< 1249430416 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand s/// < 1249430424 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, i practically speak (*$%|*(#$&*/#*($&\/\#(*$ as my native language < 1249430508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: Oh so witty < 1249430512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is line noise amirite < 1249430532 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the defintion of unix, right? "40 defintions of regexp living under one roof" < 1249430564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never understood why there wasn't a standard regex toolset for unix < 1249430574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the obvious thing to do from the start < 1249430583 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same reason we have more than one programming language in the world and more than one use of symbols in computers in general < 1249430593 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people like to make their own thing < 1249430615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: but Ken Thompson did it! < 1249430625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix philosophy! they actually used it those days < 1249430627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why not for regexp? < 1249430653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm very much in favour of the operating system providing a whole lot though < 1249430674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Arguably bloat, but I don't separate the operating system and the programs on top, so.) < 1249430682 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the distinction between OS and software is something we should get beyond anyway < 1249430691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1249430697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my OS is object-based < 1249430705 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fight with plan9 people about this a lot, because i think they dont even understand their own os or its concepts really < 1249430714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :intelligent objects with methods to manipulate and transform them, plus extra methods that make a visualisation of that object and provide a UI to manipulate it < 1249430727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be hard-pressed to sell any "software" for it < 1249430738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Adobe bitmap image editing components 7.0!" < 1249430834 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how do your provide visualization and UI for objects in a 'universal' way? how do you avoid having specific software tools to work with specific types of objects? < 1249430873 0 :oklopil!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not so much avoid as discourage < 1249430901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: because you don't give a tool object the object to work on < 1249430906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ask the object for an interface < 1249430909 0 :jix!n=jix@p5B26228D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1249430918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the emphasis is very much on communicating with smart objects < 1249430933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tools don't contain their behaviour, really < 1249430939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interface just asks the object directly < 1249430942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you add stuff to the object < 1249430944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, you CAN do a tool < 1249430946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'd be awkward < 1249430947 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well, in that case the mapping simply places the traditional software/UI component inside the object, sure < 1249430952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and be really hard to start etc < 1249430961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: well, there are extensible interfaces ofc < 1249430983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at the end of it, you're clicking something that modifies an object it's showing, yes. < 1249430989 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is paradigm for 'shifting' data as content between different interfaces? < 1249430996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the workflow differs < 1249431003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: well, when you ask the object for an interface < 1249431007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gives you an appropriate interface object < 1249431012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that interface obviously contains the object < 1249431013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1249431017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just grab the object from the interface < 1249431020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ask it for another interface < 1249431024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-destructive updates < 1249431027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you flip an image in a UI < 1249431028 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it attach to and make use of interface components/tools located in other objects? < 1249431029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't change the image < 1249431032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just updates the image in the interface < 1249431036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so e.h. < 1249431038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*e.g. < 1249431039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can copy that < 1249431042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and manipulate that flipped image < 1249431042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR < 1249431045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link the two images together < 1249431049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and manipulate the image as you work < 1249431049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1249431061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have an inverted image of another interface's image < 1249431063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scale the image in the latter < 1249431067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it updates the inverted image < 1249431070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: sure < 1249431153 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, im thinking about how to translate various tasks from the traditional model to this model < 1249431180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really have specific things fleshed out < 1249431186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the general model seems sound < 1249431198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to be careful about where you place your object in the abstraction layer tho < 1249431205 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so - old model - i have (your favorite!) a text file - i can bring the data from that text file into a 'word processor' app to do various font/formatting stuff, or i can bring that text data into my 'rpg game creator' environment to use as a message on the wall the player can read < 1249431207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. (webPage browser) isn't acceptable < 1249431212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you have cookies and the like < 1249431229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: ok, lemme give that a shot < 1249431233 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, in the new model - the base object of the content can provide me a 'word processor like interface' by making use of that module, right? < 1249431257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You bring up your text object, which brings up the default interface, which has the ability to switch to other interfaces. < 1249431266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First you might convert it to rich text, say. < 1249431280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You select your desired interface, and do font/formatting stuff like usual. < 1249431285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have e.g. < 1249431294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlainText>>awesomeWordProcessorInterface < 1249431299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the source being like < 1249431314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :self interfaceUsing: [ AwesomeWordProcessor new with: self ] < 1249431325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you have that rich text < 1249431332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you extract the object from it < 1249431335 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if i want to 'connect' the interface of the basically textual object to the object that is game/game-dev like, the text object 'imports a component' from the game/dev object to allow the interfaces to interact? (typed this while reading your explanation btw) < 1249431340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, in your RPG creator < 1249431351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you plug in that object in to the "message on wall" fied < 1249431353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*field < 1249431360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you plugged it in directly from the word processor without copying < 1249431363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can edit in the word processor < 1249431366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it edits in the rpg < 1249431367 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, yeah, i think i see how it can be modelled and work within the context youve described < 1249431369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you copy it like usual < 1249431372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's a snapshot in time < 1249431393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: generally there's not too much separate interface interaction, since that just leads to "app"-specific hell < 1249431400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you generally operate directly with the objects < 1249431405 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, im trying to 'think my way out' of the paradigm < 1249431415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, you could absolutely stick two interfaces together and tell them to talk < 1249431417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they know the other < 1249431429 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking as a hypothetical user working with the hypoethetically existent system and trying to visualize what is im doing < 1249431443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm speaking in vague things like extracting the object because i haven't got on to the actual ui work < 1249431448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i don't know how exactly you'd go about that < 1249431527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: one thing I'm totally unsure on is how to go about versioning every change of everything < 1249431531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to eat up disk < 1249431537 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you are pursuing a kind of 'vision of purity' i would say as your design work continues you should make sure to create some imaginary user interfaces as you go < 1249431539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i hate not being able to undo < 1249431584 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well, cant you still have the fundamentals of persistence but still be smart about 'delayed writes' to the actual disk? < 1249431594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's handled in the persistence layer < 1249431599 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1249431602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that if you track every single atomic change to every single object < 1249431609 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, just so much data? < 1249431609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your 2TB disk fills up uncannily quickly < 1249431612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1249431626 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, i dont think it does if you use deduplication down in that persistence layer probably < 1249431629 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need real world testing < 1249431633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1249431638 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think youd be surprised how much deduplicative storage can gain you in that regard < 1249431647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that is; I'll look it up < 1249431666 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duplicate data blocks get stored as a pointer reference to the existing data block, not as a new redundant copy < 1249431668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: basically diff. < 1249431672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what hardlink backups do < 1249431683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any time you see an unchanged file, make it a hardlink instead < 1249431693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except more fine-grained < 1249431699 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, its that kind of thing, but dedup data storage yeah is block level < 1249431709 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for your system, you want to do something like 'rabin fingerprinting' i think < 1249431730 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is all your low level technical stuff to make your persistence concepts not actually kill your real world disks < 1249431741 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you correctly saw the need to anticipate < 1249431793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah thankfully i can skimp on that at first < 1249431799 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think you dont actually need to worry too much is what im saying < 1249431803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to my test objects being measured in kilobytes of text :P < 1249431807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: yeah < 1249431812 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your idea of total persistence and versioning of everything - i think its actually real world practical < 1249431814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely though something like an HD video editor will want to throw away data a lot < 1249431816 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things from Napoli are called Neopolitan (in English). I feel they should be called Napoleon. Discuss. < 1249431827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i mean in cases like that < 1249431831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually being able to use it trumps usability < 1249431834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know what i mean < 1249431839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: lawl < 1249431871 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yeah it seems like being able to say 'ok dont version/make persistent this particular 5 minute video im watching on a porn site' is probably something you want to allow < 1249431879 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1249431885 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you said total freedom for the user is a base design principle < 1249431891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it is < 1249431892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though < 1249431897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more a gnome man than kde < 1249431909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I definitely don't think edgecases need to be accounted for in the interface < 1249431912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to manually telling the object something < 1249431925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you can do anything, it just might not be pretty < 1249431969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's just a standard UI compromise < 1249431973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could always make a new one for a new purpose < 1249431977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and transition your objects over < 1249431980 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249432031 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :away for a bit now, thanks for explaining some more of the concepts to me < 1249432060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :np :) < 1249432063 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw is there any name for this other than 'ehird's crazy persistent/versioned/rich object os' ? < 1249432082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: hehehe where do i start < 1249432089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :naming is the hardest part of any project < 1249432093 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no doubt < 1249432099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i totally suck at it < 1249432116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's call it foop or zoop or something for the sake of it < 1249432123 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, just to give it a conventional label < 1249432142 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet if you google though someone has already stolen the foop/zoop namespace for software projects < 1249432151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant temporarily < 1249432153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's taken < 1249432192 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zfoop? fzoop? zoopf? foopz? < 1249432234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunny < 1249432237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's call it bunny. < 1249432239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or kitten. < 1249432241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1249432245 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vote for kitten < 1249432255 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since im already rather involved with a bunny-associated os (insert glenda.jpg) < 1249432308 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont have anything computer related filed though under 'kitten' or kittens mentally < 1249432320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing though < 1249432325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not using lolcats as a splash screen. < 1249432345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(vacuously true in a way; I'm not using any splash screen because in 1-2 seconds after it gets control it's in the state you left it in0 < 1249432345 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, that means i dont have to commit physical violence if i ever meet you in person : < 1249432349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d/0$/)/ < 1249432363 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1249432722 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Things from Napoli are called Neopolitan (in English). I feel they should be called Napoleon. Discuss. < 1249432753 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first we need to move Napoli to Corsica. which might be better than next to Vesuvius, anyhow. < 1249433235 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1249433364 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249434032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I concur. I want Napoleon ice cream. < 1249434101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shaped like Napoleon! < 1249434104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actual size) < 1249434132 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1249434176 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1249434319 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: still not that big >_> < 1249434348 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, ego burn to the grave, holmes < 1249434364 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats Gracenotes for perpetuating the myth -----### < 1249434380 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey. his height was below average < 1249434424 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people perpetuate myths all the time, don't they? For example, that any Eskimo language has 50 words for snow or something? < 1249434444 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myths that are an essential part of our cultural discourse < 1249434454 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't knock the myth. or napolean ice cream. < 1249434461 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*o < 1249434507 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO WASHINGTON NEVER TOLD A LIE < 1249434583 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"British propaganda depicted Napoleon as much smaller than average height and this image persists. Confusion about his height also results from the difference between the French pouce and British inch.2.71 and 2.54 cm respectively; he was 1.7 metres (5 ft 7 in) tall, average height for the period." < 1249434609 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from infallopedia. < 1249434621 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cultural discourse < 1249434645 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dayum they used some crazy units back then. clearly the metric system is superior! < 1249435150 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435150 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435150 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435150 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435150 0 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1249435151 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435151 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435151 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435151 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435152 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435152 0 :evenant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435152 0 :olegfink!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435152 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435152 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435152 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435152 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435152 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249435152 0 :ski__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision < 1249435152 0 :ski__!n=md9slj@remote3.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :jix!n=jix@p5B26228D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-22-245.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@65.215.113.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.244.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@host86-159-104-109.range86-159.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :evenant!n=myndzi@70-58-88-38.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :olegfink!n=olegfink@rain.ifmo.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :Dewio!n=dewi@203-214-111-155.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :Robdgreat!i=rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :oklopil!n=oklopol@a91-153-125-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :mycroftiv!n=drabgah@h69-128-47-245.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :Xiin!n=X@cpc3-brig15-2-0-cust781.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :comex!i=comex@c-98-210-198-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :Ilari!n=user@a88-113-39-59.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :randomity!i=mu@spoon.netsoc.tcd.ie JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :ineiros!n=ineiros@james.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :mtve!n=mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-116-39.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@130.233.249.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :Leonidas!n=Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@81.49.247.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435152 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1249435153 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slipping away like that < 1249435179 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"RELATED: I'VE INVENTED THE WORST MIXED DRINK EVER." >_< < 1249435276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: actually. < 1249435282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used metric all my life. < 1249435292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently discovered the joys of the inch. (Shut up that is not an innuendo) < 1249435307 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW it is. < 1249435401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: kph vs m/s? < 1249435406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methinks Randall made an ERROR! < 1249435418 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, impossible! < 1249435419 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whar!! < 1249435423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249435425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAVE IT NOW < 1249435428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEFORE HE FIXES IT < 1249435431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE IS *EVERYWHERE* < 1249435450 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 5 km/h in m/s < 1249435451 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several xkcd sockpuppets in this channel currently < 1249435458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, ehird < 1249435467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who momentarily patched one of the comics < 1249435470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to fuck with everyone < 1249435472 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats HackEgo for absence -----### < 1249435482 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXATRY AS PRANNED < 1249435504 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 km/h = 1.38888889 meters / second < 1249435524 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little off < 1249435528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1249435529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m = meters < 1249435530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not miles :D < 1249435542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1249435545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 meters a second? < 1249435556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also not km < 1249435557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kph < 1249435562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 25 kph in meters/second < 1249435564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 5 kph in meters/second < 1249435604 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell 7 * 3.6 < 1249435607 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25.2 < 1249435633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1249435636 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kph = km/hour, colloquially < 1249435637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who can run 7 meters a second? < 1249435638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1249435644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not kilometers? < 1249435645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1249435649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't make sense as conversion < 1249435649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1249435656 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :km = kilometer < 1249435666 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you being dense? < 1249435707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1249435708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1249435715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also, stfu < 1249435745 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See The Fine Understatement < 1249435805 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION learns more about the nasal infix < 1249435820 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly nothing to do with piercing. < 1249435846 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meow < 1249436505 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1249437061 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kilomiles :) < 1249437108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :D < 1249437224 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1249437228 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who told you about the nasal infix? < 1249437232 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone on isharia linked to that < 1249437234 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just today < 1249438037 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249438747 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249439146 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-159-108-150.range86-159.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249439148 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249439487 0 :augur_!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249439487 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249439768 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249440141 0 :meanburrito920_!n=john@76-217-6-100.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249440550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1249440893 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1249440981 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-159-108-150.range86-159.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249443482 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249443527 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249444419 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1249444598 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249445069 0 :pikhq__!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249445081 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249445463 0 :pikhq__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1249445504 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1249445523 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249445645 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1249445678 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : who told you about the nasal infix? < 1249445690 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia's Did You Know section < 1249445730 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur_: ^ < 1249445753 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1249445755 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains it! < 1249445757 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1249445914 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1249446007 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249446027 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249446668 0 :Halph!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249446719 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249446723 0 :Halph!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :coppro < 1249451214 0 :meanburrito920_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1249451587 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1249452878 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1249452894 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-13.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1249453599 0 :quickerfiya!n=exacto@ool-457f92c2.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249455601 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-9-233.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249455651 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249457013 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1249457074 0 :MigoMipo!n=chatzill@84-217-9-233.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249458405 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1249458461 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249459199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1249459200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1249459678 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1249459846 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1249459942 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. I noticed some behavior in ChatZilla I didn't like. I opened the source jar and modified the JS file with the behavior. I restarted. Now I am content. THAT IS THE POWER OF CHATZILLA (behold) < 1249459975 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1249460017 0 :quickerfiya!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1249460430 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"The only thing I know is that I know nothing" < 1249460788 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249462390 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249463967 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1249464517 0 :augur_!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249464517 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249465405 0 :oklopil!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err what is the power of chatzille, that it's open source? < 1249465605 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-095-208-142-060.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1249465640 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c249DBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1249466116 0 :oklopil!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: who can run 7 meters a second? <<< i can < 1249467472 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1249468726 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249469220 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249470487 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Apoyaturas < 1249471491 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c249DBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1249471948 0 :Apoyaturas!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Gracenotes < 1249472404 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249472494 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249475711 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249475967 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249477141 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249478175 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.244.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249478186 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1249478188 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eso people < 1249478202 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to make the taskbar reappear on windows 7? < 1249478211 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just relaunching Explorer doesn't seem to work < 1249478222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Restart. < 1249478259 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was my last resort < 1249478263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:12:22 so. I noticed some behavior in ChatZilla I didn't like. I opened the source jar and modified the JS file with the behavior. I restarted. Now I am content. THAT IS THE POWER OF CHATZILLA (behold) < 1249478264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp machine bitch < 1249478266 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I wondered if there was a simpler way < 1249478524 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1249478538 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, I'm only allowed to be on the computer for an hour. My dad said he's going to ask my "grandmother" how long I was on the computer < 1249478539 0 :jix!n=jix@188-193-95-175-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1249478684 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-22-245.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1249478770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"grandmother" < 1249479172 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1249479229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just wondering what else can get in thru code reviews. you guys... ah, better not to < 1249479229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say anything. such a nice application and now this. there should be more buzz about < 1249479229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it to make less people using chromium, such a insecure bullshit, where everybody can < 1249479229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :commit whatever. today it's creepy face, tomorrow it will be malicious code, nice work." < 1249479624 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249479678 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, the problem is that there are minors playing this game and if that type of chat is allowed, maybe only age 18 and over should be allowed." < 1249479686 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.epicmafia.com/forum/thread/1000 < 1249479692 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Might need to login to read) < 1249480238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firstly, who the fuck are these imaginary minors who can't stand "filth"? < 1249480245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Secondly, what has this got to do with #esoteric? < 1249480274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1249480346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: oh boy "How do you do that? Charge $2 a month payable by credit/debit card." < 1249480350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION claps < 1249480356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lose. < 1249480360 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :belly bum bottom balls < 1249480366 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boobies < 1249480374 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you corrupted yet < 1249480386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cunting fuckshit! That doesn't actually make any sense but it sounds fun. < 1249480398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Cunt isn't a verb, and fuck isn't an adjective.) < 1249480444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: But yes, I'm tragically corrupted due to the evils of the interwebs. < 1249480451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1249480655 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249480905 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION only swore once on EpicMafia, and that was because my scumbuddies gave me a code to use to let them know the role of the person we killed < 1249480915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good for you. < 1249482798 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249482829 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249483513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/05/090531-crapgadgets-01.jpg < 1249483524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ear of a cat usbmomory < 1249485201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As far as Apple is concerned, the Black Hat 2009 hackers conference didn't end soon enough. Having promptly patched the iPhone vulnerability, Cupertino is facing another security hole, this time in its keyboards. A hacker going by the pseudonym of K. Chen has come up with a way, using HIDFirmwareUpdaterTool, to inject malicious code into the keyboard's firmware." < 1249485207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009: The age of keyboard viruses. < 1249486558 0 :Hiato!n=fdulu@dsl-245-20-36.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1249486593 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1249486608 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-125-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1249486809 0 :Hiato!n=fdulu@dsl-245-20-36.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1249486913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oklofok < 1249486984 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckshit doesn't require fuck to be an adjective though < 1249487048 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hi < 1249487130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: does though! < 1249487420 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249487631 0 :oklopil!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249487688 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it requires it not to be an adjective < 1249487992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: no < 1249487995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"quickshit" < 1249488390 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"underflow" < 1249488959 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=user@79.174.35.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249489156 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm indeed. still, a noun is what you'd normally have there, like you know "cockshit". < 1249489406 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat65.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1249489409 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1249489444 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:^):^ < 1249489445 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1249489457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: cockshit doesn't make sense though < 1249489460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's a neologism < 1249489466 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if that's the smallest infinite loop < 1249489467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi impomatic, we're talking about the semantics of curses < 1249489471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, yes. < 1249489524 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... < 1249489615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: it's trivial to prove < 1249489632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way to branch is via ^ < 1249489640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we need, at the minimum, ()^ < 1249489647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, what goes inside? < 1249489649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an infinite loop < 1249489658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which we know needs a ^ < 1249489662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(()^)^ < 1249489665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what goes inside? < 1249489669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we see that this reduces to, infinitely, < 1249489671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:^):^ < 1249489746 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1249489824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::^) < 1249490064 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((0)(1))(~^:S~:S:*a~:*a*~:^):^ < 1249490065 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :101100111100001111111100000000111111111111111100000000000000001111111111111111111111111111111100000000000000000000000000000000111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 ...too much output! < 1249490158 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-159-108-150.range86-159.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249490167 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((.)(1))(~^:S~:Sa~:*a*~:^):^ < 1249490167 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.11.1111.11111111.1111111111111111.11111111111111111111111111111111.1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111.11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111.1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 ...too much output! < 1249490188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having fun with the un-est of Lambdas? < 1249490376 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Underload, not Unlambda. :P < 1249490441 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hush. < 1249490600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've noticed that as I copy data/install programs on my Laptop, the weight of the Laptop increases." < 1249490609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all the bits! < 1249490742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[This is a rare error when the overwriting mechanism of the memory banks lead to an overflow of data because it cannot add on and thus super-stack, increasing the weight significantly. While normal weight/file ratio is approximately 0.02 oz/GB, in rare cases such as these, it can go as high as somewhere around 6 oz/GB. < 1249490743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One solution is going to the system32 folder (C:\WINDOWS\system32) and deleting certain unnecessary files, but too much tampering may cause permanent changes to your computer.]] < 1249490958 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1249491407 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1249491537 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-159-108-150.range86-159.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249491992 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1249492098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (*)(~:S( / )S:*~:^):^ < 1249492099 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* / ** / **** / ******** / **************** / ******************************** / **************************************************************** / ******************************************************************************************************************************** / ********************************************* ...too much output! < 1249492108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MizardX: I golf you! < 1249492216 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1249492260 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't get much shorter than that. < 1249492287 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The exception being the whitespace. < 1249492649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MizardX: No whitespace in mine. < 1249492652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's part of the output. < 1249492682 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (1)(~:S(.)S:*~:^):^ < 1249492683 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.11.1111.11111111.1111111111111111.11111111111111111111111111111111.1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111.11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111.1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 ...too much output! < 1249492694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but that's not the same prorgam. < 1249492950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raptorial < 1249492950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjective < 1249492950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Like or resembling a raptor. < 1249493000 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sees proof that the Python documentation people aren't perfect < 1249493096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[But Ninjawords for iPhone suffers one humiliating flaw: it omits all the words deemed “objectionable” by Apple’s App Store reviewers, despite the fact that Ninjawords carries a 17+ rating. < 1249493096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple censored an English dictionary.]] < 1249493099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus fucking christ. < 1249493105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to throw my iPhone out of the window. < 1249493155 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do not put the baby in the Dinosaur Comics". Opinions? < 1249493210 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1249493215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Needs more funny. < 1249493221 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1249493337 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-159-108-150.range86-159.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249493468 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@c249DBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1249493468 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249493938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (*)(~:S(*)*( / )S~:^):^ < 1249493938 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* / ** / *** / **** / ***** / ****** / ******* / ******** / ********* / ********** / *********** / ************ / ************* / ************** / *************** / **************** / ***************** / ****************** / ******************* / ******************** / ********************* / ********************** / ***** ...too much output! < 1249493959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1249493964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hacks up a binary counter < 1249493986 0 :Judofyr_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Judofyr < 1249494000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrj < 1249494001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1249494117 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249494406 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1249494537 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-159-108-150.range86-159.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249495179 0 :jix!n=jix@188-193-95-175-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1249495242 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249496010 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@host86-155-78-126.range86-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249496211 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1249496218 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Asztal < 1249496503 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@129.33.192.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249496519 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The prgmr system I'm on went kablooie last night and it hasn't been fixed yet. < 1249496522 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To this I say WHOOT. < 1249496531 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :codu.org is being hosted on my home system right now :P < 1249496535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1249496545 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@host86-160-121-67.range86-160.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249496564 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Well, I guess it's a good thing codu.org is not absurdly popular? ;P < 1249496572 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lonelydino.com is gettin' there. < 1249496583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has 7 comics. < 1249496589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no way it can be absurdly popular. < 1249496594 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249496596 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249496599 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being linked from qwantz.com = instant popular :P < 1249496602 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Compared with codu.org. < 1249496609 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, it was linked from Qwantz. < 1249496612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Like, like, THOUSANDS of hits! < 1249496623 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfft@ehird < 1249496623 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :His point. < 1249496644 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's thousands of people who totally don't want to see "Cannot connect to lonelydino.com" < 1249496647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm just an old fart who TRULY KNOWS WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE #1 ON DIGG AND HAVE /B/ NOTICE. < 1249496719 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, well I'm wearing a fuchsia shirt with a gold tie. < 1249496721 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO I WIN. < 1249496749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1249496764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can has in-state tuition now. < 1249496764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T3h w00ts. < 1249496783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shit it has hover-over text < 1249496788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rereads them all < 1249496842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: All the hover texts suck and you should eliminate them. < 1249496850 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1249497216 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1249497295 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249498017 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know about the second hidden text on qwantz.com until recently :( < 1249498055 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Asztal < 1249498098 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Azstal: Which, the RSS title? < 1249498108 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh... < 1249498119 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: Windows does not need the .exe extension to execute a file. < 1249498127 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1249498130 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since when? < 1249498142 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works at least in NT OSes. < 1249498163 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, it just cares if it's a valid PE file. < 1249498191 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Cygwin could be built without ".exe" files all over the place. < 1249498235 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: not the RSS title :D < 1249498254 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, I've missed those too since I don't use the RSS feed < 1249498263 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's not the RSS title or the title text, I don't know to what you refer < 1249498293 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Look at the "contact" link in the top row :) < 1249498311 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-8 < 1249498363 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha, what's great is that's actually worded as a message to Ryan. < 1249498447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't they use to all be in the title < 1249498450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with two lines separating them < 1249498747 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249499286 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, looks like my backups worked, and Codu2 is totally working, albeit only temporary until prgmr comes back. I'm getting spam again; hooray? < 1249499394 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249499442 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, bye all < 1249499497 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249499551 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-16.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1249500022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1249500739 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.244.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249500864 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249500886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1249500899 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.244.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249501066 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1249501115 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@a91-153-125-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1249501119 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hi :) < 1249501137 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of a coincidence < 1249501147 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"kind of", yeah :P < 1249501157 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually always here whenever I'm online < 1249501158 0 :augur_!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249501163 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i met my neighbor on #proglangdesign, so < 1249501238 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm on wfg because a guy i know likes to conquer Q'less channels, why are you there? < 1249501265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh #proglangdesign that stupid copy of us < 1249501265 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249501277 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh, so you're one of the evil squatters then < 1249501278 0 :augur_!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249501286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wfg? < 1249501291 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :D < 1249501294 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in #wfg because I'm actually involved in it < 1249501295 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q-less? < 1249501299 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like QuakeNet < 1249501370 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249501372 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249501387 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i can probably ask bcz to give you the flags, in care you care < 1249501389 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*case < 1249501409 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay for half-conversations. < 1249501411 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i need to do something now -> < 1249501505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wfg < 1249501517 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1249501524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner what's wf < 1249501525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wfg < 1249501540 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wild fire games < 1249501573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds stupid < 1249501674 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249501723 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1249501791 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249502330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :splorkodynamics < 1249502433 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: am i to understand you don't negotiate with terrorists? < 1249502478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i negotiate with terriers < 1249502495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: anyway how do you "conquer" a channel just cuz it doesn't have a Q < 1249502496 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :may be kinda boring via irc < 1249502503 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I am not currently engaged in a negotiation, no :P < 1249502507 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you can ask for ops if there are none < 1249502514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's stoopid < 1249502558 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i'm just asking if the channel is actually important to you, while bcz probably doesn't give a shit, i do. < 1249502593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: your friend sure sounds like a boring person < 1249502605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what should i do" "i know, i'll conquer quakenet channels!" < 1249502633 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just another kind of trolling < 1249502639 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err yes, that's the general opinion < 1249502641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :90% of trolling is boring < 1249502663 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, he's not boring, least boring guy i know < 1249502690 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a fairly bored person though < 1249502695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boioioioioioioioiring < 1249502842 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway that's what quakenet is for, why use it if you're not going to use it right < 1249502855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quakenet is just a shoddy efnet < 1249502863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :efnet is where the anarchy @ < 1249502910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know much about efnet < 1249502944 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think i've just used it for joining channels like #sex and gathering asl statistics < 1249502955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: efnet's basically entirely anarchy, yeah there are ircops that rule with an iron fist, but that's just part of the game, not any sort of meta rule enforcement < 1249502999 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i understood you correctly, that's exactly how qnet works too, if you takeover a channel, it's yours, the ops don't give a shit < 1249503015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: sure but efnet's anarchy goes beyond that < 1249503024 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1249503024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i don't even know if there are network-wide rules but they sure as hell aren't enforced < 1249503041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: because it's just a bunch of servers wantonly connecting to each other and bits being flipped without human regard for just about anything < 1249503044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :qnet's quite similar < 1249503047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's younger < 1249503052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so shoddy ripoff either way :D < 1249503055 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1249503098 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wantonly has been promoted to your word of the month btw < 1249503110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn did i say wantonly beforehand < 1249503129 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've used it 3 times so that i've seen, i think < 1249503147 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i know because i read it as like "by want-only basis" at first and i was like what < 1249503150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could say that < 1249503151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using it < 1249503153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WANTONLY < 1249503160 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHHA < 1249503174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol amirite < 1249503180 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1249503196 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway more watching random stuff -> < 1249503209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but I'm wantonly beforehanding, amirite < 1249503301 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like completively < 1249503918 0 :BeholdMyGlory_!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249503929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s3d1LfjWCI < 1249503930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ho shit. < 1249503942 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249503949 0 :BeholdMyGlory_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :BeholdMyGlory < 1249504568 0 :evenant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty cool < 1249504606 0 :evenant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he didn't even have to do anything super fancy, i'm a little curious how a* is applied there, i never had thought about that algorithm in terms of say, platforming < 1249504688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evenant: yeah it is cool < 1249504692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking of trying one myself < 1249504697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a semi-pacifist AI could work well < 1249504701 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249504706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. optimise for paths that avoid interacting with monsters < 1249504715 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249504719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure it's possible to make a perfect ai that works on all solvable mario levels < 1249504807 0 :augur_!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249504807 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249505284 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is using a* with that any different from using it with another 2d map < 1249505369 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it doesn't incorporate moving objects really, but you can easily run a complete search between every frame, so doesn't really matter < 1249505498 0 :evenant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't, i just never thought of it that way < 1249505506 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Now, if it incorporated the walk-through-walls glitch, I would be impressed. < 1249505517 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't < 1249505531 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i would be impressed if it wasn't completely mario-specific < 1249505548 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a few ROM-hacked Mario levels that require it. < 1249505551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's not the original game < 1249505556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's randomly-generated < 1249505556 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Lame. < 1249505561 0 :nooga!n=nooga@86-63-124-134.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1249505562 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249505652 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be fun to do something like that, unfortunately i never managed to read the content of the screen in :P < 1249505659 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wants it to play via NES emulator. < 1249505710 0 :BeholdMyGlory_!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249505737 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1249505740 0 :BeholdMyGlory_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :BeholdMyGlory < 1249505783 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you seem to be interested in trivial and boring stuff, and not very interested in interesting stuff < 1249505784 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :discuss < 1249505838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: What, I ask, makes you think that? < 1249505908 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1249506032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: nm, nothing really :D < 1249506069 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Very well, þen. Þou art full of ſhit. Diſcuß. < 1249506093 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249506171 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot explain what my point was < 1249506181 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would require too many words < 1249506188 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :łśja < 1249506191 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant no offense :P < 1249506193 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi nooga < 1249506200 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello thar < 1249506203 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't see you there < 1249506215 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Words are not scarce. :P < 1249506219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i did, more like didn't notice you there < 1249506286 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i just didn't find your ideas for how to enhance that thingie very mathematically interesting; i in no way wanted to imply they should be, it was just a complex unfunny joke. < 1249506335 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: It's hackerly interesting, not mathematically. < 1249506358 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know. < 1249506431 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? (too lazy to check the logs) < 1249506469 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: nothing, i just said something that doesn't make sense without a long explanation < 1249506481 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i haven't completely given < 1249506491 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and won't. god i'm annoying to talk to < 1249506500 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1249506548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make hackerly values mathematical, maybe < 1249506600 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any new langs? < 1249506694 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zilch < 1249506738 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1249507018 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-095-208-142-060.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1249507840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1249508066 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.5.1/20090715094852]" < 1249508081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh, I see." < 1249508553 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ńkóń < 1249509221 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ńķóń < 1249509240 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ńḱóń < 1249509540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nkon < 1249509629 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1249509771 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249509797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think I'll start my os soon < 1249510388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, that mario ai thing is realtime < 1249510390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only have 40ms < 1249510506 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, Mario AI thing eh < 1249510589 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what Mario AI thing? < 1249510606 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: let me guess, plan-9 clone written in haskell? < 1249510628 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can read ehird like a book. < 1249510647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Uhh, no. < 1249510650 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's written in Voynich script. < 1249510660 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1249510672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga's so close to being funny if only he had a sense of humour < 1249510710 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even try to be funny right now < 1249510750 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249510769 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/Programming-Praxis-Josephus-Circle.aspx?CommentReplies=280209 :D < 1249510803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :piet isn't especially hard, is it? < 1249510836 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but it's awesome < 1249510849 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's a beautiful one, too < 1249510868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1249510888 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks pretty, has colors, me likes colors, ugh < 1249510948 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remind me to solve today's in INTERCAL < 1249511024 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I don't think my library has comparisons in yet < 1249511139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fascicle < 1249511166 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :testicle < 1249511184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish there was a button to obliterate nooga from the channel. :D < 1249511210 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I refuse to use anything but my own code when I do INTERCAL < 1249511219 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make one easily, ehird < 1249511237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: That's nice? …Context? < 1249511245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Also, not even syslib.i? That's just stupid. < 1249511246 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1249511252 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:23:44] hmm... I don't think my library has comparisons in yet < 1249511254 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:25:39] Fascicle < 1249511263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, uh, fascicle was just a random word I said. < 1249511265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do that a lot. < 1249511271 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1249511308 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, uh, testicle was just a random word I said... I do that A LOT < 1249511312 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dziwko! < 1249511322 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;> < 1249511343 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249511371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: how could I easily make this obliteration button? < 1249511377 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249511396 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 1: get +o < 1249511408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn I wish I had secret op rights so I could +o myself now < 1249511412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and say "Done." < 1249511426 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 2: rewrite limechat to create such button that sends apropriate command to channel < 1249511434 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 3: ?????? < 1249511440 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 4: PROFIT! < 1249511442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would editing LimeChat.app do for me? < 1249511501 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :display a button (with caption "obliterate nooga from the channel" if needed) that would send +b for me ? < 1249511512 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249511533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how would I invoke that from my IRC client? < 1249511579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well? < 1249511586 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, just use limechat in that marvelous moment < 1249511595 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :modified limechat with button < 1249511598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't use LimeChat. < 1249511682 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weren't you the one who recommended limechat to me < 1249511686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1249511712 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, quite logical < 1249511858 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249511877 0 :nooga!n=nooga@86-63-124-134.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1249511906 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, limechat just crashed < 1249512174 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249512359 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzSRVgF501M < 1249512845 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249512845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1249513042 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1249513315 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.244.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249513333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:45:59 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzSRVgF501M < 1249513338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :firstly that's not a hallucinogen < 1249513341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :secondly old :P < 1249513360 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION first found out about it today, so it < 1249513364 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not old to me < 1249513422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's interesting though < 1249513429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the effects only last about 3-5 seconds < 1249513441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not nearly trippy enough :) < 1249513472 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me, the effect is strong, but yeah, 1:40 for 5 seconds of effect is meh < 1249513487 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5-10sec < 1249513526 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, people do that with food. Hours of cooking, for maybe 30min of eating < 1249513541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but 30min of eating is way more enjoyable than 5 seconds of warping < 1249513547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cooking can be fun < 1249513555 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't find eating to be enjoyable :/ < 1249513569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then either you eat bad food or have issues < 1249513582 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the latter < 1249513582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, Sgeo, I've seen better versions of that effect < 1249513583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little weaker, but only take 15-30s < 1249513591 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ooh, where? < 1249513599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all over the internet < 1249513613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's uberfamous < 1249513627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance < 1249513627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zecina.blogspot.com/2009/04/warp-illusion.html < 1249513630 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Using slow motion causes a longer and stronger trip." < 1249513633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :googled "warping illusion" on google < 1249513636 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcSUrdipBY8 ) < 1249513640 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know if that's true < 1249513657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blogspot one i linked to is more spiky < 1249513658 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@65.215.113.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249513685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: effects can linger btw < 1249513696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance my computer's UI elements bulged almost imperceptably for seconds after < 1249513705 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1249513725 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that's quite normal since you're using mac < 1249513726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: have you seen that thing where you stare at one image and stare at another which gives it colours, and even five years later the colours are still there without looking at the trigger? < 1249513731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: hur hur hur < 1249513752 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um, what? I've seen that thing before, but the effects don't last 5 years < 1249513764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's another thing, then < 1249513768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was specifically deigned and researched < 1249513795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comment on that slow video: < 1249513797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[if i look at a shadow its fuck are it could be the acid fuck maybe it not wise to wacth these while high on acid what the fuck am i typein who am i typein to why am i typin]] < 1249513802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I think it's the acid not the video. < 1249513829 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1249513831 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :acid is overrated < 1249513910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: thing augur told me about, < 1249513921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you put on glasses that make everything upside down, you'll be disoriented at first < 1249513923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a day or two < 1249513926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, everything is fine < 1249513932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if a week or two later you take them off? < 1249513935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything seems upside down. < 1249513945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you have to relearn what's the right way up. < 1249513959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol should do that, he's the only one crazy enough < 1249514112 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't it only take a day or two to get reoriented? < 1249514123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1249514126 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the longer video didn't have longer lasting effects for me :( < 1249514129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who knows what it could fuck up in your brain < 1249514150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you'd have to relearn left/right from scratch, for instance < 1249514154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not as easy as it sounds... < 1249514174 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has had issues with left/right when he was younger < 1249514176 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1249514259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: my mother still has to think to remember which is which < 1249514267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's depressing < 1249514375 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://frogger11758.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/left-left-left-right-left/ < 1249514427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I wonder if this is an Aspie trait or simply an idiosyncracy of mine." < 1249514440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, I hate people who ascribe everything to the vague notion of Asperger's syndrome. < 1249514441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hate hate hate. < 1249514454 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a word for that guy's condition; it's "can't tell left from right". < 1249514483 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...hence the wonder, and not "It's because I'm an Aspie" < 1249514515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't care, such association is completely unfounded and just further muddies the definition of the psychological equivalent of a pile of mud < 1249514517 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday reading my own written driving instructions I turned right instead of left, and even reading it multiple times I could have SWORN it was a right arrow. Does that mean I have Asperger's? < 1249514518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/./ < 1249514522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Yes. < 1249514523 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249514533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being a geek and/or different and/or strange = YOU HAVE ASPERGER'S SYNDROME! < 1249514565 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....I'm pretty sure that this person was diagnosed with AS < 1249514576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My point < 1249514577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1249514577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1249514577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1249514577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1249514577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1249514579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your head < 1249514603 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you weren't talking about Cale in particular >.> < 1249514645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of what I said still applies. < 1249514659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And diagnosing someone with a pile of mud doesn't make it any less mdudy. < 1249514662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :muddy. < 1249514666 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHydHfs8mmo "Do not participate in this video several times in a short space of time" < 1249514667 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1249514690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell it's a serious warning because it has a cannabis leaf. < 1249514706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol that's recorded from a screen < 1249514707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can tell < 1249514715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a camera < 1249514719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the table, I ask you < 1249514722 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1249514760 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$attempt_to_indicate_that_I_get_the_reference_without_being_able_to_come_up_with_a_suitable_reference_myself < 1249514761 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then who was phone? < 1249514787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: dude, that doesn't even fucking fit < 1249514830 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's just a random phrase < 1249514832 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, http://www.creepypasta.com/yeah-so-quit-asking/ < 1249514849 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to speak random phrases sometimes < 1249514865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ahh the first image in the header is the devil's bible < 1249514868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate that image < 1249514872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :creeps me out < 1249514970 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1249514976 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :devils bible is fun < 1249514984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up < 1249515063 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, its more like a week of disorientation < 1249515066 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gradually decreasing ofcourse < 1249515077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: when you put on the glasses or after taking them off? < 1249515081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, has this actually been tried? < 1249515086 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1249515088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1249515088 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1249515096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by whom? link? any lingering effects at the end? < 1249515111 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont remember by who, and no, no lingering effects < 1249515194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: what i want to know is, does your brain actually end up flipping the image for you, so that it appears normal (not that you could really tell), or do you actually get an intuitive sense for the directions? < 1249515211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't imagine feeling my arm going leftwards and associating that with anything other than what i see now as left < 1249515216 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that question does not infact make sense. < 1249515225 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite the obvious sensicality of it. < 1249515242 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: shut up <-- he's afraid of the devil ;D < 1249515249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: no, that image is just creepy < 1249515252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: :P < 1249515385 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world has no inherent up and down. we have gravity here on earth, sure, and your brain correlates sensed direction of gravity with motion in your visual inputs, but the "image" isn't flipped, etc. if you hung yourself upside, in a room that was upside down, the image would be "right side up", but it would FEEL upside down. and eventually, as your brain adjusts to the change in gravity, you would not be able to distingui < 1249515388 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh anything as being different from how it was, i think < 1249515396 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it wouldnt "flip" in any sense < 1249515412 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like talking about flipping an image in your computer. not on your SCREEN, but in the computer, in the binary representation. < 1249515415 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary has no up or down < 1249515417 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes no sense. < 1249515443 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could call the direction that gravity pulls in the world's "down" < 1249515450 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, i said that < 1249515459 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i said that we have gravity < 1249515463 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calling that down changes nothing < 1249515513 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your experience of the visual stuff aligned in one way or another is the result of how that data correlates with other sensory data, but the sum total of that data has no "down" independent of how the data coheres < 1249515544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1249515551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just upsets me we can't ask these questions < 1249515557 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ask them < 1249515563 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: "Down" is a direction that only has meaning regarding a frame of reference. That's about it. Whoo. < 1249515564 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oklopol should do that, he's the only one crazy enough <<< i've thought about doing that many times, but i don't have the glasses to do it. < 1249515564 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the answer is that there is no answer. :) < 1249515571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and scares me that our minds are so... < 1249515573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goedelian < 1249515578 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i've heard it takes a lot more than a few days < 1249515582 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: wat < 1249515588 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anything it should turn you on! < 1249515590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: as in, we couldn't detect a serious cognitive change from inside that cognition < 1249515600 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we could actually < 1249515606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we can't observe those cognitive changes from outside < 1249515610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very Reflections on Trusting Trust < 1249515614 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because we would observe a difference in how things cohere < 1249515623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :orly? how would you detect the flip change < 1249515637 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you'd detect it at FIRST by the fact that the image would appear upside down to you < 1249515642 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your brain has to adjust < 1249515642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonono < 1249515645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got amnesia < 1249515650 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the image on your retina is ALREADY upside down. < 1249515651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they wiped your memories of adjusting < 1249515661 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well, in that case, so what? < 1249515674 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your experience of the world before and after is no different < 1249515678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I care about plenty of questions of that sort < 1249515682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. quantum mechanics interpretation < 1249515685 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all thats different is whether your retinas are bigendian or littleendian < 1249515693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: aha, so < 1249515699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the image ISN'T subjectively flipped < 1249515700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so to speak < 1249515701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1249515703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cognitive experience we get < 1249515705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is exactly the same < 1249515716 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, sort of < 1249515718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just our mappings being readjusted but not the visuals < 1249515724 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1249515727 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1249515731 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the visuals ARE the mappings < 1249515732 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats all there is < 1249515737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blue2_light.bmp: PNG image data, 512 x 512, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced <-- someone fails at file extensions :D < 1249515738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1249515740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't feel like that < 1249515741 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1249515744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like we have a bitmap image in front of us < 1249515747 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ofcourse it doesnt < 1249515747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and interpret it cognitively < 1249515758 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because our brain processes the content of the data < 1249515759 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the form < 1249515759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't feel like what i see is my cognitive representation < 1249515781 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, its like the brain has a native jpeg interpreter < 1249515789 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and doesnt need to render out to a bit map to do facial recognition < 1249515792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh my vision is better quality than jpeg < 1249515804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I'm just saying that my vision FEELS unprocessed < 1249515805 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, it just learnt to detect faces in the jpeg encoded data < 1249515807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like i act on that < 1249515811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :direct image < 1249515815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of course is false < 1249515822 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure it does, because you're detecting the semantics, not the encoding < 1249515830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1249515833 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are, in a sense, acting on a direct image < 1249515856 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the periphery has direct images as input < 1249515857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically, if you had a button that let you switch between adjusted-to-flip-with-flip and not-adjusted-without < 1249515862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then clicking it would seem to do nothing at all < 1249515874 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the patterns, the relative behaviors, are all still detectable < 1249515878 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thats what your brain cares about < 1249515880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to if the visuals were unprocessed and we acted on them, in which case there would be some sort of visual jolt < 1249515882 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the correlative behavior < 1249515883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everything would seem right < 1249515884 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the literal form < 1249515886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: confirm/deny < 1249515887 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the image doesn't flip, but what does magically flip is what it means to move your left or right arm, because you need to adjust those to work with what you see. so to speak. as augur said, not a completely well-defined question < 1249515889 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb dinner < 1249515902 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone should just try it out < 1249515917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but you couldn't answer the question even subjectively < 1249515918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without resetting < 1249515923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at which point you'd have to do it again < 1249515924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reset < 1249515928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's impossible < 1249515931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need both states at once to answer it < 1249515940 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm already pretty good at moving based on looking in the mirror < 1249515958 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only get practise in elevators, so progress is slow < 1249515988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could buy a mirror. < 1249515989 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird how fast you can flip your left and right < 1249516029 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not exactly skill #1 to acquire on my list. < 1249516045 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ingólv < 1249516053 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inglowes < 1249516090 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ferflóht < 1249516276 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fer like german ver < 1249516288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your mom like finlandic your face < 1249516371 0 :meanburrito920!n=John@unaffiliated/meanburrito920-/x-7432637 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249516378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, it's a burrito. That is mean. < 1249516378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, did you see that about wrong extension above? < 1249516395 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY THE CORRECT TERM IS FIN*NISH* < 1249516404 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i hate your ignorance GRRR < 1249516405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no that's the culture < 1249516407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finlandic is the place < 1249516412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: What am I supposed to respond? < 1249516414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi meanburrito920. < 1249516421 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NUHHUH MAN SO ISN'T < 1249516422 0 :meanburrito920!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1249516425 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi meanie < 1249516441 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear, i guess what ehird done here is an example of my (alleged) idiocy < 1249516446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1249516453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanburrito920: (a) who are you, (b) what brought you here, (c) how many goats did you sacrifice? < 1249516456 0 :meanburrito920!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, are you showing cultural ignorance of finishing? < 1249516470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :…xD < 1249516473 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ages ago on nooga: sega < 1249516482 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my answer. < 1249516528 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look ol' polo ok? oklopol < 1249516545 0 :meanburrito920!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, (a) I am who am (b) i took a scroll down /list lane (c) i sacrificed no goats. however, i did sacrifice many cookies, who died valiantly in my tummy < 1249516551 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a palindrome < 1249516569 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does not need to < 1249516585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanburrito920: well it's a good thing you appear to be in programming channels because we do not yet specialise in voodoo. < 1249516596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you came in at a great time, this channel is like this pretty much always. < 1249516614 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DSA < 1249516675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, oklopol's face really looks like that. < 1249516679 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i done many palindromes here? < 1249516693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1249516709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no on! < 1249516713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!no on!, rather. < 1249516753 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: meanburrito920: (a) who are you, (b) what brought you here, (c) how many goats did you sacrifice? < 1249516760 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanburrito920: ehird, (a) I am who am (b) i took a scroll down /list lane (c) i sacrificed no goats. however, i did sacrifice many cookies, who died valiantly in my tummy < 1249516762 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"th" is an annoying little bastard < 1249516764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: hey i copywrit that < 1249516767 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it comes to making pals < 1249516771 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably ehird found a new friend) < 1249516772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: htu < 1249516776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :helsinki technology university < 1249516784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: i have no idea what the fuck you're talking about < 1249516791 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: nicks, names and acronyms are cheating < 1249516795 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck about talking < 1249516798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanburrito920: http://esolangs.org/ btw