< 1251417635 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :subletting is not usually a joking matter < 1251417751 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1251417814 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251417925 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although come to think of it you could probably base a sitcom on it < 1251418225 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251421321 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251421397 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1251422097 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.91.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251422364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:52:38 * coppro ding's the channel's don < 1251422365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:52:40 *dong < 1251422365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is pg-13. < 1251422400 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your fault for interpreting it rudely then < 1251422545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: "this channel is pg-13" is a personal meme. < 1251422563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "dinging the channel's dong" is hard to interpret in any way other than (a) sexual, (b) nonsense < 1251422623 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personal meme? < 1251422694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: wait, you're 14 now < 1251422707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pg-13 is >= 13 < 1251422708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not >13 < 1251422712 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that, by definition, a personal meme is impossible < 1251422723 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well but we should be able to advance to pg-14 < 1251422725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I use it a lot to mean one thing as a recurring gag, the intention is that other people in-the-know will laugh at it < 1251422728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nobody elses uses it < 1251422737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I advanced on your mom last night < 1251422741 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: take it as a paraphrase to catchphrase < 1251422745 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: necrophiliac < 1251422749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she reminded me of the restraining order < 1251422756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's just how bad I am < 1251422760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead people get restraining orders against me < 1251422836 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if we make it _european_ pg-13 then dongs are probably fine but i'll have to stop with the swatter < 1251422873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: isn't the analogy only appropriate if we replace the swatter with like < 1251422880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an automatic swatter bomb gun < 1251422890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's pretty hard to make swatters dangerous) < 1251422968 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what about the saucepan then < 1251423392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: has anyone been hurt for more than 5 minutes with it < 1251423428 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :details < 1251423439 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Also, good night" < 1251423826 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wowowowowtf. < 1251423837 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Add either citric or phosphoric acid to your swig ingest drink. < 1251423847 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting the pH down = ultra-important. < 1251423847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: W...why < 1251423860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Did you drink it or something < 1251423873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to know wtf sparked this XD < 1251423874 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I'm realizing from my own experiments that getting the pH down = hyperimportant :P < 1251423888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want it to be smooth and unassuming :-( < 1251423894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna know what happened :P < 1251423905 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Happened"? Nothing happened *shrugs* < 1251423917 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just made it with citric acid and it's a huge improvement. < 1251423939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it = swig ingest drink? < 1251423961 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, my own. < 1251423965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laaaaaaaame :P < 1251423970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's yours made of < 1251423991 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presently: sugar and extracts of vanilla, peppermint and almond. < 1251424021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds nice. < 1251424028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did adding citric acid change it < 1251424066 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to describe ... the flavor is a bit more citrusy (duh), but it's the mouthfeel that improved substantially. < 1251424079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1251425650 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251426342 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251428008 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251431545 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251431861 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-46-95.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251431870 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251432002 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1251432774 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251432800 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1251433278 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251438999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey Google, if I search the word review, I do not want pages containing reviews or reviewing." < 1251439005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figure A, an insane person. < 1251439248 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I search "undressing", I don't want "dress" < 1251439249 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1251439282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo finds porn by searching for "female humans undressing". < 1251439284 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe searching +review would help? < 1251439354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puzzlet: they quote it < 1251439357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're still insane < 1251439383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who searches "laptop review" and doesn't want to see "laptop reviews" or "a video of $person reviewing laptops"? < 1251439434 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he's looking for a review exactly entitled "laptop review" < 1251439457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's talking in general < 1251439465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he never wants to have "Xs" and "Xing" included < 1251439474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from the tone of the sentence... seems to think that nobody sane would want this < 1251439496 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is he anyway < 1251439508 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better ignore him < 1251439511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some guy on reddit. < 1251439514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1251439518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just pointing out he's insane :P < 1251439562 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying you're pretend to be insane or .. < 1251439585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puzzlet: eh? < 1251439615 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe i'm not good at catching the behind context < 1251439657 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some guy on reddit says insane thing < 1251439692 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are ... ignoring him < 1251439696 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now i get it < 1251439713 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many language->language tools exist < 1251439714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm ignoring him apart from mentioning it as funny < 1251439718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: too many. < 1251439721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: also, all compilers. < 1251439732 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of two Python->JS tools, and now I learn there's a Python->Perl tool < 1251439741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all compilers. < 1251439761 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1251439827 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should have asked language->high-level language.. But then that includes BF->C compilers.. < 1251441729 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251441742 0 :Leonidas!n=Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1251442691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at(1) doesn't appear to work here... < 1251442713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, it's never executed any jobs < 1251442732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMPLEMENTATION NOTES < 1251442732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note that at is implemented through the launchd(8) daemon periodically invoking atrun(8), which is disabled by default. See atrun(8) for information about enabling atrun. < 1251442881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see, [[while true; do xsetroot -name "$(date '+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M')"; sleep 5; done]] is terribly wasteful and inaccurate < 1251442966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[update() { xsetroot -name "$(date '+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M')" }; update; sleep $((60 - $(date +%S))); while true; do update; sleep 60; done]] should do it. < 1251443049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works < 1251444388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, I love dwm < 1251444391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so perfect < 1251444602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec $(cat ~/.histfile | dmenu -l ) < 1251444606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(w/ dmenu-vertical patch) < 1251444683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish it supported non-linear searching < 1251444700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 'fir awesome' matching 'firefox http://awesome.com' < 1251444707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'awesome fir' < 1251444709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess I'll write it < 1251444762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it's match() < 1251444767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1251444793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem is "google" might match "go http://foo.com/?g=l;e=f" < 1251444801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll add points for consecutive strings < 1251444815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, that would get 2+1+1+1 = 5 points < 1251444827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "firefox http://google.com" would get 6 < 1251444832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1251444841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore me, I'm on drugs < 1251444864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the drug of idiocy) < 1251444865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1251444873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i reward consecutiveness, I wonder < 1251444974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, considering one block, variable "factor"; 1 is "all chars from string in block"; 0 is "one char from string in block" < 1251444978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., 100/percentageofstring < 1251444990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let's say < 1251444999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffx google < 1251445002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1251445007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox → f, f, x, separate blocks < 1251445018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we do < 1251445026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1*1)+(1*1)+(1*1) < 1251445031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 3 points there < 1251445033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then google < 1251445063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := 2.666666...... < 1251445067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1251445077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we add one to factor, ofc) < 1251445083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2.66666667*6) < 1251445099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's 3+16 = 19 points < 1251445118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs g http://foo.com?g=l;e=f < 1251445125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, make that < 1251445136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"g http://foo.com?g=l;e=x;f=r" < 1251445138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffx google < 1251445139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1251445146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g = 1*1 < 1251445156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f = 1*1 < 1251445175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo = (10/2)*2 < 1251445178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1251445186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo = (1+(10/2))*2 < 1251445195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g = 1*1 < 1251445197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l = 1*1 < 1251445200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e = 1*1 < 1251445202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = 1*1 < 1251445203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f = 1*1 < 1251445223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... which is 19 >_< < 1251445236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait < 1251445238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10/2 is backwards < 1251445241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be 2/10 < 1251445293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's 3+9.6 = 12.6 points on the first < 1251445295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1251445321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9.4 on the second < 1251445328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :success < 1251445897 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251445913 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251446399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1251446400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1251446406 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly Omegle prank: connect to three users A, B and C. Relay messages from A to B, from B to A, from A to C, and from C to A. < 1251446443 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :B will say something, A will respond, C will see it, and confusion will ensue. < 1251446475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that with one chain. < 1251446624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: wait, no, that's equivalent to A and B together :P < 1251447066 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-201.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251448060 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251448990 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251449683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523! < 1251449697 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1251449707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i've formulated a soda for you to make next < 1251449709 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, you're here early, as am I < 1251449726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mix carbonated water, caffeine, and a shitload of Fisherman's Friend lozenges < 1251449735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then, don't drink it because you can't possibly handle it < 1251449746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, I haven't slept; I'm on reverse monophasic < 1251449752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sleep for about 8 hours in the day < 1251449755 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough, I get there sometimes < 1251449761 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I've been there most of the holiday < 1251449774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite nice, actually; I psychologically view the daysleep as taking a nap rather than going to bed < 1251449777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've decided that 8pm - 4am is probably about the best sleep period, and I'm sort-of deliberately aiming for it nowadays < 1251449778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is easier to do < 1251449800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I get a sort of "I'm staying up all night!" dim rush < 1251449807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes me happier < 1251449816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 8pm - 4am? that's a very strange sleep schedul < 1251449816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1251449833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't possibly sleep at 8pm < 1251449857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, strangely, a day or two ago the following happened: < 1251449864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woke up from sleep at around 10pm < 1251449864 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you could if you'd woken up at 4am consistently, I suspect < 1251449871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stayed up until the next day < 1251449878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's day now and I didn't really feel like sleeping < 1251449889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get to about 10am < 1251449891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next day < 1251449899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then sleep < 1251449908 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ah, when I wake up at 10pm, I generally wake all night and sleep some time the next morning < 1251449910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come I missed a day and was only mildly sleepy? < 1251449919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right; I skipped the sleep somehow < 1251449922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until the morning after < 1251449962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how do you rank my fisherman's friend drink idea from -100 to -50? < 1251449971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[08:55] ehird: mix carbonated water, caffeine, and a shitload of Fisherman's Friend lozenges < 1251449971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[08:55] ehird: then, don't drink it because you can't possibly handle it < 1251449983 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: about -80 < 1251449989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(liquidize them first ofc) < 1251450043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there are any mints stronger than fisherman's friend < 1251450709 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251450974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzoom < 1251451418 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@65.183.185.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251451521 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251451857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Companies building java software are no better than scam artists." < 1251451858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uriel really deserves a fortune database of his own; maybe name it "idiot" < 1251451940 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's a weird quote < 1251451953 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they were hired to produce java software in the first place, how is it a scam? < 1251451963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because java sucks, or something < 1251452043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good things about uriel: uses plan 9. bad things about uriel: free-market nutjob (think cato institute), hates every piece of software pretty much ad hominem, without attacking their actual flaws, repulsively barbaric attitude in anything he says (to the point of impossibility of arguing with him at all), etc < 1251452160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://harmful.cat-v.org/ is a big ol' pile of lol; topics include "Fair trade is evil", "Minimum wage is evil", "Children are super-evil and if you have a child you're a psychologically fucked up egotist", "Gay marriage is evil because having 'marriage' be a convenient shorthand for 'a contract of a certain type' is evil", "Sweden sucks and is undemocratic", and that's ignoring the huge software section < 1251452235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and though I can't find it on his site, "healthcare: the solution is to regulate them less. then they can pull off more and so will behave better" < 1251452255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laissez-faire never ceases to amuse < 1251453080 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-27-85.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251453733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stood and standing that you would? < 1251453831 0 :sebbu3!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-117.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251453894 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: an attack on Sweden in particular seems weird < 1251453904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he's swedish. < 1251453930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally not a coincidence, though! he's clearly rationally examined this... like he does with everything else? < 1251453950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, come on < 1251453952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the single party system" < 1251453956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's simply deluding himself < 1251453958 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1251454741 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251455676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how small he could get a purist R5RS scheme implementation in C < 1251455685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me bet... 1,000 lines < 1251455690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the library, eh < 1251455693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2,000 < 1251455777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1251455838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you think it's safe using the 4 top bits of a 32-bit int? < 1251455843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pointer malloc just gave me was 21 bits < 1251455867 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't think so; IIRC malloc starts low but gets higher the more memory you're using < 1251455875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels much less safe than relying on malloc()'s lsb to be 0 < 1251455877 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: "Purist"? < 1251455905 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1/16 of 4GB is 256MB < 1251455910 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can easily imagine a program using more than that < 1251455922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the lowest infringing pointer is 268435456 < 1251455929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is much larger than I've ever seen < 1251455933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but tru, dat < 1251455946 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :28'@:::***** < 1251455952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: if you allocate more than 256MB of memory, at least one pointer will have to be that high < 1251455962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just would be nice to store it all in the pointer and not worry about it < 1251455966 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: heh < 1251455971 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the use of '@ confused me for a while < 1251455985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that do? < 1251455987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you feel /really evil/, store everything in a long double < 1251455990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from multiply a lot < 1251455995 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: pushes the ASCII code of @ onto the stack, which is 64 < 1251455997 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 268435456 allowing ASCII < 1251456003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, I don't feel evil; I'm trying to be as simple as possible here < 1251456005 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the code in general is working out 2^28 < 1251456021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting the tag in the pointer would be the simplest way; unfortunately it looks like it won't work < 1251456023 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :28::::::::********* if you don't like '@ < 1251456035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll preallocate a pool of memory < 1251456039 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: 28::*:::****** < 1251456045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no < 1251456053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd still have to be like 256mb < 1251456054 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Sure, that's just what my program gives :-P < 1251456068 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a Befunge constants program? < 1251456077 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, since a few days ago < 1251456099 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have made it a few years ago, would have saved me some time with Mycology :-P < 1251456155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cca.org/dave/tech/machine.html < 1251456156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AKJSdhsdkjghdkfhgskdfjhgtoibsjofgpdgmkj hkfdjgh < 1251456157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fuck want so much < 1251456172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my inner buddha came out to dissuade me, then saw it and immediately inverted itself < 1251456187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i now have an all-consuming materialist desire for that object. < 1251456198 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? < 1251456217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm not going to answer that, because you have a program that can tell you that requires less work and less irritation of people. < 1251456238 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I can't be bothered to understand the context of your discussions, then < 1251456244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then don't ask. < 1251456255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it hard to believe that you can't just click to open the page < 1251456273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you actually cared, you wouldn't make a deal out of it wrt "look at me, I'm unable to click links" < 1251456607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, they guy who made that page coined the term eternal september < 1251456609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uber-cool < 1251456610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the < 1251458130 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1251458206 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's hard to describe ... the flavor is a bit more citrusy (duh), but it's the mouthfeel that improved substantially. < 1251458217 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that slight flavor of dissolving teeth < 1251458307 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That turned out to be a simple optimization, 288:*:*:*** is what comes out now < 1251458321 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of Underload a lot < 1251458329 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my words exactly < 1251458329 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with chaining together : and * to make numbers < 1251458380 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (*):*:*:***S < 1251458381 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of stack! < 1251458385 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1251458404 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1251458408 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, typically there's + too, that was just a power of 2 :-P < 1251458429 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload has no + < 1251458441 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sucks to be underload < 1251458452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiplication's a lot easier than addition in underload < 1251458471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addition is something like ((:)~*(*)*)~^^ < 1251458490 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (::::****)(::::::******)((:)~*(*)*)~^^S < 1251458491 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::::::::::::*********** < 1251458502 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1251458508 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by one? < 1251458514 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not at all < 1251458519 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 + 7 = 12 < 1251458522 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er right < 1251458530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're off-by-one in attempting to parse Underload numbers < 1251458576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say something < 1251458598 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : he never wants to have "Xs" and "Xing" included < 1251458620 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _do_ sometimes get annoyed by google being a bit too clever at second-guessing me < 1251458640 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus including exactly what i try to avoid < 1251458871 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Warrigal: wait, no, that's equivalent to A and B together :P < 1251458884 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's essentially conway game subtraction iirc < 1251458906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obvious that B linking A and B is identical to A and B talking < 1251458915 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*C < 1251458916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :B linking A to B to C isn't equal to anything but that < 1251458919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uhh < 1251458921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see my line above < 1251458926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you stoopid < 1251458935 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1251458950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no C < 1251458951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in mine < 1251458955 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C linking A and B < 1251458972 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-buixdklrmqgkaemv JOIN :#esoteric < 1251459032 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linking yourself into it means you'll actually have to come up with conversation :D < 1251459109 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : mix carbonated water, caffeine, and a shitload of Fisherman's Friend lozenges <-- are we trying to test just exactly how far GregorR_ is from human now? < 1251459116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwahaha < 1251459120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've gotta do that, actually < 1251459122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure I could < 1251459129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might throw up afterwards, though < 1251459143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least need to spend a day fasting and drinking salt water to cleanse it out < 1251459176 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least you should have a clear throat < 1251459192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my throat clearness might wrap around < 1251459210 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be a problem < 1251459345 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wonder if there are any mints stronger than fisherman's friend < 1251459352 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not. strongest there is. < 1251459361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally :P < 1251459372 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251459466 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might even be true, since if it wasn't, the competition could sue them for false advertising < 1251459478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think other brands do it too < 1251459486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"strongest there is" is so vague to be meaningless < 1251459500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could argue "well it feels punchier than the others even though it isn't actually stronger", etc < 1251459503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's marketing for you < 1251459526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i propose calling my drink: Fisherman's Fiend < 1251459566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, would it cause a diet coke and mentos-type explosion? < 1251459567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1251459568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess not < 1251459575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the carb water + caffeine isn't "diet" < 1251459579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess it's in the name for a reason < 1251459770 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, pfizer _did_ get smacked down in norway for stealing that slogan for one of its pills, and not being able to document it was true < 1251459798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not a confectionary < 1251459806 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well true < 1251460325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, iwc (just connected to bouncer from university) < 1251460343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I don't get the broom reference < 1251460449 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit he removed the links to the other sites on the top < 1251460544 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "sweeping under the rug" < 1251460558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Persion" < 1251460561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x_x < 1251460612 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be a typo < 1251460627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not hard to proof-read a four-frame comic < 1251460680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh < 1251460793 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: he _did_ mention he had little time that week ;D < 1251460819 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is related to earlier things, but in the Scheme compiler I wrote recently I did put everything in the pointer; but that was for x86-64, which has 64-bit pointers even though the current hardware only has 48 address lines, so it's quite safe. < 1251460853 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, not future proof in any way < 1251460863 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, plus, doesn't the spec say they *have < 1251460870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: accounting for the buffer? < 1251460872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have* to be sign extended? < 1251460879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right, with 54-bit it's fine < 1251460881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*64 < 1251460884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: dude < 1251460885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut UP < 1251460888 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: "that" yes < 1251460895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no < 1251460908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 64-bit is 16,777,216 terabytes < 1251460921 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'@:*:* < 1251460922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fuck off with the "future proof" bullshit < 1251460923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes I know. < 1251460929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just irritating < 1251460930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing more < 1251460944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, however, No one will ever need more than 32 bits. A whopping 4 GB RAM? Never. < 1251460946 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell 2^48 < 1251460947 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sign-extension doesn't really matter; I mean, there's a sign-extending shift operation and everything. (And anyway I'm dealing with user-land pointers only, which have the sign bit set to zero.) < 1251460950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster < 1251460958 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :281474976710656 < 1251460998 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'@:*:*:* < 1251461092 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, I do a fixed-address mmap for my memory, so it's "future-proof" in some sense (though not portable at all), in that it won't stop working, it's just limited to some 64 petabytes of addressable space. < 1251461157 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Comments on a Postcard :D < 1251461163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Let's say that you manage, by force of pure magic, to fit a megabyte in ONE ANGSTROM. < 1251461178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The whole 64-bit address space would take up 1,119 miles, with nothing between the megabytes. < 1251461198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Such colossal, colossal storage in the future - and you believe these will use today's 64-bit processors running on today's operating systems? < 1251461213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: And, in fact, our current stuff does less. < 1251461215 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: one cubic angstrom, surely? ;D < 1251461219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, all addresses are even. < 1251461220 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ã…ngstrom* < 1251461224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even. < 1251461229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So half that. < 1251461230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT < 1251461237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the top bits are reserved for internal amd64 stuff, I forget how much < 1251461241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So subdivide it even more < 1251461243 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ã…ngström < 1251461245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hardware is ALREADY limited < 1251461256 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, true, woops < 1251461258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And current physical constraints much, much moreso. < 1251461280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CALLING USING THE UPPER BITS OF A 64-BIT POINTER "NOT FUTURE PROOF" is... just unbelievably retarded. < 1251461295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So please, shut up. < 1251461331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1251461333 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 2^64 cubic angstrom in cubic meters < 1251461334 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2^64) (cubic angstrom) = 1.84467441 × 10^-11 cubic meters < 1251461369 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 2^64 cubic angstrom in cubic millimeters < 1251461370 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2^64) (cubic angstrom) = 0.0184467441 cubic millimeters < 1251461388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure thing then. i'm eagerly awaiting your megabyte-in-cubic-armstrong technology < 1251461398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I don't think the laws of physics are on your side. < 1251461400 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.org <- Nobody cares enough to cybersquat it" < 1251461407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if I was doing 64-bit only I wouldn't even think about it < 1251461413 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually using the lowest byte (it's easier to test for types, since the least significant byte of x86-64 registers is independently accessible, and a single "sar rn, 8" makes a suitably sign-extended pointer out of it), to be a pedant. < 1251461427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comes out to the same thing < 1251461437 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i am merely pointing out that putting things on a line rather than in a volume is disingenious < 1251461440 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but you said "top". < 1251461447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't think properly < 1251461449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't matter < 1251461461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a far more reasonable thing would be, say, "4 bytes in an angstrom" < 1251461472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even that would be extremely lucky... < 1251461513 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oh wait, you said megabyte? i calculated for single bytes ;D < 1251461544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug - show your tech < 1251461546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds amazing < 1251461566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can fit a whole byte in an angstrom somehow, and bunch this right up against other bytes with no instability? < 1251461568 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_you_ brought up the example < 1251461570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and observe and modify the values? < 1251461589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was just trying to explain how colossally huge 64-bit is < 1251461617 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 2^64 square angstrom in square millimeters < 1251461618 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2^64) (square angstrom) = 184 467.441 square millimeters < 1251461629 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 2^64 square angstrom in square meters < 1251461630 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2^64) (square angstrom) = 0.184467441 square meters < 1251461645 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2D is a bit harder to fit < 1251461659 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One 32-bit Scheme I've seen took two bits out of 32-bit values; you can quite reasonably (it might even be preferrable) align everything on a dword boundary, so they used the two lowest bits to get 30-bit inline integers, tags for two of the most popular pointery types (symbols and pairs, I think) and a third "pointer to some other type" value, where the other types had a type byte in front of the actual value in memory. < 1251461678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 64-bit address space in 18 centimeters? < 1251461687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack it up higher than a single angstrom :P < 1251461693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :little cube of near-infinite capacity! < 1251461699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: Comments on a Postcard :D <-- indeed < 1251461699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a little USB connector poking out of it < 1251461729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: aligning sounds nice < 1251461740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but I really need 4-bits to fit every disjoint scheme type < 1251461746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, more, in fact < 1251461750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the different numeric types < 1251461775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: Such colossal, colossal storage in the future - and you believe these will use today's 64-bit processors running on today's operating systems? <-- no, but what about 48 bits? How much would that be? What about extending to, say, 50 bits? < 1251461789 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, the more complicated numbers need more complicated storage formats in memory; you can put their more-detailed-type information there. < 1251461799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right, but it's nice to have one simple type predicate < 1251461803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise i'd just have lower bit 1 = fixnum < 1251461807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything else = pointer < 1251461819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Less. Does fizzie's interp use that many tag bits? No. < 1251461826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Does amd64 reserve bits anyway? Yes. < 1251461835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the sign bit is used for user vs. kernel space iirc < 1251461840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really. Today's systems. < 1251461852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such vast memory spaces ... will not be used by today's processors. < 1251461862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... ugh, why do I bother, you're stupid < 1251461862 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I manipulate only user-space pointers, *plus* I sign-extend the values, so I don't see why the sign bit would be relevant. < 1251461871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right < 1251461877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's not future proof and it's bad and you should feel bad. < 1251461891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :& < 1251461894 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1251461894 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Too noisy here" < 1251461901 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I do have 56-bit pointers; that's good for the next two reasonable address space increases (48 → 52, 52 → 56). < 1251461903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up amd64 arch docs < 1251461904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noyzi < 1251461999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hey, all of the numeric types fit in the 4 bits < 1251462001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nice < 1251462022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well http://pastebin.ca/1545691 < 1251462026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amd64 manual < 1251462047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, according to that the hardware checks that the addresses are correct. But seems it isn't true? < 1251462063 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? I sign-extend before use. < 1251462071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh ok < 1251462072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1251462074 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly you can put any 64 bits in a register if you don't use them for memory-referencing. < 1251462076 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, there's a Game of Life implementation that computed 6 octillion generations of a Game of Life pattern in under 30 seconds < 1251462082 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all of them, presumably, just the 6-octillionth < 1251462083 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, of course < 1251462090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oc...tillion? < 1251462094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you write that out? < 1251462109 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 6,366,548,773,467,669,985,195,496,000 was the exact number < 1251462115 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1251462115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1251462117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what computer < 1251462117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, link? < 1251462118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what algo < 1251462119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1251462119 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't compute one generation at a time < 1251462120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1251462124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll have read it in a newspaper < 1251462126 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I asked for link first < 1251462128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all he doesn't use t he wb < 1251462129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1251462129 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashlife explains it < 1251462130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*web < 1251462133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251462136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're serious? < 1251462140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're meant to get excited about hashlife? < 1251462143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't heard of it before? < 1251462151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but it's still exciting < 1251462154 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you did get excited < 1251462158 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it's old news < 1251462165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't grasp the scale of the number < 1251462173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your tone excited me by proxy < 1251462182 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, I think the speeds attained with it are relatively recent < 1251462186 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if the algorithm isn't < 1251462190 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that picture was uploaded in June < 1251462196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but is from Golly < 1251462200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has existed for years < 1251462202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly the same < 1251462223 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I like out-of-date info, it's more fun than the nonsense we get nowadays < 1251462231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1251462248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"6,366,548,773,467,669,985,195,496,000 (6 octillion) generations of a very complicated Game of Life pattern computed in less than 30 seconds on an Intel Duo 2GHz CPU using hashlife in Golly." < 1251462253 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around here 6 octillion (okay, "oktiljoona") would be 6'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000; but everyone's so short-scale nowadays. < 1251462262 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's amazing that you can get that sort of compression < 1251462322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1251462325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's think about this < 1251462341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :divide by 30 → 2.12218292 × 10^26 generations a second < 1251462345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, imagine doing that for non-eso languages < 1251462347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, to find out how many cycles < 1251462351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can just divide it by the hertz < 1251462364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2,000,000,000 hz < 1251462379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, duo. So multi-core. No idea if you can take advantage of that? < 1251462385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1251462387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i know of < 1251462416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :result: it takes 106109146000000016 cycles to calculate one generation < 1251462419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... is that right? < 1251462421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks too big < 1251462423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well you could design a FPGA that each solves it in it's own "area" and also communicates with nodes next to it about the edge state < 1251462426 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1251462427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it's not non-trivial < 1251462429 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's the number of generations it calculates in one cycle < 1251462432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that isn't used here < 1251462443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm < 1251462458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that can't be right. Well... hashlife cache patterns right? So maybe < 1251462458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how many nanoseconds per generation? < 1251462463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it repeats a lot < 1251462467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1251462470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hashlife speeds up anything < 1251462472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :massively < 1251462475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it could compute it once, and look it up < 1251462476 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's memoization < 1251462478 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you suggest < 1251462482 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, exactly < 1251462529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending how how that mentioned example progresses... it could mean it could just look up a pattern during the last n period or such < 1251462536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1251462573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the whole point of trying to find out number of cycles like above is quite pointless when hashlife is used < 1251462594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as it said, hashlife was used. < 1251462598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....... < 1251462600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that? < 1251462612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1251462619 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approximately 0.0000000000000000047 ns per generation; that's 0.0047 yoctoseconds. SI multipliers don't go any further. :/ < 1251462629 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, XD < 1251462649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: impressive < 1251462652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what about planck seconds? < 1251462688 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :106109146000000016 = 28'94'@*+'#6'@*+'!4'@f2+f8+***+'C65'@74'@*+***+***** < 1251462696 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, XD < 1251462726 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 25404219107538000043226 Planck time units, I think. < 1251462730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, sure it can't be made shorter? < 1251462733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1251462739 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2bf8+76'@f8+"528"9**+***+7"2!@"f4+'w' +'ga'@*+*****+**** < 1251462759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, where is the code to this generator? < 1251462761 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Of course I'm not sure, bruteforcing that would take forever :-P < 1251462778 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently it's on my hard disk < 1251462794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, how does it work. I mean overall algorithm < 1251462833 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's 25 sextillion Planck time units, for short-scale countries.) < 1251462891 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's not that hard; just find the Kolmogorov complexity of the constant in some suitable language, and then transform that to optimal Befunge. (I'll leave the implementation to you.) < 1251462916 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-ogjollwsmvempxya JOIN :#esoteric < 1251462928 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first step's not computable, I guess, but don't let that stop you. < 1251462935 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Basically: factorize; for any factors that are too big, reduce them by subtraction into two smaller numbers and repeat < 1251462940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (That's 25 sextillion Planck time units, for short-scale countries.) <-- short scale countries? < 1251462946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah smart < 1251462965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and a lookup take for small numbers? < 1251462969 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes, the people who think "billion" is 1'000'000'000 instead of 1'000'000'000'000. < 1251462974 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nah, it's fast enough < 1251462980 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or what did you mean < 1251463007 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wait. What about sv:"million" < 1251463008 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a list of "easy" numbers, which defaults to printable ASCII and 0-15 < 1251463022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that en-us:billion? or eh... < 1251463027 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Everyone's "million" is the same, it's the larger numbers that differ. < 1251463027 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I.e. stuff that can be made in ASCII using the [0-9a-f] commands and ') < 1251463049 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your "billion" is the US trillion, I guess. I mean, if your billion is the same as ours. < 1251463077 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh right. I always write it as 10^n when it gets large < 1251463085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid all translation issues < 1251463109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, miljard? < 1251463115 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the US billion. < 1251463122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the step above million here < 1251463123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1251463162 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The short scale has pretty much won the competition for the English-speaking world. Wasn't it so that even the British use it nowadays? < 1251463177 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1251463180 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Alas) < 1251463278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia claims Sweden uses long scale hm < 1251463298 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, many non-English-speaking European countries do. < 1251463303 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We, too. < 1251463309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1251463385 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the SI prefixes are unambiguous. It would be nice to see newspaper articles to speak of gigadollars and teradollars, but somehow I doubt that'll happen. :/ < 1251463441 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The 700 gigadollar bailout", it has a nice ring to it. < 1251463529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the rectangular hole near the back of the laptop is. There is an odd symbol next to it. Like [] [] | with a horizontal line through it all < 1251463550 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "the CBO has estimated the total cost of the war in Iraq to U.S. taxpayers will be around 1.9 teradollars". Something like that. < 1251463580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that is terrable ;p < 1251463691 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About the only "unexplained but labeled" holes I've seen in laptops have been places for those security-lock-things, but I don't quite see how that symbol would be related. < 1251463726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm... it looks like it could be such a hole. Considering size and shape < 1251463740 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like the one in http://yourblog.direct2dell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/photo-111.jpg then? < 1251463785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wait that jpg looks like like a gif. With the postorizing (sp?) effect < 1251463787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1251463792 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelling very off < 1251463794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1251463798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah something like that < 1251463822 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could be a very stylized depiction of a key, then. < 1251463836 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The iBook has a very unambiguous lock symbol next to the corresponding slot. < 1251463927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, actually I don't think the line through go all the way through... could be a chain? it is a bit hard to see... since it is right *below* the screen, due to being next to the hinge for the monitor < 1251463940 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251463943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a weird placement of something the used is supposed to see < 1251463946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1251463947 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a chain, then; it's usually a cable-style lock. < 1251463948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1251463960 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they want to sell more < 1251463966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they like the laptops to get stolen < 1251463987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus they just provide the hole for those who know they want one, and hope no one else discovers it < 1251464001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, plausible? < 1251464079 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I'd be so paranoid; it could be just that they didn't give much consideration to where to put the hole. < 1251464158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, at least laptops has ports you can reach, unlike many desktops... < 1251464166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well generally usb at the front these days < 1251464185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and *sometimes* also headphone/mic < 1251464206 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-172-4-174.range86-172.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251464309 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "2*usb, maybe firewire, 2*3.5mm stereo plugs" front panel combo seems to be pretty common. < 1251464356 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also people keep adding USB ports to monitors; my main one has two. It's reasonably convenient for the memory card reader. < 1251464397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, 2 stereo plugs doesn't seem to work with sound card, only with on board audio. Generally the sound card has different connectors for front panel than the mobo < 1251464402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in my experience < 1251464451 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly, yes. I haven't been dabbling with separate soundcards lately. < 1251464468 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt the s/pdif digital output would be very different for a more expensive sound card, anyway. < 1251464482 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I hope so. It's supposed to just pass through the bytes. < 1251464502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well, I use it mostly for midi reasons. < 1251464528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardware midi tends to be a lot better than software midi. software midi very often stutters too IME < 1251464544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVEN on modern systems < 1251464644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least with a good soundfont. Crappy consumer ones tend to be so small just a few MB... < 1251464665 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION normally uses airfont340 which is around 70 MB < 1251464716 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If somebody wanted to look at the source of the number-to-funge tool, http://funge.pastebin.com/fcc9e805 < 1251464741 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There aren't very many pastes in the funge pastebin. :/ < 1251464780 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would've used the esoteric pastebin but there was a rather odd paste there I'd rather not be associated with < 1251464813 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Uh." < 1251464867 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I can't quite decide what I need to do with my peppermint soda at this point. < 1251464872 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it just needs more peppermint. < 1251464886 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You were the one who asked about it ^ < 1251464893 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add more pepper, substract some mint. < 1251464898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yes downloaded it < 1251464900 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or vice versa < 1251464904 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/st/t/ < 1251464916 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, will look closer when I get home, since I need to leave in a few minutes < 1251464920 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Divide by pepper, multiply by mint and you'll get a mintmintsoda < 1251464950 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, actually: will look closer on sunday. since I have a test tomorrow, and I need to study for it... < 1251464974 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exams on saturdays = teh lose < 1251464990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, agreed. At least the next two ones won't be that way < 1251465009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, they are on Tuesday and Friday during week 45. Both of them < 1251465010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1251465017 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When's week 45 < 1251465029 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cal(1) doesn't do week numbers < 1251465031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, um it's week 35 now so < 1251465081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, the date/calender thingy that pops up in both gnome and kde when you click the clock in the menu/taskbar/whatever shows week numbers < 1251465097 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no such thingy, nor gnome or kde < 1251465110 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ncal -w" does weeks. < 1251465119 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have ncal < 1251465124 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should get it < 1251465127 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what OS? < 1251465132 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux < 1251465137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, WM? < 1251465143 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Openbox < 1251465144 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian puts both cal and ncal to the "bsdmainutils" package. < 1251465154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, iirc he use arch < 1251465164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uses* < 1251465167 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1251465179 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, week 45 is from November 2nd to 8th. < 1251465205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, iirc there is some "reverse package lookup" tool on arch too < 1251465207 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in the ncal numbering. It's not the only possible way to count, though. < 1251465207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot the name < 1251465213 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no package by the name of ncal, only "mencal" which advertises itself as a cal variant < 1251465245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I know I used it. but can't reach the arch computer atm, due to it being at home and unplugged with no ram sticks in it while waiting for new ram. < 1251465306 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can always abuse "date" if you want, though it's not very user-friendly. < 1251465308 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fis@eris:~$ date --date='2009-11-02' +%V < 1251465308 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :45 < 1251465333 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can do a couple of different week numberings; %V is the ISO week number, with Monday as the start date. < 1251465344 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mencal is evidently a "menstruation calendar" which doesn't do week numbers < 1251465372 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : %U week number of year, with Sunday as first day of week (00..53) < 1251465373 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : %V ISO week number, with Monday as first day of week (01..53) < 1251465373 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : %W week number of year, with Monday as first day of week (00..53) < 1251465409 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are Finland's week numbers %V? < 1251465423 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess they are but I've never looked into it < 1251465434 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, yes. At least %V has matched the two or three times I've used it to look up a week number. < 1251465492 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISO weeks are numbered so that each week begins on Mon, and is associated with the year that contains the week's Thursday. < 1251465500 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251465510 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in my dream < 1251465519 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR_ had an interesting hobby < 1251465539 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Most of Europe ISO 8601(1988) except UK, European Norm EN 28601 (1992)"; I guess it's what is used here too. < 1251465549 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he made these mechas < 1251465604 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, 3-4 meter tall mechas that shot laser, flew with rocket boots < 1251465642 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he had made 5 of them, fizzie also made one, and they fought once < 1251465670 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also GregorR_ showed us a proof of his newest mecha working, because ehird didn't believe him < 1251465693 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weirdly enough, you prove a mecha works the same way you prove the smallest disc containing a set of points is unique < 1251465706 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, XD < 1251465737 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1251465744 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the same day this happened, i chanced upon GregorR_ here in turku, he was here to give like a presentation of some sort < 1251465765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, on mechas? < 1251465788 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'd have taken me to colorado/california, where he lived, same thing in the dream, to see the newest mecha, but it was already 17:15, so the last train to america had already left < 1251465808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, you are making this dream up < 1251465815 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he had to go to helsinki for the night, to sleep at fizzie's (apparently once you've fought someone with a mecha, you're friends for life.) < 1251465822 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no < 1251465839 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought fizzie lived in Espoo? < 1251465840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, it sounds too weird and too detailed... but ok < 1251465850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, helsinki isn't in Europe? < 1251465850 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: true, i may have made up a few details, i'm not sure it was a train to america, may have been a bus < 1251465859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, XD < 1251465864 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not making up anything important, naturally it's somewhat fuzzy < 1251465878 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: yes, but i always say he lives in helsinki < 1251465883 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1251465892 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, taking the ferry between Siberia and Alaska? < 1251465940 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: may even have been an airplane, all i know is we were standing somewhere that looked somewhat like the turku train station < 1251465941 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Espoo, not Europe. Weird reado (opposite of typo?) < 1251465970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, heh < 1251465975 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I was wondering what you were asking that for :-P < 1251465994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I can understand that < 1251466032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watch some modern sculpture outside the window... < 1251466035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I think it is that < 1251466068 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also think i had another dream that was just about the discs < 1251466084 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's basically just me reading computational geometry, not sure it's worth telling < 1251466150 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my dream I had a piano shipped from Russia, and I had to have a friend pick the lock of the shipping container at the customs station; and it was like the usual thing to do, the customs declaration form even had a checkbox and a text field like "[ ] lock picked by: ___________". < 1251466192 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two upright metal tubes, one with a metal cone at the top end, there are some orange, green and blue thing at the middle of other one, and the cone one spiral pattern with those colours. Or it could be some sort of "hip" chimney I guess... < 1251466308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uploads a photo from the phone < 1251466333 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you play? < 1251466339 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not at all. < 1251466382 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did manage to lose the piano, too; I spent at least two days on the phone calling people in Russia and the Finnish post system, but no-one had a clue to where it went. You'd think a thing like that would be a bit too big to just lose like that. < 1251466461 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :library time, GregorR_: if you start building mechas, do tell, i'll definitely fight you < 1251466463 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251466465 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )" < 1251466474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/HwZXT <-- modern art or hip chimney? < 1251466614 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ^ < 1251466622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz direct link to the images < 1251466626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that looks cool. < 1251466641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[12:43] fizzie: At least the SI prefixes are unambiguous. It would be nice to see newspaper articles to speak of gigadollars and teradollars, but somehow I doubt that'll happen. :/ < 1251466642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tarsnap TOS speaks of "300 picodollars" < 1251466654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "bye-months" or something < 1251466655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*byte < 1251466661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[13:21] oklofok: weirdly enough, you prove a mecha works the same way you prove the smallest disc containing a set of points is unique < 1251466661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251466674 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1251466686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: did you see my Fisherman's Fiend? < 1251466690 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, no? < 1251466698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it's a drink you should make < 1251466700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ingredients: < 1251466701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :carbonated water < 1251466702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :caffeine < 1251466707 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fish < 1251466709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fuckton of Fisherman's Friend lozenges < 1251466726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's (a) soda (b) caffeine (c) minty (d) Hey, my mouth burned off. cool! < 1251466737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e) I never really liked it anyway. < 1251466743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f) Okay I'm sort of missing my teeth. < 1251466753 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so which do you think? modern art or chimney? < 1251466756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Both. < 1251466763 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm maybe < 1251466769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: (You know what those mints are right) < 1251466773 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1251466789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Let's just say they're... strong < 1251466798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And leave it at that. < 1251466804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now go buy a whole bunch! < 1251466807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl going home < 1251466857 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With art, you can never be sure. < 1251466858 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably stronger than Altoids. < 1251466873 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And with the world's most annoying website. < 1251466884 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"mi klama lo zdani be mi" < 1251466886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Yes, stronger. < 1251466888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, agreed. < 1251466973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you actually drink a whole glass of Fisherman's Fiend, I will start a religion concerning the worship of You, incarnation of the One True Deity of exquisite unsurmountableness :P < 1251467273 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251468195 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the best free Windows antivirus at the moment? < 1251468246 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@194.157.8.100 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251468565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: uhh < 1251468580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :avast? < 1251468582 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have family here who are running to the end of a Norton subscriptoin < 1251468588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: just give them avg < 1251468588 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I know that isn't the best antivirus for them to be using < 1251468590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the "simplest" < 1251468609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual best windows antivirus is the non-free nod32 < 1251468626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, ridiculously, written entirely in assembl < 1251468626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1251468642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ridiculous alright < 1251468660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it works well, unobtrusively, and uses very, very little system resources < 1251468752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the best windows anti-virus is you can guess the rest < 1251469600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A Dutch court has put a 13-year-old girl under state care for two months, stalling her bid to become the youngest person to sail solo around the world." < 1251469755 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-9-92.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251469981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP society ??? — 28 August 2009 < 1251469985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Epic fail." has appeared in a BBC article < 1251470010 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're such an rss < 1251470046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really stupid subject? < 1251470056 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant like rss feed < 1251470061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1251470070 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251470076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: yeah, awesome.rss < 1251470089 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, you are a good rss < 1251470092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the only person that distills pure awesome from the internet then let it percolate to the channel :P < 1251470095 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to eat pizza today. < 1251470098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lets < 1251470100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: sweet, what kind < 1251470111 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called "fuerte" < 1251470118 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always eat it, let's see if i have any idea what's in it < 1251470124 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... kebab meat < 1251470131 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1251470152 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always switch tomato to... < 1251470155 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1251470163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251470176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: you're such an rss generated by a markov chain < 1251470182 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! blue cheese or whatever the white version of it is called < 1251470198 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then like garlic i think < 1251470219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be garlic! < 1251470228 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not entirely sure what else, at least two more ingredients < 1251470245 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the pizza i've been taking for the last half a year or so < 1251470257 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a "the usual?" customer < 1251470281 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually i'm the the usual customer < 1251470313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1251470320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"taking" < 1251470327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i support the legalisation of medical pizza. < 1251470384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: you should make a pizza entirely out of meat. < 1251470394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe like a base < 1251470413 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :taking. < 1251470413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sauce is like liquidised meat in broth < 1251470423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1251470454 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meat is good < 1251470483 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be a carnivore if i could affort it, and if my stomach could stomach it < 1251470497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my stomach stomachs stomachs < 1251470514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: I think that's an affrond < 1251470550 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1251470554 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what an affrond is < 1251470559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: "affort it" < 1251470644 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1251470651 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too complex < 1251470654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'd be a carnivore if i could affort it, < 1251470658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oklofok: I think that's an affrond < 1251470689 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :defining "affrond" to mean an excuse, it makes sense to me < 1251470703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: the word is "afford", not "affort" < 1251470710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as the word is "affront", not "affrond" < 1251470713 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8,| < 1251470722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you made big unnoticey error lol < 1251470732 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seriously didn't see that :D < 1251470737 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not exactly like me < 1251470757 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1251470765 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm an angry bear < 1251470781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/bearhello < 1251470784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have... bear... powers? < 1251471024 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not < 1251471031 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too angry < 1251471037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: then you are not a bear < 1251471048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :citation: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/bearhello < 1251471123 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say no bear powers => not bear? < 1251471129 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall dat < 1251471135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not technically, but it is implied by "bear powers" < 1251471145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance "human abilities" are things all humans can do? < 1251471189 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they only *may* have bear powers, that doesn't necessarily mean all do < 1251471198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the name! < 1251471214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, portals and bears are connected by yellow < 1251471218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :portals are pretty odd < 1251471223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can ascertain that portals are a bear power < 1251471232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you clearly have a portal to here, IRC < 1251471236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so either you have bear powers or are not a bear < 1251471238 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251471238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is it < 1251471240 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :portello < 1251471245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :portendo < 1251471250 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :portavno < 1251471269 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1251471277 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Port-a-potty. < 1251471288 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, I missed your sequence of portly things. < 1251471301 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251471313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrorists are illegal < 1251471314 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had portable pores next < 1251471320 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ehird never came < 1251471328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :portable porns < 1251471343 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i must flee, the world is at plea! < 1251471344 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251471345 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )" < 1251471421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :dubby rucklings: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1251472743 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bear hello is as awesome as it was five years ago < 1251473026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of my favourite artworks < 1251473029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no joke < 1251473031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have weird tastes < 1251473376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back at home < 1251474152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://minimalissimo.com/2009/07/thinner/ holy damn < 1251474162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a fucking staple table < 1251474166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too damn awesome < 1251474183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's swedish < 1251474187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a rather big negative point < 1251474190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((AnMaster now mauls me.)) < 1251474307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you can read swedish, right? (:P) does its website say anything about being sold anywhere? kinda hard to google for < 1251474353 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :staple table? < 1251474384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: protip: click the link. < 1251474397 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Grab "artikellista" and try googling for what I think are product codes (TI 8080, etc) < 1251474404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yeah, I saw that in the pdf < 1251474413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you said the website was in swedish, though < 1251474416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't imagine they're remotely affordable < 1251474417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not that page < 1251474420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pictures aren't in any language < 1251474429 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean I have to use a browser that shows /images/? < 1251474437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to look at the staple table. yes. < 1251474443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have this thing called hypermedia now. < 1251474448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can mix content types. < 1251474452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you can easily describe what the table is in less than 1000 words < 1251474461 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Other than that, at least that page doesn't say anything about anybody selling it < 1251474467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: design doesn't exactly work like that. < 1251474469 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't be bothered to browse the site < 1251474477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"staple table" is as close as you can get without looking at it. < 1251475191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, the video in http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm has haskell! < 1251475277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also emacs < 1251475288 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the screenie near the middle has what? < 1251475306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea < 1251475316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are \x -> y and {|x| y} both functions? < 1251475319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1251475344 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly made by somebody who looked at the haskell and mashed up something random code-looking :-P < 1251475352 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what first comes to mind < 1251475360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1251475360 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like a blend of Haskell and Javascript < 1251475364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the video too < 1251475376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he then does something like Sin30.cs() or something < 1251475378 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really short though so it's of course hard to tell < 1251475383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so clearly a custom language < 1251475386 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wonder what it is < 1251475396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something designed for conciseness at all cost, I guess < 1251475405 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm yeah, some kind of DSL is likely < 1251475413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grr, googling for "thinner table buy" is hard. < 1251475519 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you try the product codes? < 1251475522 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The designer's name? < 1251475525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, good idea < 1251475570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to find the ikea desk he liked to compare sizes < 1251475627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's that desk you use thingy < 1251476372 0 :SteGriff!n=SteGriff@5ad7ab47.bb.sky.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251476410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?q=ascii+art < 1251476418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have we seen SteGriff before. < 1251476424 0 :SteGriff!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No you have not < 1251476434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you sacrificed any goats yet < 1251476441 0 :SteGriff!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1251476449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what are you doing here, heathen! < 1251476465 0 :SteGriff!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1251476470 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought this channel was about dubby rucklings < 1251476479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I deny that? < 1251476486 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you didn't < 1251476488 0 :SteGriff!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like bokey smacon? < 1251476498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1251476502 0 :SteGriff!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1251476524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(alternatively, this channel is about say gex) < 1251476539 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to augur, anyway < 1251476558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Don't you mean... according to augur? < 1251476564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I forgot to flip them < 1251476569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you mean... according to augur? < 1251476571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. < 1251476587 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er... yes, I do believe that's exactly what I meant < 1251476614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's hard to apoonerise slliterations < 1251476622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A poonerise cliterations?) < 1251476803 0 :SteGriff!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ho hum < 1251476804 0 :SteGriff!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]" < 1251477061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He wouldn't have lasted long anyway < 1251481810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that link was in English in my browser....? So why did you ask for my help < 1251481825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click the link it links to. < 1251484950 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX- < 1251485043 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1251485410 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1251485485 0 :MigoMipo!n=chatzill@84-217-9-92.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251485642 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@host-81-190-247-56.malbork.mm.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1251485643 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1251485663 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do an esolang in base 5 < 1251486006 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-77-180.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251486112 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251486228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well doesn't say anything I can see directly < 1251486230 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1251486231 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1251486234 0 :MigoMipo!n=chatzill@84-217-9-92.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251486239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1251486250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, about ordering... < 1251486256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251486269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell does firefox take several minutes to prepare 5 pages to be printed... < 1251486269 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1251486454 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1251486486 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linger ficking good < 1251486587 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I want to do an esolang in base 5 < 1251486593 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be easy enough < 1251486616 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I guess I can blame the slow preparing the print on that it was all a very long and very detailed table < 1251486622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though only 7 pages in total < 1251486668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so not 5, typoed above) < 1251487002 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1251487007 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :commands would be < 1251487011 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :increment by 3, decrement by 2 < 1251487022 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift the numbers left twice < 1251487027 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(numbers will be 000-444) < 1251487045 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotate the stack by one < 1251487048 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :create a number < 1251487049 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remove a number < 1251487053 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift, not rotate? < 1251487151 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :left twice = multiply by 25, sort of < 1251487256 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotate the stack? then it's a deque... < 1251487294 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :partially, at least < 1251487307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays around with designs for a House That Doesn't Suck(TM) < 1251487329 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it blows instead? < 1251487332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am easily amused < 1251487335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes :P < 1251487488 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if there is a term for pairs of words that can be both synonyms and antonyms < 1251487503 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1251487507 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stack will contain x numbers < 1251487511 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where x is how many you've created < 1251487520 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creating it pushes all the stack numbers down and makes a new one < 1251487539 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Removing it removes the current one and pushes all the stack numbers up < 1251487548 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think of it as a dynamic array < 1251487552 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a rotating pointer < 1251487555 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing unusual there < 1251487580 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you can rotate from/to the bottom as well, it's a deque < 1251487588 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1251487595 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only move the pointer right though < 1251487599 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what does deque mean < 1251487625 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double-Ended QUEue < 1251487651 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lmgtfy.com/?q=deque < 1251487665 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well i'm not sure if I should add both-way rotation < 1251487678 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also rotating from the last cell moves you to the first < 1251489639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251490894 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@host86-169-7-142.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251491540 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251492841 0 :Gracenotes_!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1251493782 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1251494156 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@88-148-171-132.co.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251494549 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251494591 0 :MigoMipo!n=chatzill@84-217-9-92.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251494751 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251495125 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251495307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1251496192 0 :nescience!n=myndzi@67-40-212-106.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251497340 0 :Gracenotes_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :SendQ exceeded < 1251497458 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1251497516 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251497561 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r01snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1251498337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251498734 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r01snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1251499393 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251500389 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, AVG has a Linuz version < 1251500398 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Linux < 1251500507 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Asztal < 1251500608 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251501997 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, someone hacked into apache.org < 1251502313 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1251502354 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they got the ssh key for one of the backup servers somehow < 1251502367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and used it to push CGI scripts that let them do anything to the main site < 1251502375 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but someone there noticed < 1251502564 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/apache_org_downtime_initial_report < 1251502602 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, for all we know, it was a successful takeover and that blog post was planted < 1251503370 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Our tables are the "Galant" IKEA ones. But you are no longer here! It is a tragedy. < 1251503731 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, ehird was in finland? < 1251503852 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1251503885 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"o" is finish for "I can neither confirm nor deny that", right? < 1251503888 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*finnish < 1251503943 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1251503958 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspected that < 1251503967 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: + "and even if i could, i probably wouldn't want to" < 1251503976 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha