackpoint vs. touchpad: I observed it a bit, well I'm faster with touchpad, but more accurate with trackpoint < 1251633103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense < 1251633125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, an external mouse beats both though < 1251633149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I wanted to rely on external peripherals I'd buy a tower < 1251633181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I can't do image editing without an external mouse < 1251633193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't do that a lot on the laptop < 1251633207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to it being so high res it is almost impossible to see what you are doing < 1251633218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I wanted to be a photographer, I'd buy a Mac Pro, a 30" Eizo, and a high-end camera < 1251633229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thankfully, I don't < 1251633229 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah *sigh* < 1251633246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I wanted to I'd probably abstain, because of, uhh, money. < 1251633253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not that laptop with an extra 10" screen? < 1251633262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not IPS < 1251633274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPS? InterProceduralService? < 1251633275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So pretty much instantly disqualified for anything involving colours < 1251633278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPS screen < 1251633279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs TN < 1251633283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1251633284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPS are the thick ones < 1251633296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TN are the cheap ones that invert unless you're looking directly at them < 1251633313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: As for screen realestate, < 1251633320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/10/gscreen-creating-rugged-dual-screen-laptop-for-animated-frogs-an/ < 1251633324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/27/dual-screen-gscreen-laptop-gets-pictured-hopefully-launching-th/ < 1251633329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fear. < 1251633334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, my desktop one doesn't invert except when you are close to looking along it < 1251633345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It distorts the colours, at least < 1251633348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just don't notice < 1251633357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All TN displays are absolutely horrible, pretty much < 1251633360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well not a lot until at very far angle < 1251633366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to your eyes < 1251633916 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1251633937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what the bendable, transparent OLED displays should also be? < 1251633938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cuttable. < 1251633940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With scissors. < 1251633948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy a sheet of display, cut out to fit! < 1251634049 0 :Dewi!n=dewi@124-171-162-128.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1251634351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, XD < 1251634362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be awesome. < 1251634366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw touchpad on my thinkpad is a bit cramped. < 1251634375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is? < 1251634382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice. Mine won't have one :P < 1251634386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, :P < 1251634392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinitely cramped, you could say < 1251634403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice way to describe it < 1251634747 0 :Dewio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) < 1251634929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lenovo's W700ds is a monster machine for sure; a freakish implementation of a power-user's wishlist created with little regard for practical concerns like portability or cost." <-- nice summary. < 1251634938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gScreen is the better < 1251634955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't know if it does RAID < 1251634971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link them together as one CPU box < 1251634973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure BSD can do that < 1251634975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no built in colour calibrator. Or tablet.. < 1251634983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but two 17" screens, dammit < 1251634994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1251634995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe just 15"; not sure. they're doing 13" too tho) < 1251635001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So plug them together < 1251635008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Also, it's a DIGITIZER. :P < 1251635018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*DIGITISER < 1251635025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah, but they are often called wacom tablets iirc < 1251635039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was parroting Lenovo. < 1251635082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why not remake it as dual screen tablet computer < 1251635092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be like awesomeish freakishy < 1251635097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :freakish* < 1251635108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30" tablet notebook, plz. < 1251635114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multitouch, too. < 1251635115 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, :D < 1251635117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call it the iLug. < 1251635121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From Apple. < 1251635122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you mean, two pens? < 1251635130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it works with your fingers too. :P < 1251635135 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1251635185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mh, I need to build a wearable computer < 1251635249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1251635283 0 :Gracenotes_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.85-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1.2/20090801173140]" < 1251635346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish BeagleBoard was a little less ... underpowered. < 1251635368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Mh, I need to build a wearable computer <-- a 30" wearable one XD < 1251635369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a heatsink and a fan on my shoulders sounds unfun. < 1251635380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, with a tablet! < 1251635380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Subjectively, that's how big the displays look, yes. < 1251635386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes indeed < 1251635395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The black-'n-read Private Eye one looks like a 60" screen at 10 feet < 1251635401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(= 3 meters) < 1251635406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*red < 1251635410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :black-'n-read ? < 1251635414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*red < 1251635414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251635415 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :red < 1251635430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terrible DPI for a 60" screen :P < 1251635443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: re: tablet - I'll probably use a trackpoint for the mousing < 1251635455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to anything that requires moving being awkwar < 1251635456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1251635527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, heh < 1251635544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, BeagleBoards only come with one USB port < 1251635554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the smallest USB hub in the world is :P < 1251635573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gotta stuff WiFi, 3G, and all my IO devices on it < 1251635580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it might have PS/2 for the keyboard/mouse :P < 1251635605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it also has DVI < 1251635608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the display is ok < 1251635647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1251635650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one USB port < 1251635777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, I don't know of any more easy-to-buy, works-as-is heatsinkless, small ARM boards < 1251635780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from gumstix < 1251635785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're not more powerful < 1251635791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ais says they break a lot < 1251636115 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1251637039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what do you need that for? < 1251637047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wearable computer < 1251637051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1251637054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer gotta go somewhere, ya ken < 1251637071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why not use a Server ATX size mobo? < 1251637079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For... very obvious reasons. < 1251637080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would fit nicely in a large backpack < 1251637092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, even the processor: < 1251637094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Battery life < 1251637096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power < 1251637098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heat < 1251637102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1251637107 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs heatsink = very hot and heavy < 1251637114 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, heat? nice during cold winters < 1251637115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably needs fan = noisy, hot, heavy, easy to jam < 1251637116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1251637117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heats your back < 1251637143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Beagle Board can fit into a very big pocket; it's 7.6 cm on all sides (not depth...) < 1251637151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not "very" big, just big < 1251637175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, could break easily, you need a sturdy box to put it in < 1251637184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just an anti-static bag < 1251637190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a zip on the pocket < 1251637197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should do the trick < 1251637197 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, could break easily... < 1251637201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1251637205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It IS made out of copper or whatever < 1251637213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's no moving parts < 1251637225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you bend your pockets to hell regularly, I guess < 1251637231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how that would work < 1251637239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sitting down? < 1251637246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well pockets in trousers < 1251637255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, don't put it in a back pocket. < 1251637256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't put it in your back pocket! < 1251637261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snap. < 1251637261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn you are too fast < 1251637287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main problem with a wearable - okay, not the main one, just yet another one - is the keyboard. < 1251637299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have rather unrealistic demands. I want to be able to code on this thing. < 1251637301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, You need whatever star trek uses... < 1251637321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't they just have wearable transporters < 1251637322 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Computer, blah blah < 1251637332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but there's a reason those computers are stationary :P < 1251637339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1251637359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, or not. They are on space ships, which are moving... < 1251637363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw... < 1251637366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why "space ship" < 1251637370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not "space plane" < 1251637385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they're more like ships < 1251637385 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... flying is closer than sailing to traveling in space < 1251637390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, are they? < 1251637399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Airplanes are just a string of seats for the mostpart < 1251637409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well yes... hm < 1251637413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spaceships have roomy rooms and levels and stuff < 1251637420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like ship < 1251637421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1251637437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there are lots of planes that have more than one level though < 1251637449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's still more like a ship < 1251637451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, Boeing 777 iirc < 1251637453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true < 1251637782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Four-Legs-Bad-Good-hardcover/dp/0618809090 < 1251637791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this may be an inappropriate name for a children's book < 1251637794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251637884 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "ship" is a general world that can mean any nice big travelling machine. < 1251637887 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*word < 1251637892 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, heh < 1251637941 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use it for a plain as well, technically, space plain would be more restricting, space ship doesn't imply it's closer to the sea kinda ships than planes < 1251637951 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1251637955 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, a plain? < 1251637960 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wording may have been slightly confusing < 1251637974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok is a very plane man < 1251637980 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "ship" could also mean a big flying machine, in my expert opinion < 1251637981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, :D < 1251637984 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask ehird, what would he know < 1251638004 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is what i meant < 1251638007 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former i mean < 1251638008 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glah < 1251638011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh... < 1251638022 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: please tell AnMaster what i'm trying to say < 1251638031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"plane" < 1251638039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he knows what you mean < 1251638041 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251638046 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i say "plain"? < 1251638049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, oklofok. < 1251638050 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1251638050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you did. < 1251638051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm literally laughing out loud atm < 1251638053 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xxxxxxxxxxxxxxD < 1251638070 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said it twice, it seems < 1251638082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1251638086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are a failure, oklofok. :P < 1251638110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, yes if it was only once the typo would have gone un-noticed. But when it happened twice after each other I thought it was intentional < 1251638118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some sort of bad joke < 1251638147 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could've been < 1251638155 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something i would do < 1251638157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sail full of found and fury < 1251638166 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1251638183 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when i'm struggling to get my thoughts out, i rarely intentionally encrypt them < 1251638199 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you _think_ < 1251638202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :•¶¯•!*(k` < 1251638202 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fucking hard can it be to explain a word is more general than someone thinks < 1251638216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :General oklofok! Atten-SHUN! < 1251638257 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :General Attenborough! Atten-FOK! < 1251638271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just had the image of david attenborough having sex < 1251638272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1251638307 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's evolution! < 1251638315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's what you _think_ <-- and that's what she _said_! < 1251638318 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should've seen me at band training, the drummer had to constantly correct my actions (outside play), "switch the amp on", "don't forget your X" for about 3 items when leaving etc < 1251638321 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and so did your mom) < 1251638331 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just stared < 1251638346 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like "oh, right, i'm awake, let's obey" < 1251638387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251638581 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia seems to list no military attenboroughs :/ < 1251638802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1251638803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.marco.org/172461410 < 1251638812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10Mbit/s cable internet < 1251638815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what is $52/mo today < 1251638817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 1999 < 1251638824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could pay more for a 100Mbit version < 1251638827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unmetered < 1251638833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet service has truly regressed < 1251639423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides to try and write a game using Gambit-C scheme and SDL or something
< 1251639598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gambit's c linking stuff seems quite good. < 1251639763 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any interesting "simple" graphics libs like _why's Shoes (which is for GUIs, not graphics, but anyway) < 1251639778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shoes can do graphics too, but hmm < 1251639778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1251639785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Processing (not a lib, but eh) for one < 1251639807 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, true, I'd forgotten about that one < 1251639832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: If you want a nicer, more functional-y language for Processing, try http://technically.us/spde/About < 1251639840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't think of anything else off the top of my head < 1251639851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These things tend to want to take over the whole environment for simplicity reasons < 1251639857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even shoes is quite isolated < 1251639871 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1251639888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: If you just want to push some pixels in the IO monad, haskell has a nice gd biniding < 1251639893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that kinda sucks for anything more < 1251639920 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There didn't seem to be anything suitably nice FRP stuff < 1251639922 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/thing// < 1251639929 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/stuff/thing/ < 1251639931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FRP and simple doesn't really uhhhhh mix < 1251639932 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, watever < 1251639946 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/simple/highlevel/ then < 1251639958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((SICP)) has what you need. < 1251639964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: Tautology) < 1251639973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SICP is the definition of what is a thing) < 1251640002 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to code the stuff myself and what SICP gives readymade is a bit limited :-P < 1251640025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://butnotyet.tumblr.com/post/175132533/the-story-of-a-simple-and-dangerous-kernel-bug ;; Yikes < 1251640033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: SICP even has graphics stuff? < 1251640038 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't it? < 1251640044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know < 1251640067 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall something like that in the Abelson-Sussman lectures < 1251640076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*The Sussman < 1251640076 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might not have been in the book < 1251640085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you even *know*. < 1251640091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things. < 1251640095 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abelson is a person as well < 1251640125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but Abelson isn't The Abelson, as far as I'm aware. < 1251640160 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes he is < 1251640166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is he < 1251640170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to have to demand a citation < 1251640191 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.001/abelson-sussman-lectures/ < 1251640203 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Abelson < 1251640207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any "The Abelson" there. < 1251640218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nor even "The Sussman"; I conclude that this page is an evil fabrication. < 1251640220 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor do I see any "The Sussman" so I guess we were both wrong < 1251640233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, he is obviously The Sussman. This is self-evident. < 1251640251 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TheSussmanness is as self-evident as TheAbelsonness < 1251640263 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either both are or neither is < 1251640263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your thinking is unscientific and ultimately destructive. < 1251640267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repent. < 1251640317 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really pent before so I can't repent now can I < 1251640347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You attempt to speak deeply, but you have not achieved Satori. Please cease and desist. < 1251640354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1251640379 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|? < 1251640391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1251640395 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1251640395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am disappointed in you, student. < 1251640398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1251640400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| party! < 1251640403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1251640542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:|) < 1251640550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ) :| < 1251640553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ) :| I am free! < 1251640556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1251640574 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|:| < 1251640577 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| | : I am free! < 1251640579 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: < 1251640584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1251640594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :˝| : < 1251640602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :˝| : I am pretty sure this is a segmentation fault or something < 1251640606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: Core dumped < 1251640607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640612 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251640629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640636 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pwd < 1251640641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/root < 1251640643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have mail. < 1251640643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640649 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mail < 1251640681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU male 77.4 released 3001-07-42 < 1251640697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 The Sussman Dear Lord, please let people know my name. < 1251640698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1251640702 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1251640703 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1251640714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't need to. < 1251640714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1251640735 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1251640736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pun fault < 1251640736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No command: q < 1251640742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640751 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd ..; ls < 1251640780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin /absolutely_not_cthulhu /kernel /lib /home /boring_system_stuff < 1251640781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640789 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls boring_system_stuff < 1251640815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/some_sort_of_proc_shit /filesystem_drivers /god_I_hate_being_an_operating_system /all_the_rest_of_the_boring_system_stuff < 1251640816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640823 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Hey, what happened to /root < 1251640828 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd root < 1251640835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640844 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd ..; ls root < 1251640851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such directory: root < 1251640857 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# O_o < 1251640860 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tree < 1251640870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too fucking lazy to: tree < 1251640871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640879 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :find -name root < 1251640884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Try meditating or something) < 1251640922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640927 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls home < 1251640962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/adam /eve /grunt /urgh /eurr /fafa /dookadoo Too many files in directory, aborting < 1251640963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251640976 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls home/adam home/eve < 1251640999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adam: original_sin divorce_papers < 1251641003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eve: original_sin apple < 1251641006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641027 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :file home/{adam,eve}/* < 1251641043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :original_sin: Sin < 1251641049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :divorce_papers: Microsoft Word document < 1251641052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :original_sin: Sin < 1251641057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apple: It's, uhh, an apple < 1251641058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641062 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# :-D < 1251641091 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :file /absolutely_not_cthulhu/* # Let's get this show on the road < 1251641127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fhtagn: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA$ < 1251641152 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1251641155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641160 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv home/eve/apple /absolutely_not_cthulhu/fhtagn < 1251641176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Permission denied < 1251641178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641186 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoami < 1251641190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :root < 1251641191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641211 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -l home/eve/apple absolutely_not_cthulhu/fhtagn < 1251641217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Permission denied < 1251641221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1251641224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^H^H^H^H^H < 1251641230 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be separate for each, no < 1251641230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :home/apple/eve < 1251641234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely_not_cthulhu/fhtagn < 1251641235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641245 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls --version < 1251641260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :info: Terminal type unknown < 1251641262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641284 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stat home/eve/apple absolutely_not_cthulhu/fhtagn < 1251641310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ETOOLAZY < 1251641310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION snickers
< 1251641337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, < 1251641338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641338 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stat home/eve/apple absolutely_not_cthulhu/fhtagn | grep Access | grep Uid | awk '{print $2}' # IWANTTHEPERMISSIONSDAMMIT < 1251641369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I liked the IWC annotation today btw < 1251641380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apple: Access: like a whore! Uid: snake < 1251641391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fhtagn: Access: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA$ < 1251641391 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# awk fail < 1251641398 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chown root:root home home/eve absolutely_not_cthulhu < 1251641409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# In the grim future of the universe, awk does nothing < 1251641413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641425 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod ugo+x home home/eve absolutely_not_cthulhu < 1251641434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such directory: home < 1251641435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641440 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Firk ding blast < 1251641441 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251641474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/captured_souls /inner_sphere_of_evil /absolutely_not_cthulhu /demonic_systematic_happenings /tools_of_torture /instruments_of_torture < 1251641474 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, me too. < 1251641476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641490 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ls < 1251641508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tools_of_torture/ls < 1251641509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641515 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo $PATH < 1251641525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641537 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :these cthulhux systems are so confusing < 1251641539 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# You sure ls isn't a shell builtin then? :-P < 1251641543 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :env < 1251641559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SECRET_LAIR=/tools_of_torture < 1251641566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HIDDEN_COMPARTMENT=/instruments_of_torture < 1251641570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVIL=yes < 1251641571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641576 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :export EVIL=no < 1251641583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641587 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :env | grep EVIL < 1251641592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVIL=very yes < 1251641593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641599 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :export GOOD=yes < 1251641603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641603 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :env | grep -e EVIL -e GOOD < 1251641619 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: yes, me too. <-- XD < 1251641619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVIL=extremely < 1251641625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD=not...really, no < 1251641626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641638 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :export NEUTRAL=extremely < 1251641641 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :env | grep -e EVIL -e GOOD -e NEUTRAL < 1251641643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1251641652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVIL=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA$ < 1251641663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1251641678 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :df < 1251641705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name Used Available Mount < 1251641734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/demonic_systematic_happenings/fabric_of_'pataphysics ∞ ∞ / < 1251641735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641761 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umount demonic_systematic_happenings/fabric_of_\'pataphysics < 1251641773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? (y/N) < 1251641784 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :N < 1251641789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641793 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Way to confuse me there < 1251641794 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umount / < 1251641807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you not sure? (y/N) < 1251641812 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :N < 1251641821 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm* < 1251641825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't you not not unsure about not doing that? (y/n) < 1251641843 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does logic have to do with cthulhu? < 1251641849 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1251641882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Permission denied < 1251641883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641905 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls tools_of_torture < 1251641921 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoami < 1251641921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/libevil.so /useless_cruft < 1251641925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :root < 1251641926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641953 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod 777 tools_of_torture/libevil.so; rm -rf tools_of_torture/libevil.so < 1251641969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251641988 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls tools_of_torture < 1251641994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1251641995 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Should've used -v < 1251641996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tools is binaries < 1251642002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instruments are libraries < 1251642005 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was, previously, yes :-P < 1251642009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1251642011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/libnotevil.so /useless_cruft < 1251642012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642067 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod 777 tools_of_torture/libnotevil.so; rm -rfv tools_of_torture/libnotevil.so; ls tools_of_torture < 1251642088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Removing tools_of_torture/libnotevil.so < 1251642092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/useless_cruft < 1251642093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642104 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls instruments_of_torture < 1251642112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642123 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -rfv tools_of_torture instruments_of_torture < 1251642151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tools_of_torture/useless_cruft/libnotevil.so: Permission denied < 1251642156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Removing instruments_of_torture < 1251642157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642174 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod -Rv 777 / < 1251642175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# (Note: yes, this is winnable :P) < 1251642179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642187 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Did you miss the -v? < 1251642187 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251642207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I'm far too lazy to write out every human being ever, dude < 1251642215 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Then summarize < 1251642222 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ls anyway < 1251642228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/a //b //c /£¢`˘ˀSegmentation fault$ < 1251642230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1251642233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/a /b /c /£¢`˘ˀSegmentation fault$ < 1251642251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Deewiant: Operating on infinite amounts of data at once can lead to weirdness < 1251642293 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls a b c < 1251642301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642315 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -al . a b c < 1251642337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root /a < 1251642340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root /b < 1251642341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root /c < 1251642345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a: < 1251642350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root . < 1251642351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root .. < 1251642352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b: < 1251642354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root . < 1251642356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root .. < 1251642357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c: < 1251642358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root . < 1251642360 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir a b c < 1251642360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root .. < 1251642364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# (Spot the clue!) < 1251642366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642380 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251642387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642391 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir . < 1251642397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.: Directory exists < 1251642398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642403 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir .. < 1251642404 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd .. < 1251642409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# (Swing and a miss) < 1251642412 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251642423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642425 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pwd < 1251642431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/.. < 1251642435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642440 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd // < 1251642444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642455 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alias ls 'ls -a'; ls < 1251642461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. .. < 1251642462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642471 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pwd < 1251642474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ < 1251642475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642483 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd .; pwd < 1251642490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/. < 1251642491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642505 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Woo, slashdot < 1251642507 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251642515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin /absolutely_not_cthulhu /kernel /lib /home /boring_system_stuff < 1251642517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# (No, you're not at square one) < 1251642535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642549 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls home < 1251642561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EEXACTLYTHESAMEASBEFORE < 1251642562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642571 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls absolutely_not_cthulhu < 1251642577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642589 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir absolutely_not_cthulhu < 1251642600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely_not_cthulhu: No such file < 1251642601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642610 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Not "No such directory"? < 1251642613 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251642622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Is this meant to be logical? < 1251642629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/how /dare /you /disturb /me /mortal < 1251642630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642635 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd .. < 1251642639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642641 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251642649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/absolutely_not_cthulhu < 1251642650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642655 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# :-D < 1251642663 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pwd < 1251642670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/./.. < 1251642671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642680 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd / < 1251642681 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251642699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. .. < 1251642700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642709 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd ..; ls < 1251642717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. .. < 1251642718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642719 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd ..; ls < 1251642729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. . < 1251642730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642737 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd ..; ls < 1251642744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA$ < 1251642756 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251642762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642777 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pwd < 1251642790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642796 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# :-S < 1251642799 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd < 1251642806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642809 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251642814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642821 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pwd < 1251642830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/root < 1251642831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Don't expect it to turn logical or anything, though you are nearing completion < 1251642863 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I.e. you're nearing boredom < 1251642869 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd /; ls < 1251642872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# No, I'm not bored < 1251642875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. .. < 1251642876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642897 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd ./../absolutely_not_cthulhu; ls < 1251642929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things a mere mortal is not meant to know. (By this I mean EFUCKYOUIMNOTGOINGTOGOAAAAAGAINIMJUSTADIRECTORYLISTINGPROGRAM) < 1251642930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642942 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pwd < 1251642942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Every file is sentient here! < 1251642952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/./../absolutely_not_cthulhu < 1251642953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251642956 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251642959 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ls; ldd `which ls` < 1251642960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# hi ais523 < 1251642964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# we're battling cthulhu < 1251642975 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# We are? OK < 1251642980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Okay, you are < 1251642985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# sec < 1251642986 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# OK < 1251642993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/ls < 1251642997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ldd: ls is statically linked < 1251642998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643005 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd /bin < 1251643012 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'are the comment characters because someone'\''s piping #esoteric into a shell script?' < 1251643031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls cat dd ldd cthulhuise vi ... < 1251643032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643038 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Naw, I do think he's making it up as we go along < 1251643048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# You don't say < 1251643057 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251643060 0 :Leonidas!n=Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1251643061 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./... < 1251643082 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Btw, I didn't ls after cd /bin but whatever < 1251643092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...! ...! Everybody ...! < 1251643092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# INTRIGUING < 1251643110 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls /dev < 1251643120 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^C < 1251643121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such file: /dev < 1251643122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643143 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd if=./... of=cthulhuise bs=1 < 1251643150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643166 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -l ./... ./cthulhuise < 1251643183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root ... < 1251643187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root cthulhuise < 1251643188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643191 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Gah, no filesizes < 1251643194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Protip: You have vi < 1251643200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# (Also wc) < 1251643204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Also file < 1251643231 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo $PATH # Where is all this clap trap coming from < 1251643255 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :env # That won't work anyway < 1251643261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin:^lazy_ex_machina < 1251643270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PATH=/bin:^lazy_ex_machina < 1251643271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643281 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :file * < 1251643284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# (It's pretty much standard tools in thar) < 1251643298 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Except when it isn't and they don't work < 1251643305 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# "GNU Male" < 1251643308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls cat dd ldd vi: Executable < 1251643317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cthulhise ...: Script of some sort < 1251643327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Yes, in the year 3000 gnu mail is renamed GNU Male < 1251643330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# What's your point < 1251643330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643347 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wc -c * < 1251643374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: ∞ < 1251643375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ∞ < 1251643376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd: ∞ < 1251643378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ldd: ∞ < 1251643379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi: ∞ < 1251643388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cthulhise: Some thousands and such < 1251643390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...: Some thousands and such < 1251643391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643419 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff -qs ./... cthulhise < 1251643426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643437 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# -s not working? < 1251643448 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff --version < 1251643463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Files are identical < 1251643466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I printed out "$" to trick you < 1251643473 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# :-P < 1251643473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU diff "smartass edition" < 1251643474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251643492 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Typical < 1251643505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Are you avoiding the obvious < 1251643506 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi ./... < 1251643512 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-12-170.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251643522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi: Terminal unknown, starting ed < 1251643532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to Microsoft Bob's "restricted ed!" < 1251643583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It pretty much hates you) < 1251643586 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g/./ < 1251643596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643621 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1251643633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It only has like 5 commands) < 1251643676 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading the man page for what is presumably GNU ed, I'm trying to get any kind of output here < 1251643688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try something very, very simple < 1251643701 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those were simple :-P < 1251643708 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have to read about line addressing < 1251643709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not very, very simple < 1251643717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: No, one character will help < 1251643722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's non-alphabetical < 1251643750 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.p < 1251643764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(EONLYONECHARACTERCOMMANDSSUPPORTED) < 1251643765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643769 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1251643770 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ... < 1251643796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...: Some thousands and such <-- over 9000? < 1251643800 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# See, this is why FUCK MS BOB ED < 1251643806 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I hate you too, Deewiant! < 1251643812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# version 0.1 < 1251643822 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^D^C < 1251643825 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat ./... < 1251643826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643831 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^Z < 1251643834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643844 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643844 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643844 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643844 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643844 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643847 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643850 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643852 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643853 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.................................. < 1251643855 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop spamming? < 1251643865 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# It broke? < 1251643866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643866 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1251643868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Protip http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251643892 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# . should still work < 1251643899 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Unless it broke < 1251643905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# EIDONTLIKESPAMMERS < 1251643910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Also ECANWEMOVEONPLEASE < 1251643914 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1251643915 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q < 1251643917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :capital ? < 1251643932 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251643939 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# If editing this file with ed, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251643948 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I repeat: If editing this file with ed, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251643966 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1251643998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# In case you're blind: If editing this file with ed, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251644005 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ?! < 1251644014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251644026 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the thing practically by heart anyway and I don't see anything particularly helpful there < 1251644055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Remember that this OS favours the most ridiculous solution < 1251644069 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also remember that it only supports one-character commands < 1251644086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, that isn't help. It is a joke about ed < 1251644086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# All rules are malleable if it is funnier that way < 1251644096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# clap clap, AnMaster < 1251644097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# clap clap. < 1251644098 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Screw you < 1251644101 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat flaming death < 1251644102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so it would help < 1251644109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Om nom nom nom nom AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA$ < 1251644123 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251644151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls vi cat dd ldd vi cthulhise ... < 1251644152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what is the ubuntuish way to mount nfs? I can do it by command line, but surely ubuntu has some nice GUI way? < 1251644161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Connect to server in Nautilus or sth < 1251644164 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat ./... < 1251644175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...: Directory, not a file, doofus < 1251644175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1251644180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse that < 1251644183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that $ was tricking you < 1251644184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, looked there, had FTP, SSH(fs), webdav, samba, but no nfs < 1251644191 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Say what? < 1251644193 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -la < 1251644196 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^C < 1251644204 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -laF < 1251644207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Uhh, you copied ... to cthulhise < 1251644211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# And edited it with ed < 1251644216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# What, exactly, are you expecting < 1251644223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Oh you cat it < 1251644227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Right, er, let's try that again < 1251644228 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251644230 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# :-P < 1251644253 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Reading comprehension for the win < 1251644291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# *disk krrrrrnks* < 1251644349 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I expect at least the "If editing this file with ed" stuff < 1251644357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ... < 1251644358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# version 0.1 < 1251644358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Protip http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251644358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# If editing this file with ed, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251644358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I repeat: If editing this file with ed, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.htm < 1251644359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# In case you're blind: If editing this file with ed, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251644360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I wonder who I'm talking to when I say: If editing this file with ed, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251644363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [ "$0" = "cthulhise" ]; then < 1251644365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : evil --very=yes & < 1251644367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : disown < 1251644369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi < 1251644371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$0! $0! Everybody $0!" < 1251644381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# THE PLOT THICKENS < 1251644382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644393 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Should I know what disown is? < 1251644398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yes < 1251644402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Ys < 1251644404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Yes < 1251644410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# You may have done it as "nohup prog" instead < 1251644412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it is shell built in < 1251644421 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Ah, ok < 1251644422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, try: help disown < 1251644423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in basjh < 1251644424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash* < 1251644431 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# (In zsh I usually do 'prog &!' instead < 1251644432 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ) < 1251644443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Anyway I didn't say evil was part of /bin did I? weird < 1251644449 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# No, you certainly didn't < 1251644451 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which evil < 1251644458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^lazy_ex_machina/evil < 1251644459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# DUN DUN DUN < 1251644465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644470 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# :-P < 1251644496 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251644505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESAMEASBEFORE < 1251644506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644514 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I can't see it, I need a reminder < 1251644523 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Oh, there, nvm < 1251644532 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Still two vi's? < 1251644541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# We have two vis? < 1251644543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# We're so lucky < 1251644544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I never noticed < 1251644551 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd "^lazy_ex_machina" < 1251644568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644570 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# (Dunno about this shell but ^ is often a metachar) < 1251644572 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251644585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil [[Hidden files]] < 1251644586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644600 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -l < 1251644614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000-00-00 00:00 root root evil < 1251644617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Hidden files]] < 1251644618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644632 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wc -c evil < 1251644646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil: ∞ < 1251644647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644669 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd if=/bin/... of=evil bs=∞ < 1251644676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644680 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wc -c evil < 1251644689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil: Some thousands < 1251644689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644704 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :env < 1251644716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PATH=/bin:^lazy_ex_machina < 1251644717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVIL=partly < 1251644719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# GASP < 1251644734 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unset EVIL < 1251644744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You cannot destroy evil < 1251644750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can only redefine evil to be yourself < 1251644753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And make yourself good < 1251644763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you sign up now for the Scientology starter pack, we'll AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA$ < 1251644769 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# :-D < 1251644774 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :export GOOD=yes < 1251644785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said you can only make yourself good < 1251644790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA$ < 1251644795 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :export EVIL=root GOOD=yes < 1251644805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You become evil. < 1251644810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAHAHAHAHHA GOOD? I AM NOT GOOD < 1251644811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAHAHA < 1251644815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mwa$haha> < 1251644822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# wrong track, btw < 1251644824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# close tho. < 1251644827 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Hmm, would GOOD=root been a better idea? :-P < 1251644832 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# +have < 1251644848 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^Uls < 1251644859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil [[Hidden files]] < 1251644861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644870 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :env < 1251644882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PATH=/bin:^lazy_ex_machina < 1251644886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ON_THE_RIGHT_TRACK=no < 1251644887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644904 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :export ON_THE_RIGHT_TRACK=yes < 1251644912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644928 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251644933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil [[Hidden files]] < 1251644934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251644949 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd "[[Hidden files]]" < 1251644968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESYMBOLICREPRESENTATIONNOTANACTUALFILEIAMNOTTHATDUMBALSOYOUREONTHEWRONGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA$ < 1251644980 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Dammit < 1251644981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# That's a new one < 1251644994 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls / < 1251645019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/cthulhu_infection < 1251645020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645043 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd /cthulhu_infection; ls < 1251645052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your_utter_failure < 1251645052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Ouch < 1251645061 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -f your_utter_failure < 1251645073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attempting to put you on the right track... Done < 1251645074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645094 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls / < 1251645101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/cthulhu_infection < 1251645103 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pwd < 1251645109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^lazy_ex_machina < 1251645110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645112 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls < 1251645119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evil [[Hidden files]] < 1251645119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645139 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./evil # Screw it < 1251645150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starting evild... done < 1251645151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645159 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat evil # Y'wot? < 1251645172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ... < 1251645172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# version 0.1 < 1251645173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Protip http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251645173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# If editing this file with ed, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251645173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I repeat: If editing this file with ed, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.htm < 1251645173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# In case you're blind: If editing this file with ed, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251645175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I wonder who I'm talking to when I say: If editing this file with ed, see http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1251645178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [ "$0" = "cthulhise" ]; then < 1251645180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : evil --very=yes & < 1251645182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : disown < 1251645184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi < 1251645186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [ "$0" = "evil" ]; then < 1251645188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : evild --start --pid=^stash/evild.pid $* < 1251645190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi < 1251645192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$0! $0! Everybody $0!" < 1251645194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645201 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Meh. < 1251645212 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat ^stash/evild.pid < 1251645217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :666 < 1251645218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# You should win in a few commands < 1251645232 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill -9 666 < 1251645243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaoh, what a relief. < 1251645244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645266 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :export GOOD=yes < 1251645271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1251645271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645287 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm evil `which evild` `which cthulhise` < 1251645296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Close < 1251645301 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm `which cthulhuise` < 1251645303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# You missed one < 1251645308 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Not sure if that was a typo back then or not < 1251645319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a hallucination :P < 1251645323 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -rf /cthulhu_infection < 1251645336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evild: beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep < 1251645338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Permission denied < 1251645339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I told you! < 1251645340 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evild --stop < 1251645343 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1251645346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1251645347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Do I have to spell it out to you < 1251645360 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls ^stash < 1251645361 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo start-stop-demon --stop --exe 'evild' < 1251645367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/evild.pid < 1251645369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645377 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat ^stash/evild.pid < 1251645381 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# note: misspelling is not intentional, but ought to have been < 1251645383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :666 < 1251645390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Deewiant. Think about it. < 1251645391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# What did you just manage to wipe out? < 1251645421 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill -9 666 < 1251645435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAthank god, wait didn't this happen before? < 1251645437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evild: Beep! < 1251645438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# The other one < 1251645461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Files < 1251645502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Deewiant: You can win in a single-digit number of commands < 1251645504 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# There's no more evil or evild or cthulhise... if evild restarted itself before it can't do that now; now it simply refuses to die? < 1251645522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# What happened when you copied cthulhise to evil? < 1251645534 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# We got extra evil < 1251645544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# But dd just copies files wholesale < 1251645570 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Sure; I'm missing your point. Even if the original got changed it should be gone now as well < 1251645580 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Oh, fuck < 1251645583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# :) < 1251645583 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm /bin/... < 1251645587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# (You didn't check to see what was in there :-( ) < 1251645602 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill -9 666 < 1251645604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# For the record it was: < 1251645605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if [ "$0" = "..." ]; then < 1251645606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : evild --constantly-replenish-just-by-being-in-the-file < 1251645606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi < 1251645614 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# heh < 1251645616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAtell me this is the final time, otherwise I hate you. < 1251645618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evild: Beep. :) < 1251645619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# What was the last error you got < 1251645631 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# "Beep!"? < 1251645641 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Or "Permission denied" < 1251645641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# That's not an error. < 1251645655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Yes < 1251645683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Deewiant: And < 1251645696 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ... < 1251645704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# The error was from < 1251645723 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Presumably the shell or whatever; regardless, evild beeped so I'm assuming it was it who stopped me somehow < 1251645730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# What command < 1251645734 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# rm < 1251645740 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls /cthulhu_infection < 1251645750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/evild_replenisher < 1251645751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645760 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :file /cthulhu_infection/evild_replenisher < 1251645772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evild_replenisher: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA$ < 1251645778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Hint: The OS is multitasking < 1251645779 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Dammit :-P < 1251645806 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm /cthulhu_infection/evild_replenisher < 1251645813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evild: Bop < 1251645815 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# With any luck only the dir is protected < 1251645816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Permission denied < 1251645816 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# D'oh < 1251645825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I give hints because you need to use them, dude < 1251645862 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/sbin/telinit 6 < 1251645894 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill -9 `pidof evild_replenisher` # This can't possibly help < 1251645906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENOTABINARY < 1251645906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251645924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Yo, dude, remember how you killed evild and wiped out ...? < 1251645941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# But evild restarts before you get a prompt, and the file can't be deleted while it's running < 1251645948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Tip: The processor is infinitely fast < 1251645963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# But is single-core < 1251645966 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I thought it never died, just beeped when I tried to kill it < 1251645970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# You fig out the rest < 1251645975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait < 1251645977 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Or was that another hallucination?! < 1251645977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You're right < 1251645979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :retcon time < 1251645982 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1251645983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# It's infinitely fast and dual-core < 1251646002 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# I already had the while loop to kill it typed out and all when I realized that :-P < 1251646004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# And also multitasking, therefore < 1251646028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# You must... obvious < 1251646071 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while ! kill -9 666 &>/dev/null; do done & while ! rm -rfv /cthulhu_infection; do done & < 1251646079 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Guess they can't hurt if it's infinitely fast < 1251646101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EOVERCOMPLICATINGTHINGSTHEREARENOTIMINGISSUESINTHISOS < 1251646103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251646119 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(){:|:&};: < 1251646140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Fix that then one more command to win < 1251646165 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(){kill -9 666;:|:&}:& # ??? < 1251646169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EOVERCOMPLICATINGTHINGSTHEREARENOIMINGISSUESINTHISOST <-- I don't manage to parse the bit after the NOT (IMINGISSUESINTHISOS) < 1251646179 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: NO TIMING (...) < 1251646183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1251646201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are not I'm in gissues in this OS < 1251646207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENODEEWIANT < 1251646212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EYOUHADITALMOSTRIGHTBEFORE < 1251646216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EBUTWHATDOTHELOOPSHELP? < 1251646217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251646224 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Exactly, they don't < 1251646231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Then < 1251646241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple < 1251646243 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Since evild is unkillable and I can't touch anything of it without its permission I'm failing to see what's doable < 1251646249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Dual-core < 1251646256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1251646262 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exorcise -9 666; < 1251646271 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while ! kill -9 666 &>/dev/null; do done & while ! kill -9 666 &>/dev/null; do done & # ??? < 1251646277 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# It can only stop one attempt a time? < 1251646284 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# +at < 1251646287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EITOLDYOUTHATWHILESDONTHELP < 1251646287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251646291 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# In which case the forkbomb should have worked as well < 1251646300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Technically yours should work < 1251646301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's trivial < 1251646303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# But it's missing the point :P < 1251646315 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill -9 666 & kill -9 666 # ??? < 1251646324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no < 1251646326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yours wouldn't work < 1251646326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evild: Beep. evild: Beep. < 1251646344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :load a kernel module which does the thing < 1251646345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Deewiant: Jesus christ man, a file keeps a d and the d keeps the file, and you have a dual-core processor with no timing issues < 1251646355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# it's blindingly obvious < 1251646371 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# If the two things protect each other 100% and there's no way to do anything in between... it's impossible?! < 1251646378 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mount --bind /dev/null /cthulu_infection -o loopback < 1251646383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# In between, yes < 1251646384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# DUAL CORE < 1251646387 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've probably messed up the syntax there < 1251646388 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There was no /dev/null last I checked < 1251646395 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what do you think of my solution, anyway? < 1251646399 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or /dev at all, anyway < 1251646402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, "meanwhile" < 1251646403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: evild is too smart for your mortal musings < 1251646411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, just kill from the other cpu < 1251646413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and remove < 1251646421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster gets it right for once! < 1251646425 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say what? < 1251646425 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of deleting the directory, rebind over it so it's inaccessible < 1251646431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, a simple asm program making two syscalls < 1251646432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is all < 1251646433 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is determined to find an unintended solution to this
< 1251646435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# No asm needed < 1251646441 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sure is XD < 1251646446 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it would be possible in asm, though < 1251646450 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as it can be done in C < 1251646450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# No it's not, this OS is very clever with & < 1251646457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: And shell < 1251646462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile you need to hog the other CPU to prevent evild running at the same time < 1251646463 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kill from the other CPU? But I thought the thing can block anything < 1251646470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need to set CPU affinity as well < 1251646475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Deewiant: (kill;rm) and (rm;kill) both fail. < 1251646479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to keep both cores busy < 1251646481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1251646482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Deewiant: But we have two perfectly-synchronised CPUs. < 1251646484 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: kill & kill also did < 1251646491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Yes, and? < 1251646494 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ehird's suggesting you do kill & rm < 1251646496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# They failed because the file was there < 1251646496 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a boring solution < 1251646502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ais523: No shit, it's also obvious < 1251646509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# He's done all the hard stuff < 1251646522 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill from one and rm from the other? < 1251646545 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that it can then block one but not the other? What happened to "infinitely fast"? < 1251646560 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which CPU is evild running on, by the way? < 1251646578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Deewiant: They're perfectly synchronised < 1251646590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Deewiant: Also, infinitely fast, yes < 1251646592 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's what you meant by "no timing issues"? < 1251646594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# But still ordered < 1251646596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Yes < 1251646609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Which is why the double-kill wouldn't work < 1251646613 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should have asked for clarification as to what you meant by "timing issues" < 1251646621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Probably < 1251646622 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: if they're infinitely fast, I'd be solving the Riemann Hypothesis, rather than bothering with evild < 1251646633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ais523: It would tell you ENICETRY < 1251646645 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, whatever < 1251646652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251646667 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, yay I wrote a Dudley's Dungeon comic that people actually like: http://alt.org/nethack/dudley/?f=2009.8.30 < 1251646677 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Forgetting about the fact that by the time the fork is done the first command is finished... < 1251646678 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill -9 666 & rm -rf /cthulhu_infection < 1251646686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that thing is STILL going? < 1251646691 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait different website? < 1251646693 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, people enjoy it < 1251646695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, different website < 1251646698 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why you hadn't noticed < 1251646707 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one on sadowl is also still going, but more slowly < 1251646713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I stopped reading it long long ago < 1251646716 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the original original one isn't < 1251646722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, shadowl? < 1251646723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evild: BeeAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaawhat's happening? did you do it afucking gain? Oh gop! ...p! :(is it over now? evild: beeeeeeeeeex I, yawn, need some rest after that. Maybe a reboot would help. < 1251646724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251646731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and yeah the original is all I knew about < 1251646737 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/sbin/restart < 1251646745 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reboot < 1251646752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killing all processes... < 1251646755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rebooting... < 1251646757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251646759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booting... < 1251646763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starting services... < 1251646763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ln -s /sbin/reboot /sbin/restart ; /sbin/restart < 1251646770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booting face party program... < 1251646776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :˝| : I feel like hours just passed < 1251646779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1251646782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE END < 1251646802 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay hooray < 1251646807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1251646840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: you just lost hours of your time < 1251646859 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, CCBI's been running at 100% CPU usage all this time < 1251646861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sadowl, btw, not shadowl < 1251646871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: wat < 1251646873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I said sadowl, it's AnMaster who typoed it < 1251646876 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time well spent < 1251646879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah < 1251646882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What's it doing < 1251646887 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://sadowl.com/dudley/ < 1251646891 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undergoing benchmarking < 1251646899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Beating cfunge? :P < 1251646910 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's CCBI1, which is why it's been all this time < 1251646920 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's occasionally even slower than Language::Befunge, I've noticed < 1251646927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, XD < 1251646930 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what's going on in that hashtable implementation < 1251646934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, thats...... impressive < 1251646935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What program, slowdown? < 1251646943 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, just simple stuff < 1251646953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1251646954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how simple < 1251646963 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The current one, which took 8966 seconds, is a 6000*6000 square of > and v and ^ ending in f.@ < 1251646969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch < 1251646976 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC cfunge takes about 30 seconds on it < 1251646987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Far too long! < 1251646994 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree ;-) < 1251646994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, care to filebin it? < 1251647001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'll have a look at it < 1251647005 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, but I can pastebin the script that generates it < 1251647016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ok would work if it is deterministic < 1251647028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, it was only about one and a half hours that took < 1251647032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok, more like 1+45 minutes < 1251647040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, felt like much longer < 1251647042 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://funge.pastebin.com/f5c673a86 < 1251647058 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The issue is how it does mem allocation < 1251647069 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes up to over 2 gigs quite quickly < 1251647072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant < 1251647074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game < 1251647081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I think increasing the size of the static area would be the way to go < 1251647087 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it starts allocating at a rate of about 16M every minute or so < 1251647090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, AnMaster < 1251647093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have a 6000x6000 static area < 1251647110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for obvious reasons this would be bad < 1251647117 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /will/ increase the sizes to get out of your damn static areas, no matter how big you make them :-P < 1251647126 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, dynamic static areas? < 1251647127 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1251647130 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds interesting < 1251647135 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I say that? < 1251647147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Battling to write a program cfunge is slow on is basically battling against a very slow form of hardcoding the output < 1251647155 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1251647159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :detecting a lot of static area misses... using mmap() and grow static area < 1251647159 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No worries < 1251647160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1251647164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a nice idea < 1251647173 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 1*100000000 benchmarks as well < 1251647175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: thinking oxymorons are a nice idea since forever < 1251647185 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I doubt he'll make it that big by default ;-) < 1251647193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well static area would be the wrong term yes < 1251647193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or will he < 1251647203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Do you know what dynamic static areas are called? < 1251647203 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100000000^2 is a lot of integers < 1251647204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AREAS < 1251647217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah. Arenas here < 1251647219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly < 1251647228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't even funny, meaningful or anything < 1251647231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will summarily ignore it < 1251647246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it wasn't supposed to be funny... < 1251647257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was supposed to be meaningful though < 1251647280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only ever say "clearly" when you're attempting to be funny, AnMaster. < 1251647296 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, if so I wasn't aware of it < 1251647307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no I wasn't meaning to be funny < 1251647315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's your subconscious valiantly trying to save you from your awfulness. < 1251647320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By blotting out awareness. < 1251647333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about pyalloc's areans < 1251647343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... it isn't like I would have time to implement this any time soon < 1251647391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the worst reference ever < 1251647400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should feel bad. < 1251647404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it wasn't supposed to be _funny_ at all < 1251647409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1251647410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And < 1251647431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I was thinking it would be an appropriate name for 2D areas here. < 1251647491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, still... my hash library is far from slow so meh < 1251647580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what language was that paste in... < 1251647598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D < 1251647600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D v2 < 1251647604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it says perl < 1251647605 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1251647618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And here I was trying to save Deewiant from the endless barrage of questions about the program < 1251647648 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1251647665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the subject of discussion? < 1251647681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfunge being microoptimised for one program yet again < 1251647682 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://funge.pastebin.com/f5c673a86 and cfunge? < 1251647692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it prints a single char? < 1251647709 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ARGV[0] not enough of a hint? < 1251647711 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give it an argument < 1251647723 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should print 4 chars without any arguments, though < 1251647726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ok I should have given it a longer name than t.pl? < 1251647732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argv0 is program name after all < 1251647736 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in perl it isn't < 1251647747 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In perl it's like you C folks' argv[1] < 1251647752 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the number of Befunge programs is sufficiently small that you could probably micro-optimise for each of them individually < 1251647760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster is a master of turning his brain off intentionally whenever he is faced with a language he hasn't given purposeful effort to lear < 1251647761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1251647780 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what is program name then? < 1251647785 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1251647790 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1251647794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$0 < 1251647795 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask ais523 or fizzie, they know Perl < 1251647807 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or get an answer from ehird, that works too < 1251647810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so who wrote that program? < 1251647814 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1251647816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mike Riley < 1251647817 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using much googling < 1251647819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: C's argv[0] is Perl's $0, C's argv[1] is Perl's $ARGV[0] < 1251647829 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah < 1251647829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No it's not, C predates Perl < 1251647832 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was originally in shell script < 1251647833 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-169-7-142.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251647834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the other way around < 1251647842 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm using "is" in the sense of "means the same thing" < 1251647846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in the sense of "was based on" < 1251647847 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it turns out that doing 3000000 echoes is slow as shit < 1251647851 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my relation is commutative < 1251647852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to be as stupid as AnMaster to see what it's like < 1251647864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry if it inconveniences anyone else :P < 1251647865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understood it < 1251647872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what language was perl originally coded in then? < 1251647880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl. < 1251647889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sussman wrote the first Perl implementation, in Perl. < 1251647897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then another was written in Ada to execute the first one. < 1251647899 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, self interpreters are nice, but you need something to bootstrap it < 1251647900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by Larry Wall) < 1251647914 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think it was in C :-P < 1251647917 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: blatant lying is probably not a good idea < 1251647924 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the first impl was Larry Wall's C impl perl1 < 1251647930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It is when faced with someone who is both stupid and unable to use google < 1251647939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perl doesn't predate C then :P < 1251647946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... never said that. < 1251647956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:57] ehird: ais523: No it's not, C predates Perl < 1251647958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're dumb, btw. < 1251647960 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1251648020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread the order < 1251648044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, use a better hash table btw < 1251648059 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it can't be too hard to implement one yourself < 1251648060 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather not update CCBI1 more < 1251648061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yes sir < 1251648063 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes it can < 1251648074 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one in Tango which would probably be better < 1251648077 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's beside the point < 1251648097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what one do you use now then? < 1251648102 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The D builtin one < 1251648105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251648122 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I guess also comes from Tango though < 1251648126 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu" < 1251648133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAA < 1251648134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just clicked it < 1251648135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Halp < 1251648142 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1251648151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never have visited TV Tropes < 1251648155 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trick with TV Tropes is to read it all < 1251648161 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you won't get stuck again < 1251648165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, XD < 1251648173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried that, didn't work < 1251648176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot half the pages < 1251648177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251648183 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, s/read/read and remember/ < 1251648188 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that one, for instance :-P < 1251648194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, the trick is to set a CSS to hide the links < 1251648203 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In your IRC client? < 1251648224 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no when you clicked < 1251648229 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: if you use Chatzilla, you could < 1251648244 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and probably in several others too < 1251648245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand you'd have to use chatzilla < 1251648250 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly :-P < 1251648257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1251648260 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.91.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251648264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did that just to see if it would work < 1251648267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did I do that? < 1251648270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it works! < 1251648275 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1251648280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cmd-W to leave < 1251648286 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1251648404 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I should just benchmark the fast interpreters and forget about these slow ones < 1251648425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spoiler: cfunge wins < 1251648464 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not the only kind of result one can get :-P < 1251648482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: True... until the next cfunge release. < 1251648503 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251648504 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean that somebody else would win < 1251648517 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that the type of data is not only "X wins" < 1251648527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, you could make a pie chart < 1251648529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no < 1251648536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't have enough pixels for the non-cfunge segments < 1251648538 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been plotting memory usage vs. time < 1251648596 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the memory usage and time data gathered on different runs, but anyway; it's scientific! < 1251648741 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't you measure on the same run? < 1251648747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic < 1251648757 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can, I just didn't < 1251648796 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather the time measurements are separate, since the mem measurer uses up CPU by itself < 1251648828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know who else uses CPU by herself < 1251648830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hitler < 1251648849 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could of course save time measurements for the memory run as well to get more accurate plots, I just haven't < 1251649380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dashik < 1251649407 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dashik? < 1251649426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIk < 1251649434 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1251649579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Spoiler: cfunge wins < 1251649579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : That's not the only kind of result one can get :-P < 1251649579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Deewiant: True... until the next cfunge release. < 1251649583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jitfunge? < 1251649594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it wouldn't manage well on that grid thingy < 1251649600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will never be completed < 1251649602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it only runs any code once it seems < 1251649606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true < 1251649668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I've been plotting memory usage vs. time <-- cfunge would use a large amount of RAM compared to time < 1251649671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1251649685 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it easily hits 10 MB or so for the "baseline" iirc < 1251649686 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Not at all, compared to L::B and CCBI1 :-P < 1251649697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, interesting... < 1251649716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Further proving cfunge's perfect superiority! < 1251649738 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the end all three use a fairly similar amount of memory, of course, since they all use hashtables of ints < 1251649769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't a 32-bit funge only need 4GB- wait, no, that's 16-bit < 1251649774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32-bit would need (large)GB < 1251649784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a point < 1251649793 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(large)GB for what < 1251649796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an N-bit funge needs an (N*2)-bit address space < 1251649803 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1251649803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Storing the whole of fungespace < 1251649814 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, don't do that :-P < 1251649820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1251649832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, that means a conformant funge MUST be (cpubits/2)-bit or less < 1251649834 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, isn't it 2^32 * 2^32 even < 1251649839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's bothersome < 1251649859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1251649865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is 2^(32+32) < 1251649866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1251650003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcdsuckssuxsuckssux.blogspot.com/ < 1251650015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, all the previous chains exist) < 1251650021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also http://xkcdsuckscommentboxsucks.blogspot.com/ < 1251650036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And http://xkcdisaparagonofhilarity.blogspot.com/ and http://xkcdisaparagonofhilaritysucks.blogspot.com/ < 1251650222 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251650288 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1251650411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/j9wrB.jpg < 1251650428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insert esolang-related joke < 1251650430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there is one < 1251650434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't think of a a decent one right now < 1251650528 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Emmissions" < 1251650825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A typo < 1251650826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1251650836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In an infographic from the internet no less < 1251650927 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1251650936 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How dare they put a typo in my Internet < 1251651001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pawfal.org/fluxus/documentation/ < 1251651002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god <3 < 1251651012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme + live coding + 3d + based on audio + stuff = too cool < 1251651081 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In effect, we conjure the spirits of the synthesizer with our spells? < 1251651096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, the synthesizer conjures the spirits of the 3d cubes with its spells < 1251651216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just great < 1251651270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's turned into a waggling cube penis. < 1251651281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay now THAT'S cool < 1251651345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So pretty < 1251651353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, the blur blurs the editor too < 1251651411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would make a good video for the track < 1251652634 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.neatorama.com/2007/01/18/cthulhu-buns/ < 1251652669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE < 1251652676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1251652676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251652904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Chinese workers have covered a giant steel bridge with butter because officials are fed up with traffic jams caused by people who slow down to watch suicide victims leaping to their death." < 1251652909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the justification ther < 1251652909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1251652918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't care about the actual suicides, hell no! < 1251652956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and we put up special fences and notices asking people not to commit suicide here" < 1251652968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Out of consideration for others, please kill yourself in your own home!" < 1251652971 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why would covering it with butter help? < 1251652980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Bridge guard Wong Man said: "The butter makes the bars and frames slippery and hard to climb onto, and we can easily catch them."]] < 1251653001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Move along now, there's another bridge to jump off, I'm sure" < 1251653118 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Deewiant: SICP even has graphics stuff? <<< it has the picture language < 1251653126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like turtle stuff? < 1251653128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vague memory of tha < 1251653128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1251653130 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1251653137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what then < 1251653139 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Circles and stuff, right? < 1251653142 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a language where you can compose pictures. < 1251653150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's turtle to me < 1251653151 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, combinators and whatnot < 1251653154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's simplistic < 1251653157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251653159 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"language", basically you have picture objects and combinators for them < 1251653163 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turtle, huh. < 1251653168 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disagree < 1251653176 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turtle stuff is LOGO, which is a bit more simplistic < 1251653179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251653187 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turtle stuff is imperative < 1251653195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah scheme is beautiful < 1251653198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE A FLOWER < 1251653208 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should read sicp, ehird < 1251653208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish plt was less crappy on os x tho < 1251653222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: it's so much more fun trolling people about it having not read it < 1251653261 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you *have* read it though, right? < 1251653286 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he says "having not read it", presumably he then hasn't read it < 1251653298 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... i really thought he had read it < 1251653313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251653314 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably part of the reason i took the time to read it < 1251653316 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we'd established that you tend to be detached from reality < 1251653319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, it's great to do long-term trolling things < 1251653321 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because even ehrd had < 1251653323 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ehird < 1251653324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you shatter people's minor illusions < 1251653329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: is it any good :P < 1251653357 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found it rather good < 1251653372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rarely read longform programming stuff < 1251653379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm much more of a hypertexty, contexty person < 1251653385 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too little math, but the code is sexy < 1251653399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well obviously, it's by the Sussman < 1251653498 0 :oklofog!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251653516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofog: I can't see through you < 1251653600 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess oklofog's just condensed oklowater. < 1251653633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklowtr < 1251653637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t is totally a verb < 1251653638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1251653638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vowel < 1251653727 0 :oklofog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251653745 0 :oklofog!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251653783 0 :oklofog!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklovar < 1251653794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklovar = oklowtr < 1251653829 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should probably be "vor" < 1251653836 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe you haven't read sicp < 1251653854 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you read rwh? not sure you even started, but i assumed that too :P < 1251653855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklovar: are you just sitting there gawping < 1251653858 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAVE YOU READ ANYTHING, EVER? < 1251653862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started to read rwh then stopped < 1251653871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started to read anything then stopped HUR HUR < 1251653881 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oklowaßer. Except I guess they wouldn't spell it with ß at least nowadays. < 1251653885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I can't read. < 1251653888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use a screenreader < 1251653893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE I'M BLIND < 1251653907 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be pretty cool if you just never learned to read < 1251653920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklovar: that is what is known as being a retard :P < 1251653947 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a dude who sticks to his priorities < 1251653974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it'd be very hard to not learn to read < 1251653976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :accidentally < 1251654012 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN'T BELIVE YOUR NOT HAVING READ IT BELIEVE < 1251654020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251654025 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't believe ehird's not butter! < 1251654027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklovar: you ARE just sitting there in amazement are you < 1251654029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*aren't < 1251654065 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am. too tired to read, but i don't want to sleep < 1251654074 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are all that's left < 1251654075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't read now < 1251654077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BY PROXY < 1251654107 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err because you don't or what? < 1251654193 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll just read a *little* bit < 1251654342 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe.... < 1251654449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklovar: :D < 1251654604 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could've been a fine computational geometrician in the 1970's, for instance, i invented quadtrees and kd-trees in the same order as they appeared irl, and with about the same interval < 1251654618 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it geometrist < 1251654625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR COULD YOU < 1251654626 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadtrees don't take much creativity < 1251654627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1251654629 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should invent hexadecitrees for storing 4D data < 1251654635 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.91.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251654636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1251654639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1251654644 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.91.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251654649 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : someone should invent hexadecitrees for storing 4D data <--- all you missed < 1251654649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two windows focused at once < 1251654652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the fuck does that work < 1251654656 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no idea < 1251654662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glitchily, is the answer :P < 1251654671 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen it happen on computer games with homebrew OSes, but not on real OSes before < 1251654681 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i "invented" them as a quick hack to make collision queries faster < 1251654687 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251654690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :half the glitches in the original Pokémon were that sort of thing < 1251654695 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kd-trees were what i did after learning what data structures were < 1251654707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1251654734 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251654785 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm fairly sure the original papers about quadtrees have "can obviously be extended to any amount of dimensions" < 1251654793 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, probably < 1251654797 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but have they been named? < 1251654815 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are quadtrees and oct-trees, after all < 1251654839 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/oct-/oc/ < 1251655595 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Results 1 - 3 of 3 for hexadectree." < 1251655627 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- produce the same result as one hexadectree refinement step, where a hexadectree is the generalization of an octree to four dimension --" < 1251655631 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least someone's named it. < 1251655660 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very common, but still more common than a hexadec*i*tree; "Results 1 - 2 of about 0 for hexadecitree." < 1251655699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1 - 2 of about 0" :D < 1251655770 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so 2 out of the 3 are from the same paper, "Hierarchical Representation of Time-varying Volume Data with ∜2 Subdivision and Quadrilinear B-spline Wavelets". < 1251655862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :∜ < 1251655869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a single character? < 1251655877 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "character" < 1251655886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, not a combining+regular < 1251655908 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+221C FOURTH ROOT < 1251656052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought that was sqrt a < 1251656055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a sqr < 1251656056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1251656058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 4 < 1251656075 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't see the 4? :-P < 1251656211 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Maybe I should've added a combining overline to the 2, like ∜2̅. < 1251656297 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to find combining numbers, even though I think I've seen those. Must've been dreaming. There's quite a lot of combining latin letters, though. < 1251656389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The font's too small < 1251656391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looked like a weird a < 1251656516 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still kinda weird to believe < 1251656526 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"weird to believe"? < 1251656533 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda weird to say < 1251656537 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The upper/lower-half symbols are funny. Like the sum: < 1251656538 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎲ < 1251656538 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎳ < 1251656683 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the integral, which has a separate extension-bar and all. < 1251656683 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌠ < 1251656683 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎮ x ⅆx < 1251656683 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌡ < 1251656714 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That shows up all holey here < 1251656720 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same here. < 1251656739 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the differential sign (I guess?) next to the x is just a box < 1251656767 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's U+2146 double-struck italic small d, "sometimes used for the differential". I wanted something a bit out of the ordinary there. < 1251656873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1251656887 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, "all holey"? < 1251656892 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean you can't see them? < 1251656895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see both perfectly < 1251656914 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean it was riddled with holes < 1251656914 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And only the integral < 1251656935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well yes it doesn't fit together here. Neither does < 1251656937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl food < 1251656948 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sum seems to, here < 1251657692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251658441 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the spam folder: You can▓t even complain about our watches √ they are perfect. < 1251658452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting chars < 1251658676 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251659019 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ℱ⁻¹, the inverse Fourier transform. < 1251659029 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, I had holes in both the sum and the integral. < 1251659336 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/a2RFE.jpg < 1251660290 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.91.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251660363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither fit together due to (a) fonts, (b) line height < 1251660404 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: they fit together on a DOS console < 1251660411 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this from experience < 1251660424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOS does unicode < 1251660425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251660437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, those characters are, amazingly, in the default 256-char character set < 1251660445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251660448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's to be expected < 1251660451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spreadsheets and the like < 1251660470 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably that's why they're in unicode in the first place < 1251660486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, unicode just wants to have everything < 1251660490 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1251660493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which includes being able to do plaintext mathematics < 1251660507 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A two-line sum was in CP437? < 1251660511 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cp437 has the possibly most famous DOS charset. I don't think it has a sum. < 1251660513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although only two lines for sum seems od < 1251660514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1251660524 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the top and bottom for integral, and a single-character sigma. < 1251660525 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a one-line sum in the form of capital sigma < 1251660527 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even, with any luck, Tengwar and Cirth < 1251660528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either line you put the expression, it's unbalanced < 1251660546 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah, no, but it has the integral as 244,245 < 1251660581 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cp850 is what we mostly saw, since cp437 lacks the åäö chars. < 1251660586 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can always do a single sigma with sub/superscript indices < 1251660589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:08:56 http://imgur.com/a2RFE.jpg < 1251660589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my first thoughts was "that laptop is unreasonably thick" :P < 1251660745 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Unicode ☺ (at least in this font) doesn't much look like the mostly-rectangular face I'm used to; the one that's in the picture on the cp437 wiki-page. < 1251660771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cp437 is :D anyway < 1251660797 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪, ♫. It's nice. < 1251660821 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the double exclamation point, ‼. < 1251660835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which looks identical to !! in this font < 1251660838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, pixel-for-pixel < 1251660859 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: they look very different in this font < 1251660868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :different spacing, different height < 1251660869 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But takes one byte less! Well, except that it's three bytes in UTF-8. < 1251660873 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it your font or your kerner < 1251660897 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: not sure < 1251660905 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kerner here is pretty aggressive, though < 1251660928 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was more at ehird, since it seems odd that the characters themselves would be identical < 1251660958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it's identical in Lucida Grande, although really, OS X's kerner is so perfect that I couldn't point out if it was < 1251660968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*they're; not it's < 1251660975 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: CP437 has åäö. < 1251660975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are literally pixel-identical. < 1251661018 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You're right. Why, then, did we bother with cp850? < 1251661029 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did we? I don't think I did :-P < 1251661093 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"keyb su,850,c:\dos\keyboard.sys" is I think what some autoexec.bat said. < 1251661120 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always just used "keyb su,," < 1251661400 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat67.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251661406 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1251661422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you crazy people who actually used DOS < 1251661469 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with DOS? < 1251661487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I say there's anything wrong with DOS? < 1251661539 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you just called us crazy for using it. What's wrong with us? < 1251661539 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.freedos.org/ < 1251661548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rarely use it nowadays < 1251661553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Firstly, < 1251661554 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I prefer it to Windows < 1251661558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"used", past tense < 1251661563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Secondly, there was context < 1251661570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thirdly, for the record, DOS is awful < 1251661671 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1251661679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that upset him < 1251661728 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251661800 0 :lifthrasiir!i=EGK5dBo0@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251661814 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251661821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb impomatic < 1251661918 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, gf made me restart net :-( < 1251661966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rntz.net/files/arc3.1.patch < 1251661967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITT: Paul Graham and friends fix the fact that Arc doesn't work on MzScheme 4, because conses are immutable, by writing low-level pointer/memory hackery to directly modify them. Among every other obvious objection to this ridiculous, ridiculous change is that there's no damn guarantee that the *immutable* pairs will even be *mutable* in memory in the future. < 1251662028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is Arc? < 1251662029 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conses are immutable? < 1251662036 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that allowed in R6RS or something? < 1251662046 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1251662054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's a PLT-specific change. < 1251662056 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I recall correctly, anyway. < 1251662067 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably there's a "mutable-cons"? < 1251662067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm going to assume you don't know who Paul Graham is either < 1251662071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes. < 1251662073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, I don't < 1251662085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I really don't have the hours to explain to you, so let me summarise it: < 1251662088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can certainly tell from your description that that patch is a very bad idea, though < 1251662103 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably it's a pain in the butt to use cons everywhere except MzScheme < 1251662106 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R6RS has http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs-lib/r6rs-lib-Z-H-18.html#node_chap_17 < 1251662113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: So set the language to r5rs or whatever in mzscheme < 1251662118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme isn't really portable < 1251662147 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True enough < 1251662409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Paul Graham is a guy who got rich from a terrible web application in the 90s that was bought out by Yahoo, ViaWeb (now Yahoo Stores, although it doesn't use his code anymore). Basically, he got lucky. It happened to be written in Lisp, so he then promptly became a blowhard, writing a bunch of stupid essays about how using Lisp will make you rich, hackers are basically like painters because I'm both and we're both hyper-intelligent and so on and so fo < 1251662409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These were, of course, massively popular. He then started Y Combinator, a venture capital that funded reddit and others. He took five years to construct his language, Arc, based on the oh-so-stupid principle of "if we give everything short names and make them only work to do exactly what I want them to do and have no flexibility whatsoever, my language will be expressive and short". He had the hubris to call Arc a "hundred-year language", despite it not supp < 1251662411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode and coming with the ability to produce basically nothing that isn't a trivial web app using tables for layout and dumps of Arc data in flatfiles for a database. After these laborious five years, accompanied of course by epic dosages of hype along the way, he released a few-thousand line compiler written in Scheme that compiled Arc to Scheme, even going so far as to use MzScheme's parser - a work trivial beyond comprehension. He defended this by sayin < 1251662417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing the code was easy, it was just figuring out what to write that took so long. The obvious rebuttal is that it's a stupid, tiny language that consists of a meagre standard library with short names and a small continuation-based combined web server/framework that encourages using tables for layout, and a retarded monkey could come up with that in a few minutes. < 1251662425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're welcome. < 1251662470 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on average, is it more or less expressive than INTERCAL? < 1251662488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, more. Also, it seems my client cut off some characters from the ends of its automatically-split lines. < 1251662491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can figure it out trivially. < 1251662495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*them, not it < 1251662503 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I did < 1251662529 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your messages, they were mostly cut in twain. "and so f", "it not sup", "this by sayi". < 1251662535 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1251662540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know Mark Twain did that. < 1251662569 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must've somehow post-dated that comment about it, I didn't see it at all. < 1251662583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I posted it on a date, yes. < 1251662726 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"mov.i #1,1" < 1251662988 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat65.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251663037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: You are the master of the bounce < 1251663187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* impomatic has quit ("mov.i #1,1") <-- hnu < 1251663191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hnuh* < 1251663191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251663244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hnuh is not a pronounceable word. < 1251663266 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the u is silent < 1251663270 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He quit using his usual quit message? < 1251663312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well maybe, but what does that asm bit do? < 1251663393 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to restart the net again. My gf can't connect and isn't happy about it! < 1251663410 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov.i #1,1 is an imp in Corewar < 1251663458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic, ah < 1251663464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic, what does it do though? < 1251663490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an imp < 1251663535 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When it executes, it copies itself over the next location in memory. < 1251663552 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the next location that executes < 1251663557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a minimal SMITH-style loop < 1251663579 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251663639 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1251663654 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251663971 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you know those google "frontends"? like lmgify and such < 1251663978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1251663978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was googling and found a very silly one < 1251663983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*lmgtfy) < 1251663984 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cthuugle.com/en/ < 1251664007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a google frontend. < 1251664017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a topic-specific search engine that looks like google. < 1251664023 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I didn't try it. it looks like one though < 1251664025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hm yeah < 1251664415 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-3-02.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1251665016 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cchronicles.com/ < 1251665049 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cchronicles.com/files/114018167ba946835827b8e6ad733f09-20.html promises amusement < 1251665056 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1251665057 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A look at a variety of interesting programming languages being used for personal computers. Included are demonstrations of Microsoft's Office 2000 Developer, LEGO Mindstorms RCX Code Developer, Macromedia Flash 3.0, and Metrowerks CodeWarrior." < 1251665264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, the top one is RISC < 1251665267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC! < 1251665271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC will solve everything! < 1251665279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC will make your grandma come back to life! < 1251665284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC will speed up your computer 5000% < 1251665286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC!!! < 1251665286 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1251665299 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read that as "RISC will speed up your grandma 5000%" < 1251665304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT ALSO < 1251665321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cchronicles.com/files/3b442913b12648d4179b6f5736263c5f-64.html < 1251665321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one here is... so small < 1251665327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The keys are smaller than a finger < 1251665366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow that intro < 1251665377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm always surprised when the 80s are, well, stereotypically 80s < 1251665412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No keyboard" < 1251665417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iPhone 1989 < 1251665428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah more like the newton shut up < 1251665436 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1251665593 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What we have with the CodeWarrior software is we have a website that comes with the software" < 1251665651 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh noes, the CodeWarrior guy is double-clicking on links in IE 5 < 1251665674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1251665682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1251665684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the laptops video < 1251665688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mentions the dynabook < 1251665692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251665724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph, it has videos as late as 1996 < 1251665736 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I linked to is 1999 < 1251665738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think at a certain point in the 90s computers stopped being awesomely retro and just became boring < 1251665749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well yeah, which is even worse < 1251665982 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1251665982 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1251666008 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1251666051 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.archive.org/details/computerchronicles has the same content with a different design < 1251666073 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear < 1251666107 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The programming challenges in the Internet era are about things like adding cool graphics, animations, sounds and activity to your web site" < 1251666181 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they have Flash pages with background music, of course < 1251666190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: The blog just embeds from archive.or < 1251666191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1251666204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the UI is nicer < 1251666205 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yep < 1251666285 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1251666717 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers, huh < 1251666721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1251666742 0 :oklovar!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :okloFLOP < 1251666742 0 :okloFLOP!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1251666788 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool graphics and activity are serious business < 1251666821 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1251666865 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AAAAAA <- BWAHAHAHAHA < 1251666875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Context? :P < 1251666885 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I just clicked it < 1251666895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1251666896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251666898 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: TV Tropes < 1251666902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1251666904 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You forgot already? :-P < 1251667192 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[Bridge guard Wong Man said: "The butter makes the bars and frames slippery and hard to climb onto, and we can easily catch them."]] < 1251667192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1251667202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, another Paul Graham gem: < 1251667207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The News server currently crashes a couple times a day when it runs < 1251667208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of memory. All the comments and stories no longer fit in the 2 GB < 1251667208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can get on a 32 bit machine.]] < 1251667210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Because what is a disk" < 1251667219 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that _is_ a bit better than the stereotype my prejudices assumed ;D < 1251667241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1251667245 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. that they would do it so the suiciders would slip off the bridge faster) < 1251667248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251667256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoopsy daisy! < 1251667454 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :butter daisy, presumably < 1251667593 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@host86-160-121-141.range86-160.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251667619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://invalid.ed.ntnu.no/~jostein/qupload/files/slackware.jpg ;; This isn't fair, the screenshot is from Windows 3.1. Slackware might even be as advanced as NT 3.51! < 1251667762 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1251668270 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251668364 0 :svarg!n=mode@unaffiliated/romani JOIN :#esoteric < 1251668365 0 :svarg!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1251668368 0 :svarg!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone familiar with pre-c < 1251668370 0 :svarg!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it from cobol < 1251668643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1251668676 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hnuh is not a pronounceable word. < 1251668698 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that h at the end is awkward < 1251668722 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so say all good norsemen) < 1251668743 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(while playing hnefatafl) < 1251668764 0 :svarg!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird no idea? < 1251668783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :svarg: first, what's pre-c, secondly, what does "was it from cobol" mean? < 1251668788 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :svarg: c came from b, which came from bcpl < 1251668803 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which came from cpl iirc < 1251668816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pre-c is presumably a language < 1251668818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of some sort < 1251668819 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there is more than one language called cpl, also iirc < 1251668831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :svarg: do you mean what languages came before C? < 1251668838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :direct predecessors, or just every language before C? < 1251668842 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPL came from Algol-60 < 1251668852 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1251668862 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algol-60 came from Algol-58 < 1251668865 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-P < 1251668877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algol came from Lisp and Fortran < 1251668895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think, at least) < 1251668901 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much from Lisp, I don't think < 1251668906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1251668908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a bit < 1251668912 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may have been somewhat influenced by Fortran < 1251668914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algol has some weird shit < 1251668928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, fortran was the "general language"t ehn < 1251668930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then < 1251668936 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortran was 1957, Algol and Lisp were both 1958 < 1251668946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1251668950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :McCarthy did Algol too < 1251668962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that Algol 58 sucked < 1251668966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing like 60, really < 1251668986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, Lisp came out of LSD and Fortran and Fortran came out of, like, autocode < 1251668997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Autocode came out of someone's ass < 1251669004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The end < 1251669018 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1251669027 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: LSD + lambda calculus, surely? < 1251669029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1251669045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp has not that much to do with the lambda calculus, really < 1251669046 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you say "night" to the other 500 channels you've been idling on as well? < 1251669058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: He probably has a (configurable) script to do it. < 1251669058 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ok, *broken* lambda calculus < 1251669080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that I absolutely must know when AnMaster goes to sleep. < 1251669081 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the LSD had something to do with that... < 1251669084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I basically plan my day around him. < 1251669117 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought he was a bit early tonight < 1251669139 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he has early classes tomorrow < 1251669161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (while playing hnefatafl) <-- hm? XD < 1251669170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you made that up really? < 1251669175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Okay, you know what? Say goddamn "night" all the time < 1251669177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as it means < 1251669182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO TRY AND GO TO BED NOW < 1251669182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not < 1251669185 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, it's a real norse game < 1251669188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HERE I AM GOING TO SAY A WORD NOW AND THEN STAY HERE < 1251669239 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION confesses to sometimes saying good night, quitting, and then keeping on browsing the web in the other window
< 1251669259 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least you quit < 1251669266 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well the good night is in the quit message, usually) < 1251669268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster's "night" seems to mean "I double dare you to ping me. Come on. Come on, ping me. You're not going to ping me? I'll just say something anyway." < 1251669280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps "Hey, I observe that it is night time." < 1251669286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make sense, sort of < 1251669294 0 :svarg!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats b+ oerjan < 1251669303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :svarg: could you try typing in complete sentences? < 1251669315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sort of takes a few more seconds for you and saves all of us seconds of head scratching < 1251669320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what you just said < 1251669327 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it was just the first norse word i could think of starting with hn (ok, maybe the only one) < 1251669372 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :svarg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_(programming_language) < 1251669374 0 :svarg!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b+ was after B language < 1251669380 0 :svarg!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean predecessor to c < 1251669384 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm never heard of it < 1251669391 0 :svarg!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :predecessor to c+ < 1251669393 0 :svarg!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b+ < 1251669399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :svarg: are you trolling < 1251669400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no c+ < 1251669401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor b+ < 1251669404 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought B was directly before C < 1251669410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1251669439 0 :svarg!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ < 1251669447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, how do you pronounce it? < 1251669453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was no B+ or B++. < 1251669462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++'s predecessors were Simula-3 and C. < 1251669508 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i assume the old norse pronounced the h. i think icelandic devoices the n. < 1251669514 0 :svarg!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251670008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how plt scheme has ⌘\ → λ < 1251670076 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌘‽ < 1251670127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Command key. < 1251670142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Control, Option, Command" is the order of the modifier keys on Apple keyboards. < 1251670151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Command is used for most shortcuts, etc. < 1251670163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e., what Control is for Windows/Linux) < 1251670179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Option and Control being added modifier keys. The terminal passes Control-s unscathed. < 1251670179 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1251670192 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying "Command-\" would've been noticeably more clear < 1251670194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a nicer position than where Control usually is, at least for my hands. < 1251670199 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering what the place of interest sign had to do with lambdas < 1251670208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, but the topic is shortcuts for Unicode characters, so it seemed appropriate. < 1251670213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the place of interest sign is pretty. < 1251670215 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking that it was some kind of digraph < 1251670262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Originally an Apple logo was used, and indeed an Apple logo adorns every Apple keyboard with that key until the latest revision - including the one I have - but Jobs axed that before it ever got out because he felt the overload of the logo in the menus "degraded" the logo to a commodity, so to speak.) < 1251670268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He is, um, crazy, if you haven't noticed.) < 1251670342 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad genius < 1251670353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like CapsLock for extra Ctrl. Means I have to stretch hand less awkwardly < 1251670447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could demonstrate why that is provably less ergonomic unless you have mutant hands, but I doubt you'd listen. < 1251670458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: some would dispute "genius", but agreed < 1251670595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders wtf the first parameter to SYNTAX-RULES does
< 1251670733 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Scheme? < 1251670753 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any identifiers in that list are marked as literals < 1251670788 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meaning that if you use them in a template it matches against the value of the identifier < 1251670797 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of being a pattern variable that matches anything < 1251670809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251670827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it just me, or can syntax-rules thingies not transform the expression in any way?) < 1251670837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Like, you can't take a nested list and process that recursively into code) < 1251670839 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transform the expression? < 1251670858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because (transform x) will turn into (transform ) and become code, not a code generator) < 1251670866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably missing osmething obvious of course < 1251670868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*something < 1251670913 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still not sure what you're after < 1251670938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g., (test (a b (c d e))) → (b a (d c e)) < 1251670949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a list, transform that list, use it as code < 1251670951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the expansion < 1251670955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursively < 1251671120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1251671167 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define-syntax test (syntax-rules () (_ (a b c ...)) (b a (test (c ...))))) + a base case, or something < 1251671182 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why it shouldn't be possible < 1251671203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Consider (a b c d e) → (b a c d e) < 1251671209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do it for a fixed number of arguments, of course < 1251671211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's obvious < 1251671249 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then recurse into a different function < 1251671258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Howso < 1251671261 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That macro works for an arbitrary number of arguments < 1251671266 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes 2 or more < 1251671272 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the ... does < 1251671282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't do the same thing < 1251671292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does (a b c d e) → (b a (d c e)) < 1251671297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is obviously possible < 1251671306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can't do (map macro (foo ...)) < 1251671353 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but you should be able to do a macro2 which does a map macro -ish thing < 1251671367 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not 100% sure though and I can't be bothered to think on it now < 1251671389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: How? macro2 would just get (_ foo ...) < 1251671394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is the exact same situation as macro < 1251671408 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pattern match on whether foo is a list < 1251671412 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if it is, go inside it < 1251671427 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can do it as another case in one macro as well < 1251671440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, this conversation is proceeding as "How do I do A?"" "Do X so that you can do A" < 1251671447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251671454 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just let you figure it out then < 1251671460 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend to sleep for the next 7 hours -> < 1251671460 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zzz < 1251671618 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define-syntax mapm (syntax-rules () (_ (macro (foo ...))) ((macro foo) ...))) or something, what's wrong with that admitting i have forgotten scheme macros years ago... < 1251671669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how that can possibly work < 1251671688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It expands (macro (foo a b c)) → ((macro foo) a b c) < 1251671737 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i thought ... did corresponding changes to everything as was done to the initial foo < 1251671746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know < 1251671747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may be right < 1251671749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll test it < 1251671768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it expands < 1251671777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mapm (macro (foo a b c))) → ((macro foo) a b c) < 1251671786 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1251671790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try it < 1251671791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tested it < 1251671792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet < 1251671874 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping for (mapm macro (foo a b c)) anyway, whoever knows the syntax may adjust it... < 1251671915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to work < 1251671939 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1251671962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define-syntax fluffy < 1251671962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (syntax-rules (butt) < 1251671962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(_ butt) butt] < 1251671962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(_ (foo ...)) ((fluffy foo) ...)])) < 1251671963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works fine < 1251672003 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's one too complicated thing: < 1251672005 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (define-syntax reverse (syntax-rules (rev) ((_ rev () x) x) ((_ rev (a . b) z) (reverse rev b ((reverse a) . z))) ((_ (list ...)) (reverse rev (list ...) ())) ((_ item) item))) < 1251672005 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (reverse (5 4 3 (2 1 +) +)) < 1251672005 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 < 1251672010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in plt scheme Pretty Big at least; in R5RS you can't do the [] ofc < 1251672021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but [] in drscheme alternate paren types and I'm too lazy to rebind it < 1251672034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fuck you, that's what I was writing :-( < 1251672039 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just trying to illustrate that people use special-symbol thingamajicks to do multiple-cases-of-processing style things in a single macro. < 1251672039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1251672046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just doing (a b +) → (+ a b) < 1251672047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251672052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of (a b +) -> (+ b a) < 1251672061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I think syntax-rules is kind of... awful? < 1251672071 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hygienic, that's not awful. < 1251672073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feels very low-level doing things like that < 1251672095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Sure, but hygienic != gee, well, you can do simple rewriting unless you want to get TRICKY < 1251672097 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look at syntax-case if you like, that's what all the big boys use. I've never bothered to learn it properly, though. < 1251672150 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they actually incorporated syntax-case in R6RS or something, I don't know. < 1251672155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get, from R5RS fans, a general vibe of "syntax-case is so impure and unsvelte :(" < 1251672162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, if R6RS has it it probably sucks < 1251672261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yeah I just wanted an excuse to use the word svelte, sue me) < 1251672266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm attempting to stop using semicolons < 1251672269 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :practically sveltihel < 1251672304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see how ... works < 1251672355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"x ..." in the expansion, where x involves "foo ..." from the pattern, turns into "x_0 x_1 x_2 ..." for each foo, with the foo variable replaced with the element. < 1251672370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just though that "foo ..." was a weird two-atom name for all of 'em. < 1251672402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why PLT has a memory limit of 128 meg by default
< 1251672471 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251672776 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think the deep-reverse macro is pretty much a direct translation of a reasonable deep-reverse function -- http://scheme.pastebin.com/m39b7123f -- except with list? and null? implemented with pattern-matching. < 1251672809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and it'd be nice if you could do (expand (func x)) in a macro, but that's so unhygienic and stuff. < 1251672884 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just write defmacro/define-macro transformers, then. Expect people to start to sneeze, though; being unhygienic means you're propagating the what-was-it flu. < 1251672896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think pig. < 1251672898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pig flu. < 1251672900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that sounds right. < 1251672914 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess so. For some reason I was thinking "horse". < 1251672922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it may have been unicorn flu. < 1251672924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNICORN FLU < 1251672931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :UNICORN FLU http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1251672937 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicorn flu makes you sneeze out rainbows. (Away.) < 1251672951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sneeze them out AwAY? < 1251672953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWAY? < 1251675040 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection