00:01:25 It is because of JEWS 00:01:55 and negros. 00:01:58 negri. 00:02:00 negrae 00:02:14 ok, now i'm ready for your pathetic whining about the decay of rationality, reason and logic 00:02:48 Here's a nice article about it : http://dis.4chan.org/read/vip/1243454099 00:02:55 oerjan: you hurt me. you hurt me with a stick. 00:02:57 the latin adjective is "niger", although the suffixes are correct afaik 00:03:17 or wait... 00:03:24 oerjan: a pointy stick. possibly even rusty. 00:04:08 oh just shut up 00:04:43 ah no, it's -er, -ra, -rum, so those are fine suffixes 00:05:34 oerjan: I PRETTY MUCH AM A TURTLE 00:06:03 but then you wouldn't recognize logic _if_ it pinched you with a rusty, infected stick 00:06:45 zing! 00:07:01 oerjan: no, turtles are very SOCILOLGICAL BAT 00:07:49 -!- RodgerTheGreat_ has quit. 00:07:55 bah, they are just decadent members of the tortoisie 00:07:59 sos your mom 00:10:13 WHY DO YOU HAVE TO INSULT MY MOM SHE IS DEAD OH MY GOD WHY MUST YOU BE SO CRUEL 00:10:40 a flying fuck is given to the dove dove dove dove dove, i mean oven 00:11:10 night 00:11:16 wouldn't a flying duck be better. for the oven i mean. 00:11:18 night 00:11:22 flying SHUCNK 00:11:36 Lisp: conth 00:12:12 Just omit names; they're like 00:12:13 "" 00:14:46 * oerjan assumes ehird is still talking, but omitting all the words 00:15:05 oerjan: WORDS, FUCK WORDS! 00:15:17 omit needless words WE HATE words so all 00:15:22 forall quantification, implication of all 00:15:41 it's the logic of hate 00:15:48 mental time DIPSHITTERY. 00:16:05 types? do you KILL 00:22:57 00:24:08 ~ : wave 00:27:49 . : particle 00:28:09 oerjan: but ~ as wave represents the curvature of a list of values, and the implicit line represents their mean. 00:38:17 -!- upyr[emacs] has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:43:03 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 00:56:24 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 01:01:13 ehird: may I respond sarcastically to a sarcastic statement you made some weeks ago? 01:06:47 i wonder if i should turn on my air conditioner and dehumidifer at the same time 01:06:58 for super duper extra jiffy dry air 01:38:38 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote closed the connection). 02:15:58 -!- immibis has joined. 02:19:48 does anyone here play tribal wars (http://www.tribalwars.net)? 02:28:10 -!- Corun has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 03:31:49 -!- comex has joined. 03:32:04 ... 03:32:04 \o/ 03:32:15 Yo, comex. 03:32:27 no response myndzi? :p 03:32:30 hello 03:32:44 \o/ 03:32:57 Huh. Myndzi must have turned off the script. 03:33:29 OH NOSE 03:33:33 * GregorR myndzi?!?!?! 03:33:33 * immibis myndzi?!?!?! 03:33:34 * myndzi GregorR?!?!?! 03:33:34 * immibis GregorR?!?!?! 03:33:45 .................. wtf 03:34:00 Well that was just confusing. 03:34:00 * pikhq giggles 03:34:01 * immibis giggles 03:34:09 * GregorR stabs immibis in the face. 03:34:09 * immibis stabs GregorR in the face. 03:34:11 :( 03:35:01 * pikhq stabs myndzi in the immibis 03:35:02 * myndzi stabs pikhq in the immibis 03:35:02 * immibis stabs myndzi in the pikhq 03:35:02 * myndzi stabs immibis in the pikhq 03:35:02 * immibis stabs pikhq in the myndzi 03:35:03 * immibis stabs myndzi in the pikhq 03:35:16 * comex immibis 03:35:16 * immibis comex 03:35:21 ... 03:43:03 * Warrigal myndzi 03:43:03 * myndzi Warrigal 03:43:04 * immibis myndzi 03:43:04 * immibis Warrigal 03:43:08 Weird. 03:43:42 * Warrigal mentions myndzi. 03:43:42 * myndzi mentions Warrigal. 03:43:43 * immibis mentions myndzi. 03:43:43 * immibis mentions Warrigal. 03:43:50 * Warrigal mentions immibis. 03:43:51 * immibis mentions Warrigal. 03:44:16 comex> no response myndzi? :p 03:44:20 * Warrigal performs the obligatory relatively null action. 03:44:21 * immibis performs the obligatory relatively null action. 03:44:24 comex> no response myndzi? :p 03:44:27 12345 03:44:31 myndzi> 03:44:33 123456 03:44:46 So immibis echoes all of them, and I think myndzi only echoes ones containing "myndzi". 03:45:20 * myndzi 03:45:20 * immibis 03:45:24 did somebody say null action? :) 03:45:28 ah, he didn't completely reproduce it 03:45:31 * pikhq stabs myndzi in the myndzi with the mydnzi. Also, immibis 03:45:32 * myndzi stabs pikhq in the pikhq with the mydnzi. Also, immibis 03:45:32 * immibis stabs myndzi in the myndzi with the mydnzi. Also, pikhq 03:45:33 * immibis stabs pikhq in the pikhq with the mydnzi. Also, myndzi 03:45:33 * myndzi stabs immibis in the immibis with the mydnzi. Also, pikhq 03:45:34 * immibis stabs myndzi in the myndzi with the mydnzi. Also, pikhq 03:45:34 * comex myndzi immibis 03:45:35 * immibis myndzi comex 03:45:35 * myndzi comex immibis 03:45:35 * immibis comex myndzi 03:46:07 * pikhq 03:46:08 * immibis 03:46:10 * myndzi actually has flood protection 03:46:11 * immibis actually has flood protection 03:46:13 ^_^ 03:46:18 * Warrigal totally myndzi immibis myndzi immibis myndzi immibis and also wonders whether they replace all instances or only one. 03:46:18 * myndzi totally Warrigal immibis Warrigal immibis Warrigal immibis and also wonders whether they replace all instances or only one. 03:46:19 * immibis totally myndzi Warrigal myndzi Warrigal myndzi Warrigal and also wonders whether they replace all instances or only one. 03:46:19 * myndzi \n lolwut 03:46:19 * immibis totally Warrigal myndzi Warrigal myndzi Warrigal myndzi and also wonders whether they replace all instances or only one. 03:46:20 * immibis \n lolwut 03:46:28 Aww, it's all. 04:05:17 * immibis thinks he has triggered myndzi's flood protection 04:05:18 * myndzi thinks he has triggered immibis's flood protection 04:05:18 * immibis thinks he has triggered myndzi's flood protection 04:05:27 good thing, that. 04:07:13 hooray for flood protection 04:11:39 it used to blacklist users who abused but i disabled it because it tended to get in the way 04:11:55 and i hadn't had occasion for it to be useful in a situation like above for a long time 04:34:56 * immibis says ok to myndzi 04:34:57 * myndzi says ok to immibis 04:34:57 * immibis says ok to myndzi 04:35:33 http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/t/11475.aspx?View=Flat 04:42:11 that shit sucks 04:42:31 * pikhq ̂̃ 04:42:31 * immibis ̂̃ 04:51:40 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 05:28:04 -!- pikhq has joined. 05:49:24 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.org <- Nobody cares enough to cybersquat it"). 06:29:47 -!- HackBot has joined. 06:29:58 `calc 1 + 1 06:29:58 1 + 1 = 2 06:30:09 (The world's least secure bot, now on FreeNode!) 06:30:45 Oh? 06:30:48 Nice. 06:31:42 It's sort of like EgoBot's !sh, but with a persistent environment including a bin dir that it actually uses to run its commands. 06:31:56 Oh, and access to google.com 06:32:06 And maybe I'll add esolangs.org 06:32:58 `ls 06:32:59 bin \ quotes 06:33:07 `ls bin 06:33:07 addquote \ calc \ define \ google \ quote 06:33:22 `cat define 06:33:40 (use `run for commands with full proper shell support, otherwise it just runs the command specified with the rest as one argument) 06:33:45 What, no cat? 06:33:48 You wanted bin/define, btw 06:33:56 Oh, right. 06:34:02 `cat bin/define 06:34:03 #!/bin/bash \ if [ ! "$1" ] \ then \ echo 'Define what?' \ exit 1 \ fi \ \ QUERY=`echo -n "$1" | od -t x1 -A n -w1000 | tr " " %` \ \ lynx --cfg=/dev/null --lss=/dev/null \ \ --dump --width=1000 'http://google.com/search?q=define:'"$QUERY" | \ grep -A 3 'Definitions of' | \ head -n 4 | tail -n 3 06:34:37 `define explosion 06:34:39 * a violent release of energy caused by a chemical or nuclear reaction \ * the act of exploding or bursting; "the explosion of the firecrackers awoke the children"; "the burst of an atom bomb creates enormous radiation aloft" \ * a sudden great increase; "the population explosion"; "the information explosion" 06:35:11 `run :(){ :|:& };: 06:35:31 Good lawd people, when will you realize that I run everything in carefully controlled environments :P 06:35:42 GregorR: Yes. 06:35:48 We force you to 06:35:49 ;) 06:40:15 `fetch http://pastebin.ca/raw/1467237 06:40:20 2009-06-20 05:40:20 URL:http://pastebin.ca/raw/1467237 [209] -> "1467237" [1] 06:40:43 `run mv 1467237 bin/esolang; perl -pe 's/\x0D//g' -i bin/esolang; chmod 0755 bin/esolang 06:40:49 `esolang Brainfuck 06:40:56 Yay it doesn't work :P 06:41:25 Yay! 06:41:31 Oh, hah, forgot the URL for lynx X_X 06:42:12 `fetch http://pastebin.ca/raw/1467238 06:42:17 2009-06-20 05:42:16 URL:http://pastebin.ca/raw/1467238 [241/241] -> "1467238" [1] 06:42:19 `run mv 1467238 bin/esolang; perl -pe 's/\x0D//g' -i bin/esolang; chmod 0755 bin/esolang 06:43:51 `esolang Brainfuck 06:43:52 Brainfuck is probably the most famous of the [6]esoteric programming languages, and has inspired the creation of a host of other languages. Due to the fact that the last half of its name is often considered one of the most offensive words in the English language, it is sometimes referred to as brainf***, brainf*ck, brainfsck, 06:44:05 `esolang Kipple 06:44:06 Kipple is a minimalistic [6]esoteric programming language with a set of [7]stacks, four operators, and a single control structure. Kipple was designed by [8]Rune Berge in March, 2003. 06:44:12 :) 06:56:35 `echo $PATH 06:56:36 $PATH 06:56:41 `set 06:56:52 `export | grep -i path 06:57:00 `ls / 06:57:00 bin \ dev \ etc \ home \ lib \ lib64 \ proc \ tmp \ usr 06:57:05 `cat /dev/urandom 06:57:06 `run echo $PATH 06:57:07 /tmp/hackenv.29869/bin:/usr/bin:/bin 06:57:13 `run cat /dev/urandom 06:57:20 `ls /dev 06:57:20 null 06:57:24 aw 06:57:28 `ls /bin/ 06:57:29 bash \ cat \ chgrp \ chmod \ chown \ cp \ cpio \ date \ dd \ df \ dir \ dmesg \ dnsdomainname \ echo \ ed \ egrep \ false \ fgrep \ grep \ gunzip \ gzexe \ gzip \ hostname \ ip \ kill \ less \ lessecho \ lessfile \ lesskey \ lesspipe \ ln \ login \ ls \ lsmod \ mkdir \ mknod \ mktemp \ more \ mount \ mountpoint \ mt \ mt-gnu 06:57:34 `run cat /bin/* 06:57:35 ELF 06:57:47 `run ps -ae 06:57:59 `run for a in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do {echo hi; } done 06:58:11 `run ps 07:03:52 `run ps 07:04:32 -!- immibis has changed nick to immibis_. 07:04:34 `run ps 07:04:38 -!- immibis_ has changed nick to immibis. 07:05:03 `run who 07:05:17 `run echo i still work 07:05:17 i still work 07:05:21 `run whoami 07:05:28 `help 07:05:28 This is HackBot, the extremely hackable bot. To run a command with one argument, type "`", or "`run " to run a shell command. "`fetch " downloads files, otherwise the network is inaccessible. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository; if you're faimilar with mercurial, you can fix any problems caused by accidents or malice. 07:05:36 `run whoami 2>&1 07:05:36 /usr/bin/whoami: cannot find name for user ID 2020678 07:05:43 !!!? 07:05:45 Hm, that should have worked >_> 07:05:49 `run who 2>&1 07:05:49 `run who 2>&1 07:06:01 `run which who 07:06:02 /usr/bin/who 07:06:02 Oh, and did :P 07:06:02 `run yes > extremely-large-file 07:06:17 `run ls -lh extremely-large-file 07:06:18 -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 10M Jun 20 06:06 extremely-large-file 07:06:21 `run ls -lh extremely-large-file 07:06:22 -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 10M Jun 20 06:06 extremely-large-file 07:06:26 `run ls -l extremely-large-file 07:06:27 -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 10485760 Jun 20 06:06 extremely-large-file 07:06:32 stopped at 10m? 07:06:36 `run df 07:06:43 `run df 2>&1 07:06:44 /bin/df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory 07:06:45 It's really not all that extremely large, is it :P 07:07:02 `run yes 2>&1 > other-extremely-large-file 07:07:04 /usr/bin/yes: standard output: File too large \ /usr/bin/yes: write error 07:07:10 `mount 07:07:12 rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) \ none on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec) \ none on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec) \ udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10240k,mode=755) \ /dev/disk/by-label/PRGMRDISK1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) \ tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=755) 07:07:25 `mount --help 07:07:26 Usage: mount -V : print version \ mount -h : print this help \ mount : list mounted filesystems \ mount -l : idem, including volume labels \ So far the informational part. Next the mounting. \ The command is `mount [-t fstype] something 07:08:03 `ls / 07:08:03 bin \ dev \ etc \ home \ lib \ lib64 \ proc \ tmp \ usr 07:08:09 `mkdir /mount 07:08:12 `ls / 07:08:13 bin \ dev \ etc \ home \ lib \ lib64 \ proc \ tmp \ usr 07:08:16 not root... 07:08:18 aw... 07:08:20 `ln -s /proc/mounts /mnt/mtab 07:08:20 Erm. 07:08:37 `google you're all morons 07:08:38 Also you think they're solving murders all the time? They're out wiritng ..... your-a-moron. it should have been labeled youre-a-moron regardless of the ... \ digg.com/xbox/WOW_You_re_a_MORON - [17]Cached - [18]Similar 07:08:54 `ln -s /proc/mounts /etc/mtab 07:08:54 `run df 2>&1 07:08:56 /bin/df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory 07:09:37 Didn't you guys get your fill doing this to EgoBot ? 07:11:45 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:16:40 -!- pikhq has joined. 07:21:07 -!- EgoBot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 07:21:26 -!- EgoBot has joined. 07:21:46 -!- HackBot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 07:23:43 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 07:34:09 -!- pikhq has joined. 07:41:44 `ls /etc 07:41:57 !sh ls /etc 07:41:58 alternatives 07:42:11 !sh whoami 07:42:12 /usr/bin/whoami: cannot find name for user ID 1468460 07:42:22 !sh df 07:42:22 /bin/df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory 07:42:30 It's the same system. 07:42:35 ok 07:42:36 Except that HackBot lets you keep files. 07:42:41 !pwd 07:42:42 !sh pwd 07:42:42 /home/egobot/egobot.hg/multibot_cmds 07:42:50 !sh ls 07:42:50 interps 07:47:16 it's chroot'ed? 07:51:33 of course it is. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:00:56 but in the same root as hackbot 08:00:57 ? 09:16:31 -!- kar8nga has joined. 09:30:15 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 09:32:23 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 09:32:54 -!- Patashu has joined. 09:44:00 heh, "find | xargs grep" will stop if it encounters a fifo 09:44:23 * immibis now knows how to piss off people who use the command line for everything 09:44:48 completely stop? 09:45:10 assuming nothing else is using the fifo, yes 09:45:17 because grep tries to read from it until eof 09:46:49 so it will pause until something writes to the fifo 09:47:20 sorry, "stop" is ambiguous. i meant "pause" 10:28:19 -!- immibis has quit ("Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot."). 10:30:52 -!- oerjan has joined. 10:37:27 morning 10:37:28 hi oerjan 10:38:17 morn morn 10:39:22 oerjan, Norsk stavning? 10:40:12 norsk slang 10:40:52 ah 10:41:03 proper spelling is "morgen" 10:41:26 similar to Swedish "morgon" indeed. 10:41:57 bbl 10:42:27 as i implied the other day, i find it amusing that !swedish tends to _add_ e's when the impression for a norwegian is the exact opposite 10:49:50 oerjan, mhm 10:50:12 impression? You mean when a Norwegian would think the reverse would apply for Swedish? 10:50:34 yes, you turn e's into other things all over the place :D 10:51:15 oerjan, I suspect it was actually the opposite, when you consider history :P 10:51:24 true 10:52:15 also it doesn't apply wrt all norwegian, many dialects and nynorsk have plenty of non-e 10:52:20 oerjan, but you say we *add* e:s too? (err what is the plural of "e"? I can't be e's, since that would be like "foo's bar"...) 10:52:37 oh wait, !swedish 10:52:38 right 10:52:39 nevertheless i think it's e's 10:52:48 yeah that command is so wrong :P 10:53:00 oerjan, e's what? 10:53:13 "e's" as the plural of "e" 10:53:17 :P 10:53:32 * oerjan swats AnMaster -----### 10:54:01 oerjan, go dance some samba then 10:54:11 * AnMaster wonders if oerjan will get that obscure reference 10:54:19 * oerjan won't 10:54:34 you know the software samba right? 10:54:46 barely 10:55:04 windows file sharing server/client tools for *nix. 10:55:17 that's the part i _know_ when i say barely 10:55:20 it's web config ui thingy is called SWAT 10:55:39 aha 10:55:51 iirc that stands for Samba Web Administration Tool 10:55:56 ok, that was better than i feared 10:56:05 oerjan, what did you fear then... 10:56:22 something even more incomprehensible 10:56:26 haha 11:01:30 bbl 11:10:23 -!- kar8nga has quit (Remote closed the connection). 11:29:10 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 11:29:12 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 11:40:09 -!- Corun has joined. 11:47:37 -!- MigoMipo has quit ("QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server"). 12:37:39 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 13:02:59 -!- Corun has quit. 13:38:19 -!- upyr[emacs] has joined. 13:58:04 -!- bsmntbombdood_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 14:27:44 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 14:34:13 -!- Patashu has quit ("Patashu/SteampunkX - MSN = Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM = Patashu0 , YIM = Patashu2 ."). 14:45:23 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 14:46:35 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 15:02:22 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Connection timed out). 15:27:35 -!- kar8nga has joined. 15:55:01 -!- pikhq has joined. 15:56:04 -!- HackBot has joined. 16:02:06 -!- iEhird has joined. 16:02:29 erik naggum 1965-2009 16:02:58 oerjan: and your batallion is weaker still :p 16:03:10 -!- iEhird has quit (Remote closed the connection). 16:14:34 -!- Hiato has joined. 16:30:04 -!- ais523 has joined. 16:41:55 -!- Hiato has quit (Remote closed the connection). 17:01:33 -!- kar8nga has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 17:26:50 `addquote EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" 17:26:59 HackBot: Hello? :P 17:27:54 Hm, HackBot is FreeNode-unresponsive ... 17:28:21 Ohhhhhhh, and I know why >_> 17:29:07 -!- HackBot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 17:29:10 who's HackBot? 17:30:22 -!- HackEgo has joined. 17:30:39 It's a bot I made that's sort of like EgoBot's !sh, but more powerful because it allows persistent files. 17:30:50 So anybody can add new commands, e.g. 17:30:52 `addquote EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" 17:30:53 5| EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" 17:35:23 That is, since addquote is just a file in $PWD/bin: 17:35:25 `ls bin 17:35:25 addquote \ calc \ define \ esolang \ google \ imdb \ quote 17:36:33 also, you're sharing a prefix with unlambda 17:37:05 Oh, I am? >_> 17:37:12 Well, unlambda isn't here ;P 17:37:32 bork bork b\o/rk 17:37:32 | 17:37:32 /'\ 17:37:55 `esolang 17:37:56 Use: `esolang 17:38:02 `esolang bf 17:38:03 Retrieved from "[8]http://esolangs.org/wiki/Bf" 17:38:03 -!- kar8nga has joined. 17:38:13 Heh, you need the full name :P 17:38:16 `esolang Brainfuck 17:38:17 Brainfuck is probably the most famous of the [6]esoteric programming languages, and has inspired the creation of a host of other languages. Due to the fact that the last half of its name is often considered one of the most offensive words in the English language, it is sometimes referred to as brainf***, brainf*ck, brainfsck, 17:38:26 It just fetches junk from the esolang wiki. 17:38:37 `esolang Main page 17:38:38 Retrieved from "[8]http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_page" 17:38:47 `esolang NTCM 17:38:48 NTCM is an [6]esoteric programming language developped by [7]user:Slereah. It is based on a [8]Turing machine with multiple tapes and I/O (the name stands for n-tape choice machine). 17:38:54 The best one there is. 17:38:57 `esolang EgoBot 17:38:58 This article is a stub, which means that it is not detailed enough and needs to be expanded. Please help us by adding some more information. 17:39:01 haha 17:39:07 ais523: Hrm :P 17:39:15 ais523: It's hard to guess what the relevant info is in a short shell script :P 17:39:19 `esolang Recursion 17:39:20 Retrieved from "[8]http://esolangs.org/wiki/Recursion" 17:41:30 Oh, and you can use `fetch to download stuff into the environment. But be careful of pastebins, most of them put \r\n-style newlines on so you'll have to run it through dos2unix for it to work. 17:47:40 Imagine, they use network newlines. 17:47:58 (yes, that's not just a DOS-ism, that's RFC. Whooo.) 17:48:01 But it doesn't matter after the headers :P 17:48:07 Oh, right. 17:48:11 LAME. 17:48:12 :P 18:03:39 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 18:08:06 -!- iEhird has joined. 18:08:46 PETA asked phish to rename to sea kitten. I'm not joking 18:08:54 -!- iEhird has quit (Remote closed the connection). 18:10:02 wow, it's true 18:11:03 I want some tasty land fish 18:15:07 DEAR PETA: 18:15:08 Fuck you. 18:15:10 Sincerely, 18:15:14 All fish worldwide 18:20:33 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 19:01:32 http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9172/1245456677307.jpg 19:20:38 hm, I remember someone in here made some tool to figure out shortest link path from one article to another on wikipedia... But I can't find it in the logs... 19:20:47 was it you GregorR? 19:20:49 that was GregorR, wasn't it? 19:21:03 ah 19:21:04 right 19:21:06 hi ais523 btw 19:21:12 I made a vaguely similar "tool" which is a game and not a tool :P 19:21:23 GregorR, so who made the tool then 19:21:24 AnMaster: http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~mu/wiki/ 19:24:41 Congratulations! You found Jesus in 4 clicks! 19:25:45 MigoMipo, heh 19:26:12 err, I meant GregorR there 19:26:19 MigoMipo, thanks 19:26:33 My pseudo-related thing is a web version of Five Clicks to Jesus 19:27:16 GregorR, I wonder how much longer the paths would be without articles like [[2007]] [[5]] and such 19:32:04 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 19:40:04 i read paths as penis :( 19:40:51 `addquote i read paths as penis :( 19:40:51 4| i read paths as penis :( 19:50:09 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 19:50:41 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 19:51:11 -!- oerjan has joined. 19:51:45 -!- CESSMASTER has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:52:38 08:02:29 erik naggum 1965-2009 19:52:38 08:02:58 oerjan: and your batallion is weaker still :p 19:52:50 he's dead? O_O 19:53:16 * oerjan swats that smile off ehird's face -----### 19:55:18 * oerjan thinks he _may_ have talked to naggum on usenet once. possibly. 19:57:31 who is thus naggum? 19:58:02 a nick? a real name? 19:58:27 real name. 19:59:00 google only gives "erik naggum" for that, The same? 19:59:32 any chance you could read more than three lines up? 19:59:58 oerjan, I don't want to give anyone a shock by doing that, so no 20:00:14 also it is probably against my religion or something. 20:00:27 well then you'll just have to remain ignorant on this issue as with others ;D 20:01:09 Random, silly idea. Funcfuck. Brainfuck with: variables, functions. Nothing else. ... Clearly, I'm bored on a Saturday. 20:02:00 pikhq, variables and functions.. hm. Details. 20:02:19 I guess you need variable assignment too 20:03:31 cp(x,y){@a x[y+a+x-] a[x+a-]} 20:03:58 pikhq, that isn't only variables though, that is a loop there. 20:04:03 but what does the @a do? 20:04:10 Declare a variable. 20:04:27 And yes, there's a loop. That's Brainfuck. 20:04:34 also addition and substraction 20:04:45 That's Brainfuck. Yes. 20:04:47 pikhq, then it isn't *only* variables and functions really ;P 20:04:57 "Brainfuck with". 20:05:01 (depends on what you meant with only there) 20:05:20 "Nothing else" meaning "that's all that's added". 20:05:23 pikhq, ah, I interpreted "Nothing else" as "remove all other bf stuff" 20:05:39 both interpretations were possible 20:05:57 Brainfuck with *only* variables and functions would not be Brainfuck. That'd be (lambda) and (def). 20:06:00 ;) 20:06:52 pikhq, that was my conclusion too. 20:06:54 * pikhq may want to use Gregor's Brainfuck ld for this; need to figure out how that works 20:07:16 pikhq, you could compile it into something else than bf 20:07:26 like, C, or whatever. Quite trivially 20:07:33 Yes. 20:07:42 pikhq, also, what is this "Brainfuck ld" 20:07:50 Part of c2bf. 20:07:59 It's a linker. For Brainfuck. 20:08:00 ah 20:08:16 pikhq, I was wondering "what sort of input", but that answered my question 20:08:31 (since you need some sort of metadata to perform meaningful linking) 20:08:41 a lot simpler than bf-ld, I imagine 20:08:45 because bf-ld's an assembler too 20:10:09 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:10:16 ais523, on the other hand, higher level input allows you to more easily do optimisations on the output. Which is why you don't use plain old object files for LTO, but some sort of extended format, such as llvm bytecode or whatever 20:10:19 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 20:10:35 and I can actually think of some possible LTO for bf yes 20:10:38 AnMaster: I don't really care about link-time optimisations for gcc-bf 20:10:49 just simple things like efficient multiplication are hard enough 20:11:36 for example: based on profile feedback (or heuristics if profile feedback isn't available) try to place called functions close to the caller. 20:11:57 especially the data that is 20:12:28 the function itself too maybe, if it means you can just go straight into that function, skipping the main switch thingy. Would help for tail calls I guess.. 20:12:45 (probably far from trivial) 20:13:16 ais523, at what layer of gcc does it handle tail call optimisation 20:13:23 (I know I read that it does) 20:13:28 I'd imagine it's in RTL. 20:13:31 AnMaster: I don't know off hand 20:13:39 but it'll either be at the RTL or GENERIC level, most likely 20:13:41 or possibly at GIMPLE 20:13:50 brb phone 20:17:22 ais523: It's hard to guess what the relevant info is in a short shell script :P 20:17:44 you could look for the ''' title bolding 20:18:09 I'm downloading the rendered HTML, not the source wikicode. 20:18:24 look for bold tags then 20:18:47 `wc -l bin/esolang 20:18:52 Erm 20:18:54 `run wc -l bin/esolang 20:18:55 11 bin/esolang 20:18:59 Idonwanna 20:22:19 -!- augur_ has joined. 20:22:20 -!- augur has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 20:25:55 `run uname -a 20:25:56 Linux codu.org 2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 20:39:26 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux 20:26:50 ais523, but the output of gcc-bf is tail call optimised too right? 20:27:01 since the switch for it is an -f one, not an -m one 20:27:03 I don't know 20:27:10 I wasn't modifying the bit of gcc that does that 20:27:24 Easy to test if you've got gcc-bf producing functioning output. 20:27:58 ais523, btw, much to do in "RL" still? 20:28:19 AnMaster: no, but I've just finished my degree 20:28:27 and am not in much of a mood to do anything, I'm rather tired and breathless 20:28:44 ais523 the zombie 20:29:07 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:29:24 LAP KITTY 20:29:32 Tia would be a better lap kitty if she wasn't so overweight :P 20:29:41 ais523, I understand 20:30:49 I've got a provisional first, which is great 20:32:28 -!- puzzlet_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 20:33:11 "provisional first"? The google results I get are all about US tax... 20:33:20 * GregorR has no idea what that means in context. 20:33:41 yay, I'm not alone then 20:33:58 ok, there are five ranks of degree results you can get in the UK 20:34:07 first (best), upper second, lower second, third, and pass 20:34:11 also, fail, but that isn't a degree at all 20:34:28 and provisional just means that the mark hasn't been approved by the final appeals board people yet 20:34:38 generally speaking, though, they leave marks the same unless there's an appeal 20:34:39 isn't "fail" a meme? 20:34:45 ~ 20:34:57 AnMaster: it's also a possible result from exams 20:37:13 lawl 20:37:15 ais523, I was joking... 20:37:59 and your exam result is... "great success!" 20:38:31 lol 20:38:53 ALL YOUR EXAM ARE BELONG TO US 20:39:08 oerjan, what meme is that... 20:39:11 borat 20:39:20 ah ok 20:39:43 * oerjan sometimes feels slightly bad about using memes from sources he hasn't seen himself... 20:39:54 but then, probably everyone does 20:40:31 Why aren't there any memes based on the works of Shakespeare for example? Or are there? 20:40:48 famous quotes yes 20:40:52 but not internet memes 20:41:02 some of those are probably so ingrained in english that no one knows they are memes... 20:41:11 except philologists 20:41:26 *shakespeare memes 20:41:31 many words in common English usage were apparently invented by Shakespeare 20:41:38 ais523, such as? 20:41:40 since in principle every word is a meme 20:41:44 I can't remember offhand 20:41:49 but a websearch will probably find out 20:41:57 what a silly wallops. 20:42:04 bbiab 20:42:10 `google words invented by shakespeare 20:42:10 And what really gets my goat up is you thinking that Shakespeare borrowed words that were already in existance at the time he did not, he INVENTED these ... \ piksels.com/words-invented-by-shakespeare/ - [17]Cached - [18]Similar 20:42:23 http://www.nosweatshakespeare.com/resources/shakespeare-words.htm is one interesting result 20:42:32 I don't know how accurate it is, but it contains words such as "apostrophe" 20:42:46 ais523: i seem to vaguely recall reading that that is a bit of a myth based on he being just the first known source of a word... 20:42:58 quite probably 20:43:02 but then, that may have been a myth too 20:43:11 I don't see any reason why Shakespeare would be the one to invent apostrophes 20:43:30 Apostrophe has another meaning than ', it could have been that one 20:43:54 ah wikipedia supports me 20:43:56 Although dictionary.com suggests that specifically the ' meaning originated during Shakespeare's time 20:44:10 "It is often stated that Shakespeare "invented" ("coined") more words into English than any other author. This is a misconception . rather, Shakespeare's works are often the earliest cited written record of many words in such dictionaries as the Oxford English Dictionary (OED)." 20:44:49 although that section has disturbingly no citations 20:45:10 Citations are for the weak. 20:45:35 the next section says the exact opposite, and is littered with "citation needed" :D 20:45:55 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare's_influence) 20:47:20 incidentally, Enigma fans: http://download.berlios.de/enigma-game/ExtralifeCandidates.png 20:47:25 they want to replace the extra life symbol 20:47:36 and those are the four suggested replacements 20:49:16 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ 20:49:42 Y'know what Esotope needs? A brainfuck backend. 20:54:53 that article seems to have become rather confusing as the result of merging at least 3 older articles 20:55:56 incidentally, Enigma fans: http://download.berlios.de/enigma-game/ExtralifeCandidates.png <--- application/x-download ? wth? 20:56:03 too much work to open 20:56:07 so didn't look :P 20:56:24 wm;dl (wrong mime type, didn't look) 20:56:31 AnMaster: yep, I was having trouble too 20:56:43 but then, the Enigma people never seem to put information up in a sensible manner 20:56:50 mhm 20:56:52 I remember them linking to a Flash video rather than embedding it, for instance 20:57:26 ais523, ok I opened it from inside gimp 20:57:35 I don't understand what that picture is showing... 20:58:02 AnMaster: it's an Enigma level 20:58:07 ok... 20:58:09 with the new extralife symbols added 20:58:13 ah 20:58:15 right 20:58:19 the question is, which of the four yellow symbols works best as an extralife 20:58:52 ais523, I thought it was some new system to replace extra lives... 20:58:58 anyway the current one look best 20:58:59 no, just a different image 20:59:02 the other one looks out of place 20:59:13 especially the colour scheme 20:59:14 and they want to move away from the current one, as it looks identical to a new actor they want to add 20:59:31 ais523, why not use one of those symbols as the actor then ;P 20:59:44 would be less confusing for old players 20:59:54 AnMaster: because it wouldn't look like a black version of the meditation marble 21:00:01 ah right 21:02:20 ais523, they should make the main ball yellow too then (which would rather defeat the point as well) 21:02:45 the extralives are black on the ground even if you have a white marble, though 21:02:47 which makes no sense 21:04:33 ais523, agreed 21:09:37 -!- augur has joined. 21:10:01 -!- augur has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:10:30 -!- augur has joined. 21:10:48 -!- augur_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:16:06 * GregorR can't figure out a way to make HackEgo support wolfram-alpha. 21:16:10 Stupid JS :P 21:16:59 GregorR, you can't say that. Coding a MIPS emulator in JS then saying stupid JS... You are disqualified. 21:17:12 JS IS ALWAYS STUPID 21:23:54 Warrigal: feel free. 21:23:56 Hai. 21:25:09 11:52:38 08:02:29 erik naggum 1965-2009 21:25:09 v 21:25:11 11:59:00 google only gives "erik naggum" for that, The same? 21:25:13 Lol. 21:25:38 12:01:09 Random, silly idea. Funcfuck. Brainfuck with: variables, functions. Nothing else. ... Clearly, I'm bored on a Saturday. 21:25:41 Gee, exciting! 21:26:37 * pikhq is thinking of implementing a Forth, instead. Significantly more useful and all that. 21:27:09 pikhq: A Forth; Forths. Forthii. Forthae. 21:29:21 archaic plural forms? 21:29:28 It's called Latin, swine. 21:29:47 svin kan du vara själv i så fall 21:29:54 Cithius, Althius, Forthius 21:30:20 12:27:58 ais523, btw, much to do in "RL" still? 21:30:24 clearly AnMaster has never been a university student 21:30:50 ehird, I wasn't sure if it was summer holidays for him yet. 21:30:59 what with different such in different countries too 21:31:00 :p 21:31:50 nevar :o 21:34:55 12:47:20 incidentally, Enigma fans: http://download.berlios.de/enigma-game/ExtralifeCandidates.png 21:34:55 12:47:25 they want to replace the extra life symbol 21:34:57 12:47:36 and those are the four suggested replacements 21:34:59 none of them. 21:35:01 there is no reason for it to be in a yellow box. 21:35:06 make it a red heart 21:35:50 if you disagree, you're wrong :) :P 21:36:15 13:16:06 * GregorR can't figure out a way to make HackEgo support wolfram-alpha. 21:36:15 13:16:10 Stupid JS :P 21:36:21 GregorR: hook into webkit then kill yourself 21:37:09 * pikhq is crazy, and thinking of writing a Brainfuck Forth. 21:37:22 pikhq: Considered that, started, gave up; it's not actually all that interesting. 21:37:27 pikhq: It'd be a fairly trivial translation of JonesForth. 21:37:47 pikhq: Write a minimal forth forth that can forth itself :-) 21:38:08 Hah. 21:38:35 ehird: actually, I may have said this already. 21:38:41 Quite a few Forths are written in Forth, apparently, or at least used to be; I suppose that's less common what with Forth not being very ubiquitous these days and certainly things like gforth and RetroForth aren't written in Forth. 21:38:46 But it'd be fun. 21:38:55 Anyway, OMG SOMETIMES HOW IT WORKS IN NATURE IS BETTER THAN SOME RANDOM THING YOU CAME UP WITH 21:38:56 Warrigal: Well, say it again anyway; whatever it is, I've probably forgotten it. 21:39:05 Warrigal: Now, what was that in response to? 21:39:25 Something along the lines of OMG SOMETIMES GENETIC ALGORITHMS DON'T WORK EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AS IN NATURE 21:39:51 Warrigal: If that's what I said, then your response is stupid :p 21:40:11 Telling me it's stupid isn't going to help, because I already think that it's not stupid. 21:40:30 That's OK. 21:40:35 Great! 21:40:44 Bleh, I can't even convince wolfram to generate a PDF for me :P 21:40:45 Warrigal: you're an butt. 21:40:55 GregorR: He's too busy fondling his ego. 21:40:56 Weird. 21:41:20 GregorR: Fun fact: that "PDF" link is actually a . 21:41:32 I'm well aware of that. 21:41:35 The "Mathematica form" links on some inputs? They're javascript: links. 21:41:40 Consistency hyuk hyuk! 21:42:07 I tried going to the URL specified in the JS manually, but it figures out I'm being sneaky and doesn't generate the PDF :P 21:42:34 fake referer 21:43:12 Mmm, referrer, that's a good point >_> 21:43:55 GregorR: Referer. It's in the HTTP spec. 21:44:01 An HTTP referer is a referrer. 21:44:02 Um, duh. 21:44:13 YOU SHALL EXHALT THE EXHALTED TYPO. 21:44:38 Hmm, seems like http://lemonodor.com/ is dead. No posts since september and the main page just links to archives instead of recent posts. 21:46:09 Nope, referrer didn't solve it ... 21:46:22 Maybe it's because I'm not actually generating all the data in the first place :P 21:47:59 I think someone mentioned a "don't ever remove anything" file system in here some months ago. 21:48:09 mentioned as "discussed the idea" 21:48:28 seems like the lastest linux kernel supports such an FS 21:48:49 a* 21:50:41 -!- kar8nga has quit (Remote closed the connection). 21:52:15 "Exalt", isn't it? 21:52:53 Warrigal, ? 21:53:03 AnMaster: ehird said "exhalt". 21:53:13 You're a butt 21:53:14 ah 21:53:17 up there 21:53:24 ex-salt 21:53:34 AnMaster: You can... look up? 21:53:36 Further than 3 lines? 21:53:40 THIS CHANGES. EVERYTHING. 21:53:56 ehird, only when the phase of the moon is exactly correct 21:54:02 Like your mom 21:54:06 oh and about 500 other variables too 22:00:16 Well, I can get wolframalpha to give me the necessary data in JSON format :P 22:00:46 Including graphs? 22:01:08 Do you think graphs are going to make it here? 22:02:16 >:( 22:04:25 * GregorR just doesn't understand why the PDF part isn't working ... I can get all the data, I just can't convince it to make a PDF :( 22:05:54 It's because I'm a retord! 22:06:54 Just in case you haven't noticed (although you probably already know); you're actively trying to be in violation of the W|A Terms of Use: "The Wolfram|Alpha service may be used only by a human being using a conventional web browser to manually enter queries one at a time." 22:07:54 GregorR: So, think you could describe the format of your Brainfuck ld? 22:07:57 they also claim people under 18 can't use 22:08:28 pikhq: I doubt it :P 22:08:41 fizzie: *yawn* 22:08:53 ... So, don't even remember it. Great. 22:09:02 Fills me with confidence in trying to use it for anything. :P 22:10:33 pikhq: If you read the file, try to figure something out, then ask me, I may be jogged into remembering :P 22:11:15 this information is available only on a need-to-know basis. even to the author. 22:11:15 Alright. 22:11:25 `fetch http://pastebin.ca/raw/1467987 22:11:26 2009-06-20 21:11:25 URL:http://pastebin.ca/raw/1467987 [846/846] -> "1467987" [1] 22:11:42 `run mv "1467987" bin/wolfram; dos2unix bin/wolfram; chmod 0755 bin/wolfram; echo done 22:11:42 done 22:11:48 `wolfram distance to jupiter 22:11:56 distance to jupiter Input interpretation: Jupiter Current result: distance from Earth 4.436 AU astronomical units Value: 6.636 108 km kilometers Comparison as distance: 4.4 mean Earth Sun distance Corresponding quantity: 1 AU Solar radiation pressure from P 0.23 µPa micropascals L c4Πr2 : Generated by Wolfram|Alpha 22:11:56 `wolfram PLOT DISTANCE TO JUPITER OVER TIME LOLOLOL 22:12:02 GregorR: Needs moar \ 22:12:05 $Failed 22:12:54 GregorR: 22:12:54 http://www81.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=distance+to+jupiter+over+time 22:12:57 Jupiter | distance from Earth | current time 22:12:57 location Over,United Kingdom 22:13:09 ehird: >: ( 22:13:20 Over, UK 22:13:21 lol 22:13:37 The distance is much greater from over the US. 22:13:43 IN AU 22:13:50 `calc 4.436 au in miles 22:13:51 4.43600 Astronomical Units = 412 352 317 miles 22:13:57 4.426 Australians 22:14:12 GregorR: Of (stack heap stack-marker walk carry), what is the pointer on? 22:14:30 pikhq: Stack unless there's reason for it to be elsewhere. 22:14:40 (i.e. you're mid-operation) 22:16:22 `calc number of faggots in a nigger butt 22:16:23 www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=+nigger+faggot - [19]Similar 22:16:27 `wolfram number of faggots in a nigger butt 22:16:34 $Failed 22:16:40 `wolfram number of faggots in a faggot 22:16:47 number of faggots in a faggot Input interpretation: convert 1 faggot to faggots Result: 1 faggot Additional conversions: 0.027 m3 cubic meters Comparisons: (6 10 4 to 0.0014) twenty foot equivalent unit 680 to 1520 ft3 Interpretation: volume Basic unit dimensions: 3 length Generated by Wolfram|Alpha (www.wolframalpha.com) 22:16:56 how denigrating 22:17:04 `wolfram faggots per second in miles per second 22:17:11 faggots per second in miles per second \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ convert 1 faggots s faggot per second to miles per second \ Result: \ \ faggots s faggots per second and mi s miles per second are not compatible. \ \ Unit information: \ \ unit \ faggots s faggots per second \ \ dimensions length time length \ 3 \ \ 22:17:21 `wolfram speed of light in faggots per second 22:17:28 speed of light in faggots per second \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ convert 1 c speed of light in vacuum to faggots per second \ Result: \ \ c speed of light in vacuum and faggots s faggots per second are not compatible. \ \ Unit information: \ \ unit \ c speed of light in vacuum \ \ dimensions length time length \ 3 \ \ 22:17:38 ehird: are you trying to understand what you're equivalent to in normal units of measure? 22:17:40 because it wont work. 22:18:04 `wolfram 1 au in beardseconds 22:18:10 1 au in beardseconds \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ convert 1 AU astronomical unit to beard seconds Nordling and Österman convention \ Result: \ \ 2.99195741383 1019 beard seconds Nordling and Österman convention \ Additional conversions: \ \ 1.49597870692 108 km kilometers \ Interpretation: \ \ length \ Corresponding 22:18:35 `wolfram poorest countries in asia 22:18:41 poorest countries in asia \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ poorest country in Asia \ \ Result by GDP per capita: \ \ 1 2 3 4 5 \ \ Myanmar Afghanistan Nepal Tajikistan East Timor \ \ $216.50 per year $217.79 per year $273.19 per year $359.97 per year $374.21 per year \ \ Generated by Wolfram|Alpha (www.wolframalpha.com) 22:18:58 GregorR, is HackEgo some variant of EgoBot? 22:19:11 Not really. 22:19:17 then what is hackego 22:19:19 `wolfram deaths / world gdp 22:19:27 deaths world gdp \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ world \ \ annual deaths GDP \ \ world \ Result: \ \ 1.212 10 \ History: \ \ 6 \ \ people $ people per US dollar \ \ 2006 estimate \ \ prune`result \ Currency conversions: \ \ JPY EUR GBP CNY CAD MXN \ \ 1.252 10 1.697 10 1.997 10 1.766 10 1.07 10 \ 6 \ \ 8 8 8 7 \ \ 22:19:29 It's like EgoBot's !sh, but with a persistent data storage area. 22:19:43 GregorR: That result is totally useless compared to the online one 22:19:57 ehird: My lack of interest is palpable :P 22:20:21 GregorR: But it gets the result completely wrong. "1.212 10" != "1.212 x 10^-6 people/$" 22:20:32 ehird: My lack of interest is palpable :P 22:21:11 Then I'm not sure why 22:21:14 you bothered 22:21:38 `define palpable 22:21:39 * capable of being perceived; especially capable of being handled or touched or felt; "a barely palpable dust"; "felt sudden anger in a palpable ... \ * can be felt by palpation; "a palpable tumor" \ [15]wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn 22:22:08 ehird: I'm sorry that your particular pet function doesn't come across properly. Where by "sorry" I mean "I don't care" 22:22:20 why those \ \ sometimes? 22:22:30 AnMaster: Two newlines 22:22:30 seems a bit too many as separators 22:22:45 GregorR, what about converting that into | or something 22:22:49 a single such 22:22:51 `wolfram The Answer to the Ultimate Question 22:22:56 The Answer to the Ultimate Question \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ answer to life, the universe, and everything \ Result: \ \ 42 \ according to Douglas Adams' humorous science fiction novel Hitchhiker ' s Guide to the Galaxy \ \ Generated by Wolfram|Alpha (www.wolframalpha.com) on June 20, 2009 from Champaign, IL. © Wolfram 22:23:08 <*> GregorR: Anything you implement is insufficient in some whiny and ridiculous way! 22:23:09 appears to be working 22:23:34 GregorR, I think it is currently great, but could be even better 22:23:51 * pikhq contemplates 22:24:12 `run echo 'cat >/dev/null' > bin/GregorR 22:24:31 `GregorR Help! 22:24:46 You realize it's not chmod 0755, right? :P 22:25:00 `run ls -l bin/GregorR 22:25:00 -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 15 Jun 20 21:25 bin/GregorR 22:25:17 `run chmod a+x bin/GregorR 22:25:22 `run ls -l bin/GregorR 22:25:22 -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 5000 15 Jun 20 21:25 bin/GregorR 22:25:23 GregorR, anyone can run such commands? 22:25:25 even wget? 22:25:29 `GregorR Help! 22:25:34 AnMaster: wget is limited to certain whitelisted URLs. 22:25:36 wait, `fetch was separate 22:25:38 right 22:25:43 `ls 22:25:43 bin \ quotes 22:25:48 AnMaster: `fetch will download any URL, but isn't scriptable. 22:26:03 GregorR, what urls are white listed 22:26:12 `type wget 22:26:15 `ls bin 22:26:15 GregorR \ addquote \ calc \ define \ esolang \ google \ imdb \ quote \ wolfram 22:26:18 `which wget 22:26:18 /usr/bin/wget 22:26:23 .google.com .esolangs.org .imdb.com .wikipedia.org .wolframalpha.com 22:26:27 `echo $BASH_VERSION 22:26:27 $BASH_VERSION 22:26:30 err 22:26:44 GregorR, does it do system() or execute them in a shell 22:26:45 Use `run to get shell expansion. Without `run it's interpreted literally, so that things like `addquote will work. 22:26:51 ah 22:27:03 `run echo $BASH VERSION 22:27:04 /bin/bash VERSION 22:27:06 `run echo $BASH_VERSION 22:27:07 3.2.48(1)-release 22:27:13 Otherwise `addquote hi would try to input GregorR to addquote :P 22:27:32 GregorR, with output sent to hi 22:27:37 Yup :P 22:27:54 `run echo $PATH 22:27:54 /tmp/hackenv.14507/bin:/usr/bin:/bin 22:28:00 `run echo $PWD 22:28:01 /tmp/hackenv.14543 22:28:06 `run echo $HOME 22:28:06 /home/hackbot 22:28:14 `run file bin 22:28:14 bin: directory 22:28:23 GregorR, you copy bin a lot? 22:28:29 or mount bind it? 22:28:31 It's an hg clone 22:28:44 GregorR, could you white list kernel.org? 22:29:07 If you give me a reason? :P 22:29:29 GregorR, easier to download a kernel tarball from it and compile a kernel over irc :P 22:29:46 It has time and file size limits, so that would never even begin to work :P 22:29:52 meh 22:29:58 GregorR, GET A BETTER CPU THEN 22:30:07 to make it possible in the time limit 22:30:14 some 30 GHz would be nice 22:30:24 Compiling a kernel in 30 seconds would be BITCHIN' SWEET :P 22:30:33 GregorR, so it would. 22:30:36 tcc can do that. 22:30:45 pikhq, it can't compile the kernel afaik 22:30:51 but yes it could otherwise 22:30:55 AnMaster: It can compile the kernel /while you boot/ 22:30:55 AnMaster: Yes, it can. 22:30:57 because all it does is basic constant folding 22:30:59 nothing else 22:30:59 It does it in like 15 seconds. 22:31:10 http://bellard.org/tcc/tccboot.html 22:31:16 TCCBOOT is only 138 KB big (uncompressed code) and it can compile and run a typical Linux kernel in less than 15 seconds on a 2.4 GHz Pentium 4. 22:31:25 ehird, iirc it failed on "kernel didn't know compiler specific header" or something 22:31:34 AnMaster: Tell that to tccboot? 22:31:40 ehird, was normal tcc 22:31:50 so how does tccboot extend it hm 22:31:50 ... 22:31:52 Tccboot uses normal tcc. 22:31:56 It's written by the tcc author. 22:31:57 ehird, strange then 22:31:58 This is in 2004, though. 22:32:04 tccboot uses a disputably small patch to the kernel. 22:32:07 was about half a year ago I tried 22:32:51 ehird, tccboot uses 2.4 kernel 22:32:54 I was trying with 2.6 22:32:59 AnMaster: Because it was made in 2004. 22:33:04 2.6.21 or so iirc 22:33:15 ehird, yes, but I was talking about the current state of matters 22:36:55 `wolfram melting point of apples 22:37:01 melting point of apples \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ apples \ Result: \ \ melting point \ \ 29.3 °C degrees Celsius \ Unit conversions: \ \ 302.5 K kelvins \ Thermal properties: \ \ melting point optimal storage temperature specific heat \ \ 29.3 °C 1.5 °C 3.64 J g °C \ \ Generated by Wolfram|Alpha (www.wolframalpha.com) 22:37:10 WTF X-D 22:37:55 `calc 29.3c in f 22:37:55 29.3 degrees Celsius = 84.74 degrees Fahrenheit 22:38:24 all forms of time limits should be abolished 22:38:26 the quality of apples is not what it used to be 22:38:26 `wolfram full name of Jesus 22:38:32 full name of Jesus \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ Jesus Christ \ Result: \ \ full name \ \ Yeshua Ha Nozri \ \ Generated by Wolfram|Alpha (www.wolframalpha.com) on June 20, 2009 from Champaign, IL. © Wolfram Alpha LLC—A Wolfram Research Company \ \ 1 \ \ 22:38:43 I realise this isn't done over a night 22:38:50 especially the physical ones 22:38:57 AnMaster: what are you talking about 22:39:01 How many of us here knew that his full name was Yeshua Ha Nozri? 22:39:01 but in the long term they should be 22:39:16 AnMaster: you're on crack 22:39:16 ehird, hm? 22:39:24 AnMaster: well no one cares about abolishing time limits in the _short_ term anyway *ducks* 22:39:43 oerjan, good point indeed 22:39:58 Warrigal: i guess Nozri means "from Nazareth"... 22:40:46 Ha Nozri means that. 22:40:56 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 22:41:42 google points to Bulgakov's The Master and Margarita 22:42:29 yes 22:43:23 to begin with, abolish time limits like those for tests in schools, or for payment of invoices and such. Those are easy. In the future we ("we": humans in general) aim to abolish time limits like the life span of humans (immortality in other words), having to go to bed/wake up, (stop earth's rotation, let people move across the "border" of the day/night when they wanted, note: you need to solve the cl 22:43:23 imate impact somehow too), and the heat death of the universe. 22:43:32 far from trivial indeed. 22:43:48 it does not occur in wp's Jesus article 22:44:07 If it's not on the Oracle, it's not Truth. 22:44:07 oerjan, just add it and cite W|A? 22:44:16 AnMaster: so what is your justification for this mad rant? 22:44:29 ehird, *blink* 22:44:30 I do like the idea of abolishing time limits for the payment of invoices. 22:44:38 It's like a credit card without the payment step! 22:44:44 ehird, and tests in school 22:44:45 FREE EVERYTHING! 22:44:49 Wooooooooooohoooooo 22:44:56 as I mentioned 22:44:56 [the economy promptly collapses] 22:45:10 ehird, isn't it doing that already anyway 22:45:25 Yes, but I'm fairly sure the solution isn't "make everything free". 22:45:29 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:45:32 AnMaster: it's not even in the Yeshua (name) article 22:45:41 so the nozri part may be dubious 22:45:49 ehird, it will definitely get the job done quicket 22:45:51 quicker* 22:45:57 -!- ais523 has joined. 22:46:02 AnMaster: so why do you want to do all this crazy stuff? 22:46:25 ehird, of course this mean you don't know when the stuff you ordered will be delivered either 22:46:40 UPS doesn't have a time limit either 22:46:50 AnMaster: So basically you want the entire world to collapse? 22:47:00 So. uh. Why? 22:47:23 ehird, for UPS you wouldn't notice the difference I think 22:47:30 *zing* 22:47:48 I have my own rant. 22:47:57 but why? 22:47:59 All life should be erased, not overnight of course. 22:48:00 isn't that clear 22:48:03 How this could be done: Kill everyone. 22:48:09 brb → 22:48:14 ehird, that is another way to do it 22:48:16 good idea! 22:48:32 MWHAHAHAHAHAHA! 22:48:50 ehird, Together we shall destroy the world! 22:49:08 the project is already underway. problem is those pesky critters keep breeding faster than Death can remove them 22:49:46 oerjan, nuclear weapons will fix that. Of course, they might take an unknown time to deploy 22:49:57 and explode 22:50:30 only those on Earth 22:50:41 it will soon be reseeded, surely 22:50:53 oerjan, um? I said in the whole universe in the long term 22:51:06 -!- pikhq has joined. 22:51:06 or at least implied it 22:51:15 when I mentioned the heat death of the universe 22:51:27 hah, the hardy ones in outer space don't care about a bit of radiation 22:52:22 -!- Halph has joined. 22:53:03 -!- coppro has quit (Nick collision from services.). 22:53:04 and for the heat death method, you'll have to prevent them from escaping to a new universe. crushing all signs of intelligence might help there. 22:53:27 -!- Halph has changed nick to coppro. 22:54:51 http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Perl 22:54:52 ^_^ 22:56:02 `esolang Perl 22:56:03 We'll write more about Perl after we decipher the following code: 22:57:36 -!- Halph has joined. 22:57:46 -!- coppro has quit (Nick collision from services.). 22:57:52 -!- Halph has changed nick to coppro. 22:59:33 back 22:59:52 pikhq: old 23:00:06 also, i believe entropy can be reversed; am I bonkers? 23:00:09 or rather 23:00:10 stopped 23:00:14 :p 23:00:16 (long-term.) 23:00:24 ehird : Entropy isn't a real law 23:00:25 Hi there, Multivac. 23:00:29 It's just a statistical thing 23:00:36 i know 23:00:38 Entropy can diminish 23:00:42 It's just very unlikely 23:00:52 what I meant was that I believe that in time, we can make this universe habitable indefinitely 23:01:51 Nah, I don't think we can do it that way 23:01:59 'that way'? 23:01:59 What we can do is find INFINITE ENERGY and shit 23:02:04 well, yeh 23:02:08 Always useful to beat entropy 23:02:17 Slereah_: but infinite energy is another fuck you to the first law of thermodynamics :P 23:02:20 Just steal usable energy from other universes! 23:02:30 Slereah_: infinite energy doesn't prevent the universe dying as far as I know, though 23:02:43 Slereah_: then we get alternate universe people coming through to complain 23:02:57 Only if there's people 23:02:59 And fuck them 23:03:07 *bow chicka bow wow* 23:03:09 "Here, take that entropy!" 23:05:27 I'm trying to think of something dirty along the lines of "Increase the entropy o' that bitch" but it's just not working. 23:06:01 Oh yeah, take that number of microstates 23:07:55 http://www.webcomicsnation.com/shaenongarrity/narbonic/series.php?view=archive&chapter=13510 (fourth strip) 23:08:33 it's a bit slow to load 23:08:51 oerjan: Heh. 23:09:18 If time travel is possible, we can probably just time travel to the first point in time where shit's cool in the universe and kick back, relax, and stop other life from forming. 23:09:20 Repeat forever. 23:09:50 hm... maybe we already did 23:09:59 that _would_ explain the fermi paradox 23:10:30 Fermi paradox is quite stupid. Uhh, speed of light, anyone? 23:10:41 huh? 23:11:12 Fermi's paradox is based on the idea that alien civilisation are willing to launch extensive interstellar space programs with no return in their lifetime 23:11:28 Or possibly in the lifetime of their civilisation 23:12:23 well, that a fraction of them are 23:13:15 oerjan: we don't see alien shit because alien shit is far too far away 23:14:40 the paradox is not just about why we cannot see them. it's about why don't we see them _here_ 23:15:10 for which Slereah_'s question is relevant 23:15:18 er, observation 23:15:35 oerjan: i don't get what you mean 23:15:49 what's odd about aliens being really fucking far away from us 23:16:13 ehird: the size of the galaxy is no obstacle for a sufficiently patient civilization. they could colonize it in a few million years 23:16:42 oerjan: there's nothing to say that they should be motivated and finished _now_, though 23:16:55 come back in a few billion years. it's a big, big space and not a lot of shit in it. 23:18:04 ehird: the assumption is that unless we are really one of the very first civilizations, others would _already_ have arisen billions of years ago 23:18:12 Cut to 10^100 years. 23:18:14 *nothingness* 23:18:27 oerjan: yes, but add the factors of "gigantic space, large distances separation, and motivation" 23:18:36 and it's not at all unlikely that we don't see alien shit. 23:18:46 then add population growth 23:18:53 sure, but still 23:18:58 i don't get why it's so odd. 23:19:25 it's not odd that _some_ civilization wouldn't expand. it's odd that _none_ would, if there were many 23:20:03 shrug 23:20:12 oerjan: think about how uncommon life probably is, though 23:20:12 and if one of them _has_ an intrinsic drive to expand, they should fill the entire galaxy in a few million years 23:20:18 meh 23:20:46 sure, that is one solution to the fermi paradox, to say that life is so rare that we're alone in the galaxy and then some 23:21:19 no 23:21:20 not alone 23:21:25 Y'know what's annoying? When things that are not paradoxes are called paradoxes. 23:21:30 life just isn't so insanely common that it's unlikely that none of them conquer everywhere 23:21:31 e.g. Fermi "paradox", twin "paradox" 23:21:39 GregorR: Birthday "paradox", curry's "paradox". 23:21:43 There are two kinds of paradox. 23:21:54 "Weird shit" is not a correct definition of paradox. 23:21:58 It's a misuse of the term. 23:22:08 Go complain to everyone for hundreds of fuckin' years. 23:22:14 Well, paradox is kinda ill defined 23:23:38 `define paradox 23:23:38 * (logic) a statement that contradicts itself; "`I always lie' is a paradox because if it is true it must be false" \ [22]wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn \ * Paradox is the fourth studio album released by Royal Hunt. 23:23:48 -!- jix_ has joined. 23:23:55 ugh, that's a really bad example 23:23:58 due to not being paradoxical 23:24:07 I could falsely, but non-paradoxically, claim that I always lie 23:24:14 because I have told the truth at least once 23:24:14 Yup :P 23:24:22 "This is a lie" is a better one. 23:24:38 (Or "this statement is false" to be a bit more formal) 23:25:23 If I'm not mistaken, then this sentence is paradoxical. 23:25:35 THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE IS TRUE 23:25:40 THE PREVIOUS SENTENCE IS FALSE 23:25:43 DURR 23:27:07 Y'know, it's funny how corny sci-fi seems to think that will lock up a robot or computer... 23:27:32 MUST FULLY RESOLVE ALL STATEMENTS GIVEN AS INPUT 23:27:37 MUST - FULLY - RESOLVE 23:27:38 Now why would they think that that that that that that that that 23:27:43 Shame computers don't do formal logic. Or even informal logic, really. :P 23:27:53 some do 23:29:50 pikhq: Sure they do formal logic. 23:30:00 Curry-Howard isomorphism, anyone? 23:30:04 Shame computers don't taste like chicken. 23:30:08 Ah, yes. 23:30:43 What if the computer runs on Mercury? 23:30:47 Or prolog? 23:31:09 What's the most used language in AI research anyway, apart from homecooked ones? 23:31:31 Lisp 23:31:55 GregorR: That's a bit of a cliché. 23:32:02 Slereah_: AI research is, uh, nonexistent nowadays. 23:32:24 C'mon, not non-existant 23:32:30 Rare but still 23:32:50 "The sky is red" is a paradox because if it is true it must be false. 23:32:55 :-P 23:33:07 You just blew my mind dude 23:33:19 bool foo(function x){return x() == true;} bool bar(function x){ return x() == false;} int main(){assert(foo(bar));} 23:33:47 :P 23:33:59 LOOP WHILE TRUE != FALSE 23:34:29 I do believe that the result of *that* mess is "Segmentation fault -- core dumped." 23:35:01 -!- jix has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 23:35:36 No, no. It'd just fail. 23:35:49 s/x()/x(foo)/ s/x()/x(bar)/ 23:37:23 -!- MigoMipo has quit ("QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server"). 23:39:05 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote closed the connection). 23:51:10 pikhq, yeah, they aren't tail calls 23:51:28 so stack will overflow 23:51:40 (that is, assuming your correction) 23:51:55 (and a relevant typedef for "function" 23:52:02 hm 23:52:03 * ehird devises more of his Semi-Perfect Language For Now ^_^ 23:52:23 pikhq, actually the type of function would have to be a non-prototyped function 23:52:55 you can't express a recursive typedef in C 23:53:26 or one taking a non-prototyped function 23:53:38 might need some casts 23:53:46 ehird, what is that language 23:53:52 AnMaster: a new lisp. 23:54:30 ah 23:54:31 night 23:54:33 A new liffp? 23:55:48 Yes. 23:55:55 GregorR: You mean lithp. 23:56:09 !swedish lisp 23:56:10 leesp 23:56:25 !swedish leesp 23:56:25 leesp 23:57:07 !swedish lithp 23:57:07 leethp 23:57:46 !swedish pancakes 23:57:46 puncekes 23:58:39 AnMaster: "Relevant typedef"? That's just C++0x. 23:58:59 (in C++0x, functions are of type function. Neat, huh?) 23:59:40 No. Not neat. 23:59:44 Not well-typed, yes.