< 1248393951 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anybody actually pronounce "towards" as two syllables? < 1248393957 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote for spelling reform: tords < 1248393978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I do. < 1248393983 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suuuuuuuuuuuure you do. < 1248394008 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would in a song < 1248394020 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well only if you needed two syllables there :P < 1248394026 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true :P < 1248394842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i do < 1248394844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to-wards < 1248394890 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKING BRITS < 1248394894 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t'wards < 1248394908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I also don't omit consonants. < 1248394931 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you only omit 'r's. OH WAIT < 1248394935 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor: tords as well. < 1248394986 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /tOr\dz/ pride what what < 1248394999 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts on is tords pride pin < 1248395004 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a Brit. < 1248395018 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, but I'm not sure who to blame for you :P < 1248395018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I speak quite impeccably, when I think about it. < 1248395032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Nor am I. < 1248395034 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR < 1248395034 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: thats because you're a tord. < 1248395042 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1248395044 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've moved about every other year. < 1248395045 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248395055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Is there some sort of thing about Britons and Rs? < 1248395057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow. < 1248395065 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Non-rhotic accents. < 1248395067 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's me making an American schwer sound :P < 1248395080 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is true < 1248395087 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of british accents, including RP, are non-rhotic < 1248395101 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however gregor, thats not so much omitting r's as it is having no rhotic vowels < 1248395107 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in phonetics, atleast < 1248395111 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I know :P < 1248395113 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i guess amounts to omitting r's < 1248395123 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a lot of American accents are rhotic -- because when they forked from Britain, most British accents were rhotic. < 1248395123 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then theres a good question of whether the r's are there in the first place < 1248395125 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since 'r' is usually considered a consonant (we don't have a schwer letter), it was easy :P < 1248395133 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance < 1248395160 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirds "towards" is probably [t+h@wO:dz] < 1248395164 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to take this opportunity to say "Tony Bleh" < 1248395175 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no gregorr what i mean is < 1248395191 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a difference between [@r\] and [@`] < 1248395194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: augur: It's not pronounced "Bleh", even by Britons, and here is proof that I pronounce Rs: http://filebin.ca/yommfq/arrrr.ogg < 1248395205 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: E_JOKE < 1248395207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds crap but < 1248395208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248395211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: shaddup you < 1248395220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sounds crap = bad intonation; i was just getting the point across) < 1248395223 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, its probably not "bleh" < 1248395229 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it DOES lack an r/ < 1248395230 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1248395236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's more like "Blaih". < 1248395244 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its probably more [ble@] < 1248395248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, arrrr.ogg shuts up all you non-rhoters. < 1248395249 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or [blE@] < 1248395252 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: So, what you're saying is that it's about as bad as the Python's mock American accents? < 1248395262 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i'm rhotic, so. < 1248395262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: define it < 1248395268 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I LURVE when the Pythons mock American accents. < 1248395272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: is arrrr.ogg really lacking in /r/s? < 1248395273 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That = hilarious fun times for all? < 1248395277 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, didnt listen < 1248395279 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me a bit and i will < 1248395284 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does ehird say in that thing < 1248395288 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: arrrr.org < 1248395291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Britons omit Rs? Really?" < 1248395294 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1248395304 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to go make my blackboard. < 1248395305 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"britons are mi tords? really?" < 1248395306 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248395312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1248395313 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but right, ofc < 1248395348 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Does anybody actually pronounce "towards" as two syllables? <-- yes? < 1248395352 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least it's better than what I shall call (for lack of a better term) hyper-rhotic accents. < 1248395360 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Argh we've already established that I'm wrong here :P < 1248395396 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Southern accents are stunning in both the length and the amount of their r's. < 1248395407 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: listening < 1248395407 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurr hurr < 1248395455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: also it's more "britons are mit arse, really?" < 1248395475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about "r"... Isn't that RP to drop the r in some place? < 1248395477 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember while I was in Italy a very-international group including myself were talking, and we determined that Americans and Australians should have loud public conversations so that everybody else can say "well at least my accent isn't THAT offensive" < 1248395479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "are"? < 1248395483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but not "right" < 1248395485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1248395487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RP is kind of crap. < 1248395504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur can probably write in formal lingustic language what my accent is :-P < 1248395509 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, maybe, that is what they *try* to teach us learning English as a second language though < 1248395524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1248395525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1248395533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fine on like the BBC and stuff < 1248395534 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: going by your speech, yes. [br\It@nz omIt a`:z r\iIli] < 1248395540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not in to that whole upper-class bullshit :P < 1248395545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, he is l33t? < 1248395547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: so is that rhotic or not < 1248395551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAMPA looks like that < 1248395552 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I have two friends from Sweden (in particular); one omits 'r's and the other doesn't. The one who doesn't could probably be convincingly American if he changed up his emphasis a bit. < 1248395552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248395579 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its either a`:z or a_v:z < 1248395580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I know both too < 1248395583 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oklopol: also it's more "britons are mit arse, really?" <<< yes, i guess i just wanted the tords there. < 1248395583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why I said *try* < 1248395600 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its british rhotic. < 1248395607 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why is that? British taught in schools, but all the imported TV programs are American? < 1248395610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Which is uncommon or something? :P < 1248395617 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1248395628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, good summary < 1248395659 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just doesnt have a coda r, it has rhotic vowels. which is what you'd expect in a rhotic british dialect < 1248395660 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conclusions: Tobias learned English from books, Johan learned English from TV ;) < 1248395662 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like rhotic american dialects < 1248395671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Kay. < 1248395673 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real question is whether or not there is an r underlyingly or not < 1248395679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, hah < 1248395690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: So what is my accent, anyway? It's probably not southern, but it's far... blander than most northern ones, too. < 1248395696 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ehird, you're so adorable. < 1248395700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you can tell from one sample. < 1248395700 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts ehird on a keychain < 1248395701 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Hah. < 1248395706 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smacks augur. < 1248395707 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAD < 1248395707 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1248395710 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i dont know what your dialect is. im not a dialectologist. < 1248395711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, How the hell do you pronounce those names in English? I'd love to hear how you mess them up < 1248395717 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im a syntactician/semanticist < 1248395718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1248395725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won't mess them up as much as my name < 1248395730 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of british r's < 1248395732 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELSH. < 1248395734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: well fuck you, become a dialectologist :P < 1248395741 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Toe-bee-as, and Joe-han. :P < 1248395748 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the welsh accent has so many r's :o < 1248395755 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm too lazy for the IPA) < 1248395763 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, *snicker* *HAHA* *LOL* *ROFL* < 1248395784 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: America: mispronouncing names for 300 years. < 1248395789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, where did you get the "e" in "Joe-han" from? < 1248395789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Like this: http://filebin.ca/xkaxpj/tobiasandjohansittinginatrees-w-e-d-i-s-hing.ogg < 1248395791 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could've been worse < 1248395807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think it's fairly correct. < 1248395811 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tobias shouldn't be *that* different < 1248395811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: also. < 1248395811 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ... I'm saying it's pronounced like "Joe", the name. < 1248395826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I over-pronounced Tobias a bit, though. < 1248395830 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even start with the same character < 1248395832 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq < 1248395833 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefly: shouldnt you be smuggling cows? < 1248395834 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://filebin.ca/vyowo/TobiasJohan.ogg < 1248395844 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1248395844 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1248395852 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, your were cut off? < 1248395858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh was it < 1248395869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1248395872 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you're a culturally inept fool. :| < 1248395877 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1248395878 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, Joe-han is quite funny IMO < 1248395887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://filebin.ca/xkaxpj/tobiasandjohansittinginatrees-w-e-d-i-s-hing.ogg < 1248395890 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, drop the e sound and you would be closer < 1248395900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said Jo- instead of Yo- though. < 1248395901 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I pronounce an 'e' sound somewhere? < 1248395914 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he means joEhan? < 1248395915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, "Joe-han" yes < 1248395919 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-? < 1248395921 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... There's an actual "e" sound in "Joe"? < 1248395923 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swedishes ehird < 1248395925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes. < 1248395928 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English spelling is a fickle bitch. < 1248395930 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no theres no. < 1248395933 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ... No. < 1248395933 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not* < 1248395945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, ehird: Please sync your recording volume, I need to mess with replay gain to hear ehird while not getting my hearing broken by GregorR! < 1248395956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mic is just low-volume < 1248395960 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm trying to see where there could POSSIBLY be an 'e' sound here >_O < 1248395961 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Joe" does not have an "e" sound. < 1248395970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: http://filebin.ca/ttkeqx/fuckbutt.ogg < 1248395971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does so < 1248395974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: http://filebin.ca/xkaxpj/tobiasandjohansittinginatrees-w-e-d-i-s-hing.ogg <-- same as first tiem < 1248395975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time* < 1248395977 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it does not, ehird. < 1248395977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1248395979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's complete. < 1248395979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same link < 1248395980 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Bullshit. < 1248395985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248395986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1248395987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll reupload < 1248395993 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yours is even worse than GregorR's < 1248395993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ends at "tobias and joeh..."? < 1248396004 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, record your "Joe" for uss. < 1248396006 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say this knowing full-well how the name is pronounced, it being *my middle name*. < 1248396012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, i just finish it quickly < 1248396015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[like your mom] < 1248396018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: augur: http://filebin.ca/ttkeqx/fuckbutt.ogg < 1248396020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :already did < 1248396025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... There's an actual "e" sound in "Joe"? <-- well How would you prounonce it without the "e"? Like "Jo"? < 1248396029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in MY DIALECT, joe has an e < 1248396038 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes. < 1248396038 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1248396040 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i listened to that < 1248396044 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no "e" sound. < 1248396049 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Joe" and "Jo" are pronounced the same. "Jo" is a female name. < 1248396054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, duh. I meant how would you pronounce "Jo" < 1248396058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as "Joe"? < 1248396061 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1248396062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well your mom has no e sound < 1248396065 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1248396066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1248396067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1248396076 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well her name is "Michelle" so she has one. < 1248396078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I guess the quality of the o is wrong < 1248396085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i never said michelle i said "your mom" < 1248396090 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: do english speakers actually have a uniform definition for the "e" sound? < 1248396095 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Ha < 1248396096 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't record atm, people sleeping in the next room < 1248396096 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you did say "your mom" < 1248396099 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's a difference in the swedish and english o sound < 1248396101 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you didnt say it in quotes < 1248396113 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore it was a use of the terms not a reference to the phrase "your mom" < 1248396114 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: that was an actual question though :P < 1248396116 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English phonology is *also* a fickle bitch. < 1248396117 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore you're wrong. < 1248396124 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no, its not < 1248396124 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has 0 correlation with English spelling. < 1248396128 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the phonology isnt tricky < 1248396134 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spelling is ... meh. < 1248396135 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: No. Not even slightly. I don't have a clue which sound you refer to when you say 'e' sound. < 1248396138 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spelling is here and there. < 1248396145 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with english spelling today < 1248396148 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Could be 'eh', 'ee', even 'ae' < 1248396150 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that it makes PERFECT sense < 1248396154 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for english 1000 yers ago. < 1248396167 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Okay, yeah... The only tricky bit with English phonology is that there's rather a lot of phonemes. < 1248396174 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no theres not < 1248396176 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: ae as in ä? well i get your point anyway < 1248396180 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like back < 1248396181 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more than, say, finnish < 1248396184 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly certain Swedish has like a trillion more sounds than English :P < 1248396186 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or german < 1248396186 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some languages have it worse. Slavic languages. *shudder* < 1248396186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :english sucks :P < 1248396197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the worst language evar < 1248396201 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: english isnt all that bad in terms of phoneme inventory < 1248396202 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English rules. < 1248396207 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want a crazy phoneme inventory < 1248396209 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English rules because it has absolutely no regulating body. < 1248396210 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check out Ubykh < 1248396219 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Got a lot of words. < 1248396220 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 or 20 DISTINCT uvular sounds < 1248396231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :words are useless < 1248396236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need dynamically linked word libraries < 1248396240 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : GregorR: ae as in ä? well i get your point anyway <--- is that "mainland" Swedish ä or "finlandsvenskt" ä? < 1248396246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a difference iirce < 1248396248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc* < 1248396253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like preferring PHP because it has like 5,000 names in the main namespace < 1248396256 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I Recall Correctly Eclectically < 1248396256 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248396257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the difference for "o" sound is much larger < 1248396264 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not good with vowels. < 1248396268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe word FFIs < 1248396269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248396301 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me, augur, are you still interested in teaching me phonology < 1248396306 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure! < 1248396311 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phonetics and phonology < 1248396325 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, also i'd like you to help me with my crappy american accent < 1248396345 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant help you there. i mean, i can try, but im not an accent coach. < 1248396358 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i like your accent. :| < 1248396359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol: to pronounce the /O/ sound, you open your mouth wiiiiiiide, and then suck any dick that happens to come in < 1248396364 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Okay, the tricky bit with English is this: there is no mapping between phonemes and graphemes. < 1248396367 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: pretty true. < 1248396375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:46 augur: augur: pretty true. < 1248396376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, what about /ɧ/ < 1248396382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote augur: pretty true. < 1248396383 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :47| augur: pretty true. < 1248396383 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: theres some. its not as straightforward as finnish, say. < 1248396388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAN ANYONE BUT Swedes and Finns manage it? < 1248396391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think not < 1248396402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ɧ < 1248396403 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i respond to myself? < 1248396404 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. :D < 1248396406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ON IRC YOU CAN PRONOUNCE ANYTHING < 1248396407 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird* < 1248396407 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248396417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fail < 1248396421 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's quite a few more phonemes than letters. Which makes it hard to make a decent spelling system without breaking out the diacritics. < 1248396422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_palatal-velar_fricative < 1248396424 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF. I just went to download Schubert's Ave Maria, and instead I got the prayer put to his music??? < 1248396429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ɧ < 1248396430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1248396433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: xD < 1248396436 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: ... < 1248396443 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's rather stunning. < 1248396444 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Sx)] is debated. < 1248396447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as in: using your voice < 1248396450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and record it < 1248396458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ɧ < 1248396459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ɧ < 1248396460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, how sad < 1248396461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1248396464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, .... < 1248396467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "how sad"? < 1248396470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you are not funny < 1248396488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, what is that? < 1248396493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, the Sx one < 1248396507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you please write it in IPA or I can't understand you < 1248396513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I refuse to learn SAMPA) < 1248396572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refuse to learn English < 1248396578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please write it in Lojban or I can't understand you < 1248396583 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to congratulate Japanese on having a really simple phonology. < 1248396592 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I atteikties mÄcÄ«ties latvieÅ¡u valodÄ. < 1248396603 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: ... < 1248396613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, nice! < 1248396615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I would like to cancel out that congratulation of Japanese because it has a really complex everything else. < 1248396619 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipa:ɧ = ipa:ʃ͡x = sampa:Sx) < 1248396619 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, you know lojban? < 1248396626 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was Latvian :P < 1248396626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248396627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not lojban < 1248396633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_palatal-velar_fricative says "X-SAMPA x\" < 1248396634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol knows lojban though. well, bits. < 1248396639 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if that is relevant here < 1248396639 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it x\? < 1248396640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, i know a bit of lojban. < 1248396641 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1248396641 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bits and pieces < 1248396642 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing. < 1248396644 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: No, it has really rather simple grammar as well. < 1248396646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, oh? < 1248396647 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sx) = x\ < 1248396650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: apart from that :P < 1248396652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, anyway what do you mean debated? < 1248396658 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And its writing system is really nice except for the kanji. < 1248396664 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in many phoneticians dont think its actually real < 1248396665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojban is probably the easiest language to learn < 1248396676 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to learn Scots. < 1248396676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: kanji is a really stupid idea < 1248396677 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojban is ridiculous to learn :D < 1248396678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, I can easily pronounce the relevant sound. I don't know what you suggest it is instead < 1248396680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let's just have one letter... for EVERYTHING" < 1248396680 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And its vocabulary is not hard, aside from the honorifics. < 1248396681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: what, why? < 1248396688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned the basics and some vocab in a few days < 1248396697 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: im sure you can, but that doesnt mean its actually a simultaneous S and x < 1248396697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have been totally unable to learn any other language in my whole life < 1248396701 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: No harder than English. < 1248396708 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably DOES exist, i think, but thats irrelevant ;) < 1248396712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what isn't? < 1248396715 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why, because its incredibly unnatural < 1248396721 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Kanji. < 1248396727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no it's not < 1248396731 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is. < 1248396736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like the opinion of someone who's never used it < 1248396739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was easy for me < 1248396745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, but I know someone from Germany (who lived in Sweden since 1950 and is now about 70 years old) having problems with the sound. < 1248396745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't see the logical underpinnings most of the time < 1248396745 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, quite a bit simpler, because the symbols at least have something to do with the meaning. < 1248396746 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt matter how EASY it was < 1248396751 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its still unnatural. < 1248396759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so clearly it is not "They have very similar acoustic properties, not dissimilar from the /ç/ sound of southern Dutch or German ch after e or i, and feature distinct labialization" the same as that < 1248396761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: unnatural is such a stupid fucking way to dis something < 1248396764 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: irrelevant. < 1248396764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's living in a house < 1248396767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's using a computer < 1248396773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's doing all the fucking stuff we do < 1248396775 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, its not a dis. its just a statement of fact. < 1248396780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: then why is learning lojban silly < 1248396783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i dispute that it's unnatural < 1248396784 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i find it much more natural than finnish < 1248396786 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or english < 1248396787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just UNFAMILIAR < 1248396789 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its unnatural, and not incredibly easy to learn. < 1248396794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, how so? Wouldn't it indicate it isn't the same sound < 1248396799 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1248396805 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural languages are simply crap < 1248396805 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you can dispute that its unnatural. you're still wrong. < 1248396805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur — pioneer of argument by because-I-said-so < 1248396814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also arbiter of all that is natural < 1248396825 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, pioneer of "i'm actually familiar with the typological distribution of syntactic properties and you're not" < 1248396835 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a linguiÅ¿t. I'd þink þat he'd know þeÅ¿e Å¿orts of þings. < 1248396842 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humans are a part of nature. Everything we produce is therefore by definition natural. In fact, there is nothing unnatural in existence, by definition. Period. < 1248396843 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1248396851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because we all know that when learning and using languages, we think subconsciously about the typological distribution of syntactic properties < 1248396853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: think and that have different sounds < 1248396858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is what makes languages natural or not < 1248396860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED < 1248396862 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Ah, all-natural cyanide. :) < 1248396873 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well cyanide is CERTAINLY natural. < 1248396875 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: And in English, þ = th. < 1248396877 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, but those typological distributions come about because of inherent cognitive biases < 1248396886 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cyanide is natural by any definition. < 1248396887 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :biases that you cant get around. < 1248396896 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyanide is produced in apple seeds :o < 1248396899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That in Old English and other Germanic languages, þ and ð are different doesn't change that in English, we just use þ. < 1248396900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: strange, then, that tons of people who have used lojban didn't feel anything was odd about it at all < 1248396903 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bitter almonds. < 1248396904 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oddly, it smells like almond, not apple. < 1248396904 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when it's still used. :)) < 1248396906 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1248396906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and didn't seem to have some huge mental blockage < 1248396906 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: sorry, i just see random crap, though they were phonemes of some sort :) < 1248396913 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol: And in English, th = th. <-- uh yeah? < 1248396915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: strange, then, that there are people who can think fluently in lojban < 1248396925 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Thorn. < 1248396928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, the typological distributions! clearly we all secretly hate lojban and it's so unnatural < 1248396930 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: theres a difference between being able to use it, and being able to use it naturally. < 1248396934 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a huge difference. < 1248396935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I know :P < 1248396941 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaÅ¿ter: Your Å¿cript is dumb, BTW. < 1248396949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: there are multiple people who are fluent in lojban. there are people who can think in lojban without translation (1 or 2, I think) < 1248396955 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: err, so are you saying think and that have the same sound, or that your character just meant the same as the english th, that is, both? < 1248396958 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can be fluent in lojban < 1248396960 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats fine < 1248396966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you're ignoring my second clause < 1248396969 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluency is not the same as speaking it natively. < 1248396974 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I'm saying that the two different phonemes are written with the same character. < 1248396979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any language you can think in without translation does not have a mental blockage < 1248396988 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: It's the letter thorn, BTW. < 1248396993 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: right, i can't really keep up with this much talk :P < 1248396993 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Also, get you some UTF-8. < 1248396993 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt say it would, ehird < 1248396994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, why? < 1248396995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mental blockage that has no effects and is completely unobservable is an invisible pink unicorn < 1248397000 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It comes up in this channel a *lot*. < 1248397002 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you dont understand what i mean < 1248397010 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it should be on, but i can't get mirc to obey me. < 1248397020 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, just to satisfy you tho < 1248397024 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: And there's your first failure. < 1248397026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you haven't defined what's natural and why apart from using theoretics; you haven't provided any reason for why this mental blockage has never shown up < 1248397027 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill take a look at lojban grammar < 1248397036 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1248397037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no reason to consider what you say reasonable < 1248397043 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt say anything about mental blockage < 1248397049 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did. < 1248397053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said it was unnatural and went against built-in cognitive biases < 1248397056 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Should be fun. Human language with regular grammar? :D < 1248397056 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248397065 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not the same as a "mental blockage" < 1248397066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we have wildly differing definitions of cognitive biases; yours involves them doing nothing at all < 1248397071 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: mirc? it's my only failure, you silly goof < 1248397071 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i doubt that lojban is regular. < 1248397083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a yacc parser < 1248397084 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Erm. Context-free. < 1248397085 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And XD < 1248397086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, it can be parsed with yacc < 1248397094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : :slowpoke: < 1248397094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, so yes it is < 1248397096 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its official grammar is written in BNF. < 1248397100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ? < 1248397105 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That makes it context-free, not regular. < 1248397107 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: uh. yacc isnt a regular language parser tho is it < 1248397110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:58 ehird: it has a yacc parser […] 00:58 AnMaster: augur, it can be parsed with yacc < 1248397116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it's a programming language parser < 1248397117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, oh indeed. Too tired... < 1248397119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :machine-usable < 1248397122 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so? < 1248397128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just saying < 1248397129 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Btw, re:cyanide and almonds: The common myth (or actually true statement that's so wildly misunderstood that it may as well be a myth) is that cyanide tastes like bitter almonds. The truth is that A) bitter almonds are a separate but related nut to almonds and B) bitter almonds taste like cyanide because THEY'RE FULL OF F***ING CYANIDE < 1248397130 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that got to do with anything < 1248397144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, different timing here < 1248397152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: multiple seconds < 1248397152 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you do know regular grammars are a very specific concept? < 1248397156 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yacc does context-free grammars (and a few non-context-free grammars with some fiddling), not regular. ;) < 1248397161 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would wager that lojban is not context free < 1248397162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes < 1248397164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just noting < 1248397165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, your timestamps includes no seconds... < 1248397169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: correct < 1248397193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so it is clearly another exaggeration, since you love them so < 1248397200 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was one second before here < 1248397222 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1248397225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two-three seconds for me < 1248397227 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you fluent in lojban < 1248397228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it was a joke < 1248397229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so stfu < 1248397236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, exact numbers please? < 1248397238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no. i want to be and it is a goal of mine < 1248397242 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1248397243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: my client doesn't record it so tough shit < 1248397253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you fail indeed. Tough shit < 1248397254 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i would bet that there are non-CF aspects of lojban < 1248397264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : WAAH STOP MAKING JOKES I'M SO INSECURE < 1248397268 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: why would it be ridiculous to learn a language that is not natural? < 1248397273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it has a yacc parser, and yacc does context-free grammar < 1248397274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um what? < 1248397283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how was that funny to begin with < 1248397287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: anyway, when learning simple lojban it was as smooth as butter and never felt unnatural. coming from someone who's never been able to learn languages < 1248397288 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, augur, there are variables, maybe using undefined variables is wrong and non-cf. < 1248397295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Stop it stop it stop it I must reassert myself < 1248397302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what does "slowpoke" even mean? < 1248397309 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: stupido < 1248397311 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: its not impossible, its just that natural biases tend to push us to analyze things in a particular way and certain specific aspects are INCREDIBLY difficult to get around < 1248397312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was my original question implied by "?" < 1248397312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::slowpoke: = http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/slowpoke.gif < 1248397314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slowpoke = slow < 1248397318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a pokemans < 1248397327 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, and what does *that* mean < 1248397329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1248397331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.answers.com/slowpoke < 1248397342 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: simple lojban is not likely to be unnatural ;) < 1248397352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: but there isn't any complex lojban! < 1248397359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just simple, slightly less simple, and you go on to learning the vocab < 1248397364 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then its not a fully expressing language! < 1248397366 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right, not really directly related to stupidity < 1248397371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it is! < 1248397375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just piece shit together < 1248397378 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just assumed it was an insult < 1248397381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the words are all quite short, so < 1248397385 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats irrelevant ehird < 1248397387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "One that moves, works, or acts slowly." <-- as in "considers his moves, doesn't act rashly"? < 1248397388 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im talking about syntax. < 1248397399 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, or as in "stupid"? < 1248397403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: lol < 1248397408 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how does lojban constraint unbounded dependencies < 1248397418 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i'd need to know what you mean by natural biases < 1248397420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Fuck. Fuck he called me a slowpoke. I must reassert myself. So insecure. Ahem. Okay. Let's respin this, uhh, let's look it up. < 1248397421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, both ways to interpret it seems possible < 1248397423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: wtf does that mean < 1248397424 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a sec while I hand you the formal grammar. < 1248397426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: neither. < 1248397429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means slowpoke. < 1248397439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: btw, you know that #lojban is, for a large part, conversed in lojban? < 1248397443 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it means non-local argument filling. < 1248397446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hah. Recursive definitions sucks. :/ < 1248397447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without any difficulty < 1248397448 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter21.html Yacc and Backus-Naur form. < 1248397451 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, none of that matters < 1248397457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you mean like skipping an argument to a predicate sort of thing? < 1248397460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah lojban has that. < 1248397473 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: im not sure if thats quite what i mean. i'd have to see what _you_ mean < 1248397478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also what are those impersonations things on about?... < 1248397489 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean things like question words, or topicalization, or parasitic gapping < 1248397489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't even close to what I think < 1248397490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i'm making fun of you. < 1248397509 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh is it that. I thought you were just being silly... < 1248397510 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i don't think it constraints them < 1248397513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: drives(Guy, OtherGuy ToPlace). vs drives(Guy, OtherGuy, AwesomeCar, ToPlace). < 1248397514 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*constrains < 1248397522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: "non-local argument filling" < 1248397524 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not that at all. < 1248397526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can skip about the argument list to the predicates < 1248397528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: what, then < 1248397529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, please wake me up when you arrive at the "fun" bit of it. < 1248397535 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like < 1248397537 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, probably don't understand the question < 1248397542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ooh you're going? awesome! < 1248397543 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Read the formal grammar instead of asking ehird. ;) < 1248397548 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i will :P < 1248397550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no, don't < 1248397553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the yacc is autogenerated < 1248397557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has names like RRR_49df_d < 1248397561 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: There's also BNF. < 1248397566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1248397569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur's asking about semantics < 1248397573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bnf just parses the syntactical tree < 1248397576 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no, im not < 1248397578 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up for a second. < 1248397579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah, but the risk of falling asleep when talking to you isn't insignificant in the best of situations... < 1248397581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the predicate/argument/etc is part of the semantics, au < 1248397582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: < 1248397585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of the syntax < 1248397587 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's asking about syntax. < 1248397593 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You suck at this. < 1248397608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know linguistic terms, okay? < 1248397610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't expect me to read minds < 1248397631 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :text is a very unnatural media for interactive conversations when you're tired says i. < 1248397641 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1248397647 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in english you have things like parasitic gaps like so: < 1248397657 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*medium) < 1248397659 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: A never-ending flood of linguistics is bad regardless of all else :P < 1248397661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: do you know any curses in lojban? < 1248397667 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is the article_i that Mary filed t_i without reading t_i" < 1248397679 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that's one of lojban's weak spots imo < 1248397687 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where t_i is a marker that denotes a lack of a symbol < 1248397691 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you usually use mabla, and attach it to other stuff < 1248397698 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bad" < 1248397701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i think lojban has shit like that < 1248397703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask oklopol < 1248397708 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, if it does, its not CF! < 1248397710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really know much lojban < 1248397715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: well who cares :P < 1248397717 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ill read this grammar for now <3 < 1248397724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, http://perpetuum-immobile.de/komo.png is still funny < 1248397741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only because it's so hard to translate < 1248397744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it goes something like: < 1248397756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tell me what you will do to me [but also a command of that doing]" < 1248397759 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248397759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol: A never-ending flood of linguistics is bad regardless of all else :P <-- "head on" I believe the idiom is < 1248397765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. do something then tell me what it is you did < 1248397774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then some emotion thingy < 1248397778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he hits the other guy < 1248397781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he says "hit" < 1248397782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1248397786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not actually funny < 1248397786 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: nothing says "me" is the object < 1248397793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ah right < 1248397798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, you laugh once you've translated it < 1248397802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because otherwise it'd be wasted effort < 1248397811 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that grammar is unreadable. < 1248397814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the field of lojban humour is not well developed. < 1248397817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i told you so < 1248397823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not for human consumption < 1248397837 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248397839 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will look at the learn-lojban thing and try to translate it into normal linguistics. < 1248397849 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Good to know. < 1248397863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: lojban is awesome regardless of how unnatural it is anyway < 1248397867 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN WHILE YOU CAN < 1248397871 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: maybe! < 1248397883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN ON TO A CAN < 1248397897 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN INTO A TRASH CAN < 1248397903 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I make a cheap flash drive not break when I take it out? < 1248397904 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN TO THE HILLS < 1248397911 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN 'ROUND THE MILLS < 1248397917 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i don't really like lojban *that* much, it just feels too human-compatible imo < 1248397920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN TO THE FILLS < 1248397925 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN FOR YOUR LIFE < 1248397927 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN 'TIL YOU GET CHILLS < 1248397927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN AND THEN KILL < 1248397932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN AS PER THE DRILL < 1248397937 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd just like math + a few words for defining physical objects and a few mental processes < 1248397938 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a language in sexps. < 1248397942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BILL < 1248397949 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN AND DON'T BE STILL < 1248397952 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i ever mentioned how much i hate numetal? < 1248397953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248397953 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION saw a Phoenix Wrong where there was "Run to the hills. Run for your life" < 1248397957 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP THIS MEME NOW? < 1248397962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: NO < 1248397966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH DAMN < 1248397966 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: a phoenix wrong? < 1248397967 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: STOP THIS MEME HOW? < 1248397968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RUN LEST THEY MAKE YOU TAKE YOUR PILL < 1248397969 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: No. But it's worth hating. < 1248397975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, no you... < 1248397980 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what? < 1248397989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: mathematics + bayesian probability + utilitarianism + a few things like does(Agent,Thing) and stuff < 1248397991 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numetal. < 1248397994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := mathtalk! < 1248397996 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, youtube it < 1248397997 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION listens to Quadrophenia happily < 1248397999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojmath < 1248398028 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you need the physical objects. < 1248398050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but that's all subjective < 1248398056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need functions for experience < 1248398057 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean vectors mostly < 1248398061 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYPyOIaLdTU < 1248398065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bayes + utilitarianism handles most the rest < 1248398073 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: im willing to bet that IF lojban is actually completely naturalistic < 1248398074 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nsfw language and themes occasionally) < 1248398081 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that its run of the mill in how its naturalistic. < 1248398083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: this imposes a system of morality that nobody actually goes by it 100% on your speakers) < 1248398097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no, oklopol is just ridiculously unnatural :D < 1248398116 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it's better than natural languages in any case < 1248398127 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: probably not! < 1248398148 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: how does an iron maiden lyric figure in with phoenix wright? < 1248398148 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually just learn natural languages' vocab, the rest is boring < 1248398159 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: thats because you dont know much about the rest! < 1248398160 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want Yu Wan Mei Miscellaneous Flavor Paste :( < 1248398163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur is just a fetishist for crappy, crufty old languages < 1248398166 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural language syntax and semantics is awesome < 1248398172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: get the Device, I'm sure it can manufacture it for you < 1248398183 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I don't have that kind o' scratch! < 1248398185 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :far more complicated and interesting than computer language syntax and semantics :o < 1248398189 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1248398191 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a side note: The Who is a great band. < 1248398195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: the device can print money < 1248398199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have to have faith < 1248398214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really like the who < 1248398215 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i'm saying they are not interesting to use; they would be interesting to learn if they were taught properly. < 1248398217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what is "the Device"? < 1248398222 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You have no taste. < 1248398227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the Yu Wan Mei Device, of course. < 1248398231 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You hate rock. < 1248398233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been completed and is now available for sale. < 1248398236 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, the languages themselves are actually pretty meh. its the properties of Language thats awesome < 1248398236 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but languages are rarely taught rigorously enough for my taste < 1248398237 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for that, you die. < 1248398239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what does it do < 1248398245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i love rock, I just don't really like the who < 1248398249 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, the same that the Simpsons have to do with Phoenix Wright < 1248398252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It has the following features: < 1248398258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1248398259 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: right now we're speaking the same language < 1248398259 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would love to see a polysynthetic programming language < 1248398259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1248398260 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x3 < 1248398260 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Why not? < 1248398276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: for $4,250.99 you get this stylish device: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20090720/yuwanmei_device_large.jpg < 1248398281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :allow me to find the list of features < 1248398288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes... < 1248398303 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION STILL wants Miscellaneous Flavor Paste! < 1248398321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Device features include: < 1248398321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digital counter starting at 999,999,999 < 1248398322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patented random ticking mechanism < 1248398324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :High quality audio Chinese Anthem on infinite loop < 1248398326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Video projector of our great and illustrious Chinese leaders < 1248398328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antenna < 1248398330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heat generator < 1248398332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sharp edges honed from Chinese sword master < 1248398334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red blinking lights, randomly accompanied by loud siren noise < 1248398336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Requires 12 AA batteries, 4 D batteries, 7 AAA batteries. < 1248398345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err okay < 1248398353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* GregorR STILL wants Miscellaneous Flavor Paste! <-- link < 1248398358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Did you know it's fish time? < 1248398372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://www.yuwanmei.com/products#8 < 1248398374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ flavor paste < 1248398375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, isn't it a bit dark for that (at least here) < 1248398394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed that was a typo for "fishing" < 1248398395 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://store.theonion.com/yu-wan-mei-miscellaneous-tasty-paste-p-1020.html < 1248398397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No. ROBUSTNESS IS UNAVOIDABLE with Yu Wan Mei fish products. < 1248398408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/content/news/american_consumer_masses_agree_it < 1248398412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The American Consumer Masses agree. < 1248398417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray for Yu Wan Mei! < 1248398433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err whatever < 1248398442 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I would not < 1248398444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this will make more sense when I wake up < 1248398450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I'm going to bed anyway < 1248398455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, you must read it! < 1248398455 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun < 1248398461 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster will wake up covered in Miscellaneous Tasty Paste. < 1248398465 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then he will go ":/" < 1248398467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It is from the reputable newspaper the Onion, a subsidiary of Yu Wan Me corporation! < 1248398470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Mei < 1248398473 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Not what? < 1248398482 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like to see a polysynthetic programming language < 1248398488 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248398493 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you telling me that? < 1248398497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polygamous programming language! < 1248398504 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he failed < 1248398507 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, that was augur < 1248398512 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augour: I would not < 1248398547 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: why not? :( < 1248398557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Augy. < 1248398565 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like polysynthetic languages to start with < 1248398580 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: too esoteric? :D < 1248398591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:20 neptunepink: coi < 1248398592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:21 Xiin: coi < 1248398593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#lojban are very coy. < 1248398596 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no, just annoying < 1248398609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there're my British organisation-is-a-group leanings showing up. < 1248398612 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: why annoying? :| < 1248398615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is-its-member < 1248398616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1248398618 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like words, thanks < 1248398620 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads Interstella 5555 < 1248398628 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, polysynthetic languages have words! < 1248398628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it sucks < 1248398632 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just bigger ones. < 1248398640 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they have /word/ :P < 1248398654 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they have words < 1248398660 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It's awesome. Ehird is incapable of music appreciation. < 1248398662 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :often you only need one or two < 1248398663 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1248398671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I like Daft Punk. < 1248398674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not like the film. < 1248398682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No, I really like Daft Punk.) < 1248398693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/music/anime/ < 1248398727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well gee, clearly a few half-assed music videos pieced together is the standard on which all anime is based on. < 1248398730 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is absolutely no situation in which " s/music/anime/" makes sense :P < 1248398733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I apologise profusely. < 1248398747 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh, the only anime I've ever watched was Death Note < 1248398755 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ... < 1248398757 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ... < 1248398769 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: ... < 1248398777 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehird shows massive misunderstanding. < 1248398782 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, that's just sad. < 1248398783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :... http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1248398787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "ehird", please. < 1248398797 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliot, then. < 1248398798 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EHird < 1248398802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: < 1248398805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Elliott". < 1248398827 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SGeo < 1248398830 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, fine. Ellɨoṫṫ. < 1248398841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurf durf. < 1248398847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crossing is and dotting ts etc. < 1248398857 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ëëlliööt < 1248398864 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would capitalize pikhq similarly, but doesn't see any portions of eir real name in their < 1248398866 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1248398867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a jewnicode chracter for "etc.". < 1248398879 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"jewnicode"? < 1248398886 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jewish Unicode < 1248398888 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: My real name is Josiah Worcester. < 1248398893 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No real name within. < 1248398896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: His name is Phil Iklïx Huqiäa. < 1248398906 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mother's maiden name is Wertheimer ... < 1248398911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ Phil IKlïx HuQiäa. < 1248398916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ pikhq. < 1248398944 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Incorrect. < 1248398958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shush, I just wanted an excuse to make up some nice words. < 1248398964 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name uses every phoneme. < 1248398973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iklïx is pronounced "ihcleech", I think. < 1248398975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch as in Bach. < 1248398996 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bach" as in bachelor < 1248399009 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: everyone phoneme of what language < 1248399021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huqiäa is, I think, "huckuiuah". < 1248399026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the "ck" is softer. < 1248399033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, < 1248399035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huqiäa is, I think, "huckuiooah". < 1248399038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meant u as in oo < 1248399045 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: ALL OF THEME. < 1248399048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: amirite about both of them? < 1248399053 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very hard to pronounce. :P < 1248399057 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :o < 1248399067 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that phonemes are purely abstract concepts? < 1248399073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Worcester is easy for those who have had worcester source :P < 1248399073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1248399079 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its not possible to say that two languages have the same phoneme? < 1248399081 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Not for USians. < 1248399086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :orly < 1248399090 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Yes. < 1248399095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1248399114 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It's commonly pronounced worchester sauce. < 1248399116 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1248399121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i used to do that yeah < 1248399122 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Facepalms all around. < 1248399124 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq what < 1248399134 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not worchester or even worcester sauce < 1248399138 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Disk Usage Analyzer, /host is taking up 100% of the space in /host < 1248399140 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its worcestershire sauce. < 1248399141 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I know. < 1248399148 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1248399164 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its pronounced /wUstIS@r/ :| < 1248399179 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, I know that. < 1248399183 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1248399190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://filebin.ca/equugx/pickheadquarters.ogg Easy to pronounce. :P < 1248399193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disk Usage Analyzer < 1248399194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1248399195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1248399208 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: XD < 1248399213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1248399217 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[pixq] isnt hard to pronounce :o < 1248399226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: < 1248399242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:29 ehird: Iklïx is pronounced "ihcleech", I think. < 1248399242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:29 ehird: ch as in Bach. < 1248399243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:30 ehird: Huqiäa is, I think, "huckuiooah". < 1248399245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:30 ehird: But the "ck" is softer. < 1248399247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amirite? < 1248399250 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peek-eich-queue. Pronounced similarly to "Pikachu". < 1248399254 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I was 8 at the time. < 1248399258 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what that means, ehird < 1248399265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: don't know what means < 1248399283 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ihcleech" and so forth. < 1248399284 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1248399298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try to record < 1248399370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: if you cross-reference this with my hooked-on-phonics-esque descriptions, you should be able to get an idea of what I mean: < 1248399373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://filebin.ca/kycrxx/dsfdf.ogg < 1248399394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering how the hell you pronounce Phil Iklïx Huqiäa :D < 1248399494 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1248399547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur < 1248399554 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounded a lot like [Iqlix xujuV] [ɪqlix xujuÊŒ] < 1248399573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what that means, i'm just trying to figure out how you pronounce Iklïx Huqiäa < 1248399585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where x is Bach-ch and ¨ is umlaut < 1248399606 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x is indeed german ch digraph < 1248399607 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: why isn't it just a k? < 1248399620 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but umlaut by itself is kind of senseless < 1248399625 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it just sounded like q, thats all. < 1248399635 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what's q? :P < 1248399637 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be k. < 1248399640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: well ï is ee, I think, and I think ä is oo < 1248399642 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :q is uvular, k is velar. < 1248399647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but whatever < 1248399651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pronounce Phil Iklïx Huqiäa! < 1248399661 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll look those up < 1248399664 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know how to pronounce it because i dont know what orthography! < 1248399664 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm lost < 1248399675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: whatever feels right! < 1248399681 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bob". < 1248399684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly english i guess < 1248399693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the exception of the umlauted letters and the x < 1248399695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the q < 1248399696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1248399702 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: okay i agree < 1248399725 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure you're interested in my professional opinion < 1248399740 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1248399743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you should become a professional professional < 1248399753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your only purpose is to mention you're a professional and thus dispense professional advice/opinions/etc < 1248399764 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :today im going to be writing the part of my Grammar tutorials thats on Categorial Grammar < 1248399773 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what part is that? < 1248399781 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not 2, then you haven't kept me updated < 1248399783 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably the kind thats most akin to lambda calculus youll get < 1248399790 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its part 9 i think :P < 1248399792 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again i've been offline, so i'll forgive you < 1248399802 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, link when you have the times < 1248399804 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*time < 1248399808 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wellnowwhat.net/blog < 1248399826 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not now! < 1248399827 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll blog you you faggot < 1248399831 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not even dressed. < 1248399835 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah: please dont. < 1248399839 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: even better :D < 1248399844 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pics plz :D < 1248399856 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. if pikhq is pikhq, maybe i could be pikplz :o < 1248399861 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh. but i'm dirty. < 1248399862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: pronounce you bitch :| < 1248399866 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont know how < 1248399871 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably go to sleep. < 1248399872 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so? >3 < 1248399880 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dirty boys are sexy boys < 1248399883 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pikplz" is pronounced akin to "pickles" < 1248399892 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: :D < 1248399892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :big balls < 1248399894 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe pikpzl < 1248399910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i always this gay? < 1248399917 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brbrbrb < 1248399925 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: You should be? :P < 1248399931 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, i've always thought of myself as a rather asexual being. < 1248399949 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1248399953 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : except for all that porno! < 1248399963 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a quote < 1248399968 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NORLY!? :P < 1248399976 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thanks for reminding me < 1248399982 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to put my dl's back on < 1248400003 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Lame. < 1248400012 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is lame? < 1248400020 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :downloading? :D < 1248400023 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go for pansexual. < 1248400042 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well asexual was irony for pansexual < 1248400057 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\m/ < 1248400069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "Bisexuality is a sexual orientation characterized by attraction to both the same gender and the opposite gender. Unlike pansexuality, it does not specifically include people who fall outside the gender binary. " < 1248400071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's stoopid < 1248400073 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb building my blackboard < 1248400078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody means bisexual to mean "ONLY male or ONLY female" < 1248400081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ "/"/ < 1248400127 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't like both genders, but consider anything between sick and wrong? < 1248400127 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bisexual" is "pansexual", but a term people actually know. < 1248400143 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1248400145 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought pansexual was like, you can have sex with a potato < 1248400160 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Anybody CAN have sex with a potato. < 1248400162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, sex with a pan. < 1248400163 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: That would be phytophilia. < 1248400166 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean get aroused by it < 1248400166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pan-sexual. < 1248400168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simple. < 1248400170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm going to become an "actual" bisexual to piss off people who say "pansexual". < 1248400176 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: But no, the phrase for that is "Idaho native" < 1248400176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're the most manly man ever, <3. < 1248400177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you < 1248400181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'re the most girl girl ever, <3. < 1248400186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're anything in-between — < 1248400188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means all of you — < 1248400193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate you with the passion of a thousand fiery suns. < 1248400197 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives ehird a transgender surgery < 1248400207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What? < 1248400208 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :potato was just an example, in case you didn't realize that, < 1248400212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sexuality isn't linked to gender. < 1248400213 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably didn't. < 1248400214 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Note: Most people are not sexually attracted to themselves :P < 1248400234 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. < 1248400246 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. < 1248400247 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :48| i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. < 1248400250 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: That's autophilia. < 1248400253 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Done. < 1248400259 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :autophilia? < 1248400266 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that about liking yourself < 1248400268 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Sex with cars. < 1248400271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autophilia is liking— < 1248400273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1248400276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248400282 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248400283 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metrosexuality is sex with buses. < 1248400283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sexwithcars.org/ is an actual forum with real people who think that. < 1248400298 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: out of a plank != out of yourself < 1248400301 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1248400301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the ever famous: http://blackroses.textfiles.com/sex/sex-cars.faq < 1248400308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dekhy Dragon's Guide to Sex with Cars (for males)! < 1248400310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Dekhyr < 1248400317 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: O.O' < 1248400319 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting an erection out of looking into the mirror is physically *much* easier < 1248400324 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`google "dolphinsex.org" < 1248400324 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT INTERNET. < 1248400324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Includes a section on how to have two people fucking the car at the same time.) < 1248400325 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.dolphinsex.org/ - [14]Cached - [15]Similar \ 2. [16]No Loitering: Dolphin Sex Lives < 1248400330 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that either is what i'd normally enjoy on a sunday evening. < 1248400333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just go around asking people whether they fuck cars! < 1248400334 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's back up at its original domain? :P < 1248400337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Old < 1248400346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, squatted < 1248400349 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1248400355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My google history: sexwithcars, dekhyr's guide to fucking cars, sex with dolphins < 1248400358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FBI looooooves me. < 1248400362 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was this doc about a guy who fucked cars < 1248400363 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1248400381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.geocities.com/karnautrahl/ ↠Sex With Cars 2: Electric Boogaloo; from the guy who brought you the forum sexwithcars.org. < 1248400388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best part: http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlover/1873405308/ < 1248400392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A picture of a dragon fucking a car. < 1248400400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean why not, right < 1248400401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1248400407 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so I'm going to have to listen to Five Iron Frenzy 2: Electric Boogaloo after this. < 1248400417 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: not actually their second album) < 1248400418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just keep all these links around for when I wanna gross people out.) < 1248400437 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird : The original picture is better < 1248400439 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also-note: yes, that is the album's name) < 1248400445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: which < 1248400482 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's from that series of pictures that furryguy did < 1248400493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The engine was running still and I could feel the vibrations running through as if she was panting in heat. In heat for me Her rear end was slightly lower than normal-her wheels had sunk up to the hubcaps. Now I did not need to stand on tip toe to screw her tailpipe- she wanted me that much that she had lowered it down for me. I had to bend my knees slightly to reach though. First I knelt down and gently smelt her pipes while the engine was running-she s < 1248400495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :melled hot-I had to be carefull here though I enjoyed the smell and taste of her engine as well but I could not sit here forever enjoying her horny musk. The bodywork was giving off a delicous aroma of hot, wet and muddy metal and rubber. I was intoxicated by her miasma. I could not wait much longer- I had to have her. The new tailpipes were specially shaped so that I could screw her as hard and as fast as I wanted to without worrying about cuts and abra < 1248400500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sions. They were smooth inside and as specified were just slightly small. I lubricated myself on with a little saliva that was all. I inserted the head of my penis into the entry to her tailpipe-I could feel the warm exhaust gases pushing against my cock. She had four to choose from so there was no real danger of excessive pressure. I kissed her slowly as I pushed into her against some resistance. < 1248400505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— http://www.geocities.com/karnautrahl/Katie.html < 1248400507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's really no word. < 1248400509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :words. < 1248400514 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT INTERNET < 1248400533 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh, the car is all dirty < 1248400537 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like a dirty car < 1248400542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The forums were fucking crazy when they were public; those guys seem to actually think that the car wants sex and "consents" to it. < 1248400561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of Ford's main design goals for the Model T was fuckability and horniness! < 1248400564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think the horn's for? < 1248400572 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For horniness < 1248400573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honk honk. < 1248400590 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248400597 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... < 1248400599 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248400606 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO HUMANS. < 1248400608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Technically speaking it's not a man who has sex with cars. As I'm one such I know my subject. An autophile is in love with him or herself sexually. So I'm stuffed for a good word to use (apart from the often heard, insane, crazy, etc). The only alternative I've heard is automobiliphilia. Quite a mouthful, more than the gearknob of a Jaguar XJ8 so probably won't be popular.]] < 1248400620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— Karnautrahl, the author of that Katie thing. < 1248400625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me, < 1248400626 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: HOMOPHILE! < 1248400634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is he implying he fellates gearknobs? < 1248400639 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Very strongly. < 1248400643 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: And quite bluntly. < 1248400646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL ME NOW < 1248400678 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think it's a human, it's not that weird < 1248400681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just gay < 1248400685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don' < 1248400686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1248400695 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: If you think it's a human, that's weird :P < 1248400701 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think it's a car, then yes, might be kinda hard to like it < 1248400702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that. < 1248400704 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for most < 1248400713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gearsticks are permanently "hard". ;-) < 1248400724 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, are there any compuphiles? < 1248400736 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a doc about one < 1248400745 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O' < 1248400746 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`google sex with computers < 1248400748 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Sex Are Computers? A language instructor was explaining to her class that in French, nouns unlike their English counterparts, are grammatically ... \ jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/9791.htm - [15]Cached - [16]Similar < 1248400753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://videogum.com/archives/trailer/control-alt-delete-the_022701.html < 1248400753 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to ask. < 1248400754 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah < 1248400757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control Alt Delete, a "technosexual comedy" about a programmer so stressed out about fixing the Y2K bug that he starts having sex with computers, premiered at the Toronto Film Festival last week and got a distributor. While the "computer rape accusation" scene is humorous, I'm not sure this is going to be the next Office Space: < 1248400758 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: dude had a relationship with a dude via computer, after relationship ended, he just continued with his laptop < 1248400773 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ... < 1248400780 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to watch a lot of these < 1248400793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches the trailer < 1248400804 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE. COULD WE AT LEAST AGREE ON WHAT SPECIES TO HAVE SEX WITH. < 1248400835 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: First you have to get everybody to agree with having sex with /living things/. Or at leas organic things? < 1248400840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha is he actually going to fuck the computer < 1248400844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he is < 1248400847 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Good point. < 1248400879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is so wtf. < 1248400880 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :balloons aren't alive, and they are very popular < 1248400881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys, click my link < 1248400886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He fucks computers. Like, really. < 1248400892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as are shoes, but that's about humans mostly. < 1248400895 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: THIS IS WHY I AM NOT CLICKING YOUR LINK < 1248400907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: It's just a trailer, it's SFW (it only has human porn) :-P < 1248400923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1248400925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he fucked a datacenter < 1248400928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some hardcore shit < 1248400943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...then the world explodes < 1248400967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now I'm traumatised for life. < 1248400968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray. < 1248400974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Hooray. < 1248401113 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers are complex things, shouldn't be hard to get off to them < 1248401125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex with fans (the spinning kind) < 1248401128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: this only works once < 1248401139 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also easy to develop accidentally, as many masturbate in front of them day after day anyway < 1248401156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :steve jobs prolly tells his designers to make macs look sexual < 1248401162 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously i think i'm a bit too tired < 1248401168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1248401173 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well macs have very female forms < 1248401180 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're curvy wurvy < 1248401210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehehehehehehe < 1248401216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.apple.com/macpro/images/overview_hero1_20090309.png < 1248401222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the holes are sized specifically to fit Jobs' penis < 1248401226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that tiny < 1248401251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes he masturbates it, instead: http://images.apple.com/macpro/images/overview_hero2_20090303.png < 1248401296 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, found a bit < 1248401299 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/3d/Dragonsandcars01_top.jpg < 1248401311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha awesome < 1248401334 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very animal-looking penis < 1248401342 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would've expected a dragon to have a human penis < 1248401348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1248401361 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, maybe it's just me < 1248401386 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean in a comic < 1248401392 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not an actual dragon of course < 1248401406 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those naturally have animal penises < 1248401456 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food is probably a good substitute for sleep -> < 1248401563 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Only caffeine. < 1248401617 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :caffeine seems to make me sleepy at first, the only thing it does nowadays is make it harder to actually fall asleep < 1248401626 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1248401630 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should it make you sleepy at first? < 1248401639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda < 1248401650 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean often after i drink a few cups, i'm ready for a nap. < 1248401763 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get that too. As if the body is trying to over-compensate before the caffeine starts to have it's full effect. < 1248401805 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. or just as maybe that makes no sense physiologically. < 1248401900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've always thought that pure liquid coffee would be awesome < 1248401915 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just remembered a quote: "Sleep is not a good substitute for Caffeine" < 1248401939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to emulate it at drinkable temperatures, just grind the beans to shit, add the minimum water possible and use a heavy-duty mix/stir thingy every single speck of bean < 1248401949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :voila! actual coffee < 1248401973 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just melt it! < 1248401990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but that is too hot to drink without burning yourself to shit < 1248401998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean of course melting is one path to it, but you have to put a lil water in there after < 1248402019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the important thing is to avoid actual solid specks of bean < 1248402022 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's served in small pressure < 1248402025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gloopiness < 1248402032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err low < 1248402033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want it to be an actual liquid drink < 1248402052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just made of as much coffee as possible, with the only other ingredient being a tiny amount of (filtered) water < 1248402074 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press the beans so hard they emit their juices. < 1248402088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm isn't the shell kinda part of it too? < 1248402139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MizardX: also wouldn't 100% bean juice be kind of dangerous? < 1248402162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, then squirt all the juices out, then absolutely pulverize the shells into as fine a grain as possible; get tiny bit of water, mix in, etc < 1248402167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then pour into the juice < 1248402174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :voila! as pure as coffee as possible < 1248402274 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird is a coffee supremacist < 1248402327 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my blackboard is almost complete! < 1248402327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know if it'd be safe? anyone know if the shells are useful? < 1248402333 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, pure liquid coffee might be pretty good < 1248402337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: are we talking a regular blackboard thing < 1248402339 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee beans are pretty tasty < 1248402347 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: im building an a-frame blackboard < 1248402357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: so it's safe then < 1248402362 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why wouldnt it be < 1248402369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much caffeine? < 1248402380 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on how much you drank < 1248402410 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, all the extra material from the coffee bean buffers the caffeine < 1248402411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway, squirt the juices out (hurr hurr penis), grind the shells to as fine a grain as possible, mix in as small an amount at a time as possible into as little filtered water as possible, using a good mixer/stirrer at each step < 1248402424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pour the water/shell mix into the juice < 1248402441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :run your mixer/stirrer on it for a bit < 1248402443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heating it up is left as an exercise to the reader < 1248402447 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is this your plan for liquid coffee bean? < 1248402464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: just as pure as coffee as possible while still having all the flavor < 1248402478 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :espresso is pretty close, you know. < 1248402488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not nearly close enough < 1248402492 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehh < 1248402494 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it pretty is < 1248402498 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive eaten coffee beans < 1248402501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much water < 1248402509 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248402511 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1248402513 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's still a deadly drink < 1248402515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to compensate for not having awesome mixing powers < 1248402519 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heres an alternative < 1248402522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: um espresso isn't very deadly < 1248402534 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i make coffee that often leaves lots of sediment in my cup < 1248402549 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill scoop the sediment out, pack it all together for you, and ship it off! < 1248402555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :point is, espresso has too much wate < 1248402556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1248402562 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by sediment i mean like silt-y fine stuff < 1248402569 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: probably not < 1248402574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with our way, you just have enough water to hold the extremely fine ground bits of bean < 1248402577 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you could probably do it, ehird, but itd taste like espresso < 1248402577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a lot of mixing < 1248402578 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the short term < 1248402579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not a lot < 1248402586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no, the silt stuff will be kinda gloopy or whatever < 1248402592 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so will your muck! < 1248402594 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Why not just eat straight coffee beans? < 1248402594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want something that's a bona-fide liquid drink < 1248402599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's not hot liquid < 1248402608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it's not muck, and it involves liqui < 1248402609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1248402611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a small amount < 1248402613 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but < 1248402616 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ground up coffee bean < 1248402617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that mixer/stirrer has to be excellent < 1248402620 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will clump < 1248402623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, run it really fast and long < 1248402625 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and settle < 1248402634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: okay, i didn't state my process properly < 1248402636 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very quickly, infact. < 1248402639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme write a paste-sized version < 1248402654 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you, COULD do is like < 1248402662 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make lots of really strong coffee < 1248402666 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :extract all the flavor you can < 1248402674 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then distill it until heres hardly any water < 1248402684 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not add any powderized bean < 1248402700 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a better option. the bean is mostly starch and fiber anyway. < 1248402771 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, I was wondering: would anyone happen to know of where I may find a copy of Donald Knuth's "Things a Computer Scientist Rarely Talks About" lecture series? It was hosted on Dr. Dobb's site, but is no longer... < 1248402808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: so the bean doesn't really have any flavor then? < 1248402816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh it actually improves mine < 1248402825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it lets you make it less gloopy with a little bit of water < 1248402826 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, I am t3h googling. < 1248402829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while still having coffee shit in it < 1248402835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: http://pastie.org/557205.txt?key=1wmaucsdzjdko9jjm34dua full process < 1248402934 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would appear to have gone to the bit bucket. < 1248402944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: No? < 1248402951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://www.amazon.com/Things-Computer-Scientist-Language-Information/dp/157586326X < 1248402963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it just his christian blab < 1248402972 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Dr. Dobbs once upon a time had the video lectures. < 1248402976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"3:16: Bible Texts Illuminated (1990), in which he examined the Bible by analyzing the third chapter and 16th verse of each book. In each lecture, Knuth explores various aspects of that project, such as the ways that the random selection of "3:16" functions as a method for understanding the overall thematic threads of biblical meaning and exposes the intersections of faith and computer science." < 1248402978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuppers < 1248402986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :numerology + christianity = hyuk hyuk hyuk < 1248402997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ah — [[In addition, since this book is simply a transcription of Knuth's lectures, it is recommended only for large academic libraries.]] < 1248403018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm intrigued is all. < 1248403028 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And only the dead-tree is still around. < 1248403028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/shrug < 1248403056 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah well. < 1248403356 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, I am increasingly convinced that new versions of Perl are designed by hitting a keyboard and trying to make the resulting line noise parse. < 1248403616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, it took you ages to arrive at a tedious, decades-old joke. < 1248403630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl 5.10, in case you didn't realise, modernised the language and added a lot of clean features. < 1248403643 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've not seen Perl 6 much. < 1248403644 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248403654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ever looked at the obfuscated c contest? < 1248403660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I can do that, too!" < 1248403673 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't defend C. < 1248403674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree that perl 6 sucks though < 1248403677 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(... any more. :P) < 1248403678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kitchen sinkus maximus < 1248403681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Haskell, too. < 1248403688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Obfuscation < 1248403737 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ... That is scary. < 1248403758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't (???????) what you (??????). < 1248403763 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :??????? < 1248403773 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? tail < 1248403777 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that < 1248403793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furry confusion < 1248403947 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finishes watching Interstella 5555 < 1248403983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucked < 1248404051 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1248404051 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1248404056 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was busy making coffee :p < 1248404085 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it, but it was difficult to follow at first < 1248404109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: so, your comments. < 1248404127 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my comments are you should mix it again after heating incase of settling. < 1248404128 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1248404131 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the beans are worthless < 1248404180 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially what you want to do, ehird, is make instant coffee thats really sludgey, since thats the purest kind of coffee you can get, except instant coffee itself is fucking disgusting, so you'd have to distill the coffee yourself < 1248404203 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's instant coffee? < 1248404206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no, no, the bean shell is there for a reason < 1248404209 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1248404222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: we have to add some water, otherwise we just have the plain juice, which will be too thick < 1248404223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1248404229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just adding water would be too watery < 1248404231 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: dessicated coffee that you just need to add water to to get coffee < 1248404232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not pure coffee enough < 1248404237 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: plain juice? < 1248404241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: so we add the beans in, to make the water more coffey-y < 1248404242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: sigh < 1248404243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read my paste < 1248404245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read it carefully < 1248404249 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know but what is this "juice" < 1248404255 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: not always bad < 1248404257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read my paste < 1248404260 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I DID < 1248404261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it specifically says what it is < 1248404279 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, probably because most instant coffees aren't just coffee < 1248404287 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you squeeze the "juice" out of the beans < 1248404289 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're tasty sugary vanilla coffee < 1248404291 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1248404296 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the juice is "what you squeezed out of the beens" < 1248404296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: so it's fuzzy language < 1248404297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sue me < 1248404300 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is that juice < 1248404303 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what this is < 1248404306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[02:21 MizardX: Press the beans so hard they emit their juices.]] just sparked my interest :) < 1248404312 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :roasted beans have no "juice" < 1248404317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: just pummel the beans until they're flat shells < 1248404319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all < 1248404344 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird theres no real point to that < 1248404352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes there is, it's my method < 1248404458 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no ehird < 1248404477 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you a) cant extract "juice" out of dry beans, because there is no juice in beans < 1248404481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1248404481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez < 1248404488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's vague because i'm lazy < 1248404490 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what the hell did you say you could for! < 1248404491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a lazy perosn < 1248404492 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1248404493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :person < 1248404495 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you really should do < 1248404503 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is grind your beens up REALLY finely < 1248404516 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not TOO finely but pretty finely < 1248404528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the shell portion < 1248404535 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make espresso, which will extract a lot of the flavor < 1248404546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1248404549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck espresso < 1248404551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has way too much wate < 1248404552 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you boil off the water until you've gotten very little left < 1248404552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1248404557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's assume we're in ethopia < 1248404565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have like less than one glass of water < 1248404565 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have just essentially pure coffee < 1248404584 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you CANT grind up the beans to a powder and add water to that < 1248404586 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wont work < 1248404611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i had a teleporter i'd prove it to you right now < 1248404613 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the beans have too much non-coffee stuff in them, the powder will just form a sediment and wont add flavor < 1248404643 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i said, you want to make strong coffee and then concentrate that because then you have JUST the stuff that makes coffee coffee < 1248404817 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because once you've added water to the sediment that you're making, the sediment itself will mostly not even HAVE any flavor to it < 1248404829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it doesn't need to add flavor < 1248404835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just needs to make it less gloopy < 1248404839 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1248404842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just add in the shells to make it less watery < 1248404848 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get that < 1248404858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more coffeey therefore it wins < 1248404861 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but youd get the same thing by distilling off the water from pure coffee < 1248404867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1248404868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do so then! < 1248404871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :report back with pictures. < 1248404876 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having the sediment detracts from the pure coffee, actually < 1248404884 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its volume but no coffee flavor < 1248404914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: but that's because just pure coffee will be too gloopy < 1248404917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :water would do the same < 1248404919 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what we really might want to do is figure out how to extract the essential oils of coffee < 1248404925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the shells are just... coffee-feelin < 1248404925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1248404926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248404929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing that wouldn't really be coffee < 1248404935 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it would! < 1248404936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might as well synthesize caffeine + flavours < 1248404944 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the essential oils are what makes coffee coffee < 1248404947 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of just hot water! < 1248404969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay :P < 1248404983 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd have to have some sort of fractional distillation process i guess. or we could try to let the oils separate off < 1248404996 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often have coffee that has clear films of coffee oils on the surface < 1248404998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny, i don't even like coffee all that much < 1248405000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor tea < 1248405004 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine that letting it sit would let it separate even more < 1248405007 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this dude used to put caffeine pills in his coffee < 1248405008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it interests me to play around with them < 1248405012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: heh < 1248405018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should start a coffee lab < 1248405022 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should! :o < 1248405025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where we have a bunch of expensive heavy-duty equipment < 1248405029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just make coffee with it < 1248405033 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird have you seen that coffee making thingy < 1248405036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, we can have it as a café < 1248405039 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like a piece of lab equipment? < 1248405040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a really fucking huge behind-store < 1248405045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: that $11,000 thing? < 1248405047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1248405050 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1248405051 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1248405052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :starbucks made it, or at least own it now < 1248405059 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pics? < 1248405064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Clover < 1248405069 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1248405073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1248405076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: http://www.slate.com/id/2185655/ < 1248405088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.starbucks.com/clover/ < 1248405089 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no not that < 1248405095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248405096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no then < 1248405100 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats just a fancy espresso machine < 1248405101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: anyway I'm thinking more like really big stuff < 1248405108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the size of a big desk < 1248405117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally filled with machinery < 1248405121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's just one phase! < 1248405154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i wonder if we could get a government grant to find out a way to make coffee by pummeling it with lasers < 1248405158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get beans < 1248405159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get water < 1248405162 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe :o < 1248405171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simultaneously evaporate the plate between them and shoot tons of high-powered lasers at it < 1248405175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drink < 1248405175 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on whether or not torchwood would be involved < 1248405181 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure ianto might have a way :o < 1248405220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if you can buy a machine where it lifts up an object < 1248405225 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248405228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has two really heavy metal plates at either side < 1248405228 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its called a forklift. < 1248405229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1248405233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it slams them together at the object < 1248405235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at really high speed < 1248405238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with tons of force < 1248405244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just call it the DECIMATOR < 1248405248 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1248405249 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1248405255 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing i was thinking about isnt 11k < 1248405257 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 20k x3 < 1248405261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248405263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1248405265 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes PortableApps worked as-is on Linux < 1248405267 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://coffeegeek.com/guides/siphoncoffee < 1248405283 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I could use the apps no matter the OS (well, not OS X >.>) < 1248405302 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I only use Linux and Windows < 1248405306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: anyway there's clearly only one good way to make true pure coffee < 1248405312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get your coffee beans < 1248405314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heat them until they melt < 1248405318 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET? < 1248405321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mix them madly to soften them < 1248405321 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats this get < 1248405323 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GROW < 1248405327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1248405329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll start again < 1248405330 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1248405332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grow your coffee beans < 1248405336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(put them next to your weed) < 1248405339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heat them until they melt < 1248405340 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some coffee geeks grow their own beans < 1248405342 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and roast them too < 1248405343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, not the weed, the coffee) < 1248405351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: let's skip roasting < 1248405355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go straight to melting < 1248405357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248405358 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah you have to roast them < 1248405362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah fine < 1248405363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :roast them < 1248405363 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it doesnt taste like coffee < 1248405365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heat them until they melt < 1248405369 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tastes bitter < 1248405375 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3JcOndpcGU < 1248405376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mix them wildly to get it thinner < 1248405380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1248405381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow < 1248405382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep it melted < 1248405388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what kinda temperature you need to melt coffee beans < 1248405390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably tons < 1248405401 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant be done, actually. < 1248405405 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :billions < 1248405407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaaaaat < 1248405411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur why not < 1248405423 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sublimation < 1248405426 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the heat would cause various chemical processes to happen < 1248405432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1248405434 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would either 1) result in burning, if exposed to air < 1248405443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't expose it to air. < 1248405445 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 2) result in carbonization if kept out of air < 1248405455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :decarbonize it. :P < 1248405459 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cnt < 1248405461 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant* < 1248405488 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1248405490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1248405490 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would point out < 1248405493 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that this siphon device < 1248405497 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be easilly made < 1248405515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay/ < 1248405515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1248405521 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and isnt worth 20k. < 1248405523 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is all. < 1248405523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\/\n\?/?/ < 1248405555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: why can't we decarbonify it :P < 1248405566 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that would just make coffee beans again. < 1248405578 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or coffee bean powder. < 1248405598 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, itd be impossible, but ignoring that. < 1248405608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a problem with it being carbonized :D < 1248405622 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes: carbonized coffee bean is known more commonly as "charcoal" < 1248405637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248405645 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which also doesnt melt. < 1248405665 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, charcoal + caffeine < 1248405666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: so there's no way to have actual liquid coffee beans? :( < 1248405679 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not without getting rid of the starch and fiber in the bean. < 1248405691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that be an issue < 1248405701 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it would just involve making coffee from it. < 1248405713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1248405732 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote yes: carbonized coffee bean is known more commonly as "charcoal" < 1248405733 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :49| yes: carbonized coffee bean is known more commonly as "charcoal" < 1248405744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1248405744 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1248405749 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, " which also doesnt melt." < 1248405751 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything melts. < 1248405759 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you make coffee, all you're using is using water to make the non-starch non-fiber stuff move out of the starch and fiber < 1248405767 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregorr: no. not everything. < 1248405774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 125 < 1248405774 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1248405776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : is there a problem with it being carbonized :D yes: carbonized coffee bean is known more commonly as "charcoal" < 1248405781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote is there a problem with it being carbonized :D yes: carbonized coffee bean is known more commonly as "charcoal" < 1248405782 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :49| is there a problem with it being carbonized :D yes: carbonized coffee bean is known more commonly as "charcoal" < 1248405807 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: You're telling me there are materials that are a solid at 12 quadrillion degrees :P < 1248405813 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1248405833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: wouldn't they be gas or plasma < 1248405834 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im telling you there are materials that go straight from solid to gas or plasma at 12 quadrillion degrees. < 1248405839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMFG < 1248405842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plasma coffee < 1248405843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :discuss < 1248405847 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1248405850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1248405852 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not possible. < 1248405859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY NOT < 1248405862 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: In plasma form, it wouldn't be coffee, it would just be protons, electrons and neutrons floating about. < 1248405866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up :P < 1248405869 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it were plasma, the nuclei would be free from the electrons < 1248405870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then < 1248405872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gas coffee < 1248405874 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there wouldnt be molecules < 1248405874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can smoke it < 1248405878 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gass coffee, maybe. < 1248405883 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Sounds ... unwise. < 1248405884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gassssssssssss < 1248405890 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on whether or not the oils and such can vaporize. < 1248405892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: haha that made me laugh < 1248405897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost spit out my lemonade :\ < 1248405918 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the nature of oils in general, coffee probably cant be vaporized without burning < 1248405922 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION solves a ProjectEuler problem with one line of Python < 1248405929 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or without significant chemical changes that make it not coffee < 1248405931 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: So take it to an oxygen-free environment, yeesh < 1248405933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: maybe burnt coffee tastes delicious < 1248405936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered that huh < 1248405938 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregorr: see above. < 1248405939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it carbonizes < 1248405942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've established that < 1248405944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you QUOTED that :P < 1248405947 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wll no ehird < 1248405951 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the coffee BEAN carbonizes < 1248405954 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the oils might not < 1248405954 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I quoted your MOM. < 1248405957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1248405961 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there also might be other chemicals that are relevant < 1248405962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: oh snap < 1248405971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: anyway, maybe burnt coffee beans are wonderful. < 1248405976 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre not < 1248405977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case let's melt it with air. < 1248405979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit. < 1248405981 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I knew your middle name, I would go: Elliott Hird!!! < 1248405986 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm sure that's something she's said. < 1248405990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: My middle name is < 1248405991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1248405992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: My middle name is < 1248405994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1248405995 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Starbucks is nicknamed Charbucks by coffee snobs < 1248405996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1248406006 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah, people who don't have middle names are losers. < 1248406020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I actually corrected that to have a space at the end :-) ) < 1248406031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: BUT, there are people who can drink Starbucks and enjoy it < 1248406049 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: there are people who eat feces and enjoy it. < 1248406053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so burnt coffee beans can't be _undrinkably_ bad; perhaps with my magical MELTED COFFEE it could be acceptable < 1248406056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yes but < 1248406061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like eating charcoal, at least < 1248406075 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once had some Lindt 99% pure chocolate < 1248406081 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tasted and felt like eating charcoal powder. < 1248406096 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-8 < 1248406099 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've eaten that! < 1248406101 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's awesome! < 1248406103 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was silty, and the silt would collect between your cheek and your gums < 1248406108 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :horribly bitter stuff < 1248406113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've eaten 95% chocolate, or was it 98% < 1248406114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 90% < 1248406120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, it was nice < 1248406122 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after eating the 99% pure chocolate < 1248406134 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinking tonic water was completely bearably < 1248406143 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i couldnt taste the tonic over the chocolate < 1248406148 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have had 99%, 95%, 90%, 85%, 80%, 75%, 65%, and various lower than that. I think 80% is about the point where above that it gets worse, not better. Maybe 85%. < 1248406160 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and I think 72% somewhere too. < 1248406161 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :85% is good < 1248406165 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the 99% stuff is like < 1248406168 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :charcoal. < 1248406170 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously. < 1248406180 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its charcoal with a little bit of cocoa butter. < 1248406181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :charcoal smells lovely < 1248406191 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1248406194 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google celebrates comics today < 1248406205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old < 1248406206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comicon < 1248406211 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is that it? < 1248406219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248406256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, dammit < 1248406262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want liquid coffee beans < 1248406269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: even if we did get them... how on earth do you keep it liquid :D < 1248406282 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very high temperatures that would make them undrinkable. < 1248406284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("how do you keep a circle square, circle?") < 1248406288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: :( < 1248406295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping for like "MODIFYING THE ATOMIC STRUCTURE" < 1248406295 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, this is why you should just try distilling coffee < 1248406298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1248406300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a purist < 1248406304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only like absolute solutions < 1248406305 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and so is the coffee. < 1248406310 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember, ehird < 1248406319 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bean is nothing but a wooden carrier for coffee goodness < 1248406321 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is all. < 1248406333 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wooden football soaked in yummy coffee. < 1248406339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: extract all the goodness < 1248406342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :melt it < 1248406345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mix it madly < 1248406346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1248406350 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, that extraction coffee is called making coffee. < 1248406354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1248406359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the whole point is no water < 1248406366 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, thats why you distill it < 1248406386 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might need a fractional still to make sure you remove just the water tho < 1248406393 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there might be chemicals with lower boiling poins < 1248406399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's notable that i can't really drink strong coffee < 1248406404 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wuss. < 1248406422 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuban coffee <3 < 1248406424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the smells and everything < 1248406428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not the taste < 1248406429 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf970009t < 1248406435 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you'd love my coffee. < 1248406441 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a magic recipe that goes like this < 1248406442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want coffee that's optimised for smell < 1248406450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it invades your bloodstream via your nose. < 1248406471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it does like ? < 1248406473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*goes < 1248406475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's amazing < 1248406477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, i . < 1248406498 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee, cinnamon, vanilla -> french press. hot water -> french press. stir, steep, press, pour -> mostly fill cup. 3 tsp sugar -> cup. half and half -> cup. < 1248406516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds ridiculously sweet < 1248406520 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1248406533 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuban coffee is ridiculously sweet < 1248406537 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuban coffee is like < 1248406539 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :espresso < 1248406543 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats been concentrated < 1248406551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds ummm bitter, not sweet < 1248406552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248406559 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not bitter. < 1248406567 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that a tazza of espresso < 1248406571 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now fills maybe a thimble < 1248406577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1248406581 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you mix that with like a tablespood of sugar < 1248406594 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a tablespoon, a tablespoo_D_ < 1248406597 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, thats right < 1248406600 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whole tablespood. < 1248406606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: ship me some of your coffee at 0K so that it stays perfect < 1248406615 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might damage it. < 1248406618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also modify it so that when it stops being 0K, it instantly becomes the right temperature < 1248406620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: pfft nonsense < 1248406626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just transport it to a universe where everything is 0K < 1248406632 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :freezing can alter the chemical composition of the coffee. < 1248406642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't freeze it < 1248406644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just place it in 0Kland < 1248406649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a teleport < 1248406657 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :being at 0K might still alter the chemical composition < 1248406665 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows what quantum superposition will do to the coffee! < 1248406665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1248406668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248406671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum coffee < 1248406698 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all coffee is quantum coffee. < 1248406708 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf970009t < 1248406731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all everything is quantum everything < 1248406738 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly. < 1248406742 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1248406754 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive had more insights into why the universe might be running on a giant supercomputer. < 1248406766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please augur < 1248406768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stick to the coffee < 1248406835 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248406847 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248406856 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ho but i am ehird < 1248406860 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if we can contact the sysadmins of the universe < 1248406867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_o < 1248406874 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might be beneficent enough to let us hack together some liquid coffee < 1248406884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248406888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, you do know that belief in a simulated universe is equivalent to a belief in god? < 1248406895 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it almost is < 1248406913 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except in this case, god wears t-shirts and has cheetoh stains on his shirt. < 1248406921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goes against occam's razor, assumes things that are not us are like us and merely offloads the complexity < 1248406926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e., where did _they_ come from) < 1248406933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: hmm well that is more appealing yes < 1248406940 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figure < 1248406944 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: ive had more insights into why the universe might be running on a giant supercomputer. <<< you believe that too? < 1248406945 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the universe IS a giant simulation < 1248406953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: congrats, you're religious < 1248406955 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :than /b/tards are the blessed 144 thousand < 1248406958 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes < 1248406967 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then* < 1248406971 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my new thing < 1248406974 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, isnt that frightening? D: < 1248406976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: lol < 1248406978 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :believing this is a simulation < 1248406981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: not really, because i don't believe it < 1248406982 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah might be one of The Saved < 1248406982 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x.x < 1248407001 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an afterlife i can believe in < 1248407018 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, whether or not this is a simulation is all kind of moot until we discover otherwise. however, there might be certain things that could prove it. < 1248407027 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i know what those are but < 1248407046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish there were teleports < 1248407061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could teleport me some coffee, i feel like some right now < 1248407110 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Cory Doctorow's true names, i think, there are some philosopher AIs < 1248407124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no < 1248407125 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that have developed a way of calculating whether or not a reality was simulated < 1248407128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not cory doctorow < 1248407131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is an awful writer and an obnoxious person < 1248407132 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's more a way to justify my semisoliptist views. < 1248407134 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on various logical properties that must follow < 1248407136 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :than an actual religion < 1248407137 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hush, i love him. :P < 1248407139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: *solipsist < 1248407140 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the point is! < 1248407145 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i write < 1248407145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: we're not friends any more < 1248407148 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1248407151 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were friends?? < 1248407167 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there MIGHT be certain aspects of reality that necessarily entail true realness < 1248407175 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while simulations might not be able to have those aspects < 1248407179 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows! < 1248407200 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, wanna hear my compelling reasons for believe the universe is a simulation? XD < 1248407209 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1248407221 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(after that i can tell you why the clock has to have a maker) < 1248407226 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so i told you the other day about the whole time ordering relativity thing, right? < 1248407238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he's doing crap physics again < 1248407239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to goooooooo < 1248407241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1248407249 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: let's say you did < 1248407250 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ill do it in private then :| < 1248408776 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did god talk to you < 1248408849 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well clearly this is a closed system < 1248408884 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do hear voices sometimes, but that's just my head < 1248408919 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i heard voices. that'd be cool. not crazy voices tho < 1248408923 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :voices that are like < 1248408931 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mm get the panini, it looks good" < 1248408946 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear ... my voice in my head >_> < 1248408958 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... when I talk <_< < 1248408962 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of the sudden i just got kind of weird feeling in my head D: < 1248408966 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like my focus is kind of off < 1248408967 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1248408979 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE SYSADMINS FROM THE METAVERSE ARE MESSING WITH ME D: < 1248408983 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get these sort of panic attacks where lots of people are whispering fast and loud in my head, i call it my programming mode < 1248409014 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very rare, but i love it < 1248409019 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who wouldn't) < 1248409023 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ... I would consider consulting a therapist about that ... < 1248409037 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248409041 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregorr: therapists only treat you if its interfering with your life. < 1248409050 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my life is pretty much perfect < 1248409056 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the definition of a psychiatric illness /requires/ that it interferes with your life. < 1248409062 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: My life is perfecter! :P < 1248409065 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the fact i'm incredibly lazy when i'm not being insanely productive < 1248409068 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesnt interfere, psychiatrists dont care. < 1248409073 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i doubt that. < 1248409077 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol < 1248409084 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you been unhappy during the last say 3 years? < 1248409085 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps its that you're not production when you're incredibly lazy! < 1248409091 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been maybe 5 times or so < 1248409108 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can has psychiatric illnes. < 1248409109 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually due to being tired. < 1248409115 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm emotionally neutral at nearly all times ... < 1248409118 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me autism has. < 1248409137 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: more like grammar problems. < 1248409140 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think of a situation where I've been UNhappy recently ... < 1248409152 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also use English oddly at times, but that has little to do with psychiatric illnes. < 1248409162 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just psychiatric oddness. < 1248409167 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248409214 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: well, i can't remember an exact time either < 1248409236 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah maybe emotionally neutral would be the most optimal way to live, i tend to be high on life 24/7 < 1248409253 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a particularly emotional person *shrugs* < 1248409255 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you know, staring at trees in awe and shit < 1248409270 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closest I get is lost in music. < 1248409352 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. if you don't feel anything, how do you measure quality? < 1248409363 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i can beat you with any measure, i'm sure. < 1248409384 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say I don't feel ANYTHING, I'm just not very emotional. < 1248409388 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm content. < 1248409412 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm content even when i'm unhappy. < 1248409414 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many free vacations to foreign countries have you been on? :P < 1248409421 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because my life is perfect < 1248409427 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"free"? err, none i guess. < 1248409445 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If "free vacations to foreign countries" is a measure of life quality, I win on that measure :P < 1248409445 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :living tends to cost < 1248409464 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like vacations, i prefer university atm < 1248409465 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in each occasion I have to present a paper or something thereabout. < 1248409470 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is university :P < 1248409474 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free because Purdue pays. < 1248409490 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by "have to" I mean "get to", because I love public speaking. < 1248409500 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why would i want a free trip to a foreign country, when i could just read at home. < 1248409527 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... clearly our measurements schemes are incomparable :P < 1248409529 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning is about as good as sex, which i also have more than you < 1248409546 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe so, let's just agree we're both perfect and get on with our lives < 1248409551 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKIDOKE! < 1248409563 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I wonder why you make such strong assumptions about my sex life :P < 1248409572 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless of course you're a porn star on the side, and so can reasonably make them. < 1248409595 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not a porn star, no < 1248409614 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i'm not a porn star, no < 1248409615 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :50| i'm not a porn star, no < 1248409618 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rarely have sex more than once a day, tbh < 1248409620 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That whole conversation was just to get that quote in the quote DB. < 1248409630 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That done, I'm going to sleep. < 1248409636 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248409662 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has emotions, in honor of Gregor, who has not < 1248409672 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a fekking vulcan >_< < 1248409678 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248409709 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lies and decit. < 1248409721 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deceit, even. < 1248409722 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION carefully makes sure his hair covers his ears. < 1248409730 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reapplies his reddening makeup. < 1248409732 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M NOT A VULCAN < 1248409801 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a second i was tempted to say "...the vulcan erupted", but that simply made no sense < 1248410165 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, vulcans have excellent emotion control < 1248410242 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it worth it to go to PyCon? < 1248410444 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No. Needs more hallucinogens. < 1248412305 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at Jaxer < 1248412316 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it weren't for the first example, I'd say it looks quite cool < 1248413055 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all PHPy though. Mixing business logic with display < 1248413057 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh < 1248415213 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248415288 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1248416638 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a great webcam recording program, it lets you upload videos to youtube and send emails, but there's no way to save a recording :D < 1248417104 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: can you play .wmv? < 1248417111 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to convert < 1248417190 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recorded some piano for you, not really my top speed, but fast enough < 1248417389 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial snippet for the right hand, http://www.vjn.fi/oklopol/pianovids/pianoriff.wmv, also i'm naked but it's totally sfw. < 1248417406 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound is really bad, i had to play it slowly in the beginning so you know what i'm doing < 1248417497 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if the shops are open ~> < 1248417628 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would've recorded something longer and more sensible as well, but i have to play pretty loud to get even that almost inexistant sound on the vid, and it's kinda early < 1248417648 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't really know that many songs < 1248417663 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well pieces, or whatever < 1248417691 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just saw the words "naked" and "oklopol" and reflexively wgetted the link, before noticing the sfw label. < 1248417704 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn < 1248417715 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must've been disappointed < 1248417730 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't really see anything good < 1248417736 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just my boobies < 1248417765 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, turning the camera around a bit was a nice touch, still. < 1248417773 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248417781 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i had to see the screen to know where the button is! < 1248417796 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i wasn't actually going to send that version, it's just i probably woke my neighbors already. < 1248418117 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, it's not even that bad on 50% speed < 1248418168 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except left-right sync kinda sucks, requires more concentration < 1248418219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1248418221 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shoppe < 1248418238 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to go there i think -> < 1248418325 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels like he's cheating in Project Euler < 1248418337 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't thinking about the math, he's just using quick Python < 1248420208 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the rule of thumb is if it takes over a minute to solve, you're doing it wrong; whether you use math or programming doesn't matter < 1248420220 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also for python, i'd increase the limit a bit < 1248420531 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to go to sleep eventually < 1248422399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1248422400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1248425696 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248426464 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248428847 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248429222 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248431215 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248431252 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248431662 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248431776 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248434866 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248435633 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys! < 1248435634 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wellnowwhat.net/blog/?p=294 < 1248435637 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CG and CCG :D < 1248436173 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248436242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo: the rule of thumb is if it takes over a minute to solve, you're doing it wrong < 1248436243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1248436244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mega no < 1248436263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written my program but should it take days to get to the answer? < 1248436263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolutely not! Each problem has been designed according to a "one-minute rule", which means that although it may take several hours to design a successful algorithm with more difficult problems, an efficient implementation will allow a solution to be obtained on a modestly powered computer in less than one minute. < 1248436268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program should RUN in less than one minute < 1248436270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could take hours to write < 1248436770 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: chekidout < 1248436783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did. it went over my head < 1248436788 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? how? < 1248436790 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just lambda calculus :| < 1248436806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's your mom < 1248436815 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably! < 1248436822 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is CG too hard? :| < 1248436871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1248436901 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it do you find hard to understand?? < 1248437020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got up < 1248437025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and am tired < 1248437027 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1248437032 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pets ehird < 1248437035 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent slept yet xp < 1248437236 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to my bed, augur < 1248437241 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1248437246 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a place for you < 1248437666 0 :nooga!n=nooga@94.254.135.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248437698 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to match chars like óąćńę etc. using regexp? < 1248437717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by typing them into the regexp < 1248437734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your language just does bytes, hope it's in the right encoding and get a new language < 1248437778 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248437787 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i could use range like a-z < 1248437798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can if your language is unicode, nooga < 1248437802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consult its docs < 1248437807 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ruby < 1248437813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.8 or 1.9 < 1248437863 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.9 < 1248437896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you can do it < 1248437898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tihnk < 1248437922 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess there's no automagic thing to convert Ä…->a Ä™->e etc < 1248437927 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh =.= < 1248437936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a script for thta. < 1248437937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that. < 1248438019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: anyway, why do you want to do that? < 1248438022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds lame. < 1248438058 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you just want to match "alphabetic characters" in general, that might be possible too. I don't do ruby, but the POSIX character-class [[:alpha:]] might work there. Perl regexps have \p{IsAlpha} which does the same thing. < 1248438077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sssssssh < 1248438082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to deal with encoding and everything < 1248438088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what you match it on < 1248438090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't go there < 1248438101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: anyway either find a script to do it or don't do it because it sounds like a bad idea < 1248438153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Anyway, you can pipe it to http://www.tablix.org/%7Eavian/blog/archives/2009/01/unicode_transliteration_in_python/ < 1248438205 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1248438210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., `python -c "from unidecode import unidecode; import chardet; print unidecode(chardet.detect(sys.stdin.read())['encoding'])"` < 1248438214 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it using gsub and dictionary < 1248438224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: congrats, now it only works if someone inputs UTF-8 < 1248438228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone uses UTF-16 it'll stay < 1248438233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you still haven't said WHY < 1248438531 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1248438532 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1248438535 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr('ąćęłńóśźżĄĆĘÅŃÓŚŹŻ', 'acelnoÅ¿zzacelnoÅ¿zz') < 1248438549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga < 1248438550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will < 1248438551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1248438552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1248438554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :work < 1248438556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1248438558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will < 1248438560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only < 1248438562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :work < 1248438564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for < 1248438566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1248438568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :encoding < 1248438570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your function is _broken_ < 1248438572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1248438574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows < 1248438576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't < 1248438578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use < 1248438580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1248438582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :encoding < 1248438584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by < 1248438585 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ehird doesnt use spaces < 1248438586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :default < 1248438595 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's only srcipt for me to build some tags < 1248438596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not when i'm talking to complete fucking morons, no < 1248438611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: well gee, maybe if you'd actually said that one of the three times i asked < 1248438619 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehehe < 1248444154 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coud i say that "i excess distance to avoid trafic jams" ? < 1248444214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, for several reasons < 1248444221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) I don't know what "coud" is < 1248444228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) Excess isn't a verb < 1248444233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) I don't know what "trafic" is < 1248444393 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1248444406 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to say that i choose longer way < 1248444500 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you say "I choose a longer way" < 1248444505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sentence isn't even vaguely grammatically correct, but let's give it a try. < 1248444508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: shush you < 1248444524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: "I take the longer route to avoid traffic jams." < 1248444529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That only works in present-tense, though. < 1248444533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean you do it in general: < 1248444536 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more fluidly, "I travel further, but in doing so, bypass traffic jams and get to my destination sooner" < 1248444538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I take longer routes to avoid traffic jams." < 1248444551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: that's adding rather more semantics than what he said : < 1248444552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248444553 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1248444557 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really! < 1248444561 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho i suspect the truth behind what you're saying is more like < 1248444570 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I take the quickest route." < 1248444598 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is true in the case of traffic jams precisely when its faster to take a longer route < 1248444621 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but which is also true sans traffic jams, which is likely also what you really mean to convey < 1248444651 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I take the road less traveled, for it makes all the difference in avoiding traffic jams." < 1248444682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm a scenic driver because traffic jams irk." < 1248444685 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting paradox: sometimes, adding more roads to a road network can increase mean travel time < 1248444727 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, did you see my tutorial on categorial grammar? x3 < 1248444758 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1248444759 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a horrible urge to answer "tl;dr" here. < 1248444764 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1248444773 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should read it anyway. its not /too/ long < 1248444777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I agree with the disinterested sentiment, but never say "tl;dr" or I'll kill you. < 1248444784 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a sentence: take longer route to avoid < 1248444803 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its pretty quick going if you're familiar with lambda calculus and can generalize it. < 1248444810 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*typed lambda calculus < 1248444835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: in what context? < 1248444841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :commanding someone to take the longer route? < 1248444845 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: none, hes context free x3 < 1248444848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying that you always take the longer route? < 1248444850 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248444855 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1248444855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :saying that you, right now, as an action, take it? < 1248444856 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not always < 1248444856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: which < 1248444861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well < 1248444863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost always < 1248444864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'generally" < 1248444866 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take longer route TO AVOID something < 1248444867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*"generally" < 1248444869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248444871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was leaving that implicit < 1248444892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: then: "I always take a longer route to avoid traffic jams." < 1248444892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1248444899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I generally take a longer route to avoid traffic jams." < 1248444903 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1248444906 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :understood < 1248444909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders wtf nooga is doing :) < 1248444924 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: who knows. he's a nutball. < 1248444933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ball of nuts! < 1248444942 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a holiday treat! < 1248444958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtle gay undertones! < 1248444967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok "subtle") < 1248444994 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's got two balls of nuts next to his yule log :o < 1248444998 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, below. < 1248445017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yule log? < 1248445021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's um… some penis < 1248445026 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :youve never heard of a yule log? < 1248445034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what a yule log is. < 1248445058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't think that penises are generally all that swirly you know? < 1248445060 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its when you plot the amount of joy relative to time of the year, on a log-log scale < 1248445067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you don't cut bits off of them. usually < 1248445070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: lol < 1248445086 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh.. how are yule logs swirly? < 1248445101 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well around their axis, i guess, sure. < 1248445104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.aeb.org/Recipes/Desserts/CHOCOLATEALMONDYULELOG_files/chocolate-almond-yule-log.jpg; you might have meant actual, uhh, logs < 1248445112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everyone says yule log to mean that so nyah < 1248445118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if that's 404 cut off the ending ;) < 1248445151 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but real testicles are not made from pecans held together with syrupy stuff either < 1248445152 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... < 1248445153 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248445171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1248445174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1248445177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i should go see a doctor < 1248445189 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1248445340 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.violet.com/index.php?catname=new%20gifts&detail=AB010420 < 1248445341 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1248445345 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive been thinking about doing just that < 1248445390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing what < 1248445400 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goggles for cutting onions < 1248445408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: that doesn't link to an actual product there < 1248445422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a "WE'RE CLOSING SOON! so 'sall cheap." < 1248445423 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid redirect :| < 1248445437 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.swiss-miss.com/2007/10/onion-action-go.html < 1248445438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they fail to say why they're closing < 1248445441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate it when people don't say that < 1248445447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*companies, not people < 1248445449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: lol < 1248445467 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive got some goggles from chemistry class that i can use. :D < 1248445497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if anyone's synthesized coffee in a lab. < 1248445506 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.swiss-miss.com/2007/06/nomad_travel_si.html < 1248445508 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nomads! < 1248445517 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: synthesized coffee? probably not. < 1248445527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :’askell ’onads < 1248445535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: well they should! < 1248445543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just synthesize the perfect cup of coffee without any of that pesky process < 1248445868 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1248445873 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one month left! < 1248445879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to what < 1248445879 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less even < 1248445882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*till < 1248445883 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until i get my own apartment < 1248445890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noes < 1248445901 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gonna have a KITCHEN < 1248445902 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248445911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you say ugh < 1248445919 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its not here right now! < 1248445934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur you can have my imaginary apartment < 1248445937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's great apart from not existing < 1248445945 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats it like? :o < 1248445949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1248445957 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :layout? < 1248445962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1248445966 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :describe it :| < 1248445976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm well it has every room ever < 1248445981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just walk into the next room and it's the room you need < 1248445985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the room is exactly how you want it < 1248445986 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1248445994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only has two rooms because every other one comes from just switching < 1248445996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's of arbitrary size < 1248446001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's in an arbitrary place < 1248446005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's wherever you want it to be right now < 1248446007 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of a story or something < 1248446013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and looks exactly like whatever you want it to be right now, etc. < 1248446013 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about a house that existed in four dimensions < 1248446016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it is imaginary and does not exist < 1248446030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: “—And He Build a Crooked House—†< 1248446033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by Robert A. Heinlein < 1248446034 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1248446037 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love you ehird. <3 < 1248446037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with the quotes) < 1248446043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Built < 1248446044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1248446047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all that pedanticism < 1248446050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I make a trivial spelling error < 1248446066 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1248446067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: can you play .wmv? <-- probably < 1248446220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg, his ARMS are naked in it < 1248446225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just horrific < 1248446299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, haha < 1248446332 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what < 1248446343 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1248446344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol isn't here augur < 1248446345 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what < 1248446345 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1248446347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1248446349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: the video! < 1248446352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of him playing pian < 1248446352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1248446353 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what video < 1248446353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAKED < 1248446356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost like playing penis naked < 1248446369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopianorn: http://www.vjn.fi/oklopol/pianovids/pianoriff.wmv < 1248446376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pianorn is a really crap term < 1248446384 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol playing piano?! :o < 1248446393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAKED < 1248446426 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dobleve te efe. < 1248446431 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that last bit <3 < 1248446455 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopols so adorable < 1248446569 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not just arms, thanks to that camera-rotation fan-service thing at the end. < 1248446576 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :D < 1248446592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i said arms before that < 1248446614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what could be more explicit than invisible-due-to-darkness, compressed-to-hell oklochest < 1248446635 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So compressed he could be wearing a bloody overcoat :P < 1248446641 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sleeveless overcoat? :P ) < 1248446685 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just tell your computer to "enhance"; that works at least in TV series. < 1248446842 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random overcaffeinated fact: potatoes are a member of the nightshade family and as such their leaves are incredibly toxic to humans. while the spuds themselves contain very small amounts of toxin, they do contain /some/ toxin, and despite its incredible improbability it is possible to die from eating a potatoe < 1248446862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible to die from the cyanide in an apple too! < 1248446872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you have just almost enough to die already) < 1248446876 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such cases often occur when potatoes for a large part of a persons diet, and eating large quantities of potato in one sitting increases the risk of death < 1248446899 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad I prefer rice. < 1248446909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rice kinda sucks < 1248446916 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RICE RULES POTATOS ARE SUCK < 1248446922 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Good rice) < 1248446939 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :japanese sticky rice is absolutely delicious < 1248447080 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the important parts of a nuclear bomb are called the "physics package", in acknowledgement of the fact that nuclear bombs use physics to blow shit up. < 1248447118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: as opposed to regular bombs < 1248447121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which don't use physics to blow shit up < 1248447126 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1248447140 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those use chemistry! < 1248447151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't dictated by the laws of physics. < 1248447164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: clearly we need ’bombs, which use ’pataphysics to blow shit up < 1248447179 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1248447182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait is it ’ or just ' < 1248447191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably ’pataphysics < 1248447213 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont reember where thats from but i recognize it < 1248447320 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brbrbrbrb < 1248448024 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a bomb that's just made of a balloon filled with tacks that you overinflate until it pops, sending tacks flying everywhere ... are we back to a physics package now? :P < 1248448045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1248448047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be amazing < 1248448053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have like 10 billion tacks, easy < 1248448058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make it the size of a mansion < 1248448068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: fill the balloon with expanding gas or something < 1248448070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it pops extra hard < 1248448080 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to be lighter than air though :P < 1248448100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: nope, you can drop it from a plane < 1248448106 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SWEET < 1248448110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: yep < 1248448115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just shove it out hard and set up the inflater < 1248448116 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*BOOSH* < 1248448118 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tacks fly* < 1248448121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also put a sharp thing on the bottom < 1248448130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it pops from inflation and being poked simultaneously < 1248448136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it hits the ground < 1248448161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i like how it'd be really impressive but not do much more than scratch somebody mildly < 1248448163 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you had the tacks built in to the fabric of the balloon, instead of just sitting in there, you would guarantee maximum distribution. < 1248448165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mildly scratch sometbody < 1248448171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, haha < 1248448175 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could poke out an eye! < 1248448183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248448189 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you were like "OMG look up, there are tacks coming at us!" < 1248448200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i look for in a mansion-sized bomb that requires a plane at an exact altitude to work < 1248448209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ability to poke eyes out if you're unlucky < 1248448219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*out eyes < 1248448270 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My version is still not mansion-sized :P < 1248448285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you need a shitload of tacks to do much damage < 1248448289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering how much they'll spread < 1248448294 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is true ... < 1248448302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so about 10 billion < 1248448306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, mansion-sized < 1248448308 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, it'll just have to be really well-aimed and explode low. < 1248448311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could poke out like 5 eyes if you're lucky < 1248448318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: but we're dropping this on a city! < 1248448326 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you are :P < 1248448330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the battle of mild annoyance of the enemy < 1248448339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their retaliation was to send a bunch of birds over here to poop on us < 1248448373 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's my thought: You toss an inflating balloon ready to burst full of tacks into the bunker of the enemy. They're all like "aw shit if I pop that it's gonna be sucky, get a bucket--*KABOOOM*--OW MY FUCKING EYES" < 1248448430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248448436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: okay another idea < 1248448439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gigantic water balloon < 1248448440 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I was really just looking for any way to make an explosion that was non-nuclear and non-chemical :P < 1248448448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really heavy < 1248448451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just drop it on your enemy < 1248448456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have to go dry themselves off < 1248448475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it probably counts as chemical to a degree < 1248448483 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S SO LAMESAUCE < 1248448493 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just fluid dynamics maaaaaaaaaaaaan < 1248448536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www22.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=father%27s+brother%27s+nephew%27s+cousin%27s ;; I wonder how Wolfram Alpha reacts to incest < 1248448621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn "parents brother" just picks one < 1248448688 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... why is the probability of sharing a dominant trait with a sibling less than the frequency in the population ... < 1248448734 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, that graph seems to be the same for absolutely any relationship I enter. < 1248448772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www22.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=brother%27s+brother%27s+brother%27s+brother%27s+mother%27s+brother%27s+mother%27s+brother%27s+son%27s+brother%27s+son < 1248448778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bother bother b(r)other! < 1248448792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how it's second cousin < 1248448801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh, my second cousin! Hi!" < 1248448806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Who are you?" < 1248448810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, we have a few people between us..." < 1248448819 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At what "blood relationship fraction" does sex become OK? :P < 1248448836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: iirc it's okay to breed with your second cousin < 1248448839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and might actually be genetically beneficial < 1248448845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think second cousin < 1248448861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: so uh, 1.5625% :P < 1248448951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: People On The Internet say that perhaps fucking your first cousin is even better < 1248448953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, genetically < 1248448956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows! < 1248448985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www22.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=tenth+cousin < 1248448991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0% blood relationship! < 1248449086 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird has a rounding error < 1248449094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very minor rounding error :P < 1248449137 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, one can look at "blood relationship" as "percentage of identical DNA" < 1248449147 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case all humans are >99% blood related. < 1248449158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're all inbreeding. < 1248449163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't outbreed. :P < 1248449167 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should be having sex with ... trees? < 1248449169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1248449174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the same species somehow evolved independently < 1248449178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on completely isolated halves of the world < 1248449182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without ever breeding together or even touching < 1248449189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they could have sex and it wouldn't be inbreeding < 1248449190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1248449191 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds likely to me. < 1248449195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they themselves would be the product of inbreeding < 1248449208 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1248449210 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cloning < 1248449217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so two people of the same species would have to independently, unrelatedly spontaneously come into existence < 1248449219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then have sex < 1248449223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be outbreeding < 1248449226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: uhh, that's incest. < 1248449235 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? < 1248449237 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We're all inbreeding" sounds to me more being about some sort of channel-wide orgy. < 1248449242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: you're from the same family? < 1248449245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're cloned you're identical < 1248449249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still the same clump of atoms < 1248449255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't matter how it came about < 1248449265 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If aliens with pretty much the same genetic code aren't family, why would a construct with a similar genetic code be our family? < 1248449270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all we know the universe does "for all atoms, atoms[i] = random()" every planck time < 1248449286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that would be OK too < 1248449357 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But random() is only pseudo random dude < 1248449375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :statistical analysis seems to suggest not :P < 1248449376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HotBits yo < 1248449388 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends what you mean by random < 1248449407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: analysis of the nuclear decay of atoms shows it to be of exceptional randomosity from our point of view < 1248449439 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is not the sauce of random()! < 1248449447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unfortunately, they are proposing to manage all of these increased expenses the same way the Nazis did -- by killing sick and old people." —reddit < 1248449450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a *shame*! < 1248449453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deary me. < 1248449457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so unfortunate. < 1248449458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248449650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the same person: < 1248449652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm really sorry but..what if I'm right, and you are a Nazi, and just don't know it?" < 1248449664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(after calling someone a nazi and being called out on it) < 1248449673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: You kill babies. < 1248449725 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first step to salvation is admitting that you are a nazi < 1248449749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I always used to be firmly for world government, but recently I have seen a lot of people saying right now we have kind of a secret world empire and that they are really evil people that plan on eliminating free speech and killing 2/3 of the world population (to save the environment or something).[…]I'm not for *that* kind of evil world government." < 1248449755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He prefers the fluffy, kind evil world government. < 1248449767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :([…] contains… a newline, and nothing else.) < 1248449878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The funny thing about these people is how good they are at self-delusion… kind of like the rapture people… it hasn't happened yet because they're still grooming us for it. And again. And again, again, again. < 1248449899 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you some kind of nazi ehird < 1248449906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. A nazi of LOVE. < 1248449942 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will you send grumpy people to concentration camps? < 1248449970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1248449979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone else commenting on one of his insane posts: [[I'm glad to see this being posted outside of /r/conspiracy because the writing is on the wall and has been for years now.]] < 1248449983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like all the other conspiracies! < 1248449995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know... uh... < 1248450023 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1248450454 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : omg, his ARMS are naked in it < 1248450465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :naked gun < 1248450469 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the new Michelle Obama look, i read about it in the paper today < 1248450471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i just came up with that in 3 seconds < 1248450521 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i believe there is prior art. involving leslie nielsen and some homocidal maniac. < 1248450540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was... a joke... as a reference < 1248450541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitch < 1248450590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Who shot the footage? 'Cause, I mean, you see the two astronauts[…] < 1248450596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU < 1248450681 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everyone knows they didn't have timer technology in 1969. < 1248450697 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless, WAIT, maybe they got it from those roswell aliens! < 1248450699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah shit's hard < 1248450738 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all makes sense now. they really _did_ go to the moon, but they secretly used alien technology! < 1248450757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHIMPANZEE INVESTIGATORS < 1248450760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :…FROM SPACE! < 1248450763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :…OF THE MOON! < 1248450791 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's no moon. < 1248450821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S A CHIMPANZEE < 1248450823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHAPED LIKE A MOON < 1248450892 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mother of all chimpanzees < 1248451019 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm glad I prefer rice. <-- i've read that badly treated rice is a major source of food poisoning < 1248451057 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never store it for long in room temperature after cooking < 1248451116 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : augur: clearly we need .bombs, which use .pataphysics to blow shit up < 1248451143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :’ < 1248451145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not . < 1248451150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you jewnicode hitler < 1248451191 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be 'terrorism < 1248451216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need ’pataprogramming < 1248451220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's modifying the metaprograms. < 1248451225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :’PACA < 1248451310 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : GregorR: i like how it'd be really impressive but not do much more than scratch somebody mildly < 1248451321 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasps, i say < 1248451376 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm those would be a pain to put in a balloon without premature popping < 1248451405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop a cap^Wballoon < 1248451730 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248452380 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: YES. < 1248452439 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i take it you are really fond of food poisoning. < 1248452449 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And wasps! < 1248452525 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess technically if a wasp stings while you're eating it, it can count as both < 1248452554 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I tend to eat rice, y'know, immediately after cooking it? < 1248452567 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248452571 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas wasps of course must be eaten raw and living. < 1248452601 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just tug out their stinger and *munch munch munch* < 1248452610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no man < 1248452612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stinger is the best part < 1248452627 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :risotto with wasps... < 1248452651 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@pal-163-053.itap.purdue.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1248452681 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although raw is the proper way, they're pretty good cooked in oil too. < 1248452685 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a little bit of butter. < 1248452689 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And salted of course. < 1248452727 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finger-stinging good < 1248452743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:23 ehird: no man < 1248452743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:23 ehird: the stinger is the best part < 1248452756 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saw it. < 1248452761 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it so is not :P < 1248452764 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What with the poison. < 1248452776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take an antidote. but it's so crunchy and sweet! < 1248452789 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've eaten a mosquito before. In fact, I think I then immediately came in here and said "lawl I ate a mosquito" < 1248452813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bees and wasps are OK eaten after a good boiling. The poison is basically a protein which disassembles at boiling temperatures. The stinger softens. Pounding them before boiling is effective. Bee and Wasp Larvae are delicious!" < 1248452827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Alternately, you could put the wasp in the freezer until became docile with the cold. You might not even have to remove the stinger that way." < 1248453765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1248453783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scammy site overing webhosting with 50GB of storage for $6.95/mo < 1248453790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You gotta know that shit grows on trees. < 1248453797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheap Website Hosting < 1248453797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- $7.95 / month < 1248453799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheap hosting plan: < 1248453801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- 1500,000 MB of storage < 1248453803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just ridiculous. < 1248453814 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that. i though it came out of butts. < 1248453818 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thought < 1248453829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they mean , as in separator < 1248453832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that's almost 1.5TB < 1248453836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they mean it as in decimal < 1248453840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then who the fuck says 1500.000? < 1248453901 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.500.000 commonly means 15 * 10^5 < 1248453925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if it means 1500 then that's less than the cheaper plan < 1248453928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is 50000 < 1248453935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I know < 1248453941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: but there's no dot in this < 1248453951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1500,000 MB" is either 1.5TB of a really stupid way of saying 1500 MB < 1248453962 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was semi-responding to ( ehird) then who the fuck says 1500.000? < 1248453973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right < 1248453973 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that stupid < 1248453986 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, its not stupid, its very precise < 1248453988 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you might have 1500 MB + 200 bytes < 1248453992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: xD < 1248453995 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its true! < 1248454004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually 0.001mb = kb < 1248454008 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they specify how precise it is < 1248454009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you couldn't express 200 bytes with three < 1248454014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yes but this site is ridiculously loose with language < 1248454015 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Exactly < 1248454017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like all scammy ultra-cheap hosting sites < 1248454023 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, but! < 1248454031 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: So they say it's guaranteed to not be 1 kilobyte over 1500 MB < 1248454036 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it might be 200 bytes more < 1248454037 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or less < 1248454039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, but dude, < 1248454059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's less storage space than the plan that costs one dollar less. < 1248454064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or thereabouts) < 1248454069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole site is just a fuckfest XD < 1248454084 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised if that other one were a typo < 1248454091 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or then they do mean 1.5 TB. < 1248454094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1248454108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna know how they profit off 1.5TB for less than $8/mo! < 1248454115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Answer: by not giving you 1.5TB.) < 1248454213 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who could actually USE 1.5TB? What they actually give you is "unless everybody starts using it at once, we'll have that much space free for your files" < 1248454228 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like how a bank doesn't actually have enough cash for everybody to withdraw everything at once. < 1248454268 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the computer arrived. I will fetch it at the local post office in a few hours. < 1248454290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's actually a bobcat < 1248454298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: …I could easily use 1.5TB… < 1248454323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is this joke a reference to something? < 1248454331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, it really is a bobcat. < 1248454486 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://xkcd.com/325/ < 1248454518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah that... < 1248454519 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1248454540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION burns arch to cd < 1248454562 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great alt/title text, too < 1248454616 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1248454646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: btw, you'll need to change fontconfig settings to 129 dpi. < 1248454653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise text will be way too small. < 1248454657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhu < 1248454663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1248454668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it 15.4 or 15.6 inch < 1248454674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if 15.6 (shut up augur), then 127 < 1248454685 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean "shut up augur"? < 1248454690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15.4" < 1248454693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: length. < 1248454700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248454700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, yeah, 129 dpi < 1248454706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay technically 128.65 < 1248454710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't really do that. < 1248454732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm going to bother about that once I got stuff like partitioning, encryption and so on done... < 1248454754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i doubt you'll even be able to read the text without straining at such a wrong dpi setting < 1248454760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :96 vs 129 < 1248454769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends < 1248454796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, installing arch uses the linux vt though < 1248454802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so about zero I can do at that point about it < 1248454806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1248454807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1248454814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :P.S. it will also catch on fire if you don't additionally turn on RGB antialiasing, and set hinting to "light") < 1248454814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, arch linux cd has ssh < 1248454818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^/(/ < 1248454822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried yesterday with virtualbox < 1248454831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1248454832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*slight < 1248454856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was when I found out virtualbox assert()ed on a guest with 2.6.30 kernel...) < 1248454909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assert()ing is pretty regular :P < 1248454923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in virtualbox? < 1248454925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1248454936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think you mean "assert() failed". < 1248454941 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well yeah... < 1248454951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nitpicking :P < 1248455043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw a fun thing: my cd/dvd drive burns perfectly fine CDs that k3b claims failed the verification pass. But using dd to dump the cd and comparing it to the iso show no differences. And they work perfectly too < 1248455057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: k3b will be more nuanced < 1248455060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on another drive I attached to test with, k3b doesn't claim they fail. < 1248455061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cds aren't really digital < 1248455064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scratches, skips etc < 1248455074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the drive might be bad < 1248455109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm? < 1248455117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to work perfectly < 1248455122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in all other aspects < 1248455125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and with all other tools) < 1248455127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, in all other aspects < 1248455137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, even burning using plain cdrecord < 1248455146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tv that can't display images works in all other aspects too :p < 1248455164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the cds actually work though, Even in other drives. < 1248455176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now they do. < 1248455182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the drive's _reading_ might be fucked up. < 1248455186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus causing the errors. < 1248455231 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm, dumping it with dd reading with the same drive shows no difference so I'm not sure how it would be messed up < 1248455261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Scratched disks read perfectly too, sometimes. But not always. < 1248455268 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the only times cdparanoia complained was when the cd used had scratches. And it likes to complain about things. < 1248455269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the DISC COULD BE FINE. The drive just might be READING it wrong. < 1248455270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When it checks. < 1248455279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no visible scratches on this completely new cd-r... < 1248455284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WAS AN EXAMPLE! < 1248455291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes... I understand < 1248455295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I want to find the real cause < 1248455297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You seem to think CDs and CD drives are like USB sticks; a bit's either one or zero and the only errors can be logical writing or reading errors. < 1248455300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't work like that. < 1248455354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, indeed it doesn't. But what sort of error is it? k3b doesn't tell me < 1248455366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Garden pixies. < 1248455444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1248455963 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vile enemies of garden gnomes. < 1248456106 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, btw IWC was quite funny today IMO < 1248456296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's lame, ELER did it before < 1248456327 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm sure a lot of comics has done it before < 1248456334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1248456338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eler does meta the best though < 1248456343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never meta eler comic i didn't like < 1248456347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eler? < 1248456357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/ < 1248456362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everybody Loves Eric [S] Raymond. < 1248456365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the one that updates once / year or so < 1248456383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it got once a month or so in ’07! < 1248456403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there were no updates in ’08 :) < 1248456403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. that was then < 1248456412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many this year? < 1248456418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1; the current one < 1248456425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, uhh < 1248456429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the last one metaed :) < 1248456437 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248456984 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-124-173.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1248457154 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: hilarious, wasn't it. < 1248457504 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248457759 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248457837 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :[Pretending to be Sine Area] Logs from this channel: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1248457871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :‡ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1248457980 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :#esoteric, the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - #esoteric is not associated with the joke language Perl, please visit www.perl.org - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ or http://meme.b9.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric < 1248458021 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :#esoteric, the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - #esoteric is not associated with the joke language Perl, please visit www.perl.org - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1248458031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In an ironic twist on Mapua artist Roger Griffiths' protest withdrawal of his $190,000 savings in $20 notes from Westpac yesterday, the money was today back with Westpac. < 1248458031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248458033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mr Griffiths deposited the cash at the Nelson Building Society in Richmond, but because NBS banks with Westpac, it has deposited the money there." < 1248458044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Nostalgia is dead! Which is why we don't link to the logs any more. http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1248458057 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: lol < 1248458065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol to what? < 1248458069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit I made up or the bit I didn't? < 1248458076 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit you didn't. < 1248458082 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing you make up is funny. OHHHH BURN < 1248458083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'aww. :P < 1248458126 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny make up is nothing, you. < 1248458202 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :[ÐоÑталгија Ðреа] #esoteric, the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - #esoteric is not associated with the joke language Perl, please visit www.perl.org - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1248458281 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonderfully, Google Translate can (incorrectly) detect that that Serbian is Macedonian, but can't translate it to English :P < 1248458295 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering about the j... < 1248458815 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elleniko alfabeto. < 1248458888 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, definitely cyrillic based < 1248458907 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with that strange j mixed in < 1248458934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: hilarious, wasn't it. <-- indeed < 1248459004 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: And "Apea" entirely in latin script :P < 1248459008 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serbian is weird? < 1248459029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, what does that phrase mean? < 1248459043 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nostalgia Area < 1248459047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhu < 1248459057 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"erbian is the best example of synchronic digraphia. Both Latin and Cyrillic alphabets are widely used in Serbia in a large variety of contexts, and most people are literate in both scripts." < 1248459061 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With an 'S' there < 1248459061 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: except Apea is also perfectly valid cyrillic afaik < 1248459066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erbian! < 1248459067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248459093 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it makes more sense that way < 1248459152 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(p -> r) < 1248459428 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248460438 0 :GuestShadowSkunk!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-117-183.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1248460637 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@i022117.gprs.dnafinland.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1248460783 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate Como estas? < 1248460784 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you? < 1248460790 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1248460805 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate wtf < 1248460805 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1248460813 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1248460831 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate asdfio < 1248460832 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdfio < 1248460841 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate hva faen < 1248460841 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1248460866 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate Me gusta Google Translate! < 1248460867 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Google Translate! < 1248460873 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate mitäs vittuu < 1248460874 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what s ¤ vittuu < 1248460880 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's screwy. < 1248460884 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate mitä vittua < 1248460885 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¤ what the fuck < 1248460900 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello inexplicable added symbol :P < 1248460902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: add `translateto < 1248460903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1248460909 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/translate < 1248460909 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ if [ ! "$1" ] \ then \ echo 'Use: translate ' \ exit 1 \ fi \ \ QUERY=`echo -n "$1" | od -t x1 -A n -w1000 | tr " " %` \ \ wget --user-agent="" \ \ 'http://translate.google.com/translate_t?text='"$QUERY"'&sl=auto&tl=en' \ \ -O - | \ grep result_box | \ perl -pe 's/^.*result_box < 1248460913 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add it yoself! :P < 1248460917 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/translate < 1248460918 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/translate < 1248460918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/translate < 1248460919 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1342 < 1248460924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1248460935 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: actually "mitä vittua" means "weird symbol, what the fuck" < 1248460945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248460946 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Fascinating :P < 1248460984 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate Kefir mjølk, kefir ikkje kaffi? < 1248460985 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kefir Mjà ¸ LK, Kefir not coffee? < 1248460986 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tranlate mitä helevettii? < 1248460987 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461004 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :translate* < 1248461013 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i doubt that'd help much < 1248461021 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid HackEgo not being psychic :P < 1248461025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wget http://pastie.org/557942.txt?key=qjidtjokinumzi74zrs0w -O bin/translateto; echo 'translateto en "$@"' > bin/translate < 1248461026 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461035 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Need to use fetch. < 1248461036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate mitä vittua < 1248461037 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehh < 1248461044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch --help < 1248461048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.............. < 1248461050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1248461051 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://pastie.org/557942.txt?key=qjidtjokinumzi74zrs0w < 1248461051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch < 1248461051 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU Wget 1.11.4, a non-interactive network retriever. Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]... Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory for short options too. Startup: -V, --version display the version of Wget and exit. -h, --help print this help. -b, --background go to background after startup. -e, --execute=COMMAND execute a `.wgetrc'-style command. Logging and input file: -o, --output-file=FILE < 1248461052 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://: Invalid host name. < 1248461056 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate mitä helevettii? < 1248461056 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fetch http://pastie.org/557942.txt?key=qjidtjokinumzi74zrs0w -O bin/translateto; echo 'translateto en "$@"' > bin/translate < 1248461061 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461063 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm :P < 1248461063 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1248461067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate bitch < 1248461067 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248461072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1248461074 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fixes fetch quickly :P < 1248461075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"$lang" < 1248461076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help if i liked < 1248461078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :defined lang < 1248461081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it < 1248461092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate Immer mit dem Unicode! < 1248461092 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fetch http://pastie.org/557945.txt?key=qd0f5hgnhxg4isykm3wfg -O bin/translateto; echo 'translateto en "$@"' > bin/translate < 1248461110 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate im a bitch lol < 1248461115 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-___________- < 1248461131 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: fetch cannot be run in 'run', it's a builtin, not a command. < 1248461139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://pastie.org/557945.txt?key=qd0f5hgnhxg4isykm3wfg < 1248461139 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-07-24 17:45:39 URL:http://pastie.org/557945.txt?key=qd0f5hgnhxg4isykm3wfg [338/338] -> "557945.txt?key=qd0f5hgnhxg4isykm3wfg" [1] < 1248461141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1248461142 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :557942.txt?key=qjidtjokinumzi74zrs0w \ 557945.txt?key=qd0f5hgnhxg4isykm3wfg \ bin \ paste \ quotes \ share \ tmpdir.26894 < 1248461152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm 557942.txt?key=qjidtjokinumzi74zrs0w < 1248461153 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv 557945.txt?key=qd0f5hgnhxg4isykm3wfg bin/translateto < 1248461160 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'translateto en "$@"' > bin/translate < 1248461166 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate f < 1248461170 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate gutten tag < 1248461173 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461179 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: PERMISSIONS YOU RETARD < 1248461182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1248461189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/* < 1248461189 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate fuck bitch < 1248461192 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1248461196 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate wtf < 1248461196 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461198 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP < 1248461200 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP STOP STOP < 1248461201 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248461201 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God damn it < 1248461204 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :START < 1248461205 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate wtf < 1248461206 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Help < 1248461211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Help help help help help < 1248461215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : …god damn it < 1248461215 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate fru Ibsens ripsbusker og andre buskvekster < 1248461216 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461226 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate Como estas? < 1248461226 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate MAYBE IF I TRY IT A FEW MORE TIMES IT'LL START WORKING < 1248461229 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1248461284 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l bin/translate < 1248461285 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 5000 20 Jul 24 17:48 bin/translate < 1248461294 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Is your translateto even REMOTELY correct? It just seems wildly wrong. < 1248461306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Hmm. < 1248461308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't indee. < 1248461309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1248461311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$1 vs $2. < 1248461317 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1248461323 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, when something is run as `foo bar, everything goes as ONE argument. < 1248461330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1248461330 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: there was a translation error between ehird's brain and keyboard < 1248461330 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file bin/translate < 1248461331 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/translate: ASCII text < 1248461334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1248461338 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 133 < 1248461339 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1248461342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1248461344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was working on that < 1248461344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1248461349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://pastie.org/557954.txt?key=0hiipgsxhwifd4whcr5wg < 1248461349 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-07-24 17:49:09 URL:http://pastie.org/557954.txt?key=0hiipgsxhwifd4whcr5wg [338/338] -> "557954.txt?key=0hiipgsxhwifd4whcr5wg" [1] < 1248461358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv 557954.txt?key=0hiipgsxhwifd4whcr5wg bin/translateto < 1248461358 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/translateto < 1248461362 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461363 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop the nonsense and make it work again. < 1248461368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run translateto fi "hello world" < 1248461369 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World < 1248461374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a start < 1248461377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run translateto de "hello world" < 1248461377 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallo welt < 1248461390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'translateto en "$@"' >bin/translate < 1248461391 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in finnish "moikka maailma :)" < 1248461391 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/translate < 1248461393 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, translating "hello world" to Finnish is just a matter of capitalizing the words < 1248461394 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461395 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it's < 1248461400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate hallo welt < 1248461401 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :........... < 1248461408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well someone fix that. < 1248461410 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/translate < 1248461411 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :translateto en "$@" < 1248461420 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: #!/bin/sh or something? < 1248461424 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 144 < 1248461425 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1248461425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: no, that's automatic < 1248461425 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixt. < 1248461431 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/translate < 1248461431 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: No, that's not. < 1248461431 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ if [ ! "$1" ] \ then \ echo 'Use: translate ' \ exit 1 \ fi \ \ QUERY=`echo -n "$1" | od -t x1 -A n -w1000 | tr " " %` \ \ wget --user-agent="" \ \ 'http://translate.google.com/translate_t?text='"$QUERY"'&sl=auto&tl=en' \ \ -O - | \ grep result_box | \ perl -pe 's/^.*result_box < 1248461434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: would you stop that? < 1248461436 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1248461440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1248461441 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate wtf < 1248461442 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1248461444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to fix it and you just keep reverting it < 1248461446 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works now < 1248461450 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you're needlessly fucking with translate when translateto DOESN'T EVEN WORK YET. < 1248461452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: he reverted it < 1248461455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: yes it does < 1248461456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you idiot < 1248461460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run translateto de "Hello world" < 1248461460 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallo Welt < 1248461466 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translateto es This should work without 'run', retard. < 1248461466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly it's just hardcoded that result. < 1248461466 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461467 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: translate works now, so who cares what's reverted < 1248461476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I see. And who dictated that? < 1248461479 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- < 1248461481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should write mv(1) to do that, too. < 1248461484 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^-- < 1248461486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can use it directly. < 1248461496 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you're typing `run translateto foo "Wow this is a stupid way to translate." < 1248461496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and everything else in /bin. < 1248461513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The extra six keypresses will kill us. < 1248461517 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`laden < 1248461517 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248461525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind, you know, obeying general unix conventions. < 1248461525 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heaven forbid you should have to translate something with quotes in it < 1248461530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NO! < 1248461532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another character! < 1248461541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woe betide we, the tormented translators. < 1248461549 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*us < 1248461625 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1248461645 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it can be we. < 1248461647 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translateto fi Behold, magical translation without needless complication. < 1248461648 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Katso, maaginen käännös ilman tarpeetonta monimutkaisuutta. < 1248461656 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248461665 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1248461667 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate Katso, maaginen käännös ilman tarpeetonta monimutkaisuutta. < 1248461668 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, magical Kà ¤ à ¤ ¶ NPV s without unnecessary complexity. < 1248461680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: why don't you just remove the arbitrary command execution of hackego so that you never have to revert people who use such uncouth interface practices as that of any standard UNIX tool? < 1248461681 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's some pretty magical Kà € à € ¶ NPV. < 1248461686 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translateto en Katso, maaginen käännös ilman tarpeetonta monimutkaisuutta. < 1248461687 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, magical Kà ¤ à ¤ ¶ NPV s without unnecessary complexity. < 1248461711 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate kääntäminen < 1248461712 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kà ¤ à ¤ ¤ nta in < 1248461717 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Things in HackEgo's bin directory are not unix commands. It's that simple. They are commands run on UNIX, but they are not intended to follow UNIX conventions. If they were, then `addquote would be a HUGE pain in the arse. < 1248461740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the solution to this is to rampantly revert my changes before I have even a second to attempt to change it < 1248461746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, cool < 1248461749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very hackable bot you got there < 1248461759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I just thought of a slogan you would love: < 1248461766 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinkpad different < 1248461778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: fsvo love equal to shit < 1248461785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fsvo"? < 1248461796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo. < 1248461797 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate fsvo < 1248461798 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo < 1248461802 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248461812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err? < 1248461833 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?q=fsvo < 1248461864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :&/)&¤%( why are unpacking instructions at the *bottom* of a package!? < 1248461878 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1248461916 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inside a plastic shrinkwrap too < 1248462052 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plastic shrinkwrap is clearly a torture instrument < 1248462213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1248462240 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now lets see what vista is like < 1248462245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is what is preinstalled on it < 1248462251 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to try it for the lulz first < 1248462315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vista rebooted itself first thing? < 1248462320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :set up stuff. < 1248462322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*setup < 1248462324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248462330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bets AnMaster doesn't have a wireless router < 1248462352 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bets AnMaster IS a wireless router. < 1248462358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I do have wlan. But it preferred to hook up to the neighbour's unprotected network < 1248462372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a good policy. < 1248462386 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why buy what you can steal? < 1248462398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why default to it though... < 1248462404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because it doesn't involve entering a key. < 1248462410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1248462416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably your WLAN is protected. < 1248462426 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, and not announced either < 1248462426 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably took the first unsecure network, sorted by highest connection < 1248462428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shouldn't assume you know the key, but it wants interwebs at all time. < 1248462429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore… < 1248462429 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make stuff easier for you < 1248462447 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a non-techsavvy user, that is < 1248462452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, < 1248462512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1248462525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vista doesn't accept *not* storing a password reminder thingy < 1248462532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION enters a space < 1248462556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: which vista version does it have? < 1248462562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sp 1 it seems < 1248462567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, like the edition. < 1248462567 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32-bit home basic, probably < 1248462569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and buiseness is the edition < 1248462572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's Vista, which sucks, and there's Vista, which is utterly fucking terrible. < 1248462574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ spelling < 1248462574 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or business < 1248462576 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1248462578 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, that yea < 1248462583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter one is, like... anything but Ultimate. < 1248462596 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Home premium is perfectly sufficient < 1248462600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...for your mom. < 1248462610 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, Ultimate has pretty much nothing on top of it :-P < 1248462621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the bill gates signed editint??!!>!??!?!o < 1248462624 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows Ultimate was supposed to have downloadable extras, but ended up with just DreamScene, which is useless < 1248462633 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1248462637 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially so on a laptop < 1248462647 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dreamscene"? < 1248462663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... it isn't like I will *use* vista < 1248462681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes you will, you said your university requires it. < 1248462693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Windows DreamScene is a utility that allows videos and other optimized animations to be used as desktop wallpapers. It is one of the Windows Ultimate Extras." < 1248462714 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, since virtualbox has 3D acceleration now I doubt it will be a major issue < 1248462732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but vista is sure slow... < 1248462734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1248462737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rebooted again < 1248462741 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :third time now < 1248462746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, without warning? < 1248462790 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, like after two minutes with "busy cursor" after it asked me to enter all that info... < 1248462800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no message < 1248462813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah. < 1248462815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH boot sound is bad enough in XP < 1248462817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is terrible < 1248462850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway: impression so far: ugly < 1248462872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :business doesn't even have aero does it < 1248462909 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it does < 1248462922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm kay < 1248462923 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in all except home basic < 1248462942 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista_editions#Comparison_chart < 1248462951 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and starter :-P < 1248462952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and starter edition! < 1248462954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forg— < 1248462954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248462962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft also makes another variant of Windows Vista Ultimate available to raise awareness of AIDS in Africa: WINDOWS VISTA (PRODUCT) RED. This edition is available pre-installed on select Dell computers and also through The Ultimate Steal. < 1248462977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should have called it "Windows Vista, AIDS Edition" < 1248462987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more direct. It'd sell like hot cakes! < 1248462993 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... yeaaaaaaaaah. < 1248463007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "hot cakes" I mean assholes. < 1248463012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, like, selling = penis. < 1248463013 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a sec < 1248463018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And AIDS. < 1248463050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lenovo recommends you register your computer so we can give you better support and help you get as much as possible out of your Lenvo computer" < 1248463053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err really? < 1248463113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You mean like every other computer manufacturer? < 1248463114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crazy. < 1248463147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wouldn't know. Since several years I only have either recycled or home built computers < 1248463156 0 :atrapado!n=nnn@95.52.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1248463163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recycled computer! Bits of your case become your CPU. < 1248463169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your graphics card is made out of your old mouse. < 1248463184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The memory is made out of STARVING AFRICAN CHILDREN. < 1248463187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, recycled as in: take old computers someone else is going to throw away when they get a new < 1248463191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they work very well still often < 1248463199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not state of the art < 1248463207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but very good for stuff like nfs server or whatever < 1248463210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computers generally do work unless they're broken. < 1248463210 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate atrapado < 1248463211 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trapped < 1248463246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. Summary of vista's design: ugly < 1248463286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I much prefer Fisher Price XP. < 1248463298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary of vista's speed: Slow as fuck. But maybe that is because it is first boot < 1248463299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ? < 1248463307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on XP I always use the 2000-style theme < 1248463313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by stopping the "theme" service) < 1248463347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You know that you can do that in settings? < 1248463350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without stopping the theme service? < 1248463354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes too < 1248463365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, lemme guess, the harddrive is 5400rpm? < 1248463370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but stopping the service is a good idea when you run it in a VM with 300 MB < 1248463372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vista is slow, but that's gonna compound it a lot. < 1248463391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 7200 RPM on the model they had at home. Only 160 GB though < 1248463406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lenovo have a store in AnMaster's house. < 1248463406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the extra 2 GB they are going to arrive on Monday it seems < 1248463413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no < 1248463439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah seems like windows update is finally no longer a hack inside internet explorer < 1248463445 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1248463464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't in XP service pack 3, either, IIRC. < 1248463487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah... I stopped using XP before that < 1248463569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. Now the infamous asking for permission under vista started < 1248463577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it asks if I want Java Updater to be allowed < 1248463587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't seem to say *allowed to do what* < 1248463602 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do something that needs your permission, of course! < 1248463629 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, wouldn't it be a good idea to say *what* said thing was < 1248463634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wants to . < 1248463653 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah quite < 1248463655 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes, it certainly would < 1248463667 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record I disabled that misfeature on my first day of Vista, IIRC < 1248463672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UAC beats no UAC. < 1248463673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, is it always like that under vista btw? < 1248463679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no < 1248463680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it doesn't say what it wants to do < 1248463683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248463683 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beats me; like said, I don't use it < 1248463688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: btw, you're probably running under an admin account. < 1248463692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should, like, fix that. < 1248463699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or just wipe the vista install because who wants it < 1248463703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, possibly. And yeah... < 1248463709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to see how wtf it is < 1248463723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to install xp in virtualbox later < 1248463734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install 7. < 1248463746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, costs more money than using existing non-OEM cd < 1248463754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't the RC still free? < 1248463761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok win update wants to download 551 MB < 1248463768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhoo, the software distributor $torrent_site.com has always been very cheap for me. < 1248463770 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, won't that be disabled later on? < 1248463775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free, actually, now I think about it. < 1248463777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes. < 1248463792 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AnMaster: pm) < 1248463832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: don't cybersex AnMaster < 1248463840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, can't easily atm. Since mouse is connected to the laptop and I'm using xchat because I was doing DCC a while ago < 1248463857 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, if it is about the music: I downloaded it but haven't yet had time to listen to it < 1248463872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 40 seconds long. < 1248463879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just scared of oklochest. < 1248463881 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1248463890 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i just made sure you got that, it was such hard work to record it. < 1248463904 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I actually watched a few secs to make sure wmv worked < 1248463911 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I know it is just arms < 1248463915 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248463915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1248463918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's chest at the end. < 1248463918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248463928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I couldn't use headphones then due to just having showered < 1248463936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, a penis.) < 1248463940 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1248463948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't deny it! < 1248463959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it seems vista still fails to handle connecting the same USB device to different usb ports well < 1248463962 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY PENIS MUST BE BIGGER THAN I THOUGH < 1248463971 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is just silly under windows < 1248463979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes also your neck connects directly to that < 1248463981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's black < 1248463982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up with that < 1248463985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also your arms attach to it < 1248463988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, know what I mean?' < 1248463989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it has no head < 1248463990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/'// < 1248463998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did they circumcise it incidentally < 1248464000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weirdest penis i ever seen < 1248464005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: eh? < 1248464008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1248464023 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, connect an USB mouse of whatever to a system running windows < 1248464029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...works fine? < 1248464031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a few seconds to install a driver if it is first time < 1248464033 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1248464038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...not for a mouse < 1248464041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next time, much faster < 1248464049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um yes. And this is a MS mouse... < 1248464068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway. Reconnect it to a different USB port on the computer... Now it will take the long "installing" thing again < 1248464076 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my penis is circumcised? they don't really do that in finland, so doesn't sound likely. < 1248464079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no, AnMaster? < 1248464080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it wouldn't if it was the same < 1248464082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes < 1248464087 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I just checked < 1248464091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well hey i didn't see any foreskin to that neck/arm attachment thing without a head < 1248464092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is still like that under vista < 1248464094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was under xp too < 1248464095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just going on the evidence < 1248464099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: weird. < 1248464127 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, might need a computer with different host units for each port, instead of one host thingy and an internal hub < 1248464134 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheaper computers often have/had the latter < 1248464154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, because I never had problems when moving between ports on the same external hub < 1248464157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't call thinkpads "cheap" < 1248464159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like "expensive" < 1248464162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes < 1248464165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that was my point < 1248464166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1248464173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248464177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but point is, you wouldn't notice it on a *cheap* computer < 1248464207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never used a mouse with a driver really < 1248464217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well. other USB ones then < 1248464221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like usb memory or whatever < 1248464229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no usb sticks have drivers! < 1248464233 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never seen an USB device this *didn't* apply to < 1248464243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes they do. the generic Mass storage driver < 1248464259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and it happens for them too... < 1248464268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248464270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well kay < 1248464292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is a thingy in the task bar that pops up and says "detecting hardware....", flicks to: "installing driver", flicks to: "done" < 1248464298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248464300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(text from memory and then translated to English) < 1248464302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's not really installing < 1248464306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1248464310 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway that is what I referred to < 1248464313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just HEY YOU CONNECTED A DEVICE < 1248464318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not a useful indicator, but < 1248464321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not reinstalling stuff afaik < 1248464322 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every device has a driver < 1248464329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, doesn't happen if you connected to *the same usb port* before < 1248464335 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you've used your mouse without a driver then the pointer on the screen hasn't moved < 1248464337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you *change* usb port it does it again < 1248464354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, you know what I mean right? < 1248464359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i meant one that pops up the add new hardware box < 1248464362 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yep < 1248464379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and this redetecting just because you use a different usb port is very silly < 1248464387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes no fucking sense < 1248464441 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there some photos on the right side of the screen in vista < 1248464443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :under a clock < 1248464446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nature photos < 1248464450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :change every few seconds < 1248464452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite wtf < 1248464459 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-124-173.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1248464467 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the sidebar or whatever it's called < 1248464477 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the default widgets that live there < 1248464486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. seems like a parody of the widget thingy in OS X < 1248464488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever the name was < 1248464498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's less stupid than OS X's < 1248464502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not expose, but something like it < 1248464505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with OS X's, it is modal < 1248464507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :over all other windows < 1248464510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah true < 1248464515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to go into dashboard mode, look at whatever widget you want < 1248464516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then go back < 1248464517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's useless < 1248464520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Dashboard < 1248464527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vista's is *meh* < 1248464529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway one thing: I'm going to salvage the fonts before I delete vista < 1248464534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what < 1248464535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vista fonts suck < 1248464537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1248464540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from the C* family < 1248464545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can get those free from microsoft.com < 1248464548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a .cab of some kind < 1248464558 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, iirc you said they were better than XP ones and better tuned to Linux and Windows than the OS X ones iirc? < 1248464560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a script that downloads it, extracts them and puts 'em in ~/.fonts < 1248464568 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncab < 1248464571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1248464573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically for these < 1248464575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does it all < 1248464579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just do $ ./vista_fonts < 1248464583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: oh… well, < 1248464590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vista doesn't ship with Helvetica or anything < 1248464594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "oh... well" what? < 1248464600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:42 AnMaster: ehird, iirc you said they were better than XP ones and better tuned to Linux and Windows than the OS X ones iirc? < 1248464605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what this means < 1248464626 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah. well you said the OS X ones weren't suited to hinting or something like that < 1248464627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no good fonts on a default vista other than the C* family, which is on microsoft.com < 1248464628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was a few months ago < 1248464629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1248464631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i meant < 1248464633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :separate download < 1248464634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thingy < 1248464636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248464640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fonts made for windows < 1248464649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: anyway, you have a 1680x1050 display < 1248464656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 15" < 1248464658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be insane to hint more than "slight" < 1248464781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right < 1248464809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean unless you have a micrometer-thick pen and draw large letter shapes with it then look at it from a distance < 1248464812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh it has a built in lamp for the keyboard above the monitor < 1248464814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nifty < 1248464816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's your thing then i guess more would be cool < 1248464825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not as cool as backlit keys :D < 1248464838 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true. but you can use it as an emergency reading light too < 1248464848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why?) < 1248464880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why what? < 1248464914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why about what I said myself the line above < 1248464917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't have a good answer < 1248464948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248464974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows Update: Update 10 of 44 is installing < 1248464976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1248464995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: They're silly for only shipping SP1. < 1248464998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the keyboard any good, btw? < 1248465009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd assume so, but people complained when Lenovo changed the keyboards (rather expectedly). < 1248465010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, quite yes < 1248465018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently if you touch between two keys they sort of buckle together. < 1248465021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "expectedly? < 1248465034 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, they do? Not here then < 1248465038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: take product that hasn't changed for, like, decades, try to improve it, RAAAAAAAAAAAR WHY DID YOU CHAAAAANGE IT < 1248465042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ok, just bullshit then < 1248465048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tested on S/D, G/H and J/K < 1248465061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how heavy is it? < 1248465064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet 2.5kg < 1248465068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm or 2.7kg < 1248465071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go with 2.7 < 1248465073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, don't know where it says it < 1248465085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not going to take it down to weight it atm < 1248465090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1248465090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it is hooked up to ethernet < 1248465093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :during the updates < 1248465093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess? < 1248465100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not < 1248465106 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in. Antigravity < 1248465111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster's sense of weight is binary < 1248465115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either something's heavy, or it's not < 1248465124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bed? Eh, about as heavy as the Eiffel tower. < 1248465138 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248465142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to quote the nomes: Aunty Gravy < 1248465152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume you read those books) < 1248465155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1248465156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't. < 1248465159 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf I say < 1248465172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I had a physics/coffee-related revelation but forgot. < 1248465178 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: :o < 1248465184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Truckers/Diggers/whatever the third one was called. By Terry Pratchett < 1248465198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... "Wings" I think the name of the third one was < 1248465212 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :truckers is almost synonymous to diggers < 1248465216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I read those. < 1248465220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, err? < 1248465223 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248465227 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two different books :P < 1248465228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248465229 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then you know what I'm talking about < 1248465242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Oh, but I did find something about formalizing Lojban's grammar. < 1248465252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/lojban/grammar/index.html < 1248465256 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought Truckers/Diggers/whatever was a very vaguely remembered name < 1248465267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, no... < 1248465272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1248465275 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well clearly not, if you read the whole sentence < 1248465284 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't really have the time < 1248465286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the size of the touchpad is a bit wth < 1248465288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1248465290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: big or small? < 1248465295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, widepad < 1248465296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :small obviously < 1248465297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248465300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: err < 1248465301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, small and widepad < 1248465303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... standard < 1248465304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1248465307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all laptops have wide touchpads < 1248465313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least all widescreen laptops < 1248465316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for obvious reasons < 1248465318 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, should be a bit taller though < 1248465323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/shrug < 1248465326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have big hands. < 1248465328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah there are the trackpoint keys above < 1248465338 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1248465338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is a bit small too < 1248465345 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not so much about formalizing lojbans grammar < 1248465350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: please address me on the same line. :p < 1248465356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: and shush, just click the link < 1248465366 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: is more about handling it in well understood linguistic frameworks < 1248465373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which that page is about. < 1248465383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to configure wlan on it < 1248465386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets see... < 1248465408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is the MAC for the wlan in vista? < 1248465414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use mac filter on my router < 1248465416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_x < 1248465432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not os_x no... < 1248465444 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1248465444 0 :GregorR-L_!n=gregor@pal-163-053.itap.purdue.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1248465445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AnMaster — because people really desperately want to leech internet off of me, instead of that person without any authentication. Est. 2009." < 1248465467 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "ipconfig /all" in the console might show you it. < 1248465468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well... when I set it up last year all networks around were using encryption too < 1248465473 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah thanks < 1248465485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1248465493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is the "run..." in the start menu? < 1248465497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S GONE!? < 1248465531 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, that page is not about that. < 1248465534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Wow, and I was just talking about irrational resistance to change. < 1248465541 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um... < 1248465544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what? < 1248465552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:58 AnMaster: IT'S GONE!? < 1248465556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it isn't irrational. It just means it is a lot harder to use < 1248465560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it's not. < 1248465562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The search field. < 1248465572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah it works like run? < 1248465576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The space it searches in includes the filesystem, yes. < 1248465578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And enter = open. < 1248465580 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: how do you figure its got anything to do with existing linguistic frameworks? < 1248465589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not, like, a combination; it just follows naturally from search. < 1248465596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so you can enter all the commands the same? < 1248465600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1248465602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with parameters and such < 1248465615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: sec < 1248465631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: eh, I don't recall < 1248465635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you complained the grammar was unreadable < 1248465640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that was about fixing that < 1248465641 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not, dude. its all PEG crap < 1248465679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you could tap the trackpoint to click < 1248465682 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't get it to work < 1248465683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you can. < 1248465690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: install the drivers. < 1248465690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, maybe some setting? < 1248465695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :synaptic touchpad thingie. < 1248465700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe on a disc with your computer. < 1248465702 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it comes preinstalled with lenovo's drivers < 1248465705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i detect a dislike of PEG :P < 1248465709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: go into the settings then < 1248465710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and scrolling on the side of the touchpad works < 1248465711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :already < 1248465712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably in a tray icon < 1248465723 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :partially, but more so, PEG is not adequate for the description of natural language grammars < 1248465725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, tapping the touchpad works < 1248465729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not the trackpoint < 1248465733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248465733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1248465736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1248465737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tray icon < 1248465739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chop chop < 1248465749 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it might be POSSIBLE, but its not /adequate/ < 1248465754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there are like 20 tray icons < 1248465757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please stand by < 1248465779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nonsense! Of course tiny unlabeled icons with a huge delay before you can identify them that rearrange, appear and disappear at random is a good UI. < 1248465783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: /shrug < 1248465805 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider, for instance, that the core aspects of english grammar (nay, _all_ grammar) can adequately be handled by a very small (5-10) rules using a unification grammar < 1248465806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, they haven't started hiding like in XP yet... < 1248465812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it is just a matter of time though < 1248465826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1248465842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hardware and sound" <-- odd category in the control panel thingy < 1248465853 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HPSG's core rule set that handles the majority of english is about 4 rules in size. < 1248465872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Ah yes, Shakespeare's early draft: < 1248465874 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and these are not rules of enormous size or complexity < 1248465884 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're very simple rules with no alternations < 1248465885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, < 1248465885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creeps in this petty pace from day to day < 1248465887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the last syllable of recorded time, < 1248465889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all our yesterdays have lighted fools < 1248465891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! < 1248465893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player < 1248465895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That struts and frets his hour upon the stage < 1248465897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then is heard no more: it is a tale < 1248465899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Told by an idiot, full of sound and hardware, < 1248465901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Signifying nothing." < 1248465918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That had rather more lines than I would prefer. < 1248465922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't you resize cmd.exe *sideways* < 1248465924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1248465924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shakespeare was clearly no twitterer. < 1248465925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I remeber < 1248465928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You can, in the preference thingies. < 1248465929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you couldn't in XP either < 1248465933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah it's silly < 1248465946 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: shakespeare no twitterer, or twitterers no shakespeare? < 1248465948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should tweet Macbeth. < 1248465951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Former. < 1248465970 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for, if they had such wondrous things to say would they not have chosen something else? < 1248466024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2mrw*3 comes day2day 2 last part of recorded time and all days lit fools way to death < 1248466031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders how to copy the WPA-PSK key... < 1248466033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating breakfast < 1248466039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man this toast is great < 1248466043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't ssh in and do it... < 1248466044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out, out brief candle!! < 1248466046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1248466051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta ask the chef how he made this < 1248466054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never had better toast in my life < 1248466060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo life's like a shadow. a walking shadow. < 1248466072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i said i liked the toast but this porridge is AMAZING < 1248466096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: By the way, what is the freak mutant top three thingies in http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/9297.jpg? < 1248466105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:07 AnMaster ponders how to copy the WPA-PSK key... < 1248466112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :email < 1248466126 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :putty < 1248466136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that. < 1248466152 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1248466159 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the size of those lojban grammar files? < 1248466179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1248466184 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're ridiculous! < 1248466184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The formalized grammar sucks. < 1248466186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We know this. < 1248466192 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks because its in PEG < 1248466199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it's not. < 1248466203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in EBNF and Yacc. < 1248466205 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1248466207 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABNF and stuff < 1248466209 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever :p < 1248466220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not PEG. < 1248466221 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural language is not CF but < 1248466260 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignoring that < 1248466291 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me give you the core, non-unbounded-dependency parts of HPSG < 1248466304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it must be weird having a computer you can pick up more powerful than a heavyweight thing. < 1248466305 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means the parts that handle all the simple sentences < 1248466317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err? < 1248466338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: if the laptop is anything like the configuration i assembled it's like 10x more powerful than your sempron desktop < 1248466340 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Head Feature Principle: P[HEAD a] -> H[HEAD a], ... < 1248466348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd weird me out :P < 1248466367 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the HEAD feature of the "head daughter" of P must unify with the HEAD feature of P < 1248466368 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1248466387 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where P is any phrase, and ... denotes the other words in the phrase) < 1248466407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you know, I'm not listening < 1248466427 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine :| < 1248466430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :putty rocks < 1248466441 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were only two more rules, but FINE. :| < 1248466442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :putty is ... pretty regular < 1248466445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: well fine then < 1248466448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't wanna leave it incomplete < 1248466451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: By the way, what is the freak mutant top three thingies in http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/9297.jpg? < 1248466454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what weird things < 1248466458 0 :GregorR-L_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1248466460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Above the actual pad. < 1248466462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Below space. < 1248466471 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh. the click buttons for the trackpoint < 1248466474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentioned that before < 1248466479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No... they're below the pad. < 1248466491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are there two copies, one with an additional middle click button? < 1248466493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, wtfstupid. < 1248466494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, those are the click bottons for the trackpad < 1248466495 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Valence Principle for Complements: P[COMPS <>] -> H[COMPS ] a...z < 1248466500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not sure what the middle one is for < 1248466500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ...they're separate? < 1248466504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... ridiculous. < 1248466506 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there are two copies < 1248466507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248466518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you scroll, anyway? Multitouch? < 1248466520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't used many laptops. < 1248466521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the middle one pops up some scrolling icon on the cusor < 1248466524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1248466527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's a windows thing < 1248466530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, not inherent < 1248466534 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which says a phrase P with no complement requirements is formed from the combination of the head daughter, requiring comps a...z, with the actual comps a...z < 1248466536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay < 1248466547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the scrolling on the trackpad? < 1248466550 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is a list of feature structures that must unify with a...z < 1248466551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: try swiping two and three fingers down at the same time < 1248466556 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and finally ehird < 1248466558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be able to scroll that way < 1248466558 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, drag one finger right at the right side < 1248466562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works at least < 1248466589 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Valence Principle for Specifiers: P[SPR <>] -> a H[SPR ] < 1248466628 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which says a phrase with no requirement for specifiers can be formed by a feature structure a, and the head daughter which requires a feature structure that unifies with a < 1248466686 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, those should be the Head-Complement Rule and the Head-Specifier Rule, respectively x3 < 1248466705 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun it says the key isn't valid < 1248466706 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth < 1248466722 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two more rules for non-argument modification of phrases, and for logical conjunction of phrases < 1248466741 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are relatively minor and not terribly interesting < 1248466749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok.. found the issue < 1248466753 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hidden newline at the end -_- < 1248466775 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ehird, those few rules actually handle the core of the grammar of english < 1248466784 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any language you want, really. < 1248466794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom too though < 1248466883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it seems to work fine atm... < 1248466885 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the head-modifier rule is simply P -> H m[MOD H] (a phrase can look like a head followed by a modifier that requires that kind of head) < 1248466886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries browser < 1248466898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pukes and downloads firefox < 1248466918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's possible to hate IE 8 and prefer Firefox objectively from first click. < 1248466923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pukes at the new design in firefox 3.5 < 1248466924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since, y'know, they look mostly the same. < 1248466933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh come on. Firefox 3.5 vastly improved the UI. < 1248466939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just a massive conservative. < 1248466949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I still prefer the 1.5 look < 1248466951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1248466952 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the conjunction rule is P[SYN a] -> c1[SYN a]...cn[SYN a] x[HEAD conj] cn+1[SYN a] < 1248466956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I said, you're just a massive conservative. < 1248466985 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which just says a phrase with syntactic features a can have a bunch of other constituents with the same syntactic features, the last two separated by a conjunction < 1248466989 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, No. you claimed I was a socialist a few days ago. You can't call me right wing/conservative today < 1248466994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1248467006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just inconsistent. < 1248467014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and windows is installing update 36 < 1248467019 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster, he lives in Oceania < 1248467023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, a socialist who's also rigidly opposed to change is also an idiot, but that's nothing new. < 1248467029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, what is that a reference too < 1248467030 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to* < 1248467032 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248467033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: … < 1248467035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1248467036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop talking now. < 1248467038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like… forever. < 1248467046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe an extra day on top of that too. < 1248467053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean < 1248467054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1248467062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Australia and the islands around there < 1248467064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I remember how to use Google now. < 1248467067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1248467068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not used to that name in Swedish < 1248467069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, not. < 1248467069 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1248467075 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, thats precisely what i mean, anmaster. < 1248467076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that. < 1248467085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, right < 1248467121 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird lives in britain, one of the larger islands in the austropolynesian islands. < 1248467153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LONG LIVE L10N UNDER WINDOWS < 1248467165 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was unaware that Britain was austropolynesian < 1248467176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I have a dir called C:\Program Files but shown as C:\Program. And one that is actually named C:\Program < 1248467180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both exists side by side < 1248467181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1248467192 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: its part of oceania, therefore it must be! < 1248467219 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Hahah. < 1248467371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what do you think of this wtf? < 1248467392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it reboots for updates < 1248467394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yawn* < 1248467395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1248467449 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find key for bios settings hm < 1248467450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1248467470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION guesses and press the usual ones < 1248467477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Del, F*) < 1248467495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nop < 1248467538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I created a new account and set the first one to normal user now < 1248467596 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, Oceania has always been at war with Sweden. < 1248467758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is F1 but it doesn't list it < 1248467764 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! < 1248467833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh it lists a parallel port? *looks at the computer* < 1248467842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*finds none* < 1248467867 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the computer *does* seem to have a serial port though. Or maybe some mini vga < 1248467876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah mini vga or whatever < 1248467882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a display symbol at it < 1248467919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew vga < 1248467930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, or dvi < 1248467933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1248467938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't the usual size of either anyway < 1248467943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's smaller < 1248467951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mini-dvi? < 1248467956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1248467958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an apple thing < 1248467964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well was < 1248467972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well it isn't the same shape as the apple mini dvi < 1248467976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I have seen < 1248467982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit like vga, but smaller < 1248467989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a pic (your screen w/ camera can bend and rotate arbitrarily right?) < 1248468032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sets up bios password < 1248468061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh it has a setting for VT_d < 1248468062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1248468066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VT-d < 1248468080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seems to be for I/O virtualization < 1248468081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all non-entry-level intel chips and all amd chips have virtualization < 1248468090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes but *IO* such < 1248468091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(intel entry = celeron) < 1248468095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1248468114 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as opposed to just CPU VT < 1248468121 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IOMMU < 1248468123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd < 1248468131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1248468134 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chipset feature. < 1248468144 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Supported by most every chipset. < 1248468149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ah < 1248468242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It virtualises the hardware interrupt table and the DMA controller in hardware. < 1248468259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1248468363 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Abandonando" < 1248468369 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1248468496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw, this does have the fingerprint thing. Not that I'm going to use it < 1248468502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that would be insecure < 1248468509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't -lessen- security < 1248468528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes it can, compare: boot by fingerprint or boot by password < 1248468540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not using fingerprints < 1248468541 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"require both" doesn't seem to be an option in the bios < 1248468547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's using fingerprints and dropping passwords < 1248468552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes. < 1248468553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not the same as using fingerprints < 1248468558 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, agreed < 1248468587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be the first in line for a brain implant which carries around an authentication key for me < 1248468590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway setup bios setup password and boot password now < 1248468596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, someone will hack it :D < 1248468600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe second in line < 1248468605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't want to risk it after all < 1248468611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it'd work like gpg < 1248468619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all they could do is steal a message signed by you < 1248468627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or encrypted by you < 1248468629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, uhh, big deal :P < 1248468634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pgp; gpg is an implementation < 1248468635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, side channel attack < 1248468636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1248468641 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching your toilet < 1248468642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248468649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't see people doing that :-P < 1248468657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacking poop would be a fun job though < 1248468658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh what is this button < 1248468660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiny < 1248468662 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks < 1248468665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "Launch missiles" < 1248468670 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Power off"? < 1248468673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sadly much more boring... PC card ejection thingy < 1248468677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Be shiny" < 1248468681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It commands the button to be shiny. < 1248468684 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1248468692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh windows vista is *configuring* the updates now < 1248468696 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it installed them before rebootinbg < 1248468697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can keep pressing it and it'll still be shiny. < 1248468699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :booting* < 1248468709 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, having fingerprint thingy highers the risk that someone who REALLY need to get into your computer cuts of your finger? < 1248468722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1248468726 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, MythBusters sez "fingerprint scanners suck. A lot." < 1248468727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, good point. < 1248468729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put the password first. < 1248468730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, it is easy to fake it anyway < 1248468731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: No shit. < 1248468734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody uses them. < 1248468749 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/of/off/ < 1248468750 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, just need something I touched. and a laserprinter < 1248468750 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1248468756 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1248468756 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and some glue iirc < 1248468774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, anyway, point is: fingerprints aren't very secure < 1248468781 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not, yeah < 1248468784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask ehird for a link < 1248468790 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he provided one some days ago < 1248468792 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it weeks < 1248468793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1248468794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ask google for a link < 1248468796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something < 1248468798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: months, prolly < 1248468800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i've forgotten < 1248468800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1248468803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay i don't remember weeks either < 1248468803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right < 1248468811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or for that matter a significant quantity of days < 1248468824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should start using a super-quick note-taking application; my memory is rather volatile < 1248468829 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe an amount of hours? < 1248468833 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or seconds, even? < 1248468845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: sorry, did you say something? < 1248468851 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248468882 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least IRC has the benefit of logs < 1248468896 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real life needs public logging < 1248468901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok: don't rename user you are logged in as < 1248468904 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not too much logging < 1248468906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fucks up the desktop bg < 1248468908 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reasonj < 1248468910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reason* < 1248468927 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would that affect the bg? :\ < 1248468932 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange OS is strange < 1248468932 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, no clue < 1248468936 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's vista < 1248468945 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's strange, that's what I said, yeah < 1248468956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1248468970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: directory < 1248468979 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1248468979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or registry < 1248468980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :path not updated < 1248468983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably < 1248468983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1248468983 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be that < 1248468984 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1248468992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i've never heard of it before sooooo < 1248469005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i broke xp one time by renaming a user i think < 1248469010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i just made a new user < 1248469052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, currently logged in one was the issue < 1248469086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah I think it was registry that failed < 1248469234 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently you can buy dried bull penis as a chew toy for dogs. < 1248469259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hawt. < 1248469264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :waioty < 1248469266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1248469267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another update < 1248469272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was done last time < 1248469278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now it is downloading another two updates < 1248469279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth < 1248469294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a bit, a service pack and a bit behind. < 1248469305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh < 1248469306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1248469317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, didn't you forgot one comma there < 1248469321 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget* < 1248469327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Oxford comma is not standard, no. < 1248469329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do sometimes use it. < 1248469338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err not that < 1248469344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was: < 1248469345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1248469353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a bit (a service pack and a bit) behind." < 1248469357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1248469372 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/"// < 1248469405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw about that suspend thing: did you mean it suspends to disk and to ram, and it case of battery running out it is still possible to wake it from disk? < 1248469418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you mean it ends suspend to ram too after a few minutes? < 1248469426 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former I found out how to do < 1248469430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter: no clue < 1248469459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows is shutting down it says < 1248469462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it does suspend-to-ram, then while it sits there, writes to disk < 1248469463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then shuts off < 1248469467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the disk light is going like mad < 1248469471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it might not shut off < 1248469472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't konw < 1248469475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter < 1248469475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm ok... don't know how to do that < 1248469478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's like 0.1 watt < 1248469488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no reason to just do regular suspend to ram < 1248469492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and suspend to disk just takes years < 1248469499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I read on thinkwiki that disabling WOL can save quite a bit < 1248469509 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is interesting < 1248469514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would a laptop need WOL anyway < 1248469532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1248469541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they use regular chipsets + some stuff. < 1248469542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1248469546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1248469549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: people use laptops as machines on a desk < 1248469550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with wires < 1248469558 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh I found the ultrabay ejection thingy < 1248469576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like a small lever that pops out a thingy that you use to pull out the drive < 1248469591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1248469593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err not lever < 1248469598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like a sliding thingy < 1248469599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more < 1248469624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1248469704 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fn-space is mapped it seems < 1248469707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure to WHAT < 1248469718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really they are running out of keys soon < 1248469728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't desktops have that Fn key < 1248469992 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hooks bluetooth up to his phone < 1248470305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is "My computer" on the desktop < 1248470308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather < 1248470313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is the setting to activate it < 1248470350 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Right-click desktop -> personalize -> change desktop icons < 1248470400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, *looks in Swedish windows* < 1248470401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1248470404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personalize? < 1248470406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find that < 1248470413 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the bottom one here < 1248470418 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under "New ->" < 1248470429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh you meant in the right click menu < 1248470433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was already past that < 1248470447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1248470453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems lenovo replaced the computer icon < 1248470457 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, "x -> y" tends to imply that y is under x < 1248470472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the outline of a laptop in a black circle < 1248470474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1248470520 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That can presumably be changed, don't ask me how < 1248470818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something is accessing the disk very bussily < 1248470821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what < 1248470896 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :procmon will tell you if you care < 1248470898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it managed to go to rest when I wanted to shut down very strange < 1248470901 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably the search indexer < 1248470913 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1248470916 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like an updatedb that constantly runs in the background at low priority < 1248470933 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disabled the service after it was still going after a couple of months, it started to annoy me < 1248470955 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1248470976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since a laptop isn't always on, cron won't work well < 1248470977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm < 1248471005 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never really search for anything anyway < 1248471043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get the classical windows login dialog btw? Like "Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to login" < 1248471053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew how under XP but... < 1248471060 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beats me, I have this remember my password so I don't get a dialog < 1248471089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, insecure < 1248471109 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If somebody gets on this machine everything is lost anyway < 1248471119 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't care at that point whether they can login or not :-P < 1248471174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fixed the icons < 1248471180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was just change the theme to the standard one < 1248471187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then change back the desktop bg < 1248471191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to a sane plain colour < 1248471254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it beep loudly when you plug/unplug power < 1248471261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, single tone bios beep < 1248471266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than windows sound < 1248471274 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, mine doesn't :-P < 1248471341 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, how do you disable the index thingy < 1248471355 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control panel -> services IIRC < 1248471377 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively windows explorer has the search settings < 1248471395 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure which one, or is it both < 1248471622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok scary. The think admin utils doesn't seem to need you to auth as an admin < 1248471635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1248471641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:08 AnMaster: why doesn't desktops have that Fn key < 1248471643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they di < 1248471673 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d? < 1248471681 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, they do? < 1248471694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep: < 1248471701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not most < 1248471706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.apple.com/keyboard/images/gallery/wired_4_20090306.jpg and http://images.apple.com/keyboard/images/gallery/wireless_1_20070813.jpg < 1248471709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: all macs < 1248471717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not most non-macs < 1248471718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except mac pros < 1248471722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for mac pros, you have the option of http://images.apple.com/keyboard/images/gallery/wired_1_20070813.jpg < 1248471725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has no fn < 1248471733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: macs are like 10% of the market, soo < 1248471740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a substantial portion with fn < 1248471759 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But without other modifier keys, so :-P < 1248471772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Eh? < 1248471783 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see alt or altgr < 1248471791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Option. < 1248471796 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows key, then? < 1248471798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple = Windows. < 1248471802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1248471804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the place of interest sign) < 1248471807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hoopy thing. < 1248471815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Apple = Windows. < 1248471816 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :52| Apple = Windows. < 1248471816 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's no menu key < 1248471826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: thank god for that < 1248471828 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're missing at least one there :-P < 1248471830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, was great out of context :D < 1248471833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the menu key is terribly useless < 1248471838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can get kbs without it < 1248471839 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if you remap it < 1248471840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooo < 1248471841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1248471847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :desktop != pc that's totally windowsy < 1248471851 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, useful, since you remap it to the super key < 1248471860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, you remap command to thta < 1248471861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1248471863 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows is the super key < 1248471865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, no remapping < 1248471867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already is that. < 1248471867 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used menu as compose < 1248471877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, fn control option command shift < 1248471879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah < 1248471882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i wanted more i'd kill myself < 1248471883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about meta then < 1248471888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: option, duh < 1248471892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := alt < 1248471905 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1248471908 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On this keyboard I've got two unmapped modifier keys < 1248471918 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I could use for something but haven't bothered to figure out what < 1248471931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ap.org/media/images/APnewsregistry.jpg < 1248471931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Let's make bits uncopiable. This way, our outdated, useless business model can be jerked off some more. < 1248471937 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1248471943 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a bit weak < 1248471948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was? < 1248471952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The image or my commentary? < 1248471956 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The image < 1248471958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1248471988 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because DRM worked so well for the music companies. < 1248472050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do they ship a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit system < 1248472053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense < 1248472064 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More compatible < 1248472075 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ... 64-bit OSes can run 32-bit code < 1248472082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for x86_64 at least < 1248472086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that makes no sense < 1248472087 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not drivers < 1248472099 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not /all/ drivers, rather < 1248472102 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Because a lot of Windows driver authors hate writing 64-bit drivers. < 1248472103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, microkernel and have drivers in userspace < 1248472117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, not a huge difference? < 1248472117 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Windows. < 1248472119 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeaaah, let's write our own microkernel OS so we can run a 64-bit OS here < 1248472123 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... not < 1248472131 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: NT is nominally a microkernel OS. < 1248472131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, :P < 1248472141 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nominally :-P < 1248472142 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I say "nominally" because its microkernel is not that micro) < 1248472146 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1248472154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microkernels suck. < 1248472154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, and it is nominally POSIX compatible too < 1248472166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you think QNZ sucks? < 1248472166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many drivers for Vista and up are in userspace. < 1248472169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QNX* < 1248472175 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: With Interix, more than nominally. < 1248472178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why you seem to love QNX so much. < 1248472192 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, some of the software on it is outdated. < 1248472200 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To fix that, you can install Gentoo Prefix on it. < 1248472220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Interix? < 1248472236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interix < 1248472236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : To fix that, you can install Gentoo Prefix on it. <-- ARGH < 1248472238 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft's POSIX subsystem. < 1248472240 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gentoo/Windows? < 1248472244 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1248472250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more wth than Gentoo/FreeBSD < 1248472265 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also install Debian on it. < 1248472267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, not an official project I guess? < 1248472276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray for Debian/kFreeBSD. < 1248472284 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gentoo/Windows? Official Gentoo project. < 1248472291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, if I did debian I would get *MORE* outdated < 1248472293 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not *LESS* < 1248472296 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considered "beta", like the rest of Gentoo Prefix, but. < 1248472306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Debian unstable is cutting edge. < 1248472307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unlike gmail < 1248472307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, stable. < 1248472309 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ... GCC 2? < 1248472310 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true < 1248472326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, oh ok < 1248472328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1248472329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1248472331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC 2? < 1248472333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1248472336 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interix is fucking outdated. < 1248472346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's your mom < 1248472356 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why you install a different userspace on there. < 1248472356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interix claims it uses 3.3 < 1248472357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1248472368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, they updated. < 1248472388 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian Stable is really rather up-to-date these days, though. < 1248472408 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tends to ship versions of GCC before Gentoo. XD < 1248472455 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gentoo is rather slow these days. < 1248472474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gentoo is rather suck……… all days. < 1248472491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok.. "ThinkVantage System Update" (some Lenovo thingy) wants to update bios < 1248472497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm interesting < 1248472547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? no floppy? < 1248472560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or don't you need that nowdays? < 1248472602 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably it has instructions you can follow? < 1248472618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: CD-Rom or USB stick. < 1248472620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to just install it with no need for going outside windows < 1248472621 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, you don't always need that nowadays < 1248472623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ROM < 1248472624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1248472632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Zomg! You can do things at kernel-level. < 1248472636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Scary". < 1248472646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you were arguing for a simulation hypothesis right? < 1248472683 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1248472694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :universe being simulated. < 1248472759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok nice update listing < 1248472771 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :categories: Critical, Recommended, Optional, Extra, Additional < 1248472772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no? < 1248472777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the difference between the last three? < 1248472795 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Windows. Abandon all logic, ye who enter here. < 1248472798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: categories: Maybe This Would Be a Good One, Actually If You Don't Want It That's Fine, Uhh I Think You Might Want This One < 1248472814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, quite < 1248472828 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optional is for crap like dreamscene < 1248472838 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Additional has stuff like language packs < 1248472841 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what comes in Extra < 1248472873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no it is in the lenovo update tool < 1248472876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in windows update < 1248472887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, http://thereifixedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/yoshi-keys.jpg < 1248472896 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1248472898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :extra and additional are both empty < 1248472902 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, windows update has something similar < 1248472909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, kay < 1248472913 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too many categories anyways < 1248472919 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(More than 2) < 1248472933 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Well, that's one kind of plug adapter. < 1248472942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: It's a HARDCORE plug adapter. < 1248472955 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I'm fine with Critical/Recommended/Optional < 1248472964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apart from that all seems unneeded < 1248472974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not sure what the point of "optional" is in a update tool < 1248472987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that indicates *we want you to install a new software you didn't have before* < 1248473038 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not "updating" as such < 1248473151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I don't seethe point of that keyboard light atm... it is dark and the screen itself gives enough light < 1248473181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you turn down the screen backlight e.g. to read a book on screen < 1248473194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool they have a "zoom screen" thingy on one Fn key combo < 1248473205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what? it just changes screen resolution < 1248473212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cool" was sarcastic < 1248473214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1248473230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised you're able to use the screen; Windows defaults to 96dpi. Everything'll be so itty bitty. < 1248473246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it seems they set it up to right DPI in advance < 1248473254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it < 1248473259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That generally makes windows iffy < 1248473265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't handle non-96 dpis well. < 1248473278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok correct < 1248473283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they set the font sizes < 1248473292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1248473301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually doesn't look too bad < 1248473313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as good as proper system-wide dpi settings < 1248473324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well true < 1248473348 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it isn't like I will use windows much. But it was good that I did, or I would have missed the BIOS update < 1248473360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just wipe it altogether. Takes up space. < 1248473372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if Arch has a freetype package with the BCI < 1248473392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I will wipe it once the bios update is installed < 1248473398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a recovery cd included < 1248473400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The Pre is now telling your computer that the vendor who made it is Apple. The change here is that with previous versions of webOS, the Vendor ID was “0 × 0830 (Palm Inc.).†So while previously the Pre identified itself as a “mass storage device†called an iPod, now it’s identifying itself as a “mass storage device manufactured by Apple†called an iPod.]] < 1248473423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palm: Turns out we're fucked up financially. Let's be like Kim Jong-Il and launch our nukes! < 1248473433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple: Stop that. *fixes iTunes* < 1248473440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palm: *shove* I DIDN'T SHOVE YOU < 1248473442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple: … < 1248473470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1248473473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[This is a direct violation of the USB licensing agreement. But, in what can only be described as true chutzpah, Palm has preemptively filed a complaint against Apple to the USB Implementors Forum, accusing Apple of misusing the USB Vendor ID. ]] < 1248473488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err < 1248473489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1248473490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palm: Not only did I not shove you, you shoved me! < 1248473497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't know either < 1248473500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palm appear to be on crack < 1248473518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1248473531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is itunes locked to ipods? < 1248473536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1248473543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why do they want to do that < 1248473545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Palm aren't happy with being classed as a regular device. < 1248473554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they pose as an iPod to get features that iTunes only does for iPods. < 1248473560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, like? < 1248473566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure. < 1248473584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, apparently users find a separate syncing application totally unacceptable. < 1248473589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why every other phone ever has one. < 1248473591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, wait. < 1248473599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :handheld? < 1248473605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ? < 1248473624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, phone or hand held computer < 1248473634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or both? < 1248473639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Both; they're called smartphones. < 1248473644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah those < 1248473650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :newfangled stuff < 1248473651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248473656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, like 2004 new. < 1248473668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah. Ask me again in 2024 < 1248473681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tons of Nokia phones... iPhone... T-Mobile G1 (aka Google Phone)... < 1248473684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every Palm phone ever < 1248473688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every Windows Mobile phone ever < 1248473699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1248473709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/why_did_no_one_inform_us_of_the < 1248473725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot believe Yu Wan Mei would release their tight but benevolent grip on The Onion! < 1248473729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it no longer fish time?! < 1248473751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is, perhaps, robustness now AVOIDABLE with the consumption of Yu Wan Mei products? < 1248473881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, very strange joke... < 1248473916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Are you perhaps questioning the undeniable wisdom & infallibility of Yu Wan Mei corporation and the Chinese government? < 1248473918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great... windows update wants me to restart while lenovo update is installing stuff < 1248473928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sit there and refuse to answer it. < 1248474078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it decided to reboot anyway < 1248474080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what did < 1248474091 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might have been windows or lenvo *shrug* < 1248474100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows is all about the reboots. < 1248474110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I find it queer how long this is taking. < 1248474118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it was saying installing updated wifi driver < 1248474121 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at worst that will break < 1248474125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not likely bios will break < 1248474157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Linux laptop that's two major releases behind would be updated in, what, half an hour? An old Mac laptop, about 20 minutes. < 1248474181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, apart from the major OS X release boundary; but Linux updates are far more incremental so the minors are more a applicable analogy) < 1248474187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this Windows thing? What's it been, 3-4 hours? < 1248474212 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3-4 hours is an unreasonable update length even for Gentoo. < 1248474246 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the worst part about it is that Windows doesn't have an automated update process. < 1248474255 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to hand-hold Windows through it. < 1248474261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd make a policy to only buy laptops with Linux or OS X on them, but System76 unfortunately don't ship to the UK. < 1248474273 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 3 or 4 hours yes < 1248474276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't done yet < 1248474294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also System76 laptops are kinda… heavy; their first 15" starts at 2.6kg. < 1248474309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that isn't too bad < 1248474320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a 12" one a few years ago that was close to 3 kg < 1248474322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but that's e.g. with one stick of RAM. < 1248474324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah it was around 1999 or so < 1248474326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a one-platter HD. < 1248474333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a mac < 1248474336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no extra battery thingy. < 1248474337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a first model ibook < 1248474341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc, etc. < 1248474365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Mac laptops are ridiculously light nowadays < 1248474393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 17" MacBook Pro is 2.99kg. < 1248474409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... there is a strange entry in the lenvo meny that roughly translates to "make system younger"... right below update system < 1248474416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1248474416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't dare to click on it < 1248474418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: system restore? < 1248474423 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/w3mLP&7R8oCl <- OK... < 1248474427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah, that is one post below that! < 1248474428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: anyway, why do you use swedish operating systems? < 1248474435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you said you only knew tech terms in english < 1248474448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: Did it come with your BOOTLOADER?!?!?! < 1248474449 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well. windows was in Swedish < 1248474452 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buying a system in Sweden generally gets you a Swedish OS < 1248474454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not much of a choice then? < 1248474458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ah, right < 1248474477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually Windows asked if I wanted to use Swedish, Finnish or Spanish at first boot < 1248474483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English was not an option < 1248474485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What an odd choice. < 1248474486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it said I couldn't change latter < 1248474489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Spanish common in Sweden or something? < 1248474491 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should've gone Finnish, it's much better < 1248474492 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah I selected Swedish < 1248474493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nop < 1248474496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there's a substantial amount of Finns; i.e. Torvalds. < 1248474501 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, can't read that < 1248474512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wait < 1248474515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Torvalds is the other way around < 1248474519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Swedish-speaker in Finland < 1248474534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still those countries kinda blend together know what i mean :D < 1248474537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well yeah Finnish makes sense. You could even imagine Swedish/Finnish/Dannish/Norwegian for some sort of "generic Scandinavian pre-install" < 1248474543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Spannish? Huh? < 1248474551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spannnnnnish. < 1248474559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typoish < 1248474566 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see English/Spanish. I can see Swedish/Finnish/Danish/Norwegian. < 1248474582 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see Swedish/Finnish/Spanish. < 1248474585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Si taht wenh uyo sepak lkei tihs? < 1248474620 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sí < 1248474625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no it didn't install those things < 1248474629 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just rebooted anyway < 1248474636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so another 13 lenovo updates to install < 1248474639 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what? < 1248474643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, sí, it's OK on the sea. < 1248474657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Typoish for "Is that when you speak like this?" < 1248474677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I can't see Swedish/Finnish/Spanish. <-- I could. I saw the damn list! < 1248474693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did have to read it twice to convince myself though < 1248474694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq has some weird mental blocks. < 1248474697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: can you see this? fnord < 1248474719 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, where's the fnord-bot < 1248474726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Which? < 1248474729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we've ever had one. < 1248474732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it sounds fun. < 1248474733 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot of course < 1248474734 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : pikhq: can you see this? <-- don't be silly, you think he is blind or something? < 1248474735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1248474736 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord fnord fnord < 1248474739 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, fix fungot < 1248474746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :-D < 1248474746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, :D < 1248474752 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, HAH I was faster! < 1248474757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not here! < 1248474760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, meh < 1248474762 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Off by a second here < 1248474762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but here I was < 1248474768 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo I have usurped fungot! < 1248474769 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so I was faster there then? < 1248474770 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have usurped fungot! < 1248474772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:32:26 oerjan: :-D < 1248474772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:32:26 oerjan, :D < 1248474773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/09.07.24 < 1248474774 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, slow by a second < 1248474775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :End of story < 1248474778 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-07-25 00:32:25 ( ehird) oerjan: :-D < 1248474778 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-07-25 00:32:26 ( AnMaster) oerjan, :D < 1248474779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, meh- < 1248474782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee < 1248474786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both were same second here < 1248474791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and client says 0.01s lag < 1248474803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, same tiem < 1248474804 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time* < 1248474808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248474812 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well _i_ saw ehird first and clearly that is what counts < 1248474813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Deewiant's was one second before < 1248474819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the only one to report being first < 1248474824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Deewiant has shown two different times < 1248474825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooooooooooo < 1248474830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: anyway, the lag for your messages are inherently 0s < 1248474844 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err? < 1248474851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0s. < 1248474853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs 0.01s < 1248474859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yours has an advantage < 1248474861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inherently < 1248474885 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok why can't windows ask all the "supplemental licenses" at the start < 1248474888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like OS X does < 1248474896 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than when each update is installing < 1248474918 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, at least you can install the OS in one go these days < 1248474921 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.01s is so lagom < 1248474930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, huh? you couldn't before? < 1248474940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I even installed windows 98 < 1248474943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: iTunes on OS X gives you the EULA when you start it up after an upgrade < 1248474944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't remember such issues < 1248474944 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With XP I got used to planning it; in 30 minutes it'll ask about they keyboard layout, an hour after that about a license, half hour after that it'll want a user account name < 1248474946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is irritating < 1248474949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes lots of questions < 1248474952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmgs with licenses don't do that though < 1248474957 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, they should provide diffs < 1248474971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you can legally agree to a diff < 1248474971 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm ok < 1248474975 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I hadn't yet got used to planning it it was really annoyng < 1248474978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hah < 1248474983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: nLite or whatever. < 1248474987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing that lets you script installs. < 1248474988 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go away for two hours and realize it's only 20% done and waiting to know what keyboard layout to use < 1248475003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Windows Scripted Install Toolkit thingy thingy? < 1248475006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1248475007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unofficial < 1248475012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gave it parameters, pretty much anything < 1248475013 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there was an official one too < 1248475014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even skipping IE < 1248475021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it burned an install disk < 1248475036 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: nlite wasn't always out < 1248475041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1248475041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, skipping IE = breaking windows update back then < 1248475045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No. < 1248475048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a firefox plugin for it. < 1248475052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh! < 1248475053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: More pertinently, it broke help. < 1248475058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, I think, explorer.exe. < 1248475059 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1248475059 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can't always be bothered to burn another disc just for an unattended install < 1248475062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ouch < 1248475062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And everything else. < 1248475065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1248475065 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did use it at least once, though < 1248475074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft weren't actually bullshitting when they said IE was integrated. < 1248475076 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help doesn't matter < 1248475080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just used the HTML component in a fuckload of places. < 1248475081 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always disable the help service < 1248475082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, it does. < 1248475089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, same < 1248475091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're uber-leet and just click things to find out what they do. < 1248475102 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The help is useless 99% of the time anyway < 1248475106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1248475112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ThinkPad Video Features(Intel GM45)" <-- huh? < 1248475116 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting update name < 1248475119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: video card. < 1248475119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelled like that < 1248475122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :missing the space too < 1248475122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's cause Windows software sucks. < 1248475126 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think people who aren't lawyers shouldn't be allowed to accept EULAs and such things without passing a small test that they have understood it. this should nicely force the industry to simplify the stuff to something sane. < 1248475128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Chinese company. < 1248475130 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes but what is the "Features" bit there for < 1248475137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Chinese company. < 1248475141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah < 1248475143 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The test is often that you've scrolled down to the bottom < 1248475156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It worked before we figured out how to drag scrollbars! < 1248475158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the "lenovo update" thingy is in mixed English and Swedish < 1248475165 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yes, i.e. never < 1248475175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Maybe Windows 1! < 1248475187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wait. < 1248475188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOS had it. < 1248475189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1248475191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather < 1248475193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like: < 1248475206 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"please state which of these alternatives is true for this EULA" < 1248475210 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and provide three alternatives < 1248475219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 4-5 questions like that < 1248475223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noo < 1248475226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :outlaw multi choice! < 1248475252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god I hate updates starting an installer you have to click through < 1248475263 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get used to it :-P < 1248475267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you updating Windows instead of wiping it? < 1248475279 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just wondering that myself < 1248475285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, for the bios update. You couldn't select it without selecting all the critical windows updates too < 1248475288 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're going to wipe it anyway < 1248475290 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is quite wtf < 1248475297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Download it manually from the site… < 1248475298 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1248475299 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1248475301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, maybe < 1248475309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whacks AnMaster with a cluebat < 1248475320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, have to find where though < 1248475330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lenovo.com, biosmanufacturer.com < 1248475347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/product.do?doctypeind=9&template=%2Fproductselection%2Flandingpages%2FdownloadsDriversLandingPage.vm&sitestyle=lenovo < 1248475350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Downloads and drivers. < 1248475350 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... it is almost done < 1248475456 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1248475465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BIOS flash utility": < 1248475470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Select one of the following tasks: < 1248475477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ) Update ThinkPad BIOS < 1248475481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ) Update model number < 1248475483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1248475485 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248475491 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ) Transmogrify system < 1248475492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ) Update your mom < 1248475512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chances on the first one < 1248475523 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What "huh", isn't that rather self-explanatory < 1248475528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1248475532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck is updating model number < 1248475555 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can set the model number < 1248475561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what? < 1248475568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This only makes sense to you, Deewiant. < 1248475579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION agrees with Deewiant < 1248475587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1248475589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with ehird < 1248475592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248475593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was hard to say < 1248475606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I didn't want universe to collapse < 1248475612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1248475614 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1248475616 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster agrees with ehird? < 1248475617 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG < 1248475620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248475621 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The universe is going to end! < 1248475627 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, the serial number in the BIOS < 1248475628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's happened like 30 times < 1248475633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just hasn't vigorously agreed yet < 1248475638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: "Update", not change. < 1248475642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why on earth would you want to? < 1248475644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What purpose has that? < 1248475645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it there? < 1248475646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1248475648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1248475649 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's been set incorrectly? < 1248475649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1248475651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1248475653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? < 1248475655 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=10482 < 1248475657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why does it matter? < 1248475659 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a case where somebody needed it < 1248475667 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I think it's definitely the IBM service's fault. They haven't entered the machine type number and the system unit serial number when they replaced the mobo. Call them, and they are going to fix in a few days. " < 1248475673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets see what happens now < 1248475675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so you understand it because YOU'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH IT. < 1248475679 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I haven't < 1248475682 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen that before < 1248475687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you're just insane. < 1248475688 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's FUCKING OBVIOUS < 1248475691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1248475692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really not < 1248475704 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it might be related to that "make system younger"? < 1248475705 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading "update" as "change" is not really a humongous leap of logic < 1248475722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: it's a very awkward sentence < 1248475729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, that just applies anti-aging cream to the heatsink. < 1248475736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*heatsinks, rather < 1248475736 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only a bit IMO < 1248475736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1248475742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\n\././ < 1248475747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm a native speaker, QED :-P < 1248475749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So's GregorR. < 1248475756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.5 vs 0.5. < 1248475779 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/update < 1248475779 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuh uh. I speak American. That's ENGLISH. < 1248475782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok bios rebooted itself a few times then booted as normal < 1248475786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1248475787 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. Computers. to incorporate new or more accurate information in (a database, program, procedure, etc.). < 1248475801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It was awkward. You cannot dispute something's awkwardness by citing a dictionary. < 1248475811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was so awkward, in fact, that we needed clarification to understand it. < 1248475822 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Retain usage of the word 'update' and make it less awkward < 1248475838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's a pointless exercise. < 1248475853 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would making the system younger be updating or downdating, i wonder < 1248475855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's how I would phrase it: "Fix our retarded incompetence that we bundled a fix to with a totally unrelated update" < 1248475882 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a different issue :-P < 1248475889 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they're not totally unrelated < 1248475907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um < 1248475913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're both to do with the BIOS. One's a routine upgrade, one's a stupid problem someone had once. < 1248475917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, UPDATE in SQL? < 1248475926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that is not what makes it awkward < 1248475928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the whole sentence < 1248475951 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That tool might easily be something admin-folks use all the time < 1248475958 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the lenovo side, I mea < 1248475959 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1248475972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, internal tools taken as a mark of good UI design for external tools. < 1248475975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION claps < 1248475994 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a BIOS flashing utility < 1248476006 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMFG < 1248476007 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHUT UP < 1248476009 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JUST SHUT UP < 1248476009 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They generally aren't meant for the UI-uneducated anyway < 1248476009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going nowhere < 1248476015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh really? < 1248476015 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are aquatic aardvarks awkward? < 1248476018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why is it bundled as a ROUTINE UPGRADE. < 1248476021 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does this channel have such fekking stupid conversations? < 1248476021 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY < 1248476023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, for ALL USERS. < 1248476027 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Why do you listen? < 1248476033 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Beats me. :-P < 1248476043 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because somebody thought it was important but nobody cares about UI? < 1248476044 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, I come back six-hundred lines in and go "gee, it would be nice if this wasn't going on." < 1248476057 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how a silent channel is an improvement < 1248476065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476069 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476072 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is terrible. < 1248476073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is sure we could emulate usual argumentative structure with just blank messages < 1248476096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476100 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats ehird -----### < 1248476106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476133 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is sure that the structure is quite indistinguishable from the structure of pretty much any other conversation < 1248476142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Just try it! < 1248476146 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's what we should all do: Record an example sentence in our accent, then try to emulate each others' accents. We will all have a hearty laugh at how terrible we sound, and we won't be talking about this any more :P < 1248476150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine my messages, fill in words that fit the structure and speed, < 1248476152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a response < 1248476158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and type a blank message in time. < 1248476159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now. < 1248476159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248476165 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'd rather go to bed. < 1248476168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that. < 1248476168 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zzz -> < 1248476170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248476171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248476199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, what is wrong about talking about lenovo fuckups? < 1248476208 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and windows fuckups < 1248476215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love inane conversations < 1248476218 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talking about the exact semantics of some stupid sentence used in a tool involved therein is stupid :P < 1248476220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : No you don't < 1248476246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. a new user called "login with fingerprint" has been installed < 1248476250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by one of the updates < 1248476253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HUH? < 1248476264 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, my name is L. W. Fingerprint. < 1248476265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: if you click it, it'll ask for a fingerprint with their app < 1248476266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is listed as a user < 1248476267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then switch user < 1248476268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably < 1248476272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, probably < 1248476273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can't hook in to the login process < 1248476275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why in the user list < 1248476278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah < 1248476282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so you can set it as auto user < 1248476285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you never have to say who you are < 1248476287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use your fingerprint < 1248476298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably < 1248476300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you can actually. At the top of the screen when it first booted as a "please set up your fingerprint" < 1248476306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1248476309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in that way at least < 1248476328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway you can provide new auth plugins under windows < 1248476338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably this way is much esir < 1248476339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier < 1248476392 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, my hostname is just an IP right now. That's no good. < 1248476407 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248476409 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1248476417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**fizzie evolves into FIS@IRIS.ZEM.FI!** < 1248476421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+5 hp < 1248476424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+4 atk < 1248476428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 def < 1248476435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Press A to continue) < 1248476445 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A < 1248476454 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((Gameboy music.)) < 1248476456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are in a field. < 1248476459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is grass. < 1248476463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a person and you have pokemans. < 1248476471 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pokemans? < 1248476471 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248476472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can go in any direction. < 1248476474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from up and down. < 1248476481 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoilsport < 1248476482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't go up and down. This game is two-dimensional. < 1248476488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1248476490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three. < 1248476495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can't travel in time, either. < 1248476502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awaiting move. < 1248476508 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1248476508 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go west < 1248476519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You go west. < 1248476525 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had to reboot momus, that's why it was gone. Sleeps now, night. -> < 1248476526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is more field with grass in different places. < 1248476530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone looks at you. < 1248476535 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat grass < 1248476538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you must fight them. < 1248476541 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh yeah "make system younger" seems to be the system checkpoint/restore thingy. Or something similar at least < 1248476599 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quit < 1248476695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, fail? < 1248476698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and stay < 1248476726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, you fail < 1248476729 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i merely quit a pokeman game < 1248476733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You eat the grass. < 1248476734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh < 1248476738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's super effective! < 1248476740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Critical hit. < 1248476745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You murder the guy. < 1248476746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bury him. < 1248476748 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248476750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are in a field. < 1248476758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quitting is disallowable. < 1248476783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be "pokemon"? < 1248476791 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You went from Pokémon to something more um < 1248476793 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zork-like? < 1248476797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Pokemans. < 1248476805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: We are alas constrained to one-dimensional media of text. < 1248476808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to the < 1248476809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is this an ehirdism? < 1248476811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*medium < 1248476816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, it's an internetsism. < 1248476820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1248476834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My pokemans, let me show you them. < 1248476835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway. < 1248476836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Act! < 1248476839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the nazis win. < 1248476867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/24/swedish_shortage/ ;; I thought this was, like, lesbians getting sperm out of the banks to swallow it or something before I read past the headline < 1248476880 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_M43ufegq8 < 1248476884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some radical man-haters raided a sperm bank and destroyed it < 1248476885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1248476909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... < 1248476917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : the recovery discs says windows xp on them < 1248476921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell? < 1248476925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248476925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Downgrade disk? < 1248476928 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mars needs women, Sweden needs sperm. < 1248476929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes indeed < 1248476950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You should sue Lenovo to reclaim the Windows tax; there's a guy who did that to all major computer companies and actually got the money back. < 1248476959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you can't buy a non-Windows machine from them < 1248476963 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, windows tax? < 1248476973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i.e., the >$100 you paid to get Windows on it. < 1248476976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without any other choice. < 1248476977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1248476983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway you can from lenovo.... just not by any reseller < 1248476989 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as a company you could < 1248477025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could get Dell to officially suck your dick, too, if it'd bag them £1bil. < 1248477036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not a service that Dell offers. < 1248477039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AT LEAST NOT YET) < 1248477044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(THIS IS AN UNTAPPED MARKET DELL) < 1248477065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248477073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My analogies are perfect. < 1248477078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they aren't < 1248477084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes they are < 1248477090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting windows is like receiving oral sex < 1248477091 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what SHE said! < 1248477092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... sort of. < 1248477098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1248477099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dump her < 1248477104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't love a windows user < 1248477115 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no I meant about " My analogies are perfect." < 1248477126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a joke, sheesh. < 1248477193 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird is the joker < 1248477200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ACT. < 1248477200 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be very afraid < 1248477211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pokemans et you. < 1248477214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE INSIDE A STOMACH. < 1248477219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see no exist but out the butt. < 1248477222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Acids begin to eat you. < 1248477223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Act. < 1248477246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your legs are gone. < 1248477271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are like unto a burger. < 1248477286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many hamfisted legacies are the part of parcels that must be accepted to gain entry? < 1248477293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your brain is meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellting. < 1248477323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL server configuration manager is installed on this < 1248477324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1248477325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pirates eat yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooou < 1248477328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that was just the aaaaaaaaaaacid. < 1248477331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stomach aaaaaaaaacid. < 1248477341 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, < 1248477342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1248477347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You die and are pooped out. < 1248477351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This answers all your questions about SQL Server. < 1248477362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are dead. You are in a field. You are a component of some poop. < 1248477364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Act. < 1248477403 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recycle < 1248477418 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(remember kids, always recycle) < 1248477436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You cycle again. < 1248477441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How your memories of cycling come back to you. < 1248477446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You always rode as a child. < 1248477449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You realise you are dead. < 1248477452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You stop acting. < 1248477454 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *CRASH* < 1248477456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are in a town. < 1248477463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are no longer a component of some poop. < 1248477465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Act. < 1248477520 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248477525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floatatious thuogh you meay be, careless inaction costs live! < 1248477535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actify. < 1248477543 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take a job as a ghost writer < 1248477550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taxpayer taxpair < 1248477552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You become a ghost writer < 1248477555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You write ghosts < 1248477559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They go oooo and fly away < 1248477564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are in a mansion with your newfound riches < 1248477565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Act < 1248477579 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haunt a bit < 1248477610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You go back to your old haunts and cycle. < 1248477619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :History repeats you are in a town youare no longer a component of some poop acct < 1248477643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean to say that the thing that you said was what you said that was < 1248477644 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kill hitler. < 1248477649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(augur: parse that bitch) < 1248477653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You kill hitler < 1248477653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He dies < 1248477655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray < 1248477658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Act < 1248477665 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what? < 1248477670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:20 ehird: Did you mean to say that the thing that you said was what you said that was < 1248477677 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i establish a jewish world order < 1248477686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bronchitis overtakes you < 1248477695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Jewish/Bronchitic World Order is established. < 1248477698 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(carefully hiding the fact i'm not jewish) < 1248477698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You feel vaguely reptilian. < 1248477699 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, do you really want me to parse that? < 1248477704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Yes. < 1248477711 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok give me a moment < 1248477721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACVT < 1248477722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACT < 1248477772 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i start a religion based on the world being a large turtle < 1248477786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare that that you act < 1248477787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Act < 1248477843 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1248477845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1248477846 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i successfully pass a law against acting. then i retire. < 1248477848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in BIOS setup < 1248477854 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under network: < 1248477860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wake On LAN < 1248477864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flash Over LAN < 1248477871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enable Harddive DMA < 1248477886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what has the last option got to do with network? < 1248477899 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, find out how they could mess it up like this < 1248477925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait the help for it is even weirder < 1248477947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foodly -> < 1248477979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[Disabled] May be needed for some older networked SW (e.g. previous versions of RDM) -- see SW document\n-ation. Could slow hard drive performance when booted to the network." < 1248477980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1248477982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1248477994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the \n there was just to illustrate the failed newline < 1248477998 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1248478001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :failed - < 1248478006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong side the the newline < 1248478044 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1248478077 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my roommate is spending half of his Google SoC paycheck on a new computer... < 1248478087 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1248478096 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's going to be some crazy computer. < 1248478133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs memtest just in case < 1248478145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be good to make sure it is good < 1248478601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1248478607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how much is it < 1248478622 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: $2000 < 1248478630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That's not a lot for a computer... < 1248478647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood's new rig + GTX 285 = >$2000 < 1248478683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... 2.93ghz core i7, 12gb ddr3, 80gb Intel X25-M SSD, 1TB storage, GTX 285 < 1248478685 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's sufficient to get 44G of RAM and 16 CPUs if you're willing to not get much else. :P < 1248478688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, absolutely kick-ass. < 1248478689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But. < 1248478698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not like the most amazing gaming rig ever. < 1248478710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You can get 24GB of DDR3 for about $900 < 1248478714 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to know what makes you think that $2000 isn't much. < 1248478721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a lot of money. < 1248478725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not a lot of money for a high-end computer. < 1248478740 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently your idea of "high-end" and mine are in conflict. < 1248478762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's because you aren't on a high-end machine, presumably < 1248478768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything above you tends to look high-end < 1248478769 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: high-end does not generally mean something that you'd expect from Cray. < 1248478780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're a business. < 1248478790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, $2000 won't begin to buy a tenth of the power of a Cray apart from that shitty "entry-level" one. < 1248478797 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1248478814 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$2000 gets you a rather insane computer for a normal person to have, though. < 1248478822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying that $2,000 gets you a nice high-end rig; it doesn't get you a gigantic monster of computing rampage. < 1248478827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Is he a gamer? < 1248478838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but mostly a console gamer. < 1248478853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, a little below $1,000 is what you'd expect a PC gamer to usually pay for a machine that can play the latest games decently. < 1248478857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On a budget) < 1248478862 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(read: owns all the consoles, and all of the games worth having) < 1248478863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: hmm < 1248478886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: $2,000 isn't even enough to get 2x Nehalem, I don't think < 1248478891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Xeon) < 1248478894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, maybe the lowest end Nehalem < 1248478896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1248478899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm talking about just the processors) < 1248478912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: one 3.2ghz nehalem xeon costs $1,500 < 1248478913 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The middle-range is $600 or so. < 1248478920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: dood, that's core i7 < 1248478926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the xeons, which let you go 2x processor, are more expensive < 1248478933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they also support ecc) < 1248478972 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, the i7s are going for $300-400 now. < 1248478978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Wow, where? < 1248478982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly not on newegg, the cheapest place. < 1248478993 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme pull it up. < 1248478993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd love to bag an i7 for that price. < 1248478995 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And see if I need foot in mouth. < 1248479004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248479005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1248479008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you're right < 1248479012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i7 920 for $279.99 < 1248479012 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1248479021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :950 for $569.99 < 1248479025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 975 for $999.999 < 1248479027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1248479027 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mid-range Xeons are $600-ish. < 1248479029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :999.99 < 1248479037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are some killer prices, especially the 920 < 1248479043 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1248479048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: let's hope he isn't stupid and goes for core 2 < 1248479053 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's not. < 1248479054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd just be a royal waste of money < 1248479056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good :P < 1248479064 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were vaguely debating getting 4 Opterons, though. :P < 1248479076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hidden cost of AMD is in the power bill :-P < 1248479085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and heck, the entropy from the heat!) < 1248479087 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :College pays for the power bill. < 1248479091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True dat. < 1248479095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Tru < 1248479106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So, Summer of Code pays $4k? < 1248479110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing what exactly? < 1248479130 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it turns out the Opterons that let you get 4 CPUs in a system are about the same price as Nehalem Xeons. < 1248479140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, AMD are cheap. < 1248479143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Intel are better. :P < 1248479165 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Stupid game programming, in this case. < 1248479176 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He hates it, and getting a new computer out of it would make him feel much better. < 1248479177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That sounds suspiciously easy. < 1248479199 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Poorly documented and undesigned project. < 1248479200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to be a uni student, though, don't you. :-) < 1248479204 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a stupid mentor. < 1248479212 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you do. < 1248479216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah but it's a few months of tedious, hateful coding for $4k < 1248479219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good deal in my book < 1248479242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is for it to be a few months of wonderful coding. < 1248479250 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This specific project is made of suck, however. < 1248479265 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248479284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh gsoc actually comes out to like $2/hour < 1248479288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds nicer in the bulk figure :D < 1248479295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1248479306 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$2/hour? ... No. < 1248479312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 months < 1248479313 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lasts two or three months... < 1248479318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 day months < 1248479324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 hour days < 1248479337 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you don't work every hour, do you? < 1248479338 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Nobody works 24 hours a day... < 1248479344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... oh, true dat. < 1248479361 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in Sweden, I think we have 40 hours per week < 1248479369 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of _working_ < 1248479374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how much do you do in gsoc? < 1248479380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 6-7hr/day or sth? < 1248479399 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: As much as is necessary to do what you signed up to do. < 1248479404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally. < 1248479420 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the project and the person. < 1248479426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your guy. < 1248479449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nominally, 8. Really, 3. < 1248479474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comes out to roughly $15/hr < 1248479494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite a sweet deal your roommate got there < 1248479511 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1248479522 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248479538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if i could convince google i'm a uni student -in spirit- < 1248479552 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Highly_Open_Participation_Contest < 1248479566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prizes offered by Google include a contest t-shirt and participation certificate for completing at least one task and US$100 for every three tasks completed to a maximum of US$500 (for fifteen completed tasks) < 1248479578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think 15 tasks is worth just $500 < 1248479583 0 :Nowicjusz!n=ppp@chello089078252063.chello.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1248479592 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Document the following functions". < 1248479594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather try my chances at confusing google as to my studenthood :D < 1248479602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowicjusz: who're you. < 1248479614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good answer < 1248479616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1248479657 0 :Nowicjusz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1248479667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what doth broughtify you here < 1248479676 0 :Nowicjusz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm traveler < 1248479724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible < 1248479728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xeno proved it you know < 1248479756 0 :Nowicjusz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find this room on the list < 1248479779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowicjusz: we're about programming not magick fyi. < 1248479785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checking :D < 1248479858 0 :Nowicjusz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird what it is < 1248479867 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least now we're 42 people in here < 1248479874 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than 41, I suppose < 1248479874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowicjusz: strange programming languages < 1248479876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not voodoo.