00:06:46 -!- suitdetony has joined. 00:12:21 -!- ehird_ has joined. 00:16:44 cuando nací me dijo la partera: hay mijo cuando estés grande pobre de la chava que te de las nalgas si que va a gritar en la primera noche que se meta contigo ya que pareces burro jajajaja 00:17:10 hola 00:17:23 hola chicas ya llegué 00:22:39 -!- ehird2 has joined. 00:22:52 -!- ehird2 has left (?). 00:23:14 -!- ehird2 has joined. 00:29:23 -!- ehird has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 00:30:10 Hmm, where'd he go. Oh, maybe standby. 00:44:51 Oh, it's not me 00:44:59 ? 00:44:59 suitdetony: who are you 00:45:12 THE HORROR 00:45:15 [00:29] ehird left the chat room. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:45:16 [00:30] ehird2: Hmm, where'd he go. Oh, maybe standby. 00:45:16 [00:44] ehird_: Oh, it's not me 00:45:31 ehird2 ehird_ and ehird 00:45:36 TOO MANY 00:46:01 ehird2 shouldn't still be alive, it is the now-shutdown netbook. 00:46:07 ehird_ is me, ehird is evil ghost me. 00:46:15 Who is now dead. 00:46:26 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 00:46:40 -!- FireFly has quit ("Later"). 00:47:02 16:16:44 when I was born the midwife said to me: there are large poor millet when the youth joined in the buttocks if you going to scream at the first night will target you because you seem burro jajajaja 00:47:02 16:17:10 hello 00:47:02 16:17:23 hello girls and I arrived 00:47:32 he is in a lot of programming/sysadmin channels. troll. 00:51:14 Point him to a hypothetical 4chan channel? 00:52:33 -!- ehird2 has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 00:54:52 what's that meant to achieve 00:55:03 13:52:36 btw. I need neighbours who actually use their wlans. Even though capturing for several hours I don't yet have enough to test WEP cracking. The most I have is around 220 IVs for one network. And I need around 5000 00:55:04 "Dammit, people! Aid my illegal activity!" 00:55:19 and you claim to try to follow the law :) 00:55:22 ehird_, like piracy? 00:55:37 Like cracking WEP 00:55:38 (Yes, yes, I see the diffference between using someone else's WLAN and piracy) 00:55:59 Why am I lagging so much? 00:56:10 I think piracy should be legal. I don't think breaking into someone else's wireless network should be legal. 01:00:15 hi my name is tony I am from Guadalajara and I am looking for a beautiful girl my email is: suitdetony@hotmail.com tank you 01:00:22 suitdetony: fuck off. 01:02:23 -!- lament has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 01:03:55 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 01:03:58 -!- suitdetony has left (?). 01:04:02 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:04:23 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 01:10:01 -!- oerjan has joined. 01:26:45 yo oerjan 01:26:50 bitchnizzle 01:28:58 * oerjan looks that up in urbandictionary and is not much wiser 01:30:06 * oerjan looks up "baller" and improves somewhat 01:31:37 also, yo 01:40:47 Word word mathematicians up? 01:43:06 grammar apparently down 01:53:33 concept stock market 01:59:51 stock your concepts today! 02:15:27 damn a concept stock market would be cool 02:15:36 "Sell 1000 hate! Buy 1000 love!" 02:15:47 "Sell all hates that can be sold for over 1000!" 02:24:46 -!- nooga has quit ("Leaving..."). 02:37:47 * GregorR is finally buying his sweet rule 110 and rule 30 tie. 02:37:51 *ties 02:41:48 Mike Keith's site's down! 02:42:10 HE MUST BY _WHY 02:42:55 ...who's _why? 02:43:50 Why the lucky stiff! 02:44:01 Sgeo_ doesn't know who _why is. Kill! 02:44:18 http://www.cadaeic.net/ 02:44:19 looks up to me 02:44:26 ehird_: He's just pretending not to know. He must be _why!!! 02:44:41 http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.cadaeic.net/ 02:44:46 GregorR: OMG 02:45:05 ehird_, http://users.aol.com/s6sj7gt/mikehome.htm 02:45:17 AOL hometown was shut down. 02:45:21 Sux2bu; who was he? 02:45:24 *Sux2be u 02:45:28 *Sux2b 02:45:44 ehird_, Mike Keith 02:45:54 The person behind Cadaeic Cadenza 02:46:07 I read Why's Ruby tutorial a long time ago 02:47:23 http://github.com/why Why is there activity from 2 days ago? 02:47:44 Somebody snagged the account when he dropped it. 02:48:11 Sgeo_: his homepage is http://www.cadaeic.net/. 02:48:34 ..oh 02:48:56 I guess the AOL thing was an older version 02:52:33 Any chance of _why returning? 02:55:32 Let me look into my crystal ball. 02:55:46 My deep inner knowledge of the man behind why shows Segmentation fault 02:55:49 A poem: 02:55:52 Orgies twixt; 02:55:54 I shat bricks; 02:55:57 This porn picture a demonic face. 02:56:03 i should make a living 02:56:06 making terrible, terrible poems 02:57:04 I had an idea for an AskReddit, but I forgot 02:57:17 Oh wait, it wasn't an askreddit idea, it was an idea for a new subreddit 02:57:29 `addquote I had an idea for an AskReddit, but I forgot 02:57:30 76| I had an idea for an AskReddit, but I forgot 02:57:30 Thrilling. 02:58:01 Is there any API for reddit bots? 02:58:56 Sgeo_: clearly you should ask reddit to help you remember it 02:59:05 lol 02:59:13 except it's probably been done already 02:59:47 I was considering posting some of Kurzweil's predictions for 2009, but it's been done elsewhere 03:01:21 What, exactly, is the reddit.com subreddit for? 03:01:30 It's the main subreddit. 03:01:40 Stop asking stupid, irrelevant questions in here; that is my job. 03:02:57 * oerjan swats ehird_ -----### 03:07:05 ehird_: Uh, no, that's totally Sgeo_'s job. 03:07:21 GregorR: yes, but if we make him think it's mine, he might stop. 03:07:31 True. 03:14:46 clever. 03:18:30 Probably won't work if we talk about it like this. 03:18:33 But it might! 03:19:35 Sell 10,000 bad tactics! Buy 1000 good tactics. 03:19:40 We're safe now. 03:20:50 Sell 5000 Unwarranted optimism! 03:20:52 BWAHAHA! 03:21:09 I gotta make this concept market, would be great as an IRC bot 03:21:23 ...unfortunately it kind of needs a backing, you know, to provide actual incentive. 03:21:59 Sell 100,000 Unmonetizable projects! 03:22:31 Buy 1,000,000,000,000,000 ridiculous market inflation! 03:22:51 Buy 1 Clue. 03:23:28 Sell 1 clue to anyone selling 1 bat, then buy that bat; buy 1 clue if bat-buying fails. 03:24:00 Sell BB(1000) Incomprehensible mathematical inflation! 03:24:15 Sell BB(A(g64,g64)) whoa. 03:24:44 Sell 1 bat for prize of 10 03:24:56 Ooh, what's a 10? >.> 03:25:05 bats. 03:25:17 oerjan: so what's high-frequency trading in this system :P 03:25:29 Sgeo_: i suggest you lease the clue that ehird_ just bought 03:25:32 wait 03:25:35 i bought it 03:25:40 MWAHAHAHA 03:25:43 * Sgeo_ was trying to comment on the typo 03:25:45 or something 03:25:50 Sgeo_: there was no typo. 03:25:53 ehird_: This clue is defective! 03:25:54 you're just dense 03:26:01 oerjan: you're perfectly clued up 03:26:04 Sgeo_ isn't though. 03:26:09 "prize" 03:26:09 ah. 03:26:16 Sgeo_: Yes? 03:26:21 You're reading it wrong. 03:26:33 Sell 35.6 THz ! 03:26:44 ^ high-frequency trading 03:26:47 :D 03:28:40 eek 03:28:44 *price 03:28:59 oerjan: oh. 03:29:00 xD 03:29:36 -!- casiobot has joined. 03:30:01 Sell 10 with small gold engraving. 03:30:34 Sell 7 smelly cells. 03:30:57 Buy cells, sell 59 nutty pets. 03:32:07 -!- casiobot has changed nick to immibis. 03:32:24 * immibis wonders why his nick was casiobot 03:32:38 You're a bot bot casiobot! 03:35:19 ? 03:35:34 Bot bot bot bot casiobot. 03:35:41 immibis: surely you've seen it... 03:35:47 unless you adopted that name in your sleep 04:10:59 -!- oerjan has quit ("Later"). 04:12:16 why aren't there any c compilers that "fake" cpp so that they can avoid recompiling the same header over and over? 04:12:23 just stick to the same semantics and you're golden 04:21:51 meanwhile, http://imgur.com/gmz2k.jpg ;_; 04:22:37 what do you mean? 04:22:52 coppro: like, c compilers do 'cpp | cc' 04:23:05 whereas, if they treat #include as "import 'foo'" 04:23:08 they could do beter analysis, 04:23:16 avoid recompiling 500000000000 files for every source file, 04:23:17 you mean cache the results from #include? 04:23:22 and still keep to the semantics if they're careful 04:23:22 coppro: no! 04:23:49 then what? 04:24:04 [04:23] ehird_: whereas, if they treat #include as "import 'foo'" 04:24:04 [04:23] ehird_: they could do beter analysis, 04:24:04 [04:23] ehird_: avoid recompiling 500000000000 files for every source file, 04:24:04 [04:23] ehird_: and still keep to the semantics if they're careful 04:25:46 because #include is not that simple 04:25:56 nothing I said gives a simplistic view 04:25:59 I am aware of how include works 04:26:34 you could do that, but only on a very limited subset of files and directive locations 04:26:50 there's nothing in my proposal to restrict the semantics at all 04:27:56 I know that 04:28:07 /shrug 04:28:26 but I'd find it pretty hard to get a standards-compliant implementation that doesn't parse the #included file 04:28:33 of course you parse it 04:28:46 you just don't treat it as if it's been splooged into the file 04:28:58 an #include condom, say :P 04:29:07 my idea is admittedly uber-vague 04:29:26 err... parse is not what I meant 04:29:29 I meant full semantic analysis 04:29:41 and if you are suggesting that still be done, then I'm confused as to what you mean 04:29:48 exactly, you do analysis on it remembering it's an import, and taking this into account 04:29:59 as opposed to just replacing #include with that contents and dumbly processing the whole thing 04:30:12 you can't though 04:30:31 i disagree 04:30:33 it's just as illegal to do something in a header as somewhere else 04:30:40 so you have to do full semantic analysis 04:30:43 no shit 04:30:49 I've never once denied that :P 04:31:01 then I'm confused... 04:31:05 so am I :-( 04:31:09 my idea is probably bullshit 04:31:11 who cares about C anyway 04:31:36 too many people 04:31:56 coppro: says the C++ lover. 04:32:13 that wasn't lost on me 04:32:16 * coppro starts wondering if clang does preprocessing as it parses or not 04:33:01 still, I think the current model of c compilers as a bunch of modular stages, all doing their wonderful little job ... is shit 04:33:12 because god damn, all of them are so fucking slow 04:33:21 because they refuse to have some messy merging 04:34:11 I'm just confused on what exactly you'd like it to do. Obviously reducing the number of passes would help, but I can't think of how you could act different in code in a header 04:35:56 that idea was misguided 04:36:59 ok 04:40:48 yes, AFAICT, clang does do the proprocessing in the same pass as the rest of the compilation 04:40:58 -!- calamari has joined. 04:42:17 mmm... squid 04:42:30 ew 04:50:12 Is there an easy way, without checking system settings, to determine if I'm using 16-bit or 32-bit color? 04:50:21 My system says 32-bit but I don't believe it. 04:50:34 Use an operating system you trust. 05:14:54 * ehird_ considers subscribing to usenet 05:15:08 i'm getting too old to wait for torrents :p 05:20:32 Sgeo_: yes. Try displaying two colors that will render the same in 16-bit but differently in 32-bit 05:20:53 coppro: BYO20:20V 05:20:58 Where can I find such colors? 05:21:03 what? 05:21:17 coppro: Bring Your Own 20:20 Vision 05:21:30 Sgeo_: just try displaying a lot of 32-bit colors that vary by one bit and then inspect a screen capture 05:23:59 yeah, ok, i want to subscribe to usenet. 600-800KiB/s sure beats the hell out of ~30KiB/s. now where's my magical money tree. 05:24:24 *kiB 06:24:12 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 06:33:17 * coppro starts working on clang again 06:34:42 CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG! 06:35:03 coppro: poison the C++ end 06:35:23 together, comrade, we can eradicate it 06:51:22 A *good* application for text-to-speech: record from microphone to text while working (e.g. programming) or testing your UI, etc. 06:51:28 with timestamps 06:51:30 analyse later 06:51:44 for UI testing, every time you go "ugh" your UI sucks 06:51:59 for programming, you can jot down notes about the code without thinking or context switching 06:52:07 alas, text to speech isn't really good enough for this yet 06:52:08 afaik 06:52:12 hey fizzie, make it better. 06:53:28 er 06:53:30 speech-to-text 06:53:30 ofc 06:53:37 ehird_: That's ... actually, a pretty interesting idea ... 06:53:54 that's the highest praise you've ever given to an idea of mine :D 06:54:14 preferably you hook it up to a screen recorder to know wtf you're talking about ofc 06:54:41 so it comes out as "@24:03 this function is way too big, but I can't split it up without reworking the data dependencies on foo bar baz" 06:54:43 or similar 06:54:52 Or just build it into your editor or UI library 06:55:12 Tools->Convert voice to comments 06:55:21 / fuck this code is awe full 06:55:32 GregorR: but they're not suited to comments, since it's not about the code itsef 06:55:33 itself 06:55:48 plus, comments should generally be a bit more... polished... 06:55:54 Yes, that was what we call a "joke", i.e. the comment I provided :P 06:56:10 it's 6:56 AM, therefore all jokes are fruitless 06:56:17 i will plow through your nonseriousness with reckless abandon 07:02:38 * ehird_ invents the Gigantic Gob of Text organisation system 07:02:47 you have one file, call it ~/gob or something 07:02:59 in your editor, bind this to @ (or whatever you want, really): 07:03:08 @@ `date '+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M'` 07:03:08 (NEWLINE) 07:03:08 $1 07:03:09 (NEWLINE) 07:03:09 (NEWLINE) 07:03:19 where `` does the obvious, $1 sets where the cursor goes afterwards, and everything eles is literal 07:03:47 whenever you want to remember anything that your brain doesn't deserve permanent burdening with, open the file (your cursor will be placed at the start), hit it, type, press save. 07:04:01 UI: your favourite searching method 07:27:51 so 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:00:34 -!- ehird_ has quit. 08:02:17 -!- immibis has quit ("If you think nobody cares, try missing a few payments"). 08:30:27 -!- Pthing has joined. 08:31:26 -!- immibis has joined. 08:42:38 -!- immibis has quit (Remote closed the connection). 09:06:27 "Dammit, people! Aid my illegal activity!" <-- it isn't like I would actually use the networks. :P 09:07:16 oh and about promisc mode and such, iirc virtualbox puts the interface in that mode in some cases. Not for when you select NAT style network though 09:07:29 but quite often IME the NAT style doesn't work well 09:10:26 oh and another thing, I was actually joking about cracking WEP. I haven't tried that. I just noticed that the wlan activity was rather low according to kismet. And too low for WEP cracking (if I would decide to try it) 09:21:43 -!- oerjan has joined. 09:31:10 hi oerjan 09:33:29 hello 10:21:36 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 10:24:00 -!- FireFly has joined. 11:18:55 -!- Pthing has quit (Remote closed the connection). 11:19:27 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 11:22:49 -!- puzzlet has joined. 11:35:49 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 11:45:38 -!- M0ny has joined. 11:46:28 hi 12:15:51 -!- Warrigal has joined. 12:16:31 -!- CESSMASTER has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:16:31 -!- SimonRC has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:16:32 -!- Warrigal_ has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:17:08 -!- CESSMASTER has joined. 12:17:08 -!- SimonRC has joined. 12:26:39 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 13:03:55 -!- Pthing has joined. 14:27:45 -!- lifthrasiir has joined. 15:37:21 -!- oerjan has joined. 15:54:27 -!- jix has joined. 15:58:33 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 15:58:39 -!- pikhq has joined. 16:10:13 ais523: i summon thee 16:27:50 -!- Sgeo has joined. 17:24:27 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 17:29:21 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 17:29:24 -!- puzzlet has joined. 17:59:20 -!- oklokok has changed nick to oklopol. 18:06:31 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 18:37:45 -!- MigoMipo has quit (Nick collision from services.). 18:37:46 -!- MigoMipo_ has joined. 18:37:58 -!- MigoMipo_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 18:38:13 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 19:10:58 -!- puzzlet_ has joined. 19:11:17 -!- puzzlet has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:31:39 -!- jix has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 19:50:29 -!- puzzlet_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:50:36 -!- puzzlet has joined. 20:08:43 -!- zzo38 has joined. 20:19:17 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 20:23:52 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 20:26:08 Now I have weather reports and movie times, too. 20:27:37 In Soviet Russia, esoteric programming language invents YOU!!! That's a idea of a new esolang... 20:32:34 that sounds just awesome 20:46:43 In Soviet Russia, programs write you! 20:46:46 -!- Sgeo has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:47:10 it deserves an entry in the hypothetical esolangs section at least :P 20:47:16 In Soviet Russia, object verb SUBJECT! 20:48:06 ...hey i just got that joke 20:48:35 In Soviet Russia, subject verb OBJECT! 20:48:39 actually that's probably not the joke, but it would be rather funny to realize i've gotten it wrong all these years. 20:49:05 I think the point is to swap subject and object in some punny way 20:54:57 yes, but the way i've always gotten it is 20:55:03 "soviet russia is so backwards that ..." 20:55:20 but it could've been "in russian, the word order is backwards" 20:55:27 well 20:55:46 for the "soviet" part to be meaningful, the joke would have to be either the first one, or both 20:55:49 i guess 20:55:52 i dunno, shut up 20:56:58 In Soviet Russia, _ _ YOU!! 20:58:03 -!- Pthing has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:58:20 shut ups you 21:10:48 -!- puzzlet_ has joined. 21:20:07 -!- jix has joined. 21:20:39 -!- ehird has joined. 21:22:07 12:54:57 yes, but the way i've always gotten it is 21:22:07 12:55:03 "soviet russia is so backwards that ..." 21:22:07 12:55:20 but it could've been "in russian, the word order is backwards" 21:22:12 the original was 21:22:21 "in russia [at the time soviet], television watches YOU!" 21:22:30 which plays on (a) russian, (b) the soviet oppression 21:22:55 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 21:23:15 What a country! 21:23:28 so i have gotten it wrong, but just because i haven't heard the original, slightly less funny. 21:23:30 I wonder if one day, we will have an iraqi Yakov Smirnoff 21:25:08 In Iraq, كنت غزو الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية! 21:25:27 hmm that translated badly :D 21:29:22 ehird, how good is perl for working with binary formats? It seems regex will be a bit painful for that. 21:29:30 why do you want to use perl? 21:29:40 ehird, I don't, I'm just curious 21:29:50 I don't even have a specific project I'm planning 21:30:10 AnMaster: how good is Python for image processing? 21:30:21 ehird, there is pyimage or something iirc? 21:30:29 I don't know Perl 21:30:34 ehird, oh I thought you did 21:30:37 sorry then 21:30:40 i know some stuff. 21:30:46 and can hack out a program 21:30:52 AnMaster: but it has more than regex 21:31:13 ehird, well yeah, if it only had regex it would be quite an awesome esolang I bet ;P 21:31:23 somewhat like /// 21:32:01 (except with regex, not literal match only) 21:32:13 exists, iirc. 21:32:19 ehird, oh? 21:32:56 eh, http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/REGXY 21:33:21 mhm 21:33:23 interesting 21:33:30 quite a stub yes 21:33:41 The first program language I used with self-modifying code was probably GWBASIC (using the CHAIN MERGE command). 21:33:41 and C2 wiki eh? 21:33:43 that's old 21:33:57 zzo38 made REGXY i think 21:34:00 that's -ing retro 21:34:02 also, WikiWikiWeb is cool 21:34:08 and is still activ 21:34:09 e 21:34:11 ehird, yes but so retro 21:34:17 ehird, doesn't matter, still retro 21:34:23 you don't know what retro means. 21:34:44 ehird, using a C64 is retro? no? 21:34:48 yes 21:35:05 something isn't retro just because it's old; it has to be dead 21:35:06 usually retro is old in a good sense 21:35:12 ehird, yet I know people who still use it 21:35:17 AnMaster: yes 21:35:19 listen 21:35:21 at least to some extent 21:35:29 C64 is retro because it died 21:35:34 and continued only in the demoscene 21:35:37 oklopol, well yes. it has an element of nostalgia in it 21:35:39 which is because of the retroness 21:35:48 WikiWikiWeb, however, is continuous 21:35:53 it never died and it's still active 21:35:55 so it can't be retro 21:36:00 ehird, so you are saying wikiwikiweb can never be retro? 21:36:10 AnMaster: if people stop using it, it can be 21:36:24 ehird, so they have to stop using it and then start using it again 21:36:25 ? 21:36:31 ehird, in that case gopher isn't retro 21:36:34 AnMaster: no 21:36:49 if a bunch of commercial game producers started producing for the C64 again 21:36:53 well first of all it would be really weird 21:36:58 but then the C64 would stop being retro 21:37:02 because it'd be current again 21:37:06 ehird, Duke Nukem C64 Edition! 21:37:10 you need it to be small/not-mainstream 21:37:13 to be retro 21:37:21 hrrm 21:37:32 ehird, I wouldn't call wikiwikiweb mainstream any more 21:37:37 I mean 21:37:40 the revival has to be non-mainstream 21:37:42 -!- ais523 has joined. 21:37:45 also, non-mainstream in the *context* of it 21:37:53 as in, what it originally was, counts as mainstream 21:37:57 hi ais523 21:37:57 gopher is retro because only a few diehards (of course "die" can't mean totally 100% dead), and people who left it and then got nostalgiac 21:37:58 use it 21:38:09 the former are discounted due to being an extreme minority, and everything has those 21:38:16 hi 21:38:19 the latter are a small, non-mainstream-compared-to-previous-gopher-glory group 21:38:23 therefore gopher is retro 21:38:26 sorry if I type like a zombie, I've just woken up from sleeping for 21 hours in a row 21:38:30 ais523: me and AnMaster are arguing about what counts as retro 21:38:32 also, wow 21:38:35 21 hours? 21:38:37 the former are discounted due to being an extreme minority, and everything has those <-- *imagines such minorities for odd things* 21:39:49 ehird: yes, but I'd been awake for quite a long time before then 21:39:53 maybe about 36 hours 21:40:10 ais523: after ~40 hours sleepdep I usually get about 12 hours sleep 21:40:25 ehird: same here, but it was longer today for some reason 21:40:27 I slept at about 8:30 yesterday and woke up at ~18:00 21:40:34 fucked up sleep schedules are awesome 21:42:22 I avoid sleepdep 21:42:31 since sleep is a dep for being awake for me ;P 21:42:41 I try to, but sometimes I just love being awake too much 21:44:19 -!- puzzlet has joined. 21:44:20 Now I have weather reports and movie times on gopher too, it isn't completely dead. And many people are old too, but they aren't necessarily dead either. 21:44:38 -!- puzzlet_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 21:44:40 Both of those clauses were addressed in what I said. 21:44:53 Most things aren't completely dead 21:45:04 Most buried people aren't completely dead 21:45:10 fucked up sleep schedules are awesome <-- what about school? 21:45:24 who cares about school when you can sleep weirdly 21:45:26 eh 21:45:27 eh 21:45:29 eh?! 21:45:34 eh?!?!? 21:45:50 EH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! 21:45:57 this is Fibonacci? 21:46:04 too lazy to count 21:46:07 you broke it! 21:46:13 Also, ... 21:46:21 AnMaster: Me, NMI. You, Fibonacci. 21:46:24 Geek card, plz. 21:46:46 ehird, well, I thought it was. Just too lazy to count how long " EH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!" was 21:46:54 0, 0, 2, 5 21:47:00 ehird, I know that 21:47:00 You thought that was fibonacci? 21:47:01 but 21:47:02 as I said 21:47:04 It's very obviously not 21:47:20 hm. yes 21:47:23 eh__ 21:47:24 eh__ 21:47:29 eh!! 21:47:30 see? 21:47:33 count there 21:47:35 what 21:47:46 ehird, count the number of exclamation marks 21:47:52 Umm, two 21:47:52 it is fibonacci 21:48:03 ehird, yep 21:48:08 ehird, and zero on the two above 21:48:09 What the fuck are you talking about? 21:48:12 eh 21:48:12 eh 21:48:12 eh?! 21:48:12 eh?!?!? 21:48:17 0, 0, 2, 5 21:48:18 X_X 21:48:26 You are being incomprehensible. 21:48:28 AnMaster: you can have a fucked up sleep schedule with school, i had about 3 hours a night when i was in high school, at random points during the day. 21:48:43 oklopol: do Uberman's :) 21:48:46 ehird, it is clearly encoded 21:49:02 ehird, it MUST be fibonacci + some crypto 21:49:13 counting !'s and adding one gets you to 1 1 2 3 9 21:49:21 which is... close 21:49:27 oklopol, yep, so not quite that 21:49:28 but 21:49:35 oklopol, what about a OTP? 21:49:46 there's the EH, i guess you could somehow explain how that's a -4. 21:49:58 :D 21:50:06 ehird: tried once, will try another time if i get an uberbuddy. 21:50:18 like, 0,1,-1,-3 21:50:29 that OTP with the addition operator would work 21:50:39 for the first 4 lines 21:50:52 clearly it can be extended with another value for the next 21:50:59 now to figure out the pattern in it 21:51:03 or wait 21:51:09 it is fib offset by one 21:51:14 so eh is 1 21:51:17 the 0 is missing 21:51:25 any sequence is any sequence OTP'd 21:51:32 (0),1,1,2,(3),5 <-- hm? 21:51:34 well 21:51:37 3 is missing too 21:51:46 I guess random fluke from zzo38 21:52:02 oklopol, that's my point 21:52:10 i guess it may have been 21:52:23 oklopol, at least, if you OTP it. 21:52:50 basically, AnMaster is trying to cover his ass for thinking something totally different is fibonacci. 21:53:03 ehird, no. But I forgot the 3 was there. 21:53:06 ehird: i actually had an uberbuddy planned, but he went to the army :\ 21:53:10 so I did think it was eh = 1 21:53:16 oklopol: let IRC be your uberbuddy 21:53:21 and then add one for each ! or ? 21:53:40 ehird: people who don't cover their asses are gay 21:54:06 oklopol: wut 21:54:09 oh AnMaster. 21:54:09 nm 21:54:14 well yes 21:54:16 ehird, ? 21:54:17 i was defending him 21:54:40 ehird, oh you weren't talking _to_ me 21:55:15 oklopol: anyway i wanna try uberman's, you should try and convince me to. 21:55:24 -!- GregorR has quit ("Leaving"). 21:55:34 although i'm a bit worried about, like, fucking up my development :D 21:55:49 http://suckless.org/common/dynamic_window_management <-- what exactly are they suggesting here in practise 21:55:56 I mean... it sounds all nice and so 21:56:11 Uhh, automatic window management. 21:56:11 but what is it actually 21:56:21 Maybe you could try actually reading it 21:56:29 ehird, I did 21:56:33 -!- GregorR has joined. 21:56:35 but there are like, no examples 21:56:43 yes there are 21:56:45 dwm, wmii 21:56:52 most tiling window managers in general 21:56:55 ehird, as in, pratical examples with screenshots 21:56:57 or such 21:56:57 (although dwm isn't solely tiling) 21:57:02 AnMaster: It's about interaction, not the look 21:57:07 The screenshot would look like any other WM 21:57:08 ehird, video then 21:57:12 >_< 21:57:18 -!- GregorR has quit (Remote closed the connection). 21:57:20 Have I mentioned recently that you're stupid? 21:59:29 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 21:59:32 -!- M0ny has quit. 22:02:18 -!- sebbu has joined. 22:02:34 -!- MigoMipo has quit ("QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server"). 22:08:14 http://www.greenarraychips.com/ 22:08:17 Green Arrays now have a site 22:08:28 Exciting! 22:08:41 -!- GregorR has joined. 22:09:17 (GregorR: http://www.media.mit.edu/wearables/lizzy/lizzy/pe-hat.html you wrote this in another life, didn't you?) 22:09:24 ((it's a screen)) 22:11:07 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 22:15:30 night 22:16:44 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 22:20:49 http://86.3.152.152:99/ 22:23:02 86315215299 = 3"S/#@"*+'U9'@74'@*+**+*** 22:26:48 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 22:28:12 Deewiant: that seems awfully verbose 22:28:19 hmm 22:28:37 Deewiant: wouldn't "base- text" be shorter 22:28:53 *base-94 22:28:55 hmm 22:28:57 minus " 22:28:59 base-93 22:29:25 so ", 6 chars, ", converter 22:29:49 so if the converter is less than 18 bytes... 22:29:56 y'wot? 22:30:08 Deewiant: eh? 22:30:21 I very much doubt a parser will be that short :-P 22:30:27 eh 22:30:44 Anyway, there's also "ùï @"*+'U9'@f'ø+**+** for you non-ASCII folks 22:30:45 Deewiant: it's just repeated foo = (foo*93)+digits[nextchar] 22:30:54 digits is just a trivial offset 22:30:59 since we're talking continuous ascii chars 22:35:25 ehird: I would never restrict myself to one hat. 22:35:27 That's lamesauce. 22:35:34 GregorR: Duh, just buy multiple screens. 22:35:40 GregorR: Anyway, you restrict yourself to one pair of glasses, no? 22:36:09 I don't wear glasses. 22:36:10 So, no? 22:36:22 GregorR: I guess I hallucinated that video about that ipod thing 22:36:29 IPOD THING?!?!? 22:36:30 FUCK YOU 22:36:50 If you mean my completely-non-ipod-related portable video screen, then yes, that's only one pair of glasses. 22:36:54 GregorR: It was a screen designed for the iPod, wasn't it? 22:36:54 But I'm a HAT GUY, not a GLASSES GUY. 22:37:14 * ehird recursively googles 22:37:15 "Myvu Crystal, video eyewear for iPod" 22:37:16 ehird: Idonno whether it was designed for the iPod or adapted to the iPod, they have an iPod edition and a universal (non-iPod) edition. 22:37:30 first sentence in the google result /shrug 22:37:36 How is that meaningful? 22:37:44 It means that's what they call it? 22:37:48 Some douchebag went COOL I CAN USE THIS WITH MY IPOD SO ITS AN IPOD SCREEN 22:37:57 Yes, that douchebag would be their marketing division 22:38:16 Their /douchebag/ marketing division. 22:38:24 That is redundant. 22:38:31 True. 22:57:35 http://agentmlovestacos.tumblr.com/post/169641243/this-is-brilliant-2-minutes-of-magic-via 22:57:36 What 22:57:37 The 22:57:38 FUCK. 23:01:19 HAI EHIRD LET'S TALK ABOUT MY HATS 23:01:24 CUZ I JUST PUT A BUNCH OF NEW PICS UP 23:01:28 HATS HATS HATS HATS 23:01:35 I'm sorry, my brain has turned off because of my last link 23:01:41 I just what. 23:04:14 That was. 23:04:15 Uh. 23:04:18 That. 23:04:24 I ... question mark. 23:04:24 Yeah. 23:07:45 ehird: Shortest I can come up with is 0"123456"1>\:#\ #+ #* #+ #5 #* #a #9_$ ... and that's assuming base 95, which you can't do directly since there are holes in the set of printable ASCII 23:08:03 Deewiant: that 123456 isn't needed, is it? 23:08:05 oh 23:08:07 that's your test data 23:08:09 It's your 6 chars 23:08:24 Deewiant: surely that #fest can be shortened 23:08:36 I can't think of a way how 23:09:14 Oh wait, strings, hmm. Sec 23:09:41 /join the #fest ivities! 23:10:31 Nope, 0"123456"1>\:#$ #k #7"\+*+3*a9"7# k# $#_$ is a char longer 23:10:39 (And untested, not sure if that works) 23:11:42 Actually, that definitely doesn't work, but this might: 0"123456"1>\:#\"#\+*+3*a9"# 7# k# $#_$ 23:11:57 In any case, it's longer than 3"S/#@"*+'U9'@74'@*+**+*** :-P 23:12:50 Those are about as long as the hex-only version of 86315215299: 33a8*+7f8f4+**+d589548d**+***+*** 23:16:35 Does befunge have exponentiation? I guess not 23:17:09 Nope 23:17:31 Some fingerprints do, though 23:24:09 So, trial round 1 of Haskell Joust. Give me an expression of type (X -> Bool) where `newtype X = X (X -> Bool)`. The idea is that (f (X f)) is True, while (f anythingElse) is False; you can, of course, try to detect your opponent's interrogation techniques and fool them. 23:25:52 Of course, you will be given (f (X otherOpponent)) for every other opponent and also (f (X f)). 23:25:56 Scoring should be obvious. 23:35:17 [[It was largely inspired by xmonad and dwm. Both are fine products but suffer from things like: crazy-unportable-language-syndrome, silly defaults, asymmetrical window layout, "how hard can it be?" and good old NIH. 23:35:17 Nevertheless dwm was a phenomenal resource and many good ideas and code was borrowed from it. On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings and xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C.]] 23:35:24 Crazy unportable language system. 23:35:34 *syndrome 23:35:34 If faced with a crazy unportable language 23:35:40 Why not write it in the crazy unportable language C 23:35:50 Silly wabbits and their crazy unportable Haskells 23:36:12 >:| 23:36:30 -!- FireFly has quit ("Later"). 23:36:32 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote closed the connection).