00:01:15 -!- ehird has changed nick to eli_yt. 00:01:19 grr 00:01:47 -!- eli_yt has changed nick to eli_yt`xyrd. 00:01:56 _ is ",", ` is "." 00:01:57 hmm 00:01:59 let's reverse that 00:02:03 -!- eli_yt`xyrd has changed nick to eli`yt_xyrd. 00:02:57 here we go.. recompiling xchat... 00:03:22 eli�t h��rdi 00:03:34 http://www.catholic-tube.com/ 00:04:05 i'm so getting oklotube 00:04:36 videos about me, supplied by you and your friends. 00:04:39 oerjan: …Convert Obama. 00:04:40 * oerjan thinks ehird will find the lead story there suitable wtf :D 00:04:40 Really now. 00:04:45 Heh, snap. 00:04:52 *ly 00:04:54 * eli`yt_xyrd prays to turn Obama into an atheist. 00:04:55 Wait. 00:04:56 Never mind. 00:05:07 Dammit, how do you set up an opposing movement to that? :-) 00:05:46 eli`yt_xyrd: an atheist would use the placebo effect for that purpose, i think 00:05:53 what is obama? 00:06:00 religion-wise 00:06:03 oklopol: some us black guy 00:06:08 oklopol: uhh i think just like 00:06:09 uncatholic 00:06:11 um 00:06:13 * eli`yt_xyrd looks up 00:06:15 anticatholic 00:06:21 ReligionChristian,[3] former member of United Church of Christ[4][5] 00:06:35 so i guess protestant kinda thing 00:06:43 congregationalist & presbyterian sez [[United Church of Christ]] 00:06:49 The UCC maintains full communion with several other mainline Protestant denominations and participates in worldwide ecumenical efforts. The UCC has historically favored progressive, or liberal, views on civil rights, gay rights, women's rights, abortion, and other issues. Congregations have extensive, perhaps definitive, authority over matters of doctrine and ministry, though, and may or may not support the national body's theological or moral stan 00:06:51 ces. 00:06:55 so, liberal kinda christian 00:07:38 are all us presidents religious nowadays? 00:07:48 i'm about as clueless about these things as an infant 00:07:58 oklopol: every single US president has been religious 00:08:02 the founding fathers were deists 00:08:10 oh? 00:08:12 so they won't be saying "god bless" 00:08:18 but they still believe there was a god guy 00:08:18 i've heard otherwise 00:08:26 oklopol: yes, by over-zealous atheists seeking confirmation 00:08:34 makes sense 00:08:40 they were secular, understated deists 00:08:44 still religion 00:09:37 -!- eli`yt_xyrd has changed nick to elliott. 00:09:43 i hate how this is registered 00:09:51 that's just scary :\ 00:09:52 oh wow 00:09:54 i mean the nick. 00:09:55 I recall some poll showing that if somebody was an atheist, but otherwise everybody agreed with them about everything, they still wouldn't win in a US presidential race. Or even come close. 00:09:55 it's registered by elliottcable 00:09:58 whom I hate 00:10:07 and I mean hate 00:10:10 -!- elliott has changed nick to ehird. 00:10:31 GregorR: your country rocks :P 00:10:40 :( 00:10:44 -!- ehird has changed nick to elliott. 00:10:50 can't say i know what the state is in finland. 00:11:06 112 days since use, excellent 00:11:10 * elliott asks for droppitude 00:11:16 (Also, a gay man could potentially win, but narrowly, it was like 30% who would refuse to vote for him based on that alone) 00:11:25 hehe 00:11:44 -!- elliott has changed nick to ehird. 00:11:48 darn 00:11:54 apparently the account owner has to be inactive 00:12:01 they pointed out he was in #freenode :) 00:12:08 lawl 00:12:24 hmm that means I could hog hundreds of nicks 00:12:25 Somebody registered 'Gregor' five weeks ago. 00:12:27 and just stay online the account 00:12:30 To that I say, "Gee, I'm a retard" 00:12:38 GregorR: just give it 60 days :P 00:12:52 But I wanna drink goat's blood! 00:13:05 wait, what? 00:13:31 But it's only Tuesday :( 00:13:32 oklopol: you said you were gonna think for a few hours when i asked how exactly your OS would visualise objects 00:13:37 did you ever finish that thinking :D 00:14:12 oh i don't think i even started :D 00:14:23 you do realize it was like a year ago that i was interested in os stuff 00:14:40 oklopol: well yeah but you're not even interested in computers any more 00:14:47 so everything is gonna be backdated 00:14:50 true. 00:15:01 damn it seems gtkspell is too old too 00:15:03 sigh 00:15:09 He's only interested in gay sex, torture and murder. 00:15:15 and IRC 00:15:15 :D 00:15:18 don't forget IRC 00:15:22 ehird: True 00:15:35 oklopol: are those vjn people still spamming in finnish? 00:15:38 i suspect them of doing it non-stop for years without sleeping 00:15:45 err, yes, we still do 00:15:51 i'ma go eavesdrop 00:15:54 ehird, btw when googling I found a highly insane thread at the ubuntu forums... 00:15:57 but, pretty much all of vjn is currently in the army 00:16:02 not sure if it is safe to link it to you 00:16:07 AnMaster: sure thing. 00:16:13 actually. Not a good idea AT ALL. 00:16:13 oklopol: mandatory .mil service? 00:16:17 AnMaster: do it bitch 00:16:21 except one who was there for 3 days and got bored, one who's me, and one who did it ages ago 00:16:27 ehird: yes. 00:16:30 or i'll find an openssl exploit and hax your computer to find the link 00:16:33 oklopol: lame 00:16:45 ehird, lets just say it is someone recompiling packages on ubuntu with -funroll-loops... 00:16:49 AnMaster: <3 00:16:51 link 00:16:55 GregorR: actually i take back my insult, finland is worse :P 00:17:00 it'll be avant garde 00:17:00 ehird, ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101097 00:17:03 oklopol: insult at what 00:17:04 from 2005 00:17:13 ehird: that poll thing GregorR mentioned 00:17:19 oklopol: what did you say about it? 00:17:21 oh wait 00:17:28 AnMaster: ugh 00:17:33 does us have mandatory mil? :P 00:17:40 no. 00:17:40 it doesn't in tv shows 00:17:51 ehird, agreed 00:17:57 ehird, and gentoo devs would agree too 00:17:59 NOT safe flags 00:18:17 ehird: #vjn.priv has most of the action nowadays 00:18:25 oklopol: sounds terribly private. 00:18:30 yes. 00:18:37 it's ok, i'm happy being part of the hoi polloi 00:18:42 which i guess consists of… me 00:18:47 maybe Q 00:18:50 me and Q 00:18:54 unless .priv has Q 00:18:55 your being on #vjn may induce okoing there ofc, although you probably leave soon. 00:18:57 then just me 00:19:18 q is on .priv. 00:19:29 i'm so ronery 00:19:46 .priv is for voiced people and ops really 00:20:22 except this johan who we know from volimo's invading a few of his channels has an autovoice too 00:20:29 but isn't part of vjn 00:20:59 didn't you guys sign up as a corporation or something? or was that a religion 00:21:03 anyway, you should do it as a religion instead 00:21:06 we're a registered group 00:21:07 i think everything should be a religion 00:21:13 i mean you can only have one religion 00:21:17 so it'd enforce cliqueness 00:21:34 oklopol: that sounds like a very pointless status 00:21:35 we were thinking about religion, but most of us don't want the possible press interest 00:21:56 oklopol: methinks you overestimate your importance :D 00:22:38 idea: install new gtkspell and xchat in ~/local 00:22:51 ehird, is that a better/worse idea than upgrading it system wide? 00:22:54 my friend's mum works for a paper, she'd definitely write the story at least 00:23:02 AnMaster: it's a pretty bad idea. 00:23:17 which said friend wouldn't want 00:23:23 ehird, well I can't live without proper spell checking in irc client. And that means I need to do either of those 00:23:32 since I found in changelog that this is real real issue 00:23:35 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 00:23:36 AnMaster: so you want it in xchat but don't need it in firefox? 00:23:44 do you never type in two languages in firefox too? 00:23:50 an app-specific "solution" to this is silly 00:24:04 ehird, err I can change language in firefox already? 00:24:14 Yeah… tediously. 00:24:26 ehird, not really 00:24:26 AnMaster: If it works how you want, then that's just Gnome's widget. 00:24:28 Install xchat-gnome and it should use it. 00:24:37 ehird, anyway it isn't app specifc 00:24:42 XChat doesn't use Gnome stuff, so. 00:24:43 anything using gtkspell can use it 00:24:55 As I said, I doubt it's gtkspell. 00:25:04 ehird, I read the changelog 00:25:05 a sec 00:25:11 http://gtkspell.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog 00:25:16 Just install xchat-gnome and see if it works, ffs. 00:25:17 * Fix feature request #1523881, #1643622 and #2054637 00:25:17 by adding a Language selector sub-menu. 00:25:18 there 00:25:19 ehird, ^ 00:25:22 HAPPY NOW? 00:25:32 You're an idiot and clearly cannot comprehend English 00:25:35 s/$/./ 00:25:43 http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/garfield-lol.jpg 00:25:43 Also, your argument method consists of yelling. 00:25:51 I haven't /ignored someone in a while. 00:26:04 GregorR: Oooold 00:26:04 Like 2006-2007 old 00:26:23 ehird, very well I compiled it in "/local and used LD_PRELOAD. Guess what now xchat automatically has that pop up menu option 00:26:32 * GregorR looks at the URL. 00:26:32 ehird, do you finally believe me? 00:26:38 I'd say more like, 2008 old :P 00:26:48 GregorR: That image is copied. 00:26:55 From the, I think, dinosaur comic forums. 00:26:58 So's your face. 00:27:24 -!- FireFly has quit ("Later"). 00:27:47 ais523, sigh I guess ehird ignored me just before I told him about LD_PRELOAD? 00:27:51 `translatefrom se Later 00:27:51 No output. 00:28:05 oerjan, not Swedish 00:28:18 AnMaster: are you saying that you got it to work? 00:28:44 ais523, yes with LD_PRELOADing a newer gtkspell.so 00:28:47 `translatefrom no Later 00:28:48 No output. 00:28:50 which is a temp hack 00:29:00 just to check that I was right 00:29:40 oh and xchat-gnome doesn't support it 00:29:45 so using it won't help anywya 00:29:47 anyway* 00:31:52 even better: xchat-gnome destroyed the normal xchat settings 00:32:03 I guess ehird is REALLY proud now 00:32:36 ais523, please tell ehird that 1) it was gtkspell 2) xchat-gnome didn't work 3) xchat-gnome mangled preferences from normal xchat. 00:32:38 that is all 00:32:47 ais523, please tell ehird that 1) it was gtkspell 2) xchat-gnome didn't work 3) xchat-gnome mangled preferences from normal xchat. 00:32:55 ais523: if you do that again, I'll ignore you. 00:33:09 seems he is afraid of the truth too 00:33:11 oh well 00:33:23 ehird: it's not as if you're saying anything atm anyway 00:33:41 ais523: and? I don't appreciate you breaking my ignore option. 00:33:53 yes he is afraid of the truth 00:34:01 AnMaster: I don't think that's quite the situation 00:34:10 at least I can accept when I'm wrong usually. ehird can't 00:34:43 anyway now lets find a more permanent solution than scp from libgtkspell.so.0.0.0 from gentoo and then LD_PRELOAD it 00:35:13 hmm... it seems that people who arrive at websites from Bing are 55% more likely to click through on adverts 00:35:20 compared to people who arrived from Google 00:35:24 ais523, any idea if there is any place like packages.debian.org but for ubuntu? 00:35:35 AnMaster: IIRC, it exists but I don't know where it is 00:35:45 also, apt-cache search, etc, can be pretty useful 00:35:50 ah 00:35:52 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtkspell 00:35:53 that 00:35:58 ok there, now i ignored _both_ ehird and AnMaster. 00:36:01 ais523, yes but I want to find last unstable 00:36:11 oerjan: i apologise for not saying anything. 00:36:18 ais523, huh? did either of us insult oerjan? 00:36:19 actually, what would be much better than ignore would be something that prevents the server from sending your messages to everyone on the chan. 00:36:25 or is oerjan just joking 00:36:44 i don't think he felt he was insulted 00:36:52 AnMaster: there is definitely a place for find last unstable, but again I don't know where it is 00:37:08 oklopol: /part? or have I taken the wrong interpretation of your ambiguous sentence? 00:37:08 he just doesn't like seeing hate. 00:37:10 ais523, how sane on a scale from 0-10 is it to use a package from last unstable on stable 00:37:17 ais523: "everyone" 00:37:17 ais523, as in: package manager breaking or such? 00:37:18 not anyone 00:37:30 i.e., /notfortheeyesof AnMaster 00:37:31 AnMaster: it won't break the package manager, most likely it'll complain about unmet dependencies if you try though 00:37:36 ais523: what ehird said; which i guess means "what i said" 00:37:42 ais523, hm interesting 00:37:56 i'm going to try macirssi now! 00:37:56 the package manager won't let you do anything stupid without a --force option 00:38:21 ais523: basically the ability to ignore myself for someone else. 00:38:45 ais523, now to figure out how.. because deps are rather modest of this... 00:38:47 oklopol: unfortunately, most IRC servers ban the obvious method of implementing that 00:38:54 which is list-of-people PRIVMSGs 00:38:56 ais523: what's the obvious method? 00:39:01 eh 00:39:11 that's not the same 00:39:21 your messages will not be mutual knowledge to the channel 00:39:25 oklopol: in theory, you can write PRIVMSG ais523,AnMaster,ehird :Look at this message! 00:39:30 they will be knowledge separately to each dude on the chan 00:39:37 ideally, you'd want PRIVMSG ais523,AnMaster,ehird@#esoteric :Look at this message! 00:39:41 ais523, doesn't work on freenode 00:39:45 iirc 00:39:58 or maybe, PRIVMSG -oklopol@#esoteric :This is secret from oklopol 00:40:04 except - is legal in nicks 00:40:08 so you'd need a different syntax 00:40:21 i guess you could prepend something like "this is a message to everyone except X on #Y:". 00:40:27 then it would be mutual knowledge 00:40:40 but i prefer the solution where the server does it 00:40:41 ais523, what is this extension to IRC supposed to do 00:40:51 AnMaster: what oklopol requested 00:41:05 ais523, exclude someone else from seeing the message? 00:41:10 -!- ehird_ has joined. 00:41:15 wb ehird_ 00:41:17 hi ehird_ 00:41:24 heh macirssi shows the topic as \u05ea etc 00:41:26 AnMaster: yes, basically to avoid annoying them 00:41:34 kinda very unicode! 00:42:17 okay how do i make this window less transparent 00:42:25 it doth piss me off 00:42:28 super-mousewheel? 00:42:38 ais523: wat? 00:42:47 i mean sure i sometimes want not to see other people's messages for a while, when i need a break from the anger induced trance, but a forced ignore would be a nice long-term solution to annoying people. 00:42:59 there we go 00:43:09 longer-term, that is, i can't really be mad to anyone for more than a few hours 00:43:26 to humans that is 00:43:34 ehird_: I was trying to remember how to do it on Compiz 00:43:41 it has a shortcut to control window transparenc 00:43:46 ais523: wow 00:43:48 wait, no super-mousewheel is zoom 00:43:54 well, that could actually be useful 00:43:57 there is a shortcut for transparency, though 00:43:57 to see stuff behind it quickly 00:44:00 ehird_: it has been 00:44:00 though I'd prefer just one shortcut 00:44:03 to make it about half transparent 00:44:09 as opposed to such silly fine-grainedness 00:44:21 hmm 00:44:26 i appear to be unable to say unicode chars 00:44:32 it just gets eaten up 00:44:41 well this client is thoroughly shit 00:46:23 Colloquy 2.2 (4129) 00:46:23 The latest build on 1/9/2009 can be downloaded here (6.98 MB). Requires Mac OS X 10.4 or higher. Supplied as a universal binary, allowing it to run on an Intel or PowerPC Mac. 00:46:28 cool a new colloquy 00:46:31 that's basically unheard of 00:46:50 SO LONG SOLK FUCKERS! 00:46:53 ...for a second 00:46:55 -!- ehird_ has quit ("Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/"). 00:47:07 -!- ehird_ has joined. 00:47:14 -!- ehird_ has quit (Client Quit). 00:47:34 -!- ehird_ has joined. 00:47:39 what i meant to say was 00:47:44 "correction 00:47:50 -!- ehird_ has quit (Client Quit). 00:48:11 -!- ehird_ has joined. 00:48:14 /quit Don't get MacIrssi, it sucks - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/" 00:48:20 without the space 00:48:25 jesus fucking christ on a pogo stick 00:48:37 -!- ehird_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:50:37 -!- ehird_ has joined. 00:50:39 hi bitches 00:50:47 i don't never made a floughterus 00:50:53 and you know it's true 00:51:15 -!- ehird has quit ("Caught sigterm, terminating..."). 00:51:20 hahaha lame bitch-o 00:51:21 -!- ehird_ has changed nick to ehird. 00:52:00 you can't have sex on a pogo stick 00:52:04 fuckin' can 00:52:11 you can fuck a can. 00:53:46 -!- anm_ub has joined. 00:54:05 ais523, yes it seems to work very nicely. Had to build it locally to get deps right 00:54:08 but that was easy 00:54:16 anm_ub: context? 00:54:44 dpkg-buildpackage to build the "unstable" gtkspell 00:54:57 then installing it 00:55:04 works flawlessly 00:55:18 and yes the extra menu in the popup menu is there 00:55:55 I wgeted the files in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/gtkspell/2.0.15-0ubuntu1 00:56:04 -!- anm_ub has changed nick to anmaster_ub. 00:56:09 -!- ehird has quit. 00:56:50 ais523, I wonder why ehird had such large issues with me being right about it being a gtkspell issue... 00:57:17 -!- ehird has joined. 00:57:21 that's my name 00:57:23 don't tear it about 00:57:28 -!- ehird has left (?). 00:57:30 huh 00:57:32 -!- ehird has joined. 00:57:34 tis though 00:57:37 why did he leave in a huff suddenly 00:57:42 *shrug* 00:57:52 ok this style sucks 00:57:55 i'ma try another one 00:58:03 -!- ehird has quit (Client Quit). 00:58:15 -!- ehird has joined. 00:58:21 good morning america 00:58:29 mood gorning america 00:58:46 hmm 00:58:50 wonder if i can, like 00:58:51 change this font. 00:58:53 would be nic. 00:58:54 e. 00:59:21 anyway... long live gtkspell 2.0.15 01:01:34 * ais523 is annoyed at Ubuntu's typical bug response it's considerably worse than Debian's <-- ? 01:02:43 yes 01:02:47 very considerably worse 01:02:50 Debian's is pretty good IME 01:02:55 ais523, in what way 01:03:16 response time 01:03:27 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 01:03:30 btw this is a rather tight fit in the menu bar thing at the top 01:03:51 brb 01:03:52 brb 01:03:55 -!- ehird has quit. 01:04:07 -!- ehird has joined. 01:04:11 hello! 01:04:17 turns out I'm an antelope. would you believe? 01:04:27 2x xchat icon (this is X forward, haven't yet fixed listening ip for bouncer), battery, network manager, bluetooth, CPU temp, battery temp, fan speed, core 1 temp, core 2 temp, sound, date 01:04:28 ais523, ^ 01:04:31 what do you think :D 01:04:45 -!- anmaster_ub has quit ("brb"). 01:04:46 fairly sure I've outlawed slavery at least once in my lifetime 01:04:51 AnMaster: I don't 01:04:55 no opinion 01:05:27 I think I shall have to ignore ehird too soon 01:05:33 clearly he is trying to be annoying 01:06:07 well guys! it's been just swell 01:06:11 but i gotta fly you know? 01:06:11 like 01:06:13 into bed 01:06:16 ais523, btw, apart from the wlan... this thinkpad works very well 01:06:18 fly into bed. 01:06:19 → 01:06:21 -!- ehird has quit (Client Quit). 01:06:39 ais523, the wlan has some bug that makes it take ages to connect to networks with WPA2-PSK 01:06:44 like that I use at home 01:06:57 known and reported bug 01:08:00 AnMaster: in what? 01:08:32 ais523, well no one knows... either wpa_supplicant or the kernel module iwlagn 01:08:37 or a combination 01:09:33 the result is that it takes a random amount of time before things connect 01:09:41 before it keeps reporting this in dmesg: 01:09:42 : 01:09:47 [17435.744398] wlan0: disassociating by local choice (reason=3) 01:10:20 last time it took 10 seconds. the time before that it took about 5 minutes 01:10:26 ais523, this is a very annoying bug 01:10:28 I think that bug affects me too 01:10:32 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.org <- Nobody cares enough to cybersquat it"). 01:10:36 ais523, you have an intel chipset? 01:10:42 that uses that driver? 01:10:51 if it is a different driver hm 01:10:59 yes, intel chipset 01:11:02 then maybe the bug is in wpa_supplicant 01:11:06 ais523, that driver though? 01:11:10 can't remember the driver offhand 01:11:15 ais523, also when did the issue start 01:11:20 ais523, lsmod | grep wlan 01:11:25 AnMaster: it's been there forever 01:11:32 ais523, damn :( 01:11:47 ais523, sometimes it doesn't connect at all 01:12:02 anyway do you know any good workaround? 01:12:13 no 01:12:28 ais523, so how do you usually solve it...? 01:12:31 waiting? 01:12:46 also I sure hope the university I'm going to won't use WPA2 01:13:35 yes, waiting 01:14:20 ais523, looks like WLAN coverage at the uni is rather sparse: https://shib1.oru.se/account/images/Zonkarta.jpg 01:14:20 bear in mind that my trackpad doesn't work, the sound has issues sometimes, some of the buttons on the front don't work, and the computer needs a reboot to turn the screen on if it's closed 01:14:27 the https cert is broken yes 01:14:36 I guess I will have to reupload the image instead 01:15:12 the link to the PDF with details about wlan gives 404 01:15:44 ais523, my touchpad/trackpoint works 01:15:47 two issues however: 01:15:57 tapping the trackpoint is supposed to click: doesn't work 01:16:49 Fn-F8 is supposed to turn off the touchpad (useful when you are writing to prevent accidental mouse movements), after some fiddling with hal it does. But it *also* turns off the buttons for the trackpoint 01:16:59 the thinkpad has two sets of buttons 01:17:04 one below the touchpad 01:17:06 and one above 01:17:16 the above ones are for the track point in the middle of the keyboard 01:17:35