< 1243641695 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ere, now I have a plugin so all my text is properly ornified. < 1243641718 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice I just have to be sure to type þat manually. < 1243641722 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now at nobody can understand me, I'm trying to maximize e ''s in is sentence. < 1243641735 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately for me, þe compose key makes it raþer easy. < 1243641742 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :þe w00ts. < 1243641755 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as easy as just auto-replace :P < 1243641760 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Nice/Nice;/ < 1243641783 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. However, it's not hard to reach down and hit þe Windows key from time to time. < 1243641821 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1243641851 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þy þorniness is amazing. Doest þou concur? < 1243641863 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye. < 1243641870 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have a lip) < 1243641877 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Yeþ*? < 1243641884 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Þat explains it, þen. < 1243641906 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can you do.. ðis? < 1243641907 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at's ree key presses for you, right? And one is awkward. < 1243641920 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah. < 1243641927 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUCKS TO BE THOU < 1243641930 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops :P < 1243641933 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't replace TH :P < 1243641935 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only :P < 1243641939 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, only T h < 1243641950 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could stick compose on a somewhat more convenient key. Like, oh, I dunno. Shift key? Backspace? < 1243641983 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like I use backspace much; þere's Emacs combos for þat. < 1243642003 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUCKS TO BE OU < 1243642007 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ere we go. < 1243642008 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixt. < 1243642033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þy moþer suckeþ! < 1243642058 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ou art paetic ... e. < 1243642095 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the passenger gets in trouble! D:þ < 1243642113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Vi anakŭ. < 1243642115 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1243642117 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Vi anakaŭ. < 1243642118 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, ine moer smelle as yonder jackass. < 1243642144 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thine father smelt of elderberries? < 1243642151 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: But þy moþer was a hamster and þy faþer smelt of elderberries. < 1243642155 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn < 1243642158 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1243642174 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Use þine when one would use "mine" and þy when one would use "my". < 1243642182 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ere just aren't enough ''s. < 1243642186 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, alright < 1243642220 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y elderberries art ine. < 1243642316 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þat þey are. < 1243642363 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet, m'þinkest þat þy þoughts are limitéd to þe berries of elder. Doest þou þink of oþer þings? < 1243642407 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hier and ier. < 1243642421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:19 pikhq: Yes, Unicode will probably soon support a script that has been used for exactly one known document. ← voynich? < 1243642426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1243642426 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, indeed. An interesting statement of þine. < 1243642430 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yeþ. < 1243642446 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, where's my orn porn? < 1243642455 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(liþpþ are contagiouþ) < 1243642457 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thorn porn? < 1243642459 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch < 1243642481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Þe letter þorn. < 1243642487 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule irty-four. < 1243642527 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1243642543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :voynich in unicode would be nice < 1243642551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also klingon; the Bible and hamlet have been published in it iirc < 1243642582 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 'Twould. < 1243642584 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can one make a thorn rotated 90°, lying on it's round part, with unicode? < 1243642602 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þere's also þe Tragedy of Romeo and Juliet, IIRC. < 1243642617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not as if unicode's filling up < 1243642635 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should use unicode codepoints as IP addresses. < 1243642648 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: IPv6. < 1243642701 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Never mind. Unicode is a 32-bit encoding. < 1243642773 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean irty-two :P < 1243642792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ipv6 is 128 isn't it < 1243642797 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye. < 1243642827 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1243642831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also unicode uses slightly less than 32 bits < 1243642841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd have to use a bit over 4 chars < 1243642868 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPv4 would be represented by two Unicode chars? (u0000 to uFFFF) < 1243642883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: unicode assigns 0-1114111 < 1243642886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32-bit is 4294967296 < 1243642901 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :††† < 1243642913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 21-bit is the smallest that can hold unicode < 1243642929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(=0x200000) < 1243642959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so you need ~6.095 unicode characters to represent an ipv6 address < 1243642961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ 7 < 1243642973 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust allornothing >>>>>>>>>>>(>(-)*127-.-.)*21 < 1243642984 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nescience_allornothing: 41.0 < 1243642991 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda amusing < 1243642997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nescience: how's that one work < 1243643005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks sort of like i_keelst_thou < 1243643011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it thoust, I forget < 1243643021 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, i didn't read that one < 1243643030 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it skips one or two possible places for speed < 1243643037 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then decs 127, 128, 129 with pauses and moves to the next < 1243643062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nescience: i_keelst_thou is basically set up some decoys, then 21 times, (-)*128, [-], next cell < 1243643071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it advances really slowly, and avoids loopin < 1243643071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1243643077 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no loop in this one < 1243643080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1243643082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just reminded me of it < 1243643089 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust allornothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>(>(-)*127-.-.)*21 < 1243643099 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :start at 16 < 1243643100 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nescience_allornothing: 52.6 < 1243643102 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha. < 1243643125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"17th Century Damascus Blades Found to Contain Carbon Nanotubes" < 1243643128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit, those guys were high-tech. < 1243643166 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust allornothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>(>(-)*127-.-.(>(+)*127-.-.)*11 < 1243643176 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nescience_allornothing: 0.0 < 1243643180 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1243643181 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently noing :P < 1243643184 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust allornothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>(>(-)*127-.-.>(+)*127-.-.)*11 < 1243643185 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1243643190 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copied one too many chars < 1243643194 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why it's going slow < 1243643195 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nescience_allornothing: 26.3 < 1243643195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust i_keelst_thou_allornothing (>)*16((-)*128.->(+)*128.+>)*11 < 1243643200 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more hill crziness? < 1243643203 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust allornothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>(>(-)*127-.-.)*21 < 1243643206 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for ehird_i_keelst_thou_allornothing: 26.9 < 1243643208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1243643214 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nescience_allornothing: 51.4 < 1243643229 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust allornothing >>(+)*19>(-)*19>>>>>>>>>>>(>(-)*127-.-.)*21 < 1243643240 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nescience_allornothing: 58.7 < 1243643260 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol it beats my other two < 1243643264 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making them lower on the hill :\ < 1243643324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got quite far with my interp today < 1243643339 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust pooper_scooper (>(-)*20>(+)*20)*5[>(-)*100[-].+] < 1243643342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just needs a bit of fixing, some additional stuff and I can hack up a contest infrastructure < 1243643350 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for GregorR-L_pooper_scooper: 27.1 < 1243643354 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foo :( < 1243643378 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust allornothing ->>(+)*19>(-)*19>>>>>>>>>>>(>(-)*127-.-.)*21 < 1243643381 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust pooper_scooper (>(-)*20>(+)*20)*5[>[-].+] < 1243643395 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: cool < 1243643400 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for GregorR-L_pooper_scooper: 46.0 < 1243643400 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nescience_allornothing: 47.4 < 1243643408 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust allornothing >>(+)*19>(-)*19>>>>>>>>>>>(>(-)*127-.-.)*21 < 1243643409 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "contest infrastructure" in is context. < 1243643418 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nescience_allornothing: 55.7 < 1243643432 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wants to do more than return w/l/t < 1243643455 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust pooper_scooper (>->+)*5[>[-].+] < 1243643467 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for GregorR-L_pooper_scooper: 34.3 < 1243643470 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah < 1243643482 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust pooper_scooper (>(-)*32>(+)*32)*5[>[-].+] < 1243643485 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, my vote is for something like wins = 5 points, ties = 2 or 3 points, loss = 0 points < 1243643492 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for GregorR-L_pooper_scooper: 50.4 < 1243643494 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's have the program that wins the most on top < 1243643498 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243643506 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Define "contest infrastructure" in þis context. <--- þ <-- ? < 1243643511 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"th" < 1243643518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... ok < 1243643519 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i bet it's not hard and soft th both? < 1243643520 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is EVERYBODY against my winning-against-important-programs-is-better style? < 1243643531 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nescience: Yes, it is. < 1243643538 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nescience: Not in Icelandic, but is is English. < 1243643550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, that sounds like a good idea! < 1243643586 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at's how it works! >_< < 1243643597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pat's < 1243643603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is she? < 1243643604 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And everybody complains about it. < 1243643611 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at was an upper-case :P < 1243643617 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As was at. < 1243643633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, why... < 1243643643 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've decided at e letter orn needs to come back. < 1243643661 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, therhaths this isn't a very useful way to write < 1243643674 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always thought that þ is icelandic th < 1243643678 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only because you're not used to e letter orn :P < 1243643690 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: It is. But it was in English until about 200 years ago. < 1243643697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, what has porn got to do with it? < 1243643701 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at's a totally wrong estimate :P < 1243643724 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see < 1243643744 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like about 400-500 years. < 1243643755 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, it's e most recent letter e English alphabet lost. < 1243643759 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm fighting to get it back! :P < 1243643765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, the difference is really small in this font. At this reading distance < 1243643774 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shakespeare probably used it, but þat's about as recent as it gets. < 1243643775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm just going to read it as p < 1243643777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or P < 1243643778 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: at's perhaps why it's gone :P < 1243643783 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No way Shakespeare used it. < 1243643785 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No fekking way. < 1243643808 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: 400-500 years? It's possible. < 1243643825 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :His work is about as late as it's even possible to guess, þough. < 1243643829 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1243643832 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even possible. < 1243643839 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poible :P < 1243643869 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I do have a relative in Minneapolis called Pat. Quite a far off relative. < 1243643881 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, there's anoþer letter þat English lost more recently. < 1243643883 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is starting to think about making SADOL based language with less minimal syntax < 1243643892 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, which one? < 1243643902 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Art þou familiar wiþ þe long S? < 1243643902 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I was actually asking is: Is everybody against my winning-against-important-enemies-gains-you-more-points ranking system? < 1243643914 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombgirl < 1243643917 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH, I need to add at! < 1243643918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, fish? < 1243643922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1243643924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f-ish < 1243643927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not "fish" < 1243643930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1243643952 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, is it that one? < 1243643975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Anyway, I was actually asking þis: Is everybody against my winning-against-important-enemies-gains-you-more-points ranking system? <-- yes and no < 1243643981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest: < 1243643987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 points for loosing < 1243643993 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yuh. < 1243643993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 for draw < 1243643996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 for winning < 1243644004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:32 GregorR-L: Is EVERYBODY against my winning-against-important-programs-is-better style? ← I support it < 1243644015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, what do you think about this simple one? < 1243644023 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: at's not "yes and no", at's firmly against my system :P < 1243644028 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Long s is awesome. :) < 1243644033 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, define IMPORTANT program < 1243644034 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: at's how e "points" system works, but e "score" system is more complicated. < 1243644044 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: A program which itself has beat a lot of programs. < 1243644056 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/SCORES < 1243644058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, what exact values used for it < 1243644105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This gives the scores a range of 0-100 through convoluted math I choose not to go in to." <-- is that the relevant bit < 1243644111 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1243644114 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at's totally irrelevant. < 1243644122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I want to know the exact forumla for the "is important" < 1243644128 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ere. < 1243644142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes a Þ -> Th filter... < 1243644146 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e base score is e important part, e score is just multiplied up to put it in a "human" range. < 1243644156 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: at'll counter my t h -> filter :P < 1243644168 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: i'm not complaining, it works ok < 1243644171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, that was the intention < 1243644171 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I þought þou wert going to use long S? < 1243644180 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think that i prefer the other way is all < 1243644185 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hint: if it's not þe final s, use it. ;) < 1243644200 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ſ FTW. < 1243644202 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, I'm trying to write at as a sed expression :P < 1243644203 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i voiced it because ehird was talking about (possibly?) redoing the tournament structure < 1243644209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am doing it < 1243644214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm open to suggestions < 1243644232 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ink someing in between would probably be better, but I don't ink my system is bad :P < 1243644260 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet! I juſt found out what þe compoſe combination for it is. :) < 1243644274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1243644282 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Þere is not a capital long S) < 1243644282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think your system is pretty good, GregorR-L, but instead of winning against points, it should be win against score. Yes, this is an infinite regress, but if you can solve that it'll probably end up fairer. < 1243644286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AltGr-S maybe? < 1243644287 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Compose f s < 1243644289 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what it amounts to is, < 1243644296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have some sort of base case. < 1243644297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what is "compose" < 1243644299 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two equally good programs can score widely differently < 1243644301 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I desperately want to solve at, I haven't found a fixed point. < 1243644302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, is it "altgr"? < 1243644303 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on how they do against each other < 1243644306 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't think that is desirable < 1243644309 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1243644313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I'll toy with stuff when I make my infrastructure ~tomorrow. < 1243644318 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Altgr is someþing else entirely. < 1243644319 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good idea to build a lang that allows to define custom infix operators just like functions ? < 1243644320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, where do I find the compose key then..... < 1243644321 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1243644337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Altgr is ſomeþing elſe entirely. < 1243644340 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.............. < 1243644341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Your space cadet keyboard. < 1243644349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, assume I don't have one < 1243644352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess pikhq does < 1243644354 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Moſt keyboards don't have one. < 1243644356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Your life is terrible. Kill yourself. < 1243644359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, your have one? < 1243644366 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þiſ iſ a test. < 1243644370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm not as sensitive as you < 1243644371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He may have another kb with a compose key. < 1243644371 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, whoopſ. < 1243644373 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bound þe Windows key to compoſe. < 1243644375 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly e opposite of correct. < 1243644377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using a space cadet keyboard would be hell. < 1243644380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Space-cadet.jpg < 1243644383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why hell < 1243644385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tons of useless keys and no F-keys, etc. < 1243644400 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keycode 133 = Multi_key Multi_key Multi_key Multi_key Multi_key Multi_key < 1243644403 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keycode 134 = Multi_key Multi_key Multi_key Multi_key Multi_key Multi_key < 1243644405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: w/ a conventional OS, I mean. < 1243644405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I don't use F-keys often < 1243644407 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þis is a teſt. < 1243644410 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect :) < 1243644414 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in love with that keyboard < 1243644415 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ xmodmap ſcript. < 1243644416 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody elſe want my annoying plugin? < 1243644424 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I'd love it. < 1243644425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perfect :) <-- Therfect? < 1243644432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: still, those greek things, "over strike", a bloody "help" key < 1243644433 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaſter: X-D < 1243644437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell the difference in this font < 1243644438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1243644438 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck, it even has turnstiles < 1243644439 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's in Perl :( < 1243644441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't be useful for linux etc < 1243644444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, and that doesn't highlight me < 1243644446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so FAIL < 1243644450 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: (Þe Pyþon infraſtructure ſeems to have problems and cauſe infinite recurſions) < 1243644450 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Space-cadet.jpg << wtf, i want one < 1243644452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure he cares < 1243644459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: just buy a used lisp machine < 1243644467 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean a liſp machine. < 1243644469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, tell me when you fixed so it doesn't mess up highlighting < 1243644469 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243644469 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's for lisp < 1243644470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes more noise than an airplane and is a billion times slower than one, and also expensive < 1243644474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but damn is it lovely. < 1243644475 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it for irſsi? < 1243644478 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i expected < 1243644478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: i don't have one) < 1243644480 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: xchat < 1243644488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: yeah, that's why () are unshifted < 1243644490 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curſes. < 1243644490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and [] are shifted < 1243644497 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congreſs < 1243644505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did that change on this os x box before upgrading < 1243644506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was quite nice < 1243644511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use () a lot more than [], personally < 1243644523 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, one could juſt as well type 'irßi'. :p < 1243644526 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wise < 1243644536 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Wrong language ;) < 1243644542 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know. < 1243644543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each of these might, in addition, be typed with any combination of the "control", "meta", "hyper", and "super" keys. On this keyboard, it is possible to type over 8,000 different characters. This allowed the user to type very complicated mathematical text, and also to have thousands of single-character commands at their disposal. Many users were actually willing to memorise the command meanings of that many characters if it reduced typing time (this atti < 1243644546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tude shaped the interface of Emacs). [2] Other users, however, thought that so many bucky bits was overkill, and objected to this design on the grounds that such a keyboard can require three or four hands[1] to operate. < 1243644550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8,000 key combinations < 1243644558 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ſo, got a fixed point ſolution? < 1243644565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I'm thunkin' < 1243644583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : nooga: yeah, that's why () are unshifted and [] are shifted <-- What layout has [] unshifted!? < 1243644591 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ſuck þoo < 1243644594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: US/UK QWERTY/DVORAK. < 1243644596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Dvorak < 1243644597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one has () shifted and [] altgred < 1243644603 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1243644606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but even in English () is more common than []! < 1243644616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shifted [] = {}. () are on 9 and 0. < 1243644618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yep, it's stupidus maximus. < 1243644638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7890 Shift: /()= AltGr: {[]} < 1243644653 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[01:50:09] [...] () are on 9 and 0. < 1243644667 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's hellish when games/stuff use the US/UK layout < 1243644676 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) gets turned to ( < 1243644687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, in games you can just remap keys usually < 1243644699 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but if one use standard settings < 1243644710 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try to write a happy smiley, and it's sad < 1243644716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1243644721 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, err? < 1243644725 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah? < 1243644732 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our shift+9 = ) < 1243644732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, how would it be sad < 1243644738 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK shift+9 = ( < 1243644742 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) gets :( < 1243644747 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( is sad, as far as I know? < 1243644748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :input would be read using current layout right? < 1243644760 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :US ſhift+9 = ( too < 1243644764 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in... it uses whatever OS uses < 1243644772 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, ſh ſhouldn't have a long s, ſhould it. < 1243644774 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've had stuff which uses US/UK layouts < 1243644797 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And overrides system settings, I guess < 1243644810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crappy programming < 1243644820 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :US shift+9 = ( too < 1243644829 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, "too"? < 1243644831 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :∂umb < 1243644843 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like UK < 1243644843 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, just like the UK layout < 1243644844 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to read a string you should use the OS layout. < 1243644845 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1243644848 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: 'ſh' ſhould have þe long s. However, ſs ſhould not. < 1243644861 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Þe conſtitution ſays oþerwiſe. < 1243644864 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about ∂ ? < 1243644868 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are using it for action keys or whatever in a game then it might not work to do so < 1243644876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather you want to read it based on position < 1243644891 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Erm. Þe ſecond 's' ſhouldn't be long in þat ſituation. < 1243644899 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah < 1243644901 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ü < 1243644917 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: ð, þou meanſt? < 1243644937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess I HAVE to write that reverse-filter now < 1243644943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since this is unreadable in this font size < 1243644944 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ah, yes < 1243644947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you both < 1243644951 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1243644956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:53 AnMaster: crappy programming < 1243644961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a game layout, the layout is important < 1243644963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the bound letters < 1243644967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, read all < 1243644968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they just reused the code for the chat system, I'd assume < 1243644970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEFORE < 1243644970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1243644972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comment < 1243644977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No. < 1243644986 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Þou ſhould uſe a better font, meþinks. < 1243644988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes they shouldn't reuse it for chat system idiot < 1243644996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You're really angerable. It's funny. < 1243644997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Dejavu Sans Mono 9 pt < 1243645017 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a coincidence. Þat'ſ what I'm uſing. < 1243645048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: anmaster's display is like 4dpi < 1243645061 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Þinko on “Þat's”. < 1243645078 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Þat's lamer þan fuck. < 1243645087 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 86 dpi iirc < 1243645091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Just like AnMaster! < 1243645095 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I þink I'm done wiþ all my Engliſh language changes. < 1243645096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU < 1243645097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UUUUUUUUUU < 1243645098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UUUUURN. < 1243645111 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, so you will revert to normal? < 1243645130 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Yeah, I þink you've got it all coveréd. < 1243645136 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I alſo added æ and œ < 1243645142 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i Þink Þat Þiſ whole ſtyle haſ a future < 1243645145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1243645153 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1243645157 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Improper uſe of ſ < 1243645168 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: You're doing it wrong. < 1243645204 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I certainly þink þis has a future. If only in þis chatroom. < 1243645204 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what'ſ Þe rule? < 1243645215 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Only when not at e end of e word. < 1243645227 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Not at the end of a word, not after a ſ. < 1243645250 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and not before an f. < 1243645257 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ſucks ? < 1243645280 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, one types "ſatisfaction", not "ſatiſfaction". < 1243645300 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, there's not a capital long s. < 1243645309 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gööd < 1243645310 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, so þ => th ſ => s ? < 1243645317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other changes did you make < 1243645330 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ae = æ, oe = œ. < 1243645349 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encyclopædia < 1243645349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the upper case versions < 1243645351 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I juſt added þe more abſurd changes of þy and þys :P < 1243645357 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr, ſcrewed þat up. < 1243645363 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Æ Œ ? < 1243645381 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y face is ugly! < 1243645383 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243645385 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works! < 1243645386 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahahahaha < 1243645398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does mine! :) < 1243645402 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a filter? < 1243645406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Thy face is ugly!" < 1243645409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1243645409 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1243645420 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: In early Engliſh typography, ss = ß. < 1243645425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could add þat. ;) < 1243645426 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ſRſLY? < 1243645427 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster agrees to the statement? < 1243645440 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1243645442 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :piß < 1243645443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, which statement < 1243645449 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[02:03:26] " Thy face is ugly!" < 1243645449 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[02:03:29] yes! < 1243645449 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I don't ſee þat anywhere on þis Wikipedia page. < 1243645451 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it would be "In Congreß Aßembled." < 1243645456 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, no < 1243645460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, ^ < 1243645461 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Except it iſn't. < 1243645466 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1243645468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was "yes" as in "yes it works" < 1243645473 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured < 1243645473 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Blog/Images/TrueCopie_1585_AII.jpg < 1243645479 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Early*. ;) < 1243645494 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aß < 1243645523 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, ere it is. < 1243645527 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And þat's clearly Engliſh. < 1243645552 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early modern, certainly, but definitely þe ſame language. < 1243645605 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, no more need to learn german für mich~ < 1243645622 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I still like the language < 1243645730 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://paſtebin.ca/1440365 < 1243645766 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1243645771 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://paſtebin.ca/1440365 < 1243645776 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh ohs :P < 1243645778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO < 1243645779 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/1440365 < 1243645782 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it :P < 1243645784 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1243645787 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy... < 1243645809 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor. When I copied the firſt one into my browſer, it converted ſ into s. < 1243645818 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ſweet :P < 1243645838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, ſtop þe replacement for capital S. < 1243645845 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þat ſhould always be S. < 1243645858 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORLY? < 1243645879 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1243645883 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly ough. < 1243645897 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time for me to ſleep < 1243645905 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1243645910 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. It's juſt þat þere's not a long capital S. < 1243645937 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, but þey ſhouldn't have to ſhare a capital wiþ 's' :P < 1243645966 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. :) < 1243646005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: It seems to me like you could go further. < 1243646019 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It ſeems to me like you could þink of a fixed point algoriþm for þe hill :P < 1243646024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1243646025 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poßible. < 1243646037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: In that image you linked, the s-as-wavy-f-like-thing is there. < 1243646041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also there are some nicks on top of e and o. < 1243646047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In what looks like "aprrhelfio") < 1243646050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, what pikhq linked. < 1243646073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I linkéd þat. < 1243646079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, what pikhq linked.← < 1243646085 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Idonno what at is. < 1243646088 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þose are ſome older ligatures þat you're ſeeing. < 1243646112 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX can output þat wiþ þe right options. < 1243646138 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But þere is no Unicode characters it ſeems. < 1243646176 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; þat's juſt a typeſetting þing, you ſee. < 1243646186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'spretty, though < 1243646188 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shore ſhore < 1243646387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I made some adjustments < 1243646390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please speak < 1243646391 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1243646394 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1243646396 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þis is me ſpeaking. < 1243646400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1243646403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't work < 1243646405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any more < 1243646408 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wins! < 1243646413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it works again < 1243646456 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þis is me ſpeaking. < 1243646579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, again please < 1243646587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is still slightly buggy < 1243646605 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well? < 1243646665 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þis is me ſpeaking. < 1243646670 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, was elſewhere. < 1243646676 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But en, SO'S Y FACE. < 1243646680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243646683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost < 1243646757 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't this just s/Þ/Th/g ; s/þ/th/g ; s/ſ/s/g ? < 1243646775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is.. the issue was hooking in properly with irc client < 1243646805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can't do anything about your replace being lossy < 1243646816 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there was a "ThY" yes < 1243647036 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun|away < 1243647038 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1243647048 0 :Corun|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun < 1243647113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Green? < 1243647313 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ...? < 1243647327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: It is merely a question, bitch. < 1243647356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, there? < 1243647357 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: " people come to visit granny weatherwax?' < 1243647365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. that is broken... < 1243647379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate you GregorR for this extra work I had to do < 1243647393 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1243647406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, there? < 1243647407 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the correction appeared to pass unnoticed. < 1243647433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, .. < 1243647434 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ' ten days ago. can't remember where.' lu-tze scanned the sky. < 1243647481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ok? < 1243647481 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ' fine,' said mrs ogg cheerfully. ' and wouldn't it be nice if you didn't do somewhere else. it's a strong nail," said the lecturer in recent < 1243647491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. Now it works for every other channel.... < 1243647522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (...)S < 1243647523 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1243647554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :artificial < 1243647555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how do you compare strings in python btw... I'm trying to do this in the bouncer... < 1243647560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: == < 1243647569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then that wasn't the issue... < 1243647583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (...)S < 1243647584 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1243647594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah found it... < 1243647624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (two words )S < 1243647624 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two words < 1243647627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1243647678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (two wordsÞ Þ )S < 1243647678 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two wordsÞ Þ < 1243647735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (two wordsÞ Þ )S < 1243647736 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two wordsÞ Þ < 1243647742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 9: ordinal not in range(128) < 1243647743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1243647747 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, any idea? < 1243647755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: What it says. < 1243647777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so how do I operate on unicode in python < 1243647789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using the unicode type and the functions designed for it. < 1243647791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the docs < 1243647794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :print for debugging shows 'two words\xc3\x9e \xc3\x9e' < 1243647804 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what I get < 1243647811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243647813 0 :goonx!n=goonx@62.87.208.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243647821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder where you can get a laptop chassis. < 1243647822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I guess I have to cast it to unicode then... < 1243647823 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, anyone good in brainfuck? < 1243647828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "cast"? No. < 1243647832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then what < 1243647834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You have to handle encodings. < 1243647849 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cos I have just a theory question < 1243647856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, print message shows 'two words\xc3\x9e \xc3\x9e' < 1243647864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Read. < 1243647864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The. < 1243647866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Documentation. < 1243647868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: oh < 1243647869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1243647872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, which part. it is very huge < 1243647881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Read the table of contents, goddamn. < 1243647882 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to write simply malware code in BF? < 1243647889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: ............................ What? < 1243647891 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha < 1243647891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pikhq) < 1243647892 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in other esoteric languages? < 1243647897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: define malware < 1243647903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why on earth do you want to do this < 1243647905 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not generally, þey moſtly have no acceſs to any OS ſervices. < 1243647944 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm like analyzing malware code, so i ask if that code could be written in esoteric languages < 1243647961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: By "analyzing malware code", you mean "I want to give BF malware to someone" < 1243647966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't deny it. < 1243647971 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1243647977 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1243647978 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun|away < 1243647995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: Okay then, "intrepid malware research specialist" < 1243647998 0 :Jake_!n=chatzill@123.200.247.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243648001 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i "hunt" for some malwares, download it on my P, and watch how the are running < 1243648018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: That involves neither analyzing nor code. < 1243648026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just theater. < 1243648028 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like using disassemblers, debugger, hexeditors, etc < 1243648036 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (two wordsÞ Þ )S < 1243648036 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two wordsÞ Þ < 1243648036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You din't say that. < 1243648039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1243648052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (two wordsÞ Þ )S < 1243648052 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two wordsÞ Þ < 1243648062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (two wordsÞ Þ )S < 1243648063 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two wordsÞ Þ < 1243648064 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, could you paraphrase? < 1243648072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: ? < 1243648096 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That involves neither analyzing nor code." and "That's just theater.", could you rewrite that sencente using another words? < 1243648104 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i'm not a native speaker < 1243648126 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (two wordsÞ Þ )S < 1243648127 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two wordsÞ Þ < 1243648157 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (two wordsÞ Þ )S < 1243648158 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two wordsÞ Þ < 1243648163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect < 1243648168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: First one was a reply to [[01:46 goonx: sometimes i "hunt" for some malwares, download it on my P, and watch how the are running ]], saying that what you said doesn't actually mean analyzing and doesn't involve code. "That's just theater" meant: that's just watching it for entertainment. But then you clarified, mentioning disassemblers and debuggers, so I said "you didn't say that". (din't being a variation on didn't for no apparent reson) < 1243648171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reason < 1243648187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now just to remove the debug output < 1243648234 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, but after I see how they're running, I could see, which programming language was used to write them < 1243648248 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in most of cases it was ASM, C, C++, Delphi, etc < 1243648257 0 :Corun|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun < 1243648260 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you recognize fortran? < 1243648263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: Well, in Brainfuck, the most interaction with the non-brainfuck systems you can do is inputting one character and outputting one character (character = letter, symbol etc) < 1243648270 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have nebver found esoteric language (or my analyzing skills are too low to check that) < 1243648279 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, moſt eſolangs have no acceſs to OS features, and even if þey did nobody would uſe þem for malware :P < 1243648280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: Esolangs are generally interpreted, not compiled. < 1243648290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What GregorR-L said (although it may be hard to read with his odd letters.) < 1243648296 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: esolangs aren't quite useful for such tasks < 1243648301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ſ = s, þ = th) < 1243648315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: remember when we talked about high-DPI displays? < 1243648322 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :......................... ¿Malware? In Brainfuck? < 1243648327 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yes? < 1243648332 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just asked about it, 'cos it was something like a curiosity for me ;) < 1243648339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Testing: th:þ Th:Þ s:ſ ae:æ Ae:Æ oe:œ Oe:Œ)S < 1243648339 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Testing: th:þ Th:Þ s:ſ ae:æ Ae:Æ oe:œ Oe:Œ < 1243648344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1243648344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I may have occasion to actually buy a >150DPI display quite soon as part of a project. < 1243648346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect match < 1243648349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Testing: th:th Th:Th s:s ae:ae Ae:Ae oe:oe Oe:Oe < 1243648372 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: It's kinda impoſsible, aſide from PSOX. < 1243648376 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þere are very few 'æ's in Engliſh anyway. < 1243648376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, so say that line again. Lets see if it works for you too < 1243648378 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Noice. < 1243648380 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1243648395 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :þ:þ Þ:Þ s:ſs æ:æ Æ:Æ œ:œ Œ:Œ < 1243648403 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Þere are in Britiſh Engliſh. < 1243648409 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: True. < 1243648410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Specifically, around, say, a 10" display @ 1280x1024. (= 163dpi, 0.155mm dot pitch) < 1243648411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, odd... why wasn't eſolangs translated when you said it < 1243648414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very odd < 1243648417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: For a "homebrew netbook" project. < 1243648421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: hard/soft s? < 1243648424 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so thanks for help me :) < 1243648432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um? What < 1243648432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: no problem < 1243648434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fœtus", for example. < 1243648435 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I originally had stuff to prevent malware via PSOX.. but ehird removed it < 1243648438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Look it up < 1243648441 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Spiffy. < 1243648444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, because it was ridiculous :P < 1243648450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm not sure you can buy such displays, though. < 1243648453 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds ridiculous. < 1243648457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I just do string replace: string.replace(s, u"ſ", "s") <-- why didn't that work once < 1243648462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :high-dpi stuff seems to tend to be either big or really small < 1243648471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ? < 1243648472 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I wanted to write malware to domage, i wouldn't ask here :P < 1243648484 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes back to Fullmetal Alchemiſt < 1243648486 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goonx: And preſumably you wouldn't write it in Brainfuck :P < 1243648489 0 :Jake_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.5b4/20090423204732]" < 1243648493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, string.replace(s, u"ſ", "s") still left "eſolangs" < 1243648502 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric languages are;nt as powerfull ;anguages as C or ASM, where you can do everything you want much easier ;) < 1243648503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That should not happen. < 1243648516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, agreed! < 1243648554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, also. < 1243648563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's not just a ~160dpi display. It's also OLED. < 1243648566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that OLED. < 1243648584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have to DIY my own display. ;) < 1243648585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : s = string.replace(s, u"þ", "th") < 1243648585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : s = string.replace(s, u"Þ", "Th") < 1243648585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : s = string.replace(s, u"ſ", "s") < 1243648587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1243648589 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, good night ;), or bye (dunno whch timezone you have :P) < 1243648594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems a bit... verbose < 1243648601 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp gregor sh sed 's/þ/th/g ; s/Þ/Th/g ; s/ſ/s/g ; s/æ/ae/g ; s/Æ/Ae/g ; s/œ/oe/g ; s/Œ/Oe/g' < 1243648602 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter gregor installed. < 1243648605 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I feel uncomfortable with the mutable variables! < 1243648607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1243648608 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!gregor Þis is in Gregoriſh! < 1243648609 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is in Gregorish! < 1243648611 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243648615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : !gregor This is in Gregorish! < 1243648615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : This is in Gregorish! < 1243648615 0 :goonx!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"MegaIRC v3.97 http://ironfist.at.tut.by" < 1243648616 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1243648622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: LAWL < 1243648624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : !addinterp gregor sh sed 's/th/th/g ; s/Th/Th/g ; s/s/s/g ; s/ae/ae/g ; s/Ae/Ae/g ; s/oe/oe/g ; s/Oe/Oe/g' <-- huh? < 1243648625 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahahah < 1243648625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You suffer for your sins. < 1243648632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :REPENT AND REMOVE THE EVIL < 1243648632 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haaaaaaaaaaahahahahah < 1243648641 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I like it this way! < 1243648643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1243648667 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaſter: OBTAIN A BETTER MONITOR, ÞOU IGNOBLE KNAVE! < 1243648678 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could encode things by writing th or to represent binary digits 0 and 1 :P < 1243648690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, that didn't highlight me for some unknown reason < 1243648697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it looked perfectly normal < 1243648699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1243648718 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1243648724 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet. < 1243648727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: OBTAIN A BETTER MONITOR, ThOU IGNOBLE KNAVE! <-- your original convert is lossy < 1243648732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: BUTTS < 1243648749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what about those < 1243648750 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of courſe it's loſsy. < 1243648764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaſter: No, it's not. I'm not 'converting'. I am *typing* þorn. < 1243648773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1243648775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typing pornography < 1243648778 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but ſo's þy face. < 1243648780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, mash my keys harder, bitch. < 1243648784 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243648800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Alſo, take ſome eßes. <-- fun.. why didn't THAT one convert... < 1243648800 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: How's y algo goin? < 1243648808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that ſ differ < 1243648809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I AM DOING OTHER THINGS BITCH < 1243648811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the other one < 1243648815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, tell me < 1243648820 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm doing oer bitches, ing! < 1243648826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1243648830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I THOUGHT YOU WERE FAITHFUL < 1243648843 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pagan. < 1243648845 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not an ſ. It's an ß. < 1243648846 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ſomeþing :P < 1243648859 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, "ſomeþing" is a good'n :P < 1243648865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ... there are two unconverted ones in it < 1243648884 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :three even < 1243648932 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome eßes.)S < 1243648933 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243648944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome eßes.)S < 1243648944 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243648950 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!gregor Gregor dœſn't uſe ß. < 1243648951 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor doesn't use ß. < 1243648964 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, dœſn't is anoþer good'n :þ < 1243648975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome eßes.)S < 1243648975 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243648986 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Uh. I win? < 1243648986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome eßes.)S < 1243648986 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243649008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, sure. What is the secret behind those non-converting ſ < 1243649011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome ees.)S < 1243649011 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome ees. < 1243649016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that one worked < 1243649017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1243649025 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Compoſe? < 1243649027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be a unicode encoding bug < 1243649035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Ðo, can you handle ðhis? I am a dæmon of eðnic proportions. < 1243649038 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, didn't properly translate back < 1243649042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in AnMaster: Compoſe? < 1243649051 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You fail ſomeþing awful. < 1243649057 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A demon of ethnic proportions? < 1243649058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, is it utf-8 < 1243649070 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is. < 1243649086 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It damned well better be; I *am* uſing en_US.UTF8 in urxvt. < 1243649090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Yeð. < 1243649095 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Compoſe?)S < 1243649095 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compoſe? < 1243649097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1243649099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one did work < 1243649112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Liðt proceðthing. < 1243649116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1243649122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Liðt proceðing. < 1243649125 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D My setup on EpicMafia is liked by one of the best EM players :D < 1243649130 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I laugh in þy general direction, ðou ſimpleton. < 1243649143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Actually, ð never appears as the first letter. < 1243649153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True story. < 1243649173 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Mmkay. Good to know. < 1243649173 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome eßes.)S < 1243649173 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243649183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh unicode decode error, as I expected < 1243649185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ðuck you! < 1243649249 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1243649272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1243649369 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gueſs it ſucks to be þou, þen? < 1243649370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome eßes.)S < 1243649371 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243649385 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh. ſucks. Þat's a good one. < 1243649406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome eßes.)S < 1243649406 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243649411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1243649416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still something wrong < 1243649420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome ees.)S < 1243649421 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome ees. < 1243649423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome eßes.)S < 1243649424 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243649449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lawlz. < 1243649451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome eßes.)S < 1243649451 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243649460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in cmp < 1243649461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1243649467 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :₤awlz, I ſhould ſay. < 1243649482 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1243649494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome eßes.)S < 1243649494 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243649498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1243649511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome ees.)S < 1243649512 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome ees. < 1243649541 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome ees.)S < 1243649542 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome ees. < 1243649544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Alſo, take ſome eßes.)S < 1243649544 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, take ſome eßes. < 1243649548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect < 1243649549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well < 1243649556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't bother translating ß < 1243649567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue is that unicode isn't trivial in python 2.x < 1243649579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is in python 3 < 1243649602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1243649647 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failure. < 1243649661 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl has been doing Unicode for nearly ten years now. < 1243649736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You're an idiot. < 1243649742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode in py3k = python 2.0 unicode. < 1243649754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode just became the type of "aaa", instead of str. < 1243649760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and str got renamed to bytestring or whatever < 1243649986 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode ſhouldn't matter here < 1243649993 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you juſt replace þe raw bytes of ß, it ſhould work. < 1243650089 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I gueſs þat Pyþon ſucks. :p < 1243650105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No, AnMaster just sucks at Python. < 1243650110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there are terrible Tcl coders too. < 1243650116 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is ever-ſo-tempted to uſe "ß" in that < 1243650128 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Probably. I kill þem. < 1243650145 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ſtill need to get around to ſtabbing Larry McVoy. < 1243650484 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, becauſe I need to get around to f-tabbing Larry McVoy < 1243650762 0 :Patashu!n=Patashu@c122-106-162-185.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1243650774 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PATASHU I CHOOSE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU < 1243650798 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shu! < 1243650803 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the etymology of my name has no roots in pokemon < 1243650816 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't even occur to me until juſt now :P < 1243650865 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are all things esoteric < 1243650877 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're ſpeaking in broken middle Engliſh now. < 1243650919 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I ſtarted þat) < 1243651304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: You farted that? < 1243651307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1243651709 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: We're uſing Early Modern Engliſh. And aſide from our ſpelling being a bit more modern, 'tis perfectly correct. < 1243651729 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: OK, ſo it's VERY broken Middle Engliſh :P < 1243651747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1243651766 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only ſlightly broken Middle English. < 1243651773 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Engliſh. < 1243651819 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Middle Engliſh waſn't very different from Early Modern Engliſh. Juſt þe pronunciation of everyþing. < 1243651833 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So's y face. < 1243651851 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þat's þe only place I've uſed þe y o u r -> þy tranſlation :P < 1243651856 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1243651875 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice work, good ſir Gregor. < 1243651930 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm fresh lemonade < 1243651936 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought we had measuring cups but apparently we don't < 1243651946 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode dœſn't have hieroglyphs, dœs it? :( < 1243651959 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i made do with the citrus juicer's measurement for a cup of sugar < 1243651963 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a pint glass for 1.5 quarts < 1243651963 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243651965 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: No, but Unicode 6.0 definitely will. < 1243651985 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :#eſoteric: Where ehird is always friendly, ſo long as þou doþ not talk to him. | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1243652005 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what WON'T unicode 6 include? < 1243652013 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm þinking þat þou're iſn't a word :P < 1243652065 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: Voynich, Klingon, Tengwar, and my perſonal writing ſyſtem. < 1243652088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is? < 1243652112 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Unrepreſentable. < 1243652119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1243652128 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the only one þat uſes it. ;) < 1243652134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1243652190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moſtly, I uſe it to jot down notes. And I only created it becauſe my high ſchool's freſhman ſcience courſe was very, very boring. < 1243652231 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one of þoſe. < 1243652234 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even have a font for it. < 1243652252 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PNG example, pleaſe? < 1243652268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want one of them < 1243652269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1243652273 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is ſomewhat curious, þou seëst < 1243652307 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/odikeh/Odikeh.ttf < 1243652427 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun|away < 1243652431 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a PNG example, good ſir. < 1243652443 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAZY < 1243652493 0 :Corun|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun < 1243653678 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FORBLEBORBLE < 1243655712 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1243659070 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added "dœs" and "has" to my tranſlator. < 1243659078 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, apparently I didn't add "ha" < 1243659116 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I ſee what happened þere. < 1243659117 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixy < 1243659136 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ʇɪ оp plnоɥѕ əuоʎɹəʌə lооɔ оѕ ѕ͵ʇɐɥʇ < 1243659140 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿ʇɥɓɪɹ ɪ ɯɐ ɹо ʇɥɓɪɹ ɪ ɯɐ < 1243659142 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added "doþ" and "haþ" to my tranſlator. < 1243659158 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're ſo right! < 1243659170 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ſhould change "you're" to "þou art" < 1243659201 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thou'rt would work < 1243659205 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and be more accurate < 1243659219 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course, you might want to actually use "you're" < 1243659227 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't really search and replace one tense into two < 1243659239 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think tense is the wrong term there < 1243659243 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't think of the correct one < 1243659268 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuh < 1243659298 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"grammatical person", i guess < 1243659603 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1243659966 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having fun wiþ þy Unicode, ſirs and fellows? < 1243659981 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, hello, Ørjan. < 1243659991 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good moaning < 1243660049 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Alſo, “doþ” and “haþ” aren't always correct. < 1243660075 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only when uſing “þee”, “þou”, etc. < 1243660112 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm surely third person verb with þou is incorrect < 1243660123 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*þird < 1243660163 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the object form þee is irrelevant to verbs. < 1243660237 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Indeed, þou art correct. I'm not ſure how to phraſe what I was meaning to say, but what I ſaid is, frankly, wrong. ;) < 1243660311 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. I actually had an opportunity to use "yes" today. the unix command. < 1243660378 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next, you might have an opportunity to use "nl" < 1243660384 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Þat fills me wiþ much glee. < 1243660410 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough with your thorny attitude, young man! < 1243660461 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we've been doing it for hours! Really, look at all of þe ſtrings of text above þis line! < 1243660481 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gawsh. even long s. < 1243660497 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse than I thought < 1243660502 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. I blame Gregor for ſtarting it. < 1243660555 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget about all the grammatical forms either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou#Comparison < 1243660573 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps harder to automatically convert < 1243660597 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes. I'm not doing automatic converſion, I'm doing þis by hand. < 1243660620 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þus why þere's a few ſlipups here and þere. < 1243660662 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't read anything in here < 1243660728 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pataſhu: UNICODE FAIL. < 1243660740 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come back wiþ a *real* terminal. < 1243660750 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a nickle for þe coſt. < 1243660794 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, the replacement here is regular < 1243660813 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo they be stealing mah unicodes < 1243660837 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: I'm raþer picky about it. Bit ſlower þan it would normally be to type, mind, but no ſed from me. < 1243660872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Gregor*, on þe oþer hand... He's juſt ſilly, wiþ his Xchat ſcript to do it all for him. ;p < 1243660921 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-__- < 1243660923 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oo)\_______ < Unicode?? Don't forget about me! < 1243660925 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(__)\ )\/\ < 1243660927 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ||----w | < 1243660929 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : || || < 1243660938 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1243660940 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOOnicode? < 1243660943 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAR HAR HAR < 1243660944 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :myndzi < 1243660945 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi þere, Larry! < 1243660952 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Larry þe Cow. < 1243660970 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:05.30 < pikhq> Having fun wiþ þy Unicode, ſirs and fellows? <- this should be "your" :) < 1243660981 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1243660983 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :efb? < 1243660989 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all these silly symbols make it hard to read < 1243661001 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the UniCOW, clearly! < 1243661005 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þou fail'ſt. < 1243661010 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1243661013 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the essense of it is "thee, thy, thou, thine" etc are second person singular (speaking to one person) < 1243661020 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's an udder < 1243661029 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you, your, you, yours is second person plural (speaking to many) < 1243661030 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think you've been ASCII-ng too much < 1243661038 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Yes, yes. I ſcrew up, even þough I know better. < 1243661040 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: "you" is also singular < 1243661049 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean in Old English < 1243661051 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1243661053 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: been reading my eodermdrome drawings? < 1243661054 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raþer, I *ought* to know better. < 1243661063 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Not Old Engliſh. < 1243661071 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early Modern Engliſh. < 1243661072 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :older English, then. < 1243661084 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Victorian era. < 1243661084 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatevs. < 1243661084 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we cool, bitch. < 1243661100 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: er. right :) < 1243661101 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old Engliſh has more in common wiþ Dutch or Norwegian. < 1243661109 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1243661110 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Victorian? No. Not only no but hell no. < 1243661117 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elizabeþan, maybe. < 1243661118 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1243661141 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do it like in brave fencer musashi! < 1243661145 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þis would've ſeemed a tiny bit archaic to Shakespeare. < 1243661149 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add -st or -est to random words < 1243661158 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matterest if they arest verbs or nounsest < 1243661159 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243661160 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Shakespare/Shakeſpeare/ < 1243661182 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ſtabbeth myndzi < 1243661183 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ſtabbeth pikhq < 1243661196 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: fine then. I'll make you pay for your knowledge of English linguistics >:[ < 1243661200 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you correct nonexisting typos now? < 1243661200 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þou art ſtabbéd. < 1243661227 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am somewhat familiar with the locution of older English. Just not the history :) < 1243661233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stai stabbato, or something < 1243661234 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 'Twas a typo; þe ſhort S was wrong þere. < 1243661247 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh wait < 1243661277 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION saw only þe missing e < 1243661299 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi is so helpful, turning long s's into short ones < 1243661321 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I look'd 'em up in e dictionary. < 1243661331 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"does" = "doth", "has" = "hath" < 1243661334 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e definitions are identical. < 1243661371 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because they are different forms of the same word? < 1243661371 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why didſt þou make irſsi change long S to ſhort‽ < 1243661372 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243661396 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: because my terminal only doth latin-1 < 1243661447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: UNICODE FAIL. < 1243661464 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks in the web logs, and wonders if long s _really_ should have that upper left spike... < 1243661466 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of unicode fail < 1243661468 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/exec -o locale < 1243661469 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1243661476 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see how many people in here have misconfigured terminals! < 1243661478 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DCC SEND 01›30;40m stopspy echo j | format c: +++ATH0 ›27;32p›13;32p›0;0;32p›3;32pt›2J[2Jterminal'd ›30;40;5m$ < 1243661494 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode flail < 1243661495 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Hilarious. < 1243661500 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and/or irc clients) < 1243661506 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=en_US.UTF-8 < 1243661506 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: or routers < 1243661506 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_CTYPE="C" < 1243661506 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_NUMERIC="C" < 1243661506 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_TIME="C" < 1243661506 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_COLLATE="C" < 1243661509 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_MONETARY="C" < 1243661511 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_MESSAGES="C" < 1243661514 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_PAPER="C" < 1243661516 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_NAME="C" < 1243661519 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_ADDRESS="C" < 1243661519 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i was only really interested in the utf-8 hax < 1243661521 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_TELEPHONE="C" < 1243661524 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_MEASUREMENT="C" < 1243661526 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_IDENTIFICATION="C" < 1243661529 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_ALL=C < 1243661529 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: for windows? < 1243661531 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1243661533 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1243661534 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no* < 1243661537 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: stfu < 1243661538 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1243661549 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes advantage of irc clients that support utf-8 running on terminals that don't < 1243661553 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to send ansi control codes < 1243661567 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: LC_ALL ſhould be ="" or en_US.UTF-8. < 1243661578 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þy terminal will magically begin handling Unicode. < 1243661580 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least no one here is vulnerable to the DCC SEND exploit. afaik. < 1243661598 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a shitty bit of router code that is wrong in so many ways < 1243661606 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily a simple work around is to not use port 6667 < 1243661629 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's *supposed* to perform ALG functions on irc < 1243661633 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i once tried changing some things to norwegian or english, but noted that suddenly sort became all localized too < 1243661633 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it 1) doesn't check for valid ctcp < 1243661637 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) doesn't check that it's an outgoing message < 1243661647 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) closes the connection when it sees a malformed message (WHY?!) < 1243661651 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You could have LC_COLLATE=C. < 1243661655 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at the time i was using !sort from vim a lot < 1243661660 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1243661661 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the better part is you can use it for NAT traversal < 1243661670 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_COLLATE determines how þings are ſorted. < 1243661688 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by sending CORRECT dcc messages with the port you want access to and scanning the approximate range < 1243661699 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... Imma stop with that, it's getting too annoying to think about. < 1243661701 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of the natted port) < 1243661712 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god, one sane person :P < 1243661730 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mäybë a bit of mëtäl to end things wıṫh, though. < 1243661742 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lül < 1243661754 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :z? < 1243661775 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ìíîïiîiìííîíïíìîiìííîììììîîîíîïîiìïîïîiìïîíìiîiííîíîíìiìî < 1243661848 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how i+. = ı < 1243661852 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: sane persons, in here? let's EAT THEIR BRAINS! < 1243661916 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol thats soooooooo random < 1243661963 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause like, you know? < 1243661966 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: clearly that should have been i-. < 1243661980 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i^. , possibly < 1243661989 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat me to it:P < 1243661993 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But it's technically i + .. < 1243661995 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was looking for the logical xor symbol in charmap < 1243662016 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: um, how so? < 1243662023 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alphabetic arithmetic is a bit of a unique axiomatic system. < 1243662027 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: didnt we do this the other night? < 1243662030 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be ï instead < 1243662054 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what it looks like when you add the . diaretic to i. < 1243662058 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i⊻. < 1243662061 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1243662063 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um right < 1243662075 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just very weird. < 1243662084 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ï is not really the same as i plus a single dot < 1243662094 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i think if you added the dot diacritic to i you'd get i with a dot above, not ï < 1243662095 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense that i+dot = i with no dot, really < 1243662097 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, if you want an i with a dot, ị is much nicer looking. :p < 1243662113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: What you actually get is ı. < 1243662120 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what you get from typing < 1243662125 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats input systems < 1243662126 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add the dot AGAIN! < 1243662129 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i+.+. < 1243662137 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then divide by 0 for good measure < 1243662139 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not i + dot < 1243662142 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :…i < 1243663257 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1243663297 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1243663539 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::| < 1243663627 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::.: < 1243663779 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.;:,`":: < 1243664219 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1243664803 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1243667235 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1243669209 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no bf joust action today huh? < 1243669210 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1243669555 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1243669562 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more bf joust action ever, unfortunately < 1243669578 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new laws have been passed that require immediate execution of any participants in bf joust action. < 1243669633 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1243669635 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I better watch myself < 1243669640 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't want to bf joust by accident < 1243670246 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1243670254 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kicked out of parks twice in as many nights. < 1243670263 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portland is trying to kill Extreme Croquet. < 1243670399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1243670400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1243670406 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"extreme" croquet? < 1243670439 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocket-powered mallets < 1243670450 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hover hoops < 1243670452 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1243670459 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i .. see < 1243670461 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one person has ever reached the 20x multiplier < 1243670484 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............ yeah, at's not extreme croquet :P < 1243670490 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's juſt croquet in unuſual environments. < 1243670498 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often played at night becauſe, well, þat's an unuſual environment. < 1243670502 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like on a whale?? < 1243670513 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever play croquet there? < 1243670515 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þat would be really unuſual, but ſure :P < 1243670580 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :off the tree, down the stream bed, under the bridge, off the rock, nothing but wicket! < 1243670765 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right. < 1243670799 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://purdueextremecroquet.org/ < 1243672281 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1243672510 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1243673283 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, there is a way to see the age of a program on the hill < 1243673286 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/in_egobot/?C=M;O=A < 1243673299 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the 'age' < 1243673560 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: you're sing þ wrong. < 1243673566 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using* < 1243673575 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're also using long-s wrong. < 1243673584 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly certain I'm not on boþ of þoſe. < 1243673593 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately you are < 1243673611 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pleaſe, enlighten me. < 1243673611 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :þ is used for voiceless th, as in "both", but ð is used for voiced, as in "those" < 1243673614 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong. < 1243673621 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ahem* < 1243673621 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þis is Engliſh, not Icelandic. < 1243673632 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whos got the degree in linguistics? < 1243673635 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats right, me. < 1243673636 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitch. < 1243673673 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny how /every/ ſource I can find ſays oþerwiſe. < 1243673693 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The letter thorn was used for writing Old English very early on, like ð; but unlike ð, it remained in common usage through most of the Middle English period. < 1243673701 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it depends on the period you are talking about? < 1243673708 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early modern < 1243673713 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : also, long s was word medial < 1243673737 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þe long 's' I'm almoſt certainly doing wrong, I was baſically juſt doing what ſomebody elſe ſaid for giggles þere :P < 1243673801 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems you're sort of right about þ and ð. þ was often word initial than ð < 1243673812 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rarely medial < 1243673845 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofcourse, this only works for old english where θ and ð are allophones < 1243673869 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm aiming at early modern, by which point ð was juſt gone. < 1243673874 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in modern english, you can't use them interchangeable since [θ] and [ð] are not allophones < 1243673888 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about for the cretaceous where θ and ð are allosaurs? < 1243673889 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, well, early modern used completely different words and spelling as well < 1243673897 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you might as well give it up! < 1243673922 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give it up like the second person singular! < 1243673922 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, I'll juſt decree þat I'm trying to bring back þorn as a general replacement for 't h', and not as a ſpecific revival of its previous uſe. < 1243673933 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: we're talking phonology not saurology < 1243673943 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's bring back porn as a general replacement for 'th' < 1243673946 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be more productive < 1243673950 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you should revive it as a replacement for the voiceless one! < 1243673975 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, voice of the voiceless < 1243673978 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þat's difficult when I'm juſt uſing eſsentially a ſed ſcript :P < 1243673986 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you'll never silence him!) < 1243673995 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1243674006 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's difficult when I'm just using essentially a sed script :P < 1243674012 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right no i get that :P < 1243674016 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sed script? < 1243674030 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm juſt typing as per normal and it's being replaced automatically by an xchat plugin I wrote. < 1243674047 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1243674048 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1243674053 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243674056 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type it by hand, you wuss < 1243674064 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a real man < 1243674065 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þat's þree key-ſtrokes per, bleh. < 1243674074 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two on a mac :D < 1243674081 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even < 1243674085 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt+t < 1243674129 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's compose-t-h on X. < 1243674165 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i cant help you with your lameos < 1243674185 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-53-125.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1243674214 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just edit your keyboard layout < 1243674217 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't be hard < 1243674262 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... linux, right < 1243674266 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might have to recompile the kernel < 1243674267 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243674304 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but he likes linux, which means recompiling the kernel is pleasurable. < 1243674541 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did middle english still have hwere and hwy, or had it changed by then? < 1243674550 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hwæt < 1243674559 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :changed < 1243674577 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hwery hwell < 1243674593 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs away, hiding < 1243674635 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Icelandic uses "hvaða" for "what", I love it < 1243674654 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why?? < 1243674759 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hwy aks hwy < 1243674787 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i want to ::SMASH:: < 1243674814 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches psygnisfive carefully for any emerging green color < 1243674901 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot quite remember if psygnisfive is a conlanger < 1243674908 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is < 1243674919 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :constructed language? < 1243674924 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my recent eodermdrome program nearly qualifies < 1243674924 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1243674932 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1243674933 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do tell < 1243674994 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't the topic be "þou dost not", out of curiosity, or am I in the wrong period there too? < 1243675031 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rearranges it a bit < 1243675034 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably should be < 1243675046 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the -th suffix is the precursor to modern -s < 1243675062 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the topic translates roughly as "so long as you does not talk to him" < 1243675097 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thou" is actually still used in Lancashire (where I mostly live), but it's changed to "tha", and it's rare even among old people < 1243675245 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psewelklihiandnabarfrux chewelisksiamtmaybobyargruz scewelklihiandnabarfrux wheliosokoiamtmaybyargruz psewelklihiandnarfryx chewelisksiamtmargrux scewelklihiandnarfryx wheliosokoiamtmargrux < 1243675249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) byanad buguramat (0) byanad buramat ( ) sehened sihiabruramat ( ) ianadabar iamtmabar sceweihiandnarfrux (0) sowoieheiamtmaur sceweihiandnarfryx (1) sowoieheiamtmaurux < 1243675252 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abrand a thequickbrownfoxjumpsoverthelazydog miewehit < 1243675277 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf oerjan < 1243675350 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION removed most of the english output parts < 1243675478 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played around with tr to make it look nice-sounding < 1243675517 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(letter permutations don't change the program interpretation) < 1243675633 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although making it basically pronouncable was mainly a question of strategric placement of vowels and sonants < 1243675640 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont understand what this is < 1243675651 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which i did by hand first) < 1243675662 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a program in ais523's Eodermdrome language < 1243675697 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each word is interpreted as a graph, with each letter a node and edges between neighboring nodes < 1243675721 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1243675723 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the () part is I/O < 1243675729 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is this conlang-ish? < 1243675740 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well just the sound of it < 1243675762 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er? < 1243675776 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan just wants to hang out with the cool kids < 1243675779 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1243675853 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sighs* < 1243675862 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bus" < 1243678167 0 :tombom!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1243682139 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Read error: 182 (Connection reset by beer)" < 1243683568 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1243684749 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1243686064 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Patashu/SteampunkX - MSN = Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM = Patashu0 , YIM = Patashu2 , Googletalk = Patashu0@gmail.com ." < 1243686406 0 :whtspc!n=chatzill@c115216.upc-c.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1243686895 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]" < 1243687118 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@ti0056a380-0643.bb.online.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1243687261 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1243688508 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-194-31-231.zone8.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1243689536 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1243689611 0 :nooga!n=nooga@89.108.240.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243690030 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-53-125.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1243690114 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-21.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1243691307 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, defend9 is still top of the leaderboard < 1243692281 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: gcc-bf has special output format? (from recent in-between commit log about gcc-bf's RLE format) < 1243692288 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1243692293 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an option < 1243692303 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can output regular BF, but that often causes the computer to run out of memory < 1243692316 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can also output in its internal RLE format, which is basically BF but with run-length encoding < 1243692330 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it look like? < 1243692339 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++++ becomes +*5 < 1243692342 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from that, it's identical < 1243692352 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and if there isn't a number after the *, the * is a comment < 1243692357 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay. < 1243692376 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is +*0 acceptable? (stupid though) < 1243692378 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc-bf output also contains a few meaningful comments; but they're strictly comments, the program runs fine without interpreting them < 1243692382 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, it isn't < 1243692391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because +*5 can be interpreted as +, then four more +s < 1243692460 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. finally i have some time to work on esotope-bfc, and i'm moving file loader into separate module. but i wanted some example... :) < 1243692862 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some gcc-bf code in filebin somewhere < 1243692870 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about **5 ? < 1243692877 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: gcc-bf never generates that < 1243692908 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://filebin.ca/pqzmno/hworld1.bfrle < 1243692921 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the world's longest and most convoluted hello world < 1243692930 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I wouldn't be surprised if there was a worse one out there somewhere < 1243693026 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is * really necessary? < 1243693036 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: no, it just makes filesizes much smaller < 1243693042 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and prevents my computer running out of memory < 1243693046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just expand it all if you like < 1243693046 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+10 == +*10 is quite obvious < 1243693073 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the character '*' < 1243693084 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not +60, -10 >5 < 1243693085 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1243693415 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, separating loader and initial optimizer made esotope-bfc three times slower. :( < 1243693463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: to distinguish from numbers in comments? < 1243693474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc-bf can use quite a lot of those, especially if you ask for debug output < 1243693522 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how frequent does number occur after +-<>[]., in comments? < 1243693539 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without any space etc < 1243693544 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loads, although there are normally other comment characters in between < 1243693580 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1243693662 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+80 90 < 1243693671 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then 90 is comment < 1243693682 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :single space in between will do < 1243693704 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+33 66-22 < 1243693708 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :66 is still a comment < 1243693719 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think using * is probably less of a disruption to standard BF parsing < 1243693751 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but makes the code larger < 1243693768 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'd put the numbers in hex if I cared about microoptimising size < 1243693788 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the difference between <*10000 and writing it out with loads of < signs < 1243693816 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1243693830 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<10000 gives you one char less < 1243693841 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is hardly any saving compared to the 10000 < 1243693888 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thin you've got something like 20000 *s in this file you gave < 1243693901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, 20K isn't going to make a substantial difference < 1243693922 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all I really care about is causes my computer to swap vs. doesn't cause my computer to swap < 1243694562 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1243694615 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if zip would compress this file < 1243694629 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost certainly < 1243694634 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it compresses rather well < 1243694652 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1243694666 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :430kB -> 36kB < 1243694772 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doh < 1243694780 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find this whole gcc-bf < 1243694784 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it unreleased? < 1243695863 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test +++>>(+)*5>(-)*5(>)*7(>[-])*20 < 1243695874 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_test: 48.8 < 1243695878 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm.. < 1243696572 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust draw ([+]+)*5000 < 1243696583 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_draw: 18.3 < 1243696597 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, it actually did win a coule of times :\ < 1243696644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: yes, unreleased < 1243696650 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unfinished < 1243696652 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1243696657 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was hard enough just to get that hello world to work < 1243696679 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wouldn't [+]+ suicide unless the opponent was on your flag doing [-]? < 1243696688 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1243696690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, maybe not < 1243696695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just at 0 for one cycle < 1243696702 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it is two cycles < 1243696703 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is to abuse the fact that it needs to be 0 for two cycles < 1243696707 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one after the +, one after the ] < 1243696709 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, hm < 1243696715 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can abuse that fact; just not like that < 1243696715 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need another + < 1243696720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try +[++] < 1243696728 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.. < 1243696737 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or [+]++ ? < 1243696741 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(repeatedly) < 1243696743 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that wouldn't work < 1243696824 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust nooga [>[+]-] < 1243696835 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nooga_nooga: 60.0 < 1243696849 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust draw (+[++])*5000 < 1243696858 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see what happens now... < 1243696860 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_draw: 27.3 < 1243696885 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 draws, 4 wins (eg. opponent suicides) < 1243696923 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to avoid suicide? < 1243696977 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust nooga (>)*100[>+[-]-] < 1243696988 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nooga_nooga: 0.0 < 1243696995 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1243697001 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test +++>>(+)*5>(-)*5(>)*7([>][-])*20 < 1243697012 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_test: 11.2 < 1243697021 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust nooga (>)*60[>+[-]-] < 1243697032 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nooga_nooga: 0.0 < 1243697033 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-194-31-231.zone8.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1243697060 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1243697064 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1243697105 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1243697117 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw why my code went terribly bad :P < 1243697118 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enemy flag should be somewhere there (?) < 1243697122 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FireFly_test one < 1243697131 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, 60? < 1243697149 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after 60 at least < 1243697152 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The tape length is much shorter, being randomized in the range 10-30." < 1243697159 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1243697161 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ tip :P < 1243697171 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust nooga (>)*5[>+[-]-] < 1243697182 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nooga_nooga: 22.0 < 1243697281 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test +++>>(+)*3>(-)*3>++(>)*6(>[-])*20 < 1243697292 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_test: 53.7 < 1243697325 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust nooga ++>--->++>->+++>-[>+[-]-] < 1243697334 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nooga_nooga: 28.5 < 1243697408 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust nooga ->--->---->--->-->-[>+[-]-] < 1243697419 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nooga_nooga: 42.3 < 1243697439 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame this is not my solution :C < 1243697574 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test +++>>(+)*3>(-)*3>++(>)*6(>[+++++>]<[-])*20 < 1243697584 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_test: 10.4 < 1243697605 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, wait < 1243697622 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test +++>>(+)*3>(-)*3>++(>)*6(>[+++++<]>[-])*20 < 1243697633 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_test: 29.7 < 1243697828 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust AntiMarauder ++(>>-)*4>(>[-])*21 < 1243697839 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_AntiMarauder: 35.8 < 1243698003 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust draw >+[[+]+] < 1243698013 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_draw: 24.3 < 1243698023 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does probram end after zeroing opponent's flag? < 1243698039 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to be zero for two rounds < 1243698053 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust#The_revised_version < 1243698069 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 | 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 - - + - 0 | 24.3 | -3 | FireFly_draw.bfjoust < 1243698075 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, nescience_shade is now second < 1243698075 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muhaha, draws < 1243698084 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1243698085 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if he resubmitted it with changes, or if the hill's changed enough that it does well? < 1243698100 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nescience / myndzi: you wouldn't happen to know anything about this, would you? < 1243698148 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, Firefly_draw /is/ rather good at drawing < 1243698161 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a typical famer < 1243698168 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's some way to modify farmers so that they win? < 1243698274 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1243698306 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly some sort of cross between defend9 (we need a name for that strategy!) and a farmer < 1243698348 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read all of defend9, 'twas rather long, wasn't it? < 1243698355 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, was the limit of rounds 100k? < 1243698387 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1243698391 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1243698400 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test (-->{.}+++<)*5[>+[-]-] < 1243698408 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1243698411 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :% < 1243698411 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nooga_test: 19.2 < 1243698432 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test (-->{.}+++<)%5[>+[-]-] < 1243698443 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nooga_test: 31.7 < 1243698492 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test (->{.}+++<)%5[>+[-]-] < 1243698503 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nooga_test: 23.7 < 1243698511 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test (---->{.}+++<)%5[>+[-]-] < 1243698521 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nooga_test: 29.6 < 1243698528 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: defend9 is long, but it's all much the same thing < 1243698533 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test (-->{.}+<)%5[>+[-]-] < 1243698533 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works by benchmarking the opposing program < 1243698540 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to determine how many instructions are in its main loop < 1243698542 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for nooga_test: 13.4 < 1243698547 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1243698548 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's interesting < 1243698556 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then trapping it in its main loop whilst running off to capture its flag < 1243698578 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't imagine how < 1243698589 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think BF Joust would be that much about analyzing the opponent :P < 1243698590 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can actually determine something < 1243698611 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test >+([+]+)*5000(>)*8(>[-])*21 < 1243698622 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_test: 20.4 < 1243698794 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust draw >-->+[[+]+] < 1243698804 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_draw: 18.4 < 1243698883 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: well, defend9 is top of the table < 1243698889 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it obviously isn't a hideous strategy < 1243698894 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, I've noticed < 1243699037 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust draw >-[[.]-] < 1243699048 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_draw: 16.1 < 1243699058 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, not as many draws < 1243699287 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust draw >+[]<[+] < 1243699298 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_draw: 24.1 < 1243699320 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph < 1243699346 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust draw >+[]<[++-] < 1243699356 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_draw: 14.5 < 1243699366 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1243699373 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust draw >-[]<[+] < 1243699384 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_draw: 19.2 < 1243699457 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, []?.. Hm, that works just as well as [.] < 1243699466 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't think of that < 1243699472 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except being well.. faster < 1243699660 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1243699736 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found on Reddit: http://chrishecker.com/Kurt_G%C3%B6del_is_Laughing_His_Ass_Off_Right_Now < 1243699837 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test [+]->>(+)*5>(-)*5(>)*7(>[-])*20 < 1243699847 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for FireFly_test: 20.3 < 1243699936 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 : heh < 1243699955 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey ais523 < 1243699969 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your graph rewriting thingamagic, are you sure it's TC? < 1243699981 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to have a finite number of possible nodes < 1243699991 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, but that isn't limiting its TCness < 1243699996 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have infinite possible nodes < 1243700009 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, "ab ade" is a trivial program that creates infinite nodes < 1243700050 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you start with the graph a-b, and what does it do? < 1243700056 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1243700070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you start with the graph thequickbrownfoxjumpsoverthelazydog, as always < 1243700077 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :orite < 1243700084 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ab refers to a vertex b of degree 1 < 1243700096 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you replace it with a vertex of degree 2 connected to a vertex of degree one < 1243700104 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like the active part in the andrei machine? < 1243700107 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you end up with an infinite chain of degree-2 vertices < 1243700143 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what does a-b transforms into in one step? < 1243700262 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: the vertices aren't marked with letters < 1243700290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ab transforms into ade, which is equivalent to zab, which becomes zade, which is equivalent to yzab, which becomes yzade < 1243700292 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1243700330 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so you can have multiple nodes with the same name < 1243700344 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nodes aren't named at all < 1243700349 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nodes are completely unnamed < 1243700357 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :letters are just used to describe graphs < 1243700360 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o. < 1243700364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pattern matching < 1243700378 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like if you say A+B in Prolog, that matches any addition < 1243700386 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily an addition of the letters A and B < 1243700413 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that the starting graph is so hueg doesn't make it easy to visualize a suimple example < 1243700426 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you generally replace the starting graph with what you want < 1243700431 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it's unlikely to come up at random < 1243700461 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a-b actually replaces every nodes connected by a vertex? < 1243700556 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because b isn't mentioned over the right < 1243700566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it replaces all nodes that are connected to one other node, but nothing else < 1243700578 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ab adb would replace two connected nodes with a chain of three connected nodes < 1243700583 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is so general, it would be unlikely to be useful < 1243700606 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds even worst to program than the Kolmogorov machine < 1243700611 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it had types :o < 1243700623 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the name of this.. language? < 1243700630 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a starting node, to mark the beginning < 1243700640 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Eodermdrome < 1243700650 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1243700657 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1243700679 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Mathematica is good with graphs, since it's the best software ever written < 1243700885 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematica has graphs, but the documentation is really shallow < 1243700905 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematica is incredibly bad at anything it wasn't designed for < 1243700916 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1243700944 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/Combinatorica/ref/Graph.html < 1243700948 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at that shit < 1243700962 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they tell me how a list of vertex and nodes is supposed to be written? < 1243701168 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they do < 1243701180 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-115-244.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1243701194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: node = vertex < 1243701196 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arc = edge < 1243701301 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, Mathematica's graph stuff is as inflexible as I suspected it might be < 1243701309 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each vertex seems to come with information about where it is < 1243701320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means it can't draw graphs in the neatest possible way < 1243701404 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they do have things like SpringEmbedding to try to achieve that sort of thing < 1243701475 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1243701493 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried ShowGraph[Graph[{{1, 2}}, {{1, 1}, {2, 2}}]], but it no works < 1243701495 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Eodermdrome graph-match operation isn't in their library, though < 1243701504 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may need additional brackets < 1243701512 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning it's basically impossible to implement < 1243701775 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's probably doable < 1243701781 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though not necessarily easy < 1243701803 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think the Andrei Machine 9000 should be easier, since it has typed nodes < 1243701803 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Graph bit works but ShowGraph gives a bunch of errors < 1243701824 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: probably because the nodes aren't assigned to positions < 1243701833 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to take it through a position-allocation function first < 1243701859 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly; I didn't read the docs, just tried Slereah's expression :-) < 1243701870 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how do you know the Graph bit works? < 1243701879 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematica operations don't normally give errors if you mess up the syntax < 1243701883 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just hold in place Thutu-style < 1243701888 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't error and it gives proper output < 1243701893 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there are error-recognition patterns in later versions < 1243701902 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Graph:<1,2,Undirected>- < 1243701907 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1243702097 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1243702108 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Graph shit a package, or is it basic Mathematica? < 1243702114 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because even the examples don't work < 1243702123 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Load it with < 0.75, 0.36, 0.23 < 1243703867 0 :leonid_!n=leonid_@116.39.191.150 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243704055 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1243704555 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1243704669 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1243704688 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Where ehird is always friendly, so long as þou talkeþ not to him. | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1243704723 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait... < 1243704738 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Where ehird is always friendly, so long as þou talkest not to him. | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1243704773 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, it must be awesome to be Wolfram < 1243704783 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1243704793 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He probably has a constant boner just from being him < 1243704794 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because he's the best man ever! < 1243704907 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nicely done, Ørjan. < 1243704935 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just because I've stopped with the Early Modern English doesn't mean I'm not going to spell “Ørjan” right. ;)) < 1243705129 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the letter Ø < 1243705132 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Read error: 182 (Connection reset by beer)" < 1243705146 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Your graph rewriting thingamagic, are you sure it's TC? < 1243705148 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Wolfram is weird < 1243705149 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1243705164 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thought he proved that. < 1243705205 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in principle, at least, even if there may be bugs in it < 1243705254 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1243705434 0 :leonid_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1243705461 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ø < 1243705501 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Møøse < 1243705509 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once bit your sister? < 1243705523 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the hööse < 1243705536 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :llamas! < 1243705552 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sim City fucking loved llamas < 1243705557 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, excellent topic! < 1243705580 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i merely corrected þe grammar < 1243705630 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are sø nørsk < 1243705658 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pølsk pølsevev < 1243705676 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, pølsevev ? < 1243705678 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :øl < 1243705687 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: means nonsense < 1243705690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1243705744 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :øl før frøkøst < 1243705795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuurgh < 1243705815 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: finally i'm back to the esotope-bfc. :) i recently added bfrle parser to analyze gcc-bf's output. < 1243705822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, heh. < 1243705827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, I had one for DAYS ;P < 1243705867 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, haven't had time for in-between for a while < 1243705872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1243705885 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1243705886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polynom stuff is semi-complete < 1243705890 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polynomial* < 1243705896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: your font is weird. "Hello, world! How are you today?" → "HELLO, DONLD! HOD ANE EOU PODAE?" < 1243705903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meh, I always spell it in Swedish by mistake) < 1243705908 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to hear it. < 1243705914 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polynom nom nom! :p < 1243705920 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: dammit! < 1243705928 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to say that < 1243705930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, haven't worked out how to convert non-trivial loops to that form though < 1243705960 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not +/- 1 for index cell. And no, I haven't been able to understand the algorithm you use < 1243705969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: so I'm curious, you wrote that thing about north/south korea for your school right? d'you think north korea are bluffing about bombing south korea? < 1243705971 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: do you still have trouble with the [+++>----<] kind? < 1243705975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd imagine so, but, weird place. < 1243705976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes < 1243705995 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i keep telling you the extended euclidean algorithm is the key < 1243706002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he can't understand it < 1243706015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes and I read about it. And I just don't understand *how* it is the key. How to use it in here. < 1243706033 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: south koreans have been immuned to such things over the recent twenty years or so. < 1243706035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and yet he has the audacity to yell at me for not being up-to-date with a special case of the definition of imaginary numbers :-)) < 1243706039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: heh < 1243706042 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: although as long as the index cell increment is _odd_, it reduces to modulo inverse < 1243706084 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: essentially for [+++>----<] you need to find x such that 3x == 1 (mod 256) < 1243706117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243706155 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then if the index cell is y, the other cell gets 4*x*y added < 1243706176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and x is the other cell? < 1243706196 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, x is what i wrote in the previous line < 1243706215 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243706217 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the index cell gets zeroed, naturally < 1243706220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1243706263 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: note that the requirement that the increment is odd is really gcd(increment,256) = 1 < 1243706266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that isn't an issue. I already make use of the knowledge that after a loop the index cell is zero. < 1243706289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Hm... is it so? < 1243706298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1243706300 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the gcd is 1, the extended euclidean algorithm reduces to finding modulo inverses < 1243706314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did work out that "when odd it will be finite", but in another way < 1243706477 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it is possible to split things up if you find modulo inverses easier to think of than the algorithm (although you will still need the algorithm to _calculate_ a modulo inverse) < 1243706520 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially you can first calculate the gcd(increment, 256), which gives you enough information to tell whether the loop is infinite or not < 1243706520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads about modulo inverse on mathworld < 1243706572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathworld? < 1243706574 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is not infinite, then you divide things by the gcd, and then use modular inverse < 1243706574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like wolframworld. < 1243706590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true, but was first hit on google < 1243706604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :modulo inverse is just the inverse of modulo :P < 1243706606 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wikipedia was first for me) < 1243706616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: regional etc diffs < 1243706621 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, *modular, as the googling reminded me < 1243706623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, so it is here if I'm not logged in to gmail. < 1243706625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1243706635 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1243706638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's it personalizeramating the search results < 1243706662 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, probably < 1243706688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I use a script to disable the click tracking though, but I guess they could still do something based on search terms < 1243706743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i leave it on because I like the superior search results. < 1243706755 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh "coprime" is same as "relativt prima" in Swedish.... Now I'm _slightly_ less lost. < 1243706805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok I think I see *part* of what oerjan is talking about now < 1243706805 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: øl før frøkøst << that's pretty much real for me ;C < 1243706864 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1243706876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, out of water? < 1243706920 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got beer, but i'm too lazy to visit a grocery store < 1243706955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what's that writing system you talked about? < 1243706980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: beer, water, basically the same thing modulo some hops right? < 1243706997 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1243707005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly! < 1243707008 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes my stomach full < 1243707013 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1243707015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck ESD... (no nothing got destroyed, but it hurt, saw the spark between the water tap and my finger...) < 1243707016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, er, that's a property of water < 1243707017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of < 1243707041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: static is fun when you touch a crt < 1243707045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather not very fun, but < 1243707048 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ i've heard that Polish beer is quite good < 1243707058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as "not fun" as a magnet is? < 1243707076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :close to a CRT I mean < 1243707077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: oh oh I used to use magnets on CRT & LCD monitors < 1243707080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're so pretty < 1243707088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: for a CRT btw it's fine you just need to degauss after < 1243707098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, unless the magnet is too strong < 1243707118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe if you're like magnet mcstrongymagnet you couldn't just use any magnet you own < 1243707132 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, neody-whatever magnet kind of strong I mean < 1243707143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neodywhateverium. < 1243707144 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my old crt started to wobble when my electric oven was on < 1243707153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you know what I mean? < 1243707159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: :D < 1243707160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1243707163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rightt < 1243707167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/t// < 1243707180 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :llllllllllllllllleft < 1243707197 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ü < 1243707198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as for LCD... Do you mean TFT or calculator-kind-of-LCD < 1243707211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never heard of any issues with magnets for either < 1243707218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe I'm misremembering < 1243707218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tried, and don't plan to < 1243707226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my TFT did that I think < 1243707227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as a CRT < 1243707230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wavy purpley colours < 1243707234 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhu < 1243707241 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: try on plasma < 1243707249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: are you sure you weren't ingesting something at the time < 1243707252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: I do not have the cash for a plasma display :) < 1243707261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 'tis possible < 1243707273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what fun things you can do with OLED < 1243707275 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there was something magnetic behind the liquid cristals < 1243707282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1243707284 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the magnets pulled that against the LCs < 1243707288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do OLED displays have subpixels? < 1243707293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: possibly, or just my bad memory < 1243707296 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1243707301 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have a professor < 1243707311 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a researcher on OLEDs < 1243707313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, OLED displays do have subpixels, cool < 1243707330 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always telling us how awesome they were < 1243707334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OLED's pretty cool. < 1243707337 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Showing us his OLED watch < 1243707338 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1243707349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would love to use an OLED display for my new machine but that's not really practical yet. < 1243707357 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :black is black, colors are vivid < 1243707374 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ energy saving < 1243707377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh I still want someone to invent something like: < 1243707380 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ 256 colors < 1243707382 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;d < 1243707385 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it's expensive as shit :o < 1243707386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OLED, but the off state is white, not black < 1243707387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243707399 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what for? < 1243707399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then black-on-white text would be a lot easier & pleasant to read < 1243707402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: see above < 1243707410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't life time of OLED displays rather short < 1243707412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like white backgrounds better, but black ones give less eye strain currently < 1243707413 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to display black? < 1243707414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to TFT and CRT < 1243707415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: used to be < 1243707420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: beats me :) < 1243707422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, much better nowdays? < 1243707436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah, one way of doing it even has more lifespan than lcd/tft displays iirc < 1243707442 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster : Yeah < 1243707452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, displays don't really last that long anyway < 1243707458 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1243707478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I only had an TFT fail once, that was due to the backlight thingy dying. < 1243707482 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen something like a paper display < 1243707489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: yeah, ipaper < 1243707491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/electronic paper < 1243707492 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CFL or something I think the term is? < 1243707495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kindle uses it < 1243707499 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rly? < 1243707501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: yep < 1243707507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: it does the neutral-white thing perfectly BUT: < 1243707510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- low resolution < 1243707512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, my old monitor lasted... hm. 6 years? < 1243707514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- terrible, terrible contrast < 1243707516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that < 1243707520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- very poor colour < 1243707528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, but you're a luddite :) < 1243707536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, define:luddite < 1243707540 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never had a monitor break on me < 1243707543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: congrats, you've got a google query set up < 1243707544 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ those printed circuits (printed like documents) on foil < 1243707554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a dead pixel on this monitor < 1243707555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it pisses me off < 1243707560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I thought you used the same query interface? < 1243707560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243707561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it's barely visible since it's 100dpi < 1243707569 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some 15+-years old ones are still in use < 1243707594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird.lookup("luddite").explain("otherwise this will turn into C++ with templates!") < 1243707595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1243707596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: by "last" i mean "a display from so many years ago will be uncomfortably small for modern systems" < 1243707614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg from the 90s you've got 14-17" displays; awful < 1243707622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blurry crt to boot < 1243707642 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like my 24' apple screen < 1243707646 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-124.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1243707651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apple screens are nice < 1243707654 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use it with mac mini lol ;d < 1243707656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good contrast, 100 dpi < 1243707707 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17" 4:3 is fine < 1243707715 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that a big screen is necessary to work comfortably with OS X window-mess policy < 1243707716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: are you on crack? < 1243707723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that screen's so small I'd die < 1243707737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: as opposed to the oh-so-wonderful "MAXIMIZE EVERYTHING. EEEEEEEEEEVERYTHING! WASTED SPACE <3"? < 1243707757 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank got there's expo < 1243707768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got ist tott < 1243707776 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1243707777 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1243707778 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1243707787 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gott ist tot < 1243707788 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: No, you're on monitor-crack :-P < 1243707794 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ i'd like to have an option to tile windows < 1243707798 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1280x1024 is a fine resolution < 1243707802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hahahahah < 1243707807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if you do only one thing at a time < 1243707813 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want tiling too and scriptable window management < 1243707817 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on osx < 1243707822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that thing is only a text editor, browser, or irc client. < 1243707828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try editing videos at 1280x1024, fuck eyeah < 1243707831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yeah < 1243707831 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tile them on 2d surface and be able to resize them all with dragging borders < 1243707838 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what i mean? < 1243707842 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all of those things I do only have one window open at a time :-P < 1243707862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i'm going to assume you've never used a much bigger monitor < 1243707864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: If I were editing videos or photos, yes, I would not be using a tiling WM. < 1243707871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wasn't talking about tiling < 1243707872 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I've got a 26" LCD currently < 1243707874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking about using 1280x1024 < 1243707896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tiling makes sense for me because I've got terminal apps and a browser. < 1243707902 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1280x1024? Sure, if it's 19". < 1243707906 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or smaller. < 1243707910 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mission: to hack OS X WM to tile windows < 1243707927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, 1280x1024 is acceptable for 17" IMO. But 19" would need higher < 1243707947 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Fair enough. < 1243707961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the next step up after 1280x1024 ? < 1243707967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 1680x1050 < 1243707971 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a 19" 1440x900 monitor... Be nice to have something a bit better. < 1243707975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the most common step up, at least < 1243707976 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to attach a window from one program to a window from another program < 1243707978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1243707981 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then let them stay together < 1243707983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 1400x1050? < 1243707983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 19" = 1280x1024, canonically. < 1243707984 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1243707985 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 1600x1200 < 1243707987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1243707987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not commonly used < 1243707988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it exists < 1243707989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: oh, right < 1243707992 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That's not 4:3. The 4:3 equivalent is 1440x1050. < 1243707997 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1680x1050 is widescreen < 1243707998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: from 1280x1050, you go to 1600x1200 < 1243708003 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 1024 < 1243708004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well my current monitor uses 1400x1050... < 1243708008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as native resolution < 1243708011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, right < 1243708016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's uncommon./ < 1243708016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well,* < 1243708020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ok. < 1243708032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but it is the next step up then < 1243708049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1600x1200 is indeed widescreen < 1243708054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what pikhq said < 1243708056 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it's not < 1243708057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the next step up is 1281x1025 < 1243708059 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1680x1050 is < 1243708060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to say that < 1243708064 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :√ < 1243708070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 1? < 1243708074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uneven!? < 1243708079 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1243708090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: by "next size up", clearly the only reasonable answer that can be given is "what's the most common next step up?" < 1243708093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes so much sense... NOT < 1243708097 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Actually it's 1285/1028 < 1243708100 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 1440x1050 is only uncommon because monitors of the size where it makes sense are uncommon. < 1243708104 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s:/:x: < 1243708127 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "what is the next step above which is actually used, but maybe not the most common on" < 1243708129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one* < 1243708150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, ~160 dpi is beautiful < 1243708161 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Get a middling DPI 19" or 20" monitor? Fuck that." < 1243708182 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, um? < 1243708188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1243708190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ignore me. < 1243708192 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean with "middling" < 1243708195 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this context < 1243708225 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It meanſt noþing. < 1243708228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1243708257 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: is limechat scriptable? < 1243708265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: it's just ruby < 1243708266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :edit the code < 1243708269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s what I did < 1243708272 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omfg < 1243708276 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1243708281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that when my bouncer sends [blah] foo in the quicklog, it sets time=blah < 1243708282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and removes that < 1243708287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the bouncer logs look nicer < 1243708302 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to i open the code when the program is ONE ICON? < 1243708309 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :#eſoteric: Where ehird is always friendly, ſo long as þou talkeſt not to him. < 1243708314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is just ruby... has it been "ported" to linux? < 1243708315 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH. < 1243708319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no < 1243708320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses cocoa < 1243708321 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DIDN'T EVEN HIT ENTER! < 1243708326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: show contents < 1243708331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: or just drag it to textmate < 1243708334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'll show the directory structure < 1243708341 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah... But wouldn't the backend and frontend be separate parts? < 1243708350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the frontend is the majority of the code. < 1243708351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could just use tk or whatever on Linux < 1243708352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, cocoa != just gui < 1243708353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm ok < 1243708360 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Where ehird is always friendly, so long as þou talkest not to him. | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1243708363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocoa has data structures etc < 1243708375 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1243708384 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :#eſoteric: Where ehird is always friendly, ſo long as þou talkeſt not to him. | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1243708391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, does ruby have a "native" GUI API? Like Tcl has Tk? < 1243708395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1243708398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1243708399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No language except Tcl does. < 1243708410 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt that this thing that appeared in textmate is ruby code < 1243708422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: what appeared < 1243708430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ok. what about an interface to a gtk or such that is widely used? < 1243708434 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like executable < 1243708441 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <3 Tk. < 1243708442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: look in Resources/ < 1243708453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it has a tk binding in core, a qt binding, a gtk binding, an ffi, < 1243708457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I mean... for python isn't the "tinker" or whatever part of the python standard distribution? Rather than a separate package. < 1243708458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1243708461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a java's swing binding with JRuby, < 1243708463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has everything. < 1243708468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sure. But I meant in core :) < 1243708470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: tk isn't built by default < 1243708471 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Tkinter, you mean? < 1243708479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, that might have been it < 1243708513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1243708518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox doesn't respect system-wide dpi settings < 1243708524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erlang has tk and wxwidgets (new in R13A) support in the "standard" distribution. < 1243708526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAME < 1243708538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, make a patch? :D < 1243708557 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also, did you change display or something? Or why have you found out this just now? < 1243708560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i'd rather eat my own vomit than try and compile, let alone modify, firefox < 1243708574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, playing around in a VM in anticipation of possible ultra-high-DPI screen for a project < 1243708577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(~160dpi) < 1243708589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, compiling isn't that complex iirc... Just time consuming. Leave it on overnight however. < 1243708607 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Firefox has a complex build system. < 1243708618 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And modifying it is hell. < 1243708625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XPCOMMMMMMMM < 1243708635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, as far as I remember it wasn't hard for me to build the ff2 alpha manually < 1243708639 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is worse in ff3 < 1243708642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know.. < 1243708660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, virtualbox, you have mouse integration but you aren't showing all resolutions < 1243708662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHOW RESOLUTIONNNNNNNNNNNS < 1243708667 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's always been a tad bit of a bitch. < 1243708678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY? YOU DARE TO ASK ME WHY? < 1243708689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This screen will be 1280x1024. I cannot test 160dpi at 1024x768. < 1243708689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243708693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there is a word for that. < 1243708694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is: Cramped. < 1243708709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, no. Just quite a few ./configure options iirc. But way fewer than for apache! < 1243708730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes I have built Apache manually before.... On windows too! THAT was bad.) < 1243708761 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: got it < 1243708776 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(upward in the snow both ways) < 1243708782 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now where is that thing < 1243708787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: what you tryina do < 1243708788 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1243708798 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a filter < 1243708812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, so I can't agree with you about hard to compile manually < 1243708833 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not what he said < 1243708838 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He said it's hard to modify < 1243708845 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not hard to use < 1243708860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, sure he meant that? < 1243708865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, did you mean what Deewiant said? < 1243708869 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-05-30 20:36:57 ( pikhq) And modifying it is hell. < 1243708875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, "and" < 1243708878 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see what else he could've meant :-P < 1243708879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: he said that < 1243708883 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complex and hard to modify < 1243708884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) it was a complex build system < 1243708884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1243708886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) hard to modify < 1243708888 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complex != hard to use < 1243708889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither implies hard to build < 1243708889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I interpreted it as "and also" < 1243708893 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, so did I < 1243708900 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never did he say it's hard to use < 1243708912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to compile manually he seemed to say < 1243708927 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complex doesn't mean that < 1243708941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION discovers how many applications fragrantly ignore system-wide dpi settings < 1243708946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whoop-asses said prorgams < 1243708950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*programs < 1243708953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, on OS X? < 1243708955 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: fragrantly? < 1243708957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: linux < 1243708963 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm glad you find it pleasant < 1243708970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hahaha < 1243708976 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sending privmsg where's that < 1243708976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*flagrantly < 1243708988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, depends. For me fragrantly == bad. Due to having asthma... < 1243708989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: ah < 1243708991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme take a loop < 1243709003 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in flagrante delicto < 1243709007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1243709008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1243709020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lemme take a loop. Lemme take a loop. Lemme take a loop. Lemme take a loop. Lemme take a loop. Lemme take a loop. Lemme take a loop. Lemme take a loop. Lemme take a loop." < 1243709026 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take a loop and then i hang myself on it < 1243709035 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fragrantness doesn't imply pollen < 1243709045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, nor does asthma... < 1243709059 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, but yes I happen to be allergic to some types of pollen as well. < 1243709060 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how else asthma couldn't mix with that < 1243709061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: class IRCSendingMessage < 1243709065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :case on privmsg etc < 1243709066 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I don't know enough about asthma < 1243709067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah... I think there is difference between the English and Swedish meaning < 1243709068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: in ircmessage.rb < 1243709080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: err, asthma has nothing to do with pollen < 1243709082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's hayfever < 1243709090 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know this < 1243709092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asthma is a chronic medical condition. It has been defined by the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute as a common chronic disorder of the airways that is complex and characterized by variable and recurring symptoms, airflow obstruction, bronchial hyperresponsiveness (bronchospasm), and an underlying inflammation. The interaction of these features of asthma determines the clinical manifestations and severity of asthma and the response to treatment.[1 < 1243709095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1243709095 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know this < 1243709096 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know this < 1243709099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno what smell has to do with it < 1243709100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly < 1243709103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, right. In English you are correct. In Swedish it kind of implies strong perfume or similar. < 1243709116 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1243709143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, which does cause problems with asthma. Both for me and many other I know with asthma... < 1243709144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1243709164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... 1280x1024, let's say 12" screen = 136.6 PPI < 1243709169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := 136 or 137 < 1243709177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn English making a similar word with a different meaning. < 1243709178 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243709196 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from Latin, and the English is closer to the original :-P < 1243709210 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How secure is Hashapass? < 1243709211 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fragrare - to smell (of something) < 1243709239 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243709258 0 :jix_!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-107-136.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1243709258 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1243709261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or karott... No "carrot" is not http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Karott.JPG but rather http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carrot.jpg < 1243709262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243709276 0 :nooga!n=nooga@89.108.240.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243709287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to find ff's dpi setting < 1243709290 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what /is/ carrot in Swedish < 1243709292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc French has the same meaning as Swedish for a similar word there?) < 1243709300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, 137dpi is huge < 1243709304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, the vegetable? < 1243709306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morot < 1243709306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eveything's the size of headings < 1243709311 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right < 1243709319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, try about:config ? < 1243709321 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Carotte in French can mean stealing < 1243709327 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure of the spelling < 1243709327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah, it's set to -1 there < 1243709328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so heh < 1243709335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sets to 137 < 1243709345 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And garroting isn't fun < 1243709354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it, uh, valiantly didn't work. < 1243709356 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ^ is a caret < 1243709359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Oh. That was an attempt at joking about FF config dialogs being dumbed down.... < 1243709373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: They're not dumbed down < 1243709381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only had to use about:config like 3 times in my life < 1243709384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's for really obscure stuff. < 1243709420 0 :uooga!n=marcinga@89.108.240.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243709421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sure are... Many of the settings only found in about:config nowdays used to be found in the normal config dialog in firefox 1.0 and older < 1243709424 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is making the backspace key not go back really that obscure? < 1243709442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's called putting things most people don't use out of the way < 1243709444 0 :uooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1243709462 0 :uooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i broke sending msg < 1243709464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hey... remember "phoenix" and "firebird"? < 1243709466 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1243709471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a full system designed by AnMaster would be the most configurable piece of shit ever that you wouldn't be able to do trivial things without scrolling down 57 pages of configuration options < 1243709487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and toggling things to one of 5 boolean values representing which type of machine code branch to use! < 1243709503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, a system designed by me would be better than one designed by zzo at least < 1243709512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to admit that < 1243709513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. < 1243709522 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tends to think of zzo as AnMaster squared < 1243709536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, odd. I tend to think of zzo as "lunatic" < 1243709541 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1243709552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well my program can play solitaire or football and you can set a configuration option to whether you want to play solitaire or football and also you can change the title like if you don't like Cool Football you could use Footybally" < 1243709557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: he's autistic, give the kid a break < 1243709557 0 :nooga!n=nooga@89.108.240.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243709565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's very intelligent for sure < 1243709566 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1243709566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh? Hm I wasn't aware of it. < 1243709574 0 :uooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it works < 1243709618 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway why would I design a system. There is already one I like < 1243709635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs < 1243709636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243709649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs is a perfect example of how to do everything wrong < 1243709659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes bad decisions to the level of an art form < 1243709666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, examples? < 1243709667 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/3-amazing-holgram-technologies < 1243709672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: everything! < 1243709681 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, specific examples < 1243709692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick just about anything from emacs and there's your example < 1243709699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the mode line? < 1243709704 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mini buffer? < 1243709710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like someone took the perfect editor and put it into the Make Everything Shit machine < 1243709712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: more specific. < 1243709713 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1243709723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I was more specific than you at least < 1243709726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1243709727 0 :nooga!n=nooga@89.108.240.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243709734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what it is you dislike with those then < 1243709735 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :þis is a teſ < 1243709741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, the display I want is almost as high dpi as the iphone < 1243709744 0 :uooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1243709755 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the iphone is high dpi? < 1243709758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1243709766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's a ~3.5" screen < 1243709770 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1243709774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes. Why do they make them so high dpi < 1243709785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I bet my phone has higher dpi than my computer monitor! < 1243709790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because the screen is tiny; if you made it at a regular dpi, everything would be blocky as hell < 1243709791 0 :nooga!n=nooga@89.108.240.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243709798 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anoþer teſ < 1243709801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to read web pages with quite small text on this < 1243709809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at photos too < 1243709813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a decent sized screen < 1243709815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you would just have to hold it as the same distance as a normal monitor ;P < 1243709816 0 :asiekierka!i=asiekier@078088180066.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1243709818 0 :uooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, does not work < 1243709821 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1243709823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iphone = 480x320, 3.5" < 1243709826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~16x dpi < 1243709832 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are you there? < 1243709855 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then another question... Why don't they make normal monitors as high dpi as those < 1243709865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: mega $$$ < 1243709867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they do, for industry < 1243709870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg hospitals and shit < 1243709882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why not get such a monitor? < 1243709892 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait the $$$ < 1243709892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that'll be a few thousand dollars, please < 1243709893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1243709893 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're probably expensive, I guess < 1243709897 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1243709902 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1243709907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: oh, and once you give me those thousand dollars, you can have shit contrast ratio too < 1243709914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pick three" < 1243709916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1243709917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pick two" < 1243709923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Big, high-dpi, good contrast ratio. < 1243709930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "shit contrast ratio"? < 1243709935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mandatory extra pick: Costly. < 1243709938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that as in "bad" or "stuff" < 1243709938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1243709940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Bad. < 1243709942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1243709955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English takes words that mean anything to the nth level :) < 1243709959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what about ones based on plasma < 1243709965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the downside with them < 1243709971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blurry, aren't they? < 1243709973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only usable for tvs < 1243709975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. No idea... < 1243709977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... < 1243709990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, very power hungry < 1243709990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1243709999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I would want one of those monitors that are always used as reference monitors in monitor tests! < 1243710004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :always a NEC it seems < 1243710010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Until the early 21st century, superior brightness, faster response time, greater color spectrum, and wider viewing angle of color plasma video displays, compared to LCD televisions, made them a popular display for HDTV flat panel displays. It was believed at the time that LCD technology was suited only to smaller sized televisions, while plasma technology was more competitive at larger sizes, particularly 40 inches (100 cm) and above. Improvements in V < 1243710013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LSI fabrication technology have narrowed the technological gap. The lower weight, falling prices, and often lower electrical power consumption of LCDs make them competitive with plasma television sets.]] < 1243710018 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ſ was forbidden on þe end on or þe begining ? < 1243710023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Plasma displays are bright (1000 lux or higher for the module), have a wide color gamut, and can be produced in fairly large sizes, up to 381 cm (150 inches) diagonally. ]] < 1243710024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1243710028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plasma displays use as much power as crts I think < 1243710032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: end < 1243710048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243710048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: [[Nominal power rating is typically 400 watts for a 50-inch (127 cm) screen. Post-2006 models consume 220 to 310 watts for a 50-inch (127 cm) display when set to cinema mode. Most screens are set to 'shop' mode by default, which draws at least twice the power (around 500-700 watts) of a 'home' setting of less extreme brightness.]] < 1243710059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :700 watts can power a high-end gaming pc < 1243710061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including monitor < 1243710066 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1243710068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1243710081 0 :nooga!n=nooga@89.108.240.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243710087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Plasma TVs also do not exhibit an image blur common in many LCD TVs]] < 1243710089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, then < 1243710096 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, now þisſhould work properly < 1243710097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shop mode? home mode? < 1243710098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1243710098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plasma displays are cool if you don't mind paying through the roof in both cost and power < 1243710104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that cheating < 1243710107 0 :uooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :naaaaah < 1243710113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you can set it to anything personally < 1243710117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just to woo customers in a shop window < 1243710130 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah that is the bit I called cheating < 1243710131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.P < 1243710133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P* < 1243710138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :called marketing < 1243710142 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're just names for preset brightness settings < 1243710142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1243710146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, what Deewiant said < 1243710152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1243710156 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes sense for them to be really bright in a shop, so you can see the picture :-P < 1243710175 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1243710181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, Ah yes often lots of lamps there indeed... < 1243710182 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess you can actually compare stuff like colours better that way < 1243710184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha: < 1243710187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/6ft-by-150-inches--and-thats-just-the-tv-768862.html?action=Popup < 1243710190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORST DEMONSTRATION PICTURE EVER < 1243710191 0 :nooga!n=nooga@89.108.240.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243710221 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhmm < 1243710242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why do you think so? < 1243710247 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both slugs < 1243710256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: do you seriously have to ask that? :D < 1243710257 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : both slugs < 1243710263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what would you have preferred? < 1243710271 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.boþ ſlugs < 1243710274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is certainly not the usual style they use < 1243710288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that isn't two fat people, one of which looks like he's looking at the other's pants :) < 1243710302 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1243710304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sumo wrestlers < 1243710308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1243710312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying what it actually is < 1243710317 0 :nooga!n=nooga@89.108.240.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243710328 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1243710342 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY HAND ITCHEÞ! TOO MUCH! VERY ANNOYING!...EÞ! < 1243710378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ETH? Ethernet? < 1243710379 0 :uooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooops < 1243710397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: EXCESSIVE MASTURBATION CAUSES ITCHY HANDS. YOU ARE CURSED... FOREVER! < 1243710400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA—what. < 1243710415 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, you don't spell "itches" as "ITCHETH" < 1243710423 0 :nooga!n=nooga@89.108.240.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243710424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yes I realise it was back-converted. < 1243710430 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkay < 1243710439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems either you typoed or my script is buggy < 1243710440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :itcheth is perfectly valid olde english < 1243710441 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boþ ſlugs < 1243710449 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fuck olde english < 1243710459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: fuck you :) < 1243710461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, what are you talking about < 1243710470 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :itcheþ < 1243710474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: he's written a script to do the same as pikhq/GregorR. < 1243710476 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: he is a bit sluggish < 1243710481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1243710484 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1243710484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, heh < 1243710489 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know why < 1243710513 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ⸘WHY‽ < 1243710519 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at leaſt it works < 1243710538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rewrote that back-converter script for xchat btw. Out of wanting to help the people in here out of the pain this causes. < 1243710540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: IT IS A FAKE SIN, WHICH IS JUST LIKE A SIN EXCEPT NOT A SIN < 1243710541 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puffs < 1243710552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: unsurprisingly, you're the only one it bothers. < 1243710566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no I'm not bothered by it < 1243710568 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaſter: þis is fun < 1243710569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any longer! < 1243710570 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1243710580 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaſter: Unſurpriſingly, your monitor ſucks. < 1243710591 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, so you want to pay for a better one? < 1243710596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very nice :) < 1243710617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Get ſomeþing wiþ a greater þan 4 DPI or a better font. < 1243710624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, DPI is 86 < 1243710627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ok, ok, hypocrite alert < 1243710627 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like þat, eſpecially þat i don't ſee my converted text as converted < 1243710635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, font is Dejavu Mono Sans 9 < 1243710640 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Sans Mono. < 1243710644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: everytime you criticize something I will hold you to buying a better monitor for the person you target it at. < 1243710644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember which the name is < 1243710650 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boþ ſlugs < 1243710657 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if þ and p are indiſtinguiſhable, the ſame for f and ſ, ſomeþing ſucks.) < 1243710664 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you meant about your suggestion about me paying for that monitor before? < 1243710672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:09 AnMaster: pikhq, so you want to pay for a better one? < 1243710685 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sloth bugs < 1243710695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sloth bugs? Sounds fun < 1243710699 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1243710703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very slow yeah < 1243710705 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: if you say so < 1243710711 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaſter: I have þe ſame font. It's very eaſy to tell þe letterſ apart. < 1243710720 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivial, in fact. < 1243710744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, depends on monitor DPI and how your good your sight is and several other things... < 1243710781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, the main issue is with the upper case Th one and P < 1243710791 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I can tell the different with my freaking glasses off. < 1243710794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked on a screenshot in gimp. Two pixels differ < 1243710798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n.... < 1243710798 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boþ ſlugs < 1243710810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, without glasses I can't tell what it reads on the screen AT ALL < 1243710812 0 :uooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1243710833 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You suck. < 1243710836 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I'm like 10 cm from it (rather than the usual 60 cm < 1243710841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so < 1243710848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~50-60 < 1243710854 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ſuck. < 1243710854 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1243710871 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I should start using þ in my smilies to annoy AnMaster. :p < 1243710872 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut blogs < 1243710874 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1243710876 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::Þ < 1243710887 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, that is easy to tell apart < 1243710896 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :þ isn't the same one is it? < 1243710901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it didn't convert... < 1243710911 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::thulhu < 1243710927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : :thulhu <-- forgot the c... < 1243710928 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You ſuck at þis, BTW. < 1243710942 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: BZZT < 1243710948 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::Þ < 1243710952 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! < 1243710956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what was that supposed to mean.... < 1243710963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay, dpi all works lovely. Now I just need to find a 12" 1280x1024 OLED display :-P < 1243710970 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, :ſ < 1243710974 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: did not forget, left out on purpose < 1243710991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Everett, who believed in quantum immortality[7], died" —Wikipedia < 1243710994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, why? I haven't read anything by Lovecraft... < 1243711019 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: irrelevant < 1243711045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should < 1243711048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lovecraft is awesome < 1243711067 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't either < 1243711086 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: also, Everett only died in _this_ world, obviously < 1243711089 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1243711089 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 darwin discworld* europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1243711093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i know, it just made me lol < 1243711098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I have been considering it. But I saw that book in a shop and it was extremely thick... something like 7 cm... < 1243711099 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube < 1243711099 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) < 1243711100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm partial to many worlds myself < 1243711104 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What the !@#$ is going on? < 1243711104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and small text < 1243711105 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: desconsertante, esperaba oir la voz de un hombre jajaja, pero no se ve una gran trama... pero bueno en las peliculas de accion lo mas importante no es precisamente la trama. it was remote controlled < 1243711109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: His stories are short. < 1243711112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be a collection < 1243711125 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: No, I mean, what is going on? < 1243711125 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: what about the flying club which staged the show and forgetting sarah marshall? i heard from seeing this video. < 1243711126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just read The Call of Cthulhu :-) < 1243711137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, necrocomicon? something like that I believe the title was < 1243711169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or is that the one found on the Disworld? Don't remember the spelling...) < 1243711184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Necronomicon is a fictional book invented by Lovecraft. < 1243711184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously the discworld one was a parody on it) < 1243711199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the title was reäppropriated for a collection of his stories. < 1243711202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah they probably called the collection that then... < 1243711203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1243711314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be wishful thinking that I could purchase a 12" OLED display at such a high resolution < 1243711325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as I want it raw (to put in a laptop chassis) < 1243711366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I never heard of anyone building a laptop < 1243711382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe due to them being so compact < 1243711393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i want a netbook that's extremely light and small but still usable for typing etc < 1243711401 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all you need is a good hammer < 1243711404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :current crop sucks < 1243711414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it would be quite a bit trickier than building a normal desktop computer < 1243711416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the idea is: buy laptop chassis, buy thin components, hack at them until it all fits < 1243711429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yep < 1243711432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the compactness and often non-standard card size to fit in and such < 1243711440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: heck, even most motherboard chipset heatsinks stick up too high < 1243711445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you could get all the components easily < 1243711448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also their upwards ram mounting system < 1243711459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(needs to be sideways for flatness) < 1243711464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeed < 1243711471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how the macbook air does it < 1243711479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You couldn't even fit a fan or a drive in a case that thin < 1243711481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1243711487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why the performance sucks so bad < 1243711489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1243711496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the macbook air performance is fine < 1243711502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a core 2 duo w/ 2gb ram < 1243711505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the higher model that is) < 1243711506 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. The joke failed < 1243711507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243711510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but srsly: < 1243711511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/MacBook_Air_black.jpg < 1243711518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is thinner at the edges < 1243711524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't see an opportunity for a fan, drive, heatsink, anything really < 1243711528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it does seem thinner than it actually is < 1243711540 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello chillin. < 1243711570 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=3217 < 1243711580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you didn't trust anand :) < 1243711605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION clicks printed version to avoid the woes of multi-page articles < 1243711613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The big black thing that takes up the majority of the real estate is the Air's battery" < 1243711615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck < 1243711616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gigantic < 1243711628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I always want to verify tests and such. "Trust him about this product being oh so great" is rather different from "showing the inside of a computer model" < 1243711632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl phone < 1243711643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: erm, the ssd article had benchmark results < 1243711650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including descriptions of which benchmarks were run < 1243711698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The MacBook Air hard drive is a 1.8", 5mm thick PATA drive from Samsung. It features a 8MB buffer and spins at 4200RPM." < 1243711702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now THAT's tiny/slow! < 1243711925 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1243712074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc i'm rather picky about what i'd want < 1243712082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :built-in wifi/3g, for one < 1243712091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i could perhaps use a pci/e card at a stretch < 1243712416 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1243712465 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1243712492 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-194-31-231.zone8.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1243712572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1243712594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw, is it the actual quantum immortality position that you can't die in your own world, as opposed to only not being able to die via quantumly means? < 1243712606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, but it all depends on what you benchmark. I'm not saying SSD is bad. I'm just saying I'm not going to blindly trust a single source about them < 1243712617 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or anything else where I plan to buy something < 1243712618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: he used standard industry drive performance benchmarks < 1243712628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's not really anything else more thorough you could do... < 1243712633 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the former i assume < 1243712647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it seems rather wishful < 1243712678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sure. But they don't tell everything. Reading about user experience with the units is also relevant. < 1243712694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes I never said SSD was bad. < 1243712698 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's got red beard? < 1243712698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2008/10/so-i-got-one-of-new-intel-ssds.html < 1243712700 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1243712702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good enough for you? ;) < 1243712704 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's awesome? < 1243712706 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: _every_ mean is a quantum mean < 1243712709 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am awesome < 1243712713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah < 1243712716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just I never trust one single source where I plan to buy something < 1243712719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but the whole thing seems wishful < 1243712724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/where/when/ < 1243712729 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1243712744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm just wondering why they think it apart from pure wishfulness < 1243712785 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1243712792 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :philosophy? < 1243712810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also why the heck are you asking me...) < 1243712823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're a mathematician. mathematicians know everything to do with mathematics. < 1243712826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A committed atheist, he had asked to be thrown out with the trash after his death." < 1243712840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Everett's daughter, Elizabeth, suffered from schizophrenia and committed suicide in 1996 (saying in her suicide note that she was going to a parallel universe to be with her father)" < 1243712841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1243712844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it works that way < 1243712844 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :average ruby code looks like: @a = a; @b = b; ...; @n = n; some.quite.long.dot.chain.map! {|lalala| ... }.something < 1243712885 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no they don't, also many worlds is a physical theory, at least at the level where quantum immortality would happen... < 1243712897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well yes they do! :-) < 1243712900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a true fact. < 1243712985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Torvalds blogs... didn't think he was that type < 1243713001 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he started very recently < 1243713020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: erm he started in 2008-10 < 1243713027 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to imagine RMS bloggin < 1243713028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 6 months < 1243713029 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+g < 1243713030 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very recently < 1243713033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: he does < 1243713038 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION explodes < 1243713038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stallman.org/ < 1243713039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of a sort < 1243713046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit too lo-fi to be called a blog exactly < 1243713051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's just as obnoxious as your average on < 1243713052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1243713061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha he still has the don't buy harry potter books then < 1243713064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thing < 1243713068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the top of his page < 1243713079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stallman.org/images/cartoon-economists.png < 1243713079 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1243713081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SHIP OF STATE" < 1243713084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ECONOMISTS" < 1243713091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to know your comic sucks ass: you label things. < 1243713100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a meter four, see! < 1243713124 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls triangle & robert's sheep < 1243713149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"US citizens: The site change.org allows people to propose and support political ideas. One that I supported is a new investigation of how the 9/11 attacks were carried out, and who was responsible." < 1243713150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—RMS < 1243713154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha he's a truther? < 1243713157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1243713172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As individual suspects, Bush and Cheney must not be punished without being convicted in a fair trial. As the level of politics, however, given that they blocked and corrupted the investigation into their possible guilt, we must consider them guilty until a real investigation is allowed." < 1243713182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As we all know, people are guilty until proven innocent, if we don't like them. < 1243713249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not everyone. but you are. < 1243713249 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: truer words have not been spoken! < 1243713260 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i agree, ehird, you're guilty. < 1243713269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, free speech only applies to people who are right. < 1243713279 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUILTY/SILENCE < 1243713284 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofcourse! if you're wrong, you have to pay to speak.. < 1243713290 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, lefties are commies and should have no free speech < 1243713326 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck they don't really want it anyway < 1243713344 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as soon as they get power, they abolish it < 1243713426 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with the chinks and the niggers in africa < 1243713433 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should argue that SILENCE violates the right of participation in the fora < 1243713441 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nigger nigger nigger nigger < 1243713463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nigger is a word meaning nigger. < 1243713468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are we talking about niggers again? < 1243713470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, oerjan. < 1243713473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That bloody racist. < 1243713506 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not racism if it's a fact. look at how the chinks are _helping_ the niggers in africa get rid of free speech. < 1243713544 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a little genocide on the side < 1243713566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genoside on the cide < 1243713590 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny thing < 1243713596 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are black ppl everywhere < 1243713600 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the muslims < 1243713607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that funny < 1243713607 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should always be on the side of the genes. how can that be racism? < 1243713638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jean < 1243713639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeans < 1243713641 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: well that's because they're breading like pigs < 1243713645 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*breeding < 1243713646 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they start to force western europe to obey them in some way < 1243713648 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about that < 1243713677 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that should be rabbits, at least for the muslims, they don't care for pigs < 1243713699 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Poland: muslims come and say "obey our stupid rights to kill our wives" and poles don't give a fuck, beat them hardly and let them go to their countries < 1243713709 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chinks do though, that's why we have so much flu < 1243713711 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We didn't invite you. eot." < 1243713731 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1243713734 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ppl are sooo untolerant here < 1243713885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUTTS!!! LOL < 1243713937 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1243713969 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to order something in an internet store and recieve that without having them know who you are? < 1243713981 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anonymous mailbox? ;f < 1243714101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1243714103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mailinator.com < 1243714122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: just use their generated address < 1243714125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and click on it after using it < 1243714135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can just trash it < 1243714136 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Erm, not emailbox < 1243714143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh < 1243714143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1243714145 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1243714148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irl < 1243714149 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real mail < 1243714151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: erm a po box or sth? < 1243714155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you can't do that by design < 1243714167 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1243714190 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1243714200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: can't you just use a fake name < 1243714202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/ a real address < 1243714208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga mcnoogason < 1243714226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but po box seems to be the thang < 1243714226 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny thing that you could send mail without post stamps: enter reciever as sender, you as a reciever, put thing in mailbox < 1243714238 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the letter will be sent to the right person < 1243714272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1243714281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: only in poland i assume < 1243714285 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1243714290 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they've noticed it < 1243714299 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it does not work anymore < 1243714314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1243714317 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because mail without post stamps was supposed to be sent back to the sender < 1243714325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1243714787 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i write my name and surname < 1243714832 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should use: Marcin Gasperowicz or Martin Gasperowicz or Martin Gasperovitch < 1243714835 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?:D < 1243714850 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-82-69.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1243714892 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1243715407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how does eomdermderomedomromeodmeormeormormodmeoreodmeofmeormdoemroemdomeroemdoer work? < 1243715437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: read the wiki < 1243715452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1243715515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: didn't help. < 1243715668 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, there's no eomdermderomedomromeodmeormeormormodmeoreodmeofmeormdoemroemdomeroemdoer page on the wiki. < 1243715724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How odd! < 1243715748 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Why, you've ſtopped þe ſcript. < 1243715764 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive was being bitchy :P < 1243715772 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ere, 'ts back. < 1243715778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stab him hard. < 1243715780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1243715780 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasnt being bitchy < 1243715784 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was saying you were doing it wrong < 1243715791 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND you were doing it by a script < 1243715793 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is lame < 1243715799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mother is lame < 1243715803 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: See. < 1243715804 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VERY true < 1243715809 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1243715838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: Þou ſeëſt þat we care not. < 1243715838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1243715873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: seëst? < 1243715883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two Es are pronounced the same < 1243715885 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix it to at least do long-s where it should be: non-word finally not after a long-s < 1243715893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¨ represents two vowels in a row that are pronounced differently < 1243715902 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pſygnisfive: Uhhhhh, þat's what it doþ do. < 1243715906 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, that was his intention < 1243715916 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't it be "seeëst" < 1243715918 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregorr-l: apparently not! < 1243715924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: yep < 1243715932 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I was wondering if þou wouldſt catch þat. :p < 1243715935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seëst is pronounced seh-ehst < 1243715942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is dumbtarded :) < 1243715945 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it be seeëst? < 1243715952 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see-est < 1243715958 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: ſee-est. < 1243715959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what Deewiant sed < 1243715960 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1243715962 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pſygnisfive: Every inſtance of it in þat laſt ſentence, and þis one, is non-word-final and not after a long-s ... < 1243715965 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: ſee-eſt. < 1243715969 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sorry i misread what he meant to say < 1243715973 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't that be seést? < 1243715977 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am confused! < 1243715985 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Not in Engliſh. < 1243715998 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, i'm reading up < 1243716002 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: : yes, and yet a non-word-final not-after-long-s "s" was NOT converted! < 1243716005 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my NAME! < 1243716007 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've never seen ë in english < 1243716009 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anywhere < 1243716016 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: "pſygnisfive" < 1243716022 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that s doing there before f < 1243716023 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HUH? < 1243716028 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your script is broken < 1243716034 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: s before f is always ſhort. < 1243716053 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies < 1243716063 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, 'tis true. < 1243716075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive's name is ghoti < 1243716078 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was told by pikhq to do it at way, and I'm waaaay to lazy to look it up. < 1243716094 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked it up. < 1243716100 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun|away < 1243716115 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þou wouldſt do well to do þe ſame. < 1243716128 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha ha! all your work is wasted! i just replaced them all back to something that looks right < 1243716129 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1243716142 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Þou ſeem to have done þat much faſter þan AnMaſter. < 1243716175 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Uſing AnMaſter's ſcript? It's quite broken. Þought þou ſhould know. < 1243716177 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :correction: seemest! (seem'st?) < 1243716184 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1243716194 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i just added an input filter in my own script < 1243716199 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to turn all the unicodes back to their proper letters < 1243716219 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. So, not AnMaſter's broken ſcript. < 1243716228 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :placement doesn't matter in that case, obviously ;) < 1243716234 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can ignore the rules < 1243716283 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ſould ſtab þou hard. < 1243716324 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* #eſoteric :Illegal channel name < 1243716326 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1243716330 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ſould/ſhould/ < 1243716346 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-124.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1243716351 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: /topic #esoteric #eſoteric: ... < 1243716358 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I tried to /join < 1243716359 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243716386 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alſo, əſötərıc FTW? < 1243716394 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FTL < 1243716401 0 :Corun|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun < 1243716453 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: "reënter" < 1243716509 0 :nooga!n=nooga@89.108.240.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1243716511 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never seen it < 1243716519 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the dots < 1243716531 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not surprising, it's archaic < 1243716546 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually ſtill in (rare) uſe, moſt people juſt ignore it. < 1243716548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most beautiful-est archaism ever < 1243716566 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: IIRC, a few publications ſtill use it. < 1243716570 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/use/uſe/ < 1243716573 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen accents not dots < 1243716576 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, but it's still archaic. < 1243716577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floptical < 1243716579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FLOPTICAL! < 1243716581 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's eomdermderomedomromeodmeormeormormodmeoreodmeofmeormdoemroemdomeroemdoer < 1243716583 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not for the double vowel thing < 1243716612 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naïve is ſtill conſidered correct. < 1243716621 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The New Yorker, for example, ſtill uſes it. < 1243716621 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ſtill ſpell it þat way. < 1243716624 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: eomermdrome? < 1243716625 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err < 1243716628 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eodermdrome* < 1243716640 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þe diacritical mark in Engliſh means "pronounce þis vowel ſeparately, not as a diphtong" < 1243716657 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1243716682 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Engliſh needs it, IMO. < 1243716694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new yorker is so pretentious :) < 1243716714 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Correct Engliſh is pretentious now? < 1243716724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new yorker is pretentious in general < 1243716725 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, fuck. < 1243716743 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ī < 1243716744 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1243716771 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Þat's moſt commonly uſed in the Romanization of Japaneſe. < 1243716787 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i ſee < 1243716790 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, never mind. < 1243716805 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macrons are uſed to elongate everything *but* i. < 1243716819 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i is doubled, inſtead. < 1243716828 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1243716865 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Benkyō shimasu" is an obvious example... < 1243716868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instyd of ryplacing all vywyls with q, how abyt jyst ryplacing a, e, u, ae and ou with y? < 1243716901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actuylly, ryplace i wyth y too. < 1243716908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vyry Wylsh. < 1243716909 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I killeſt þou. < 1243716932 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, y in Welſh is a single vowel. ;) < 1243716941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pykhq: Shyt yp (ooh, thyt doysn't work too wyll), hythyn. < 1243716964 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cymrag. < 1243716969 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but w in Welſh is a vowel. < 1243716970 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silence, knave! < 1243716972 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1243716974 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ſcrew Welſh. < 1243716979 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :knyvy? < 1243716984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o ynd y: thy two myn vowyls of thy world. < 1243716987 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Welſh has fun phonemes. ;) < 1243716988 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get spam in Welsh < 1243717005 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a friend of mine skeaks fluent welsh o.o < 1243717051 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q qqqq, qqq'q qqqq qqqqqqq QQQQQQQQQQ qqqq Q! < 1243717055 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how one ſkeaks. < 1243717063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ryplacying yll syqyncys of vowyls ypyrt from o wyth y ys a fyn thyng to do. < 1243717073 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usch < 1243717076 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1243717078 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch < 1243717080 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll replace your mom with a y < 1243717083 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOH! < 1243717117 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It doeþn't make Engliſh incomprehenſible, but only becauſe Engliſh is comprehenſible wiþout vowels. < 1243717134 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fr 'xmpl, cnſdr þs ſntnc. < 1243717134 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1243717141 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wh nds vwls nw. < 1243717152 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nn < 1243717152 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to buy a vowel < 1243717171 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'nglſh 's vry wll ſrvd by 'n 'bjd. < 1243717172 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, nice one there < 1243717174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ryplycying syqyncys of vowyls ypyrt from o ynd u wyth y ys a fun thyng to do. (Us yre sycryd.) < 1243717175 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1243717183 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ng, nc n thr < 1243717187 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thnk < 1243717197 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :' knw, bcs my cſtm wrtng ſyſtm 's 'n. < 1243717225 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has started a new Hangman game! < 1243717228 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) ??????? (Guessed: Left: 10) < 1243717238 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do one play? < 1243717245 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. !guess letter(s) < 1243717251 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess e < 1243717252 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each letter counts as a guess < 1243717254 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) ??????? (Guessed: e Left: 9) < 1243717256 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess þ < 1243717257 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) ??????? (Guessed: eþ Left: 7) < 1243717260 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: lol < 1243717261 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laf < 1243717262 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1243717267 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess a < 1243717268 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) ??????? (Guessed: eþa Left: 6) < 1243717271 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess s < 1243717271 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't count utf-8 properly < 1243717272 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) ??????? (Guessed: eþas Left: 5) < 1243717273 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no wovels < 1243717277 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess ð < 1243717278 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured you guys were talkin about how you didn't like vowels < 1243717279 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1243717280 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already guessed: à < 1243717280 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) ??????? (Guessed: eþas° Left: 4) < 1243717297 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess r < 1243717299 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) ??????? (Guessed: eþas°r Left: 3) < 1243717301 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess ŧ < 1243717301 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1243717302 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess q < 1243717302 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) ??????? (Guessed: eþas°rŧ Left: 1) < 1243717304 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) Game over! (Answer: godhood) < 1243717305 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not really true, this is just my favorite hangman word to use < 1243717324 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Dammit, I was trying for -1 guesses left < 1243717324 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice one < 1243717338 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1243717342 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably would have worked too < 1243717344 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It'd be even nicer to have -2. < 1243717347 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1243717359 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've also got... < 1243717364 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang ?y?y?y abc < 1243717365 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matches. < 1243717366 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Or -3. Of course, if it accepts -1 you can probably do any -n. < 1243717371 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i spelled it wrong < 1243717371 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Þough for þat, you'd need ſomeþing out of þe BMP, m'þinks. < 1243717393 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes, 0xffff is 3 bytes. < 1243717395 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, no it wouldn't have worked < 1243717401 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's seeing your utf-8 characters as separate letters < 1243717411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1243717411 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it already has support for not going negative < 1243717412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1243717413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess abcdhf < 1243717414 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1243717425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess aeiouy < 1243717440 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi has started a new Hangman game! (Hint: lols) < 1243717442 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) ????????? (Guessed: Left: 10) < 1243717446 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess aeiouy < 1243717448 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) ?o?e??i?? (Guessed: auy Left: 7) < 1243717449 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guess abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz < 1243717449 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hangman) Game over! (Answer: something) < 1243717451 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1243717452 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see :P < 1243717460 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one fun thing i used to do when i ran this script is < 1243717467 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i have a guess for the word, < 1243717475 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd try to come up with a !guess that would say something and also win < 1243717487 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(say the remaining letters in the correct order without running out of guesses, but in sentence form) < 1243717503 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang ?o?e??i?? y < 1243717503 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matches. < 1243717508 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, something's wrong < 1243717515 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it can't find the wordlist < 1243717524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang a butt < 1243717526 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :butt < 1243717532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes myndzi < 1243717532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :butt < 1243717540 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.....or i could have forgotten my own syntax < 1243717541 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1243717545 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang f ?y?y?y < 1243717546 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :syzygy < 1243717552 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the case :( < 1243717556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang / /g/g/ < 1243717558 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matches. < 1243717562 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang aeiouy ?o?e??i?? < 1243717563 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matches. < 1243717572 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang auy ?o?e??i?? < 1243717573 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matches. < 1243717575 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1243717576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz ?f?t?r??f < 1243717580 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matches. < 1243717585 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the letters are exclusions < 1243717594 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1243717600 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang z ?o?e??i?? < 1243717600 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang z ??????? < 1243717601 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matches. < 1243717602 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aarrghh abalone abandon abasers abashed abashes abasias abasing abaters abating abators abattis abaxial abaxile abbotcy abdomen abduced abduces abducts abelian abelias abettal abetted abetter abettor abeyant abfarad abhenry abiders abiding abigail ability abioses abiosis abiotic abjured abjurer abjures ablated ablates ablauts ablings abluent abluted aboding abolish abollae abomasa abomasi aborted aborter < 1243717603 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abought aboulia aboulic abounds abraded abrader abrades abreact abreast abridge abroach abrosia abscess abscise abscond abseils absence absents absinth absolve absorbs abstain absurds abubble abulias abusers abusing abusive abuttal abutted abutter abvolts abwatts abysmal abyssal abysses acacias academe academy acajous acaleph acanthi acapnia acarids acarine acaroid acaudal acceded acceder accedes accents < 1243717604 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :accepts accidia accidie acclaim accords accosts account accrete accrual accrued accrues accurst accusal accused accuser accuses acedias acequia acerate acerber acerbic acerola acerose acerous acetals acetate acetify acetins acetone acetose acetous acetyls achenes achiest achieve achiote acholia acicula acidify acidity aciform < 1243717604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang z ?f?t?r??f < 1243717606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1243717608 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matches. < 1243717611 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, all right < 1243717612 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew someone'd do that eventually :\ < 1243717613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang ???? < 1243717618 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'something' must not be in the ospd3 < 1243717621 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the ideal wordlist i guess < 1243717621 0 :whtspc!n=chatzill@c115216.upc-c.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1243717628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi whtspc < 1243717636 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1243717637 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't < 1243717643 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I couldn't know what'd happen, could I? < 1243717656 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:06:42] aarrghh < 1243717656 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1243717663 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang eou wh?t?sp?c? < 1243717668 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matches. < 1243717672 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1243717675 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-e < 1243717676 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang ou wh?t?sp?c? < 1243717676 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not a dictionary word < 1243717680 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matches. < 1243717685 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone wants to link me to a proper wordlist i'll put that in :P < 1243717730 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang aou sp?ll?ng < 1243717734 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelling spilling < 1243717740 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wanna screw around there's also /msg myndzi !hangman #channel "word or phrase" hint text < 1243717781 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"But ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" < 1243717818 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Maybe http://rs249.rapidshare.com/files/81559933/1.5_Million_Word_List.rar is better < 1243717821 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you always get 10 guesses? < 1243717843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hangman #esoteric "word or phrase" hint text < 1243717867 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i have a bigger one but it's a little bit too big :) < 1243717874 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes < 1243717878 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can it be too big :-P < 1243717881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: that's what < 1243717881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SH < 1243717882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E < 1243717884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAID < 1243717886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: < 1243717888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dkf < 1243717892 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: it takes a long time to search < 1243717906 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clever data structures? < 1243717919 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a silly mirc script < 1243717922 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just uses /filter with a regex < 1243717930 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1243717941 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem isn't the size, it's what it's implemented in :P < 1243717943 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which itself is reasonably fast, just not on 200mb files < 1243717949 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in this case < 1243717953 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, well < 1243717957 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of the filtering is done in mirc script :) so it's pretty fast < 1243717969 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember that much from when I scripted in mIRC < 1243717974 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1243717977 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :200mb was the COMPRESSED version < 1243717978 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I remember that vars are stored in external files < 1243717987 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that musta been a long time ago < 1243717995 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they still are, but local variables are in memory < 1243718001 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sure hope so < 1243718014 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm pretty sure the variable file is cached in memory too < 1243718024 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm reasonably certain it's not held in a hash table or something useful like that < 1243718038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: But I remember that vars are stored in external files < 1243718040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttttttt < 1243718065 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: A 200-megabytes-compressed wordlist? Nice. < 1243718082 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the biggest I have/had lying around is 70 uncompressed < 1243718163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck... < 1243718175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# file -s /dev/sr0 < 1243718175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/sr0: ERROR: cannot read `/dev/sr0' (Input/output error) < 1243718181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a CD in it < 1243718187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same happens for all cds < 1243718187 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad CD or drive < 1243718245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, cd works in other computer. Guess I will have to shut down and check that every cable is properly attached... < 1243718258 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since I had to move stuff around in the computer recently) < 1243718318 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: that's pretty much why it is slow :) < 1243718320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very well. It isn't urgent, while other stuff is. And I will have to shut down soon anyway, since one of the fans in the computer is breaking down... < 1243718333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the replacement one should arrive at Monday < 1243718365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however < 1243718367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ejecting works < 1243718369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very strange < 1243718374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1243718378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the eject command < 1243718394 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]" < 1243718429 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: There are plenty of parts that could be broken in such a way that discs can't be read but the mechanism still works. < 1243718443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243718462 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On the software side too, I guess.) < 1243718469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I do have some other old optical units... could use one of them < 1243718481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and yes. rebooting is worth a try. later < 1243718493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders about streaming cd across network < 1243718501 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the other computer is headless < 1243718518 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your network is fast enough, the drive will be the bottleneck :-P < 1243718540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat /dev/sr0 | nc and nc | aplay ? < 1243718543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no < 1243718552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that seems like a bad solution < 1243718610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, [computer with working cd player] - 100 mbps ethernet - [gbit ethernet switch] - gbit ethernet - [computer with speakers] < 1243718613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be fast enough < 1243718618 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is a good WAY to do it < 1243718621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was what I meant < 1243718633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that a bad solution < 1243718636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what nc is designed for < 1243718645 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It transmits the whole disc needlessly. < 1243718646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well.. aplay directly won't work. < 1243718652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1243718652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: what? < 1243718653 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat /dev/foo is quite wasteful. < 1243718657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1243718659 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to listen to the 5th track < 1243718662 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he just wants to play a track < 1243718663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all the other ones < 1243718666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, indeed < 1243718670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehm ripping a cd takes like 3 minutes < 1243718674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorter than you've been taling < 1243718675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking < 1243718676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole thing < 1243718678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why does it matter < 1243718685 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 3 minutes? the computer is an old pentium3 < 1243718690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is slow for everything < 1243718694 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the drive's speed? < 1243718696 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the drive is a 4x < 1243718697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1243718701 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, 4x < 1243718702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's IO-bound you doofus < 1243718711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything to do with CDs is IO-bound < 1243718713 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's around 0.6 MB/s < 1243718720 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, iirc. might be 2x... *wonders how to check* < 1243718729 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1x is around 150 KiB/s < 1243718758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no speed written on the drive itself < 1243718762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as I can see < 1243718765 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you have a 650 MB disc that's 18 minutes < 1243718787 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ripping the one WAV that you want would take a lot less than that < 1243718792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... 650 MB disc that's 18 minutes? < 1243718799 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1243718804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'scuse me, what sort of huge 18 minutes is this? < 1243718814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1x would be 74 minutes iirc? < 1243718818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1243718821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming full disc < 1243718828 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 650 MB / 0.6 MB/s = 18 minutes < 1243718867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1243718871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You meant, to rip. < 1243718876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant 18 minutes of audial content. < 1243718932 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway. It is 4x. Says cdparanoia < 1243718942 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it's the 0.6 MB/s I was using above. < 1243719065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so those 3 minutes were a bit low estimate < 1243719066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1243719076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was assuming a modern ~40x drive < 1243719084 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you've been talking 15 minutes now ;-) < 1243719089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the broken drive is 40x < 1243719102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it as been ripping for ~7 minutes < 1243719122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wait, it is 48x even... < 1243719206 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this is STRANGE < 1243719223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now reading on the "broken" drive works in cdparanoia. Not with file though < 1243719237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1243719255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is finding the drive at /dev/sg1 instead of the usual /dev/sr0 < 1243719255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cdparanoia bypasses the device layr < 1243719256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :layer < 1243719256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1243719263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL < 1243719269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1243719288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :file -s /dev/sg0 can't read it still < 1243719412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err nor sg1 < 1243719420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't HAVE two cd drives < 1243719431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lshw claims it is at sr0 < 1243719510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eject /dev/sg1 doesn't do anything, eject /dev/sr0 ejects the expected drive < 1243719532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... < 1243719615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1243719629 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it behaves more sanely for data cds < 1243719634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why are music cds broken < 1243719663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, nothing can play them now < 1243719865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. nfs is acting strange < 1243719893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls shows a file is there. tab complete claimed it wasn't. Until I waited for half a minute < 1243719900 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange < 1243719994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, btw the music cd seems to have been a full 700 MB? I didn't know that was valid for music cds < 1243720012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand I can't see a good reason for it to not be valid. < 1243720103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ file track00.cdda.wav < 1243720103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :track00.cdda.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 44100 Hz < 1243720105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's odd < 1243720110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't playable < 1243720153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :od shows it is mostly zero bytes < 1243720159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try track 01. < 1243720161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero bytes with a wav header < 1243720161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably a data track < 1243720172 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, for a cd from 1987? < 1243720180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows :P < 1243720242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, http://pastebin.ca/1441501 < 1243720257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try track 01. < 1243720266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes that is correct < 1243720267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1243720274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering what on earth this one was! < 1243720278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dud disk header? < 1243720297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dud? typo for dude? < 1243720309 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dud as in dud. < 1243720311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1243720323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe cdparanoia -B generates that < 1243720328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't noticed it before though < 1243720359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1243720585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... /dev/sg* seems to be character device access to drives (not sure which types of drives yet... since I have sg0 to sg3 and just two harddrives (one sata and one pata) and one cd/dvd drive...) < 1243720589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in that computer) < 1243720604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sr0 is the block device < 1243720692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it play so much lower than usual.... < 1243720703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1243720719 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION observes that a music CD can have up to 800 MB. < 1243720741 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A 700 MB CD-ROM has 100MB of data correction overhead. < 1243721458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. http://pastebin.ca/1441510 < 1243721461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1243721463 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1243721555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens every time I try to read an *audio* cd < 1243721888 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Except at it's practically guaranteed to be flawed :P < 1243721921 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun|away < 1243722071 0 :Corun|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun < 1243722105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION test rips with cdparanoia < 1243722123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works... < 1243722145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would this mean the issue is purely a software problem? < 1243722146 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1243722211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since 1) only audio cd, 2) only accessing it using the usual sr interface that most software players use. 3) cdparanoia reads it using the sg interface. Not sure if it usually does that... < 1243722426 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: No, it's not. A CDDA also contains error correction. < 1243722428 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just less of it. < 1243722502 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to my recollection, but þat's hardly my area of expertiſe :P < 1243722658 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CDDA includes cross-interleaved Reed-Solomon coding. < 1243722730 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a slightly complex parity scheme. < 1243723802 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1243725429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Or were you referring to Intel macs, rather than Apple macs?" < 1243725436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wwwwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttt < 1243726015 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, what about IBM macs? < 1243726055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: vut? < 1243726070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was drawing an analogy with Intel macs < 1243726147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1243726406 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1243726936 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBM Macs? Well, IBM could in *theory* have gone into the Mac clone business when Apple allowed it. < 1243726950 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Juſt like Intel haþ now? ;) < 1243726963 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Nah. < 1243726972 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be funny if Intel made some Macs, though. < 1243727225 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1243727275 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1243727286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finding somewhere that sells OLED displays is hard. < 1243727296 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The OS X EULA forbids installing OS X on "non Apple-labeled computers". < 1243727321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No, that loophole won't work. < 1243727325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lawyers. :) < 1243727331 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Wouldn't sticking an Apple label on a computer work? :p < 1243727334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have the cash to paper over that loophole, you don't. < 1243727340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have discussed that quite a bit < 1243727348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: but, nothing's stopping you ripping out the EULA < 1243727350 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I can't remember what the conclusions were < 1243727357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you never run it < 1243727363 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was argued that the EULA meant "was labeled by Apple" < 1243727366 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more valid question is: does that count as an antitrust violation? < 1243727367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's probably illegal too < 1243727370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no < 1243727377 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't matter what sort of label's on there, just so long as Apple put it there < 1243727381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apple are perfectly allowed to require their users only to sue it on their hardware < 1243727407 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: congrats on knocking defend9 off the top spot < 1243727421 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you improve your programs, or is the hill just more hostile to defend9alikes now? < 1243727423 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Unless it's determined that, in doing so, they are violating antitrust laws. < 1243727431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Burden of proof < 1243727434 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: have you seen defend9 by the way? it's insane < 1243727444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: dunno < 1243727444 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any such bundling, though probably legal, is a somewhat tricky area. < 1243727525 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not going to definitively say anything, of course, since, well, I don't have the time or give-a-damn to read hundreds of pages of legalese. < 1243727541 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1243727544 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume the US antitrust laws consume one or more volumes) < 1243727562 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One volume per antitruſt lawyer. < 1243727571 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Sounds about right. < 1243727686 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION observes that if companies like Psystar were smart, they wouldn't have OS X preinstalled. They would instead have an EFI computer and a Darwin driver disk. Maybe also sell OS X discs. < 1243727761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can't legally sell OS X discs < 1243727765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psystar is simply an illegal business. < 1243727788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like their business at all < 1243727804 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed that you would read "Maybe" as "if they could get to be Apple authorised resellers somehow". < 1243727814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likelyhood of that: vanishingly small. < 1243727818 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeha. < 1243727819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*likelihood < 1243727833 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could legally sell a computer with EFI and some Darwin drivers, though. < 1243727846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hackintoshes are stupid, just use Linux :P < 1243727856 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, EFI is an open standard and Darwin is a free operating system. < 1243727891 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, they could even have a GNU/Darwin install on there and say "Supports the Darwin operating system, that is the base of Mac OS X (wink wink nudge nudge)." < 1243727915 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But just straight up selling OS X on the computer preinstalled? Dumber than a sack of rocks. < 1243727934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.arstechnica.com/macpro0409/3neh_internalshr.jpg ← if there's one thing a mac pro has over a regular pc it's a well-designed interior... < 1243727954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That bottom compartment slots out.) < 1243727973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's actually a separate daughterboard that the RAM is on.) < 1243727979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the CPUs. Go figure.) < 1243727989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, those CPUs look fanless. < 1243727998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be cooled by case fans. Or the fans are in the heatsink.