< 1247185098 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247188009 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1247188895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :S :: Set < 1247188895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :S = { 2*x | x <- Naturals, x^2 > 3 } < 1247188898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love dependent types. < 1247188937 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1247188976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Lemme explain. < 1247188980 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :S is the set of natural numbers for which half of their value squared is greater than 3? < 1247188992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Normally, you have values indexing on values — i.e. values depend and interact with values and nothing else — < 1247188995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and types indexing on types. < 1247189000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With typeclasses, values index on types — < 1247189007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that (foo::A) and (foo::B) can differ. < 1247189013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With dependent typing, TYPES index on VALUES. < 1247189024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, e.g. "printf :: (s :: String) -> PrintfType s". < 1247189029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PrintfType :: String -> Set < 1247189036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it looks at the string and decides a type. < 1247189056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you can't know the values at type-time, you have to provide enough proofs to make it sure of the type. < 1247189060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unless it's obvious, e.g. a literal). < 1247189071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And yes. < 1247189085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Then, (36 :: S) types but (7 :: S) doesn't. < 1247189097 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... That is awesome. < 1247189102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1247189105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is awesome. < 1247189117 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I love Haskell's type system even more. < 1247189121 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [ 2*x | x <- [0..], x^2 > 3] < 1247189122 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,34,36,38,40,42,44,46,48,50,52,54... < 1247189124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, Haskell doesn't do it. < 1247189127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's a list, not a type. < 1247189146 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be so listless < 1247189152 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Oh, right. Wasn't there some Haskellido that added dependent types? < 1247189165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But it's not objectively a good thing: you can't infer types in all cases (Haskell can't either but it's much rarer), it's a lot of complexity, and you have to prove a lot of stuff a lot of the time. Also, typechecking might not halt. < 1247189181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Agda is quite like Haskell and has dependent types. "She" also does it, but hackily. < 1247189184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's just a haskell preprocessor) < 1247189192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.e-pig.org/epilogue/ < 1247189217 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like it's a bad thing that typechecking might not halt. < 1247189232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Sure it is; the whole point is to catch errors in a predictable way :) < 1247189233 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. Only other language with that property that I can think of is C++. < 1247189235 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER MIND. < 1247189238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Lawl. < 1247189250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Also, if you do a lot of type-computation, you'll be sitting there wondering if it'll halt. < 1247189258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hmm. Total FP + dependent types? < 1247189259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1247189291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know it halts, you know it's safe! Category theorists, switch to this post haste! For we have dependent tyyyyypes! (For- we- have- dependent- tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyypes!) < 1247189294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ Jingle. < 1247189321 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1247189343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think regular data types will prolly look like: < 1247189354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tuple :: Set -> Set -> Set < 1247189364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tuple A B = { Tuple x y | x <- A, y <- B } < 1247189376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. using constructors as the same name as types prolly won't work. < 1247189379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tuple A B = { (,) x y | x <- A, y <- B } < 1247189395 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never realised that a type system could be so awesome. < 1247189402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then (() , ()) :: Tuple Null Null. < 1247189430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Type system? Isn't that thing those Javaheads use where a variable can only have a string, number or class? < 1247189432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha! That's just stupid. < 1247189524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Incidentally, you could probably express "list of strings and integers" with this system. < 1247189531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just union string and integer and do (List Foo). < 1247189546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then { "foo", 2, "bar", 77, 3, "hello", "world" } :: List Foo should type. < 1247189560 0 :sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247189726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src odd < 1247189727 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd = not . even < 1247189739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src even < 1247189739 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even n = n `rem` 2 == 0 < 1247190179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION invents the bestest type: EvenInteger.
< 1247190243 0 :Associat0r!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"#proglangdesign #ltu ##concurrency" < 1247190254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is like an integer, but has to be even. < 1247190288 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EvenSo < 1247190428 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't I do what the f*** I want to with the WTFPL? < 1247190532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: Because only idiots self-censor. < 1247190550 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does not answer the question < 1247190557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idiots who have no concept of what offensive means, idiots who haven't considered why they do it other than a vague notion of "politeness" and otherwise. < 1247190563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: What the hell is the question? < 1247190566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do what the fuck you want to. < 1247190579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean the license itself? < 1247190580 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't change the content of the license itself without changing the name < 1247190581 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1247190590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because a circular dependency Wouldn't Work. < 1247190659 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the topic of censorship: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0162.html (you have to understand that all swear words in Erfworld are replaced with "boop") < 1247190739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two exclamation marks I espy. A true sign of utter inanity, or in rare cases pure insanity. < 1247190894 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: sounds like you're eking close to a russell's paradox there < 1247190955 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that seems not a correct use of "eke", anyway) < 1247191506 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-164-88.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1247191565 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247191860 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1247191978 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247192400 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"On the other hand, you have different fingers." < 1247193148 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1247193853 0 :icefox!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1247194811 0 :icefox!n=icefox@c-71-192-50-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247195420 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247203542 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: have you considered why you pronounce everything the way you do? < 1247203553 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, I guess you're an idiot, because you do something without considering why you do it. < 1247203714 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1247203773 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If imitating language habits that you've seen and you like makes you an idiot, f*** that. < 1247205084 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway... < 1247205123 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shall we invent a constructed language that can be parsed by giving it directly to a Haskell interpreter? < 1247205152 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1247205201 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does so anyway.
< 1247205400 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets bored quickly.
< 1247205761 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION creates a foot tickling machine and attaches it to Warrigal's feet
< 1247205843 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be quite mean actually < 1247205853 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just invented a new kind of torture
< 1247206203 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to remember what that one motion is called.
< 1247206217 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION performs it in the interim.
< 1247206288 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1247206356 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll have to invent a word for it. < 1247206469 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can reborrow something. < 1247206715 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tickle_torture < 1247206746 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol!, what a coincidence :P < 1247206781 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still sad, then i didnt invent it anyways :/ < 1247206854 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is 'nobility' ? < 1247206866 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobles < 1247206873 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zuu: its when you get to fuck your relatives and noone minds < 1247206891 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, i dont understand how tickle torture could genuinely be torture < 1247206897 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in having intercource ? < 1247206914 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zuu: what? < 1247206929 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. with relatives ? < 1247206937 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1247206941 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1247206947 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1247206949 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1247206971 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just trying to understand if you meant 'fuck' literally < 1247206987 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1247207008 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you'll just '...' for anything :P < 1247207032 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i ... for completely absurd questions < 1247207040 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, getting tickled under your feet for extended periods of time is indeed extremely unpleasant < 1247207068 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should get one of your friends to do that to you, then you'll understand :) < 1247207118 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is cited that the Burmese king Nanda Bayin, in 1599 "laughed to death when informed by a visiting Italian merchant that Venice was a free state without a king." < 1247207132 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently so was burma, after that little bout of stupidity! < 1247207147 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zuu: i have a tickle fetish < 1247207148 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soooooo... < 1247207166 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, oh... < 1247207282 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive had laughter fits. those are fun. :o < 1247207293 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, that gif anumation on that article is fun, kittens licking feet ^^ < 1247207354 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zuu, are you an adorable boy between the ages of 18 and 25? < 1247207381 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adorable, i wouldnt know, but otherwise, yes :) < 1247207393 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well show me a picture and ill let you know :o < 1247207409 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha... naah < 1247207414 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww lame < 1247207423 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1247207437 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a homosexual < 1247207456 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i am, i dont know it yet < 1247207459 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if youre not you should probably leave; its a law tht everyone in #esoteric is a homosexual) < 1247207481 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"" < 1247207487 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, i suppose ill just wait till i get kicked < 1247207537 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i had ops so i could kick you for humors sake :( < 1247207544 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1247207561 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd learn your lesson then! < 1247207576 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooh! < 1247207577 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And dont come back till you love cock! >| < 1247207593 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1247207631 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddently finds this conversation unpleasant
< 1247207653 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awkward is better than unpleasant. < 1247207655 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :far more interesting < 1247207662 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does doing text processing in SQL count as esoteric? < 1247207689 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only by virtue of SQL being esoteric. < 1247207711 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL for simple retrieval for storage is hardly esoteric! < 1247207714 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1247207722 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft < 1247207790 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about doing string processing using tuple calculus < 1247207818 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a suitably inappropriate string encoding < 1247207886 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF64 < 1247207919 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode codepoints written in hex < 1247207923 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in ascii) < 1247207977 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CESSMASTER: so just unicode codepoints as you normally see them denoted. < 1247207981 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it would have to be a tuple set that represent the string, otherwise it is not possible < 1247208010 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but and inappropriate scheme for construction of that set :P < 1247208031 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about < 1247208056 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :text encoded as non-uniform natural-language descriptions of the shapes of the characters < 1247208068 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a language like, say, ... Ojibwa. < 1247208069 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1247208114 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or really just, map the use of language to the particular code points < 1247208126 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ojibwa descriptions will, ofcourse, be written in an ascii encoding of the native ojibwa writing system < 1247208138 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zuu: thats why i said non-uniform < 1247208140 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suc that the round shape in o must be expressed in one language while the round shape in Q must be expressed in another < 1247208141 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there is no mapping < 1247208155 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1247208269 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about expressing it as decimal comma separated integers representing the bytes of just what you said < 1247208354 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no reason to make it easyperhaps even with binary checksums every 8 byte of that < 1247209252 0 :Associat0r!n=Associat@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1247212799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1247212800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1247213281 0 :Associat0r!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"#proglangdesign #ltu ##concurrency" < 1247215676 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=user@79.174.35.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1247216548 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1247216831 0 :jix!n=jix@77-20-205-106-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1247217696 0 :Associat0r!n=Associat@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1247217922 0 :Associat0r!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1247218003 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1247218073 0 :Associat0r!n=Associat@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1247218260 0 :Associat0r!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1247225554 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1247225620 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1247225883 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1247227027 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-5-54.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247227089 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1247227978 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1247229531 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247229920 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1247230455 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1247230532 0 :jix!n=jix@77-20-205-106-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1247232803 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1247232907 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77.100.194.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1247233037 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1247234025 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1247234138 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1247235258 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247236783 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1247237237 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1247237956 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-5-54.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247239607 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1247240141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1247240145 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1247240151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy in RL, I may not talk much < 1247240152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, any progress on feather? < 1247240153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ducks
< 1247240159 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ducking a feather is easy < 1247240165 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's a duck feather? < 1247240167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err what < 1247240189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1247240990 0 :jix!n=jix@p5B2679CC.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247241027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh I'm stuck in tvtroupes < 1247241034 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tropes* < 1247241297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I managed to get out < 1247241782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what does "Hofstadterially" mean? It is in the hover text in xkcd today and google's define: doesn't know. < 1247241794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor does plain google yeild any *useful* results < 1247241805 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it means "in a manner reminiscent of Douglas Hofstadter" < 1247241811 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and googling him should yield useful results, hopefuly < 1247241818 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hopefully < 1247241822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wikipedia < 1247241848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh GEB < 1247241903 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247242097 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1247242530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1247242597 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/p/awib/ < 1247242802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, old < 1247242929 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@rrcs-74-62-7-76.west.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1247243164 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can see that from the dates < 1247243481 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does its optimization compare to your recent efforts? < 1247243674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, iirc lifthrasiir mentioned on his page about esotope-bfc < 1247243708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for mine? no idea. in-between is dormant btw < 1247243713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :working on other stuff currently < 1247243828 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, http://code.google.com/p/esotope-bfc/wiki/Comparison has it < 1247243911 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking there then in-btween is way better < 1247244483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, "and propagates all constants (something other compiler doesn't do)" <-- technically in-between does that, but possibly not all of them < 1247244497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since it is dormant atm I know it is broken in some parts. < 1247245744 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c8F99BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1247247171 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃" < 1247250642 0 :GuestShadowSkunk!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-110-28.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1247251191 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1247251323 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1247252616 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1247254898 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%x",'u'); < 1247254899 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :75 < 1247255188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell ord 'u' < 1247255209 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I FAIL! YAY! < 1247255219 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr 'u' < 1247255221 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Int' < 1247255226 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord 'u' < 1247255228 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 117 < 1247255246 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. %x. ... Screw you, Alex Smith. < 1247255287 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't be too hard, surely? < 1247255350 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1247255350 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just lazy. < 1247257743 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"New parts = YES." < 1247258585 0 :comex_!i=comex@c-98-210-198-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247258643 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1247258652 0 :jix!n=jix@p4FEEAC73.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247258666 0 :comex_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :comex < 1247259481 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247259654 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1247261181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Int->[a]->String < 1247261182 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude drop :: Int -> [a] -> [a] < 1247261182 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude take :: Int -> [a] -> [a] < 1247261182 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List drop :: Int -> [a] -> [a] < 1247261186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah not what i meant lambdabot < 1247261190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Int->Integer->String < 1247261190 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude encodeFloat :: RealFloat a => Integer -> Int -> a < 1247261191 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Generics.Basics gmapQi :: Data a => Int -> (a -> u) -> a -> u < 1247261191 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude flip :: (a -> b -> c) -> b -> a -> c < 1247261193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Int->Int->String < 1247261194 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distribution.Simple.Command commandShowOptions :: CommandUI flags -> flags -> [String] < 1247261194 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Generics.Basics gmapQi :: Data a => Int -> (a -> u) -> a -> u < 1247261194 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Fixed div' :: (Real a, Integral b) => a -> a -> b < 1247261197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1247261200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear there's a function for it < 1247261203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t toBase < 1247261204 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `toBase' < 1247261237 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?ty showIntAtBase < 1247261239 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Integral a) => a -> (Int -> Char) -> a -> String -> String < 1247261260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, i hate that function < 1247261263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so complicated < 1247261361 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?ty flip showIntAtBase intToDigit :: (Integral a) => a -> a -> ShowS < 1247261363 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Integral a) => a -> a -> String -> String < 1247261900 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1247262130 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int x; for (x=32;x<255;x++) printf("%x ", x); < 1247262131 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 4a 4b 4c 4d 4e 4f 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 5a 5b 5c 5d 5e 5f 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 6a 6b 6c 6d 6e 6f 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 7a 7b 7c 7d 7e 7f 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 8a 8b 8c 8d 8e 8f 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 9a 9b 9c 9d 9e 9f a0 a1 a2 a3 a4 a5 a6 a7 a8 a9 aa ab ac ad ae af b0 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 b6 b7 < 1247262142 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1247262305 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t showIntAtBase < 1247262306 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Integral a) => a -> (Int -> Char) -> a -> String -> String < 1247262364 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> showIntAtBase 256 chr 0xdeadbeef "" < 1247262366 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\222\173\190\239" < 1247262383 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip showIntAtBase intToDigit 256 0xdeadbeef < 1247262385 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Overlapping instances for GHC.Show.Show < 1247262385 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC.B... < 1247262389 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip showIntAtBase intToDigit 256 0xdeadbeef "" < 1247262391 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "* Exception: Char.intToDigit: not a digit 239 < 1247262395 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1247262478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:47 roconnor: ehird: CReal isn't FewDigits // in lambdabot < 1247262481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1247262518 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Nothing :: CReal < 1247262519 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Data.Number.CReal.CReal' < 1247262539 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Data.Number.CReal < 1247262539 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1247262545 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle CReal < 1247262546 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1247262549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Data.Numbers < 1247262552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from numbers on hackage < 1247262559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:49 roconnor: ehird: numbers is faster and lies more < 1247262582 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm it clearly says Data.Number.CReal there < 1247262588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the type is CReal. < 1247262591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not Few Digits' CReal. < 1247262601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is less accurate, sez roconnor < 1247262605 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: erm, *whoosh* < 1247262619 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Data.Number.CReal.CReal' < 1247262619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1247262626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoosh is for jokes, oerjan :P < 1247262632 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Few Digits < 1247262632 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it isn't < 1247262683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:51 Cale: > 1/(10^100) == (0 :: CReal) < 1247262684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:51 lambdabot: True < 1247262688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: a computable reals library < 1247262692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://r6.ca/FewDigits/ < 1247262702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can represent any computable real exactly, and compute on it without error < 1247262750 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, == doesn't terminate :-) < 1247262801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: due to a little thing called "impossibility" < 1247262868 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What makes it impossible < 1247262879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: pi == pi < 1247262888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun traversing all those infinity digits to find out if they ever differ < 1247262894 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 == 1 < 1247262895 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One digit < 1247262902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1247262913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: 1 is represented at 1.00000000000000000000000000000… < 1247262925 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so that's why. Thanks. < 1247262928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: besides, why have a semi-broken (==)? < 1247262931 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have to be like that. < 1247262933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd still be bad to use it in general < 1247262942 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, why break something halfway if you can break it all the way? < 1247262954 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: predictability < 1247262982 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact this reminds me of yesterday's wolfram alpha critique on reddit < 1247262987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1247262988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :predictability < 1247263063 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram alpha's "natural language" user interface is so bad because (1) it obviously cannot be perfect (2) because it is complicated but not perfect, it's impossible for users to do things reliably with it < 1247263070 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was part of the gist of it < 1247263071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: okay blame byorgey, i'm going to bug you about continued fractions now < 1247263095 0 :bsmntbombdood_!n=gavin@97-118-112-36.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247263098 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I read that post. < 1247263105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: heyyyyyyyyy, I have an idea < 1247263118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: data Butt = Div Integer Butt | StopHammerTime Integer < 1247263123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1.5 = 1/2/3 < 1247263131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 1/(2/3) < 1247263176 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's just numerator/denominator, or possibly some factorization < 1247263215 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot represent anything other than (a1*a2*...*an)/(b1*b2*...*bn) that way. and those are all rational too < 1247263220 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1247263246 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also get some infinite expressions i guess, but they wouldn't correspond to reals in any obvious way < 1247263254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, duh < 1247263314 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that continued fractions actually converge as limits is important. :) < 1247263317 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1247263864 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1247264445 0 :jix!n=jix@p4FEEA75B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247266717 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247267163 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why has nobody made a hard drive with 2 r/w heads? < 1247267175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: erm aren't platters equivalent < 1247267178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple ones < 1247267184 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be like have 2 hard drives in raid0? < 1247267193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: not if they hit into each other < 1247267209 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is plenty of room to have two heads < 1247267214 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about it < 1247267219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1247267241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood, wouldn't fit in the normal form factor though < 1247267249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm fairly sure it's not a good idea because (a) it's so obvious that you have to try really hard not to think of it and (b) it hasn't been done in all the decades we've had hard drives, evre < 1247267250 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1247267250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ever < 1247267260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can only conclude that it is flawed, or the world is utterly bonkers < 1247267265 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote there is plenty of room to have two heads < 1247267269 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :28| there is plenty of room to have two heads < 1247267292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: there is plenty of room to get head twice at once < 1247267293 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :29|IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: there is plenty of room to get head twice at once < 1247267301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pride myself on unfunny alternate universe requotes. < 1247267304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1247267304 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1247267420 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In an alternate universe, ehird has taste < 1247267431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now youdunnit. < 1247267436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote In an alternate universe, ehird has taste < 1247267437 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30| In an alternate universe, ehird has taste < 1247267444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : so i can only conclude that it is flawed, or the world is utterly bonkers <-- the latter. We all know it. < 1247267450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: In an alternate universe, I would say "In an alternate universe, ehird has taste" < 1247267451 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :31|IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: In an alternate universe, I would say "In an alternate universe, ehird has taste" < 1247267463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i just ended it with a cyclic quote structure ↑ < 1247267465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's okay < 1247267481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1247267492 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? addquote so i can only conclude that it is flawed, or the world is utterly bonkers < 1247267494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1247267496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote so i can only conclude that it is flawed, or the world is utterly bonkers < 1247267497 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32| so i can only conclude that it is flawed, or the world is utterly bonkers < 1247267506 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric, where recursion is considered humor < 1247267515 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, :D < 1247267566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schließen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist völlig BONKERS. Gegrüßet seist du der Führer Hitler! < 1247267567 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :33|IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schließen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist völlig BONKERS. Gegrüßet seist du der Führer Hitler! < 1247267568 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to record changes. < 1247267571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1247267575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode issues? < 1247267594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow: < 1247267594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN AN ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE (WHERE THE NAZIS WON): So I can only conclude that it is wrong or the world is completely BONKERS. Hail the leader Hitler! < 1247267596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, google translate? < 1247267599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it translated almost perfectly < 1247267616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schließen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist völlig BONKERS. Gegrüßet seist du der Führer Hitler! < 1247267617 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :33|IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schließen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist völlig BONKERS. Gegrüßet seist du der Führer Hitler! < 1247267618 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to record changes. < 1247267621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1247267625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just deunicode it < 1247267633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, poke GregorR < 1247267636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. Gegrusset seist du der Fuhrer Hitler! < 1247267638 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :33|IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. Gegrusset seist du der Fuhrer Hitler! < 1247267648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: consider yourself poked. < 1247267649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Done. < 1247267649 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that translate-retranslate of Heil Hitler seems a bit out of place < 1247267659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I said "Hail the Fuhrer Hitler!" < 1247267663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I wanted Fuhrer in it. < 1247267675 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but the german translation contains no "heil" < 1247267684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. < 1247267686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1247267687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1247267693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is probably hail as in hailstorm < 1247267694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1247267700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said "Heil". :P < 1247267704 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with ü? < 1247267706 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1247267710 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't think so < 1247267723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: HackEgo fails at jew-knee-coeducation. < 1247267736 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1247267757 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure "grüß" is "greet" < 1247267757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I stripped the ss-s too. < 1247267771 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something close < 1247267798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm pretty sure "grüß" is "greet" <-- actually it is "grub" but with a bad typesetter. < 1247267841 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats AnMaster -----###
< 1247267878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote SUPLENTES EN UN UNIVERSO (MUSSOLINI CUANDO CONQUISTÓ EL MUNDO): i tan sólo puede concluir que es defectuoso, o el mundo está absolutamente loco. Todos a la gloria Il Duce! < 1247267879 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :34|SUPLENTES EN UN UNIVERSO (MUSSOLINI CUANDO CONQUISTÓ EL MUNDO): i tan sólo puede concluir que es defectuoso, o el mundo está absolutamente loco. Todos a la gloria Il Duce! < 1247267879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ...? I thought you would like that joke... < 1247267880 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to record changes. < 1247267892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote SUPLENTES EN UN UNIVERSO (MUSSOLINI CUANDO CONQUISTO EL MUNDO): i tan solo puede concluir que es defectuoso, o el mundo esta absolutamente loco. Todos a la gloria Il Duce! < 1247267893 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :34|SUPLENTES EN UN UNIVERSO (MUSSOLINI CUANDO CONQUISTO EL MUNDO): i tan solo puede concluir que es defectuoso, o el mundo esta absolutamente loco. Todos a la gloria Il Duce! < 1247267898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1247267909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dictatorship translation is all the rage nowadays, or so I hear. < 1247267936 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ö < 1247267936 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ö < 1247267942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an hg(1) problem. < 1247267942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ö > tmp.txt < 1247267943 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1247267944 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to record changes. < 1247267947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1247267947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Further proof that Mercurial is like unto a shit. < 1247267948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1247267951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no < 1247267959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, just that GregorR fails to set it up < 1247267965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't a general proof it fails < 1247267994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, seriously, fix this problem. < 1247268016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, he doesn't read away log iirc. < 1247268020 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "testing oerjan " < 1247268021 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "testing oerjan " < 1247268022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so poke him when he is around < 1247268024 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1247268026 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what monitor should i get? < 1247268027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1247268028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Via Korean: < 1247268029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE (WHERE EVERYONE IS KOREAN (NOTE: AS FAR AS I KNOW THIS HAS NEVER COME REMOTELY CLOSE TO HAPPENING, EVER)): < 1247268032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1247268034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1247268036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never know this happened in another universe have come remotely close (both where (Note: South Korea, the enemy)): < 1247268039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :South Korea, the enemy? I never know this happened? < 1247268041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit of bias, that. < 1247268050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: a viewsonic or lg or something. < 1247268050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh... < 1247268057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: 24" @ 1920x1200. < 1247268072 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: something like that < 1247268081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Not 1920x1080; the 16:9, it burns. < 1247268083 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ask lifthrasiir about it < 1247268086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for how it works < 1247268087 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it even possible to get a bigger resolution than that? < 1247268090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1247268090 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why? < 1247268097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give him the translated version < 1247268098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: google translate is based on heuristics and suggestions and articles i think < 1247268100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so /shrug < 1247268108 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1247268119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: because 16:10 is closer to the golden ratio, and 16:9 is just too widescreen; you can't make a nice square-ish window big enough. < 1247268140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1247268158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't 4:3 even closer to the golden ratio iirc < 1247268176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:10 = 1.6:1 < 1247268183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's 0.01 off. < 1247268185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1247268185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN AN ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE (WHERE EVERYONE IS KOREAN (NOTE: AS FAR AS I'M AWARE THIS HAS NEVER COME REMOTELY CLOSE TO HAPPENING, EVER)): < 1247268185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1247268187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I'm not growing as much as possible remotely close like this happening in an alternative universe (where all (see: Korea, red)): < 1247268192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this Korean translation is... a bit buggy. < 1247268217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, either English->Korean or Korean->English is yes < 1247268221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to know which < 1247268233 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe both < 1247268235 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 4/3 = 1.3; 16/10 = 1.6 < 1247268243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood, ok. I stand corrected < 1247268277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote באופן חלופי ביקום זה כרוך כולם מדברים עברית מסיבה כלשהי: אז אני יכול רק להסיק כי הוא פגום, או את העולם, הוא מטורף לגמרי < 1247268278 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :35|באופן חלופי ביקום זה כרוך כולם מדברים עברית מסיבה כלשהי: אז אני יכול רק להסיק כי הוא פגום, או את העולם, הוא מטורף לגמרי < 1247268279 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to record changes. < 1247268280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1247268353 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how in the world can you expect it to record korean when it fails on characters 128-255? < 1247268363 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "testing oerjan " < 1247268365 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "testing oerjan " < 1247268369 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1247268371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote PA ET ANNET UNIVERSET DER DE ENESTE PERSONEN OERJAN: sa jeg kan bare konkludere med at det er feil, eller er verden helt bonkers < 1247268372 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :35|PA ET ANNET UNIVERSET DER DE ENESTE PERSONEN OERJAN: sa jeg kan bare konkludere med at det er feil, eller er verden helt bonkers < 1247268379 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the heck is it blue, not red as i requested < 1247268402 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1247268403 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nextag.com/NEC-MultiSync-21-3-510541635/prices-html < 1247268408 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly close... < 1247268422 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeeeeeeexpensive < 1247268426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Yeah, I'm gonna go with "no". If you wanna spend that much, get an IBM T221 and revel in the tiny 1920x1200 VMs you have. < 1247268428 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still broken < 1247268441 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: vm? < 1247268442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It costs around $2-3k now; it costed $20,000 when it came out in 2001-2002.) < 1247268448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Allow me to demonstrate. < 1247268462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: http://www.novoventus.com/pics/T2211x.jpg < 1247268470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: The monitor is 22". That top-left virtual machine is 1920x1200. < 1247268475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its DPI exceeds 200. < 1247268479 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh snap < 1247268480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bring your own graphics cards. < 1247268491 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22"? < 1247268498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think it's 1920x1200. < 1247268499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1247268499 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ridiculous < 1247268505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: That's quite big actually. < 1247268513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you just mean for the resolution? < 1247268521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, yes, the resolution is gloriously, gloriously excessive. < 1247268585 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't you rather have a lower dpi? < 1247268591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Why? < 1247268609 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1247268609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: It doesn't affect how big things are, necessarily; fontconfig has a dpi setting. < 1247268613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the text will be the same physical size. < 1247268618 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1247268622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it will be smoother, images can be higher-resolution at the same size, etc. < 1247268624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice nice monitor < 1247268628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only it was colour < 1247268630 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could display so much more < 1247268632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: What? < 1247268633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1247268636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you blind? < 1247268642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nextag.com/NEC-MultiSync-21-3-510541635/prices-html < 1247268644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one? < 1247268649 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the one i linked < 1247268651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're not talking about that one. < 1247268656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Actually... < 1247268657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sorry, but I am < 1247268664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: The T221 is 3840x2400. < 1247268671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: There aren't any higher single-display resolutions, afaik. < 1247268681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, heck, it beats a lot of two-displays. < 1247268689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they don't have the DPI to boot. < 1247268698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : bsmntbombdood: http://www.novoventus.com/pics/T2211x.jpg <-- specs? < 1247268705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Which ones < 1247268715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Obvious disadvantage: you need a lot of graphics horsepower; it will never play games; overly pixel-oriented stuff will be tiny; its refresh rate isn't so hot. < 1247268717 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/63390/ibm-t221.html < 1247268719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, luminance < 1247268720 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*disadvantages < 1247268722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advantages: OMG WANT. < 1247268726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: jfgi < 1247268729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh and colour stuff. < 1247268738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :contrast too < 1247268744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Contrast is irrelevant. < 1247268755 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh? < 1247268756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything above 800:1 is = 800:1 in room lit by just one candle. < 1247268762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any higher lighting? Doesn't matter one iota. < 1247268780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Anyway, it retailed at $20,000. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the panel is good quality. < 1247268782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, depends on ambient light? < 1247268789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1247268793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, refresh rate? < 1247268794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Is your room lit by just one candle? < 1247268801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, then don't buy a monitor under 800:1 (hint: these don't exist) < 1247268808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, if there's actual light... < 1247268821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no... One fluorescent lamp < 1247268823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: "And, like Formula 1, the technology will filter down to the rest of us before too long; you shouldn't have to wait another ten years to get hold of something similar at an affordable price." < 1247268827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014 is looking pretty close :) < 1247268828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1247268839 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1247268840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Then contrast is irrelevant above a ridiculously low amount. < 1247268841 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014? < 1247268843 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be serious < 1247268849 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worlds going to end in 2012 < 1247268850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: that review was written in 2004 < 1247268851 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, *turns off lamp* < 1247268854 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no lights now < 1247268856 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1247268860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the monitor itself < 1247268873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Hey, if you buy a monitor under 300:1, you might even be able to distinguish it with a magnifying glass. < 1247268877 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it would be nicer to have a 30" or 36" or something display at that resolution < 1247268880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, this is highly important. < 1247268883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which lights up the keyboard pretty well < 1247268886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hah < 1247268894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: i dunno about you but i can see my pixels quite easily < 1247268898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, isn't high contrast better? < 1247268901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: with high enough dpi we don't need hacks like font antialiasing < 1247268906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen will finally be as good as print < 1247268920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Wow, the marketeers have done a good job with you. < 1247268931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "Actually it's irrelevant" "...but isn't it better?" < 1247268933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually I never bothered < 1247268939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why is it irrelevant < 1247268945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physics. < 1247268948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optics < 1247268949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1247268966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the black on this monitor seems off-black compared to the black foot of it. < 1247268969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/contrast-ratio.html < 1247268973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it = the monitor < 1247268981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that applies to all non-OLEDs. < 1247268985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe CRTs too. < 1247268987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all LCDs have that. < 1247268994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Anyway, read that file and stop being duped. < 1247269012 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ dvi only supporting a low resolution < 1247269014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" With this much light in the room, there is no difference between 500:1 and 10000:1 Contrast Ratio!" < 1247269014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am reading it < 1247269016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(talking about a single candle) < 1247269018 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1247269020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So not even 800:1. < 1247269121 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you don't use your computer in the dark? < 1247269132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I do. < 1247269138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, two things. < 1247269151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firstly, I find it incredibly unlikely that you are using your computer under ZERO lighting conditions. < 1247269163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Secondly, I find it incredibly unlikely that you have the spectacular vision required to distinguish such things. < 1247269165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And finally, < 1247269175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with barely any lighting at all, contrast ratios still don't matter. < 1247269197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apart from ridiculously low ones that don't exist in any display like 50:1.) < 1247269709 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1247270110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'm really missing is a wider gamut < 1247270120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I know that means less details with 8 bits per pixel < 1247270134 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :per channel* < 1247270176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I want 16 bits per channel and a wide gamut monitor < 1247270180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a pony. < 1247270195 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah, I'm allergic to them < 1247270207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impossible. < 1247270214 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all < 1247270267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw there is actually some music with beat that I like. Not a lot, but some. < 1247270375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1247270398 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1247270399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) That is not a non-sequitur, (b) I care and (c) this is not sarcastic.