00:00:15 * oerjan swats ais523 -----### 00:00:18 ouch! 00:00:24 ais523: pretty epic story, though 00:01:26 yes 00:01:33 I wonder what she was meant to be employed for? 00:02:09 ais523: er? 00:02:18 ais523: what do you mean? 00:02:29 I mean, presumably there was some reason he was involved with her in the first place 00:02:33 ais523: girlfriend 00:02:35 read the post 00:02:36 ah 00:03:36 oh god, a jeff atwood post 00:03:38 * ehird runs for cover 00:09:04 wowwtfbbq 00:19:17 !bfjoust foobar >>>+>+[]<[--](-)*111(+)*100000 00:19:48 Score for jix_foobar: 0.0 00:20:11 what was the stepcount again? 00:20:18 100000 00:20:37 hum 00:27:34 ais523: Wolfram Research are hard at work adding pointless hardcoded gags to Wolfram|Alpha instead of improving it: http://www65.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Where+is+Waldo%3F 00:28:12 Are you Skynet? 00:28:52 Totally. 00:31:29 !bfjoust foobar >>>>>>>>(>[+[+[+[+[+[-[-[-[@-----]]]]]]]]])*20 00:31:36 Score for jix_foobar: 13.2 00:33:11 @? 00:46:23 -!- AnMaster has joined. 00:49:52 breakpoint in my debugger ^^ 00:50:34 ah 00:53:09 !bfjoust foobar >>>>>>>>(>[+[+[+[+[+[-[-[-[@-----]]]]]]]]])*30 00:53:16 Score for jix_foobar: 13.3 00:55:09 !bfjoust foobar (+>[<(+++++[->-<]>+++++[-])*30])*30 00:55:17 Score for jix_foobar: 7.0 00:56:39 -!- inurinternet has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 01:00:24 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:01:07 -!- ais523 has joined. 01:03:07 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 01:06:45 !bfjoust wiggle3 (>+>-)*4 (>([-)*5 [+++++ ([+)*20 [-] (])*20] (])*5)*30 01:06:54 Score for jix_wiggle3: 35.1 01:07:48 my goal is a short, readable version of wiggle that gets good results 01:08:59 "Why GIMP is Better than Adobe Photoshop" 01:09:00 RAGE 01:11:12 Why emacs is better than visual studio 01:11:39 -!- Corun has changed nick to Corun|away. 01:11:39 !bfjoust wiggle3 (>+>-)*4(>([-)*5[+++++([+)*8(+)*15[-](])*8](])*5+>([+)*5[-----([-)*8(-)*15[+](])*8](])*5-)*15 01:11:47 Score for jix_wiggle3: 35.6 01:13:26 -!- Corun|away has changed nick to Corun. 01:15:35 !bfjoust wiggle3b (>+>-)*4(>([-)*5[+++++([+)*8(+)*15[-.](])*8](])*5+>([+)*5[-----([-)*8(-)*15[+.](])*8](])*5-)*15 01:15:42 Score for jix_wiggle3b: 34.6 01:16:02 !bfjoust wiggle3b < 01:16:08 Score for jix_wiggle3b: 0.0 01:18:35 !bfjoust wiggle3b (>+>-)*4(>([-)*5[+++++([+)*8(+)*15[-.](])*8](])*5+>([+)*5[-----([-)*8(-)*15[+.](])*8](])*5-)*2(>([-)*5[+++++([+)*8(+)*15[-](])*8](])*5+>([+)*5[-----([-)*8(-)*15[+](])*8](])*5-)*15 01:18:43 Score for jix_wiggle3b: 26.9 01:19:55 !bfjoust wiggle3b < 01:20:01 Score for jix_wiggle3b: 0.0 01:30:36 jix: i don't suppose you could cut out that putting a dozen clones of the same thing on the hill bit? 01:31:21 unless you think it'd be fun if the rest of us did the same thing 01:33:11 all wiggle versions on the server are different 01:33:40 except the wiggle3b version which was a try to get better than wiggle3 and thus got removed as it wasn't 01:34:00 they'r esame enough to have the same name eh? 01:34:01 jix: same basic implementation = same name 01:34:24 well they are as similar as defend* 01:34:46 they share the same concept 01:35:02 there's 3 defends, one is majorly different from the other two.. but when i said that i saw like 5 wiggles on the hill 01:35:17 * nescience shrugs 01:35:18 nescience: there were 4 and one was already deleted by sucide 01:35:36 correction: 5 and one is now a suicide 01:35:41 jix__wiggle1.bfjoust 01:35:43 jix_wiggle1.bfjoust 01:35:46 jix_wiggle2.bfjoust 01:35:49 jix_wiggle3.bfjoust 01:35:50 jix_wiggle3b.bfjoust 01:35:53 oh didn't saw that jix__ one 01:35:58 that is left there by accident 01:36:00 -!- jix has changed nick to jix_. 01:36:05 !bfjoust wiggle1 < 01:36:11 Score for jix__wiggle1: 0.0 01:36:14 -!- jix_ has changed nick to jix. 01:36:15 if you want to try something else, just reuse the name.. that way you don't bump all the variety (?) off the hill 01:36:16 heh 01:36:27 jix: you could have just done !bfjoust _wiggle1 01:36:32 i mean, if you want to try and see if some code does better than som eother code 01:36:37 nescience: ais523 just told me a few hours ago to not do that.... 01:36:55 wat 01:36:59 but instead use a different name and then suicide or replace it 01:37:11 so i don't delete my good programs with bad testing programs 01:37:17 you can always put them back 01:37:28 but i'm talking variants, not new programs 01:37:57 yeah ais523's wrong; his suggestion would clutter the hill 01:38:05 well wiggle1,2,3 are different programs 01:38:08 if you are testing if having 3 +s does better than 1, it doesn't make sense to submit a bunch of warriors, thus knocking off stuff for no reason 01:38:10 he was angry jix lost space 4 or sth 01:38:15 ehird: I don't like good programs being deleted 01:38:22 if you have a program that does well, use another name for testing 01:38:25 ais523: even for 3 seconds? 01:38:27 that's ridiculous 01:38:33 and replace the good program even when one of the tests does better 01:38:59 well i for myself don't really care ^^ 01:39:20 so i'll just do _something_ now as someone will complain anyway 01:39:30 lol 02:02:11 AnMaster: btw you can do watercooling without a pump 02:02:14 w/ a reserator 02:02:29 can cool more things than heatpipes but less than pumpful watercooling 02:15:42 -!- Patashu has joined. 02:18:28 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/a2wMZwDJe/txt 02:18:37 Score for jix_wiggle3: 33.7 02:32:47 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/axaXCQAjY/txt 02:32:56 Score for jix_wiggle3: 35.2 02:37:48 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aP6cwk1x5/txt 02:37:56 Score for jix_wiggle3: 35.2 02:40:15 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aUeFcpPwdb/txt 02:40:23 Score for jix_wiggle3: 36.6 02:45:13 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aJDTST6eN/txt 02:45:20 Score for jix_wiggle3: 37.0 02:48:23 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aWq3CeYTo/txt 02:48:30 Score for jix_wiggle3: 42.3 02:53:10 wtf pasting readable code 02:53:10 ;p 02:53:15 you have one too many decoys 02:53:37 what is a decoy? 02:53:46 er, your "farm" 02:53:48 is one cell too big 02:53:53 you'll lose on field length 10 02:53:56 i do? 02:54:04 jix: a tape element near your flag set to a nonzero value in order to slow down the opponent 02:54:12 ah 02:54:19 near or far from your flag, it doesn't really matter 02:54:30 more effective near because there's less chance your opponent will already be past where you are putting it 02:54:38 anyway, 02:54:46 !........! 02:54:54 field length 10, 8 cells between your flag and their fla 02:54:54 g 02:54:59 so 9 is too far 02:55:02 yeah 03:03:47 -!- myndzi has quit (Remote closed the connection). 03:05:30 -!- inurinternet has joined. 03:05:30 -!- inurinternet has quit (Remote closed the connection). 03:05:46 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/ao0IKplNq/txt 03:05:50 -!- inurinternet has joined. 03:05:53 Score for jix_wiggle3: 52.8 03:05:54 might be overtuned to one opponent 03:05:57 or not ^^ 03:07:28 -!- myndzi has joined. 03:10:55 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/apkixpgyr/txt 03:11:04 Score for jix_wiggle3: 46.4 03:12:07 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 03:12:23 it's interesting what you can do in just bf 03:12:44 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/avON2JNox/txt 03:12:51 Score for jix_wiggle3: 52.6 03:13:17 -!- puzzlet has joined. 03:13:26 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 03:13:36 hmmm i'm getting close to the top with my original idea :) 03:13:41 (and even readable code) 03:16:47 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aCZN6xEspb/txt 03:16:56 Score for jix_wiggle3: 40.8 03:17:00 :/ 03:18:23 -!- puzzlet has joined. 03:18:29 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aiTnviDic/txt 03:18:38 Score for jix_wiggle3: 38.0 03:20:07 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/a50Zu4QqJ/txt 03:20:15 Score for jix_wiggle3: 52.6 03:21:48 Everyone knows that sentence fragments make perfectly good sentences. 03:22:02 Received bobcat instead of office chair. Would not buy again. 03:23:17 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aY58XLAaO/txt 03:23:26 Score for jix_wiggle3: 43.7 03:25:51 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/a1e2qbAt6/txt 03:26:01 Score for jix_wiggle3: 44.4 03:26:35 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aLm9yG2V6/txt 03:26:44 Score for jix_wiggle3: 42.0 03:29:58 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aUXmYc81t/txt 03:30:08 Score for jix_wiggle3: 41.9 03:30:48 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/agI369nDf/txt 03:30:58 Score for jix_wiggle3: 41.8 03:31:19 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/alPD4N8vv/txt 03:31:28 ! 03:31:29 Score for jix_wiggle3: 42.0 03:31:35 jix is walling again. 03:32:44 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/ar4WKzf4L/txt 03:32:53 Score for jix_wiggle3: 46.7 03:33:31 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aJfWVa4lp/txt 03:33:40 Score for jix_wiggle3: 44.0 03:33:45 Hmm. 03:34:03 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aiUNLWjC7/txt 03:34:09 !bfjoust evil http://normish.org/ihope/evil 03:34:12 Score for jix_wiggle3: 45.3 03:34:19 once you fix one another one breaks 03:34:53 http://normish.org/ihope/evil blocks. 03:35:04 Hopefully, EgoBot is not thereby dead. :-P 03:35:15 If it is, I can free it. 03:35:46 !help 03:35:46 help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . 03:35:52 Doesn't seem dead. 03:35:53 !ps 03:36:19 Wä wä wä. 03:36:35 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aZLIIPjWjb/txt 03:36:44 Score for jix_wiggle3: 41.8 03:37:52 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/anH9RMHwdb/txt 03:38:02 Score for jix_wiggle3: 45.2 03:39:03 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 03:45:14 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aNJawZgp3/txt 03:45:25 Score for jix_wiggle3: 46.2 03:47:29 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/a3Zw4eM4Z/txt 03:47:39 Score for jix_wiggle3: 47.2 03:51:17 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aSiaC5KB6/txt 03:51:27 Score for jix_wiggle3: 51.2 03:52:12 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/ak84GnaGeb/txt 03:52:22 Score for jix_wiggle3: 48.9 03:52:58 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aGqKUZTLnb/txt 03:53:08 Score for jix_wiggle3: 48.6 03:53:29 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/alRX7Ro1eb/txt 03:53:40 Score for jix_wiggle3: 48.2 03:54:14 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aG16QnTGY/txt 03:54:24 Score for jix_wiggle3: 49.5 03:55:09 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/adi0Sfe7c/txt 03:55:19 Score for jix_wiggle3: 42.1 03:55:58 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aEKIPPU7nb/txt 03:56:09 Score for jix_wiggle3: 50.9 03:56:46 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aTcBwdEocb/txt 03:56:57 Score for jix_wiggle3: 52.3 03:57:50 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aH8BwhaPdb/txt 03:58:00 Score for jix_wiggle3: 52.6 03:58:39 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aZ0bbURY6/txt 03:58:48 Score for jix_wiggle3: 57.2 03:58:54 -!- coppro has quit ("The only thing I know is that I know nothing"). 03:59:21 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/alx52eZ50/txt 03:59:31 Score for jix_wiggle3: 57.3 03:59:31 oo, 57.2 03:59:33 .3 :D 03:59:46 so close 04:00:10 experimental: 04:00:14 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/ajrNY51ag/txt 04:00:23 Score for jix_wiggle3: 56.7 04:00:45 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aRluO2Qhnb/txt 04:00:54 Score for jix_wiggle3: 53.1 04:01:33 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/av8GVZbvn/txt 04:01:43 Score for jix_wiggle3: 57.3 04:02:10 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/awkAoi7wj/txt 04:02:21 Score for jix_wiggle3: 57.3 04:02:26 hah 04:02:28 finally 04:03:26 now you can delete 1, 2, and 3b 04:03:31 unless they use a radically different strategy 04:03:42 which reminds me, I should delete defend6 04:03:46 !bfjoust defend6 < 04:03:52 Score for ais523_defend6: 0.0 04:04:09 thanks -_- 04:04:15 and i thought i could go to bed now ^^ 04:04:20 I'm leaving 7 there, anyway 04:05:08 !bfjoust wiggle3 http://nopaste.com/p/aORaPkjSt/txt 04:05:18 Score for jix_wiggle3: 59.4 04:05:58 ais523: this is why your thing about submitting duplicates sucks 04:06:06 myndzi: why? 04:06:12 because it messes up the scoreboard 04:06:13 ? 04:06:17 now there's 3, possibly to be 4 or 5 suicides on the hill 04:06:25 they'll disappear in due course 04:06:34 but there's no reason for them to be there 04:06:47 instead they alter the scores 04:06:59 I don't think having a suicide alters anything? 04:07:02 by favoring certain strategies (namely, fast attack) 04:07:13 Patashu: did you watch what just happened? 04:07:17 sorry, no 04:07:29 hmm 04:07:34 i tuned my program against defend 04:07:34 oh, I can see how it might have an effect 04:07:39 it gives the same number of wins to everyone 04:07:39 (there were three variants) 04:07:45 now were there are only two left... 04:07:48 i lost points of course 04:08:04 Patashu: excuse me, i was confusing myself :P 04:08:14 you are correct of course, it gives the same points to everyone 04:08:21 but it still shortens the playing field too 04:08:28 just submit filler 04:08:40 i'd rather have whatever warriors got knocked off back 04:08:48 hehe 04:08:49 !bfjoust lazy >(+)*5>(-)*5>(+)*5>(-)*5>(-)*5>(+)*5>(+)*5>(-)*5(>(+.)*129)*21[-]((-)*2048(+)*2048.)*2 04:08:49 submitting filler isn't much better than submitting < :P 04:08:56 Score for Patashu_lazy: 15.7 04:09:00 !bfjoust matador >+[]<(++-)*1000+(--+)*1000(>)*9(>[+][-])*21 04:09:01 !bfjoust waiter ((+--)*10000(-++)*10000)*2(+)*10000(-)*10000(+-)*10000(-+)*10000 04:09:13 lol. they were yours? :P 04:09:18 which ones? 04:09:23 the ones that got knocked off 04:09:25 Score for Patashu_matador: 8.9 04:09:26 Score for Patashu_waiter: 17.4 04:09:27 no 04:09:30 I'm just subbing them now 04:09:30 !bfjoust juggernaut >+>+>->->+>+>->-(>(-)*128.-.+)*29 04:09:37 Score for Patashu_juggernaut: 10.5 04:09:38 !bfjoust 2_3weave (>(+)*23>(-)*23)*1>+>->->+>+>-(>[(-)*20[+]]->[(+)*21[-]]+>+)*10 04:09:47 Score for Patashu_2_3weave: 17.1 04:10:13 anything's better than < 04:10:15 -!- Corun has quit ("Leaving..."). 04:10:25 i think that my 3 wiggles are different enough to have a place on the hill 04:10:45 i'll wiggle you you.. wiggly... thing! 04:10:46 :P 04:11:30 they use a different structure... the only thing they share is that they try to get a cell to zero fast by using nested loops going in different directions 04:11:46 oh interesting 04:11:47 :) 04:11:53 wiggle1 is just a very simple implementation of that 04:12:06 someone was doing that a few days ago, but you seem to have had much more success with it ;) 04:12:06 so it goes...+--+++----+++++ etc and keeps checking? 04:12:13 or something more optimized 04:12:23 i tried using nested loops for a similar reason, but it didn't work out 04:12:27 it does -[-[-[-[++++[+ ... 04:12:28 i thought it was the speed loss because of ]]]]]]] 04:12:30 yeah 04:12:33 I was thinking 04:12:37 check five values one way, check five the other, etc 04:12:38 would be faster 04:12:42 but it might have been the hash rng at that time 04:13:08 on the other hand, i guess it's faster than -.-.-.-. for example 04:13:13 in wiggle 2 i did exactly the same... but "elminated" the ]]]]] 04:13:15 in cases where all those aren't necessary 04:13:29 which turns it into a rather large program 04:13:31 i see plenty of them? 04:13:42 myndzi: but they will be evaluated much less 04:13:56 worst case every 4 cells i think 04:14:14 i was going to make one where i nested everything so it never executes ]]]]] at all ;p 04:14:24 myndzi: would have been to large for that 04:14:34 (my definition of too large) 04:14:42 -!- Patashu has quit ("Patashu/SteampunkX - MSN = Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM = Patashu0 , YIM = Patashu2 , Googletalk = Patashu0@gmail.com ."). 04:14:44 indeed, it was a pain in the ass 04:14:55 just take a look at that http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/in_egobot/jix_wiggle2.bfjoust 04:15:03 i did 04:15:26 and in wiggle3 i tried to do a tradeoff 04:15:36 a) i setup proper decoys 04:15:50 b) i combine the "wiggle" technique with the +++++[-] thing 04:15:52 (i should have let you take those 1/20th losses ;) 04:16:03 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 04:16:10 i noticed a lot of contstant fiddling 04:16:26 the way you did it allows you to be pretty highly tuned to the hill contents 04:16:32 c) i use [-.] [+.] to defeat defend 04:16:42 (but only for the 2nd and 3rd non zero cell) 04:17:00 jix: what about for the 4th? do you go back to [-] and [+]? 04:17:06 if so, that's what's defeating defend9 04:17:15 he does 04:17:16 + 04:17:18 -. 04:17:19 -. 04:17:20 +. 04:17:21 + 04:17:25 ah 04:17:35 myndzi: you got one additional -. there 04:17:43 * myndzi refreshes 04:17:45 well, in that case I could probably beat wiggle just by giving defend7 a few more decoys 04:17:59 and then he could beat defend by adding a few more lines too 04:18:03 lols 04:18:09 why don't you just add 30 decoys 04:18:10 :) 04:34:18 Mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao mao. 04:39:58 -!- pikhq has joined. 04:44:00 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 04:46:00 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 04:46:10 -!- ais523 has joined. 04:49:36 -!- pikhq has joined. 04:51:42 GregorR: i dont think mao is like buffalo, in that respect. 05:11:57 -!- psygnisfive has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 05:17:04 Score for kerlo__evil: 4.6 05:17:53 Oh. 05:17:56 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 05:18:10 Wow. 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XD 06:18:43 Yeah :) 07:19:27 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:12:54 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 08:20:18 -!- amca has joined. 08:39:59 -!- inurinternet has quit (Success). 08:56:39 AnMaster: http://lifthrasiir.jottit.com/exe i revised the spec. does it look reasonable? 09:00:45 -!- Slereah has joined. 09:53:28 -!- Patashu has joined. 09:56:40 lifthrasiir: Is it only possible to have sync io in such an OS, or would async io be also possible? 10:13:16 amca: have you looked at $05 xxxx 06..08 commands? 10:13:33 * amca looks 10:15:53 * GregorR-L puts forth again that any esolang-to-OS-through-stdout protocol should require or at least allow a \n at the end of every command sent. 10:16:24 Since some annoying interps (read: any interp that uses C stdio and doesn't fflush) will otherwise not send its data. 10:16:33 GregorR: oh, that's good idea. 10:17:14 I've mentioned that twice in previous (aborted or at least mostly aborted) such systems :P 10:17:29 :p 10:17:36 "# $05 xxxx 09 returns ??, which is true only if the handle is available for reading. On failure it returns error. # $05 xxxx 0a is same to $05 xxxx 09, but it's for writing." <- does that refer to checking if the io is ready-to-send/receive? 10:17:47 And in a week, somebody will ask why that's required, nobody will be able to answer, and it will disappear again, only for me to come back and explain it again. Oh, the cycle of annoying X-P 10:18:03 amca: something like select(2) system call. 10:18:16 Ah 10:18:21 tnx 10:18:31 (maybe i have to mention such equivalences) 10:18:44 GregorR-L: :p 10:18:58 lifthrasiir: Sorry, it's just happened before :P 10:19:05 GregorR-L, do you have any suggestions didn't make it into previous systems? 10:19:24 That's the only suggestion I ever had, I waited for them to mature a bit so I could poke around, and they never did. 10:19:38 Nobody can seem to get past the "idea" stage and to the "interpreter" stage for some reason. 10:20:13 that's bad. 10:20:26 but afaik PSOX has some implementation... 10:20:27 had* 10:21:38 lifthrasiir: Which part deals with signals, or h/ware interrupts/handlers? 10:22:44 amca: currently not, maybe added soon. 10:22:52 * lifthrasiir afk 10:35:19 :o 12:41:13 -!- clog has joined. 12:41:13 -!- clog has joined. 12:41:48 clog: We missed you! 12:44:08 * oerjan hugs clog 13:12:48 -!- tombom has joined. 13:13:01 -!- GregorR-L has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 13:34:27 From the spam directory: "Subject: Fortune cookies help cops naab suspect" 13:35:06 * oerjan has a naaging doubt about the spelling there 13:35:15 heh 13:43:02 lifthrasiir, the long integer format seems screwy 13:43:19 but interesting 13:49:45 rofl (but old) http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30832?utm_source=onion_rss_daily 14:10:48 -!- tombom has quit ("Peace and Protection 4.22.2"). 14:14:44 -!- Corun has joined. 15:34:31 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 15:50:36 -!- Slereah has quit ("Leaving"). 15:59:51 -!- amca has quit ("the teacher I mean"). 16:14:55 -!- impomatic has joined. 16:15:41 -!- Slereah has joined. 16:24:38 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 16:35:50 -!- Corun has changed nick to Corun|away. 17:05:40 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 17:09:56 -!- M0ny has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 17:13:59 -!- Corun|away has changed nick to Corun. 17:14:44 I'm still thinking about a good I/O model for Migol. I want something elegant that jumps to the I/O subroutine, executes the I/O, modifies the memory and jumps back to the main program, without messing up the language. 17:16:09 -!- Patashu has quit ("Patashu/SteampunkX - MSN = Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM = Patashu0 , YIM = Patashu2 , Googletalk = Patashu0@gmail.com ."). 17:19:53 -!- Gracenotes has quit ("Leaving"). 17:21:26 hm, what about sections, similar to actual assembly languages? 17:23:29 -!- Judofyr has joined. 17:23:30 tetha: Sections? 17:25:16 MigoMipo: define a section as a sequence of statements, and entering a statement as setting the program counter to the first element in a section 17:25:46 MigoMipo: that way, you could have interrupt-based IO by simply executing the IO-section whenever the input-interrupt occurs (besides executing the code-section by default) 17:26:32 this would also generalize nicely to all kinds of interrupts :) 17:28:02 tetha: Sounds interesting, can it be used as an interface to for example C libraries? Jumping to an another Migol code section seems pointless. 17:29:33 MigoMipo: I think so. 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You don't have monotype IRC? 20:33:14 Monospaced, rather. 20:33:19 That's... Wow. 20:33:33 No, it seems not 20:34:02 well it's probably not _that_ important 20:37:41 -!- impomatic has quit ("connection terminated by profanity filter"). 20:40:51 oerjan, 1400x1050 20:41:25 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:41:38 -!- Corun has changed nick to Corun|away. 20:41:57 oerjan, instead of 1280x1024 on TFT with 1400x1050 as native res! 20:42:03 (which seriously sucked) 20:44:53 why were you using that again? 20:45:34 Argh, LCDs not being run at native resolution! 20:46:10 usually either the graphics or the monitor is able to do letterboxing 20:46:55 Monitors don't letterbox. Evil, isn't it? 20:55:15 -!- Corun|away has changed nick to Corun. 21:11:45 -!- Corun has changed nick to Corun|away. 21:14:01 -!- M0ny has quit ("Read error: 182 (Connection reset by beer)"). 21:44:05 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 21:47:34 -!- Judofyr has joined. 21:52:25 11:03 GregorR-L: Since apparently the master logging bots are prone to deadeadead. 21:52:27 clog is rock-solid 21:52:37 tunes.org is not 21:52:57 19:33 pikhq: impomatic: ... You don't have monotype IRC? 21:52:57 19:33 pikhq: Monospaced, rather. 21:52:58 19:33 pikhq: That's... Wow. 21:53:00 nor I 21:53:39 i wrote two silly things today: 21:53:48 -!- MigoMipo has quit ("QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server"). 21:54:06 http://pastie.org/499629.txt?key=turhqwrztzeyugdoq3wzq 21:54:07 http://pastie.org/499631.txt?key=cosj6kske51habowtnh5qa 21:54:20 both have a rather complex backstory only comprehensible if your mind is identical to mine. 21:54:55